Wren discusses Braves’ future, offseason to-do list

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JoeBrave

October 8th, 2012
11:05 pm

DS1 you’re very right, I don’t hate them personally, I have met Pastornicky and he is a very nice young man, I do however loathe the fact he is in a Braves Uniform, and the way he was overhyped and spoon..er force fed by the media to us, when I physically watched him, and knew full well he was not ready then, and will never be ready, hence the final resolution from the vaunted FO, he will be a sub….

old man

October 8th, 2012
11:05 pm

DS1, I know you weren’t going after me. You just said some wise things.

Bobo

October 8th, 2012
11:07 pm

Mac has eye, knee and shoulder problems plus he can’t throw anyone out and slow as a snail. Just what we need for $13 million..hell yea do it again Wren.

Braveone

October 8th, 2012
11:08 pm

From the previous blog which had 4,232 comments, TheOnlyBravesFan led the way with 210 posts. There were 430 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:

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2 phil 158
3 Trey 106
4 DS1 104
5 Jeff R 80
6 brian 73
7 Lew 69
8 count_schemula 69
9 usnavyvolfaninva 60
10 Ken Stallings 52
11 Nowhere man 51
12 George_George 49
13 Lance 47
14 P-Town Brave © 46
15 Efrim 45
16 6 Finger 2 tooth Braves Fan 42
17 Bat Masterson 41
18 MIBravesFan 41
19 Brava 39
20 MFin04 39
21 SNEAKY PETE 39
22 Venice Jim 39
23 N8 38
24 playmeortrademe 38
25 sid’s bream 38

Rowsdower

October 8th, 2012
11:08 pm

Disregard the fools that don’t know who Wren traded and who Schuerholz traded.

Brava

October 8th, 2012
11:08 pm

I see no reason to think Uggla won’t turn it around. He was making improvement at the end of the season and talked about the adjustments he was making from working with Walker and Fletcher. The more he works with those guys, the more they’re going to be able to help him tweak whatever needs tweaking. Maybe I’m grasping here, but I seriously think he’ll have a better season next year.

JoeBrave

October 8th, 2012
11:08 pm

Embracing a deal for Uggla is like kissing your ugly cousin…. Everyone and I mean everyone blistered me good when I said it was a MAJOR mistake, I howled, lamented and cursed , proved it with number after number, was called a fool, but the fact remains Dan Uggla was a collosal mistake.

DS1

October 8th, 2012
11:10 pm

Brava

Prado certainly is a gem! I’d love to have 10-15 guys like him on my team.

If you go down the list, we really do have quite a few really good players. A really good core. Hopefully our man Frank can work some magic on the trade front.

Ya know, if Mac or Uggla was my son, they’d probably pay off my mortgage and I could quit work and become their business manager. Work for peanuts and hotdogs at the park every game night!

:wink:

Braveone

October 8th, 2012
11:10 pm

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2 TheOnlyBravesFan 8,917 2.9 7.5
3 Venice Jim 8,895 2.9 10.4
4 cabravesfan 8,130 2.7 13.1
5 Efrim 7,671 2.5 15.6
6 phil 7,333 2.4 18.0
7 Lew 5,238 1.7 19.7
8 Bat Masterson 4,912 1.6 21.3
9 ncscoots 4,765 1.6 22.8
10 VaBravesFan 4,157 1.4 24.2
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12 Ward 3,895 1.3 26.8
13 brian 3,819 1.2 28.1
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17 Murph 3,348 1.1 32.6
18 Brava 3,336 1.1 33.7
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21 Disgusted 3,212 1.0 36.9
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26 Jeff R 2,698 0.9 41.5
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36 Shaun 2,131 0.7 49.1
37 JC Brave 2,127 0.7 49.8
38 Trey 2,111 0.7 50.5
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41 ncbravesfan90 1,975 0.6 52.5
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66 CB 1,153 0.4 65.2
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68 Bay Area Steve 1,092 0.4 65.9
69 Hugo Z Hackenbush 1,086 0.4 66.3
70 CaptMudd 1,073 0.4 66.6
71 Tom O’Hawke 1,064 0.3 67.0
72 LAG 1,060 0.3 67.3
73 MiaBchBravesFan 1,029 0.3 67.7
74 Kat 1,000 0.3 68.0
75 RC 983 0.3 68.3
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78 Ray 955 0.3 69.3
79 Pace 930 0.3 69.6
80 Soph 859 0.3 69.8
81 MikeInFl 855 0.3 70.1
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87 ncgary 801 0.3 71.7
88 Couch Tater 795 0.3 72.0
89 TBbravesfan 789 0.3 72.2
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91 Ralph 776 0.3 72.8
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93 George_George 736 0.2 73.2
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95 JNick 716 0.2 73.7
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23JAN2012 nolie 308 6.9
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11FEB2012 nolie 223 9.5
16FEB2012 cabravesfan 159 8.7
21FEB2012 nolie 101 9.3
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25FEB2012 nolie 174 16.1
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05MAR2012 Venice Jim 302 21.4
07MAR2012 Venice Jim 191 16.8
08MAR2012 Venice Jim 176 20.1
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14MAR2012 Venice Jim 159 10.6
16MAR2012 Tomahawkin 114 7.8
18MAR2012 Venice Jim 176 9.5
21MAR2012 Venice Jim 161 23.5
22MAR2012 Venice Jim 159 15.4
23MAR2012 Venice Jim 306 13.4
27MAR2012 Venice Jim 310 15.9
29MAR2012 Venice Jim 448 14.5
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07APR2012 Tomahawkin 208 6.6
09APR2012 Tomahawkin 96 4.1
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13APR2012 JasonInFL 93 5.0
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16APR2012 nolie 80 6.4
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18APR2012 cabravesfan 74 4.5
19APR2012 cabravesfan 104 6.8
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24APR2012 cabravesfan 104 5.8
27APR2012 nolie 162 7.9
29APR2012 JasonInFL 64 6.6
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03MAY2012 nolie 38 5.0
04MAY2012 JasonInFL 115 8.1
05MAY2012 nolie 227 9.2
07MAY2012 nolie 129 7.8
08MAY2012 nolie 121 10.3
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11MAY2012 nolie 142 6.5
13MAY2012 nolie 143 9.6
14MAY2012 phil 68 5.5
15MAY2012 nolie 81 7.2
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17MAY2012 nolie 116 7.2
18MAY2012 nolie 147 11.2
19MAY2012 nolie 123 7.0
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22MAY2012 J-Man 83 6.9
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25MAY2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 100 5.9
26MAY2012 nolie 119 8.9
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28MAY2012 nolie 62 4.2
29MAY2012 phil 95 6.2
30MAY2012 nolie 201 8.3
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05JUN2012 Efrim 75 5.9
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07JUN2012 nolie 120 6.4
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11JUN2012 nolie 165 8.5
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13JUN2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 174 6.9
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22JUN2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 81 5.9
23JUN2012 nolie 115 8.2
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26JUN2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 125 8.8
27JUN2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 111 7.8
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22JUL2012 Efrim 209 5.3
24JUL2012 Efrim 278 5.6
27JUL2012 nolie 125 8.0
28JUL2012 nolie 75 6.2
29JUL2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 73 4.6
30JUL2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 279 10.4
31JUL2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 106 6.9
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02AUG2012 Efrim 78 7.2
03AUG2012 nolie 79 9.4
04AUG2012 nolie 72 7.6
05AUG2012 nolie 29 4.3
06AUG2012 Efrim 64 4.8
07AUG2012 Efrim 94 8.3
08AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 228 10.4
10AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 102 11.0
11AUG2012 Mark 97 8.4
12AUG2012 Venice Jim 53 6.0
13AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 93 7.8
14AUG2012 phil 70 6.2
15AUG2012 Efrim 76 5.8
16AUG2012 nolie 106 8.0
17AUG2012 nolie 75 5.2
18AUG2012 Trey 67 7.1
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20AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 124 5.2
21AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 110 6.1
22AUG2012 Brava 92 6.0
23AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 125 6.2
24AUG2012 Brava 130 4.5
26AUG2012 The A Bomb 75 5.1
27AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 105 7.8
28AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 84 6.9
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31AUG2012 nolie 157 9.5
01SEP2012 nolie 62 6.2
02SEP2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 107 7.3
03SEP2012 nolie 83 6.0
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05SEP2012 nolie 202 7.4
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11SEP2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 71 6.7
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17SEP2012 usnavyvolfaninva 57 5.2
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22SEP2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 122 6.2
25SEP2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 101 8.1
26SEP2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 75 7.3
27SEP2012 Bay Area Steve 54 7.0
28SEP2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 46 5.0
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05OCT2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 210 5.0

JoeBrave

October 8th, 2012
11:10 pm

JS final trade was for Mark Texeira, Wren’s first trade was dealing Texeira, although he didn’t get enough, he did the best he could.

Rowsdower

October 8th, 2012
11:10 pm

Might as well find out, Brava. Gonna have to pay for him anyway. Those that want to watch him go ape while we’re paying for it are insane.

Brava

October 8th, 2012
11:12 pm

I’m surprised I made the list, Braveone. Seems like I only went on that blog to rant after the infamous “Infield Fly Game”. I think I ranted more on Twitter that night, though. I was giving MLB hell. :)

Rowsdower

October 8th, 2012
11:12 pm

Seriously, Braveone…

Brava

October 8th, 2012
11:14 pm

Oooh, Number 18 of the top 100. I’ll take it. :)

JoeBrave

October 8th, 2012
11:15 pm

All in all I wish Uggs could turn it around and be worth what he is being paid, Pastornicky could find some arm strength and make a ton of cash, Jurrjens, and Hanson would just go away far far away like Seattle, and Wren could have one hella off season and bring us a trophy.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 8th, 2012
11:16 pm

I’d rather have Omar Infaunte than dan uggla, and look… He is still playin

Sure you would… 2nd most errors among 2nd baseman, and a .300 obp for the year. Uggla was top 5 defensively, and top 3 in OBP i believe.

Uggla: 98 OPS+, Infante 93

DS1

October 8th, 2012
11:16 pm

I rocked it on July 18th!

WOW. And 15th on the list! I need another hobby.

:wink:

JoeBrave

October 8th, 2012
11:17 pm

GOOOOOO JETS

jbailz23

October 8th, 2012
11:18 pm

Can you imagine how most of you would scream for Wren’s head if he traded him, ate some/most of his payroll and he went and hit 25+ HR’s and 90+ RBI’s for someone else… I’d be on this blog 24/7 watching everyone call for Wren to be fired

JoeBrave

October 8th, 2012
11:18 pm

If we gonna go rather haves I rather have Brandon Phillips at 2B

Brava

October 8th, 2012
11:19 pm

Exactly, jbailz23.

JoeBrave

October 8th, 2012
11:19 pm

jbailz, he most likely is done with hitting over 20 hr. downside and falling there.

Rowsdower

October 8th, 2012
11:19 pm

I’m gonna need to see more from Pastornicky before I make that assessment. Uggla has done it for years. Not the last 2, but, …

jbailz23

October 8th, 2012
11:21 pm

JoeB – Ya, I’d rather have Granderson at CF, Hamilton in LF, Ichiro in RF, Pujols at 1B, Phillips at 2B, Tulo at SS, Beltre at 3B, Verlander SP and Molina C. But life isn’t fair… LOL, and yes for all you bloggers out there I didn’t do any research I put the first big names that came to mind. Don’t bother posting that so and so is better than Ichiro, etc to try and disprove my post..

ncgary

October 8th, 2012
11:22 pm

another year come and gone
hope i make it back for another
lets be selfish
lol

DS1

October 8th, 2012
11:22 pm

I think you’re wrong JoeBrave

I remember how incredibly hot Uggla was in the middle of 2011, after starting off in such a horrendous fashion.

I think the man has 3-4 more really good years left. I dare say he’s going to club over 30 homers at least 1 more time.

Rowsdower

October 8th, 2012
11:22 pm

There’s no chance Uggla is a slap hitting walk, OBP guy. He is going to hit more than 20 HRs for several more years.

Rowswannabe

October 8th, 2012
11:23 pm

Rowsdower a joke wannabe GM with very little knowledge. Wren has not built a GREAT team. Braves have not won a play off since 2001. What do you call great? You saying what Wrens going to do and you don’t have a clue. Hell you funny man not worth the time to respond.

jbailz23

October 8th, 2012
11:23 pm

JoeB – He had 19 HR’s this year and that’s his lowest EVER. Even last year he had 36 in an off year. I won’t give up on him yet.

jocrazy

October 8th, 2012
11:24 pm

He dont care about his players true story my eye fell out of my head i also had shoulder replacement u need both to survive when u cant throw when u cant see try the game idiot manager. by the way i will vote republican

DS1

October 8th, 2012
11:24 pm

You hang in there ncgary.

We need all the stable, good bloggers we can get around here.

JoeBrave

October 8th, 2012
11:24 pm

LOL @ jbailz. nice lineup… I go with Trout, Cargo, Heyward in the OF, Schmidt, Ozzie,Alomar, and McGwire on the IF, Bench behind the plate and Bonds at DH

DS1

October 8th, 2012
11:26 pm

jocrazy

You’re going to give the rest of us right wingers a bad name!

JoeBrave

October 8th, 2012
11:26 pm

I hope you guys are right, but I believe he is done with the big numbers.

jbailz23

October 8th, 2012
11:27 pm

JoeB – I knew you’d say something, I was going with all current guys and whoever came to mind first. I need to see what Trout can do with a full year… I do like that lineup though, going all current in the OF and old school everywhere else… You didn’t name a SP though…

Brave Decisions

October 8th, 2012
11:27 pm

Great interview. I will give my own thoughts and opinions all offseason. Here is the offseason primer http://wp.me/p2lqJ1-eN

Rowsdower

October 8th, 2012
11:28 pm

@Rowswannabe – And, yet, not only did you take the time to respond, but even changed your name. You’re clearly awesome!

jbailz23

October 8th, 2012
11:29 pm

I was thinking the other day, and don’t take this as a knock on Freddie because I love Freddie and think he’s going to be an incredible player. But how good would we have been this year with someone like Miggy C or Prince Fielder hitting in the middle of our lineup? When’s the last time we had a 100+ RBI guy?

JoeBrave

October 8th, 2012
11:29 pm

Gimme Maddux and Clemens Sutton and Guidry

jbailz23

October 8th, 2012
11:30 pm

HAHA, Love it. I love Heyward but give me Mays personally..

JoeBrave

October 8th, 2012
11:30 pm

bringing Lee Smith in to close em out

JoeBrave

October 8th, 2012
11:31 pm

Clemente in CF, Aaron in RF Dawson in LF

jbailz23

October 8th, 2012
11:31 pm

Lee Smith<Craig Kimbrel LOL

jocrazy

October 8th, 2012
11:31 pm

DS1 thats why i added it dont want anybody think i was a wimp SORRY

Rowsdower

October 8th, 2012
11:32 pm

And, what exactly did I do to give the impression that I was trying to act like a GM? Every other idiot on this blog has talked about asinine trades and roster decisions, but you single out the guy that hasn’t done any of that.

jbailz23

October 8th, 2012
11:32 pm

I wish I could have seen Clemente play (too young), only seen replays and highlights.

JoeBrave

October 8th, 2012
11:33 pm

Forgot to tell ya my Ace was Bob Gibson

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 8th, 2012
11:33 pm

Wren has built a good to great team. In 5 years, he took us from having almost nothing on the farm to having a nice crop of pitching prospects and a few decent position prospects as well. The team just won 94 games, and got knocked out by a stupid format and tight play in 1 game. If the format was “normal”, I dare say we beat the Nats in 4.

He’s made upgrades when necessary, (CF, SP, bench) while trading just 1, an injured, top prospect. He’s kept the others in our organization. All while spending about 85 mil a year. I’d say he’s done a mighty fine job.

Peter

October 8th, 2012
11:33 pm

Bottom line with the current GM and the attitude of Corporate ball in Atlanta…… the Braves will never take down another title…….

Justice was too much on the edge…..But hey the Yankees won it all with him…gosh they make all those poor decisions on the way to the bazillion titles they have, and are playing today are they not…….and Justice was the come back player of the year after leaving the Braves… they had it all figured out didn’t they.they only guy with balls, and produced in the clutch they let go.

We had a cohesive and speedy team two seasons ago with a nice thing going on after the All-Star break….but Wren and management decided we needed Rick Ankiel for Blanco, and next season we got Uggla for Infante…….. Sorry……… I would take the speed over the guys we got in return.

Ankiel had Pop.. really…..Sure…. he really hit a ton of HRs here and he is out of baseball today….and who wants Uggla’s big contract ?

Please this softball team is hitting home runs or not winning…of courses the pitchers throw a shut out and we win…..

The big games……. with the division on the line this year we faced a Pittsburgh pitcher who was 0-6 and sported a 6 run era….. we got 5 walks 2 hits and got shut out…….nice..that is competitive.

With any amount of pressure the Braves fold like a card table……..

I hope Chipper enjoyed his BIG Celebration for getting to the Wild card game…… WOW….. cause they and he sure stunk it up in the end.

Fire Wren…the President…..and get some attitude for a change……. Please because this is getting old, and boring.

JoeBrave

October 8th, 2012
11:34 pm

Rowser … wow ! Idiot me? dang !

kenhotlanta

October 8th, 2012
11:35 pm

Ebenezer Snerdberg: So you are an umpire…Majors or minors? :)

jbailz23

October 8th, 2012
11:36 pm

I didn’t mention any asinine trades… But that’s just me…

JoeBrave

October 8th, 2012
11:38 pm

Welp folks I wish you all a blessed evening, may all your dreams come true, and may the Future of the Braves be brighter than any Yankees dynasty ever dared be.

Rowsdower

October 8th, 2012
11:38 pm

@JoeBrave – I was speaking of the people that think we just sign Justin Upton or Can trade a bunch of nothing for CarGo. Unless you made one of those idiotic statements, disregard.

JoeBrave

October 8th, 2012
11:39 pm

jbailz, Clemente was something special, I remember watching as a kid, couldn’t make my mind up if I was Aaron, Clemente, or Garr

caleb

October 8th, 2012
11:41 pm

This is a good article about crappy liberty media (they own the braves!!)

http://www.macon.com/2012/08/12/2134936/braves-winning-despite-ownership.html

Brava

October 8th, 2012
11:41 pm

Have a good one, JoeBrave.

JoeBrave

October 8th, 2012
11:42 pm

actually Rowser I did wish that Colorado would lose their mind and take all our Ugglas, Hansons, Teherans, and Pastornicky’s for CarGO but I know that aint happenin…. carry on with the nimbletard he is trying to ruffle you my friend , best to ignore the idiot.

Rowsdower

October 8th, 2012
11:42 pm

I don’t think any of us need anymore proof that Liberty sux.

JoeBrave

October 8th, 2012
11:43 pm

You too Brava… good nite

Rowsdower

October 8th, 2012
11:44 pm

I said my piece, i’m done with that tard.

Dick Dodge

October 8th, 2012
11:45 pm

JoeBrave…to answer your earlier question, Rowsdower places his allegiance to the player..over the Braves team.

Bill Walsh once said, “It’s better to get rid of a star player a year too early…than a year too late”. Why? Because when you trade a star player a year too early….you get much more back in return…than you would if you traded the star player a year too late (resulting in a much diminished return).

McCann’s ability to produce has diminished, primarily due to his injury problems. Because he plays a physically demanding position….it’s simply too much of a risk to keep paying him the kind of money he’s going to command as a free agent.

Would I love to see McCann be the kind of player he was the prior 4 years before 2011? Sure. However, I just dont see it happening.

Rowsdower

October 8th, 2012
11:52 pm

You’re right, Dick. My 30 years of being a Braves fan has all been a rouse waiting for Mac. You caught me…

Dick Dodge

October 8th, 2012
11:53 pm

JoeBrave, Pastornicky is a joke, totally agree with you. I knew before Spring Training that dude would be a bust. He’s Rafael Belliard…..without the defense!

DOB sure touted Pastornicky, up until the time he was sent down. Just go back and look at the blogs,. Many on here got drunk on the kool-aid.

Venice Jim

October 8th, 2012
11:54 pm

What a moron – Jeter swings at the first pitch…

Rowsdower

October 8th, 2012
11:55 pm

Guess you missed the post where I said trading while injured nets nothing and no reason to re-sign him if he doesn’t bounce back, but that’s ok. I don’t expect you to actually listen to anyone else, rather just keep shoveling your unenlightened opinion.

jj

October 9th, 2012
12:01 am

Who you talking to Rowsdower?

Rowsdower

October 9th, 2012
12:05 am

Sorry, meant to tag it with Dick. He disagrees with someone and makes an asinine argument to make himself look good.

DS1

October 9th, 2012
12:06 am

I just came to the realization that next year is all taken care for the most part. We just need to pay Bourn whatever it takes to keep him, because we have the savior for 2013 parked in the minors!

DS1

October 9th, 2012
12:06 am

EVAN GATTIS will be here to save the day!

DS1

October 9th, 2012
12:07 am

They spend 90 million on a major league team, and they are terrible owners? Why don’t you go to Miami or Pittsburgh and see how you like it there?

DS1

October 9th, 2012
12:08 am

Sorry VJ, still not willing to watch any major league baseball. No apology yet from Bud.

DS1

October 9th, 2012
12:09 am

I’m obviously talking to myself………….

:lol:

Dick Dodge

October 9th, 2012
12:10 am

Rowsdower, McCann is one year away from being a free agent.

Because of the nature of the position he places, combined with the fact that the Braves are in the National League, the Braves face huge risks with re-signing McCann, given his battles with injuries the past 2 years.

Yadier Molina is a beast behind the plate defensively. He stays healthy, is very durable. He handles a pitching staff great…and cuts down the opposing running game.

McCann will never sniff a Gold Glove. He’s a liability behind the plate. Everything from the “I’m going to backhand every wild pitch, because I’m too lazy to shift my fat azz over to block the wild pitch”….to……”throwing out 15% of would be base runners is considered a miracle for me”…..to getting the hebejebees when it comes blocking the plate (letting a number of throws from the outfield pop out of his glove on bang/bang plays)…..over the course of a 162 game season (at this point, expecting him to start 110-120 games behind the plate is asking for a lot) exposes his defensive flaws.

David Ross getting the starting nod in the play-in game over McCann (if he’s healthy enough to pinch hit in a playoff game..he’s healthy enough to play, period) shows that McCan’t isnt worth what he’s going to command on the free agent market.

At least in the American League, he can hack away as a DH.

benchwarmer

October 9th, 2012
12:13 am

Braves need beyond just talent, some tough guys who never know the word quit, say like Pendleton, Joe Morgan, Jeter. And these guys all have leadership ability in bunches. For all the good qualities Chipper had I just don’t think he could inspire his team to play as well as he, within their own ability of course.

Venice Jim

October 9th, 2012
12:14 am

Wayne – then you might not watch for years and years and years… ;)

benchwarmer

October 9th, 2012
12:17 am

I’m quite leary about signing Borne. To many strickouts. Not great for a leadoff guy.

Venice Jim

October 9th, 2012
12:17 am

Since Joe Girardi is not a blogger, I hope I can criticize the comment “Baltimore and us have kind of went back and forth all year”…

jim

October 9th, 2012
12:19 am

Before Cox and Chipper has any player within memory had a retirement tour like Chipper’s? In the past before free agency, star players were given days where they got presents like cars and fan tributes from the home crowd, never the visitors. More recently, did Cal Ripken have a retirement tour? Griffey just left. Will Mariano Rivera have a similar tour next year? I somehow doubt it. Chipper playing the last 7 games in a row might have put extra seats in the stands for LM, but hurt the player and the team going into the playoffs. The focus became the end of an era rather than the start of a run into the post season.

Dick Dodge

October 9th, 2012
12:19 am

DS1, what does Bud Selig need to apologize for? The Braves have themselves to blame for being in the position of having to play the play-in Wild Card game. When you dont care care of business during the 162 game regular season….you dont deserve the luxury of an automatic bid into the Division Series.

Win the division, you escape the play-in game. I’m totally down for rewarding the 3 division winners with the right to play an actual series.

To me, the Wild Cards should be forced to endure the stress that comes with playing a one game play-in game…as well as losing the option of having your ace pitch Game 1 of the Division Series (should they advance). The one thing that people are forgetting…is that the beneficiary of this is the team with the best record in each league (which should be ultimately rewarded because they EARNED that reward with having the best record over a 162 game season).

How hard is that to understand? Quit blaming Selig, when Braves management made bad decisions like giving Delgado 17 starts (and Teheran one) before finally giving Medlen his first start on July 31st. Blame our collective lack of clutch hitting….as well as our atrocious defense in the play-in game.

If you’re looking for apologizes…demand it from Braves management and the players!

benchwarmer

October 9th, 2012
12:20 am

How many times did Chipper swing at first pitch during the late part of this season. Self confidence had better endurance then his game.

DS1

October 9th, 2012
12:21 am

We are going to have quite a few openings on the 40 man roster after our retirees and free agents are removed from the list.

Rowsdower

October 9th, 2012
12:26 am

Who exactly is re-signing him? His option will be picked up, but he is not getting a new contract. The Braves simply do not have a better option. If they did, I can understand your argument, but they don’t.

The Braves are going to bring Mac back next year, and if he doesn’t bounce back from surgery, they will not re-sign him.

How is this confusing to you?

Dick Dodge

October 9th, 2012
12:28 am

benchwarmer, I saw Chipper’s “speech” before the All-Star game. Let’s just say that Ben Stein from Ferris Bueller’s Day Off calling roll at the beginning of class….was more awe inspiring.

Bourn strikes out too much for a lead-off hitter. If the Braves are going to overpay for a free agent, I’d rather see them overpay for Josh Hamilton…who would be our best middle of the line-up guy since Gary Sheffield in 2003.

Pay Hamilton and Cody Ross….we’d have a nice outfield of Ross, Hamilton and Heyward.

DS1

October 9th, 2012
12:33 am

Did any of you folks see the Bryce Harper interview after K’ing 4 times tonight? What an azz hole! His mama needs to give him a whupping four shore.

Dick Dodge

October 9th, 2012
12:36 am

Rowsdower…I’m saying that we dont bring him back in 2013. I say we pick up his option, with the intention of trading him to an American League team (who will give us more in return than a National League team..because of McCann’s added value as a DH).

However, if McCann needs surgery and has little trade value..I say we decline the option and let him walk. We’d have $11.5 mil available to improve our team.

The past several years, we’ve had dead money killing our payroll. Kenshin Kawacrappy, Nate McLousy and Derek Lowe. Wouldnt it be nice to finally have a chance to pay players who actually produce?

Rowsdower

October 9th, 2012
12:37 am

So, $30M for Hamilton? I think you need to watch more Rangers games from late in the year. You might change your mind.

Mixxo

October 9th, 2012
12:40 am

Haven’t seen it yet DS1. He must have a thing for clowns though. Did ya see that fancy eye black he was sportin’ today?

Clown-like bro.

Mark

October 9th, 2012
12:41 am

Cut the losses with Uggla – Rather not go through 3 more years of a league leading strikeout leader that hits 220. Then move Prado to 2nd.

Sign a 3B and 1 outfielder that can bat leadoff. Bourn will cost way to much for a guy that swings and misses and Ks as much as he does. May have to play Jhey in CF unfortunately. Not that he can’t but would wear him down more but he can do it.

Other position guys are good to go.

Let JJ and Hanson go.

Rowsdower

October 9th, 2012
12:43 am

I understand your theory, but giving up on a 28 year old, 6 time all-star because he needs surgery seems drastic. That money would be great if there was even a viable option at catcher on the market. There isn’t. Napoli is a product of playing for Texas with monsters around him, a short porch and extreme heat. All of which contribute to his numbers. The Braves can’t offer the same environment.

I would appreciate your argument more if Bethancourt was ready to step into the roll, but he simply isn’t. Maybe in 2014.

Rowsdower

October 9th, 2012
12:43 am

I understand your theory, but giving up on a 28 year old, 6 time all-star because he needs surgery seems drastic. That money would be great if there was even a viable option at catcher on the market. There isn’t. Napoli is a product of playing for Texas with monsters around him, a short porch and extreme heat. All of which contribute to his numbers. The Braves can’t offer the same environment.

I would appreciate your argument more if Bethancourt was ready to step into the roll, but he simply isn’t. Maybe in 2014.

Venice Jim

October 9th, 2012
12:51 am

“Cut the losses” -does that mean ignoring the $39,000,000 the Braves owe him, and paying it just to be happy to be rid of hime…

Rowsdower

October 9th, 2012
12:51 am

There will no cutting of losses with Uggla. MLB contracts are guarenteed. We’re gonna have to live with his ups and downs and hope there are more ups over the next 3 years…

Capt.Mudd

October 9th, 2012
12:53 am

And now comes patience….as the team is being assembled and all the aches and pain slip away….[we] fans while away the hours by hoisting brew, watching football and wondering if our Bravos will learn to hit with RISP……..Mr. Wren has addressed the important questions; I assume a new batch of kool-aide is in the works for 2013…as well as the restructured ‘Cap Tipping’ certification course–so all looks well….good to be a Bravo…..keep your respective skills sharp….and, when you encounter someone trying to convince you of something, don’t ‘fall’ for the first pitch.

Mark

October 9th, 2012
1:03 am

Just like a divorce – whatever it takes. I’ve had buddies that get divorced and by the time it finally happened they didn’t mind paying. For two years we have had to endure his sorry at bats minus one 30 game hitting streak his first year that the Uggla lovers point to as his greatness. He is terrible now and aint getting better. Hope I never have to watch him hit again in a Braves uniform. I don’t think you have to look any further than him for last years collapse and this years 2nd place finish in the East.

I’d much rather watch Prado at 2B and Johnson and Constanza platoon in left than watch Uggla flail away at the dish.

Mark

October 9th, 2012
1:06 am

Yep. Just like a divorce. He sucks and life aint gonna be happy in Atlanta for the Braves as long as Uggs is out there.

Dick Dodge

October 9th, 2012
1:21 am

I watched a number of Rangers games on the MLB package. Texas’ struggles werent just Hamilton’s fault.

Hamilton isnt going to get $30 mil. More around $23-$24 mil a year over 5 years. The Yankees nor Red Sox are going to sign him (driving down the bidding). And Texas let Cliff Lee walk, rather than overpay him.

Because the Braves have a solid team in place….I could see Hamilton taking a 5 year, $100 mil type contract from the Braves.

Michael Bourn is going to be disappointed by the market. I dont see him getting the $15 mil a year he wants.

You were robbed!

October 9th, 2012
1:33 am

No more 5 year contracts! Send Uggla down to the minors, or even little league and see if he can remember how to hit home runs. We are stuck with that great, great production for another 3 years. Yikes! And how about that great throw to 1st base. Awesome.

Dick Dodge

October 9th, 2012
1:58 am

The notion of “hustle” is overrated. I’m not saying that I’m ok with players “loafing”…what I’m saying is that I am not more inclined to be patient with a player who is struggling…just because he hustles.

The notion of being a “good clubhouse guy” is also overrated. Again, I’m not saying that I’m ok with a player causing a ruckus in the locker room……what I’m saying is that I am not more inclined to be patient with a struggling player….just because he’s a good influence in the locker room.

The past few years have shown that fielding a bench full of “good locker room guys who hustle” isnt enough. Eric Hinske stank up the place in 2012 (he struggled last year as well). Matt Diaz hasnt been a force with the bat in 3 years. Brooks Conrad couldnt catch a cold. Paul Janish is all glove….Triple A bat. Peter Moylan cant stay healthy.

Instead of worrying about how someone is going to fit in the locker room…..put more focus on how a player’s production is going to fit in the win column.

“Hustle” and “being a good guy” are way overrated sentiments that gullible fans use to justify their blind loyalty to the player and team. Without those sentiments to fall back on…the fans would have to face reality: The bill of good they were sold….was a flawed product, possibly by fraudulent means.

Were reality to sink in…..depression, then anger would soon follow…which is the last thing that the powers that be (Braves management and Braves players) want. Where they want your “anger” to be directed at….is at the umpire who made the bad “infield fly rule” call…..and at Bud Selig for the one game play-in game. Anywhere but where it is deserved (again, at Braves management and the Braves players).

Dick Dodge

October 9th, 2012
2:10 am

Rowsdower…….McCann hasnt really played at an All-Star level since the 1st half of 2011. He was injured in the 2nd half of 2011…as well as throughout 2012.

In the ideal world, it would be nice to give McCann one more year…giving Bentencourt one more year of seasoning in the Minors. However, by keeping McCann for the 2013 season..the Braves have two choice regarding McCann after the 2013 season: Lose him to free agency and get nothing in return..or…pay him a huge contract to re-sign.

Being willing to trade McCann in the off season….would give the Braves great leverage when it comes to getting a return on McCann (more in return than his production would be in 2013).

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