I can’t think of a better SS in all of baseball, defensively. But I’m guessing he didn’t play enough games to get enough attention.
There are a lot of excellent defensive SS’s in all of baseball. But we sure have one of the best I’ve seen in sometime. And to be able to pick up Janish to cover for him during his injury rehab was remarkable.
Defense and pitching wins games.
Who would be the best possible defensive CF’er we could find this winter?? Bourjos? Gutierrez? Rasmus? Bourn?
Considering Span was the #3 defensive player in the AL (DWAR) and only behind 2 SS, I’d say him if he’s available…
Frankly only the absurd acrobat catches of Trout will keep him from being top vote getter for GG in the AL…in fact to me, Trout, Span, and Austin Jackson — all CF have strong merit for the GG’s in the AL
Like I have said before, Bourjos is not awful by any means, but I have trouble believing he will be consistently good at the plate…..because as they say, you can’t steal 1b.
So conceivably, the Braves could sweep the GG in the NL unless Ryan Braun gets the LF one….
For the AL, I will take Alex Gordon, Mike Trout, and Torii Hunter — simply because I can’t see the voters awarding Reddick in RF even though he probably deserves it more.
FWIW, if both Heyward and Bourn don’t win their GG awards easily, there is something severely wrong with the system….
Of course this the same system that probably won’t reward Darwin Barney, instead giving it to Phillips — who albeit a great defender, did not have the season Barney did….
Oh and this also the system that awarded David Wright instead of Chipper back when….
P-Town, I could see Braun getting some votes. I could also see Alfonso Soriano getting some votes, which would be crazy, simply because of the high fielding percentage and assist total.
But a clean sweep by the Braves wouldn’t surprise me. Frankly, I think all three deserve Gold Gloves, which is pretty amazing.
P-Town, one could reasonably argue that it would be just as big a travesty if Prado doesn’t win the left field Gold Glove, considering the lack of candidates at that position.
That being said, there are not a lot of pieces out there in the free-agent market this year that are all that appealing. So we might have to look other places.”
True that. There’s only really 1 appealing free agent, and he’s a pitcher.
P-Town, I’d probably go with Cozart of the Reds. It’s estimated that Barmes, Crawford and Cozart saved about the same amount of runs. Cozart led them in innings. Cozart led them in defensive WAR.
Simmons has to be the favorite going in to next season.
It is a waste of time to talk abut Uggla going anywhere. No one would take n that contract and the braves would probably have to eat 30 million of whats left to move him.
Shaun. Yes, Detroit winning the Al Central division with 88 wins may indicate that they played in a weaker division than the AL Wild Cards Texas and Baltimore.
However, at the beginning of the season, each team knows that winning the division is a sure fire way to avoid the “uncontrollable variables” that come with playing in a one game, play-in game. Some years, you get lucky and play in a weak division. Other years, you play in a ultra-competitive division. No one said that life was fair, whether it means that you get lucky..or unlucky.
My point is that the new set up places a HUGE premium on winning the division…which obviously wasnt the case from 1995 to 2011…when the Wild Card winner had the same situation that the #3 Division winner (opening on the road in a 2-2-1 Division Series).
By forcing the two Wild Card teams in each league to use their aces in the play-in games…it gives the advantage to the team with the best overall record (which rightfully should be rewarded…because they proved over 162 game season that they are the best team). Making a Wild Card team prove its worthiness by having to overcome additional obstacles….is in my mind, FAIR!
What wasnt fair…was the Wild Card winner automatically being treated no differently than the division winner with the 3rd best record.
I am unsympathetic to the “fairness” Wild Card teams “think” they deserve. You win the division, you avoid the pitfalls that come with playing the play-in game.
Again, the Braves blew their chances when it came to winning the division. As much I would have loved to see the Braves win the World Series….the bottom line is that we werent anywhere close to being World Series worthy! Our play on the field (and decision making by Braves management) clearly showed that.
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Nowhere Man
October 8th, 2012
5:06 pm
Get healthy Bmac and comeback hot. We can expect Mac to comback not so much with Uggla.
MFin04
October 8th, 2012
5:06 pm
“I got to think Bourn and Heyward win it. Prado could win it too, considering there aren’t many good options for leftfield Gold Glove.”
Left field doesn’t win a gold glove, ever. It isn’t a positional award in the outfield. I would be surprised if any Brave wins one actually.
P-Town Brave ©
October 8th, 2012
5:09 pm
Given Gold Gloves aren’t given out by position in the OF, that doesn’t really hold much merit…
Unless they changed that rule altering and I missed it….
If not, I’ll take Bourn, CarGo, and JHey
P-Town Brave ©
October 8th, 2012
5:12 pm
Then again, maybe not CarGo because he didn’t do too well moving to LF…..Braun actually had a pretty solid year defensively as well…
And we all know how Offense wins Gold Gloves
Anyone think Simba has a chance at SS? —- I cant think of too many other comparable options out there
P-Town Brave ©
October 8th, 2012
5:14 pm
Fin-
Bourn is a shoe-in for a GG award….
In fact all 3 of our OF are in Top 10 in many OF defensive categories
DS1
October 8th, 2012
5:20 pm
P town
I can’t think of a better SS in all of baseball, defensively. But I’m guessing he didn’t play enough games to get enough attention.
There are a lot of excellent defensive SS’s in all of baseball. But we sure have one of the best I’ve seen in sometime. And to be able to pick up Janish to cover for him during his injury rehab was remarkable.
Defense and pitching wins games.
Who would be the best possible defensive CF’er we could find this winter?? Bourjos? Gutierrez? Rasmus? Bourn?
We need a really good one.
Shaun
October 8th, 2012
5:22 pm
P-Town, I’m pretty sure they changed the rules recently so that 3 centerfielders can’t win Gold Gloves.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 8th, 2012
5:26 pm
Best defensive CF? I’d say Bourjos, for the money. Good offensive potential as well.
Shaun
October 8th, 2012
5:32 pm
Just did some research. They changed the rule last year. Didn’t realize it was so recent. Now it’s one for each outfield position.
P-Town Brave ©
October 8th, 2012
5:35 pm
DS1-
Considering Span was the #3 defensive player in the AL (DWAR) and only behind 2 SS, I’d say him if he’s available…
Frankly only the absurd acrobat catches of Trout will keep him from being top vote getter for GG in the AL…in fact to me, Trout, Span, and Austin Jackson — all CF have strong merit for the GG’s in the AL
Like I have said before, Bourjos is not awful by any means, but I have trouble believing he will be consistently good at the plate…..because as they say, you can’t steal 1b.
P-Town Brave ©
October 8th, 2012
5:38 pm
Shaun-
Ok, yeah I see that….
So conceivably, the Braves could sweep the GG in the NL unless Ryan Braun gets the LF one….
For the AL, I will take Alex Gordon, Mike Trout, and Torii Hunter — simply because I can’t see the voters awarding Reddick in RF even though he probably deserves it more.
David O'Brien
October 8th, 2012
5:41 pm
Wren discusses abrupt end to postseason, the future, and Braves to-do list this winter
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/10/08/wren-discusses-braves-future-offseason-to-do-list/
P-Town Brave ©
October 8th, 2012
5:41 pm
FWIW, if both Heyward and Bourn don’t win their GG awards easily, there is something severely wrong with the system….
Of course this the same system that probably won’t reward Darwin Barney, instead giving it to Phillips — who albeit a great defender, did not have the season Barney did….
Oh and this also the system that awarded David Wright instead of Chipper back when….
Shaun
October 8th, 2012
5:47 pm
P-Town, I could see Braun getting some votes. I could also see Alfonso Soriano getting some votes, which would be crazy, simply because of the high fielding percentage and assist total.
But a clean sweep by the Braves wouldn’t surprise me. Frankly, I think all three deserve Gold Gloves, which is pretty amazing.
Shaun
October 8th, 2012
5:50 pm
P-Town, one could reasonably argue that it would be just as big a travesty if Prado doesn’t win the left field Gold Glove, considering the lack of candidates at that position.
P-Town Brave ©
October 8th, 2012
5:52 pm
Frankly Shaun, I think Simmons deserves the GG at SS….
In the short amount of time he was up, he saved more runs than ANYONE at SS in the NL….
The only real competition for me would be Barmes, and even then, still not quite as good in the full season that Simmons was in his 1/3 of a season
Shaun
October 8th, 2012
5:52 pm
Prado could be the Gold Glove left fielder one season and his team’s starting third baseman the next.
P-Town Brave ©
October 8th, 2012
5:54 pm
Shaun-
Very true….and not many in baseball can say theyre versatile enough to be able to do that and do it well….
Frankly, as bad as 3b has been in the NL, Prado could conceivably challenge for a GG there next year…..
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 8th, 2012
5:54 pm
That being said, there are not a lot of pieces out there in the free-agent market this year that are all that appealing. So we might have to look other places.”
True that. There’s only really 1 appealing free agent, and he’s a pitcher.
P-Town Brave ©
October 8th, 2012
5:57 pm
TOBF-
Well, that all depends on how you look at it….
If we are looking at another long term deal w/ someone, yeah, there aren’t many guys at all I’d want to mess around with that over.
Shaun
October 8th, 2012
6:01 pm
P-Town, I’d probably go with Cozart of the Reds. It’s estimated that Barmes, Crawford and Cozart saved about the same amount of runs. Cozart led them in innings. Cozart led them in defensive WAR.
Simmons has to be the favorite going in to next season.
nolie
October 8th, 2012
6:26 pm
I agree with Frank that there is not much out there as FAs
brian
October 8th, 2012
6:54 pm
KC is not trading Myers. We can cross him off of all our wish lists.
Gordon is possible though would cost us at least a pitcher ML ready like Delgado or Teheran or Minor (I would not trade Minor)
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 8th, 2012
7:05 pm
Jon Jay just made a great play (according to highlights). Get that dude for CF. Even if it takes Delgado! (not really)
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 8th, 2012
7:06 pm
I’d trade Delgado, Hanson, and Salcedo (if it takes that much) for Gordon
Nowhere Man
October 8th, 2012
7:45 pm
It is a waste of time to talk abut Uggla going anywhere. No one would take n that contract and the braves would probably have to eat 30 million of whats left to move him.
icons downloads
October 8th, 2012
8:41 pm
You commit an error. I can defend the position. Write to me in PM, we will talk.
HooRah
October 8th, 2012
9:18 pm
yet another weirdo……
Dick Dodge
October 8th, 2012
9:33 pm
Shaun. Yes, Detroit winning the Al Central division with 88 wins may indicate that they played in a weaker division than the AL Wild Cards Texas and Baltimore.
However, at the beginning of the season, each team knows that winning the division is a sure fire way to avoid the “uncontrollable variables” that come with playing in a one game, play-in game. Some years, you get lucky and play in a weak division. Other years, you play in a ultra-competitive division. No one said that life was fair, whether it means that you get lucky..or unlucky.
My point is that the new set up places a HUGE premium on winning the division…which obviously wasnt the case from 1995 to 2011…when the Wild Card winner had the same situation that the #3 Division winner (opening on the road in a 2-2-1 Division Series).
By forcing the two Wild Card teams in each league to use their aces in the play-in games…it gives the advantage to the team with the best overall record (which rightfully should be rewarded…because they proved over 162 game season that they are the best team). Making a Wild Card team prove its worthiness by having to overcome additional obstacles….is in my mind, FAIR!
What wasnt fair…was the Wild Card winner automatically being treated no differently than the division winner with the 3rd best record.
I am unsympathetic to the “fairness” Wild Card teams “think” they deserve. You win the division, you avoid the pitfalls that come with playing the play-in game.
Again, the Braves blew their chances when it came to winning the division. As much I would have loved to see the Braves win the World Series….the bottom line is that we werent anywhere close to being World Series worthy! Our play on the field (and decision making by Braves management) clearly showed that.
HooRah
October 8th, 2012
9:37 pm
Hi Lou
Dick Dodge
October 8th, 2012
9:44 pm
P-Town Brave ©, Simmons really proved his “gold glove worthiness” with his fumbling fielding and throwing error in Friday’s game.
Venice Jim
October 8th, 2012
10:47 pm
RIP, Alex Karras
Venice Jim
October 8th, 2012
11:18 pm
Stupid me for trusting a supposedly trusted source – he’s not dead yet…
Venice Jim
October 8th, 2012
11:26 pm
Getting closer, theoretically…
brian
October 8th, 2012
11:44 pm
Rockies supposedly will part with Fowler for young pitching………
ncgary
October 21st, 2012
4:55 pm
is it time for wolfpack basketball yet?
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May 18th, 2013
8:25 pm
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