Auto-pilot to the postseason is not the way to go

Whether it’s the winner of next week’s Wild Card game or one of the other division champions, whatever team faces Washington in the division series should be feeling better about their chances of knocking off the Nats, who appear to be on auto pilot lately, playing lackluster “let’s rest the lineup” baseball for the past 2-1/2 weeks after playing like the league’s best team for most of the season.

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Chipper and the great Hank Aaron during Friday's pregame ceremony on Chipper Jones night. The Braves lost 3-1 to snap a five-game winning streak (Curtis Compton/AJC photo)

While the other four projected NL postseason teams – the Braves, Cardinals, Reds and Giants – are all finishing strong, the Nats are 6-8 with a 3.93 ERA and 65 runs scored in their past 14 games, and have allowed five or more six times in that span including six or more runs three times in their past six games.

St. Louis is almost certainly going to face the Braves in Friday’s Wild Card game in Atlanta. And imagine this: the Cardinals are finishing a season strong (again).

– The Cards were 9-2 with a 2.08 ERA and 56 runs in their past 11 games before Saturday, having allowed more than four runs just once in that stretch — when they gave up five in a 5-4, 11-inning road loss against rival Chicago.

– Meanwhile, the Braves were 10-3 with a 2.16 ERA in their past 13 games after having a five-game winning streak snapped in Friday’s 3-1 loss to the Mets. The Braves only scored 51 runs in that 13-game span (3.9 per game), but allowed three or fewer runs in each of their past six games and more than four in only two of their past 13, including once in a 7-5 win at Miami.

– Cincinnati was 11-5 with a 2.90 ERA in its past 16 games before Saturday, despite totaling only 52 runs and eight homers in that stretch, which included nine home games in their bandbox of a ballpark. Pitching, pitching, pitching.

– San Francisco was 13-3 with a robust .309 batting average and 3.15 ERA in its past 16 games, with 87 runs in that stretch. Who’d have thought the Gigantes would hardly miss a beat with Melky Cabrera out of the lineup? And they’ve allowed more than three runs only three times in their past 11 games.

And who would have thought the team with the league’s best overall pitching this season (the Nationals) would have the least impressive pitching and easily the worst record among the playoff contenders in the last few weeks of the season?

Those of you who’ve read this blog for years know how your crusading everyman feels about teams that lock up a playoff berth early and put it in cruise control for the last couple or more weeks of a season, coasting to the playoffs either because they mentally lose an edge or, more often than not, the manager rests too many players on too many days.

It’s a recipe for postseason heartbreak. Seen it happen too many times, those teams that played all season with an edge, that were aggressive night after night and kept the pedal to the floor and built up big division leads, suddenly go into a totally different mindset for two or three weeks figuring they can flip the switch come playoff time and go right back to playing the way they had for most of the season.

Instead, too many of those teams come out flat or out of synch in the division series and find themselves down quickly in a best-of-five series, wondering what went wrong.

Braves fans can recall it happening with Atlanta teams a few times (or more) during their run of 14 division titles, when they’d build a double-digit lead in the division and spend the last couple of weeks lining up the rotation and resting players.

Then they’d see their postseason end a step or two shy of where they thought it would.

Or check with last season’s Phillies, who won 102 games but barely played .500 (16-14) in September. They lost to the Cardinals, who went 18-8 down the stretch to overtake the Braves for the wild card and then went on to win the World Series.

The year before in 2010, the Giants went 19-10 in September, beat the Braves in four one-run games to take the division series, and went on to win the World Series.

In 2009, the Yankees won 20 games in September before rolling to the World Series title. In 2008, the Phillies had a lot better September than last year’s Phillies, going 17-8. Then they plowed through the playoffs and won the World Series.

This is something that first caught my eye when I covered the ’97 Marlins, who won the wild-card, had to fight till the end, and then swept the Giants in the division series and beat the Braves in the NLCS (despite losing one of their top starting pitchers, Alex Fernandez, to a major shoulder injury) on the way to a seven-game World Series win against Cleveland.

When the Marlins won the World Series again as a wild-card team in 2003 – I was covering the Braves by then — they did so after going 18-8 in September.

You want to go into the playoffs being pushed, or just keep your foot on the gas even if you’ve got your division title wrapped up.

That’s why, in my opinion, it’s more important for the Braves to win at least three or four of these last five games than it is to make sure everyone gets rest. Rest the old and the injured, but not the others. They have an off day Thursday before the Wild Card game, and the team just had two off days in a five-day span before this homestand.

I know it’s September and players are beat up and tired. But from everything I’ve seen over the years, it’s important not to coast into the postseason. Especially when that postseason includes a new wrinkle for some including this year’s Braves: a one-game, do-or-die play-in game otherwise known as the Wild Card game.

You can’t expect to coast and rest, then flick the switch or hope that Kris Medlen pitches another shutout in that game. Not that this team looks like it’s putting it in shut-down mode for the next week. But just in case anyone out there thanks that’s the way to go, I beg to differ.

And so might last year’s Phillies.

• Medlen on Sunday: Every Kris Medlen start is highly anticipated now, not just in Braves Country but across the country. The right-hander makes his last start of the regular season on Sunday in the Braves’ and Chipper’s last regular-season home game.

The Braves will go for their record 23rd consecutive win in Kris Medlen starts when he pitches Sunday's regular-season home finale.

The Braves will go for their record 23rd consecutive win in Kris Medlen starts when he pitches Sunday's regular-season home finale.

You know most of the stats, but here are a few facts I found that you might not know about Kristopher Allen Medlen, who was raised in Norwalk, Calif., an L.A. suburb that is, as Medlen found out after Eric O’Flaherty told him he was from Compton in South-Central L.A., about nine miles from Compton.

He was raised in a working-class family. His dad, Ray, has been a long-haul truck driver for 30 years, and his mom was a cake decorator at Albertson’s. His parents now live in Texas, and both still have those occupations.

He attended Gahr High School one town over in Cerritos, where the most famous alums was former Seattle Seahawks quarterback Jim Zorn, class of ’71. “He went to Gahr?” Medlen said.

Yes, he did.

There was also Bret Barberie, who a big-league infielder with four teams in six seasons through 1996, who graduated from Gahr a few months before Medlen was born.

“I knew that,” Medlen said. “Jillian Barberie’s ex-husband. He played with the Expos…. And Shane Mack went to Gahr.”

Mack, class of ’81, was an outfielder for parts of nine seasons in the majors through ’98.

For those interested, Medlen has long known diversity: The student population at Gahr is 70 percent Asian and Hispanic, and 10 percent white.

He was area player of the year as a shortstop and pitcher in high school.

“Played a year [at El Camino Junior College], played second base,” he said. “Should’ve played shortstop. They had, like, their area player of the year [at shortstop]. I was my area player of the year, and they loved that guy… So I played second base. Thought I was going to sign cause I got drafted out of high school as a shortstop by the Devil Rays. I was a draft-and-follow. They [El Camino] put me at second. I didn’t sign.

“I was academically ineligible my second year, believe it or not [sarcasm]. I went to juco three years.

“Red-shirted, transferred to Santa Ana, played short[stop] there. First-team All-State shortstop.”

Here the comedic Medlen goes into his I’m-bad deep voice while demonstrated his swing (he’s a switch-hitter, which many of you already knew).

“Then I signed with Cal State Fullerton. I would’ve played short and closed there. So that’s my life story in about 30 seconds.”

He would’ve played short and closed at Fullerton, had he not been drafted and signed by the Braves.

By the way, the 5-foot-11 Medlen will turn 27 on Oct. 7.

And the stats: Medlen is 8-0 with a 1.04 ERA and .196 opponents’ average in 11 starts since moving from the bullpen, with 80 strikeouts and just nine walks in 77-2/3 innings.

After going 0-2 with a 9.72 ERA in two starts in his first two major league games in May 2009, Medlen has gone 14-0 with a 2.57 ERA in 27 starts since, with 156 strikeouts and 29 walks in 171-2/3 innings.

The Braves have won each of his past 22 starts, tying the live-ball era major league record held by Whitey Ford and Carl Hubbell.

“Don’t … belong …” Medlen said modestly, referring to his place alongside those legends.

On Sunday, the truck driver’s son from Artesia could break that mark. Imagine that.

• Now, baseball: After going 0-for-4 with four groundouts in Friday’s 3-1 loss on Chipper Jones tribute night, the Battle Axe himself said he’d been too emotionally charged and nervous and that it affected his performance. All those scoreboard video tributes that played between innings, after the 30-minute on-field ceremony before the first pitch … it was a bit too much for him, in terms of trying to play a game, too.

“There’s no real way to prepare for that,” he said. “It’s so overwhelming and the support and the love in the ballpark tonight was just something that it’s hard to prepare yourself for… I appreciate everything that was said and done and the innings and the games they’re whittling away and it’s starting to sink in so. I try to play this game on an even-keel but the emotion got the best of me….

“I was talking to [starting pitcher Tim Hudson] before the game. I said, ‘I’m an emotional wreck.’ I said, ‘Keep the ball away from me the first couple innings until I can settle down.’ The first pitch of the game is hit right to me so we got a good chuckle out of that. I can’t believe I got the throw over. I think that was probably the most nervous I’ve been on a baseball field in a long time.”

Seated next to Chipper during pregame ceremony Friday were Braves icons Bobby Cox and Hank Aaron. (Curtis Compton photo/AJC)

Seated next to Chipper during pregame ceremony Friday were Braves icons Bobby Cox and Hank Aaron. (Curtis Compton photo/AJC)

He was able to smile about it, but you could tell that Chipper was absolutely spent after Friday’s game. He was drained in every respect.

“I try to stay as even-keeled as possible all the time. That’s how I play the game the best. And tonight I was just too overwhelmed and too emotional to be able to go out there and play effectively. Every pitch that they threw up there I wanted to hit 10 rows deep and you can’t do that and hopefully it’ll settle down in the next couple days and I’ll be able to do my job a little better.”

He was glad the tribute night was a week before the Braves are set to play in the Wild Card game, because he wants to get back to just playing ball now, or as much as he can given all the demands on his time as he winds down his career.

“I’ve been pointing to this day and nervous about this day and with all the friends and family in town coming here to watch, it’s been …I just want to concentrate on baseball,” he said. “It’s been all the attention needs to take a backseat so we can focus on the job at hand. I’m certainly, I was telling some friends, I’ll be glad when [Friday] is over, so I can start concentrating on doing my job a little better.”

Whether he’s been distracted or just mentally drained, it’s shown lately. Chipper went 3-for-9 with three homers and four RBIs in back-to-back games Aug. 16-17 vs. the Padres and Dodgers, and in 31 games since then he hit .225 (23-for-102) with one homer, eight RBIs and a .294 slugging percentage, albeit with 20 walks and a .350 OBP.

In his past 19 games before Saturday, he was 13-for-59 (.220) with two doubles, no homers, four RBIs and a .254 slugging percentage.

• OK, let’s post this. We’ll close with another all-timer from the great Neil Young, which you can hear by clicking here. You know, since Medlen has come on this season a bit like, well, like a hurricane.

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“LIKE A HURRICANE” by Neil Young & Crazy Horse

Once I thought I saw you
in a crowded hazy bar,
Dancing on the light
from star to star.
Far across the moonbeam
I know that’s who you are,
I saw your brown eyes
turning once to fire.

You are like a hurricane
There’s calm in your eye.
And I’m gettin’ blown away
To somewhere safer
where the feeling stays.
I want to love you but
I’m getting blown away.

I am just a dreamer,
but you are just a dream,
You could have been
anyone to me.
Before that moment
you touched my lips
That perfect feeling
when time just slips
Away between us
on our foggy trip.

You are like a hurricane
There’s calm in your eye.
And I’m gettin’ blown away
To somewhere safer
where the feeling stays.
I want to love you but
I’m getting blown away.

You are just a dreamer,
and I am just a dream.
You could have been
anyone to me.
Before that moment
you touched my lips
That perfect feeling
when time just slips
Away between us
on our foggy trip.

You are like a hurricane
There’s calm in your eye.
And I’m gettin’ blown away
To somewhere safer
where the feeling stays.
I want to love you but
I’m getting blown away.

– David O’Brien, Braves/MIB blog

1,373 comments Add your comment

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
7:10 pm

You are correct, nolie. FSU struggling early too. Last pointyball post:

John Kincade ‏@JohnKincade
UT scored 47 on Akron and 51 on Georgia State. 44 on Georgia makes little sense.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
7:12 pm

Thank you for the blog, DOB. Go Braves! Calling a win, 5-3. Minor goes 6, 1 ER.

George_George

September 29th, 2012
7:13 pm

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
7:07 pm
This game will not help DAWGS in poll.

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
7:13 pm

Put this game away Dogs — they gave us a coronary but they still should put up a W.

Frustrating game — thanks mostly to the defense. Now we cannot move the ball.

George_George

September 29th, 2012
7:14 pm

Thanks for new blog DOB.

usnavyvolfaninva

September 29th, 2012
7:14 pm

Wish I could be there. #10 one of my all time favorite Braves.

BFChris28

September 29th, 2012
7:14 pm

Thanks for new blog :)

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
7:14 pm

Minor did a great job there… mac wasn’t getting there due to his knee issues

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
7:14 pm

I agree George George — we might drop a little this week.

And Wooten drops one the BUMB. He should get a dunce cap on his helmet. He deserves to be Booed and TN is going to tie it.

usnavyvolfaninva

September 29th, 2012
7:15 pm

I think the Braves learned their lesson from last season. They’ve focused on every game down the stretch, and have been rewarded with a post-season berth. Play-in won’t be a gimme.

George_George

September 29th, 2012
7:15 pm

Still 4:08 to go.

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
7:17 pm

Another TN 1st down — this game is nerve wracking.

I really think TN is going to tie — we have no wil to stop them.

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
7:17 pm

From the people thnx D O’B

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
7:17 pm

Dogs did get a break but need two stops.

cricket

September 29th, 2012
7:18 pm

no one suggested to trade Meds before play-in game yet? come on people, his value can’t be higher than now.. ;)

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
7:18 pm

I hate Patterson — cannot stnad the guy.

George_George

September 29th, 2012
7:19 pm

U nbelievable where is DAWG DEFENCE?

usnavyvolfaninva

September 29th, 2012
7:20 pm

mm….false start…really?

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
7:20 pm

What a gutless unprepared defense that GA has — Grantham needs to be fired on the spot.

Kat

September 29th, 2012
7:21 pm

Prado, what can’t he do….

George_George

September 29th, 2012
7:21 pm

OK, that might do it.

usnavyvolfaninva

September 29th, 2012
7:21 pm

Disgusted…it’s okay, Tyler Bray came through for you.

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
7:21 pm

There ya go disgusterd the flyin fickle finger of fate strikes again

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
7:21 pm

UGA D gets a stop… great!

DS1

September 29th, 2012
7:22 pm

DOB

Any pre-game updates on Bourn? Or is Fredi just being cautious?

Thanks in advance.

George_George

September 29th, 2012
7:23 pm

Now to Baseball. PLEASE WIN BRAVES and see what NATS do.

ChattTownBrian

September 29th, 2012
7:23 pm

Get ‘em in JHey.

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
7:23 pm

Its about time — about time.

Hope we do not throw it away — But have to give TN credit for playing tough and in a ssense they were the better team.

I am not so sure we deserve to win today. Very frustrating game — I do not know if the coaching staff can clean some thngs up.

As bad as the D way Murray did not take em anywhere when they really needed it in the 4th qtr late.

Bittersweet win but I’ll take it. Hey, could be a Tech fan.

Really worried about the D — if it do not get cleaned up we are not running the table. And no Nat Championship again.

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
7:24 pm

How did I not know Kris Medlen went to El Camino??

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
7:25 pm

Marteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen!!!
Jheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey!!!

ChattTownBrian

September 29th, 2012
7:26 pm

CJ should just retire after the game. Seriously, 2 for his last 23 now.

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
7:27 pm

Hey, US Navy and Chip on the road — I like the W but as a Dogs fan, have to be honest and say that there are some things that really need cleaning up.

For the Dogs to get to the BCS champ game they have to run the table, win the SEC and of course the championship game.

And why not have high goals for a program of this stature, talent, recruiting ability and hype. That should be the goal to overcome Bama, LSU, USC, etc.

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
7:28 pm

Chipper needs a rest — he deserves one.

He does not deserve to be Booed.

George_George

September 29th, 2012
7:28 pm

#Braves manager Gonzalez reiterated he plans to have 10 pitchers (3 starters) and 15 position players on roster for WC game.
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Smartest thing he has done all year, FW must have suggested it.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
7:29 pm

I hope Fredi rests Chipper in the Pittsburgh series… maybe only start him in the last game

George_George

September 29th, 2012
7:30 pm

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
7:28 pm
They booed him in THE TED? I still have football on.

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
7:30 pm

Lucas Duda is one of my least favorite players in MLB — I hate him cause of last night.

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
7:31 pm

Well, the Dogs escape — and 5-0 is 5-0 but gotta clean the mess on D up.

I really cannot stand Lucas Duda — hope he hits .165 next yr.

Fredo

September 29th, 2012
7:35 pm

“The Cards were 9-2 with a 2.08 ERA and 56 runs in their past 11 games before Saturday”

which is why for these last two games against the Cards, I’m full out rooting for the Nats (and their early 4-0 lead is nice to see)

Tomahawk Mafia

September 29th, 2012
7:36 pm

Minor looks pretty effective in the early going of tonight’s game.

DS1

September 29th, 2012
7:36 pm

Whatever happened to Jason Bay? Talk about a nose dive.

Kat

September 29th, 2012
7:40 pm

Mets fan I ran into today mentioned be thought Fredi had done a great job managing this year. My response to him was… tell that to Braves fans many of which won’t like Fredi’s managing no matter what he does. I personally think he has done much better job this year especially managing the pen. But I guess for some Braves fans they’ll be no satisfying them. I swear even if we win the WS you’ll see ppl focusing on what they think he could have done better rather than is won a WS. Just a random thought brought on by that convo w/ the Mets fan.

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
7:43 pm

Kat

September 29th, 2012
7:43 pm

Mets announcers say Mac has a ‘weight problem’ so what’s their medical diagnosis of CC or Prince?

DS1

September 29th, 2012
7:43 pm

Kat

I’ve not been a big fan of Fredi, but it’s hard to argue with a .580 season. And I agree he has done a great job of limiting the innings in the pen.

DS1

September 29th, 2012
7:44 pm

Well, at least we cleared the pitchers slot……….

George_George

September 29th, 2012
7:45 pm

FW going to be on TV NEXT INN.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
7:46 pm

Fredi’s done a good job with the ‘pen this year…. can’t really blame him for using his guys so much last year. Those 3 were the most reliable, and Bobby had done the same.

Move The Dart Thrower

September 29th, 2012
7:50 pm

In keeping with the subject of this blog, Chip is using fractured logic. The BRAVES ARE NOT going to catch the Nats. So there is no sense in sounding like its a bad thing that the Nats are taking it to the Cards. The Braves ARE GOING to play the Cards! They need to hope the Nats destroy them and get the Cards questioning their invincibility. I would rather play a Cards team that is playing mediocre ball than a Cards team that is playing outstanding ball.

Give it up. Nats are the NL East champs. Beat the Cards then take it to the Nats.

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
7:52 pm

Why should we give up before the Nats officially clinch?

northbeach Scott

September 29th, 2012
7:53 pm

Morse just hit a grand slam off of Loshe, let’s hope the Braves box his ears on Friday.

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
7:53 pm

I suppose the Cards should have given up last year when we had that big wild card lead…after all, everyone was sure we’d get in

northbeach Scott

September 29th, 2012
7:54 pm

DS1

September 29th, 2012
7:54 pm

I’m kinda hoping that the Cards and the Nats beat each other up. That both teams go cold offensively and that their pitching starts to fall apart.

But I really don’t ask for much……………

If Kimbrel gets 3 more appearances with 1 inning each and no earned runs, he’ll finish with an ERA below 1.00.

George_George

September 29th, 2012
7:55 pm

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
7:52 pm
Why should we give up before the Nats officially clinch?
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AGREED

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
7:56 pm

Also, my favorite story of the day (if anyone missed it- been gone all day)-

Ryan Howard broke his toe when he dropped the pipe he uses in the on deck circle on it. He won’t play again this season

DS1

September 29th, 2012
7:59 pm

Ouch! Ryan Howard has had his share of bad luck.

Move The Dart Thrower

September 29th, 2012
7:59 pm

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
7:52 pm

Why should we give up before the Nats officially clinch?

Because it makes no sense to play your World Series in the last week of September.

Oh and BTW…. Cards not giving up last year had everything to do with clinching the Wild Card… their last chance at getting into the playoffs NOT anything like the Braves this year.

Apples and Oranges.

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
7:59 pm

Teams that currently have a better record than the Braves:

Washington
Cincinnati
San Francisco
Texas

Teams that currently have a WORSE record than the Red Sox:

Minnesota
Cleveland
Miami
Houston
Cubs
Colorado

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
8:03 pm

Actually, the premise is pretty much the same. You ASSUME that because the Nats have a large lead, we have no chance at the division. Last year, everyone ASSUMED that because we had such a large lead, the Cards had no chance. Until the Nats clinch, we have a chance.

Also, how else is the team supposed to play these games?

Move The Dart Thrower

September 29th, 2012
8:03 pm

The more I think about earlier comments, the more I believe it shows how stupid some fans are.

The Braves arent going to catch the Nats! Forget it! Not gonna happen! So what is the best outcome? The best outcome is for the team the Braves ARE gonna play to come into the playoffs on their heels! The Nats beating the Cards is a good thing. People who feel otherwise are still living in the “14 trips to the playoffs but one WS championship is OK! mode.

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
8:04 pm

DS1

September 29th, 2012
8:05 pm

You play them all to win. Until the season is over. Doesn’t mean you don’t rest your old third sacker or your beat up catchers along the way. But you play to win every game.

Brava

September 29th, 2012
8:05 pm

Wow! Simmons.

Move The Dart Thrower

September 29th, 2012
8:05 pm

There is a difference between strategic thinking and being a fan. Lots of fans here.

Half Empty

September 29th, 2012
8:05 pm

there is a reason that they use Johnson as a late inning replacement for Constanza

John in Wichita

September 29th, 2012
8:06 pm

Andrelton freaking Simmons.

Kat

September 29th, 2012
8:06 pm

Simmons and Prado should run for president and VP. What can they do ?

DS1

September 29th, 2012
8:06 pm

Dart thrower. Actually, I give very little thought to what the other teams are doing. If the Braves are taking care of business, I’ll take my chances with them.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
8:06 pm

Simba saved Georgie there…. Constanza had taken a step back and was cooked. Great play!

George_George

September 29th, 2012
8:06 pm

If you use ST type lineups and lose, you get out of the habit of winning. That is not saying after NATS clinch some players should be rested such as CHIPPER.

Couch Tater

September 29th, 2012
8:06 pm

DOB –

Frank Wren was just discussing Chipper’s uncanny ability to know pitchers. Who do you think will be the “go to” player to advise pitchers tendencies, once Chipper retires? I’m guessing, Mac.

Kat

September 29th, 2012
8:07 pm

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
8:07 pm

Typically there are lots of fans on a fan blog. But one can be a fan and still believe there is a chance to win the division when the team ahead has not clinched yet. Most of us are perfectly capable of strategic thinking, we just don’t believe in giving up

Move The Dart Thrower

September 29th, 2012
8:09 pm

DS1
“:
“September 29th, 2012
8:05 pm

You play them all to win. Until the season is over. Doesn’t mean you don’t rest your old third sacker or your beat up catchers along the way. But you play to win every game.”

No you don’t.

If playing the win every game means not setting up your starting rotation for the playoffs, or giving a guy a day off simply because you want him rested, NOT because he’s old.

Where do you people come from?

Half Empty

September 29th, 2012
8:09 pm

Right, there is no giving up in baseball

Tomahawk Mafia

September 29th, 2012
8:12 pm

Yep. Chipper is struggling.

Move The Dart Thrower

September 29th, 2012
8:12 pm

I bet Fredi will be sitting in the dugout thinking, “we’re 5 games back with 5 to play, I’m going to risk everything to make sure we give it all we have to catch the Nats!

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
8:13 pm

Braves should check to see if they’d allow Chipper to be carted out to third base before each inning Sunday in his new toy from Mizuno.

George_George

September 29th, 2012
8:13 pm

September 29th, 2012
8:09 pm
I see your point about starting rotation.

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
8:14 pm

Clearly, Fredi is NOT risking everything to try to catch the Nats. That doesn’t mean he’s not playing to win these games.

I’m done

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
8:14 pm

CAB — I do not want to give up on taking the division though the way I see it is to get the rotation and team prepared to take the WC game and set it up for the long post season run (hope its a long post season run).

What I am looking for right now is seeing the guys playing the game the right way, the pitching staying sharp and hope to see overall improvement in situational hitting — and we are seeing big fundamental improvement in Uggla.

It would be something if Uggs is the man to carry us in post season — the reg season struggles will be forgiven and forgotten. I really hope he is the big man in post season and that Chipper gets his timely hits.

I’d like to see Chipper rest up a bit for now and be healthy and up for post season.

I am looking forward to 10/5. Got to get that venge vs the Cards and to be honest I really want to start the post season beting STL cause of last yr — that revenge would be saatisfying.

DS1

September 29th, 2012
8:15 pm

Dart Thrower

And who really gives a shyt what you think about the rest of us fans? Your darned right you play them to win. Doesn’t mean you can’t and don’t rest guys who are old or beat up. And also doesn’t mean you don’t set your rotation up for the playoffs.

But as cab is so aptly stating, some of us don’t give up until we are mathematically eliminated.

Who are you anyway? I hate folks that keep changing their monikers!

:twisted:

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
8:15 pm

Frank Wren was just discussing Chipper’s uncanny ability to know pitchers. Who do you think will be the “go to” player to advise pitchers tendencies, once Chipper retires? I’m guessing, Mac. — Couch Tater

Won’t be a single guy anymore. Not for immediate future, at least. Maybe someone will grow into that role, but not right away. Several guys on current team good with that kind of stuff, but none like Chipper.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
8:16 pm

Rotation will be fine. Meds was already moved up so that he’ll be starting the playin. Rotation is not an issue. I just wish we had more time to see Baker, Hinske, and Overbay play. As of now, I don’t know if I’d even bring the last 2, but I probably have to… ya know, lefty off the bench.

2 out hit for Uggla, come on Mac, a HR would be nice!

Half Empty

September 29th, 2012
8:16 pm

Dart Thrower = PL?

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
8:17 pm

Whatever happened to Jason Bay? Talk about a nose dive.

DS1 — Since Bay has been a Met its beein injury after injury and at 34, who knows if he can counce back. I think they have one more yr on his $$$$$$$$$ and an option after that.

Very disappointing sign by the NYM. He was a very good player with the Red Sox and Pittsburgh.

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
8:17 pm

Disgusted-

And they did set the rotation they wanted for the playoffs and guys are getting more rest than they probably would be if these games meant more. I’m sure Chipper will get plenty of rest in Pittsburgh, and if this was not his last home weekend, I doubt he’d be playing all 3 games…

(and realistically, no, I don’t think we will catch the Nats, but again, doesn’t mean we CAN’T :) )

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
8:18 pm

Besides, with the way the offense has been lately, we probably have the same chance with the backups as we do with the regulars… Hah!

nolie

September 29th, 2012
8:20 pm

Let’s go Braves, 1-0 in not my kinda game. Go Offense!

DS1

September 29th, 2012
8:20 pm

Half Empty

Could be. That was what I was thinking……..

Good time to turn off the blog and do some multitasking (football/baseball).

Tomahawk Mafia

September 29th, 2012
8:20 pm

The Braves offense needs to get their act together. One run last night and one run tonight.

George_George

September 29th, 2012
8:20 pm

I just hope FREDI does not screw up the Friday game, maybe it would be better if UMPS kicked him out in 1st inn and coaches ran team.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
8:21 pm

I’m sure that the guys will get all the rest they need in Pittsburgh. Chipper may not start any games, though I’d start him in the last one. I’m sure Bourn will start though. Give the other guys time off, esp. Ross and Mac. Both those guys are really beat up.

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
8:22 pm

CAB –

I would like to see Chipper play in a PH role tommorrow, I know in his heart he wants to put it all on the line in his final home series but if he should not be playing tommorrow the fans should understand.

He has given it his all — he owes us nothing.

I prefer the WC to be honest cause I think we owe STL a little something from last yr. If we beat STL, and take it all, I will be over that disappointment. I promise I will not say anything more about that September I really will be over it. At least I hope so. LOL.

Couch Tater

September 29th, 2012
8:23 pm

Thanks, Dave.

Frank -

Give Chipper a special assistant title and a video room as a retirement gift.

DS1

September 29th, 2012
8:23 pm

Minor on track for a 7 inning performance. Kid has really been impressive the 2nd half.

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
8:23 pm

Disgusted-

I’m saving that comment for later ;)

DS1

September 29th, 2012
8:25 pm

Disgusted

Can you imagine the disappointment from the fans if Chipper is not penciled into the lineup tomorrow? I’d be REALLY bummed if I were there and he only pinch hit.

Now if Fredi takes him out after the 5th inning or so, I don’t think anybody is going to complain.

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
8:25 pm

Man, we need Bourn’s thumb not to be BTHUMB.

Gotta have the good healty MIkey begining 10/5. We need him. Really do.

Now as for tonight’s game, I would love to see Minor get rewarded with a winning W-L record — he has not won games he pitched excellent in. 11-10 for Minor would look good. Kid has worked hard.

The offense owes him one.

George_George

September 29th, 2012
8:26 pm

If we get past that silly game Friday and win the best of 5 series I will be nice to FREDI.

Venice Jim

September 29th, 2012
8:26 pm

CAA!!!! CAA!!!!

nolie

September 29th, 2012
8:26 pm

Chipper will likely start Sunday and get some rest in Pitt

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
8:27 pm

Well DS-1, there is a post season to plan for, Fredi is doing a good job planning for it & if Chipper can play he will.

Got to look at the big picture.

Keith

September 29th, 2012
8:29 pm

DOB,

I understand your point about the “mental” edge, but there have also been lots of teams in the last several years who have had TERRIBLE Septembers and went on to get hot in the playoffs and win it all (i.e. Cardinals of 2006…and other teams I can’t remember at the moment).

Plainly stated, just get in.

And if it does matter, then i’m glad the Braves have been playing well. Then again, it’s just one game. I hate this year’s WC round, and I hope there will be an UPROAR to the commissioner and it will be an established series as both of those teams deserve next year.

Go BRAVES! :)

DS1

September 29th, 2012
8:29 pm

Bourn has gotten progressively more mediocre since the all star break. Not sure if he’s got anything left in the tank offensively. Fortunately, his hitting woes doesn’t seem to affect his D.

Keith

September 29th, 2012
8:30 pm

Sorry on my last post, I went a bit tangential. Then again, that’s the beauty of the blog. ;)

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
8:30 pm

If Bourn is really right for the post season he will be a real weapon.

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
8:30 pm

Constanza is gonna get an RBI in this AB, I feel it.

SNEAKY PETE

September 29th, 2012
8:31 pm

I hate Constanza :evil:

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
8:31 pm

That’s 5 Ks for Young tonight… 4 looking. Only Minor struck out swinging. And the ump tonight doesn’t call a lot of strike 3s.

PTBNL

September 29th, 2012
8:31 pm

Hey, nolie. Glad to see you well enough to be at the ole blog.

Hmmm It seems that the Braves pitchers have to throw shut outs to win. Lots of pressure on the defense.

DS1

September 29th, 2012
8:31 pm

Constanza is not really getting it done.

Venice Jim

September 29th, 2012
8:32 pm

MARTEEENNN!!!

nolie

September 29th, 2012
8:32 pm

Marteeeen!!!

George_George

September 29th, 2012
8:32 pm

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
8:32 pm

Back to watch this one go…….. of the wall. -Don Sutton

He sure has gotten worse with his Play by Play. Nice hit Prado!

DS1

September 29th, 2012
8:32 pm

The guy I most love to see batting when we really need a hit……………… Marteeeeeeen Prado!

Tomahawk Mafia

September 29th, 2012
8:32 pm

Constanza is worthless.

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
8:33 pm

Marteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen!!!

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
8:33 pm

Prado missed a 2-run homer by about 2 feet. It’s his league-leading 60th multi-hit game of the season

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
8:33 pm

Prado gets another RBI. Good one.

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
8:33 pm

Keith-

As far as blog tangents go, that may have been one of the most polite one I’ve ever seen ;)

Kat

September 29th, 2012
8:34 pm

We’re in love with the warning track tonight.

nolie

September 29th, 2012
8:34 pm

Jason gave it a shot

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
8:34 pm

Constanza is not really getting it done.

Don’t say that! He’s an MVP who puts pressure on the defense. He needs to start every day.

He hit it! A long way! How far will it go! Not far enough… 1 step shy of the wall.- Don Sutton. Geez, he’s getting like Chip Caray!

DS1

September 29th, 2012
8:34 pm

Don is getting us all worked up tonight………….

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
8:35 pm

and of course Prado’s hit came with 2 strikes (0-2 count). Few as comfortable with 2 strikes as he.

Tomahawk Mafia

September 29th, 2012
8:35 pm

Heyward put a massive charge into that ball. The wind must have played tricks with it.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
8:36 pm

Kevin McAlpin ‏@KevinMcAlpin
Martin Prado is just the 10th player in #Braves franchise history to reach 60 multi-hit games in a season & first since T Pendleton in ‘92

Nice

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
8:36 pm

Constanza is not really getting it done.

DS-1 — He really isn’t but he is a guy fans root for. Career minor leaguer, not that bad a AAAA player & we do remember that spark he gave us last August. It was a first impression that stayed with some fans.

Has not done as much this yr — but he is a likable player. An underdog. and a good minor league hitter. Has speed.

Capt.Mudd

September 29th, 2012
8:38 pm

LSU 7….Towson…9 you have got to be ….well, 14-9 now but The Battle of The Tigers? Oh no!

David from Athens, AL

September 29th, 2012
8:38 pm

Almost Jason … nice seeing all the old Braves in the booth … did not recognize Horner nor Garber

nolie

September 29th, 2012
8:39 pm

yeah he has speed, but he can’t get on base enough to use it much, and he takes a lot of bad routes in the outfield which negates it on defense too.

Move The Dart Thrower

September 29th, 2012
8:40 pm

So who is responsible for censoring comments that disagree with the “regs.?” I didn’t use profanity or anything close to that. I didn’t bring up politics, religion or question anyone’s heritage. All I did was disagree with some of the regular posters here…. but SOMEONE chose not to post my comments. Not just one, but multiple posts. Censor much AJC? So is this a social blog? A blog where if you disagree with the folks who are swapping recipes and mint julip ideas, you aren’t gonna get posted? What a joke!

What a joke that is! lol Can’t have people disagreeing with your “regs” can you?

SNEAKY PETE

September 29th, 2012
8:41 pm

yeah, definitely PL or Lou/Earl

John in Wichita

September 29th, 2012
8:42 pm

Blog GM’s had Minor traded for a big bag of peanuts back in April. Glad he’s still in the rotation!

DS1

September 29th, 2012
8:43 pm

Dart Thrower

That’d just about cover it……..

Disgusted

I am a nice guy, but the Braves haven’t offered to have me play for them yet.

:wink:

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
8:44 pm

There are certain words that have been abused in the past (otherwise innocent words) that are now caught in the moderation filter. Has nothing to do with being a regular or disagreeing with anyone. (although, a friendly comment, you may want to refrain from calling those that don’t agree with you stupid.)

Tomahawk Mafia

September 29th, 2012
8:44 pm

Why would he swing 3-0 leading off the inning?

Capt.Mudd

September 29th, 2012
8:45 pm

4 more runs, 4 more runs……4 more………………

Fredo

September 29th, 2012
8:45 pm

Chipper hitless thus far this series against the Mets …. that doesn’t happen often especially against that team

cricket

September 29th, 2012
8:47 pm

anyone got a recipe for mint julip (guy can’t even spell an insult properly)?

Couch Tater

September 29th, 2012
8:47 pm

did not recognize Horner nor Garber

David from Athens – Me either.

Capt.Mudd

September 29th, 2012
8:47 pm

‘Disagree with the regs?’ Did you mean to say Refs?

cricket

September 29th, 2012
8:47 pm

uggla coming around

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
8:48 pm

Uggla. Is. Back.

But yep, he should have been sat to start the month… hated that decision

George_George

September 29th, 2012
8:48 pm

Move The Dart Thrower

September 29th, 2012
8:40 pm
So who is responsible for censoring comments that disagree with the “regs.?” I didn’t use profanity or anything close to that. I didn’t bring up politics, religion or question anyone’s heritage. All I did was disagree with some of the regular posters here…. but SOMEONE chose not to post my comments. Not just one, but multiple posts. Censor much AJC? So is this a social blog? A blog where if you disagree with the folks who are swapping recipes and mint julip ideas, you aren’t gonna get posted? What a joke!

************************
I don’t think the blogger above said anything that bad tonight. I moderater is stopping some of his posts, it is NOT the right thing to do.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
8:49 pm

Is that Mac behind the plate? :lol:

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
8:50 pm

It’s not a person. It’s a computer filter system. It does not allow words like “compu-tation” and others for no apparent reason.

Trey

September 29th, 2012
8:51 pm

Sneaky Pete, it’s PL.

Capt.Mudd

September 29th, 2012
8:52 pm

@Couch Tater……”Did not recognize Horner nor Garber”

Old men don’t wear their hair like they used to!

Venice Jim

September 29th, 2012
8:52 pm

Simple syrup (water and sugar – boil pristine mountain spring water and add ample sugar to taste) – mint leaves – really, really good bourbon, and ice made from the same water…mix in a sterling silver decanter…that’s all a Mint Julep requires…

cricket

September 29th, 2012
8:53 pm

I don’t think the blogger above said anything that bad tonight.

i am pretty sure i’m feeding the troll, but how the heck do you know what this guy (who may be yourself, then you do) said in comments that WERE BLOCKED? you got a secret link to read blocked comments?

Capt.Mudd

September 29th, 2012
8:54 pm

@cabravesfan……filtered post of mine recently…….”VJ not cooking dinner for one month!”

Couch Tater

September 29th, 2012
8:54 pm

There are certain words that have been abused in the past (otherwise innocent words) that are now caught in the moderation filter

P@C 12

usnavyvolfaninva

September 29th, 2012
8:57 pm

WOW…after spending time on UT’s fan website, I have come to a greater appreication for this group. There’s fans on that forum that would make Mitchell look like the world’s biggest homer.

DS1

September 29th, 2012
8:57 pm

cricket

I am personally omnipresent. I know what all bloggers think before they think it………..

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
8:57 pm

I’m thinking that VJ is the moderator… :D

rep-u-t-a-tion is another censored word

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
8:57 pm

Capt.Mudd-

Well of course. That’s offensive ;)

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
8:57 pm

Capt.Mudd-

Well of course. That’s offensive ;)

Brava

September 29th, 2012
8:58 pm

Great work Mikey Minor!!!!

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
8:58 pm

Tomahawk Mafia

September 29th, 2012
8:58 pm

I think Constanza took a bad route that ball and it probably should have been caught.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
8:58 pm

Great work tonight, Mikey! Was behind ya all year. GM1 NLDS starter…

go get ‘em pen

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
8:59 pm

(I have no idea how that posted twice other than because my blog stopped loading for a moment)

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
8:59 pm

THawk:Yes, he did…. almost seemed like both he and Heyward slowed up there. Georgie should have had that easy though.

usnavyvolfaninva

September 29th, 2012
8:59 pm

I see Minor’s having another routine outing. LOL. I love this staff!

nolie

September 29th, 2012
8:59 pm

FSU sukks and should be booed!!!!

Moe Berg

September 29th, 2012
8:59 pm

Walker Percy’s Mint Julep recipe (from his Uncle Will):

“You need excellent bourbon whiskey; rye or Scotch will not do. Put half an inch of sugar in the bottom of the glass and merely dampen it with water. Next, very quickly—and here is the trick in the procedure—crush your ice, actually powder it—preferably in a towel with a wooden mallet, so quickly that it remains dry, and, slipping two sprigs of fresh mint against the inside of the glass, cram the ice in right to the brim, packing it with your hand. Finally, fill the glass, which apparently has no room left for anything else, with bourbon, the older the better, and grate a bit of nutmeg on the top. The glass will frost immediately. Then settle back in your chair for half an hour of cumulative bliss.”

Me? If I have a good bourbon, I don’t want to adulterate with any syrup or mint.

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
9:00 pm

I am a nice guy, but the Braves haven’t offered to have me play for them yet.

I am sure you are DS-1, but I am sure that you have not even been offered to play in AAA too.

Constanza is a AAAA player, nothing more nothing less. We have had worse players around. Like underachieveers Damaso Garcia and Garrett Anderson. Jo Jo Reyes on the ptiching side Jo Jo is the worst P in Braves history.

Could not stand either one.

DS1

September 29th, 2012
9:00 pm

Speaking of mint juleps, I was at a huge mint farm in WA state last week. As a gift was given a vial of pure peppermint oil. Quite powerful stuff. Can I make someone a drink?

Capt.Mudd

September 29th, 2012
9:00 pm

There’s a place in TN….near Nashville……called Mint Julep, TN

nolie

September 29th, 2012
9:01 pm

I think it is the P*U*T*A combination

cricket

September 29th, 2012
9:01 pm

I am personally omnipresent. I know what all bloggers think before they think it………..DS1

i bet you also have them divided in 2 categories – dipsticks and non-dipsticks :)

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
9:01 pm

Kevin McAlpin ‏@KevinMcAlpin
Dan Uggla now has 6 multi-hit games in September (24 games). From June thru August, he had a total of 4 multi-hit games (75 games) #Braves

8)

Ekim56

September 29th, 2012
9:02 pm

Two Neil Young songs in the past couple or three weeks. I’m lovin’ that.

DS1

September 29th, 2012
9:03 pm

Disgusted

Not trying to be disagreeable, but I’m guessing we could name quite a few players that might have better qualifications to being the worst Braves player ever.

Any takers? (I’m working on my list)

George_George

September 29th, 2012
9:04 pm

Outta here to take a walk with Peanut then watch rest of game. Have a good one. Nite all.

Capt.Mudd

September 29th, 2012
9:04 pm

@cabravesfan……Yes, the moment I hit the submit; I knew then it would be a [2x] double offensive.:)

Venice Jim

September 29th, 2012
9:04 pm

Moe – I once heard (on the radio) a recipe for Mint Juleps that used a much more involved explanation of what I excerpted, combined with parts of yours, and, at the end, said “pour everything down the sink and pour the bourbon in the glass”…

cricket

September 29th, 2012
9:04 pm

why didn’t i win it? i woulda happily retired immediately instead of dreading going to work every day

A drug overdose may have killed Amanda Clayton, a Detroit-area woman who won a $1 million lottery prize but kept collecting welfare benefits, police said Saturday.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
9:04 pm

interesting balk

DS1

September 29th, 2012
9:05 pm

cricket

You may not be omnipresent like me, but you’re purty smart!

:wink:

usnavyvolfaninva

September 29th, 2012
9:05 pm

Have they announced the attendance for tonight’s game yet?

Couch Tater

September 29th, 2012
9:05 pm

usnavyvolfaninva – Dooley. Yes? No?

He got a good one in Sunseri.

Tomahawk Mafia

September 29th, 2012
9:05 pm

Poor Avilan. He looked foolish on that balk.

cricket

September 29th, 2012
9:06 pm

my nomination for worst braves players – Albie Lopez

Capt.Mudd

September 29th, 2012
9:06 pm

Correction: That was supposed to be Mt. Julliet, TN………..Duda, duda!

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
9:06 pm

Avilan to the ‘pen next year! Great job by the FO calling him up from AA this year.

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
9:06 pm

Avilan strikes out Duda with runner at 3rd to preserve 2-0 lead headed to bottom 7th. Minor 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 K in 6-1/3

DS1

September 29th, 2012
9:07 pm

cricket

Now that’s a sad story………….

Moe Berg

September 29th, 2012
9:08 pm

VJ–very nice. I am much more into drinks that are not mixed–want to appreciate the taste of the liquor. Martinis are about as much of a mixed drink as I go for.

Capt.Mudd

September 29th, 2012
9:08 pm

Sal Sunseri…..had some real good calls on for the Dawgs today….TN is surprisingly good/improved.

Whining Joe Simpson

September 29th, 2012
9:09 pm

C’mon Joe! You sounded like Hawk “the most idiotic homer of all” Harrelson when Avilan threw a curve that was without a doubt low. Even replay showed it was low and you still whined. That’s sickening.

DS1

September 29th, 2012
9:09 pm

Avilan kinda came out of nowhere this year. I’m not sure any of us blog fans saw that one coming.

Scot Thorman gotta be up there as one of the worst Braves in the pasts 20 years.

Capt.Mudd

September 29th, 2012
9:09 pm

A ton of want at the plate…..Mr. Hinske!

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
9:11 pm

No Hinske on PS roster

Half Empty

September 29th, 2012
9:11 pm

please do not bring Hinske back next season

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
9:11 pm

DS-1 — I guess we could keep it to the ATL Braves era.

My personal worst is a tie betweed Nick Esasky and Damaso Garcia.

Worst pitchers I would have to start with Jo Jo Reyes and Len Barker.

Bruce Sutter pretty bad sign too. HOF not with us, he was mostly a BUMB for us.

Most underachieved prospects are Pete Smith and Brad Kommisk.

Blaine Boyer and most of those Baby Braves were big busts.

And who can forget Joey “Grand Slam” Devine.

Horriffic pieces of ATL Braves history.

Also going to the old days how about shortstop wanna bees Craig Robinson and Pat Rockett — horriffic with a capital H.

And I did not like Andres Thomas — why did we not consider trading him for Barry Bonds (alleaged rumor around 1989).

Two mistakes Bobby made as a GM was to hold on to Murph too long and not move Andres THomas when he could have gotten something for him.

Moe Berg

September 29th, 2012
9:11 pm

Does Hinske make the postseason roster?

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
9:11 pm

That’s a generous hit for Constanza

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
9:13 pm

It was a mistake to bring back Hinske this year…. it’d be a bigger one to let him on the PS roster, imo.

Georgie…. :mad: Out by a mile

cricket

September 29th, 2012
9:13 pm

yeah – Avilan is a great out-of-nowhere story. he himself was surprised by the call-up and i don’t remember even Efrim mentioning him..

Moe Berg

September 29th, 2012
9:13 pm

TOBF answered my question before it posted. Other thoughts? Then Overbay is the primary LH bat off the bench?

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
9:14 pm

Hinske was good for us but has been BUMB this yr.

He is as good as gone thif off season.

BAD BASERUNNING _______ BOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can’t U run the bases Charlie Brown??????? Snoopy could have done better.

DS1

September 29th, 2012
9:14 pm

Dan Kolb has to be in the conversation.

DS1

September 29th, 2012
9:15 pm

A lot more to stealing bases than just being fast.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
9:15 pm

Overbay shouldn’t make it either. I’d assume that Hinske gets the nod since he’s been here longer. Overbay is what, 1-15 since arriving with 9Ks? Not a way to win a spot.

Tomahawk Mafia

September 29th, 2012
9:15 pm

Constanza is tough to watch sometimes.

kenhotlanta

September 29th, 2012
9:15 pm

Wow, it was great to see Bob Horner, it has been a long time and he is one of my all-time favorite Braves. Good to see him with Knucksie, Eggs, Gino and Murph…that was a great team and a very interesting season.
Next year, I wish the Braves would replace Glavine with Dale Murphy full time in the broadcast booth, he has really improved as an analyst.

Half Empty

September 29th, 2012
9:15 pm

don’t forget Melky

Moe Berg

September 29th, 2012
9:15 pm

Wayne–maybe we should go position by position–the Worst Stars of the Braves.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
9:17 pm

Reed Johnson comes in as a defensive replacement for Constanza… more proof that Georgie isn’t a great defender

Half Empty

September 29th, 2012
9:18 pm

not a good start
Johnson as defensive replacement for Georgie again

Venice Jim

September 29th, 2012
9:18 pm

Moe – except for the first Saturday in May, I agree completely…

Venice Jim

September 29th, 2012
9:19 pm

That works…

usnavyvolfaninva

September 29th, 2012
9:21 pm

Capt. Mudd,
UT isn’t the first team to struggle with learning a 3-4 defense… but, man, doesn’t make it any less painful to watch.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
9:22 pm

Score only 1 run Bravos… Kimmeh needs a save+ the work… want to see him get his ERA under 1.00

Whining Joe Simpson

September 29th, 2012
9:23 pm

Hinske was great for two years as a Brave. No doubt he has played his way out of Atlanta. Hate to see that, but it’s a fact. Thanks Eric. You did your part, especially a couple of years ago (thanks Brooks Conrad and Mike Dunn) trying to help the Braves advance to the NLCS.

Venice Jim

September 29th, 2012
9:23 pm

W&M takes a 28-3 lead on Georgia State (moving towards 0-5) – why are they moving to FBS?

DS1

September 29th, 2012
9:24 pm

Moe

I’d love to participate, but I’m going to be leaving soon.

But we should only include players who have played the majority of games for at least 1 year at each position. And we should keep it to the Atlanta Braves teams.

cricket

September 29th, 2012
9:25 pm

so they fire only Al Groh or also CPJ?

Venice Jim

September 29th, 2012
9:25 pm

Adam Kilgore ‏@AdamKilgoreWP
Mets down, 2-0, after the top of the eighth. They’re gonna have to score a pair off Kimbrel for the Nats to clinch the East tonight.

Disgusted

September 29th, 2012
9:25 pm

That is right DS-1 — Dan Kolb he was terrible.

He talked his way out of the closer’s role.

DS1

September 29th, 2012
9:25 pm

3 more 1 inning outings puts Kimbrel’s ERA under 1. That is IF he doesn’t give up any earned runs.

Whining Joe Simpson

September 29th, 2012
9:26 pm

Braves fans need to pray that Braves pitching holds up. Offense has reverted to terrible again. Reverted may be too strong of a statement. They never actually showed any offensive prowess in the second half.

Look at Freddie. Look at Heyward. Look at the rest of the lineup. Promise without actual results.

Its pitching or nothing with this team.

Moe Berg

September 29th, 2012
9:26 pm

VJ–Yes, of course. There are times and events which trump even the most entrenched of propensities.

Whining Joe Simpson

September 29th, 2012
9:26 pm

Braves fans need to pray that Braves pitching holds up. Offense has reverted to terrible again. Reverted may be too strong of a statement. They never actually showed any offensive prowess in the second half.

Look at Freddie. Look at Heyward. Look at the rest of the lineup. Promise without actual results.

Its pitching or nothing with this team.

DS1

September 29th, 2012
9:27 pm

Love to see Chipper park one into the seats!

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
9:28 pm

2 years? Hinske was only really good for 1 year, and even then it was just for half a year. He hit .233 last year, and is at .195 this year. He hit .226 in the 2nd half of 2010, though he did hit 5 HR w/ 17 RBIs

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
9:28 pm

Braves 4th sellout of season — 41,310 48,310 is the attendance

Brava

September 29th, 2012
9:29 pm

Kimmeh Time!

Capt.Mudd

September 29th, 2012
9:30 pm

TV just announced a crowd of 48K

cricket

September 29th, 2012
9:31 pm

can’t really go by BA for a part-timer, mainly pinch hitter. didn’t he did hit a critical homer against SF? if that holds up, who knows – he may have turned out to be braves’ PS hero.

anyway, he’s done now.

Moe Berg

September 29th, 2012
9:31 pm

I fly into Atlanta on Friday, but too late to make it to the WC game. If it is an evening game, I’ll miss it, while on the plane.

Venice Jim

September 29th, 2012
9:32 pm

Make that 35-3…

Half Empty

September 29th, 2012
9:33 pm

Fredo

September 29th, 2012
9:33 pm

Venice Jim

September 29th, 2012
9:33 pm

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
9:34 pm

Damn, that was wild. Calm down, Kimbrel. No runs please!

Brava

September 29th, 2012
9:34 pm

Crap. Come on guys. Get it together.

Half Empty

September 29th, 2012
9:34 pm

WTH was that?

Venice Jim

September 29th, 2012
9:34 pm

Adam Kilgore ‏@AdamKilgoreWP
It’s suddenly 4-2 at Busch. Davey sticks with Jordan Zimmermann with one out in the 7th, Kozma laces a double down the line.

Fredo

September 29th, 2012
9:36 pm

Chip! Joe! Stop cheering for the Cards to get hot!

Venice Jim

September 29th, 2012
9:37 pm

Cards make it 4-3…

usnavyvolfaninva

September 29th, 2012
9:37 pm

Tying runs on for the Cards

Capt.Mudd

September 29th, 2012
9:37 pm

Vols disguised many coveragesand deserve credit for playing creatively off their base “D”….I know, I know….they’re a work in progress.

Whining Joe Simpson

September 29th, 2012
9:38 pm

Its not how many hits you get, its when you get your hits. Andrew Jones had a good career in ATL if you look at his stats. The fact is he only had one really good year when he was a difference maker. His next to last year in ATL Andrew was a beast. Other years he had decent numbers but many of those decent numbers he had were when the Braves were up by 5 or down by 5. Andrew was the anti-Chipper. You did not want Andrew at the plate with the game on the line based on his career performance in ATL.

Hinske’s numbers haven’t been great but he’s had some big hits. Take his and Rick Ankiel’s performance away from the 2010 Braves and the Braves are pitiful in the post-seaoon that year.

Maybe it speaks to your talent when those guys are the best performers in the post-season.

Fredo

September 29th, 2012
9:39 pm

wow, nice shot Kimbrel … two guys with that one

Half Empty

September 29th, 2012
9:39 pm

what the hell is going on here with Kimbrel?

JC Brave

September 29th, 2012
9:40 pm

Couch Tater

September 29th, 2012
9:40 pm

2 for 1 specials at the old ballpark tonight.

Tomahawk Mafia

September 29th, 2012
9:40 pm

Kimbrel seems a little off.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
9:40 pm

Kimbrel seems like he wants to hit everyone tonight…

usnavyvolfaninva

September 29th, 2012
9:40 pm

They DID force a few fumbles…unfortunately, they were anomalies sprinlkled among all the huge plays they gave up.

Kimbrel Is Thinking Of Chicken Wings

September 29th, 2012
9:40 pm

Craig. Wake up please.

HooRah

September 29th, 2012
9:41 pm

thrtee run homer???

Fredo

September 29th, 2012
9:42 pm

Duda next with two runners on ….. wasn’t a good situation to be in yesterday

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
9:42 pm

Not sure how well a team that gave up 51 points disguised their coverages… :;)

Kimbrel Is Thinking Of Chicken Wings

September 29th, 2012
9:42 pm

Kimbrel is telling Mac, “listen fatboy, quite clowning . Throw down the one finger and lets go home!”

Capt.Mudd

September 29th, 2012
9:42 pm

IKe in waiting

Venice Jim

September 29th, 2012
9:43 pm

Kat

September 29th, 2012
9:44 pm

Awesome win!

Kat

September 29th, 2012
9:44 pm

Awesome win!

Venice Jim

September 29th, 2012
9:44 pm

Well done…

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
9:44 pm

Slider strike 3 called… 8) Line up and shake hands! Great pitching boys, esp. Minor

JC Brave

September 29th, 2012
9:44 pm

Brava

September 29th, 2012
9:44 pm

Yeah. Baby!!!! Braves Win!!!!!

nolie

September 29th, 2012
9:44 pm

Jolly Good Shew

Venice Jim

September 29th, 2012
9:45 pm

Cards out in 7th, down 4-3…

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
9:45 pm

Kimbrel knows how to get my heart rate up…

Venice Jim

September 29th, 2012
9:46 pm

Adam Kilgore ‏@AdamKilgoreWP
Braves win, 2-0, after Lucas Duda struck out with two on against Kimbrel. Hold the champagne.

Tomahawk Mafia

September 29th, 2012
9:46 pm

That turned out well.

usnavyvolfaninva

September 29th, 2012
9:46 pm

Kimbrel for the CY!

nolie

September 29th, 2012
9:46 pm

not really caring much what happens with the Nats/Cards. Don’t really want the Cards to get any hotter than they already are

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
9:47 pm

Mark Bowman ‏@mlbbowman
Kimbrel’s two strikeouts complete a scoreless ninth and 2-0 win over the Mets. Hope of winning the NL East extended at least one more day

Less starts possibly for the backups, but that’s okay. It’s nice to still have a shot.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
9:49 pm

Mike Minor has a winning season as well… continues the trend he’s had since last 2 seasons.

usnavyvolfaninva

September 29th, 2012
9:49 pm

cab,
UT just needs to hit the recruiting trail hard for defensive help. We’re going through a rough patch, no doubt about it. Happens to everybody.

Gone Viral

September 29th, 2012
9:51 pm

Minor’s season really has mirrored the one John Smoltz had in 91. Let’s hope his next few years emulate Smoltz as well.

usnavyvolfaninva

September 29th, 2012
9:54 pm

Considering everybody thought the Nats had this in the bag weeks (maybe even months) ago, the fact that they haven’t clinched yet with 4 games to play speaks volumes on how well the braves have done down the stretch.

Fredo

September 29th, 2012
9:55 pm

O’s are back in a tie for first place

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
9:56 pm

usnavyvolfaninva-

Oh, I know. College football is very cyclical. I was just teasing Capt. Mudd a bit :)

Capt.Mudd

September 29th, 2012
9:56 pm

Cabravesfan……Every typical fan looks at the ‘51′ given up by the Vols and blanketly will affix a defensive failure–and, if the final score make you toot–great!

What I saw were a few nice creative disguises by the Vol defense today at GA…..these were successfully executed on the particular play they were dialed up by the D-Coordinator…..in these particular instances….the defense made it more difficult on the Bulldog offense to execute the particular play they intended to run–which most probably is based in part on the defensive formation….I don’t really care about which group of 18-22 yr. olds beats another group of the same….I primarily look at down and distance and in game score to determine what I would run if I were roaming the side-lines…….The final score? Ok one might say that giving up 51 pts. is not creative enough…..so right you are!!!!!!

nolie

September 29th, 2012
9:57 pm

70-63 is my kinda pointyball game

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2012
9:59 pm

Capt-

Just teasing :)

usnavyvolfaninva

September 29th, 2012
9:59 pm

Capt.
I just don’t know if there’s enough patience left in Knoxville to give this system another year.

Lee in S GA

September 29th, 2012
10:00 pm

O’s are back in a tie for first place….
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if I had my choice it would either be them or the A’s playing Atlanta in the W.S.

nolie

September 29th, 2012
10:02 pm

Far as I’m concerned the As can go to hell. They were the hotbed for PEDS

Couch Tater

September 29th, 2012
10:03 pm

They just hired Sunseri.

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
10:04 pm

Being a major dog fan I’ll say the vols showed well today they will get the players they need on D the next couple of years and that QB looked pretty good too,see you next year

usnavyvolfaninva

September 29th, 2012
10:06 pm

Couch Tater,
patience is a virtue not easily practiced in the Vol Nation. I’m currently on the UT-Message board as well, and they’re already wanting Sal fired.

JC Brave

September 29th, 2012
10:06 pm

Nice piece of work by Beltran.

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
10:08 pm

Next week the ol’ball coach will try his luck its gonna be a bloodletter and a slobber-knocker can’t wait

Lee in S GA

September 29th, 2012
10:09 pm

patience is a virtue not easily practiced in the Vol Nation. I’m currently on the UT-Message board as well, and they’re already wanting Sal fired.
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they have lost to FL and GA already….you can see why patience is running short

Couch Tater

September 29th, 2012
10:09 pm

Vol – Mistake.

Fredo

September 29th, 2012
10:10 pm

“if I had my choice it would either be them or the A’s playing Atlanta in the W.S.”

same here but I’ll add the Reds to my list too (and the Rays too, if they can make it in). I’ve seen the Yanks/Rangers/Tigers/Giants/Cards in the World Series in recent years. Nats are a division rival, I never root for them to go far

MikeInFl

September 29th, 2012
10:11 pm

I agree, chip. I think TN is on the right track too (also a dawg fan here).

As to UGA, disgusted can whine all he wants, but I’ll take an SEC win anytime, any score. And, the defense is loaded with talent and I think the scheme is a lot better than under Martinez. At least we usually have a defender in the vicinity of the receiver.

Gave up some big plays, but I think the defense will be a strong point as the season goes along.

And polls don’t matter when you’re in the SEC. If we win out, we’ll win the national championship. Beyond that, who cares about polls?

Capt.Mudd

September 29th, 2012
10:12 pm

I know the Gators did their thing again in Knoxville–and, going back to the “Peyton never beat ‘em” years it is a long running sore stop for the Big Orange…..I really feel Dooley will get it done there because he has already got them in gear. Let’s just say I’ve talked to Coach Fulmer a few times and feel like I understand the Vol Nation in general terms–but how they deal with Derek is ok with me either way because I know the guy is a quality coach.

Efrim

September 29th, 2012
10:12 pm

Jason is down to .267/.335/.479 on the year. He’s dropped 48 points of OPS over the last 30 games – was at .862 on August 27th. Just an awful finish to a bounce back year from Heyward.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
10:13 pm

And polls don’t matter when you’re in the SEC.

The way it should be…. best conference out there.

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
10:15 pm

Minor is 5-0 in past 7 starts inc. 4-0 w/ 0.87 ERA in his past 5.

Has 2.21 ERA in past 15 starts, after 6.20 ERA in 1st 15.

Capt.Mudd

September 29th, 2012
10:16 pm

@cabravesfan…..Tease on; :) :)

kenhotlanta

September 29th, 2012
10:16 pm

Dawgs need to bury the ole’ ball coach next week, which means they will have to play a lot better than they showed today.

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
10:16 pm

O’Flaherty had stiff back today, won’t pitch for a few days probably. He’s had significant back problems in past, but this isn’t serious according to Fredi.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
10:17 pm

Kevin McAlpin ‏@KevinMcAlpin
Fredi says he thinks tonight was Mike Minor’s last start of the regular season. #Braves

Get him ready for post season. Like it. Game 1!

Lee in S GA

September 29th, 2012
10:20 pm

The way it should be…. best conference out there.
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It seems like it almost hurts the 2 idiots on PTI on ESPN to admit that. They were hoping USC would overtake the championship before the season began (as much as said it several times) …now I know they have to be pulling for Oregon.

scott from fairburn

September 29th, 2012
10:22 pm

right on, pedal to the metal … i wish coxie would have bought into this about ten division tiles ago

Venice Jim

September 29th, 2012
10:22 pm

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
10:24 pm

make em sweat

UKUGA

September 29th, 2012
10:24 pm

If the Cards sweep WAS, then I REALLY want to catch WAS, because I have no desire to face a red hot St. Louis next Friday. None.

usnavyvolfaninva

September 29th, 2012
10:24 pm

I can’t figure Jason out. I’m sure he’s as frustrated as anyone. He hit well for much of the year, and all of a sudden he’s run into a brick wall. Braves need him to get out of his slump if they’re going to go anywhere in the playoffs.

Ghost of Chipper Jones

September 29th, 2012
10:25 pm

Looks like MEDS, the BEACH-master, and MINOR will carry us into 2014 and beyond with a forty-year old HUDDY as an afterthought. Who woulda’ thunk three season’s ago that HANSON and JURRJENS would both be on the ropes.

I got a lot of respect for HUDSON. He should be honored as much as all our other great players when his career winds up. He’s done more with less than most any pitcher in baseball since the end of the PED’s era. Through all the injuries and surgeries, he’s been a warrior. A true BRAVE.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
10:25 pm

Nats relievers have really stunk it up this month. If we make it to NLDS, really would prefer to face them

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
10:27 pm

UKUGA: Agree with ya.

Fredo

September 29th, 2012
10:28 pm

Huddy’s 3 run shot last night could be a huge difference in the division race if the Nats actually lose tonight

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
10:28 pm

Mikeinfla Ismell what you’re steppin in it took a few years to get the guys we needed to get the D# poppin

Ghost of Chipper Jones

September 29th, 2012
10:28 pm

David O’Brien
September 29th, 2012
10:16 pm

“…….O’Flaherty had stiff back today, won’t pitch for a few days probably. He’s had significant back problems in past, but this isn’t serious according to Fredi……”

No tongue in cheek re: the manager’s comment……..I hope!

Lee in S GA

September 29th, 2012
10:30 pm

got a lot of respect for HUDSON. He should be honored as much as all our other great players when his career winds up. He’s done more with less than most any pitcher in baseball since the end of the PED’s era. Through all the injuries and surgeries, he’s been a warrior. A true BRAVE.
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I agree with yo completely. It seems so long ago that he started in Oakland but it just seems to me he don’t get enough credit being a Braves player.

Couch Tater

September 29th, 2012
10:38 pm

Glavine, age 24, ERA 4.28 78 BB, 129 SO

Minor, age 24, ERA 4.27, 56 BB, 141 SO.

UKUGA

September 29th, 2012
10:41 pm

phil

September 29th, 2012
10:41 pm

According to FG, Bourn was ready to go a week ago….

Liar.

JC Brave

September 29th, 2012
10:43 pm

Nice one, Cardinals…

UKUGA

September 29th, 2012
10:43 pm

i really don’t like the Nats color commentator

pretty sure he’s the same guy they’ve had for a few years.

phil

September 29th, 2012
10:43 pm

Nats 6-4 now….

Sigh

phil

September 29th, 2012
10:44 pm

Glad to see we won….

Just back from athens….did we manage more than 3 hits?

Venice Jim

September 29th, 2012
10:45 pm

richbrave – sorry about the too-little-too-late comeback effort against the Monarchs…

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
10:48 pm

Minor has a .195 opponents’ batting average in his past 15 starts and .129 in his past 5 starts.

Hugo Z Hackenbush

September 29th, 2012
10:49 pm

Yes, “we” managed more than three hits, pissant.

UKUGA

September 29th, 2012
10:50 pm

If Cards come back and win this, it will highlight why I don’t want to play them.

Nerdville

September 29th, 2012
10:50 pm

only 3 runs scored in last two games against a very crummy mets team.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
10:51 pm

Minor has a .195 opponents’ batting average in his past 15 starts and .129 in his past 5 starts.

Compared to .256 over last 15 and .248 over last 5 for Tim Hudson.

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
10:52 pm

Nats scored 2 in the top of the 10th, lead Cardinals 6-4 in bottom 10th

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
10:53 pm

Typo on that earlier comment, attendance was 48,310 tonight.

UKUGA

September 29th, 2012
10:55 pm

How much will Chipper play in Pittsburgh?

If Nats win tomorrow or Braves lose tomorrow, will he be on PH-only duty?

I’m worried about the guy being out of gas.

JC Brave

September 29th, 2012
10:55 pm

If Cards come back and win this, it will highlight why I don’t want to play them.

The Nationals are worse… especially against the Braves… it’s like no lead is safe against those freaks.

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
10:55 pm

Braves drew just over 100,000 the past 2 nights

UKUGA

September 29th, 2012
10:57 pm

If game is at night next Friday, wonder if Braves will draw another 50,000?

Would be wild.

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
10:58 pm

I like our chances

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
10:58 pm

Nats win 6-4 in 10 innings, reduce magic number to 1 to clinch division title. Have already locked up at least a share of the title, and either 1 Nats win or 1 Braves loss the rest of the way gives Washington the title.

MikeInFl

September 29th, 2012
11:00 pm

Got ‘em right where we want ‘em.

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
11:02 pm

Smokey R on live at Daryl’s

ChattTownBrian

September 29th, 2012
11:04 pm

UKUGA, I think Turner will be sold out. By the way, I’d also like to know what time the game starts. Got to work until 2 on Friday’s. No way I’m missing the game. I’d like to see them try and stop me. :mad:

Baseball Etiquette 101

September 29th, 2012
11:04 pm

Attention Fans at the TED:

If you are sitting in the middle of a row, please do NOT leave or return to your seat in the middle of an inning. Not only are you causing the people in your row who have to get up to let you in or out to miss part of the action, but also all those fans behind them who cannot see when they’re standing. In case you haven’t noticed, there is a natural break in the action after every third out which will give you ample time to leave or return to your seat.

Doc Holliday

September 29th, 2012
11:07 pm

Im not sure if this has been said lately………but for those who dont believe in pitching:

LA Dodgers are the only team among top 6 ERA teams that are not making the playoff.
1. NATS
2. Reds
3. LA
4. Braves
5. SF
6. Cards.

Only 2 teams among top 5 in runs scored are going to the playoffs……….. Cards and Nats.

Same goes in the AL:

of the top 9 ERA ………..8 of those teams are still alive or are already in for the playoffs. Only mariners (3rd) are out.

While in runs scored……..only 6 of top 9 are in or alive………….

this clearly tells that pitching gives you a better shot at advancing into playoffs.

Chop Chop

September 29th, 2012
11:08 pm

Sure would be funny as hell to see Medlen choke that wild-card game away against the Cards. Would it be possible for Braves fans to hate the Cards anymore after we choked it away to ‘em last year? Maybe.

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
11:14 pm

Why would a Braves fan hate the Cards?I hate the Reds Dodgers Phillies and working on the Nats

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
11:15 pm

Oh yea Twins and Pin stripers hate them too

Chop Chop

September 29th, 2012
11:16 pm

Texas-Oklahoma St.

Gus Johnson’s on tilt.

Couch Tater

September 29th, 2012
11:18 pm

Where have you been, Doc?

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
11:20 pm

that was a great comeback drive by the Longhorns, assuming the call stands

Venice Jim

September 29th, 2012
11:21 pm

Sure would be funny as hell to see Medlen choke that wild-card game away against the Cards

Glad to see someone who hates the Braves posting…or a fan with a perverse sense of humor…

(no offense intended, since you have always had a claim to alleged fandom, despite clearly not falling into the camp)…

nolie

September 29th, 2012
11:21 pm

I love the Cards

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
11:28 pm

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
11:30 pm

I’ve always liked em too nolie but Oct 5 I hope they are
off the chain bad

kenhotlanta

September 29th, 2012
11:30 pm

I love the Cards of Stan Musial, Ken Boyer, Vinegar Bend Mizell, Bobby Del Greco, Bobby Gene Smith, Red Schoendienst, etc. That team and the Milwaukee Braves had by far the best looking uniforms ever.

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
11:33 pm

I understand your point about the “mental” edge, but there have also been lots of teams in the last several years who have had TERRIBLE Septembers and went on to get hot in the playoffs and win it all (i.e. Cardinals of 2006…and other teams I can’t remember at the moment). — Keith

But how far back did you go to find the first example of a team that went in cold and won it? As opposed to all the examples I gave of teams that did the opposite SINCE then?

nolie

September 29th, 2012
11:37 pm

but Oct 5 I hope they are off the chain bad…Chip

but of course :D

ChattTownBrian

September 29th, 2012
11:40 pm

“I love the Cards” nolie

To each their own as Chipper would say.

Doc Holliday

September 29th, 2012
11:41 pm

Couch Tater,

following our braves but silently.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
11:41 pm

I like the Cards farm system, their CF, and RF. That’s about it! :)

nolie

September 29th, 2012
11:41 pm

Cards knocked us out in ‘82. IIRC Knucksie was leading the first game and it got rained out, and the rest of our pitching wasn’t worth much anyway. Knucksie came back on one day rest and wasn’t quite as sharp

Powder Blue

September 29th, 2012
11:42 pm

How ’bout those Orioles?

nolie

September 29th, 2012
11:43 pm

I’m taking about the team over the decades, not the players today. For a long time is was the farthest West and deepest South team around and it has a great history.

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
11:43 pm

How much will Chipper play in Pittsburgh? — UKUGA

If Nats clinch, would expect Chipper to rest all or most of Pittsburgh series.

nolie

September 29th, 2012
11:45 pm

are they giving him a gift?

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
11:46 pm

Phil Niekro was a real hero of mine man he was fun to watch but it was hell trying to catch him

Ken Stallings

September 29th, 2012
11:47 pm

Thought the Nats might give the Braves a sliver of hope, but they came back to beat the Cards after the Cards came back to tie from an early 4-0 deficit. Now the best the Braves can do is tie the Nats and force a one-game playoff for the division and frankly I would rather the Braves avoid that and just take their chances in the Wild Card playoff game with Medlen on the hill. I like our chances with him pitching whether it is the Cards or the Dodgers.

At this point it will be either the Cards or the Dodgers. If the Dodgers win tonight, then things get interesting for the Cardinals. Wouldn’t it be poetic justice is the irony in Wainwright’s intemperate remarks was that the Dodgers took the Wild Card away from the Dodgers and they never had a chance to play the Braves in postseason?

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
11:48 pm

I suppose anyway

Ken Stallings

September 29th, 2012
11:49 pm

Yep, in 1982 that rainout killed the Braves. It took Knucksie out of the NLDS (which was a short series back then that started the first two at Saint Louis. If the rainout had come just a half inning later, it would have been official and the Braves won.

Might have been a totally different outcome had that happened, but alas such was not the case and the Braves got swept. The Cards went on to win the 1982 World Series as their catcher Darrell Porter was named MVP of the World Series.

Ken Stallings

September 29th, 2012
11:50 pm

Dale Murphy hit a sharp single up the middle to plate that RBI. Would have been a nice cherry on his NL MVP award that year!

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
11:51 pm

I would hate to play the Dodgers if they were on a roll but I guess it dont matter as long as we are loose and play our game

Dum-Bass

September 29th, 2012
11:54 pm

Trying to get into the Cards mindset here. The Braves have Medlen going tomorrow to set him up for pitching Friday’s play-in game. The Cards are throwing Lynn tomorrow who is 17-7 but is a RH pitcher. Are they doing the same thing with him? They do have a lefty, Garcia(only LH starter) but he’s pitching on Monday. If he goes for them on Friday, that would be with 3 day’s rest. If they looked at the stats they would surely go with Garcia, but apparently manager Mike Matheny has other ideas. The Braves have only scored 238 runs this season vs LH’s and 448 vs RH’s. Huge difference! Almost looks like a mistake.

kenhotlanta

September 29th, 2012
11:54 pm

You could pick up the Cardinal games on the radio at night with Harry Carey (when he was sober and good) and Jack Buck. Also, the White Sox, Pirates, Phillies, Yankees, Reds, and sometimes the Tigers. I was a wide-eyed little kid listening to my baseball card heroes.

Couch Tater

September 30th, 2012
12:03 am

Doc –

I’ve been missing that Panama hat. Good to see a post. Jump in and cause some controversy. heh, heh.

Charles

September 30th, 2012
12:22 am

Great column — the Braves need to keep pushing and not go into a rest mode. Offense is still questionable in a 5 game series vs. the Nats, especially since you will only have Medlen for 1 game. So I think you are spot on with not going into hibernation for the final series vs. the Pirates. Rest Chipper as needed and any injured, but otherwise play to win. The recent series vs. the Nats may have put a scare into them. While the division title is gone, the Nats will be sweating bullets if the Braves close it to 2 games or better by seasons end. The Strasbourg issue will get a lot of press and they may collapse. So keep on the heat.

Puma

September 30th, 2012
12:28 am

I hope we do play the Cards- payback for last year! Either way, I hate the 1 game play in, too much can go wrong for a team in 1 game.

I don’t see a let-up in the future for the Braves, even if the Pittsburgh series is all but meaningless, I don’t think 3 games is enough to lose the edge. Also a good opportunity to give some of those bench guys some at bats.

DOB – Do you know / think Janish will be able to play in postseason? Sure would hate to see him left out after the impact he had.

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
12:28 am

I almost feel guilty growing up in NY where I could listen to and watch the team I rooted for…made up for it living in Richmond, where I’d be happy to catch the FAN, and, later, when I finally started rooting for the right team, WSB at night…

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:30 am

My kingdom for some runs tomorrow!!!

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
12:34 am

I’d save your kingdom for Friday… ;)

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:34 am

Puma, as much as Janish is playoff-worthy, Pastornicky will probably get the nod because of his better hitting, relatively speaking. Honestly, who’s to say what which players will make up the bench for the playoffs. Collectivley, with the exception of Reed Johnson, Braves’ pinch-hitting has been rotting putrid.

If the Braves beat the Cards on Friday, it will be because Medlen twirls a shutout.

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:37 am

It may be too late in the night to ask this Q, but has Medlen ever faced the Cards as a starter? For that matter, ever?

Puma

September 30th, 2012
12:39 am

Oh come on MiaBch – that is just too pessimistic. They’ll come around…I hope. But hey, can’t complain too much being 18-8 or something close too that in September, they are playing some good baseball right now.

Mitchell

September 30th, 2012
12:41 am

Officially impossible to lose if the other team doesn’t score, in case that was still unclear.

That’s been made official.

Nothing to worry about moving forward. We just need Medlen, Hudson, Maholm and Minor to throw shutouts and the World Series trophy is ours.

Simple… as… that.

Puma

September 30th, 2012
12:42 am

Took a quick look, Meds pitched 3 innings in 2 games back in May vs StL, gave up 1 run in the 2 inning stint.

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
12:42 am

Since you must not have a computer available, Medlen pitched 3 games in relief against the Cardinals in May, 5/11-12-28…4 2/3 IP, 6 H, 3 ER – clearly, we are doomed, since we will score no runs…

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
12:44 am

Mitchell with his usual brilliant analysis, given that the Braves average 0.00034000567 runs oer game…

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
12:44 am

nolie

September 30th, 2012
12:45 am

Janish and Tyler might both make the roster for the play-in since some pitchers will be left off

Mixxo

September 30th, 2012
12:49 am

“Officially impossible to lose if the other team doesn’t score, in case that was still unclear….” – Mitchell

Thanks! :mrgreen:

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:49 am

Kris Medlen has pitched against the Cardinals in 5 games…. never started against them, however.

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
12:49 am

oops – slight miscalculation – the Braves average 4.3 runs per game – not that Mitchell has the mental dexterity to understand anything beyond his own myopic vision of his own myopic vision…

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:51 am

And of the Cardinals hitters who have faced him, they are a combined 4-25 .160/.160/.240/.400 with a triple and 2 RBI. 0 Walks vs. 5 Ks.

Beltran is 0-6 against him with a K and an RBI.

Puma

September 30th, 2012
12:52 am

I guess there isn’t much need for Janish on roster if Simmons healthy, since the defense is a wash between those two, a shame though, enjoyed watching him play.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:52 am

all numbers I posted are career… not just this year

nolie

September 30th, 2012
12:54 am

4.3694 actually ;)

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:56 am

LOL – No, V-Jim, just lazy tonight combined with spotty wi-fi. Actually, I think Medlen will twirl a shutout as a starter against the Cards, just aggravate them into submission. If they start Kyle Lohse, it may go into extras, tied 0-0. :-)

nolie

September 30th, 2012
12:56 am

unless Simmons goes down. no way they start Tyler at short, though they might Prado

Puma

September 30th, 2012
12:58 am

If Simmons does go down they can add Janish right?

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
12:58 am

Later, guys – given the unlikelihood of the Nats losing out, I will turn my attention to golf in the morning (where there is a strong unlikelihood that the US can screw it up)…

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
12:59 am

If Janish can play…

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
1:03 am

If your the Braves, I think you want the Cards to throw Lohse. We have over 100 combined ABs against each of their top 4 starters, and over 160 for him, Carpenter, and Wainwright. In fact, the Braves have the most ABs against Lohse. They’ve combined for a .320 avg. against Lohse, it’s under .270 for every other pitcher.

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
1:04 am

Try to keep students from using calculator unless necessary, I certainly will not (makes it easier when they complain about proper TI-84 usage graphing complicated functions – tell them they need to figure it out themselves)…

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
1:04 am

nolie

September 30th, 2012
1:06 am

no, your roster is set for each series, that’s why they often carry three catchers

murphy#3

September 30th, 2012
1:07 am

Who cares who we play. Let the chips fall where they may. It’s time to get focused and play like there is no tomorrow. If we play the way we can play, no one can touch us. We just have to stay FOCUSED ON THE PRIZE. GO BRAVES!!!!!!!!

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
1:08 am

Lohse: 3.52 ERA at Turner Field, 4 starts 4.97 ERA vs. Braves 10 starts

Garcia: 4.50 ERA at TF, 1 start 3.65 ERA vs. Braves 4 starts

Carpenter: 6.94 ERA at TF, 5 starts 6.04 ERA vs Braves 10 starts

Wainwright: 2.35 ERA at TF, 4 games, 3 starts 2.98 ERA vs Braves 10 games, 7 starts

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
1:09 am

One observation. Lately, Fredi has been giving Overbay & Baker almost every pinch hitting opp he could give when not giving it to Hinske. Juan Francisco has been invisible this month. Either Juan has been eating way too much, or he is deep in the doghouse. Just been a zero.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
1:09 am

Out guys, y’all take care. Peace.

Puma

September 30th, 2012
1:15 am

Noticed that too MiaBch, though Hinske had an at bat tonight.

Nolie – For some reason I thought they changed rule so that they could add a guy mid-series in case of injury, but maybe it was between series

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
1:29 am

Well, here’s hoping that Medlen breaks the record tomorrow in grand style. Couldn’t happen to a nicer dude, to say nothing of a very nice series win.

Since mid-June, Braves pitching has been nothing short of remarkable and amazing. Absolutely awesome!

Mitchell

September 30th, 2012
1:34 am

It’s really unbelievable to watch what the O’s and A’s have done this season.

Who would have picked either team to finish the season with a winning record let alone 90 plus wins?

It’s really disappointing to see how many teams each year, with seemingly nothing in their favor, so frequently shatter expectation like the O’s and A’s, the Nationals and consistently the Rays.

And yet the Braves are never better than what they are easily capable of and show no signs of evolving.

If you’ve seen them in person up close, and tonight in particular, you have ample evidence their offense is non-competitive and incapable.

You cannot score three runs in two games against Mets pitching on the eve of the playoffs.

Craig Kimbrel should not be making stress pitches at this point because Braves batters can’t do their jobs.

They’ve completely blown opportunity after opportunity to catch the Nats.

The fact that they were criticized for once by the media for celebrating a playoff clinching win and not for falling short of a division title for the seventh consecutive season says it all.

They should just admit defeat and do everything possible to prepare for the Cardinals and a game they will not win unless Kris Medlen is perfect.

haggard

September 30th, 2012
6:53 am

nolie

Hello Good Man. It is great to see you back, conversant, and rounding into playoff form!

Lee in S GA

September 30th, 2012
7:32 am

Nothing like waking up, logging on this blog and seeing a encouraging, motivational post like the one at 1:34 A.M. from Bitchell.

Ghost of Chipper Jones

September 30th, 2012
7:47 am

Mitchell:

Let’s get the win today, and see what happens. My guess is the NATS clinch today, but we should keep the pressure on them.

However under ANY circumstance, I would not let MEDS pitch beyond 80, unless he’s in the ninth. In fact, if it were not for the consecutive win record, I would give him a day off. He’s wearing down late in games his last two starts it seems to me. I don’t want a tired arm going into the play-in game.

KIMBREL should be ready to go, but if we’re out of the division race, I would not use him consistantly, game-in game-out.

BTW, I said the NATS would be the team we needed to beat like a tom-tom this season. Anybody care to guess where we’d be right now with the season’s record between us reversed?

UKUGA

September 30th, 2012
7:50 am

DOB, Thanks for your response @ 11:43 PM re: Chipper

Couch Tater

September 30th, 2012
7:51 am

May 1, 1995, SI

So how good are the BRAVES? They addressed their need for a leadoff hitter by acquiring one of the best in the game, Marquis Grissom, from the Expos. The pitching staff, anchored by three-time Cy Young winner Greg Maddux, appears to be as formidable as ever (now that Maddux is over the chicken pox). And sluggers Fred McGriff (34 homers in 1994), David Justice (19) and Ryan Klesko (17) seem ready to pick up where they left off. The only significant loss from ‘94 is third baseman Terry Pendleton, who signed with the Florida Marlins as a free agent. But taking Pendleton’s spot is rookie Chipper Jones, a player whom Atlanta manager Bobby Cox considers “the best athlete on the team.”

Jones, the No. 1 pick in the 1990 amateur draft, was a star shortstop in the minor leagues. With Jeff Blauser manning that position for the Braves, Jones was moved to leftfield last spring to get his bat (.325 and 13 home runs in Triple A in ‘93) into the lineup. But less than three weeks before the ‘94 season opener, Jones tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee and was sidelined for the year.

“I’m flattered that every time there’s a position open, I’m put in the mix.” says Jones, who last played third base nine years ago—in the Babe Ruth League. “I feel I can play all seven positions behind the pitcher; I have speed, a good arm and good range. Third base is more of a reaction position. I might be better at it. At Shortstop, the more I think, the more trouble I get into.”

Ghost of Chipper Jones

September 30th, 2012
7:53 am

Lee in S GA:

Thanx to another fan appreciative of HUDSON’s efforts.

For that matter, DAN UGGLA’s too. You can say his BA stinks, and that his fielding is average at best, but you can’t say he isn’t giving all he’s got. Or that he isn’t willing to adapt and learn.

brian_d

September 30th, 2012
7:59 am

Good morning Rich. I have appreciated your info and presence on the blog for four years or so. Thanks. How is your wife doing?

Ghost of Chipper Jones

September 30th, 2012
8:07 am

Couch tater:

Thanx man.”…… The more I think the more trouble i get into…..” That quote goes right to my grandson today. His main problem regarding hitting in my estimation.

My take, “remember more, think less.”

His younger brother is a “see the ball, hit the ball” type of player, but much less disciplined unfortunately.

Ghost of Chipper Jones

September 30th, 2012
8:11 am

brien d:

Thanx for asking. Unfortunately, pretty much the same. We found a second cousin with a similar problem last night. We knew the young lady had problems over the past twenty years, but didn’t know what it was. Evidently it’s in her father’s family.

brian_d

September 30th, 2012
8:15 am

You two have been in my prayers this morning. Take care. I am off to work.

Ghost of Chipper Jones

September 30th, 2012
8:15 am

O.K. feed-bag time and yard-work. I don’t mind planning and creating outside, but maintenance at which my better half excels, is a drudge as far as I’m concerned.

SeaAtl

September 30th, 2012
8:18 am

Any special or “weird” parking situation for the game today or can I just drive down and pay to park in a lot?

jeffrey d

September 30th, 2012
8:18 am

Everybody has to back in today

Brian from SC

September 30th, 2012
8:20 am

Washington clinches the NL East today with a win or a loss by the Braves. Over in the AL, still no team has clinched even a playoff spot, but several are close. In fact, it’s possible today that all AL playoff teams except the AL Central winner will have clinched a spot.

Texas clinches today by beating the Angels in either one of their two double-header games. New York and Baltimore are now tied atop the AL East, and that one’s going down to the wire. Either one of them would clinch a playoff spot today with a win and a loss by the Angels. Or they both would clinch if Texas sweeps the double header from the Angels. Finally, Oakland would clinch a playoff spot with a win and a sweep by Texas.
Also of note: Texas would clinch the AL West with a sweep and a loss by Oakland.

Got all that? Here are the updated magic numbers:

NL East – Washington – 1
NL Central – Cincinnati – clinched
NL West – San Francisco – clinched

NL Playoffs (relative to Los Angeles)
Washington – clinched
Cincinnati – clinched
San Francisco – clinched
Atlanta – clinched
St. Louis – 3

NL #1 seed – Washington – 3 (relative to Cincinnati)
NL #1 wild card – Atlanta – clinched

AL East – New York/Baltimore – 5
AL Central – Detroit – 3
AL West – Texas – 3

AL Playoffs (relative to Los Angeles)
Texas – 1
New York – 2
Baltimore – 2
Oakland – 3
Detroit – 3 (relative to Chicago for division)

AL #1 seed – Texas – 4
AL #1 wild card – New York/Baltimore – 4

Couch Tater

September 30th, 2012
8:23 am

Richbrave – I have the same problem with the putter.

…so, I shouldn’t talk about it. or, think about it. My mechanics are good. It’s a big cup. No problem. It’s only $2. Why I am I sweating? Where’s my xanax? It’s not a heart attack. Flange says, “It’s easy.” Biotch.

Brian from SC

September 30th, 2012
8:25 am

The only elimination that happened yesterday was Detroit being eliminated from AL wild card contention. As we’ve suspected for a while, they now officially only have hope of winning the AL Central. They do have control there.

Milwaukee is finally eliminated if they lose today, or if St. Louis wins. Tampa Bay would be eliminated from the playoffs today with a loss and a win by Oakland. The Angels would be eliminated with 2 double-header losses and a win by Oakland.

Here are the updated elimination numbers:

NL Playoffs (relative to St. Louis)
Los Angeles – 3
Milwaukee – 1

AL Playoffs (relative to Oakland)
Los Angeles – 3
Chicago – 3 (relative to Detroit for division)
Tampa Bay – 2

Brian from SC

September 30th, 2012
8:26 am

Slight correction to above:

For Oakland to clinch a playoff spot today they need a win, 2 losses by the Angels, AND a loss by Tampa Bay.

Couch Tater

September 30th, 2012
8:33 am

Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Think about something else.

October 16, 1995, SI, Tim Kurkjian.

Jones ended the [NLDS] series batting .389 with four RBIs and three standout defensive plays, despite playing with a sore left knee and an aching back.

It was a performance that was in keeping with his regular season, for which he should be awarded National League Rookie of the Year honors next month. Hitting third most of the season, Jones belted 23 homers and drove in 86 runs. “Every time I see him he impresses me more,” says Rocky shortstop Walt Weiss.

Efrim

September 30th, 2012
9:25 am

Since his high OPS mark of the 2nd Half at end of play on August 26th – .279/.353/.509 – Jason Heyward has hit .220/.262/.364 with 3 HR’s, 11 RBI, 7 BB’s, 23 K’s, in 30 games, 126 Plate Appearances.

A simply awful end to an otherwise strong, bounce back season from Heyward.

Efrim

September 30th, 2012
9:29 am

Braves are 9th in team OPS in teh National League. 11th in the 2nd Half. And in September, they’ve hit .229/.302/.335 as a team scoring 90 runs in 26 games. They are 15th in OPS during the month of September.

Jeff R

September 30th, 2012
9:29 am

A simply awful end to an otherwise strong, bounce back season from Heyward.

Yes, but as you said, marked progress. Very encouraging.

Couch Tater

September 30th, 2012
9:31 am

GET up!! This is it. Last day. Last day at Turner. Tribute time…

October 4, 1999, Tom Verducci.

On the first day of spring training this year in Kissimmee, Fla., Don Baylor, the new Atlanta Braves hitting coach, introduced himself to switch-hitting third baseman Chipper Jones the way a double espresso does to your synapses first thing in the morning. “Tell me your philosophy of hitting,” Baylor said.

“Have good at bats, hit .300 from both sides of the plate and get runners in from scoring position,” Jones, a three-time All-Star, said proudly.

“Bulls—-,” Baylor barked. “You hit third for the best team in the National League, and I expect you to drive the ball out of the park.”

So much for “Howdy” and a firm handshake. Later, when a lefthanded batting practice pitcher didn’t show, Jones left the cage after hitting left-handed. “Hey,” Baylor said, “where do you think you’re going? You aren’t leaving until you hit righthanded.”

That night Jones went to his parents’ home in Pierson, about a hundred miles from Kissimmee, walked in and announced, practically before the door had closed behind him, “The worm has turned, Dad. The worm has turned.”

Thus began a season of change and growth for Jones, 27, who knew he was in for a lesson in plate tectonics.

ncbravesfan90

September 30th, 2012
9:31 am

“Braves are 9th in team OPS in teh National League. 11th in the 2nd Half. And in September, they’ve hit .229/.302/.335 as a team scoring 90 runs in 26 games. They are 15th in OPS during the month of September.”

And this is why a one game play in game makes for everyone to be very nervous, or should be.

Jeff R

September 30th, 2012
9:34 am

It took the Nats ten innings to polish off the Cards last night. The Nats aren’t quite the juggernaut they were a short while ago. I think the Cards win today.

jeffrey d

September 30th, 2012
9:35 am

If we should be “nervous” because of the offense, can’t we be optimistic about because of the pitching? 1st in ERA since the break, including leading the league in CG and shutouts

Jeff R

September 30th, 2012
9:36 am

Chipper’s got three at PNC Park to close the season and his career. Wonder how much he plays in Pittsburgh, and wonder what his send off will be like there?

Jeff R

September 30th, 2012
9:38 am

If we should be “nervous” because of the offense, can’t we be optimistic about because of the pitching? 1st in ERA since the break, including leading the league in CG and shutouts

Very optimistic. The post season is where pitching really counts. The Braves have the guns. Medlen is the man next Friday versus the Cards (in all likelihood).

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
9:41 am

Efrim: It may be a horrible ending to the season, but I’m glad that he didn’t hit .220 all year. Same with Hanson. I’m happy that he had at least a decent finish.

Ghost of Chipper Jones

September 30th, 2012
9:43 am

Looking at HANK AARON in the article picture, I can’t see anything other than a man who did all things baseball just as CHIPPER JONES did…..the right way.

Looks to my mind, the passing of the BRAVES banner from one of the greatest ball-players ever to another great who will represent the BRAVES in the game of baseball with as much dignity as ‘Hammerin’ HANK” has.

Jeff R

September 30th, 2012
9:45 am

70% chance of rain in Pittsburgh on Tuesday. 30% chance on Wednesday.

Ghost of Chipper Jones

September 30th, 2012
9:48 am

Couch Tater:

I’ve been saying what you intimated with ‘the worm has turned’ since the day he left the BRAVES.

Jeff R

September 30th, 2012
9:49 am

No Braves’ starting pitcher will achieve 200 innings this season. Interesting.

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
9:49 am

Couch Tater_

Thanks for posting those old articles. I’m enjoying reading them.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
9:50 am

Mark Bowman ‏@mlbbowman
With the magic # at 1, Braves might want to pull for the Nats today and hope Cards have 2 play 1 game w/ LA to determine who comes to ATL

Been doing so for a few days. We need the Cards to cool off and struggle a bit. Dodgers are 2 games back.

Jeff R

September 30th, 2012
9:52 am

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if the O’s win the AL East?

Ghost of Chipper Jones

September 30th, 2012
9:56 am

I’m focused on today’s game against the METS. I’ll worry about the Orios and Jokers later.

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
9:57 am

I haven’t looked for any evidence but it seems to me Heyward has been hitting a lot of ground balls for the last month or so.

Ghost of Chipper Jones

September 30th, 2012
9:57 am

Danged CARDS are nothing but a bunch of jokers anyway.

Jeff R

September 30th, 2012
9:58 am

Braves’ strikeouts leader, Tommy Hanson – 155.

And Dan Uggla has struck out (164) more than Hanson threw strikeouts.

Ghost of Chipper Jones

September 30th, 2012
9:58 am

Time for another adjustment in his ongoing developmental hitting saga.

Ghost of Chipper Jones

September 30th, 2012
9:59 am

HANSON:

Stamina over stuff

Ghost of Chipper Jones

September 30th, 2012
10:00 am

Down and gone. Good luck today BRAVES. Crush ‘um.

Jeff R

September 30th, 2012
10:02 am

Stingy Craig Kimbrel has given up three homers this season. Those hitters should receive certificates.

Jeff R

September 30th, 2012
10:03 am

See ya, Ghost.

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
10:06 am

I would have bet Ward’s life Heyward would not hit .220 this year, TOBF.

Couch Tater

September 30th, 2012
10:18 am

Wonder how much he plays in Pittsburgh, and wonder what his send off will be like there?

He should receive an immaculate reception.

Couch Tater

September 30th, 2012
10:35 am

Your welcome, Bat.

Who can leave out the toes? July 11, 2005…

Chipper Jones, Atlanta’s third baseman and mainstay slugger, went on the disabled list with an injured toe ligament on June 6. Five days later the Braves’ second Jones for the past nine seasons metamorphosed into the Second Coming–in a metaphoric way, of course. From June 11 through last Sunday and despite hitting virtually naked in the lineup, he did not go more than 13 at bats without a home run. In 22 games he had 14 homers, 30 RBIs, a .329 batting average and a mere 13 strikeouts in 98 plate appearances. He was leading the majors in homers, with 26, which helped earn the 28-year-old Jones his fourth All-Star Game appearance

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
10:39 am

Atlanta Braves ‏@Braves
Today’s lineup vs. NYM (1:35, FSS/680AM/BRN): Contanza 8 Prado 7 Heyward 9 Jones 5 Freeman 3 Uggla 4 Ross 2 Simmons 6 Medlen 1

And the Braves hoped Bourn would be back today… Don’t slide headfirst folks!!! I guess he will need to play all 3 in Pittsburgh,

74bravesjersey

September 30th, 2012
10:51 am

Hey Couch Tater; awesome Digs on the reads man, Don Baylor did come to mind in part of chipper’s switch hitt’n transformation, hope he was able to give some thanx to ‘em for giving him xtra tutiledge back yonder. & I enjoyed see’n the ‘82 Braves get together, man what memories, Niekro, Murph, Horner, Geno, & Benedict, & them sharing time w/ Pete van weren(Dang, been so long, correct me if I’d spelled Pete’s name wrong. See’n some old footages never gets old. O’ Horner hitt’n 4 hr’s against expos, priceless, wished they’d showed Geno strik’n out rose toend his 44 game hitt’n streak, man that was tight. That o’l Geno delivery, awesome memories.

74bravesjersey

September 30th, 2012
10:55 am

Would anyone know where you can find the old footage video of the ‘82 braves, it’s a long way to October, or video, Tale of 2 seasons, if anybody knows where to find these, if they had these on ytube or Google, be nice to see, let me know, I’ll be looking.

Couch Tater

September 30th, 2012
11:29 am

Murray Chass, September 24, 1999. LA rry LA rry…

The main question raised by Jones’s one-man onslaught was about the wisdom the Mets displayed in continuing to challenge Jones instead of telling him to pass the batter’s box and go directly from the on-deck circle to first base without collecting $200, or a playoff share.

”That’s easy to say now,” Dave Wallace, the Mets’ pitching coach, said.

Walk Chipper Jones? Not me, said Orel Hershiser, who threw the home run pitch in Wednesday night’s game. ”That was very early in the game,” Hershiser said of the first-inning, first-base-open situation. ”It’s not the time you win or lose games.”

Walk Chipper Jones? Not me, said Al Leiter, who threw yesterday’s home run pitch. ”I’m not going to walk him unless someone tells me to walk him to load the bases,” Leiter said.

Kat

September 30th, 2012
11:31 am

DOB @ 11:43 pm

How much will Chipper play in Pittsburgh? — UKUGA

If Nats clinch, would expect Chipper to rest all or most of Pittsburgh series.

Hope he pinch hits at least. I know some fans flying from Atl hoping to see him play his last reg season game in Pitt. I’m driving 8hrs but coming that far from Atl, that’d stink to not see him ever get to the plate. But whatever is needed to get us the best Chipper for the WC game is what Fredi has to do.

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
11:48 am

A couple of more days off for Bourn, with a pinch-hitting appearance on Tuesday, and a full game on Wed., should be just the ticket.

However, I would not waste a penny on this guy as a free agent signing.

Couch Tater

September 30th, 2012
11:50 am

Jack Curry, New York Times, June 15, 2008.

“Anybody who has hit .400 for this long will tell you that you don’t hit this well without a little bit of luck,” Jones said. “That being said, I’m no Ted Williams.”

For now, he is. Jones is batting .409, after going 0 for 3 on Saturday, a number that put him in a different stratosphere from every other major leaguer. Jones has always been a productive switch-hitter, a player with such a sweet swing that teammates gush about it the way they gush about a signing bonus. He looks the way a hitter should: balanced, patient, confident.

George_George

September 30th, 2012
11:51 am

nolie

September 30th, 2012
1:06 am
no, your roster is set for each series, that’s why they often carry three catchers
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Good morning all
Back in the day, during the regular season most teams carryed 4 starters, 1 swing guy who could start or releave, 5 relievers, 15 postion players including 3 cathers, THOSE WERE THE DAYS No wimps then.

bravofan

September 30th, 2012
11:53 am

What’s the latest on Janish?

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
11:55 am

No wimps then

Who are the wimps to whom you refer?

Kat

September 30th, 2012
11:56 am

From Twitter… ‏@JimBowdenESPNxm Schuerholz just told us that Chipper Jones is going to take year off but knows when he wants to put the uniform back on he knows who to call

Efrim

September 30th, 2012
11:56 am

I haven’t looked for any evidence but it seems to me Heyward has been hitting a lot of ground balls for the last month or so.

I remember his awful May – didn’t really see many groundballs to the right side of the diamond. Just seemed like he was hitting into bad luck.

I think this recent stretch has been his worst of the season. Just a terrible approach at the plate.

jeffrey d

September 30th, 2012
11:57 am

Russell Bell

September 30th, 2012
12:02 pm

No wimps then

Back when men were men, and women stayed in the kitchen, and only white people got into fancy restaurants, and jobs weren’t outsourced, and we knew who our enemies were (looking at you Russia), and Sunday was the Lord’s day, and…

jeffrey d

September 30th, 2012
12:03 pm

Back when men were men, and women stayed in the kitchen, and only white people got into fancy restaurants, and jobs weren’t outsourced, and we knew who our enemies were (looking at you Russia), and Sunday was the Lord’s day, and…

George went to work 24/7, inluding the Christmas morning when is hair was on fire.

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
12:05 pm

Bubba not a wimp, letting the crowd roar as he tees off (and, unfortunately, goes way right)…

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:06 pm

Kevin McAlpin ‏@KevinMcAlpin
Craig Kimbrel enters with 113 strikeouts in 61.1 IP. NO ONE has ever averaged the 16.6 K’s per 9 that Kimbrel has this season. #Braves

Trey

September 30th, 2012
12:06 pm

“George went to work 24/7, inluding the Christmas morning when is hair was on fire.”

Gosh, only 24/7? I wish I had a job where I barely had to work……

nolie

September 30th, 2012
12:07 pm

and John Wayne was the man’s man….

George_George

September 30th, 2012
12:07 pm

MEDS is in very good company with WHITEY FORD and CARL HUBBELL. I have seen WHITEY pitch live CARL was before my time, but heard of him.

nolie

September 30th, 2012
12:09 pm

and we had to walk ten miles to school every day in the sleet and snow…uphill both ways

haggard

September 30th, 2012
12:09 pm

Couch Tater

That’s some good reading. Thanks.

Trey

September 30th, 2012
12:11 pm

Don’t forget barefoot, nolie. Of course, ya couldn’t forget that, once you get frostbite.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:11 pm

Kevin McAlpin ‏@KevinMcAlpin
Craig Kimbrel is holding opponents to a .124 avg, the lowest since 1900. His .357 OPS is the lowest in the Expansion Era. #Braves

Kimbrel for Cy Young!!!

jeffrey d

September 30th, 2012
12:11 pm

and we had to walk ten miles to school every day in the sleet and snow…uphill both ways

Nowadays there’s bus stops at adjacent driveways….it’s pretty annoying

George_George

September 30th, 2012
12:12 pm

Starting pitchers finished a lot more of what they started and it did not hurt them, Managers had a longer bench to work with. BTW nolie have you read any if LEE CHILDS books? He is very good.

haggard

September 30th, 2012
12:15 pm

nolie

And no iPod, either. Only the sound of sockless feet, crunching in the knee deep snow, sliding across the frozen creek.

Lew

September 30th, 2012
12:15 pm

George-George – Jack Reacher is a bad ass.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:15 pm

Uggla hitting .291/.387/.456/.843 this month, with only 2 HR and 7 doubles though…. 13 RBI, and 13 BB vs. 16 Ks. He needs 1 more HR to have 7 consecutive seasons of 20+ HR

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
12:15 pm

Wow, Rory was confused about his tee time – heard it on TV in EDT, not CDT…arrives with only 15 minutes to spare…

nolie

September 30th, 2012
12:16 pm

yeah I have read all the Reacher novels George

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
12:16 pm

David O’Brien ‏@ajcbraves
Michael Bourn will bat leadoff and play Center field today. #Braves just announced lineup change. Returns for first time since Sat 9/22

jeffrey d

September 30th, 2012
12:16 pm

And no iPod, either

Here’s where I can’t participate anymore. I went to school with a CD player. And thought I was hot stuff with it too.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:16 pm

Atlanta Braves ‏@Braves
Lineup change: Bourn will now play CF and lead off.

Yes! He’s back. No Georgie in CF is a good thing too…

nolie

September 30th, 2012
12:17 pm

gee if only Dan could do that every month….

Kat

September 30th, 2012
12:17 pm

Bourn is back in the lineup!

George_George

September 30th, 2012
12:20 pm

Kat

September 30th, 2012
11:56 am
From Twitter… ‏@JimBowdenESPNxm Schuerholz just told us that Chipper Jones is going to take year off but knows when he wants to put the uniform back on he knows who to call
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That is very good news. I thought they would offer him something. I would kind of like to see him in TV booth, he speaks well.

nolie

September 30th, 2012
12:21 pm

truth is that when I went to school there were no shorts, no jeans, no collarless shirts, and no appliances of any kind other than a slide rule.

haggard

September 30th, 2012
12:22 pm

In honor of nolie’s triumphant return, I’m off to Publix for the Italian. Go Braves.

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:23 pm

Well, the Cards got the best of us in 82, and they took us handily in an NLDS early in the last decade, so reflecting on the 82 Braves team is bad karma.

Back in the mid-90’s, we stole one from the Cards on a way to a WS berth. THAT is what I’d rather focus on. That, and Medlen twirling a sparkling gem against those pretenders from the Midwest next Friday.

I am gonna take the afternoon OFF, don my real-deal (not actual, just authentic) Dale Murphy road jersey and matching cap, get my food and drink ON, and watch the Braves send the Cards to Hell.

George_George

September 30th, 2012
12:24 pm

Lew

September 30th, 2012
12:15 pm
George-George – Jack Reacher is a bad ass.

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Yup I am just finishing his newest. Did you know Lee is a very big baseball fan?, that is part of the reason he moved to this country.

Ghost of Chipper Jones

September 30th, 2012
12:25 pm

MEDS be excellent. BRAVES win, and make the NATS take this thing. Don’t give them nuthin’

Lew

September 30th, 2012
12:26 pm

George – Schuerholz was not serious. Chipper is not going to take a year off and come back at age 42.

jeffrey d

September 30th, 2012
12:28 pm

Lew – I thought he meant as a coach

Kat

September 30th, 2012
12:31 pm

Lew- I think he meant as a staff member not player.

George_George

September 30th, 2012
12:31 pm

Lew

September 30th, 2012
12:26 pm
Of course he will not play again but like Hank he will do stuff for BRAVES.

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
12:31 pm

Lew – I think he meant as a hot dog vendor…

nolie

September 30th, 2012
12:32 pm

perhaps as hitting coach, but that would likely be more than just one year, unless his kids drive him crazy like they can do ;)

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:33 pm

Maybe Chipper can replace that loud usher…

jeffrey d

September 30th, 2012
12:33 pm

Why would Chipper have to wear his uniform to be a hotdog vendor? Come on, Jim….

George_George

September 30th, 2012
12:35 pm

Repost from bottom of last page.
George_George

September 30th, 2012
12:24 pm
Lew

September 30th, 2012
12:15 pm
George-George – Jack Reacher is a bad ass.

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Yup I am just finishing his newest. Did you know Lee is a very big baseball fan?, that is part of the reason he moved to this country.

Lew

September 30th, 2012
12:37 pm

I’m betting that it will be more than a year before Chipper becomes a Coach. Chipper’s got four kids and lots of Little League games to go to.

George_George

September 30th, 2012
12:41 pm

Did NATS lose? Are we still alive in division race?

jeffrey d

September 30th, 2012
12:44 pm

No, the Nats didn’t lose, but yes, were still alive in the division race. Nats’ magic number is 1, I believe

George_George

September 30th, 2012
12:47 pm

Thanks jeffery. I just looked , now we must win all and they must lose all.

jeffrey d

September 30th, 2012
12:49 pm

now we must win all and they must lose all

Not likely, but I’ll still pull for it. They’ve got 1 game against the still not clinched Cards and 3 against the Phillies who’ve been great the 2nd half (although will be without Howard)

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:51 pm

Am I to assume that the Curds-gNats game is the one TBS is showing this afternoon?

jeffrey d

September 30th, 2012
12:52 pm

They’re playing Rays/White Sox

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:55 pm

Does anyone in either league have a better rotation going than Medlen, Hudson, Minor, & Maholm?

Nope.

George_George

September 30th, 2012
12:56 pm

Outta here to take Peanut for walk before gametime. Have a good one all.

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:57 pm

It’s almost impossible, but I am rooting for the Rays to sneak in. Too bad they got hot too late.

Mixxo

September 30th, 2012
12:58 pm

“Does anyone in either league have a better rotation going than Medlen, Hudson, Minor, & Maholm?”

I don’t think so.

If we could find some consistent offense right now….we’d be dangerous.

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
12:58 pm

CB_

You’re a Panthers fan, right?

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:59 pm

Four orders of the Braves’ Sweep / gNats collapse coming right up!!!

George_George

September 30th, 2012
12:59 pm

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:55 pm
Does anyone in either league have a better rotation going than Medlen, Hudson, Minor, & Maholm?

Nope.

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You are right MINOR has really developed, with that rotation next year I will have to adjust my perdiction for next year well upwards from the 70 wins I perdicted.

ncbravesfan90

September 30th, 2012
1:00 pm

Traffic has to be a nightmare in the Metro Atlanta area right now 51,000 going to Turner Field and 60,000+ headed to the Georgia Dome for the Falcons, only minutes from each other and both games start within 30 minutes of each other.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
1:00 pm

70 wins? Geez….

George_George

September 30th, 2012
1:02 pm

BELIEVE IN THE MEDS.

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
1:12 pm

And folks, Gilmartin WILL be the next Minor. Given the prospect for the healthy return of Beachy late next year, a package of Hanson and a couple of other arms that are not Delgado, Teheran, or Gilmartin, should entice the pitching-neady Twins to let go of Willingham for next year.

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
1:16 pm

Or go hard after Cody Ross. I’d rather have Ross in LF, Prado at 3B, and Costanza in CF than waste tons of money on Bourn. The Red Sox will not re-sign Ross.

Couch Tater

September 30th, 2012
1:22 pm

Most of you will remember this, but it’s still funny. From Jon Sciambi, February 23, 2010…

I went on to ask why he’d swing at so many first pitches when the numbers suggest it’s not a great play. Chipper explained that the first pitch is often the only time he’ll get a “heater” the entire at-bat. “OK,” I say, “but clearly, mathematically, factually, you’re not getting a ton of strikes.” We go round and round for a bit without concession on either side and eventually I go upstairs to broadcast the game.

Fast forward to the top of the first. San Diego’s Tim Stauffer on the mound. Chipper digs in� and takes a 91-mph fastball right down the middle. He steps out of the box, finds our broadcast booth with those great eyes and, well, here’s what follows:

The photo is priceless..
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=10101

CB

September 30th, 2012
1:23 pm

Bat,just caught up with the blog. Yes,I am.

David O'Brien

September 30th, 2012
1:26 pm

For as bad as his season has been Uggla still ranks third in the majors in two-out RBIs with 44, trailing only Miguel Cabrera (47) and Andre Ethier (45). And Freeman is sixth in the majors with 42. So two out of the top six are Braves, only team with two that high. Which makes the Braves’ majors-worst RISP average all the more strange.

ncbravesfan90

September 30th, 2012
1:28 pm

Dang you can’t hit anybody anymore in football, geez!!

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
1:31 pm

That story and picture were HILARIOUS!!!

Capt.Mudd

September 30th, 2012
1:31 pm

Blog later but want to say hello to all……I’m just going to take in the first 3-4 frames via visual only.

brian

September 30th, 2012
1:32 pm

Great intro of chipper.

brian

September 30th, 2012
1:34 pm

Amen to this blog’s title. Do not go cruise control. Go hard and play good baseball going to the post season. After last year I would have worried that the Braves would have been happy just making the playoffs, but with this being Chipper’s last year, that is ample motivation for the desire to win it all

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
1:37 pm

With patient at-bats leading to many walks and an early/mid-season surge in OBP, the Bravos had tons of people in scoring position throughout the season. The lack of a legit lynchpin power bat made every player in this lineup think they had to do The Job. As I have said many times before, Heyward and Freeman are not ready to carry a team just yet; as for Uggla on down, there is not one player on this team that is a legit MVP-caliber run-producer. A sad fact that hopefully will be overwritten by stellar pitching, possibly the best in either league.

David O'Brien

September 30th, 2012
1:38 pm

Chipper with the sunglasses backward on hat, if not covering the eyes then never, ever covering the “A.” The way Bobby Cox taught him and the Braves.

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
1:40 pm

CB _

Thought so. I get the Falcons down here for a change so get to watch. Hopefully it will be a good game.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
1:46 pm

Chipper still has the D

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
1:46 pm

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
1:47 pm

and Costanza in CF

Why do people keep saying this. Biff is not good enough on defense to play CF everyday. BAS checked and said he did not even play there regularly in AAA

Sopheee

September 30th, 2012
1:47 pm

Chipper going all out.

Glavine cracked me up with his quip about FoxTrax. Ha.

Tomahawk Mafia

September 30th, 2012
1:48 pm

Chipper made a couple of nice plays in the first inning. I would love to see him bang out 5 hits today as well. He needs to break out of that slump and lead the Braves to a victory in his last game at home.

Tomahawk Mafia

September 30th, 2012
1:50 pm

Bat Masterson

You can say that again, Constanza has no business playing center field anywhere. His routes are pretty bad.

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
1:54 pm

I mentioned the other day about re-signing Reed Johnson, who could split time with Costanza in CF in a platoon. No one in the world will convince me that Bourn is worth anywhere even close to the money some team will pay him this winter. If it is the Braves, I will be SORELY disappointed.

Tomahawk Mafia

September 30th, 2012
1:54 pm

Poor Jason and his weak grounders to the right side.

Kat

September 30th, 2012
1:56 pm

Crazy how slow the blog is today on Chipper’s last reg season game at the Ted.

Sopheee

September 30th, 2012
2:00 pm

This ump is annoying.

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
2:00 pm

Tater @ 1:22

Ha, love that one.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
2:01 pm

You can say that again, Constanza has no business playing center field anywhere.

Not just the centerfield, make that the whole outfield! :lol:

Tomahawk Mafia

September 30th, 2012
2:03 pm

TheOnlyBravesFan

Haha. He is servicable in left field once or twice a week.

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
2:04 pm

Miami if Biff were to be the regular CFer for Atlanta next year I would hire Tonya to remedy that mistake.

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
2:07 pm

Nice job, FF!!!

Brava

September 30th, 2012
2:07 pm

Good job Freddie!

BFChris28

September 30th, 2012
2:07 pm

Freddie!!!!!!!!!

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
2:08 pm

All right, nice start.

Get ‘em in, dan

Tomahawk Mafia

September 30th, 2012
2:11 pm

Uggla hit that ball hard, but to one of the few places where neither run could advance.

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
2:11 pm

ROSSYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Animus

September 30th, 2012
2:11 pm

Mr. Ross – nice :)

Brava

September 30th, 2012
2:11 pm

Rossy with da BOMB!!!!!!

MIBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
2:11 pm

Good job, Rossy!!!

BFChris28

September 30th, 2012
2:11 pm

Rossy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cabravesfan

September 30th, 2012
2:12 pm

ROSSY!!!!!!!

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
2:12 pm

Great hit Rossy

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
2:12 pm

Atta boy, David

Tomahawk Mafia

September 30th, 2012
2:13 pm

Ross drilled that one. What a shot.

Animus

September 30th, 2012
2:14 pm

29 HRs from the catchers this year – nice to have a quality backup in Ross.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
2:15 pm

Ross is sure helping his cause for a few Postseason starts….

As for Biff starting in CF, you may as well use Rev out there… Heck, throw me out there! :D You’d get the same level of defense

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
2:16 pm

Mark Bowman ‏@mlbbowman
Ross’ three-run HR gives the Braves a 3-0 lead. He has two of his nine HRs in his past 13 ABs

abeeeewright

September 30th, 2012
2:16 pm

Looking at the second WC, I’m kind of hoping that Dodgers come back to force a 1-game playoff in LA. Cards have three left against the Reds. Dodgers have three left against the Giants.

I wouldn’t completely rule out the chance that Cards go 0-4 to end the season and leave the Brewers with a tiny window to get into a tie.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
2:18 pm

Hoss is putting on a defensive clinic

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
2:18 pm

Great timing on interviewing Mom…

Kat

September 30th, 2012
2:18 pm

Nice bomb by D Ross. (Little late on my comment was preoccupied)

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
2:24 pm

That was sloppy…

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
2:24 pm

Freddie rushed that throw.

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
2:25 pm

Come on guys, there’s a record on the line here

T-Dawg

September 30th, 2012
2:25 pm

Errors starting to pile up

Tomahawk Mafia

September 30th, 2012
2:26 pm

It seems like Freeman’s defense has been a bit rough this month. 12 errors at first base is a few too many.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
2:32 pm

It seems like Freeman’s defense has been a bit rough this month. 12 errors at first base is a few too many.

Especially considering he had only 6 errors last year. He’s played in 13 fewer games this season. Just an anomaly, I hope.

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
2:34 pm

Adam Kilgore ‏@AdamKilgoreWP
Nats waste Werth’s leadoff double after a hard grounder to third by Zimmerman, swinging strikeout by LaRoche. Meantime, Braves lead 3-1 now.

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
2:34 pm

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN
Brett Lawrie blasts a two-run homer; Toronto ahead of NY 4-1. Meanwhile, the O’s are up 5-0.

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
2:35 pm

Way to go, CJ!!!

MIBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
2:35 pm

Yeah, Chipper!!

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
2:35 pm

Nice hit for Chipper, #2725. Moved past Alomar, 5th all time for switchhitters, 57th all time.

Let’s go Freeman!

Tomahawk Mafia

September 30th, 2012
2:36 pm

Seems to me that was a bouncer up the middle, but Chip Carey called it as a line drive. Odd.

Kat

September 30th, 2012
2:36 pm

Nice base hit here Freddie.. let’s drive in some runs.

Tomahawk Mafia

September 30th, 2012
2:47 pm

Medlen is looking good, but the Braves need another run or two.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
2:50 pm

Only want them to score 1 more run… I want Kimbrel to get the save, and he needs 2 more scoreless outings to have an ERA under 1.00

Tomahawk Mafia

September 30th, 2012
2:58 pm

The number of comments during the game on this blog have really decreased since the college football and NFL seasons began.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
3:02 pm

Freddie threw that one properly.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
3:03 pm

Me like…

Mark Zuckerman ‏@MarkZuckerman
Now Jay delivers a 2-out RBI single to LF. #Nats trail 3-0 in 2nd, Detwiler already at 53 pitches.

THawk: Just wait til the playin… it’ll be wild.

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
3:04 pm

Adam Kilgore ‏@AdamKilgoreWP
Kozman smokes a triple to right. Espinosa’s bullet relay throw saves one run, gets an out. 2-0, Cards. What a TERRIBLE send.
A great throw by Espinosa. I cannot get over that send. What’s wrong with second and third, no outs? Huge break for the Nats.

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
3:05 pm

Beltran HR – 5-0…

Kat

September 30th, 2012
3:05 pm

From Twitter: @tedcahill One thing that’s being watched in the Braves clubhouse is the strikeout race between Kimbrel and Medlen. Medlen leads 119-113 right now.

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
3:05 pm

Thomas Boswell ‏@ThomasBoswellWP
If Detwiler can’t keep composure better than last 2 starts (goes 3-2 to No.8 hitter w bases loaded, gives up 2-run =9) Oct looks less bright

MIBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
3:06 pm

Welcome back, Michael!

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
3:06 pm

Way to avoid having to slide…

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
3:09 pm

Come on, Jason. No Willie Mays Hayes ground ball bs here, okay

Fredo

September 30th, 2012
3:10 pm

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
3:10 pm

Kat

September 30th, 2012
3:11 pm

Nice AB Jason!

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
3:11 pm

There’s the 1. Score no more!

MIBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
3:11 pm

Well done, JHey!

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
3:12 pm

Okay, then. Good job

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
3:13 pm

I’d appreciate a Chipper RBI before heading to work…

abeeeewright

September 30th, 2012
3:13 pm

Meds is poised for a pretty big chunk of ML history if this scores holds up.

Although the “consecutive games won by your team in which you started” feels a little contrived, it’s hard to argue with “specialness” when your team has won nearly 1/8 of a season when you take the mound.

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
3:13 pm

Adam Kilgore ‏@AdamKilgoreWP
Five Ks for the first Nats’ 9 hitters. Doesn’t the hangover game come AFTER the champagne?

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
3:14 pm

Enjoy the rest of the game, good blogspeople!

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
3:15 pm

Come on, Freddie. Be the ball

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
3:16 pm

Tom Hart ‏@tom_hart
Chipper will take tomorrow off, spend the time working on his swing.

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
3:17 pm

Brian from SC

September 30th, 2012
3:17 pm

Will they give him one more trip to the plate? I would send a defensive sub out for him sometime and give the crowd a chance to show their appreciation one more time.

Brian from SC

September 30th, 2012
3:21 pm

Meds is taking it so easy, I might give him one more inning.

Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)

September 30th, 2012
3:22 pm

BALLGAME! Medlen’s streak lives on……..

Fredo

September 30th, 2012
3:25 pm

toronto! what the heck!! lettin the yankees tie like that …….

Brava

September 30th, 2012
3:25 pm

Dang. That was weird. Uggs must have a hard head. :)

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
3:25 pm

Stop hitting Uggla in the head, people.

JC Brave

September 30th, 2012
3:26 pm

WSH is losing, don’t F this one up, Braves!

Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)

September 30th, 2012
3:28 pm

Medlen’s other streak, ten straight quality starts and twelve consecutive starts of three earned runs or less……..damn impressive, yes he is!

Brian from SC

September 30th, 2012
3:28 pm

Nice rope by Andrelton.

Brava

September 30th, 2012
3:28 pm

WTG, Simmons!!!!

MIBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
3:28 pm

Way to go, Simmons!

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
3:28 pm

No Kimbrel today, it seems. Meds streak looks to continue.

Brian from SC

September 30th, 2012
3:29 pm

Still reminds me of Francoeur up there at the plate. If Frenchy were a stud defensive SS instead of a corner outfielder, he’d be an All-Star. And Andrelton will be that.

JC Brave

September 30th, 2012
3:29 pm

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
3:29 pm

Atta boy, Simmons

Brian from SC

September 30th, 2012
3:30 pm

Let Chipper hit one more time. If he gets one, pinch run. If not, defensive sub in the top of the next inning.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
3:30 pm

Kevin McAlpin ‏@KevinMcAlpin
Francisco will PH for Medlen. Kris Medlen’s line: 6 IP, 3 H, 1 R (0 ER), 1 BB, 4 K, 1 WP, 79 pitches (56 for strikes). #Braves

79 pitches. He must be tired. Very efficient today. Just over 13 pitches an inning

nolie

September 30th, 2012
3:31 pm

Francisco is such a waste

Fredo

September 30th, 2012
3:32 pm

nice return game MB

nolie

September 30th, 2012
3:32 pm

I think they are giving him a bit of rest for the big game

Tomahawk Mafia

September 30th, 2012
3:32 pm

It must be a rule that all Braves pinch hitters have to strike out, because they strike out at an alarming rate.

Brava

September 30th, 2012
3:32 pm

Mikey is looking like the rest did him some good. Great timing, too.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
3:32 pm

40 steals for Bourn, and he slid properly.

abeeeewright

September 30th, 2012
3:33 pm

Looks like the Brewers are going to see their season end today. Cards are mauling the Nats, 7-0.

Also looks like tomorrow’s game in Pittsburgh is going to be meaningful.

Brian from SC

September 30th, 2012
3:33 pm

And, as much as they might say otherwise, players like reaching plateaus like 40 stolen bases. I’m sure that’s a pretty big deal to Bourn.

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
3:33 pm

Atta boy, Bourn.

Good to see

JC Brave

September 30th, 2012
3:34 pm

Still reminds me of Francoeur up there at the plate.

His swing looks so Francoeurish.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
3:34 pm

Francisco is such a waste

:lol: I wouldn’t say he’s a waste, but he’s not all that good. Don’t tell Lew and Largo, though…

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
3:36 pm

If not for the loss Friday, we might be 2back with 3 to play after today… still woulda been tough

Brian from SC

September 30th, 2012
3:36 pm

If Pittsburgh wins today, they will be hoping for a sweep of Atlanta to finish with their first .500 record in 20 years.

Capt.Mudd

September 30th, 2012
3:37 pm

Thumbs up for Bourn….and the whole Braves roster….nice job!

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
3:38 pm

I kinda wish that Medlen could have finished the game, it would have been great to see him out there when history was made. No need to push him though.

JC Brave

September 30th, 2012
3:38 pm

Hey nolie, how’s your leg doing?

Brian from SC

September 30th, 2012
3:43 pm

Last AB coming up for Chipper. Soak it in.

Tomahawk Mafia

September 30th, 2012
3:45 pm

Avilan has performed nicely since he was promoted to Atlanta. The bullpen has made great strides since there stuggles early in the season as well. A nice change from last September when many of the relievers were really struggling.

Brian from SC

September 30th, 2012
3:48 pm

If he gets on, I might pinch run for him.

At the least, let him walk off the field with a defensive sub in the top of the 8th.

BFChris28

September 30th, 2012
3:49 pm

Chipper’s last AB :-(

Disgusted

September 30th, 2012
3:52 pm

And Chipper gets on in another good AB.

Note that he will have some ABS in the post season & has at least one post season game at home.

Go get em guys.

BFChris28

September 30th, 2012
3:53 pm

Won’t be his last AB in Turner, just during regular season :-(

Brian from SC

September 30th, 2012
3:53 pm

Give me Constanza for Chipper between innings. And do it after TV comes back.

MIBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
3:58 pm

Good work by Avilan

BFChris28

September 30th, 2012
3:59 pm

I like Avilan.

Possibly a replacement of O’Flaherty or Venters.

nolie

September 30th, 2012
3:59 pm

I think McNate got another homer and steal today :D

Tomahawk Mafia

September 30th, 2012
4:00 pm

Wow. Avilan looked great. He has worked himself into being a pitcher that could be trusted in high-leverage situations in my opinion.

nolie

September 30th, 2012
4:00 pm

Constanza for Chipper? Georgie can play third?? ;)

Disgusted

September 30th, 2012
4:02 pm

Looks like the Falcons are going to choke it up today.

Julio Jones = Overrated. Almost a bust. He is a BUMB.

nolie

September 30th, 2012
4:03 pm

Andujar said ‘one word’, where does he keep getting the ‘two words’?

Disgusted

September 30th, 2012
4:04 pm

Cam Newton > than Matt Ryan could ever hope to be.

Matty Ice is a portrait of mediocrity and second rate quality. Falcons are the fools gold they have always been — thare is no hope for them.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
4:06 pm

We’re likely to be 3-1 Disgusted… not all that bad. A “missed” catch might have cost us today, Julio missed staying in bounds by 3 inches. The O-line was horrible today though. Not Ryan’s fault

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
4:07 pm

Ross was safe there…

Kat

September 30th, 2012
4:07 pm

Man why are there so many bad calls at first this year.

MIBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
4:07 pm

Ross was safe. Eddings strikes again!

Brava

September 30th, 2012
4:07 pm

phoenix

September 30th, 2012
4:08 pm

Seeing Manny Acosta on the mound reminds me of Francoeur, Kelly Johnson, Yunel Escobar, Greg Norton, Corky Miller, Jeff Bennett, Garret “Loaf” Anderson, Derrek Lee, Kyle Farnsworth, Jordan Schafer, Nate McLouth. The Bad Old Days.

Brian from SC

September 30th, 2012
4:08 pm

Everyone loves Doug Eddings. (sarcasm)

nolie

September 30th, 2012
4:08 pm

saw Mike Scioscia on tv today. Man did he get fat, how can he manage with so much weight? Need to sit him til he gets in shape

Capt.Mudd

September 30th, 2012
4:08 pm

Umps want to get it over and get a cold one

phoenix

September 30th, 2012
4:09 pm

Doug Eddings. In the great tradition of Bob Davidson, CB Bucknor, Angel Hernandez, Joe West and Jerry Meals. That amazing Umpires Union, where quality means nothing.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
4:09 pm

Kevin McAlpin ‏@KevinMcAlpin
#Braves announce 50,635 at Turner Field…3rd consecutive sell out…5th of the season. 150,855 through the turnstiles this weekend!

Disgusted

September 30th, 2012
4:10 pm

Doug Eddings might be the worst ump in nearly all of MLB and that includes CB Bucknor.

Brian from SC

September 30th, 2012
4:11 pm

Huge 2-out, 2-run hit in the 9th by Torii Hunter to take the lead in Texas. The Angels’ margin for error is essentially zero.

Brian from SC

September 30th, 2012
4:11 pm

Let’s see if we get that defensive sub for Chipper now.

Fredo

September 30th, 2012
4:12 pm

Diesel not helping that pinch hitting average

nolie

September 30th, 2012
4:12 pm

they need to pull Chipper off the field at the start of the inning.

Tomahawk Mafia

September 30th, 2012
4:12 pm

The string of futilty and strike outs for Braves pinch hitters continues.

Disgusted

September 30th, 2012
4:13 pm

TOBF – I have had enough of the way Matt Ryan finds a way not to be at his best in big games — this was a statement game and Matty could not come through.

And Julio Jones — I am fed up with him — for all they gave up for him and the hype he is not the elite receiver he was supposed to be. He deserves to be Booed.

This performance by the Falcons today was disgraceful and the Failcons are not championship material. They are second rate an 8 to 10 W team at best.

Nolong post season run for Falcons — again. First round elimination again if they make it.

Tomahawk Mafia

September 30th, 2012
4:14 pm

phoenix

Those names from the 2008 and 2009 seasons invoke frustration from Braves fans on this blog. Garrett Anderson will likely stand as the Braves player I have hated the most in all my years as a fan.

nolie

September 30th, 2012
4:15 pm

guessing Chipper said Not

Brian from SC

September 30th, 2012
4:16 pm

Fredi needs to overrule him. Too cool of a moment to pass up.

nolie

September 30th, 2012
4:18 pm

don’t think anybody is overruling Chipper this week

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
4:19 pm

we’re in FG range Disgusted.

derek k

September 30th, 2012
4:19 pm

??????????? Is who is going to catch of Medlen in the 1 game playoff?? Ross or McCann? I stick with Ross due to recent success with im and medlen.

Disgusted

September 30th, 2012
4:21 pm

Speaking of Kelly Johnson remember that dropped pop up that cost them a game in the 2008 season.

The Brave I most disliked in my history with the team is Yunel cause he was so dumb, the most fundamentally dum dum player I have ever seen.

He was lazy as heck too.

Jo Jo is the pitcher I disliked the most even over Len Barker. And I did not like Bruce Sutter or Nick Esasky either.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
4:21 pm

Have a chance to squeak out the Falcons game Disgusted.. and the kick is good!

usnavyvolfaninva

September 30th, 2012
4:21 pm

So mad right now. Can’t believe NO ONE outside the Peach state is picking this game up, and my internet up until RIGHT FREAKING NOW was broke! I hate my ISP!! :-(

nolie

September 30th, 2012
4:22 pm

prolly will depend on who starts for the Cards

ncbravesfan90

September 30th, 2012
4:22 pm

Falcons get an early Christmas gift…..Merry Christmas. Even gift wrapped it.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
4:22 pm

derek k: I agree with ya.

Disgusted

September 30th, 2012
4:22 pm

Well, the Falcons pull it out — gave me a near coronary but they did survive.

Still think Julio has underachieved but it was a great pass from Matt to Roddy.

Julio has to get better and the D has to stop people.

4-0 is good.

Disgusted

September 30th, 2012
4:24 pm

Hey TOBF — in the end they do pull it out a W is a W and they do deserve it.

At least the Falcons D is not as bad as the Georgia D — that really needs cleaning up.

Have to give Matty credit in spite of it not being his best individual game.

nolie

September 30th, 2012
4:25 pm

its only pointyball Disgusted, not worth getting upset over…..

Capt.Mudd

September 30th, 2012
4:25 pm

Tomahawk Mafia

September 30th, 2012
4:26 pm

Cory Gearrin has no business facing left handed hitters. He faced three in the 9th inning and they all reached base.

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
4:27 pm

CB

I tried to follow both games so I missed some action. From what I did see, though, hell of a game.

Efrim

September 30th, 2012
4:27 pm

I like Gearrin, but he can’t really get LHH’s out, so, I’d just rather have pitchers that have a snowballs chance of getting lefties out.

Fredo

September 30th, 2012
4:27 pm

Chipper probably don’t mind playing a few extra minutes at home but he probably wants this one to hurry up and end

Tomahawk Mafia

September 30th, 2012
4:28 pm

Disgusted

I always like Kelly Johnson and his ability to get on base and hit for a little bit of power, but yes when he dropped that pop fly against the Phillies in June of 2008 it was a painful feeling. That did precipitate a tailspin for the Braves that season.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
4:28 pm

Meds gets the record

Efrim

September 30th, 2012
4:28 pm

Similar to Moylan – just not a pitcher that should be facing LHH’s.

Fredo

September 30th, 2012
4:29 pm

see you back here on sunday chipper

Brian from SC

September 30th, 2012
4:29 pm

Meanwhile, Pittsburgh has blown a save, and if they don’t return the favor in the bottom of the 9th, they won’t be playing for a .500 record against Atlanta.

Mitchell

September 30th, 2012
4:30 pm

That was like the Josh Hamilton batting cage commercial last year.

Great job Cory. We really needed to use Craig Kimbrel… again.

Powder Blue

September 30th, 2012
4:32 pm

Awesome weekend.

Brian from SC

September 30th, 2012
4:32 pm

Big 2-run homer for Fielder in the 8th puts the Detroit up…and the White Sox are losing.

Mitchell

September 30th, 2012
4:34 pm

Can’t believe at 93 wins we’re still 3.5 back of the Washington Nationals.

nolie

September 30th, 2012
4:34 pm

geeze even has me clappin’ at home here. even a big ol’ man-tear

abeeeewright

September 30th, 2012
4:37 pm

Looks like it’s going to be …

Yanks versus Sox
Os versus Rays

for the AL East crown.

Whoever wins more of those three games gets the division. Stay tied, an it’s one-game playoff time.

Might even have the loser of that playoff have to go play another playoff to get into the WC.

Capt.Mudd

September 30th, 2012
4:38 pm

Great family moment……we all wish Chipper the best.

Mitchell

September 30th, 2012
4:38 pm

Good year for the Braves and fortunately the last regular season home game didn’t end with the opposing team celebrating on the infield.

That’s a plus.

I’ll take it.

nolie

September 30th, 2012
4:38 pm

much better ending than Nancy Botwin got….

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
4:38 pm

Well that was really great.

You just don’t get to see something like that in baseball very often.

Hell………. Ever

Russell Bell

September 30th, 2012
4:39 pm

Its fantastic that this team has 93 wins (with 3 games to go).

Coming out of Spring, I thought 90-91 wins was the absolute max they’d achieve. I’m not sure (don’t have links to articles in front of me), but I think the Braves have out played most preseason predictions of their W-L record.

usnavyvolfaninva

September 30th, 2012
4:39 pm

I’m glad you guys got to see history as it happened (No, I’m being serious, not bitter)

Bama Braves

September 30th, 2012
4:40 pm

Thank You For The Memories Chipper Your A Class Act!

abeeeewright

September 30th, 2012
4:41 pm

NL is definitely more polarized now than for many years in the past.

Nats, Reds, Giants, Braves … 92+ wins.

No one else is going to get to 90.

usnavyvolfaninva

September 30th, 2012
4:41 pm

I’m proud of what the Braves accomplished this year. Just think, we cut out the long slumps, imagine what this team can do. I know this season ain’t over (Glory be), but we get a couple of big bats next year, this team will be dangerous.

Brian from SC

September 30th, 2012
4:43 pm

The Pirates just lost, and that little extra motivation will be gone from their series with Atlanta.

nolie

September 30th, 2012
4:43 pm

I said high 80s , so they blew past my prediction quite some time ago.

Mitchell

September 30th, 2012
4:45 pm

Who’s the girl in the white tank top?

I’m a fan.

nolie

September 30th, 2012
4:47 pm

or it takes the pressure off of them and they can relax and play spoiler

phil

September 30th, 2012
4:48 pm

Well, he did it….

Larry wayne just made me tear up. That piece to begin and end the telecast was terrific.

Well done, Braves! Congrats, Chipper! Congrats, Medlen! (no adjective to describe what he’s done)

Let’s find a way, boys, and make this roll on through October, whadda ya say?

And that Falcons win? That just doesn’t happen. What a day….

LAG

September 30th, 2012
4:48 pm

What Mitchell said. My wife and I have been trying to figure that out.

Brian from SC

September 30th, 2012
4:50 pm

Playoff update: Texas, New York, and Baltimore would all clinch a playoff spot if Texas beats the Angels in the nightcap tonight. Oakland will have to wait until tomorrow, at least.

Milwaukee’s about to get eliminated from the postseason, down 7-0 in the 9th.

phil

September 30th, 2012
4:50 pm

Well, Mitchell, better hope we win Friday to avoid that celebration you mention…..

Powder Blue

September 30th, 2012
4:52 pm

This team’s playing very good baseball right now. Hopefully they’ll carry the momentum to Pittsburgh.

Brian from SC

September 30th, 2012
4:53 pm

Looks like Tampa will win today, but they have been eliminated from AL East contention, with the Yankees and Orioles winning today.

Efrim

September 30th, 2012
4:54 pm

A little over 2.42 million for the Braves this year in attendance. Average # of fans slightly under 30,000 a game.

nolie

September 30th, 2012
4:54 pm

McNate for MVP!!

abeeeewright

September 30th, 2012
4:55 pm

The Houston-Milwaukee game provides the big lesson in baseball. The worst team in the league, with nothing on the line, can beat a much better team who is playing for its playoff life.

One game play-in … a worrisome future for the Bravos.

Efrim

September 30th, 2012
4:56 pm

As much as I am happy that the team has gone 19-7 in their last 26 games, I’m still pretty concerned with our offense. Probably the most concerned I’ve been all year. Hoping some of the bats can all of a sudden get hot.

nolie

September 30th, 2012
4:56 pm

Yanks look tough to me

nolie

September 30th, 2012
5:00 pm

Oh ye of little faith……

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
5:02 pm

A little over 2.42 million for the Braves this year in attendance

Longest streak in MLB for over 2.3 million still in place.

nolie

September 30th, 2012
5:06 pm

how can that be Bat? We all know that Atlanta is a terrible attendance town….

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
5:08 pm

New math, nolie.

I see FSU jumped over LSU in the polls. Congrats

Paul Wall

September 30th, 2012
5:09 pm

Bat is a liar!

Paul Wall

September 30th, 2012
5:11 pm

I am so so scared for the Braves to play the Cards in the one game playoff ahhhhh!!!

nolie

September 30th, 2012
5:12 pm

kinda surprised me since they did not play all that well against a small team, I guess they thought LSU played even poorer

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
5:14 pm

Looking forward to new episodes of Dexter and Homeland starting tonight.

I would kill Brody off first thing.

Liar, Paul, how so?

Paul Wall

September 30th, 2012
5:14 pm

Hey!
Don’t listen to a word I say
Hey!
The screams all sound the same
Hey!

Because though the truth may vary
This ship will carry
Our bodies safe to shore

Paul Wall

September 30th, 2012
5:15 pm

I was being sarcastic Bat, no worries my friend!

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
5:15 pm

Guess so, nolie.

I’m just happy the Dawgs did not drop any.

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
5:18 pm

I see, Paul. No problem

Paul Wall

September 30th, 2012
5:18 pm

So honestly guys is Meds the real deal, or is this some mirage??

Puma

September 30th, 2012
5:22 pm

I know chances are slim that we catch Nats, but I wonder how pitching lines up in the event of a tie breaker on Thurs. Minor for Braves I would assume Zimmerman for Nats?

Paul Wall

September 30th, 2012
5:25 pm

Geez this blog is deader than my great, great, great grandma!

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
5:27 pm

Teddy Cahill ‏@tedcahill
St. Louis and Washington just went final. Cardinals win 10-4 and the Nats miss another chance to clinch. Magic number still one.

:?

Fredo

September 30th, 2012
5:30 pm

What are the chances Philly sweeps the Nats and the Braves sweep the Pirates …..

Interested Bystander

September 30th, 2012
5:30 pm

This has been a great sports day. The Braves and Falcons win with all the playoff races games in baseball and the football games in play. Since, the Braves have shown us they can get to the show most people are probaly watching their favorite football games.

Interested Bystander

September 30th, 2012
5:32 pm

I’m waiting for DOB’s postgame quotes.

Jeff R

September 30th, 2012
5:32 pm

The Nats are running out of gas, IMO.

abeeeewright

September 30th, 2012
5:33 pm

I don’t think anyone thinks Kris Medlen is Greg Maddux (from the future) reincarnated. But, he’s had enough success that you cannot lump him in with the likes of Kyle Davies.

Jeff R

September 30th, 2012
5:33 pm

What are the chances Philly sweeps the Nats and the Braves sweep the Pirates …..

Always possible, though I don’t think probable.

abeeeewright

September 30th, 2012
5:36 pm

I’m not terribly hopeful of a double-sweep (Phils-Nats, Braves-Pirates). But, stranger things have happened.

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
5:38 pm

With all due respect to these two men, Whitey Ford had the record while pitching for the dynastic Bronx Bomber Yankees of the 50’s and early 60’s. Carl Hubbell had the record while pitching for the dynastic John McGraw NY Giants of the 20’s.

What Kris Medlen has done is nothing short of amazing and dominating. The present Braves are NOT a scoring juggernaut like those two teams were. The dominance lies in his other-worldly ERA during that stretch, as well as having pitched big innings during that record-breaking length. It is a well-earned record for a guy who has done nothing but pound naysayers into grist while he send batters back to the dugout muttering.

WAY TO GO, LITTLE MAD DOG!!!

Interested Bystander

September 30th, 2012
5:39 pm

Mitchell

September 30th, 2012
4:45 pm
Who’s the girl in the white tank top?

I’m a fan.
LAG

September 30th, 2012
4:48 pm
What Mitchell said. My wife and I have been trying to figure that out.

I hope she is Chipper’s retirement present (lol)

Doc Holliday

September 30th, 2012
5:40 pm

What are the Braves doing with the rotation playoff time?

Medlen against cards

then what?

1. Huddy
2. Minor

3. Medlen
4. Maholm/Hanson
5. Huddy

6. Minor
7. Medlen

Whos getting that spot for game for? Hanson? Maholm?

Here Comes Honey Boo Boo

September 30th, 2012
5:45 pm

Kendricks pitch tomorrow for the phils……

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
5:47 pm

IT’S THE gNATS TURN TO CHOKE ON IT!!! GAG ON IT, POSEURS!!!

(I feel better now…) :-)

Paul Wall

September 30th, 2012
5:48 pm

I would pitch Minor in game 1 of the division series!

Kat

September 30th, 2012
5:49 pm

Good day today, Braves win, Matt Ryan has another good week for my fantasy football team and I got some new shoes & boots. And yes we talk food, sports, music and I’m adding shoes, who doesn’t love a new pair of kicks.

Here Comes Honey Boo Boo

September 30th, 2012
5:51 pm

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Phillies

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Kyle Kendrick (10-12, 4.08)

Buy Now

Comcast Sports Network
Mid-Atlantic Sports Network

Tue

Oct 2

Phillies

7:05 PM

Gio Gonzalez (21-8, 2.89)

Buy Now

Comcast Sports Network
Mid-Atlantic Sports Network

Wed

Oct 3

Phillies

1:05 PM

Edwin Jackson (9-11, 4.13)
Cliff Lee (6-8, 3.12)

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Mid-Atlantic Sports Network

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
5:54 pm

Doc, Hanson’s last start this year will be against the Pirates on Tuesday. I have a better chance of a playoff start than Hanson does with Medlen, Hudson, Minor, & Maholm pitching the way they have.

Disgusted

September 30th, 2012
5:55 pm

93 wins is at least 10 more W’s than I expected.

I figured around 79 to 83 W’s. Remember, most pundits (locally and nationally) had us in 4th to begin the season and it did not seem unreasonable at the time.

This has been a great yr for the Braves, real special with a good post season run.

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
5:56 pm

Kat: yes, fresh kicks are always a good thing to talk and feel about. :-)

Lane Kiffin

September 30th, 2012
5:59 pm

Pathetic, Two games, Chippers last regular season games and only 8 pages of comments. Take away the football comments and there would be even less.

I assume this is what Mr. O’brien wants. When you ban/warn people and others leave because of this it hurts the blogs appeal.

I still enjoy reading the comments from a few of the good bloggers left. That list seems to get smaller and smaller each day.

Here Comes Honey Boo Boo

September 30th, 2012
6:01 pm

Efrim

September 30th, 2012
6:02 pm

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/red-hot-baltimore-orioles-may-force-yankees-into-wild-card-white-sox-tampa-bay-rays-dusty-baker-092912

THE AL CENTRAL: MEDIOCRITY REWARDED

As the example with the Yankees shows, the new postseason format greatly increases the motivation for winning a division title.

One problem: Neither AL Central contender is particularly deserving of the benefit — a bye into the best-of-five Division Series.

The division-leading Tigers hold only the seventh-best record in the 14-team AL, the second-place White Sox only the eighth best.

The wild-card game will feature two teams with better records than either of those clubs — better records, despite playing schedules tougher than the Tigers and White Sox face in the AL Central.

The solution?

Put the qualifiers with the two worst records in the wild-card game. Yes, winning a weak division would be less meaningful, but such a team hardly would be in position to argue — it would be lucky to reach the postseason in the first place.- Ken Rosenthal

Here Comes Honey Boo Boo

September 30th, 2012
6:03 pm

that was very classy by Delta Airlines….

Efrim

September 30th, 2012
6:05 pm

Better solution by Rosenthal, imo.

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
6:06 pm

Lane, probably because many of the bloggers made up many of the 50K that were at the ballpark today.

Efrim

September 30th, 2012
6:06 pm

The Rockies will entertain trade possibilities for multiple position players, including Dexter Fowler and Michael Cuddyer, opposing executives and scouts tell Troy E. Renck of The Denver Post.

Renck notes that Atlanta and Philadelphia could be fits for Fowler as they seek a center fielder and the Braves had interest in him when they were shopping infielder Martin Prado. The 26-year-old is also an Atlanta native and plans on living there this offseason.

Here Comes Honey Boo Boo

September 30th, 2012
6:07 pm

Delta rolled out the red carpet and dedicated the #Braves team charter to Chipper Jones! pic.twitter.com/HOTJCRJC

Here Comes Honey Boo Boo

September 30th, 2012
6:07 pm

Delta rolledDelta rolled out the red carpet and dedicated the #Braves team charter to Chipper Jones! pic.twitter.com/HOTJCRJC out the red carpet and dedicated the #Braves team charter to Chipper Jones! pic.twitter.com/HOTJCRJC

Doc Holliday

September 30th, 2012
6:07 pm

Paul Wall

September 30th, 2012
5:48 pm

I would pitch Minor in game 1 of the division series!

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I would too………but remember…………braves usually go with experience and veterans rather than the hot hand.

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MiaBchBravesFan ,
I would go with Maholm also, what I fear is that Braves usually go with their own players……… they go like……. we own Hanson ……….. he is a guy from our farm.

Here Comes Honey Boo Boo

September 30th, 2012
6:08 pm

my computer is sick……

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
6:08 pm

Thank for the link, honey boo boo.

Pretty cool

Ghost of Chipper Jones

September 30th, 2012
6:09 pm

Come on PHILLIES….sweep!

Come on BRAVES….sweep!

Efrim

September 30th, 2012
6:10 pm

Dexter Fowler was a .262/.339/.381 hitter on the road this year. In 2011, he hit .286/.367/.415 away from Coors. He made $2.34 million last year in his first year of arbitration as a Super 2 player and is controlled through 2015.

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
6:11 pm

I DEFINITELY agree with Rosenthal. Weak divisions cannot be rewarded with prime playoff position.

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2012
6:12 pm

I highly doubt Hanson would get a post season start.

Ghost of Chipper Jones

September 30th, 2012
6:14 pm

HUDDY gets the start @ three-rivers IF we’re still in the pennant race on wednesday. Otherwise, he gets the first game NLDS start.

If there’s a play-off tie with the NATS on thursday MINOR gets the start

Efrim

September 30th, 2012
6:16 pm

It really looks like the Braves will go Hudson, Minor, Medlen, Maholm, Hudson in the NLDS provided they get there.

Ghost of Chipper Jones

September 30th, 2012
6:16 pm

Well, we took 11 of 12 from the teams we had to beat, but our 8-10 record against the NATS has cost us dearly. Reverse that record and we’re one up for the pennant with three to play.

We have got to learn to own the NATS.

Paul Wall

September 30th, 2012
6:19 pm

I hope Hanson does not have a place in the playoffs!

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
6:20 pm

Dexter Fowler is what the Braves have already – a complimentary role player who has very limited power and is not a consistent run producer. Unless the Rockies want Dan Uggla in return, what’s the point!?

I’d much rather make a play for Willingham than Fowler any day of the week. The Twins need pitching.

Paul Wall

September 30th, 2012
6:21 pm

We will really have an awesome rotation next year, but I would really love a flame thrower in the rotation, One that can throw 95 plus all the way up to the ninth!

Paul Wall

September 30th, 2012
6:23 pm

No Ghost of Chipper Jones we could have had that record against the nats and still be first in the East, if we would not have got swept by the Brewers in that one series and won a couple of games we should not have lost!

Lane Kiffin

September 30th, 2012
6:24 pm

I hope you are right MBBF. I know this is also football season which may account for part of the slowdown.

I just hate to see people leave because of a disagreement or because as George would say the regulars don’t like them. Even the regulars have went down. I see very few posts by McFann anymore. Phil said ace was on Bradley’s blog. I didn’t agree with ace too often and when I didn’t I just went on to the next post.

Puma

September 30th, 2012
6:24 pm

Rosenthals idea makes no sense, makes divisions and weighted schedule completely meaningless. Saying that AL Central is weak division is too subjective a statement, maybe their records aren’t that good because they have beat each other up all year long.

Not to mention if you rid the divisions of their significance, then there is nothing to any rivalry in baseball – Red Sox Yankees has the same meaning as Yankees Mariners

Lane Kiffin

September 30th, 2012
6:26 pm

well said Ghost. A better record against the Nats or just .500 ball on Mondays and the division could have been ours.

Carroll Rogers

September 30th, 2012
6:27 pm

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
6:32 pm

Sorry, Puma, but the AL Central is CRAP. They do not deserve a playoff berth. The White Sox and Tigers benefited from having the joke Indians and doormat Royals in there… and they still stink!

Meanwhile, the Rays ROASTED the Pale Hose’d and the Tigers underachieve like the overpaid bums they are. The Rays, O’s, Yanks, A’s, Rangers, & Angels are INFINITELY more worthy than the sad-sack Kitties and Stink Sox.

Couch Tater

September 30th, 2012
6:37 pm

Fire Davis Love!

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
6:44 pm

And the AL Central will stink even MORE next year when the rancid Astros join the pathetic fray. If the Orioles and Yankees would’ve had the Indians, Royals, & Astros in their division…

ROTFLMAO!!!

They both would’ve won 100-plus! :-)

Puma

September 30th, 2012
6:48 pm

I wasn’t saying AL Central was good, just saying you can’t say a division is crap based solely on W-L records. And again, under Rosenthals scenario, divisions mean nothing, rivalries will mean nothing, and you might as well just have one big division and top 4 or 6 teams get in playoffs. To me, that would kill a lot of the flavor of the game.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
6:49 pm

Braves just passed by prediction of 92 wins… though the division crown I expected is unlikely. Get Greinke or Shields for next year, I may predict 95!

Nats are out of gas, but I hope they get the #1 seed. I’d love to face them in the LDS.

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
6:58 pm

Puma, I disagree. Rosenthal does not punish the AL Central. They still go to a playoff game, but do not get a bye. The six teams I mentioned above are worthier than the Tigers or Chi-Sox. They still go in, but they gotta go the hard route – one game, win or done. Very fair. Unfair would be if they do not go at all.

Be reasonable, dude!

Jeff R

September 30th, 2012
6:59 pm

Pathetic, Two games, Chippers last regular season games and only 8 pages of comments. Take away the football comments and there would be even less.

I assume this is what Mr. O’brien wants. When you ban/warn people and others leave because of this it hurts the blogs appeal.

You really have things arse-backwards, Lanie.

Here’s an idea: Start your own blog – or get ACE and Jorge_Jorge to join you in a chat room. They seem your speed.

UKUGA

September 30th, 2012
7:06 pm

Even as a long shot, it’s still fun heading into the final series with the division championship still in the balance.

I’d put the smart money on WAS closing it out at home tomorrow.

When they celebrate the division title, I wonder if anyone asks if that means they don’t think they can still win the Word Series?

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
7:09 pm

UKUGA: The gNats committed suicide when they shelved Strasburg. Their mojo is in the toilet.

Joachim Gilman

September 30th, 2012
7:13 pm

dougglanville Doug Glanville
You have to give the @Braves manager, Fredi Gonzalez credit. Tough way to go out last year then he comes back even better. Not easy to do.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
7:19 pm

but but but, we just have to hate on Fredi Gonzales. He’s terrible, I don’t care about anything that shows otherwise. :roll:

UKUGA

September 30th, 2012
7:21 pm

On second look, Phils may take tomorrow’s game against Wang. Then, Gio wraps up the Cy Young with a snappy performance on Tuesday.

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
7:26 pm

I say gNats lose tomorrow, then Gio chokes on it Tuesday. Wednesday, the collapse is complete!

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
7:27 pm

Thursday – with the Braves beating the gNats – is just a formality.

Carroll Rogers

September 30th, 2012
7:33 pm

cricket

September 30th, 2012
7:38 pm

Trey

September 30th, 2012
7:50 pm

Fredi Gonzalez sucks. The Braves only have 93 wins!

brian

September 30th, 2012
7:54 pm

Who predicted at the beginning of the season that the braves would have 93 wins with 3 games left? That we would be 3 games back of the division lead with 93 wins and 3 left to play? That the nationals would have 96 wins at this time?

Doc Holliday

September 30th, 2012
7:55 pm

Im not a baseball analyst, but, it would be very interesting to see what Braves do with Hanson…..leaving him out of the playoff roster would hurt badly his trade value……wouldnt it?

Im not saying I want him in……. but I can smell our organization giving him the chance. A chance he has not earned.

Puma

September 30th, 2012
7:55 pm

MiaBch – How is playing a 1 game play in not a punishment for a division winner? And how do you discount the fact that the meaning of division play goes completely down the drain when winning your division really doesn’t mean anything? He is basically saying, top 3 teams by record, regardless of division are in, then #4 & #5 play one game to decide who plays #1. You might as well have no divisions in that scenario, not play more games against teams in your division, and weaken the meaning of all regional rivalries.

Puma

September 30th, 2012
8:01 pm

Doc – I bet he’ll be on postseason roster, but won’t get any starts. I just hope they don’t put him in relief a la Charlie Leibrandt in an extra inning tied game, because I am pretty sure the result would be the same.

nolie

September 30th, 2012
8:02 pm

Remember, most pundits (locally and nationally) had us in 4th to begin the season and it did not seem unreasonable at the time….Disgusted

seemed pretty unreasonable to me at the time

nolie

September 30th, 2012
8:04 pm

I assume this is what Mr. O’brien wants. When you ban/warn people and others leave because of this it hurts the blogs appeal….Lane

what a pile of hot horse dung. Stick it ACE

Sopheee

September 30th, 2012
8:09 pm

nolieeeeeee polieeeee, glad you’re okay.

Jeff R

September 30th, 2012
8:11 pm

Glad to have you back, nolie.

Doc Holliday

September 30th, 2012
8:12 pm

Puma,

Relieve corp is too good……….theres no one to leave out ……. too many good arms

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
8:15 pm

Hanson in relief? Uhh no. Too many good arms there. I’m “afraid” that even CMart will get on. I’d prefer Gearrin, but…

At this time, I can’t see a way that Tommy gets on the PS roster.

nolie

September 30th, 2012
8:17 pm

Hi Guys, thanks.
ll be a bit surprised if Tommy makes it either, but one never knows

brian

September 30th, 2012
8:47 pm

Good to have you back nolie

cabravesfan

September 30th, 2012
9:13 pm

According to the BMI, Michael Vick (6′0″ 215 pounds) is just shy of being obese. Does anyone think Michael Vick is borderline obese?

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
9:16 pm

Vick is obese in stupid QB play…

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

September 30th, 2012
9:19 pm

Whoops! I think I picked a bad time to check in!…… :P

Veer

September 30th, 2012
9:19 pm

Who starts in place of Hudson on Wednesday? Noway he starts that game.

We can definately sweep the Pirates but can the Phillies sweep the Nationals?
Probably not.

I think we win 2/3 vs Pirates
Phillies win 1 out of 3 vs Nationals.

We will finish with 95 wins. 2 games out.

nolie

September 30th, 2012
9:20 pm

phil prolly does ;)

Yunel's Frosted Tips

September 30th, 2012
9:54 pm

The girl with the red Braves hat and tank top left with Chipper’s parents………..that wouldn’t be the daughter from Michigan would it? Or maybe his new squeeze?

keyLargo

September 30th, 2012
9:54 pm

McLouth in 220 AB’s is hitting .273/.349/.438/.787 with an OPS+113. 10 SB in 11 tries. Why did the Braves play him with a torn stomaxh muscle and then give him away? I really would like to hear the truth on that.

cabravesfan

September 30th, 2012
9:58 pm

Chipper doesn’t have a daughter.

abeeeewright

September 30th, 2012
10:02 pm

We won’t know about playoff rosters and Hanson til after the play-in game. I doubt Hanson or Hudson are on that roster. NLDS roster prolly does not include hanson, but we won’t know it if the roster never gets made.

Kat

September 30th, 2012
10:03 pm

Yunel’s Frosted Tips @ 9:54 pm I think people on Twitter are making the assumption it’s his new gf https://twitter.com/lilgeorgiapeach . No idea if it really is or not, just rumors.

phil

September 30th, 2012
10:07 pm

Vick is fat, eh?

Lol….you guysbare obsessed withnhis weight.

The babe by chipper’s mom was with the third person he hugged after the game. Pay attention.

phil

September 30th, 2012
10:12 pm

Attention, bloggers….

The babe appeared to be with whoever that guy was that chipper hugged after hugging his parents.

Why stir up stupid crap like this? Give it a rest.

phil

September 30th, 2012
10:14 pm

Aaron Rogers looks a bit plump too….

PTBNL

September 30th, 2012
10:14 pm

CAB, BMI is a terrible measure of anything. It is a pathetic measurement and is no wonder that a messed up govt. would adopt it for any measure of a person’s state of health.

cricket

September 30th, 2012
10:15 pm

Gil Meche has company
The Minnesota Twins released Tsuyoshi Nishioka on Friday, ending their experiment with the Japanese middle infielder after two rough seasons.
The move, which the Twins said came at Nishioka’s request and was supported by the club, wasn’t a surprise. But the way he went out was unique.
Accepting blame for his failure to produce at the plate or play capable defense at shortstop and second base, Nishioka waived his right to his $3 million salary for the 2013 season and a $250,000 buyout.
So they don’t owe him any more money, and Nishioka is now a free agent. With guaranteed contracts, major league teams rarely are able to get off the payroll hook like this for players no longer in their plans. But Nishioka, in a statement released by the Twins, was nothing but graceful.
”I would like to thank the Twins organization for helping me fulfill my dream of playing in Major League Baseball,” Nishioka said. ”I take full responsibility for my performance which was below my own expectations. At this time, I have made the decision that it is time to part ways. I have no regrets and know that only through struggle can a person grow stronger. I appreciate all the support the team and the fans in Minnesota and Rochester have shown me.”

cricket

September 30th, 2012
10:16 pm

BMI is a terrible measure of anything.

what about WAR? ;)

Yunel's Frosted Tips

September 30th, 2012
10:19 pm

he had the kid with the Hooters girl……….thought that was a girl ………..she would be 17 or so now……he has 4 boys in Atlanta from 2 previous marriages……….who knows? she was a cutie…

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

September 30th, 2012
10:19 pm

PTBNL

Music…sweet music. Post of the week…month…YEAR!!… ;)

phil

September 30th, 2012
10:20 pm

PTBNL – excuses, excuses for being a lard butt…..

cabravesfan

September 30th, 2012
10:24 pm

PTBNL-

I agree. It does not take anything into consideration other than weight. It is an extremely poor way to gage obesity.

phil

September 30th, 2012
10:24 pm

Good nite weight obsessed folks….lol

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

September 30th, 2012
10:24 pm

Also I think cabravesfan was just kidding… :P

PTBNL

September 30th, 2012
10:25 pm

BMI does not measure “lard”. It measures weight only. It does not even take into account a person’s gender. So a big boned, well developed male is set to the same scale as a frail small boned female as long as they are the same height. Very stupid.

If you want to measure “lard” test one’s body composition. Then you can know percentage lean body mass as well as percentage of “lard”.

PTBNL

September 30th, 2012
10:26 pm

Correct, cab…. weight and height.

cabravesfan

September 30th, 2012
10:27 pm

Yunel’s Frosted Tips-

he had a son with her, who is 14 or 15 now. The woman next to his mom tonight is his current girlfriend.

cabravesfan

September 30th, 2012
10:27 pm

McFann-

Yes, I was. Just pointing out how stupid BMI is ;)

Yunel's Frosted Tips

September 30th, 2012
10:29 pm

Ol’ Hoss doin’ O.K. then………he deserves it……

PTBNL

September 30th, 2012
10:29 pm

McFann, has someone been giving you a hard time about BMI? I very much dislike that measurement. It is hard for a personal trainer to untrain such thoughts when it is “everywhere”.

cabravesfan

September 30th, 2012
10:29 pm

PTBNL-

Not just big boned- muscle weighs more than fat, so someone like Vick, who is a lot more muscle than fat, will weigh more than someone that is just fat. I doubt ANYONE with eyes would call Vick overweight or out of shape.

cabravesfan

September 30th, 2012
10:31 pm

Yunel’s Frosted Tips-

Chipper actually has 3 boys with his current (soon to be former) wife- he & his first had no kids. He has 4 boys total.

PTBNL

September 30th, 2012
10:33 pm

Btw, I did realize that cab was joking. I just wanted to say something about BMI. I run into it all the time.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
10:34 pm

Orioles in the playoffs. Good for them.

cabravesfan

September 30th, 2012
10:35 pm

PTBNL-

I’m fairly sure that McFann’s comment was not directed at you :)

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
10:35 pm

I used to be underweight according to BMI… I wasn’t even close. Always been skinny, but not that skinny.

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

September 30th, 2012
10:37 pm

cabravesfan

Of course! :D

PTBNL

You bet they have! Main reason I’ve been so scarce lately—it’s not worth getting worked up over, and unfortunately the only way, at least for the time being, for me to not get worked up is to not even see the posts…:)

Ah well—time to head upstairs! I kinda wish this would have been the last regular season game today so we could start the playoffs sooner!!! So nervous about our offense in the playoffs, but I think I’m ready……buildup is a killer!! Night, all!!

PTBNL

September 30th, 2012
10:38 pm

Yes, cab. I said “well developed”…. or I meant to if I didn’t. There are many factors that I did not mention. I tried to keep it simple and brief.

I will say that I think it is possible to be too heavy and yet not be fat. For example, I don’t consider massive bodybuilders as being particularly healthy, though they have very, very little body fat. But that is a whole different ballpark.

ncgary

September 30th, 2012
10:38 pm

ive gained about 20 lbs lately up tp sa 34 waist now
to think last year i could still wear my high school size 28″s
i feel like ive aged 30 years for my fiftiest bday

Kat

September 30th, 2012
10:39 pm

Looks like it could be a wet series in Pittsburgh.

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

September 30th, 2012
10:40 pm

PTBNL

Yeah, no prob! As cab intimated, I just kinda threw that post out there so other people wouldn’t think she was serious and jump all over her…:)

OK, I’m out now…

cabravesfan

September 30th, 2012
10:41 pm

Good night McFann!

PTBNL-

Also, O-linemen are heavy, but not necessarily overweight. (some are, of course, but generally, they are very healthy for their weight)

ncgary

September 30th, 2012
10:41 pm

who’s next
pirates cardinals reds and rangers

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
10:42 pm

So nervous about our offense in the playoffs, but I think I’m ready

Same here… but as long as the pitching is there, I feel good. On the offense, the only guys who really are hot right now are Uggla and Prado… everyone else is kinda sluggish.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
10:44 pm

D-Line: Anyone remember Grady Jackson? That’s called fat. The Rex Ryan of year’s past was fat.Now he’s just heavy.

cabravesfan

September 30th, 2012
10:47 pm

TheOnlyBravesFan-

There has definitely been a trend in recent years moving toward trimmer, more athletic D-linemen. There are still some that are heaver than necessary, but they are not nearly as big as they used to be.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
10:48 pm

Dan Wayne Jones ‏@dananderton
Happy for #NateMcLouth tonight. Good dude who’s been to hell & back fighting injuries & to stay in MLB. Helped #Orioles make playoffs.

Yet there is such vitriol for him here still…. Why did the Braves let him play hurt again?

ncgary

September 30th, 2012
10:48 pm

well its about that time for me
lets go get that solid 5 hours sleep

any of you braniacs heard of royal rifes frequency synthesizer microcurrent machine
fsm?probably just another hoax, but its supposed to resonate cell growth through frequencies
e
what desperate souls grab for when faced with the inevitable
lol

nolie

September 30th, 2012
10:51 pm

when Jason bulked up 20 or so pounds last season it hindered his swing and his defensive play . he is much more athletic now since he lost it

PTBNL

September 30th, 2012
10:52 pm

I am sorry. I guess I jumped into a conversation without realizing it. I am sorry that BMI has been hurtful to someone on the blog.

cab, health cannot be measured by something as stupid as BMI.

I now am unable to work because I care for aging parents, both of whom have alzheimers. Yet in the 8 yrs that I have cared for them, they have not even had a cold. They now eat healthily and exercise regularly. I don’t know what their BMI is, but their Drs. are very impressed with what has happened to them these years.

nolie

September 30th, 2012
10:53 pm

I don’t think they knew about the hernia

PTBNL

September 30th, 2012
10:55 pm

Good night, McFann. Good to see you again.

Hey, Nolie. That is very true about Heyward… and others.

cabravesfan

September 30th, 2012
10:57 pm

PTBNL-

there is absolutely no need for you to apologize for anything! Good to have a pleasant conversation with you :)

nolie

September 30th, 2012
11:00 pm

it has changed some, but back in my day baseball players were strongly discouraged against using weight training. It is thought of now as beneficial if done carefully but getting bulky can cause problems

cabravesfan

September 30th, 2012
11:02 pm

Anyways, I gotta call it a bight- computer battery nearly dead and dinner nearly ready. Good night all!

Lane Kiffin

September 30th, 2012
11:05 pm

Jeff since you made that statement not even one page of comments.

Nolie I think we covered this while you were away, ace has gone over to Bradley’s blog so you can catch him there

Capt.Mudd

September 30th, 2012
11:05 pm

Earlier….as posted herein, seems as though some people or is it in fact one–that is counting posts and determining a low comment count is attributed to DOB or someone employed @ajc rendering an inordinate amount of warnings and/or banishments?

Someone feels like they’ve been ‘done wrong?’ Oh my, and I thought I was reading some weird news earlier this past week! Get a grip….whoever….and please see the logic behind the governance.

Furthermore, give me one sane reason why folks have to listen to the rubbish that would deserve such reprimanding action? It is quite simple…if one chooses to use extreme language that requires warning….then they have effectively banned themselves. I doubt there is a DOB Police Unit operating and, additionally, if you require monitoring regularly—you would be best served to take your vile game elsewhere, IMO.

PTBNL

September 30th, 2012
11:06 pm

Good night, cab. and good bight, too.

Yep, nolie. We did not weight train either. It would have been nice to know then what I know now.

nolie

September 30th, 2012
11:12 pm

well the thing is Lane that you showed up right at the time ACE got blasted (not banned) by DOB, and at least several times a day you pour out a buncha crap about DOB banning folks (totally untrue, only PL is banned) We have lost dozens of good posters because of folks like ACE and the other totally negative ranters, I still think you are ACE, but you are obviously using a new name for some reason because you talk about things that occurred B4 your moniker appeared.
no big deal, I just get tired of reading your misrepresentations of what has happened. The very few like ACE who left are never gonna be missed by most here, and whether it is you or not I am sure he will be back under another name, he was too fixated on DOB not to be

DiamondbackMac

September 30th, 2012
11:13 pm

ChattTownBrian

September 30th, 2012
11:14 pm

I am actually getting butterflies in my stomach thinking about Friday’s game. I still can’t wrap my mind around it that everything is over if we happen to lose one fu***** game. How are more not bent up over this?

nolie

September 30th, 2012
11:15 pm

que sera, sera Brian

Capt.Mudd

September 30th, 2012
11:21 pm

We are fortunately still in it–just enjoy!

nolie

September 30th, 2012
11:22 pm

exactly Capt, just enjoy

ChattTownBrian

September 30th, 2012
11:22 pm

nolie, whatever will be, will be. I don’t know what you’re saying, but that’s what I think.

nolie

September 30th, 2012
11:24 pm

its all in the timing Brian, last season we’d have been thrilled to have that one game play-in. This year, not so much :?

ChattTownBrian

September 30th, 2012
11:25 pm

I honestly have a bad feeling about this game. STL will be coming in with less pressure and, like CJ said, with more experience from last years run. I don’t like this at all and have a feeling this time next week we’ll be readin a lot of fairwell stuff on Chipper.

Prove me wrong. PLEEEEASE!

nolie

September 30th, 2012
11:25 pm

I’m saying what will happen, will happen and getting all nervous over it b4hand accomplishes nothing but making you feel bad.

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
11:28 pm

He tried to miss it…twice as much time for Eli as Matty had…

nolie

September 30th, 2012
11:28 pm

Glad to see McNate have an impact for the Orioles, I got totally tired of seeing him ripped all day every day here

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
11:29 pm

If Eli doesn’t lead his team to a win, that means he isn’t as good as Matt. :D

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
11:29 pm

CTB – if you don’t eat and don’t sleep for 4 days everything will be okay…

Capt.Mudd

September 30th, 2012
11:29 pm

Chipper said, “We can play with anyone.” And Brian, that means a ‘one gamer’ vs. any MLB team….just believe ole Hoss….heck, Uggs may get a couple dingers…we just don’t know?:)

ChattTownBrian

September 30th, 2012
11:31 pm

nolie, I know. I was being a silly smart ass. I had to google your line to figure out the meaning. I’d be a dummy without the internet. :oops:

You’re right on the nervous thing, but I swear I had this weird dream a few days ago that we lost 12-8 in that game. Since then I’ve been edgy and snappy. It seemed so real. Medlen had a bad game obviously, and somewhere I visioned Gearrin had given up a few runs after our comeback and I remember the blog was so mad at him for that.

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
11:31 pm

Thank you, Cromartie…

Capt.Mudd

September 30th, 2012
11:32 pm

Flag keeps Eli chucking

nolie

September 30th, 2012
11:33 pm

most of the Cards’ fans are just as nervous about it as we are ol’ buddy ;)

ChattTownBrian

September 30th, 2012
11:34 pm

Venice, If I did that I’d be talking like Tomahawkin on here with worse vocab. We don’t need that.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
11:34 pm

Chipper Jones ‏@RealCJ10
What a weekend! Great way to finish the home part of our schedule. 150k people came to watch. I love everyone in Braves Country. Ur the best

chipontheroad

September 30th, 2012
11:34 pm

What a frikin season man

GO BRAVOS

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
11:37 pm

Thanks, Iggles…one more chance (unlikely though it will be)…

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
11:38 pm

Eagles called a timeout, the Giants get another chance. They had just missed the field goal.

Capt.Mudd

September 30th, 2012
11:38 pm

De-icing the kicka

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
11:38 pm

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
11:39 pm

Pass interference penalty killed them. Just short with the kick

ChattTownBrian

September 30th, 2012
11:40 pm

And we love you Chipper! Now get some big hits Friday or I take it back! :lol:

chipontheroad

September 30th, 2012
11:41 pm

Matty Ice “winning” Drew Brees Looser

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
11:43 pm

Well, we know now that Matt Ryan is the better QB. He brought his team back to win. :lol:

Capt.Mudd

September 30th, 2012
11:47 pm

Giants 2-2 and an eyelash from 1-3 [recall TB game]……Matt is hotter QB at this step of the season…on a hotter team……Atlanta Falcons.

chipontheroad

September 30th, 2012
11:49 pm

Matty Ice say’s GTFOOF

chipontheroad

September 30th, 2012
11:50 pm

Capt.Mudd

September 30th, 2012
11:54 pm

One final note before saying bye……………

And “Little Middle” MTSU…..really steamrolled The Other major college in GA…..Wow, how ’bout those Blue Raiders of the big bad Sun Belt League? :) :)

chipontheroad

September 30th, 2012
11:58 pm

Yea capt that could send PJ packing I loved him at Ga Sou but Tech needs a real off not that mess and I’m a Dawg lover who went to Ga Sou

Capt.Mudd

October 1st, 2012
12:10 am

I should have said plucking wind, I guess.

chipontheroad

October 1st, 2012
12:15 am

Hoss was really pickin and slinging at 3rd today

Capt.Mudd

October 1st, 2012
12:24 am

It would have been rocking bigtime if he got a dinger–like he said, concentration was difficult given all the acknowldgements, accolades and lost sleep.

Venice Jim

October 1st, 2012
12:25 am

Tom Boswell column:

Frustration hung in the air. “I had the first chance to clinch it,” Ross Detwiler said of the first first-place finish in generations. “I sucked,” he said after allowing seven runs while getting only seven outs on 81 ugly pitches.

chipontheroad

October 1st, 2012
12:26 am

He aint done yet

Venice Jim

October 1st, 2012
12:28 am

More Boz:

This is a team that needs to clinch quickly so it can take a day or preferably two days off to clear its head and defrag its nervous system before the playoffs. John Lannan (4-0) goes on Monday; then, if matters still aren’t settled, ace Gio Gonzalez (21-8) works on Tuesday. You don’t want to think further; that way madness lies. The Phils have Cliff Lee slated Wednesday. Of course, the Braves could be sociable and lose. But they seem disinclined.

Venice Jim

October 1st, 2012
12:31 am

See everyone tomorrow…

chipontheroad

October 1st, 2012
12:41 am

Lane Kiffin

October 1st, 2012
12:43 am

Nolie I respect your comments and wish you no ill will. In fact I was on of many wishing you a speedy recovery. Do I agree with everything you say, no. I will defend your right to say them. The point I was trying to make is that it is sad that bloggers have left for whatever reason. How easy is it to just ignore a comment we don’t agree with? Live and let live I say.

There are bloggers on here obsessed about many things but that is their deal not mine.

For whatever reason some think that ace and I are the same person and that Cab and VJ are the same. I hope those that have left will come back just makes things more interesting to me.

Puma

October 1st, 2012
1:07 am

VJ – never read Boswell, seems like a good writer

Puma

October 1st, 2012
1:07 am

VJ – never read Boswell, seems like a good writer

Here Comes Honey Boo Boo

October 1st, 2012
1:26 am

”We’ve had rough outings before,” manager Davey Johnson said. ”We’ve ”We’ve had rough outings before,” manager Davey Johnson said. ”We’ve bounced back. It’s better to clinch it at home anyway.”

Here Comes Honey Boo Boo

October 1st, 2012
1:27 am

Here Comes Honey Boo Boo

October 1st, 2012
1:28 am

”We’ve had rough outings before,” manager Davey Johnson said. ”We’ve bounced back. It’s better to clinch it at home anyway.”

Here Comes Honey Boo Boo

October 1st, 2012
1:31 am

davey johnson is a cocky, arrogant crypt keeper ! who is he trying to sike out ??? he knew he wished his team would have closed it out today ! :???:

Puma

October 1st, 2012
1:34 am

Of course he did. And he does seem like a grouchy old man whenever he is quoted, but good manager overall.

Frankie

October 1st, 2012
6:58 am

Would have been great if US wins the Ryder Cup but have to say, it’s pretty hard to feel bad when the Euro’s win this thing. Probably not as big of case as makes out to be, but it just seems it means so much more to the Euro’s. On top of it, they party likes it 1999 so even more respect to them afterwards. Well done by the boys across the pond.
Sure Fredi will get some calls on this blog to be fired for US Captain picks of Furyk and Stricker.

Jeff R

October 1st, 2012
7:05 am

The point I was trying to make is that it is sad that bloggers have left for whatever reason. How easy is it to just ignore a comment we don’t agree with? Live and let live I say.

– Loony Muffin (a.k.a, Lane Kiffin)

Some blog this would be if there were no reactions to others’ comments, good or bad. And when someone posts outrageous, aggressive, nasty, or obsessive posts (your dear off-kilter friends ACE and Jorge_Jorge, among others), yes there’s going to be push-back, Loony. Plenty of it.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
7:10 am

Does anyone still want us to catch up to the Nats?

Jeff R

October 1st, 2012
7:13 am

Me, but shouldn’t I?

Ghost of Chipper Jones

October 1st, 2012
7:14 am

Jeff R

October 1st, 2012
7:15 am

So what’s the answer? I’m a-waiting with baited breath.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
7:18 am

You can, I guess, but I’m also thinking of the worst case scenario. If we lose the tiebreaker with the Nats, we have to play again on Friday.Also, we would have played 7 straight (including tiebreaker with WAS) before the play-in Friday. I’m just anxious (scared) about that.

It’s not likely to happen, so I shouldn’t even concern myself with it, but that’s one scary bad situation.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
7:24 am

I’m thinking it may just be better for them to play that play-in. It’s at home and they would get a day off. If they win that game, they know who they’re playing next, and where they will play.

To win the division, they’d have to play on Thursday and win, and then have no idea of who they’re playing or where they are going to play until late Friday night.

Jeff R

October 1st, 2012
7:31 am

Not likely to happen – yes. High stakes, but if the Braves were to tie with the Nats and win, well…

abeeeewright

October 1st, 2012
7:33 am

I don’t get the fear of the play-in game.

It’s an elimination game, just like game 5 of the NLDS and game 7 of the NLCS & WS.

Most every team that wins the WS has to win an elimination game or two during the play-offs.

Jeff R

October 1st, 2012
7:34 am

And I’d add I think the Nats are out of juice. They’re sputtering toward the finish line. Not so the Cards. Which is the tougher opponent for the Braves at this juncture?

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
7:36 am

abee: I’m not really afraid of the play-in game if we go straight to that game. I am a little more worried about it if we tie the Nats and lose to them.

Cards are likely the tougher opponent, but I’ll take my chances with them at home. Beat the Nats in the LDS.

Brian from SC

October 1st, 2012
7:37 am

Yesterday was a very busy day over in the American League. It took two tries, but Texas finally put away the Angels. With that loss by Los Angeles, The Rangers, Yankees, and Orioles all clinched a playoff spot. Oakland will grab the last wild card spot with a win today or a loss by the Angels. And Detroit would take the AL Central with a win or a loss by the floundering White Sox. So the American league can all be sewn up today.

In the senior circuit, Washington failed to put away the Braves, so they’ll try again to clinch the NL East with a win or an Atlanta loss. For the first time, the Cardinals can clinch the last playoff spot today with a win AND a Dodgers loss.

Here’s your magic numbers!

NL East – Washington – 1
NL Central – Cincinnati – clinched
NL West – San Francisco – clinched

NL Playoffs
Washington – clinched
Cincinnati – clinched
San Francisco – clinched
Atlanta – clinched
St. Louis – 2 (relative to Los Angeles)

NL #1 seed – Washington – 3 (own tiebreaker with Cincinnati)
NL #1 wild card – Atlanta – clinched

AL East – New York/Baltimore – 4
AL Central – Detroit – 1
AL West – Texas – 2

AL Playoffs
Texas – clinched
New York – clinched
Baltimore – clinched
Oakland – 1 (relative to Los Angeles)
Detroit – 1 (relative to Chicago for division)

AL #1 seed – Texas – 3 (relative to New York/Baltimore)
AL #1 wild card – New York/Baltimore – 4 (relative to Oakland)

Jeff R

October 1st, 2012
7:39 am

I don’t get the fear of the play-in game.

I get the fear, but the play-in is going to happen and I’m looking forward to it. Could be dramatic.

The preference is for the longer series where one loss doesn’t spell doom (unless it’s the final game of the series).

Brian from SC

October 1st, 2012
7:40 am

The Brewers had a nice run, but were mathematically eliminated with their loss yesterday. Tampa Bay and Los Angeles were both eliminated from their divisions yesterday, and both are on the verge of postseason elimination today. Each would be eliminated with a loss, and both would be eliminated with a win by Oakland. The White Sox will be sent home packing with their next loss or win by Detroit.

Elimination numbers:

NL Playoffs
Los Angeles – 2 (relative to St. Louis)

AL Playoffs
Los Angeles – 1 (relative to Oakland)
Tampa Bay – 1 (relative to Oakland)
Chicago – 1 (relative to Detroit)

abeeeewright

October 1st, 2012
7:41 am

I don’t think the division race is going to end tonight. Braves win and Nats lose. Would make the Nats have to “go hard” in Gio’s last start. I think the Nats “win in” in that last game.

Wouldn’t be unhappy to see the Nats have to keep playing them like they mean something as late as one game left in the season.

Brian from SC

October 1st, 2012
7:42 am

I was thinking the Braves would have a AAA lineup tonight, but as long as they’re still in the division, I guess you can’t do that. Chipper will get a rest, but the rest will probably be in there.

abeeeewright

October 1st, 2012
7:43 am

If, miracle of miracles, the Dodgers catch the Cardinals, I think the easiest path to the NLDS would be through the Wild Card game without a division play-off game.

Braves would get a day off while Cards/Dodgers play an elimination game in LA. Winner hops on a plane to play another elimination game, potentially in the afternoon if the Yankees get the prime-time play-in game.

Brian from SC

October 1st, 2012
7:45 am

A week or two ago, I crunched some probability numbers in a couple of different scenarios, trying to show that maybe it wouldn’t be so bad for the Braves to “punt” the division crown, in case of a tie with Washington, and go with the wild card.

The math wouldn’t cooperate. It’s pretty clearly more favorable to get to the NLDS through a divisional tiebreaker game.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
7:45 am

The fact that these games mean something is good, but it’s a shame that we can’t get those bench guys more ABs. How can you decide between Overbay and Hinske? Baker? I know it won’t really matter for the play-in, but it will matter if we make the LDS.

abeeeewright

October 1st, 2012
7:48 am

Speaking of historic collapses … what if the Nats actually do lose the division to the Braves and then lose the play-in game to the Cards/Dodgers.

That would be six straight losses to end the season after all-but clinching the division with a week to go.

Couch Tater

October 1st, 2012
7:50 am

The Oriole’s charter makes an emergency stop because of smoke in the cabin.

..I wondered how McLouth learned to relax at the plate again.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bs-sp-orioles-nate-mclouth-0930-20120929,0,5277328.story?page=1

“Phone’s ringin’, Dude.”

“Thank you, Donny.”

abeeeewright

October 1st, 2012
7:52 am

Brian … I get the odds favor the tie-breaker to win the division. I was just saying, what if the team they’re playing is worn out because of a west-coast game followed by an afternoon game on the east coast?

Jeff R

October 1st, 2012
7:52 am

I am a little more worried about it if we tie the Nats and lose to them.

I’m more confident of the Braves’ chances against the Nats. Granted, the Braves’ get the Cards at home, but the Nats are wheezing.

Brian from SC

October 1st, 2012
7:55 am

abeee, my analysis didn’t have anything to do with who the Braves would play in the wild card game, or what condition they’d be in, so you surely have a point. If the probability of winning the wild card game goes up to, say…75%, then there’d be a strong case for not wanting the division. Of course, you can’t play based on probabilities like that. It’s just fun for us to think about.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
8:01 am

He’s (McLouth) only 30 years old, so I didn’t understand why he didn’t have his game together,” Duquette said. “We had an opportunity and I wanted to see if we could help him get back to the high level he had performed at in the big leagues.”

Wish we had given him a minor league deal. Now I bet the Orioles keep him for the next few years.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
8:26 am

UKUGA

October 1st, 2012
8:28 am

I like the fear. It means I’m close. It means I’m ready.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3vmpM2FGzU

UKUGA

October 1st, 2012
8:33 am

Interesting that you actually tried to run some numbers on those scenarios Brian.

The way I look at it is this:

If you catch WAS, then you get two chances to win one game.

If you fall short, then you get one chance to win one game.

Advantage: Catch WAS.

Brian from SC

October 1st, 2012
8:36 am

UKUGA, and that is essentially the reason it is mathematically better to tie Washington. You get two shots.

Jeff R

October 1st, 2012
8:51 am

Wish we had given him a minor league deal. Now I bet the Orioles keep him for the next few years.

I think we’d need to see much more from McLouth before deciding he’s back on track.

raleighbravefan

October 1st, 2012
8:54 am

Winners play the games in front of them…and win.

Losers whine about how unfair the system is.

JUST WIN!

Jeff R

October 1st, 2012
8:57 am

JUST WIN!

OKAY! ;)

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
8:59 am

Heyward at .221/.262/.369 since August 27th – 31 games, 130 PA’s. His OPS has dropped 48 points in 31 games.

Since June 5th – .282/.339/.511 – 104 games, 440 PA’s.

Since June 19th – .277/.337/.503 – 92 games, 395 PA’s.

raleighbravefan

October 1st, 2012
9:01 am

Efrim – How much has Uggla picked up during that same time?

Ghost of Chipper Jones

October 1st, 2012
9:01 am

McLOUTH did nothing as a BRAVE. He’s an Orio now, and old news to BRAVES fans everywhere. If he does well I congratulate him and wish him well.

But whatever he does, it’s no skin off the BRAVES’ nose. He didn’t fit in our system, and that’s not the BRAVES’ fault. No manner of decrying what he does elsewhere will change that. Would anyone want KYLE FARNSWORTH or MELKY CABRERA back?

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
9:01 am

Freeman since June 19th – .272/.373/.481 – 90 games, 378 PA’s.

Freeman since August 13th – .217/.322/.428 – 43 games, 180 PA’s.

raleighbravefan

October 1st, 2012
9:05 am

Ghost – Yep, some players have great years and lousy years…Braves have had their share of both. I’ll bet the Yankees had the Javy Vazquez that the Braves had.

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
9:06 am

How much has Uggla picked up during that same time?

Sunce August 23rd, Dan Uggla has hit .267/.376/.448 in 33 games, 125 PA’s.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
9:06 am

All I want Uggla to do is get 1 more HR and 3 more RBI. That will extend his streak to 7 years with 20+ HR and 80+ RBIs. 2 more walks and he makes 95. A good series, and he can end the season with an OBP just over .350. I’ll take that.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
9:09 am

.278/.372/.474/.846 That one looks better. That’s since August 27. :D

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
9:12 am

Heyward just completed a .248/.292/.410 September – his worst month of the season. I think the approach is as bad now as it’s been all year. In May, we didn’t see many groundballs to the right side, slow combackers to the pitcher or pop ups to the left side of the infield. Seeing a bit too much of that over the last 30 games. He did hit a couple of balls on Saturday night vs. Chris Young that looked promising – but they just haven’t gone out in Atlanta this year. Of his 27 HR’s, 18 have been on the road.

It’s a shame, as it’s put a damper on the season that Heyward was having through near 130 games.

Brian from SC

October 1st, 2012
9:13 am

The Braves have allowed only four more runs this season than the Nationals.

UKUGA

October 1st, 2012
9:22 am

Spit on the one game play-in if you want. I get it.

But, it has done exactly what MLB wanted and that is create more intensified interest in the final games of the regular season (Yes, I know, last year was amazing, but also an historical anomaly). Just look at the AL East. That is the exact situation everyone discussed for years when promoting the merits of a one game play-off.

Either the Yankees or Orioles will have to play in the one-gamer, so they have more incentive to win the division. It’s entertaining.

Plus, there is no more punting of the division championship if the two teams tie. They have to play head to head on Thursday if they wind up with the same record.

How awesome would it be to have the Yankees-O’s playing in Baltimore while the Braves-Nats played in Washington?

Obama and Romney would BOTH have to throw out an opening pitch.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
9:22 am

The 2011 Braves went 9-18 in September. The 2012 Braves went 19-8

Last year, the team hit .235 in September. This year, they hit .230

Last year, the pitching staff had a 4.17 ERA in September and was hit at a .263 clip. This year, their ERA was 2.39, and were hit at a .205 clip.

Our pitching will have to be solid if we are to advance far into the playoffs. Hopefully Dan and Prado’s hot streaks are enough for this offense.

Trey

October 1st, 2012
9:30 am

UKUGA, I was against it, when MLB first announced it, into existence. Who knew the Braves would have been in it, when it first came out? However, now they have they Cardinals standing in their way, to the real playoffs, once again, and I don’t like that one bit.

Brian from SC

October 1st, 2012
9:34 am

The Cardinals will pitch Garcia tonight, and Carpenter tomorrow. They are out of the picture for Friday. If they have not clinched, they will need to use Wainwright on Wednesday. If they end up tied with LA, they’ll need Lohse on Thursday, leaving Lynn for Friday.

Probably the most likely scenario is Lohse pitching against Atlanta. I wouldn’t mind seeing Wainwright out of the picture, though. All the more reason to want the Dodgers to stay in there.

The Dodgers will have to use Kershaw on Wednesday. That leaves Blanton for a Thursday game with St. Louis and Beckett for Friday in Atlanta.

cloudodust

October 1st, 2012
9:35 am

With the variety of ‘What if’s’ mentioned throughout this blog, what if the Braves get rained out tomorrow (70% rain in Pittsburgh on Tuesday) and have to play 2 on Wednesday to settle things?

TennesseePaul

October 1st, 2012
9:36 am

Freeman’s last 17 games: .274/.319/.548/.867… the bad news, 4 walks and 20 k’s. It appears he is trying to swing harder through this slump. Just needs to get back to what he’s good at. Use the entire field. Take his walks.

Brian from SC

October 1st, 2012
9:36 am

As far as I can tell, there is no chance that the Braves see a LHP (except for tonight) until the NLDS.

raleighbravefan

October 1st, 2012
9:38 am

I don’t normally care much about the AL, but I will have to admit that I am somewhat intrigued by Baltimore…and the AL east race. My dream would be for Orioles to win division, and for the Yankees to lose to the A’s in the WC. If the Yankees lost in a 1 game elimination, I have no doubt it would be changed before next year. :)

TennesseePaul

October 1st, 2012
9:40 am

If they end up tied with LA

Just seems unlikely that they end up tied. But I am very happy to see the Braves have the Pirates to play while the Dodgers and Giants match up and the Reds and Cards match up… And the Phillies and Nats match up.

I would love a sweep of the Pirates, two home runs and a double for Chipper and for the rest of the team to work out all the kinks in their swings.

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
9:40 am

In his last 20 games, Heyward has hit .205/.259/.359 – no walks, no power, no hits overall. Just bad baseball.

TennesseePaul

October 1st, 2012
9:42 am

If the Yankees lost in a 1 game elimination, I have no doubt it would be changed before next year.

Ha! That would be funny. It will probably happen, but it will be funny watching them vomit out all these platitudes for changing what is already a convoluted and terrible play-off set up.

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
9:42 am

And really it’s the last 17 games – .197/.229/.364 – 70 PA’s.

usnavyvolfaninva

October 1st, 2012
9:44 am

Thanks, CHipper, for 20 awesome years. Will proudly wear my #10 Chipper Jones shirt (not every day, because that’ll get funky), but a big CJ fan through and through.

Murph

October 1st, 2012
9:45 am

Last year, the pitching staff had a 4.17 ERA in September and was hit at a .263 clip. This year, their ERA was 2.39, and were hit at a .205 clip.

Further illustrates that the best moves made by the front office this were getting rid of Lowe and putting Medlen in the rotation.

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
9:45 am

I would love a sweep of the Pirates, two home runs and a double for Chipper and for the rest of the team to work out all the kinks in their swings.

It’s really just Heyward and Freeman that seem to be fighting it. Specifically Heyward. Bourn hasn’t been around, but he did have a good game yesterday. Heyward has been an automatic out as of late and the at bats have been as bad as I’ve seen this year.

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
9:48 am

Braves have potential if they can get to the real playoffs and if Heyward and Bourn can bounce back. Everything else seems to be working well.

TennesseePaul

October 1st, 2012
9:49 am

It’s really just Heyward and Freemam…

Hinske could use a make over. That guy has been terrible for well over a year.

TennesseePaul

October 1st, 2012
9:50 am

Chipper’s September: .230/.356/.297/.653

The team still needs him to be more than a singles hitter.

TennesseePaul

October 1st, 2012
9:51 am

Man, since his trip to NY at the beginning of Sept… .193/.356/.228/.584 (19 games). He needs to get that turned around.

TennesseePaul

October 1st, 2012
9:53 am

It boils down to needed to get Heyward, Freeman, Chipper, and McCann going and hope the recent success of everyone else carries through the end of October.

phil

October 1st, 2012
9:53 am

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
9:40 am

In his last 20 games, Heyward has hit .205/.259/.359 – no walks, no power, no hits overall. Just bad baseball.
************
It’s crunch time….can’t expect Wayward to carry his weight with all that pressure. :roll:

It will all likely be over with in 5 more days anyway.

Murph

October 1st, 2012
9:54 am

Hinske just needs to go away. Not just away, but Scott Proctor, North Korea away. He’s pretty much the most worthless bench player the Braves have had in years.

I know he came up big for the team a while back, and that’s great… but I can’t even remember the last time the dude got on base, let alone actually produced.

That being said, I don’t know that Overbay is much better. The guy seems to have completely forgot how to hit. He’s had, what, one hit since being called up? And I’m pretty sure his eyes were closed when he swung that time.

The team really needs to address the bench next season. If Mejia isn’t going to ever crack the starting lineup, is there a reason why he wouldn’t make a good backup?

phil

October 1st, 2012
9:54 am

Chipper deserves to be booed, as Disgusted says…

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
9:55 am

David O’Brien ‏@ajcbraves
I’d guess all but Hanson. “@JordanP87: @ajcbraves do the Braves go to a 3 or 4 man rotation in the playoffs and who’s in it?”

As it should be…

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
9:55 am

It boils down to needed to get Heyward, Freeman, Chipper, and McCann going and hope the recent success of everyone else carries through the end of October.

Yeah, I guess I don’t consider Freeman struggling too bad. Forgot about Chipper – he hasn’t been good lately. McCann…well, I sorta just think it’s gonna be a fight for him through the end this year. We need Chipper and Jason to get going. Team was 15th in OPS in September, and 11th in the 2nd half. Bad.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
9:57 am

I don’t see how we can choose between Hinske and Overbay for the bench. How does either of them make the LDS roster? How?

DAP

October 1st, 2012
9:57 am

the braves leapfrogged the nationals in avearge attendance over the weekend. we are 14th now with 29,878 per home game. 2,420,171 total. nats have 3 more home games, but they will have to average 30,000 or so every night to catch us.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
9:59 am

Kimbrel needs 2 shutout innings to end the year with a sub 1.00 ERA. I really think that gets him the Cy Young. 8)

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
10:01 am

Would love to see the Dodgers force a play in game with the Cards. That’d be nice to see.

Murph

October 1st, 2012
10:02 am

Who do you start at C in the WC game?

I think you’ve got to go with Ross. Not only is he hitting better than BMac lately, but he’s also throwing out runners. Can’t just give away 2B to the Cards every time they manage to get a single.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
10:06 am

“Who do you start at C in the WC game?”

I didn’t think we were going to be allowed to ask this question. I don’t think Ross has a shot at starting any playoff game, although I think it SHOULD happen.

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
10:06 am

Braves finished with 2,420,171 in attendance this season. With around 50K in the coin flip game, we’ll get to 2.47 million.

We’ve already surpassed the 2011 total, which was 2,372,940.

Tomahawkin

October 1st, 2012
10:07 am

Huge Series Win Against Los Amazins Over the Weekend

I’m So Amped Up for Fridays Game, Hell I might Even Go to It once they Announce the Start Time, Hopefully its a 4PM game???

Giving Props to Fredi for exceeding my predicted 92 win total, We better not get Screwed in that Stupid 1 game Elimination for the WC or Else!!!

jeffrey d

October 1st, 2012
10:08 am

In case it wasn’t mentioned here, here’s Medlen on his first encounter with Chipper in Spring Training (from Schultz’ blog)

He remembers showing up to his first spring training and seeing Jones in the clubhouse.

“I was No. 72,” Medlen said, laughing. “Chipper was standing there watching some hunting show. I was dating a girl from Mississippi who took me duck hunting, so I thought, ‘That’s my icebreaker.’ So I went up to Chipper and said, ‘Hey, I went duck hunting in the delta.’ He looked up and down at me and then looked back at the TV. I was like, ‘OK, maybe I’ll see you again some time. I’ll just go back over here now.” (Visualize another funny look.)

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
10:09 am

I disagree MFin. Fredi seems different this year, more willing to do whatever is beneficial to the team. I think that Ross has a high chance of starting the play-in game. It’s hard to go against what he and Meddux have done together. After that though, I bet he goes to Mac for the LDS if we advance.

Tomahawkin

October 1st, 2012
10:09 am

Trey

“UKUGA, I was against it, when MLB first announced it, into existence. Who knew the Braves would have been in it, when it first came out? However, now they have they Cardinals standing in their way, to the real playoffs, once again, and I don’t like that one bit.”

Co-Sign!

raleighbravefan

October 1st, 2012
10:11 am

phil – You deserve to be booed…or just ignored.

TennesseePaul

October 1st, 2012
10:12 am

We’ve already surpassed the 2011 total, which was 2,372,940

I was watching that this weekend. The team increased the average per game attendance from 29.1K or so per game before the weekend to 29.8K per game after the weekend was over.

I don’t think they count post season in attendance do they?

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
10:12 am

I’m not sure the Braves have a chance at winning the play-in game if they give up more than 1 or 2 runs. That seems how it has been as of late. So you might want to put your best defensive team out there if Ross and McCann are, at worst, equal offensively.

ncscoots

October 1st, 2012
10:14 am

That would be six straight losses to end the season after all-but clinching the division with a week to go.

It would actually be worse than that. They had an 8.5 game lead with three weeks to go. It would, in fact, be a worse collapse than that suffered by the Braves last year.

Which is why I’m calling in every voodoo marker I got, just so I can see it happen. :-)

Lew

October 1st, 2012
10:16 am

scoots – You got voodoo markers?

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
10:17 am

I don’t think so, TenneseePaul. I think the Braves had 2 rainouts last year that caused them to only have “79 home games”. Their average attendance last year was better. 2010 was the best – 2.51 million and that doesn’t count the 2 playoff games. We never really saw that revenue in the roster though…..

ncscoots

October 1st, 2012
10:19 am

Boswell is right about one thing: Nats do not want to see a Wednesday game for all the chips on the table. Lannan losing a game might be one thing, but Gio going belly up on Tuesday? Might get a little tight in the waistband.

Yes, I know how unlikely it is. Don’t care. The improbability of baseball allows some of us to suspend disbelief altogether, if we desire. Which I do, LOL.

squeezeplay

October 1st, 2012
10:20 am

For the next 3 days, I am the Phillies’ #1 fan!

How sweet would it be? If last year taught us anything, it’s that YOU.NEVER.KNOW!

Go Braves!!!!!

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
10:20 am

It would, in fact, be a worse collapse than that suffered by the Braves last year.

scoots is still a believer. Just hasn’t gotten past the fact that our 162 games and 93+ wins will come down to a single nine innings.

By the way, anyone see Rosenthal’s idea for the new playoff format?

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/red-hot-baltimore-orioles-may-force-yankees-into-wild-card-white-sox-tampa-bay-rays-dusty-baker-092912

THE AL CENTRAL: MEDIOCRITY REWARDED

As the example with the Yankees shows, the new postseason format greatly increases the motivation for winning a division title.

One problem: Neither AL Central contender is particularly deserving of the benefit — a bye into the best-of-five Division Series.

The division-leading Tigers hold only the seventh-best record in the 14-team AL, the second-place White Sox only the eighth best.

The wild-card game will feature two teams with better records than either of those clubs — better records, despite playing schedules tougher than the Tigers and White Sox face in the AL Central.

The solution?

Put the qualifiers with the two worst records in the wild-card game. Yes, winning a weak division would be less meaningful, but such a team hardly would be in position to argue — it would be lucky to reach the postseason in the first place.

Couch Tater

October 1st, 2012
10:21 am

That would be six straight losses to end the season after all-but clinching the division with a week to go.

..could be written:

That would be six strait losses to end the season with a week to go after the division. All butt clinching.

raleighbravefan

October 1st, 2012
10:22 am

MFin @10:12 – Not really true. In September, the Braves had 12 games with 2 or less runs…and won 5 of them. They had 15 games with 3 or more runs…..So your statement is basically…wrong.

phil

October 1st, 2012
10:22 am

Heavy Hinske has been awful….I can envision him now, lumbering to the plate on Friday….nightmarish vision.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
10:22 am

“is it beneficial for Braves to catch Nats or prep for WC game?”

How stupid are people on Twitter? Precisely why I can’t take people “twittering” seriously. :roll:

phil

October 1st, 2012
10:24 am

raleighbravefan spreading joy and good cheer this morning….

:-)

raleighbravefan

October 1st, 2012
10:25 am

MFin – I misread your comment…sorry. In September, there were 13 games where we gave up 3 or more runs to the other team…We won 5 of them. Hardly a guaranteed loss.

phil

October 1st, 2012
10:26 am

It’s pretty dadgum impressive to rally from 8 back to within 3….

We’re actually alive for the division going into the final series. Obviously it’s very unlikely we pull it off, but it’s set up to not be totally unthinkable with these matchups.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
10:26 am

Hinske is 1-8 with 3 Ks this month; the 1 hit was a HR. Overbay is 1-16, with 8 Ks. Mercy.

Tomahawkin

October 1st, 2012
10:27 am

phil

“It’s pretty dadgum impressive to rally from 8 back to within 3….

We’re actually alive for the division going into the final series. Obviously it’s very unlikely we pull it off, but it’s set up to not be totally unthinkable with these matchups.”

I rang the bell 6 weeks ago…

phil

October 1st, 2012
10:27 am

Ross should’ve been starting all year….

;-)

Hillbilly

October 1st, 2012
10:27 am

scoots is still a believer. Just hasn’t gotten past the fact that our 162 games and 93+ wins will come down to a single nine innings.

I don’t know that either of us BELIEVE it will happen, but it’s a fun situation to be in. Like I said before, I’ll give up the division when the math says so.

Besides, how awesome would it be to see the Nats fall one win short of the Division with Stephen Strasburg sitting in the clubhouse playing X Box or whatever he’s doing?

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
10:29 am

Overbay has looked overmatched to date.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
10:29 am

“We’re actually alive for the division going into the final series. Obviously it’s very unlikely we pull it off, but it’s set up to not be totally unthinkable with these matchups.”

Yep, now we can start looking back at all the games we blew that are going to cost us the division. ;)

Huddy 3-run homer against the Mets comes to mind. ;)

Kimbrel giving up any of his 7 runs all year long.

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

October 1st, 2012
10:30 am

TennesseePaul

October 1st, 2012
10:31 am

By the way, anyone see Rosenthal’s idea for the new playoff format?

Still trying to find a solution to a self-created problem. Maybe they should try letting the 14 AL teams play 162 games and which ever team has the best record at the end, it can play the best team of the 16 NL teams for the World Series.

… I know, I know… some would complain that a 100 win team didn’t get to the WS because a 101 win team beat them out. Tough luck. That one 9 inning game that was lost should have been won if they want to make it to the final dance.

ncscoots

October 1st, 2012
10:31 am

still a believer.

Can’t help it. Heck, I’ve personally been involved in not-a-chance wins and comebacks and all manner of shake-your-head baseball. And seen even more.

Baseball has a way of writing narratives that make for great MLBN documentaries to be shown next year. And the Chipper angle just makes it kinda possible that you get one of those memorable stories. Hey, if the Nats win a game, I’ll go quietly into the night. Until then, I rage fiercely. :-)

Arkansas Transplant

October 1st, 2012
10:32 am

I’m still looking for us to overtake the Nats.

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
10:32 am

I don’t like seeing bad baseball teams in the postseason – but I will be rooting for the Yankees to play that coin flip game and lose. Can’t wait to see Selig and FOX/TBS execs steaming mad.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
10:33 am

“Overbay has looked overmatched to date.”

[enter bench guys name here] has looked overmatched to date.

Tomahawkin

October 1st, 2012
10:33 am

Our Bench is Nasty, hope we don’t have to rely on them coming through in late clutch situations if we make the playoffs

phil

October 1st, 2012
10:34 am

Yep….

But this is baseball, that most of us don’t understand, so it’s okay that we threw away some games earlier in the year….

You know, back when they were meaningless. Being upset about it at the time was wrong, because this is baseball, that most of us don’t understand.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
10:35 am

“Until then, I rage fiercely.”

I like the raging optimism it keeps some of us sane. ;)

phil

October 1st, 2012
10:35 am

I was raging last night and broke a window….

ncscoots

October 1st, 2012
10:35 am

Besides, how awesome would it be to see the Nats fall one win short of the Division with Stephen Strasburg sitting in the clubhouse playing X Box or whatever he’s doing?

Warren Buffet doesn’t have enough money to buy that feeling from me.

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
10:35 am

… I know, I know… some would complain that a 100 win team didn’t get to the WS because a 101 win team beat them out. Tough luck.

I’m actually okay with that scenario. I’ve always been for just get me the best two teams from each league and call it a day – as long as the schedules are balanced. And make the World Series Best out of 9. ;)

Murph

October 1st, 2012
10:37 am

phil, you seem especially pout-pout fish today… why the blub bluuuub bluuuuuuuubs?

Cheer up man.

phil

October 1st, 2012
10:39 am

I’m great, Murph….just being silly. And venting a little about the meaningless games that could’ve been.

It’s cloudy out too.

ncscoots

October 1st, 2012
10:39 am

phil, you seem especially pout-pout fish today

phil’s getting his game face on for possible elimination games. :-)

Hillbilly

October 1st, 2012
10:41 am

Overbay has looked overmatched to date.

8 Ks in his 16 plate appearances. He looks completely out of sorts at the plate.

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
10:41 am

Braves have fallen to 12th in the NL in OPS since the All Star Break – .234/.316/.372. They are only ahead of the Cubs, Mets, Marlins and Astros.

Trey

October 1st, 2012
10:41 am

I don’t see why a team with a worse record in the WC, should be allowed to participate in the playoffs.

jeffrey d

October 1st, 2012
10:41 am

It’s cloudy out too.

Also, somebody died today.

Murph

October 1st, 2012
10:43 am

I’m a pout pout fish,
With a pout pout face,
So I spread the dreary wearies,
All over the place.

http://nashie.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/image.png

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
10:43 am

“some would complain that a 100 win team didn’t get to the WS because a 101 win team beat them out.”

Still urks me that a team can win the division and get a “bye” from the play-in game when having a worse record than the Wild Card winner.

(Giants/Braves or Detroit/Both AL Wild Card winners)

That to me is absolute lunacy, especially if those teams play in a worse division.

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
10:43 am

If the Braves win one of the next 3 games, they will reach 360 wins over the last four seasons – an average of 90 wins per year. Very well done by the organization. A nice bounce back from the club after a mediocre 2006-2008.

jeffrey d

October 1st, 2012
10:43 am

I don’t see why a team with a worse record in the WC, should be allowed to participate in the playoffs.

Because they beat a team with a better record

UKUGA

October 1st, 2012
10:45 am

I’d be surprised to see Ross start, given that we will probably face a RH starter.

I’m all for Ross starting with McCann available as a pinch hitter, but this may be one of those moves that is ultimately too difficult to justify, given McCann’s history, his over-all ability/potential, and again, the fact that we will likely be facing a RH starter.

Might create some unnecessary drama to start Ross.

But hey, start Ross and win the game and Fredi is a genius.

Maybe it should be Medlen’s choice.

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
10:47 am

How about Kris Medlen? Finishes with 138 IP, 103 hits, 24 ER, 6 HR allowed, 23/120 BB/K ratio, 0.91 WHIP, 1.57 ERA, and a .208/.243/.286 opponents average slash line.

ncscoots

October 1st, 2012
10:47 am

Braves have fallen to 12th in the NL in OPS since the All Star Break

This amazes me, frankly. Larry Bowa and I still think this is supposed to be a deep, lethal lineup. :-)

phil

October 1st, 2012
10:48 am

I would be lying if I said that Friday isn’t a bit of a concern…..we’re pitching a guy with a major league record 23 straight wins by the team with him on the mound.

If that isn’t a recipe for typical Turner Field, it’s all on the line, trouble, I don’t know what else is!

Our luck will face the acid test….time to win one of these damn decisive games!

UKUGA

October 1st, 2012
10:48 am

The debate over who gets in and who doesn’t will continue forever.

If 2 teams make it, then #3 complains. (See college football). If 4 teams make it, then #5 complains.

Everyone remembers 104-103, right? The win totals for the Braves and Giants in 1993?

Now, we’re going to have 90 win teams complaining about not making the play-offs.

Everybody loves the paycheck. Everybody loves having a chance at the title.

Can we over-expand? Of course? Have done it already? Maybe.

But so be it. This is going to be fun. It’s fun right now.

That said, if the Braves lose Friday, then I’m going to be sick. Sick. But, probably not any sicker than I was in ‘91, ‘92, ‘93, ‘96, ‘97, ‘98, ‘99, ‘00, ‘01, ‘02, ‘03, ‘04, ‘05.

phil

October 1st, 2012
10:49 am

Why would we start Mac if he can’t swing the bat?

What sense would that make? I wish he could play, but wishing won’t get it done.

phil

October 1st, 2012
10:50 am

You forgot being sickened in 2010 and 11….

ncscoots

October 1st, 2012
10:50 am

That to me is absolute lunacy, especially if those teams play in a worse division.

What if they had played in a better division? For example, what if the NL East had turned out to be the juggernaut many here thought it would be, with four teams beating up on each other for 72 games of the season? What if the East had been so strong that the division winner won it with 88 wins? Huh? What say you then about W-L records and such? Do the seedings on power rankings, LOL?

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
10:50 am

This amazes me, frankly. Larry Bowa and I still think this is supposed to be a deep, lethal lineup.

We had Bourn, Prado and Uggla going strong in April and May. Heyward and Freeman picked up the slack in June, July and August. Chipper was solid throughout until September, but he wasn’t a regular lineup fixture. McCann has been pretty bad all but one month. Different faces at SS.

Consistency wasn’t there. I was a believer in the offense until mid-August. Which coinsides with Heyward, Chipper and Freeman starting to put together poor stretches.

UKUGA

October 1st, 2012
10:51 am

phil,

I agree 100%. It just seems natural that the Medlen streak will end on Friday. (Of course, officially, it will continue into next season now.)

But that said, if we win that game, I have a hunch the Medlen streak will continue for as long as the Braves are playing this post-season.

I’m not sure that he will feel any more pressure – at least not at home, than he will on Friday night. At least not until the WS.

Shaun

October 1st, 2012
10:51 am

Efrim and TennesseePaul, I too would be okay with the best teams in each league playing in the World Series. But of course that will never happen.

My issue, the problem I see is that the current format doesn’t do enough to reward the very best teams over the long haul and over-rewards teams that play in and win weak divisions.

There certainly is a balance out there to having a playoff system (as opposed to just a World Series) and also rewarding teams that play better than others throughout 162 games.

Murph

October 1st, 2012
10:54 am

0.91 WHIP… 208/.243/.286 opponents average slash line

Medlen has been nothing short of amazing this season.

Win or lose on Friday, he’s the MVP (most valuable pitcher) to me this season. If he doesn’t step into the rotation and dominate the way he did, I think the 2nd half story is much different than it is now.

I thank the Baseball Gods everyday for bringing us Kris Medlen.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
10:54 am

“But hey, start Ross and win the game and Fredi is a genius.”

Same reason Fredi should probably start Minor/Maholm if the other team can’t hit lefties or hasn’t faced one in a while.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
10:54 am

Maybe it should be Medlen’s choice.

Hope he picks Ross! :)

Lew

October 1st, 2012
10:54 am

Why would Medlen’s record end Friday? I haven’t heard anything about it being a regular season only record – just consecutive wins by a team during a pitcher’s starts.

raleighbravefan

October 1st, 2012
10:56 am

Efrim @10:43 – Amen. Thank you Frank Wren.

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
10:56 am

Heyward hit .258/.325/.425 at home with 9 HR’s

He hit .276/.344/.532 on the road with 18 HR’s.

.223/.281./.356 vs. LHP

.297/.369/.562 vs RHP

Lew

October 1st, 2012
10:56 am

Not to mention that he already holds the record which (if you go by the last 90 or so years) won’t be broken anytime in the next couple of decades at least.

UKUGA

October 1st, 2012
10:58 am

Lew, You may be right, but in my entire baseball life, I’ve always heard records/stats in baseball discussed entirely within the context of regular season v. post-season.

Brian from SC

October 1st, 2012
10:58 am

Lew, playoff stats are records have always been kept separate from regular season. A lot of times, you’ll see the addendum (including playoffs) if someone wants to use those stats, but officially, they’re always separate.

Trey

October 1st, 2012
10:58 am

jeffrey, what’s your point? They shouldn’t have that friggin’ opportunity.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
10:59 am

I thank the Baseball Gods everyday for bringing us Kris Medlen.

He was our Zack Greinke at the deadline.

phil

October 1st, 2012
10:59 am

Oh, the pressure on Friday will unbearable….

These guys aren’t stupid. They realize this franchise has lost more decisive games, especially at home, in the last 12 years or so to sink a ship.

How could you not feel pressure to end a run of futility like that? That said, will the men show up Friday or the little scared first graders that we’ve grown accustomed to seeing out there when it’s all on the line? We have to hit the damn baseball on Friday and put some runs on the board or it will be over quickly. I’m just so tired of losing these decisive games that I can’t see straight….

ncscoots

October 1st, 2012
10:59 am

But hey, start Ross and win the game and Fredi is a genius

Considering he’d have to be brain-dead to do that, I think it’s unlikely to happen. If McCann’s shoulder is still attached to his body, he starts. Anything else would be…well, a word I’d hate to use for fear of insulting folks.

phil

October 1st, 2012
11:00 am

I suspect Lew knew that, Brian…..sigh.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
11:01 am

ncscoots – I’m fine with one Wild Card. Seems stupid to have a 95-win Wild Card and a 85-Win Wild Card play each other in a 1-game playoff to see who is better.

So at the end of the day you have a 86 win team making the playoffs over a 95 win team? Or an 96 win team making the playoffs over a 85 win team? No thanks with that system.

jeffrey d

October 1st, 2012
11:01 am

phil

October 1st, 2012
11:02 am

I’ll say it again.

If Mac’s shoulder is shot, why in the hell would you play him? If he can’t hit the ball out of the park, then no way he should play. His blazing speed on the basepaths is certainly no reason to play him.

We need to win the damn game, not worry about who the long time starter has been.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
11:04 am

“He was our Zack Greinke at the deadline.”

Nah better than that, more like our Paul Maholm at the deadline.

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
11:04 am

Well, at least Bourn is back healthy. Otherwise, Fredi might of hit Jose Constanza leadoff in an elimination game……

Bat Masterson

October 1st, 2012
11:04 am

We’ll see about Heap during the next three games. He’s put up some good ABs lately.

Shaun

October 1st, 2012
11:05 am

ncscoots, just because a particular way of seeding teams (by record, even with an unbalanced schedule) may not be perfect or ideal, doesn’t mean it is worse than the current way teams are seeded.

You are arguing because this way isn’t ideal, MLB should just go ahead with an even less ideal set-up.

But, I’m with you. I say make the schedules balanced and seed teams by record.

TennesseePaul

October 1st, 2012
11:05 am

Why would Medlen’s record end Friday? I haven’t heard anything about it being a regular season only record – just consecutive wins by a team during a pitcher’s starts.

It wouldn’t end Friday. It will only end when the team takes a loss in a regular season game he starts. Until then, his record lives.

Besides, he’ll win Friday and I’ll gleefully point to that as yet another win in his stretch….

TennesseePaul

October 1st, 2012
11:06 am

You are arguing because this way isn’t ideal, MLB should just go ahead with an even less ideal set-up.

Any set up which results in losers in the post season is already a bad idea.

TennesseePaul

October 1st, 2012
11:08 am

Well, at least Bourn is back healthy. Otherwise, Fredi might of hit Jose Constanza leadoff in an elimination game…

So true. I hope the PR team and number crunchers for the Braves sit down with Fredi and explain to him the many different ways that Biff sucks. They can start off with his bat licking and proceed from there.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
11:10 am

Paul Maholm? Greinke has been the best starter acquired at the deadline by far. He’s pitched well. A rotation of Medlen, Greinke, Hudson, and Minor would have been pretty scary heading into the playoffs, I must say. Maybe next year. :D

raleighbravefan

October 1st, 2012
11:11 am

We may not like it…we may hate it…but “it is what it is”. You play the games you are given to play. Winners win those games. Losers whine about the unfairness.

BTW, last year we would have loved the new system, or at least been greatful for the opportunity. If we had won, and gone on to the WS, would anyone (Braves fans) be complaining?

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
11:11 am

Saw that Capuano and Kershaw are scheduled to pitch Tuesday and Wednesday – so we will not face a LHP during the coin flip contest on Friday.

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
11:12 am

Our old friend Jeff Locke goes tonight for Pittsburgh. Tries to take the NL East title away from the team that traded him 3.5 years ago.

phil

October 1st, 2012
11:13 am

Bourn’s big ole wrapped up thumb didn’t look healthy….

But he played well. Maybe the rest will help.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
11:14 am

“BTW, last year we would have loved the new system, or at least been greatful for the opportunity. If we had won, and gone on to the WS, would anyone (Braves fans) be complaining?”

Nah I still wouldn’t have liked the play-in game last year, I was glad when the collapse was over. That one dragged out for over a month beginning with the Kimbrel meltdown in St Louis that started the downturn.

I say it’s time to ditch this system and move on to a new one or back to the old one. It clearly is broken.

TennesseePaul

October 1st, 2012
11:15 am

Our old friend Jeff Locke goes tonight for Pittsburgh. Tries to take the NL East title away from the team that traded him 3.5 years ago.

You sure about that… this team doesn’t trade young pitchers. ( :

phil

October 1st, 2012
11:15 am

Exactly.

Win the game.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
11:17 am

Yes Greinke is clearly the best pitcher EVER.

Greinke 13 games 3.53 ERA 1.19 WHIP
Maholm 10 games 3.64 ERA 1.20 WHIP

Definitely worth the extra $10 million in salary.

Arkansas Transplant

October 1st, 2012
11:18 am

Greinke 13 games 3.53 ERA 1.19 WHIP
Maholm 10 games 3.64 ERA 1.20 WHIP

Not exactly a fair comparison.. where’s Maholm’s additional 3 games?

Murph

October 1st, 2012
11:21 am

Ross and BMac actually had very similar Septembers… 4 XBH each, a few RBI, a lot of K’s, etc.

Neither one can really be counted on to produce much with the bat. Ross gives the team a better shot to throw out runners, but with Medlen on the mound, I doubt the Cardinals will be running much either way. The guy has one of the best pickoff moves for a RH that I’ve ever seen.

Shaun

October 1st, 2012
11:22 am

We may not like it…we may hate it…but “it is what it is”. You play the games you are given to play. Winners win those games. Losers whine about the unfairness.

raleighbravefan, regardless of the results, this system is unfair. Any system that allows a team like the 2012 Tigers a bye in the one-game round while forcing a team like the Yankees or A’s into a one-game playoff is unfair. This is much bigger than the Braves and whether this system favors the Braves, would have favored them last season, etc. It’s about making the regular season mean something more than it does now and not over-rewarding the 6th- or 7th-best team in the AL with a first round bye, for example.

Any set up which results in losers in the post season is already a bad idea.

No. Any set-up that rewards a team playing in and winning a weak division over clearly superior teams who don’t have the fortune of playing in weak divisions is a bad idea.

raleighbravefan

October 1st, 2012
11:23 am

TOBF – I expect the Angels to sign Greinke…or Dodgers get in a bidding war with them. Either way, he will be too expensive for us.

Arkansas Transplant

October 1st, 2012
11:23 am

Anything short of a win on Friday and this season would be a failure.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
11:24 am

“But with Medlen on the mound, I doubt the Cardinals will be running much either way. The guy has one of the best pickoff moves for a RH that I’ve ever seen.”

Teams have been running on Med’s a lot more lately it seems. I mean gotta do something to score runs when a guy has a sub 1.00 ERA. And with McCann behind the plate you bet your bottom dollar teams are going to run in a 1-game playoff, pickoff move or not.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
11:25 am

Greinke would have cost us about 2mil more by my calculations. (2mil for Maholm after trade, 4.5mil for Greinke)

Maholm 7quality starts out of 10 total (currently 2 straight qual. starts) 6IP/start

Greinke 9quality starts out of 13 total (currently 8 straight) Just under 7IP/start. And Greinke’s been shutdown over his last 8 starts. 2.04 ERA. Maholm doesn’t come close.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
11:27 am

Not exactly a fair comparison.. where’s Maholm’s additional 3 games?

He’s only started 10 with the Braves… the Angels got an “extra” start from Greinke at the end of July

phil

October 1st, 2012
11:28 am

Nah, the season won’t be a failure, but it would be a tremendous disappointment resulting in millions in property damage across the state and region…

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
11:29 am

Yes Greinke is clearly the best pitcher EVER.

Didn’t say that anyway, but you can’t deny that he was the best pitcher moved at the deadline. Best pitcher ever isn’t Greinke, that honor goes to JJ.

Murph

October 1st, 2012
11:30 am

The Red Sox’s season has been a failure. The Phillies’ season has been a failure. If the Braves lose on Friday, I won’t consider their season to be a failure.

raleighbravefan

October 1st, 2012
11:30 am

Shaun – Of course, we could go back to 2 8-team leagues, with the winners meeting in the WS, and everyone else going home, if you really want to be “fair”. Life isn’t fair. Get over it, and play the games.

Arkansas Transplant

October 1st, 2012
11:30 am

TOBF, my point on that comparison was the fact that not only was Greinke’s numbers better but they were better over a larger sample. There’s no comparison out of Maholm and Greinke on which one of these pitchers is the better quality starter… no comparison.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
11:31 am

TheOnlyBravesFan – Cherry picking. Guys have been equally the same pitcher.

Maholm 70% QS
Greinke 69% QS

Maholm has a 0.00 ERA in his last 1 starts. Greinke in his most important last start of the year had a 4.50+ ERA.

phil

October 1st, 2012
11:33 am

But you play the season with hopes of winning a championship….

It would certainly be disappointing, to say the least.

Then again, with some of you guys, winning the games doesn’t really seem to matter.

Everybody is a winner, no matter what. :roll:

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
11:34 am

1 start… nice sample size. You really want to tell me that you would rather have Maholm on your staff rather than Greinke? Seriously? Take price out of it.

Dave Haller ‏@HallerDave
Eckersley in ‘90: 0.61 ERA, 73.1 IP, 41 H, 9 R, 5 ER, 73 SO, 48 saves.

Rodney in ‘12: 0.61 ERA, 73.1 IP, 41 H, 9 R, 5 ER, 74 SO, 46 saves.

Trey

October 1st, 2012
11:36 am

Jeffrey, if your buddy Selig decided to have the first place WC team play the last place WC team in the playoffs, you’d support that too, wouldn’t you?

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
11:37 am

“but you can’t deny that he was the best pitcher moved at the deadline”

“Greinke has been the best starter acquired at the deadline by far.”

Yes I can. Maholm has been just as good if not better. And the Braves got Reed Johnson in the deal making that deal WAY better than the Greinke deal. Guy that mashes LH pitching on a team that can’t hit lefties. The Maholm deal is much better than the Greinke deal.

And look at the numbers no rationale person would say there is a significant difference between the two.

Greinke 13 games 3.53 ERA 1.19 WHIP 69% QS
Maholm 10 games 3.64 ERA 1.20 WHIP 70% QS

“Greinke has been the best starter acquired at the deadline by far.”

Seriously? BY FAR!?! It isn’t even close!? How is that not even close?

raleighbravefan

October 1st, 2012
11:38 am

AT @11:23 – BS (IMO). This has already been a successful year.

raleighbravefan

October 1st, 2012
11:41 am

TOBY @11:25 – You are not including the cost in prospect/players for a rental.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
11:42 am

Maholm is better. Wow. A 30 yr old soft-tossing lefty is better than a 28yr old strikeout pitcher. And yet he won’t be starting GM1 of the NLDS, which Greinke would be if the Angels had a bullpen.

Was the deal that we got better? Yes. Was it a good deal? Yes, we got JJ out the rotation and also picked up a good bench player. But you can’t convince me that Maholm is better than Greinke. Not happening.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
11:42 am

“This has already been a successful year.”

I’d agree with that. 93+ wins is a phenomenal season. Unfortunately the stupid Wild Card rule has made that feat unimportant. Now we have to play a sub 90 win team at the end of the year to see who is “better.”

TennesseePaul

October 1st, 2012
11:43 am


_________GS_QS__ERA___IP_IP/G__WHIP_H/9_W/9_K/9__K/W
Maholm.. 10 06 3.65 61.2 6.0+ 1.200 8.5 2.3 7.4 3.19
Dempster 11 07 4.32 66.0 6.0= 1.394 9.3 3.3 9.1 2.79
Greinke. 13 08 3.53 89.1 6.2+ 1.187 8.9 2.6 7.9 3.00

TennesseePaul

October 1st, 2012
11:44 am

Unfortunately the stupid Wild Card rule has made that feat unimportant

Without that “wild card rule” this team would not be playing in October even with 93 wins.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
11:44 am

“But you can’t convince me that Maholm is better than Greinke.”

I’m not trying to. But hopefully you are thoroughly convinced that “Greinke has been the best starter acquired at the deadline by far” is clearly a false statement. He hasn’t been “by far” better than Maholm to name one. In fact the best you could say is that they’ve been the same.

ncscoots

October 1st, 2012
11:45 am

Now we have to play a sub 90 win team at the end of the year to see who is “better.”

So what? If the Braves advance into the playoffs, teams with better records than they will have to play them to see who is “better”. What’s the difference?

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
11:45 am

Greinke is going to get seriously paid this winter. Six years, $126 million sounds about right. I’d bet the Angels give it to him.

No idea what to make of Josh Hamilton. That should be some story to follow this winter.

raleighbravefan

October 1st, 2012
11:47 am

MFin – NO ONE said they wouldn’t be disappointed. By your measure, 29 teams are FAILURES each year. I look at how we finished last year, and how we will finish this year, and call 93+ wins a success. Ask Red Sox fans.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
11:47 am

“Without that “wild card rule” this team would not be playing in October even with 93 wins.”

Yes they would. They’d be playing the team with the best record in the NL, hopefully the Nationals. Actually strike that, they’d probably be forced to play the Reds.

TennesseePaul

October 1st, 2012
11:47 am

By the way, with 6 quality starts out of 10, Maholm has a 60% rate of quality starts.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
11:48 am

Zack Greinke last 8: 2.04 ERA, he’s 5-0, the team has gone 6-2 (both losses were BP blowups)… 57.1 IP, 50 Ks, 13 BB, 6 HR .204/.249/.330/.579

Maholm’s last 8: 4.34 ERA, he’s 3-3, Braves are 4-4…..45.2 IP, 38 Ks, 14 BB, 5 HR .268/.323/.415/.739

TennesseePaul

October 1st, 2012
11:50 am

Yes they would.

Pardon… by Wild Card rule I was referring to the existence of the Wild Card. I don’t like. Never have. But it is there so be it.

Bat Masterson

October 1st, 2012
11:50 am

Now we have to play a sub 90 win team at the end of the year to see who is “better.”

Nope. They will be playing the game to see who wins.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
11:50 am

raleighbravefan – You’re talking to the wrong guy I think.

MikeInFl

October 1st, 2012
11:53 am

Only problem I have with the 2 wild cards is the length of the series. One game is just not adequate. Should at least have to play 3, so each team has to show a little depth in the rotation.

I think it would be feasible to play a three game series, with one day off; that would leave the division winners idle for about 4 days, which is not ideal, but no worse than the all-star break. Division winners would have a huge advantage, rested and with the rotations set, over the emerging WC winner.

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
11:53 am

Alex Rodriguez has hit .273/.356/.444 in 218 games, 942 PA’s over the last two seasons. He will make the following over the next five years: 13:$28M, 14:$25M, 15:$21M, 16:$20M, 17:$20M

Jimmy

October 1st, 2012
11:53 am

With the Wild Card game coming up on Friday, what do you think the starting rotation will look like in 2014? Discuss please. :-)

Alot of things have to happen for us not to play Friday. I’ll just treating it like a game seven.

But like some others feel, the truth is we aren’t eliminated from the Division crown, until we are eliminated.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
11:54 am

I like the Wild Card, I just don’t like the two wild card system. I think it thoroughly waters down the wild card in order to try and artificially create drama.

Now I think the only solution at this point is to make the Wild Card a 3-game series. But that would take away all the drama so they aren’t going to do that because they are all about the artificial drama. But it’s absolutely absurd to have a 1-game playoff when your whole season is based on 3-game series.

TennesseePaul

October 1st, 2012
11:54 am

No idea what to make of Josh Hamilton. That should be some story to follow this winter.

Yup. I wouldn’t hold back because of his history. I’d old back because his history makes him over 30 and I don’t agree with extremely long term deals for players over 30. I can understand why he’ll aim for one, and as a player I’d do the same. But as a GM, I’d be looking for a shorter deal. 3/4 years.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
11:57 am

ESPN the Magazine has a great article on “safe” values of long-term deals of upcoming free agents. Josh Hamilton I believe was in the safe range of $20-25 million a year. ;)

raleighbravefan

October 1st, 2012
11:57 am

I love Josh Hamilton…Great story…Bonus, he’s a Raleigh boy…But I wouldn’t touch him with a 10 foot pole…for the $$$ he will get, and ESPECIALLY for the years he will get. Way too much risk, at least for our payroll.

ncscoots

October 1st, 2012
11:57 am

by Wild Card rule I was referring to the existence of the Wild Card. I don’t like. Never have. But it is there so be it.

Exactly. If you’re letting second-place teams in, why not third-place? Whatever.

Folks are making the mistake of thinking that a second-place finish, of any sort, entitles such a team to something. I happen to disagree.

TennesseePaul

October 1st, 2012
11:57 am

I think it thoroughly waters down the wild card

Ha!

Yes. In all my rantings about the Wild Card, I neglected the angle in which the latest format compromises its very integrity!

TennesseePaul

October 1st, 2012
11:58 am

Should at least have to play 3, so each team has to show a little depth in the rotation.

This would do more to punish the Division winner than anything… sitting around for a weak while the losers fight it out isn’t a reward in baseball.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
12:00 pm

Brave OBP
Chipper 0.377
Prado 0.359
Simmons 0.349
Bourn 0.348
Uggla 0.347
Freeman 0.344
Heyward 0.334
McCann 0.299

Might wanna reconstruct our lineup, eh? ;)

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
12:00 pm

With the Wild Card game coming up on Friday, what do you think the starting rotation will look like in 2014? Discuss please.

I gotta say – what is there, a 85% chance we will be facing the Cardinals and Kyle Lohse on Friday in Atlanta?

Medlen is going to face the toughest lineup he has all 2nd half since he’s became a starter – we’ll see how that goes.

Lohse is has pitched well all year. Glad he is right handed. Cards bullpen hasn’t been great this year, but each of their relievers have good stuff……just hasn’t translated that well this year.

Jimmy

October 1st, 2012
12:00 pm

MikeinFl @11:53. Yes sir, that would work.

In fact, I believe that is what will happen starting in 2013. They pushed this through this year and could only afford a one gamer, schedule-wise.

I’m fairly certain that it goes to a three series next year. With the last two at the best records park. The MLBPA doesn’t like the one gamer either, but both sides wanted to add another team in 2012 and had no other option.

Murph

October 1st, 2012
12:00 pm

Alex Rodriguez has hit .273/.356/.444 in 218 games, 942 PA’s over the last two seasons. He will make the following over the next five years: 13:$28M, 14:$25M, 15:$21M, 16:$20M, 17:$20M

I love the Yankees for deals like this. Love ‘em. It’s so beyond ridiculous that it makes me smile every time I see it.

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
12:05 pm

Medlen’s opponents since shifting to the starting rotation:

Marlins, Astros, Mets, Padres, Nationals, Padres, Rockies, Mets, Nationals, Marlins, Marlins, Mets…….

Medlen did not face Giancarlo Stanton during any start vs. the Marlins.

Yes, the Cardinals will easily be his most difficult test to date.

MikeInFl

October 1st, 2012
12:06 pm

This would do more to punish the Division winner than anything… sitting around for a weak while the losers fight it out isn’t a reward in baseball.

I think you’re making a big assumption there, though I understand the thought. My guess is that if you polled the Nats, Yankees, etc., there wouldn’t be too much complaint about a few days off… but of course I’m only guessing.

But regardless, you have the same circumstance if an NL team wins its NLCS in 4 games, but the ALCS drags out for 7. With days off, that’s a longer break than I’m proposing.

Only thing that really makes sense (without going backwards, which Baseball is not going to do) is to get to four divisions, with winners in the playoffs.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
12:09 pm

“Should at least have to play 3, so each team has to show a little depth in the rotation.

This would do more to punish the Division winner than anything… sitting around for a weak while the losers fight it out isn’t a reward in baseball.”

Ok, so make one of them a double header. ;)

I don’t think 3 days off is going to really kill a team. Not in a 5-game series. Teams having batting cages, video simulators, etc. It may hurt hitters but it could help starting pitchers and overused bullpens so it might be a wash.

David O'Brien

October 1st, 2012
12:12 pm

Though I’d take first flight out of Atlanta today, get to Pittsburgh in time that I wouldn’t have to rush to get blog done, etc. So I take 7:30 flight, out of house at 5:30 a.m. And what happens? Our Delta flight gets diverted to Akron, Ohio, because there’s fog/rain in Pittsburgh this morning and our Delta flight didn’t have a full load of fuel because they didn’t anticipate having a holding pattern.

So we went to Akron to refuel and then waited to get a slot to land in Pittsburgh. My flight landed at same time as Bowman’s flight, which took off 1:40 later.

Niiiiiice.

monty

October 1st, 2012
12:12 pm

“Yes he is”—”no he’s not”——–”Yes he is”—”no he’s not”…….

That’s good stuff there!

UKUGA

October 1st, 2012
12:12 pm

It’s fun to complain about the play-off format, but in doing so, I think we can miss the reality that Major League Baseball is an entity that wants to maximize profit for itself and all its 30 teams. The teams compete within this entity, but cannot stand on their own outside of MLB.

I suspect that MLB has some huge financial incentives in creating drama from coast to coast, and creating a system in which every 5th team has a shot at a division championship, and is assured a play-off spot.

Is it fair to the East Coast teams? Well, it depends on what you consider fair. Is it fair to the Tigers and Royals that Detroit and Kansas City are not as significant markets as New York, Boston, or even Atlanta?

Perhaps, for the sake of fairness, the Yankees will agree to give up their market and trade places with the Royals for a few years. Then, the Yankees wouldn’t have to suffer through the gauntlet of Baltimore, Toronto and Tampa Bay every summer.

Somehwere along the lines, professional sports leagues and team owners have come to realize that there is never going to be perfect balance.
Sure, we as fans can sit here and talk about how ridiculous it is to have interleague play that pits the Mets v. Yankees for six games, while the Brewers get the Royals for 6. It isn’t fair. I don’t like it and wish it would change.

But, again, I have to believe that besides the obvious financial incentives that we can see on the front line, there is a lot of behind the scenes wrangling that sees lower- and mid-tier market teams pushing for these very things that we are citing as being unfair. The smaller market teams want the 6 division winners and the two extra wild cards. They want the Yankees and Mets facing off 6 times per year.
Not only does it (unfairly) make it tougher on the major market teams, it also generates more revenue for the league, which helps everyone.

These are the rules. It’s very exciting and I find myself intrigued by the possibilities of the final week. I can’t wait to see how it all unfolds.

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
12:12 pm

Howard Bryant ‏@hbryant42
The all-time leaders in WAR=same list of all-time greats using the traditional, meaningless stats. It’s still the same wheel, folks.

CB

October 1st, 2012
12:13 pm

I know some might feel the season is a failure if we don’t win the play- in game. I get where they are coming from, me I remember all the great baseball we were given in Chipper’s final season. No way will I consider it a failure, only be disappointed with final game results. We just live in a time when you don’t win it all you are a loser. Pitiful thinking.

raleighbravefan

October 1st, 2012
12:13 pm

As I said earlier, if the Yankees lose a 1 game play-in WC game, the format will be changed for future years.

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

October 1st, 2012
12:18 pm

DOB

Ugh…that’s really annoying…

BravesFanInMaine

October 1st, 2012
12:19 pm

Lets go Braves!!!! still think mlb should shorten the season a little and have more teams in the playoffs

Jimmy

October 1st, 2012
12:19 pm

Correction – The One Gamer is built into the system. The thing that changes next year is that the WildCard winner WILL NOT host the first two games of the LDS, like they will this year. It will go back to the 2-2-1 format in 2013.

And the MLBPA didn’t speak out against the format, but several players and managers did.

I was remembering incorrectly.

Thorry Thir!! :-)

CB

October 1st, 2012
12:19 pm

DOB.I heard Bowman had to stop at Golden Corral for the breakfast buffet before he could leave.

DS1

October 1st, 2012
12:19 pm

DOB

The best laid plans……………

monty

October 1st, 2012
12:19 pm

Can’t really see starting BMAC Friday unless his shoulder has suddenly stopped hurting when he swings the bat and has some terrrific BP’s. We’ll need our best defensive catcher Friday who happens to be hitting as good if not better than McCann presently.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
12:21 pm

“The all-time leaders in WAR=same list of all-time greats using the traditional, meaningless stats. It’s still the same wheel, folks.”

It’d be really funny if WAR was secretly based on HRs and RBIs and Pitcher Wins and they just created giant excel formulas to disguise that fact. ;)

Choppinmama

October 1st, 2012
12:21 pm

Hello all! Don’t you hate it when life gets in the way of Braves bb and blogging?? No posting time lately, but my schedule’s clear now! I came up for Chipper’s salute night and for his last home game on Sun. Talk about a bittersweet experience. I almost broke into tears watching his salute to the fans and career review he filmed and that they showed at the games. So emotional.

Family and friends told me the commentators commented on my Fri. sign that said “Happy Trails Ol’ Hoss.” So many cute and clever signs for #10. The ajc should run a dedicated page of nothing but signage.

As nervous as I am about Fri’s game now, I’ll be a basket casket case that night!

DS1

October 1st, 2012
12:22 pm

Best way to get around all this complaining about the play in game is to just win the darned thing and get on with the rest of the playoffs.

DAP

October 1st, 2012
12:22 pm

mikeinfl Should at least have to play 3, so each team has to show a little depth in the rotation.

so being there after 162 doesnt prove depth of the rotation?

UKUGA

October 1st, 2012
12:23 pm

It’s hard to find someone to attend a game with when they don’t know what time the game starts.

Lemke's Knuckler

October 1st, 2012
12:23 pm

The Braves should end up with 95 wins. I don’t care if they’ve won the division or the wild card, a 95-win team shouldn’t have to play russian roulette in a 1-game playoff. This is just a horrible idea. I would feel the same even if the Braves and Cardinals were reversed.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
12:24 pm

“Can’t really see starting BMAC Friday unless his shoulder has suddenly stopped hurting when he swings the bat and has some terrrific BP’s”

He apparently has been recently playing home run derby in BP with Uggla, Francisco, and Hinske (may be others as well) if I remember correctly.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
12:26 pm

“a 95-win team shouldn’t have to play russian roulette in a 1-game playoff. This is just a horrible idea. I would feel the same even if the Braves and Cardinals were reversed.”

Agreed. The Cardinals absolutely 100% deserved the Wild Card last year. At the same time, the Braves absolutely 100% deserve the Wild Card this year.

DS1

October 1st, 2012
12:28 pm

I really don’t have any illusions of the Nationals losing 3 straight to the Phillies and us sweeping the Pirates, though it is also not outside the realm of possibility.

But just the thought of us winning 1 more game tonight and them getting behind early makes me think about how much pressure will be on them. Can’t hurt us in the long run.

We just need BOTH the Cardinals and the Nats to go into a mini slump here at the end of the season!

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
12:28 pm

I know some might feel the season is a failure if we don’t win the play- in game. I get where they are coming from, me I remember all the great baseball we were given in Chipper’s final season. No way will I consider it a failure, only be disappointed with final game results. We just live in a time when you don’t win it all you are a loser. Pitiful thinking.

Well, we are now in a time when “2nd place” means you’re subjecting yourself to a coin flip game. Where, winning any # of games doesn’t matter unless you’ve won one more than the rival team in the division. It will be interesting to see how owners, execs and fans view teams accomplishments if they continue to lose the coin flip contest. I mean, are there levels of failure?

I have a hard time considering losing Friday not some degree of a failed season. As I’ve pointed out before…. that would mean that this team averages 90 wins a season for four years in a row and played exactly ONE playoff series. I’m not sure what to call that – but it sucks for us fans.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
12:31 pm

“I have a hard time considering losing Friday not some degree of a failed season.”

Only reason I see it as failed it because they built this team to win the Wild Card not the division. Gotta spend a little more to compete for the division. Hopefully settling for a 1-game playoff isn’t ok for the front office. It made sense to settle for the Wild Card in past years, now it is just too much of a risk.

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
12:31 pm

Averaged 90 wins a season over the course of four years, I should say.

Arkansas Transplant

October 1st, 2012
12:34 pm

raleighbravefan @ 11:38, fair enough but your success on the season is always measured by your success or lack of success in the playoffs.

DS1

October 1st, 2012
12:35 pm

Tied for third best record in baseball. Not a bad feat so far.

Frankie

October 1st, 2012
12:35 pm

I’m sure probably been discussed last couple of days regarding overall attendance. Took the family to Chipper’s big night and just a nightmare. 2 hours to get parking lot(30 miles north of field) and 45 minutes trying to get out of the lot after the game and back to the house at midnight. I know sold out and have to expect issues but when you leave the house at 4pm for a 7:30 game and barely arrive for scheduled ceremony, makes you think twice about the production of getting to Turner Field. Great field, horrific surroundings, easy to understand why people do make it a habit to attend. Getting 2.4M in attendance is actually pretty solid(although having the Yanks in town and Chipper weekend helped out)

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
12:35 pm

I don’t really care what the Nationals do or don’t do. It would be really nice for the Braves to win out the rest of their games.

jeffrey d

October 1st, 2012
12:36 pm

Jeffrey, if your buddy Selig decided to have the first place WC team play the last place WC team in the playoffs, you’d support that too, wouldn’t you?

1) How is Selig my buddy?
2) Isn’t that what they already do?

Frankie

October 1st, 2012
12:37 pm

guess should read don’t make a habit but you get my catch

Shaun

October 1st, 2012
12:37 pm

Folks are making the mistake of thinking that a second-place finish, of any sort, entitles such a team to something. I happen to disagree.

I think playing better than another team throughout 162 games should entitle the team that played better to some sort of edge in the postseason, where it’s either one-game series or five-game series or seven-game series.

Shaun – Of course, we could go back to 2 8-team leagues, with the winners meeting in the WS, and everyone else going home, if you really want to be “fair”. Life isn’t fair. Get over it, and play the games.

MLB could do that. Or MLB could just come up with a playoff system that lets in multiple teams from each league and does more to reward the teams that proved themselves over 162 games than does the current system.

Yes, I agree. No team should whine and any team playing in the one-game playoff should not complain. But I’m just talking about how to improve the game and the playoff system, not about whether a team should whine or complain. Those are separate topics.

Howard Bryant ‏@hbryant42
The all-time leaders in WAR=same list of all-time greats using the traditional, meaningless stats. It’s still the same wheel, folks.

Is that why many of the “traditionalist” are arguing that Miguel Cabrera is the AL MVP when Mike Trout has actually been the AL MVP?

Bat Masterson

October 1st, 2012
12:38 pm

Off topic but Dexter and Homeland got of to a good start last night.

DS1

October 1st, 2012
12:40 pm

Efrim

I’ve never thought or said I wouldn’t be disappointed if we don’t advance. It’ll be a HUGE disappointment for me (and most of us here).

But I refuse to say it was a disappointing season if we don’t advance. This team has had a very good year. I have always thought it would be hard to gauge the season early on; we coulda went either way.

I’m just glad that we have had a successful season for Chipper’s last one. Now here’s to hoping we run the table. Stranger things have happened.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
12:40 pm

Thing is, despite our regular season success, there aren’t any trophies or rings handed out for that. Not 1. We won’t get a 3rd place trophy because we had the 3rd best record in baseball.

I would be disappointed if we lose in the play-in, but I wouldn’t call the season a failure though.

Tomahawkin

October 1st, 2012
12:40 pm

UKUGA

“It’s hard to find someone to attend a game with when they don’t know what time the game starts.”

Yeah Really! Its Gonna Be a Tough Traffic day in Atlanta on Friday, I hope its a 4pm start time

Venice Jim

October 1st, 2012
12:40 pm

Interesting non-sports announcement:

Wash. Post TV Team ‏@WaPoTeamTV
Seth MacFarlane to host the Academy Awards

Shaun

October 1st, 2012
12:44 pm

This AL MVP debate shows that many of the “traditionalist” are more enslaved to stats than the “stat heads.” The argument for Cabrera is an argument for him leading in three offensive statistics. The argument for Trout is an argument for giving the MVP to the most valuable player. Being a stat head is okay as long as I’m using my stats and we’re not looking in to actual performance.

Lemke's Knuckler

October 1st, 2012
12:44 pm

If the Dodgers and Cards tie, the Cards would travel to LA for a tiebreaker on Thursday and the winner would travel to Atlanta Friday night. That tiebreaker would probably be Lohse vs.Blanton. That would leave Beckett or Lynn set up for the wild card game against the Bravos.

At the very least, I hope the Cards have to pitch Wainwright on Wednesday to clinch the wild card so we don’t have to face him Friday night.

DS1

October 1st, 2012
12:45 pm

Bat

How many hits did Dexter (Fowler) get??

:wink:

Rumor has it he will be our next CF’er.

nolie

October 1st, 2012
12:46 pm

I think you’ve got to go with Ross. Not only is he hitting better than BMac lately, but he’s also throwing out runners…Murph

if the Cards start a righty, and it looks like they will, BMac will start at catcher most likely

Trey

October 1st, 2012
12:46 pm

“Isn’t that what they already do?”

No, I was referring to last place in the WC. Not the current system.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
12:48 pm

I like our chances on Friday as long as there aren’t lefties involved. ;)

UKUGA

October 1st, 2012
12:48 pm

Howard Bryant > Shaun

UKUGA

October 1st, 2012
12:49 pm

Would love to see the Cards have to travel to LA for a Thursday game, followed by a 3:00 PM start on Friday.

nolie

October 1st, 2012
12:49 pm

Then again, with some of you guys, winning the games doesn’t really seem to matter…phil

yeah right what you really mean is that if we don’t win we can handle our disappointment without acting out like a 12 year old entering puberty… :roll:

Bat Masterson

October 1st, 2012
12:49 pm

Wayne_

One for one.

I haven’t given any thought to next years center fielder, yet. I’m wrapped up in this season playing out as, too good to be true.

Murph

October 1st, 2012
12:50 pm

nolie!! I didn’t know you were back. How are ya feelin’?

I posted a bunch of ridiculous stuff on Friday and nobody yelled at me. I just kept thinking “I wish nolie were here…”.

Good to see ya back on the ol’ blog.

Shaun

October 1st, 2012
12:53 pm

fair enough but your success on the season is always measured by your success or lack of success in the playoffs.

This is Robert’s way of thinking. One month of games means more than 6 months of games.

Bat Masterson

October 1st, 2012
12:54 pm

Oh, that was Dexter Morgan (one for one)

Shaun

October 1st, 2012
12:54 pm

fair enough but your success on the season is always measured by your success or lack of success in the playoffs.

This is Robert’s way of thinking. One month of games means more than 6 months of games.

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
12:57 pm

Team that would worry me the most in the postseason is the Giants. Three LH relief pitchers(Lopez, Affeldt, and Mirajes) and an excellent starting rotation. Offense has potential to be enough in October as well.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
12:57 pm

“Would love to see the Cards have to travel to LA for a Thursday game, followed by a 3:00 PM start on Friday”

Hey if we are punishing teams for being the Wild Card we mine as well punish teams for tying for the 2nd Wild Card and having to play an extra game. They should make that game at 3:00pm. Serves them right for not winning 93+ games.

Arkansas Transplant

October 1st, 2012
12:59 pm

fail·ure (flyr)
n.
1. The condition or fact of not achieving the desired end or ends: the failure of an experiment.
2. One that fails: a failure at one’s career.
3. The condition or fact of being insufficient or falling short: a crop failure.
4. A cessation of proper functioning or performance: a power failure.
5. Nonperformance of what is requested or expected; omission: failure to report a change of address.
6. The act or fact of failing to pass a course, test, or assignment.
7. A decline in strength or effectiveness.
8. The act or fact of becoming bankrupt or insolvent.

ncscoots

October 1st, 2012
1:01 pm

and an excellent starting rotation.

Semi-excellent. Vogelsong and Lincecum aren’t very scary, at the moment.

I doubt that there are any playoff teams that are all that excited about seeing Hudson, Minor, and Medlen in a playoff series.

phil

October 1st, 2012
1:01 pm

nolie

October 1st, 2012
12:49 pm

Then again, with some of you guys, winning the games doesn’t really seem to matter…phil

yeah right what you really mean is that if we don’t win we can handle our disappointment without acting out like a 12 year old entering puberty…
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Nah. You guys just aren’t “real” fans….anger, rage and vitriol are what it takes!

nolie

October 1st, 2012
1:01 pm

great season. if we lose out it will be disappointing of course, but that ≠ failure.
some of y’all have way too much of your ego invested in your sports teams

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
1:01 pm

Heyward at .260/.352/.447 for his young career. Be nice to see him finish above .800 OPS at this seasons end.

phil

October 1st, 2012
1:06 pm

It’s not ego for me. I just want to win and acceptance of losing is for sissy boys….

DAP

October 1st, 2012
1:06 pm

shaun when Mike Trout has actually been the AL MVP?

he aint nothing till they call it.

nolie

October 1st, 2012
1:06 pm

I said in the spring that I would be happy if Jason ended the season around 800 or so. of course we would all like better, but I think he showed improvement this season as a hitter, and was much better in the field and on the bases.
He is onea them guys who brings so much extra to the game that he should not be judged strictly on his hitting IMO

jeffrey d

October 1st, 2012
1:08 pm

we can handle our disappointment without acting out like a 12 year old entering puberty…

People on here get really attracted to girls after a loss?

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
1:08 pm

Braves are one win away from averaging 90 wins a season from 2009-2012. That’s something to be really proud of if you’re a fan of the team. They’ve had some bad luck over the last few weeks of September every year until this one – and that happens to be when they changed up the playoff format.

nolie

October 1st, 2012
1:08 pm

its always ego

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
1:10 pm

“You guys just aren’t “real” fans….anger, rage and vitriol are what it takes!”

So by that definition the only “real” Braves are Jason Heyward, Brian McCann, and Eric Hinske.

Shaun

October 1st, 2012
1:10 pm

DAP, well, he’s the American League’s most valuable player. True. He’s not the MVP Award winner until they call it.

DAP

October 1st, 2012
1:10 pm

shaun, you define your own parameters about what an MVP should be, and then call anyone who doesnt come to your conclusion, stupid. could be the parameters arent the same to begin with. everyone who votes has different ideas about what should matter, and they are entitled to that.

here is a non-stat arguement for MVP. Miguel Cabrara’s team is going to the playoffs. Mike Trouts team isnt. without Cabrara, the Tigers wouldnt be going. Without Trout, the angels still wouldnt be going aka in the end he made no difference.

ncscoots

October 1st, 2012
1:10 pm

I said in the spring that I would be happy if Jason ended the season around 800 or so.

I prefer to wallow in my disappointment at a sub-.880 season. :-)

Hope he’s got all the growing-up stuff out of the way, because he’ll have to be a legit stud next year.

MFin04

October 1st, 2012
1:14 pm

Heyward’s on base has been a major disappointment. .334 on base? Pretty sad. Was expecting more in the .380 range.

Trey

October 1st, 2012
1:14 pm

nolie, no doubt about that. He’s done extremely well this season.

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
1:14 pm

He is onea them guys who brings so much extra to the game that he should not be judged strictly on his hitting IMO

Hogwash, nolie. Defense and baserunning are 5% of this game……. ;)

I had him at .810 as a prediction prior to the season – believe it was .270/.360/.450. Got the numbers a bit backwards and was surprised at how his approach changed so much. I would of been much more pleased if he concluded the season on a better note and finished between .830 – .850. Hopefully he can launch one in Pittsburgh.

David O'Brien

October 1st, 2012
1:14 pm

… but at least it’s really nice in Pittsburgh now. Sunny and just cool enough. But rain headed this way later.

phil

October 1st, 2012
1:16 pm

jeffrey d

October 1st, 2012
1:08 pm

we can handle our disappointment without acting out like a 12 year old entering puberty…

People on here get really attracted to girls after a loss?
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Not all of em, statistically speaking…. :-)

ncscoots

October 1st, 2012
1:16 pm

Defense and baserunning are 5% of this game…….

Mike Trout supporters say, “You left the zero off.”

Shaun

October 1st, 2012
1:18 pm

DAP, the same could be said for Verlander and a few other Tigers. Why give it to Cabrera?

And why punish Trout in terms of an individual award because his teammate didn’t do well enough to allow the Angels to make it? Plus if the Angels were in the AL Central they would be in.

I don’t think people who think Cabrera is the MVP are stupid. I just think their arguments are weaker than the arguments for Trout.

phil

October 1st, 2012
1:18 pm

DOB, whining about a late flight and a bit of rain later on, while the rest of us….well, some of us….are working…

;-)

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
1:18 pm

Hope he’s got all the growing-up stuff out of the way, because he’ll have to be a legit stud next year.

That’s when I’ll be looking for .880……. ;)

Or at the very, very least, .850. Same with Freddie. Next year will be the year for both of them. It has to be, really.

George_George

October 1st, 2012
1:20 pm

The way the BRAVES have played this season payticlarly recently Not to wil the first round would be a dissappointment, but the season would NOT be a failure. Assumeing we do not tie the NATS Fridays games scaires me. We should NOT have to play that game. We are so much better that the other so called WC, WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO RISK IT ALL ON A SINGLE GAME. The owners should not have let BUDDY BOY make it a single game. If BUD wants to cheapen the sport by adding another team it MUST be 2 out of 3 next year.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
1:20 pm

People on here get really attracted to girls after a loss?

Forget a loss… make it ever!

abeeeewright

October 1st, 2012
1:21 pm

“phil, October 1st, 2012, 1:06 pm … It’s not ego for me. I just want to win …”

You have to compete to win.

Last time I checked, none of us on the blog are actually strapping them on and going out to play every night for 162.

RC

October 1st, 2012
1:21 pm

Defense and baserunning are 5% of this game…….

Yet pitching and defense are 50% of this game.

TheOnlyBravesFan

October 1st, 2012
1:22 pm

The way the BRAVES have played this season payticlarly recently Not to wil the first round would be a dissappointment, but the season would NOT be a failure

Even George has it right!

phil

October 1st, 2012
1:22 pm

nah, many here will never look at Heyward as being grown up until he’s 35.

It’ll be his 4th full season next year, but he’ll still be “learning”, trying to figure it out, blah, blah, blah if he gets off to a poor start or has a prolonged slump.

This will remain the case when he’s 30, except that by then other excuses likely will be used.

George_George

October 1st, 2012
1:22 pm

phil

October 1st, 2012
1:18 pm
DOB, whining about a late flight and a bit of rain later on, while the rest of us….well, some of us….are working
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What is he crying again about travel and how hard he works?

ncscoots

October 1st, 2012
1:22 pm

It has to be, really.

I dunno if it absolutely has to be, depending on acquisitions (if any) and a return to form by Uggla and McCann. But the two kids need to show at least incremental improvement, fer sure. Heyward more than Freeman, I would think. If he’s gonna hit at 3, he needs to hit like a 3.

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
1:23 pm

Mike Trout supporters say, “You left the zero off.”

The bat is the most important thing in this game, that’s for sure. It’s why while Jason Heyward is an excellent baseball player in a couple regards, he’ll never, ever be looked at as a star unless he is OPS’n .900.

That’s just the way it is. I sort of think that’s sad in a way. But, offense is what moves the sport. No one cares about running the bases and playing a great right field. That stuff just doesn’t really matter all that much.

jim

October 1st, 2012
1:23 pm

I agree with DOB’s thesis that it is better to play to win after clinching than to shut down and rest people for the playoffs (within reason), but don’t think that has anything to do with the Nats’ recent struggles. They have clinched neither the division nor the best overall recrd — both important to have — and have beeen playing their usual lineup and pitching their regular starters less Strasburg. I think their recent struggles have more to do with the strength of the opposition and the fact thast the other young starters besides Strasburg have thrown more innings than they have in the past and are now experiencing the late season fatigue. Even for thsoe 90’s Braves teams that clinched early, they usually made it beyond the first and often the second round of the playoffs, so they were back into competetive form when they lost in the NLDS or WS.

DAP

October 1st, 2012
1:26 pm

shaun And why punish Trout in terms of an individual award because his teammate didn’t do well enough to allow the Angels to make it?

dont ask me, ask people who vote. they all vote based on their own parameters, which is their privilege.

ncscoots

October 1st, 2012
1:26 pm

if he gets off to a poor start or has a prolonged slump.

In other words, if he acts just like every other offensive player in the game, LOL? Ever?

Efrim

October 1st, 2012
1:26 pm

Yet pitching and defense are 50% of this game.

But the pitcher is 40% of that 50% – to most all folks. I’m not saying I agree. But that’s more or less what the baseball world thinks of it as.

phil

October 1st, 2012
1:26 pm

abeeeewright

October 1st, 2012
1:21 pm

“phil, October 1st, 2012, 1:06 pm … It’s not ego for me. I just want to win …”

You have to compete to win.

Last time I checked, none of us on the blog are actually strapping them on and going out to play every night for 162.
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And neither are any of the Braves….

And how do you know for sure that I’m not Kris Medlen? Hmmmm?

Bat Masterson

October 1st, 2012
1:26 pm

Bernanke discussing the Nationals