Auto-pilot to the postseason is not the way to go

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TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
10:13 pm

And polls don’t matter when you’re in the SEC.

The way it should be…. best conference out there.

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
10:15 pm

Minor is 5-0 in past 7 starts inc. 4-0 w/ 0.87 ERA in his past 5.

Has 2.21 ERA in past 15 starts, after 6.20 ERA in 1st 15.

Capt.Mudd

September 29th, 2012
10:16 pm

@cabravesfan…..Tease on; :) :)

kenhotlanta

September 29th, 2012
10:16 pm

Dawgs need to bury the ole’ ball coach next week, which means they will have to play a lot better than they showed today.

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
10:16 pm

O’Flaherty had stiff back today, won’t pitch for a few days probably. He’s had significant back problems in past, but this isn’t serious according to Fredi.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
10:17 pm

Kevin McAlpin ‏@KevinMcAlpin
Fredi says he thinks tonight was Mike Minor’s last start of the regular season. #Braves

Get him ready for post season. Like it. Game 1!

Lee in S GA

September 29th, 2012
10:20 pm

The way it should be…. best conference out there.
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It seems like it almost hurts the 2 idiots on PTI on ESPN to admit that. They were hoping USC would overtake the championship before the season began (as much as said it several times) …now I know they have to be pulling for Oregon.

scott from fairburn

September 29th, 2012
10:22 pm

right on, pedal to the metal … i wish coxie would have bought into this about ten division tiles ago

Venice Jim

September 29th, 2012
10:22 pm

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
10:24 pm

make em sweat

UKUGA

September 29th, 2012
10:24 pm

If the Cards sweep WAS, then I REALLY want to catch WAS, because I have no desire to face a red hot St. Louis next Friday. None.

usnavyvolfaninva

September 29th, 2012
10:24 pm

I can’t figure Jason out. I’m sure he’s as frustrated as anyone. He hit well for much of the year, and all of a sudden he’s run into a brick wall. Braves need him to get out of his slump if they’re going to go anywhere in the playoffs.

Ghost of Chipper Jones

September 29th, 2012
10:25 pm

Looks like MEDS, the BEACH-master, and MINOR will carry us into 2014 and beyond with a forty-year old HUDDY as an afterthought. Who woulda’ thunk three season’s ago that HANSON and JURRJENS would both be on the ropes.

I got a lot of respect for HUDSON. He should be honored as much as all our other great players when his career winds up. He’s done more with less than most any pitcher in baseball since the end of the PED’s era. Through all the injuries and surgeries, he’s been a warrior. A true BRAVE.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
10:25 pm

Nats relievers have really stunk it up this month. If we make it to NLDS, really would prefer to face them

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
10:27 pm

UKUGA: Agree with ya.

Fredo

September 29th, 2012
10:28 pm

Huddy’s 3 run shot last night could be a huge difference in the division race if the Nats actually lose tonight

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
10:28 pm

Mikeinfla Ismell what you’re steppin in it took a few years to get the guys we needed to get the D# poppin

Ghost of Chipper Jones

September 29th, 2012
10:28 pm

David O’Brien
September 29th, 2012
10:16 pm

“…….O’Flaherty had stiff back today, won’t pitch for a few days probably. He’s had significant back problems in past, but this isn’t serious according to Fredi……”

No tongue in cheek re: the manager’s comment……..I hope!

Lee in S GA

September 29th, 2012
10:30 pm

got a lot of respect for HUDSON. He should be honored as much as all our other great players when his career winds up. He’s done more with less than most any pitcher in baseball since the end of the PED’s era. Through all the injuries and surgeries, he’s been a warrior. A true BRAVE.
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I agree with yo completely. It seems so long ago that he started in Oakland but it just seems to me he don’t get enough credit being a Braves player.

Couch Tater

September 29th, 2012
10:38 pm

Glavine, age 24, ERA 4.28 78 BB, 129 SO

Minor, age 24, ERA 4.27, 56 BB, 141 SO.

UKUGA

September 29th, 2012
10:41 pm

phil

September 29th, 2012
10:41 pm

According to FG, Bourn was ready to go a week ago….

Liar.

JC Brave

September 29th, 2012
10:43 pm

Nice one, Cardinals…

UKUGA

September 29th, 2012
10:43 pm

i really don’t like the Nats color commentator

pretty sure he’s the same guy they’ve had for a few years.

phil

September 29th, 2012
10:43 pm

Nats 6-4 now….

Sigh

phil

September 29th, 2012
10:44 pm

Glad to see we won….

Just back from athens….did we manage more than 3 hits?

Venice Jim

September 29th, 2012
10:45 pm

richbrave – sorry about the too-little-too-late comeback effort against the Monarchs…

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
10:48 pm

Minor has a .195 opponents’ batting average in his past 15 starts and .129 in his past 5 starts.

Hugo Z Hackenbush

September 29th, 2012
10:49 pm

Yes, “we” managed more than three hits, pissant.

UKUGA

September 29th, 2012
10:50 pm

If Cards come back and win this, it will highlight why I don’t want to play them.

Nerdville

September 29th, 2012
10:50 pm

only 3 runs scored in last two games against a very crummy mets team.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
10:51 pm

Minor has a .195 opponents’ batting average in his past 15 starts and .129 in his past 5 starts.

Compared to .256 over last 15 and .248 over last 5 for Tim Hudson.

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
10:52 pm

Nats scored 2 in the top of the 10th, lead Cardinals 6-4 in bottom 10th

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
10:53 pm

Typo on that earlier comment, attendance was 48,310 tonight.

UKUGA

September 29th, 2012
10:55 pm

How much will Chipper play in Pittsburgh?

If Nats win tomorrow or Braves lose tomorrow, will he be on PH-only duty?

I’m worried about the guy being out of gas.

JC Brave

September 29th, 2012
10:55 pm

If Cards come back and win this, it will highlight why I don’t want to play them.

The Nationals are worse… especially against the Braves… it’s like no lead is safe against those freaks.

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
10:55 pm

Braves drew just over 100,000 the past 2 nights

UKUGA

September 29th, 2012
10:57 pm

If game is at night next Friday, wonder if Braves will draw another 50,000?

Would be wild.

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
10:58 pm

I like our chances

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
10:58 pm

Nats win 6-4 in 10 innings, reduce magic number to 1 to clinch division title. Have already locked up at least a share of the title, and either 1 Nats win or 1 Braves loss the rest of the way gives Washington the title.

MikeInFl

September 29th, 2012
11:00 pm

Got ‘em right where we want ‘em.

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
11:02 pm

Smokey R on live at Daryl’s

ChattTownBrian

September 29th, 2012
11:04 pm

UKUGA, I think Turner will be sold out. By the way, I’d also like to know what time the game starts. Got to work until 2 on Friday’s. No way I’m missing the game. I’d like to see them try and stop me. :mad:

Baseball Etiquette 101

September 29th, 2012
11:04 pm

Attention Fans at the TED:

If you are sitting in the middle of a row, please do NOT leave or return to your seat in the middle of an inning. Not only are you causing the people in your row who have to get up to let you in or out to miss part of the action, but also all those fans behind them who cannot see when they’re standing. In case you haven’t noticed, there is a natural break in the action after every third out which will give you ample time to leave or return to your seat.

Doc Holliday

September 29th, 2012
11:07 pm

Im not sure if this has been said lately………but for those who dont believe in pitching:

LA Dodgers are the only team among top 6 ERA teams that are not making the playoff.
1. NATS
2. Reds
3. LA
4. Braves
5. SF
6. Cards.

Only 2 teams among top 5 in runs scored are going to the playoffs……….. Cards and Nats.

Same goes in the AL:

of the top 9 ERA ………..8 of those teams are still alive or are already in for the playoffs. Only mariners (3rd) are out.

While in runs scored……..only 6 of top 9 are in or alive………….

this clearly tells that pitching gives you a better shot at advancing into playoffs.

Chop Chop

September 29th, 2012
11:08 pm

Sure would be funny as hell to see Medlen choke that wild-card game away against the Cards. Would it be possible for Braves fans to hate the Cards anymore after we choked it away to ‘em last year? Maybe.

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
11:14 pm

Why would a Braves fan hate the Cards?I hate the Reds Dodgers Phillies and working on the Nats

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
11:15 pm

Oh yea Twins and Pin stripers hate them too

Chop Chop

September 29th, 2012
11:16 pm

Texas-Oklahoma St.

Gus Johnson’s on tilt.

Couch Tater

September 29th, 2012
11:18 pm

Where have you been, Doc?

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
11:20 pm

that was a great comeback drive by the Longhorns, assuming the call stands

Venice Jim

September 29th, 2012
11:21 pm

Sure would be funny as hell to see Medlen choke that wild-card game away against the Cards

Glad to see someone who hates the Braves posting…or a fan with a perverse sense of humor…

(no offense intended, since you have always had a claim to alleged fandom, despite clearly not falling into the camp)…

nolie

September 29th, 2012
11:21 pm

I love the Cards

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
11:28 pm

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
11:30 pm

I’ve always liked em too nolie but Oct 5 I hope they are
off the chain bad

kenhotlanta

September 29th, 2012
11:30 pm

I love the Cards of Stan Musial, Ken Boyer, Vinegar Bend Mizell, Bobby Del Greco, Bobby Gene Smith, Red Schoendienst, etc. That team and the Milwaukee Braves had by far the best looking uniforms ever.

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
11:33 pm

I understand your point about the “mental” edge, but there have also been lots of teams in the last several years who have had TERRIBLE Septembers and went on to get hot in the playoffs and win it all (i.e. Cardinals of 2006…and other teams I can’t remember at the moment). — Keith

But how far back did you go to find the first example of a team that went in cold and won it? As opposed to all the examples I gave of teams that did the opposite SINCE then?

nolie

September 29th, 2012
11:37 pm

but Oct 5 I hope they are off the chain bad…Chip

but of course :D

ChattTownBrian

September 29th, 2012
11:40 pm

“I love the Cards” nolie

To each their own as Chipper would say.

Doc Holliday

September 29th, 2012
11:41 pm

Couch Tater,

following our braves but silently.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 29th, 2012
11:41 pm

I like the Cards farm system, their CF, and RF. That’s about it! :)

nolie

September 29th, 2012
11:41 pm

Cards knocked us out in ‘82. IIRC Knucksie was leading the first game and it got rained out, and the rest of our pitching wasn’t worth much anyway. Knucksie came back on one day rest and wasn’t quite as sharp

Powder Blue

September 29th, 2012
11:42 pm

How ’bout those Orioles?

nolie

September 29th, 2012
11:43 pm

I’m taking about the team over the decades, not the players today. For a long time is was the farthest West and deepest South team around and it has a great history.

David O'Brien

September 29th, 2012
11:43 pm

How much will Chipper play in Pittsburgh? — UKUGA

If Nats clinch, would expect Chipper to rest all or most of Pittsburgh series.

nolie

September 29th, 2012
11:45 pm

are they giving him a gift?

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
11:46 pm

Phil Niekro was a real hero of mine man he was fun to watch but it was hell trying to catch him

Ken Stallings

September 29th, 2012
11:47 pm

Thought the Nats might give the Braves a sliver of hope, but they came back to beat the Cards after the Cards came back to tie from an early 4-0 deficit. Now the best the Braves can do is tie the Nats and force a one-game playoff for the division and frankly I would rather the Braves avoid that and just take their chances in the Wild Card playoff game with Medlen on the hill. I like our chances with him pitching whether it is the Cards or the Dodgers.

At this point it will be either the Cards or the Dodgers. If the Dodgers win tonight, then things get interesting for the Cardinals. Wouldn’t it be poetic justice is the irony in Wainwright’s intemperate remarks was that the Dodgers took the Wild Card away from the Dodgers and they never had a chance to play the Braves in postseason?

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
11:48 pm

I suppose anyway

Ken Stallings

September 29th, 2012
11:49 pm

Yep, in 1982 that rainout killed the Braves. It took Knucksie out of the NLDS (which was a short series back then that started the first two at Saint Louis. If the rainout had come just a half inning later, it would have been official and the Braves won.

Might have been a totally different outcome had that happened, but alas such was not the case and the Braves got swept. The Cards went on to win the 1982 World Series as their catcher Darrell Porter was named MVP of the World Series.

Ken Stallings

September 29th, 2012
11:50 pm

Dale Murphy hit a sharp single up the middle to plate that RBI. Would have been a nice cherry on his NL MVP award that year!

chipontheroad

September 29th, 2012
11:51 pm

I would hate to play the Dodgers if they were on a roll but I guess it dont matter as long as we are loose and play our game

Dum-Bass

September 29th, 2012
11:54 pm

Trying to get into the Cards mindset here. The Braves have Medlen going tomorrow to set him up for pitching Friday’s play-in game. The Cards are throwing Lynn tomorrow who is 17-7 but is a RH pitcher. Are they doing the same thing with him? They do have a lefty, Garcia(only LH starter) but he’s pitching on Monday. If he goes for them on Friday, that would be with 3 day’s rest. If they looked at the stats they would surely go with Garcia, but apparently manager Mike Matheny has other ideas. The Braves have only scored 238 runs this season vs LH’s and 448 vs RH’s. Huge difference! Almost looks like a mistake.

kenhotlanta

September 29th, 2012
11:54 pm

You could pick up the Cardinal games on the radio at night with Harry Carey (when he was sober and good) and Jack Buck. Also, the White Sox, Pirates, Phillies, Yankees, Reds, and sometimes the Tigers. I was a wide-eyed little kid listening to my baseball card heroes.

Couch Tater

September 30th, 2012
12:03 am

Doc –

I’ve been missing that Panama hat. Good to see a post. Jump in and cause some controversy. heh, heh.

Charles

September 30th, 2012
12:22 am

Great column — the Braves need to keep pushing and not go into a rest mode. Offense is still questionable in a 5 game series vs. the Nats, especially since you will only have Medlen for 1 game. So I think you are spot on with not going into hibernation for the final series vs. the Pirates. Rest Chipper as needed and any injured, but otherwise play to win. The recent series vs. the Nats may have put a scare into them. While the division title is gone, the Nats will be sweating bullets if the Braves close it to 2 games or better by seasons end. The Strasbourg issue will get a lot of press and they may collapse. So keep on the heat.

Puma

September 30th, 2012
12:28 am

I hope we do play the Cards- payback for last year! Either way, I hate the 1 game play in, too much can go wrong for a team in 1 game.

I don’t see a let-up in the future for the Braves, even if the Pittsburgh series is all but meaningless, I don’t think 3 games is enough to lose the edge. Also a good opportunity to give some of those bench guys some at bats.

DOB – Do you know / think Janish will be able to play in postseason? Sure would hate to see him left out after the impact he had.

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
12:28 am

I almost feel guilty growing up in NY where I could listen to and watch the team I rooted for…made up for it living in Richmond, where I’d be happy to catch the FAN, and, later, when I finally started rooting for the right team, WSB at night…

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:30 am

My kingdom for some runs tomorrow!!!

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
12:34 am

I’d save your kingdom for Friday… ;)

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:34 am

Puma, as much as Janish is playoff-worthy, Pastornicky will probably get the nod because of his better hitting, relatively speaking. Honestly, who’s to say what which players will make up the bench for the playoffs. Collectivley, with the exception of Reed Johnson, Braves’ pinch-hitting has been rotting putrid.

If the Braves beat the Cards on Friday, it will be because Medlen twirls a shutout.

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:37 am

It may be too late in the night to ask this Q, but has Medlen ever faced the Cards as a starter? For that matter, ever?

Puma

September 30th, 2012
12:39 am

Oh come on MiaBch – that is just too pessimistic. They’ll come around…I hope. But hey, can’t complain too much being 18-8 or something close too that in September, they are playing some good baseball right now.

Mitchell

September 30th, 2012
12:41 am

Officially impossible to lose if the other team doesn’t score, in case that was still unclear.

That’s been made official.

Nothing to worry about moving forward. We just need Medlen, Hudson, Maholm and Minor to throw shutouts and the World Series trophy is ours.

Simple… as… that.

Puma

September 30th, 2012
12:42 am

Took a quick look, Meds pitched 3 innings in 2 games back in May vs StL, gave up 1 run in the 2 inning stint.

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
12:42 am

Since you must not have a computer available, Medlen pitched 3 games in relief against the Cardinals in May, 5/11-12-28…4 2/3 IP, 6 H, 3 ER – clearly, we are doomed, since we will score no runs…

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
12:44 am

Mitchell with his usual brilliant analysis, given that the Braves average 0.00034000567 runs oer game…

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
12:44 am

nolie

September 30th, 2012
12:45 am

Janish and Tyler might both make the roster for the play-in since some pitchers will be left off

Mixxo

September 30th, 2012
12:49 am

“Officially impossible to lose if the other team doesn’t score, in case that was still unclear….” – Mitchell

Thanks! :mrgreen:

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:49 am

Kris Medlen has pitched against the Cardinals in 5 games…. never started against them, however.

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
12:49 am

oops – slight miscalculation – the Braves average 4.3 runs per game – not that Mitchell has the mental dexterity to understand anything beyond his own myopic vision of his own myopic vision…

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:51 am

And of the Cardinals hitters who have faced him, they are a combined 4-25 .160/.160/.240/.400 with a triple and 2 RBI. 0 Walks vs. 5 Ks.

Beltran is 0-6 against him with a K and an RBI.

Puma

September 30th, 2012
12:52 am

I guess there isn’t much need for Janish on roster if Simmons healthy, since the defense is a wash between those two, a shame though, enjoyed watching him play.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:52 am

all numbers I posted are career… not just this year

nolie

September 30th, 2012
12:54 am

4.3694 actually ;)

MiaBchBravesFan

September 30th, 2012
12:56 am

LOL – No, V-Jim, just lazy tonight combined with spotty wi-fi. Actually, I think Medlen will twirl a shutout as a starter against the Cards, just aggravate them into submission. If they start Kyle Lohse, it may go into extras, tied 0-0. :-)

nolie

September 30th, 2012
12:56 am

unless Simmons goes down. no way they start Tyler at short, though they might Prado

Puma

September 30th, 2012
12:58 am

If Simmons does go down they can add Janish right?

Venice Jim

September 30th, 2012
12:58 am

Later, guys – given the unlikelihood of the Nats losing out, I will turn my attention to golf in the morning (where there is a strong unlikelihood that the US can screw it up)…

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