8:39 pm October 5, 2012, by David O'Brien
Kennesaw Mtn Landis
October 6th, 20123:08 am
I am nearly out of my mind right now. Not because the Braves lost (too many errors) but because NOBODY UNDERSTANDS THE INFIELD FLY RULE. (or even why it exists)
” The infield fly rule is a rule in baseball intended to prevent infielders from intentionally dropping pop-ups in order to turn double plays (or triple plays). Without this rule, a defense could easily turn a pop fly into a double play when there are runners at first and second base. If the runners stay near their bases to tag up, the defense could let the ball drop, throw to third base and then to second, for a force-out at each base.”
But this rule DOES NOT APPLY IF FIRST BASE IS OPEN – BECAUSE THERE IS NO FORCE OUT!!!!
Holy Baloney Mother of God…I learned this rule watching my son play competitive Little League.
…and now I’m watching sports center and nobody understand either! They even had a retired umpire on who agreed with the call .
THE REASON THE RULE EXISTS IS TO PREVENT “FORCE OUTS” AT THE NEXT BASE …IF YOU HAVE A MAN ON 2ND AND A MAN ON THIRD (BUT NOBODY ON 1ST)….THERE IS NO FORCE OUT – THEY DON’T HAVE TO F’-ING RUN!!!!!!!!!
October 6th, 20123:24 am
Kennesaw Mtn Landis,
We had runners at 1st and 2nd, and you think everybody is wrong because the runners did not have to run. Yes, they are forced to run if the ball is purposely dropped once any player can get under it to set up the infield fly rule. I have coached baseball for 50 years. You don’t even know we had runners on 1st and 2nd and that is why you think everyone is wrong.
October 6th, 20123:45 am
Ooops…thanks Thomas Brown…I thought they were on 2nd and 3rd…so my whole rant goes out the window
No Offense….poop..we still lost
October 6th, 20124:01 am
Oh please…I grew up around STL and they wanted to HANG Deckinger…and they would have..given the chance.
October 6th, 20124:03 am
Nothing shameful in how the fans handled this. If anything they should have kept throwing more junk on the field and had the game called like the officials kept threatening to do. Heck, if I was not in the upper deck I would have been right there throwing stuff too.
Anywhere else it is acceptable to admit when you are wrong and correct it…….WHY not in baseball? Especially during a playoff.
On another related subject…..this was the first time I have heard 50,000 people all in unison chanting “Bull Shyt”
October 6th, 20124:12 am
No Problem. I knew you had where the runners were, at different bases. It’s routine, as you pointed out in this situation, once a fielder can reasonably get under the ball.
The game was lost because we cannot hit. In fact, neither of our 1st two runs really should have scored. And, of course, their big inning never happens. The double-play is 2 outs and Prado should have been playing a step back so he could catch a ball that bounces directly over his head with a 2-run lead from the walk when Dan Uggla watched a pitch drill the mitt right where it was held for the pitch, and the wild-swinging back-up catcher got 4 strikes.
Or, the game would have been 1-6.
Like I said BEFORE THE GAME.
Now, where are all those who told me I was WRONG BEFORE the game ?
You can say it.
We’re the 10th best team in baseball and are eliminated at home for the other team to celebrate here
Now on to the Georgia Bulldogs, who have not beat a single team who made the top 10 in 7 years, and tonight South Carolina will not make the Top 10 at about # 14, as I see them.
October 6th, 20124:22 am
I do hope Wren will make a managerial change this offseason. There’s just no excuse for some of the moves Fredi makes.
October 6th, 20124:24 am
And so here on the first day of the new Wild Card system we see first hand how bad of an idea it is. Honestly I wouldn’t have any resistance to the idea of just taking the Wild Card completely out of Baseball. You don’t win your division, tough luck.
Wild Cards give sneaky, although inadequate, teams a chance to win right from out under the teams with the most wins. Its sickening. The Braves had so many games up on the Cards, but the Cards 1 and done the Braves. So unfair, plus I saw quite a few questionable calls going for St. Louis. Makes you wonder..
Well its been a great year fellow Braves fans, hopefully over the winter we get some good news. Braves-please don’t trade away my favorite player- Jason Heyward.
He’s our future and he’s a great player.
See ya’ll in the Spring, Teddy is a worn down Bear from this long season and I am going to hibernate until spring!!!!
October 6th, 20124:27 am
Honestly it was such a cheap way to end our year, but the Cards specialize in cheap wins so go figure. The only reason we lost was that asinine Infield fly ruling that should NOT have applied.
Did we borrow the NFL replacement Refs to call this game?? Sure seemed like it to me. Cards are dirty cheaters they’ll get taken care of next round when someone has a series to play them in, instead of a 1 game tv ratings booster. Thanks for this headache Bud Selig. Thanks.
October 6th, 20124:39 am
Even the Cards manager said he’s never seen a call like that.
October 6th, 20124:43 am
“they wait until the ball reaches the apex (big word for you Atlanta) of it’s flight then look to see”
it’s “its flight” there chief – possessive, not a contraction, lol
October 6th, 20124:47 am
Dear field crew: You didn’t clean up all the garbage on the field. The Umps were still on it.
October 6th, 20124:49 am
“So now your down 6-1 with the bases loaded and 1 out in the 8th. Do you really think that the Braves would score 5 runs then when they couldn’t score with runners in scoring position the whole game??
Score was 6-3.
Ordinary effort? We see that play all the time. As it went down tonight, it’s either miscommunication, or, the SS was afraid of the LF.
October 6th, 20124:55 am
The Masters of Choke do they thang! Horrible throwing errors, listless play, and poor play calling. What was up with the call to bunt in the 8th? Or, not sending Bourne after reaching first, early in the game, up 2-0. Dumb.
Chipper left on a SLACK note, by not legging it out to first on his last “hit” in the majors. He was ready to head to Hooters with Struggla, who ended the game on a weak effort. A fitting end to a season of ‘what could’ve beens.’
Any team with THREE laughable throwing errors doesn’t deserve it. That’s a fact, jack.
October 6th, 20124:56 am
Game looked rigged to me. Judgement calls ruled! Also, Torre to make the final call? Many of you all don’t remember that Torre was run out of the ATL because of his behavior off the field. He just so happened to be traded to St Louis and won a batting title there. All the perfect MLB soap opera! Officiating was horrible and the little league errors by both teams were a joke! Good luck Red Birds on your quest to win another championship. I myself could care less to watch this fiasco called MLB.
October 6th, 20125:05 am
cheap were the fans
October 6th, 20125:06 am
I love the braves but this loss comes as no surprise. How can it be a infield fly call when the ball is not in the infield. This is a bad call.
October 6th, 20125:15 am
I am not mad at the ump. I am mad at baseball. The rule was misapplied, and the judgement was way off, butt even when all umps gather for a conference, they can’t correct a bad call. Some think this is the beauty of baseball. I will not continue to follow professional baseball. I have seen my last game, in person and on tv. I will change channels when they cover baseball on sports center. For some people it was the strike, for some it was steroids. For me it is the marriage to the “this is the way we have always done it” way of thinking, when better ways exist. I don’t have the time to invest in 162 games, only to see the season end like this. This “America’s Pastime” time has passed for this former fan. I have better things to do.
October 6th, 20125:40 am
If you want to win money, bet against the Braves.
William A. Schaedler
October 6th, 20125:41 am
“Champagne for St. Louis. The usual piss for Atlanta.” Now that’s funny.
October 6th, 20125:50 am
My apologies to Simmons for thinking ill of him, I thought he bunted on his own with the pitcher up next. The Frediot returns.
October 6th, 20125:56 am
The Cardinals ridicule the Braves for celebrating after advancing to the playoffs in a 162 game season.
The Cardinals celebrate with champagne after advancing in a 1 game payoff aided by Braves errors and a huge umpiring mistake.
October 6th, 20126:02 am
I hate it when I’m right. I told you all, “too much celebration too soon. They’ll be out in the first round.” Typical Braves, just can’t get it up for the big show.
October 6th, 20126:28 am
Early bird, what should be upsetting you is the one-game playoff, not one bad call. The Braves and Cards would be playing again today – and this bad call would be forgotten – had the idiots who run MLB not decided to turn baseball into football. They have destroyed any credibility MLB had left with this stupid 5-team playoff format, and until they move back to the previous format, I will also be tuning out baseball.
It was was bad enough that the Cards were even allowed in the playoffs given their regular season record. (They wouldn’t have been last season.) That they moved on by winning a *single* game over a team with a better record is simply not acceptable. That is not baseball, and anyone who is truly a fan of the game should boycott MLB until this stupid one-game playoff is eliminated.
Oren Spiegler, Pennsylvania
October 6th, 20126:33 am
I suppose that in a society like ours, which is in a state of decay, I should not be surprised that there is support for the fans who became thugs, endangering players and umpires and issuing thinly-veiled threats to the umpire who made the bad call. I suppose that those who are so enraged as to justify beastly behavior have never made a mistake. I hope that those who support engaging in this behavior do not have children as it would be a pity if the child sought to emulate the destructive mindset of the parent. To the pro-trash throwing individuals, I would ask, what do you think Chipper Jones’ view of this would be? Would he have encouraged more trash be tossed on to the field, a longer delay of the game, and more embarrassment for Atlanta?
October 6th, 20126:42 am
“My apologies to Simmons for thinking ill of him, I thought he bunted on his own with the pitcher up next. The Frediot returns.”
A lot of us think Fredo was covering for Simmons.
October 6th, 20126:47 am
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
– Thomas “Thug Daddy” Jefferson
October 6th, 20126:48 am
Braves celebrated BEFORE the play-off game, because they knew they cannot hit, are weak in the middle, have no superstar who would even play in the play-off game, have no manager, and have the worst ownership of professional sports.
One Big Dummy
October 6th, 20126:49 am
Again, if Fredi was covering for Simmons, then Fredi didn’t bother to tell Andrelton why bunting in that situation is a terrible idea the first time it happened, because that’s the second time this season that Simmons did that!
Why are all of us Braves fans so angry? They made the playoff, right? Isn’t that the end all goal, not the World Series every year? Certainly sounds like it every year. Well folks this is what happens when your home town franchise has NO INTENTION of even trying to put together a WS team every year. This team ended up with the result of exactly what they were built to accomplish. Thank you
October 6th, 20126:52 am
Quit complainiong, the game is over, thge short stop was under the ball. I hate the call but it was not as bad as all of you people are screaming. Our boys lost and that is it. Too many errors, too many left on base.
October 6th, 20126:53 am
Bye-bye, Hooter Chokes — don’t ever come back! Stay on your ranch charging upwardly mobile rednecks insane amounts of cash to go hunting with you and your dad. Just please…DON’T EVER COME BACK!!!
Steve from Philly
This “AtlantaLoser” person cites all the analysts on the MLB network supporting the call. First, no Cards fans needs to defend the call. They won the game, move on. Second, the MLB network analysts are MLB employees. Figure it out.
Congrats to Chipper and all the best. Mixed comments here but he tortured the Phillies for years and while we respect him, we won’t be sorry that he’s moved on. : )
Finally, the fans. Those who defend their actions – what would you be saying if that had been Philly fans? No one would have made any excuses and we would have heard about booing Santa Claus again (even though it happened almost 50 years ago). Well, life isn’t always fair, but you can’t defend throwing garbage on the field.
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October 6th, 20127:04 am
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October 6th, 20127:13 am
Let the Players Decide the Game the Announcer said ….then why did the worst call I can EVER remember stand??? Its just Wrong Wrong Wrong. I was at the Ted seeing History and this is what I
get? The Braves FANS where showing their Support (Outrage and Anger and Pure Utter Disbelief).
Major League Baseball should be Ashamed, NOT the BRAVES FANS. Thanks for the 19, #10!
October 6th, 20127:18 am
The errors lost the game, but the late and inaccurate call on the infield fly is another black eye on baseball. Perhaps Torre can now see this in his new role and make some changes to the replay/review rules in baseball. In my opinion, the rule shouldn’t even exist in it’s current form. Force the players to make the plays. Force the umps to make the correct call. Managers should have one challenge per game. And BTW…@Headlines ~ You Suck!
October 6th, 20127:20 am
did anyone ever think that major league would overturn that call, when infield fly rule was call the shortstop was running away from the ball. he was not camp under the ball that was not a judgement call that was bad call
October 6th, 20127:21 am
1)one has no chance when an empire is a homer..is it holbvrook who is from alton( just outside of st louis) and a good friend of izzy & a cardinal fan
2) is not joe garagiola and joe torre cardinal fans both lived in st louis & played for the cardinal ( and did not mr torre say the game would be forfeited it those”boorish fans” did knot stop throwing items onto the field & give the game to the cardinals
3) re: commissioner’s office: is not tony la russa there & a great influence
4) but, the braves did themselves in: so many errors!!
lesson learned: do not let homers ump games ( as in football when they found a saints fan would be an ump in that game) ump may mean well but subconsciously..what the heck is he thinking??!!!
October 6th, 20127:23 am
Atlanta fans throw a bunch of garbage on the field and chant Chipper’s name? Pure trash I tell ya.
Plus, why was McCann pinch hitting? Couldn’t trust him in an important game? I concur!
I am proud of the fans. Atlanta fans get ridiculed about having no passion. The initial reaction last night was great. Did it go on too long, absolutely. I’m just concerned that this will cause losses on the fan base and interest in baseball in ATL.
October 6th, 20127:27 am
I think it is time I buy the team back from the current ownership and give the fans what they deserve.
October 6th, 20127:29 am
If you watch the replay, the ump made the call when he was already mid way in left field and only a second or two before the ball hit the ground. It was not called an infield fly when the ball was still over the infield or when the SS was clearly going to catch it.
October 6th, 20127:46 am
Way to come through when the team needs you most chipper jones. Same story different day. Good riddance!
October 6th, 20127:51 am
Sadly, this ump appeared to make the call after realizinghe ball was gonna drop. Do i question the timing and his motive , ” YES ” ! The call was bad judgement, the timing should remove him from baseball, ” just saying ” .
October 6th, 20127:56 am
I wonder how fast FG would have screamed out to the field screaming IFR if the ball that was dropped was thrown to third, putting out the runner.
October 6th, 20128:04 am
Tough call, for sure. But your guy raised his arm, calling for the ball. And your guys committed a week’s worth of errors in a big game. Your fans, at the park, behaved like spoiled babies. Good thing your guys lost that war a while ago?
October 6th, 20128:06 am
It’s OK Braves…I Love you Chipper, and I LOVE THE BRAVES!!!!!!!
October 6th, 20128:11 am
Oh my goodness, I sit here asking myself, ‘Do I really live in a city where people think it is okay to throw debris and swear at officials while so many children are around?” I guess what gets me is that this really is a redneck thing to do, giving ATL one more black eye. I’m not calling all Atlantans rednecks, only the ones who swear and throw trash, then think it’s okay.
October 6th, 20128:13 am
The chUMP made his call just before the ball hit the ground. MLB got this one wrong, but do not have the “balls” to right the wrong. I feel sorry for the Braves players. They should have thrown their trash and coolers out of their dugout, too.
Old Braves Fan
October 6th, 20128:15 am
Ii have been a very close follower of MLB for almost 60 years and have never seen a call that bad. SS was not even close to the infield and ump called infileld fly rule way too late in the procedss and then to make matters even worse Joe Torre had the audacity to say the call was correct. I would have feltd much better if they had at least admitted they got the call wrong but there was nothing they could do about it. NO this was not the reasons Braves lost–3 errors and failure to score with runners in scoring position and botched squeeze bunt will lose every time. Yes Braves fans likely overreacted but if you are a true Atlanta sports fan you can understand the passion that we have for all sports in Atlanta. Finally if Joe Simpson is paid by the Braves they need to cancel his contract–he was way over the top in his comments I think–yes it was embarassing but not nearly to the degree he kept pointing it out. I was quite frankly surprised it was not even wilder based on the passion that true Atlanta fans have coupled with one of the worst calls in major league history. GO BRAVES for 2013
What in the world is this “safety squeeze” call for Simmons with the pitcher up next? Horrible low percentage call. Shaky managers get exposed in the playoffs.
Also, I would like to see what percentage of runners going to first run “inside” the base to first. I bet that it’s more the norm than the exception. That sounds like another rule that should be reviewed. All of the bad calls are horrible for baseball.
October 6th, 20128:16 am
Come on folks!! It’s just a game played by extremely spoiled and over paid “athletes!”
October 6th, 20128:17 am
With all the complaining about the umpires, I noticed that not one mentions Ross’s second chance after he struck out. Cmon, the guy was headed back to the dugout. Did you people that demand perfection want to give those 2 runs back? And as much as I like and admire Chipper, he was obviously out at 1st base and look at him….he knew it too
October 6th, 20128:18 am
LOSERS…hmm so many this can describe, braves, braves fans, braves, braves fans…
October 6th, 20128:20 am
Same old same old. Only this time they fell apart before they even had a chance to truly compete in playoffs. When will the ATL fanbase figure this thing out?
THEY DO THE SAME THANG AIR YEAR!!!!!!!
October 6th, 20128:25 am
“This “AtlantaLoser” person cites all the analysts on the MLB network supporting the call. First, no Cards fans needs to defend the call. They won the game, move on. Second, the MLB network analysts are MLB employees. Figure it out.”
Francona reviewed the play for the first time on-air after the game and concluded that he has no problem with the call. He stated that the way it was described to him verbally gave him the impression that the call was absolutely horrible…..similar to the way some of you are describing. The ump raised his hand after the SS set up under the ball and not right before it hit the ground. Those sayung otherwise simply don’t have a right to your own facts. This is a tough rule to understand since most baseball fans only know the very basic rules of the game. You know, the fans who BOO the visiting team if their pitcher makes a pickoff move to first more than 1 time per game.
October 6th, 20128:30 am
The call was bad, the defense was worse.
Winners win and whiners whine.
If the Braves left more runners on base this year than any team in baseball. They still have work to do to improve this team.
October 6th, 20128:33 am
Sure the braves put themselves behind w/ stupid knucklehead errors, down deep someth’n was tell’n me, yep we screw’n ourselves & we did, but at the same time, the call made at crucial momment, when obvious at mid depth in left field, umpire making judgement call so late ball coming down, even billy Ripken,mlb network, espn analysts, agreed crucial excruciating! call by the ump took away key mommentum away from braves, bases loaded,1 out, McCann comming up, yeah, you may not know what the outcome could’ve been, he might’ve still hit into double play or k’d or what, but braves had that mommentum taken away, yeah the fans reacted to a obvious mommentum changer, if it was the cards up to bat same senario, he(ump) would’ve left that judgement alone, because it’s the cards. & by the way, the fans reaction out of obvious frustration, & if it was any where else, w/ the game on the line, say Boston, say New York(mets or Yankees fans), say philly, say Baltimore, & I would go as far to say washington, everybody & anybody who had a key mommentum taken away, the fans would’ve done the very same thing, why? sure, it shouldn’t happen, but, the fans payed good money to see a battle of a game,(w/o the numbskull errors of course) but w/ that, the infield fly rule was too crucial of a call way out in mid leftfield, yeah, all the other cities fans would’ve reacted the same way in the heat of the momment when after everybody cheered when the ball dropped. Yeah, Stl. won, but they backed in to the next round from that obvious crucial call, & thanks Joe for being so biased, excruciating, use to have respect for ya, go get that network job, be a puppet!
Ashamed of our fans? Noooo! For the 1st time in a long time our fans showed some true passion. Imagine if this call had happened in Wrigley, Fenway or the Bronx. Our fans’ reaction was tame compared to how those passionate fans would’ve reacted.
“Did you people that demand perfection want to give those 2 runs back? And as much as I like and admire Chipper, he was obviously out at 1st base and look at him….he knew it too”
Very true. That was a very questionable time out given and,predictable, no ATL fans has mentioned it here. Just dwelling on a call they don’t understand And, yes, Chipper was out on a play that could have easily [replay supports this but national media stayed away for any commentary afterwards] been called the other way. No big deal,but he was out.
WORST CALL IN HISTORY
October 6th, 20128:37 am
For all you jerks on here trying to say that call was correct–GO POUND SAND. You are all idiots. And Joe Simpson is an idiot.
Even though the infield fly rule may be an umpire ’s judgement rule i have not seen in my 50+ years of playing and watching baseball an umpire use that particular rule in that same identical situation.
And thank god I haven’t.
October 6th, 20128:38 am
So, relative to the most rude sports markets in the country, ATL isn’t that bad? I’m 55 and have never had the urge to throw something on the field of play out of frustration. That is white trash behavior at its finest. No other way to describe it.
October 6th, 20128:39 am
I don’t mind admitting that I have no problems with the trash on the field.
1) You ask an individual to pay top dollar to attend a game in person then you better provide a certain level of quality. That call was horrible. If the 3rd base umpire had been running out to make that call, like he would have done in any of the previous 162 games, it doesn’t occur. The fact that both Braves runners moved up 90 feet w/out a play is a pretty good indication that it was the wrong call.
2) That behavior has occurred at sporting events since people started paying money to watch. Holbrook should just be happy they don’t allow fans to bring rotten produce into the park anymore.
3) It’s the most passion I’ve ever seen from Braves fans. Imagine any other passionate baseball town like Chicago, Philly, Boston, or New York. They would have gone ape shyt.
4) Finally, MLB is only promoting this behavior by having a single game, winner-take-all playoff. That’s why you play an entire series, so bad calls and bad hops have a chance to even out.
hit a single
Braves offense is terrible. We will blame the hitting coach as usual. Bottom line is that Braves are too cocky and don’t have a reason to be. Uggla is the worse hitting second baseman the Braves have ever had. Should have been benched earlier and they need another stick like Holiday.
October 6th, 20128:40 am
This was an unfitting swansong for one Larry Wayne Chipper Jones. I think that is why the Atlanta fans were so outraged; there were so many bad calls in that game., But as Chipper said, the errors were what lost the game. And I am also happy the fans did not sit down on their hands. They were fired up and that’s awesome to see. So many Braves games, even playoff, where the fans are just sitting enjoying their overpriced food. Good to see enthusiasm. No embarrassment here.
October 6th, 20128:41 am
Btw, thanks for letting me get that off my chest.
October 6th, 20128:42 am
The pundits last night gave several examples when a similar call had been made. You just happened to be watching something else at the time or conveniently didn’t notice it because, perhaps, the call benefited your team.
October 6th, 20128:45 am
Disputed infield fly rule call tarnishes Cards win, first-ever wild-card game. From ESPN.
Oh and go Washington. I hope they sweep the Cards. I know its sour grapes but I would’ve much rather played Cincinnati. I hope the league disbands this ridiculous one game next year.
October 6th, 20128:46 am
Curse of Jim Leyritz continues.
October 6th, 20128:49 am
And by the way, this is now in Wikipedia regarding the infield fly rule:
Following the controversy, Major League Baseball removed the irreverent phrase “We don’t understand the infield fly rule, either.” from its biography on its official Twitter feed.
October 6th, 20128:50 am
The infield fly rule has never, I repeat never been called that far from home plate. 250 feet from home plate. Itg has never before happened.
October 6th, 20128:51 am
the braves are a bunch of losers and the cards are a bunch of winners. it would not surprise me if the cards did not go all the way again….
ps the call was legal….
October 6th, 20128:52 am
Now, let me begin by saying,” Thanks to the Braves for this season”. Now that Chipper Jones is done, I hope the fans of Atlanta reliaze how much of a waste he really was. Our infield has suffered with Chipper Jones at third, and his inconsistent fielding errors are the traits of a high school player learning to play in the show.Professionals are supposed to get it right on the field, off the field he can make errors. I hope Liberty Media is reading, Freddy Gonzalez has to be relieved of his duties, just say thanks and take the ball from him. The fans deserve better, this city is comprised of wonderful families who spend their hard earned money on this poorly ran organization, while the coach and players showcase their rewards, the fans wait for whenever. Mr. Malone, Please send Freddy and his Harley riding off in the sunset, and let the Braves rise to excellence.
October 6th, 20128:53 am
Prado's fan club
October 6th, 20128:54 am
Was anyone else bothered that Chipper did not hustle down the line in his last career at bat? I thought that was painfully embarrassing and the broadcasters did not mention it when you know they were thinking the same thing
October 6th, 20128:59 am
Really?? Think about this. Holliday picks up the loose ball. Forces runner out at third and maybe the cards turn a double play. Does anyone not think the braves are screaming how come the umpires did not protect the runners? Chipper is a class act. Took the criticism of his play and blamed himself. Shame that most of the fans at the game could not muster up the same class.
October 6th, 20129:01 am
usual result , although highly unusual way to lose. Uggla has to go. He stinks… Bourne stunk the second half of the season.. resign but at what cost? McCann needs new shoulder and two new eyes.. Pitching looks solid. gonna miss Chipper.. spark when we needed it, but not tonight. fairwell tour wore him out carrying all the gifts home.
oh well… always next year…
October 6th, 20129:02 am
it was not medlen’s fault he only gave up 2 earned runs it was your beloved jones simmons uggla an stupid simmons running out of the base line. those of you that said hudson should have started are the same ones that said medlen should have started a few days ago….
It seems this umpire is familiar with making calls that end with debris on the field. Same thing happened when he ejected McGwire. And for all those calling the Braves fans classless unlike in St. Louis …
October 6th, 20129:08 am
I want to be a disgrace…. I want ATL fans to be known as the nastiest in the nation…it’d be about time and maybe change our luck!
October 6th, 20129:10 am
I agree with Chipper….. no one can say whether that call cost us the game, our errors cost us the game……. But MLB has a serious blackeye with their silly Wild Game play in format. Awful, just plain AWFUL!!!
October 6th, 20129:18 am
Turner Field, located in a ghetto and surrounded by TRASH showed the country how trash fans react when things don’t go their way. The ump made the right call so go suck on it! The Brave lost because Choker Jones, Simpleton Simmons and Damn Uggla made stupid errors that led to 5 runs! Atlanta Braves fans are horrible and I am laughing my ass off that they and their team of losers lost again in a playoff’s deciding game! Have another cold one, LOSERS!
October 6th, 20129:19 am
I have never seen a more classless group of fans than the ones I saw at the Braves/Cardinals wildcard game. Not only because of the childish display of throwing debris but also the weak ovation for future hall of famer Chipper Jones. Way to go Atlanta, you should all be embarassed!!!
October 6th, 20129:20 am
how is it possible to apply the “infield” fly rule in left field?
English Speaking White Guy
October 6th, 20129:21 am
DOB – who is Joe Simpson actually employed by? What a shill!!! He calls the fans an embarrassment and yet Uggla can go 0 for 30 and Simpson says that he thinks that Uggla is ready to break out.
October 6th, 20129:22 am
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October 6th, 20129:26 am
thats tbs………its not the turner broadcasting system for nothing.
cards sting again………..atlanta must have brought those fans in from Lybia or Egypt
October 6th, 20129:28 am
As soon as the cameras showed Jimmy Carter at the game, I knew that the Braves were done for. Its the “Carter Curse”. Every time Carter is at a Braves game, they lose. The loser ex-pres brings his cloud of “malaise” and spreads it everywhere. Didn’t he have a hammer to nail or an American canal to give away?
Do us a favor ex…stay away from the Braves games!
The game was lost on sloppy play by the Braves, not the call.
Infield fly call was bad but, remember, the Braves got the benefit of two runs on acontroversial HR after the batter initially struck out. Calls even out and teams level out. Cards will always be better than Braves… STL is a baseball town, ATL is a football town… at least Georgia has the Dawgs to beat up on Mizzou now in the SEC.
October 6th, 20129:34 am
Worst call ever in a playoff game. That’s not we lost. All yr can’t hit with RISP and came back to bite us. Every yr we are in the playoffs this Braves team is just not mentally ready, coaching boys. We need to take a look at coaching to players, we need a few BLUE COLLAR TYPES!
October 6th, 20129:35 am
Infield fly rule really needs adjustments. The call should be made only in accordance around just outskirts edge of the dirt & grass if give a couple feet or 2, where’s Bud selig in all this, does Torre, & Garigiola have jurisdiction over him? & the call being made by Leftfield umpire, not by infield umpire, well this rule should be made for what it’s actual title is, infield – fly Rule made for plays in & around infield, until they come up with a mid-outfield fly rule, I might understand, but like Billy ripken said for the sake of fielders not letting balls drop on purpose to save for the harm of a double play, the runners by the naked eye, obvious, the play way out in mid left-field & if an infielder goes out their to retrieve, it should be he’s out their on his own factor. This “Clowny” call by hair lip Holebrook really needs to be investigated, & studied upon much deeper, this call,ruling should blatently be made for infield area, edge of dirt & grass judgement play, not for mid-range Leftfield or all midrange outfield. Yep stl. you gotta love the extra help & support you got for going into the next round. You BACKED DOORED YOURSELVES to the next round, Go Nats, stl. got in by w/ a li’l help by their friends, all by da’ Joes, Joe Holebrook, Joe Torre, Joe Grrigiola, & Lambash’n atl fan Joe simpson fits right in, Yeah Braves did not do like they should, los’n their brains w/ poor fielding, no clutch hitting w/ runners in scoring position, but ya’ll didn’t need the umpires smil’n at’cha on the field, sure Rossy’s homer may have been a do over pitch, but before loshe started his windup, He called time, it was a delayed reaction by the homeplate ump, cause ross had his backhand up, & verbally requesting time before loshe went into his windup.
October 6th, 20129:36 am
@coach k; Agreed!
October 6th, 20129:39 am
WORST call I have seen in awhile. That call did not beat us. This team yr after yr is not mentally tough in post season and they get out played and out coached. 3 errors, 12 men in scoring position, just one mental lapse after another. Need couple blue collar types and take a long look at Uggla, a joke and Fredi. What the hell was Bourn doing on that fly ball that scored a run, caught it flat footed and terrible throw to home, don’t offer him ridiculous money, he bailed 2nd half. pissed off for another offseason that we should have gone much farther
October 6th, 20129:44 am
Torre has no backbone. Sure it is a judgement call(a cop out answer), but the rule was not properly administered. Not immediate, no one under the ball, and who knew the infield extends halfway from baseline to the fence.
What no one is saying is the SS messed up running back into the LF way(the ump bailed HIM out).
I went to the game and really enjoyed the atmosphere. There’s nothing like a good baseball game with a packed house. I left there kinda wondering where the infield ends and the outfield starts. We had a pretty deeeeep infield last night. Even with the loss I’m pretty stoked about our upcoming Braves. The pitching is looking very promising, and we have a pretty good lineup of hitters. With Chipper leaving that should open the bank account up a little so we can buy another good hitter. As for Uggla, I say keep him for at ;east another season. I’d hate to let him go and then next year be his best yet. Building a championship team takes time and I think we’re on the right track to win it all in the near future. I’m still suspect of our hitting or batting coach, because our hitters all seem to slump at the same time which indicates lack of work in the batting cage which comes back to coaching. You don’t get batting practice on the golf course. I’m REALLY looking forward to next year. GO BRAVOS
October 6th, 20129:49 am
Look you die hard fans you should have seen it coming.The braves or the braves of old with a lot of young faces.The team had a old player that made a costly mistake that cost them three runs.So with that being said thats the last oice of the puzzle that needs to go.Face it if he don’t admite to his erros then who will.P.S CHIPPER COST THE TEAM THE GAME……………..
October 6th, 20129:50 am
I don’t think the call (albeit a bad one) had anything to do with the outcome of the game. The game was lost on costly errors. I really don’t understand everyone bad mouthing Medlen. He pitched a great game and only gave up two earned runs.
October 6th, 20129:51 am
Watch MLBTV to have the infield fly rule call explained. Watch ESPN to see several examples of this call made during the regular season. The umps got the call right. That makes the story of the night the ridiculous actions of the fans.Sorry Atlanta, you lost fair and square.
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