Braves shift focus to Friday’s Wild Card game

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usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
8:58 am

Lee in S GA,
Keith Lockhart or the much feared Ryan Langerhans.

Lew

October 3rd, 2012
8:59 am

I don’t think he’s 100% either.

But y’all do realize that as far as games go, that last night’s was about as meaningless a game as you’ll ever see – today’s too? Other than Chipper and Sheets retirement and it being their last regular season game, of course.

the truth...

October 3rd, 2012
9:01 am

Wish Brooksy was here and on the roster in place of Hinske………since he’d never be put in the field at 2nd he couldn’t hurt us there and God knows he can’t be any worse than Big Eric has been this year………..

usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
9:01 am

Lew,
yeah, i’ll admit a three-game losing streak heading into the postseason doesn’t look good, but it’s all cosmetic. These games mean NOTHING in the practical sense. Hanson had a chance to head out into the sunset on a high note, and it didn’t happen. I wish him the best.

MFin04

October 3rd, 2012
9:05 am

Must-win game today. Can’t go into the playoffs slumping. Would really like to see the offense break out today. Everyone got their rest yesterday and will tomorrow. Gotta go all out today.

Tomahawkin

October 3rd, 2012
9:06 am

usnavyvolfaninva

“Lee in S GA,
Keith Lockhart or the much feared Ryan Langerhans.”

I want Mike Mordecai or Mike Devereux back. They were Money in the Postseason

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 3rd, 2012
9:07 am

I could be wrong, but I refuse to believe that he can’t be as good as he was

He won’t be a #1-2 again…. I don’t think he’s done, but he won’t/shouldn’t be coming back as a Brave. Will be very hard to trade him this offseason.

Lew

October 3rd, 2012
9:07 am

navyvolfan – Yeah – maybe thy’ll trade him – maybe not. You can’t ever have too much pitching and he’ll still be relatively inexpensive next year – especially for a number five pitcher. But they do have a lot of young pitching they can’t keep hiding in the minors, so we’ll see how it shakes out. Wouldn’t surpirse me if they trade him or don’t.

But for a number five pitcher, he isn’t nearly as bad as most of the Fantasy baseballers make him out to be. Of course, some team might be willing to take all of our (supposed) dead weight in return for someone they don’t want to trade.

usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
9:11 am

Tomahawkin…
LOL…or pull Mark Lemke out of the studio and get him in there!

usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
9:14 am

TOBF,
Please don’t misunderstand; I don’t think the Braves should keep Hanson. Let him be someone else’s project. I’m just saying that he has the potential to be great again. But I’ve been wrong before (don’t tell my wife)

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 3rd, 2012
9:15 am

Hanson shouldn’t be our #5 next year… we have too many other good arms that need to contribute. I’m giving that spot to Delgado/Teheran next year

Shame for Hanson is that he had a chance to end his year on a good note. Feel bad for him.

MFin04

October 3rd, 2012
9:16 am

Problem Hanson’s upside is what? A 4 or 5 at this point? Why not try Delgado and Teheran. Hanson has shown the inability to go deep in games or keep the ball in the ballpark, hold runners, etc.

usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
9:16 am

BTW, I almost feel really sorry for Bobby Valentine. He goes out to check on one of his players, and gets a chorus of Boos from the Bronx faithful. Yeah, I know, it’s the Red Sox. But he also gets his share of boos from the Bostonians. Guy can’t win (on or off the field)

Veer

October 3rd, 2012
9:16 am

A’s deserve credit for what they have done with bunch of nobodies. Billy Beane is a genius.
A’s Rangers game is worth the watch today.

I suspect Rangers vs Orioles for the playoff game.

usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
9:18 am

Yeah, the A’s came out of nowhere, didn’t they? I have to be careful what I say around the wife, she being a Texan. I almost got served divorce papers when I asked her how the Cowboys did on Monday night. LOL

Brian from SC

October 3rd, 2012
9:18 am

Must-win game today. Can’t go into the playoffs slumping. Would really like to see the offense break out today. Everyone got their rest yesterday and will tomorrow. Gotta go all out today.

LOL, are you serious? This game’s as meaningless as last night’s. I’d give the regulars maybe one AB to keep tuned up. Chipper, Heyward, and Prado are not going to struggle on Friday because Overbay, Baker, and Hinske can’t hit today.

phil

October 3rd, 2012
9:20 am

You guys do realize we’re doomed, right?

Couldn’t hit a light pole with a tractor trailer rig from a foot away….

But I’m sure we’ll have some really good excuses ready for late night Friday.

usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
9:20 am

LOL, are you serious? This game’s as meaningless as last night’s. I’d give the regulars maybe one AB to keep tuned up. Chipper, Heyward, and Prado are not going to struggle on Friday because Overbay, Baker, and Hinske can’t hit today. – Brian from SC.

Brian, can you quantify that in a probability calculation? LOL.

usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
9:21 am

Morning phil…I see the glass is half-full from where you’re standing again.

MFin04

October 3rd, 2012
9:22 am

“This game’s as meaningless as last night’s.”

No it isn’t. This team’s offense is as cold as ice. I’m expecting the starters to all play 9 innings and light up the scoreboard. Need to get into a good rhythm and have confidence that we can actually score runs, because right now, I’m not sure they can.

phil

October 3rd, 2012
9:23 am

Hanson has been off from day one…

Recall driving off the road? Blaming a blown tire, which is crap if there ever was any?

Maybe he’ll rededicate himself to his career this offseason. He darn well better.

UKUGA

October 3rd, 2012
9:24 am

I think DOB actually knows Friday’s game time, he’s just keeping it a secret to make sure he gets a good parking spot.

Brian from SC

October 3rd, 2012
9:24 am

No it isn’t. This team’s offense is as cold as ice. I’m expecting the starters to all play 9 innings and light up the scoreboard. Need to get into a good rhythm and have confidence that we can actually score runs, because right now, I’m not sure they can.

The Braves offense has been struggling for weeks, and you think having one good game is going to all of a sudden make them a better offensive team?

The Braves will win Friday and throughout the playoffs if they allow very few runs. Tonight’s game is totally meaningless, and will be treated as such by Fredi and the players.

usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
9:24 am

UKUGA,
LOL…good one.

usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
9:25 am

BTW, anyone know if the play-in game is sold out?

MFin04

October 3rd, 2012
9:25 am

“Maybe he’ll rededicate himself to his career this offseason. He darn well better.”

How does one rededicate themselves into 5 more MPHs on their fastball, holding runnings with a 3rd delievery, and not giving up homers on tipped curveballs?

Bat Masterson

October 3rd, 2012
9:26 am

flange1

October 3rd, 2012
9:26 am

phil,

what is Hanson fat too?

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 3rd, 2012
9:26 am

Problem Hanson’s upside is what? A 4 or 5 at this point? Why not try Delgado and Teheran.

This. Are we going to continue with a guy making 3mil who’s upside is a 4 or do we move on to guys with #2 upside making 500k? Seems easy to me.

MFin04

October 3rd, 2012
9:27 am

“anyone know if the play-in game is sold out?”

Honestly, I seriously doubt it. There aren’t 45,000 Braves fans in Atlanta to pack that place and they’ve already had their farewell games with Chipper. As of last night there were still tickets.

Bat Masterson

October 3rd, 2012
9:27 am

Hanson, Hanson

Bat Masterson

October 3rd, 2012
9:27 am

Hanson, Hanson, Hanson

Bat Masterson

October 3rd, 2012
9:28 am

Brian from SC

October 3rd, 2012
9:28 am

If tonight’s game was a “must-win,” Tim Hudson would be starting, not Ben Sheets.

MFin04

October 3rd, 2012
9:28 am

We could have a winter deal/package. We can call it the “Never run on us again” package.

Package includes the trade pieces of: Brian McCann and Tommy Hanson. ;)

Tomahawkin

October 3rd, 2012
9:30 am

@phil

Runners Just Run at Will on Big Red, He just gives them the base at times without even giving them a look back…He is so ready for this season to be over you can see it in his body demeanor when he is on the Hill…

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 3rd, 2012
9:30 am

Oh, and do we stick with the pitcher with an 87mph FB or go to the guys with the 92-94…

Speed isn’t everything, but to have a pitcher that can throw fastballs past a hitter would be nice.

David O'Brien

October 3rd, 2012
9:31 am

In their past 13 games, the Braves have hit .209 with 42 runs, six homers, no double-digit hits games, scored three runs or fewer in nine games, and scored two runs or fewer in six.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 3rd, 2012
9:32 am

I would love to have a chance to steal a base off Tommy Hanson… might make it!

usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
9:33 am

I guess I’ll never understand the local fan base. Seems like throughout the ’90s, Fulton was packed and bursting at the seams every year. I’ve posed this question before, but why not now? Economy? lack of enthusiasm? transportation? all 3 and maybe more reasons?

Murph

October 3rd, 2012
9:33 am

Hanson, Hanson, Hanson
Hinske

Someone ought to wash your mouth out with soap. Please, there are children on the blog! Think of the children.

usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
9:34 am

Those are frightening numbers, DOB. Our starters can’t go out there thinking they’re going to have to throw a perfect game just to have a chance.

MFin04

October 3rd, 2012
9:34 am

“In their past 13 games, the Braves have hit .209 with 42 runs, six homers, no double-digit hits games, scored three runs or fewer in nine games, and scored two runs or fewer in six.”

We’ll turn it all on Friday, no need to try and win the game today. :roll: :cry:

bravofan

October 3rd, 2012
9:35 am

do not ever call ticketmaster and expect someone to answer within a reasonable time period. Just ridiculous.

Doug

October 3rd, 2012
9:35 am

Why does this feel like so many other seasons that end with the Braves going into a collective offensive coma? I have an awful feeling about our one-game “series” with St. Louis. How can we turn that wonderful feeling of last weekend into another winter of total disgust? Hope I’m wrong & we at least get to play a real series against a division winner. Go Braves!

usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
9:36 am

Murph,
here’s a worse one….Dan Kolb

MFin04

October 3rd, 2012
9:36 am

“I would love to have a chance to steal a base off Tommy Hanson… might make it!”

I’d love a chance to hit against him, just sit on the curveball. ;) Or swing at the first 2 pitches in order to get him right where I want him at 0-2 in order for him to groove a pitch to me or walk me without putting me away. He makes everyone look like Martin Prado with 2 strikes.

bravofan

October 3rd, 2012
9:36 am

If I pre-purchase parking for monday’s game will I be refunded if the game does not take place?

Brian from SC

October 3rd, 2012
9:37 am

Of course you try to win, but the incentive to win is not big enough to risk the health of your players. You tell Sheets, Overbay, Baker, and Constanza to go out there and try their hardest to win the game.

MFin04

October 3rd, 2012
9:39 am

“You tell Sheets, Overbay, Baker, and Constanza to go out there and try their hardest to win the game.”

You do realize we are going to have a full lineup today, right?

Bourn
Prado
Heyward
Chipper
Freeman
Uggla
Ross
Simmons

bravofan

October 3rd, 2012
9:40 am

9 minutes later someone with ticketmaster finally answers the phone.

usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
9:42 am

bravofan,
good one. I think they sell refundable parking tickets for a higher price.

usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
9:43 am

bravofan,
…and the guy you’re talking to is probably answering the phone in Pakistan, right?

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 3rd, 2012
9:43 am

So, what are we doing with Hanson this offseason? Not going to be traded for anything of value…. I’ll take a “Salary Relief” type prospect for him, if possible. Non-tender may still be possible. ;)

Lew

October 3rd, 2012
9:43 am

Right – tell them to try their hardest to win the game, but not to get hurt so they won’t have to play the first string who will play in the game that really matters.

usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
9:44 am

TOBF,
what is a “non-tender?” Sorry, I’m not as with it on some of these terms as most are.

unbelievable

October 3rd, 2012
9:44 am

Trout or Cabrera for AL MVP. Id vote Trout

Brian from SC

October 3rd, 2012
9:44 am

You do realize we are going to have a full lineup today, right?

Only for a few innings, to let them get some swings in. But they won’t be focusing on winning so much as seeing pitches and maintaining their timing. When the regulars go out, then you tell the backups to go out there and get that W! :)

Tomahawkin

October 3rd, 2012
9:46 am

MFin04

“anyone know if the play-in game is sold out?”

“Honestly, I seriously doubt it. There aren’t 45,000 Braves fans in Atlanta to pack that place and they’ve already had their farewell games with Chipper. As of last night there were still tickets.”

I’m prolly gonna have to get there at noon to get the Dollar seats or the 20 Dollar Standing room Only, Then Its onto the Chophouse after Tailgating with the “Thanks Bobby” Crew…I though I saw Robert Tailgating with them in the Green Lot?

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 3rd, 2012
9:46 am

JulienB Wayne Jones ‏@bravesfanjulien
@mlbbowman @KevinMcAlpin @tom_hart Does Tommy Hanson have much trade value this winter?

Mark Bowman ‏@mlbbowman
@bravesfanjulien he probably has a little. But you certinaly will not get a significant return for him.

Just a little…. wasn’t expecting a significant return, even if he was healthy. He’s not Shields/Greinke.

Efrim

October 3rd, 2012
9:46 am

While I agree that there is not much to be gained from 1 or 2 at bats today – it’d sure be nice to see one of Chipper, McCann or Heyward take one out. Just be nice to see from a fans perspective who is alarmed at how bad the plate appearances have been from those three over the last month or in Mac’s case, since July 1st of 2011(almost all because of injury).

usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
9:47 am

unbelivable,
Cabrera, ESPECIALLY if he wins the Triple Crown…he helped vault the Tigers over the ChiSox to win the Division.

Murph

October 3rd, 2012
9:47 am

Murph,
here’s a worse one….Dan Kolb

You disgust me, sir. To think that people can come on a family blog and spew such trash… it’s borderline hate crime.

usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
9:49 am

Murph,
Just for that….Charlie Kerf(bleep). Wow, that one was so bad I got bleeped!

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 3rd, 2012
9:49 am

what is a “non-tender?” Sorry, I’m not as with it on some of these terms as most are.

Basically a release. The Braves would not give (tender) Tommy an arbitration offer.

Matt Chernoff ‏@RealMattlanta
I know the game doesn’t matter today but I’d like to see the #Braves put up 4 or 5 runs with the starters in. It will make me feel better.

Bat Masterson

October 3rd, 2012
9:49 am

Sorry, Murph

I’m really busy this morning, but want to participate, so I’m complaining in minimalistic code.

Efrim

October 3rd, 2012
9:52 am

Freddie Freeman since August 13th when he reached his 2nd half high of OPS, and high since Mid-May(.829): .212/.319/.417 – 45 games, 185 PA’s. 25/45 BB/K ratio.

Murph

October 3rd, 2012
9:52 am

Imagine a world where Jurrjens and Hanson has lived up to their potential and avoided injuries… the Braves’ rotation would have rivaled those famous rotations of the 90’s.

It’s sad. But, that’s baseball I s’pose. Win some, lose some. Amazing that this team has pitched as well as it has without those two… and without Beachy. The other guys in the rotation deserve some real credit for this season, especially September. From the looks of the stats that DOB posted, the pitching is the only thing that kept this team from September Collapse 2.0.

Efrim

October 3rd, 2012
9:52 am

Freddie Freeman since August 13th when he reached his 2nd half high of OPS, and high since Mid-May(.829): .212/.319/.417 – 45 games, 185 PA’s. 25/45 BB/K ratio.

MFin04

October 3rd, 2012
9:52 am

“Just be nice to see from a fans perspective who is alarmed at how bad the plate appearances have been from those three over the last month”

Exactly. Gotta see these guys do something good. I mean a 2-hitter in a must-win game for the division against a terrible pitcher and a terrible team and we lose 2-1, that can’t be a good sign for a play-in game.

As for McCann, I really don’t understand starting him in the playoffs. He has shown little or no value offensively for a while now and defensively he is a liability compared to Ross.

I mean if we are going all Shaun’s theory on AL MVP of hitting/fielding/baserunning then Ross > McCann

Efrim

October 3rd, 2012
9:54 am

Basically a release. The Braves would not give (tender) Tommy an arbitration offer.

Why are you still talking about this? Your obsession with his future is definitely weird, man. Especially the negative tone on near every single post.

Efrim

October 3rd, 2012
9:55 am

I mean a 2-hitter in a must-win game for the division against a terrible pitcher and a terrible team and we lose 2-1, that can’t be a good sign for a play-in game.

Not looking at it that way. Jusat would love to see a home run for one of the middle of the order hitters to bring some confidence to them. Especially Jason.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 3rd, 2012
9:56 am

usnavyvol asked what a non-tender is…. I just explained.

TennesseePaul

October 3rd, 2012
9:57 am

Well, crap. I was hoping for Chipper to get to 550 doubles and 470 HR. Doesn’t look like it will happen unless he gets 3 AB today and just destroys the ball. Oh well.

unbelievable

October 3rd, 2012
9:57 am

Cabrera, ESPECIALLY if he wins the Triple Crown…he helped vault the Tigers over the ChiSox to win the Division

Triple crown is nice and all, but its not a hitting award. Trout has a higher OPS+ (170 to 167) and WAR (10.7 to 6.9). He plays a much more demanding position in CF. Angels also have a better record that Detroit, 89-72 to 87-74.

George_George

October 3rd, 2012
9:57 am

Murph

October 2nd, 2012
4:05 pm
DOB, any idea why the blog forums are running so horribly lately? Did the AJC just upgrade the software or something?
**********************************************
Good morning all
THANK YOU Murph, I was beginning to think I was the only one to notice how bad and slow the blog has been since they took it down for a few hours weeks ago, when it came back up there was talk we would have to register our names, Those AJC teck guys sure messed it up.

Efrim

October 3rd, 2012
9:57 am

I get that Hanson had an ERA of 4.5, but do you really think the Braves are going to release him because 3 million is too much? Not gonna happen. I fully expect teams to ask about acquiring him. I don’t think you get how bad some of the rotations are around this league. And no, no one is asking for great value for Tommy. Just a fair deal of which we aren’t robbing the other teams house.

Tomahawkin

October 3rd, 2012
9:58 am

“Matt Chernoff ‏@RealMattlanta
I know the game doesn’t matter today but I’d like to see the #Braves put up 4 or 5 runs with the starters in. It will make me feel better.”

Co-Sign!

usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
9:58 am

Efrim,
Yeah, that was my fault. Didn’t think I was opening a can of worms with my question.

Murph

October 3rd, 2012
9:59 am

As for McCann, I really don’t understand starting him in the playoffs.

He’s left handed, and being left handed trumps his bum shoulder, his inability to throw out a baserunner, and his total lack of hitting outside of a couple of weeks during the season.

usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
9:59 am

OK, what is WAR (see, I’m learning so much today!)

Frankie

October 3rd, 2012
9:59 am

“No it isn’t. This team’s offense is as cold as ice. I’m expecting the starters to all play 9 innings and light up the scoreboard. Need to get into a good rhythm and have confidence that we can actually score runs, because right now, I’m not sure they can.”

To quote John McEnroe, “you cannot be serious”. This game is meaningless and the hitting is what it is right now. One game is going to factor in result for Friday night. C’mon man.

MFin04

October 3rd, 2012
9:59 am

“Angels also have a better record that Detroit, 89-72 to 87-74.”

Who is going to the playoffs? ;)

Efrim

October 3rd, 2012
10:00 am

Trout has a higher OPS+ (170 to 167)

Isn’t this sort of significant? Haven’t seen this mentioned too much – just seen folks say that Miggy has a SLG 50 points higher.

I’d like to think we’ve gotten to the point where we can understand adjustments for ballpark, right? But I guess some folks are enamored with the Triple Crown…..

I am not. I’d still vote for Trout.

usnavyvolfaninva

October 3rd, 2012
10:02 am

unbelievable,
I’m not completely dismissing your case for Trout, but at the end of the day, Cabrera’s going to play more games than Trout, and I think the powers that be will see that more than the two extra wins the Angels have…..but who knows?

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 3rd, 2012
10:02 am

Kevin McAlpin ‏@KevinMcAlpin
#Braves Game 162 (at PIT): Bourn 8, Prado 7, Heyward 9, Freeman 3, Uggla 4, McCann 2, Francisco 5, Simmons 6, Sheets 1

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 3rd, 2012
10:02 am

Well what’s a fair deal when both DOB and Bowman say that he has little value?

DOB said “I don’t know that you could get anything of value in return.” That’s not me hating on Hanson, others have said it.

Hanson’s only a 1yr acquisition unless he really proves himself next year. Quite a risk for a GM to take, even if they’re trading spare parts for him.

Efrim

October 3rd, 2012
10:02 am

This Matt Chernoff guy would fit really well in the comments section of this blog, I think. Certainly during the game time.

TennesseePaul

October 3rd, 2012
10:03 am

Freddie Freeman since August 20th .238/.346/.485/.831 22/39 BB/K.
He has been smacking them right at people lately. Noticed quite a number of times he’s muscled some hits through the right side of the infield. But I’ve also noticed he’s been pulling almost everything to the right side. Seemed when he was dominating (Jun19-Aug12: .321/.419/.530/.949) he was spraying the ball all over the field.

monty

October 3rd, 2012
10:03 am

Very up and down team offensively. Too bad we’re in a downward trend right now. Pushing across 2 runs lately has been like pulling eye-teeth. Maybe Meds can throw a shutout and they wild pitch a guy in from 3rd after a walk and 2 sacrifice bunts. :) We get no-hit, but we win!

TennesseePaul

October 3rd, 2012
10:04 am

Well, my my… I didn’t realize game 162 was a day game. This should make for a productive day at work.

Efrim

October 3rd, 2012
10:04 am

Braves had six players with 57 walks or more heading into game 162 – Uggla(93), Bourn(69), Freeman(64), Heyward(58), Prado(58), and Chipper Jones(57).

Impressive.

DAP

October 3rd, 2012
10:04 am

“anyone know if the play-in game is sold out?

best tickets available when i was there on sunday were in section 431. thats one of the last sections they fill up. so yeah, i think its basically a sell out. there are tickets on stub hub if you want some.

Tomahawkin

October 3rd, 2012
10:06 am

I’m no Expert on here but Big Red is Hurt.

Thats the only explanation on the decline in his fastball velocity over the last 3 seasons (92-93 in 2010 to 87-89 present) …and with that much torque in his arm on his shortarm release, he’s due for structural damage…Its the only probable cause other than the Bora$..shole effect starting prior to the 2011 season

monty

October 3rd, 2012
10:06 am

Martin’s been swing under everything lately with that slice-swing. Wish he’d get on top of it and pull a few to left.

Efrim

October 3rd, 2012
10:06 am

But I’ve also noticed he’s been pulling almost everything to the right side.

Him and Heyward. Near everything it seems.

Frankie

October 3rd, 2012
10:08 am

Uggs and Mac back to back. That has been dynamite strategy all year round. yeesh.

MFin04

October 3rd, 2012
10:08 am

“Braves had six players with 57 walks or more heading into game 162″

Now show us the strikeouts. ;) Lol. Or show us the strikeouts with men on base when putting the ball in play meant a run.

Gosh I hope this offense really catches fire today. I can’t stop imagining bad things for Friday.

monty

October 3rd, 2012
10:08 am

Efrim

October 3rd, 2012
10:08 am

Hanson’s only a 1yr acquisition unless he really proves himself next year. Quite a risk for a GM to take, even if they’re trading spare parts for him.

I’m not asking for Wil Myers back from Hanson. I think he could be included in a package for a hitter, or even a RH reliever – which I happen to think we really need next year. Someone not in the Linebrink/Durbin mold. Closer to Saito.

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