4:50 pm October 8, 2012, by David O'Brien
October 8th, 20125:02 pm
The future once again is to wait till next yr & they will find a way to disappoint again.
They even might make another WC run only to bow down early in post season again.
There is NO HOPE. The Braves cannot do it. Don’t matter who wears this uniform.
And Hanson is lazy, second rate pitcher who needs to pitch in a league that ends in July.
October 8th, 20125:10 pm
Stamina was not Tommy’s issue. Lack of a good fastball was.
October 8th, 20125:16 pm
Simple fix for the infield fly rule. It is designed to protect the offense. All you have to do is say that in the same situation, a dropped fly ball cannot be turned into a double play. If you drop it, you can force one runner but no double play. Simple fix.
King of Carrot Flowers
Still trying to erase the final image Chipper left us for his career. Can’t imagine a more disastrous end to an otherwise storybook season.
First, there was the week-long personal victory lap that was the final homestand. Obviously it wasn’t in the team’s best interest for Chipper to play every day, when he hadn’t been healthy enough to do that all year. Would he have played better against the Cardinals given normal rest? We’ll never know…
Of all people to Buckner an elimination game to end a HOF career, I would’ve never bet on Chipper to go out like that. Enough has been said about the bad throw. At least that was a physical error…
Most disappointing of all was Chipper’s final “hit”…9th inning of an elimination game…Chipper fists a ball up the middle that has infield hit written all over it. But for some inexplicable reason, he couldn’t even muster max effort for one last sprint to first. And as a result, he was out. Even though the ump missed the call. Really, Chipper? That’s what you wanted to leave us with? An out that would’ve been a hit for any schlub that bothered to run hard in a playoff game?
It brings to mind George Brett’s famous quote, when asked what he wanted out of his final AB:
“I want to hit a ground ball to second,” Brett replied, “bust my butt down the line and be out by an eyelash.”
Chipper obviously had thoughts to the contrary. He might’ve said:
“I want to hit a ground ball up the middle, cadillac down the line and be out by an eyelash.”
There aren’t many players who’ve had a better career than Chipper, and Braves fans have been lucky to watch him play for all these years. I just can’t help but think his personal sendoff became a huge distraction for going out the right way, and keeping his focus on the team, as it had been for 19 years. It was certainly a sad ending for a great player.
October 8th, 20125:18 pm
Yeah; Here we go w/ rhetoric & pull’n the rug out beneath the fans again. Who can be Genuine around Here? Who’s for real Uncle Frank?
One Big Dummy
October 8th, 20125:22 pm
DOB, in regards to the question about Freeman’s Lasik surgery, is Wren’s response about Freddie or Fredi?
October 8th, 20125:26 pm
You sugar coated everything real good Frank!
Nice interview DOB! Would love one with the same questions for Fredi!
Solid interview. Thanks, DOB.
Thank you, DOB.
Interesting that Wren and McCann don’t seem to be on the same sheet of music when it comes to whether Mac will need surgery. Also interesting that he says 2b and 3b are Prado’s best positions. I don’t want to read too much into it, but could it be possible he’ll try to shop Uggla during the off-season? Not that I think any team would want to take him and his salary on.
I know many are down on Bourn for his lackluster second half, but I, for one, hope Wren is able to re-sign him. If they do, I think Fredi should give him more days off, he just seemed to be running on fumes there at the end until he got that break from the thumb injury.
I also saw no mention of the bench. Surely he doesn’t think the one we had this season was adequate. I don’t know the stats, but I’m sure it had to be one of the poorest hitting benches in baseball. Sure hope he puts some effort into improving that.
Whatever happens, it should be an exciting post-season, unlike the one last year which could not have been more boring.
October 8th, 20125:29 pm
Should have said off-season. The post season was not to be for the Bravos.
October 8th, 20125:30 pm
October 8th, 2012
Agree, would love to hear the same interview with ex-manager Fredi G.
October 8th, 20125:37 pm
An obvious change for the infield fly rule in the postseason should be that it’s not the outfield umpire’s call to make. There’s absolutely no reason why an outfield umpire should be a better judge of an infield fly than an infield umpire. The outfield umpire isn’t making any other calls that relate to the infield — balls/strikes, safe/out at bases, balks, etc.
Thanks DOB. Good to hear from Wren. I was really frustrated with some of the management in recent years, but have become more optimistic about FW, Freddi, and co. And as always, I appreciate your hard work. You do a great job and should be commended for it.
Brave New World
October 8th, 20125:42 pm
Frank Wren has turned a losing team into a play off team. We won 94 games in 2012. It will be exciting to see what happens to improve the Braves this winter. GO BRAVES!
October 8th, 20125:43 pm
Hey DOB! I do thank you for the interviews, the efforts, the questions, & also having to set appointments w/players, officials, & any of the brass that you have to schedule. I commend you brother, even for this down time, still trying to seek answers. You’re job isn’t easy, & you do ask tough questions Bro. You don’t ask the clown questions bro….LOL…. seriously, I do enjoy you’s & Carrolls blogs. Alot of time & Hard work, keep it going, you’re much appreciated!
Slammin' Helmets, and Breakin' Bats!
October 8th, 20125:46 pm
Unless they completely break down Hanson’s delivery, and then build it from scratch, he’s not going to get any better. With the amount of pitching talent this organization has, it’s surprising management remains hooked on some pitchers who never deliver for so long. KK, Lowe, Linebrink, Proctor, Jurrjens, and now Hanson. In the past two seasons, Hanson has shown little improvement, and he actually seems to be getting worse and worse. He’s unable to hold runners, he can’t locate his 87-89 mph fastball, and he basically only has a two-pitch repertoire. Hanson was very lucky to pick up 13 wins this year. I doubt he would have had a winning record at season’s end if it weren’t for our offense picking him up on many occasions. Remember the 9 run deficit the Braves made up in that game against the Nationals? Yeah, that was a Hanson start, and there were plenty of other starts that were similar.
October 8th, 20125:48 pm
@ king of carrot; I resoundly agree w you’re statement, Totally!
October 8th, 20125:50 pm
“That being said, there are not a lot of pieces out there in the free-agent market this year that are all that appealing. So we might have to look other places.”
There’s only 1 good piece… a free agent pitcher, in Anaheim…
But we’re not getting a pitcher. Not a lot of good options on the market. Gonna be some trades going on this winter.
October 8th, 20125:52 pm
Bench should be improved… Pastornicky will hit better than Hack-Bunt Wilson, Reed’s better than Diaz, and our backup 1B will be better than Ske…
October 8th, 20125:54 pm
Based on the team’s gag jobs every stinking year, I expected them to come up short yet again but I also thought I’d be immune to being upset and angry. And I was, until I started watching the first round of the playoffs and those teams play and then I saw how some teams rise up and play with confidence and energy and manage to win. Why can’t we do that!!?? Why are we always the team that chokes, that can’t hit when it counts, can’t make the key pitch, throws the ball away and friggin chokes, every stinking post-season!!!! With the exception of 1995, that’s the way it’s been. Dammit.
October 8th, 20125:55 pm
Isn’t Swisher a free agent this year? Maybe grab him and put him in LF and move Prado to 3B? I don’t think Swisher will demand crazy money and he’s solid defensively and a good bat.
spittoon for struggla
Well put re: Chipper’s last hoorah, “King of Carrot Flowers.” It was indicative of the culture of the team for the last number of years. Apathetic, and sometimes just pathetic.
October 8th, 20125:57 pm
Swisher supposedly wants Werth money (17-20 mil/yr) and is 32.
With you too, “SR.” And previous posts regarding the bench.
Looking forward to seeing Borne become the highest paid CFer in baseball, and still in a Braves uni.
October 8th, 20126:01 pm
Is he a Boras client too? Swisher I mean
@ Disgusted: Seriously? For everyone except the team that wins the Worlds Series, it’s “Wait ’til next year.” I’m sure Frank Wren is racking his brain looking for new ways to disappoint. You can tell that’s why he’s invested his life in baseball. Same with Fredi. They get together and say, “how long can we string these fans along for?” Grow up.
October 8th, 20126:02 pm
Truthfully, Wren should go.
If not, and he has any brains, he would dump Gonzalez, Pendleton, McDowell, and Snitker,, too.
He should not even bother with Maholm, Hanson, McCann, or Bourn.
Try to dump Uggla, if possible. Put Francisco at 3rd, Prado at 2nd, Constanza in CF, and Johnson in LF.
Get a bat or two, or three.
October 8th, 20126:03 pm
@Frank Wren – J-Hey is arguably the best right fielder out there?
Whoa! Did he say that? Love the kid but J-Hey’s fielding needs work. Don’t think he’d finish in the top 6 for Gold Glove.
Somebody tell me I’m crazy.
October 8th, 20126:05 pm
I wonder how much management has taken into account what the lack of Chipper will mean for attendance next year. We all know that Liberty Media is only in this to make money, and thus our payroll will fluctuate based on attendance and revenue. With Chipper gone, the Braves are not going to lose a large amount of the fan base they have had, however the casual fan is going to think twice about going to the ballpark without a star to see. Heyward isn’t the star they would need to fill seats, he might be in the future but not yet. With Chippers career coming to an end over the past few years, we have been averaging around 30,000 a year. Now that he’s gone, who is going to attract them to the stadium? Even if the Braves go 110-52 next year and win the division, they will find it hard to fill the stadium, unless the either sign a big name free agent that will fill the void, or they win a division series and people will come out and support the NLCS. I’m guessing that if we don’t sign a big name to fill the void left by Chipper that attendance will drop to under 25,000 a game (almost 5,000 less than last year). Less attendance means less revenue which means a lower payroll……. Long story short, it will be interesting to see what happens.
Will Frank defer to the blog “analysts”/”scouts”/”experts” at the meetings?
I’m not sure what B/Macs contract status would be if he elected to have surgery but he would mis 3-5 months next season so I assume the braves would have to pay him although insurance would probably pay most of it. However, Wren is hoping he doesn’t have to have surgery, that way the Braves would be free to either pick up the option or buy out his contract saving millions of dollars.
DOB – Could you shed some light on how surgery would affect B/Macs contract options???
October 8th, 20126:07 pm
crackbaby – You’re crazy, look at his defensive statistics compared to other RF’s. I don’t remember the exact stats but they mentioned him leading several categories… and “fan” – why dump McCann? Is 5 all star appearances in 6 years not enough? Damn, dude has one year when he struggles mostly due to nagging injuries and you’re ready to dump him? This team won 94 flippin games and half the people on here are ready to throw them to the wolves. Sheesh grow up guys! Go root for the Mets, they had a great year this year!
Virginia Brave Fan
October 8th, 20126:08 pm
Lets sign Justin Upton to bat lead off and replace Bourn in CF. I have no idea what to do with LF/3B/2B. I don’t think Fransico is an everyday player. And I absolutely can not stand another season of Uggla. I’d love to see Martin back at 2b, Reed Johnson maybe in LF and ?????? at the hot corner. Maybe Pastornycky at 2B, Martin at 3B? Anyone but Uggla.
Didn’t expect Wren to say much else. He’s never won anything worth a damn and keeps putting teams out there that aren’t producing when it matters the most. Time to go to Target.
October 8th, 20126:10 pm
You hit the nail square on the head!
Wren is dislusional if he thinks he only has to deal with CF and replacing Chipper at 3rd.
He has a CF, he just has to decide if he will pay him. He solves the problem for a leadoff hitter, base stealer, and defense in center; Bourn is the answer. Now if Boras takes him to the open market, fine. What I would like the Braves to do is make him an above average offer based on available funds and secure this position for a number of years. Should he take another offer, sign BJ Upton or give the job to Constanza. He would feel the same job description, but give you a better chance for infield hits & bunts. My main point is to be proactive and at least let us fans see you try to sign the guy instead of letting someone else set the market and you bow out with no effort shown.
Replacing Chipper, give the job to Prado & sign him to an extension asap. Your infield would be set with Prado 3B, Simmons SS, Freeman 1B and Uggla/Janish/Pastornicky at 2B. I could live with all 3 batting 8th, even Uggla. If Uggla has to bat higher, he has to go, I have seen enough sample size to move him or bat him 8th.
Wren should try to move Uggla & McCann; these two players should help you land a good LF via trade if needed. Braves will also have cash available from Chipper & Lowe ($22 mil) to pursue LF or 3B with Prado going back to 2nd & Uggla traded freeing up even more cash.
If they need more cash, do not excercise team option on McCann: then sign defensive catcher & bat him 7th…Molina like talent.
Add another quality pitcher to starting rotation, rid the team of Hanson’s contract, and keep Hudson or let him go as well, if you can find quality pitcher as mentioned.
Bourn CF, if he signs offer, or FA…BJ Upton, or Constanza (lineup or bench)
Prado (3B or 2B)
Free Agent (LF)
Free Agent (C)
Uggla (2B), if not traded, Janish if no FA found for 3B, Prado on 2B if sign FA 3B
make an offer to Bourn, get Free Agent LF, Free Agent Catcher, sign Free Agent 3B
move Uggla contract, trade McCann, trade Hanson & get back quality pitcher…
then your roster would be solid Mr Wren!!!
October 8th, 20126:11 pm
Swisher is not a Boras client.
October 8th, 20126:13 pm
Great work DOB.Wren needs to finally admit that this offense has been awful for 3 years.Time to fix it by any and all means possible.Braves got lots of money coming off the books,and plenty of arms that could be dealt to improve the everyday line up.Time for a change in attitude and results in the post season.Teams celebrating at the Ted cannot continue.9 times in 17 years way too much.
FRANK WREN IS PURE BS
October 8th, 20126:14 pm
Everything that proceedeth from the mouth of Frank Wren is pure BS! First thing they ought to do is fire Fredi Gonzalez and Roger McDowell, release JJ and Tommy Hanson and trade Brian McCann for somebody who can see, hit, and play every day. Glad the Chipper Gimper Jones ERA is over in Atlanta.
October 8th, 20126:15 pm
One more question, Mr. Wren. “Do you think Uggla is worth 12 million dollars or about 2 cents?”
October 8th, 20126:16 pm
There’s only one place he’ll find that kind of money and it’ll determine if the Yankees wanna keep him or not.
October 8th, 20126:17 pm
I wish people would stop talking about trading McCann, you cannot trade him unless you pick up his option first then he could probably veto a trade.
October 8th, 20126:20 pm
7-1 Cardinals. Like I said, you don’t want to clinch early if that means you’re going to put it on auto-pilot and rest everyone for the last week or two and play .500 ball. Can’t just flip the switch when the playoffs start. Cardinals should be going up 2 games to none, frankly.
Trade Uggla and pay half his salary the next 3 years and save $6million a year.
October 8th, 20126:24 pm
I would say moving Martin Prado to third base and going after a LF and CF would be the best move. There are more outfielders out there than third basemen.
Yes Way Josè
October 8th, 20126:25 pm
Crackbaby: You’re crazy.
October 8th, 20126:31 pm
FRANK, YOUR RESIGNATION WOULD BE THE BEST NEWS WE COULD GET! YOU’RE TOTALLY INEPT!
October 8th, 20126:34 pm
All caps should help your case
October 8th, 20126:35 pm
has to laugh every time I read a Wren interview.
RE: Tehran and Delgado.
They are doing so well that we traded for Maholm and signed Sheets of the sheetpile.
Wren is so good at ruining his players value.
October 8th, 20126:36 pm
FIRE Wren….. they did in Baltimore….and now we have him and what have we done.. ZERO ZERO ZERO !!!!!!!
Like that loser Renteria
October 8th, 20126:37 pm
“We’re going to be looking for premium players, I don’t think there’s any doubt about that. But a couple of things we’re always mindful of. We’re mindful of, we’re putting a team together. We’re not trying to put a player on this team. And so that’s our overriding philosophy of putting a good team together – if we think we can add two players that give us more than one player, we’re going to do that.
“So we’re not going to go outrageous salary-wise. We’ve seen that time after time bite teams in the butt, so we’re not going to play that game.”
I HATE this statement! Reading between the lines, Wren clearly is stating that they are not going to do what it takes to win a World Series. He will only do enough to “dangle a carrot” so to speak to the fan base…giving the team a chance to make the playoffs and then letting things play out from there.
But, to win, you HAVE TO SPEND. He doesn’t have to be outrageous and spend $200 million on a roster…but he does need to be realistic and wise up to the fact that you are leaving yourself NO ROOM for error and also need to bank on a lot of luck with an $85 million payroll. Spending $100-$105 is not outrageous, it is realistic in this market, but..the Braves will not do that-Wren just said it himself. So we can kiss Michael Bourn good-bye.
I also like his nonchalant statement about “just” having to replace Chipper. Yeah…that’ll be easy, replacing one of the best players in the history of the game. The glue to your lineup, heart and soul of your team and the biggest reason fans go through the turnsytle.
If Wren doesn’t spend and make a big splash in free agency or via a trade, things could spiral down even farther than they did when Ted sold the Braves to the devil aka “the corporate world”
Reading his comments gives me no hope.
October 8th, 20126:40 pm
Lol at the IDIOT that suggested sign J Upton…Justin Uptown. Is a RF for Arizona a and would have to be traded for.. hid bro BJ on the other hand is a CF and a free agent u
mm no thanks!
October 8th, 20126:41 pm
A wrap-up interview with the GM, and not a single mention of Gonzalez, except to ask if his coaches are coming back. Disappointing and typical.
October 8th, 20126:44 pm
Frank Wren doesn’t deserve any heat for this loss. This one’s on Chipper.
This was a game they had to win. It was Chipper’s last shot at another title. It was the one chance they’d have to make up for last season’s epic collapse. They could have handed it back to the Cardinals, the very team that overtook them on the final day of the season last year.
They had the lead. They had the historically-hottest pitcher in 100 years on the mound, pitching a shutout, and the historically-hottest closer EVER in the bullpen. The pitchers weren’t going to lose it — no way.
Chipper Jones threw it away.
Since Glavine and Smoltz left in 2008, this has been Chipper’s team, and especially after Bobby Cox left after the 2010 season.
In Chipper’s first season here, the team would win its one and only world title. Since then they have melted down and choked every single autumn. Chipper remains the only link to all of those chokes. He has never carried his team to ultimate October glory, as the great team-leaders have done. On the contrary, he has been directly responsible in both of the two post-Bobby collapses — first by losing the ball in the lights last year, and then by throwing the game away Friday night.
Through it all, he has never been one to hold his tongue. He has crowed (”They can go home and put their Yankees stuff on”), and he has criticized (”Heyward should play hurt.”) He has said that others should give more effort, as he himself gave less.
He deserves to be in the Hall of Fame for his individual achievements, which are many. But his teams should have won more than one world championship. They could have won just one more this year, but they didn’t. All he had to do was to make that one easy throw to second, but he couldn’t.
So don’t blame Frank Wren. This one was on Chipper.
Nich Swisher is not the answer to anything
He would actually make me want to watch the Braves less.
Nick Swisher-JUST SAY NO!
October 8th, 20126:45 pm
I have been a big fan of McCann, but here’s my observation on what I would do…not that anyone asked, but hey.
The Braves right now only spend around $90M annually on player salaries (I say “only” like that’s not a lot of money, but you get the idea). McCann is not a HOFer right now and if he doesn’t regain the form from his first few years, he won’t be. As such, he does not warrant 13% of the team’s annual salaries. Is McCann’s offense above average for his position? Even this year, yes, it is. The other issue is this: McCann is a catcher, so by nature he is going to miss a lot of games (around 40 each of the last 2 years). Can the team afford to pay for offense to sit on the bench? I don’t think so. If McCann could be brought back at say… $8M/yr…go for it…but $12M just seems way to high for this team’s needs and financial status. I’d rather get another catcher like Ross and put that money in “premium” players at “premium” positions like LF and/or 3B, which coicidently, we need.
As for Bourn… splits be damned, I’d rather take a run at trading for Dexter Fowler first. If you can’t get him, then Bourn. Fowler is more economical and still improving.
October 8th, 20126:46 pm
You will see either Victorino in Cf and Prado in LFO or
Cain in Cf and Moustaskas at 3b. With Prado in LFO and a run at Greinke whilst getting Anibal Sanchez
October 8th, 20126:48 pm
Board experts OMG most board experts have never been outside in the sunshine and are between 10 years old and 20 years old. They can sure read advanced stats, but because they have no other experience they don’t know how to interpret the stat sheet.
This is not a knock on the board experts that gum their food and drool on themselves until they ring the buzzer for cleanup and bedpan swap. If you gather your decisions on players and info from a blog or message board you need to get to the park more.
And will somebody please stop it with the Costanza horsesh1t he will never be a ml. Starter
October 8th, 20126:49 pm
willingham is probably the best trade target, RH power hitter, fits the budget with 2 years 14 million left on his deal. the twins need starting pitching and we have plenty of that. For CF i think that defense should be priority. but we are lacking a leadoff man so who knows.
October 8th, 20126:51 pm
King of Carrot Flowers
October 8th, 2012
October 8th, 20126:52 pm
The Angels have a fantastic team and go out and add Trout, Pujols and Greinke so experts tell me how that worked out for them. So adding a Pujols and Greinke and the best rookie in 30 years would not guarantee the Braves a post season so just stop with the nonsense.
October 8th, 20126:58 pm
Best bet here is Brett Lawrie and Rajai Davis… but for whom?
Thank you DOB for good interview with FW. I would not overspend tp keep BOURN,think JOHNSON and JOSE C can handle CF. BRAVES real need is a solid good hitting LFder, because I believe MARTIN should be our every day 3RD BASEMAN. With our pitching staff and some improvement of bench BRAVES should be fine to at least equil this years win total. Of course FREDI will have to be a bit smarter and show some energy.
October 8th, 20127:01 pm
Either way, Wren will screw this up big time! see Lowe ,Kawakami,Uggla,among others!
Best solution is to get rid of outfield umpires for the postseason. They arn’t used for the other 162 games so why are they necessary during the playoffs?
October 8th, 20127:03 pm
WTH? 2 part time players manning full time positions, I am damn glad George isn’t the GM! Constanza is a minor league lifer for a damn good reason!
October 8th, 20127:07 pm
BTW: I also like the Willingham for…Hanson (plus something else I’m sure) trade idea, provided it isn’t Delgado/Teheran added in to the trade. Willingham is affordable $7M/yr, is RH, is OK in the field, has power, and would move Prado to 3B…perfect. That trade makes WAY to much sense not to happen. Braves would have ALL kinds of $ left to resign Bourn if they wanted, pick up all the options, and even sign a longer term deal for Prado.
October 8th, 20127:09 pm
FREDI should be replaced as MGR, but won’t be.
October 8th, 20127:10 pm
October 8th, 20127:11 pm
Schuerholze (?) wrote us a letter of apology after the colapse, & the way it went down unnacceptable, now he had to write a letter of apology to stl.organization & their fans about the Atl’s fans of their unprofessional reaction as unnacceptable & unproffesional to their homeboysam’s assumptional judgement call; moniker;(The mid outfield Holbrook fly rule),
This was a horrible end. The defensive errors, umpires, everything was horrible. We lost that game, the Cards did not win.
We do have a good nucleus, a much better one in tact especially in pitching. But Frank Wren is absolutely delusional if he wants to keep Tommy Hanson. Guy is clearly the WORST starting pitcher we had this year, and I’d give Delgado another shot to be the fifth starter until Beachy returns.
Chipper’s career ended like much of his career played out. Great during the season, bad post season. He used to have good playoff seasons, but that error in 01 in the NLCS, the terrible postseason he had in 05 and now. It’s just frustrating. The guy is a legend and my favorite player ever, but he could never get to the end except for that one time. Came close, he tried and fought with all he could, but just couldn’t do that.
We just can’t seem to get over that hump anymore. Heck, Chipper just had to make that one play, and we probably would have won the game. Sad that he went out like that.
But moving on. Fresh slate, no more postseason chocking. I’d take winning the WC game next year. We just need to not make stupid errors in the postseason. Simple as that. We should have won that game.
Get Ben Revere. Should come cheap and he’s pretty much Michael Bourn, but younger. Had 42 stolen bases and hit 292 this year. As much as I like Mike, he wears down over the second half. We’ve seen it back to back years. Need to get him for CF, and make a run at say a Josh Willingham to go to left and Prado at third. Or keep Prado at LF and make a serious run at David Wright or Chase Headly. Or trade Hanson and Uggla and Tehran for Justin Upton. He’s got potential to be an MVP candidate like he was in 2011.
I would not exercise the option on McCann, make him prove to you he can bounce back before giving him 12 million next year.
Same with Hudson, wouldn’t exercise the option, see how age treats him.
Gotta just do what we need to, to put the team in a good position. We have more money, cut the dead weight (JJ, Hanson), and go get those pieces. Like Michael go and get a cheaper, younger and potentially better Ben Revere. Make a run at Chase Headly, or Upton. Show us, the fan, that you are willing to make the moves to be a championship contender. Staying pat almost worked and should have worked. But we clearly need some different pieces in here to develop that truly killer instinct that the Nats have this year and the Phils had during their five NL East titles. Being the lowest hitting team in baseball with RISP KILLED us in that WC game. Yes, those errors were terrible and cost us the game. But had we hit better with RISP, we would have scored ten runs in that game on Friday!
October 8th, 20127:12 pm
Willingham would be good for this team, but he just came off of a career year. First time over 30 HR and 100 RBI. The Twins will be selling quite high on him. I’d bet that they’d want Teheran or Delgado+. Don’t do it!
Willingham has power, and hits for decent avg./obp, but he’s turning 34. He will be declining soon, and for what we’d half to give up, it wouldn’t be worth it. If it takes just Spruill/Salcedo, yes. If they want one of our top pitching prospects, no.
October 8th, 20127:13 pm
Heath, also that move would leave us with lots of money still as well. Hanson + 1 prospect for Willingham. We’d be only spending around 4 million to fill our LF rh power bat need. Would have plenty of $ and tradable assets to figure out CF or possibly addressing a top of the rotation arm as many view a need.
Cherry pick player failures that rest with the players themselves for not playing up to capabilities and having player failure after they are signed and ignore the successes of calling up Kimbrel, Venters, Avilan, Gearrin, Simmons, Heyward, Freeman, Medlen, Minor, picking up EOF, Martinez, Durbin, Ross, and anyone else I left out farkin maroons.
October 8th, 20127:14 pm
Hey Ralph….., How’s it goin’? Hope well, hey ya’ll have a good one, selah.
Wilson, in case you didn’t know, this is a blog, a place for fans to voice their opinions. It’s DOB’s blog, not yours, so maybe you need to stop the nonsense.
October 8th, 20127:16 pm
DOB – Could you shed some light on how surgery would affect B/Macs contract options??? — Ralph
In that regard, the timing is good for Braves in that they have the one-year option they can pick up if they don’t want to sign long-term for health concerns and/or because they have Bethancourt coming.
Can pick up the option, then if he needs a few months of recovery he’d be ready for spring, and if needs more and misses part of season, insurance would pay part of salary. Once they see how bad the shoulder is and whether he needs surgery, they can move forward this winter knowing how long he might be out, etc, and plan accordingly. There’s no rush, obviously. Free-agent period doesn’t start for a month and many if not most trades and signings won’t be until around winter meetings in early December, or later.
October 8th, 20127:17 pm
Good interview DOB. Hope FW can put all the pieces together, and make it count.
A heaven-sent Braves New World could put a merciful end to the specious and nauseating Wren/DOB post mortems.
The gift from on high would be a decision that now is the time for Liberty Media to cash in the Braves for maximum returns and tax breaks and focus on their core competencies. The perfect time for a worthy acquirer, such as Arthur Blank, to build upon a small nucleus of affordable position players and a hard core of starters and relievers, plus prospects.
Hands-0n Blank knows what it takes, from the top down, to put a winning, major league organization together in the real world.
A true dynasty of World Series Championships, rather than one of thwarted playoffs, could well be the outcome for Arthur’s adopted city.
October 8th, 20127:18 pm
The Nats did what they had to do to win. It doesn’t matter how you do it.
October 8th, 20127:20 pm
“I feel like this is a more focused offseason. I’m looking forward to it, because I think there’s a narrower focus with what we need. We have a lot of good young players in place. We’ve got to determine what we do it center field, and that kind of couples with leadoff. Center field/leadoff. And then how we replace Chipper. And beyond that, our club’s pretty solid. So it’s a fairly narrow focus.
They are sort of differing totally from what I wanted. I wanted frontline starting pitching and a banger in LF. Seems like they will just be looking for Bourn replacement who can leadoff – Denard Span, Jacoby Ellsbury, etc. We’ll see.
Thanks for the work DOB.
I appreciated all of your work this season. Really made for a fun year. And to think, it’s not too far into the future when your best-of music blog comes out. Just in time for the Holidays. ( :
October 8th, 20127:21 pm
well as Romney said…Hope is not a strategy!
Some major moves have to be made. Otherwise it will be the same old song and dance next year.
October 8th, 20127:22 pm
I can’t believe Uggla is getting such a pass by so many people.
If we had put Prado at 2B and Reed Johnson full time in LF the day we got him from the Cubs, we might be the #1 seed in the playoffs right now. Uggla picked up a little late in the season, but then came up with an 0-fer night against the Cards with a big fat error.
Put Francisco at 3B, Prado at 2B, eat 80% of Uggla’s deal next year, and then use all the money we have to get a CF and an LF. I would not rule out re-signing Bourne. I’m going to research the Leo Martin prospect after submitting this comment.
October 8th, 20127:23 pm
@chippahisGod; have a good one, oh yeah, good points there bud, take care all u passionate Bravo BLOGGSTERS, & The Great Legend,& still #1 Beat writer, Undisputed champ of Beat Writin’, Our DOB!
October 8th, 20127:24 pm
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October 8th, 20127:26 pm
DOB-Thanks for answering my question, I was afraid they might not be able to do anything as for as declining his option with him being hurt, very good answer.
David from Athens, AL
October 8th, 20127:27 pm
Thanks DOB.. Looking forward to a productive hot stove winter!
October 8th, 20127:28 pm
One thing that distiurbed me during that interview was how Wren kept using the word “Replace” Chipper. I think that shows classlessness,and cluelessness on Wren’s part. What he should have said was siomething like “Acquire pieces or players to compensate for the loss of Chippers bat and production when he retires.
I’m not sure what to make of the Braves now. I think they should be competetive next year, but as to exactly what they do, will be a wait and see process
What are they going to do with Ernesto Mejia? Seems like he’s too good to be sitting in AAA. I still can’t believe he didn’t get a cup of coffee this year but we played an injured Freeman.
October 8th, 20127:29 pm
“I think the exciting part for all of us is we’ve got a dynamic young core. We’ve got three young guys that were in that lineup [for the Wild Card game] that have a chance to be All-Star players and have a chance to be leaders of this team for a long time. And the bullpen’s intact, our starting rotation’s intact. There’s a lot of things that are real positive going into next year. And guys are going to get better. We’ve got a very young pitching staff, and we’ve got some dynamic young pitchers that are just on the horizon who have a chance to be good.
Heyward, Freeman, Simmons is a strong core of 23 year olds. Sounds like those three, Prado, Uggla, McCann in the lineup. Hudson, Medlen, Minor, Maholm, and Hanson in the rotation. Kimbrel, O’Flaherty, and Venters in the pen.
I still see Hanson being traded….but we’ll see.
Why would they mess with success? This team is thisclose to winning a World Series. Here. Have this Kool-Aid. You’ll feel better.
October 8th, 20127:31 pm
Braves are always Braves…they didn’t know how to win the great games, they still don’t know how to do it, they probably will never learn how to do it…
Excuses and more excuses…in 1997 they lost to Livan Hernadez because the umpire (je, je, je fans forgot that Maddux always had the wide strike zone in MLB)….then during 11 years they never won a WS, and now in 2012 other umpire is been blamed for a new frustation..
1. Move Prado to 3rd. Wren knows Prado is best in the infield.
2. Do NOT sign McCann. He’s done. He’s going to miss significant time no matter who gets him next year. We could use his salary for so much more good.
3. Sign Josh Hamilton to three years 50 millions, with a team option. He’ll replace McCann’s left-handed bat in the middle of the lineup.
4. Sign Bourn but not for anything over $10 million a year. I know, that means he is gone. Fine. He’s a strikeout machine that wears down at the end of the season. He’s valuable but up to a point.
5. Rebuild the bench. We had too many black holes (Hinske, Wilson). Please find someone to compliment Johnson.
6. Let Maholm walk. I’d like to have a second left-hander of course, but we need to give Delgado or Tehran some burn. Medlen, Hudson, Minor, Hanson, and Delgado or Tehran.
7. When Beachy returns, give him the Medlen treatment by letting him finish out the season in the bullpen. Don’t rush him back into the rotation…instead, get him ready to take Hudson’s slot in 2014.
Frank Wren, you’re welcome.
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