8:39 pm October 5, 2012, by David O'Brien
October 5th, 201211:34 pm
Good grief everybody, most everybody on here. We played a horrible game. Didn’t get it done. But we had a great season and will be ready next year. This is a good team (94 wins). We do need to get better and need some reinforcements, but no one needs to go. You haters are freaking idiots, or not real fans.
I like how FG managed this year and I think we need a few pieces for next year. Let’s get a new 3rd baseman and address center. Uggla needs a shorter leash and McCan needs to heal. Go braves!
I once went to the Vatican and lectured the Pope for not covering his mouth when he sneezed.
Chipper Jones ruined his own last game. He’s never been worse than that
Chipper and I have something n common…..this was both our last Braves Game. After being a Braves fan for 35 years, I am done. If MLB won’t get a replay system in place then what is the point of going? Just flip a coin and decide who will win…..it will be simpler.
Freddie Gonzalez is a gutless coward. The umps intimidate him and it shows. How he can remain in the dug out after that call??? He is the only manager who would be there. Every other manager in MLB would have made the umpires kick them out.
For the Braves, City of Atlanta and MLB security to treat this game like a regular season game is a joke. MLB manipulated the playoff games to cause tension of a game 7 situation. They did not have the security to match a game 7 situation. Thank god this happened in Atlanta. Anywhere else a riot would have occurred and people would be dead. The idiot who manages the 750 club should be fired. If they can’t figure out to pull the ketchup and mustard bottles after the first ones were thrown then they should be fired.
To the fans that threw the items, go back to your gang in the Northeast or Los Angeles. The game has followed the NBA and Football and it is now just a thug sport because of fans like you.
October 5th, 201211:35 pm
To Winners Mom: depends on how he plays with the Barbies
The real Joe Simpson
October 5th, 201211:36 pm
I’m a retard.
Fire Joe Simpson!!!!
October 5th, 201211:38 pm
What a worthless announcer! Why wouldn’t fans throw trash on the field, if Frank Wren and John Schuerholz keeping paying trash to stay on the field. Atlanta fans get teased more than some kid chasing a girl in HS. Then when they do get it, they have the stamina of the girl on a HS date to the prom.
there is never a valid reason to throw crap on the field.this was a disgrace.
hit a single
October 5th, 201211:39 pm
Bottom line is that the Braves offense stunk the last half of the season. You can only live off pitching for so long. The Braves still need a big stick especially with McCann struggling. I hope Uggla is gone. Alot of hustle but the worse major league hitter I have seen. He is like a softball player, no approach. Thank God for pitching the month of September. Offense stunk. I guess we go after another hitting coach. Time to quit blaming it on that.
October 5th, 201211:40 pm
I’m glad they threw trash. The call would have been buried by the MLB if they hadn’t. Atrocious call that deserved the extra attention.
The call did not cause the braves to loose. I agree. They lack grit. I agree. But McCann in the playoffs with the bases loaded….i would take that bet even in his off year.
The call did impact the game and it was a blatantly incorrect call.
October 5th, 201211:41 pm
Also worse playoff format in any sport. One game was a joke. I would rather have had just one wild card team. Get Bud Selig out of there.
Larry, your an idiot like my son. You both probably play with Barbie Dolls.
October 5th, 201211:42 pm
The umpire can not call it until the ball begins to return to the ground, after reaching its highest point.
There is absolutely nothing that says you have to wait for the ball to be on its way down before calling the infield fly rule. Actually, it’s usually called immediately, before the ball ever reaches the top of its arc.
It actually says When it seems apparent that a batted ball will be an Infield Fly, the umpire shall immediately declare Infield Fly for the benefit of the runners.
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October 5th, 201211:43 pm
Oops. Messed up the slanties.
October 5th, 201211:45 pm
2 years of abject failure in the playoffs does not equal a good year.
If you can’t even make the nlds don’t put a plaque up.
This team is not good enough.
October 5th, 201211:46 pm
Its the cruse of the State of Georgia’s sporting teams! And people wonder why the fans here are the way they are! Year after year of let downs!
Joe Braves Fan
October 5th, 201211:49 pm
Overall, the Braves had a good year. Solid pitching and stellar relief from Kimbrel. Heyward, Prado, and Freeman all had a good years and they will only continue to improve. The “rook” Simmons will be good. No, I mean REAL good. Bourn may be asking too much, but I’d see if I could work something out if I were the Braves. I’d trade Brian McCann and go with Ross (he’s better). I’d ask Uggla to take a pay cut or get rid of him. You just can’t pay a guy like that and watch him produce so little.
I like Barbies. And Larry Jones. And Martin “the devil wears” Prado.
October 5th, 201211:51 pm
Now would someone please tell me again what it was the Braves were celebrating the other night? I am thoroughly confused! What was it the Braves won that caused the celebration?
October 5th, 201211:52 pm
Great being a Cardinal Fan. You always get to drink beer at the stadium late in October. 12 in 12 sounds very nice. Better luck next year. Braves are second best tonight
October 5th, 201211:54 pm
Great being a Cardinal fan. I love Arizona football.
Hilarious when did a player ever take a paycut
LOL at the Aints
October 5th, 201211:56 pm
Oh well too many young players, ,, Braves,, maybe next year, LOL,, Go Birds,
October 5th, 201211:58 pm
Michael Vick took a pay cut to play for the Eagles. That’s one
October 5th, 201211:59 pm
We feel your pain Texas. Nolan Ryan does not look happy.
October 6th, 201212:00 am
Isn’t it kind of funny that Jones cost the braves the game by throwing the ball over the shortstop head and costing them 3 runs…what a farce.
October 6th, 201212:01 am
Chipper set the tone with his error and the rest of the team followed. The fact he tipped his hat to the crowd, implying it was his final at-bat, in the bottom of the ninth was pathetic. The new regime cannot start soon enough.
A lot of pro athletes restructure their contracts to take a pay cut to stay in the city they want to play.
If Uggla doesn’t want to do it … “See ya!”
October 6th, 201212:02 am
Send Joe SImpson and Dan Uggla to Detroit for $1.
October 6th, 201212:04 am
Now things are getting uggla
Protest the World Series
October 6th, 201212:07 am
Torre did what was right for MLB and it’s bottom line. That has nothing to do with the integrity of the game or the fans.
October 6th, 201212:08 am
For prince fielder. At least he could field an infield fly
We should examine the cardinal organization clearly the braves have it backwards
The 162 are meaningless if you can’t hit and defend when it matters
David Ross was the best player on the field tonight
Rally killer Uggla is thanking The Lord for his wretched guaranteed contract.
That these Guys and umpires can’t be fired or questioned has ruined the sport.
If the same thing had happened to the home team in Detroit or Philly, wonder what the fan reaction would have been? Talk about ugly….
music city hammer
October 6th, 201212:09 am
Atlanta lost because:
1. No hitting! The wrong Braves team showed up. The lifeless, emotionless team we took apart all season dared to come back tonight. My wife’s comment, “Why don’t you guys care?”
2. No fielding! It has happened only a couple of times this year, but this was the wrong time. Statistics mean nothing (best fielding team in the NL regular season); performance today does.
3. Freddi’s 7th inning call. You are two runs down in a game you are struggling in offensive. The Cards have a runner at third and one out. You have watched this all too many times this year. You know what you are up against. If it is not already over, another run and it is. Not just the game, but the season is on the line. There hasn’t been a bigger spot all season. You have to strand the runner at third base. It is closer time. Where was Kimbrell? What were you thinking? You don’t need him in the ninth three/four runs down. Hold ‘em in the seventh; keep the score close; keep the pressure on. You have a much better chance to come back from two than three or four. Not every save is made in the ninth in spite of the definition. Tonight the save was blown in the 7th.
A final thought, how much bigger would the blown call would have been if it had been a one run game which is what it could have been had the save been made in the 7th. That call should give MLB a lot of pause about a one game wild card. When there is no recourse (second game) an umpire’s call can very easily determine a post season advancement. Is that really what MLB wants?
October 6th, 201212:11 am
Uggla is going to drink muscle milk and all off season well hear his sob story about how that will never happen again. Except they would just be rehashing this year.
Without extensive changes this team WILL NOT Compete for anything real ever.
They cannot hit.
Just wait. Uggla will heat up in June. I meant July. Wait, he’s gonna tear it up in August. Watch out for him in September. He’ll get hot in October.
October 6th, 201212:12 am
Peace Out to choker who never won the big game like Dave Justice yet gets idolized for being a great switch hitter, please, Jones wasa great player but NEVER was real leader of men, too laid back or something. Always froze up in the big games…what other baseball star who never had clutch in his veins got idolized so much??? Cal Ripken. SMH.
I think this will be a better team next year without the Chipper,, He really blew it tonight,, And we dont need Boirne, or whatever his name is,,
Okay fair enough. But Philly is an anomaly. They’re clearly the lowest formog lfe on the planet. But among civilized cities. It’s a disgrace that our city with it’s southern charm resorted to this behavior. What our children think of our behavior?
Okay fair enough. But Philly is an anomaly. They’re clearly the lowest form of lfe on the planet. But among civilized cities. It’s a disgrace that our city with it’s southern charm resorted to this behavior. What our children think of our behavior?
It’s an organizational thing they don’t know how to fix it.
This is a year in year out disaster.
Strike out kings with RISP
October 6th, 201212:15 am
To PMC. Great idea. Going to make my GF drink muscle milk this off season. Perhaps improve her attitude if not mine!
Oh, and i am sick and tired of hearing we had a great season,, No We Did Not,, LOL
October 6th, 201212:16 am
People reacted that way because there was no other recourse.
Umpires are stubborn fools wrong or right. Obviously throwing objects on the field is something civilized people don’t do. But that was and amazingly horrible call on what could have been a big inning. All they had to do is just review it and fix it. But umpires are too stubborn to get it right
October 6th, 201212:17 am
Um um um….tried to tell y’all….how about learning the rules to the game before you show for your one game of the year:( stay classy Braves fans still Champs happy flight keep choking:)
October 6th, 201212:21 am
To redbird88. Yeah “missourah”. The other Pennsyltucky.
October 6th, 201212:25 am
GaKnight, if we’re talking classless, murdering soccer players after a loss and trampling fans to death doesn’t make a great case for “futbol.” Gimme a break
October 6th, 201212:26 am
12″ in 12″ stay classy Braves fans:)
October 6th, 201212:27 am
I went to a Cardinals game once and I was stunned by how many pretty blondes were there. I always thought that Dallas or Miami would have prettier women but I think the German immigrants in Mssouri were influencing all the blondes I saw. And the nice thing was they were all kinda “slow” if you know what I mean. Which of course worked for me since I’m from georgia myself
Chris in Marietta
October 6th, 201212:30 am
Umpire Holbrook, Joe Torre, and MLB basically out performed the NFL replacement refs in a half inning. It’s one thing to blow a call completely (Holbrook), but to actually look at the play and still make the same lousy decision (Torre) shows a level of stupidity that’s beyond anything we could have imagined. That’s not to say that the Braves played great – but at least they were making an attempt to come back until MLB and it’s lousy umpiring and “executives” decided to ensure their failure. Shame on MLB. I’m done!
You fans that are so disgusted by the fans throwing trash on the field are right. They should have been throwing it at those pathetic refs. The fans had a right to show their displeasure at those incompetent jerks. Never in the history of the game of baseball has an infield fly rule been called with the ball so far in the outfield. Hell it should be and automatic no infield fly rule if the outfielder has to catch the dang ball anyway. Maybe if Torre had a pair he would have done the right thing and over turn a obvious blunder. Instead he took the cowards way out. Big shocker there. Brave probably still loses, but we will never know for sure now. Thanks refs. You as usuall screwed it up yet once again.
October 6th, 201212:31 am
Medlen, you gave up one run. Yeah, I know they nailed you with two but Chipper had the DP and threw it away. Job well done. The infield imploded and that’s that. Lesson learned for the young guys. You get a shot and that’s it. If you leave anything to chance i.e the vagaries of umpire’s calls, you leave yourself open. We LOST this game and as much as I like Chipper, he was a big reason we lost. I hope Wren finds a few contact guys because invariably, strikeout pitchers find strikeout guys like Bourn in crucial situations. Next year should be interesting.
October 6th, 201212:35 am
Tdawg is right. The umpire injected himself in the game on an infield fly call I haven’ t seen in over 40 years of watching baseball…and i mean watching. That was a call that will live in infamy.
October 6th, 201212:38 am
As a Packer fan, we in Wisconsin feel your pain on that horrible Outfield Fly Rule call. Unlike the Seahawks game, that alone wasn’t what killed the Bravos tonight but it certainly was a momentum killer. Please DC end the Cardinals season in short order. Or in 7 on a blown call. Just end it.
Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor. Umps blow call in Atlanta. They shall live in infamy. Please don’t worry that they bases were loaded twice and that we has three errors. Totally disregard!
October 6th, 201212:40 am
Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor. Umps blow call in Atlanta. They shall live in infamy. Please don’t worry that they bases were loaded twice and that we had three errors. Totally disregard!
October 6th, 201212:41 am
Bite me and yours; John Paul and Headlines.
October 6th, 201212:43 am
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October 6th, 201212:47 am
I would still be throwing trash on the field right now
October 6th, 201212:53 am
When the Braves go to spring training they should work on hitting with runners in scoring position. This ugly .231 RISP didn’t allow the team an attempt to cover up 3 fielding errors. Watching this team when they are behind they seem to lack confidence. In the 4th inning when Bourne led off with a signal there was no urgency to get in scoring position. How about a straight steal or hit and run. If the Braves would have been aggressive in the inning just maybe they could have scratched another run and been able to cover up Chipper’s error. I guess we will wait and see how upper management decides if a change in the dugout needs to be made. Any thoughts?
October 6th, 201212:54 am
Headline’s mother should be arrested and thrown in jail for squirting his dumb ass out and polluting the planet with his stupidity.
October 6th, 201212:55 am
remember we are thr brave and when you play us at home you are in brave counrty GO BRAVES
October 6th, 201212:56 am
chipper tipped hipped his capped but he deserved to
October 6th, 20121:03 am
2013 Wren TO DOs
1) Beg Liberty for 10mm more in payroll
2) Trade Uggla to Detroit, LA or anywhere for a bag of balls (and 3B prospect) & toss in 5mm in salary/year. Prado at 2B
3) Trade an arm + to Texas for Elvis
4) Trade Elvis or Simmons to AZ for Justin Upton for LF
5) Sign BJ Upton for CF
6) Sign a mega back load deal for Greinke
Not happening but needs to…
Proud of my Braves for a great season! Enjoyed watching Chipper for the last time (20 years)! I’m still a die-hard Braves fan and always ready for next year.
I love my ATL BRAVES!
October 6th, 20121:12 am
Well I guess this is it – MLB is now a crap sport If the commissioner does not step in and correct this it is over. I have 50 years of devotion but if this t-ball-league call is allowed to stand there is nothing left to separate MLB from the other garbage leagues – NFL, NBA, NHL which are nothing better than reality TV side shows…RIP MLB. BTW does anybody have an email address for Bud Selig?
October 6th, 20121:14 am
First of all this 1 game playoff is a total joke. You can’t take a 162 game season and pin it all on 1 game to see who advances. You could take the worst team in baseball and they could have beat either of these teams today in a 1 game playoff. This is a disgrace to MLB, all they are trying to do is make more money for the game!!! At the very least if you are going to have 2 wildcard teams, they should play a minimum 3 game series.
The Braves made some costly errors today that didn’t help, but that is my point, in a 1 game elimination you have to be perfect, anything can happen and did today. I hate it for Chipper and the entire Braves organization. We have a very good team and I think we would have went deep in the playoffs. Bottom line this SUCKS!!!
I didn’t get to see the end of the game, but it sounds like we got screwed out of a potential rally that could have won the game. I am sick that it ended this way. I can only hope that MLB changes this STUPID wildcard format.
Thanks for all the memories Chipper, see you in the HOF!
October 6th, 20121:16 am
another playoff choke for the braves—it never changes. another of many reasons they call atlanta loserville–it fits.
October 6th, 20121:18 am
i just wish umpire’s would say they made bad call.
October 6th, 20121:21 am
Brutal call, absolute nonsense. Having said that why can’t this franchise win home playoff games? That’s ten home series ending losses in twenty years, lost 16 of last 20 at home in the playoffs. The players change yet the same old story can’t get a big hit at the right time. Beyond frustrating.
Things I want to see next season:
-Another solid middle of the rotation starter to go along with Hudson, Medlen, Minor and Maholm. You can’t trust Hanson for next season. Bullpen is set.
-Bring up Todd Cunningham to man one of the OF spots. Let Bourn walk. You can’t give him the years and money he wants.
-Bring in another solid bat to replace Chipper (Cuddyer, Fowler, Ross, Hunter to name a few)
With all the money coming off the books from Chipper, Lowe and Bourn use the money for the above mentioned things plus extend the young guys, Freeman, Kimbrel, Heyward and Prado.
Big offseason with a lot of money to spend transitioning from Chipper’s team. I hope he stays around the team like Murph.
October 6th, 20121:25 am
First off, this one game play in is just plain stupid and I said that as soon as it was announced. Secondly, the errors lost the game. The absolutely ridiculous in field fly rule call cost them possibly a chance at getting back in it.
Now, for all you folks who diss the Braves as being a bunch of losers, don’t care, have no heart, etc., why don’t you move on over to Houston and see how you like it there? Just because a team loses a big game doesn’t mean they weren’t trying for crying out loud. Maybe they were trying too hard?
Oh, and by the way, even with the problems they have had all year with not plating RISP, which to me is their biggest issue for the last few years, they were still in a tie for the 4th best team in MLB.
So, all you haters of Fredi, Chipper, McCann, why don’t you just take a hike? Or show up in Orlando next spring and show us how YOU can do it better.
The Braves beat themselves (again) but that doesn’t mean they don’t care or did not try.
October 6th, 20121:26 am
Lastly, FGonz should have his contract terminated for not getting tossed on the infield FR call – B Cox would be in the process of being bonded out of the FC Jail about now had he been at the helm.
Still not sure why Braves fans are upset. The call really benefited them. According to Kozma he thought it was the outfielder calling him off when he heard it which is why he suddenly moved. So instead of 2 outs with runners on 1-2 they had two outs with runners on 2-3. Assuming Kozma would make the catch which looked routine from the replay.
I see the only reason why the Cardinals did not celebrate on our own field again this season, is that they did not feel safe doing so with the poor sports who showed up to the game tonight, like the call would have altered the game.
Day Old Fries
October 6th, 20121:32 am
12-27 in postseason since game one of the 1999 WS
12 and 27
T Brown – the call altered the game as the open base at first allowed them to walk Mac and go after a lead off man Bourne – it does matter!
October 6th, 20121:38 am
TL it altered the game positively for the Braves assuming Kozma would have made the catch not thinking the outfielder was calling him off.
October 6th, 20121:51 am
NO – the play was well outside the infield apron and in that area you have to either communicate visually, verbally or know/trust each other so they should have known what 12 yr olds know about baseball and you’re now into the area of what could have happened if someone’s shoe was untiled or a cat in a box may or may not be dead or alive
Mike in DC
October 6th, 20122:06 am
That call was a joke. I can’t believe it happened at Turner Field, maybe in St. Louis. There’s a huge difference between bases loaded and 1 out and 2nd & 3rd and 2 outs. Disgraceful.
October 6th, 20122:13 am
when does position players report this spring. I am only 52 with 3 neck operations but someone is going to have to take up the heart that has for the Braves. No one else has shown how to be aleader
or a winner.I can catch in a pinch if i have to.
October 6th, 20122:17 am
Why is this a surprise? This town always gets dumped on. So here we go again. ATL fans throw stuff, It’s about damn time!!!!!!
Chipper will be in Yankee pinstripes next year and pick up the 23 HRs he needs for 500
October 6th, 20122:20 am
The call wasn’t really the problem. The problem was the one-game playoff. No way should the Cardinals have been allowed a one-game shootout with the Braves after finishing *7* games behind the Braves in the regular season. This should be a best of 3 series at least, given the possibility of a large disparity in records between the wild cards. I mean, shouldn’t the difference in regular season records count for something? The people who run MLB must be insane if they think it’s fair to force a team that finishes well ahead of its playoff opponent into a one-game, anything-can-happen shootout. I mean, this same result could’ve happened if the Braves had won 105 games and the Cardinals 83. Surely a team ought to get more than one playoff game if it finishes the regular season way ahead of its playoff opponent. One game playoffs should be for tiebreakers only.
As far as I’m concerned, the fans in the stands had every right to throw stuff on the field in protest against this sham of a playoff. Clearly they would not have reacted as forcefully as they did had this been the last game of a 5 or 7 game series. It obviously hit home when the bad call occurred that the Braves were probably going home after only one playoff game, despite winning 93 games and finishing *7* games ahead of the Cardinals in the regular season.
With the rare exception of tiebreakers, playoffs in MLB have always been about multiple games, and fans should keep protesting against this new one-game playoff until MLB gets rid of it. I knew when they announced it there were going to be problems and complaints as soon as the first one occurred. Baseball is a game inches, and any MLB team can beat any other on a given day. I knew it was therefore inevitable that a bad call or some other bad break was going to allow a .500 team to send a team with 90+ wins packing after just one game. I also knew that the unfairness of this would cause a violent reaction from the fans of that team. As tasteless and classless as such a reaction might be, it is entirely understandable, given that this one-game playoff has undermined the whole tradition of MLB. Baseball is not football, and until the idiots who run MLB realize that, I for one am simply not going to invest any more time and money on MLB.
October 6th, 20122:24 am
Yes, the chipper error was a big deal. When Simmons freaked out and made an error that was a sinking feeling too. When Fredo called for a suicide freak choke bunt that was unsettling. When the Braves stranded 35 of 12 runners, that was no bueno, and when Uggla threw the ball to Chuck Knobloch that was not surprising, and if that what it was, we could say 110% choke job.
I was yelling at Derrick Lowe once saying something about how he was stealing his money and some mommy flipped out and I got a lecture from security. Not one curse word was uttered. I wasn’t even mad, I was just doing some mild heckling, trying to get some value out of a game where Derrick Lowe was getting pounded and I think Jamey Moyer was on cruise control the night after I saw Halliday toss a 2 hitter.
But “the call” matters because here is that team of pro chokers of epic proportions making one last come back, one last effort to dispel the myth. Too little too late? Maybe. Probably even. But the call was not about was it a tie goes to the runner, was the pitch 1″ outside and called a strike. It was so bad that Atlanta fans got up out of their seats and threw plastic Bud Light bottles onto the field. Think about what it takes to get Braves fans to to throw Bud Light, not even Budweiser, Bud Light bottles onto the field. The call was not, oh, it happens, sometimes you don’t get a break, it was a true stinker of a call.
And now the Braves truly are those choke artists that they probably were before tonight, a team powered by their backup catcher, let down by their hero and failed by their big free agent and now add the umps, Joe Torre and Yadier Molinia’s tweets into the mix.
It took me until the All -Star break to get over the collapse and what it meant to have Braves to be this futile after the Yankees kick our jock in 1996, or as another poster put it, 1966, and now with all the HoF pitching gone, Andruw Jones at 300 pounds and Chipper in a deer stand, I won’t watch any post season this year, just like last year, and I would not be surprised if I never really follow baseball the same again.
To Joe Simpson and the embarrassed by the fans set, a tirade of profanity in your direction. That wonderful display of trash, that scene of mass litter equaled only by my own Old 4th Ward neighborhood or the 1979 Disco Riot at Comiskey, the scene of such disgrace, that Braves fans, was your finest hour.
October 6th, 20122:27 am
Safety squeeze with number 8 hitter. so Typical!
No reason to let Bourne run with nobody on!
Sure Wren will tell us it was another great yr/
October 6th, 20122:31 am
No accountability in this College town.
October 6th, 20122:40 am
‘Twas the drunken redneck fans who marred the game, not the call. It was correct. General Sherman, where are you when we need you.
October 6th, 20122:43 am
It was a debatable call, but not completly wrong. Kozma wa camped under the ball, bu thought he heard Holiday call him off. The infield fly rule should maybe have been called sooner, but the left field ump waited until he was sure that it was a routine catch. If Kozma had dropped the ball on purpose and the infield fly ball hadn’t been called, a double play might have resulted, and all the ignorant Brave fans would have been yelling that it should have been called. The Braves lost the game because of 3 errors. The team that played the best won the game. Chipper Jones had the class to say so. After reading some of the comments about a first ballot hall of fame player on this board, I can completly understand why Atlanta is such a bad baseball town. Chipper got a better reception in his last game in St. Louis, than he did in his last game in Atlanta
October 6th, 20122:47 am
It is obvious the yanks have invaded the south- bottle throwing is simply not acceptable in the South. If you cannot mind your manners- move back north!
October 6th, 20122:50 am
Freddie Manager of the Year is equivalent to Dan Uggla being an All-Star. Both suck. Liberty Media ownership sucks more though.
October 6th, 20122:59 am
what a bad call giving Ross the timeout, Lohse struck him out – COULD HAVE BEEN THE ST.LOUIS HEADLINE
October 6th, 20123:02 am
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