What had been a magical year for Chipper Jones and the Braves reverted to postseason heartache Friday. Kris Medlen, the pitcher who couldn’t lose, lost. And to cap their disappointing night, a Braves rally in the eighth inning was thwarted by a questionable infield-fly ruling.
The Braves made three errors, none more costly than Jones’ errant throw in the three-run fourth inning of 6-3 loss to St. Louis in the first National League Wild Card game before an overflow crowd at Turner Field.
The Cardinals advanced to a Division Series against Washington that starts Sunday, while the Braves were eliminated from the playoffs and left to stew about making so many mistakes in their biggest game of the year. And to wonder what might have been if not for that umpire’s call in the eighth.
“I’m not willing to say that call cost us the ballgame,” said Jones, who went 1-for-5 in the last game of his storied career, the hit an infield single in the ninth inning. “Our three errors cost us the ballgame, mine being the biggest.”
The Braves trailed 6-3 and had runners at first and second with one out in the eighth inning when Andrelton Simmons hit a pop fly into left field. Shortstop Pete Kozma ran out for it but backed off at the last second. The ball fell between Kozma and left fielder Matt Holliday, and a crowd of 52,631 roared, assuming the bases would be full with one out and Brian McCann on deck to pinch-hit.
McCann, who has a .339 career average and nine grand slams in 109 at-bats with the bases loaded.
Only the bases wouldn’t be loaded, because left-field umpire Sam Holbrook called Simmons out on an infield-fly ruling, an unusual call for a ball that landed as far into the outfield as Simmons’ pop-up, which fell about 50 feet past the back edge of the infield dirt.
“I was stunned,” Simmons said. “I couldn’t understand the call. I’ve seen it made shallow, but not that deep [in the outfield], pretty much in left field. I don’t think anybody has seen that one before.”
Manager Fredi Gonzalez argued vehemently with umpires near third base, and fans littered the field with hundreds of plastic bottles and other garbage, causing a 19-minute delay, during which Gonzalez filed an official protest.
“I thought the shortstop had to go way out there to make a play,” Gonzalez said. “[Joe Torre] came back and told me they were going to go with what was called on the field.”
Infield-fly rulings are not reviewable under baseball’s instant-replay rules, and Torre, Major League Baseball’s vice president of baseball operations, upheld the ruling. Normally the protest would be in written form and decided upon in 24 hours, but since it was a one-game playoff Torre made the call right away.
“I ruled to disallow the protest based on the fact it’s a judgment call,” Torre said.
Cardinals reliever Jason Motte replaced Mitchell Boggs during the delay and walked McCann to load the bases before striking out Michael Bourn to end the inning. The Braves left 12 runners on base and went 1-for-8 with runners in scoring position, continuing their trend of woeful work in that area during the past two months.
It was the 16th loss in the past 21 home postseason games for the Braves, who went one-and-done in their first trip to the postseason since 2010 and their second in seven seasons. They lost their past six postseason series, and now they’ve also lost the first single-game Wild Card playoff.
Catcher David Ross hit a two-run homer to give the Braves a 2-0 lead in the second inning. It was the fourth homer in his past 20 at-bats for Ross, who started because McCann has struggled with a shoulder injury.
Medlen was charged with five runs (three earned) in 6-1/3 innings as the Cardinals became the first team to beat the Braves in Medlen’s past 24 starts. Not that it was his fault – he gave up three hits and no walks, and two of three Cardinals runs in the fourth inning were unearned, and the Braves had a potential tying run erased by Simmons’ baserunning mistake in the bottom of the fourth.
Jones’ farewell tour of a final season had often been referred to as a storybook ending to his Hall of Famer’s career, as Jones had come through with so many dramatic hits that one Braves broadcaster said the season couldn’t have been scripted better in Hollywood.
But things went awry and the story took a cruel turn Friday, when Jones’ throwing error was part of a shoddy fielding display by a Braves defense that had the fewest errors (86) and best fielding percentage in the National League during the regular season.
Jones threw wide of second base on a potential double-play grounder with none out in the fourth, and two of three runs in the inning were unearned. Simmons and second baseman Dan Uggla also made errors.
“The guys who made the errors are pretty sure-handed,” Gonzalez said. “I’m sure we were excited…. We just didn’t do what we normally do, and it hurt us…. It huts losing a ballgame the way we did tonight.”
The Cardinals scored two unearned runs in the seventh inning after errors by Uggla and Simmons.
“When you have six runs on six hits…” Jones said of the Cardinals’ output. “I don’t know how many of them were earned runs. As far as I’m concerned, the only one they should have scored was the home run.”
Matt Holliday’s fourth-inning solo homer off Medlen put the Cardinals ahead 4-2.
“It sucks to go out like that,” Uggla said. “We had an opportunity late in the game to get back in the game. Who knows what might have happened? … For this to be Chipper’s last game, that’s a shame. We had opportunities. But we didn’t take care of the baseball. It stings to lose the way we did.”
Trailing 3-2 in the fourth, the Braves put themselves in position to tie or possibly take the lead, after Freddie Freeman hit a leadoff single and Ross surprised the Cardinals with a bunt to the left side. He hustled to turn it into a hit, diving across first base to beat the throw and put runners on the corners with one out.
Simmons was up next and bunted on the first pitch. He didn’t make solid contact and the ball dribbled just in front of the plate, where Molina picked it up and threw to first base, the ball skipped off the top of Simmons’ batting helmet and sailed into foul territory, allowing Freeman to score easily and putting Ross in scoring position. Or so it appeared.
The crowd erupted in cheers, but only for a moment, until the realization that home-plate umpire Jeff Kellogg was signaling something, and it wasn’t anything the Braves and their fans wanted to see. The umpire ruled – correctly, as replays showed — that Simmons had veered inside the baseline while running to first base. He was called for interference and the runners were sent back.
Gonzalez said he’d called for a safety squeeze because of the Braves’ recent scoring problems. Freeman wasn’t running at any point until after the ball caromed off Simmons’ helmet into foul territory, but Gonzalez said if the bunt had been struck harder and gotten past the pitcher Freeman would have scored.
“I didn’t execute,” Simmons said. “I had chances to help my team win tonight, and I didn’t do it.”
The last time the Braves lost a game started by Medlen was at Pittsburgh on May 23, 2010.
“We didn’t play well today,” Medlen said. “Obviously the [infield fly] call is magnified by the situation. If we make plays hear, if I make pitches, it’s a different game. It’s easy to point fingers. Was it a bad call? I’ll leave you guys to decide that. I just think we could have put ourselves in a better situation.”
Since moving to the starting rotation on July 31 Medlen was phenomenal, going 9-0 with an 0.97 ERA and allowing more than one run in only two games and a total of nine earned runs in 83-2/3 innings.
The Braves won 94 games during the regular season, including 17 of 26 in September. They had pushed aside the stigma of a 10-20 collapse at the end of the 2011 season that kept them out of the playoffs and allowed St. Louis to overtake Atlanta on the final night of the regular season when the Braves lost to the Phillies in 13 innings.
But after losing five of six games against the Braves during the regular season, the Cardinals won Friday when it mattered most, and again they’ll keep playing while the Braves pack for the offseason.
1,053 comments Add your comment
GT Trumpet
October 5th, 2012
8:41 pm
One of the worst calls in MLB history.
Biff Pocoroba
October 5th, 2012
8:44 pm
Yes starting a young pitcher in a one game series instead of a veteran and playing that idiot Uggla in the biggest game of the year are terrible calls. Hopefully Not Ready Fredi will be packing his bags and moving back to Miami next week.
Biff Pocoroba
October 5th, 2012
8:45 pm
Yes starting a young pitcher in a one game series instead of a veteran and playing that idiot Uggla in the biggest game of the year are terrible calls. Hopefully Not Ready Fredi will be packing his bags and moving back to Miami next week.
Adam
October 5th, 2012
8:45 pm
I am out of words. I am from Philly—came down to Atlanta to see Chip’s final series. Really thought we had a good chance tonight. Terrible call by the umps but also terrible defensive. Sad ending. Thanks #10 for everything!
Adam
October 5th, 2012
8:45 pm
I am out of words. I am from Philly—came down to Atlanta to see Chip’s final series. Really thought we had a good chance tonight. Terrible call by the umps but also terrible defensive. Sad ending. Thanks #10 for everything!
Biff Pocoroba
October 5th, 2012
8:45 pm
Yes starting a young pitcher in a one game series instead of a veteran and playing that idiot Uggla in the biggest game of the year are terrible calls. Hopefully Not Ready Fredi will be packing his bags and moving back to Miami next week.
Justin
October 5th, 2012
8:45 pm
Sam Holbrook’s parents must be brother and sister to one another. What a pitiful excuse for an official and a man…..#smalljohnsonevensmallerbrain
J J
October 5th, 2012
8:45 pm
losers again.
Headlines
October 5th, 2012
8:46 pm
Classless team followed by classless fans. You are a disgrace Atlanta.
Jewel770
October 5th, 2012
8:46 pm
Infield fly rule. Go.
Headlines
October 5th, 2012
8:46 pm
Classless team followed by classless fans. You are a disgrace Atlanta.
Headlines
October 5th, 2012
8:46 pm
Classless team followed by classless fans. You are a disgrace Atlanta.
Headlines
October 5th, 2012
8:46 pm
Classless team followed by classless fans. You are a disgrace Atlanta.
Headlines
October 5th, 2012
8:46 pm
Classless team followed by classless fans. You are a disgrace Atlanta.
Headlines
October 5th, 2012
8:46 pm
Classless team followed by classless fans. You are a disgrace Atlanta.
Headlines
October 5th, 2012
8:46 pm
Classless team followed by classless fans. You are a disgrace Atlanta.
Headlines
October 5th, 2012
8:46 pm
Classless team followed by classless fans. You are a disgrace Atlanta.
Headlines
October 5th, 2012
8:46 pm
Classless team followed by classless fans. You are a disgrace Atlanta.
Headlines
October 5th, 2012
8:46 pm
Classless team followed by classless fans. You are a disgrace Atlanta.
steveo
October 5th, 2012
8:46 pm
S.O.B.’s……aka…Same Old Braves….call was bad, but the Braves were getting their asses whooped anyway!!!
Headlines
October 5th, 2012
8:46 pm
Classless team followed by classless fans. You are a disgrace Atlanta.
Headlines
October 5th, 2012
8:46 pm
Classless team followed by classless fans. You are a disgrace Atlanta.
Matt the Brave
October 5th, 2012
8:46 pm
This is worse than Hrbek pulling Gant off of 1st. Both times it has killed a rally by the Braves and screwed us in the end.
Headlines
October 5th, 2012
8:46 pm
Classless team followed by classless fans. You are a disgrace Atlanta.
Adam
October 5th, 2012
8:46 pm
I am from Philly—came down to see the final series in Atlanta for Chipper. Terrible call, terrible defense. Really disheartening.
Headlines
October 5th, 2012
8:46 pm
Classless team followed by classless fans. You are a disgrace Atlanta.
i am right
October 5th, 2012
8:46 pm
chipper you suck, 10 year olds throw better than you!
Protest the World Series
October 5th, 2012
8:47 pm
Do not watch the playoffs of the World Series. If MLB can cheat us, we can cheat them.
Brave@Heart
October 5th, 2012
8:47 pm
Going to miss you Chipper. Now time for the off season MOVES and waiting for spring!
Roy
October 5th, 2012
8:47 pm
How would like to be these umps there going to get killed by the press, wrost call i ever seen. Hope they don’t get to umpire anymore this year.
bocabrave
October 5th, 2012
8:47 pm
The NFL replacement refs would have got that call right.
G-real
October 5th, 2012
8:48 pm
Uggghhh!
mark
October 5th, 2012
8:48 pm
worst idea in sports is a one game playoff of a 162 game season
i am right
October 5th, 2012
8:48 pm
shut up headlines! your stupid!
Tracie Hill
October 5th, 2012
8:48 pm
Absolutely no excuse for throwing garbage on the field. I know never to let a child watch Atlanta play again…that is not the kind of sportsmanship I want them to learn.
norris
October 5th, 2012
8:48 pm
never have I seen a call that bad in baseball!
Ebenezer Snerdberg
October 5th, 2012
8:48 pm
MEMO TO BRAVES, TBS SPSO ETC., FIRE JOE SIMPSON!
J J
October 5th, 2012
8:48 pm
I told you that your Hooters hero would not do a thing
don
October 5th, 2012
8:49 pm
Headlines is a fool. I would be censored for saying what he really is so I’ll have to settle for fool.
We Will Get Fooled Again
October 5th, 2012
8:49 pm
The call was horrible, but let’s keep it in its proper context. The players lost this game. Honestly, even if the call had gone our way, does anyone think anybody from this merry band of losers would have come up with a clutch hit?
The culture of choking continues. Everything was set up for us to exorcise some demons tonight. We had Medlen on the mound with a rocking crowd and a 2-0 lead. Only the Braves could blow it so spectacularly.
Changes have to be made. Not wholesale changes, no. This is a good team that had a good year. I don’t think you fire Fredi. I do think you fire Dan Uggla. I do think you tell Michael Bourn good riddance.
But other than that, I have no answers. We’ve changed managers. We’ve changed players. The choking never stops. The inability to win at Turner Field in October never stops. Maybe we just need to be like Cubs fans and accept that we are destined to a lifetime of failure in the postseason.
The Truth
October 5th, 2012
8:49 pm
Champagne for St. Louis and the usual Piss for Atlanta …
Braves fan serving overseas
October 5th, 2012
8:49 pm
Well, getting up early to watch the boys lose was not fun. 12 am local here in Middle East. But watching them lose because a multitude of bad things (umpires, errors, men left on base) was harder. I wish Chipper the best and he (in my books) will go down as the best Braves player in history. I am looking forward to this offseason to see what we do. Regardless the outcome Go Braves and thanks for memorable last season Chipper!
KC
October 5th, 2012
8:50 pm
This just in: The NFL replacement refs from the Green Bay / Seattle Monday Night game showed up to umpire the NL Wild Card game!!!
SONINO JOHN PAUL SCARDELLETTI - A CHRISTIAN
October 5th, 2012
8:50 pm
“ATLANTA IS BURNING!”
ATLANTA IS BURNING!
BRAVES FANS YELL “FOUL!”
FEEL THEY GOT CHEATED,
MAN, DID THEY HOWL!
INFIELD FLY RULE,
UMPS DID CALL.
FOLKS LITTERED DIAMOND,
CAUSED GAME TO STALL.
I THOUGHT A RIOT,
WOULD BREAK OUT.
THANKFULLY IT DIDN’T,
BUT THERE WAS DOUBT.
NOW THOSE CARDINALS,
NATIONALS THEY’LL PLAY.
5 GAME SERIES,
BEGINS SUNDAY.
GOD BLESS
SONINO JOHN PAUL SCARDELLETTI – A CHRISTIAN
norris
October 5th, 2012
8:50 pm
should have been bases loaded 1 out and who knows what could have happened?
Spartacus
October 5th, 2012
8:50 pm
You know, as disappointing as this loss was….it prevented just prolonging the torture. This team as presently constituted clearly didn’t have the heart to win the WS….so might as lose now rather than just stringing out the fans longer for even bigger disappointment.
Just hope the bad Karma doesn’t spread to the Dawgs and Falcons this weekend!!!
Ghost of Gil Garrido
October 5th, 2012
8:51 pm
Unbelievable. Horrible call, and I hate that the season ends like this for the Braves and a career ends like this for Chipper. All deserve better. What the hell, baseball gods?
Ilovechipper
October 5th, 2012
8:51 pm
We will miss u chipper! Who cares about the playoffs! It’s all about u chipper!
soullrenaissance
October 5th, 2012
8:51 pm
The most over-hyped non-clutch hitter in history. Chipper Jones
don
October 5th, 2012
8:51 pm
Joe Simpson apologizes almost as much as Obama. I’d put them on the same level which is somewhere between morons and idiots.
Al Goldstein
October 5th, 2012
8:51 pm
Worst call in baseball! Had the NFL loaned the replacement refs to the National league. Many of the umpires calls are questionable especially balls & strikes but this missed call was open to all eyes.Anybody who thinks this call was right is going to vote for obama.
Biff Pocoroba
October 5th, 2012
8:51 pm
Not Ready Fredi blamed it on the hitting coach last year and thought that we needed two hitting coaches. Who will be the scapegoat this year?
Ilovechipper
October 5th, 2012
8:51 pm
We will miss u chipper! Who cares about the playoffs! It’s all about u chipper!
norris
October 5th, 2012
8:51 pm
we didnt have the pitching to win a world series. we have medlen and hudson and thats it. and we havent been hitting that well.
norris
October 5th, 2012
8:51 pm
we didnt have the pitching to win a world series. we have medlen and hudson and thats it. and we havent been hitting that well.
joemustgo
October 5th, 2012
8:52 pm
If that embarrases you so much Joe , do us all a favor and call another team’s games.
Wrecker
October 5th, 2012
8:52 pm
People and pundits in other cities are always stating that Braves’ fans do not care. I think the influx of garbage on the field, even though wrong, demonstrates clearly that Braves’ fans care very much.
Russell
October 5th, 2012
8:52 pm
Questionable call? It was blatantly wrong!! Don’t cover for the umpires.
Michael
October 5th, 2012
8:52 pm
Well, it is a tough loss for sure. But I am still proud of my Braves!
BierBreth
October 5th, 2012
8:52 pm
This loss isn’t the umpires’ fault. This team, as it has done time and again, choked when it counted most. The Cards wanted it more and were the better team, despite the Braves’ having owned them in the season. What a lame, weak, and pathetic bunch of losers. I hope the ‘end of an era’ comments we keep hearing mean the end of failed expectations. There is no reason on Earth why this team should have gotten beat tonight, except for the fact that it’s a well-established normal thing for them to choke when it means the most. Goodbye, Chipper. I hope you enjoy that losing taste for the rest of your days.
Go Jackets
October 5th, 2012
8:52 pm
I loved Freddi Freemans play……he should be the vocal leader now in the clubhouse.
Ebenezer Snerdberg
October 5th, 2012
8:53 pm
ROY, THEY WILL GIVE THEM MEDALS! I HOPE THEY GOT GOOD SECURITY. THEYS A LOT O’ VERY DRUNK, PISSED OFF REDNECKS IN THE VICINITY!
JOE SIMPSON’S TIME IN ATLANTA IS DONE, I HOPE HE CATCHES A NETWORK JOB. IF HE’S ON NEXT YEAR, I SHALL TUNE IN BY RADIO. PLEASE JOE, GO BACK TO THE LEFT COAST!
Sam
October 5th, 2012
8:53 pm
Medlen did fine, if it weren’t for Chipper and Simmons’ errors, the Cards would have only had 3 runs.
Spartacus
October 5th, 2012
8:53 pm
the Curse of the Braves continues…..
We are the Buffalo Bills of MLB
The Truth
October 5th, 2012
8:53 pm
Chipper is not reevant now and has not been for years. Good ridence, dude …. Probably be selling hot dogs at the Varsity next year. Better use of talent ….
The Truth
October 5th, 2012
8:53 pm
Chipper is not relevant now and has not been for years. Good ridence, dude …. Probably be selling hot dogs at the Varsity next year. Better use of talent ….
done
October 5th, 2012
8:53 pm
LF ump should not be making that call. since he did 1) SS was not underneath ball 2)made call way too late. Don’t tell me the SS peeled off because he heard ump call infield fly. SS never looked at ump when ball hit grass. Poor poor poor call. Almost as bad as Eric Gregg (RIP)
Blazerdawg
October 5th, 2012
8:53 pm
GG STL. You played D better than my Bravos.
Please do not take the vital over the IFR call as being against the Cards. This issue is deeper and goes back to Hrbek pulling Gant, Gregg’s one-sided strike zone, and a number os slights/errors against the Braves.
Blazerdawg
October 5th, 2012
8:53 pm
GG STL. You played D better than my Bravos.
Please do not take the vital over the IFR call as being against the Cards. This issue is deeper and goes back to Hrbek pulling Gant, Gregg’s one-sided strike zone, and a number os slights/errors against the Braves.
NatzFan
October 5th, 2012
8:53 pm
I root for the Nats and I agree that was one of the worst calls I’ve ever seen. The Braves deserved a better ending because they played tough all year. Sorry to see Chipper’s season end like that — one of the classiest players ever. See you guys next year; we’ll bop the Cards for you.
barves
October 5th, 2012
8:53 pm
Sam Holbrook better run out of town F A S T
Ted
October 5th, 2012
8:53 pm
Oh shut up and stop complaining and whining. You Braves fans get exactly what you deserve. If the Braves were any good anyway they would have won the division outright. I hope all the redneck Braves fans are disappointed tonight. I read that Atlanta is one of the dirtiest cities, it certainly lived up to that moniker tonight. HA HA HA HA HA
Greg
October 5th, 2012
8:54 pm
This is why I gave up watching baseball after the last strike. Terrible play by all.
norris
October 5th, 2012
8:54 pm
Only an absolute idiott would say that was classless. The team and the fans should have just walked out of the stadium. a bad call is a bad call but that was plain horrible. and not one other umpire over ruled it. which is amazing. somebody made a lot of money on that one.
Michael
October 5th, 2012
8:54 pm
BierBreth, sorry but I have to look down on your taste.
TS
October 5th, 2012
8:54 pm
Embarrassed? No way. I was proud of ATL fans throwing the debris. That call was so atrocious, the fans did their part to make sure it go the attention it deserves.
ricocarty21
October 5th, 2012
8:54 pm
This is just an other disappointment. I use to think it was Bobby Cox . Now I know the Braves are just losers. Two world series championships in 100 years when they should have had 15. I am just done with them. Chipper choked, Bourn choked, when it mattered most just like every other year. Good Riddance. I am going to read books , screw baseball.
Ilovechipper
October 5th, 2012
8:55 pm
Yes. Chipper got a hit in his last at bat. I’m sure that made his night! It made mine! Way to go out on top chipper.
GT and Braves Fan
October 5th, 2012
8:55 pm
I just want to see if the media destroys the umpires and has them replaced. just like the replacement refs….Bet they don’t because the media is gutless. We should replace the current structure of our media, because of their bias. They should stand for truth and not favoritism of political parties, unions. They play an important part for our society…if they are consistent this game will be played from start from point of mistake and have the Braves load the bases, apologize to braves and tell them all close calls will go their way for rest of game (no bias here
goober
October 5th, 2012
8:55 pm
@i am right~If you’re going to call someone stupid at least use the word “your” in the proper context. “Your” is not the same as “you’re”. “You’re” welcome.
Hicks Hayseed
October 5th, 2012
8:55 pm
Sam Holbrook’s Wikipedia page has been locked since he made the bad call. Gee, I wonder why? Among his notable contributions in the field of aggressively bad umpiring, he is the fellow who ejected Greinke for spiking the ball in frustration, and action which was in no way directed towards Holbrook or the umpiring crew. He has a heck of a fine career ahead of him as an Eric Gregg impersonator — he’s already got the girth. Sure, the Braves were blowing the game pretty much every inning, so did Holbrook feel like the Cardinals needed any help? Rich Garcia, Don Denkinger, Jim Joyce, and the ghost of Eric Gregg are all thanking Sam Holbrook for positioning himself to be known hereafter as the worst umpire in baseball history. A thoroughly disgusting display of arrogant incompetence.
norris
October 5th, 2012
8:56 pm
Ted…your a loser
HSM
October 5th, 2012
8:56 pm
Headlines, does your babysitter know you’re up?
I’m with Ebeneezer: FIRE Joe Simpson!
HSM
October 5th, 2012
8:56 pm
Headlines, does your babysitter know you’re up?
I’m with Ebeneezer: FIRE Joe Simpson!
Jack
October 5th, 2012
8:56 pm
A few observations:
1) The infield-fly call was questionable to say the least. The umpire raised his arm at the last minute, and neither Cardinal player could have seen it.
2) That said, this call did not cost the Braves the ball game. Terrible fielding by the Braves, along with timely hitting by St. Louis, did that.
3) The behavior of the Atlanta fans was disgraceful. Nothing can warrant the kind of boorish, low-rent acts that threatened the health of the players and delayed the game almost 20 minutes.
4) Farewell, Chipper Jones. It’s really too bad your last game will be remembered for such questionable umpiring and shameful fan behavior.
moorman
October 5th, 2012
8:56 pm
braves management should send joe simpson a message. his ole high and might talk is one reason atlanta is known for a town that wants “character” guys on their sports teams, but funny thing is, they cant win with clean cut guys………
billy
October 5th, 2012
8:56 pm
I am a Mets fan, had the game on, yes, slopy play by the Braves, but THAT call
was awful…..I wonder who had that ump in his pocket….I am smelling a black sox sort of thing going on here….
barves
October 5th, 2012
8:56 pm
Ted, you made some excellent points, but i can’t help but feel you are a very bad troll. Maybe you should go back to college.
Horribly disappointing. Ben Ingram on the radio sounded like he wanted to punch someone in the face.
bitman
October 5th, 2012
8:57 pm
Hey Headlnes – how many times are you going to push that button. Talk about Classless. Impatient Jerk.
g h parker
October 5th, 2012
8:57 pm
Been attending and watching the Braves since they moved here in ‘66. Not sure I have EVER witnessed anything as bizarre as this “game”. Bad fielding really lost this game,nothing else.
Ebenezer Snerdberg
October 5th, 2012
8:57 pm
TED, PLEASE GO SOMEWHERE AND TRY TO IMPREGNATE YOURSELF!
done
October 5th, 2012
8:57 pm
Curse of Leyritz
Fredo
October 5th, 2012
8:57 pm
Hey Braves .. tough!
“And left to wonder what might have been if not for that umpire’s call in the eighth”
field that ball correctly like you’ve done all year, and hit … well you haven’t hit good in a while so that’s pointless …. but field the ball correctly and you could have been riding Meds into the Division series instead of stewing over a call that shouldn’t have affected the game if you had just done your job right.
Ted
October 5th, 2012
8:57 pm
BYE BYE BRAVES! HA HA HA HA HA That has a nice ring to it.
Ted
October 5th, 2012
8:57 pm
I am a 15 year kid transplant from suburban Chicago that goes to Wheeler HS, cannot get a date, and have unresolved “growth” issues
Jimmy Crack
October 5th, 2012
8:57 pm
I’ve lived here a long time…
It’s like a sports nightmare.
Automatic Out Uggla
October 5th, 2012
8:57 pm
There is no way possible Uggla can stay an Atlanta Brave. Terrible signing and even worse excuse of a player. It has been two seasons now of not earning his keep. Heck, he even struggles just throwing the ball to first base.
sid
October 5th, 2012
8:57 pm
Al Gore says it’s the altitude that causes the Braves to choke, year after year.
Big Papa Dawg
October 5th, 2012
8:58 pm
Three errors and terrible clutch hitting sank this season the call was awful but did not cost the game. Would have been better if Larry had oled that ball like he usually did. that’s ole
mark
October 5th, 2012
8:58 pm
I have never been more proud of my Braves fans!!!! don’t take that crap laying down, those highlights will foreever be remembered fo the worst call in playoff history. We hate loosing and will not toleate getting rooked,cheated or anything else ….show me a good looser and ill show you a looser
jw
October 5th, 2012
8:58 pm
Let’s face it – the Braves beat themselves in this game, bad call or not. Look at the replay of Chipper’s last at bat. He was TROTTING to first base. He was pulling up like he was already out. He was lucky to get that call. Just watch the replay. The Braves gave up.
KINGDAWG
October 5th, 2012
8:58 pm
@Headlines
You are a tool.
Longtime Braves Fan
October 5th, 2012
8:58 pm
A shame that Skip Carey isn’t around to explain the infield fly rule to us anymore.
jack
October 5th, 2012
8:58 pm
Bad call, does not make it right to show out badly by throwing garbage on the field. No class Turner fans!
fireplug
October 5th, 2012
8:58 pm
Not that it means much right now, but the umpire who made the Infield Fly call in today’s game was the same Sam Holbrook that threw Mark McGwire out of a big Braves/Cards game in Busch Stadium in the bottom of the 1st Inning for “Arguing Balls and Strikes”. So, in a way Umpire Holbrook should have felt very comfortable with debris flying from the stands………..he generated that same response from Cardinal fans that Saturday.
Ted
October 5th, 2012
8:59 pm
YOU ALL ARE SORE LOSERS
Rufus
October 5th, 2012
8:59 pm
Worst call I ever saw in 52 years. Now, I’ve seen plenty of blown calls, but this one was with malice aforethought. That ball was in medium left field.
Let’s see if baseball has enough integrity to grant the protest. Not likely.
Still, go Braves, and thanks Chipper.
durrr
October 5th, 2012
8:59 pm
Fire Joe Simpson.
Big Flavor
October 5th, 2012
8:59 pm
Hey, that sucked for the Braves but how ’bout some love for the Giants? Come on baby, we’re looking good this year. Now all we need is an umpire crew that understands the infield fly rule……
Ilovechipper
October 5th, 2012
8:59 pm
Hmmmm everyone thinks umps had say in game…braves lost this on their own…just like always. Chipper, thanks for nothing bum. Fans at game, did u expect anything else? Braves don’t win in postseason. Players and organization don’t care bout winning enough.
P
October 5th, 2012
9:00 pm
Regardless of what the fans did the players dont have anything to do with that and just the fans dont represent the whole city, and personally I have never seen a call so horrible inmy life and I hope they overturn it and give them the protest call bc who knows what could have happened with 1 out and the bases loaded it cld have shifted the momentum the braves way and they cld have come back bc they have done it the whole yr getting clutch hits and winning games whne they needed to and yes its very disappointing that they lost bc im sure everybody wanted Chipper to go out on top but hay who knows MLB my just uphelp the protest and we may get another game in tomorrow.
Freedom from insanity
October 5th, 2012
9:00 pm
Bad calls, bad errors and bad offensive efforts. . No need to place blame….just not enough to be considered a big time team!
Ted
October 5th, 2012
9:00 pm
BYE BYE BRAVES
Vel Crow
October 5th, 2012
9:00 pm
A bad call does not excuse bad behavior from the fans. The whole nation saw a bunch of idiot fans show the worse sportsmanship ever.
P
October 5th, 2012
9:00 pm
Regardless of what the fans did the players dont have anything to do with that and just the fans dont represent the whole city, and personally I have never seen a call so horrible inmy life and I hope they overturn it and give them the protest call bc who knows what could have happened with 1 out and the bases loaded it cld have shifted the momentum the braves way and they cld have come back bc they have done it the whole yr getting clutch hits and winning games whne they needed to and yes its very disappointing that they lost bc im sure everybody wanted Chipper to go out on top but hay who knows MLB my just uphelp the protest and we may get another game in tomorrow.
J J
October 5th, 2012
9:01 pm
Got rid of the Hooters hero. maybe you can win n ow. No more ego trips. BYE Go back to hooters where you belong.
Virginia Brave Fan
October 5th, 2012
9:01 pm
we need to trade Uggla. Lets trade for Justin Upton, and
move Prado to second.
Brave@Heart
October 5th, 2012
9:01 pm
You take away the errors and the call by the ump does not mean a thing. This game was lost by LACK of timely hitting and bad play by the 2nd, SS, and 3rd basemen.
Headlines is the Idiot
October 5th, 2012
9:02 pm
I agree fire Joe Simpson. The umpires were the disgrace not the fans. Headlies you play with your Johnson way too much. Get a grip, get it
tell it like it is.
October 5th, 2012
9:02 pm
Yes the call was bad,but the Braves were worse! The braves got beat by a better team.
Headlines is the Idiot
October 5th, 2012
9:02 pm
I agree fire Joe Simpson. The umpires were the disgrace not the fans. Headlies you play with your Johnson way too much. Get a grip, get it
Big Flavor
October 5th, 2012
9:02 pm
And believe me I am SO bummed that the Braves lost. I was looking forward to another Giant manhandling of them. But hey, seriously, tough loss tonight you Braves fans. That one had to hurt
tell it like it is.
October 5th, 2012
9:02 pm
Yes the call was bad,but the Braves were worse! The braves got beat by a better team.
Headlines is the Idiot
October 5th, 2012
9:02 pm
I agree fire Joe Simpson. The umpires were the disgrace not the fans. Headlies you play with your Johnson way too much. Get a grip, get it
tell it like it is.
October 5th, 2012
9:02 pm
Yes the call was bad,but the Braves were worse! The braves got beat by a better team.
Romney
October 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
This is officially the night MLB died. Not that the Braves deserve the honor with their lackluster performance.
When you resort to desperate measures instead of enacting innovative change, you gwt results like this.
MLB is no more than the NHL was 20 years ago. Football, both College and NFL, has slayed it’s existence.
Maybe Obama can now turn Turner Field into a wind farm as this area has sucked for decades.
Headlines is the Idiot
October 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
I agree fire Joe Simpson. The umpires were the disgrace not the fans. Headlies & Jack
you play with your Johnson way too much. Get a grip, get it
Romney
October 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
This is officially the night MLB died. Not that the Braves deserve the honor with their lackluster performance.
When you resort to desperate measures instead of enacting innovative change, you gwt results like this.
MLB is no more than the NHL was 20 years ago. Football, both College and NFL, has slayed it’s existence.
Maybe Obama can now turn Turner Field into a wind farm as this area has sucked for decades.
Romney
October 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
This is officially the night MLB died. Not that the Braves deserve the honor with their lackluster performance.
When you resort to desperate measures instead of enacting innovative change, you gwt results like this.
MLB is no more than the NHL was 20 years ago. Football, both College and NFL, has slayed it’s existence.
Maybe Obama can now turn Turner Field into a wind farm as this area has sucked for decades.
adam
October 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
The worst playoff team in baseball history lost to the best team in playoff history. Did anyone really expect anything different?
Romney
October 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
This is officially the night MLB died. Not that the Braves deserve the honor with their lackluster performance.
When you resort to desperate measures instead of enacting innovative change, you gwt results like this.
MLB is no more than the NHL was 20 years ago. Football, both College and NFL, has slayed it’s existence.
Maybe Obama can now turn Turner Field into a wind farm as this area has sucked for decades.
Admiral Obvious
October 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
I love Atlanta and I love the Braves but I stopped watching them since the 96 series against the Yankees when they became chokers. Too much heartache.
Romney
October 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
This is officially the night MLB died. Not that the Braves deserve the honor with their lackluster performance.
When you resort to desperate measures instead of enacting innovative change, you gwt results like this.
MLB is no more than the NHL was 20 years ago. Football, both College and NFL, has slayed it’s existence.
Maybe Obama can now turn Turner Field into a wind farm as this area has sucked for decades.
adam
October 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
The worst playoff team in baseball history lost to the best team in playoff history. Did anyone really expect anything different?
Romney
October 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
This is officially the night MLB died. Not that the Braves deserve the honor with their lackluster performance.
When you resort to desperate measures instead of enacting innovative change, you gwt results like this.
MLB is no more than the NHL was 20 years ago. Football, both College and NFL, has slayed it’s existence.
Maybe Obama can now turn Turner Field into a wind farm as this area has sucked for decades.
Ilovechipper
October 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
Yeah, blame the umps. Let’s all let the braves off the hook. Anyone thinks umps cost braves the game is an idiot enabling dbag…just like chipper…who is a loser. Gaurantee that he would take that last hit over a braves win every time.
HOF 10
October 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
No reason at all to make that call. That’s what makes it such a bad call. I don’t care how bad we played at times to fall behind, we had the mo there, the Cards were freaked out and we very likely would have tied or gone ahead in the 8th. Was there any chance in the world the shortstop was going to intentionally let that ball drop and then try for a double play? Just a terrible call. Can’t say for sure it cost us the game, but it sure did ruin the game.
Hal
October 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
Atlanta “fans” behavior absolutely disgraceful. You should be embarrassed. Game should have been forfeited right there. What is this, drunken European soccer?
Braves 73
October 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
“Headlines”- Nothing like some worthless loser coming on a Bravest blog & reposting the same stupid sh!! over & over again.
It’s an emotional game & fans are allowed to be pissed with what was a game changing call.
russ78
October 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
The point of the rule is to prevent BS double plays being made on simple pop ups. There is no way he could have made a double play by intently dropping that ball.
Bull Spit!
Ilovechipper
October 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
Yeah, blame the umps. Let’s all let the braves off the hook. Anyone thinks umps cost braves the game is an idiot enabling dbag…just like chipper…who is a loser. Gaurantee that he would take that last hit over a braves win every time.
Romney
October 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
This is officially the night MLB died. Not that the Braves deserve the honor with their lackluster performance.
When you resort to desperate measures instead of enacting innovative change, you gwt results like this.
MLB is no more than the NHL was 20 years ago. Football, both College and NFL, has slayed it’s existence.
Maybe Obama can now turn Turner Field into a wind farm as this area has sucked for decades.
Andy
October 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
Medlen really had a good outing, the defense just wasn’t there to help him. Fredi made the right decision starting him and Ross. That game was a joke and very embarrassing for Braves fans. An awful way for Chipper to finish. It will be a tough off season.
i am right
October 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
stupid braves
stupid upms
what waste of time
you owe me $1 braves
ive wasted my night
atleast im wasted
andy
October 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
Man. Man. I am glad so many care about the braves, as I. I am glad the fans threw stuff as well. If MLB is going to make an atrocious call and do NOTHING…..why not. Since rules dont seem to matter for one, but the atlanta fans should be embrassed. Sure. The braves lost this game. Not the umpires, but the umpires kept the braves from winning as well.
BrandonLee49
October 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
Atlanta Fans Acted like Any Ball-Club’s Fans would React to such a STUPID IRRESPONSIBLE CALL… Tha Ball in Question has to be a Catchable Ball, How in Heaven could he have Determined it was Catchable, was the Cardinal Fielder Camped under it , and Then Let it drop within his Reach??? HELL NO !!!!! P____ Poor Umpiring…. Simply Put The Braves were Robbed !!!!! Where is this Guy From ??? St Louis ???? Not a Cardinal’s Fan BS !!!!
Kevin Chop
October 5th, 2012
9:04 pm
Crow you can kiss my ass…I would of thrown my seat on the field if i could. I am proud that the city of Atlanta finally showed some emotion instead of bending over and taking it up the butt.
Andy
October 5th, 2012
9:05 pm
That comment about Chipper’s last hit is wrong.
Dozer
October 5th, 2012
9:05 pm
Horrendous call but still they played true to form – kicked the ball all over & can’t get a clutch hit. Don’t worry Braves fans – there won’t be any casualties here. They will make the same excuses & point to their record. Maybe this year they will fire another coach. I’m sure there will be another offseason of McGurk’s arrogant dismissal of legitimate fan gripes & more of the same. We will watch Bourne walk because of the so-called limitations of a local tv contract (tell us again who negotiated that?) despite the fact that the new national contract doubles their take. The culture of acceptance continues. Happy trails Chipper & well done….
Jimmy
October 5th, 2012
9:05 pm
Terrible defense and our usual unbelievably poor hitting with RISP. Good fundamental teams take advantage of these mistakes and win playoff games.
Maybe you should have been a little nervous today Chipper. Looked unmotivated and un-enthused.
Big Flavor
October 5th, 2012
9:05 pm
I really think that Braves fans need to look at how they present themselves to the rest of the country. I mean, that chop thing has just made you all look like brain-dead lemmings. It’s gone on to long, lose it. Maybe some air-high fives instead? Or jumping jacks?
That was disgraceful behavior tonight, class and dignity were not shown……
Bullitt
October 5th, 2012
9:05 pm
Need we say more 3 errors hello?
ricocarty21
October 5th, 2012
9:06 pm
Well chipper won’t have to disappoint anymore!! Damn , I thought he was walking down to 1st base in the ninth.What a bunch of losers!! Now get a legitimate 3rd baseman and a legitimate right handed power hitting out fielder. But the losing tradition in big games never goes away. P.O. ed in Alabama.
SM9
October 5th, 2012
9:06 pm
Thats crap!
Kevin Chop
October 5th, 2012
9:06 pm
I will never watch another MLB game again
Burtin Lonnie
October 5th, 2012
9:06 pm
Joe Simpson, please give the good fans of Atlanta that pay your salary a break. Listen to tonight’s game play back. There is probably a good reason why your microphone was turned down. Another lost season.
Jesus H Christ
October 5th, 2012
9:06 pm
Worst. Call. Ever.
But an equally horrible performance by the Braves.
The call wouldn’t have mattered if the boys had brought their “A” game. 3 errors in the biggest game of the year?
Thankfully we didn’t have to see the Cards celebrate on our own field. Please, somebody fire Fredi, and dump Uggla ASAP.
ylojkt
October 5th, 2012
9:07 pm
Worse call ever in post-season history. Worst “series” idea in post-season history. Selig is a joke and this one game play-in will most likely be a one year aberration. Sadly, it has to be the Braves who lose with this joke of an experiment.
Blazerdawg
October 5th, 2012
9:08 pm
BF – will root for your Giants. Will always remember them helping the Braves in 82 & 91 against the Dodgers. We gave Joe Morgan a key to he city!
BigJake
October 5th, 2012
9:08 pm
What a joke – first the umpire makes a bad call, then MLB denies the protest and allows the absolute worst call in baseball this year stand. Now, to our discredit, we played a sloppy game, and the fans that threw stuff on the field were classless, but with a chance to get back in this game, the LF umpire failed on two points – that it was an infield fly rule due to the SS getting to the ball within reasonable distance, as well as calling it immediately.
Fact Check
October 5th, 2012
9:09 pm
Atlanta fans should tune out the Playoffs for the rest of the season to protest the bad call. Just like Hrbek pulling Gant off the bag in 1991 WS and the 5 foot strike zone friar Eric Gregg gave Livan Hernandez in the NLCS… that changed the complexion of the game. CALLING ALL ATLANTANS TO AVOID WATCHING PLAYOFF BASEBALL FOR THE REST OF 2012.
PLEASE PASS THIS TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS, REPEAT IT ON BLOGS, EMAIL THE MESSAGE.
If you are a Braves fan, you know we have been jobbed for years by MLB umpires.
Leo
October 5th, 2012
9:09 pm
Braves fans were disgraceful ,PERIOD
Johnny Vaught
October 5th, 2012
9:09 pm
We can complain about the umps all we want, but the Braves’ undoing was their own – shoddy fielding and a lack of hitting with runners in scoring position, which has been a problem all year long. Say so long to Chipper, Bourn, and who knows who else …
English Speaking White Guy
October 5th, 2012
9:09 pm
Joe Simpson is a pimp for MLB. He owes the Atlanta fans an apology.
Big Flavor
October 5th, 2012
9:09 pm
And for those defending the atrocious fan behavior tonight you’re just displaying ignorance. It was a bad call. Is that the first bad call you’ve ever seen? Should all fans be allowed to toss all their debris on to the field to protest a bad call now?
It was embarrassing behavior from a fan base that, based on that obsession with the chop-thing, doesn’t really surprise me.
Jack
October 5th, 2012
9:09 pm
You knew Uggla was a defensive liability when you signed him. He was brought on for his bat. It can’t be a big surprise when he butchers a ground ball in a big game. He had 3 errors in an All-Star game.
Ken Stallings
October 5th, 2012
9:10 pm
MLB by rule has 24 hour to make an official ruling on the protest. Given the obvious need for speed, I believe the ruling will be made within an hour. The Cards have to know very soon because they need to catch a plane for Saint Louis and get ready for Sunday’s game one of the NLDS or a Saturday afternoon resumption of this game with Simmons on first and one out bases loaded.
KansasKiddd
October 5th, 2012
9:10 pm
Oh, come on now, guys. Having lived in StLouis, Denver, Seattle, and Atlanta….trust me….if one has to live in a city as crummy, corrupt, inefficient, and decaying as StLouis…..one deserves a decent baseball team, as payback. It’s one of baseball’s marvelous anomalies that a city as lousy as St Louis Missouri, gets to enjoy a winning team. Since everything else there, is in a losing tailspin.
fan
October 5th, 2012
9:11 pm
Well, you sure could say Simmons played a key role in the game!
dawg tired
October 5th, 2012
9:11 pm
Same story all year. Runner in scoring position stranded,errors, lousy hitting, lousy managing. The infield fly call was just icing on the cake.
Frank Wren = made no moves, got the same thing (nothing).
Big Flavor
October 5th, 2012
9:11 pm
I do love Jason Heyward though. He was a freaking STEAL in the 9th round of my fantasy draft this year……..
Brave new world
October 5th, 2012
9:11 pm
Thank you Chipper Jones and Dan Uggla for those “oh so special” throwing errors! You two cost the Braves a trip to the Divisional championship.
Class act Braves fans. You just proved all the national criticism of Atlanta fans. Grow the hell up!
BrandonLee49
October 5th, 2012
9:11 pm
Fans only Reacted adequately to the Lame Umpire Crew… Atlanta Fans are Not ashmed Nor should they be… They Expected PROFESSIONAL MLB Umpires, what are these guys Leftovers from the NFL Replacements….. SORRY – A____ CALL. and the calling simmons Out at first Base….. Another Questionable call against the Braves… Hope the Cardinals get to get Their Crew with them through-out their next round… I Hope the Nationals Kick their A____ back to St. Louis.
who cares??
October 5th, 2012
9:11 pm
Braves baseball (smh) Thank goodness for David Justice or we would still be loserville!
FRMTHEBLECHRS
October 5th, 2012
9:11 pm
Thank you Chipper Jones for playing the game the way it was supposed to be played. NO steroids and playing hard and hurt when your team needed you. You deserved better from your fans tonight. Way to go Atlanta fans, stay classy.
john
October 5th, 2012
9:12 pm
I have all respect for the St Louis Cardinals. Yeah–we screwed up on three plays. BUT–I am proud of the fans of ATLANTA BRAVES FANS. I”m 55 years old and have watched thousands of games and of course a HUGE Braves fan THAT IS THE WORST CALL OF ALLTIME! ALLTIME! ALLTIME! How can that happen- how can that happen— The only intent for the infield fly rule is to prevent a double play flop from an infieder==on a ball in the infield–The ball was 40 ft in the outfield. Think KOZMA–was trying to get two on that play–HE COULD NOT EVEN GET ONE.. Hate to see it end for Chipper. 2nd greatest Braves player of all time. Henry is my idol–grew up watching Henry- how many players have you ever seen walk up to the batters box and put their helmut on while in the box–Henry Aaron==That’s the way I remember him. I watched him when I was very young. BEST of luck Chipper. Thanks for your efforts!!.
Tree rollins
October 5th, 2012
9:12 pm
So long to the Chippa – he will be missed…although I do expect to see him now on a regular basis down at the local Hooters!! Meanwhile, I’ll see all you fans down at the Ted next year for the annual beer-throwing contest!!!
catlady
October 5th, 2012
9:12 pm
Enter your comments here
DB
October 5th, 2012
9:12 pm
The ATLANTA CURSE strikes AGAIN! Falcons will win the division and lose the first round.
Next will be the Hawks……..we always find a way to LOSE!!!
Fact Check
October 5th, 2012
9:12 pm
Tune out the MLB Playoffs to protest the bad call.
RTS123
October 5th, 2012
9:12 pm
Hey folks, errors are part of the game. Umpires calling balls and strikes are part of the game. Umpires making a bad call on a close play at a base is part of the game. An umpire making a call like that is absolutely a disgrace. Niether one of those fools were going to catch that ball and he throws his hands up to signal infield fly when thew both are peeling away from the ball. The umpire needs to be fired for such a idiotic call.
Big Flavor
October 5th, 2012
9:12 pm
By the way, can any of you explain why Simmons was even allowed to hit? Wasn’t McCann still available? Leaving that at bat up to some chump (who popped up weakly) seems like a managerial mistake to me………
just saying
October 5th, 2012
9:12 pm
The braves are hexed
catlady
October 5th, 2012
9:13 pm
Not sure why something so patently incorrect cannot be “protested.”
Name (required)
October 5th, 2012
9:13 pm
I hope that ump dies soon. And painfully
spider
October 5th, 2012
9:13 pm
you just have to laugh at fans stupid enough to spend money on pro sports instead of h.s. and college fans.
M
October 5th, 2012
9:15 pm
GRISE UP!!!!!! GO FALCONS*************************
Steve
October 5th, 2012
9:15 pm
I knew it was over when Chipper made the error. Sad. Very sad!
M
October 5th, 2012
9:15 pm
GRISE UP!!!!!! GO FALCONS*************************
M
October 5th, 2012
9:15 pm
GRISE UP!!!!!! GO FALCONS*************************
Ralph
October 5th, 2012
9:15 pm
I am so tired of hearing people call Atlanta and our Atlanta Braves losers and classless. It was a BAD call, there were errors made, but the passion the fans showed was awesome. Standing room only, 52,000 at Turner Field, that is off the chart. If you don’t like Atlanta, get OUT, leave, go find another city, I LOVE Atlanta, and I love our Atlanta Braves.
Chipper you gave us your all for your entire career. Tell me another player that has done that. There aren’t very many. We fell short, but MOST teams didn’t even get a chance to fall short.
I get really pissed with others talk down about our city and our Atlanta Braves.. If you don’t like it here, LEAVE. If you don’t like our Atlanta Braves, don’t watch.
I am thinking that the way most are talking that YOUR team has already won the World Series. NO ? What happen ? Yeah I thought so……….
Ivaloy
October 5th, 2012
9:15 pm
OK, two things. 1. Chipper, thanks, good player! Not a leader, the retirement saga sooooo long was over done. Fine in regular series but 10 in outfield during playoffs, ridiculous! 2. And this has been a long time coming, Joe Simpson is a condenscending asrse. Has been for a very long time. I believe he is a big drag, boat anchor. Let him go, as he is a joke! I will not listen to him anymore. John S, where are you?
M
October 5th, 2012
9:15 pm
GRISE UP!!!!!! GO FALCONS*************************
Fact Check
October 5th, 2012
9:15 pm
Tune out the MLB Playoffs to protest the bad call. True Braves fans need to strand up.
Let's Go
October 5th, 2012
9:15 pm
From the comments on here tonight I think a bunch of you losers are actually happy the season is over. It doesn’t matter if they played bad a true fan sticks with them no matter what. It was a great year, yes the new playoff format sucks but the Braves had a good year and that’s all that matters. All you junvenile half wits out there, turn the lights off, it’s past your bedtimes.
Adrian's Devine
October 5th, 2012
9:15 pm
I guess you can call the infield fly rule on the warning track just as long as an infielder goes out to try to catch it.
It would be funny if the protest was upheld.
Big Flavor
October 5th, 2012
9:15 pm
I’m shocked at how many of you are whining about bad calls and some kind of curse against your team. Are you aware that umpires make bad calls all the time? It doesn’t just happen to the Braves? lol.
Rob In Fayetteville
October 5th, 2012
9:15 pm
Hey, look on the bright side everyone – it only took the Braves one game to collapse, rather than an entire month.
Thanks for keeping the misery to a minimum this year, Braves!
Smith
October 5th, 2012
9:15 pm
I now know how the Green Bay fans feel!
Joe Wiz
October 5th, 2012
9:15 pm
Tough loss Atlanta.The call was bad the fan behavior was classless. Chiper shoud have been making a curtan call instead of dodging bottles and running for the locker room. Go Cards 12 in 12.b
Ken Stallings
October 5th, 2012
9:15 pm
Chipper took the blame in his post-game presser. He also said that the call did not cost the Braves the game but was a judgement call. He also said, “You won’t be able to say that Braves fans don’t care!”
ZHIT
October 5th, 2012
9:15 pm
Apparently tonight all was fixed for give the W to the Cardinals…. thanks retarded umpires for sucks and blown the ATL season…. never ever i heard about one protest works in baseball.. wasted of time only….
Thanks Chipper for throw the ATL season to the trash 5-0 : K, GO, PO , GO., Reach in error???? …..oh yes!!!! and your error COST THE ENTIRE BRAVES SEASON!!!!!!!!
Thanks Andrelton Simmons for left your team down when you are “the best defensive SS” , THANKS for play like a little leaguer running out of the line….
Thanks Uggla for make a fagot throw to 1st …… Thanks Bourn for be a big joke ,,,good luck in WASHINGTON.or whatever you gonna play the next season….
homer berg
October 5th, 2012
9:15 pm
Wish I could ask Skip Caray to explain the infield fly rule tonight
Vel Crow
October 5th, 2012
9:15 pm
Use some Vaseline next time Kevin Chop and it will go in easier next time. You should be use to getting screwed by now. The Braves have screwed the fans for years. Bend over and take it like a man and ole Fredi and Frank will make you feel good next spring when they blow smoke up your asses next spring. Have a good night
Ebenezer Snerdberg
October 5th, 2012
9:16 pm
TED, IT’S A GOOD THING NO ONE (TO MY KNOWLEDGE) HAS EVER DIED FROM ANAL/CRANIAL INVERSION!
SEE THE REST YA’LL IN APRIL!
bp
October 5th, 2012
9:16 pm
Terrible call but we lost this game because of errors by chipper, simmons (twice)counting his boneheaded baserunning and uggla. Uggla and Bourn are useless.Mac needs to go and take Bourn and Uggla with him.l
Si
October 5th, 2012
9:16 pm
NBA admitted the Hawks were cheated by refs last playoffs and now this.
wow.
me
October 5th, 2012
9:17 pm
The fan reaction should show how bad of a call this is. This isn’t Philly or some other city where those types of things happen frequently. Honestly how many times in the past 20-30 years do you remember seeing something like this in Atlanta? That alone should show how horrible of a call this was, it was the worse call I have ever seen, it wasn’t a bang/bang just a terrible absolutely terrible inforcement (or lack there of) of the rule.
mbjones
October 5th, 2012
9:17 pm
Braves choked again. Pitching was decent. Got twelve hits. Our defense was horrible. I cant stand the heartache that the Braves give me. Post season just never pans out. Still a life long Braves fan but this hurts. Umps call was horrible. But the game turned when Chipper threw it into left field. Potential double play ball. Personnaly i think if they turn two there it settles Med-dog down and braves cruise but this is the so-called playoffs.Braves just cant seem to get over the hump. Id rather not make it to playoffs than lose like this. Any cities fans would have littered the field, so dont feel bad Atlanta. Whatever. Its football season.
oldmike
October 5th, 2012
9:17 pm
what a miserable ending to e completely unsatisfying season. We’ll get Fredi again next year. Some minor tweaks and perhaps another chance to lose a playoff series on our home field. I think I am done with rooting for this sorry franchise. How can you turn 12 hits into 3 runs? And ground balls to the infielders into 4 runs. Oh wait I know. It’s the hat tipping Bravos team.
smallmouth6
October 5th, 2012
9:17 pm
Mark, I agree. Get the message to Joe Simpson if you can at his new team next year—I hope.
Fact Check
October 5th, 2012
9:17 pm
Braves fans turn off your television… No MLB playoffs to protest the bad call.
ricocarty21
October 5th, 2012
9:17 pm
This is what you get when you put the whole enchilada on the back of a forty year old Chipper. Bad planning on the Braves part does not constitute an emergency on the Cardinals part. The braves got sand pounded up their rear end and deservedly so!!! Mistakes equals loss!! Lack of focus equals loss. Braves equal loss!!! To bad , they won on paper, but not on the field!!
Brownie
October 5th, 2012
9:17 pm
Wow, all the Bizarros are on this blog tonight. And why do people feel they need to send the same message countless times??
OK, this game was lost by bad throwing errors, timely (but very little) hitting by St. Louis, and no clutcch hitting by Atlanta.
As far as the OUTfield fly rule call….yeah, one of the worst calls ever. But, my question is why didn’t the home plate umpire simply overrule the LF line ump? It was obviously wrong to everyone except the moron who made the initial call. Fredi should’ve taken the HP ump to watch the replay – easy one to overturn.
Tennisbrave
October 5th, 2012
9:17 pm
Same ole Braves – one and done.
That Dude Says...
October 5th, 2012
9:18 pm
People are bashing our fan base? Imagine what it would of been like if that call would of been made in this game in philly against the phillie’s how bad it would of been.
Delbert D.
October 5th, 2012
9:19 pm
Okay, time to focus on football.
Jim
October 5th, 2012
9:19 pm
Reminscent of Ron Gant in Minnesota 1991.
i am right
October 5th, 2012
9:19 pm
this just in from skip carey, braves suck, braves suck, braves suck!
Go Braves!!!
October 5th, 2012
9:19 pm
WORST CALL IN THE HISTORY OF BASEBALL.
sam
October 5th, 2012
9:19 pm
Got a text from a buddie from New York after that infield fly rule call. (A Yankee fan, totally neutral on our game.) He said there would have been a riot if that call was made in New York. We’re both old men, and he said, and i agreed, that’s the worst call we’ve ever seen. That’s how bad that call was folks. You’ll be hearing about this the rest of your lives.
Big Wally
October 5th, 2012
9:19 pm
Unfortunately Wren has doomed the franchise for years because of the ridiculous salary he gave Uggla. You can’t trade him, unless your going to pay most of his salary for the team he goes to. We just did that for Lowe. Wren has to be ran out of town…..Along with Simpson. Your the embarrassment to Atlanta. I hope TBS and Fox Sports kick your sorry butt out of here.
Jim
October 5th, 2012
9:19 pm
Reminscent of Ron Gant in Minnesota 1991.
Go Braves!!!
October 5th, 2012
9:19 pm
WORST CALL IN THE HISTORY OF BASEBALL.
Eric Gregg
October 5th, 2012
9:20 pm
Yeah, it looked like the IFR was in effect to me.
mitch
October 5th, 2012
9:20 pm
I hope all you Braves haters get ticket for 30 in a 35mph zone
Roy
October 5th, 2012
9:20 pm
Not sure if i blame the fans the wrost call i ever seen. The fans paided lots of money and should expected more from MLB. The umps should have all met and talked it over or maybe called the commish to see if it could be overturned.
ed
October 5th, 2012
9:20 pm
You win some games/you lose some games. The problem is that officials should not ever influence the outcome of a game. And, if they screw up a call like that, they should have the character to make it right. Yes, an infield fly could be called all the way at the warning track, but the extremely late nature of the call is a clear violation of the rule…hence the protest should be upheld.
Fact Check
October 5th, 2012
9:21 pm
Turn off MLB playoffs.
hunter55
October 5th, 2012
9:22 pm
#1 Chokers of all time
Big Flavor
October 5th, 2012
9:22 pm
Jesus, one bad call and you all throw yourselves on a collective sword? What did you do from ‘91 to 2005 when they were busy failing to meet expectations over and over?
Growing up I liked Gary Matthews.
oneflapdown77.com
mokyfellow
October 5th, 2012
9:22 pm
The game is over. Forget about what happened on the field. Don’t forget that the fans acted like a bunch of spoiled children. Some Braves Fans owes all of baseball an apogily for their needless actions.
I was born and raised in Missouri and was a diehard Cardinal Fan. Later in life I moved to Atlanta and became a Braves supported. For the last 50 years I have lived about halfway between StL and Atl. I root for both. Yes, tonight I was rooting for both teams. At 75-years old, you can do that.
BC
October 5th, 2012
9:22 pm
Joe Simpson needs to resign immediately so he can find a job with another organization. He should have just kept his mouth shut, but he went on and on trashing the people who have to listen to him every night. I will not watch a single TV game next year if Joe is apart of the crew. Hello Jim and Don, i will be listening to you.
just saying
October 5th, 2012
9:23 pm
The Braves are Jinxed
BOHICA
October 5th, 2012
9:23 pm
BOOOGER- WHERE ARE YOU?????
Braves= biggest chokers in sports history. 1 title in 14 tries, then last year, now this. Could they have kicked the ball around and thrown it into the stands any worse???? CHOKE!!!
And bases loaded with 1 out isn’t that different from 2nd and 3rd (and then bases loaded) with 2 out. They still needed a hit that they NEVER WOULD HAVE GOTTEN ANYWAY, so BFD!!!
GaryinBham
October 5th, 2012
9:23 pm
Thanks, Chipper. Get on with life.
Disappointed, but it’s over. We just lost. Meanwhile, there’s important work to do–. HATE THE ST.LOUIS CARDINALS and wish ‘em evil. We’ve got a team to curse into next week. Despise ‘em. Flat tire on the bus, weird injuries while shaving, Unstoppable nosebleeds. Whatever it takes to CURSE ‘em. Out in the next series, humiliation even better. Grounders right in the jewels.
Go ANYBODY else.
Massive hemorrhoids for Matt Holliday and a GIANT BOIL on Adam Wainwright’s pitching hand.
And I hope Anheiser Busch gets bought out by a bunch of Brazillians or, worse, Belgians. Huh? Oh, already happened.
I feel better.
Chill
October 5th, 2012
9:23 pm
The Atlanta Braves in an Elimination game. What did you think was going to happen????????????
Fact Check
October 5th, 2012
9:23 pm
Things will change in Atlanta when fans stand up and hit MLB where it counts… In the pocketbook. Turn off the playoffs. Don’t watch the playoffs on TV.
i am right
October 5th, 2012
9:23 pm
what? you suck, you suck? Thank you.
emmmm kay.
Ivaloy
October 5th, 2012
9:24 pm
Time to cut the mustard and get some gamers,like the the Cardinals. The laid back Chippers have caused us to become a bunch of laid back losers. Sad, very, very sad. And a long time coming…. Errors, errors, errors!
NorCal Brave
October 5th, 2012
9:24 pm
Terrible call by the ump, atrocious behavior by the fans, and a Braves team that played like…..well the Braves. Not one hit with RISP, 7 left stranded in final 3 innings, and saving their worst defense for a do-or-die game. 25 out of 29 ESPN sportswriters picked Atlanta to win tonight; Have they actually seen any Braves games this year?
Don
October 5th, 2012
9:24 pm
Braves, please move to Winnipeg, you bunch of perennial chokers.
smallmouth6
October 5th, 2012
9:24 pm
You right wingers on here–some of you refuse to leave politics out of baseball–get ready for another loss on Nov. 6th.
Hol-Broken!!!
October 5th, 2012
9:24 pm
An obvious gaffe by Holbrook and shame on the other umps for not overruling him and getting the call right. I guess he will be driving up the umemployment rate soon. What a joke of a call, especially in the post season. Shame on MLB!! Atlanta fans showing emotion ??
Good for them. If you don’t like it – don’t sell $7.50 beers at the game, hypocrites!!
The reality is the Braves have been MLB worst in batting with RISP and #1 in stranding base-runners, especially with 2 out. Tonite, Cards got 2-5 (.400) with RISP and the Braves go (1-8) .125 and strand 12 runners.
I liked the fight I saw, and that gives us some hope for 2013. We’ve got to do more baseball (steals, bunts and hit-and-runs) to score more runs with < 2 outs. Bobby Ball got us again in the post-season.
dave
October 5th, 2012
9:24 pm
I really think that Bud Selig has destroyed baseball the way he has run the game the past couple of decades. Nothing more than a puppet for the owners. Seriously a 1-game playoff after the Braves finished 4 games ahead of St. Louis? Absolutely bogus. Should have been a best 3 out of 5 series.
No instant replay? What a joke. Letting the Yankees buy their way into the playoffs every year? That revenue sharing in baseball is working out real well. Baseball is going into the toilet like every other sport. Too much player turnover, prices are too high. I used to enjoy baseball but I can’t watch it anymore.
Joe Wiz
October 5th, 2012
9:25 pm
Worst call EVER!!!!!!!!! what? Don Denkinger 1985 World Series….called safe at1st out by a whole 3ft.
i am right
October 5th, 2012
9:25 pm
whif, whif.
Brave new world
October 5th, 2012
9:25 pm
Okay, the Braves have let us down again. Two major league (no pun intended) errors by two of the highest paid members of the roster.
Can the Braves PLEASE take the money from Chipper and Uggla’s contracts and get some competent infielders? When we trade McCann(N’t) can we get some young, powerful offensive players?
Good grief! What does it take for this club to find some young, talented hitters who can also catch the freakin’ ball?
BTW, kudos to FG for benching McCann tonight. Ross was a ‘hoss’ at the plate tonight.
Don
October 5th, 2012
9:26 pm
smallmouth6, then enjoy another 4 years of total misery and further decline of national morals, ethics, and pride.
mpimentel
October 5th, 2012
9:26 pm
You all will see the red birds winning the ring again (I say you will, because I won’t see anymore this sold out maffia playoffs)…that ump and his collages were sold tonight…and maybe chip too!…yes maybe hgip careless jones too!!….I’am oficially retired of been a braves fan, I’m tired of this common chokes playoffs performances over and over again.
Hol-Broken!!!
October 5th, 2012
9:26 pm
Oh yeah and the defense collapses at the wrong time. I think I’ve seen that In Atlanta in October a time or two.
i am right
October 5th, 2012
9:26 pm
fire wren and co.
Ken Stallings
October 5th, 2012
9:26 pm
Folks, the Cards’ shortstop gave up on the play and immediately looked at Holliday (left fielder). It is therefore clear that the shortstop heard a voice yell, and I am sure he thought it was Holliday calling him off. However, Holliday had given up on the play and got out of the shortstop’s way. So, the voice heard yelliing was the left field umpire.
Without that happening, would the shortstop had caught the ball? Entirely possible.
The fact also that the shortstop pulled off on the play concurrently with the left field umpires’ out call, seems to confirm what happened. This being the case, it could be argued that the Braves derived some benefit from the brutal call in that failure to catch the ball allowed Uggla and Ross to advance to third and second base.
BTW: I normally would never inject politics into this blog, but good grief, the Obama latest attack ad is just too much!
Tommy
October 5th, 2012
9:26 pm
Hey, no whining about a screwy infield fly call; you can’t commit three errors and have any hope of winning against a team of professional ballplayers, especially in a game with stakes like this one. There’s enough evidence in the books to safely say that the Atlanta Braves cannot play big boy baseball. They simply just cannot do it. The Cardinals know how, though. Pathetic.
mitch
October 5th, 2012
9:26 pm
mlb off
Big Flavor
October 5th, 2012
9:27 pm
and by the way, I’m starting to think that the Brooks Conrad thing is the conspiracy, not the *umpires are all against us* paranoia
oneflapdown77.com
since day one
October 5th, 2012
9:27 pm
“P” stands for PERFUNCTORY.
Only an *asterisk*, at best.
(Got my tickets for the ‘82 playoffs in the MAIL ! I knew this was a bad scenario 30 years later.)
Big Dawg
October 5th, 2012
9:27 pm
Fact Check,
I like that idea. I will tune out the playoffs for the rest of 2012. Tired of being hosed every few years by bad calls.
sal
October 5th, 2012
9:27 pm
Man, some people down here are so stupid. I can’t believe anyone would have the audacity to bring Obama into this. I guess there are so many stupid people down here brainwashed and manipulated by FOX Noise into voting against their own economic interests. Disgraceful and sad.
SenoiaDawgs
October 5th, 2012
9:27 pm
The Braves defense lost the game plain and simple… HOWEVER,
That was the worst call ever. I couldn’t believe Joe Simpson was saying that crap. He should resign immediately. Yes it was classless what the fans did but plain and simple they were right.
MLB can go to H$LL I will not watch any of the postseason for darn sure. The greedy players and the UMPS thinking they are god in MLB has me so disgusted with my used to be favorite sport. The fact that six guys couldn’t come together and make the play right is just a disgrace.
The fact it was called right before the ball hit the ground makes it even worse that never happens.
ylojkt
October 5th, 2012
9:27 pm
I agree with all of the discussion regarding Joe Simpson, he should be out of here as the Braves announcer after dissing our fans. Not only do I agree with the reaction, I was proud to see the passion of our fans!
I would have been there doing the exact same thing if the game wasn’t sold out except for SRO tickets by Monday, instead, I bought tickets for my family for Sunday’s game. What a disappointment for all of us to not be able to see Chipper play again.
drew
October 5th, 2012
9:27 pm
Did anyone really think the “choke Braves” were gonna win this game????
Same old song again…they simply aren’t in the same league as the other playoff teams.
Oh well…college football!!!
barbuck
October 5th, 2012
9:27 pm
The call was pathetic, but that’s not what lost them the game. Giving up 4 runs due to 3 errors, and leaving umpteen men on base (as usual), is why the Braves lost. By comparison, as of the 8th, the Cards had left only 1 MAN on base!
Big Wally
October 5th, 2012
9:27 pm
Exactly BC. The other two announcers were not bashing Atlanta….that idiot Simpson was.
Tree rollins
October 5th, 2012
9:27 pm
Braves were uninspiring all season – this one game season-ending fart was an appropriate finish. The humongous beer slinging debacle was the Braves fans getting 10 years of frustration out of their system and it’s the first sign of passion I’ve seen at a Braves game in years – Bravo!!!
DaveinNEPA
October 5th, 2012
9:28 pm
The only thing I have to say about this game is that I seen it coming a couple of months ago.
I can’t remember a time this season when this team actually HAD TO WIN a game and actually did, so today’s outcome doesn’t surprise me.
Disappointed yes, but not surprised. I expected it.
Mark
October 5th, 2012
9:28 pm
The Braves lost this game with uncharacteristic horrible defense! Kris Medlen deserved a better outcome, anyone who thinks he should not have started is insane and has not been watching the Braves this season! Stop blaming Fredi, the players lost this game. The infield fly ruling was one of the worst calls ever and should have been overruled by the head umpire, screw Joe Simpson, the fans had every right to express their displeasure! This new wildcard format is a joke! 94 win season over after 1 bad game…disgraceful! I wont watch another game this season.
Seth From DC
October 5th, 2012
9:28 pm
I’m a Nats fan and I always love to take my kids to the games when the Braves come to DC since the visiting fans are so good-natured — unlike Philly fans. I was actually rooting for an extra-innings game to wear out the pitchers. However, it’s a shame that a one-game playoff is marred by one of the worst calls I’ve ever seen. The Braves also didn’t do themselves any favors with the errors but the umps really made an outrageous call.
i am right
October 5th, 2012
9:28 pm
fredi worms uo huddy waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too late.
Ken Stallings
October 5th, 2012
9:28 pm
Joe Torre is heading up the post-game presser and it looks like the decision has been made by Joe Torre to disallow the protest because Torre is deeming that it is a judgement call.
So, Torre has officially disallowed the protest already, and it is his call to make. So, the game is official and the Cards win.
Mike Franklin
October 5th, 2012
9:29 pm
I have NEVER seen such a horrid case of poor umpiring in MLB!
hat tip to those fans in the stands who displayed their dismay and anger at such an outrage. What B-S!!!
i am right
October 5th, 2012
9:29 pm
up
since day one
October 5th, 2012
9:29 pm
I, too, am glad the fans threw stuff. Wish they had rioted. This crud is not addressed without civil disobedience. Bring OWS and the Muslim Spring to MLB !
Big Dawg
October 5th, 2012
9:29 pm
Te Atlanta movement is beginning: MLB OFF!
Rob
October 5th, 2012
9:29 pm
David, I’m surprised you didn’t call out the home plate umpires mistake of granting a timeout even though Loshe had already started his motion. That should have been a strikeout thus negating the homerun. I’m sure it was an oversight on your part.
Mr. Snarky
October 5th, 2012
9:29 pm
Sigh…looks like I don’t have to worry about losing a lot of sleep over the Bravos this month.
That was the worst call ever, but throwing junk on the field just made Atlanta fans look like a bunch of jerks.
No Soup for you!
October 5th, 2012
9:29 pm
Glad to see Larry go! Overhyped! Just like the Mets series years ago. Choked when we needed him. Such a choker! Hope Ugly , Burger King, and Bourn are all gone after this year! Nice clutch hitting michae1
The sad true
October 5th, 2012
9:29 pm
the sad true it’s that: After all Chipper Jones was only a good player in REGULAR SEASON ,, then sucks in playoff games… please tell me except the 2 homeruns vs Colorado in the division series in 1995 please tell me another awesome performance in playoffs by Jones???
NO was uggla or mccann ,,,WAS OUR “HERO” who throws this game to the garbage ( WITH UMPIRES HELP) ……
FREDI GONZALEZ MANAGED TERRIFIC THIS GAME,,,IT’S NOT HIS FAULT
GT23
October 5th, 2012
9:29 pm
Situational hitting is a BIG part of baseball. Errors aside, the Braves had a chance to even the score had the right call had been made! This play was an error by St. Louis that could have been just as much of a swing play in the game as Chipper’s throwing error! The situation for the next hitter had a bigger impact! They were able to pitch around McCann as a result of the call. I told my son that I would walk McCann and face the next hitter. I coach High level Travel baseball 16-18U and this would be a gift to me as a coach! I would have walked the dangerous hitter and get out of the inning every single time! That’s what they did, inning over! Good coaching from the Cards to bring in the closer during the break. Braves got the shaft! MLB has a big problem on their hands! This call killed a probable game changing inning.
Zac in Tempe
October 5th, 2012
9:29 pm
Waiting for riot coverage, anyone flipping cop cars?
since day one
October 5th, 2012
9:30 pm
FIRE JOE SIMPSON (and joe biden, too.)
Mittrock O'Bomney
October 5th, 2012
9:30 pm
Sad for the Braves especially Chipper … they deserved better than this disgraceful ending.
I bet MLB over-reacts to this fiasco by either putting replay on everything (slowing the game down even more) or expanding the wild card play in to a best of 5 series.
The one thing I like about the play-in format is that it restored some importance to winning your division. Teams than sneak in as wild cards shouldn’t get to play a division winner in a best of 5.
Ken Stallings
October 5th, 2012
9:30 pm
My personal view remains that it was a brutally bad call to make given that there was no chance for the Cards to make a double play.
It was also just announced that Frank Wren withdrew the protest. That is very interesting since the GM pulled the protest and not the manager, which is the normal outcome.
Dela Solenas
October 5th, 2012
9:30 pm
Thanks Atlanta for making a stand on a terrible call. I don’t care that we lost as long as we made a stand, Go FANS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tree rollins
October 5th, 2012
9:30 pm
Whattttt???? The Cards win – now I’m maddddd!
Ron
October 5th, 2012
9:30 pm
I hate winning a game just as much as losing a game based on a umpire’s call. What a bummer tonights game turned out to be. Poor defense but when the third baseline umpire made that late infield fly call what a disaster. Two umpires are added to hopefully get more calls right. WRONG!!!!!!
The more I watch baseball bad calls the more I HATE the game.
Baseball has taken the wind out of my sails. Loved the smell of grass cut on diamonds.
The smell of the leather of gloves. Popcorn in the stadiums. What a wonderful game ruined by poor umpiring.
Sad!!!
Playoffs!!!
October 5th, 2012
9:31 pm
I’m glad the Braves fans finally are showing some emotion—-they have been too laid back for years.
Horrible call—-I would have liked to have seen McCann up with the bases loaded. Then, Mott couldn’t have pitched around him. And the Braves get that OUT back and extend the inning.
i am right
October 5th, 2012
9:31 pm
im robbie coleman and im stupid as the umps!
Dawg Bite
October 5th, 2012
9:31 pm
Well, let’s see…. USA blows the Ryder Cup. Braves blow the playoff, and Murray will probably give it away in Columbia. Not a good sports week for this old Dawg! However, maybe we will prevail in Columbia. Jackets have owned Climpson as of late, so maybe a double dip for the State of Ga after all? Stranger things have happened before!
mid wicket
October 5th, 2012
9:31 pm
Yeah it was the worst call I have ever seen but….. Let’s face it the Braves THREW this game away… Pun intended
BuzzCapra
October 5th, 2012
9:31 pm
I have been a Braves fan since 1967….this one hurts almost as much as Game 7 of the 91 World Series, but we have a good young team and bad calls are part of the game….St Louis had their own in the 1985 World Series against the Royals and that cost them a World Championship. St Louis is a class town and great organization….good luck against the Nats
Winston P
October 5th, 2012
9:31 pm
To heck with ‘em! MLB OFF.
Wes Jorga
October 5th, 2012
9:32 pm
No long term contract for McCann, Let Ross start
PJ
October 5th, 2012
9:32 pm
Braves still suck, bad call or not.
hunter55
October 5th, 2012
9:32 pm
Bad defense can’t hit with men in scoring position, and a history of choking, case closed!!!!!So long Chipper, good player but no hall of famer never did anything in post season games that stands out, and he played in alot!!!!!!!
hunter55
October 5th, 2012
9:32 pm
Bad defense can’t hit with men in scoring position, and a history of choking, case closed!!!!!So long Chipper, good player but no hall of famer never did anything in post season games that stands out, and he played in alot!!!!!!!
CA
October 5th, 2012
9:32 pm
How many times have you seen bases loaded with no our end with no runs being scored? No one knows what could have happened.The Braves could have gone on and scored 12. It was sad to see the team lose, for their sake and the young fans. The pathetic fans who threw the trash basically stated, “Hey, kids, we don’t care what kind of role models we are. We don’t care about you.” You did a great job, participants, of putting on a show. If you don’t like it, too bad. You ruined it, and probably scared, many of the young fans. You are classless, and good for you for losing. You deserve it.
Sick & Tired Of Being Sick & Tired
October 5th, 2012
9:32 pm
WOW….when I saw fans throwing stuff on the field I thought I had tuned into a Philly game by accident instead of the Braves…..just saying!!!!!
Bill
October 5th, 2012
9:32 pm
Obviously, the key to putting together a good team is to emphasize really bad grooming….some of those Cardinals players have the worst looking beards I’ve ever seen. Now Freeman is on his way for us in that department,and Hanson too…so apparently there is hope.
dawgs2004
October 5th, 2012
9:32 pm
I’m not surprised at all about the loss. Has come to be the norm in the playoffs for the Braves. Yeah it was a horrible call but would’ve lost to NATS anyway.
Playoffs!!!
October 5th, 2012
9:32 pm
MLB umpire are just not that good. They miss close calls all the time! And this one tonight, wasn’t even close.
since day one
October 5th, 2012
9:32 pm
Sal, YOU are disgraceful and sad. It IS sad that the Fascist nihilist might get back into destroying America.
Cardinal Fan
October 5th, 2012
9:32 pm
Didn’t Torre earn his MVP as a Cardinal? Is there a connnection?
Oren Spiegler, Pennsylvania
October 5th, 2012
9:33 pm
Today, I am embarrassed to admit that I am a lover of professional baseball, and for that, I can “thank” the dozens, if not hundreds of thugs masquerading
as fans that attended the “Wild Card” playoff game involving Atlanta and Saint
Louis at Turner Field on Friday, 5 October.
At the turning point of a thrilling game in the eighth inning, a terrible call
was made by an umpire which could have cost Atlanta the game.
What ensued was a national disgrace: dozens, if not hundreds of attendees,
many no doubt fueled by alcohol, pelted the field with debris, including cans
and bottles, placing the umpires and players in fear for their safety. Whatever
security was in place was unable to quell the disturbance, which continued
for twenty minutes, during which the game was suspended.
Is this what we have come to, that when an umpire, a fallible human being,
makes a mistake, albeit a critical one, outrage and mayhem shall follow? What lesson are the
adults (in age only) who lost their tempers and sacrificed their
dignity providing for impressionable children who watch the games?
I wonder if any of the hooligans believe that the Braves, particularly
superstar third baseman Chipper Jones playing his last game in a stellar
two-decade career, wanted
their season to end (and Jones his career to conclude) with this humiliation, whether any of them considered
a near-riot to be a splendid show of support for the hometown team.
I have traditionally thought of boxing, hockey, and football as blood
sports whose foundation is violence. Must we add “America’s pastime”
to the list?
David
October 5th, 2012
9:33 pm
October 5, 2012
The Office of the Commissioner of Baseball
245 Park Avenue, 31st Floor
New York, NY 10167
Re: Braves vs Cardinals 10/5/12
Dear Commissioner,
My name is David _________. I am 45 years old and have been an avid fan of baseball for 45 years.
As of October 5, 2012, due to the horrible idea of the one game playoff and the horrible call by the officials in tonight’s game I am done with baseball.
Regards, David
Fact Check
October 5th, 2012
9:33 pm
Who is with us? Tune out MLB!
Roscoe P. Coltrane
October 5th, 2012
9:34 pm
It’s called Adversity.
Good Teams overcome it.
Roscoe P. Coltrane
October 5th, 2012
9:34 pm
It’s called Adversity.
Good Teams overcome it.
Ivaloy
October 5th, 2012
9:34 pm
Please fire JOE SIMPSON. He is a very arrogant announcer. what is the deal? Do we have to suffer through him again next year? Please go……
Rob In Fayetteville
October 5th, 2012
9:34 pm
Tommy,
There’s a reason why the Cards are world champs and the Braves are perennial chumps. The Braves keep doing the same thing every year and hope to get a different result, while the Cardinals adjust and do the right thing, playing smart baseball. They never get in their own way. How cool would it be for the Cardinals to repeat as world champs AFTER losing Pujols? I wouldn’t bet against them….
Lamar
October 5th, 2012
9:35 pm
Freddie Mexican Gonzales IS THE WORST MANAGER IN BASEBALL, NO, HE HIS PATHETIC!! Time after time this year, he made CRAZY, YES CRAZY CALLS, (Like the bunt in the 6th) ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE!! But this was just one of MANY SORRY CALLS THIS YEAR!! IF the braves don’t fire him, THE STANDS SHOULD BE EMPTY, Bobby Cox would have taken the 2011 and 2012 braves to THE PROMISE LAND!! GO BACK TO MEXICO FREDDIE, WHERE IS YOUR GREEN CARD??? I HAD TO QUIT WATCHING THEM THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF HIM!!
Tree rollins
October 5th, 2012
9:35 pm
Dan Uggla – who better than that to make your last stand at the plate? The biggest bust in all of baseball is our last hope. What, we didn’t have a pitcher available to pinch hit??
mpimentel
October 5th, 2012
9:35 pm
Congrats bud selig another stupidity made it by you cost badly to the ones who really cares THE. FANS!…everyting comes against you, a best winning record team are out, and an ump bad call was the highligth tonight. Taht’s beacuase you negative to introduce to the game a replay…f@c# you
THE TRUE
October 5th, 2012
9:35 pm
the umpires deserved one glass bottle throwed by the fans hit in they butt-heads…..
Jake
October 5th, 2012
9:35 pm
Protest upheld. They go back tomorrow and resume play
Mike Jones
October 5th, 2012
9:35 pm
Joining the protest! MLB out!
RoyU
October 5th, 2012
9:36 pm
Medlen deserved much better!!! Ownership and upper management got more than they deserved!!! The Braves team went as far as their overall talent reasonably should have taken them!!! Now they should trade Medlen to a team where his talents might get him to a championship!!! They deserved to lose today but not with the rip-off they encountered by the umpiring nor the subsequent lack of support and lip service that I am certain is forthcoming from MLB top management. Medlin came out too early, Simmons should not have bunted, and this icing on the cake should spell a well deserved managerial doom for Fredi!!! The players tried and fans can ask no more than that from them!!! No “Wait until next year!” It’s going to take much longer than that!!!
jimbeam
October 5th, 2012
9:36 pm
jim holbrook you idiot.
Thank you Chipper Jones!
October 5th, 2012
9:36 pm
Braves protest has been denied. The season is over. And the Chipper Jones Era is officially over. I grew up watching the 90s Braves and Chipper Jones with my pops. Those memories will forever be cherished. Thanks Chipper!
maybe next year
October 5th, 2012
9:36 pm
Not sure if anyone here knows the infield fly rule, but its a ball and infielder can catch, does not matter how deep the ball is. He was clearly underneath the ball calling for it. Doesn’t matter if he can turn a double play. The umpire made the call late that is why it was a bad call.
Headlines is an idiot
October 5th, 2012
9:36 pm
A: if it had been called against the cards you’d have done EXACTLY the same thing…or worse…St Louis isn’t exactly the home of Miss Manners…
B: the umps were idiots and called a really, really bad game – they should be fired – it looks like they had it “in” for the Braves because of the non-calls and the botched calls..if you deny that then you are either bilnd or an obama supporter…
C: the Braves blew it: horrible pitching from the best pitcher in MLB and horrible D…Uggla MUST GO! Sorry folks, but the team had the deer in the headlights look from the first pitch…
THIS is why we ATL pro sports fans HATE the pro sports teams we have…no heart, cannot deal with adversity, unable to battle through it when the chips are down…the other shoe ALWAYS drops in the ATL.
ATL PRO TEAMS = MEDIOCRITY
And YES, the dirty birds will let us down too…
not even a Braves fan
October 5th, 2012
9:37 pm
The losers tonite……..all the brain dead idiots that trashed the Braves on this blog. Bigger idiots than the fans at the game throwing trash on the field. YOU ARE THE LOSERS!!!!!
i am right
October 5th, 2012
9:37 pm
BLA BLA BLA, MLB YOU SUCK FOR BAD UMPS! THANKS MLB.CRAP
Braves Fan for 55 yrs
October 5th, 2012
9:37 pm
Great broadcasting, especially Joe Simpson, too bad it ended in such a terrible call. The play by play for the first time this yr I did NOT mute it. A great job by professionals. My question is why do Braves fans have to put up with the worst regular season play by play announcer in all of baseball, that is chip caray. He is the worst ever and Braves fans deserve better. Now, lets hope the protest is upheld.
Tree rollins
October 5th, 2012
9:37 pm
4 more years of Uggla – please! And I want him to be our final guy up every game (to help my insomnia problem).
since day one
October 5th, 2012
9:37 pm
Oren, pound sand, puzzy.
David, I’m with you.
Ken Stallings
October 5th, 2012
9:37 pm
The phone call that crew chief Jeff Kellogg did take in the Braves dugout was with Joe Torre. Kellogg wanted to get feedback from Torre about how to handle the situation. Apparently, Joe Torre was communicating in that very phone call that he was going to disallow the protest due to the call being under the purview of umpire judgment.
So, Fredi knew at that moment that the protest would be disallowed.
I will give MLB credit. The two umpres at the center of the call, along with Garagiola and Torre at in front of the press fielding questions. That takes courage. No one in MLB is hiding under their desks over this. I think that’s a reflection of Joe Torre.
tonya
October 5th, 2012
9:37 pm
I love the braves but they didnt play a good solid game….. and yes the call sucked but by throwing trash on the field causing a 20 min delay now they bring in mott wonder what would have happen had the fans not thrown crap on the field and let the game play out boggs probaly stays in to face mccann and who know
CA
October 5th, 2012
9:38 pm
I can’t believe the ignorance of the fans who are saying that throwing things onto the field is a good thing. I saw a few necks turning red as I watched the debris fly. No, I’m not calling georgians rednecks. I have lived her. My kids were born here. Rednecks are everywhere. They were especially present tonight in the form of debris throwing fans, and especially those who condone it.
SenoiaDawgs
October 5th, 2012
9:38 pm
MLB Out here. It’s a disgrace that in this day and age they don’t get it right.
i am right
October 5th, 2012
9:38 pm
agreeded 55yrs!
Brave new world
October 5th, 2012
9:38 pm
9:12 pm just saying “The braves are hexed”
NO, THEY ARE NOT HEXED! They are poorly staffed, poorly run, and too tied to has beens.
NO major league team in their right mind would have kept CJ for 19 years!
Braves fans need to get use to the new reality that players are assets with a limited usefulness, and need to be dumped when their usefulness is over. They are like automobiles; after a certain age they need to be dumped for younger players with more potential (and at a lower cost).
MLB is a business.
atlien052
October 5th, 2012
9:38 pm
Didn’t see the game so I haven’t seen the questionable call yet, but I do know the infield fly rule. Where the ball lands (unless it lands in foul territory) does not matter in order for the infield fly to be in effect. If an infielder can make a play on the ball with “ordinary” effort, then the infield fly rule is in effect. Doesn’t matter if the infielder is in the infield, 10-feet into the outfield grass, 50-feet in the outfield grass, or 100-feet. Doesn’t even matter if an outfielder catches the ball. It only matters if the infielder can make the catch with ordinary effort. This is a judgement call and therefore would not be allowed in any sport (football, basketball, etc) which uses instant replay, nor should it. Again, I haven’t seen the play so I have no idea whether there was ordinary effort or not.
However, I do have 2 other things to point out:
1. A loss in the playoffs by the Braves is a poetic (if not tragic) way for Chipper to go out. He and the Braves have lost so many times in the playoffs during his career it seems fitting.
2. The behavior of the fans sounds atrocious. If Atlanta fans were really that passionate about the Braves (or any Atlanta team for that matter) then they would actually show up during the season.
Braves Dir.
October 5th, 2012
9:38 pm
Eric Gregg is officially off the hook.
extremus
October 5th, 2012
9:38 pm
REPORTER: So Mr. Selig, in the very first single-game elimination wildcard playoff in history, the game, it could be argued, was decided by a, shall we say, “controversial” infield fly rule call.
SELIG: That’s the excitement of that extra playoff round; anything can happen.
REPORTER: Some Braves fans may not feel the same way right about now. I mean, this team beat the Cardinals 5 out of 6 times during the regular season and finished like 5 or 6 games ahead of them in the wildcard standings, and rather than play a series format as has always been the case in MLB, a single game determines the outcome, and under these circumstances no less. Do you really think that’s fair?
SELIG: Hey, it makes us more money and deludes more fanbases into thinking they have some semblance of a chance at a championship. What’s not to like? And besides, I’m the Commissioner; I can do whatever I want!
REPORTER: And what of the Braves’ playing the game under protest? Have you decided whether to overturn the umpires’ call and order a replay of the game?
SELIG: No way! In MLB we honor our traditions, and one of the biggest ones is backing the decisions made by our umpires, even if it means cancelling out somebody’s legitimate perfect game like I did Galarraga last season or not giving a team a fair second chance on a blown call, as with the Braves here. Time-honored tradition; it’s what gives baseball that special “charm”.
REPORTER: Um, having a one-game playoff isn’t exactly a MLB tradition…
SELIG: Sure it is! Our biggest tradition is making revenue, and if the game gets hurt along the way, hey, eventually the fans always come back and get over whatever their huff is. They always have and always will, and we just keep the tradition rolling. Ahh, gotta LOVE baseball tradition!
mid wicket
October 5th, 2012
9:39 pm
Well finally the page is turned on the Braves … now without Chipper as the leader. The core of this young team is fine and with a few shrewd moves by FW we are positioned to be challengers for the foreseeable future. So all in all it’s not the end of the world. the saddest thing is that I don’t like ANY of the NL teams left so I will have to root for the A’s …. always liked the underdog
i am right
October 5th, 2012
9:39 pm
fire freddi/wren/john s.
catchthecards
October 5th, 2012
9:39 pm
The Cardinals were the better team tonight, suck it up Atlanta. 4 unearned runs. Easier to blame the umpires than all the boneheaded fielding by the Braves. That was classless display by the fans, bad call or not. Go Cards!
The Truth
October 5th, 2012
9:39 pm
MLB must at least show some kind of remore for the umpire’s call. At minimum, Sam Holbrooks should be removed from the rest of post season and probably suspended for 50 games in 2013.
King Dawg
October 5th, 2012
9:39 pm
See you MLB. Not watching another game this year. Umps blow and MLB does nothing about it. Rise up!
Go Braves!!!
October 5th, 2012
9:39 pm
WORST CALL IN THE HISTORY OF BASEBALL. ONLY REASON FANS SHOULD HAVE STOPPED THROWING CRAP ON THE FIELD WAS IF THEY RAN OUT OF CRAP TO THROW.
David
October 5th, 2012
9:39 pm
Having wings fall off your airplane can be described as adversity. Overcome that.
dilly
October 5th, 2012
9:39 pm
Clutch hitting was absent. Good calls, from the umps was more than absent. Good defensive play was absent. The fans were wrong to throw things on to the field, but I understand their frustration. Some really bad calls by the umps in this game. If Selig had any guts, he would have overruled that call right then and there.He wouldn’t, because he’s too busy thinking up what else he can do to destroy the game of baseball.
Tree rollins
October 5th, 2012
9:39 pm
What this team needs is more black players – you know it and I do too!!
MLB Got What They Deserved
October 5th, 2012
9:39 pm
162 games…Tell 2 teams…play one game to move on….Terrible call since the Reggie Jackson hip shot in 1978…Good thing it wasnt Philly or you would have seen the 9 volts flying. Josie Simpson should go work for MLB with that “embarrassment” he talked about. Maybe he can so somewhere else and work
No Soup for you!
October 5th, 2012
9:39 pm
Please tell me when the Braves have done anything in the playoffs! Just just flat out suck! Always lose! Loser’s
Bravesfan54
October 5th, 2012
9:40 pm
Chipper’s fielding, while often great, has been problematical for the last few years. He has made some remarkable plays at the corner, but a high number of his errors this year have cost games, as did this one tonight. Three years ago he had a fielding percentage of .930 – whoa! Then there was his error in Denver a dozen or seasons back when the Braves had a 9-0 lead. Of course that didn’t let in 10 runs, but the Rockies scored a bunch and the Braves eventually lost not only the game, but home-field advantage. I am NOT questioning for an instant his starting, but I am only saying that errors like tonight’s have always been a feature of CJ’s otherwise outstanding, first-ballot, HOF, career. Along with many head-turning fielding gems, Chipper has committed a shilll-load of costly, game changing errors.
F the Umpire
October 5th, 2012
9:40 pm
For years Braves fans were slammed by broadcasters and the national ‘media’ for not selling out early round playoff games. Now we show up in almost record numbers and protest one of the worst calls in playoff history and we’re thugs? F the National League and TBS for letting that umpire get by with this and for slamming the Atlanta fans – if this had happened in NY, the fans would have stormed the field
TossSweep
October 5th, 2012
9:40 pm
The end result of this game was ironic based on the comments made by Chipper back in September 21st. Talk about Karma.
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/21/chipper-jones-thinks-the-wild-card-playoff-game-is-stupid/
TBbravesfan.
October 5th, 2012
9:40 pm
don’t like this one game playoff.
Ivaloy
October 5th, 2012
9:41 pm
joe Simpson, ATL Braves equal losers. Joe, go somewhere else, you are an embarrassment to our city and franchise. Very sad….
Go Braves!!!
October 5th, 2012
9:41 pm
Hey catchthecards–go pound sand.
Big Wally
October 5th, 2012
9:41 pm
Uggla and Simpson. Please feel free to leave Atlanta. You won’t be missed.
BOHICA
October 5th, 2012
9:41 pm
BOOOGER (aka Mr. D.A.- LITERALLY)- you okay? I’m worried about you. NOT!!!! STFU DA.
IowaBravesFan
October 5th, 2012
9:41 pm
Tired of people complaining about the fans throwing stuff on field. The ump made the WRONG CALL. I’m honestly surprised no one ran on the field and tried to take that guy out. Especially since folks were drunk. As a fan when you get f#cked over by an official who makes a completely wrong call, not just wrong but a non-reviewable play since MLB is stuck in stone ages, you have every right to be angry and throw garbage at the loser who made the call. I will say they let it go one too long. It delayed the game longer than it should have. Too bad Chip goes out like this, just a shame.
CardsFan
October 5th, 2012
9:41 pm
So long to a great player (Chipper). It’s too bad that the game didn’t represent the best in baseball. Too many errors for the Braves.
Tree rollins
October 5th, 2012
9:42 pm
We don’t need a bunch more of these players chasing the tails wagging down at Hooters!
Dan Uggla's Swing
October 5th, 2012
9:42 pm
Sad end to a good season. Sad to see Chipper end it this way. Braves dont make 3 errors, they probably win the game. The blown call did not cost the game, but who knows what might have been had he gotten it right. I am in shock more than anything at the way this game went, sloppy on both sides, yet somehow only the Braves got charged with errors. I wondered out loud if the ump didnt have money on the Cards to win, why would you make that call that late in the play? Well, I can not do anything about it, and getting mad wont help. I hate the feeling I always seem to have at the end of the Braves seasons, but thats baseball. Good luck to your future endeavors Larry Wayne Jones, Jr. And Bud Selig: Go eff your self, and all the stupid rules you have put in place in the last 15 or so years.
Jerry Willard
October 5th, 2012
9:42 pm
Very classless comments to anyone bashing the braves organization.
It was a dissapointing end to a great season and a bad call from the umps.
Still love this team. Go braves.
Tony LaRussa
October 5th, 2012
9:42 pm
Will some one come pick me up on the median? Im drunk again.
Cardinal Fan
October 5th, 2012
9:42 pm
Jake… in your dreams
bitman
October 5th, 2012
9:43 pm
@Oren Spiegler: Put it where the sun doesn’t shine. I was glad to see Atlanta fans finally show some spunk. That call deserved every bit of that.
BrianSC
October 5th, 2012
9:43 pm
I hope Sam Holbrook doesn’t have any plans to come to Atlanta to hang out or go on vacation. It could be a miserable situation for him.
Joe Simpson and Don Sutton should not feel bad for anything that happened tonight from the fans. I heard Don Sutton say that if the fans didn’t stop and the game had to be forfeited, that the fans would take game out of the hands of the players. No Don, the umpires (Holbrook) took the game out of the hands of the players BEFORE anything happened from the fans in the stands.
It is a shame that MLB won’t have the guts to overturn the ruling on the field in the protest and reset the game to where it was when that happened. The bases should be loaded for the Braves. That would mean they would have to overrule the umpires on the field. They don’t have the guts to do the RIGHT thing. Shameful, MLB.
It is a shame to see Chipper go out like this. He cost the team 3 runs on his error. He said earlier on the way to the game that he knew it was time to retire because he wasn’t nervous. Maybe he should have been.
Uggla and Bourn choked tonight offensively. They were not there when the team needed them. I think Bourn’s value has gone down as the season has gone along. He does not deserve an insane contract. Uggla does not produce for the money he is making.
McCann’s injury and struggles this year hurt this team. Hopefully, he gets all fixed up in the offseason and can return to be the impact player he can be.
David Ross is the man! He is a true leader. He plays with heart and passion. He is a leader on this team. He understands what it takes to win in the major leagues and what it takes to win in the postseason.
Constanza NEEDS to be on this team from the start. He can be a great asset for 162 games.
This team was better when Janish played SS than Simmons. Bring back Janish.
Bottom line…Umpires should not be noticed. When they are, they have done something wrong. This umpiring crew was incapable and played too big of role in the outcome of the game.
1-game playoffs are dumb when your whole sport is based on series. During the season every team’s schedule is based on 3-game series. You play three games then move on. In the postseason, you play 3-game or 7-game series. Then, you decide to pull a 1-game thing out of nowhere. DUMB!!!
I could go on and on.That is enough for now.
Hillbilly D
October 5th, 2012
9:43 pm
When players perform poorly, they get sent to AAA. Why does the same thing never happen with umpires?
Edd
October 5th, 2012
9:43 pm
I remember all the years we were out of the playoffs before the allstar break. To make it interesting to the end of the year is better than 24 other teams, just sayin and remembering the really bad days before the 90’s, thanks Chipper for all the years from Macon Ga. on up, go have a great time with your family and friends, thanks for being someone our children have always looked up to and wanted to be like as a team player, can’t say enough how true Braves fans appreciate you and your time, thanks again !!!!
Hooters!
October 5th, 2012
9:43 pm
Larry can head off to Hooters 24/7 now. He is a loser. Which fits right in with Atlanta: loser fans, loser franchises, loser city, in a state that it is such a loser that it is in the tank for loser Willard M. Rumney.
ha
October 5th, 2012
9:43 pm
he did not have his herpes sore going on his lip so the braves lost. BU BYE AHOLE!
Go Braves!!!
October 5th, 2012
9:44 pm
MLB JUST ANNOUNCED PROTEST WAS DENIED> BIG SHOCK> MLB HAS NO NARDS. MLB CAN GO POUND SAND> NOT GETTING ANY MORE OF MY MONEY. DONE.
since day one
October 5th, 2012
9:44 pm
Scrhew MLB. This is like ‘95
94 strike
Didn’t watch (only time ever) in ‘95…………………..and Braves win WS
Drew
October 5th, 2012
9:44 pm
Classless move by the fans??
I thought it was a great move. Shows that the fans are not as laid back as they often are referred to as. The trash would have happened in any stadium at any team.
andy
October 5th, 2012
9:45 pm
Dave we are lucky to have you.
andy
October 5th, 2012
9:45 pm
Dave we are lucky to have you.
Frito Bandido
October 5th, 2012
9:45 pm
Joe Simpson you are an embarrassment, have never heard an announcer
bad mouth his team fans, I think that the fans that throw all that garbage into the field, did not act properly, but for you to continuous criticising was
to much. Hope we do not have to listen to you next year
It's over now.....
October 5th, 2012
9:45 pm
Way to cover the Umpires, MLB – honesty and integrity be damned. Holbook called the Infield Fly ONLY when he saw no one was going to catch the ball (look at the replays). I can’t say that outcome was rigged but the Cards got help when they badly needed it.
old braves fan
October 5th, 2012
9:45 pm
Fire Freddie! Fire Freddie! Fire Freddie!
When Freddie didn’t have the 3rd base coach go talk to Simmons with 1 out a runner at 1st and 3rd let me know the job is big for him. No excuse. Why wouldn’t you go have a 5 second chat with your rookie ss.
That was probably the weakest job of arguing an important call I’ve ever scene. The ball was more than 220 feet from home plate. He didn’t even go mark the spot in the outfield where the ball landed.
ha
October 5th, 2012
9:45 pm
Edd…someone youir kids looked up to? Have fun with your trailer full of illegitimate rug rats. Hero? what is wrong with this world. What a ahole he is.
since day one
October 5th, 2012
9:45 pm
MLB……………goodbye after 57 years
Braves Fan
October 5th, 2012
9:45 pm
hey Rob In fayetville. If you like the cards so much move yo sorry azz to SL cesspool
Ken Stallings
October 5th, 2012
9:45 pm
My last comment on “the call.”
It was a bad call because had the shortstop tried to foolishly flop on the catch, what would have happened is precisely what DID happen — sufficient space for the runners to advance safely (both doing so standing up — not even an effort, including slow footed David Ross to second). So, there was ZERO need for the call as intended in the rule book. So, it remains a brutally bad call — absolutely not needed, and therefore it will remain immortal for its controversy.
However, the Braves lost this game for two reasons — three throwing errors resulting in four runs scoring when accurate throws would not have allowed them to score.
The second, and perhaps in the final analysis even more critical cause, is leaving 14 runners stranded on base and going hitless in about a dozen chances for hits with runners in scoring position.
atlien052
October 5th, 2012
9:45 pm
Just saw the replay…looked like the right call to me. The umpire in left field did not indicate an infield fly until the Cardinal shortstop stopped under the ball. It sure looks like he could have made the play with ordinary effort had he not ducked out of the way to apparently give way to the outfielder.
Ann Landers called...
October 5th, 2012
9:46 pm
You have to be wound pretty tight to be bent out of shape about plastic bottles being thrown on the field during a sporting event.
smallmouth6
October 5th, 2012
9:46 pm
Eric Gregg will NEVER be off the hook. He just has more company now.
GT50
October 5th, 2012
9:46 pm
Good Bye Chipper !!!
Loved You Man!!
A Class Act from Day 1 until the very last out.
Good Bye Baseball.
My dad took me Ponce de Leon Park as a kid to see the Crackers and teach me the strategy of the game. Baseball stats provided me an intro to math, which led to very good things in life.
My favorite team was the Milwaukee Braves as a kid, when they beat the Yankees. Several years later they moved here to Atlanta. Definitely a kids’ dream scenario.
We saw Tommy Aaron hit the first Home Run at Atlanta Stadium, during the first preseason game in 1965.
We saw the double-header against the Dodgers when Koufax and Drysdale pitched. If my memory serves me correctly, the Braves split the double header.
We listened on the radio when Tony Cloninger, a pitcher, hit 2 Grand Slams against the SF Giants.
We went to almost all of the 1966 home games…and my grades in high school dropped.
I’ve been a lifelong Braves and baseball fan. Went to Fenway Park to watch the first Interleague Games against the Red Sox. Watch the playoffs and World Series, no matter who plays. I’ve got hundreds of other Braves memories, but too many to name off quickly.
Hate the NY Yankees.
Watch at least 100 Braves games a year on TV or live.
It’s been fun, frustrating, but always rewarding and a significant place in my life.
After today’s Wild Card Game, my 62 year old body has new adventures in my future.
The “Infield Fly Rule” call ended my lifelong love of the game. An awful call, particularly during MLB’s first “Play-In Game.”
I’ll start following college and pro football closer in September and October…instead of waiting until Novenber. Maybe check out the autumn leaves in North Georgia. And schedule trips and vacations around other things.
Always an optimist…like any other baseball fan. But now my optimism is focused on the other things I’ve missed in life.
It's over now.....
October 5th, 2012
9:47 pm
@ BrianSC – well put!!!
since day one
October 5th, 2012
9:47 pm
I wish the fans had burned the friggin place down…………………………(honor to McGriff.)
JJ Casuals
October 5th, 2012
9:47 pm
Joe Simpson is a condescending jerk. Always has been.
Fact Check
October 5th, 2012
9:48 pm
Anybody else going to stand up and tune out the MLB Playoffs?
We got a movement going!
bitman
October 5th, 2012
9:48 pm
Hey Fact Check -Do you really think The Bad Station or MLB will even notice our absence?
Gman 84
October 5th, 2012
9:49 pm
Braves save their worst for last…all in all pretty much the norm.
Spot a team 5 runs, pretty hard to win. Bad call aside, they had the tying run at the plate the last 3 innings and couldn’t get a hit. Not much else to say. Hope they don’t break the bank on Bourn. Could’ve done this without him. He disappeared down the stretch.
Kevin Chop
October 5th, 2012
9:49 pm
Amen Drew…I loved the passion by the fans. Call me classless all you want but I would throw everything but the kitchen sink on that field after that call.
older1
October 5th, 2012
9:49 pm
can’t blame the fans at all. you spend all that money to watch a team that can’t play under pressure, Chip i hate you went out this way, but your throw cost this game along with Ugglas and Simmons.The ump should be supended for a year. Atlanta sports fans have endured too many bad calls like forever. I’LL BE PULLING FOR THE NATS NOW, THEY HAVE NEVER WON A TITLE. ps every time their is a sellout game on the line , BRAVES lose.
Ryan's Dad
October 5th, 2012
9:50 pm
The spirit of the rule is to prevent trickery to create a double play. In the spirit of the rule it DOES matter that the ball was very far away from the infield. You can watch thousands of games and see very easy fly balls to the outfield with men on base NOT called “infield fly rule”. It is never done. Could be that it happened tonight because the left field umpire had not had any action in the game before this time.
Ashlee
October 5th, 2012
9:50 pm
braves fans are repugnant…as always, when I was at Turner with a rival teams shirt on earlier this year a drunk BRAVES FAN got right in my face and yelled F… You B…., seriously I am a smaller size woman and this guy thought that was totally okay to do and probably even worse is that no one in his group of male friends did anything about it like even move him away from me! Truly LOW CLASS, REPULSIVE, DISGUSTING FANS, and tonight they put it on display for the whole nation to see. I won’t be visiting turner field again, no question about that, they are done getting any of my $$
Fact Check
October 5th, 2012
9:50 pm
You ar just wrong Atlien052
Erik
October 5th, 2012
9:50 pm
Fredi needed to get tossed to more strongly make his case. That was pathetic.
Kevin Chop
October 5th, 2012
9:50 pm
Joe Simpson can kiss my ass. I hope he never steps foot in a Braves pressbox again.
Big Wally
October 5th, 2012
9:50 pm
Lesson to be learned here is to win the Division to avoid the umpires screwing you in a 1 game series. That means keeping Uggla out of the starting line up. Pinch hitting and spot starting should be his role with Braves from now on.
least of the east
October 5th, 2012
9:51 pm
this was almost as bad as last year. give the playoffs to the Cards 2 yrs in a row. the umpires in the playoffs are supposed to be the better ones. that call was nonsense. I have watched baseball for 50 yrs. and never saw an infield fly like that. but in baseball, they let it go through because Joe Torre said there was no time to do anything anyway.
for this ending, better to finish worst in the league and get #1 overall draft pick. they got 1 extra home game and made fools of themselves.
you knew with Fedi and Frank, it would end up badly. no surprise.
scott brantley
October 5th, 2012
9:51 pm
FU(K THE UMPS! FU(K STL! FU(K UGGLA! DAN’S GOTTA GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO NATS!!!!!!!!! SICK AND TIRED OF THE SAME OLD SH!T IN THE POST SEASON!!!!!!!!! FU(K SELIG ALSO!!!!!!!!! THIS ONE AND DONE BS IS BULLSH!T!!!!!!!!!!!!!
baseballer
October 5th, 2012
9:52 pm
who cares, that bunch didn’t deserve being in the playoffs to begin with.
Kevin Chop
October 5th, 2012
9:52 pm
ashlee cry me a river! You Troll!
To everyone that is griping about the fans that threw stuff on the field
October 5th, 2012
9:52 pm
You are all a-holes…this looked like a crap call because it WAS a crap call – the fans knew it…it’s in the Rule Book, so why was it ignored??? THE REFS ARE NOT THE GAME – THE PLAYERS ARE THE GAME!! these damed baseball referees/umpires are the worst, most self-centered, egoists in professional sports!!!! If those guys got out of the stadium w/out a black eye they should consider themselves fortunate – if this had happened in Baltimore, Philly. Pittsburgh, NY, Detroit, LA or Sacremento, those guys would never had made it out of the stadium…i’ll bet they are still at the Ted right now!
ramguy68
October 5th, 2012
9:52 pm
Why do the media groups keep saying it was a controversial call? It wasn’t controversial. Call it what it was and that is a bad call. The ump that made that call should be dismissed from post season games.
bitman
October 5th, 2012
9:52 pm
Anyhow, I’m with ya Fact Check. Seasons over. Nothing to see there. Football time!
NO MORE FREDI
October 5th, 2012
9:52 pm
J J – losers again.
We have been losers since 1995. Just getting to the playoffs means nothing.
Joey J
October 5th, 2012
9:52 pm
MLB Off! No baseball on TV for the rest of the year.
TBbravesfan.
October 5th, 2012
9:52 pm
go falcons go dogs oh well forget ga tech they need a coach to
BOHICA
October 5th, 2012
9:53 pm
Kozma should be a Brave. He’d fit right in!
looper
October 5th, 2012
9:53 pm
Ashlee,
Maybe you ARE a B. Just a thought. It might explain what happened.
maybe next year
October 5th, 2012
9:53 pm
It doesn’t matter if they can drop the ball to turn a double play or if its 220 feet away. The rule is the rule. After the infielder was under the ball calling for it the umpire called infield fly. Will people look up the rule before claiming it was too far away or they couldn’t double him up. Not one of those is a rule. Braves blew the game in the 7th
DaltonBrave
October 5th, 2012
9:53 pm
CHOKE! The call was choked horribly by the field ump as well as the Braves defense or lack of defense sucked as well. Bourn is a huge choke artist as well, striking out with bases loaded to end the inning. Find us a lead off man that puts the bat on the ball. Who’s filling third next year? I can’t say I look forward to spring training, who the hell knows what to expect. A lot of alcohol wasted in the Braves celebration to get to a one game playoff just to choke. Speaking of a one game playoff, who’s wise idea was that? IDIOTIC to have a one game playoff in baseball after playing 162 games a season. Just disappointing all around and I’m not sure what to look forward to with this team next year. To the ump that made the horrid call, hang your sh*t up and don’t return next year, you’re horrible.
DaltonBrave
October 5th, 2012
9:53 pm
CHOKE! The call was choked horribly by the field ump as well as the Braves defense or lack of defense sucked as well. Bourn is a huge choke artist as well, striking out with bases loaded to end the inning. Find us a lead off man that puts the bat on the ball. Who’s filling third next year? I can’t say I look forward to spring training, who the hell knows what to expect. A lot of alcohol wasted in the Braves celebration to get to a one game playoff just to choke. Speaking of a one game playoff, who’s wise idea was that? IDIOTIC to have a one game playoff in baseball after playing 162 games a season. Just disappointing all around and I’m not sure what to look forward to with this team next year. To the ump that made the horrid call, hang your sh*t up and don’t return next year, you’re horrible.
Jo Jo
October 5th, 2012
9:54 pm
Gutless MLB strikes again! Oh well, I hope the next groups of fans facing the Cards will keep up the new tradition and throw their trash on the field. I think it’s very appropriate.
mpimentel
October 5th, 2012
9:54 pm
Besides the reaction to a awfull call …the fans throw their shaem to the field tonight…c’mon how many shokes the ones ( aka the fans), have to suffer?
Braves Fan
October 5th, 2012
9:54 pm
AMEN GT50. I’m done,,,,,,,,,,,,
NO MORE FREDI
October 5th, 2012
9:54 pm
Bye Bye Braves…..
Bourn – leaving for $$
Mac – hope he is traded
Hansen – hope he is traded
Chipper – retired (finally)
Fredi – hope fat boy is fired
Hold on Francona… we are coming for ya! Make it happen Frank!
least of the east
October 5th, 2012
9:54 pm
1 game playoff is a joke. they say winning the division is the key, but the divisions are unbalanced. how is that fair ?.
unbalanced divisions, unbalanced schedules. they can’t extend the season too long and say can’t make division winners wait. why not ?
next year, Braves will end up 4th so this won’t happen again.
JamesS
October 5th, 2012
9:55 pm
The umpire and other umpires are maintaining it was the proper call. Get over yourselves Atlanta. You guys are an embarrassment to sports. That steroid using Chipper didn’t deserve another ring anyways and neither did your dump of a city. Classless idiots.
Stumped
October 5th, 2012
9:55 pm
With all you guys protesting by not watching MLB. Going to pass it around to all my friends on Facebook and email. No Baseball on TV.
since day one
October 5th, 2012
9:55 pm
GT50, I’m with you.
Went to Ponce and saw the Crackers.
Saw Aaron, Cloninger, Torre, etc.
I started the “umpire s_x” on Varga.
Tickets thru the mail in 82.
103 temperature at the 91 playoffs.
Goodbye, MLB
Frito Bandido
October 5th, 2012
9:56 pm
Those genius that want Fredi fire, did he made a bad throw to second base,
or to first base or to home plate, show a hitter in the Braves lined up that can compare to 3 or more hitters from the Cards. Oh I forget Ugg, Brian,
Chipper (last two years)our bench, the lost of our best pitcher and the disappear of Hanson,Jarret. May be Bobby Valentine will do a better job
jones
October 5th, 2012
9:56 pm
MLB is a joke.
Same old
October 5th, 2012
9:56 pm
I’ve watched the Braves, Falcons and Dawgs for 143 cumulative season resulting in 2 titles. This means that in any particular season, there is a 1% chance of one of these teams winning it all.
Those are Lloyd Christmas odds.
GOOD JOB ATL FANS!!!!!!!!!!
October 5th, 2012
9:56 pm
Was at the game: As a lifelong Atlanta fan, IT WAS GREAT TO SEE ATL FANS SHOW SOME PASSION. You liitle girls complaining about it can stay home and watch Dancing With The Stars. That was a HORRENDOUS CALL. Who is to say how the game would have ended? We should have had bases loaded and one out. At some point, you have to make a stand. That call was a joke. Proud to call ATL home! GO BRAVES!
Kevin Chop
October 5th, 2012
9:57 pm
Sam holbrook is the sam UMP that threw zack grienke out after 4 pitches
Dan Uggla's Swing
October 5th, 2012
9:57 pm
BTW, I am screwing over MLB by watching the games on line for FREEEEEEEEE
Eff you Bud Selig. You, sir, are an atrocity to the heritage of baseball. Still, the Braves have no one to blame but themselves, had they executed offensively and defensively, they would have won. Love ya Chipper!, Uggla, hope you land on your feet, somewhere else…
Sid Bream's Leg
October 5th, 2012
9:57 pm
Terrible call but terrible play from our Braves. Things like that can be erased in a best of 5 series, but not a one and out. Thanks for the crappy wildcard setup, Bud “no brain” Selig. You are the worst thing to happen to baseball.
JamesS
October 5th, 2012
9:58 pm
I’m an idiot and I apologize for my stupid comments. I live in my moms basement and have no life.
Sid Vicious
October 5th, 2012
9:58 pm
James,
In reality, we are a great sports town. All our major teams are in the playoffs routinely. We haven’t won many big ones, but we consistently win.
Love to challenge you to a little cage match.., then we could talk about winning.
Bill Martin
October 5th, 2012
9:58 pm
So glad to see Chipper go out on a sour note. This is the guy who cheated on his wife and had a baby with someone else. Can’t stand the guy. Go Cards!!
Billy Beaneater
October 5th, 2012
9:58 pm
As hard as every other Braves loss. And one Joe Simpson is a Jerk, the other is a Hollywood drunk, interchangeable. Gonna meet me in the tunnel and fight? Braves fans were fed up and throwing trash not “dangerous projectiles”. Did you hear what Halliday said about it? “Plastic bottles aren’t going to hurt me. A plastic airplane bottle landed near my feet and that is not a dangerous situation.”
stilldefiant
October 5th, 2012
9:58 pm
Same ole Braves SMH
Erik
October 5th, 2012
9:58 pm
Bobby would have gone absolutely bonkers and made that a bigger scene than it already was. Fredi should have drawn as much attention to it as possible and gone crazy. Weak.
john
October 5th, 2012
9:59 pm
I am so old BUT, I have to say–Thirty freaking years ago, PHIL NIEKRO was LEADING against the Cardinals in the 1st game of the 1982 NL playoffs and lacked ONE F—— out for an official game. The UMPS called for a delay and eventually a rainout and Niekro was wasted for the playoffs–done–series over. He was so good that year. I guess we need to stay away from the Cards..Guess who was managing for the Braves–the same guy that supported the stupid ass call made tonight–Joe Torre–say it ain;t so Joe–C-mon! –He had to back his guys!– Next year Braves fans–
GaryinBham
October 5th, 2012
9:59 pm
The real gut-buster about this is….under the old rules, the stupid Cardinals were eliminated. They slipped in by a breath last year, backed in under a rule change this year aided by a terrible call.
I wish them all the disaster in the world in the next round. Go Nats.
Braves Fan for 55 yrs
October 5th, 2012
9:59 pm
Would love to see a whole Braves playoff series without chip caray, the worst play by play announcer in all of baseball.
Tim
October 5th, 2012
9:59 pm
Shocker! Major League Baseball denies Braves protest.Did anyone actually think they would even consider it. They didn’t count on this when they made plans to add a 1 game playoff. Now that it happened, what a nightmar. they couldn’t make the Cards play more innings tomorrow then play Sunday against the Nats. THAT wouldn’t be fair. I agree with Chipper, might as well just let everyone in the playoffs. Why play a 162 games for this.
Kevin Chop
October 5th, 2012
9:59 pm
This is the night when Atlanta fans said Im not taking anymore bullsh** .
since day one
October 5th, 2012
9:59 pm
Bud Selig, eat my diarrhea filled shorts
Joe Simpson
October 5th, 2012
10:00 pm
Guns don’t kill people. Plastic bottles kill people.
Jlew
October 5th, 2012
10:00 pm
I agree with Chipper. Even though the call was wrong, the errors cost them the game. And the same lack of clutch hitting. Did they strand 12 runners?
Go Braves!!!
October 5th, 2012
10:00 pm
Anybody that didn’t like the fans throwing crap on the field can go pound sand. I am pissed they stopped. They should not have let that game resume at all. These announcers that keep talking about it being inexcusable are arrogant idiots. Fredi should have gotten himself tossed, then he should have stayed in that umps face till he cried like a school girl. That ump should be fired.
Jack
October 5th, 2012
10:00 pm
Every time the reply of the blown infield fly rule is replayed Braves fan, just think: BOHICA, baby!!!
least of the east
October 5th, 2012
10:00 pm
big deal, the fans threw garbage on the field ! what should they do, cheer ? the fans in cities like Phila and NY can’t even behave when their team is winning.
I’ve been to games in those 2 towns are fans are a lot worse.
anyone who doesn’t think so is deluding himself.
the umps can’t do their job and the fans are supposed to remain silent.
may not have mattered , but at least let the Cards get us out. we don’t need umpires helping them. we helped them enough ourselves.
BAD CALL - GREAT ATL FANS
October 5th, 2012
10:00 pm
James S – If you were there, maybe your skirt would have been wrinkled.
Ryan's Dad
October 5th, 2012
10:00 pm
@maybe next year. Why do you never see this call made like this if it truly is the rule. The ability to turn it into an intentional drop and subsequent double play is the reason it is in the rulebook even if not explicitly stated. (Trust me, they drill this into you during umping training)
Jlew
October 5th, 2012
10:01 pm
Wild Card should be best of 3.
Todd grantham
October 5th, 2012
10:01 pm
I hope torre and Holbrook get cancer
ph
October 5th, 2012
10:01 pm
lets put blame where blame belongs. CHIPPER, you lost this one. You can’t make a routine double play, 3 runs score. You come up with a chance to knock some runners in, you fail miserably.
zack
October 5th, 2012
10:01 pm
different year same braves. i cant remember the last time i saw the braves win in the postseason i had to be in middle school or something. if uggla is still at second and gonzalez is still managing, the braves get no time or money from me anymore. it totally sucks to be a fan of this team. if uggla is still at second it shows that management and ownership dont care about this team or winning. if they dont care why should I?
Ed
October 5th, 2012
10:01 pm
Had a nagging feeling all day…
The Cardinals find ways to win games like this and the Braves find ways to lose ‘em.
Guthro
October 5th, 2012
10:02 pm
Braves’ defense was bush league. So was Braves’ hitting.
But the umpiring was as shameful as the behavior of Braves’ fans. Not just the blown “infield fly” call. Many balls-and-strikes calls were incredibly bad.
ATLien
October 5th, 2012
10:02 pm
I’ve never been prouder to be an Atlanta sports fan. Kudos to everyone at the game tonight.
Jack
October 5th, 2012
10:02 pm
The ump that called the incorrect late infield fly rule I understand goes home to a very happy wife who just cashed in for a hundred grand!!!
Derwood
October 5th, 2012
10:02 pm
Okay 2013
first base——Freeman, okay
second base- ABU (anyone but Uggla)
Short stop —–Simmons
Third Base—-Prado
Left field need
center field Contanza
right field Haywood
Catcher Ross
Pitching Minor, Medlen, Hudson and trade for #4 and #5
announcers Chip Carey, Brian Jordan
\
To everyone that is griping about the fans that threw stuff on the field
October 5th, 2012
10:02 pm
@Good Job …dude, tell it!! If this had happened in NY or Boston or Dallas, it would have been called ‘Fan involvement”,,,in ATL, thanks to the pantywaist, pc media, we’re a ‘bunch of rednecks’…typical yankee BS. Whatev…we know it for what it is….
Rowdy Garrett
October 5th, 2012
10:02 pm
Terrible call but as several have mentioned, the bases would have been loaded with one out. Given how pitiful the Braves were this season in getting the hit they needed in those situations, does anyone really believe that the Braves would have actually scored???? When you go thru an entire season of futility in getting key hits in these situations how can you expect to suddenly produce when the chips are down in a one game playoff??? And the play of the infield was on little league level (my apologies to little league for such an insult). Bottom line, Braves played pitiful defense, hitting as usual let them down in key situations and the end result is another bitter loss. Where is Brooks Conrad when you need him???
Todd grantham
October 5th, 2012
10:02 pm
Torre has had it in for the braves since Ted fired him 30 years ago. What a jerk.
HUH?????
October 5th, 2012
10:02 pm
Braves fan serving overseas
Thanks for your service. I’m so sorry you had to watch that awful baseball game.
smallmouth6
October 5th, 2012
10:02 pm
Sam Holbrook, Terry Tata (badly missed a stolen base call with Braves batting and tossed Bobby for his argument in a WS game against Toronto, Braves lost 1-0), and Eric Gregg with his 8-foot strike zone for Marlin’s Hernandez. Can’t remember the umpires name when Gant got pulled off first base in 1991, but he’s in this group too of umpires who under pressure performed poorly.
Joe Simpson
October 5th, 2012
10:02 pm
I am sorry Atlanta fans. It’s that time of the month and I’m a bit grumpy.
HUH?????
October 5th, 2012
10:03 pm
” i cant remember the last time i saw the braves win in the postseason”
Over ten years ago. Just after 9-11.
Bro
October 5th, 2012
10:03 pm
“REPLACEMENT UMPIRES” are now working for MLB.
scope
October 5th, 2012
10:03 pm
Correct call, though “ordinary effort” is questionable. Exactly where did all those beer cans come from? Chipper could have stopped it – don’t think he wanted to. Bravos didn’t deserve to get lucky.
RICHARD
October 5th, 2012
10:03 pm
people around me threw 30 dollars worth of beer on the field . THAT CALL SUCKED !!!!
smallmouth6
October 5th, 2012
10:04 pm
Rowdy Garrett: Guess we will never know.
Sid Bream's Leg
October 5th, 2012
10:04 pm
I agree with Tim. Could MLB laugh and sweep the protest away any faster? The rules of baseball were definitely not applied by the ump, but the MLB heads need to keep the NLDS schedule, so no protests.
GBpack
October 5th, 2012
10:04 pm
So were these replacement umpires? This “judgement” call was worse than the “judgement”call in th3 Packer game. MLB should be more embarrassed than the NFL as these are supposed professionals. While I do not condone throwing things on field I don’t think I or any other pashionate fan of any team can honestly say that we could see that and not be outraged. Infield fly? Are you kidding me?
Sid Vicious
October 5th, 2012
10:04 pm
Where ya at James?
HUH?????
October 5th, 2012
10:04 pm
Chipper, Uggla and Simmons lost us the game. Plain and simple. The pitching was good, the hitting was blah but those errors were awful.
Chipper Jones can now retire at Hooters.
BOHICA
October 5th, 2012
10:05 pm
Braves just made another error.
No Soup for you!
October 5th, 2012
10:05 pm
Losersville! That’s why we brought ugla here! He is the biggest loser bust of all time! See ya you clown! Don’t let the door hit ya in your arrss!
Joe Simpson
October 5th, 2012
10:05 pm
I am the moral voice of Atlanta. You people disgust me. Plastic has no place in the air or on grass.
Bill Donohoo
October 5th, 2012
10:05 pm
Lots of hits, only one clutch hit. Too bad the defense let us down. Would not be here without Chipper.
Great season, I like the one and done. Lots to build on but many questions remain, Uggla, Bourne, McCann are the big ones. Two bad seasons in a row for McCann and Uggla, Bourne horrible second half with too many Ks for a leadoff hitter. Braves still need power hitters at 3rd and LF and a good lead off hitter.
I thought Fredi did decent, better the second half than the first.
MLB has no guts, that call should have been reversed. If MLB had any guts that umpire would not be in any further playoff games.
I cannot fault the Braves fans.
Ned
October 5th, 2012
10:05 pm
Braves fans reacted 100% appropriately to that call. They made the protest for Fredi. In New York, there would have been violence, so the Braves fans reaction was well within what was appropriate for the situation. Braves fans were well within their rights to trash the field after what is probably the worst call in MLB postseason history, and in a one game playoff. That ump should be taken out of playoff ball indefinitely. Obviously not suited for high pressure situations and doesn’t know or understand the basic rules of the game.
Robertwdstk
October 5th, 2012
10:06 pm
Molina your are a jerk based on what you said. ” We play to win and they play to lose”. Take your ass back to St. Louis and you are lucky to be playing a kids game in this country.
Protest the World Series
October 5th, 2012
10:06 pm
Email the league: mlbexecutiverelations@website.mlb.com
least of the east
October 5th, 2012
10:06 pm
until Liberty Media is gone, the situation is hopeless. MLB shouldn’t even allow a corp out of state own a team.
next year, we have no 3B, no CF and a washed up catcher. we have a mediocre GM and a worse manager and still the same owner.
the next WS appearance will be next century. no current living Braves fan will see another one.
Joe Wiz
October 5th, 2012
10:06 pm
What is all this boycot MLB stuff from Braves fans? I thought you have been boycotting for years.Terrible attendance and empty seats at playoff games are the norm for you guys.
12 in 12 Go Cards!
rugburn
October 5th, 2012
10:06 pm
last memory of chipper is trotting to first on a grounder to 2nd. how appropriate.he was a great player but a lollygagger his whole career. the mlb network had holbrook on. he said that he never saw a replay until he went in the clubhouse. they showed him on the field watching the big screen replays. he’s a bad umpire and a liar. joe torre embarrassed himself,but that isn’t really new. the ss never was under the ball, he was drifting and not in line with where the ball landed. that said, we THREW this game away.
Braves Fan
October 5th, 2012
10:07 pm
Never should a playoff game be decided like this. This was not a controversial call it was a huge mistake by an nadequate umpire who should be fired immediately.
Morley Schaffer
October 5th, 2012
10:07 pm
A true disaster that call. No more MLB on television.
Robertwdstk
October 5th, 2012
10:07 pm
I hope your green card gets lost over the winter. What a jerk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Molina
don
October 5th, 2012
10:07 pm
So long Jones.
So long Bourn.
Too bad Uggla can’t follow them out the door.
Drew
October 5th, 2012
10:07 pm
I think MLB has missed out on what the infield fly rule is intended to do.
old braves fan
October 5th, 2012
10:07 pm
Fredi has to be fired. After last year’s September meltdown and the meltdown in this playoff game, there is no reason to bring him back.
braves girl in cali
October 5th, 2012
10:07 pm
Can’t believe Chipper’s last game ended like this…all the “controversy” overshadowed the end of the game and it’s too bad that fans couldn’t say one last proper goodbye to #10. Chipper hurried out of the dugout as soon as he could and that was sad to see.
Regarding the call – my heart is broken about this loss and it hurts A LOT. I’ve followed the Braves for a long time and it’s never easy to lose in the playoffs but this horrible call makes it even worse. I never want to hear the words “infield fly rule” ever again!!!
BigUncTobe
October 5th, 2012
10:07 pm
Bud Selig should resign effectively immediately. Wild Card Team introduced to Play-off system????? No Pennant, but we get to play anyway….No World Series in 1994. All Star Game end sin Tie. Just like there is “NO CRYING IN BASEBALL”; THERE ARE NO TIES IN BASEBALL! Two Wild Card Teams – 1 game “Play-in” April wins don’t mean squat in Baseball anymore. He’s an Owner; not a Commissioner….his daughter owns the team in Milwaukee…YEAH RIGHT. FIRE SELIG NOW! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
Rob
October 5th, 2012
10:07 pm
Torre proves he’s an assclown. He did that for one reason, money. Worst call in playoff history.
Tim
October 5th, 2012
10:07 pm
Agreewith Erik, wouldhave like for Freddi G to have blown up a little more. He didn’t seem to be too bothered. B. Cox would have been ejected after his second word!!
Henry D.
October 5th, 2012
10:08 pm
Bobby Cox was one of the best regular season managers of all time (especially with Maddox, Glavine and Smoltz). He was also one of if not THE worst manager in the playoffs. Freddie is following right along in his footsteps. Until we break that Cox attitude in the playoffs, the Braves will never go anywhere near a world series again.
don
October 5th, 2012
10:08 pm
Jones was out at first base.
Corey
October 5th, 2012
10:08 pm
Grow a pair Joe Simpson! You couldn’t hold Skip’s jock strap.
Big Crimson 75
October 5th, 2012
10:08 pm
Medlin pitched a good game.
The Defense blew this game.
Terry Francona would be an upgrade over Fredi.
The Braves can get better next year. Beachy comes back.
We will still have one the top 5 staffs in Baseball.
Joe Simpson
October 5th, 2012
10:08 pm
I am now embarrassed to say I was embarrassed about the fans of Atlanta. This was a turning point for Atlanta fans, they stood up and let their voices be heard.
rugburn
October 5th, 2012
10:08 pm
the braves fans weren’t reacting badly. they were starting a recycle program to help fund some new players.
Braves Fan
October 5th, 2012
10:09 pm
Joe Torre sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
iopbrave
October 5th, 2012
10:09 pm
braves got hosed; the fix was in ; were those the nfl replacements refs? . TV did not allow the protest. Selig is the worst commish ever.
Fredo
October 5th, 2012
10:09 pm
“I ruled to disallow the protest based on the fact it’s a judgment call,” Torre said
which is funny, when replay comes into effect this call will be overturned every single time and “judgment call” won’t be apart of it. MLB 180s like this about as often as the strikezone 180s during a game
ryan
October 5th, 2012
10:10 pm
That call didnt cost us the since we cant hit with runners is scoring position. The god damm errors cost us the game. Trade McCann ,Hanson, Uggla and Maholm and this team will be back next year.Sign Greinke and BJ Upton and trade for Justin Upton and were ready for Phis and Nats. Oh and fire Fredi .
Robertwdstk
October 5th, 2012
10:10 pm
If Fredi and Frank aren’t fired attendance will be way down next year. Upper management needs to show the fans they are serious about making changes.
Braves Fans Suck
October 5th, 2012
10:10 pm
Some cities deserves championships. Some others do not. After tonight’s display at Turner Field you do the math.
Sid Vicious
October 5th, 2012
10:10 pm
I would love to challenge you to a cage match Joe Wiz. St. Louis is a toilet bowl.
Braves Fan
October 5th, 2012
10:10 pm
Joe Torre and anybody who agrees with him needs to go…………
Art Fowler
October 5th, 2012
10:11 pm
Arttie’s Insight: I have been a Braves fan for more years than I can count, since 2005. There are 5 reasons we lost but still love the Braves: 1) We love to say nah na nah na to get the rally going, 2) we love the never quit attitude that says, “yes we quit…no we don’t!” 3) we are losing to win like all good teams do instead of winning to lose long term, 4) Braves have always been a winning organization and only have top management. I like our chances next year and can’t wait for first pitch. More later. Arttie.
Brandon
October 5th, 2012
10:11 pm
Chipper is a first ballot HOFer, but it was his error that opened up the floodgates and cost the Braves 3 runs and momentum. Coupled with the awful play (both in the field and at bat) by the rookie SS, and you have to face facts–the Braves players, not the umps, lost this game. I’m amused by all the people who keep ripping on the city of Atlanta as some kind of dump though. Atlanta’s downtown is a small part of the city. Plus, I’ve been to St. Louis and no one will confuse it with Paris. One thing St. Louis does have, I will grant them, are sports winners. The Cardinals have more championships than any team save the Yankees (and the best fans in baseball), and the Rams have won 1 more SB than the Falcons, and even when the Hawks were in St. Louis they won more championships. The ATL continues to break our hearts.
don
October 5th, 2012
10:11 pm
The two turning points were the bungling by Jones of the double play ball and the stupid base running by Simmons. Braves choke again.
Braves Fan
October 5th, 2012
10:11 pm
You stink Torre,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
david
October 5th, 2012
10:13 pm
GO CARDINALS!!!!!! 12 in 12!!! thats all i got to say
david
October 5th, 2012
10:13 pm
GO CARDINALS!!!!!! 12 in 12!!! thats all i got to say
Gym Rat
October 5th, 2012
10:13 pm
MLB IS A JOKE. Worst product in professional sports.
jimbop
October 5th, 2012
10:13 pm
Joe Simpson should be fired after his comments. Yes things got out of hand, just a little, and FOR GOOD REASON. It’s not like we are bringing in batteries to throw in a pre-meditated fashion. Bad call that could of cost us the game. Weshould be done with the gentleman way which Mr Simpson thinks is best, where has the got us?
JOE must GO!!!!
Winner
October 5th, 2012
10:13 pm
Wa Wa Wa
Braves lost because their fans are losers.
Trashing the field would never happen in St Louis.
Braves deserve to lose because of their fans.
Umps gave chip a pass on his last at bat, he was out.
Who Me?
October 5th, 2012
10:13 pm
Always a bridesmaid boys….can never seem to get over the hump. This team has no one to blame – including the poor umpiring by a veteran crew – than themselves. Especially Chipper! Waste of a game for him, why come to the park looking exhausted and then playing so poorly?
3 errors did us in, along with a rookie running mistake down the first base line. You can’t make these kinds of errors and win playoff games.
Fredo
October 5th, 2012
10:13 pm
“Sign Greinke and BJ Upton and trade for Justin Upton”
BJ plays Center, where are you putting Bourn? Justin plays right, where are you putting Heyward? Who is replacing Uggla? Ross as the starter and JC Boscan is now the backup?
jimbop
October 5th, 2012
10:13 pm
Joe Simpson should be fired after his comments. Yes things got out of hand, just a little, and FOR GOOD REASON. It’s not like we are bringing in batteries to throw in a pre-meditated fashion. Bad call that could of cost us the game. Weshould be done with the gentleman way which Mr Simpson thinks is best, where has the got us?
JOE must GO!!!!
larry dothan al
October 5th, 2012
10:13 pm
sure it was a bad call that not what got us beat.no cluth hitters and errors what got the braves beat,Uggla need to move on.Braves will not win next year with this lineup.
One-Eyed Mac
October 5th, 2012
10:13 pm
We didn’t play particularly well but it’s hard not to feel cheated on the horrible call. I normally don’t condone fans being unruly, but in this case, I really don’t mind. You knew MLB wouldn’t have the balls to do the right thing. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if they told the umpires to do what they could to help the Cardinals win. Not much you can do now but I do think Holbrook should be investigated. That’s the type of BS call you only think about making when you’re actively trying to help a team win. If MLB doesn’t investigate, it’s only because they’re in on it too.
larry dothan al
October 5th, 2012
10:13 pm
sure it was a bad call that not what got us beat.no cluth hitters and errors what got the braves beat,Uggla need to move on.Braves will not win next year with this lineup.
phil
October 5th, 2012
10:14 pm
After losing five of six games against the Braves during the regular season, the Cardinals won Friday when it mattered most. DOB
************
what’s new for us……
joe
October 5th, 2012
10:14 pm
Let’s talk about the Mets and Phillies in the wild card game. That’s right, neither team made it.
Robertwdstk
October 5th, 2012
10:15 pm
David quick quesion tell Molina to shut his pie hole.
Braves Fan
October 5th, 2012
10:15 pm
I used to like you Joe but ight now I can’t stand you. I woulld love to see you take a lie detector test Fake
To everyone that is griping about the fans that threw stuff on the field
October 5th, 2012
10:15 pm
@joeWiz…PUH-LEEZE, your old 80’s rant about fan attendance does no good here…please go back to Spitts-burgh or Mill-wahkee or wherever in the deep northern midwest you come from…
BOHICA
October 5th, 2012
10:15 pm
Uggla tripped in the shower and broke his collarbone.
X-Chi
October 5th, 2012
10:15 pm
Can you imagine if that call was made in NY or Boston???? Oh geez. Unfortunately more than a bad call ended the Braves season – three errors put ‘em in the hole, and the bad call, and leaving baserunners stranded sealed it. BUT – Great season (just remember, could be the Cubs or Astros who had 100 loses). Not sure what the point of instant replay would be in MLB if they don’t use it to correct bad calls. Joe Torre, bad call on you too.
maybenextyear
October 5th, 2012
10:15 pm
@ryan’s dad. I’m just tired of people making excuses saying the ball was too deep, or they couldnt turn a double play. The fact is he was under the ball calling for it. After watching the replay on dvr its clear the umpire makes the call as soon as the ss calls for the ball and appears underneath the ball. Questionable call, yes but not a totally blown call. Clearly a catchable ball that directly follows the rule of the infield fly.
Sid Bream's Leg
October 5th, 2012
10:15 pm
St. Louis didn’t beat the Braves, the MLB did. Blind and stupid Bud Selig and his umps. Bud still doesn’t think we need replay in baseball. I love baseball and have all of my 47 yrs, but times are a changing. Replay should be an umps new best friend and embraced. It’s not 1867 anymore and the modern game needs modern technology.
rugburn
October 5th, 2012
10:16 pm
now they are laughing at chipper’s lack of speed. most people are slower when they trot…and he was out.
PistolPete44
October 5th, 2012
10:16 pm
Call was correct. The lateness of the call allowed Braves to move up runners. You can cry all you want to but it was a routine ball in the first place. Maybe traveled 150 feet high and 150 feet deep. Not what I call a BIG HIT THERE. Get over it. You made errors. Start looking at yourself. You should have started a veteran pitcher. See you next year.
blackdog
October 5th, 2012
10:16 pm
first
Big Crimson 75
October 5th, 2012
10:17 pm
Latest/Slowest In-Field Fly Rule call ever.
Sid Bream's Leg
October 5th, 2012
10:18 pm
MLB is without a doubt the worst. Stein and Goodell are laughing their asses off and their retarded little step brother, Selig, while they take all his lunch money.
BOHICA
October 5th, 2012
10:18 pm
All of America is having a hearty laugh over how the Braves got SCALPED by one umpire tonight!!! Wooo-oooaaaa-oooooo,! Whooo-aaa-hhhh, oooo-oooo!!! ROLFLMFAO!
Prado4President
October 5th, 2012
10:19 pm
A few comments from the game.
1) Terrible defense played put the Braves in a bad position to win.
2) Despite the bad defense, the could and should be still playing according to this part of the rule: “When it seems apparent that a batted ball will be an Infield Fly, the umpire shall immediately declare “Infield Fly” for the benefit of the runners.” This was in no way, shape, or form called immediately.
3) It’s sad to me to remember Chipper’s last at bat, although ending in a base hit, watching him loafing down the line. I love him, but don’t you want to be remembered for giving it all you’ve got your last at bat?
4) I won’t sleep tonight…sick to my stomach…
old braves fan
October 5th, 2012
10:19 pm
Per ESPN the ball hit the ground 220 feet from home plate. Nothing routine and the play.
phil
October 5th, 2012
10:19 pm
FirenJoe Simpson!!
Sid Vicious
October 5th, 2012
10:20 pm
Trashing the field would never happen in St. Louis, but your star home run hitter crammed enough steroids up his ar&$ to choke a donkey. Whitey Herzog threw a cooler in the World Series over balls and strikes. You are a joke, Loser (masquerading as Winner).
It was a bad call and changed the complexion of the game.
phil
October 5th, 2012
10:20 pm
Try that again….
Fire Joe Simpson!!
BOHICA
October 5th, 2012
10:20 pm
Nothing beats the infield fly rule being called on a fly ball to left field! Bwahahahahahahah! Sucks for you, Braves fans.
Joe Simpson
October 5th, 2012
10:21 pm
I’m embarrassed by this Big Mac I just got in the Drive In at McDonalds.
Eric
October 5th, 2012
10:21 pm
Really Atl? I agree, terrible call. And while they COULD have had a chance, this wasn’t a wrong home run call or a one run game. They were gonna lose anyway. Still had an out left (and the 9th) and did nothing with it. The throwing crap on Chippers last night was a disgrace
IF THEY DIDN'T CALL IT ???
October 5th, 2012
10:21 pm
Here is the standard as to WHY it is a bad call. Had they NOT called the infield-fly-rule and the ball dropped as it did, would there have been anyone saying “Hey why didn’t they call it?” The answer is NO, it would not have been questioned AT ALL. BAD CALL PERIOD. Umps weak at best.
cards rule
October 5th, 2012
10:21 pm
It could be argued the fans lost the game.for the club. The Braves had momentum but the “Bubbaball mentality” of their “fans” caused a 20 minute delay in what was likely an inevitable victory. It was heartwarming to see that those fans were willing to part with their beers for what they felt was close to their hearts. For the “love of the game”
See you in 2013!
Braves Fan
October 5th, 2012
10:21 pm
I have never in 62 years seen a call so bad and upheld by so called experts. I’m through with sports………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
jim
October 5th, 2012
10:21 pm
Why are there foul line umps in the playoffs. There have been a number of occasions where they either got the call wrong or got in the way
Partial list:
Jeffrey Maier game Balt vs Yankees
Dye trie3s to run around a foul line ump and lets Jeter’s foul fly fall. Jerter singles on next pitch to begin Yankiee comeback from 6-0 down in the Leyritz game
A ball that clearly landed fair by Joe Mauer is called foul by the ump
A homerun down the line in an AL plauoff game cannot be called by the foul line ump
Foul linje ump gets in way of fieolder in game at ATT Park (or POAC Bell?)
Holbrook makes a bad infield fly rule call he had no business to make.
The foul line umps cause more problems than they solve. How many plays during a decade does one see where the usual 4 umps get a fqair-foul call wrong down the line? GET RID OF FOUL LINE UMPS IN THE PLAYOFFS.
That protest should have been adjudicated right there during the 19-min. delay for a playoff game. Was it and if so why not let the TV announcers report it?
rugburn
October 5th, 2012
10:21 pm
if it had been a routine fly ball someone would have been within five feet of where it landed
BOOGER
October 5th, 2012
10:22 pm
Mr. Dumas- why can’t the Braves ever win a big game???? WHY oh WHY oh WHY??????
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
Sid Bream's Leg
October 5th, 2012
10:23 pm
As much as I hate what happened tonight at least we aren’t the Cubs.
ryan
October 5th, 2012
10:23 pm
Fredo where you putting Bourn were kicking his ass to the curb.Wainwright said they were going to wait to celebrate till after they beat Braves he knew they were going to beat us thats why we did after we won wildcard we knew we would not get another chance this year.
Traffic Headache
October 5th, 2012
10:24 pm
The throwing of garbage onto the field WAS an embarassment, and Joe Simpson was saying it straight. A bunch of drunk morons with infantile mentality. This is Atlanta, not Cleveland.
That said, the call and Joe Torre’s ruling was pure bull pucky. Yes, Atlanta deserved to lose, and there’s no guarantee that they would have scored and more than one in that inning had the bases been loaded (McCann’s walk would have plated a fourth run before Prado struck out).
Big Wally
October 5th, 2012
10:24 pm
Memo to John Shuerholtz: FIRE THAT PIECE OF CRAP JOE SIMPSON BEFORE NEXT SEASON.
fan
October 5th, 2012
10:24 pm
The Cardinals did not WIN that game, the Braves LOST he game.
Winner
October 5th, 2012
10:24 pm
Was ont a bad call that beat the braves, again, it was the Cardinals, just like last year at this time.
One game, may the best team win, and they did!!!
Whine all you want, was not the call, it was a good call, and a good result,
except for the classless atlanta fans.
really show what atlanta is all about.
can’t take it on the chin, blame it on a “bad” call, blame it on your team and yourselves for not
having a backbone.
Is that what you teach your children, when things don’t go your way, be rude and ignorant?
You deserve to lose, if not for your team’s bad play, then for your fan’s bad sportsmanship!!!
Screwball
October 5th, 2012
10:24 pm
Fredi has to get thrown out of the game in that situation. His lifeless protest there guarantees his firing this off season.
mom3
October 5th, 2012
10:25 pm
Why was Simmons bunting with the pitcher coming up anyway?!?!?!??
Winner's Mom
October 5th, 2012
10:25 pm
My son sure does spend a lot of time in the bathroom
Sid Bream's Leg
October 5th, 2012
10:26 pm
Fredi has to get thrown out for arguing. There’s no way any manager that’s worth his salt stays in the game after that call. Jesus would get thrown out for arguing that call, but not Fredi. Wonder if he really cared that much.
CC
October 5th, 2012
10:26 pm
Someone should check that ump’s bank account. There’s too much money riding on sports and I wouldn’t be surprised if he’d been paid to make a bad call. It’s too obviously wrong. Something smells really bad here. MLB should be ashamed and immediately institute a recall system, including for calls like this. Tradition means nothing if one ump can change the outcome of a game.
Corey
October 5th, 2012
10:26 pm
The umps can’t get it right. Joe Simpson can’t get it up… I guess that’s why he sympathizes with them…. Traitor! Maybe the Dodgers will take him back.
since day one
October 5th, 2012
10:27 pm
As my last moment after 50 years of an MLB fan……………………
“Next caller:”
“Skip, could you explain the in field fly rule?”
Winner's Mom
October 5th, 2012
10:27 pm
Should I be worried that my son likes to wear women’s clothing?
Drew
October 5th, 2012
10:27 pm
Freddi should have been ejected. The umps didn’t eject him because they knew they screwed up on the play.
Screwball
October 5th, 2012
10:27 pm
Joe Simpson wasted 20 plus years,of credit with Braves fans in one five minute controversy. Sorry Joe. Good bye.
Tip O' the Cap
October 5th, 2012
10:28 pm
Ouch. Just ouch. Ashamed by the umps, chumper, and even the fans! Wow. Just a piss-poor game all around. Time for some serious bourbon and a few days off. Take care, everybody!
Ken Stallings
October 5th, 2012
10:28 pm
If you had read the revision in O’Brien’s blog report plus the comments made immediately after the official presser after the game, then you would have realized that the protest was officially ajudicated during that delay and that was the phone call taken by Jeff Kellogg in the Braves’ dugout.
Joe Torre, who as the MLB Vice President for Baseball Operations, has the duty to make ajudication on protests, decided to disallow the protest and called the Braves’ dugout during that extended delay and inform Fredi Gonzalez of his decision.
Jeff Kellogg took the call notifying him of that disallowance of the protest, and then hung up and told Cardinals’ manager Mike Metheny of the final decision. This is why the Cardinals immediately opened up the champagne after winning the game — they already knew the Torre decision.
And as I reported earlier in this blog commentary section, during the MLB press conference after the game, Torre stepped away from the table and took a call from Frank Wren. Wren notified Torre that the Braves were withdrawing the protest anyway.
john
October 5th, 2012
10:29 pm
IF THAT IF THIS IF CHIPPER HAD NOT MADE THE ERROR MAYBE THEY HAD A CHANGE TO WIN GAME . GO TO SLEEP AND HAVE A BETTER YEAR 2013
john
October 5th, 2012
10:29 pm
IF THAT IF THIS IF CHIPPER HAD NOT MADE THE ERROR MAYBE THEY HAD A CHANGE TO WIN GAME . GO TO SLEEP AND HAVE A BETTER YEAR 2013
john
October 5th, 2012
10:29 pm
IF THAT IF THIS IF CHIPPER HAD NOT MADE THE ERROR MAYBE THEY HAD A CHANGE TO WIN GAME . GO TO SLEEP AND HAVE A BETTER YEAR 2013
Interested Bystander
October 5th, 2012
10:29 pm
You know the people that have always criticized Chipper for his mistakes in life should feel that karma caught him a bad way. I don’t just sayin
Winner
October 5th, 2012
10:29 pm
stupid is as stupid does…
Sid Bream's Leg
October 5th, 2012
10:29 pm
Biggest myths of TV:
Reality TV is truly real
MLB umps aren’t on the take
MLB umps have no influence on the outcomes of games.
go cocks
October 5th, 2012
10:29 pm
I don’t know where this call stands in the three worst calls in the history of baseball: 1) Jim Joyce’s call 2) Jeffrey Maier or 3)the infield fly call. The three worst calls in the history of baseball.
wtf
October 5th, 2012
10:30 pm
The infield fly rule was created to PROTECT the team on offense, in order to prevent the defense from being sneaky and turning a double. But instead of helping the team on offense in this case, it was used to screw them over.
It’d be like calling back a touchdown pass in the NFL because the defense committed pass interference. It makes no sense.
MLB screwed the pooch. They got so consumed by their own hubris, that they defended the letter of the rule without realizing how grossly they perverted the spirit and intent of it.
john
October 5th, 2012
10:30 pm
I HAVE NOT BEEN ON TODAY
blackdog
October 5th, 2012
10:30 pm
agree with derwood
Winner
October 5th, 2012
10:31 pm
Was not the umps that lost the game. it was the braves, just as last year.
excuses excuses
tell yourselves that all winter looooong
GT92
October 5th, 2012
10:31 pm
The worst call I have ever seen in following baseball for the last 35 years.
I don’t blame anyone in attendance for throwing things on the field. When an atrocious call like that happens, what do they expect? Don’t forget who pays your salary.
Not Again
October 5th, 2012
10:31 pm
Face it, folks. This organization just cannot produce when it matters. Sorry to see Chipper go, but he disappeared every October just like the rest of the lineups on those teams. His level of play today was pitiful. Frankly, he looked a lot like Obama the other night: rather disinterested. Uggla canot be a Brave next year. But, in the end, folks like Dave O’Brien dimply waste their time reporting on and concerning themselves with things like off-season moves and acquisitons with this team. Cuz’ at the end of the day it doesn’t matter. They will win 90 games next year and continue the decdes long routine of being great enough to be good, but not good enough to be great, and will be quickly eilimnated from any postsason they are fortunate enough to make. So, whats the point??? This is why you shouldn’t give a f_ _ ck about the Atlanta Braves.
john
October 5th, 2012
10:31 pm
SICK SICK CRY ALNIGHT
Davey Sprocket
October 5th, 2012
10:31 pm
Boo Hoo. Now you can add another chapter to Team Lore. Plenty of teams get the shaft – Orioles with that punk reaching into the field of play in the 96 playoffs, among many, many others. Just. Hit. Better. See?? Easy Button. Ya’ll were last in the league in batting with RISP. Fix tht before you cry a river…
@Big Crimson – Beachy may get a hald-dozen starts next year. And, if Wren lies and says he has a “plan” like he claims he had for Medlen, he might get 140 innings in 2014. Not the makings of a dominant staff for NEXT year, eh?
since day one
October 5th, 2012
10:32 pm
“………..Wren notified Torre that the Braves were withdrawing the protest anyway.”
Fire friggin Wren
Ken Stallings
October 5th, 2012
10:32 pm
Joe Simpson was right in saying the situation was an embarrassment. It was, and the fans should not have thrown objects onto the field. Joe Simpson is paid very well to do what he does and he’s a good man. It angers me to see people posting on a blog taking personal shots at him.
I understand what the fans did. But, if I had been at the game, despite being upset by the call, I would not have thrown anything on the field. Those who did are exposed to criminal arrest and prosecution. So, for those saying the fans were right, that ought to close the discussion.
Carrying out a criminal act is NEVER the right thing to do!
Mike
October 5th, 2012
10:32 pm
A bad call, but nowhere near the call the Packers got shafted with two weeks ago.
Sid Bream's Leg
October 5th, 2012
10:32 pm
We need Robert Fick back.
Winner
October 5th, 2012
10:32 pm
Cardinals=Winners
braves fans =whiners
just like last year
Cards won, braves lost
long winter, huh
whine yourselves to sleep
Carl Farvman
October 5th, 2012
10:33 pm
“now they are laughing at chipper’s lack of speed. most people are slower when they trot…and he was out.”
Not that it matters, but, yes, the replay shows he was out.
Drew
October 5th, 2012
10:33 pm
Projected lineup for 2013?
Mark in mid-town
October 5th, 2012
10:33 pm
I think the infield-fly rule should be changed as follows. Still call the infield fly under the same criteria — however don’t make it an automatic out. Change the rule so that only one force out is allowed if the ball is not caught, but that force out would still have to be successfully executed. That would take away any incentive for an infielder to let the ball drop on purpose so as to get an easy double play. And in a situation such as tonight, calling the infield fly on that play would not have bailed St. Louis out as they did not have the ability to execute even one force out. That way, there is no consequence if the umpire mistakenly calls an infield fly such as tonight. In other words, the infield fly would protect the team at bat from the infielder deliberately allowing a pop-up to drop; however it would not reward the defensive team if they managed to botch catching a pop-up.
Maverick
October 5th, 2012
10:33 pm
if MLB was not so GREEDY to have a one game wild card playoff, then this game would not have been as important as it was.
Dick's Dungeon
October 5th, 2012
10:33 pm
The IFRule states the umpire must “immediately” invoke the infield fly rule. That certainly did not happen. Torre said you cannot question a judgement call, but this was not a judgement call – it was an extremely LATE call, and should have been overturned. Yes, the Braves played sloppy defense; and yes some of the fans behaved like goons throwing cans and bottles on the field. But the umpires allowed their icompetence to unduly influence the outcome of the game. Surely Major League Baseball did not want to see the game completed on Saturday.
since day one
October 5th, 2012
10:33 pm
BURN !
Maverick
October 5th, 2012
10:34 pm
Winner – Stop being a weiner.
jim
October 5th, 2012
10:35 pm
The horrible call aside The Braves gave this game away with their play in the field. They turn an easy double play in the 4th the score is still 2-0. Not a single ball hit out of the infield in the 7th, but 2 errors a botched play at 1B and 2 more runs. Only 2 earned runs for the Cards (but only 1 without the Chipper error and a DP.) Some moron on page 1 was blaming Fredi for starting Medlen, but the pitching was outstanding — 6 hits and no walks 1 HBP to that lineup. Only 1 truely merited run.
If Fredi called for a safety squeez in the Braves’ 4th, then that call needs to be questioned with Freeman on third and the pitcher on deck.
Winner
October 5th, 2012
10:35 pm
It was not the umps call that lost the game.
It was the Cardinals who won thegame, just like last year,
get over it
Sid Bream's Leg
October 5th, 2012
10:36 pm
If I had been at the game it would have been hard not to throw something on the field. Here at home I didn’t throw anything, but I did scare the cat with all my yelling.
ww
October 5th, 2012
10:36 pm
Glad I turned it off after the fifth inning. The Braves were not playing well, and then the refs apparently started to make stuff up….this is why baseball has died, and football is a better product, even though I love the Atlanta Braves. I can read the aftermath, but the product is just not watchable.
Lexster the Dexster
October 5th, 2012
10:36 pm
Hopefully they do not put a playoff pennant on the outfield wall for this one and out debacle!
Prado4President
October 5th, 2012
10:37 pm
I’m so disappointed in Chipper’s last AB…my last memory of him is of him not busting his butt down the line when it could’ve potentially been the last out in a playoff game…I know he got a hit, but show some heart and hustle!
ylojkt
October 5th, 2012
10:37 pm
Betrayed by Joe Torre? WTH?
Imagine if this had been a 7 or 8 o’clock game? Then everybody would have been a bit more toasty and chaos would have been imminent.
I am proud of our fans showing up – regardless of a bad time that was only given out with two days notice. MLB is the one who screwed us here, bad starting time, bad umpires, bad decisions, stupid one game play-in game rendering every series win this year meaningless. It all makes me sick.
One-Eyed Mac
October 5th, 2012
10:38 pm
The only reason there are foul line umpires in the playoffs are because umpires get bonus pay for playoff games and they have a union.
Prado4President
October 5th, 2012
10:38 pm
Who turns off a big game in the 5th inning? #notafan
Prado4President
October 5th, 2012
10:38 pm
Who turns off a big game in the 5th inning? #notafan…
jase
October 5th, 2012
10:39 pm
thank God the Falcons play Sunday. the REAL ATLANTA team will beat the Redskins. The Braves just choke and choke. yet this year the Falcons are showing they care and are serious.
Carl Farvman
October 5th, 2012
10:40 pm
“So glad to see Chipper go out on a sour note. This is the guy who cheated on his wife and had a baby with someone else. Can’t stand the guy. Go Cards!!”
Yeah, perhaps a bit of karma happening. Many fans find a way to sweep this stuff under the rug, but it doesn’t go ignored by all.
Corey
October 5th, 2012
10:40 pm
The infield fly rule is stated: “as long as your p-n-s is longer than Joe Simpson’s and you hold your glove up in the air, it’s in effect”, Why is everyone so mad? I don’t comment much, but I know y’all like that one.
Winner
October 5th, 2012
10:42 pm
it was a good call,
and MLB stood behind a good call.
Atleast the trash throwing braves fans will have something to whine about for the next 6 months
what if, if being a very big word.
Word has it the umps though about changing the call until the braves trashed the field.
then rightly said they do not deserve to win!
Sid Bream's Leg
October 5th, 2012
10:42 pm
I hope Steve Bartman wasn’t at the game.
Winner
October 5th, 2012
10:42 pm
it was a good call,
and MLB stood behind a good call.
Atleast the trash throwing braves fans will have something to whine about for the next 6 months
what if, if being a very big word.
Word has it the umps though about changing the call until the braves trashed the field.
then rightly said they do not deserve to win!
jase
October 5th, 2012
10:44 pm
Winner sounds like a wuss. stfu and stop whining. the fans were AWESOME!!! i loved it!
gaknight
October 5th, 2012
10:44 pm
To the so-called “GT and Braves Fan”. Get a life. Now you blame this on first the media, then political parties and then unions. You give Tech a bad name. The fans were classless; the Braves deserved to lose; it’s just a game. Mistakes will be made. People aren’t perfect; why is it so necessary that the game be fair. This is why soccer (real football) is the superior sport. Fans bitch about calls, but in the long run the game is won or lost; the season is won or lost during the run of play.
ww
October 5th, 2012
10:45 pm
Mike, the bad call the Packers got lost them a regular season game…they can still with the Super Bowl, so it doesn’t really hurt them. They have done it before all on the road.
jase
October 5th, 2012
10:45 pm
gaknight sounds like a retard. soccer fans in england and europe would have BURNT THE PLACE DOWN FOR THIS CALL! THEY HAVE DONE IT FOR MUCH LESS!!!
supa
October 5th, 2012
10:45 pm
Infield fly call = BAD
Braves defense = WORSE
Fan reaction = WORST
I love the Braves like they’re my family, but throwing beer bottles on the field after a bad call was absolutely the worst thing that could have happened. Not easy explaining that to my kids. I was embarrassed too for all Braves’ fans and for my city. Joe Simpson calls it like it is, and that’s why he’s a good commentator.
Hillbilly D
October 5th, 2012
10:46 pm
The Braves were not playing well, and then the refs apparently started to make stuff up…
This is baseball. They aren’t “refs”, they’re umpires.
jase
October 5th, 2012
10:47 pm
QUIT WHINING SUPA. KEEPS YA KIDS AWAY FROM FRIDAY NIGHT GAMES WHEN ALCOHOL IS FLOWING. YOU SHOULD KNOW ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN WHEN BOOZE IS FLOWING. GET REAL BUD.
Prado4President
October 5th, 2012
10:47 pm
I’m one of his few supporters…but still don’t see why Fredi would have Simmons bunt with Medlen up next…
Just depressed…
NO MORE FREDI
October 5th, 2012
10:49 pm
Looks like Torre gets the last laugh (again) for getting fired by the Braves.
NO MORE FREDI
October 5th, 2012
10:50 pm
I love that someone named Hillbilly D corrected another blogger.
Winner
October 5th, 2012
10:50 pm
jase, you mom says it is past your bedtime,
you have to get up early to get to your McDonalds job!!!
Hillbilly D
October 5th, 2012
10:50 pm
The only reason there are foul line umpires in the playoffs are because umpires get bonus pay for playoff games and they have a union.
Wrong. They were using 6 umpires in the World Series in the 1940’s. The Umpires Union wasn’t formed until 1970.
harper34
October 5th, 2012
10:51 pm
I’m a Nats fan, but wanted to take a moment to congratulate the Braves team on a tremendous season. I’m sure it sucks to have your team lose, but I’m envious of all the years your team has reached the post-season. Losing in the playoffs sucks, but at least you’re regulars. The last six to eight weeks have been pretty nerve racking for us in DC. It’s surprising to read so much negativity from the fans — you’ve got 94 wins after all. See you next Spring.
Hicks Hayseed
October 5th, 2012
10:51 pm
Not Wren’s fault, not Fredi’s fault, not even Holbrook’s fault (despite how angry I am about a guy with poor judgment getting paid to make judgment calls–tonight, Greinke, McGwire, etc.). Chipper is finally gone (a “winner”, but only once a champion). Uggla is strictly “you get what you pay for”. McCann has always been a DH who plays for an NL team. On any AL team he’d be a fantastic DH who could catch in a pinch. In the NL he’s a liability, especially if he ain’t hitting like an All-Star. The Braves will have a TON of money to spend next year. Here’s hoping they (for once) spend it wisely.
Sid Vicious
October 5th, 2012
10:51 pm
Adam Wainwright is a known closet h-mo
Hank the Hammer
October 5th, 2012
10:52 pm
No game is called perfectly. According to the strike zone chart on tv, Medlin threw about 20 pitches more due to strikes being called balls. He had at least 3 more batters struck out but the homeplate ump called balls instead of stikes. Would have been the difference of the game if the homeplate ump had been perfect or if some kind of replay or computer had been used to call balls and strikes.
An ump = mistakes. Sad but true.
Bravesgirl
October 5th, 2012
10:52 pm
Braves were Obamaized just like America………………….
Dum-Bass
October 5th, 2012
10:52 pm
Come on AJC, call it like it is. The photo caption says “Chipper hustles”. No he didn’t, he got lucky because he slowed down several feet before he got to first on that final at bat. If he had ran through the bag like we are taught, he would have been safe by a long shot. He gave up on it and assumed he was out. Not a good example. BTW, the entire infield made errors tonight, except for Freeman at first, including the pitcher(Venters). It was a bad call by the umpire by the game was already lost before that. Sad display of major league baseball. Makes it easy now to switch over to the Oakland A’s, so thanks Braves!
Bill
October 5th, 2012
10:52 pm
The fans were not just mad at umps call they were showing their frustration for Braves 17 years of choking. Have not won a play-off game since 2001.
Braves need to get over the BC days and get some new blood from other organizations.
Always love Chipper but he was a big disappointment as he played like he didn’t wont to be there.
Uggla I hope will be gone..for ball bag.
Sign David Wright and get a power hitting RF.If Bourn wants to much $$ get the kid FA in CF with Giants . Get rid of Hanson..ant the fat bench. Trade McCann while you can to AL.
Pope UGA XXIII
October 5th, 2012
10:53 pm
One of the main reasons I don’t care for professional baseball any
longer is all of this wild card nonsense. A sudden death playoff with
the fifth best team making the playoffs ?? Give me a break, please.
If you have to have a four team playoff, take the four teams with the
best damn records. Otherwise, just make it like high school basketball.
Every team goes into the tourney, then maybe the Astros get hot and
win it all.
playmeortrademe
October 5th, 2012
10:53 pm
I would like to think this is the peak of the mountain of crap Atlanta sports fans have had to endure in recent history, but I know the Falcons and the NFL are going to top this somehow. I just know this. I really need to be in Vegas when the Falcons host the NFC Championship. Easy money on the visitor.
NO MORE FREDI
October 5th, 2012
10:53 pm
Tonight I was proud to be a Braves fan. Can’t blame this one on them. They were loud and they showed the world we are sick of this playoff crap. Just happened to be the Cardinals that got 20 years of frustration taken out on them.
Not a fan of our manager and hope Frank will go get us Francona or even Smoltz. I don’t think Fredi can get us to the promise land.
Gary
October 5th, 2012
10:54 pm
FREDI has to be fired………Chippers last game was a complete disater…………all of his years of expreience….why do you swing at first pitch…the pitv=cher is scared of him ..but he swings at first pitch……..i just sick of the obvious….errors…………..
Sid Bream's Leg
October 5th, 2012
10:54 pm
Thanks harper34. Good luck to the Nats. Beat the Cards.
ylojkt
October 5th, 2012
10:54 pm
Ken Stallings – sometimes a criminal act is not only the right thing to do, but the only thing to do!
Hicks Hayseed
October 5th, 2012
10:54 pm
Oh yeah, and then there’s Bourn, who tried like hell the last week of the season to regain the NL SB title (and failed) because it’s the only way he’ll get paid what Boras is telling him he’s worth. Good luck in Philly next year, Mikey.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
October 5th, 2012
10:54 pm
Losing like this would be unacceptable in any circumstance, but for the umpires to enforce a ruling that is clearly wrong no matter what the rules book says. What they did is WRONG and I can prove it……right here, right now.
Had this been game seven of the world series…….the umpires would reverse the call and call it an error and the runner would be safe.
joe
October 5th, 2012
10:55 pm
MLB has hurt it’s product with this idiotic playoff system worse than the 1994 strike. Texas is about to be eliminated too. Two single games in one day lose two major markets. Couple that with Umps on the take and ticket and cable prices out of control. They will lose lots of fans. The trash on the field is a sign of frustration with the paying MLB fans. And we have to listen to pompous goofs like Joe Simpson as well? I have been a fan forty years. I am taking break from this crooked sport. Steroids, monopolies, crooked umps. Forget it.
Tired of the Braves!
October 5th, 2012
10:56 pm
I’m tired on these chokers! UGA, too!
Carl Farvman
October 5th, 2012
10:56 pm
“Adam Wainwright is a known closet h-mo”
What did I miss?
Winner
October 5th, 2012
10:57 pm
Call did not matter
braves lost all on their own…..
Bill
October 5th, 2012
10:58 pm
The O’s are winning over Texas..hope O’s win. They just said after game the would talk to umps in Atlanta and players from both teams.
I’m now pulling for Nationals, A’s and O’s
count_schemula
October 5th, 2012
10:58 pm
“Not easy explaining that to my kids.”
Oh the humanity!
Sid Bream's Leg
October 5th, 2012
10:59 pm
Getting rid of Fredi will help but getting rid of Liberty Media will be the best thing for the Braves to be serious contenders.
Brant
October 5th, 2012
10:59 pm
Fire Joe Simpson. I never want to hear that guy again. He’s a complete traitor for REPEATEDLY calling out Braves fans. He’s the one who should be embarrassed – for not being able to say something new and just repeating his criticism over and over instead. If Joe Simpson is broadcasting Braves games in the future, I’m turning the channel. I hope others will boycott as well.
Big Crimson 75
October 5th, 2012
11:00 pm
We got the pitching next year.
Time to spend a little money.
Freddie is legit at 1st. Heyward in Right.
Singleton at Short. Prado to 3rd.
Goodbye Uggla. Let Bourne walk.
Spend some $$ on a 5 tool LF & CF.
CA
October 5th, 2012
11:01 pm
Folks, somehow you have to get past this. The correct call was made.
Sid Vicious
October 5th, 2012
11:01 pm
You missed the fact that he has paid off two families in South Georgia not to disclose his fetish. It’s a fact.
alex
October 5th, 2012
11:01 pm
Tough ending, wish the fans had not trashed the field-yet one may feel compelled to display anger after such a ridiculous call,after all no one was hit, the bottles are plastic….
Next year, thanks chipper,goodbye and Uggla, NO thanks and get the hell out of dodge,mabye center field-after bourne folded like an accordion (BASES loaded and strike three!!), offer 5-7 mill per year( I cannot believe I wrote that). Need a left fielder.
As for FG, He gets another year,as September was a very good job. Fire FW, somebodies head must roll and he has an excellent head of hair and should land softly…
As for Ted please come back to the TED and buy this team some great players, please
Winner
October 5th, 2012
11:02 pm
He’s right!
goober
October 5th, 2012
11:02 pm
@Oren Speigler~ I agree with your sentiment, however, it does no good to tell fans about sportsmanship because they are rabid and completely unable to be objective and calm when “their team” loses. They are too emotionally connected to see and hear reason.
Sid Vicious
October 5th, 2012
11:03 pm
Adam W is a h-mo
Bill
October 5th, 2012
11:03 pm
CA are you a Idiot? That was not the correct call. read the book.
dre
October 5th, 2012
11:04 pm
Lol. 4 seats for your family, 4 hotdogs and drinks, parking….$750 straight to the pockets of surly baseball players. Chippah throwing the game away and classless rednecks throwing their beer dregs onto the field…priceless. haha
Chipmunk
October 5th, 2012
11:04 pm
While it’s true that was a bad call, the Braves threw away this game on their own. I am also tired of hearing how clutch Chipper is/was.
count_schemula
October 5th, 2012
11:05 pm
“Folks, somehow you have to get past this. The correct call was made.”
Mr. Law & Order over here…
Will10
October 5th, 2012
11:05 pm
Its Ironic that a year ago Sports Illustrated rated Atlanta as the worst sports city in the country. I can’t help but feel this week year after year. Its getting old. What a horrible way to end Chippers career, couldn’t do it for him of Bobby.
count_schemula
October 5th, 2012
11:06 pm
Ugh, seeing Chipper in an post-game Affliction t-shirt makes it easy to see him walk away as well…
Ty Cobb's cleats
October 5th, 2012
11:06 pm
MLB just wants your ticket money. They don’t want to hear displeasure over crappy umps. Hell they used to throw knives at players in the old days, not plastic cups.
Winner
October 5th, 2012
11:07 pm
Yes Bill, lets all go home and read a book
books will get you thru times of no brave baseball
better than brave baseball will get you thru times of no books
Carl Farvman
October 5th, 2012
11:08 pm
Sid, and what is your point?
The Brave Californian
October 5th, 2012
11:08 pm
HATE this one game playoff format! Instead of being able to come back tomorrow and right the ship, the ship is sunk on the very first day of the post-season. And baseball couldn’t have scheduled a 3-game series? So what if the season is 2 or 3 days longer. The reality of finishing well ahead of St. Louis in the win column, and then seeing it all go down the drain in a single game is very unfair, and, as I think Chipper said, it stinks!
Trash Man
October 5th, 2012
11:09 pm
I am so glad the fans trashed the field on that call. The call was blatantly outrageous! The cardinals and their fans can go suck it.
Can’t wait for the NATS to wipe the floor with you.
Bill
October 5th, 2012
11:09 pm
Winner The damn rule book for Mr. CA..smart a@@
Winner
October 5th, 2012
11:10 pm
And chipper might go home and smack his wife around again….
Trash Man
October 5th, 2012
11:11 pm
and furthermore…Mr. Joe Simpson you are a good man. I grew up next to you and your family, but the only thing embarrassing tonight was you.
Winner
October 5th, 2012
11:12 pm
Bill game over, take your medicine
It was a good call, and it stands
John D
October 5th, 2012
11:13 pm
I really does not surprise me why Atlanta, as a sports town, has only won one major sport championships. The Braves, Falcons, Hawks and all those failed hockey teams just can’t muster what it takes to win a championship………heart.
Drew
October 5th, 2012
11:13 pm
Don’t care who wins in the playoffs now.
Just hope the Nats don’t win a series. They should not come out smelling like roses for all the dumb Strasburg handling/decision/drama they made.
mistermak
October 5th, 2012
11:15 pm
Terrible throw Chomper!! that is how I will always remember you!! should have been a double play but instead you throw it into right field!
and tell me why the hell was Simmons bunting with runners on 1st and 3rd with one out and the the pitcher batting next. if Freddie called that he needs to go! If not they need to teach Simmons how the game is played and use his head!
I know weeks ago that if we had to play a one game playoff against the redbirds we would lose. some how it don’t even feel like we made the playoffs! thanks bud !!
MIKE IN/ATL
October 5th, 2012
11:15 pm
So many negative comments!!! Im not watching baseball the rest of the year. Its heartaching for all the fans!!! We should be still proud of them for what they have done this year! Think how the other teams feal that didn’t make it this far? Pittsburg for example 20 years & no playoffs!! We should be proud of our braves & just wait till next year, as for me no more baseball till next year!!
CA
October 5th, 2012
11:16 pm
Bill, do you really have a clue. An outfielder can be involved with the in-field fly rule (2.00). The umpire can not call it until the ball begins to return to the ground, after reaching its highest point. Therefore, the umpire can not call it, until he determines that the ball is returning, and that the fielder (who can be an outfielder) made ordinary effort. The umpire judged there was a point of ordinary effort. He called it, as soon as he could. You can not call an IFR until ordinary effort and apex has been established. So, let me ask. Do YOU know the rule, or are you just so mad, you can’t think straight?
Hicks Hayseed
October 5th, 2012
11:16 pm
The only way to put an end to Bud Selig’s horse-bull is to alleviate MLB’s anti-trust exemption! It’s truly the only thing they fear! Do away with divisions, restore the balanced schedule (it will be difficult with two 15-team leagues, but not impossible given interleague play), and let the top 4 teams in each league make the playoffs. 1 and 3 play in the first round, as do 2 and 4. The winners advance, etc. Plenty of money and fun to go around, but not as much as chaotic gambling situations like having a clearly inferior 5th place team defeat a clearly superior 4th place team (that would have been a champion in some of the other divisions). In the current scenario, the Detroit Tigers have won their division and have home-field advantage in the first round, yet have the SEVENTH best record in the American League). Absurd!
dawgforlife
October 5th, 2012
11:17 pm
That game was pure choke…don’t blame the umps…the braves had heimlic syndrome…they are the biggest chokers in the history of any sport. How many straight one and done losses did they say it was again? Blow 8 1/2 game lead last year…kick the ball all over the field against San Fran in last play off series…and spit the bit tonight with 3 errors…call it what it was they once again choked…they have Heimlic Syndrome….they don’t chew their food well enough…consumate choke artists…best I ever saw at choking!!!!
Winner's Mom
October 5th, 2012
11:17 pm
My son is an idiot. I apologize to all of you.
CA
October 5th, 2012
11:18 pm
Count_Schemula, why must you insult me for stating facts? It was an umpire’s judgement. He made the call in proper time, and in the manner that it must be made.
Keith
October 5th, 2012
11:20 pm
Please remove “headlines” spam from the blog. Thank you.
Terrible game for the Braves and horrific call.
Winner's Mom
October 5th, 2012
11:20 pm
My son plays with Barbie Dolls. Should I be worried?
Trash Man
October 5th, 2012
11:22 pm
CA – if you were actually watching this game you would have noticed that the infielder never was established and the umpire waited until the ball was about to hit ground to make the call, which is far closer to the ground than at the apex of its return.
David
October 5th, 2012
11:24 pm
There is no way that an umpire can blow a call that bad unless there is a payout involved. A little league ump doesn’t blow a call that bad…this ump will probably get a suspension and knew he would bear the wrath of fans and the league office before he made the call. Months or years later you may hear of a payment to a Swiss or Cayman bank on the behalf of this ump…maybe not the mob is pretty good….all of the umps at this game should get a suspension for not overturning the call…We don’t need additional umps to make horrible calls ..4 is plenty…The league office(Torre) wouldn’t have overturned that call if the ball had landed on the warning track…it’s all about the money …go ahead and put Rose and shoeless Joe in the hall of fame…MLB has no shame
Trash Man
October 5th, 2012
11:24 pm
I agree with David. That was a bought call.
mistermak
October 5th, 2012
11:26 pm
I wonder if that call would have been made against the Yankees?
CA
October 5th, 2012
11:26 pm
Trashman, I have watched it many times already.
Trash Man
October 5th, 2012
11:27 pm
NOOOO WAY! FOR the yanks though-for sure.
Joe Braves Fan
October 5th, 2012
11:27 pm
The call was bad, the defense was worse.
Braves fans should roast Joe “high road” Simpson. He’s a disgrace to Braves baseball. His “high and mighty” shtick is as stale as a 3 week loaf of bread. Either be the passionate voice of the Braves and their fans, or get the hell out Trader Joe.
Bud Selig
October 5th, 2012
11:28 pm
Everything’s fine. Everything’s fine. Nothing to see here.
Big Wally
October 5th, 2012
11:28 pm
Dear Atlanta Braves: Feel free to buy out Joe Simpson’s contract and get rid of him. After his crap tonight, I do not want to ever hear him broadcast another Atlanta Braves game.
Rufio
October 5th, 2012
11:28 pm
Chipper and I have something n common…..this was both our last Braves Game. After being a Braves fan for 35 years, I am done. If MLB won’t get a replay system in place then what is the point of going? Just flip a coin and decide who will win…..it will be simpler.
Freddie Gonzalez is a gutless coward. The umps intimidate him and it shows. How he can remain in the dug out after that call??? He is the only manager who would be there. Every other manager in MLB would have made the umpires kick them out.
For the Braves, City of Atlanta and MLB security to treat this game like a regular season game is a joke. MLB manipulated the playoff games to cause tension of a game 7 situation. They did not have the security to match a game 7 situation. Thank god this happened in Atlanta. Anywhere else a riot would have occurred and people would be dead. The idiot who manages the 750 club should be fired. If they can’t figure out to pull the ketchup and mustard bottles after the first ones were thrown then they are a just a moron
Joe Simpson
October 5th, 2012
11:29 pm
Plastic bottles have killed many a fan at sporting events over the years. This was flat out dangerous!
Larry
October 5th, 2012
11:29 pm
The infield fly rule was correct. We choked with those errors. I just wish General Sherman would have also taught us some manners when he came through in ‘65. No such luck. Guess I have to retire from this joke of a town.
PMC
October 5th, 2012
11:30 pm
Why don’t we have replay in baseball?
# get the freaking calls right
Trash Man
October 5th, 2012
11:30 pm
Larry – the infield fly was not correct.
Joe S. Must GO
October 5th, 2012
11:30 pm
Nice job…….I liked you…emphasis on PAST TENSE.
Dan The Man
October 5th, 2012
11:30 pm
For starters, the Braves were in this situation because they committed 3 errors and if the defense played their game, you would not have been freaking out on a call by the UMPS. Plus, read the rule book, they made the correct call.
Best way to sum up the fans is DISGRACEFUL. An embarrasement to the city of Atlanta and the state of Georgia. Everyone of you who participated in that display should have been arrested. Where, on earth was security, cause on the TV, it looked few and far between. Across the country, the Braves fans have been mocked for years with the stupid Tomahawk chop and now this classless incident. Shame on you-you call yourself fans. No Way you are not fans, fans dont throw objects and put your team and the visitors team in danger and to have this be remembered as Chipper Jones last game is ashame.
Joe Simpson
October 5th, 2012
11:31 pm
I embarrassed myself tonight.
Dhsimpson446
October 5th, 2012
11:31 pm
Bad calls or not, the Braves choke more than anyone (other than the Indians). Chipper, don’t let the door hit you on your butt on the way out you lousy jerk. Chips, your a loser and will always be a loser.
Trash Man
October 5th, 2012
11:31 pm
and what kind of manners does a man have who burns down a town?
you are the epitome of what is wrong with society today.
Joe Braves Fan
October 5th, 2012
11:32 pm
From Freddie Gonzales on down, this is a team that lacks grit. It lacks a street fighters “kill or be killed” mentality. The front office better get some passionate character guys on this team that want to kick some ass.
I thought they would have learned that by now.
PMC
October 5th, 2012
11:33 pm
If the ball is in the middle of left field how is it an infield fly?
They didn’t lose on that they lost because they wet the bed
PMC
October 5th, 2012
11:33 pm
If the ball is in the middle of left field how is it an infield fly?
They didn’t lose on that they lost because they wet the bed
ryan
October 5th, 2012
11:33 pm
Hey Braves watch Orioles havent been in playoffs since 1997 and they will not choke.The umps didnt cost us this game it was are defense. Theres no doubt in my mind if Simmons wasnt out McCann would of most likely hit in double play because we cant hit with runners in scoring position.Im with most the hell with Bourn with two strikes on him you know a strike out is coming.Go A”S and O”S. OH FIRE FREDI
Damaso Garcia
October 5th, 2012
11:34 pm
Good grief everybody, most everybody on here. We played a horrible game. Didn’t get it done. But we had a great season and will be ready next year. This is a good team (94 wins). We do need to get better and need some reinforcements, but no one needs to go. You haters are freaking idiots, or not real fans.
I like how FG managed this year and I think we need a few pieces for next year. Let’s get a new 3rd baseman and address center. Uggla needs a shorter leash and McCan needs to heal. Go braves!
Joe Simpson
October 5th, 2012
11:34 pm
I once went to the Vatican and lectured the Pope for not covering his mouth when he sneezed.
PMC
October 5th, 2012
11:34 pm
Chipper Jones ruined his own last game. He’s never been worse than that
Rufio
October 5th, 2012
11:34 pm
Chipper and I have something n common…..this was both our last Braves Game. After being a Braves fan for 35 years, I am done. If MLB won’t get a replay system in place then what is the point of going? Just flip a coin and decide who will win…..it will be simpler.
Freddie Gonzalez is a gutless coward. The umps intimidate him and it shows. How he can remain in the dug out after that call??? He is the only manager who would be there. Every other manager in MLB would have made the umpires kick them out.
For the Braves, City of Atlanta and MLB security to treat this game like a regular season game is a joke. MLB manipulated the playoff games to cause tension of a game 7 situation. They did not have the security to match a game 7 situation. Thank god this happened in Atlanta. Anywhere else a riot would have occurred and people would be dead. The idiot who manages the 750 club should be fired. If they can’t figure out to pull the ketchup and mustard bottles after the first ones were thrown then they should be fired.
To the fans that threw the items, go back to your gang in the Northeast or Los Angeles. The game has followed the NBA and Football and it is now just a thug sport because of fans like you.
Larry
October 5th, 2012
11:35 pm
To Winners Mom: depends on how he plays with the Barbies
The real Joe Simpson
October 5th, 2012
11:36 pm
I’m a retard.
Fire Joe Simpson!!!!
October 5th, 2012
11:38 pm
What a worthless announcer! Why wouldn’t fans throw trash on the field, if Frank Wren and John Schuerholz keeping paying trash to stay on the field. Atlanta fans get teased more than some kid chasing a girl in HS. Then when they do get it, they have the stamina of the girl on a HS date to the prom.
bp
October 5th, 2012
11:38 pm
there is never a valid reason to throw crap on the field.this was a disgrace.
hit a single
October 5th, 2012
11:39 pm
Bottom line is that the Braves offense stunk the last half of the season. You can only live off pitching for so long. The Braves still need a big stick especially with McCann struggling. I hope Uggla is gone. Alot of hustle but the worse major league hitter I have seen. He is like a softball player, no approach. Thank God for pitching the month of September. Offense stunk. I guess we go after another hitting coach. Time to quit blaming it on that.
Raiderbeater
October 5th, 2012
11:40 pm
I’m glad they threw trash. The call would have been buried by the MLB if they hadn’t. Atrocious call that deserved the extra attention.
Trash Man
October 5th, 2012
11:40 pm
The call did not cause the braves to loose. I agree. They lack grit. I agree. But McCann in the playoffs with the bases loaded….i would take that bet even in his off year.
The call did impact the game and it was a blatantly incorrect call.
hit a single
October 5th, 2012
11:41 pm
Also worse playoff format in any sport. One game was a joke. I would rather have had just one wild card team. Get Bud Selig out of there.
Winner's Mom
October 5th, 2012
11:41 pm
Larry, your an idiot like my son. You both probably play with Barbie Dolls.
Hillbilly D
October 5th, 2012
11:42 pm
The umpire can not call it until the ball begins to return to the ground, after reaching its highest point.
There is absolutely nothing that says you have to wait for the ball to be on its way down before calling the infield fly rule. Actually, it’s usually called immediately, before the ball ever reaches the top of its arc.
It actually says When it seems apparent that a batted ball will be an Infield Fly, the umpire shall immediately declare Infield Fly for the benefit of the runners.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/definition_terms_2.jsp
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Hillbilly D
October 5th, 2012
11:43 pm
Oops. Messed up the slanties.
PMC
October 5th, 2012
11:45 pm
2 years of abject failure in the playoffs does not equal a good year.
If you can’t even make the nlds don’t put a plaque up.
This team is not good enough.
andrew
October 5th, 2012
11:46 pm
Its the cruse of the State of Georgia’s sporting teams! And people wonder why the fans here are the way they are! Year after year of let downs!
Joe Braves Fan
October 5th, 2012
11:49 pm
Overall, the Braves had a good year. Solid pitching and stellar relief from Kimbrel. Heyward, Prado, and Freeman all had a good years and they will only continue to improve. The “rook” Simmons will be good. No, I mean REAL good. Bourn may be asking too much, but I’d see if I could work something out if I were the Braves. I’d trade Brian McCann and go with Ross (he’s better). I’d ask Uggla to take a pay cut or get rid of him. You just can’t pay a guy like that and watch him produce so little.
Larry
October 5th, 2012
11:49 pm
I like Barbies. And Larry Jones. And Martin “the devil wears” Prado.
Dum-Bass
October 5th, 2012
11:51 pm
Now would someone please tell me again what it was the Braves were celebrating the other night? I am thoroughly confused! What was it the Braves won that caused the celebration?
StL Fan
October 5th, 2012
11:52 pm
Great being a Cardinal Fan. You always get to drink beer at the stadium late in October. 12 in 12 sounds very nice. Better luck next year. Braves are second best tonight
Larry
October 5th, 2012
11:54 pm
Great being a Cardinal fan. I love Arizona football.
bp
October 5th, 2012
11:54 pm
Hilarious when did a player ever take a paycut
LOL at the Aints
October 5th, 2012
11:56 pm
Oh well too many young players, ,, Braves,, maybe next year, LOL,, Go Birds,
Larry
October 5th, 2012
11:58 pm
Michael Vick took a pay cut to play for the Eagles. That’s one
joe
October 5th, 2012
11:59 pm
We feel your pain Texas. Nolan Ryan does not look happy.
baseballer
October 6th, 2012
12:00 am
Isn’t it kind of funny that Jones cost the braves the game by throwing the ball over the shortstop head and costing them 3 runs…what a farce.
Komminsk
October 6th, 2012
12:01 am
Chipper set the tone with his error and the rest of the team followed. The fact he tipped his hat to the crowd, implying it was his final at-bat, in the bottom of the ninth was pathetic. The new regime cannot start soon enough.
Joe Braves Fan
October 6th, 2012
12:01 am
A lot of pro athletes restructure their contracts to take a pay cut to stay in the city they want to play.
If Uggla doesn’t want to do it … “See ya!”
Larry
October 6th, 2012
12:02 am
Hilarious.
count_schemula
October 6th, 2012
12:02 am
Send Joe SImpson and Dan Uggla to Detroit for $1.
Larry
October 6th, 2012
12:04 am
Now things are getting uggla
Protest the World Series
October 6th, 2012
12:07 am
Torre did what was right for MLB and it’s bottom line. That has nothing to do with the integrity of the game or the fans.
Count schmegma
October 6th, 2012
12:08 am
For prince fielder. At least he could field an infield fly
PMC
October 6th, 2012
12:08 am
We should examine the cardinal organization clearly the braves have it backwards
The 162 are meaningless if you can’t hit and defend when it matters
David Ross was the best player on the field tonight
Rally killer Uggla is thanking The Lord for his wretched guaranteed contract.
That these Guys and umpires can’t be fired or questioned has ruined the sport.
phoenix
October 6th, 2012
12:08 am
If the same thing had happened to the home team in Detroit or Philly, wonder what the fan reaction would have been? Talk about ugly….
music city hammer
October 6th, 2012
12:09 am
Atlanta lost because:
1. No hitting! The wrong Braves team showed up. The lifeless, emotionless team we took apart all season dared to come back tonight. My wife’s comment, “Why don’t you guys care?”
2. No fielding! It has happened only a couple of times this year, but this was the wrong time. Statistics mean nothing (best fielding team in the NL regular season); performance today does.
3. Freddi’s 7th inning call. You are two runs down in a game you are struggling in offensive. The Cards have a runner at third and one out. You have watched this all too many times this year. You know what you are up against. If it is not already over, another run and it is. Not just the game, but the season is on the line. There hasn’t been a bigger spot all season. You have to strand the runner at third base. It is closer time. Where was Kimbrell? What were you thinking? You don’t need him in the ninth three/four runs down. Hold ‘em in the seventh; keep the score close; keep the pressure on. You have a much better chance to come back from two than three or four. Not every save is made in the ninth in spite of the definition. Tonight the save was blown in the 7th.
A final thought, how much bigger would the blown call would have been if it had been a one run game which is what it could have been had the save been made in the 7th. That call should give MLB a lot of pause about a one game wild card. When there is no recourse (second game) an umpire’s call can very easily determine a post season advancement. Is that really what MLB wants?
PMC
October 6th, 2012
12:11 am
Uggla is going to drink muscle milk and all off season well hear his sob story about how that will never happen again. Except they would just be rehashing this year.
Without extensive changes this team WILL NOT Compete for anything real ever.
They cannot hit.
phoenix
October 6th, 2012
12:11 am
Just wait. Uggla will heat up in June. I meant July. Wait, he’s gonna tear it up in August. Watch out for him in September. He’ll get hot in October.
soullrenaissance
October 6th, 2012
12:12 am
Peace Out to choker who never won the big game like Dave Justice yet gets idolized for being a great switch hitter, please, Jones wasa great player but NEVER was real leader of men, too laid back or something. Always froze up in the big games…what other baseball star who never had clutch in his veins got idolized so much??? Cal Ripken. SMH.
LOL at the Aints
October 6th, 2012
12:12 am
I think this will be a better team next year without the Chipper,, He really blew it tonight,, And we dont need Boirne, or whatever his name is,,
Larry
October 6th, 2012
12:12 am
Okay fair enough. But Philly is an anomaly. They’re clearly the lowest formog lfe on the planet. But among civilized cities. It’s a disgrace that our city with it’s southern charm resorted to this behavior. What our children think of our behavior?
Larry
October 6th, 2012
12:12 am
Okay fair enough. But Philly is an anomaly. They’re clearly the lowest form of lfe on the planet. But among civilized cities. It’s a disgrace that our city with it’s southern charm resorted to this behavior. What our children think of our behavior?
PMC
October 6th, 2012
12:12 am
It’s an organizational thing they don’t know how to fix it.
This is a year in year out disaster.
Strike out kings with RISP
Larry
October 6th, 2012
12:15 am
To PMC. Great idea. Going to make my GF drink muscle milk this off season. Perhaps improve her attitude if not mine!
LOL at the Aints
October 6th, 2012
12:15 am
Oh, and i am sick and tired of hearing we had a great season,, No We Did Not,, LOL
PMC
October 6th, 2012
12:16 am
People reacted that way because there was no other recourse.
Umpires are stubborn fools wrong or right. Obviously throwing objects on the field is something civilized people don’t do. But that was and amazingly horrible call on what could have been a big inning. All they had to do is just review it and fix it. But umpires are too stubborn to get it right
Redbird88
October 6th, 2012
12:17 am
Um um um….tried to tell y’all….how about learning the rules to the game before you show for your one game of the year:( stay classy Braves fans still Champs happy flight keep choking:)
Larry
October 6th, 2012
12:21 am
To redbird88. Yeah “missourah”. The other Pennsyltucky.
GaryinBham
October 6th, 2012
12:25 am
GaKnight, if we’re talking classless, murdering soccer players after a loss and trampling fans to death doesn’t make a great case for “futbol.” Gimme a break
Redbird88
October 6th, 2012
12:26 am
12″ in 12″ stay classy Braves fans:)
Larry
October 6th, 2012
12:27 am
I went to a Cardinals game once and I was stunned by how many pretty blondes were there. I always thought that Dallas or Miami would have prettier women but I think the German immigrants in Mssouri were influencing all the blondes I saw. And the nice thing was they were all kinda “slow” if you know what I mean. Which of course worked for me since I’m from georgia myself
Chris in Marietta
October 6th, 2012
12:30 am
Umpire Holbrook, Joe Torre, and MLB basically out performed the NFL replacement refs in a half inning. It’s one thing to blow a call completely (Holbrook), but to actually look at the play and still make the same lousy decision (Torre) shows a level of stupidity that’s beyond anything we could have imagined. That’s not to say that the Braves played great – but at least they were making an attempt to come back until MLB and it’s lousy umpiring and “executives” decided to ensure their failure. Shame on MLB. I’m done!
Chris in Marietta
October 6th, 2012
12:30 am
Umpire Holbrook, Joe Torre, and MLB basically out performed the NFL replacement refs in a half inning. It’s one thing to blow a call completely (Holbrook), but to actually look at the play and still make the same lousy decision (Torre) shows a level of stupidity that’s beyond anything we could have imagined. That’s not to say that the Braves played great – but at least they were making an attempt to come back until MLB and it’s lousy umpiring and “executives” decided to ensure their failure. Shame on MLB. I’m done!
Tdawg
October 6th, 2012
12:30 am
You fans that are so disgusted by the fans throwing trash on the field are right. They should have been throwing it at those pathetic refs. The fans had a right to show their displeasure at those incompetent jerks. Never in the history of the game of baseball has an infield fly rule been called with the ball so far in the outfield. Hell it should be and automatic no infield fly rule if the outfielder has to catch the dang ball anyway. Maybe if Torre had a pair he would have done the right thing and over turn a obvious blunder. Instead he took the cowards way out. Big shocker there. Brave probably still loses, but we will never know for sure now. Thanks refs. You as usuall screwed it up yet once again.
NickGranite
October 6th, 2012
12:31 am
Medlen, you gave up one run. Yeah, I know they nailed you with two but Chipper had the DP and threw it away. Job well done. The infield imploded and that’s that. Lesson learned for the young guys. You get a shot and that’s it. If you leave anything to chance i.e the vagaries of umpire’s calls, you leave yourself open. We LOST this game and as much as I like Chipper, he was a big reason we lost. I hope Wren finds a few contact guys because invariably, strikeout pitchers find strikeout guys like Bourn in crucial situations. Next year should be interesting.
NickGranite
October 6th, 2012
12:35 am
Tdawg is right. The umpire injected himself in the game on an infield fly call I haven’ t seen in over 40 years of watching baseball…and i mean watching. That was a call that will live in infamy.
AndyR
October 6th, 2012
12:38 am
As a Packer fan, we in Wisconsin feel your pain on that horrible Outfield Fly Rule call. Unlike the Seahawks game, that alone wasn’t what killed the Bravos tonight but it certainly was a momentum killer. Please DC end the Cardinals season in short order. Or in 7 on a blown call. Just end it.
Larry
October 6th, 2012
12:38 am
Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor. Umps blow call in Atlanta. They shall live in infamy. Please don’t worry that they bases were loaded twice and that we has three errors. Totally disregard!
Larry
October 6th, 2012
12:40 am
Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor. Umps blow call in Atlanta. They shall live in infamy. Please don’t worry that they bases were loaded twice and that we had three errors. Totally disregard!
Sando
October 6th, 2012
12:41 am
Bite me and yours; John Paul and Headlines.
jackie SITTON
October 6th, 2012
12:43 am
Enter your comments here
Kevin Chop
October 6th, 2012
12:47 am
I would still be throwing trash on the field right now
Robert
October 6th, 2012
12:53 am
When the Braves go to spring training they should work on hitting with runners in scoring position. This ugly .231 RISP didn’t allow the team an attempt to cover up 3 fielding errors. Watching this team when they are behind they seem to lack confidence. In the 4th inning when Bourne led off with a signal there was no urgency to get in scoring position. How about a straight steal or hit and run. If the Braves would have been aggressive in the inning just maybe they could have scratched another run and been able to cover up Chipper’s error. I guess we will wait and see how upper management decides if a change in the dugout needs to be made. Any thoughts?
Joe
October 6th, 2012
12:54 am
Headline’s mother should be arrested and thrown in jail for squirting his dumb ass out and polluting the planet with his stupidity.
jackie SITTON
October 6th, 2012
12:55 am
remember we are thr brave and when you play us at home you are in brave counrty GO BRAVES
Kevin Chop
October 6th, 2012
12:56 am
chipper tipped hipped his capped but he deserved to
klaus
October 6th, 2012
1:03 am
2013 Wren TO DOs
1) Beg Liberty for 10mm more in payroll
2) Trade Uggla to Detroit, LA or anywhere for a bag of balls (and 3B prospect) & toss in 5mm in salary/year. Prado at 2B
3) Trade an arm + to Texas for Elvis
4) Trade Elvis or Simmons to AZ for Justin Upton for LF
5) Sign BJ Upton for CF
6) Sign a mega back load deal for Greinke
Not happening but needs to…
Colbren0
October 6th, 2012
1:03 am
Proud of my Braves for a great season! Enjoyed watching Chipper for the last time (20 years)! I’m still a die-hard Braves fan and always ready for next year.
I love my ATL BRAVES!
TL
October 6th, 2012
1:12 am
Well I guess this is it – MLB is now a crap sport If the commissioner does not step in and correct this it is over. I have 50 years of devotion but if this t-ball-league call is allowed to stand there is nothing left to separate MLB from the other garbage leagues – NFL, NBA, NHL which are nothing better than reality TV side shows…RIP MLB. BTW does anybody have an email address for Bud Selig?
Gtnc1990
October 6th, 2012
1:14 am
First of all this 1 game playoff is a total joke. You can’t take a 162 game season and pin it all on 1 game to see who advances. You could take the worst team in baseball and they could have beat either of these teams today in a 1 game playoff. This is a disgrace to MLB, all they are trying to do is make more money for the game!!! At the very least if you are going to have 2 wildcard teams, they should play a minimum 3 game series.
The Braves made some costly errors today that didn’t help, but that is my point, in a 1 game elimination you have to be perfect, anything can happen and did today. I hate it for Chipper and the entire Braves organization. We have a very good team and I think we would have went deep in the playoffs. Bottom line this SUCKS!!!
I didn’t get to see the end of the game, but it sounds like we got screwed out of a potential rally that could have won the game. I am sick that it ended this way. I can only hope that MLB changes this STUPID wildcard format.
Thanks for all the memories Chipper, see you in the HOF!
lville
October 6th, 2012
1:16 am
another playoff choke for the braves—it never changes. another of many reasons they call atlanta loserville–it fits.
jonathan
October 6th, 2012
1:18 am
i just wish umpire’s would say they made bad call.
jonathan
October 6th, 2012
1:18 am
i just wish umpire’s would say they made bad call.
BravesFanRI
October 6th, 2012
1:21 am
Brutal call, absolute nonsense. Having said that why can’t this franchise win home playoff games? That’s ten home series ending losses in twenty years, lost 16 of last 20 at home in the playoffs. The players change yet the same old story can’t get a big hit at the right time. Beyond frustrating.
Things I want to see next season:
-Another solid middle of the rotation starter to go along with Hudson, Medlen, Minor and Maholm. You can’t trust Hanson for next season. Bullpen is set.
-Bring up Todd Cunningham to man one of the OF spots. Let Bourn walk. You can’t give him the years and money he wants.
-Bring in another solid bat to replace Chipper (Cuddyer, Fowler, Ross, Hunter to name a few)
With all the money coming off the books from Chipper, Lowe and Bourn use the money for the above mentioned things plus extend the young guys, Freeman, Kimbrel, Heyward and Prado.
Big offseason with a lot of money to spend transitioning from Chipper’s team. I hope he stays around the team like Murph.
Lebo
October 6th, 2012
1:25 am
First off, this one game play in is just plain stupid and I said that as soon as it was announced. Secondly, the errors lost the game. The absolutely ridiculous in field fly rule call cost them possibly a chance at getting back in it.
Now, for all you folks who diss the Braves as being a bunch of losers, don’t care, have no heart, etc., why don’t you move on over to Houston and see how you like it there? Just because a team loses a big game doesn’t mean they weren’t trying for crying out loud. Maybe they were trying too hard?
Oh, and by the way, even with the problems they have had all year with not plating RISP, which to me is their biggest issue for the last few years, they were still in a tie for the 4th best team in MLB.
So, all you haters of Fredi, Chipper, McCann, why don’t you just take a hike? Or show up in Orlando next spring and show us how YOU can do it better.
The Braves beat themselves (again) but that doesn’t mean they don’t care or did not try.
TL
October 6th, 2012
1:26 am
Lastly, FGonz should have his contract terminated for not getting tossed on the infield FR call – B Cox would be in the process of being bonded out of the FC Jail about now had he been at the helm.
jeff
October 6th, 2012
1:26 am
Still not sure why Braves fans are upset. The call really benefited them. According to Kozma he thought it was the outfielder calling him off when he heard it which is why he suddenly moved. So instead of 2 outs with runners on 1-2 they had two outs with runners on 2-3. Assuming Kozma would make the catch which looked routine from the replay.
Thomas Brown
October 6th, 2012
1:26 am
I see the only reason why the Cardinals did not celebrate on our own field again this season, is that they did not feel safe doing so with the poor sports who showed up to the game tonight, like the call would have altered the game.
Day Old Fries
October 6th, 2012
1:32 am
12-27 in postseason since game one of the 1999 WS
12 and 27
pathetic.
TL
October 6th, 2012
1:32 am
T Brown – the call altered the game as the open base at first allowed them to walk Mac and go after a lead off man Bourne – it does matter!
jeff
October 6th, 2012
1:38 am
TL it altered the game positively for the Braves assuming Kozma would have made the catch not thinking the outfielder was calling him off.
TL
October 6th, 2012
1:51 am
NO – the play was well outside the infield apron and in that area you have to either communicate visually, verbally or know/trust each other so they should have known what 12 yr olds know about baseball and you’re now into the area of what could have happened if someone’s shoe was untiled or a cat in a box may or may not be dead or alive
Mike in DC
October 6th, 2012
2:06 am
That call was a joke. I can’t believe it happened at Turner Field, maybe in St. Louis. There’s a huge difference between bases loaded and 1 out and 2nd & 3rd and 2 outs. Disgraceful.
Billy
October 6th, 2012
2:13 am
when does position players report this spring. I am only 52 with 3 neck operations but someone is going to have to take up the heart that has for the Braves. No one else has shown how to be aleader
or a winner.I can catch in a pinch if i have to.
Tony
October 6th, 2012
2:17 am
Why is this a surprise? This town always gets dumped on. So here we go again. ATL fans throw stuff, It’s about damn time!!!!!!
Tony
October 6th, 2012
2:17 am
Why is this a surprise? This town always gets dumped on. So here we go again. ATL fans throw stuff, It’s about damn time!!!!!!
Billy
October 6th, 2012
2:17 am
Chipper will be in Yankee pinstripes next year and pick up the 23 HRs he needs for 500
Billy
October 6th, 2012
2:17 am
Chipper will be in Yankee pinstripes next year and pick up the 23 HRs he needs for 500
Mike
October 6th, 2012
2:20 am
The call wasn’t really the problem. The problem was the one-game playoff. No way should the Cardinals have been allowed a one-game shootout with the Braves after finishing *7* games behind the Braves in the regular season. This should be a best of 3 series at least, given the possibility of a large disparity in records between the wild cards. I mean, shouldn’t the difference in regular season records count for something? The people who run MLB must be insane if they think it’s fair to force a team that finishes well ahead of its playoff opponent into a one-game, anything-can-happen shootout. I mean, this same result could’ve happened if the Braves had won 105 games and the Cardinals 83. Surely a team ought to get more than one playoff game if it finishes the regular season way ahead of its playoff opponent. One game playoffs should be for tiebreakers only.
As far as I’m concerned, the fans in the stands had every right to throw stuff on the field in protest against this sham of a playoff. Clearly they would not have reacted as forcefully as they did had this been the last game of a 5 or 7 game series. It obviously hit home when the bad call occurred that the Braves were probably going home after only one playoff game, despite winning 93 games and finishing *7* games ahead of the Cardinals in the regular season.
With the rare exception of tiebreakers, playoffs in MLB have always been about multiple games, and fans should keep protesting against this new one-game playoff until MLB gets rid of it. I knew when they announced it there were going to be problems and complaints as soon as the first one occurred. Baseball is a game inches, and any MLB team can beat any other on a given day. I knew it was therefore inevitable that a bad call or some other bad break was going to allow a .500 team to send a team with 90+ wins packing after just one game. I also knew that the unfairness of this would cause a violent reaction from the fans of that team. As tasteless and classless as such a reaction might be, it is entirely understandable, given that this one-game playoff has undermined the whole tradition of MLB. Baseball is not football, and until the idiots who run MLB realize that, I for one am simply not going to invest any more time and money on MLB.
count_schemula
October 6th, 2012
2:24 am
Yes, the chipper error was a big deal. When Simmons freaked out and made an error that was a sinking feeling too. When Fredo called for a suicide freak choke bunt that was unsettling. When the Braves stranded 35 of 12 runners, that was no bueno, and when Uggla threw the ball to Chuck Knobloch that was not surprising, and if that what it was, we could say 110% choke job.
I was yelling at Derrick Lowe once saying something about how he was stealing his money and some mommy flipped out and I got a lecture from security. Not one curse word was uttered. I wasn’t even mad, I was just doing some mild heckling, trying to get some value out of a game where Derrick Lowe was getting pounded and I think Jamey Moyer was on cruise control the night after I saw Halliday toss a 2 hitter.
But “the call” matters because here is that team of pro chokers of epic proportions making one last come back, one last effort to dispel the myth. Too little too late? Maybe. Probably even. But the call was not about was it a tie goes to the runner, was the pitch 1″ outside and called a strike. It was so bad that Atlanta fans got up out of their seats and threw plastic Bud Light bottles onto the field. Think about what it takes to get Braves fans to to throw Bud Light, not even Budweiser, Bud Light bottles onto the field. The call was not, oh, it happens, sometimes you don’t get a break, it was a true stinker of a call.
And now the Braves truly are those choke artists that they probably were before tonight, a team powered by their backup catcher, let down by their hero and failed by their big free agent and now add the umps, Joe Torre and Yadier Molinia’s tweets into the mix.
It took me until the All -Star break to get over the collapse and what it meant to have Braves to be this futile after the Yankees kick our jock in 1996, or as another poster put it, 1966, and now with all the HoF pitching gone, Andruw Jones at 300 pounds and Chipper in a deer stand, I won’t watch any post season this year, just like last year, and I would not be surprised if I never really follow baseball the same again.
To Joe Simpson and the embarrassed by the fans set, a tirade of profanity in your direction. That wonderful display of trash, that scene of mass litter equaled only by my own Old 4th Ward neighborhood or the 1979 Disco Riot at Comiskey, the scene of such disgrace, that Braves fans, was your finest hour.
Kevin
October 6th, 2012
2:27 am
Safety squeeze with number 8 hitter. so Typical!
No reason to let Bourne run with nobody on!
Sure Wren will tell us it was another great yr/
Kevin
October 6th, 2012
2:31 am
Hey Count!
Well Said!
No accountability in this College town.
Robert Brooks
October 6th, 2012
2:40 am
‘Twas the drunken redneck fans who marred the game, not the call. It was correct. General Sherman, where are you when we need you.
Guru
October 6th, 2012
2:43 am
It was a debatable call, but not completly wrong. Kozma wa camped under the ball, bu thought he heard Holiday call him off. The infield fly rule should maybe have been called sooner, but the left field ump waited until he was sure that it was a routine catch. If Kozma had dropped the ball on purpose and the infield fly ball hadn’t been called, a double play might have resulted, and all the ignorant Brave fans would have been yelling that it should have been called. The Braves lost the game because of 3 errors. The team that played the best won the game. Chipper Jones had the class to say so. After reading some of the comments about a first ballot hall of fame player on this board, I can completly understand why Atlanta is such a bad baseball town. Chipper got a better reception in his last game in St. Louis, than he did in his last game in Atlanta
Pale Rider
October 6th, 2012
2:47 am
It is obvious the yanks have invaded the south- bottle throwing is simply not acceptable in the South. If you cannot mind your manners- move back north!
Pale Rider
October 6th, 2012
2:50 am
Freddie Manager of the Year is equivalent to Dan Uggla being an All-Star. Both suck. Liberty Media ownership sucks more though.
steve
October 6th, 2012
2:59 am
what a bad call giving Ross the timeout, Lohse struck him out – COULD HAVE BEEN THE ST.LOUIS HEADLINE
Pale Rider
October 6th, 2012
3:02 am
Sorry Chipper
Kennesaw Mtn Landis
October 6th, 2012
3:08 am
I am nearly out of my mind right now. Not because the Braves lost (too many errors) but because NOBODY UNDERSTANDS THE INFIELD FLY RULE. (or even why it exists)
” The infield fly rule is a rule in baseball intended to prevent infielders from intentionally dropping pop-ups in order to turn double plays (or triple plays). Without this rule, a defense could easily turn a pop fly into a double play when there are runners at first and second base. If the runners stay near their bases to tag up, the defense could let the ball drop, throw to third base and then to second, for a force-out at each base.”
But this rule DOES NOT APPLY IF FIRST BASE IS OPEN – BECAUSE THERE IS NO FORCE OUT!!!!
Holy Baloney Mother of God…I learned this rule watching my son play competitive Little League.
…and now I’m watching sports center and nobody understand either! They even had a retired umpire on who agreed with the call .
THE REASON THE RULE EXISTS IS TO PREVENT “FORCE OUTS” AT THE NEXT BASE …IF YOU HAVE A MAN ON 2ND AND A MAN ON THIRD (BUT NOBODY ON 1ST)….THERE IS NO FORCE OUT – THEY DON’T HAVE TO F’-ING RUN!!!!!!!!!
Thomas Brown
October 6th, 2012
3:24 am
Kennesaw Mtn Landis,
We had runners at 1st and 2nd, and you think everybody is wrong because the runners did not have to run. Yes, they are forced to run if the ball is purposely dropped once any player can get under it to set up the infield fly rule. I have coached baseball for 50 years. You don’t even know we had runners on 1st and 2nd and that is why you think everyone is wrong.
Kennesaw Mtn Landis
October 6th, 2012
3:45 am
Ooops…thanks Thomas Brown…I thought they were on 2nd and 3rd…so my whole rant goes out the window
No Offense….poop..we still lost
Kennesaw Mtn Landis
October 6th, 2012
4:01 am
Oh please…I grew up around STL and they wanted to HANG Deckinger…and they would have..given the chance.
Wade Myers
October 6th, 2012
4:03 am
Nothing shameful in how the fans handled this. If anything they should have kept throwing more junk on the field and had the game called like the officials kept threatening to do. Heck, if I was not in the upper deck I would have been right there throwing stuff too.
Anywhere else it is acceptable to admit when you are wrong and correct it…….WHY not in baseball? Especially during a playoff.
On another related subject…..this was the first time I have heard 50,000 people all in unison chanting “Bull Shyt”
Thomas Brown
October 6th, 2012
4:12 am
Kennesaw Mtn Landis,
No Problem. I knew you had where the runners were, at different bases. It’s routine, as you pointed out in this situation, once a fielder can reasonably get under the ball.
The game was lost because we cannot hit. In fact, neither of our 1st two runs really should have scored. And, of course, their big inning never happens. The double-play is 2 outs and Prado should have been playing a step back so he could catch a ball that bounces directly over his head with a 2-run lead from the walk when Dan Uggla watched a pitch drill the mitt right where it was held for the pitch, and the wild-swinging back-up catcher got 4 strikes.
Or, the game would have been 1-6.
Like I said BEFORE THE GAME.
Now, where are all those who told me I was WRONG BEFORE the game ?
Go ahead.
You can say it.
We’re the 10th best team in baseball and are eliminated at home for the other team to celebrate here
AGAIN.
Now on to the Georgia Bulldogs, who have not beat a single team who made the top 10 in 7 years, and tonight South Carolina will not make the Top 10 at about # 14, as I see them.
Backdoor Slider
October 6th, 2012
4:22 am
I do hope Wren will make a managerial change this offseason. There’s just no excuse for some of the moves Fredi makes.
Teddy B
October 6th, 2012
4:24 am
And so here on the first day of the new Wild Card system we see first hand how bad of an idea it is. Honestly I wouldn’t have any resistance to the idea of just taking the Wild Card completely out of Baseball. You don’t win your division, tough luck.
Wild Cards give sneaky, although inadequate, teams a chance to win right from out under the teams with the most wins. Its sickening. The Braves had so many games up on the Cards, but the Cards 1 and done the Braves. So unfair, plus I saw quite a few questionable calls going for St. Louis. Makes you wonder..
Well its been a great year fellow Braves fans, hopefully over the winter we get some good news. Braves-please don’t trade away my favorite player- Jason Heyward.
He’s our future and he’s a great player.
See ya’ll in the Spring, Teddy is a worn down Bear from this long season and I am going to hibernate until spring!!!!
Teddy B
October 6th, 2012
4:27 am
Honestly it was such a cheap way to end our year, but the Cards specialize in cheap wins so go figure. The only reason we lost was that asinine Infield fly ruling that should NOT have applied.
Did we borrow the NFL replacement Refs to call this game?? Sure seemed like it to me. Cards are dirty cheaters they’ll get taken care of next round when someone has a series to play them in, instead of a 1 game tv ratings booster. Thanks for this headache Bud Selig. Thanks.
mace224
October 6th, 2012
4:39 am
Even the Cards manager said he’s never seen a call like that.
count_schemula
October 6th, 2012
4:43 am
“they wait until the ball reaches the apex (big word for you Atlanta) of it’s flight then look to see”
it’s “its flight” there chief – possessive, not a contraction, lol
mace224
October 6th, 2012
4:47 am
Dear field crew: You didn’t clean up all the garbage on the field. The Umps were still on it.
count_schemula
October 6th, 2012
4:49 am
“So now your down 6-1 with the bases loaded and 1 out in the 8th. Do you really think that the Braves would score 5 runs then when they couldn’t score with runners in scoring position the whole game??
Score was 6-3.
Ordinary effort? We see that play all the time. As it went down tonight, it’s either miscommunication, or, the SS was afraid of the LF.
bubbles
October 6th, 2012
4:55 am
The Masters of Choke do they thang! Horrible throwing errors, listless play, and poor play calling. What was up with the call to bunt in the 8th? Or, not sending Bourne after reaching first, early in the game, up 2-0. Dumb.
Chipper left on a SLACK note, by not legging it out to first on his last “hit” in the majors. He was ready to head to Hooters with Struggla, who ended the game on a weak effort. A fitting end to a season of ‘what could’ve beens.’
Any team with THREE laughable throwing errors doesn’t deserve it. That’s a fact, jack.
Chicken Bone
October 6th, 2012
4:56 am
Game looked rigged to me. Judgement calls ruled! Also, Torre to make the final call? Many of you all don’t remember that Torre was run out of the ATL because of his behavior off the field. He just so happened to be traded to St Louis and won a batting title there. All the perfect MLB soap opera! Officiating was horrible and the little league errors by both teams were a joke! Good luck Red Birds on your quest to win another championship. I myself could care less to watch this fiasco called MLB.
Thomas Brown
October 6th, 2012
5:05 am
cheap were the fans
ljm
October 6th, 2012
5:06 am
I love the braves but this loss comes as no surprise. How can it be a infield fly call when the ball is not in the infield. This is a bad call.
Early bird
October 6th, 2012
5:15 am
I am not mad at the ump. I am mad at baseball. The rule was misapplied, and the judgement was way off, butt even when all umps gather for a conference, they can’t correct a bad call. Some think this is the beauty of baseball. I will not continue to follow professional baseball. I have seen my last game, in person and on tv. I will change channels when they cover baseball on sports center. For some people it was the strike, for some it was steroids. For me it is the marriage to the “this is the way we have always done it” way of thinking, when better ways exist. I don’t have the time to invest in 162 games, only to see the season end like this. This “America’s Pastime” time has passed for this former fan. I have better things to do.
sameolbraves
October 6th, 2012
5:40 am
If you want to win money, bet against the Braves.
William A. Schaedler
October 6th, 2012
5:41 am
“Champagne for St. Louis. The usual piss for Atlanta.” Now that’s funny.
ChillyMutt
October 6th, 2012
5:50 am
My apologies to Simmons for thinking ill of him, I thought he bunted on his own with the pitcher up next. The Frediot returns.
ChillyMutt
October 6th, 2012
5:56 am
The Cardinals ridicule the Braves for celebrating after advancing to the playoffs in a 162 game season.
The Cardinals celebrate with champagne after advancing in a 1 game payoff aided by Braves errors and a huge umpiring mistake.
Realist
October 6th, 2012
6:02 am
I hate it when I’m right. I told you all, “too much celebration too soon. They’ll be out in the first round.” Typical Braves, just can’t get it up for the big show.
Mike
October 6th, 2012
6:28 am
Early bird, what should be upsetting you is the one-game playoff, not one bad call. The Braves and Cards would be playing again today – and this bad call would be forgotten – had the idiots who run MLB not decided to turn baseball into football. They have destroyed any credibility MLB had left with this stupid 5-team playoff format, and until they move back to the previous format, I will also be tuning out baseball.
It was was bad enough that the Cards were even allowed in the playoffs given their regular season record. (They wouldn’t have been last season.) That they moved on by winning a *single* game over a team with a better record is simply not acceptable. That is not baseball, and anyone who is truly a fan of the game should boycott MLB until this stupid one-game playoff is eliminated.
Oren Spiegler, Pennsylvania
October 6th, 2012
6:33 am
I suppose that in a society like ours, which is in a state of decay, I should not be surprised that there is support for the fans who became thugs, endangering players and umpires and issuing thinly-veiled threats to the umpire who made the bad call. I suppose that those who are so enraged as to justify beastly behavior have never made a mistake. I hope that those who support engaging in this behavior do not have children as it would be a pity if the child sought to emulate the destructive mindset of the parent. To the pro-trash throwing individuals, I would ask, what do you think Chipper Jones’ view of this would be? Would he have encouraged more trash be tossed on to the field, a longer delay of the game, and more embarrassment for Atlanta?
count_schemula
October 6th, 2012
6:42 am
“My apologies to Simmons for thinking ill of him, I thought he bunted on his own with the pitcher up next. The Frediot returns.”
A lot of us think Fredo was covering for Simmons.
count_schemula
October 6th, 2012
6:47 am
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
– Thomas “Thug Daddy” Jefferson
Thomas Brown
October 6th, 2012
6:48 am
Braves celebrated BEFORE the play-off game, because they knew they cannot hit, are weak in the middle, have no superstar who would even play in the play-off game, have no manager, and have the worst ownership of professional sports.
One Big Dummy
October 6th, 2012
6:49 am
Again, if Fredi was covering for Simmons, then Fredi didn’t bother to tell Andrelton why bunting in that situation is a terrible idea the first time it happened, because that’s the second time this season that Simmons did that!
Nativebird
October 6th, 2012
6:49 am
Why are all of us Braves fans so angry? They made the playoff, right? Isn’t that the end all goal, not the World Series every year? Certainly sounds like it every year. Well folks this is what happens when your home town franchise has NO INTENTION of even trying to put together a WS team every year. This team ended up with the result of exactly what they were built to accomplish. Thank you
Liberty media.
Winston
October 6th, 2012
6:52 am
Quit complainiong, the game is over, thge short stop was under the ball. I hate the call but it was not as bad as all of you people are screaming. Our boys lost and that is it. Too many errors, too many left on base.
Hicks Hayseed
October 6th, 2012
6:53 am
Bye-bye, Hooter Chokes — don’t ever come back! Stay on your ranch charging upwardly mobile rednecks insane amounts of cash to go hunting with you and your dad. Just please…DON’T EVER COME BACK!!!
Steve from Philly
October 6th, 2012
6:53 am
This “AtlantaLoser” person cites all the analysts on the MLB network supporting the call. First, no Cards fans needs to defend the call. They won the game, move on. Second, the MLB network analysts are MLB employees. Figure it out.
Congrats to Chipper and all the best. Mixed comments here but he tortured the Phillies for years and while we respect him, we won’t be sorry that he’s moved on. : )
Finally, the fans. Those who defend their actions – what would you be saying if that had been Philly fans? No one would have made any excuses and we would have heard about booing Santa Claus again (even though it happened almost 50 years ago). Well, life isn’t always fair, but you can’t defend throwing garbage on the field.
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October 6th, 2012
7:04 am
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MONK ATL
October 6th, 2012
7:13 am
Let the Players Decide the Game the Announcer said ….then why did the worst call I can EVER remember stand??? Its just Wrong Wrong Wrong. I was at the Ted seeing History and this is what I
get? The Braves FANS where showing their Support (Outrage and Anger and Pure Utter Disbelief).
Major League Baseball should be Ashamed, NOT the BRAVES FANS. Thanks for the 19, #10!
Bruce Benedict
October 6th, 2012
7:18 am
The errors lost the game, but the late and inaccurate call on the infield fly is another black eye on baseball. Perhaps Torre can now see this in his new role and make some changes to the replay/review rules in baseball. In my opinion, the rule shouldn’t even exist in it’s current form. Force the players to make the plays. Force the umps to make the correct call. Managers should have one challenge per game. And BTW…@Headlines ~ You Suck!
sam
October 6th, 2012
7:20 am
did anyone ever think that major league would overturn that call, when infield fly rule was call the shortstop was running away from the ball. he was not camp under the ball that was not a judgement call that was bad call
jana
October 6th, 2012
7:21 am
1)one has no chance when an empire is a homer..is it holbvrook who is from alton( just outside of st louis) and a good friend of izzy & a cardinal fan
2) is not joe garagiola and joe torre cardinal fans both lived in st louis & played for the cardinal ( and did not mr torre say the game would be forfeited it those”boorish fans” did knot stop throwing items onto the field & give the game to the cardinals
3) re: commissioner’s office: is not tony la russa there & a great influence
4) but, the braves did themselves in: so many errors!!
lesson learned: do not let homers ump games ( as in football when they found a saints fan would be an ump in that game) ump may mean well but subconsciously..what the heck is he thinking??!!!
Tootie Fruity
October 6th, 2012
7:23 am
Atlanta fans throw a bunch of garbage on the field and chant Chipper’s name? Pure trash I tell ya.
Plus, why was McCann pinch hitting? Couldn’t trust him in an important game? I concur!
Otis Nixon
October 6th, 2012
7:23 am
I am proud of the fans. Atlanta fans get ridiculed about having no passion. The initial reaction last night was great. Did it go on too long, absolutely. I’m just concerned that this will cause losses on the fan base and interest in baseball in ATL.
Ted Turner
October 6th, 2012
7:27 am
I think it is time I buy the team back from the current ownership and give the fans what they deserve.
Replacement Umps
October 6th, 2012
7:29 am
If you watch the replay, the ump made the call when he was already mid way in left field and only a second or two before the ball hit the ground. It was not called an infield fly when the ball was still over the infield or when the SS was clearly going to catch it.
George Washington
October 6th, 2012
7:46 am
Way to come through when the team needs you most chipper jones. Same story different day. Good riddance!
Glenn
October 6th, 2012
7:51 am
Sadly, this ump appeared to make the call after realizinghe ball was gonna drop. Do i question the timing and his motive , ” YES ” ! The call was bad judgement, the timing should remove him from baseball, ” just saying ” .
CA
October 6th, 2012
7:56 am
I wonder how fast FG would have screamed out to the field screaming IFR if the ball that was dropped was thrown to third, putting out the runner.
MackSandy
October 6th, 2012
8:04 am
Tough call, for sure. But your guy raised his arm, calling for the ball. And your guys committed a week’s worth of errors in a big game. Your fans, at the park, behaved like spoiled babies. Good thing your guys lost that war a while ago?
Laurie
October 6th, 2012
8:06 am
It’s OK Braves…I Love you Chipper, and I LOVE THE BRAVES!!!!!!!
CA
October 6th, 2012
8:11 am
Oh my goodness, I sit here asking myself, ‘Do I really live in a city where people think it is okay to throw debris and swear at officials while so many children are around?” I guess what gets me is that this really is a redneck thing to do, giving ATL one more black eye. I’m not calling all Atlantans rednecks, only the ones who swear and throw trash, then think it’s okay.
Jo Jo
October 6th, 2012
8:13 am
The chUMP made his call just before the ball hit the ground. MLB got this one wrong, but do not have the “balls” to right the wrong. I feel sorry for the Braves players. They should have thrown their trash and coolers out of their dugout, too.
Old Braves Fan
October 6th, 2012
8:15 am
Ii have been a very close follower of MLB for almost 60 years and have never seen a call that bad. SS was not even close to the infield and ump called infileld fly rule way too late in the procedss and then to make matters even worse Joe Torre had the audacity to say the call was correct. I would have feltd much better if they had at least admitted they got the call wrong but there was nothing they could do about it. NO this was not the reasons Braves lost–3 errors and failure to score with runners in scoring position and botched squeeze bunt will lose every time. Yes Braves fans likely overreacted but if you are a true Atlanta sports fan you can understand the passion that we have for all sports in Atlanta. Finally if Joe Simpson is paid by the Braves they need to cancel his contract–he was way over the top in his comments I think–yes it was embarassing but not nearly to the degree he kept pointing it out. I was quite frankly surprised it was not even wilder based on the passion that true Atlanta fans have coupled with one of the worst calls in major league history. GO BRAVES for 2013
Bob Tillman
October 6th, 2012
8:15 am
What in the world is this “safety squeeze” call for Simmons with the pitcher up next? Horrible low percentage call. Shaky managers get exposed in the playoffs.
Also, I would like to see what percentage of runners going to first run “inside” the base to first. I bet that it’s more the norm than the exception. That sounds like another rule that should be reviewed. All of the bad calls are horrible for baseball.
dixiedew
October 6th, 2012
8:16 am
Come on folks!! It’s just a game played by extremely spoiled and over paid “athletes!”
Tim
October 6th, 2012
8:17 am
With all the complaining about the umpires, I noticed that not one mentions Ross’s second chance after he struck out. Cmon, the guy was headed back to the dugout. Did you people that demand perfection want to give those 2 runs back? And as much as I like and admire Chipper, he was obviously out at 1st base and look at him….he knew it too
Ashlee
October 6th, 2012
8:18 am
LOSERS…hmm so many this can describe, braves, braves fans, braves, braves fans…
McGarrett
October 6th, 2012
8:20 am
Same old same old. Only this time they fell apart before they even had a chance to truly compete in playoffs. When will the ATL fanbase figure this thing out?
THEY DO THE SAME THANG AIR YEAR!!!!!!!
Carl Farvman
October 6th, 2012
8:25 am
“This “AtlantaLoser” person cites all the analysts on the MLB network supporting the call. First, no Cards fans needs to defend the call. They won the game, move on. Second, the MLB network analysts are MLB employees. Figure it out.”
Francona reviewed the play for the first time on-air after the game and concluded that he has no problem with the call. He stated that the way it was described to him verbally gave him the impression that the call was absolutely horrible…..similar to the way some of you are describing. The ump raised his hand after the SS set up under the ball and not right before it hit the ground. Those sayung otherwise simply don’t have a right to your own facts. This is a tough rule to understand since most baseball fans only know the very basic rules of the game. You know, the fans who BOO the visiting team if their pitcher makes a pickoff move to first more than 1 time per game.
Ted Turner
October 6th, 2012
8:30 am
The call was bad, the defense was worse.
Winners win and whiners whine.
If the Braves left more runners on base this year than any team in baseball. They still have work to do to improve this team.
74bravesjersey
October 6th, 2012
8:33 am
Sure the braves put themselves behind w/ stupid knucklehead errors, down deep someth’n was tell’n me, yep we screw’n ourselves & we did, but at the same time, the call made at crucial momment, when obvious at mid depth in left field, umpire making judgement call so late ball coming down, even billy Ripken,mlb network, espn analysts, agreed crucial excruciating! call by the ump took away key mommentum away from braves, bases loaded,1 out, McCann comming up, yeah, you may not know what the outcome could’ve been, he might’ve still hit into double play or k’d or what, but braves had that mommentum taken away, yeah the fans reacted to a obvious mommentum changer, if it was the cards up to bat same senario, he(ump) would’ve left that judgement alone, because it’s the cards. & by the way, the fans reaction out of obvious frustration, & if it was any where else, w/ the game on the line, say Boston, say New York(mets or Yankees fans), say philly, say Baltimore, & I would go as far to say washington, everybody & anybody who had a key mommentum taken away, the fans would’ve done the very same thing, why? sure, it shouldn’t happen, but, the fans payed good money to see a battle of a game,(w/o the numbskull errors of course) but w/ that, the infield fly rule was too crucial of a call way out in mid leftfield, yeah, all the other cities fans would’ve reacted the same way in the heat of the momment when after everybody cheered when the ball dropped. Yeah, Stl. won, but they backed in to the next round from that obvious crucial call, & thanks Joe for being so biased, excruciating, use to have respect for ya, go get that network job, be a puppet!
Iggy
October 6th, 2012
8:33 am
Ashamed of our fans? Noooo! For the 1st time in a long time our fans showed some true passion. Imagine if this call had happened in Wrigley, Fenway or the Bronx. Our fans’ reaction was tame compared to how those passionate fans would’ve reacted.
Carl Farvman
October 6th, 2012
8:33 am
“Did you people that demand perfection want to give those 2 runs back? And as much as I like and admire Chipper, he was obviously out at 1st base and look at him….he knew it too”
Very true. That was a very questionable time out given and,predictable, no ATL fans has mentioned it here. Just dwelling on a call they don’t understand And, yes, Chipper was out on a play that could have easily [replay supports this but national media stayed away for any commentary afterwards] been called the other way. No big deal,but he was out.
WORST CALL IN HISTORY
October 6th, 2012
8:37 am
For all you jerks on here trying to say that call was correct–GO POUND SAND. You are all idiots. And Joe Simpson is an idiot.
Devil lover
October 6th, 2012
8:37 am
Even though the infield fly rule may be an umpire ’s judgement rule i have not seen in my 50+ years of playing and watching baseball an umpire use that particular rule in that same identical situation.
And thank god I haven’t.
Carl Farvman
October 6th, 2012
8:38 am
Ashamed of our fans? Noooo! For the 1st time in a long time our fans showed some true passion. Imagine if this call had happened in Wrigley, Fenway or the Bronx. Our fans’ reaction was tame compared to how those passionate fans would’ve reacted.
So, relative to the most rude sports markets in the country, ATL isn’t that bad? I’m 55 and have never had the urge to throw something on the field of play out of frustration. That is white trash behavior at its finest. No other way to describe it.
Horner's Corner
October 6th, 2012
8:39 am
I don’t mind admitting that I have no problems with the trash on the field.
1) You ask an individual to pay top dollar to attend a game in person then you better provide a certain level of quality. That call was horrible. If the 3rd base umpire had been running out to make that call, like he would have done in any of the previous 162 games, it doesn’t occur. The fact that both Braves runners moved up 90 feet w/out a play is a pretty good indication that it was the wrong call.
2) That behavior has occurred at sporting events since people started paying money to watch. Holbrook should just be happy they don’t allow fans to bring rotten produce into the park anymore.
3) It’s the most passion I’ve ever seen from Braves fans. Imagine any other passionate baseball town like Chicago, Philly, Boston, or New York. They would have gone ape shyt.
4) Finally, MLB is only promoting this behavior by having a single game, winner-take-all playoff. That’s why you play an entire series, so bad calls and bad hops have a chance to even out.
hit a single
October 6th, 2012
8:39 am
Braves offense is terrible. We will blame the hitting coach as usual. Bottom line is that Braves are too cocky and don’t have a reason to be. Uggla is the worse hitting second baseman the Braves have ever had. Should have been benched earlier and they need another stick like Holiday.
nolegirl93
October 6th, 2012
8:40 am
This was an unfitting swansong for one Larry Wayne Chipper Jones. I think that is why the Atlanta fans were so outraged; there were so many bad calls in that game., But as Chipper said, the errors were what lost the game. And I am also happy the fans did not sit down on their hands. They were fired up and that’s awesome to see. So many Braves games, even playoff, where the fans are just sitting enjoying their overpriced food. Good to see enthusiasm. No embarrassment here.
Horner's Corner
October 6th, 2012
8:41 am
Btw, thanks for letting me get that off my chest.
Carl Farvman
October 6th, 2012
8:42 am
Even though the infield fly rule may be an umpire ’s judgement rule i have not seen in my 50+ years of playing and watching baseball an umpire use that particular rule in that same identical situation.
The pundits last night gave several examples when a similar call had been made. You just happened to be watching something else at the time or conveniently didn’t notice it because, perhaps, the call benefited your team.
WORST CALL IN HISTORY
October 6th, 2012
8:45 am
Disputed infield fly rule call tarnishes Cards win, first-ever wild-card game. From ESPN.
nolegirl93
October 6th, 2012
8:45 am
Oh and go Washington. I hope they sweep the Cards. I know its sour grapes but I would’ve much rather played Cincinnati. I hope the league disbands this ridiculous one game next year.
James
October 6th, 2012
8:46 am
Curse of Jim Leyritz continues.
nolegirl93
October 6th, 2012
8:49 am
And by the way, this is now in Wikipedia regarding the infield fly rule:
Following the controversy, Major League Baseball removed the irreverent phrase “We don’t understand the infield fly rule, either.” from its biography on its official Twitter feed.[7]
WORST CALL IN HISTORY
October 6th, 2012
8:50 am
The infield fly rule has never, I repeat never been called that far from home plate. 250 feet from home plate. Itg has never before happened.
henry tn
October 6th, 2012
8:51 am
the braves are a bunch of losers and the cards are a bunch of winners. it would not surprise me if the cards did not go all the way again….
ps the call was legal….
Jeva
October 6th, 2012
8:52 am
Now, let me begin by saying,” Thanks to the Braves for this season”. Now that Chipper Jones is done, I hope the fans of Atlanta reliaze how much of a waste he really was. Our infield has suffered with Chipper Jones at third, and his inconsistent fielding errors are the traits of a high school player learning to play in the show.Professionals are supposed to get it right on the field, off the field he can make errors. I hope Liberty Media is reading, Freddy Gonzalez has to be relieved of his duties, just say thanks and take the ball from him. The fans deserve better, this city is comprised of wonderful families who spend their hard earned money on this poorly ran organization, while the coach and players showcase their rewards, the fans wait for whenever. Mr. Malone, Please send Freddy and his Harley riding off in the sunset, and let the Braves rise to excellence.
Jeva
October 6th, 2012
8:53 am
realize, sorry
Prado's fan club
October 6th, 2012
8:54 am
Was anyone else bothered that Chipper did not hustle down the line in his last career at bat? I thought that was painfully embarrassing and the broadcasters did not mention it when you know they were thinking the same thing
Morris
October 6th, 2012
8:59 am
Really?? Think about this. Holliday picks up the loose ball. Forces runner out at third and maybe the cards turn a double play. Does anyone not think the braves are screaming how come the umpires did not protect the runners? Chipper is a class act. Took the criticism of his play and blamed himself. Shame that most of the fans at the game could not muster up the same class.
coach joe
October 6th, 2012
9:01 am
usual result , although highly unusual way to lose. Uggla has to go. He stinks… Bourne stunk the second half of the season.. resign but at what cost? McCann needs new shoulder and two new eyes.. Pitching looks solid. gonna miss Chipper.. spark when we needed it, but not tonight. fairwell tour wore him out carrying all the gifts home.
oh well… always next year…
henry tn
October 6th, 2012
9:02 am
it was not medlen’s fault he only gave up 2 earned runs it was your beloved jones simmons uggla an stupid simmons running out of the base line. those of you that said hudson should have started are the same ones that said medlen should have started a few days ago….
Bad Call
October 6th, 2012
9:02 am
It seems this umpire is familiar with making calls that end with debris on the field. Same thing happened when he ejected McGwire. And for all those calling the Braves fans classless unlike in St. Louis …
http://enquirer.com/editions/1998/08/30/spt_mcgwire30.html
AP
October 6th, 2012
9:08 am
I want to be a disgrace…. I want ATL fans to be known as the nastiest in the nation…it’d be about time and maybe change our luck!
Turtsnap
October 6th, 2012
9:10 am
I agree with Chipper….. no one can say whether that call cost us the game, our errors cost us the game……. But MLB has a serious blackeye with their silly Wild Game play in format. Awful, just plain AWFUL!!!
daSarge
October 6th, 2012
9:18 am
Turner Field, located in a ghetto and surrounded by TRASH showed the country how trash fans react when things don’t go their way. The ump made the right call so go suck on it! The Brave lost because Choker Jones, Simpleton Simmons and Damn Uggla made stupid errors that led to 5 runs! Atlanta Braves fans are horrible and I am laughing my ass off that they and their team of losers lost again in a playoff’s deciding game! Have another cold one, LOSERS!
Srv63
October 6th, 2012
9:19 am
I have never seen a more classless group of fans than the ones I saw at the Braves/Cardinals wildcard game. Not only because of the childish display of throwing debris but also the weak ovation for future hall of famer Chipper Jones. Way to go Atlanta, you should all be embarassed!!!
ajcretiree
October 6th, 2012
9:20 am
how is it possible to apply the “infield” fly rule in left field?
English Speaking White Guy
October 6th, 2012
9:21 am
DOB – who is Joe Simpson actually employed by? What a shill!!! He calls the fans an embarrassment and yet Uggla can go 0 for 30 and Simpson says that he thinks that Uggla is ready to break out.
stl
October 6th, 2012
9:22 am
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stl
October 6th, 2012
9:26 am
thats tbs………its not the turner broadcasting system for nothing.
cards sting again………..atlanta must have brought those fans in from Lybia or Egypt
Tom
October 6th, 2012
9:28 am
As soon as the cameras showed Jimmy Carter at the game, I knew that the Braves were done for. Its the “Carter Curse”. Every time Carter is at a Braves game, they lose. The loser ex-pres brings his cloud of “malaise” and spreads it everywhere. Didn’t he have a hammer to nail or an American canal to give away?
Do us a favor ex…stay away from the Braves games!
Ben Hogan
October 6th, 2012
9:28 am
The game was lost on sloppy play by the Braves, not the call.
Infield fly call was bad but, remember, the Braves got the benefit of two runs on acontroversial HR after the batter initially struck out. Calls even out and teams level out. Cards will always be better than Braves… STL is a baseball town, ATL is a football town… at least Georgia has the Dawgs to beat up on Mizzou now in the SEC.
coach k
October 6th, 2012
9:34 am
Worst call ever in a playoff game. That’s not we lost. All yr can’t hit with RISP and came back to bite us. Every yr we are in the playoffs this Braves team is just not mentally ready, coaching boys. We need to take a look at coaching to players, we need a few BLUE COLLAR TYPES!
74bravesjersey
October 6th, 2012
9:35 am
Infield fly rule really needs adjustments. The call should be made only in accordance around just outskirts edge of the dirt & grass if give a couple feet or 2, where’s Bud selig in all this, does Torre, & Garigiola have jurisdiction over him? & the call being made by Leftfield umpire, not by infield umpire, well this rule should be made for what it’s actual title is, infield – fly Rule made for plays in & around infield, until they come up with a mid-outfield fly rule, I might understand, but like Billy ripken said for the sake of fielders not letting balls drop on purpose to save for the harm of a double play, the runners by the naked eye, obvious, the play way out in mid left-field & if an infielder goes out their to retrieve, it should be he’s out their on his own factor. This “Clowny” call by hair lip Holebrook really needs to be investigated, & studied upon much deeper, this call,ruling should blatently be made for infield area, edge of dirt & grass judgement play, not for mid-range Leftfield or all midrange outfield. Yep stl. you gotta love the extra help & support you got for going into the next round. You BACKED DOORED YOURSELVES to the next round, Go Nats, stl. got in by w/ a li’l help by their friends, all by da’ Joes, Joe Holebrook, Joe Torre, Joe Grrigiola, & Lambash’n atl fan Joe simpson fits right in, Yeah Braves did not do like they should, los’n their brains w/ poor fielding, no clutch hitting w/ runners in scoring position, but ya’ll didn’t need the umpires smil’n at’cha on the field, sure Rossy’s homer may have been a do over pitch, but before loshe started his windup, He called time, it was a delayed reaction by the homeplate ump, cause ross had his backhand up, & verbally requesting time before loshe went into his windup.
74bravesjersey
October 6th, 2012
9:36 am
@coach k; Agreed!
coach k
October 6th, 2012
9:39 am
WORST call I have seen in awhile. That call did not beat us. This team yr after yr is not mentally tough in post season and they get out played and out coached. 3 errors, 12 men in scoring position, just one mental lapse after another. Need couple blue collar types and take a long look at Uggla, a joke and Fredi. What the hell was Bourn doing on that fly ball that scored a run, caught it flat footed and terrible throw to home, don’t offer him ridiculous money, he bailed 2nd half. pissed off for another offseason that we should have gone much farther
Ben
October 6th, 2012
9:44 am
Torre has no backbone. Sure it is a judgement call(a cop out answer), but the rule was not properly administered. Not immediate, no one under the ball, and who knew the infield extends halfway from baseline to the fence.
What no one is saying is the SS messed up running back into the LF way(the ump bailed HIM out).
BobbyDawg
October 6th, 2012
9:44 am
I went to the game and really enjoyed the atmosphere. There’s nothing like a good baseball game with a packed house. I left there kinda wondering where the infield ends and the outfield starts. We had a pretty deeeeep infield last night. Even with the loss I’m pretty stoked about our upcoming Braves. The pitching is looking very promising, and we have a pretty good lineup of hitters. With Chipper leaving that should open the bank account up a little so we can buy another good hitter. As for Uggla, I say keep him for at ;east another season. I’d hate to let him go and then next year be his best yet. Building a championship team takes time and I think we’re on the right track to win it all in the near future. I’m still suspect of our hitting or batting coach, because our hitters all seem to slump at the same time which indicates lack of work in the batting cage which comes back to coaching. You don’t get batting practice on the golf course. I’m REALLY looking forward to next year. GO BRAVOS
hudson
October 6th, 2012
9:49 am
Look you die hard fans you should have seen it coming.The braves or the braves of old with a lot of young faces.The team had a old player that made a costly mistake that cost them three runs.So with that being said thats the last oice of the puzzle that needs to go.Face it if he don’t admite to his erros then who will.P.S CHIPPER COST THE TEAM THE GAME……………..
SAL2177
October 6th, 2012
9:50 am
I don’t think the call (albeit a bad one) had anything to do with the outcome of the game. The game was lost on costly errors. I really don’t understand everyone bad mouthing Medlen. He pitched a great game and only gave up two earned runs.
Baseball fan
October 6th, 2012
9:51 am
Watch MLBTV to have the infield fly rule call explained. Watch ESPN to see several examples of this call made during the regular season. The umps got the call right. That makes the story of the night the ridiculous actions of the fans.Sorry Atlanta, you lost fair and square.
SAL2177
October 6th, 2012
9:54 am
@Ben – Stop blaming the loss on the bad call. You can play that card all day long. If the Braves had not have given up 4 unearned runs, the call wouldn’t have mattered. The errors, particularly the one by Chipper, is what cost them the game.
Alvin
October 6th, 2012
9:57 am
Frank Wren has no business apologizing for the behavior of the Atlanta fans. They were perfectly justified in showing their outrage. Every other city would have responded the same way!!
Alvin
October 6th, 2012
9:59 am
Try to justify it any way you want. Buster Olney reports that this ball was 50 feet further out than ANY OTHER INFIELD FLY RULE ball that dropped in the last 6 years. That’s making up the rules as you go.
yeah
October 6th, 2012
10:06 am
“classless team followed by classless fans” Really? Are you kidding me? If this call happened to the red sox in this situation, the entire city would be in flames right now. I stand behind every fan that threw litter, it was deserved.
I just wish someone had thrown a baseball at the retarded umpire and knocked him unconscious.
truth teler
October 6th, 2012
10:07 am
Is it the umps fault for the Braves getting 1 hit with runners in scoring position? Or did the umps through sand in our defenders eyes when they committed 3 errors.
What you witnessed was a text book CHOKE. The moment was too big for Chipper, Ugla, Simmons, Prado. Combined they earned about 40 million this year.
Braves have ZERO wins in the last 5 ‘winner take all games’.
yeah
October 6th, 2012
10:08 am
And when you say “dont blame it on the call”
Yes, the braves made plenty of mistakes. And guess what? We paid for them. Cardinals got runs.
So now the Cardinals make a mistake with miscommunication in the outfield, and the braves SUFFER from an error on the cardinals? Thats ridiculous.
Braves 73
October 6th, 2012
10:08 am
SAL2177 – Wow, if you think that any of us REAL Braves fans are blaming the loss on one call you miss the point. The point is that even with 3 errors, 12 men left on base, and no clutch hits, the Braves were still robbed of an opportunity that could have changed the whole complexion of the game. To just spout “Stop blaming the loss on the bad call”, is foolhardy and not true to what could possibly be one of the worst calls ever made.
The situation would have been with the right call the following: Score 6-4, bases loaded, one out, and Brian Mccann at the plate (which he ended up walking in that inning). Go ahead and say that the call had no affect, but the only thing us Braves fans wanted, was just the easy/right call to be made.
John
October 6th, 2012
10:09 am
No…not classless fans! Fans who stand up for what’s right! Atlanta fans, you did the right thing. No wimps there! Let’s not ever stop standing up for what is right. Yes indeed, a terrible call! Let’s never forget! And I’m a Yankee fan just standing up for what is right.
Ben
October 6th, 2012
10:13 am
@sal2177 – I never said the bad call was the reason for the loss. No one will ever know the result if not for this bad call.
David O'Brien
October 6th, 2012
10:13 am
Overshadowed by the sloppy D and infield-fly controversy: Braves were again terrible with RISP (1-for-8). Hurt them entire second half of season. Stranded 12 runners last night.
coach k
October 6th, 2012
10:17 am
we need an overhaul from the top. Need an attiute ajustment. Same lame ass approach to the playoffs since 91, can’t get this team mentally ready, its now unacceptable
Steven Bogard
October 6th, 2012
10:17 am
Joe Torre is a coward. Why have a rule on the books that allows teams to lodge a protest, if you won’t even take one moment to consider if the protest has merit? “No,” Torre says. “It’s a judgement call. We’ve just got to move on to the next game.” A judgment call? Any good shortstop can catch a high popup on the warning track in left field; so anything as far out as the ball in question in this game was obviously not in the infield and the infield fly rule did not and should not have applied. A T-ball first grader could have figured this one out, but six guys getting $100,000 or more each to umpire these games couldn’t. With so much money on the line for these major league teams and only one playoff game to decide the wild card games, there has to be a real system set up in place by MLB to protest a game like this. What would Torre consider a reasonable protest to be – an umpire actually out-and-out throwing a game for money? Would that be enough, or would “precious time” to move on to the next set of games still take precedence? Like I said, Joe Torre is a coward and will never enforce the protest rule because the rule has no teeth and Torre has shown that he doesn’t have the guts or the character to enforce anything. This is one of the worst calls in sports playoff history. Shame on Joe Torre and shame on Major League Baseball for letting this horrible call stand.
Casey
October 6th, 2012
10:20 am
Atlanta Braves Fans are a disgrace!
Steve
October 6th, 2012
10:44 am
You almost looked like real fans by showing up and cheering, but then your true colors came out. I am so happy to be a Cardinals fan. We are first class!
Marc Williams
October 6th, 2012
10:46 am
Yes it was a bad call! The Braves lost the game because of there errors not because of that call. Thank you Chipper for 19 years of great service my family and I have enjoyed watching you play.
Charlie L
October 6th, 2012
10:56 am
The Outfield Fly Rule.
Daryl Just Daryl
October 6th, 2012
11:00 am
I would like to file a protest as well. Can someone tell me why the city of Atlanta still has a major league baseball team? I’m almost certain the people of Indianapolis, or Memphis, or Oklahoma City would not behave like that.
Chief Wahoo
October 6th, 2012
11:08 am
A big thank you to Atlanta fans for sticking up for your team. That was a awful call since the premise of the infield fly rule is to prevent a team from getting an “extra out. There was no chance for it on this play. Cleveland fans get most of the blame for bad behavior, and we’ve been know to throw a few projectiles onto the field of play. This incident has taken some of the attention away from us. At least you had a good season- as we say in Cleveland, always next year..
Coach D
October 6th, 2012
11:14 am
Freddi needs to get a pair & get thrown out of a game every once in a while. Last night would have been a PERFECT opportunity!
don
October 6th, 2012
11:17 am
I find no fault with the fans. they paid big dollars to go to the game. Their display of their displeasure was appropriate. I only wish I could have been there to throw a few items myself. No apology here.
And, yes, Simpson should be fired.
Alice
October 6th, 2012
11:23 am
I’m sure Skip Carey was rolling over in his grave on that infield fly rule call. I remember so many times when he not-so-patiently and not-so-cheerfully explained it on his call-in show and on broadcasts. How ironic that it became such a focus in this game. By the way, the throwing errors did us in, but the new format stinks. One and done just isn’t baseball.
Jim Taylor
October 6th, 2012
11:25 am
Was hoping for Nats to face Braves, but guess we’ll have to deal with the Cards NATITUDE
Ty
October 6th, 2012
11:27 am
Interesting to read most of the posts focus on the call and play – Yet few go to the heart of the issue. Either MLB MUST put replay into the post-season games. Last night COULD have been EASILY avoided by doing this and recognizing the error, putting bases loaded, and moving on to let the play on the field determine the outcome. Even the Vegas odds-makers wouldn’t touch the chance any protest will be upheld for ANY game in the post-season since MLB is now looking at ending near Thanksgiving . . there is NO TIME left in the schedule to fix it the ‘old way’ . . replay is the only path forward.
Of course, I am in that group of fans who recognize that the pain for us was swift vs. prolonged by another series where the Braves get swept away.
Charles
October 6th, 2012
11:32 am
I moved to Atlanta in 1979 after law school and became a loyal Braves fan through some great years when Torre managed the team with Knucksie, Murphy and Horner, to the disastrous years of the late 80s, from last to first in 1991, to a World Series win in 1995. Moved to DC in 2000 but still loyally followed them through the remaining years of division champs and season ending frustration, followed by the recent vintage of reliably consistent inconsistency. That inconsistency was on view this entire season and was displayed to the entire nation last night — a pitcher who can’t lose loses when it counts the most, a regally decorated Hall of Famer throwing an easy double play ball into deep right field, and repeated failures to hit with RISP. Take away Chipper’s swan song error and its a tie game. Take away Simmons stupid baserunning for an interference call and the runner scores from third for a Braves win, even with the muffed infield fly call. The muffed infield fly call would have at best made the score 6-5 and the Braves would still have lost. This was for me my swan song as a Braves fan — just as Sid sliding home has sunk the Pirates for years, so will the muffed fly be the start of decades of famine for this inept organization. Thanks for years of effort Chipper — you’re getting out at just the right time. The Braves fans need to be realistic about this team. The “corporate” Cox/Scherholz management worked reasonably well when there was an owner (Ted) who was willing to take the losses to get the players that were needed but that model lacked the intensity of effort to be competitive when it counted, as the years of division crowns with only one WS title showed.. Those days are gone and the corporate model no longer works. Chipper had a career year, Medlen was outstanding — you can’t duplicate that next year with Uggla, the oft-injured McCann, an aging Hudson, etc. They Braves need to run the team like Oakland and TB if they want to consistently return to the playoffs instead of trading for players who were former stars like Uggla. The Nats, my new team, are built for the future. They cleaned house 2 years ago and are reaping the dividends. But despite their success I still rooted for the Braves this season in frustration as they never came close to winning the division and thus went to the Las Vegas one shot WC game where anything can happen and it did. Last night we saw rock bottom play by the Braves whose pundits now desperately attempt to pin the loss on a muffed call that would not have changed the outcome. I can’t do this anymore. Best of luck Braves. You’ll need it. Go Nats!
Worst game ever
October 6th, 2012
11:36 am
I think a point that needs to be made is that we fans already were infuriated with a number of horrific decisions by the umpires (balls/strikes, plays at first, etc.) long before the “outfield fly.” There was a commercial featuring umpires shown on the big screen earlier in the game and we were so livid at them already that we were booing that COMMERCIAL. If you realize the extent of fans’ frustration and anger — in addition to the fact that this game never should have been played anyway but was another “improvement” from the so-called mind of the dictator Selig — you will see that that horrible call was just the final straw. I didn’t throw anything and don’t think people should have, but those who criticize how we reacted clearly were not there and/or are pious hypocritical Cards fans, who would have done the same thing under the same circumstances. (Also, I’ve lost all respect for Joe Torre, who said that was a good call. Poor Joe used to know baseball, I believe.)
short memories
October 6th, 2012
11:36 am
That Sam Holbrook said he would make the same call again after reviewing the replay shows that he should be removed from baseball. He is a 330 lb inbred from Kentucky who needs to go back to the Appalachian league that he came from.
Brenda
October 6th, 2012
11:38 am
I have to agree the Braves played a really bad game, but I also think that when you are playing any game you should never have to play against the umpires. In my opinion if the people in the position to review and reverse a bad call don’t have the gonads to change it then maybe you should not be in that positions. It is just like the go ole boys club, whatever the umps say no matter how bad they will stick with it. Maybe you guys should think about another profession.
Worst game ever
October 6th, 2012
11:38 am
Wow, Charles. The Braves really don’t need fans like you. Hope they have space for you on the Nats bandwagon. Good riddance.
ED Starbird
October 6th, 2012
11:43 am
Since when, does a outfield have a infield fly rule? I’m losing respect of the leadership of baseball not recognizing this. Absoloutly astounding Decisions like this will lose fan support in Baseball as is, happening, in Football, now.
Ken Stallings
October 6th, 2012
11:45 am
Having taken a night to think on this, the simple truth is that the call remains brutally wrong and MLB suffered a black eye every bit as pronounced as the Braves suffered for their self-inflicted wounds with the errors and unearned runs.
The Braves literally threw the game away and they will have to live with that.
But, that gives the umpires zero slack. They deserve to be held accountable and should be fired. But, MLB will not fire them because umpires have way too much influence in the game. Charlie Relaford was the fat dude sitting beside Joe Toree. Relaford is the Supervisor of Umpires in MLB. Something I did not write about last night was the outright cockiness Relaford displayed at that press conference.
At the very least, no cockiness should be on display by anyone associated with MLB. Instead, humility and apoligy should be the order of the day. The call was wrong. Attempts to justify the call are as stupid and dishonest as when one umpire literally tried to say that a grounder that bounced fair prior to the third base sack, and then bounced fair after passing the bag, was actually foul when it passed over the bag!
Utter nonsense! The effort by the umpire to use this statement to try to claim it was an accurate call, was mindless arrogance to defend the indefensible.
The statements made by the three umpires (including Relaford as the supervisor) was equally indefensible. What if the Braves had tied the game given the chance to have bases loaded with no outs? If McCann had walked as he did, then the score is 6-4 with bases loaded and no outs. A fly to the outfield would have scored the runner from third and it is 6-5 and inning continues. The same pressure the Braves felt would have transferred to the Cards.
Absent the throwing errors, it could have then made the score 5-1, and we have Kimbrel come in to close it down. Obviously that is all theoretical, but the umpires must always apply the rulebook accurately and fairly and last night they failed.
74bravesjersey
October 6th, 2012
11:45 am
The mid – outfield fly rule is in affect. Sams judgement call. Aren’t all calls made a judgement call, really Torre really?
STL CARDS FAN
October 6th, 2012
11:48 am
You braves fans are really quick to blame the umps for this loss. It wasnt like a 3 run homer was called back. How quickly you forget that if it wasnt for a bad call by those Umpires Ross never would of hit that 2 run homerun after the umpire called time while Loshe’s pitch was in flight. You guys suck
nathan
October 6th, 2012
11:51 am
call was bad but watchingg the umpires sit up there and defend call was worsed they think sitting up there lying their butts off is going to make anyone who can see think it is the right call? Be a man and admitt it and move on, like denninger and jim Joyce did. Why have have extra umpires anyway. Look at Yankee Mayer Homerun that wasn’t call made by right field umpire. They are not out there all year, then you put them out there out of play basically and all of the sudden they have to wake up and make a call taht can decide a game? show me one time when an outfield umpire made a correct call a base umpire would not have. plus if this call was so right why did the third base umpire make no attempt to call it?
Brian
October 6th, 2012
11:54 am
Last nights performance by the umpires and the whole 1 game playoff concept makes me question if I want to continue to support Major League Baseball’s product. What happened last night was a complete load of you know what. Nothing in baseball is properly settled in one game. The whole league is built on the 3 game series. The fans may have thrown trash on the field, but the umps and MLB have s**t the bed on this one.
I think maybe my time could be better spend on something else than supporting a product that gives the finger to it’s fans as it did last night. Maybe I will take up knitting.
GMeep
October 6th, 2012
12:01 pm
First of all, the reaction of the fans at the stadium was pathetic. Just backs up the rest of the country’s perception of the south being full of uneducated and uncivilized hillbillies. Secondly, no doubt that was one of the worst calls in MLB history, but I don’t think it really would have changed anything. After watching the horrible defense and lack of timely hitting with men on base, the Braves may have closed the gap by a run or two, but it wouldn’t have changed the outcome. Thirdly, listening to the players complain about having two wild card teams and a one game playoff, just makes them sound stupid. If they had a problem with then why didn’t they complain to the players union before it was agreed to by all sides. Complaining now just makes you look like poor losers! Braves had a great season & Chipper had a great career, but both ended in the most pathetic way imaginable.
74bravesjersey
October 6th, 2012
12:02 pm
So, those of you, come on here to call Atl classless, just anything for a kneejerk, the call, infield fly-rule needs to make clearer definition, I’d say2 or 3 feet beyond from the edge of the dirt & grass. This was mid-field left field, which obviously is an outfield pop fly, infielder goes out there, that’s way beyond infield jurisdiction. “That’s a clowny call Bro.” A CLASSLESS CALL, & helped the redbirds backdoor themselves to the next round, classless! Same reaction would’ve been layed out there by Boston,philly, bronx fans any city who sees that was a mommentum changer, Holbrook, you’re classless, Torre, classless, what’s Bud selig’s take on this? Man, & they say atl fan’s are too mellow for baseball.
Dave
October 6th, 2012
12:03 pm
@Biff I agree with you on Ugla but you’re way wrong about Medlen. He only gave up 3 hits and 2 earned runs!! It was the errors and not being able to hit with runners in scoring position that lost the game, plain and simple!
don
October 6th, 2012
12:05 pm
Everyone appreciates what Jones has done for the Braves. However, if we are honest, we know that he accounted for three runs in the game- all three for the Cardinals. Losing that lead was the turning point in the game. The Braves, as should have been expected, never recovered. Holbrook’s call was wrong and hurt. But, the game was already decided. Still, it does give fans something to whine about rather than pinning the blame, if we must do so, on the real source for the loss- Chipper’s error.
And, if we want to be further honest, we know that he was out at first.
don
October 6th, 2012
12:09 pm
Simmons left a lot to be desired, too. Whoever called for the bunt, Gonzalez or Simmons, was a fool. The lead-footed Freeman coming in on a delayed squeeze. Get real. Simmons running down the base line was the most blatant out of the baseline exhibition possibly in baseball history. Unbelievably dumb for an alleged major leaguer.
Tracey
October 6th, 2012
12:10 pm
Sorry Chipper.
DavidMA
October 6th, 2012
12:10 pm
The ironic part of this call is that only a few weeks ago Atlanta fans were adamant that it was the 5 Peyton Manning interceptions that lost the game for the Broncos and the poor officiating had nothing to do with it. Shoe on the other foot and 3 errors combined with a base running blunder or 2 by the Braves and their drunken Hillbilly fans decide to try and kill someone by throwing beer bottles.
Blue Flame
October 6th, 2012
12:10 pm
Bad defense cost Braves the game. But as a long time Braves fan, I was glad to see the fans’ reaction to the terrible call. Atlanta fans have always been insulted as apathetic by the national media. Now that we show some passion, we’re no class rednecks?
Can’t win.
74bravesjersey
October 6th, 2012
12:12 pm
Buster onley even quoted about the call being poor judgement, Billy ripken mlb said it changed the mommentum from the Braves feet, crucial, stupid, They are stating the obvious, I’m glad atl fans gotten frustrated over these wreckless futile calls. Gosh, yes, the stupid nonsense errors made we’re crap, got that, & I think alot of atl fans are tired of the boneheaded play in crucial momments.
don
October 6th, 2012
12:12 pm
the country needs a lot more rednecks and a lot less politically correct imps.
smallmouth6
October 6th, 2012
12:13 pm
Why would think the game “was already decided” before the terrible call was made. The Cards scored three runs after Chipper’s error and they didn’t have the bases loaded. As all the players say, giving pros an extra chance often leads to disaster. We will never know if the game was already decided. Terrible call by an obnoxious umpire who should have been watching the foul line and not the infield fly rule.
dan
October 6th, 2012
12:14 pm
thing happen that should not happen but that is the way lifegoes i think they weer playing to hard but i will go with them win lose draw
smallmouth6
October 6th, 2012
12:14 pm
STL Cards Fan: Wrong.
Tom A. Hawkchop
October 6th, 2012
12:14 pm
Maybe the Braves Jinx is that infernal chant that is like nails in the ears, and a tiny step above ‘the wave’.. But agreed, Sam Holbrook replaces Jim Joyce (blown call on the perfect game) as the most recent example of MLB’s umpire with ‘the worst call in memory’.
Blue Flame
October 6th, 2012
12:14 pm
And the way Chipper was swinging at first pitches all night, it was like he left his car running. It seemed like he was in a hurry to move on from baseball and into a deer stand.
Bourn needs to go. Too many strikeouts for a lead off man.
Eddie
October 6th, 2012
12:15 pm
The call was a judgement call just like the call that benefitted the braves that led to a homerun when late time was called by your player
74bravesjersey
October 6th, 2012
12:18 pm
I’m w/ ya Blue Flame; but the one, that was calling out, railing on most of all was our dearly beloved Joe Simpson, I can understand to be biased to a point, & these folks comin’ on here to call us hillbilies, you must love hillbillies cause you on here w/ us.
Peter
October 6th, 2012
12:18 pm
After the ball is hit in the air, you should hear the umpire yell, “Infield fly, batter is out.” If you don’t hear the umpire yell that, then assume the rule doesn’t apply.
Tracey
October 6th, 2012
12:19 pm
They are replaying the game now on MLB channel for those that want to view it.
braveinnj1963
October 6th, 2012
12:21 pm
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74bravesjersey
October 6th, 2012
12:21 pm
Yep, but he was holler’n for time & rais’n his back hand toward the ump before the windup was even started, Yeah, this game was full of slow reactionary umpiring especially in crucial momments, so we’ll never know huh?
74bravesjersey
October 6th, 2012
12:23 pm
@ Peter; Good point.
braveinnj1963
October 6th, 2012
12:27 pm
The infield fly has never been called like that before. it is an embarrasment. We have all seen balls drop between infielder and outfielder. It is embarrassing enough that they blew the call then to not have it overturned by any ump on the field is mindboggling. The post game explanation by Torre is beyond the pale. Fans should have no respect for MLB How about a little integrity. Admit the umpires blew the call and apologize to the Braves and their fans. this the umps did nothing wrong is ridiculuous
74bravesjersey
October 6th, 2012
12:29 pm
@ Blue Flame; Yeah, I got irked at chipper, crucial clutch time runners 2nd & 3rd, swingin’ hack’n at the 1st pitch, when was hope’n he’d take a pitch or 2, to work the count, when behind, take a strike, grant it might’ve been a strike, he hit it right at somebody, but each at bat, each pitch was crucial, make a good quality at bat. Love chipper, but man, needed a big one at that point, If it would’ve been a hit 2 runs would’ve scored, been down by one.
cdog
October 6th, 2012
12:33 pm
finally, the season has ended.i was proud of the atlanta fans for standing up for the braves . for years, atlanta has been getting jitted by officials.notice how calm freddie gonzalez took it.the braves should go in another direction with a manager who is a winner not a loser like gonzalez.terry francona, bobby valentine, ozzie guillen as a few to name.players who should not be braves next year are eric hinski, dan uggla, tommy hanson, michael bourne,johnny venters,brian mccann, just to name a few.players to build on for next season are jason heyward,freddie freeman, martin prado, jose constanza,andrelton simmons, david ross and the rest should be brought in but these losers above especially bourne who is a born loser shouldn”t not be considered.the pitching staff is alright except for hanson and venters.this will be an interesting off season.
Winner
October 6th, 2012
12:36 pm
Cardinals, 12 in ‘12
What about the bad call of time out when the pitch was on the way allowing for a atlanta hr?
infield fly rule did not cost atl the game, atl did not produce, even getting gifted 2 runs in a bad call.
you had your chance atl, you blew it.
the better team won, just like last years match up to end atl’s season
74bravesjersey
October 6th, 2012
12:36 pm
brave-63′, no better said, How they handled this was classless, futile, anybody knows what’s selig’s take on this. Does Torre’s decision from the protest out weigh Bud’s assessement, would they have had jurisdiction over him. They might need to re-do the writing of the rule to make it much clearer, or make a knew outfield fly rule if they gotta be that dunce about the call, Classless!
74bravesjersey
October 6th, 2012
12:38 pm
Yeah, a better team w/ a little help from the boys in the suits, backing in to the next round. Go Nats!
Rhettt
October 6th, 2012
12:38 pm
Management has built the Braves as a long season contender, not a short series contender. Bobby Cox managed beautifully as a season long grind-it-out manager. But in the short term, lack of emotion,
laid-back-attitude, lack of passion will not work in a short series. Go all the way back to 1991. For three years the Braves played with passion. David Justice evoked passion in the 1995 World Series, and, at last, the Braves won. Errors, questionable mpire rulings, and such are not the problem. When a team lacks passion, look for a quick exit, the Braves for many years.
Not a Belly Acher
October 6th, 2012
12:39 pm
Hmmm, I don’t see any mention here about the home plate ump’s late time out call as Loshe was in his windup and technically should not have been called. The pitch was a strike and he should have been out. A HR the next pitch, two runs. The left field ump’s call, might have cancelled out those two runs, so everything evened out. And, how many fans noticed that Molina walked out in front of the plate to stop the game and let Chipper receive his applause in the 9th?
74bravesjersey
October 6th, 2012
12:39 pm
Call it Mid-outfield fly rule, ball not even caught, classless!
Carlchamblee
October 6th, 2012
12:40 pm
In George Brett’s last at bat he hit a routine grounder to second base but ran full out and was barely thrown out at first. He said it was the perfect way to go, showing the younger players how you always hustle.
Chipper jogged to first conceding the out in his last at bat. And when the season is on the line to boot. He got lucky that the first baseman couldn’t find the bag twice and/or the ump missed the call.
Braves did a massive choke job once again in front of their fans. Simmons I can see being a nervous rookie under his first postseason glare, but Chipper and Ugglas poor defense no excuse. Uggla is terrible I was one of the few doubting that trade since we already had a better second baseman in Prado. I got reamed for it around here especially by O’Brien who said anyone who doubts the trade is a fool who knows nothing about baseball. Uggla has been a complete bust.
The bunt call by Fredi in Simmons at bat was stupid. A suicide squeeze might have made some sense at least compared to a safety squeeze, but with the pitcher on deck and one out you don’t concede Simmons at bat for a low possibility he puts the bunt in a perfect spot for the slow Freeman to score from third without running on the pitch. There was a much higher chance of Simmons getting Freeman home by swinging away in that situation. Horrible decision.
Kudos to David Ross the one Brave who rose up.
Brock
October 6th, 2012
12:43 pm
My question is this- when does it become an outfield fly ball? when it gets to the fence? As a fan of baseball and the game that was simply an awful call.
74bravesjersey
October 6th, 2012
12:43 pm
Yeah game full of slow reactions by umpiring, I’ve mentioned about it my self, Ross was trying to call time blue before Loshe started his windup. Too bad the ump did not catch on quick enough.
74bravesjersey
October 6th, 2012
12:45 pm
Hey Freeman was also playing w/ some attitude, he was gett’n after it.
buzzer
October 6th, 2012
12:52 pm
How in the heck can we get rid of Uggla? Do we have to give up a pitcher to get rid of him?
I’ll take our pitchers Freeman,Prado,JHey,Simmons. Get rid of everybody else.
What can we get for in return? Bag o balls?
Trade the entire team besides those guys for SOMEBODY ELSE.
Sorry MAC, but we r in a recession/depression. Cant give u 13 mill for being good guy.
harry taylor
October 6th, 2012
12:56 pm
The Braves have no one to blame except themselves and an old 3rd baseman that can’t field. The 3 errors cost 4 unearned runs which was the key to the game.
Face it, Braves can’t win in the post season. Been over 10 years, since they have won a post season series.
Carlchamblee
October 6th, 2012
12:57 pm
Youre right 74 Freeman played a solid game too and was clutch. He and Rossy were the bright spots. Bullpen was fine also.
jojo blanks
October 6th, 2012
1:01 pm
If you pay Bourn, it will just freak him out to be the highest paid full time player and then the pressure will get to him. He’d tank.
Move on, hes done-…….less he likes the ATL. Then work a deal for 3or 4?
Hes prob gone cause this maybe his only chance to make the big money with his steals.
Whats hard to fathom is how we have no hitters coming up in the minors. Do u have to tank your team to get draft picks?
As long as Cox&Friends in control we aint going no where.
Mike McDonald
October 6th, 2012
1:10 pm
@ Carichamblee & buzzer:
You are both spot on.
DawgNole
October 6th, 2012
1:10 pm
We Will Get Fooled Again
October 5th, 2012
8:49 pm
The culture of choking continues. Everything was set up for us to exorcise some demons tonight. We had Medlen on the mound with a rocking crowd and a 2-0 lead. Only the Braves could blow it so spectacularly . . . The choking never stops. The inability to win at Turner Field in October never stops. Maybe we just need to be like Cubs fans and accept that we are destined to a lifetime of failure in the postseason.
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ONLY the Braves? Pretty ignorant post. You don’t know crap about ATL if you think it’s ONLY the Braves.
Maybe it would be a little easier to swallow if it were only one team, but “blowing it spectacularly” has been the hallmark of EVERY ATL pro team EVERY year of its existence (except the ‘95 Braves). That’s ONE championship in 156 seasons of competition in this city–a tradition of futility matched by no one.
Brian
October 6th, 2012
1:18 pm
Atlanta fans, you are preaching to the quire. You really don t expect Cardinal fans to feel your pain do you ? After all, the call you are so upset about happened in a first round wild card game. Try digesting a blown call in game 6 of a World Series. Anyone remember Don Denkinger from 1985 ? The way I see it, you have 27 years to let it fester before you get any sympathy from me !
Dave StL
October 6th, 2012
1:25 pm
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klaus
October 6th, 2012
1:26 pm
This winter consider doing the following.
Trade Mac, Uggla and Hanson for a combination of prospects and or ML ready talent. Put Prado back at 2B where he should have stayed.
Release the entire bench apart from Juan & Ross. Pastornicky is a toss in as part of trade IMHO not some super utility player find for ATL.
Trade an arm pkge to Texas for Elvis and then trade one of Elvis or Simmons to AZ for Justin Upton.
Sign BJ Upton for CF
Make a run at Greinke and or Peavy.
I would rather have Peavy’s power arm in the rotation over Hanson’s and possibly Hudson. Greinke is the Ace you don’t have today. He may not come here but a player of his caliber is needed to anchor this rotation.
Get a defensive whiz behind the plate and move Bethancourt into over drive re: his training & development. Ross is back one more year maybe in a platoon role versus a one a week back up.
Give Juan a shot a 3B with the requirement he gets in better shape over the winter & works on his approach at the plate and at 3B.
Use one of the trade scenarios above to get a 3B prospect into the system. BTW If Terds name comes up again as the replacement for Chipper we are screwed. He is not very good. A better version of Pastornicky at 3B.
Some other cocktail of players may work but in 2013 we need new faces in CF, LF and 3B at a min with 25% of the rotation and 75% of the bench replaced.
I don’t think Wren does this and that is why he should be flushed along with JS & McGuirk. They have this desire to white wash the previous season and convince fans their tweaks or ill advised all ins moves (Uggla, Lowe, KK) could have worked.
If you want to put away other teams you need a FO with a killer instinct. The Braves lack that and quite frankly so does Fredi. I would broom the lot. Get Francona who has actually won two WS rings versus a manager who has won nothing and is channeling BC (the later years).
Rob C
October 6th, 2012
1:26 pm
I wonder what the scenario would have been if the ‘outfield fly rule’ were not called and the Braves had come back and won 7-6. Would the masses be complaining about a missed Infield Fly rule call on the Simmons pop-up? And that the Braves win was tainted by an umpires bad call? Except for a maybe a die-hard Cardinals fan, I don’t think so!
DawgNole
October 6th, 2012
1:27 pm
Dozer
October 5th, 2012
9:05 pm
Horrendous call but still they played true to form – kicked the ball all over & can’t get a clutch hit . . . The culture of acceptance continues.
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“Culture of acceptance.” That pretty well sums it up.
MidTown Joe
October 6th, 2012
1:28 pm
1st and last post for this season. Braves had a fair season. Too much inconsistent offense from most off the line-up. Much to decide in the off season. Dang the 8th inning last night. I’ve been watching MLB since 1964 and can never remember a call like that one. They should be renamed from umpires to judge and jury. See ya in 2013.
DawgNole
October 6th, 2012
1:34 pm
who cares??
October 5th, 2012
9:11 pm
Braves baseball (smh) Thank goodness for David Justice or we would still be loserville!
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Oh, we’re still Losersville. Make no mistake about it. We’re STILL Losersville. Justice notwithstanding.
Mike McDonald
October 6th, 2012
1:37 pm
While the Braves have themselves to blame for a sub-par performance, an article in the NY Times on umpire failure on outfield calls during playoffs is an interesting and relevant read. I quote the last line of the article: “The debate over Friday night’s call will most likely go on for a while. But in a move to save some face, Major League Baseball quickly edited its bio on the league’s official Twitter page. Until Friday night, it had included the irreverent phrase “We don’t understand the infield fly rule, either.” Now that line is gone, and so are the Braves from the playoffs.”
DawgNole
October 6th, 2012
1:38 pm
Let’s Go
October 5th, 2012
9:15 pm
It doesn’t matter if they played bad a true fan sticks with them no matter what. It was a great year, yes the new playoff format sucks but the Braves had a good year and that’s all that matters.
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And THIS is exactly why we’re still Losersville.
“It doesn’t matter if they played bad . . . .”
“It was a great year . . . .”
“. . . the Braves had a good year and that’s all that matters. ”
You’ve just read the definition of a loser.
Dum-Bass
October 6th, 2012
1:40 pm
Would like to see the play that Buster Olney/ESPN mentioned last night. He said there was a similar play last year that allowed St. Louis to win the LDS(I think). He said it was game #6 and the infield fly rule was not called which enabled them to score and win the game. I do not remember it, somebody might. Hopefully someone at ESPN can find it and will show it sometime this weekend. In my 50 yrs. of watching MLB, have never seen one that far out called that way. Harold Reynolds/MLB said this AM it was the right call. If so, the rule needs to be changed. When all is said and done, the 3 infielders of Jones, Simmons, and Uggla, plus the managerial wizard caused the loss. They may have made it up if not for the “bad call”, but we’ll never know now.
David Guzzetti
October 6th, 2012
1:41 pm
that rookie y’all are putting down gave up only 3 hits……………
Dum-Bass
October 6th, 2012
1:47 pm
“NOT A BELLY ACHER”………bad comparison, surely you can come up with more than that. I have on numerous occasions seen the ump give a batter a timeout after the pitcher is already in his windup. I don’t like it, but have seen it fairly often, and bet you have too. BUT, have never, ever seen an infield fly called in the outfield, especially if there’s a chance it won’t be caught. We see what’s called “Texas League Bloopers” hit all the time. Are they going to start calling those now if an infielder is close enough to catch it? Your analogy is nowhere close.
Ross
October 6th, 2012
1:51 pm
You play a 162 game season only to play a 1 game wild card series ? Only in MLB would this be a good idea !
wreckmaniac
October 6th, 2012
1:51 pm
This decision was left up to Joe Torre ? Lets don’t have him back for any Braves reunion. He is a Yankee first and a Cardinal second.
Dnice
October 6th, 2012
1:53 pm
The call sucks but its 2 things that really piss me off. The first is that Joe Torre former Cardinals manager is put in a position to rule against his old club. Yeah right, he really was going to change the call.
The 2nd point is WTF Fredi G. Why is Simmons bunting with Freeman on 3rd and Ross on 1st. If we cant get a hit by him and no pinch hitter was about to hit for Medlin then why would you do a safety squeeze. I could maybe understand a real squeeze since nobody would expect it but now you want him to make a perfect bunt and then react from 3rd at the same time the defense would be reacting. That call makes no sense and as posters have said. Take your homey Uggla and both of you catch AMTRAK, DELTA, 85/95 baggy and horse, helicoptor that Deion used to get to game, or however else you want to get outta the ATL and let us get a real manager. I dare you embarass our squad in front of the former President and owner (Jimmy Carter and Ted Turner).
DawgNole
October 6th, 2012
1:54 pm
NorCal Brave
October 5th, 2012
9:24 pm
25 out of 29 ESPN sportswriters picked Atlanta to win tonight; Have they actually seen any Braves games this year?
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A more pertinent question: Are they not aware of ALL ATL pro teams’ long-established tradition of losing in the postseason?
wreckmaniac
October 6th, 2012
1:55 pm
I was very proud of our fans also. What does anyone expect when a fraud is committed ? Major league baseball can now take this minor league umpire staff elsewhere. Note to Major League Baseball and Joe Torre: DONT COME BACK TO ATLANTA UNTIL YOU ARE READY.
AP
October 6th, 2012
2:06 pm
If infield fly rule, did our runners tag-up appopriately? Should have been a double play then. MLB you screwed this up!!!!!!
DawgNole
October 6th, 2012
2:06 pm
Tree rollins
October 5th, 2012
9:27 pm
The humongous beer slinging debacle was the Braves fans getting 10 years of frustration out of their system and it’s the first sign of passion I’ve seen at a Braves game in years – Bravo!!!
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No, NOT 10 years of frustration. FORTY-SIX YEARS!
Brian
October 6th, 2012
2:09 pm
Chipper, you re a class act. Thank you for accepting defeat like the Hall of Famer you are. A tip of the cap to Molina too for stepping out so Chipper could get his well deserved applause.
Jim
October 6th, 2012
2:19 pm
All you have to do is place 5th in your half of baseball, and you can win the World Series. Baseball has lost me.
Dave J
October 6th, 2012
2:25 pm
The call was correct, like it or not. Had the situation been reversed, and if the game was played in St. Louis, you would never have seen the fan reaction that Atlanta displayed. It was truly classless. I feel for Chipper, he is a great player and deserved a better last-game.
Homer of A-town sports
October 6th, 2012
2:29 pm
It never gets easier. It always hurts. Thank you Braves for a great season. Great crowd that showed they care last night. Take a few weeks to get over it but we have our Falcons to help ease the pain
DawgNole
October 6th, 2012
2:30 pm
Headlines is an idiot
October 5th, 2012
9:36 pm
THIS is why we ATL pro sports fans HATE the pro sports teams we have…no heart, cannot deal with adversity, unable to battle through it when the chips are down…the other shoe ALWAYS drops in the ATL.
ATL PRO TEAMS = MEDIOCRITY
And YES, the dirty birds will let us down too…
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Unfortunate but accurate assessment.
Anthony
October 6th, 2012
2:31 pm
The Braves lost because of their defensive miscues, inability to get a hit with runners in scoring position and not having the best line-up in to play the game. Yes, th umpire made a bad call but I am more pissed off at the way Joe Torre and the MLB league umpire official decided to make the politically correct decision an not the ethical deciion. I guess Joe Torre has gone to the other side and decided to play politics. Having former MLB players and managers make critical decisions is always going to benefit the league. Its that way in fotball too. Even the radio anouncers on the Cardinals network said it was a bad call. Come on Selig and Goodall take a stance and reverse a decision and quit letting umpires and referees cange outcomes in games. Good Luck Cardinals….
Tracey
October 6th, 2012
2:36 pm
Bitter loss. We will be back and win the division next year. Putting our destiny in our hands. Still tough to take though.
DawgNole
October 6th, 2012
2:38 pm
GT50
October 5th, 2012
9:46 pm
We saw Tommy Aaron hit the first Home Run at Atlanta Stadium, during the first preseason game in 1965.
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Your post likely was a trip down memory lane for longtime Braves fans, but you didn’t watch that first preseason game in 1965. The team didn’t begin playing in ATL until 1966.
Dum-Bass
October 6th, 2012
2:39 pm
I’m sure I’m not the only one who remembers Simmons running all the way out to CF last week to catch a looping fly ball that Bourn would normally be in position for. It was a heavy hitter and MB was back at the wall. The announcers were raving about how far Simmons had to run to get there and catch it. My question is, why wouldn’t the infield fly rule apply in this situation also? What’s the difference, if the rule applied last night, as Harold Reynolds so wrongly says. He’s an infielder obviously and was in position to ordinarily catch it, even though in the outfield. What FG should do next year to prove a point, and show how stupid the rule is, would be to have Simmons do this every time, and see if they call it. With his speed he could be used a lot to invoke the infield fly rule, with runners on base.
JHarber
October 6th, 2012
2:50 pm
Jim–I agree. I will no longer support any MLB team, Bud Selig-Joe Torre and company just put finishing touch on ruining baseball. If they can make judgement calls like that they can have this Grand Ole Game. I stayed in baseball for most of my 70 years but i chose to Resign from all postions effective immediately. Umpires have gotten out of Hand and MLB supports them. Good luck to all and thanks to AJC and Company for their coverage over the years.
hit a single
October 6th, 2012
2:54 pm
On the infield fly rule the infielder has to be camped under the ball. Hate to say it but by the rule book he made the correct call.
hit a single
October 6th, 2012
2:58 pm
It is not just baseball. Look at the NFL, coaches can no longer argue with officials. Coaches and managers are a part of the game and should always be. Who ever came up with the one game playoff was crazy. Should have at least played and 2 out of 3. Could have played the series this weekend and then started Division playoffs on Tues. Bud Selig needs to go.
Reality
October 6th, 2012
3:01 pm
From 2000 to now, the Braves have been involved in 9 post season series. They have lost 8 of those 9 series. Add in one of the all time cave-ins to end the 2011 season. What one thing did all of those teams have in common? The presence of a supposed leader named Choaker Jones. Now that he is gone, maybe we have some hope for the future.
Chad Wellington
October 6th, 2012
3:08 pm
Guys, it was NOT a bad call. Read the actual MLB “infield fly rule” before commending here. We’ve got to realize it was the correct call. We lost the game due to errors and failure to hit with runners on. Listen to the MLB officials today and ESPN analysts–why are you guys saying it was an incorrect call??? THE REALITY IS, any fan who threw something embarrassed the city of Atlanta and made us look terrible on national TV. Despicable. Any fan who threw something should be banned from going to a Braves game next year. Really sad end for Chipper as we almost forfeit the game due to drunk angry fans. Sad ending for Braves. Get your story right people. Go to ESPN or some site that actually covers the facts on what happened with the errors that really lost the game. Not the stupid Infield Fly Rule. I feel sorry for all the kids at the game who saw the terrible unsportsmanlike fan behavior. Sad.
Chad Wellington
October 6th, 2012
3:14 pm
Guys, it was NOT a bad call. Read the actual MLB “infield fly rule” before commending here. We’ve got to realize it was the correct call. We lost the game due to errors and failure to hit with runners on. Listen to the MLB officials today and ESPN analysts–why are you guys saying it was an incorrect call??? THE REALITY IS, any fan who threw something embarrassed the city of Atlanta and made us look terrible on national TV. Despicable. Any fan who threw something should be banned from going to a Braves game next year. Really sad end for Chipper as we almost forfeit the game due to drunk angry fans. Sad ending for Braves. Get your story right people. Go to ESPN or some site that actually covers the facts on what happened with the errors that really lost the game. Not the stupid Infield Fly Rule. I feel sorry for all the kids at the game who saw the terrible unsportsmanlike fan behavior. Sad.
cardsfan
October 6th, 2012
3:18 pm
Wanted to check the forum here to hear your side. Funny how everyone complains that atlanta had more wins than the cards and its not fair they had to play a one game playoff. These were the new rules. One game take all, no matter how many regular season games you win it no longer matters. It is the playoffs. A team that ranks so low in attendance, with a playoff team, finally shows up and trashes the field. Blame the call, but what about the homerun where the umpire called time after the pitch was thrown, that was just as questionable. After the replay Chipper was clearly out at first. You had calls go your way just as well.
82BravesForever
October 6th, 2012
3:19 pm
That place *erupted* on the call. The plastic bottles and cans hit the field immediately. There was a serious energy in the stands, perhaps a negative energy for even having to play this game at all. Cards won 88, Braves 94. Braves beat the cards 5 of 6 in the regular season. And then this one game. It felt as if we were getting shafted from the start, and only escalated from there.
NOTE: trash on field happens whenever fans feel they’ve received the rawest deal possible. It happens in St Louis, even. The “classy” comments are a joke. Classy folks stayed home!
JHarber
October 6th, 2012
3:19 pm
Wellington Common sense has to be applied at times and forget rules. Game was sloppy but the point is bad umpires and MLB, A grain of salt at times helps see entire picture. There times for everything. Rules are rules but common sense should prevail. Winning or losing is not at issue with these calls its fairness.
GTSteve
October 6th, 2012
3:24 pm
Horrible call, no doubt about it, but it didn’t cost the Braves the game, the correct call there and the Braves MIGHT have overcome their self inflicted wounds. The way the rule is written, is the umpire has to see that the INFIELDER can make a play using normal effort. That was not the case here, we have all seen players tag up and score from 3rd on an infielder running full speed towards the outfield….You just cant call infield fly rule on that play…..but again, Braves errors cost them this game
82BravesForever
October 6th, 2012
3:24 pm
Cardsfan is the odor so bad off the miss this morning you have to stay indoors and troll another teams site? Do you really think Braves fans feeling shafted is unwarranted?
P.S. Braves drew 2.5mm this year. That’s not ranking low. That’s close to 30k a game, and good for a 15th ranking. Keep in mind 15th is just above average. Not “low”. Another math-challenged Cards fan.
Brave New World
October 6th, 2012
3:38 pm
Headine should be: “Umps Oust Braves”
Brave New World
October 6th, 2012
3:39 pm
Sam Holbrook = Eric Gregg
nashvillewill
October 6th, 2012
3:40 pm
BRAVES FIZZLE AGAIN IN POSTSEASON: WHY FREDI GONZALES IS TO BLAME
Another in a long line of postseason failures for the Braves with one difference: this was a one-game “playoff”, a ridiculous, money-driven creation of MLB/Bud Selig, that has no legitimate reason-for-being in a series driven sport like baseball(even little league postseason is best two of three in most contexts).
Since this loss clearly can be placed in the hands of the players who fumbled, bumbled, and continued to leave runners on base (7 in the last three innings), why should we hold FG accountable and responsible? For (mis)managing this team to the runner up position in the East, when it was clearly takeable. Although FG handling the pitching much better (minus some questionable usages of Martinez and Venters in July and August), his Bobby Cox-like stubbornness to continue to use players who are non-productive cost this Braves the division and first round “bye.” I am referring mostly to his use of the non-productive Uggla in the face of one of the worst seasons by a ML baseball player, and the use of Bourn when he clearly had run out of steam after a pretty decent first half. Constanza offered a more-than-adequate replacement for Bourn when used (witness his triple on Friday), and Prado was a clearly superior second baseman. Reed Johnson could have been inserted in LF, Prado put at 2B and, voila! stability and superior players in one feel swoop. I guess these moves made too much sense and were not attempted on any consistent basis by a manager who plays favorites. For these reasons as well as for last season’s inept finish, Gonzales should not be retained. It goes without saying that Bourn should not be retained and Uggla should be shopped for whatever can be gotten. With a new manager (Francona is available as of this writing), a new 3B (Please, not Francisco), Prado at 2B, Ross as the everyday catcher, Braves might contend for the division title next year. No consolation in the WC, at least in the one-and-done format.
cardsfan
October 6th, 2012
3:41 pm
Odor of victory is sweet, thank you. I have a new born that why Im inside, not sure why you are inside. And 15th for an awesome team as you guys have pointed out is not great. Without that homerun with a late time being called it would have been 6 to 1 at that point of the call. Your team choked again in the playoffs as usual, blame the team not the rules of the new playoffs, or infield fly. MLB network and espn both broke down the play and showed other examples of the same play being called the same way. Go cardinals
Brave New World
October 6th, 2012
3:45 pm
At least a case of beer on the field were the empties the umpires had consumed prior to calling the “Infield Fly Rule.”
Brave New World
October 6th, 2012
3:49 pm
cardsfan: First of all, congratualtions on your new born. Cards are a first class organization with a great history. However, the most prevalent odor from this game came from 2 places: 1) the umpires in left field and 3rd base; and 2) the Braves defense. Nonetheless, congrats to you and your Cardinals from a Braves fan.
DawgNole
October 6th, 2012
3:51 pm
bitman
October 5th, 2012
9:48 pm
Hey Fact Check -Do you really think The Bad Station or MLB will even notice our absence?
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Doesn’t matter what Fact Check thinks. The answer is, Absolutely not. Nor will MLB care–unfortunately.
Busch Leaguer
October 6th, 2012
4:02 pm
Listening to that Flak Harold Reynolds on the MLB Network makes me sick. With all of the video tape at MLB’s disposal they still can’t find any play that comes close to the idiotic call Holbrook made. Why do these umps have to inject themselves into the outcome of baseball games ,especially playoff games.And back to Reynolds you have no credibility at all just a flak reading a script approved have Bud Selig. And for Joe Torre if this call was made in Yankee Stadium and against the Yankees ,you would have overturned the call ,or there would still be a riot going on in New York City.
nelson
October 6th, 2012
4:02 pm
another lost, same thing… braves continue history in postseason : CHOKE
Same ol' same ol'
October 6th, 2012
4:04 pm
Only a few comments here deal with the BLOWN CALL on the pitch just before Ross hit his dinger. That bad call didn’t raise anyone’s ire, apparently…wonder why!?
And only a few mention Jones slow-poking to first and being handed his last “hit” in the majors, which was clearly an OUT. What a wholly underwhelming end for a future HOFer, jogging to first like a first-rate BUM. Then to have Fan Struggla finish it off…well it was apropos. Another thirty grand pocketed for a weak at-bat by the most overpaid, and roided-up infielder in baseball.
Homers see what they want to see. The “worst call” didn’t ruin the Braves. Ineptitude did. And it’s all too typical.
don
October 6th, 2012
4:28 pm
The umpire called timeout before Lohse delivered the pitch. That call was correct.
However, Jones was clearly out at first base. It was a going away gift.
don
October 6th, 2012
4:33 pm
Simmons will be fine. The calls to trade for Elvis are without merit. While it is true that the Rangers have Profar ready to take over shortstop, Elvis will probably be kept until he can become a free agent. then the Braves won’t be able to afford him. Simmons is not Andrus. Nor is he Profar. However, he is better than most other young shortstops.
Anyway, the Braves have very little that would interest the Rangers other than possibly Heyward.
KYBravos' fan
October 6th, 2012
4:43 pm
Did y’all see the graphic last nite on TBS about Chipper? #2 in franchise history in something like 5 categories. Homers, rbi, hits, avg., and runs(I believe were the ones shown). Was #3 in homers–to Captain Eddie Mathews. 2nd in all the others to The Hammer from Mobile–as Milo Hamilton used to call Henry. Not bad, huh? Chipper’s headed to Cooperstown and REAL Braves’ fans love him and all that he’s accomplished. Thank you, Chipper. A Brave forever.
yellowfever
October 6th, 2012
4:55 pm
what a bunch of choke artist.
Busch Leaguer
October 6th, 2012
5:05 pm
@same ‘ol
the ump on the Ross play had raised his hands for time before the pitch was made and Ross swung and missed. You can argue that the ump should not had given Ross time. I don’t make a claim that the Braves would have won the game if Holbrook did not make the infield fly call. The more likely outcome would have been that Motte would not have pitched around McCann and McCann would have bounced into a double play.Even with the shoddy defense and bad managerial moves,.ie Safety squeeze with the pitcher on deck. The Braves could not overcome batting.000 with runners in scoring position this problem has plagued the team all year.
Ron
October 6th, 2012
5:34 pm
Not a fan of Joe Torre. Hey Joe, How would have you reacted if you were still managing the Yankees and that happened to your team in the deciding game?
Mark
October 6th, 2012
5:35 pm
The Truth, buy a dictionary….
hit a single
October 6th, 2012
5:35 pm
Like it or not he made the right call. With our weak offense we left it in the hands of the umpires.
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October 6th, 2012
5:43 pm
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Philly Phanatic
October 6th, 2012
6:10 pm
If you thought that was boorish behavior by the Braves fans on that abortion of a call I shudder to think what would have occurred in Philly with the same call against the Phillies. They would have made that scene in Atlanta look like a love in. The reaction was more than warranted. Like so many have succinctly stated it probably wouldn’t have mattered anyway as hitting with RISP is certainly not Atlanta’s strong suit. It’s their defense!
Spud Webb
October 6th, 2012
6:10 pm
Good job Braves fans!!! I was glad to see the trash on the field!!! Holbrook had money on that game, that is the ONLY WAY to explain that call. MONEY on the game, I said it, think about it a “judgement” call”??? Perfectly played by Holbrook, un freaking believable.
Yes, the braves should’ve hit in the clutch and yes the errors hurt, but you cant tell me bases loaded and 1 out doesn’t change that game. Joe Torre is a joke…..
Spud Webb
October 6th, 2012
6:12 pm
The FIX WAS IN!
Spud Webb
October 6th, 2012
6:15 pm
Philly Phanatic, I was giggling thinking if that was in Philly or NY….water bottles=batteries and no way one of those umpires would’ve made it safely out of there.
pathetic pos players
October 6th, 2012
6:27 pm
pathetic.
Tracey
October 6th, 2012
6:45 pm
If you disagree with a single elimination wild card game then sign this petition….https://www.change.org/petitions/major-league-baseball-end-the-failed-experiment-of-a-one-game-wild-card-playoff
Tracey
October 6th, 2012
6:45 pm
Here is the petition link..
https://www.change.org/petitions/major-league-baseball-end-the-failed-experiment-of-a-one-game-wild-card-playoff
Fred
October 6th, 2012
7:09 pm
Hey Atlanta fans – you are getting lambasted all around the country for the embarrassing way you behaved Friday night. You want to fire Joe Simpson for telling the truth? There is never a reason to endanger people in the stands or on the field by throwing garbage.
(you do realize that most of the trash you threw never even got to the field which means you pelted your own kind)
You lack the passion and the perspective for the game of baseball.
74bravesjersey
October 6th, 2012
7:32 pm
You know what, Fred, any other city fan base, the Bronx, philly, Boston, anybody else, in the heat of the momment, for you’re team, & a momment of euphoria, pressure on the cards, bases loaded, 1 out, mommentum going particular in any of those cities fan base way for their team, & an outfield line judge calls infield fly rule out in mid-left field, the ball drops, think about it. If it were Boston fans, Newyork team fans, philly, etc.. there would been chaos beyond bedlam, mayhem, those umpires may never came back out, in another place, especially passion beyond compare, we we’re tamed compared to those cities, tired of all this righteous, pious crap talk, let em’ lambash us, fred, they know where we stand. Also, some Digs from Jena on page 9, Sam holbrook hails from alton, just outside of st.louie, bless his heart, he made sure his redbirds we’re mov’n on, that’s ok, we heard from philly fans, mets fans, Billy Ripken,Omar vizquel, of mlb, Dennis eckersely, Buster onley of Espn said the umps missed bad on this call, very poor in their judgement, they helped seal the deal for the redbirds, not excusing the Braves horrendous defense.
Philly Phanatic
October 6th, 2012
9:18 pm
Fred, I’m almost thinking they should either have the stadium cordoned off with fans with no passion and those with. Or we could possibly have games for the backgammon type fans and those who have their Heart and soul into THEIR team. Maybe in Philly, NY, and Boston with years of tradition, successful or not your team has been threaded into as big and important part of your life as anything but family. I was actually very pleased to see the fans in Atlanta act the way they did as I really always thought that was the difference between the fans from Philly whose attendance mirrors their love affair with their team and Atlanta. I guarantee the game would have been suspended for a lot longer in Philly as their behavior would have begged for a level playing field. Their will always be the fans who want to keep the human element as a large part of the game. Instant replay is an absolute necessity in all sports. What is worse than being eliminated from a 162 game schedule because an ump had the call so wrong at an extremely integral part of the game. If you thought the behavior was out of line stay home. My only problem with staying home is my son and his friends may nail me with a battery on theft call.
count_schemula
October 6th, 2012
10:06 pm
“Hey Atlanta fans – you are getting lambasted all around the country for the embarrassing way you behaved Friday night”
Suck up. You probably thought there was WMD because “they” said so.
Grow a brain.
Discussion Post: Week 7 « COM 315 Course Blog
October 7th, 2012
12:03 am
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George Washington
October 7th, 2012
1:10 am
Anyone commenting on this game has to make less than $30,000.00/yr. Anyone with intelligence does not waste their time complaining about a game with which they have no control. It’s a waste of time folks! Get an education or a part-time job and make something of your life. If you aren’t careful you’ll be known as losers.
You were robbed!
October 7th, 2012
1:49 am
First, thanks to Chipper for all that you have done for the Braves over the last 19 years. It’s been fun this year watching you play and getting this team to the playoffs. I was at the game last night and I understand why people got so upset and starting throwing things….you guys had a chance and you were doing what the Braves always do…fighting back. And it was just wrong. So, think of it this way..those beers are $7 a piece, so those.fans think alot of their team… Thanks for taking up for your passionate fans, because we love our Braves and we love you. Thanks Chiiper!
Braves fan
October 7th, 2012
9:13 am
Hey Tracie – Bite Me! We don’t want your sissy $#^@$^ kids watching the braves either.
Well said mark – about time braves fans showed emotion. We was robbed!!
George
October 7th, 2012
9:24 am
Chipper you are great and you should be peace.People the call was made in good faith.shame on you for your behavior in front of the kids I thought you people set a good example for kids.That was thug behavior someone could have been killed but no one was arrested shame on the police.If that would have happen at Clark Atlanta people would ave been cuffed ,stuffed.and baged WOW .Shame on Atlanta the real jokers stoodup.You people was out their acting a dam Fool and Chipper talked with Class and acted with Class.
Realist
October 7th, 2012
9:44 am
It is only contrversial if you don’t know the rule and its rule comments:
Rule 2.00 (Infield Fly) Comment: On the infield fly rule the umpire is to rule whether the ball COULD ORDINARILY HAVE BEEN HANDLED BY AN INFIELDERnot by some arbitrary limitation such as the grass, or the base lines. The umpire must rule also that a ball is an infield fly, even if handled by an outfielder, if, in the umpire’s judgment, the ball could have been as easily handled by an infielder. The infield fly is in no sense to be considered an appeal play. The umpire’s judgment must govern, and the decision should be made immediately.
It was a GOOD call. The Braves are like ThUGA, they can’t handle the pressure of a big game.
Georgia
October 7th, 2012
9:54 am
It’s not about the loss, it’s about the fact that the WC elim game had to be played in the first place. Georgia lost at least $2 million in otherwise earned revenue b/c of the new format. You can estimate at least $2 million per game in ‘tourism dollars’ for hotel/motel tax, motor fuel tax, food & beverage tax, extended jobs, etc. Georgia would have had at least 2 postseason games under the old format. Missourri now reaps at least $4 million of otherwise unearned revenue, a boost to the image of its state’s sports & gets free baseball. MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL ROBBED ALL GEORGIA TAXPAYERS of extra (and earned) revenue by this new format. The outcome of the WC elimination game has an economic impact that is so much bigger than “just one game”. MLB only thought about MLB. MLB did not think about the much bigger picture of what postseason revenue does in terms of job extension & tax dollars for the state’s team that clearly had the better 2nd place record in 162 games.
A.B. Normal
October 7th, 2012
10:00 am
One-and-done . . . the story of our lives.
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4:20 pm
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