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RC
October 2nd, 2012
11:23 am
Realistically, what would it take to get a guy like Headley? And do the Braves even have the chips to land a guy like him?
Teheran, Delgado, and Ahmed? I’m not saying the Braves should pay that price, but is that what it would take?
Probably. I think SD would prefer position players to pitchers, but if you are throwing guys like that into a deal it’s probably possible to get some 3rd team involved to take one of the pitchers for a position prospect.
Arkansas Transplant
October 2nd, 2012
11:23 am
One thing about acquiring Headley, the price won’t equal the value.
phil
October 2nd, 2012
11:25 am
Thanks, Jimmy…
Now go to, well, you know.
RC
October 2nd, 2012
11:25 am
Realistically, what would it take to get a guy like Headley? And do the Braves even have the chips to land a guy like him?
Another alternative, assuming we have the money to pay him, would be to try and trade for David Wright. You’d have to accept that Delgado and/or Teheran will be pitching against you for years, but he’s a pretty nice fit for the current Braves team. Probably too expensive in both trade and $$ though.
David O'Brien
October 2nd, 2012
11:28 am
Lohse has 9.00 ERA in 1 start vs. Braves this season (5 ER, 9 H in 5 IP), and a 2.71 ERA in 32 starts vs. everyone else.
Efrim
October 2nd, 2012
11:28 am
Also from Buster:
Among all teams, I think the Atlanta Braves have the most to lose with the new wild-card format. They’ve had an excellent season and have posted one of the best records in the sport. But Washington won the NL East, which means that Atlanta’s postseason might last just one game.
I couldn’t agree more with Buster. A lot to lose for the Braves, who have seen one playoff series to date since 2005 and have been a very good baseball team since the start of the 2009 season.
haggard
October 2nd, 2012
11:28 am
Lew
I. too, am reluctant for the same reasons as you,(youth, past success) and I wish I could point to the one thing that says, “No, keep him. Things will be different”. But, unless there’s something resembling a major makeover in his mechanics during the off season,(and that’s probably not happening), we’re probably looking at same old, same old in the future. Yet, I’m reluctant. After all, his likeness hangs on my wall as a Wurlitzer!
Jeff R
October 2nd, 2012
11:30 am
Was it Towers who screwed around with the Braves when Wren was trying to acquire Jake Peavy?
DAP
October 2nd, 2012
11:30 am
efrim Ya know, front office execs and scouts don’t consider it arbitrary and a big “who cares how we slot folks in the rotation”. Just not the way it’s done.
but its a huge difference between being #4 in rotation and being #5? c’mon. were not talking the difference between a #1 and a #5. it wont hurt anyone for minor to pitch in the 5th slot, if a top pitcher is aquired.
efrim But let’s go get Shin Soo Choo because he’s so much better vs. LHP and their are only 38% LH in the sport!
phil
October 2nd, 2012
11:32 am
Clearly Buster is a hater for daring to voice that we could well lose this game on Friday….
Not that the Cards are red hot offensively or anything like that.
Not that other teams we’ve faced this year that were hot haven’t owned us.
We’ll be fine regardless!
Jimmy
October 2nd, 2012
11:32 am
phil – I was hoping for one of your “Now, Bug off!”
Instead, you just told me to go to work…which is where I am.
haggard
October 2nd, 2012
11:34 am
Efrim @ 11:12
A strong argument indeed.
ncscoots
October 2nd, 2012
11:34 am
Among all teams, I think the Atlanta Braves have the most to lose with the new wild-card format.
Don’t finish second, then.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 2nd, 2012
11:36 am
Lohse hasn’t been all that great in Sept… 6 starts 37IP, 36 Hits, 6 BB, 36 K, 5 HR… 3.89 ERA. Team went 3-3 in his starts.
Opponents hit .243/.273/.412/.685 off of him that month. He threw 69% strikes, so be prepared to swing!
TennesseePaul
October 2nd, 2012
11:38 am
I couldn’t agree more with Buster.
There is a nice section in my local grocery store which offers all sorts of cheese to go with that whine.
Efrim
October 2nd, 2012
11:39 am
While it’s easy to say “We should get something for him before he gets to expensive”, I’m sure the teams that he would be traded too are well aware of his performance and contract situation, so there’s not necessarily any excess value to be obtained there. The only two ways I know of to get excess value for a player are 1) you know something about the player that the team you are trading them to don’t know (which means we fans wouldn’t know either), or 2) you have an excess of something to the point that you won’t be able to put that value on the field, and can trade some of it for value in an area you are lacking (this could be the case with Hanson or any other pitcher…if we think we’ve got enough pitching without him, let’s upgrade somewhere else).
We have an excess of starting pitching options for the back of the rotation. Absolutely. We also know Hanson is climbing in salary and his stuff/results were down. Of course the team acquiring him will understand this and provide value which is equal to what they are getting(hopefully). But this is not the time to slot Hanson in the #5 spot “just cause”. I think it makes a great deal more sense to trade him this winter. Should be near a slam dunk, imo.
DAP
October 2nd, 2012
11:39 am
efrim Ya know, front office execs and scouts don’t consider it arbitrary and a big “who cares how we slot folks in the rotation”. Just not the way it’s done.
but its a huge difference between being #4 in rotation and being #5? c’mon. were not talking the difference between a #1 and a #5. it wont hurt anyone for minor to pitch in the 5th slot, if a top pitcher is aquired.
efrim But let’s go get Shin Soo Choo because he’s so much better vs. LHP and their are only 38% LH in the sport!
DAP
October 2nd, 2012
11:40 am
whoops, sorry bout that
TennesseePaul
October 2nd, 2012
11:40 am
Don’t finish second, then.
I think this whole thing was sprung on them just yesterday otherwise they would have.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 2nd, 2012
11:41 am
But take out his 1st start (which was a disaster) he has a 3.16 ERA .225/.262/.367/.629
Last 3 outings… Sep 18, 7 IP, 0 ER… Sep 23, 6 IP, 3 ER….Sep 29 6 IP, 4 ER
TennesseePaul
October 2nd, 2012
11:44 am
so there’s not necessarily any excess value to be obtained there
Ah, the trouble with going to the bargaining table with the goal of “winning the trade”, implying screwing over those you do business with. No, I don’t think the Braves will be able to screw over anyone in a deal with Hanson. But I’d imagine they could reach a fair deal which would work out well for both parties.
Efrim
October 2nd, 2012
11:44 am
There is a nice section in my local grocery store which offers all sorts of cheese to go with that whine.
Don’t finish second, then.
Get off of it, you two. I’m not even agreeing with Buster about the formatting issues, moreso agreeing with him that the Braves – who collapsed in 2011, and have won an average of 90 games over the course of 4 regular seasons are possibly faced with not seeing a playoff series…..again. Hence, lots to lose.
Cardinals? I think they can deal with not winning a 3rd title over the course of seven seasons.
Orioles? Shouldn’t even be here. Enjoy it.
A’s? Ditto.
Yankees and Rangers haven’t clinched, but as of right now, they are in line for a bye – so that’s my reasoning there, but it would be horrific for either if they lost that one gamer.
Jeff R
October 2nd, 2012
11:45 am
Lohse hasn’t been all that great in Sept… 6 starts 37IP, 36 Hits, 6 BB, 36 K, 5 HR… 3.89 ERA. Team went 3-3 in his starts.
Thing that concerns me more than who the Cards throw at the Braves is that this is largely a group of post-season tested guys. They’ve been through the fire.
MFin04
October 2nd, 2012
11:47 am
“Among all teams, I think the Atlanta Braves have the most to lose with the new wild-card format.”
No they don’t. Stupid comment. Whoever loses the two wild card games has the most to lose. I mean the Braves pretty much have “recovered” from the collapse in the eyes of management, front office, and Chipper Jones, so at this point they have nothing to lose and at best a World Series to gain.
ncscoots
October 2nd, 2012
11:47 am
Get off of it, you two.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, LOL. I don’t know that TennPaul and I were aiming at the same target, though.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 2nd, 2012
11:47 am
No, I don’t think the Braves will be able to screw over anyone in a deal with Hanson.
They already would be…
UKUGA
October 2nd, 2012
11:48 am
DOB,
Can you please increase the frequency of your Fridy game time updates to once every 15 minutes (both here and on Twitter)?
thanks,
UKUGA
Veer
October 2nd, 2012
11:51 am
Key to post season scoring will be our ability to draw walks. Heyward and Uggla need to be patient and get on base. Same with Chipper. Being aggressive might cost us. Key is to get on base and bunt the runner over and hope someone drives them in.
Mac is the X factor. He seems to have lost it this year. He is supposed to be getting in his prime but he looks like a 38 yr old catcher who is at the back end of his career.
Efrim
October 2nd, 2012
11:53 am
I don’t know that TennPaul and I were aiming at the same target, though.
I know. And honestly, I’m being sort of a jerk about the 360-288 over the last 4 years and only one playoff series.
But I find that astounding and would love to know if any team has posted that record over a four year period and seen only one playoff series appearance during the Wild Card era. It could be an incredibly frustrating October for Braves fans, players and the organization if they don’t win that game on Friday. Let’s just win it, baby!
CB
October 2nd, 2012
11:53 am
Happy birthday,phil! I thought Murph’s baby picture was appropriate but it should have had an empty glass beside of you.
MFin04
October 2nd, 2012
11:54 am
Key to the playoffs is scoring runs PERIOD
Veer
October 2nd, 2012
11:55 am
What I would like to see in today’s game is bench players playing for their roster spots in the NLDS should we make it that far. Obviously for the one game wildcard playoff rosters will be different but for NLDS who do you carry Hinske or Overbay? Pasternicky or Baker? You have to assume Ross, Johnson, Fransisco, and Constanza are 4 lock in’s.
Pitching wise I am not sold on Chiristan Martinez. Moylan looked good yesterday.
Tomahawkin
October 2nd, 2012
11:55 am
@Veer
“Mac is the X factor. He seems to have lost it this year. ”
And he still has almost 70 Ribeyes, just Imagine if he hits .280????
Arkansas Transplant
October 2nd, 2012
11:56 am
The measurement of this team will be determined by the outcome of this game Friday night. Plain and simple. You don’t put a team together for the sole purpose to only say, “Hey we got close, but oh well.”
Efrim
October 2nd, 2012
11:56 am
Ah, the trouble with going to the bargaining table with the goal of “winning the trade”, implying screwing over those you do business with. No, I don’t think the Braves will be able to screw over anyone in a deal with Hanson. But I’d imagine they could reach a fair deal which would work out well for both parties.
Exactly. Why do we have to destroy a team in a trade. Properly value the player who plays a role that some others can and get a fair return. Folks are used to Mike Dunn and Omar Infante for Dan Uggla.
On a side note, we haven’t had too many Tyler Flowers, Brent Lillibridge, Jon Gilmore, Santos Rodriguez for Big Game Javy trades in a while(supposed pay dearly in prospects for big leaguer trade for Braves) – so fans better get ready for that this offseason.
Heck, I better get ready for it.
Arkansas Transplant
October 2nd, 2012
11:58 am
Key to the playoffs is scoring runs PERIOD
Actually the goal is to score at least one run more than your opponent, whether that 1-0 or 10-11.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 2nd, 2012
11:59 am
Pitching wise I am not sold on Chiristan Martinez. Moylan looked good yesterday.
Moylan just got back… I pick Gearrin. Struggles against lefties, but he can get ground balls.
MFin04
October 2nd, 2012
11:59 am
If McCann can’t produce in these next two games he shouldn’t be starting in any playoff game and should be used in emergencies only.
MFin04
October 2nd, 2012
12:02 pm
“1-0 or 10-11.”
Lol. That’s a funny slip-up. We can win 1-0 games, but as you said, probably gonna lose the 10-11 game.
This team isn’t gonna be able to score a ton of runs. Just aren’t consistent enough to do so. The pitching should be there, like it was last night, but if we can only muster 2 hits, better hope we have some walks and homers.
Sad thing is one hit last night blows the game wide open. Just haven’t been getting that one hit and I’m not sure we have the guys that CAN get that one hit.
phil
October 2nd, 2012
12:03 pm
thx, CB….i hate losing though! picture works…
George_George
October 2nd, 2012
12:04 pm
Good morning all
Sad night we just could not push across runs, all season long we wasted good pitching. BUT WAIT the season as a whole was pretty good we stayed in contention down to last three days of season. It was great and sad at the same time to watch CHIPPERS last season. Good to watch MEDLEN and MINOR develop and JASON improve, also FREDDY. Now two days of ST LINEUPS a loss Friday and we can relax and look for even better things next year, with our pitching it could happen.
abeeeewright
October 2nd, 2012
12:04 pm
“Lining up Gio just for us…not good news.”
This is the reason the Braves needed to bring it last night. They’d have forced Gio to start and compete in one more game. Now, Nats can line him up for the post-season.
Patrick
October 2nd, 2012
12:05 pm
DOB, did Chipper pass Alomar on the all time hits list?
Or is he still tied with him?
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 2nd, 2012
12:05 pm
Regarding W.A.R……
Jayson Stark
It’s not perfect, but it’s far from subjective. I swapped several emails with Sean Forman of baseball-reference.com this week. And the formula for WAR is exhaustive. It really is a serious attempt to measure everything that goes on in every game. So I don’t see it as a magic formula. But it’s extremely revealing. And anyone who doesn’t see that is way too close-minded about modern metrics.
Jason (Nashville, TN)
If your Cy Young ballot had 10 instead of 5 spots, would Medlen have made it? I realize he only pitched 130 innings, but his dominance over that period rivals Kimbrel.
Jayson Stark (12:04 PM)
Absolutely. When I wrote my Cy Young column last week, I mentioned how intriguing a candidate he is. If I’m going to consider Kimbrel based on limited innings, how could I not consider Medlen, too. But no way he could fit in the top five.
Veer
October 2nd, 2012
12:06 pm
I would like Mac to get some at bats next 2 games to get his bat going without having to catch so It would be a good idea to start him at 1B and Ross at Catcher and then you can have Hinske or Overbay come in later.
Bourn needs to get some at bats after the layoff
Mac and Ross needs at bats
Prado Jones Heyward Freeman all need time off
Simmons needs to get his bat going as well
MFin04
October 2nd, 2012
12:06 pm
Gio ain’t nothing. We KILL lefties! Plus we have the Cy Young winner which we may not use in the playoffs.
DS1
October 2nd, 2012
12:08 pm
So it looks like it will be Gio against Hudson on Sunday (going to assume that Little Man Meds gets the job done on Friday)
Don’t wanna hear any of them negative waves around here………..
Bo Graves!!
Jeff R
October 2nd, 2012
12:09 pm
Key to the playoffs is scoring runs PERIOD
The key to a Braves’ win Friday and thereafter is scoring one more run than their opponents.
MFin04
October 2nd, 2012
12:09 pm
Brian McCann should be treated as the backup catcher the next two games and should get some at bats in. No doubt. The guy has not proven anything that he should start in a 1-game playoff.
DS1
October 2nd, 2012
12:10 pm
Veer
Don’t think you’ll see Mac playing any first base, though stranger things have happened. But you are not correct on Simmons. The guy has been hitting the ball with authority the past week.
Tomahawkin
October 2nd, 2012
12:11 pm
@Jeff R
“The key to a Braves’ win Friday and thereafter is scoring one more run than their opponents.”
Co-Sign!
And Like The Man Said “By Any Means Necessary!!!”
Tomahawkin
October 2nd, 2012
12:13 pm
Oh Well, Time for Buck and Kincade
That Philly Homer Kincade isfull of it! Masquerading as a Braves Fan since his Phillies Bit the Dust
DS1
October 2nd, 2012
12:13 pm
I’m thinking that if Medlen pitches a shut out and hits a homer, we’ll be OK.
Jay Dubu
October 2nd, 2012
12:13 pm
How is it that the Braves can only muster 2 hits and 1 run against Locke in 6 innings, while the Mets beat him up to the toon of 9 hits, and 5 runs in 3.2 innings?
Kat
October 2nd, 2012
12:13 pm
After driving 220mi and having another 280 I I get to see at least one.starter. Boring drive.
Brian from SC
October 2nd, 2012
12:15 pm
Maybe someone has posted this, but Jayson Stark’s top two choices for AL LVP (least valuable player) this year are Yunel Escobar and Jeff Francoeur. LOL
MFin04
October 2nd, 2012
12:15 pm
Braves should be giving away tickets to the Friday game after last season. Pack that place. 80,000 to 100,000 people. Oh and make it bark in the park too. 100k people, 25k dogs.
Venice Jim
October 2nd, 2012
12:15 pm
Some advance word on the lineup:
Kris Medlen @KrisMedlen54
@mlbbowman I’m playing 3rd tonight. We need to keep a switch hitter in the lineup.
MFin04
October 2nd, 2012
12:17 pm
“Medlen pitches a shut out and hits a homer, we’ll be OK.”
More likely a triple and scores on a wild pitch or error.
DS1
October 2nd, 2012
12:17 pm
Kat
I’m hoping Fredi doesn’t go all ape shyt on resting the team in the next two days. We need these guys in playing form, not sitting form.
Give the catchers a day off each and Chipper gets today off. Put the rest of the guys in and let them stay sharp. Besides, if we don’t win Friday, they’ll have all winter to rest up.
Bring us some luck up there sister!
Murph
October 2nd, 2012
12:19 pm
Hudson is a big game pitcher. He’ll keep the team in the game.
Just an FYI, Gio is 2-2 vs the Braves this season… gave up 11 runs in 22 innings.
He can and will be beat.
Tomahawkin
October 2nd, 2012
12:19 pm
Jay Dubu
“How is it that the Braves can only muster 2 hits and 1 run against Locke in 6 innings, while the Mets beat him up to the toon of 9 hits, and 5 runs in 3.2 innings?”
Thats Baseball dude…Just like we are just about the only Team to Completely OWN Roy Halliday (Total Slappage) this year…Braves offense just plays to the level of their competition at times
George_George
October 2nd, 2012
12:19 pm
DS1
October 2nd, 2012
12:13 pm
I’m thinking that if Medlen pitches a shut out and hits a homer, we’ll be OK.
********
If the above happens we do win.
abeeeewright
October 2nd, 2012
12:20 pm
I’ve got a new theory on the Braves offense … call it the Cicada theory.
The cicadas start out kind of quiet and disorganized in the spring. As summer goes along, their chirping starts to synchronize. After they mate and start to die out in the late summer and early fall, the chirping gets more random until, by October, quiet reigns.
Shaun
October 2nd, 2012
12:21 pm
-Among all teams, I think the Atlanta Braves have the most to lose with the new wild-card format.
-Don’t finish second, then.
Or just petition MLB to play in a weaker division.
There is a nice section in my local grocery store which offers all sorts of cheese to go with that whine.
No one is saying any team should whine.
We are just saying that regular season success should be rewarded. Getting a play-in-round bye simply because you play in and won a weak division isn’t rewarding regular season success.
There are at least 5 AL teams that could have won the AL Central over the Tigers, had those teams played in that division. Yet, at least two of those 5 teams that qualified for the playoffs and who out-played the Tigers get a lower seed than the team they out-played.
No one is saying those teams should whine about it. We are saying the game is better when the best teams have the best shot to win the championship. If you give the best teams the greatest edge in the postseason and they still don’t win, so be it. We do want some degree of randomness. But at least give the best teams the best shots so that trying in the regular season actually means more than it does now.
The Tigers have no incentive to win more than 87 games. But the A’s, Rangers, Yankees and Orioles have an incentive to try to win 94-95 games. Yet, winning 94-95 games will get those teams no more of an advantage. And at least a couple of those teams that are trying their darndest to win 94-95 games will be at more of a disadvantage than the 87-win Tigers. Sounds like a great system to me!
abeeeewright
October 2nd, 2012
12:21 pm
Rangers/Yankees in the one-gamer. That would be soooooooooo funny.
George_George
October 2nd, 2012
12:21 pm
Venice Jim
October 2nd, 2012
12:15 pm
Some advance word on the lineup:
Kris Medlen @KrisMedlen54
@mlbbowman I’m playing 3rd tonight. We need to keep a switch hitter in the lineup.
*********
Got to love that MEDLEN kid.
DS1
October 2nd, 2012
12:21 pm
I’d love to see Juan Fran get a start tonight. He could be a big bat off the bench in the playoffs. Just needs to get pumped up by Fredi and the staff.
abeeeewright
October 2nd, 2012
12:23 pm
I’m pretty sure, everyone on the A squad is already back in Atlanta. There are enough call ups to get in a couple of games.
Hanson better throw a shut-out and hit a home run.
Venice Jim
October 2nd, 2012
12:25 pm
I think Mitchell is writing for the LA Times under the name Mike DiGiovanna:
It was a common refrain — a mantra, really — in April and early May, when Albert Pujols couldn’t hit, the offense couldn’t score and the bullpen blew six of its first seven save opportunities.
“It’s not how you start,” the Angels kept saying, “it’s how you finish.”
Well, sometimes it is how you start.
The Angels beat the Seattle Mariners, 8-4, in Safeco Field on Monday night to improve to 27-11 since Aug. 21, the best record in baseball in that span. But they were 18-25 in the first seven weeks of the season, and because of that awful start, they’re now finished.
abeeeewright
October 2nd, 2012
12:26 pm
Not that anyone cares about Pythagorean W/L, but look at where the Reds/Cardinals would be if they played to their expected W/L.
Braves should hope for Reds to win the best record. Win the one-gamer against the better team (Cards) and then get a weaker opponent, at home, for the NLDS.
tony austin
October 2nd, 2012
12:26 pm
Braves offense just plays to the level of their competition at times – Tomahawkin
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Shaun
October 2nd, 2012
12:27 pm
“[WAR] really is a serious attempt to measure everything that goes on in every game.”–Jayson Stark
That is a great, succinct way to put it. It throws everything right back at those folks who think WAR is some sort of grand, nefarious conspiracy against traditionalists or traditionalism or whatever the paranoid baseball truthers and flat-earthers think.
George_George
October 2nd, 2012
12:29 pm
This Friday game is SO UNFAIR. The BRAVES have won the WC and should continue on.
ncscoots
October 2nd, 2012
12:29 pm
Not that anyone cares about Pythagorean W/L, but look at where the Reds/Cardinals would be if they played to their expected W/L.
Ah, but what about their third-order wins?
I think there’s a trophy somewhere for most third-order wins. I could be wrong, though.
jeffrey d
October 2nd, 2012
12:30 pm
Mitchell would’ve found a way to include Bobby Cox into that Angels article
abeeeewright
October 2nd, 2012
12:30 pm
Tonight’s Line up …
1. Constanza … CF
2. Pastornicky … 2B
3. Hinske … 1B
4. Francisco … 3B
5. Johnson … LF
6. Baker … RF
7. Boscan … C
8. Simmons … SS
9. Hanson … SP, RP
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 2nd, 2012
12:30 pm
Eric (San Diego)
Any idea what time WC games would be Friday? I need to know if I’m calling in sick to watch the Braves win!
Jayson Stark (12:29 PM)
Too soon to say. They’re talking about one game in the mid-to-late afternoon and another at night. The AL game is most likely a night game, but it depends on matchups, where the games will be played, whether there’s a tiebreaker game Thursday, etc.
Asking him too… sigh. Prepare for a 4o’clock game though.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 2nd, 2012
12:34 pm
Simmons at SS? Go with Rev… he needs the ABs.
George_George
October 2nd, 2012
12:34 pm
This Friday game is SO UNFAIR. The BRAVES have won the WC and should continue on to the first round.
Brian from SC
October 2nd, 2012
12:34 pm
It is almost possible for everything to be settled today, all but one game tomorrow meaning nothing.
If:
Washington beats Philadelphia
Cincinnati loses to St. Louis
New York beats Boston
Baltimore loses to Tampa Bay
Texas beats Oakland
Then everything would be settled except which team between Baltimore and Oakland gets home field in the AL wild card game.
I doubt it happens.
Shaun
October 2nd, 2012
12:35 pm
Ah, but what about their third-order wins?
I think there’s a trophy somewhere for most third-order wins. I could be wrong, though.
No trophy. It’s just useful information if you are doing your best to determine which teams are the best and worst over the course of a season.
abeeeewright
October 2nd, 2012
12:35 pm
“I think there’s a trophy somewhere for most third-order wins”
Somewhere in “What if …?” land, there’s got to be a list of all the teams that should have won the World Series, but didn’t.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 2nd, 2012
12:35 pm
and Hinske in right… Baker at 2B
Brian from SC
October 2nd, 2012
12:36 pm
Actually, I lied. In the case above, the AL #1 seed would also still be up in the air between New York and Texas.
So no matter what, tomorrow will mean something to some teams.
Win One For The Chipper
October 2nd, 2012
12:37 pm
“This Friday game is SO UNFAIR. The BRAVES have won the WC and should continue on.”
Just need to take care of business and all will be good. Got Meds on the mound. Get him an early lead, hand it over to the bullpen, and let Kimbrel shut the door.
Anything can happen in one game, but the Braves are playing better baseball than the Cards and are at home. I like their chances.
tony austin
October 2nd, 2012
12:37 pm
Chipper only has 2 reg season games left, plus the WC game so far. Since the WC game is such a coin flip, I wonder if Fredi would sit Chipper tonight or not.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
October 2nd, 2012
12:37 pm
MFin04 If McCann can’t produce in these next two games he shouldn’t be starting in any playoff game and should be used in emergencies only.
That;s a little ridiculous…
George_George
October 2nd, 2012
12:38 pm
abeeeewright
October 2nd, 2012
12:30 pm
Tonight’s Line up …
1. Constanza … CF
2. Pastornicky … 2B
3. Hinske … 1B
4. Francisco … 3B
5. Johnson … LF
6. Baker … RF
7. Boscan … C
8. Simmons … SS
9. Hanson … SP, RP
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It would be great if we won the game LOL
abeeeewright
October 2nd, 2012
12:38 pm
“It’s just useful information if you are doing your best to determine which teams are the best and worst over the course of a season.”
‘Cause we know that baseball teams are stationary, ergodic processes.
Brian from SC
October 2nd, 2012
12:39 pm
Got a guess for which playoff team has the worst record over their last 10 games, 20 games, and 30 games?
It’s the Texas Rangers. As good as they’ve been all year, it’s still possible that they go on the road for the wild card playoff game.
abeeeewright
October 2nd, 2012
12:40 pm
“It would be great if we won the game”
10-0 Braves. I’m calling it now.
Shaun
October 2nd, 2012
12:40 pm
If we really want to get at how the Braves played baseball relative to other teams this season, looking at things like Pythagorean record and third-order wins is useful. Those things give us better insight into their underlying performance than just looking on the surface at wins and losses and whether they won a division title or a league pennant or a World Series. Yes, I realize no one gets a trophy for third-order wins or Pythagorean wins. No one is trying to award trophies based on those things. All we are trying to get from those things is information.
abeeeewright
October 2nd, 2012
12:41 pm
“and Hinske in right… Baker at 2B”
Who’s on first?
Ba-dum-bing!
George_George
October 2nd, 2012
12:41 pm
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
October 2nd, 2012
12:37 pm
MFin04 If McCann can’t produce in these next two games he shouldn’t be starting in any playoff game and should be used in emergencies only.
That;s a little ridiculous…
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ncscoots
October 2nd, 2012
12:41 pm
Tonight’s Line up …
Well, phil was right, after all; this bleep is pretty frickin’ meaningless, LOL.
Murph
October 2nd, 2012
12:44 pm
.287/.336/.438/.775
29 SB
8 HR
Angel Pagan, everyone. Angel Pagan.
Shaun
October 2nd, 2012
12:47 pm
‘Cause we know that baseball teams are stationary, ergodic processes.
So because they aren’t, no one should try to gather information about teams’ underlying performances over the course of the season?
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 2nd, 2012
12:48 pm
Who’s on first?
Overbay
ncscoots
October 2nd, 2012
12:48 pm
Angel Pagan, everyone. Angel Pagan.
In other words, a lesser Bourn at the same age and with the same likelihood of diminishing skillset, but it’s OK because they’ll be wasting less money? Like that?