Braves shift focus to Friday’s Wild Card game

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P-Town Brave ©

October 3rd, 2012
10:55 am

Lew-

Great points and yeah, I’m sorry, but to me, RBI are meaningful….

Especially for anyone who has watched the 2012 Braves and their ineptitude of getting guys home w/ RISP & < 2 outs

Frankie

October 3rd, 2012
10:55 am

It’s Earl Weaver time for the Braves on Friday night. Somebody needs a tator with couple men on base. FG will play tight as mouse’s rear end playing small ball from first inning on. This playin game could very well be decided on what Manager outhinks the other. That’s a scary thought. Matheny has been up and down but I think he’s going to be a pretty good one. Let’s hope inexperience shows Friday.

P-Town Brave ©

October 3rd, 2012
10:57 am

Prado is above and away the MVP…

Been consistent all year long unlike the rest of the position players….

Also, anyone who wants to doubt the RBI stat….

Think of it this way and the Braves inability to score w/ RISP & less than 2 outs….

IF Freddie Freeman were hitting .290 instead of in the .260’s….he would probably have about 110 RBI about now….

Frankie

October 3rd, 2012
10:57 am

I’ll take Kimbrel as our MVP. Prado has been extremely solid but Kimbrel has been unconcious in his capacity. Just brilliant.

Tomahawkin (LCS or BUST)

October 3rd, 2012
10:57 am

Cant believe its the last day of the Season…Seems Like yesterday we had started off getting Swept in The Rotten Apple…That meant the Division :(

UKUGA

October 3rd, 2012
10:57 am

Lew is the MVP

Most Valuable Painter

Go Braves!

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 3rd, 2012
10:57 am

Bourn is our MVP? Total BS – Prado is and has been all year long.

Sarcasm… I know it’s Prado.

Murph

October 3rd, 2012
10:58 am

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I just read the stupid Server Error page that I’ve been getting so often over the last few days… I love how the AJC blames the user for the problem. “Inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error”…. yeah, I hit the refresh button.

TennesseePaul

October 3rd, 2012
10:58 am

I mean, what does Stark expect?

He expects baseball fans to respect the triple crown. Enjoy the accomplishment and award Trout the MVP.

Ted Williams hit the Triple Crown twice. He did not win the MVP in those years. But people celebrated the event and the MVP award.

George_George

October 3rd, 2012
10:58 am

Lew

October 3rd, 2012
10:46 am
There is no mathmatical formula that will ever do away with subjectivity in baseball evaluation. There just isn’t – but I bet they’ll keep trying to invent one, anyway.

Now I realize exactly why some believe that RBI have no meaning in player evaluation and see there is some reason to this, but one thing has always made me scratch my head – if RBI are so meaningless, then why is hitting with RISP such a vaunted skill?

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As always Lew is the voice of reason. Of course RBIs are important, RUNS WIN BALLGAMES.

Tomahawkin (LCS or BUST)

October 3rd, 2012
10:59 am

Frankie

“I’ll take Kimbrel as our MVP. Prado has been extremely solid but Kimbrel has been unconcious in his capacity. Just brilliant.”

Co-Sign!

Durbin =’s Unsung Hero of the year after I dogged him on Being “Gas Can” he has shut me up since May 1st

Efrim

October 3rd, 2012
10:59 am

Tough call between Prado and Heyward. Heyward had it a month ago, but Prado has brought it very close – and his ability to play multiple positions probably puts him ahead for me. Close.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 3rd, 2012
11:00 am

I’ll take Miggy and his many RBIs + better and more even batting than Trout and a few hot streaks with some defense.

DawgDad

October 3rd, 2012
11:00 am

MLB is once again doing its best immitation of the NHL, which is whatever it can do to alienate its best fans. WHEN is the game on Friday?

OK, admittedly I erred, buying tickets in expectation of the game being a night game, like ALL Friday games these days. I will note for the record, I’ve heard the Braves on-air announcers refer to the Wild Card game on “Friday night”. If they play this game in the day there will be at least two very ticked off Braves fans.

usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
11:00 am

Who said Bourn? I agree, that’s crazy.

DAP

October 3rd, 2012
11:00 am

efrim, how about medlen record this year? his teams has won in 23 consecutive starts. the longest such streak in the history of baseball. thats cool, right? even though its “context dependent”?

David O'Brien

October 3rd, 2012
11:00 am

Braves will wear white jerseys on Friday, not the Friday reds. Because Cardinals’ uniforms are red and white.

Tomahawkin (LCS or BUST)

October 3rd, 2012
11:01 am

Jayson Stark Ripped Yunel Escobar on ESPN .com

“2012 AL LVP” OUCH!

He Also called the Whole Marlins team the 2012 NL LVP, OUCH

Its a good article though, but the Marlins deserved to be ripped ditto for Yunel

Lew

October 3rd, 2012
11:01 am

Only Braves – Well, judging from most of your commentary, one wonders about the sarcasm. You have some bizarre ideas at the best of times – Too much Man Love for some players and way too much hate for others – makes one question your objectivity understanding at times..

UKUGA – Thank you.

George_George

October 3rd, 2012
11:01 am

Murph

October 3rd, 2012
10:58 am
Please contact the server administrator, itgadmin@ajc.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

I just read the stupid Server Error page that I’ve been getting so often over the last few days… I love how the AJC blames the user for the problem. “Inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error”…. yeah, I hit the refresh button.

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usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
11:01 am

DOB,
Is that the Whites with or without the names on the back?

Frankie

October 3rd, 2012
11:01 am

Heyward has had a solid year. MVP, c’mon man. Heyward was brutal in May and disappointing in September. Not that close really.

phil

October 3rd, 2012
11:02 am

unbelievable

October 3rd, 2012
10:35 am

MFin04 – Nothing is lost in a WAR conversation. It takes hitting, defense, and baserunning into play to evaluate total performance. MVP awards should go to the best all-around player, correct? Some people want to look at just offensive production to evaluate players. Trout shouldnt be penalized for the RBI conversation just because he’s a leadoff hitter. Both of these guys are great players, but Trout is far superior when it comes to defense, baserunning, and according to OPS+ they are basically the same hitter.
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LOL

David O'Brien

October 3rd, 2012
11:02 am

Chipper said he needs the two days of rest more than a few ABs. Might pinch-hit today. “I’m not healthy,” he said. “Knees, back….”

When fans were yelling for Fredi to play him near end of Tuesday night’s game, Fredi looked over to Chipper and he told the manager, no. Not going in.

Brian from SC

October 3rd, 2012
11:02 am

Regular home whites…good. I like the standard look for the playoffs.

TBrown

October 3rd, 2012
11:03 am

I don’t have the time to sit around and debate this all day, but Mike Trout is the MVP of the American League. You can romanticize about the Triple Crown all you want and, historically, it’s a great accomplishment. But Mike Trout is the most valuable player. I echo Efrim’s sentiments.

Efrim

October 3rd, 2012
11:03 am

He expects baseball fans to respect the triple crown. Enjoy the accomplishment and award Trout the MVP.

This is incredibly difficult for some to do when the person or persons that they are arguing with are pointing to that as the factor on who to provide the MVP award with. It’s tough for some to respect it when a third of the award is what some don’t believe is a useful stat. I get what you’re saying overall, but I am in no way surprised that this all got here.

Jeff R

October 3rd, 2012
11:04 am

Prefer the white to the red jerseys, anyway. And the regular home caps to the Friday tomahawk-dominated cap.

MFin04

October 3rd, 2012
11:05 am

“I’ll take Kimbrel as our MVP. Prado has been extremely solid but Kimbrel has been unconcious in his capacity.”

Ok, I’ll take the bait. I just don’t see closers as that valuable. What he has done could earn him the Cy Young as best pitcher in the NL because he has put up absurd numbers, and I agree with that, but I don’t believe that makes him the most valuable Brave. I don’t believe he has led this team to THAT many wins.

And as for playoff value of pitchers. Which is more valuable: 6-9 innings of a starter in a playoff game OR 1 inning of a closer. That doesn’t even seem like a fair or reasonable comparison at all.

UKUGA

October 3rd, 2012
11:06 am

I am convinced DOB knows more than he’s letting on about this game on Friday.

I mean, he knows the uniform colors and everything.

I think the secret may be hidden in Chip Caray’s eyebrows. Tune in at noon today and see if you can decipher the code.

And yes, this does alienate fans. I can make it, no problem, but most people I talk to want and need to know the time before making a commitment.

Jeff R

October 3rd, 2012
11:06 am

Chipper said he needs the two days of rest more than a few ABs. Might pinch-hit today. “I’m not healthy,” he said. “Knees, back….”

When fans were yelling for Fredi to play him near end of Tuesday night’s game, Fredi looked over to Chipper and he told the manager, no. Not going in.

It didn’t look like Chipper was running very well on Monday night.

UKUGA

October 3rd, 2012
11:08 am

Pretty sure we wore those ugly red jerseys when we lost game 1 to Houston in 2005. The game before Mac took Clemens deep.

What a difference 7 years make. Now, we’re debating whether or not Mac should even play in this one.

Whither Todd Pratt?

Tomahawkin (LCS or BUST)

October 3rd, 2012
11:08 am

Frankie

“Heyward has had a solid year. MVP, c’mon man. Heyward was brutal in May and disappointing in September. Not that close really.”

NoDiddidity! No Doub’t…Martini has played Excellent D at 5 positions…Martini is the team MVP in a Landslide

Heyward is Team Comeback POY in a Landslide

Brian from SC

October 3rd, 2012
11:08 am

Kyle Lohse is 0-3 with a 7.13 ERA in four career postseason starts.

DawgDad

October 3rd, 2012
11:09 am

I would say the Braves MVP is Prado, based on overall contribution. Kimbrel and Jones get honorable mention.

The players with the biggest impact were Simmons and Medlen. Keep in mind Simmons’ defense may well have prompted Wren to acquire Janish as a replacement. Sheets made an impact – but then turned it back. Medlen saved the season, plain and simple.

Tomahawkin (LCS or BUST)

October 3rd, 2012
11:09 am

Whither Todd Pratt?

Or Dorky Miller, Gawd he was Beerball/Softball league Material

Shaun

October 3rd, 2012
11:09 am

MVP is which player contributed the most to helping his team win and increasing their chances to win.

To determine this, one must break a player’s contributions down to outs and bases, because this is what baseball is all about.

Trout did more than anyone in terms of avoiding outs at the plate, gaining bases, making outs on defense and keeping opponents from gaining bases, when you take all of that in total.

The problems with only focusing on the Triple Crown when determining MVP is that a) it only looks at one portion of one side of the ball (it’s all about what a player does at the plate and it doesn’t account for baserunning or defense); b) it doesn’t take in to account every aspect of what a player does at the plate (walks are ignored); and c) it assumes RBI are some sort of aspect of offensive value instead of what they are, which is an opportunity-based statistic.

That’s about as simple as I can make the argument for Trout as MVP. It doesn’t mean Cabrera had less than a great season or that he should be left off of MVP ballots entirely or that everyone who thinks Trout is the MVP hates Cabrera. It doesn’t mean it’s all about WAR.

Jeff R

October 3rd, 2012
11:10 am

Kyle Lohse is 0-3 with a 7.13 ERA in four career postseason starts.

He’s due. Perish the thought!

George_George

October 3rd, 2012
11:10 am

Why can’t there be two nightgames Friday? AL folks can watch there game, we can watch our game, One game on TBS, One game on TNT. I am sorry MLB is not very smart, they do very little for the fans.

Brian from SC

October 3rd, 2012
11:11 am

Tim Hudson is the only pitcher in the Braves’ playoff rotation who has ever appeared in the postseason.

phil

October 3rd, 2012
11:12 am

It’s Cabrera and it isn’t close….WAR, regular stats, whatever…..

I thought stolen bases didn’t bring that much to the table, per Nolie? And I’ve come around to that way of thinking.

Trout has robbed some folks of some homers, but his team is staying home. He’s a leadoff guy. So what. Too bad.

And heck, I like the Trout kid and don’t like Cabrera, but a triple crown winner going to the playoffs over a rookie who can run, hit and field and who’s staying home in October? I’m not seeing denying this thing to Cabrera.

P-Town Brave ©

October 3rd, 2012
11:12 am

TOBF-

Cmon now, you should know protocol by now…

If you’re gonna use sarcasm at least use a :eek: or a :cool: or even a :twisted:

Heck, even the :idea: works for some :lol:

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 3rd, 2012
11:13 am

Tough call between Prado and Heyward. Heyward had it a month ago

Disagree, but…

Brian from SC

October 3rd, 2012
11:14 am

Tim Hudson has never been on a team that won a postseason series. His teams (A’s and Braves) are 2-8 in games he’s appeared in, though he has a 3.46 ERA in those games.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 3rd, 2012
11:14 am

David O’Brien ‏@ajcbraves
#Braves Gonzalez said if get to div. series, Huddy starts gm 1, then Minor or Maholm, then Medlen in gm. 3 (presumably Minor or Maholm in 4)

Why is there a decision between Minor or Maholm…. Minor is the obvious choice. He’s our 2nd best starter since July1, and he pitches better at home. (only 5 away starts since July 1, though he does have a good ERA)

P-Town Brave ©

October 3rd, 2012
11:15 am

So….who thinks the Braves are gonna end up w/ a late afternoon game Friday and I’m going to be incredibly unproductive at work….

Raise of hands? (and yes, I am holding mine up)

DawgDad

October 3rd, 2012
11:15 am

“Kyle Lohse is 0-3 with a 7.13 ERA in four career postseason starts.”

I have to believe LaRussa would run out a lefty, ANY lefty. I’ll believe this when I see him take the mound Friday.

Capt.Mudd

October 3rd, 2012
11:15 am

Only when I rekindle thoughts of the cooling process…..[freshly baked apple pie]….am I able to retain the patience required to begin to comprehend our current offense–or lack thereof.

Fortunately, my taste for baked apples with sugar and cinnamon and topped with golden brown crust has not waned. Although my patience dealing with the ‘process’ is often challenged. The lessons I got as a mere lad of eight still hold true. Everyone want their piece of the pie!

Perhaps this Friday our hitters will revive their bats to the level of Mom’s hot apple pie. Is Delicious an apt term to apply in describing the 2012 Braves effort? At certain times our seasoned approach at the plate has produced sweet results–enough for 93 wins–and, well, about as fast as a cool pie is eaten….things get cold fast….like as if the production sympatico will never again be.

Or will it? Yes we need a stronger means of ‘willing it.’ This Friday could be our last chance!

phil

October 3rd, 2012
11:16 am

One does not have to break down jack squat…..

Cabrera easily had the better season. MVP has historically been an offensive award. Pitchers almost never win it, and defenders with little offense to add never win it.

It’s not a difficult concept. Not saying I even like it being this way, but it is what it is….

Jeff R

October 3rd, 2012
11:16 am

Tim Hudson has never been on a team that won a postseason series. His teams (A’s and Braves) are 2-8 in games he’s appeared in, though he has a 3.46 ERA in those games.

He’s due. Encourage the thought.

P-Town Brave ©

October 3rd, 2012
11:17 am

No no NO!

Heyward may have had a solid overall year, but when you consider month by month and week by week, Prado has not only been the model of consistency, BUT he has done it while being asked to play LF and then move to 3B when Chipper needs a day off or move to 2B when Uggla was struggling and then was asked to fill in at SS when both our SS went down and then when they wanted more offense than Janish could provide….

Prado has done it all, done it all well, and even didn’t look out of place at SS….

Prado has been THE guy

phil

October 3rd, 2012
11:19 am

We might just want to win on Friday before we start worrying about Sunday….

Tomahawkin (LCS or BUST)

October 3rd, 2012
11:19 am

@P-Town Brave

Co-Sign on that 11:17 post

MFin04

October 3rd, 2012
11:19 am

“Fredi looked over to Chipper and he told the manager, no. Not going in.”

Good for Chipper. Glad to see him resting when he needs to rest. Hopefully he comes out swinging Friday.

Brian from SC

October 3rd, 2012
11:20 am

With the way the Braves have hit of late, the bottom line is this: the Braves’ postseason fate is, for now, in the hands of Kris Medlen. We gotta go to that well one more time. That little man has a lot of guts; I hope he welcomes the burden.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 3rd, 2012
11:20 am

to clarify my above post, I’m saying that I disagree that Heyward had the award a month ago… not really close in my mind

Tomahawkin (LCS or BUST)

October 3rd, 2012
11:20 am

P-Town Brave ©

“So….who thinks the Braves are gonna end up w/ a late afternoon game Friday and I’m going to be incredibly unproductive at work….

Raise of hands? (and yes, I am holding mine up)”

I will work a 1/2 day to go and tailgate, then hang out at the Chophouse

George_George

October 3rd, 2012
11:21 am

MARTIN BRAVES MV postion player 2012. MEDLEN MV BRAVES Pitcher.

UKUGA

October 3rd, 2012
11:21 am

Hudson has 3 post-season starts with the Braves

G1 of the 2005 LDS – not good
G4 of the 2005 LDS – solid – Braves lost in 18 innings
G2 of the 2010 LDS – great performance

Braves lost both his starts in 2005 and won the 2010 game (Rick Ankiel’s homer).

ncscoots

October 3rd, 2012
11:22 am

FG will play tight as mouse’s rear end playing small ball from first inning on.

Certainly a valid fear, and the best way to lose the game. Two-run jack from Heyward in the first might be the only way to save Fredo from himself.

MFin04

October 3rd, 2012
11:22 am

“MVP is which player contributed the most to helping his team win and increasing their chances to win.”

Yep. Trout faltered down the stretch. Cabrera didn’t. Thus Trout loses MVP. One guy led his team to the playoffs, one didn’t.

phil

October 3rd, 2012
11:22 am

Heyward? LOL

Definitely Prado. The guy has played darn near every position and has gone to the post nearly every day.

It’s not even close.

Mike Berry

October 3rd, 2012
11:23 am

I like the way Joe Simpson put it the other night concerning the AL MVP. Would Detroit have made the playoffs without Cabrera’s #s this season? NO. Did Trout’s #s help the Angels make the playoffs this season? NO. Enough said. Trout…you had an amazing season…but Cabrera is the MVP.

Tomahawkin (LCS or BUST)

October 3rd, 2012
11:23 am

I told everyone to Bank on 92 wins and I ended up -1 on the differential, Not Too Shabby

P-Town Brave ©

October 3rd, 2012
11:23 am

T-Hawkin-

Yeah, as I watched the final out Sunday and saw the banners and then went to the airport, I was trying my hardest to convince myself I could afford to stay in a hotel for another week and absorb the cost…

Between me and the fiance, our house, jobs, and etc won out (sadly)

Murph

October 3rd, 2012
11:23 am

Without Prado and the flexibility he provided while still producing day in and day out, this team is not where it is at the end of the season. I know he only had 10 HR and a handful of RBI, but Prado is the heart and soul of this squad, doing whatever is asked of him to help the team win.

That, to me, is an MVP.

MFin04

October 3rd, 2012
11:24 am

If we have to rely on our manager to win this game, we shouldn’t even be playing in the stupid game. Players win games. Managers manage games. If our pitching/hitting/defense shows up, we win the game. If they don’t it certainly isn’t on our manager.

unbelievable

October 3rd, 2012
11:24 am

“MVP is which player contributed the most to helping his team win and increasing their chances to win.”

Yep.

Angels called up Trout when they were 6-14. Angels are 89-72, Detroit is 87-74.

Tomahawkin (LCS or BUST)

October 3rd, 2012
11:25 am

Cant Believe That Big Ben Sheets Is Retiring!

Seems like Yesterday I was investing in his Bowman Rookie Cards

ncscoots

October 3rd, 2012
11:25 am

Prado is the heart and soul of this squad, doing whatever is asked of him to help the team win.

Maybe you should give him The David Eckstein Trophy, instead. :-)

unbelievable

October 3rd, 2012
11:27 am

Please dont use a Joe Simpson quote as a base for a discussion.

Jeff R

October 3rd, 2012
11:27 am

We might just want to win on Friday before we start worrying about Sunday….

Yes. The cart doesn’t go before the horse… or mule, ox, or water buffalo.

Capt.Mudd

October 3rd, 2012
11:27 am

Chipper knows when to fold ‘em…..Fredi knows ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..//////////////////////////////

George_George

October 3rd, 2012
11:27 am

Outta here for a bit. WOW I have been so nice today. Have a good one all.

phil

October 3rd, 2012
11:27 am

If Heyward does a thing offensively on Friday other than foul pitches off to the left or ground out to second, I’ll be pleasantly surprised…

His ringing single the other night was all we’ve seen in days offensively, so maybe I’ll be wrong.

haggard

October 3rd, 2012
11:27 am

Our old friend Francouer seems to have bottomed out this season, and for no particular reason. When I saw his .237/16/47 line with a .289 OBP and .381 slugging average, I thought surely he must have missed significant time due to injury.. However, that’s not the case as he’s played 147 games with 557 at bats. A salary at $6,700,000, still just 28 years old. I’ve never rooted against him, but have shaken my head many a time when attempting to understand the arc of his career. The Natural of The Baby Braves.

TBrown

October 3rd, 2012
11:27 am

Cabrera is going to the playoffs and Trout is staying home? The Angels have a better record and play in a tougher divison. Next argument.

Hillbilly

October 3rd, 2012
11:29 am

That little man has a lot of guts; I hope he welcomes the burden.

I said this a few weeks back: How funny is it to see how loose and relaxed Medlen is now, compared to how nervous and jittery he was in his first Major League start vs. Colorado a few years back? Hard to imagine that’s the same guy.

phil

October 3rd, 2012
11:29 am

We win Friday by AVOIDING our bench….

Period.

That means we score 4 or 5 runs and Medlen limits em to 1 or 2.

Otherwise, aside from possibly Ross, we’re in trouble.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 3rd, 2012
11:29 am

MVP is which player contributed the most to helping his team win and increasing their chances to win.”

Yep. Trout faltered down the stretch. Cabrera didn’t. Thus Trout loses MVP. One guy led his team to the playoffs, one didn’t.

Would Detroit have made the playoffs without Cabrera’s #s this season? NO. Did Trout’s #s help the Angels make the playoffs this season? NO. Enough said.

Great points all. Agree totally.

Angels called up Trout when they were 6-14. Angels are 89-72, Detroit is 87-74.

Who cares about the record…. the Angels aren’t playing in the post-season. They have no chance for a World Series. They even got Zack Greinke and Frieri, and Trout couldn’t help his team make up 3-4 games for the last month.

Jeff R

October 3rd, 2012
11:30 am

Francoeur was lie a roman candle: he went up high, burned brightly for an instant, and then fizzled.

Efrim

October 3rd, 2012
11:30 am

It’s definitely close between Prado and Heyward. I wouldn’ have a problem with anyone backing either of them.

ncscoots

October 3rd, 2012
11:30 am

If Heyward does a thing offensively on Friday other than foul pitches off to the left or ground out to second, I’ll be pleasantly surprised…

phil, you’ll be “pleasantly surprised” at any outcome short of the charter going down in flames.

P-Town Brave ©

October 3rd, 2012
11:32 am

For me, its Prado, Medlen, Kimbrel….

And the only guys close in any of the 3 categories are Minor (for his 2nd half) and O’Flaherty as he only had 1 bad week at beginning of the year…

That said, the playoffs are all about erasing what you did during the regular season and stepping up…..so maybe someone can step up alongside Prado and get hot and help carry the offense to some more runs….A thought for me would be a greater emphasis on putting the ball in play….as you never know what will happen when you make contact….

FWIW, Chipper is 6 for 13, Prado 6 for 14, and Uggla 5 for 15 against Lohse….

Also, we have 6 possible bench players who are 19-51 against Lohse for a .373 average…

That list includes Constanza who is 2 for 2, Ross 1 for 2, Reed Johnson 4 for 10, Overbay 5 for 13, Hinske 6 for 19, and Baker 1 for 5

ONLY Bourn and McCann struggle against Lohse

phil

October 3rd, 2012
11:32 am

Francoeur just always looked a little slow on the uptake to me. The guy would, and must still, swing wildly at anything the pitcher threw up there. No adjustments, no approach to an at bat based on the situation, you name it.

He was obviously dense as a brick for us to just dump him in mid-season like we did for nothing in return. We gave the guy away, and now it’s clear why.

Mike Berry

October 3rd, 2012
11:33 am

Unbeievable…a Joe Simpson quote is better than a quote from you any day.

unbelievable

October 3rd, 2012
11:33 am

Id sit Bmac on friday and start Ross.

Efrim

October 3rd, 2012
11:34 am

James Shields since the All-Star break: 15 starts, 109 IP, 73 hits, 34 ER, 24 BB’s, 114 K’s, 2.81 ERA.

Even with his contractual status, their deoth in starting pitching and need for middle of the order bats, I don’t see how it could make sense for the Rays to trade him this winter. Price, Shields, Moore, Hellickson is amazing. They need to figure out another way to bring in some bats to Longoria, Zobrist, Jennings, and Joyce.

raleighbravefan

October 3rd, 2012
11:34 am

MFin04 @9:05 – Today is a “must win game” …HUH ???

Unless, of course, by that you mean a “don’t let anyone get hurt in this almost totally MEANINGLESS game”.

Tomahawkin (LCS or BUST)

October 3rd, 2012
11:36 am

haggard

“Our old friend Francouer seems to have bottomed out this season, and for no particular reason. When I saw his .237/16/47 line with a .289 OBP and .381 slugging average”

Jayson Stark called him #2 In the AL LVP race, OUCH

I thought he was gonna have a good year playing little pressure baseball in KC… :(

unbelievable

October 3rd, 2012
11:36 am

Mike are you 12? Cant have a conversation without trying to make it personal huh?

Tomahawkin (LCS or BUST)

October 3rd, 2012
11:37 am

Mike Berry

“Unbeievable…a Joe Simpson quote is better than a quote from you any day.”

ouch…I like Ol Simp…He tries not to sugarcoat things….

Mike Berry

October 3rd, 2012
11:39 am

You made it personal Un…not me. And I’m probably twice your age.

haggard

October 3rd, 2012
11:39 am

Brian from SC

October 3rd, 2012
11:39 am

Bourn (7 for 46) and McCann (5-20, 1 HR) have struggle some against Lohse, but everyone else has mashed him pretty good. Chipper 6-13 with 1 HR, 6 BB and 1 K, Uggla 5-15 with a HR, Prado 6-14, Heyward 2-7 with two doubles and 2 walks, Freeman 2-3 with a HR.

Venice Jim

October 3rd, 2012
11:39 am

Adam Kilgore ‏@AdamKilgoreWP
Davey says he’d consider John Lannan for the rotation if they face Atlanta. He’s fared better against the Braves than any other team.
Davey on the wild card play-in: “I hate it.”

raleighbravefan

October 3rd, 2012
11:39 am

Let’s see…Joe Simpson’s knowledge of the Braves, and baseball in general… vs …that of Unbelievable. Guess which one I will pick every time?

David O'Brien

October 3rd, 2012
11:41 am

Braves are 25-9 with 2.04 ERA in past 34 home games. Hit only .229 in those games, but allowed 2 runs or fewer in 21 of the 34.

P-Town Brave ©

October 3rd, 2012
11:42 am

Never thought I would say this but I would consider starting Ross as well on Friday….

Medlen has been a whole run better w/ Ross behind the plate this year and about 1 3/4 runs over his career better w/ Rossy behind the dish

Frankie

October 3rd, 2012
11:42 am

“Prado is the heart and soul of this squad, doing whatever is asked of him to help the team win.

Maybe you should give him The David Eckstein Trophy, instead. ”

That’s pretty funny.

All of you Frenchy haters out there, no doubt he is not the player many thought he would be. Still, the guy’s future whatever it may be is pretty damn solid. He’s popular with his teammates and I can see the guy being on a network doing telecasts very easily. Francourer probably has more success and accomplishments at Parkview High School than majority on this blog. Kid’s future is pretty bright regardless what he does.

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