Braves priorities: CF and replacing Chipper

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Dugoutdog

October 8th, 2012
1:58 pm

Trade Uggla for BJ Upton!

Rick C

October 8th, 2012
2:00 pm

There’s no way the Padres are going to make Headley available. Why do you people think that?

Brave New World

October 8th, 2012
2:03 pm

Forget Josh Hamilton – great 32 year old talent with a history of injuries and drug and alcohol abuse. I would rather have Angel Pagan and Shane Victorino for less money combined than what the Yankees or Dodgers will be paying Hamilton. Also, we do not need to drop $20 million per year on Greinke – our pitching is pretty good as it currently stands.

OFF SEASON MOVES

October 8th, 2012
2:04 pm

ok ,… Jones, Lowe, Hinske,Wilson,Diaz, contracts are gone.,….like 35 mdd free :)

time to sign a good outfielder , trade for chase headley , and sign 2 bench players,, and maybe another reliever ……

im not sure if the braves gonna sign Bourn , if not they should go for BJ Upton even if he’s a problem player…he knows how batting that it’s the important thing…

they need to try a deal with the padres for Headley … a good package for the NL RBI champion …

this package could include: Hanson, Francisco and Jurrjens and low prospect for Headley and A-AA prospect

about bench players the braves have : Ross, Johnson, Constanza , Janish and vacant spot…a power hitter it’s the idea

Scott Hairston it’s a good fit , Ibañez it’s a good fit too …

another option it’s sign Nick Swisher and Prado stay in left fielder.,,,

a good RH reliever option could be Joel Peralta or Jason Frasor and LH relievers could be Affeldt or Choate….

........

October 8th, 2012
2:08 pm

i mean move prado to 3b and swisher in LF

rfall

October 8th, 2012
2:17 pm

same old braves! this team needs heart. new manager,new attitude and less .200 hitters. desperately need a right handed bat for outfield

jim

October 8th, 2012
2:19 pm

Constanza is very fast, but noit a particularly good defensive outfielder. In the games he started in CF when Bourn was hurt Reed Johnson would take over in the late innings as a defensive replacement. He has neither the defensive skills nor a high enough OBP to be considered for a full time position. Heyward needs to stay in RF which maximizes his defensive skills and saves some wear and tear for his offense. The only in-house option for CF right now would be Todd Cunningham, but none of us really know what he is capable of providing.

I like the suggestion someone made of trading for Mike Oldt to play 3B, but we would need to include much more than Hanson or Jurrjens. There are two voices (often from the same people) on the blog right now — 1) this is a team of chokers who will always come up short, and 2) this team is one or two (name your favorite off-season acquision) away from winning the WS. I think a more realistic perspective is to say with the departure of Chipper, the decline of McCann, the Uggla question, and Beachy’s unavailability for 1/2 season and then his need to round back into form, that 2013 will be a transition year. Next year’s team will not be as strong as the Nats and Reds and has too many needs to fill to be able to do it all in one year’s time. I hope that Wren begins the process of putting the right pieces on the field with an eye toward bu8ilding the nucleus for 2014.

Mikey

October 8th, 2012
2:21 pm

Chipper Jones First Ballot Hall of Fame: Best offensive 3rd baseman in ML history: In top 3 switch hitter of all time.
ps. genius. Ted Williams won 0 WS titles and has a .200 ws BATTING AVERAGE

Frank Wren

October 8th, 2012
2:34 pm

Good times…ARE YOU NUTS? ..287 IS VERY GOOD WHEN YOU CONSIDER YOU’RE FACING VERY GOOD PITCHERS IN THE PLAYOFFS-admittedly jeter is a definite baller but the lineup he is in has always been better than the braves and he cannot usually be pitched around.

jim

October 8th, 2012
2:37 pm

I marvel at some of these trade suggestions — probably from some of the people who want to fire Wren: Francisco, Hanson, JJ, and a low level prospect for Chase Headly AND a AAA prospect.
Other have some combination of the above plus Uggla to get the likes of Will Myers or Justin Upton, or Nick Markakis. If other GMs would agree to any of these deals, then Wren must not be so dumb as you claim.

Wes

October 8th, 2012
2:45 pm

Jose Constanza batted .250. I hope no one here seriously thinks he can replace Michael Bourn at the top of the lineup.

Larry30

October 8th, 2012
2:47 pm

They have a $12 million team option on McCann with a half million $ buyout. Time to let him go and spend the money elsewhere. Should have traded him after the 2010 season when they could have cleaned up on a trade. But it takes guts to make a move like that. And I was suggesting the trade then and being called an idiot. Do you think the rangers regret the trade they made with the braves a few years ago?

Denny Lemaster

October 8th, 2012
2:50 pm

I’d ship out Hansen in a NY minute. Send him to the AL and say goodbye to him and his stupid walks. They can get a decent bat for him, though not a major bat. I think other teams are smart enough too see he is the best he will ever be. He is fat, out of shape and simply cannot pitch in big situations. As for CF, I think in the long run, giving Bourn $15 million a year for 5 years will be a Lowe sized mistake. He dropped way off when the Braves needed him late in the year. Strikes out way, way too much for a leadoff hitter. With his speed if he puts 75 of those strikeouts in play, he might get on base 25 times. That is a .333 improvement. But his K’s were well over 100 for a leadoff hitter. At his age, Jeter is a better LEADOFF man. I did not say speed, I said leadoff. As for third, Prado can do the job if they can find a decent bat for LF. Another BIG decision they have got to make is McCann. Was this big fall off this year just an injury filled fall or is his age behind the plate going to catch up to him in the next contract. You cannot give him $12-15 million a year for 5 or 6 years and HOPE he stays healthy. Maybe it is time to cast him off in a trade to the AL where he can at least DH and stay in the game.

Larry30

October 8th, 2012
2:54 pm

No one is going to trade for McCann. He doesn’t have a contract. It’s either pay him $12 million for next year or pay him $500,000 to let him go. They waited too late to trade him. He finished terribly last year, his defense has continued to deteriorate, and it has been obvious for 3 years that his future is in the AL. If the braves pick up his option, they’ve lost their minds.

Denny Lemaster

October 8th, 2012
2:58 pm

To all those out there saying trade Uggla to someone, anyone, you’d better be hopeful it is a GM as stupid as the one the Braves currently has. NO team in their right mind is going to take on that massive contract, for little results and massive strikeout totals of Ugly. Nobody! PERIOD! The Braves would have to eat 90% of that contract to have any hope of getting rid of him. He has had basically 1/2 of one good year and 1 and 1/2 bad for the Braves. Well over THREE HUNDRED strikeouts!!!! Man, you’d think he was Nolan Ryan or something with 300 k’s.

Rick C

October 8th, 2012
2:58 pm

Larry30, if they don’t pick up McCann’s option, who should they get to play catcher next year? Ross is not an everyday player, and besides that he is a FA now as well. Bethancourt is not ready for the ML.

gmg

October 8th, 2012
3:12 pm

After McCann’s diagnosis is cleared sign him to a smaller contract. He knows if we let him go his worth to other teams has gone down. I say we sign him to a contract then trade him and Hanson to the Rangers for Mike Olt. The Rangers will be letting Napoli go and need a catcher. This only works if McCann can get healthy, but in the AL the health risk is not as big for the rangers.

BravesFanInNashville

October 8th, 2012
3:14 pm

TomTonClub…..

I agree with everything you said except decline the option on Brian McCann. Instead we should pick up the option and then trade him to get some value for him. An AL team will surely see value in him as he can DH. This would be better than simply declining the option and getting nothing in return.

Dan Uggla's Swing

October 8th, 2012
3:15 pm

We have a solid young core, for now. Just because Chipper stayed here for 19 years doesn’t mean anybody else will be that loyal. Who here is crazy enough to believe that when the Yankee’s come a calling on Heyward/Simmons/Kimbrel/Beachy/Etc, that they are gonna turn them down. The Braves wont be able to afford to keep these guys, I hate it, but I believe its reality. Currency is the new currency of the realm. Free agency will kill this team down the road, it except for Chipper, and for a few years, Maddux/Glavine/Smoltz, it always has.

JoeBravesFan

October 8th, 2012
3:25 pm

If we can’t re-sign Bourn, put Heyward in CF and Constanza in RF…or vice versa. Constanza has proven he can hit at the major league level and we can use his speed in the leadoff position. Personally, I think Uggla needs to go. Put Prado back at 2nd base, then go look for a LFer and a 3rd baseman. I also don’t think the Braves should exercise McCann’s option for next year. Ross has proven that he’s a better starting catcher AND he costs less. McCann is going to cost too much to keep past next season anyway. He’s going to be asking for a lot more than he’s worth. He has trouble throwing runners out at 2nd and his bat is inconsistent. With Christian Bethancourt coming up through the minors, and Ross being a capable starting catcher, McCann is expendable and might be good trade bait as well. This will definitely be an interesting offseason. I really hope to see Uggla and Hanson shipped out.

Larry30

October 8th, 2012
3:28 pm

The braves had a hall of fame 3rd baseman and an all star catcher the past 7 years and made the playoffs twice (if you call this wild card play in farce a playoff). They can’t do much worse without them unless finishing second is the goal coming out of spring training. Why isn’t Ross an acceptable sub for McCann. He represents an immediate defensive improvement. And who knows about Bethancourt? They thought pastornicky was going to be the everyday ss because no one thought Simmons was ready for the majors. All I know is I would rather take that $12 million and look for my offense from someone other than McCann.

chc4

October 8th, 2012
3:32 pm

Bourn really wore down. His K rate is alarming. As good as he was early on, I wouldn’t even consider him at $15 million/yr. Let him go elsewhere.

Larry30

October 8th, 2012
3:33 pm

And do you guys really believe any team is going to trade for an overweight player with a balky shoulder and eye problems if he brings a $12 million contract with him?

mike in la

October 8th, 2012
4:00 pm

How bout uggla, jurrpens, Hanson, and a decent prospect for alfonso soriano? Then move prado back to second and trade Tehran for for David wright…then sign victorino to play cf

TomTomClub

October 8th, 2012
4:36 pm

BravesFanInNashville…..Declining the option on McCann frees up $11.5M in salary relief which can be used towards free agent upgrades and arbitration raises for current players. Therein lays the value of declining the option. What kind of trade return can you realistically expect for McCann? He is overweight, has a bum shoulder, knee tendinitis plus vision issues.

One Big Dummy

October 8th, 2012
4:55 pm

Gotta love the Cardinals radio broadcasters whining about Jon Jay getting a called third strike on a pitch that was barely out of the zone.

Teddy B

October 8th, 2012
5:03 pm

This may turn out to be the end of B-Mac’s run in ATL. Sadly, I can’t see us paying him mega-bucks after having a serious surgery like this. He may be fragile behind the plate from now on, can’t really tell for a good while what kind of effects this surgery will have on him.

I think its time to give Benthancourt a good long look behind the plate. He’s young, cheap, and pretty good last I heard. Pass the torch to the newer, younger guys. Sign Jason Heyward to a deal that buys out his arbitration years asap and save some money there too please. I do NOT want to see him walk. EVER.

Teddy B

October 8th, 2012
5:06 pm

Wow, what is it with David Wright? Does anyone really think we’d pay that much for a 30+ year old fading mediocre player? I hope not! His best years are behind him and now he will start to drop off every year for the next 10 years. He wants a huge contract too, let someone else be the sucker for that one like Miami or L.A. Dodgers!

I hope we can sign Bourn, if not oh well he didn’t exactly light it up the last half of the year. We need to start locking up our young talent who is heading towards arbitration like J-Hey, Freeman, Beachy, Kimbrel, all those guys. Unfortunately we have too many young super stars and I doubt long term we keep them all. I hope we can manage but it will be HARD.

NCFan

October 8th, 2012
5:41 pm

J-Hey in center? J Upton in right? Prado 3rd? Cody Ross in left? Let Uggs know he’s on thin ice. He played better after they threatened him with benching this year. Sign BMac for his one year, see if he straightens out. He’s been one of the best offensive catchers the past several years. Whoever said that Janish was steadier than Simmons needs to be smacked. Maybe slightly better defensively (MAYBE!) but offensively not even close. The reason he keeps gettin injured is that he plays so hard, he will ease up a bit not fighting for his spot anymore. Freeman is a given, obviously. Reed, P-nicky, Janish, and Fransisco on the bench. Get rid of Hinske, Overbay, and Baker.

Rotation- Medlen, Hudson, Minor, Beachy, Maholm (Delgado until Beachy’s back). If Delgado pitches good get rid of Maholm. Keep the pen except for Batista.

My opinion..

NC Fan

October 8th, 2012
5:43 pm

And for God’s sake, get rid of Jurrjens and Hanson.

Eugene

October 8th, 2012
5:52 pm

I think the Braves first priority should be in building upon their existing team chemistry. At this time, it is not clear which player on the current team’s roster (roosters) will fill the void in leadership now that Chipper has officially retired from the game. I believe currently McCann is the best candidate to fill this void.

I believe the Braves need greater flexibility in their line-up both defensively and offensively.Greater flexibility would make the team less predictable. For example, giving Simmons a tryout as their leadoff hitter and occasionally giving Prado the start at shortstop. I think other teams such as St. Louis would take immediate note of such moves and adjust their line-up(s) accordingly.

I also believe that Uggla will have a much better year next year. I am a great Chipper fan. However, if memory serves me correctly, I do not remember Chipper and Uggla playing their best baseball when both of them were in the line-up at the same time, except for relatively short periods of time.

Eugene

October 8th, 2012
5:52 pm

I think the Braves first priority should be in building upon their existing team chemistry. At this time, it is not clear which player on the current team’s roster (roosters) will fill the void in leadership now that Chipper has officially retired from the game. I believe currently McCann is the best candidate to fill this void.

I believe the Braves need greater flexibility in their line-up both defensively and offensively.Greater flexibility would make the team less predictable. For example, giving Simmons a tryout as their leadoff hitter and occasionally giving Prado the start at shortstop. I think other teams such as St. Louis would take immediate note of such moves and adjust their line-up(s) accordingly.

I also believe that Uggla will have a much better year next year. I am a great Chipper fan. However, if memory serves me correctly, I do not remember Chipper and Uggla playing their best baseball when both of them were in the line-up at the same time, except for relatively short periods of time.

Michael

October 8th, 2012
5:52 pm

Re-Sign Bourn+Josh Hamilton and move Prado to third will=Success!!!!!!!

Mike

October 8th, 2012
5:55 pm

Any chance they could trade Hanson for a case of Gatorade?

Rick C

October 8th, 2012
7:01 pm

Larry30, even Ross himself has said that he prefers the backup roll. He gets exposed when he plays everyday. I would rather take the risk with McCann and hope that he can return to form.

I guess you could compare Simmons and Bethancourt to a degree since they both are known more for defense than offense. There were some questions about Simmons offense in the minors, but he improved in that area. Bethancourt took a step backward this year it seems.

duke88

October 8th, 2012
7:19 pm

Keep juan let him play third. Terdo is not far from being ready I don’t think. Really should consider trading ugly, hanson and mccan. Bring up bethencourt to play behind Ross till he is ready to get the fill of the big leagues. Sign another big arm to go with beachy, medlen, minor, and melhom. And huddy. Then u could possibly get rid of malhom. Put Prado on second get a left fielder andthe big re

duke88

October 8th, 2012
7:20 pm

The big thing resign bourn!!

duke88

October 8th, 2012
7:21 pm

All in all u save money and have a great young team!!!

Buddy Landel

October 9th, 2012
10:33 am

Atlanta Braves Braves priorities: CF and replacing Chipper
7:50 pm October 6, 2012, by David O’Brien

The Braves will have a couple of major needs to fill this winter and a good sum of money to throw at those needs with the cash they’ll free up from Chipper Jones retiring and the contract of Derek Lowe finally expiring (along another potential significant salary or two that could be dropped).

General manager Frank Wren said his offseason focus is narrower than it has been in some recent years: Re-sign or replace Michael Bourn in center field, and replace Chipper Jones with either a third baseman or with a left fielder if they move Martin Prado to third base.

“We’ve got to determine what we do it center field, and that kind of couples with leadoff,” he said. “And then how we replace Chipper. And beyond that, our club’s pretty solid.

“I think the exciting part for all of us is we’ve got a dynamic young core. We had three young guys that were in that lineup [Friday] that have a chance to be All-Star players and have a chance to be leaders of this team for a long time. Our bullpen’s intact, our starting rotation’s intact. There’s a lot of things that are real positive going into next year.

“And guys are going to get better. We’ve got a very young pitching staff, and we’ve got some pitchers who are just on the horizon who have a chance to be good. I’m very, very optimistic about where we sit as a franchise, with the thought of adding a couple of key pieces.”

For the first time, Wren revealed Saturday that he contacted Bourn’s agent Scott Boras in the spring about discussing a contract extension. Boras is known for taking almost all of his clients to free agency who are eligible, especially those who are in the last year of their contracts.

Bourn was no exception.

“We made contact with his agent in spring training to start negotiations, and they were not prepared to negotiate at that point, and said they would prefer to wait until after the season,” Wren said. “We made it clear to Michael that we want him back, that we’d love to have him back. We also know there’s a process in place.”

The Braves will have money to spend, but Wren indicated they wouldn’t spend the bulk of it on one player.

“We’re losing one Hall of Fame player, and the salary that goes with a Hall of Fame player,” Wren said. “And we’re going to be looking to replace him. And as we do that, it gives us an opportunity to add another big player. And we’ll see what happens with Michael Bourn. We’d love to keep him and hope we do keep him.

“That being said, there are not a lot of pieces out there in the free-agent market this year that are all that appealing, so we might have to look other places….

“We’re going to be looking for premium players, I don’t think there’s any doubt about that. But a couple of things we’re always mindful of. We’re mindful of, we’re putting a team together. We’re not trying to put a player on this team. That’s our overriding philosophy of putting a good team together – if we think we can add two players that give us more than one player, we’re going to do that.

“So we’re not going to go outrageous salary-wise. We’ve seen that time after time how that can end up, so we’re not going to play that game.”
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October 6th, 2012
7:58 pm
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LinkReport this comment.VP

October 6th, 2012
8:04 pm
Need to resign Bourn & sign a LF.

LinkReport this comment.nybravesfan

October 6th, 2012
8:05 pm
what free agent outfielders are out there excluding Hamilton who is too much of a risk.

LinkReport this comment.phoenix

October 6th, 2012
8:06 pm
Yep, other than that we’re pretty solid. A no-range, scatter-arm, strikeout-prone .220 hitting 2nd baseman, and a broken-down, no defense, worn-out .230 catcher. That’s solid all right.

LinkReport this comment.CGripp

October 6th, 2012
8:16 pm
I think a strong option would be to move Martin to 3rd and get a LF. What options are out there for that move? Also what are the chances that B Mac could be traded and make room for the young catcher in the minors?

LinkReport this comment.Little Enos Burdette

October 6th, 2012
8:23 pm
Let Juan play 3rd, that’s 25 bombs easy

LinkReport this comment.Metro Coach

October 6th, 2012
8:27 pm
Bethancourt’s not ready yet. Plus he was hurt at the end of the season. As for the OF, get used to hearing “Jose Constanza, CF” in the line-up. Somebody will pay Bourn more than the Braves can afford.

LinkReport this comment.DAWG POUND

October 6th, 2012
8:33 pm
Bourn will be gone. He’ll sign for someone in the 15 – 18 mil per year range. No way the Braves pay that.

LinkReport this comment.Robert

October 6th, 2012
8:39 pm
Phoenix: Your strikeout prone second baseman came in third on the Team for RBI’s With out the RBI”s you wouldn’t have been in the race at all. I wish people would learn batting avg. does not win games RBI’s do

LinkReport this comment.Heath

October 6th, 2012
8:47 pm
If not Bourn, Victorino and BJ Upton might be the best of the affordable “premium” talents in the free agent OFers.

LinkReport this comment.Go Chip!

October 6th, 2012
8:49 pm
Sign Scott Rolen for third base. He really produced the second half of the year. Sure, he will have to rest like Chipper, but its not like that wasn’t a problem for us with Martin on the team.

The benefit of signing a veteran is that we can wait until one of our prospects(Salcedo) is ready, or another, younger third basement appears on the market.

Plus, Rolen would piss off Philly phans!

LinkReport this comment.Heath

October 6th, 2012
8:50 pm
For those wondering about trading Uggla and signing a 2B:
2B Free Agents
Jeff Baker
Robinson Cano *
Mike Fontenot
Orlando Hudson *
Maicer Izturis
Kelly Johnson
Adam Kennedy
Jeff Keppinger
Jose Lopez
Freddy Sanchez
Ryan Theriot
*Team Option for next year

LinkReport this comment.Heath

October 6th, 2012
8:54 pm
BTW: What if the Phillies don’t pick up the option for Carlos Ruiz? Would Braves’ fans be happier with him over McCann?

LinkReport this comment.Chop Chop

October 6th, 2012
8:59 pm
Frank Wren has won one playoff game since taking over.

LinkReport this comment.Go Chip!

October 6th, 2012
8:59 pm
Kevin Youkillis is another stop-gap option in addition to Rolen.

I think Juan Fransisco would be awful defensively, and his average would kill us I think.

Ryan Ludwick might be somebody to look into he had a great power year in Cinci. I would like to swap Hinske with Andruw Jones(despite bad finish) as a bench outfielder, and so that perhaps he can retire as a Brave. Or he could possibly win a job as I think inconsistent playing time hurt him. He still has major power.

I prefer Bourn but BJ Upton would bring defense, power, and speed.

LinkReport this comment.tim

October 6th, 2012
9:02 pm
try to get David Wright

LinkReport this comment.Ken Stallings

October 6th, 2012
9:14 pm
The Braves need to either retain Bourn and sign another outfield or third base bat, or let Bourn go and sign two outfield bats and move Prado to third base.

Josh Hamilton is, in my view, a realistic free agent target. I don’t think he wants to re-sign with Texas given the acrimony he had there despite putting up monster numbers year in an year out. He would be an awesome addition to left field. If the Braves could sign him for around $18 million a year over five years, and then sign Bourn for around $11 million over five years, then they could move Prado to third base and be set for a World Series run.

Another option is to see what David Wright’s interest would be in joining Atlanta as a free agent. If the Braves could sign him, and resign Bourn, then leave Prado at left field and the Braves are looking good for post season.

Other options may be cheaper, but not better!

LinkReport this comment.Ken Stallings

October 6th, 2012
9:22 pm
BTW: It is no cinch that a team would pay Bourn even $15 million a year, much less $18 million a year. The teams with the unlimited budgets are few and look at what happened to the Angels and Marlins. I don’t think Boras is going to get the inflated contract that he always insists it will take to get his guy signed. There have been many more instances of a Boras client getting a lot less than the asking price Boras gave the media versus those to got it or more.

Despite the Boras bravado, Boras knows there have been more than just a few of his clients who had to take steep discounts because the teams that really wanted them (and would have signed them for more than they eventually got) tired of Boras trying to inflate the price beyond rational bounds. Boras has burned many clients this way.

The Braves should offer something in the range of five years at $11 million a year and see what happens.

LinkReport this comment.mpimentel

October 6th, 2012
9:25 pm
What about this: sign a sharp shoter with a night visions lens and put him in the lights tower…and with him we will prevent any other call like the last who ruins us!

LinkReport this comment.nybravesfan

October 6th, 2012
9:26 pm
what about the Upton brothers? BJ is a free agent i believe and would fill in perfectly in Centerfield. Justin has been rumored to be on the trading block from AZ for a long time now – those guys would sure up the lineup – especially vs. Lefties – and you move Prado to third.

BJ Upton
Prado
Heyward
J. Upton
Freeman
Uggla
McCann
Simmons
Pitcher

LinkReport this comment.Jimmy

October 6th, 2012
9:26 pm
Need to lock up Martin this offseason. 4 years $32M? No matter what juggling we do the next few years he can play 3B, LF, or 2B.

LinkReport this comment.count_schemula

October 6th, 2012
9:48 pm
Someone out there has to think that Uggla is a “change of scenery” candidate and would not think the remaining 3 years of a deal everyone around here seems to think this is a steal is not too much to take one.

The Red Sox moved Crawford, the Hawks moved Marvin, the Braves need to step up and move Uggla.

Just give him away.

LinkReport this comment.braveslover

October 6th, 2012
9:52 pm
Angel Pagan in center. David Wright at third. Hinske’s gone so Janish takes his place with Walker working with him everyday during the off season on hitting. Could Janish play 3rd or 2nd and put Uggie on the bench when he gets ornery about change again. I like Andleton a lot but think Janish is a steadier player after watching both. It just that Janish couldn’t hit the ocean with an oar.

LinkReport this comment.BravesinTN

October 6th, 2012
9:53 pm
Somebody help me out here and set next year’s rotation for me? I think they should let Hanson go, personally – I really like the guy, want him to be dominant, but he’s just living up to his potential, I think.

LinkReport this comment.BravesinTN

October 6th, 2012
9:54 pm
NOT living up to his potential

LinkReport this comment.Heath

October 6th, 2012
9:54 pm
I’ve seen lots of posts where people are concerned Bourn will end up with the Phillies. I’ve watched a few Phillies’ broadcasts and I’m not all that certain that they would. That team has A LOT of money tied up already and have somebid decisions to make. The Phillies 9 highest paid players will make over $135M… for NINE players. While it’s possible, I don’t see Bourn in Philly. If Texas doesn’t re-sign Hamilton, Bourn could end up there…he’s from Texas afer all.

LinkReport this comment.BravesFanInNashville

October 6th, 2012
9:58 pm
Bourn will not get $15-18 Million. No way. He’s going to top out at $10-12 Million at best. Even then he’s not worth it. He strikes out too much and his OBP is not good enough to command franchise player money. Remember THIS was his salary drive year where he had the most incentive to play for a contract. What happens AFTER he gets the money. Will we see a decline in a speed player who will be over 30?

I think we can get a young prospect to replace his batting average and OBP for league minimum or a younger player that we pay $3-5 Million. I’d rather see that and sign a legit LF or 3B with the money we save from Chippers retirement. Micheal Bourn is a good player but you could argue he might not have even been worth the money the Braves paid him THIS year much less a big free agent raise. Time to say good bye and build a team with an eye on every position we need to fix.

LinkReport this comment.Heath

October 6th, 2012
10:05 pm
It would cost… but I’d like to see us trade for Fowler to play CF if we don’t re-sign Bourn. The Rockies can afford to part with an OFer.

LinkReport this comment.Jake

October 6th, 2012
10:09 pm
Trade Uggla a/s/a/p, send McCann to the AL where he can DH and rest his overweight self, find a sucker to take Hanson off our hands. That’s a start. Now, about all those strikeouts, poor RISP averages, weak fundamentals (anybody besides Ross know how to bunt?) and pitchers who can’t field their position … hmm, I’ll get back to you later.

LinkReport this comment.BravesFanInNashville

October 6th, 2012
10:09 pm
BravesinTN.

Next years rotation. Medlin, Hudson, Minor, Maholm, and Delgado/Teheran until Beachy comes back. Then whoever’s pitching in the 4 and 5 spots of the rotation that is not doing well will be gone. We could possibly trade Maholm at the deadline to a team that needs a lefty when Beachy is back..

Beachy, Medlin and Minor could anchor this staff for years and then when Delgado, Teheran and Gilmartin come on we could be in really good shape. In the meantime Hudson could be a stabilizer for 2 more years.

LinkReport this comment.Jake

October 6th, 2012
10:09 pm
Trade Uggla a/s/a/p, send McCann to the AL where he can DH and rest his overweight self, find a sucker to take Hanson off our hands. That’s a start. Now, about all those strikeouts, poor RISP averages, weak fundamentals (anybody besides Ross know how to bunt?) and pitchers who can’t field their position … hmm, I’ll get back to you later.

LinkReport this comment.Bravefaninok

October 6th, 2012
10:16 pm
Heath

October 6th, 2012
10:05 pm

It would cost… but I’d like to see us trade for Fowler to play CF if we don’t re-sign Bourn. The Rockies can afford to part with an OFer.

Wonder if Tommy can pitch in coors???

LinkReport this comment.Heath

October 6th, 2012
10:18 pm
I’ve always liked McCann…but just like when we had Javy Lopez, I’ve not liked having to rely on a catcher for offense sinse they miss between 30-50 games. I won’t be upset if McCann is back next year, but I won’t be totally upset either, provided that we get another adequate guy to split time with Ross and use the money to drastically upgrade our offense.

LinkReport this comment.ronaldh

October 6th, 2012
10:24 pm
Here’s what I’d like to see:
1. Fire the man who signed Lowe to that big contract that just expired.
2. Fire the man who made Uggla the highest paid second baseman in mlb and, therefore, the most overpaid player in mlb.
3. Fire the man who signed kamakazi to the money he was paid.
4. Fire the man who hired the man who called for a safety squeeze with 1 out and the pitcher due up next when you are one run down.
I say that it is way way past time to hold frank, the bird, wren accountable for throwing good money at bad players.

LinkReport this comment.ronaldh

October 6th, 2012
10:24 pm
Here’s what I’d like to see:
1. Fire the man who signed Lowe to that big contract that just expired.
2. Fire the man who made Uggla the highest paid second baseman in mlb and, therefore, the most overpaid player in mlb.
3. Fire the man who signed kamakazi to the money he was paid.
4. Fire the man who hired the man who called for a safety squeeze with 1 out and the pitcher due up next when you are one run down.
I say that it is way way past time to hold frank, the bird, wren accountable for throwing good money at bad players.

LinkReport this comment.ronaldh

October 6th, 2012
10:24 pm
Here’s what I’d like to see:
1. Fire the man who signed Lowe to that big contract that just expired.
2. Fire the man who made Uggla the highest paid second baseman in mlb and, therefore, the most overpaid player in mlb.
3. Fire the man who signed kamakazi to the money he was paid.
4. Fire the man who hired the man who called for a safety squeeze with 1 out and the pitcher due up next when you are one run down.
I say that it is way way past time to hold frank, the bird, wren accountable for throwing good money at bad players.

LinkReport this comment.ronaldh

October 6th, 2012
10:24 pm
Here’s what I’d like to see:
1. Fire the man who signed Lowe to that big contract that just expired.
2. Fire the man who made Uggla the highest paid second baseman in mlb and, therefore, the most overpaid player in mlb.
3. Fire the man who signed kamakazi to the money he was paid.
4. Fire the man who hired the man who called for a safety squeeze with 1 out and the pitcher due up next when you are one run down.
I say that it is way way past time to hold frank, the bird, wren accountable for throwing good money at bad players.

LinkReport this comment.ronaldh

October 6th, 2012
10:24 pm
Here’s what I’d like to see:
1. Fire the man who signed Lowe to that big contract that just expired.
2. Fire the man who made Uggla the highest paid second baseman in mlb and, therefore, the most overpaid player in mlb.
3. Fire the man who signed kamakazi to the money he was paid.
4. Fire the man who hired the man who called for a safety squeeze with 1 out and the pitcher due up next when you are one run down.
I say that it is way way past time to hold frank, the bird, wren accountable for throwing good money at bad players.

LinkReport this comment.ronaldh

October 6th, 2012
10:24 pm
Here’s what I’d like to see:
1. Fire the man who signed Lowe to that big contract that just expired.
2. Fire the man who made Uggla the highest paid second baseman in mlb and, therefore, the most overpaid player in mlb.
3. Fire the man who signed kamakazi to the money he was paid.
4. Fire the man who hired the man who called for a safety squeeze with 1 out and the pitcher due up next when you are one run down.
I say that it is way way past time to hold frank, the bird, wren accountable for throwing good money at bad players.

LinkReport this comment.Heath

October 6th, 2012
10:24 pm
Bravesfanikok -

I’d be ecstatic if we could get Fowler by using Hanson and someone else.

LinkReport this comment.ronaldh

October 6th, 2012
10:26 pm
I’d trade Hanson while you can. His arm is about gone. While we’re at it I’d trade uggla, if you could get anyone to take his ridiculous contract.

LinkReport this comment.Heath

October 6th, 2012
10:34 pm
ronaldh -

I’m obviously not in charge…but I definitely would use Hanson in trades this offseason. He still has some value for teams that need pitching–I think more value for other teams than the Braves.

LinkReport this comment.Playoffs!!!

October 6th, 2012
10:50 pm
here’s what I’d like to see: Someone posting a comment only one time

LinkReport this comment.Scottbravesfan

October 6th, 2012
10:56 pm
Justin Upton would be perfect and for some reason Arizona is willing to trade him. Dexter Fowler or Bj Upton would be great for center. Let Bourn walk he was horrible in the second half and his skills are speed based and those will diminish quickly once he is in his 30s.

LinkReport this comment.Scottbravesfan

October 6th, 2012
10:56 pm
Justin Upton would be perfect and for some reason Arizona is willing to trade him. Dexter Fowler or Bj Upton would be great for center. Let Bourn walk he was horrible in the second half and his skills are speed based and those will diminish quickly once he is in his 30s.

LinkReport this comment.PlayingWren

October 6th, 2012
11:06 pm
I don’t know about Fowler. He only hit .262 away from Coors, OPSing .720. Also, he’s only OPSed .561 at Turner. Given, 15 ABs is a small sample size, but it isn’t too promising. Also, neither BJ nor Justin Upton get on often enough to hit leadoff in my opinion, and I’m beginning to look forward to seeing Heyward and Freeman hitting 3/4 in either order. However, I’d be all for trading Hanson for Justin Upton and batting Upton 4 or 5. However, if we have an understanding that we’re getting BJ for his defense/speed when he’s on the bases and NOT to be really counted on as a leadoff man, then sure. Go for it.

LinkReport this comment.Heath

October 6th, 2012
11:10 pm
Scottbravesfan -

Justin Upton, yes. BJ Upton, no.

LinkReport this comment.Heath

October 6th, 2012
11:17 pm
PlayingWren -

Fowler would give the Braves approximately the same defense and probably a slightly higher OBP than Bourn (OBP more important for lead-off mand). The best part?…he’s A LOT cheaper and won’t be a free agent until 2016. If the Braves were going to spend the money on BJ Upton…they should go ahead and spend it on Bourn because the Braves do not need BJ Upton AND Dan Uggla in the same lineup.

LinkReport this comment.anti-negative guy

October 6th, 2012
11:25 pm
Here’s what I’d like to see:
Fire the ignorant A-hole that wants to fire Wren

LinkReport this comment.Crank My Wren

October 6th, 2012
11:27 pm
Uggla, Teheran for Justin Upton?

LinkReport this comment.Crank My Wren

October 6th, 2012
11:31 pm
Fredi is in over his head. He has no business managing in the major leagues. Talk about being extremely lucky..

I would love to have a manager who knows what it is to win like Francona..too late for that though.

LinkReport this comment.Heath

October 6th, 2012
11:38 pm
What do the Phillies, Red Sox, Angels, Marlins, Brewers, White Sox, Dodgers, Twins, Mets, and Cubs have in common?…

LinkReport this comment.Heath

October 6th, 2012
11:42 pm
…These are teams that had higher 2012 payrolls (and for some considerably higher payrolls) than the Braves that DID NOT make the playoffs. The Fredi and Frank may not be perfect, but they aren’t doing that poorly. Let’s not over-react.

LinkReport this comment.Zac in Tempe

October 6th, 2012
11:51 pm
Lock up Kimbrel, Medlen, Heyward, Prado, McCann, and Freeman. If not with contracts this winter then set aside the money for later. I prefer to Constanza and Francisco to another big contract that’s gonna blow up in our faces.

LinkReport this comment.DaveinNEPA

October 6th, 2012
11:52 pm
IMO it would be foolishness to pick up McCann’s 13mil option. Either let him go elsewhere or negotiate the option to about half that money. With his shoulder/eyes/excess suet/apparent diminishing skills hes not worth 13mil.

I would also look into signing Victorino to a 3 yr contract to play CF. Although he had a down year, he can hit leadoff, switch hits, has won a couple of GGs and would come far cheaper than Bourn.

LinkReport this comment.Backdoor Slider

October 7th, 2012
12:00 am
THE PRIORITY

What’s the number one priority for the Braves this offseason? Hiring a truly competent manager!

LinkReport this comment.Heisenberg

October 7th, 2012
1:02 am
I have not been much of a proponent of adding BJ Upton, but I must admit the concept of having both Upton brothers could work. Having his brother on the same team could help BJ with some of the maturity issues that have plagued him. Or it could totally blow up. But my initial reaction is it is worth kicking the tires on.

LinkReport this comment.JamesH

October 7th, 2012
1:54 am
I think Justin Upton should be Braves top target and stick him in LF. it would take a lot to get him and D-Backs don’t seem to need pitching so not sure who we would have to give up but Im sure Wren could think of something. then either resign Bourn which personally not a big fan off he strikes out to much for a lead off guy with little power.Not resigning Bourn though leaves a hole in CF which could be filled with BJ Upton.Yes BJ isnt the star Justin is but being out of Tampa and on the same team as his brother could drive BJ to get better.If we cant land Justin then I say go for Chase Headley for 3rd then keep Prado in left then focus on a CF not sure who dont really want BJ Upton without his brother to go with him.

LinkReport this comment.a fan

October 7th, 2012
2:06 am
Backdoor, you moron, Fredi won 94 games that’s more then Charlie Manuel or,Mike Scocia, who are considered two of the best.

LinkReport this comment.Nokahomas Wigwam

October 7th, 2012
3:09 am
Here’s what you would get for Uggla: Soriano/Jason Bay. Bad players and huge contacts can only be traded for the bad players and bad contracts. Braves need a stud in the cleanup hole as they truly haven’t had one all year or really any since Sheffield that I can remember.

Note to the programmers: Do not allow duplicate posts for the same user. Mmmkay?

LinkReport this comment.Bamaboy

October 7th, 2012
3:20 am
I think we should bring Chipper back for season number 20!

LinkReport this comment.Bamaboy

October 7th, 2012
3:20 am
I think we should bring Chipper back for season number 20!

LinkReport this comment.Ole Battle Axe

October 7th, 2012
3:30 am
Why don’t we give the bat boys a shot at playing CF or 3B before we do any more signings/trades. What’s the worst that could happen?

LinkReport this comment.Puck

October 7th, 2012
4:19 am
4. Fire the man who hired the man who called for a safety squeeze with 1 out and the pitcher due up next when you are one run down

Did you notice how the first thing the announcers said after Simmons put down the bunt was that he made a rookie mistake. It was a very stupid play.

I always thought the Braves would make the playoffs and picked them to win over 90 games. They have a lot of talent and a no brainer team for any manager – but I could never get that up about it because I knew when the playoffs hit, Fredi would get involved and it would bring disaster sooner or later. I think he has learned and made some good moves during the season – the Braves will keep him cause he can guide a no brainer team to a winning season – but I just don’t see him making the right move under pressure in the big games.

Too bad really.

LinkReport this comment.Chris

October 7th, 2012
6:32 am
Whoever thinks you can simply replace Bourn is idiotic. He had 171 hits, 40+ steals, and covered CF almost every day this season. He’s one of the few guys in the game that you truly do not want to see leading off an inning as an opposing pitcher. He worked counts effectively almost every AB and really set the pace for the offense all season. If he walks in the offseason, his presence will be missed in 2013. And any Braves fan that wishes for it will regret it circa next August when ATL is hovering around .500 because Constanza is hitting lead off.

LinkReport this comment.Darryl Blackberry

October 7th, 2012
6:53 am
Don’t re-sign Bourn. Get a Dexter Fowler or an Emilio Bonifacio; they’ll work for half of what Bourn makes.

LinkReport this comment.MikeY

October 7th, 2012
7:07 am
Chipper, Bourn, Ross, Hinske, Diaz, Wilson, Sheets, Johnson, Overbay, Baker, Bautista, Moylan, and Durbin are free agents or retiring, thus not on the 2013 roster unless re-signed. I hope we re-sign Ross, Johnson, Moylan, Baker, and Durbin. Bourn may be too expensive, I could see a Constanza/Johnson platoon in CF, freeing up a lot of cash for a LF or 3B. Key decisions: Options on McCann, Hudson, Maholm. I think the decision on these is pretty sson after the World Series. McCann’s is $12M w/ a $500K buy-out; Hudson’s is $9M w/ a $1M buy-out; Maholm’s is $6.5M w/ a $500K buy-out. Hudson and Maholm seem like no-brainers. A lot depends on McCann’s shoulder diagnosis.

The other big decisions seem to revolve around Hanson and Juurgens. Jurrgens made $5.5M in 2012 and will be in his 3rd year of arbitration in 2013. I think he will be traded, but we will not get much in return. Hanson will be in his first year of arbitration in 2013, look for a salary of around $2.5M to $3M. I think he is also trade bait. The Braves should have starting pitching depth (Hudson, Medlen, Minor, Maholm, Delgado, Teheran, Beachy (midyear)).

It will be an interesting off-season. The Braves look to have a lot of cash to spend, but not enough to sign replacements for their many free-agent primary back-ups/relievers AND Bourn AND a big bat for 3B or LF.

LinkReport this comment.Ron

October 7th, 2012
7:29 am
Trade Uggla for the best offer, used popcorn bag or what ever. Move Prado to second. Get a center fielder who can hit leadoff.

LinkReport this comment.BRAVES FAN 1957

October 7th, 2012
7:50 am
I think the Braves shoiuld hire Chipper to be their B/C, get rid of FG, Wren get a new P/C. And definitely trade Uggla, Hanson, McCann, Hinski..can’t even hit his weight,Overbay,Diaz. This would free up some good money for the Bravo’s….Enough said!!!!

LinkReport this comment.moosedog

October 7th, 2012
7:55 am
keep bourne , put constanza in left, get david wright for third, get rid of uggla, prado at second…leave mccann alone, he will bounce back.

LinkReport this comment.moosedog

October 7th, 2012
8:20 am
1.bourne 2.constanza 3.prado 4.heyward 5. freeman 6.wright 7.mccann/ross 8.simmons……..simmons and constanza could both hit 8….speed at top and bottom of lineup.

LinkReport this comment.Jake

October 7th, 2012
9:14 am
Frank Wren is gonna do something boring like trade for Denard Span to replace Bourne. Declining Mac’s option would give Braves payroll flexibility.

LinkReport this comment.eddie57

October 7th, 2012
9:27 am
Bourne, either Upton or any Rockie outfielder would all be overpaid under-performers for the Braves. Tampa’s Upton has been wildly inconsistent for a good manager, imagine him with Fredi the Freeloader. Arizona’s Upton has hit in a bandbox his whole career and would have even worse numbers for Atlanta. After a Bourne’s contract year of declining numbers OB, walks and steals with outrageous strikeout numbers thrown in Boreass (sic) will still want more years and way too much money for him. Trade Hanson if you can and try for a leftfielder who can stopgap for a couple of years.

LinkReport this comment.MtDEWD

October 7th, 2012
9:35 am
Not really seeing a lot of good suggestions here.

1. Trade McCann: Horrible idea. A bad McCann is still a top five offensive catcher.
2. David Wright, Josh Hamilton? Come on. Did no one read the part about spending outrageous money on one player? Hamilton will get a stupid deal that whatever team signs him is guaranteed to lose on. Wright is staying in New York.
3. Bourn tanked at the end of the season. I think 15-18 million is out of his reach now.
4. Barring a Jayson Werth like deal, Nick Swisher is the way to go for an outfielder, regardless of whether or not they resign Bourn.
5. If bourn departs they will be seeking a leadoff type hitter. Dexter Fowley is the answer there.
6. RBI’s dont win games. OBP wins games.

Ideal lineup for next year: Bourn CF, Prado 3B, Heyward RF, Swisher LF, Freeman 1B, McCann C, Uggla 2B, Simmons SS

LinkReport this comment.dewey

October 7th, 2012
10:17 am
bourne needs to go, disappeared down the stretch the last 2 years and everybody knows it. send pastronicky to winter ball and have him play centerfield everyday and give him a shot at center/leadoff in spring. uggla needs to go no matter what the cost. move prado to second. his bat is not suited for left field or third base. much as I hate to say it, somethings got to be done with mccann. banged up last 2 years and production is falling way off. so that would mean we would need left fielder, third baseman and catcher.

LinkReport this comment.Nova Scotia Steve

October 7th, 2012
10:27 am
Everyone is so quick to throw Uggla under a bus – most power hitters have low averages and they strike out a lot. It’s a fact of life.

So what if Uggla bounces back and hit 30 + HR’s next season and hits .240. Frankly, I don’t care. We are paying him to hit HR’s.

He’ll bounce back. I guarntee it happening. Adam Dunn is a prime example of what can happen from 2011 to 2012.

On our sitation: Sign Bourn, Victorino for LF and Prado at 3B. Retain Reed Johnson and give Jose Constanza a chance of the bench. Keep Janish as back-up SS and 2B.

Juan Francisco for back-up 3B and a couple of BP pieces to round out the pen.

Okay, ready for Spring Training. Later.

LinkReport this comment.Nova Scotia Steve

October 7th, 2012
10:30 am
I just can’t see Swisher leaving New York. He loves it in NYC.

On the flip side, I can’t see the Yankees letting him go to another team.

LinkReport this comment.Atlanta Braves Links of the Day For October 7, 2012 | Atlanta Braves Dugout Online | Atlanta Braves Blog

October 7th, 2012
10:39 am
[...] Braves priorities: CF and replacing Chipper [...]

LinkReport this comment.Tumbledown

October 7th, 2012
10:43 am
The real priority is for the whole Braves organization to get some type of counseling and figure out how to execute in the postseason. I know that sort of counseling does not exist, but this never ending period of post season failure is just too much.

LinkReport this comment.mocam

October 7th, 2012
10:59 am
get swisher and release bourn

LinkReport this comment.mocam

October 7th, 2012
11:02 am
if we pay bourn for 15-18 it is an overpayment for a player like him

LinkReport this comment.MikeY

October 7th, 2012
11:04 am
CBSSports.com says, based upon statistics, Uggla was the 8th-best 2B in MLB last year:

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/playerrankings/positional/regularseason/2B

I agree, he was not worth $13M, but he walked a lot, still scored 86 runs (4th-best on the team), and tied with Bourn for 3rd-best OBP on the team. I’d say he was, at best, average defensively, but he seems to always hustle.

I do not see moving Uggla. Hanson and Juurgens, I see moving on, and there are teams that will trade for them. We might even package them and pick up a starting 3B or LF, for a team needing SP and willing to take a bit of a chance that they can turn them around.

LinkReport this comment.steve

October 7th, 2012
11:04 am
Bourne is worth about 8 mil. a year, his average has dropped in the 2nd half of the season 2 years in a row, he strikes out a lot for a leadoff hitter.

LinkReport this comment.MikeY

October 7th, 2012
11:05 am
when I say last year, I mean 2012…I’m already mentally in the 2012 season.

LinkReport this comment.Mikey

October 7th, 2012
11:05 am
Maybe we can get joint counciling discount and invite the Texas Rangers who seem to have the same post season problem albeit with a much higher payroll.

LinkReport this comment.MikeY

October 7th, 2012
11:05 am
I measn I am already mentally in the 2013 season. Need more coffee.

LinkReport this comment.NW Florida Fan

October 7th, 2012
11:31 am
My thoughts…

Prado is at 3rd base. The best, mature infield glove man is playing left field. Makes no sense.

McCann will be okay. He played too long, hurt. Let him rest and heal, and he’ll be fine in the spring.

Throw a moderate pile of money and 3 years at Bourn, but don’t expect him to take it. He’ll be 30 when spring training starts. If you’re paying a guy to patrol center field and steal bases, don’t expect him to do it when he’s 35.

Starters are Hudson, Medlen, Minor, Maholm, and Delgado. Beachy will be back after the All-star break. Keep the pen intact.

Let Hanson go. Not worth the millions he’d get in arbitration (his win and K numbers are reasonably high.)

Uggla is not tragic, but is not doing what we wanted him to do – bat clean-up, clear the bases, and scare the heck out of opposing pitchers. His OBP is distorted by the fact that he bats so low in the order. Pitchers don’t pitch to him so they can get to the SS or pitcher. Plus, he’s no threat to steal or score from 1st on a single. So, he gets a BB. Personally, I’d prefer Omar, who – last time I checked – is still playing baseball.

So, you’ve got a decent, young infield that should get you through the next 3 years of Uggla’s contract: Freeman, Uggla, Simmons, Prado, McCann. Money needs to be spent on a left fielder and center fielder, preferably at least one with power.

So – if Heyward and Freeman continue to improve, if Uggla and Mac wake-up, and if Frank can hire some decent outfielders, the Braves could be a force for the next 2 or 3 years.

LinkReport this comment.banned poster

October 7th, 2012
11:38 am
Justin Upton?? Are you people serious? Yeah there is a legit reason why Zona is looking to dump him. He has a bad shoulder and he has an attitude problem. Not what the Braves need. And the same for BJ Upton. He played well this year so he can get a contract. Otherwise, he has been a headcase too. I’d rather take my chances with Hamilton and having to hire someone to look after him.

LinkReport this comment.banned poster

October 7th, 2012
11:40 am
And Paul Maholm brought back? Did you not watch his starts in August and most of September? Braves would be better served to cut ties with him. Let him go suck on someone else’s dime
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a 3.5 ERA and a 1.19 WHIP is horrible for a #4 starter?????

Buddy Landel

October 9th, 2012
10:34 am

How’d that^^^^happen?

Rob

October 9th, 2012
10:45 am

What the braves need are leaders as well as a third basesman, or left fielder depending on who we sign. David wright type would be perfect. Anytime you can help your team and take away from a rival. We also should go see if we could resign Omar infante. Let’s get him back where he belongs, in a braves uniform. We should apologize to him for trading him in the first place. This would fill our two biggest needs. Sign Bourne if you can. If you can’t, let him walk and let’s go to option b and find us a cheaper cf alternative. The key is to sign a leader. Chipper retiring will leave a huge void. I’m sorry but Hudson can not go talk to a struggling rookie about his batting issues . He can talk to a pitcher but not an everyday ball player. Maybe Mac will become our elder statesman.

TB

October 9th, 2012
11:09 am

Bring in Wright to replace Chipper at 3rd, move Prado back to 2nd & trade Uggla & Teheran for a monster outfielder with a Johnson/Costanza platoon in center.

Homer of A-town sports

October 9th, 2012
11:12 am

No need to waste 12 mil on Bmac. No telling how he is going to recover. Beth, la rosa, and gattis can do the job as a backup. Sign Ross. Upton not wanted in Atlanta. He is bad news. Braves need to find a way to get BEN REVERE. HE IS THE ANSWER.

Smart jay

October 9th, 2012
11:20 am

As usual the dumbest baseball fans in the world live here. Probably the people throwing bottles on Friday.

Homer of A-town sports

October 9th, 2012
11:46 am

Braves fans don’t take no crap anymore. Braves have Terdoslavich who could step in at 3rd base. Minus Bourn contract and 500,000 to buy out Bmac contract. Braves can make a real play for Ben Revere.

Glen

October 9th, 2012
1:20 pm

Bourn is a really good player, but the Braves would be foolish to over pay and/or over commit with a long contract. He is great defensively. On the downside he strikes out a lot for a leadoff hitter, he faded badly down the stretch, and he’s turns 30 in December. Imagine giving him a 5 year deal, and regretting it in years 3, 4, & 5. I imagine we’ll see a lot of Constanza, and maybe that’s not a bad thing.

carprog

October 9th, 2012
1:57 pm

How about this: convert Francisco to right or left field, Prado goes to third of course & convert one of the young guys like Pastornicky et al to play second, surely SSes can play 2B. then you’ve got a long term 3B, SS, 2B, 1B combo of young guys. KEEP Janish as insurance & instructor & job motivation. Let Hinske go & trade Uggla if possible.

carprog

October 9th, 2012
2:51 pm

Also keep Reed Johnson for his versatility. Don’t believe Overbay produced enough to be retained although Braves need a backup 1B & also another young backup catcher. Bourn may surprise everybody & want to stay with the Braves, he knows what he has with them & the team chemistry & that they SHOULD be a “contenda”. Will he be content as the best player on a second tier team? Of course a lot depends on what happens with him. Phillies may not contend again next year.

jboney

October 9th, 2012
5:26 pm

Enter your comments here

jboney

October 9th, 2012
5:27 pm

Let Bourn go.. Boras is going to have someone over pay for him.. I don’t want it to be us.. How about the home town kid Dexter Fowler in center? Could probably get him relatively cheap.

Bobby Cerasuolo

October 9th, 2012
5:29 pm

Freeman Delgado/Tehran to Angels for Trumbo and Hank Conger

Uggla and Lipka to Seattle for Figgins and Player to be named later

Move McCann to 3rd Prado back to 2nd and Figgins to Leftfield

Pastornicky Gilmartin and Salcedo to Marlins Bonifacio and Greg Dobbs

Teach Hanson how to throw an out pitch like a circle change or splitter to go along with that curve

Lineup for 2013

Figgins LF
Bonifacio CF
Prado 2nd
Heyward RF
Trumbo 1st
McCann 3rd
Simmons SS
Conger/Bethancourt/Ross Catcher

Carl Farvman

October 9th, 2012
7:14 pm

Reading this stuff is just plain crazy. People are spouting off names and salaries. Gosh, how useless.

tasman

October 9th, 2012
10:49 pm

What about letting Durango compete for cf? He looked great in st, is a great base stealer has a better arm than Constanza and bats from either side.

Jo

October 10th, 2012
4:51 am

I loved Chipper but his production, very poor at the end of the season, was just a little above mediocre with little power. I am sure we can replace that with someone who can hit at least 275 with good power 25 homers withe budget we have. we need more homers and rbi production. hopefully this will make people to pitch to Uggla and get him hitting for more than .220.

Ed Frymyer

October 10th, 2012
10:18 am

As a lifelong Braves fan. I think we should trade Uggla and Hanson. Do not pickup option
on McCain start Ross. Move Prado to second Francisco at third sign Hamilton to play left.Resign Bourn to three yr ten million yr contract.
Line up
Bourn
Prado
Heyward
Hamilton
Freeman

Gremlins

October 10th, 2012
11:59 am

Move janish to 3rd and GET HIM A HITTING COACH

bravesfan

October 10th, 2012
2:25 pm

Resign Bourn and pick up Josh Hamilton’s slumping free agent salary for the outfield and move Prado to 3rd.

Here is what you need to do....

October 10th, 2012
3:21 pm

Here is what opening day 2013 roster should look like:

1. B.J. Upton or Shane Victorino, CF (may end up with Constanza/Reed Johnson platoon)
2. Martin Prado, 2B
3. Freddie Freeman, 1B
4. David Wright, 3B (I think Mets have the option on him for 2013 ?) may not work
5. Jason Heyward, RF
6. David Ross, C (re-sign him and let McCann walk. Betancourt can back up)
7. Evan Gattis, LF (shocker, I know but he can play 3B, LF and catch – and best of all – he’s cheap, just like the Braves) – (still not sure on Josh Hamilton – I’m affraid he’s another Dan Uggla waiting to happen)
8. Andrelton Simmons, SS
9. Medlen, Hudson, Minor, Maholm and Gilmartin (Beachy when he’s ready)

Bench: Betancourt, Constanza, Diaz, Reed Johson (re-sign!) Janish and start working in Mejia from AAA at OF. Freeman is way too good to me moved off of 1B.

Pen: Kimbrel, O’Flaherty, Venters, Aussie Pete, Christhian Martinez and consider Durbin or similar type low WHIP RH reliever.

Notice – no Uggla, no Bourn (can’t afford him) and no McCann. Get guys to put the ball in play, and start getting this team to be more run creating, small-ball players who can scratch accross 3-4 runs a game. Consistency- get on base, move over, get it. Basic. The 3 mentioned above are all stubborn, pull or high strikeout guys who are “too cool” to hit the ball the other way for a hit.

single white dove

October 10th, 2012
4:07 pm

Teddy B

October 8th, 2012
5:06 pm
Wow, what is it with David Wright? Does anyone really think we’d pay that much for a 30+ year old fading mediocre player?

On a braves vs mets series, the commentators compared jones with wright, saying they were almost the same in offense and defense…

Here is what you need to do....

October 10th, 2012
4:31 pm

People are forgetting we have a TON of ARB 1, 2 and 3 eligible players that will eat up cash quick. We need to lock up Heyward, Freeman, Kimbrel and Prado now. That will likely take Chipper’s money and perhaps a little more, like a total of $15mm. Hanson is arb eligible too, but I think he is AL bound, like McCann. Not sure if Braves will try to resign him or not. Arb would likley benefit Braves based on his down year. They may opt to do so – nevertheless, he will get $6mm range and wash our JJ’s money.

So, we re-up Hudson ($9mm), buy out McCann ($500k) and let him go. He is done. Catcher than is breakdown more than Tow-Mater.

We have this left to spend – Bourn’s ($6.84mm), JJ ($5.5mm – gone if you keep Hanson) Lowe’s ($10mm), McCann ($11.5mm) – That’s about $34mm to spend – and with FA market, not a whole lot to buy.

Give David Wright $15mm. Trade Uggla to MIN – eat half his salary – we’ve got that process down. Now we’ve got $9mm a year in David Wright. and $25mm left to spend on LF/CF and bench.

I really lean towards B.J. Upton and Shane Victorino. SV will be cheaper – can still cover the ground, switch hit and run. BJ has more power and raw speed but not a prototypical lead-off guy.

I keep hearing Greinke – that may be an option too.

Pitching & defense win championships.

Let’s trot this line-up out there and see what happens:

1. Bourn
2. Baker
3. Diaz
4. Uggla
5. Overbay
6. McCann
7. Francisco
8. Baker
9. Lowe or Kawakami

Here is what you need to do....

October 10th, 2012
4:33 pm

Pastoricky batting 8. my bad. For the record, a Braves insider confirmed that Medlen was never going to ammount to anything but middle relief. Thank God that has worked out differently.

jj

October 10th, 2012
6:12 pm

@ 4:07—Wright and Bourn are the same age ..

jj

October 10th, 2012
6:14 pm

Diaz is free agent..let someone else have that problem.

jj

October 10th, 2012
6:39 pm

Swisher wants 5 year 100,000,000..Good Luck..

Like Wren said trades may be best way to go. Padres rumor they may deal Chase Headley. That might work out. Also J Upton maybe traded but would be high. Royals also looking for pitching–Hanson for one of there good out fielders. Just throwing something out there.
I’m glad Wren is keeping all the coaches..great job.

pat

October 11th, 2012
10:03 am

I hope bud selig dies soon.

Tradem or Playem

October 19th, 2012
11:01 am

Simple…………………trade Hanson and Teheran to K.C. for Wil Myers and put him in left and move Prado to 3rd!

Tradem or Playem

October 19th, 2012
11:03 am

also…………………..sign Angel Pagan to be leadoff hitter and centerfielder!

ron

October 20th, 2012
4:07 pm

A-Roid is available for Huddie.

Gene

October 23rd, 2012
8:26 pm

Juan Francisco…give him a chance at third, then the LF (PRADO) and 3B positions may not be an issue…all Wren has to worry about then is CF

White

October 31st, 2012
4:24 pm

PRADO for third bar, no brainier!!!!!

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