(Staff writer Carroll Rogers is filling in for David O’Brien today.)
Wonder how that carpet is going to smell today in the Braves clubhouse? Ah, they’ll get it cleaned up. They always have. And the Braves will happily replace it in the offseason I’m sure. And maybe they’ll shag it up with champagne another time or two before the season is over.
Even if “all” the Braves did was clinch a wild card berth last night, I think they showed a little of what they can do in a one-game playoff with Kris Medlen on the mound and the stakes super high. (He’s scheduled to pitch if the potential wild card playoff game Oct. 5.)

Freeman in his jubilation
After Medlen gave up the second home run to Donovan Solano, as surprising as it was to see the two-out, two-strike pitch to him go out to the opposite field and the Braves trailing again 3-2, the Braves got right back to work.
Eric O’Flaherty pitched a perfect eighth for his 26th consecutive scoreless appearance since July 15. Craig Kimbrel pitched a dominant ninth, and then in the bottom of the inning came the Chipper Jones double, Mike Dunn wild pitch, and Freddie Freeman launch job.
Loved what Freeman said in his TV interview on the field, after mentioning the heartbreak of last September’s collapse, when he said: “I think we’re all good now.”
I should say so.
According to ESPN Stats & Info, Freeman is the seventh player to hit a walk-off home run to clinch a playoff berth for his team, and only the second to do it with his team trailing in the game at the time. The other? Bobby Thomson for the 1951 Giants.
Business at hand
After going 9-18 last September and losing on the final day of the season, the Braves are 15-7 so far this September. That .682 winning percentage has them on pace for their second best month of the season. They went 18-8 in July (.692).
I think as a team this month they embodied what Medlen does when he’s on the mound – attack. Instead of “rearview mirror” mentality that Chipper referred to last night, they’ve continued to aggressively pursue the Nationals.
“We got caught kind of looking in the rearview mirror and counting down the days and whatnot and that’s the wrong attitude to have,” Jones said of last year. “You’ve got to go out there and take the bull by the horns and shoot for the top of the division and let the wild card be a byproduct of finishing second.”
The Nationals’ lead in the NL East is down to four games with eight games left, and right on cue, they’re sending John Lannan, rather than Stephen Strasburg, to the mound tonight in Philadelphia to try to remedy that. Lannan is 2-12 with a 5.79 ERA in 17 career appearances against the Phillies. (The Braves send Paul Maholm out tonight vs. Marlins ace Josh Johnson, whom Medlen out-pitched last Wednesday in Miami.)
The Nationals have lost five in a row at Citizens Bank Park and seven of eight against the Phillies overall. They are 5-8 against the Phillies on the season, the only team in the NL East they have a losing record against. They’ve watched the Phillies clinch against them three times in the past five years and were hoping to return the favor this series, but the earliest the Nats can clinch now is Friday.
But waiting for them on Friday is a date in St. Louis with the Cardinals, who are pretty highly motivated themselves to secure the last wild card spot. And after that? The Nationals have to face the Phillies again to close out the season. Just ask the Braves what that can be like.
Even though it’s still mathematically improbable that the Braves will catch the Nats, at the very least, the Braves could head into the playoffs the hotter team and with the momentum from a three-game sweep of the Nationals Sept. 14-16. Plus if the Braves win the wild card game, they could take advantage of the scheduling quirk this season and host the Nationals for the first two games of the Division Series.
The Nationals are 13-10 in September compared to the Braves’ 15-7. And a big reason for that is how the Braves are pitching. They have a 2.71 ERA this month, compared to the Nationals’ 3.55. And that makes all the difference because look at this: the Nationals have out-homered the Braves 39-14 in September and they’ve out-hit them .282 to .234.
As for the “byproduct”

Freeman's first ever walk-off homer clinches playoff berth
So the Braves magic number to clinch homefield advantage over the Cardinals is three. Technically. But realistically it’s only two because if the Braves and Cardinals end up with the same record, the Braves win a tiebreaker based on head-to-head. The Braves have won five out of six games against St. Louis this season.
By the numbers
The Braves are 25-12 in one-run games on the season; they were 29-26 in one-run games last year. When Medlen gave up the two-run home run to Solano in the seventh last night, it was the first time since June 15 he had given up multiple runs in an inning. That snapped a streak of 102 2/3 innings, fourth longest in the majors since 1974, according to Stats Inc.
And oh yeah, with Jones’ double to start the ninth inning rally, he tied Roberto Alomar for 57th on the all-time hit list with 2,724.
Weekend plans
If you’re headed to Turner Field for Friday’s game and the Chipper Jones tribute, parking is by permit only so if you don’t have a parking pass, take MARTA. The pre-game ceremony starts at 7 p.m. For those who won’t make it, Fox Sports South will show the Chipper ceremony live in its entirety, commercial free.
Fox Sports South is also showing a replay on the special it aired on Jones last night. If you want to set your DVR, those replay times are Friday at 6 p.m. on Fox Sports South, Saturday at 11 p.m. on SportSouth and Sunday at approximately 5 p.m. on SportSouth after the Braves postgame show.
OK lineup and more shortly from the ballpark.
1,027 comments Add your comment
braves1
September 26th, 2012
2:21 pm
First!
Kelly
September 26th, 2012
2:23 pm
Choptober!
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
2:23 pm
So the Braves magic number to clinch homefield advantage over the Cardinals is three. Technically. But realistically…
I don’t see why this is the case. It’s 2. Period.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
2:24 pm
Lame…. Thanks Carroll!!! Let’s go Braves and Phillies.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
2:25 pm
To continue from the last blog:
Bay Area Steve,
Jorge_Jorge comes across as not just a fry short of a Happy Meal, but a fries, bun, and burger short.
I tend to doubt Jorge_Jorge is as slow-witted as he makes himself out to be. I think he’s playing everyone a bit. That, or he’s clinically obsessed, in which case he should transfer his obsession from DOB to his feet… or Matchbox cars – whatever.
Jimmy
September 26th, 2012
2:25 pm
Yeah Brian, it is 2. Period.
Then, depending how far out we are from the Nats, we might can rest some guys and get them healthy.
Murph
September 26th, 2012
2:27 pm
No guessing; you’re still on probation for not outing Ward. Did you see where Murph seemingly admitted to it the other day? Like twice? I didn’t know if it was Murph being Murph, or if he was serious. I figgered the former, but I hate that you know and I don’t. And tell that ball-and-chain I ain’t shook. This here deal is anonynonymous.
Did BAS just accuse me of being Ward?
That’s it. I’ve had enough of this. 4 year old, incoming. Don’t bother locking the doors or windows, it won’t matter.
Veer
September 26th, 2012
2:27 pm
Wonder if Chipper will be in the lineup after being poured cold champagane yesterday through out his body. I suspect he will be out today with hypothermia or Colditis.
raleighbravefan
September 26th, 2012
2:28 pm
George – Time to give it a rest, Dude. You’re making a fool of yourself.
I believe the only one actually banned is PL. I’m pretty sure Ace and Mixxo were simply warned.
Ben
September 26th, 2012
2:28 pm
how do i get a parking permit then? Im driving from NJ and will be getting in ATL by 5 pm that day and was just going to drive over to the ted for the game
b_stackhouse
September 26th, 2012
2:30 pm
“Even though it’s still mathematically improbable that the Braves will catch the Nats”
How is it mathematically improbable the the Braves will catch the Nats? I would say it is improbable, but it is not mathematically improbable.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
2:30 pm
Brian is right… it is 2.
I wouldn’t be against resting a player or two tonight, win and it’s down to 1. Get Baker in somehow (RF?) and maybe give Overbay a start. Pastornicky, maybe? I dunno. We want to catch the Nats and all and keep the regulars playing, but the backups do need some ABs.
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
2:30 pm
Apologies, Murph. You made a coupla posts the other day that seemed to imply…
Clearly, my comprehension again faltered. I’ll go put on a helmet, and try to bribe the 4yo with sopapillas.
Will
September 26th, 2012
2:31 pm
Not sure it matters right now if braves are hotter then the Nats cause its just as likely will be playing the reds in potential nlds.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
2:31 pm
Magic Number is 2 for home field in the coin flip game. Hopefully that can get squared away tonight.
raleighbravefan
September 26th, 2012
2:31 pm
“give it a rest” referres to the ridiculous obsession with DOB’s work schedule…Even more ridiculous, when you consider covering the games is only part of his job. Even the multi-Million dollar players get days off, for Pete’s sake!
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
2:32 pm
The magic number for having more wins than the Cardinals is 3. But the magic number for clinching home field in the wild card playoff is 2. Technically and realistically.
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
2:33 pm
“I do not think you are one of the better bloggers on here.”
OK, that frickin’ smarts. I’m not even in the 51 percentile? That’s worse than being accused of creating ward.
Gustopher
September 26th, 2012
2:34 pm
Great blog Carroll. Did Medlen give up the homer throwing his change up?
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
2:35 pm
The Braves have very little pressure on them right now. Certainly less so than the Nationals.
Despite completely unfounded comments by some here last night that the Braves were “not relaxed,” I thought they looked very loose and comfortable. And that helped them win, in the end.
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
2:35 pm
Gustopher, both homers were on fastballs thrown to the wrong spot. Second one was especially bad…0-2 pitch down the middle.
Murph
September 26th, 2012
2:35 pm
I’ll go put on a helmet, and try to bribe the 4yo with sopapillas.
She only eats Chips Ahoy and Gogurt… strawberry. Heaven help you if you don’t have strawberry.
I have not posted under another name since my one post as Samantha back in whatever month that was, April? Before that I did one dot Don impersonation and was quickly called out for it.
Aside from those two posts I have never ever never posted under any other name other than Murph.
CB
September 26th, 2012
2:36 pm
BAS,you are in real trouble. A 4yr old and a 70yr old ninja coming after you. Be doubly afraid for you know not what direction death comes from.
Sopheee
September 26th, 2012
2:36 pm
Thanks, Carroll!
Ben – http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/atl/ticketing/prepaid_parking.jsp
chipontheroad
September 26th, 2012
2:37 pm
Ben you could do a park and ride probablly go to marta’s website but there is parking within walking distance be careful rough neighborhood in spots
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
2:37 pm
Nice work, Carroll. Hope you got the knots out of your hair. Thanks
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
2:39 pm
Magic # = (# games left) – (# games ahead) +1.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
2:40 pm
if # games ahead = xx.5, then Magic # = (# games left)-(# games ahead) + 1.5.
chipontheroad
September 26th, 2012
2:40 pm
Thanx Carroll et al
Man I really want to see us pick up another one on the enemy
Win One For The Chipper
September 26th, 2012
2:41 pm
If the Nats were playing the Marlins, Mets, and Pirates and we were playing the Phils and Cards, I’d say our chances were “improbable”. But since it’s reversed, I really like our chances to force a one-game, winner take all for the NL East play in game.
My prediction – Braves go 6-2, Nats go 2-6. Both end up 94-68. Huddy starts Thursday, Oct 4th on regular rest. Win or lose, Meds starts either the one-game wild card or Game 1 of the NLDS.
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
2:44 pm
Magic number = 163 – (your losses) – (wins by the team you’re trying to beat)
Unless a tie clinches the race (for home field, it does since the Braves own the head-to-head tiebreaker)
If tiebreaker is owned,
Magic number = 162 – (your losses) – (wins by the team you’re trying to beat)
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
2:44 pm
The Braves have very little pressure on them right now. Certainly less so than the Nationals.
I don’t know that the Nats would feel any pressure until their lead is series-length or less. You tend to be pretty loose knowing that even getting swept leaves you in first. Chip off another game tonight, though, and who knows?
Really, only Werth has any experience with a pennant race, and I’m sure his brightest memory is 2007 and chasing down the Mets. If anything, he knows how that feeling of confidence and inevitability can arise in the chaser’s clubhouse. Still, it’s got to get a little closer before any of that would come into play, I think.
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
2:45 pm
Your version: “Magic # = (# games left) – (# games ahead) +1.
if # games ahead = xx.5, then Magic # = (# games left)-(# games ahead) + 1.5.”
My version: Magic # = whatever Brian tells me it is.
As an aside, I really miss Braveheart’s magic number posts. You know, it’s mid-April, and he’s posting magic number is 156.
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
2:48 pm
As an aside, I really miss Braveheart’s magic number posts.
I miss the guy, period.
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
2:49 pm
I love the way the team uses the the media to work in things like “parking is by permit only”, as if the Braves own every single lot within walking distance of TF.
Will parking be at a premium? Yes. Will you be able to find a parking spot on your own? Yes.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
2:49 pm
LOL…. far be it from me to one-up Brian!
phil
September 26th, 2012
2:50 pm
Why are we thanking Carroll for getting the knots out of her hair?
Not that I’m not thankful she did, if she did….
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
2:50 pm
Magic Number is more relevant than games back.
I always grow frustrated when people say things like “didn’t lose any ground becuase both teams lost.”
No. No. No.
A lot of folks don’t seem to get this until the magic number drops into the teens.
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
2:51 pm
usnavyvolfaninva, your method uses smaller numbers and is easier to do in your head. But my method is a little simpler, since there’s one formula, regardless of whether you’re “half a game” back, or not.
I have a spreadsheet that tells me the magic numbers and elimination numbers for all teams, in each race. All I have to do is update the wins and losses by each team every day.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
2:51 pm
Ben you could do a park and ride probablly go to marta’s website but there is parking within walking distance be careful rough neighborhood in spots
Only just “in spots”?
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
2:52 pm
ah….I see.
The secret is out.
Warhead
September 26th, 2012
2:52 pm
Thanks for giving us a rundown on the weekend plans, Caroll! Much appreciated! Can’t wait to be there in person Friday night. Going to be awesome.
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
2:52 pm
LaRoche has experience with a pennant race.
He also has experience with stopping at 3B b/c he has diarrhea and then getting thrown out at home.
Murph
September 26th, 2012
2:53 pm
What happened to Braveheart? Seems like we’ve lost a lot of quality guys from the blog this season. Feels like we should have one of those memorial video tributes at the end of the season.
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
2:53 pm
He also has experience with stopping at 3B b/c he has diarrhea and then getting thrown out at home.
Wait, he wasn’t on the team last year. Or were you being literal?
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
2:53 pm
The old IBEW facility on Central Ave. no longer offers parking (although, I’m really not sure who or what is monitoring that lot). It used to be, if you were heading north after a game, that was just about the best place to have your car parked.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
2:54 pm
I have a spreadsheet that tells me the magic numbers and elimination numbers for all teams, in each race.
Who wants to talk about that when we can talk about the RH relief spot in the bullpen for 2013???
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
2:54 pm
LaRoche has experience with a pennant race.
Yeah, forgot about Adam. He’s more likely to keep their stuff in one sock than anybody on that club.
Somebody go hurt him.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
2:56 pm
Ben (Leland Grove): Would you consider Luke Sims to be the same kind of mold as Sean Gilmartin and Mike Minor, or are you higher on him?
Matthew Eddy: Sims is definitely cut from a different cloth than Gilmartin or Minor, and you should expect different results. Just don’t expect them to come in Double-A until probably 2015. Sims pitched and also played shortstop in high school, so he’s not quite as refined as other first-round pitchers, but still the Braves must be excited with the raw tools — athleticism, plus fastball, plus curve — they have to mold into a pitcher.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
2:58 pm
Sims is certainly my kind of first rounder….
Especially for a team who had spent their previous two first rounders on high floor guys. Gotta take some risk once and a while, right?…..
Or every year, if it were me running the show.
Murph
September 26th, 2012
2:58 pm
Where will Graham likely pitch next season?
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
3:00 pm
Going to be exciting to have two Top 40 picks next year.
I mean, Wren wouldn’t give up a 1st for someone like Nick Swisher, right?
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
3:00 pm
LaRoche’s diarrhea game:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/HOU/HOU200510090.shtml
See top of the 7th
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
3:01 pm
Where will Graham likely pitch next season?
Right next to Medlen, in front of scoots house so that he can watch two sub 6 footers throw day in and day out……
RC
September 26th, 2012
3:02 pm
Who wants to talk about that when we can talk about the RH relief spot in the bullpen for 2013???
Or who will play CF for the Braves in 2013 and beyond? (My vote is for Pagan)
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
3:02 pm
Seriously Murph, I wouldn’t put it past the Braves to start him in Triple-A Gwinnett. But the good money is on him throwing another 40 innings for Mississippi while he works on his changeup.
phil
September 26th, 2012
3:04 pm
A spreadsheet?
Really?
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
3:05 pm
A spreadsheet?
Really?
I have dozens of spreadsheets I’ve created for various baseball purposes. It’s a hobby.
RC
September 26th, 2012
3:05 pm
LaRoche has experience with a pennant race.
He also has experience with stopping at 3B b/c he has diarrhea and then getting thrown out at home.
He must have passed it on to Kyle Farnsworth….now I’m angry about that game all over.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
3:05 pm
Josh Hamilton for CF.
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
3:06 pm
Why are we thanking Carroll for getting the knots out of her hair?
It seems I read something on here, last night, about her tweeting she had knots in her hair from the champaign. I’m not certain I even know what that means.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
3:06 pm
Brian,
I’d do that, too, but I can’t seem to master the formula creation on Excel. Simple additions is one thing, but coming up with that formula would probably take me all day.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
3:07 pm
Heyward is hitting .231/.264/.394 in his last 26 games dating back to August 27th – 110 plate appearances. He’s taken 5 walks, struck out 19 times in that timeframe.
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
3:09 pm
Simple additions is one thing, but coming up with that formula would probably take me all day.
Oh, that’s nothing. For example, here’s one of the formulaa I use in my spreadsheet that rates all the teams:
($AM3+$AN3)*D$2+($AO3+$AP3)*D$3+($AQ3+$AR3)*D$4+($AS3+$AT3)*D$5+($AU3+$AV3)*D$6+($AW3+$AX3)*D$7+($AY3+$AZ3)*D$8+($BA3+$BB3)*D$9+($BC3+$BD3)*D$10+($BE3+$BF3)*D$11+($BG3+$BH3)*D$12+($BI3+$BJ3)*D$13+($BK3+$BL3)*D$14+($BM3+$BN3)*D$15+($BO3+$BP3)*D$16+($BQ3+$BR3)*D$17+($BS3+$BT3)*D$18+($BU3+$BV3)*D$19+($BW3+$BX3)*D$20+($BY3+$BZ3)*D$21+($CA3+$CB3)*D$22+($CC3+$CD3)*D$23+($CE3+$CF3)*D$24+($CG3+$CH3)*D$25+($CI3+$CJ3)*D$26+($CK3+$CL3)*D$27+($CM3+$CN3)*D$28+($CO3+$CP3)*D$29+($CQ3+$CR3)*D$30+($CS3+$CT3)*D$31-(($AM3+$AN3)*$AN3+($AO3+$AP3)*$AP3+($AQ3+$AR3)*$AR3+($AS3+$AT3)*$AT3+($AU3+$AV3)*$AV3+($AW3+$AX3)*$AX3+($AY3+$AZ3)*$AZ3+($BA3+$BB3)*$BB3+($BC3+$BD3)*$BD3+($BE3+$BF3)*$BF3+($BG3+$BH3)*$BH3+($BI3+$BJ3)*$BJ3+($BK3+$BL3)*$BL3+($BM3+$BN3)*$BN3+($BO3+$BP3)*$BP3+($BQ3+$BR3)*$BR3+($BS3+$BT3)*$BT3+($BU3+$BV3)*$BV3+($BW3+$BX3)*$BX3+($BY3+$BZ3)*$BZ3+($CA3+$CB3)*$CB3+($CC3+$CD3)*$CD3+($CE3+$CF3)*$CF3+($CG3+$CH3)*$CH3+($CI3+$CJ3)*$CJ3+($CK3+$CL3)*$CL3+($CM3+$CN3)*$CN3+($CO3+$CP3)*$CP3+($CQ3+$CR3)*$CR3+($CS3+$CT3)*$CT3)
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
3:09 pm
Right next to Medlen, in front of scoots house so that he can watch two sub 6 footers throw day in and day out……
My windows are probably too high for me to notice them, LOL.
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
3:12 pm
The above formula is used to find the total number of wins by all Braves opponents this season (by individual game), adjusted by taking their games against the Braves out of their record. As of right now, that number is 11,120.
jeffrey d
September 26th, 2012
3:13 pm
Who’s the 70 year old ninja?
haggard
September 26th, 2012
3:13 pm
Thanks Carroll !
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
3:16 pm
Brain,
How can you have a total of over 11,000 wins?
RC
September 26th, 2012
3:17 pm
Brian from SC,
Get some indirect references in that thing man! Evaluating formulas like that drive me crazy…so much easier to create another sheet and break things into smaller pieces.
haggard
September 26th, 2012
3:19 pm
David O’Brien @1:11 and 1:37
Good stuff–especially the part about sitting next to your girlfriend on the couch in your living room. Long distance (2 hours away) has been a part of my life for the past 16 months, which has cut into quite a bit of blogging time, yet is surely pleasurable in so many other ways,(such as: she’s become a Braves fan).
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
3:21 pm
How can you have a total of over 11,000 wins?
For example, the Nationals have 93 wins. If you discount their games against Atlanta, they have 83 wins. The Braves have played the Nats 18 times. 83 times 19 is 1,577. That formula above is basically doing that for every team the Braves have played this season. They all add up to 11,120.
You have to do it that way, because the fact that the Braves play Washington 18 times, as opposed to 3 times, makes their schedule more difficult.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
3:22 pm
Here you go scoots:
Eric (Atlanta): Can you explain what you mean by “A wrist wrap compromises his control of his breaking ball” with regard to Mauricio Cabrera? Also, what’s his ulitimate ceiling as a starter?
Matthew Eddy: When a scout says a pitcher has a wrist wrap, he’s referring to the excess motion at the back of his arm swing, where a pitcher will flick his wrist in an upward motion. The thought is that since this motion complicates one’s arm stroke and (theoretically) makes it more difficult to repeat one’s delivery taht it will affect release point and thus command. Good examples of big leaguers with wrist wraps are Ublado Jimenez or Homer Bailey.
Disbott3000
September 26th, 2012
3:24 pm
Well, guys, it’s 3 because there is always the slight chance that the second wild card may not be the Cardinals. It is only 2 if that other position is the Cards, so there you go.
Alright Braves, keep chasing the Nats until it’s over. Maybe the Phillies would enjoy nothing more than to ruin their parade and will play them extra-tough. Go Braves!!
Disbott3000
September 26th, 2012
3:24 pm
Well, guys, it’s 3 because there is always the slight chance that the second wild card may not be the Cardinals. It is only 2 if that other position is the Cards, so there you go.
Alright Braves, keep chasing the Nats until it’s over. Maybe the Phillies would enjoy nothing more than to ruin their parade and will play them extra-tough. Go Braves!!
Disbott3000
September 26th, 2012
3:24 pm
Well, guys, it’s 3 because there is always the slight chance that the second wild card may not be the Cardinals. It is only 2 if that other position is the Cards, so there you go.
Alright Braves, keep chasing the Nats until it’s over. Maybe the Phillies would enjoy nothing more than to ruin their parade and will play them extra-tough. Go Braves!!
Lew
September 26th, 2012
3:24 pm
veer – Colditis ? Really? And you truly wonder why we call you an idiot?
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
3:24 pm
Dave (Atlanta): Did any of Danville’s other Latin players (RHPs Ernesto Silva and Williams Perez, 1B Aris Alcantara, OF Felix Marte) impress?
Matthew Eddy: The two Danville prospects not ranked who stood out were 3B Carlos Franco and RF Felix Marte. Franco is a fine defensive third baseman with arm strength who switch-hits and has enough power to be interesting. Marte is more of a long shot because he’s limited to the corner outfield, but he has good balance and bat control at the plate. One manager described him as a quick-twitch player with power, so he’s at least interesting.
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
3:24 pm
That fourth sentence in my 3:21 post should say “83 times 18″.
Way Too Much Kool-Aid Around Here
September 26th, 2012
3:26 pm
Folks, this is a DISASTER. Folks, how can you tip your cap to this? Can you imagine the 20k EMPTY SEATS AT THE TED???? The Braves already have the worst fans on the planet…why show it on television?
Folks, I am usually here to Tip the Old Cappa but not this time. The Bravos worked really hard to get to this choke position. I rather them do it without the national spotlight…thank you very much!
Folks, no cap tipping today. Just thank the Lucky Stars that Fredi and Cocks are two different types of managers because we could be looking at more chocking let me tell you! Folks,
its gonna get ugly!
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
3:26 pm
Well, guys, it’s 3 because there is always the slight chance that the second wild card may not be the Cardinals. It is only 2 if that other position is the Cards, so there you go.
Wrong. The Braves’ magic number for clinching home field over the Brewers, Dodgers, or any other team is already zero. The only teams that can possible get the #1 wild card now are Washington, Atlanta, and St. Louis.
The Braves eliminated Milwaukee and Los Angeles from #1 wild card contention last night. Believe me, I’ve been keeping track of those magic numbers, too.
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
3:27 pm
Actually Disbott, The Braves have “eliminated” all teams below St. Louis from contention in the WC game.
Braves have 89 wins
Dodgers & Brewers each have 75 losses
89 + 75 = 164
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
3:28 pm
So, there you go.
Murph
September 26th, 2012
3:29 pm
Who was the guy the Braves drafted who is coming back from a really bad broken leg?
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
3:29 pm
I think my favorite part about Disbott 3000’s incorrect WC post is that it posted three times.
Tami
September 26th, 2012
3:30 pm
Carroll’s on to something, Everyone! I just checked the Braves’ website. Every…single…advance…parking ticket for every single lot is SOLD OUT!!!
Could prove troublesome for us getting there since Marta is no where within our route to Turner Field. Nice.
Tami
September 26th, 2012
3:32 pm
P.S. This is for the Friday, September 28th game featuring the Chipper Tribute.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
3:32 pm
I though about responding to Veer’s post, but I figured there’s no WAY someone would throw such a wet blanket over what happened last night, and actually mean it. Veer, you’re dead inside, dude.
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
3:32 pm
He kinda had a point, that really, a team doesn’t just have a magic number relative to one team. Each team has a magic number relative to every other team in the league. It’s just that the magic number relative to the closest team is the one that is most relevant.
In this particular case, he is wrong because the Braves have already eliminated every other wild card team but the Cardinals.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
3:32 pm
Who was the guy the Braves drafted who is coming back from a really bad broken leg?
Fernelys Sanchez – outfielder.
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
3:33 pm
It’s just that the magic number relative to the closest team is the one that is most relevant.
Rather, the magic number relative to the team currently ahead, or for a team already in first, relative to the team in 2nd, is most relevant.
Probably a better way of putting it.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
3:33 pm
Wow, Freddi. Still chasing the Nats?
Atlanta Braves @Braves
Tonight’s lineup vs. MIA (7:10, SPSO/680AM/BRN): Constanza 8 Prado 7 Heyward 9 Jones 5 Freeman 3 Uggla 4 McCann 2 Simmons 6 Maholm 1
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
3:34 pm
Richard B. (West Columbia, SC): What do you think is the ceiling for Mauricio Cabrera from Atlanta? Does he project as a #2/3 starter or a bullpen arm? Reports so far have been good and the Braves have a track record of turning guys like Cabrera into very serviceable MLB arms.
Matthew Eddy: Cabrera has the raw tools to start, so that’s why he ranked as the league’s top righty pitching prospect. He could develop an intriguing mid-rotation profile if his breaking ball takes another step forward in the next 2 seasons. Maybe you’d like to see him miss more bats or walk fewer batters against Appy competition, but that’s just nitpicking when talking about an 18-year-old who has had success and already holds 93-94 mph velocity though his starts.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
3:36 pm
In 251 PAs, the Braves as a team have a .210/.291/.279/.570 line against Josh Johnson, tonight’s Marlins starter. They have 46 Hits over 219 ABs. The only XBH against him are 9 doubles and 2 HR. The Braves have 13 RBI against him. They have drawn 25 BBs and have K’d 66 times.
The only batters to have never faced him are Boscan, Jeff Baker, Juan Francisco, and Tyler Pastornicky. Chipper and BMac have hit him well, with BAs over .260 across 40+ ABs.
Prado, Heyward, Bourn, Overbay, Uggla, and Freeman all struggle against him (min of 10 ABs). Uggla is in fact, hitless. Might be a good time to give him an off day. Rev at 2nd!!!
For his career, Johnson is 6-5 in 18 starts (104 IP) against the Braves with a 2.29 ERA. At Turner Field, in 7 starts (48.1 IP) , he is 2-0 with a 1.49 ERA.
DerekZ
September 26th, 2012
3:37 pm
The Braves are totally DOUBLE PITS TO CHESTY.
DerekZ
September 26th, 2012
3:37 pm
The Braves are totally DOUBLE PITS TO CHESTY.
DerekZ
September 26th, 2012
3:37 pm
The Braves are totally DOUBLE PITS TO CHESTY.
DerekZ
September 26th, 2012
3:37 pm
The Braves are totally DOUBLE PITS TO CHESTY.
Ben
September 26th, 2012
3:37 pm
thanks for the answers guys, the parking for friday is all sold out! Didn’t know this was possible lol i bought parking tix for sat and sun. is taxi a possibility to get to the game friday?
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
3:37 pm
And the lineup’s already been posted…. Constanza in CF? Guess Bourn isn’t ready to go again yet. :/
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
3:37 pm
Tami,
Of course those passes are sold out. Scalpers buy those things for events like this.
The point is that there is non-Braves operated parking near TF. Always has been, always will be.
If you need Marta, then go north of the stadium and park and ride Marta. You can park downtown (cheap) and ride Marta, or try the east line.
Most won’t ever consider this, but the Inman Park stop is a pretty good place to park & ride. All depends on if you are willing to sacrifice time before/after the game, getting to and from.
I’ve said it on this blog many times, there is ample security after the games all the way from TF up to the Georgia State Marta Station; or, you can take the shuttle from the stadium to the Underground, and pick up the train there.
Saying Marta is “nowhere within” your route to TF, sounds a little bit dramatic, given that Marta runs a bus right to the front gate of TF.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
3:39 pm
Constanza is 2-5 against Johnson, with 1 RBI. 1 K as well. Of course, both hits were singles
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
3:40 pm
Ben, Yes, taxi is a posibility, assuming you are coming from downtown.
But I’ll also add this, the worst traffic leaving the game is if you park in one of the Braves lots, especially the one that sits on old Fulton County Stadium.
IMO, the further you are from the stadium (within a degree of reason), the better.
man and dog
September 26th, 2012
3:41 pm
Why doesn’t everyone start speaking Chinese instead of Japanese?
man and dog
September 26th, 2012
3:41 pm
Why doesn’t everyone start speaking Chinese instead of Japanese?
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
3:41 pm
Constanza is 2-5 against Johnson, with 1 RBI. 1 K as well. Of course, both hits were singles
Wel, golly gosh, no wonder Fredo wants to give him more ABs than anybody else in the lineup tonight.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
3:41 pm
From MLBTR:
Comment From Dan Haren
I hear Angels are declining my $15 mil option, what type of deal can I expect to find?
3:27
Ben Nicholson-Smith: That report caught me off-guard a little, since I had thought they’d exercise Haren’s option. They still could, but if they don’t I can see either a one-year, pillow contract or a four or five year deal for $13MM or so per season.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
3:43 pm
Comment From Tom
Any chance the Braves go ahead and try to lockup Freeman and Heyward to long term contracts this offseason?
3:32
Ben Nicholson-Smith: Yes, I’d say there’s a chance.
Comment From frank wren
What can i get in return for Hanson and Jair?
3:41
Ben Nicholson-Smith: Hanson probably still has a fair amount of trade value, though not nearly as much as he did when he seemed to be on his way to becoming an ace and was still pre-arbitration eligible.
Jurrjens has no trade value and will likely be non-tendered.
Didn’t really answer the question, esp. w/ Hanson. As for the 1st question, no need to lock up Freeman this winter.
Ray
September 26th, 2012
3:44 pm
And some people wonder why they get called out for posting something stupid. You just can’t fix it.
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
3:45 pm
Haters gonna hate
kenhotlanta
September 26th, 2012
3:47 pm
Murph: What about New Mexico Lee? However, it does not matter one iota, the whole Samantha soap opera was a blog highlight and will only grow in lore and appreciation. So, I will always give you props if you were involved and, if not, I loved it for what it was.
Brian
September 26th, 2012
3:47 pm
Last I checked, the Nats and Reds were tied. So there is a chance the wild card game winner will face the Reds, not the Nats. Why do all the Braves beat writers keep suggesting the Braves would face the Nats in the second round? The wild card winner plays the team with the best regular season record. With the way the schedule lines up, I wouldn’t be surprised if that team is the Reds
TennesseePaul
September 26th, 2012
3:47 pm
Thanks for the work CR!
GO BRAVES!!!
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
3:47 pm
Wel, golly gosh, no wonder Fredo wants to give him more ABs than anybody else in the lineup tonight
Can we get a different 5th outfielder next year? Not a big deal. Just would be nice to see someone else out there.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
3:48 pm
I would not give Haren a long term deal. He’s had a lot of back related issues throughout his career, no? I mean, I guess I could see a team giving him three years, 40 million. That’s a risk I do not think the Braves will take.
Guess again
September 26th, 2012
3:51 pm
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
3:27 pm
Actually Disbott, The Braves have “eliminated” all teams below St. Louis from contention in the WC game.
Braves have 89 wins
Dodgers & Brewers each have 75 losses
89 + 75 = 164
Not true. They only eliminated MIL and LAD from taking their spot. They (MIL or LAD) can still unseat the CARDS.
Brian
September 26th, 2012
3:51 pm
“Plus if the Braves win the wild card game, they could take advantage of the scheduling quirk this season and host the Nationals for the first two games of the Division Series.”
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
3:52 pm
Comment From Bob Dole
Aldreton Simmons for David Price – who says no?
3:44
Ben Nicholson-Smith: The Rays don’t make that deal.
Comment From Frank Pembleton
Cody Ross will get paid like…?
3:45
Ben Nicholson-Smith: Josh Willingham (three years, $21MM).
I’m assuming that Bob Dole meant Andrelton Simmons… if so, he’s crazy. Braves aren’t trading him
TennesseePaul
September 26th, 2012
3:52 pm
Last 9 Starts of the Starting 9
_________AVG__OBP__SLG___OPS_wOBA_L9S9+
Biff___ .320 .414 .360 0.774 .330 __134
Prado__ .438 .514 .563 1.076 .467 __216
Heyward .222 .237 .417 0.654 .296 ___80
Chipper .300 .421 .367 0.788 .345 __138
Freeman .303 .324 .667 0.991 .395 __168
Uggla__ .276 .389 .483 0.872 .378 __152
McCann_ .172 .273 .207 0.480 .234 ___47
Simmons .259 .344 .296 0.640 .298 ___94
Maholm_ .053 .053 .053 0.105 .045 __-69
raleighbravefan
September 26th, 2012
3:54 pm
Brian – The Nats will play the Cards for the WC, then face either us, or the Reds.
RC
September 26th, 2012
3:54 pm
Atlanta Braves @Braves
Tonight’s lineup vs. MIA (7:10, SPSO/680AM/BRN): Constanza 8 Prado 7 Heyward 9 Jones 5 Freeman 3 Uggla 4 McCann 2 Simmons 6 Maholm 1
There must be a typo…this says that Constanza is batting 1st.
Even though I’m not a huge fan of it, I’d actually rather have the pitcher batting 8th than Constanza 1st. Just shift everyone up one spot (and him to 9th), and this lineup looks half decent.
Ray
September 26th, 2012
3:54 pm
Interesting comments from Tony LaRussa this morning regarding long term contracts. He was saying he would not give Albert or any player a contract longer than 6 years. He said that the risks are too high once you get past that 5th or 6th year.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
3:54 pm
Comment From Michael Bourn
The contract I will get this off season will be for … ?
3:47
Ben Nicholson-Smith: My guess: Carl Crawford money (seven years, $142MM).
Ben Nicholson-Smith: I know Bourn has been slumping, but he’s an elite defender in center field who adds value on the bases and with his bat. I think he’ll get paid.
Comment From Golden Tate
7 years for Bourn! good lord that’s a lot of money
Ben Nicholson-Smith: I know… but I’ve under-estimated top free agent contracts for long enough. I think Bourn is in line for a major payday.
He thinks he’s understimated top free agent contracts, but to give Bourn that much is insane! Even with him being an elite defender who adds value with the bat and on the bases, that’s a stupid contract to hand to him
haggard
September 26th, 2012
3:55 pm
Ben
You may try parking in the garage across from the capitol, as I have many a time. It’s a bit more of a hike–but still safe–and may be an answer.
TennesseePaul
September 26th, 2012
3:55 pm
I’d like to see Chipper get at least 3 more HR’s and 1 more double before the season is over…
550 career doubles and 470 career HR. Not a bad round number there.
He would have easily hit 500+ HR without injuries.
Jimmy
September 26th, 2012
3:56 pm
“With the Nationals and Marlins taking some giant steps toward improvement, and the Braves not doing so, and with our less than stellar manager back at the helm, we could be looking up at everyone but the Mets.” – DOB Blogger in February 2012.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
3:56 pm
Comment From Jim
No one can be that stupid to pay Bourn that kind of money. Safe to say these are Bourn last days in a Braves uniform if he does anything like that.
3:51
Ben Nicholson-Smith: It only takes one owner. By definition Bourn will get more than what most of the industry would want to give him.
Comment From Angel Pagan
Aren’t I a better value for the dollar??
3:52
Ben Nicholson-Smith: Yes. I mean whoever signs Michael Bourn/Josh Hamilton will not be getting a value play. They’ll be getting an elite player at market value.
Comment From Pete
Since 2009, Bourn has the same WAR as Mauer & Prince (19.9). He needs to get paid -somewhat- close to them.
3:53
Ben Nicholson-Smith: That’s one of the points his agent will make this winter.
Comment From Bo
Who will give Bourn that kind of money? Washington? Philly?
3:54
Ben Nicholson-Smith: My instinct is to say the Nationals won’t do it. Their internal options are pretty good so I don’t think they need to be the high bidder.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
3:56 pm
Before this season, Dan Haren had seven straight seasons of at least 216 IP. He averaged 226 IP, a 3.49 ERA, and 34 starts per season.
Horse.
Just hope he isn’t maxed out and the injured back isn’t a glimpse into the future.
TennesseePaul
September 26th, 2012
3:56 pm
correction 2 more FR.
Brian
September 26th, 2012
3:57 pm
Raleigh, that’s what I stated “the wild card winner”. I know that they could potentially play the Reds, the Nats or maybe even the Giants. That’s my point. All the writers keep saying things like this “Plus if the Braves win the wild card game, they could take advantage of the scheduling quirk this season and host the Nationals for the first two games of the Division Series.”, which is not the case. They are jumping the gun assuming the Nats will have the best record in the NL. They are tied with the Reds as we speak.
TennesseePaul
September 26th, 2012
3:57 pm
And correct that to HR…
my fingers keep getting fatter.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
3:57 pm
TOBF – you know Ben Nicholson-Smith is basically like me or you, right?
RC
September 26th, 2012
3:58 pm
He would have easily hit 500+ HR without injuries.
That’s true for a lot of people….just part of the game. I agree that the round numbers would look nice, but whenever I think that I have to remind myself that it doesn’t make him any better for getting an extra 4/5 HR at this point. He’s done plenty already…..his legacy is pretty much written.
RC
September 26th, 2012
3:59 pm
TOBF – you know Ben Nicholson-Smith is basically like me or you, right?
Once you’ve followed baseball long enough, isn’t everyone basically “like me or you”? (unless they have access and/or sources)
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
3:59 pm
Comment From Crow T Robot
BJ Upton is 5/75 then?
3:56
Ben Nicholson-Smith: I think that’s toward the high end of what he’ll get, but I think that’s one possible outcome.
That’s a bit rich for BJ….
Comment From Jay
Do you think Chipper Jones will retire after the regular season, or will he play in the playoffs?
3:57
Ben Nicholson-Smith: He’ll play in the playoffs.
Comment From chris thomas
i say blur jays get bourn for 45 mill over 4 years…he’s aging and slumping
3:57
Ben Nicholson-Smith: Not happening.
The last 2 are nominated for stupids of the day.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
4:01 pm
Yeah, he is, Efrim, but he does seem to have a somewhat good handle on what’s going on… kinda like you and scoots.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
4:03 pm
Sabathia is nuts. Another 8 IP, double digit strikeout outing. Him and Verlander, man. Those two have an ability to reach back and deliever whether it’s during a game or part of the full season. Definition of Ace – those two.
man and dog
September 26th, 2012
4:04 pm
Fredi Gonzalas for president
Ray
September 26th, 2012
4:04 pm
Don’t be surprised if Bourn gets close to that type of money per year. The overall number 142 I doubt it but I do believe it will be over 100m total
RC
September 26th, 2012
4:04 pm
Definition of Ace – those two.
But are they #1’s?
Murph
September 26th, 2012
4:04 pm
Murph: What about New Mexico Lee?
No, can’t take any credit for those posts, just the one from Samantha quoting the Bell Biv Devoe lyrics.
Smack it up, flip it, rub it down, oh no!
What can I say? I’m a BBD fan.
TennesseePaul
September 26th, 2012
4:06 pm
In Chipper’s age 37-40 seasons, over 1900+ PA’s, 465+ games he has hit .275/.373/.450/.823 with 163 XBH including 60 HR for a 121 OPS+.
…
Barry Bonds hit .355/.570/.782/1.352 with a 252 OPS+ (141 HR) in his age 37-40 seasons (434 games, 1831 PA’s)… Those 4 seasons combined… compared to the entire history of the game for single season OPS+ ranks… those 4 seasons would be 6th all time, behind Bonds, Bonds, Bonds, Dunlap(1884), and Ruth.
Ken Stallings
September 26th, 2012
4:06 pm
Carroll,
Thanks for that advisory on the tie-breaker over the Cards. I did not know that before now. That is a critical fact and makes the home field Wild Card a practical guarantee at this point.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
4:07 pm
Good point there Brian, and something I have kinda hit on the last week or so….
IF the Nats fall and either have to play the Braves in a #163 or fall outright, I’d imagine the Reds end up w/ the best record….
Especially if the Nats went 2-6 like some have suggest….that would allow the Reds 1 win in each series against the Brewers, slumping Pirates, and Cards….
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
4:07 pm
Where’s McFann?
I dunno, maybe she’ll return when Mac starts carrying his ‘weight?’
idk
Jimmy
September 26th, 2012
4:07 pm
“Plus if the Braves win the wild card game, they could take advantage of the scheduling quirk…..”
I think the operative word is “could”.
Like that crap I see on tv alot…”Certain studies suggest that (fill in the blank) could help with (whatever)”.
“Certain studies” – not all, just some.
“Suggest” – leans toward, but not concrete.
“Could” – it is a possibility.
TennesseePaul
September 26th, 2012
4:07 pm
Sabathia is nuts
It’s about time one of the Yankees massive deals to a pitcher pays off… They’ve signed so many guys to big money for that staff and he’s the only one who has lived up to the contract.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
4:07 pm
RC-
No…people tell me I have a northern accent….
So no, not all like you
Mikey
September 26th, 2012
4:08 pm
TOBF: Thanks for the Johnson stats and he is indeed a superb pitcher. Problem is, his team stinks and they have an idiot for a manager and NO motivation to play for him.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
4:08 pm
Sabathia was worth the money for the Yanks. Zack will be the same.
RC
September 26th, 2012
4:10 pm
IF the Nats fall and either have to play the Braves in a #163 or fall outright, I’d imagine the Reds end up w/ the best record….
This is the ideal situation for the Braves, IMO. We would be the host team against SF in Round 1, while the Nats would have to play a 1 game playoff against someone, and then the winner of that would get the first 2 at home against Cincy (although if Cincy is able to advance they could potentially have 5 home games in a row between the two rounds).
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
4:12 pm
Efrim-
Cmon now…..grab a towel, wipe yourself off, and don’t get too excited….
He was facing the Twins after all….
Don’t get me wrong, they have tough outs 1-4 in their lineup but 5-9 they are about as statistically easy as it gets….let me put it this way, it’d be like Sabathia mowing down a lineup that from 5-9 would consist of Overbay, Baker, Hinske, Pastornicky, and Jack Wilson…..
Or are we not allowed to compare Jamie Carroll to Pastornicky yet?
RC
September 26th, 2012
4:13 pm
RC-
No…people tell me I have a northern accent….
So no, not all like you
Reminds me of my first Christmas home from college. I went to school in Atlanta, yet when I said hi to my grandfather upon getting home he paused, gave me a strange look, and said, “You sound like a damn Yankee!” Must have been that Atlanta accent
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
4:13 pm
I do suggest though that the Orioles get ready for Friday October 5th….
I don’t think theyre getting the breaks now quite like they were and theyve awoken the Yankee bats.
ChattTownBrian
September 26th, 2012
4:14 pm
Man I hope we hunt down the Nats. That one gamer is still giving me nightmares. Sickening feeling we lose that game because this is baseball and crazy things are supposed to happen. Let’s hope we aren’t the brunt of this games tricks come Oct 5.
raleighbravefan
September 26th, 2012
4:14 pm
Brian – I understand what you were saying. I was saying that the Braves would win the East, and the Nats the WC…only slightly being facetious.
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
4:15 pm
although if Cincy is able to advance they could potentially have 5 home games in a row between the two rounds
Players would have to be nimble to avoid stepping in owner drool.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
4:17 pm
I’ll be in a car driving down to Philly for a Rehersal Dinner on Friday night, October 5th. Friggin brutal.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
4:18 pm
RC-
Very nice….yeah, it seems like every time I go somewhere in the Southeast they tell me that….
Theyre like where are you from and I say IL and they say Illinois pronouncing the ’s’ and Im like um, no, the S is silent on the end thank you….and they still stare at me….
I guess I just don’t understand as I’ve spoken this way my whole life and only notice Southerners and their constant use of the word “ya’ll”
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
4:19 pm
Guess Again:
That’s what I meant. It coudl be inferred from what I was responding to.
But thanks for your insight.
RC
September 26th, 2012
4:19 pm
I’ll be in a car driving down to Philly for a Rehersal Dinner on Friday night, October 5th. Friggin brutal.
Ouch. Better be a good friend.
My only known postseason scheduling concern is that I have a flight to Baltimore on Friday, Nov 2nd. If that becomes an issue, however, I think I’d be perfectly happy missing that flight.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
4:20 pm
I hope you’re just in the car and not actually doing the driving…. that’ll be 1 scary Efrim if we’re down late and/or lose the game!
Half Empty
September 26th, 2012
4:20 pm
and then of course we have the emotionally challenged who are obsessed with bitching and moaning about every little thing that goes wrong and who regale in slandering and insulting the players/manager/owners/folks who don’t like constant whiners, ones who obviously are lacking in self awareness, and whenever confronted say that they are just being sarcastic although 98% of what comes out of their computer is in the same vein. don’t forget those guys in your diatribe.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
4:20 pm
Thanx for the info CARROLL.
Venice Jim
September 26th, 2012
4:21 pm
Adam Kilgore @AdamKilgoreWP
Danny Espinosa says he’s “100 percent.” Says to ask Davey why he’s out “because I’d like to know, too.”
RC
September 26th, 2012
4:23 pm
Adam Kilgore @AdamKilgoreWP
Danny Espinosa says he’s “100 percent.” Says to ask Davey why he’s out “because I’d like to know, too.”
Come’on controversy!
RC
September 26th, 2012
4:23 pm
I hope you’re just in the car and not actually doing the driving…. that’ll be 1 scary Efrim if we’re down late and/or lose the game!
Program the GPS to avoid bridges….
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
4:24 pm
I’m richbrave BTW Carroll.
I’m Ghost at the moment because that’s what CHIPPER’s gonna’ be for us BRAVES fans at the end of this season. So to honor him, and remind everyone to go to every game you can, and see one of the best switch-hitters in the history of ML baseball.
raleighbravefan
September 26th, 2012
4:24 pm
Some of the greatest players in the history of the game missed significant time, or eneded their careers early, due to injuries…or little things like WW II and Korea. Mays, Ted Williams, Demagio, Whitey Ford, Mantle, Kofax…just to name a few.
raleighbravefan
September 26th, 2012
4:25 pm
Not to mention Cemente.
raleighbravefan
September 26th, 2012
4:26 pm
…or..Clemente.
ChattTownBrian
September 26th, 2012
4:28 pm
I can climb the highest mountain, cross the wildest sea … I can feel Braves Country burning in me
Geek anthem of October?
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
4:29 pm
There’s only one October.
kenhotlanta
September 26th, 2012
4:30 pm
McFann was on toward the end of the game last night, I think. She sounded disappointed in all the BMac haters, and I don’t blame her. It’s like if someone told me Jennifer Love Hewitt was fat and ugly, I would kick their arse.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
4:30 pm
Here is a nice piece on MLBTradeRumors:
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/09/extension-candidate-kris-medlen.html
Cost-certainty is also of particular interest to a franchise that has kept a mid-level payroll since being bought by Liberty Media in 2007. The Braves had a $102MM payroll in 2008 but have since ranged between $86-$93MM, with only $15MM in committed salary for 2013. If they believe Medlen is the real deal, an extension could save the team millions through Medlen’s arb years. Extending him now would cost maybe $10MM over three years ($2MM in 2013, $4MM in both 2014 and 2015) with perhaps a $6MM club option for Medlen’s first free agent year.
The Braves have a lot of business to attend to this winter, since such major names as Hanson, Jason Heyward and Jonny Venters are also arb-eligible for the first time, Martin Prado is only a year away from free agency and the team is expected to at least attempt to re-sign Michael Bourn. Given Medlen’s injury history and the fact that his arb number may be $2.4MM at the most, Atlanta could be in no rush to pursue a multiyear deal quite yet with the right-hander.
Medlen will get one (very high-profile) further chance to prove himself as he’s scheduled to start for Atlanta in the wild card playoff game. Just the fact that the Braves would give Medlen this start is a sign that they believe he’s more than just a pitcher on a hot streak, so they could also be eager to lock him up while his price is still low.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
4:31 pm
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/09/extension-candidate-kris-medlen.html?
Extending him now would cost maybe $10MM over three years ($2MM in 2013, $4MM in both 2014 and 2015) with perhaps a $6MM club option for Medlen’s first free agent year.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
4:31 pm
darn, ninja’d. Twitter is so slow!
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
4:33 pm
Extending him now would cost maybe $10MM over three years ($2MM in 2013, $4MM in both 2014 and 2015) with perhaps a $6MM club option for Medlen’s first free agent year.
Shoot, I’d give him more than that…
phil
September 26th, 2012
4:36 pm
Mac is fat and ugly, not JLH…
phil
September 26th, 2012
4:38 pm
Medlen gave up two moonshot homers last night…..
Dump his tatooed butt…..
HooRah
September 26th, 2012
4:40 pm
she’s busty, I’ll give her that
RC
September 26th, 2012
4:40 pm
Shoot, I’d give him more than that…
I find it unlikely he would accept that deal….$4M in 2015 seems pretty low, regardless of certainty.
If they made that offer with the $6M option a guaranteed year, that might be enough security for him to accept (and I would certainly make him that offer).
RC
September 26th, 2012
4:41 pm
regardless of certainty.
Should have said “regardless of security”.
Puma
September 26th, 2012
4:42 pm
I don’t think I would extend Meds until after next year.
DAP
September 26th, 2012
4:43 pm
Tami, here is where you should park in relation to the field. easiest way to get there is off of the university parkway exit off of I-85: http://goo.gl/maps/m7tbt
Murph
September 26th, 2012
4:44 pm
It’s like if someone told me Jennifer Love Hewitt was fat and ugly, I would kick their arse.
I used to spend my days on the Party of Five blog, but the exchanges got too heated on show days.
Half Empty
September 26th, 2012
4:44 pm
I think I would wait too. I am not a big fan of extending pitchers earlier than necessary
Puma
September 26th, 2012
4:45 pm
I would like to see Prado extended – I wonder what kind of deal he gets. Is 4 years $36 million sound about right – its kind of hard to find comparables for him.
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
4:45 pm
I find it unlikely he would accept that deal
No kidding. That guy must think $10MM is a lot of money.
You tell a kid “never turn down the chance to make your first fortune”, but that isn’t a “fortune”, in baseball terms. If I’m his agent, I sneer at that.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
4:45 pm
I think it would have to be structured like…
2013: $2M 2014: $4M 2015: $6M 2016: $6M 2017: $7M club option ($1M buyout)
Four years, $19 million. Five years, $25 million if the option is exercised.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
4:48 pm
I’ll even add an extra million to each year….
2013: $3M 2014: $5M 2015: $7M 2016: $7M 2017: $8M club option ($1M buyout)
Four years, $23 million. Five years, $30 million if the option is exercised.
phil
September 26th, 2012
4:48 pm
Medlen’s body of work, while apparently unprecedented, is way too small to be paying out a fortune for.
Let’s see him go through next year like this, which is very, very unlikely, and then talk big dollars.
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
4:49 pm
I think it would have to be structured like…
Gotta remember that he’s 27 already. If he goes five years out, the back-end money has to be closer to market value. He can’t afford to be under market for his prime years and hope to make it back in middle 30s.
raleighbravefan
September 26th, 2012
4:50 pm
scoots – I agree…sounds pretty sneerable. If I’m the Braves, I’d probably wait another year befor worrying about Medlen, anyway.
phil
September 26th, 2012
4:50 pm
A month or two ago, many were trying to pay a fortune to the now forgotten Ben sheets based on 3 stellar outings….
While we’re at it, let’s pay Overbay 10 million and re-up Hinske for 5 million….
phil
September 26th, 2012
4:52 pm
The reality is, when one is making millions of dollars – period – that if it’s taken care of, there’s no need to “make it back” at some point…..
Not how it works, of course, but good lord, pay me 10 million or so, and I think I’ll find a way to make it last and be quite grateful in the process….
Anyway we can get paid for blogging here?
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
4:52 pm
If I’m the Braves, I’d probably wait another year befor worrying about Medlen, anyway.
Yeah, I might be willing to talk trades and stuff in the middle of a pennant race, but I’m gonna draw the line at contract extensions.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
4:52 pm
Medlen will turn 27 next Sunday.
‘13: 27 year old season
‘14: 28
‘15: 29
‘16: 30
‘17: 31
Puma
September 26th, 2012
4:53 pm
Agreed ncsoots – doesn’t really seem advantageous for either side to extend. If Meds continues even at 80% of the success he’s had so far, he’ll be making $18 million + that first year of free agency. And in the interim, will still get paid pretty well in his arb years.
Half Empty
September 26th, 2012
4:53 pm
lets not forget to extend Francisco and Constanza too
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
4:54 pm
I would draw the line at like 8-9 million right now for those free agency years. No way I’m going higher than that right now for a guy who hasn’t thrown 180 inning at the big league level – which is probably why an agreement will not be reached.
Puma
September 26th, 2012
4:54 pm
Scoots – I meant more wait to see how Meds pitches for an entire year, not the timing of talking to him about extension
Hillbilly
September 26th, 2012
4:56 pm
I’ll be in a car driving down to Philly for a Rehersal Dinner on Friday night, October 5th. Friggin brutal.
As the father of a PeeWee Football Cheerleader, I’ll be at the homecoming parade that afternoon. I’m praying the Braves get the prime-time slot, because I doubt I’ll be able to hear Jim Powell on the MLB At-Bat App over all of the ruckus that afternoon.
RC
September 26th, 2012
4:56 pm
I’ll even add an extra million to each year….
2013: $3M 2014: $5M 2015: $7M 2016: $7M 2017: $8M club option ($1M buyout)
Four years, $23 million. Five years, $30 million if the option is exercised.
I’m thinking that total amount makes sense, but I’d expect the distribution to be a bit different:
2013: $2M 2014: $4M 2015: $6.5M 2016: $8.5M 2017: $10M club option ($1.5M buyout)
Four years, $22.5 (with buyout). Five years, $31 with option exercised.
Half Empty
September 26th, 2012
4:57 pm
Puma, scoots usually has his tongue firmly embedded in his cheek.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
4:57 pm
Hope for a Baltimore home game then, HB. Oakland gets that game and the Braves will be playing at 5:07pm EST – right when I am crossing the George Washington Bridge – awful.
DAP
September 26th, 2012
4:57 pm
efrim I would not give Haren a long term deal. He’s had a lot of back related issues throughout his career, no?
looks to me like he hasnt missed a start since 2005. id defietly give him a ling term deal, preferably 3 years, but id do 4.
Murph
September 26th, 2012
4:58 pm
Extend Fredi! (but fire TP)
Frank Wren
September 26th, 2012
4:58 pm
My highest priority during the off season will be to sign a long term contract for $10 million per year to secure the services of that great hitter Lyle Overbay.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
4:59 pm
DAP, you could be right – I just remember him pitching through that stuff, but I could be wrong.
Haren is an interesting case. Lots of mileage on that arm. Back issue this year, less than great performance. Current team paying him 3.5 million to leave. Tough call.
Hillbilly
September 26th, 2012
5:00 pm
Ef, of course that’s all null and void because the Braves are going to win the NL East and we can all take care of our business with no worries Friday evening.
Murph
September 26th, 2012
5:00 pm
looks to me like he hasnt missed a start since 2005.
Didn’t he miss one in July this year? Or was he moved to the BP?
Half Empty
September 26th, 2012
5:01 pm
Haren is a pretty big risk IMO. back issues before and again this season. at one time he was considered an extreme health risk. I guess it is hard to forget that
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
5:02 pm
The reality is, when one is making millions of dollars – period – that if it’s taken care of, there’s no need to “make it back” at some point…..
You think? A kid such as Medlen will probably live another 60 years. That’s several economic cycles, which may or may not be kind to any investments made with his money or to businesses he may have founded with his money. There are only about a gazillion ways you can fail to protect assets, and the longer the time-frame of protection sought, the more likely the protections will fail.
TennesseePaul
September 26th, 2012
5:02 pm
but whenever I think that I have to remind myself that it doesn’t make him any better for getting an extra 4/5 HR at this point
Nonsense. It makes him 4 or 5 HR better. ( :
… the nice round numbers and the proximity to certifiable HOF hurdles, I believe, will push him over the top with any BWAA voters who a) don’t hold the line of no-first-ballot-players yet b) look for certain career thresholds to be achieved. I call ‘em swing voters.
And lastly, it is hardly true of a “lot of people.” It is true of truly great players. But a lot of people would never hit 500HR in the majors over a 20 year span. It just isn’t easy to do, even if healthy for 20 years.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
5:03 pm
Ef, of course that’s all null and void because the Braves are going to win the NL East and we can all take care of our business with no worries Friday evening.
Nothing would make me happier than to watch that Game 1 on Sunday evening – I think that’s when it is…
Just get me a playoff series. That’s really all I want.
JoeBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
5:03 pm
Get used to seeing Constanza in CF…if we can’t re-sign Bourn, I have a feeling Constanza will replace him there. Of course, Heyward could move over and Constanza could take RF or LF. Lots of possibilities there. This winter should be interesting for the Bravos…but until that time, let’s get a WS Title shall we?!
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
5:05 pm
I’m a fan of nice round numbers.
Hoping for 30 HR’s from Heyward, 60 BB’s, 20 SB’s.
Freeman – 25 HR’s, 65 BB’s.
onebravosfan
September 26th, 2012
5:06 pm
It seems like we could resign Reed Johnson for CF if we can’t resign Bourn. It would seem like he would be a better option than Georgie on most nights.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
5:06 pm
Get used to seeing Constanza in CF…if we can’t re-sign Bourn, I have a feeling Constanza will replace him there.
Constanza in CF so we can spend lots of money on Nick Swisher in LF…..
Oh man……
Spartacus
September 26th, 2012
5:08 pm
Please don’t rest anyone under 30 yrs of age. They don’t need it and it will screw up their mojo!
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
September 26th, 2012
5:08 pm
haggard When is the last time there’s been a McFann sighting? Where did she go?
Hi! I stopped by for a little while on Sunday…I’ve just been unplugged from the Blog a lot more lately…
Half Empty
September 26th, 2012
5:09 pm
no way that Constanza is a starter for the Braves next season
Felix
September 26th, 2012
5:12 pm
Oh Filly trolls, where are you?
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
5:14 pm
So, has 5:07 PM been announced as the time of the first game on Oct. 5?
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
5:14 pm
Murph-
Party of 5 blog :lol
What were the biggest two blog threads….
About JLH: Are they or aren’t they (real) ?
About SW: Is he or isn’t he (gay) ?
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
5:15 pm
UKUGA-
Somewhere around there would be my guess…..
I would guess 4 ET and 8 ET…….that would seem to make the most sense
TennesseePaul
September 26th, 2012
5:16 pm
Since June 19th…
_________PA__K_BB__AVG__OBP__SLG__OPS
Freeman 358 61 46 .278 .380 .487 .867
Heyward 375 89 32 .282 .341 .518 .859
Freeman, hopefully, is heating up here right at the end. He’s got a nice little 3 game streak going. Hope they both can catch fire heading into the play-offs. September has not been all that pretty, save for that walk off home run to clinch the berth.
September
________PA__K_BB__AVG__OBP__SLG__OPS
Freeman 87 21 11 .247 .345 .425 .769
Heyward 93 15 05 .264 .301 .448 .749
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
5:17 pm
P-town,
thanks, I had guessed 4 and 8, but “5:07″ seemed pretty specific, as if someone had seen that somewhere.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
5:18 pm
Efrim -
Given there will be 4 games and the Yankees will more than likely be involved on that Sunday I would doubt it….
The Yanks will always get the primetime game and everyone else will have to adjust accordingly
KC
September 26th, 2012
5:19 pm
Just catching the Nats does us no good. The Braves must pass them, because the Nationals hold the head-to-head tie breaker. So the real # is 5 games, not 4.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
5:19 pm
UKUGA-
Yeah, frankly 3 my time wouldnt bother me as much because it gives Medlen a distinct advantage….
HOWEVER, since its all about me and I will still be in work since I cant take another day off because I am taking off 5 starting tomorrow to come down to ATL….
Yeah….I know….only thinking about myself…
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
5:20 pm
KC-
No not true….starting in 2012 ALL division titles MUST be decided by a 1 game playoff regardless of in season results
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
5:21 pm
Efrim-
Here’s something interesting I found in the postseason schedule footer….
*** TBS will air three of the four Division Series games on Sunday, October 7th and up to three games on Wednesday, October 10th. MLB Network will air one Division Series game on both of those dates. TBS will air 18 of the 20 Division Series games.
HooRah
September 26th, 2012
5:22 pm
The Braves must pass them, because the Nationals hold the head-to-head tie breaker. So the real # is 5 games, not 4.
KC, there is no head to head tie breaker there is a playoff game
Felix
September 26th, 2012
5:23 pm
We know you’re out there Filly trolls. Out there somewhere — hiding in the shadows, lurking in the sewers and slinking around the swamps.
KC
September 26th, 2012
5:24 pm
P-Towne, I did not know that. Thanks. Maybe there is an outside chance of tying them… I just didn’t see passing them at all.
BravePack(FreeFan)
September 26th, 2012
5:30 pm
From last blog:
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
3:36 pm
Fly on the Wall-
“simultaneous” is not a good word these days…
Just ask BravePack and the NFL Replacement Refs
You had to go there huh P-Town? Thanks a lot buddy I’ve been trying to calm myself down after Monday and now I read that word and I’m back to where I was on Monday.
But I do have to say our Bravos and Freeman made my week much, much better after last night. I’d trade a sh!tty season of the Packers for a 2012 Atlanta Braves Championship anyday especially to see Chipper go out on top.
Growler
September 26th, 2012
5:32 pm
HooRah says: “KC, there is no head to head tie breaker there is a playoff game”
That’s why, as great as it would be to win the division, if there is a chance at a tie after 162 games (for THAT one-game playoff) you really have to consider exactly WHO you would start in that game, which is not the do-or-die game. I assume that game would have the expanded, September rosters, which could impact strategy.
BFChris27
September 26th, 2012
5:35 pm
My 28th Birthday is this Saturday, would be a nice present to see Braves possibly going for the east and possibly getting it. I’d be OK with a 1 game play off if Braves win it tho.
O.M.G.
September 26th, 2012
5:37 pm
McFann, good to see you. Hope you are well. How is Petey?
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
September 26th, 2012
5:39 pm
Thanks, O.M.G! I’m doing pretty good, you?…
Petey’s fine—just cranky from molting…:)
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
5:41 pm
Sorry BP…
Being a Bears fan and how you did us w/ the fake FG and in that game, you know I had to go there….
Even I can say you got screwed and thats a) being a Bears fan and b) being a Golden Tate fan given he’s a Notre Dame alum….
I frankly though have grown beyond tired of reading my Twitter and FB feeds blown up by people that had no investment in this game….if you weren’t a Packer or Seahawks fan, a NFL rep, a NFLRA rep, or you lost money over it….please shut the F up about it!
EVERYONE —- meaning all 30 teams has been screwed by the officiating at this point…..and everyone should know by now that was what was going to happen and it could ONLY get worse and to that point….I mean jeebus chriminy, they had DIII and JuCo ball refs…..
I just don’t get what people expected here when the regular refs aren’t that great and then you drop down about 20 notches…..
O.M.G.
September 26th, 2012
5:43 pm
I guess that would make me cranky too. LOL. I’m good, thanks for asking.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
5:43 pm
Growler -
I explained this one in the last blog….
IF all games are meaningful and Huddy has to pitch in Game 162, then they would be all setup to throw Mike Minor in the Game 163 in DC
HooRah
September 26th, 2012
5:43 pm
special 25 man roster for that one game which can then be changed for the series if you get past that first game
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
5:47 pm
I believe DOB or Bowman already said Fredi is leaning toward 3 starting pitchers, 15 position players, and 7 relievers for the 1 game play-in….
My question and something ive never hit on before….
IF the Braves and Nats do go to a Game 163, do they go back to the 25 man roster format OR do you get the advantage of having the September callups and all 40 spots at your disposal for that game?
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
5:48 pm
Wonder if anyone on the blog can get that special 25man roster locked down exactly
coastalbrave
September 26th, 2012
5:48 pm
Carroll, how do you get a permit for parking Friday. We have tickets to the game, but how do we get the permit to park? Thanks.
MFin04
September 26th, 2012
5:50 pm
“TBS will air three of the four Division Series games”
TBS stinks. Can’t stand that network after they dumped the Braves. I didn’t even know TBS knew there was a National League anymore.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
5:51 pm
TOBF-
Thats what I said about it….
Let me think a minute….I may get close….
Neki
September 26th, 2012
5:55 pm
I got a quick question:
If the Braves doesnt resign Bourn and they are willing to trade Hansen, do yall think that they might put themselves in the David Price/Hamition race?
HooRah
September 26th, 2012
5:55 pm
I think the same rules would apply as before for playoff games
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
5:56 pm
I could probably guess 6 of the 7 relievers and then the final spot would either go down to Gearrin or Moylan I would imagine….
So that would be Avilan, Durbin, Kimbrel, Martinez, O’Flaherty, and Venters….
Then I would guess the 3 starters would be Medlen, Huddy, and Minor…but like I said, thats a HUGE guess….I would think Maholm would be unavailable as he is scheduled to throw in the final series and more than likely will…..(as Hanson may throw in PIT as well)
For the position players….
McCann
Ross
Freeman
Uggla
Simmons
Jones
Prado
Bourn
Heyward
Johnson
Pastornicky
Francisco
Constanza
Baker (only because he’s another RH bat)
Hinske (only because he hasnt stunk quite as bad as Overbay — but barely!)
I would doubt they’d carry a 3rd catcher for a single game….
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
5:56 pm
coastalbrave,
if you are desperate to pay a premium to park in a Braves lot, then try ebay or stubhub. ( I saw one on ebay for over $50.)
HooRah
September 26th, 2012
5:57 pm
certainly not Josh Hamilton and I would think Price would be out of their price range in terms of talent
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
5:57 pm
Neki-
David Price isn’t going anywhere….
And I don’t see any way they have the money to pony up for the Josh Hamilton sweepstakes….
David O'Brien
September 26th, 2012
5:57 pm
IF the Braves and Nats do go to a Game 163, do they go back to the 25 man roster format OR do you get the advantage of having the September callups and all 40 spots at your disposal for that game? — P-Town Brave
My understanding, when I asked about this, was that it’s considered a regular-season game and you get to keep your September expanded roster for that one.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
5:58 pm
Not paying Hamilton and we don’t have the pieces to trade for Price. Even James Shields is a stretch. Our farm isn’t all that strong
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
5:58 pm
P-town,
Game 163 has always been considered a regular season game for as long as I’ve been breathing. If you don’t get to keep your full roster, I don’t know why not.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
5:58 pm
Coastal-
Why not just drive and park at Sandy Springs and park and ride MARTA….parking is free there if I remember correctly….
IABrave
September 26th, 2012
5:58 pm
PT Brave- I am almost 100% positive but I believe Game 163 would act like the regular season and so they would get to use the September Callups if needed. But I am sure DOB can correct me if I am wrong
HooRah
September 26th, 2012
5:59 pm
three starters huh? not sure why they would do that
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
6:00 pm
DOB-
Thx much for the heads up on that one DOB…..on top of things as always….
Don’t know if you saw my message earlier but I was curious how much field time you get during BP…
I will be on the field Sat and wouldn’t mind introducing myself to the brains (or at least conductor) of this crazy outfit here
coastalbrave
September 26th, 2012
6:01 pm
UKUGA , do you think the off site lots will be packed on Friday? I would hate to get there and not find a parking spot. Thanks.
HooRah
September 26th, 2012
6:07 pm
if they get to use the extended roster why was there talk about who they would select?
braves1
September 26th, 2012
6:09 pm
Hey DOB….did you watch last night’s sons of anarchy? That was a pretty gut wrenching episode.
O.M.G.
September 26th, 2012
6:09 pm
I think that was referring to the w.c. game, not game 163.
Jay Dubu
September 26th, 2012
6:10 pm
Didn’t realize that the Braves had so few players locked up already for next year. Is Huddy the only contract in place for next season?
HooRah
September 26th, 2012
6:11 pm
Huddy is an option, I think only Uggla is locked in Jay
ncbravesfan90
September 26th, 2012
6:11 pm
“Didn’t realize that the Braves had so few players locked up already for next year. Is Huddy the only contract in place for next season?”
Uggla is under contract for next year as well…
HooRah
September 26th, 2012
6:11 pm
Gotcha OMG
Jay Dubu
September 26th, 2012
6:13 pm
Wait a minute….how can the Braves have only 15MM committed for 2013 with Huddy, Uggs, and Chipper’s buyout?
Am I missing something?
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
6:14 pm
I kinda agree with your roster P-Town, except I’d replace CMart with Gearrin, and go with just 6 relievers. 3 starters though (just in case). Medlen, Hudson, Minor.
On offense, guess we kinda have to put Hinske on. There isn’t another good option on the 40man.
HooRah
September 26th, 2012
6:15 pm
Huddy is not a guarantee, it is an option. Dan is the only guaranteed contract for next season
extremus
September 26th, 2012
6:15 pm
You can be the hotter team, you can be the BETTER team by 10-plus games (the Braves are currently 5-plus ahead of the Cardinals), and all of that is rendered moot by the outcome of a single wildcard playoff game. They win and they go on, they lose and the season is over…so much for the better effort up to that point (not to mention any hope of Chipper Jones being able to bookend his career with World Series championships). There’s no question that I’d feel more comfortable with the Braves being able to win the division and bypass this sorry excuse for a “round”. The extra wildcard team and especially the one-game playoff are two of the stupidest things ever done by MLB, and I can’t hope enough that both ideas get scrapped as soon as humanly possible.
Jay Dubu
September 26th, 2012
6:16 pm
Isn’t Maholm under contract for 2013?
ncbravesfan90
September 26th, 2012
6:16 pm
And you don’t have to buy out chipper’s option considering he’s retiring…
HooRah
September 26th, 2012
6:17 pm
option on Maholm too I believe
HooRah
September 26th, 2012
6:18 pm
I’m thinking they will pick up the options of Huddy, Maholm and Mac though
Murph
September 26th, 2012
6:23 pm
I like Moylan, but he’d better not be getting the ball in October unless we’re up by 10… he’s pitched all of 4 innings this season.
Jay Dubu
September 26th, 2012
6:30 pm
Chipper’s not retiring empty handed with the option on the table. He’s taking some of that with him. When it was mentioned last year that he thought about not coming back this season, it was discovered because he was talking about a settlement to leave a year early.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
6:31 pm
Murph: Spot on there! Throw Hanson in as well, he’s pitched more innings, but not enough very good ones… can’t let him start, and I don’t like him out of the ‘pen.
Jay Dubu
September 26th, 2012
6:35 pm
Frank Wren really has his work cut out for him this offseason. Not that a lot of the current roster will be leaving, but settling on salaries for so many players.
Really think that Francisco will be back in 2013.
HooRah
September 26th, 2012
6:35 pm
Chipper did not meet the minimum that would have made that last year kick in, they will owe him nothing as far as I can tell
Murph
September 26th, 2012
6:35 pm
TOBF, I can’t imagine they’d give Hanson even an inning… he can’t keep the ball in the park and can’t be counted on at all.
It’s sad, but it is what it is.
Jay Dubu
September 26th, 2012
6:35 pm
HooRah, forgot about that. Thanks for the info.
Jay Dubu
September 26th, 2012
6:38 pm
Medlen, Huddy, Minor, & Maholm, or will Fredi go righty, lefty, righty, lefty?
I know that Medlen and Huddy get the 1st 2 games, but what will Fredi do past that?
Brave4life-1995 All over again
September 26th, 2012
6:41 pm
Crazy how Baltimore is leading the wild card with a – 11 run differential
Whens the last time that happened?
HooRah
September 26th, 2012
6:43 pm
It’s exceedingly rare for a team with a negative run differential to make the playoffs. In fact, just five have done so: the 1984 Royals (-13), 1987 Twins (-20), 1997 Giants (-9), 2005 Padres (-44) and 2007 Diamondbacks (-20). The Twins, who went 85-77, are the only one of those teams to win the World Series, with the Diamondbacks the only other team in that group to win a postseason series;
Brave4life-1995 All over again
September 26th, 2012
6:50 pm
Good info HooRah
optimist
September 26th, 2012
6:50 pm
Regarding the parking issue on Friday,
The way we always do it for a big game is to park in a private lot off Ralph David Abernathy blvd and Central Ave (Google map it). Easiest way is to get off from southbound I75/85 at Fulton St and go right (away from the stadium) where everyone else is going left, then turn left at the bottom of the hill. Go straight to RDA blvd and turn left. You will quickly see private parking opportunities on both sides
There is a barrier in RDA but it has a gap where you can U-turn and then park at a lot at the corner of Central Avenue. This is the perfect lot because after the game, with a massive crush of cars everywhere else, all you do is turn right on Central Avenue, then you will have several chances to get back on Interstate 75/85 North (assuming you need to go north) – by turning right on Ellis or on John Wesley Dobbs. If you miss those, you will end up on Peachtree Street, from which you will have still another chance to turn onto I-85 later.
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
6:57 pm
Alright, lets DO this !!
bravofan
September 26th, 2012
7:08 pm
so what time are we assuming that the game will be on Monday October 8th?
ChattTownBrian
September 26th, 2012
7:12 pm
Come on Paul!
Brava
September 26th, 2012
7:12 pm
Thank you, Carroll.
GO BRAVES!!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
7:13 pm
The roughest part of the season was May into June. The Braves lost eight games in a row, the eighth coming on Memorial Day. Two weeks later, they were swept at home by the Yankees, and the clamor over Gonzalez’s handling of the eighth inning of Game 2 — the Braves had taken a 4-0 lead behind Minor, but Alex Rodriguez hit a tying grand slam off Venters and Nick Swisher hoisted the game-winner off Cory Gearrin — was deafening on AJC.com blogs.
Over the next few days, this correspondent asked four men whose salaries are paid by the Braves if Gonzalez was in any trouble. All four of the men were surprised by the question. They felt he had the respect of his players, and they believed those players would continue to play hard for him. (The consensus of the four, just so you know, was that Gonzalez had not totally bungled that eighth inning.) And that, at the big-league level, is more than half the managerial battle.
Had they been working under a man they despised, a man given to hurling invective and furniture after losses, the Braves would have gone belly-up three months ago. They stayed the course, and — please pardon the Chipper-like mixing of metaphors — and Fredi Gonzalez steered the ship. Maybe he doesn’t bunt enough for your liking, or maybe he bunts too much, but this is a good manager who has done fine work.
ChattTownBrian
September 26th, 2012
7:14 pm
Freakin Nats!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
7:14 pm
http://blogs.ajc.com/mark-bradley-blog/2012/09/26/why-are-these-braves-playoff-bound-credit-steady-fredi/
cabravesfan
September 26th, 2012
7:23 pm
Where’d everyone go?
Tomahawk Mafia
September 26th, 2012
7:23 pm
I could do without seeing Jose Constanza bad leadoff for the Braves tonight.
cabravesfan
September 26th, 2012
7:24 pm
MARTEEEEEEEEEEN!
Brava
September 26th, 2012
7:24 pm
Marteeeeeeeeeeeeen!!!!!!!!!!
chipontheroad
September 26th, 2012
7:24 pm
Mateeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen!!!
bravesgrl4life
September 26th, 2012
7:25 pm
Late to the party, but MARTEEEN!!!!! I happen to have on my Prado t-shirt right now, too.
Venice Jim
September 26th, 2012
7:26 pm
Good start (except for my streaming video)…
Growler
September 26th, 2012
7:26 pm
Thanks for the explanation P-Town Brave ©.
Part of me would rather see them just rest up and roll the dice against Saint Louis, but no one wants it to come down to just one game.
2K91
September 26th, 2012
7:28 pm
I wonder if Francisco will be on the playoff roster?
He seems to be the forgotten man since Overbay was signed.
I don’t think he has had a plate appearance in a week and He has been struggling at the plate with the lack of consistent ABs.
Gonzales seems to prefer Overbay and Hinske as LH pinch hitters and Chipper will not sit out a playoff game.
I don’t see a roster spot for Juan.
Mark Duncan
September 26th, 2012
7:29 pm
Congratulations Braves! Thanks DOB and Carrol for all the great work you guys do for us Braves fans. I wasn’t the biggest Fredi fan but I do have to give the man credit for a vastly improved managerial job compared to 2011. Now on to bigger and better things. How about this? Start Minor in the wildcard game thus having a fresh Medlen and Hudson to open the division series. Talk about momentum. Risky sure. Kind of like Lee splitting his army at Chancellorsville but if it works…Like the late great Jerry Garcia once sang, “Since it cost alot to win and even more to lose’ This is gonna be fun. Keep on rolling! Go Braves!
Fredo
September 26th, 2012
7:30 pm
all these homers Kendrick!!!! … what the heck!
Trader Jack
September 26th, 2012
7:31 pm
Kyle Kendrick throwing BP – Nats 5 – Phils 0
ChattTownBrian
September 26th, 2012
7:35 pm
FIRE FREDI!
BFChris27
September 26th, 2012
7:36 pm
Marteeeeeeen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bravesgrl4life
September 26th, 2012
7:41 pm
Stupid Kendrick
ChattTownBrian
September 26th, 2012
7:42 pm
Maholm is like benadryl
George_George
September 26th, 2012
7:43 pm
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
5:21 pm
Efrim-
Here’s something interesting I found in the postseason schedule footer….
*** TBS will air three of the four Division Series games on Sunday, October 7th and up to three games on Wednesday, October 10th. MLB Network will air one Division Series game on both of those dates. TBS will air 18 of the 20 Division Series games.
**************************************
Does the above mean for those of us who do not have MLB network we may not be able to see some BRAVES games if they get that far?
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
7:51 pm
George, that would kind of a lousy deal, huh.
Chop-It-Up All-Star
September 26th, 2012
7:54 pm
Ha ha, Chipper calling out Buck and Kincaid…morons!!
George_George
September 26th, 2012
7:55 pm
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
7:51 pm
Yup I wonder how MLB desides what game will be on thier network.
Big Wally
September 26th, 2012
7:57 pm
Now that’s funny, HOF Chipper Jones calling Buck and Kincaid morons. Classic. They will never live that down.
Carroll Rogers
September 26th, 2012
7:57 pm
coastalbrave, go to braves.com/parking
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
7:58 pm
8 or 9 comments in 30 minutes during a game
Carroll Rogers
September 26th, 2012
7:59 pm
Actually, coastalbrave, that might not be the way to go….
from Tami
I just checked the Braves’ website. Every…single…advance…parking ticket for every single lot is SOLD OUT!!!
Could prove troublesome for us getting there since Marta is no where within our route to Turner Field. Nice.
George_George
September 26th, 2012
7:59 pm
Slow isn’t it Bat
Big Wally
September 26th, 2012
8:01 pm
Sure beats last September. At least the Braves exorcised those Ghosts. Boston is still choking.
Veer
September 26th, 2012
8:03 pm
Malholm doesn’t look sharp at all despite not allowing a run.
Lee just missed it.
Doubt the one run will hold up for long
Lane Kiffin
September 26th, 2012
8:03 pm
Hello all, Phil said he saw ace on the bradley blog so for those who are obsessed with him go pay him a visit. George is here and so am I. Tom was a vet who left because he was upset. I hope I have answered all the alter ego questions.
VJ and Cab are not the same person either.
Lane Kiffin
September 26th, 2012
8:05 pm
We must admit that the blog has slowed since the banning of some and the leaving by others.
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
8:06 pm
Sure is, George.
That’s good enough for me, Lane.
George_George
September 26th, 2012
8:06 pm
Lane Kiffin
September 26th, 2012
8:03 pm
I hope BAS did email DOB and ask him what names I have posted under.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
8:06 pm
Very Belated… Teeeen!!!!
Phils aren’t helping our division hopes, I see…
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
September 26th, 2012
8:07 pm
CONSTANZA
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
8:08 pm
Don’t get picked off at 1st Jose… or lean back to first and then steal and get thrown out at 2nd
Lane Kiffin
September 26th, 2012
8:08 pm
Now to the serious business. Let’s go into the post season on a roll. We all saw what a hot can do last year.
Lane Kiffin
September 26th, 2012
8:08 pm
hot team
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
8:09 pm
Lucky…
George_George
September 26th, 2012
8:09 pm
Wonder how nolie is doing?
Lane Kiffin
September 26th, 2012
8:09 pm
Constanza just won a woman in Marietta 2700 in marathon gas cards with that stolen base
Lane Kiffin
September 26th, 2012
8:11 pm
I don’t always agree with everything Nolie says but I do hope he is well soon and will be back. He is missed.
BFChris27
September 26th, 2012
8:11 pm
Marteeeeeeeeeeeen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Venice Jim
September 26th, 2012
8:11 pm
Georgie!!!
Brava
September 26th, 2012
8:11 pm
Marteeeeen and Georgie!!!!
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
September 26th, 2012
8:11 pm
Jose Jose-Jose Jose-Jose!
George_George
September 26th, 2012
8:12 pm
MARTEEEEN
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
8:12 pm
Atta boy, Marteen.
Go, Biff!
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
8:12 pm
Atta boy, Marteen.
Go, Biff!
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
8:13 pm
Atta boy, Jason
Come on, Chipper
Veer
September 26th, 2012
8:13 pm
Howard and Ruiz had a chance to bring the Phillies closer but they failed.
5-1 still.
George_George
September 26th, 2012
8:13 pm
Been wondering where you have been Brava
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
8:15 pm
George, I wouldn’t bother ‘OB with such nonsense. And, I’m sorry if I’m wrong.
TOBF, thanks for the link, and the paste.
Brava
September 26th, 2012
8:15 pm
WTG, Jason!
BFChris27
September 26th, 2012
8:15 pm
JHey!!!!!!!!!!!
Veer
September 26th, 2012
8:15 pm
Need this 3rd run here just a flyball by Uggla.
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
8:15 pm
Ha, the Marlins just showed Chipper calling those cats on the radio morons.
Capt.Mudd
September 26th, 2012
8:16 pm
Got to be embarrassed Dan
Capt.Mudd
September 26th, 2012
8:19 pm
Like I said…..probably a tad embarrassing Dan.
Veer
September 26th, 2012
8:19 pm
WHAT A PATHETIC AT BAT. CAN’T EVEN MAKE CONTACT?
SHORTEN THE SWING ATLEAST
NO NEED TO HIT A GRANDSLAM
UGGLA WILL BE THE REASON WE LOSE IN THE PLAYOFFS.
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
8:19 pm
Alright Heap, how about DOING something for a change!
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
8:20 pm
Come on, Heap, how about a little two outs magic
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
September 26th, 2012
8:20 pm
Was Chipper talking about the bald New York stooges?
ncbravesfan90
September 26th, 2012
8:20 pm
“Got to be embarrassed Dan”
McCann too??
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
8:20 pm
Not what I had in mind Heap. Not at all.
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
8:21 pm
Or not
Tomahawk Mafia
September 26th, 2012
8:21 pm
McCann watches two fastballs and then swings at a slider in the dirt. The Braves could have used another run in that situation.
Fredo
September 26th, 2012
8:21 pm
two big Ks for JJ
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
8:22 pm
Hope Heap isn’t on the post season roster but, you know he will be.
Couch Tater
September 26th, 2012
8:24 pm
Mac’s 1000th ML game. That’s alotta squattin’.
T-Dawg
September 26th, 2012
8:24 pm
New day…same struggles
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
8:24 pm
Bald new York stooges?
Is that Buck and Kincaid?
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
8:24 pm
Well, that sukked.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
8:24 pm
Well, that sukked.
George_George
September 26th, 2012
8:24 pm
Outta here to watch game. Have a good one. Nite all.
Lane Kiffin
September 26th, 2012
8:26 pm
have a good one george
Lane Kiffin
September 26th, 2012
8:27 pm
Let’s hope that McCann and Uggla get hot heading into post season.
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
8:29 pm
Phils just scored their 2nd run. 5-2 bot 4th.
Bronke
September 26th, 2012
8:29 pm
I know it’s bonus time but Uggla and McCann need to get on board! Get it going while the iron is hot. In the playoffs I would not Bat them back to back. McCann needs to get fitness training at season’s end. He is too good to be looking so bad!
T-Dawg
September 26th, 2012
8:31 pm
Quickest automatic outs I have ever seen
phil
September 26th, 2012
8:31 pm
Not likely….
phil
September 26th, 2012
8:34 pm
Mac is a physical wreck…..yet some here persist in overt denial of his largesse while others have grudgingly acknowledged its time to drop a few.
phil
September 26th, 2012
8:36 pm
The Legend…..
Capt.Mudd
September 26th, 2012
8:36 pm
In the wake of all the celebrating last night….most would assume that remaining home and such would produce some elevated moods among the roster……all this and, there is but one characteristic they can’t seem to shake…..bases loaded, one out…..and, as fast as you can say kudos; inning over and still one measly run. And, above all…..this ain’t no playoff team we’re playing.
cabravesfan
September 26th, 2012
8:37 pm
While others continue to be obsessed with something of which they know nothing about. Nobody has ever denied that Mac is not a small man, but that by no means equals overweight.
phil
September 26th, 2012
8:37 pm
The Legend….again.
Venice Jim
September 26th, 2012
8:37 pm
Hard to figure out why McFann avoids this place…
phil
September 26th, 2012
8:38 pm
Lol at Cab…..
It is what it is…..
cabravesfan
September 26th, 2012
8:39 pm
But I am not about to get into yet another pointless discussion about it so that’s all I will say
cabravesfan
September 26th, 2012
8:40 pm
Not sure why you find that funny, but whatever.
phil
September 26th, 2012
8:42 pm
Cab and VJ wage endless war on the mere mention of Mac’s bulging waistline….
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
8:42 pm
‘Teen likes dirt! ha ha
phil
September 26th, 2012
8:43 pm
It’s funny because you deny the obvious….
The man is fat.
Doesn’t mean i don’t still love the guy. But I do wish he wasn’t having an awful year.
cabravesfan
September 26th, 2012
8:43 pm
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
8:45 pm
Two bad calls on Freddie.
ncbravesfan90
September 26th, 2012
8:45 pm
Home plate umpire know that its irrelevant where the catcher catches the ball?? I mean geez!
Venice Jim
September 26th, 2012
8:47 pm
No, we are both amazed at your obsession – you make George’s obsession with DOB’s work schedule seem like a minor quirk…
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
8:47 pm
“Cab and VJ wage endless war”
You bring it up, for the 1152nd time, and they’re the ones at fault?
T-Dawg
September 26th, 2012
8:47 pm
I disagree with the weight being the issue for Mac. Bat speed….poor mechanics…injuries..too heavy of a bat ( remember when Mac when to a lighter Ash bat and started crushing the ball?) but its not his weight.
phil
September 26th, 2012
8:48 pm
An awful lot….
I would guess 230.
But i’m not looking to get into the whole fat mac thing again either.
Venice Jim
September 26th, 2012
8:49 pm
Where does one get a law degree in figuring out the weight of men in loose fitting clothing?
phil
September 26th, 2012
8:50 pm
You guys are overreacting….
Never mind.
cabravesfan
September 26th, 2012
8:50 pm
So someone that is 6′3″ and 230 is fat?
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
8:51 pm
Re: McFann
Someone needs to explain to her. You don’t gather up all your Heap bobbleheads and run off to the corner to pout because your guy is slumping big time.
C’mon now Fanny!
Capt.Mudd
September 26th, 2012
8:51 pm
@Phil…….I am asking, requesting……please…..I would like VJ and Cab to stay on–if you know they are uncomfortable with that particular topic….perhaps you could find other topics and, don’t get me wrong…..you have the right to characterize a player as overweight and let it go. I think some get upset because [using this example] it seems to be overkill, Phil
Veer
September 26th, 2012
8:52 pm
Malholm should try and go the distance tonight as with Hanson pitching tomorrow we might need bullpen up in the 3rd inning.
cabravesfan
September 26th, 2012
8:53 pm
Mixxo-
McFann has found a new home where everything that is wrong with the world is not blamed on Mac
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
8:54 pm
cabravesfan -
Ah I see. Tell her I said hi and best of luck to her.
phil
September 26th, 2012
8:55 pm
Yeah, Cab, they are.
I’m 6′ 3″ and once weighed 230 and was waaaaay too heavy. Down to 200, where i should be. It takes hard ass work to keep it off.
Loose fitting clothing! Lol. That’s it!
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
8:56 pm
Stop the presses !!!!
T-Dawg
September 26th, 2012
8:57 pm
Fatty!!!! I kid, of course!
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
8:57 pm
Atta boy, Heap
Come on, Simmons
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
8:57 pm
“McFann has found a new home where everything that is wrong with the world is not blamed on Mac”
Wuss. If I can endure, she can. She’s needed, here. The innocence, the loyalty, the holy-hell that is screen-printing during an Atlanta summer… Needed.
Tomahawk Mafia
September 26th, 2012
8:58 pm
Needed a better at bat with Simmons at the plate.
Veer
September 26th, 2012
8:59 pm
You have to pinch hit for Malholm and try and get that 3rd run in.
I don’t agree with this move. Its the 7th inning anyways.
We need to PINCH HIT HERE
phil
September 26th, 2012
8:59 pm
I can be a tad sensitive sometimes but you guys are taking the cake….
Veer
September 26th, 2012
8:59 pm
1 RUN offensively is more important than sending a tired malholm in the 7th inning
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
9:00 pm
We’ll take it!
cabravesfan
September 26th, 2012
9:00 pm
That’ll work…
T-Dawg
September 26th, 2012
9:00 pm
Get sum
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
9:00 pm
Has Ozzie given up? Why is Johnson still out there?
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
9:01 pm
“where i should be”
You’re also negative, and far worse, repetitive. I’m both, and a drunk. Mac is 15 lbs too many. It is what it is. If he was slimmer, he’d've been an OFer. That’s the game. If I can forgive your faults, might you forgive his? Or at least shut up about ‘em?
T-Dawg
September 26th, 2012
9:02 pm
Who said Dan Uggla was a failure this year? The dude is doing everything. Again, I kid.
bravesgrl4life
September 26th, 2012
9:02 pm
cab, message me and let me know where to find McFann. I miss her.
Capt.Mudd
September 26th, 2012
9:02 pm
I would like to see McFann return to her rightful ‘blog’ home–we miss her and wish her well.
chipontheroad
September 26th, 2012
9:02 pm
ugglaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa b mc swiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiift
Venice Jim
September 26th, 2012
9:02 pm
Not sensitive in the slightest – just amazed at how you go on and on with your never-ending analysis…
Venice Jim
September 26th, 2012
9:04 pm
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
Wish McCann would have been at 3B. He would have never stopped telling Ross and the others about how he ’stole home”
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
9:04 pm
Hang tough Jose!
Veer
September 26th, 2012
9:04 pm
Poor Hinske sitting with a bat in the bench. Wish someone would give hima chance to hit
phil
September 26th, 2012
9:05 pm
Well, Steve, if you haven’t noticed, everyone here is repetitive much of the time about something.
And thanks, but i’ll be whatever I choose to be.
cabravesfan
September 26th, 2012
9:05 pm
bravesgrl4life-
I messaged McFann- will get you two connected
Tomahawk Mafia
September 26th, 2012
9:05 pm
At least they scored a run even though they continue to struggle to hit with runners in scoring position.
TBbravesfan
September 26th, 2012
9:05 pm
Is McFann OK?
phil
September 26th, 2012
9:06 pm
VJ – here you go again….can’t help but be an ass?
Capt.Mudd
September 26th, 2012
9:07 pm
@Efrim……..”Has Ozzie given up?”
Well, not on his ‘Johnson,’ Bat.
Fols
September 26th, 2012
9:07 pm
Cab! Hey long time no see!
cabravesfan
September 26th, 2012
9:08 pm
bravesgrl4life-
Check you DM
Venice Jim
September 26th, 2012
9:10 pm
Mr Pot – meet Mr Kettle…
T-Dawg
September 26th, 2012
9:11 pm
Veer
September 26th, 2012
9:04 pm
Poor Hinske sitting with a bat in the bench. Wish someone would give hima chance to hit
Me too. I can’t wait for the Cleveland Indians to give him that chance.
phil
September 26th, 2012
9:11 pm
Don’t necessarily disagree….
Fols
September 26th, 2012
9:12 pm
Paul is dealing it tonight….
Fols
September 26th, 2012
9:12 pm
Oops! I jinxed him…
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
9:12 pm
Good job Paul!
Tomahawk Mafia
September 26th, 2012
9:13 pm
I would rather see Maholm continue than see Durbin enter the game.
Fols
September 26th, 2012
9:14 pm
Come on…bullpen? I only have 33 minutes left on my laptop battery and two dogs sleeping on my legs….don’t make me get up, end this quickly!
bravesgrl4life
September 26th, 2012
9:15 pm
Not seeing anything, CAB
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
9:16 pm
“Mr Pot – meet Mr Kettle…”
“Don’t necessarily disagree….”
That’s why I still love you both. Nutshell, right there.
Tomahawk Mafia
September 26th, 2012
9:16 pm
Durbin worked out though.
Lane Kiffin
September 26th, 2012
9:17 pm
A lot of bloggers have left or been banished. It is a shame.
cabravesfan
September 26th, 2012
9:19 pm
bravesgrl4life-
On your twitter
Veer
September 26th, 2012
9:19 pm
2 MORE RUNS IS ALL PHILLIES NEED WITH 7 OUTS LEFT
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
9:20 pm
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
Paul Maholm’s line: 6.2 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 6 K, 1 WP, 104 pitches (72 for strikes). #Braves up 3-0, bottom 7
Pretty good. Nice to see a good start out of him.
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
9:20 pm
Meds’ dance move….he’s better than me.
Carroll Rogers
September 26th, 2012
9:21 pm
Line on #Braves Maholm: 6 2/3 shutout innings, five hits, no walks, six strikeouts. 104 pitches (72 strikes)
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
9:21 pm
People have been bashing Heap all to hell and gone the entire time I’ve been here, over fours years worth of games. And McFann would go toe to toe with them all, I loved that.
People used non stop bash the hell out of Chipper, too. Haven’t seen nearly as much of that the last two years.
Fols
September 26th, 2012
9:21 pm
Hey…I want to add you guys to twitter? What the hell….
T-Dawg
September 26th, 2012
9:22 pm
If the Nats lose this one and the Braves hang on to win……PRESSURE!
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
9:26 pm
Let’s go DURBIN
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
9:28 pm
Dang, and I only asked for five shut-out innings!
phil
September 26th, 2012
9:30 pm
Any Trey sightings of late?
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
9:30 pm
Blogging is so old school. So…….me! Heh!
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
9:31 pm
Trey has been buried in his work. Heh!
Veer
September 26th, 2012
9:31 pm
Need Howard to come up big for the Phillies. Need a 2 run jack
keyLargo
September 26th, 2012
9:33 pm
Tyller Clippard is in for the gNats. Time for the Phils to make their move.
phil
September 26th, 2012
9:33 pm
Nats have it all wrapped up….
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
9:33 pm
Damn, rich.
Gustopher
September 26th, 2012
9:33 pm
Carroll is Ben Sheets done for the year?
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
9:34 pm
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A3ws1mKCAAAA_h8.jpg
Nats better watch out, might need to bring back those shirts!
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
September 26th, 2012
9:34 pm
TBbravesfan Is McFann OK?
Yes. Thanks for asking!…:)
keyLargo
September 26th, 2012
9:35 pm
Sheets is supposed to be available in relief.
Veer
September 26th, 2012
9:36 pm
HOWARD????????
abeeeewright
September 26th, 2012
9:37 pm
Tyler “Gas Can” Clippard
Durbin has passed the torch.
phil
September 26th, 2012
9:38 pm
McFann, come on back here…..
You’re killing these folks.
I’ll stop my role in the fat mac stuff if it’ll help.
Even though he just struck out and hurt himself yet again possibly.
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
9:38 pm
Howard K’s….one down.
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
9:38 pm
Hey, McFann
Were your ears burning?
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
9:39 pm
“Trey has been buried in his work.”
I can laugh at this right? Or, rather, I laughed at this.
ncbravesfan90
September 26th, 2012
9:39 pm
Why couldn’t Howard just act like there was a Braves pitcher on the mound that at bat? Dang
phil
September 26th, 2012
9:39 pm
Did Howard mash one?
bravesgrl4life
September 26th, 2012
9:39 pm
cab, call me twitter dumb, but I don’t see a DM on there, either.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
September 26th, 2012
9:39 pm
Bat M.—
A little bit…;)
Thanks, phil…
cabravesfan
September 26th, 2012
9:40 pm
“Trey has been buried in his work.”
I can laugh at this right? Or, rather, I laughed at this.
You probably shouldn’t laugh at that, but it was funny. Wrong, but funny
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
9:41 pm
WP…Utley to third….one down.
phil
September 26th, 2012
9:41 pm
Guess not…
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
9:41 pm
“hurt himself yet again possibly.”
Yes. The timing of that was, admittedly, favorablet o you. I’ll deny this in the future, though.
David from Athens, AL
September 26th, 2012
9:41 pm
McFann you are missed ….
cabravesfan
September 26th, 2012
9:41 pm
bravesgrl4life-
there should be a spoke in the right corner with an arrow that will show a drop down menu- that will take you to your direct messages
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
9:42 pm
I don’t get it.
Trey’s a grave digger??
phil
September 26th, 2012
9:42 pm
Kimbrel….
Too young to be much good.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
September 26th, 2012
9:43 pm
Thanks, David.
cabravesfan
September 26th, 2012
9:44 pm
Mixxo-
No, Trey is in the military and handles service funerals.
Disgusted
September 26th, 2012
9:44 pm
Brian is gonna have to get that shoulder fixed in the off season — by any means necessary.
He has tried but it has to be killing him – even if he has to miss a little of the early part of the yr just get it fixed and be the player he was — Or close to it anyway.
For a couple more games we have to be pretend Phillie fans — just only when we need them.
We are close to elimiating STL too and that is good.
phil
September 26th, 2012
9:44 pm
Biting through tongue…..
bravesgrl4life
September 26th, 2012
9:45 pm
Got it, cab! Thanks!
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
9:45 pm
cabravesfan@ 9:41
Thanks for that tip. I’ve had a Twitter acct. for about six mos. now….have yet to make a tweet.
Disgusted
September 26th, 2012
9:45 pm
I don’t like this Solano guy — he is a pain in the tail.
Just get it done Kimbrell — you can do it. We want that 90th W.
keyLargo
September 26th, 2012
9:46 pm
5 – 4 gNats. Phils still up
chipontheroad
September 26th, 2012
9:46 pm
5-4 2 out man on 1st
Disgusted
September 26th, 2012
9:47 pm
And the Kimmer gets two SO. One more to go.
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
9:47 pm
The Phightins are fightin’ !
First & third….2 outs.
Capt.Mudd
September 26th, 2012
9:47 pm
Za”Last”quez
cabravesfan
September 26th, 2012
9:47 pm
Glad I could help, y’all
chipontheroad
September 26th, 2012
9:47 pm
on the corners for Rollins
keyLargo
September 26th, 2012
9:48 pm
Another single. 1 & 3 – 2 outs.
chipontheroad
September 26th, 2012
9:49 pm
fransden sorrt
BFChris27
September 26th, 2012
9:49 pm
Braves WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
9:49 pm
Great game. Let’s go Phillies!!!!
Brava
September 26th, 2012
9:49 pm
Great game!
chipontheroad
September 26th, 2012
9:49 pm
y
phil
September 26th, 2012
9:49 pm
4 strikeouts….
Good grief.
And nice crowd shot of Mixxo!
Tomahawk Mafia
September 26th, 2012
9:50 pm
Four strike outs in the same inning is pretty cool.
uga-brave
September 26th, 2012
9:50 pm
29 out shutout. very rare.
TBbravesfan
September 26th, 2012
9:50 pm
Good to here from you McFann. You ol country girl.
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
9:51 pm
“McFann you are missed”
I post the best screen-printing line in the history of screen-printing lines (in my unbiased opinion), and this is what gets a thank you? Wuss (lovingly).
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
9:51 pm
So, if I’ve got it right, the Cards lose, we clinch the #1 spot, right? Currently they trail 2-0
phil
September 26th, 2012
9:51 pm
Who was it that would say BARVES WIN!?
They just did it again….
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
9:51 pm
phil -
You see me chief?
That’s cool.
I get around!
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
9:52 pm
“29 out shutout.”
Smoltz Recognition Night. You didn’t know?
chipontheroad
September 26th, 2012
9:52 pm
Ph
Disgusted
September 26th, 2012
9:52 pm
Win Number 90 — and no way we will not be the top WC team, so that is good.
I think I can get over last September now — working on it anyway. Win the WC game and I think I can get over it for good.
I should have enjoyed this team more — its really been a great run with a good bunch of guys.
And PM will be back I am sure.
phil
September 26th, 2012
9:53 pm
29 out shutout?
Did we goof two ks tonight?
Might be a first, if so.
keyLargo
September 26th, 2012
9:53 pm
End of 8th gnats 5 – 4.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
9:53 pm
Wrong? I thought it funny as h***.
Oh, and we won. MAHOLM pitched shutout ball just as i thought he would this a.m., but six plus, not five.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
9:54 pm
PIRATES eliminated with the loss tonight?
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
9:54 pm
You don’t have any messages yet.
Direct messages are 140 characters, private, and can be sent to any user who follows you on Twitter.
Capt.Mudd
September 26th, 2012
9:54 pm
@McFann….Hi, how you doing? Glad to see your post tonight.
DawgNole
September 26th, 2012
9:54 pm
Significant step forward with this victory tonight. Shows they can come back and bear down even after that huge emotional win just 24 hours ago. That’s what championship teams do. Hopefully it’s a sign of things to come this postseason.
ChattTownBrian
September 26th, 2012
9:55 pm
Kimbrel’s command of all his pitches and being a power pitcher is unreal. Just a perfect closer. I can’t think of a flaw. Don’t forget how lucky we are to have him.
Disgusted
September 26th, 2012
9:56 pm
Because they are going to finish ahead of the Cards now, the playoff clincher seems more real.
And a win over them in the WC game will be the sweet revenge.
I almost would be happy to pass on the division cause I want the Cards in the WC game in Turnerr Field. I won’t complain about the division if they find a way to get it, but a WC W vs the Cards and a long postseason run (hope WS champ) is the story that I can take for a lifetime.
DawgNole
September 26th, 2012
9:57 pm
phil
September 26th, 2012
9:51 pm
Who was it that would say BARVES WIN!?
They just did it again….
___________________
Better than BARFS WIN!
phil
September 26th, 2012
9:57 pm
I can think of a flaw, but if we win on the 5th and kimbrel has a role in it, that flaw will be gone.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
9:57 pm
CARDS losing?
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
9:57 pm
PIRATES eliminated with the loss tonight?
Yessir!
Fredo
September 26th, 2012
9:57 pm
the one game wildcard playoff can make you a bit nervous but when you look and see the Stros 2 hitting the Cards ….. you can kinda feel a little better about it
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
9:58 pm
“You don’t have any messages yet.”
LOL, Mix. Good sad face. I’m firmly this side of the no-smiley fence, but that was strong, brother.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
9:59 pm
If the CARDS lose, they’re seven back with seven to play.
phil
September 26th, 2012
9:59 pm
Good night all…..
Disgusted
September 26th, 2012
10:00 pm
You have that right CTB on the 9:55 post.
He was supposed to have control issues but he worked on them in a hurry cause he has not really had bad controll issues at the MLB level.
He had a little slump in his rookie yr but even the best veteran closers of all time would be more than glad to take any of Kimbrel’s first 2 yrs.
George_George
September 26th, 2012
10:00 pm
Very good win, no letdown from last night. Now if PHILLS can do something in 9th.
M.V.P.Heyward
September 26th, 2012
10:01 pm
No.1 wild card MAGIC # is down to 1.
With a cardinals’ loss, The braves will host the second wild card team.
Disgusted
September 26th, 2012
10:01 pm
Poor Pirate fans — looks like the streak is going to continue.
If I were a Pirate fan I’d say hey, we are not going to the postseason so why not keep the streak till we have a real signifigant year and get to post season.
Fredo
September 26th, 2012
10:02 pm
“If the CARDS lose, they’re seven back with seven to play”
actually the Cards are off tomorrow, after today they only have 6 more games
George_George
September 26th, 2012
10:03 pm
Good to have McFann and Brava back on blog. Good night all.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
10:03 pm
So go Pirates and Astros!!! Maybe both teams will give us a little more help than they did last year.
cabravesfan
September 26th, 2012
10:05 pm
Mixxo-
I can’t send you a message if I don’t know your name!
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
10:07 pm
Man I wan the DODGERS and BREWERS breathing down ST. LOUIS’ collectives when they play the NATS. Looking for a CARDS sweep while we finish a 12-0 run through the FISH and METS. 8-0 ho, ho, ho!. Makes me feel like Christmas.
Brava
September 26th, 2012
10:10 pm
Good night, George.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
September 26th, 2012
10:10 pm
Thanks, y’all…MAYBE I won’t be such a stranger in the future…we shall see.
BAS I post the best screen-printing line in the history of screen-printing lines (in my unbiased opinion), and this is what gets a thank you? Wuss (lovingly).
I’m sorry!! I meant to acknowledge that one…was funny!…
Fredo
September 26th, 2012
10:13 pm
… ‘tupid phillie
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
10:14 pm
7-4 Nats now… Werth singles up the middle… just out of the reach of Rollins
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
10:14 pm
NATS just plated two 7-4 top of the ninth two out
MiaBchBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
10:16 pm
The Braves’ September pitching has been EXCELLENT! But as the Orioles slug 6 dingers tonight, I sit here and wish we had some of that.
I know that it was Josh Johnson, but four hits, 15 dingers, and a sub-.234 team BA.
Damned fillies!!! |:-(
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
10:16 pm
Are you leaving us for twitter McFANN?
Fredo
September 26th, 2012
10:16 pm
btw phillies, your ballpark sounds like crap when most of the fans are booing the batter instead of cheering for the K
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
10:17 pm
98.6 maintain
MiaBchBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
10:18 pm
Let’s shoot for a gNats Collapse in the bottom of the ninth!!!
Half Empty
September 26th, 2012
10:18 pm
But as the Orioles slug 6 dingers tonight, I sit here and wish we had some of that Miami
we could have had, one was McLouth who is pounding it in Baltimore
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
10:19 pm
NATE didn’t fit in here.
MiaBchBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
10:20 pm
Damned fillies, part 2!!!
Fredo
September 26th, 2012
10:20 pm
8-4 … i’m done. Nats Magic # will be 4, Philly/Halladay better win tomorrow (and you too Hanson …..)
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
10:20 pm
8-4 Nats
HooRah
September 26th, 2012
10:20 pm
I would not blame McFann if she left, Mac has taken a terrible and undeserved pounding here for years. The obsessives who think that 15 or so pounds in a catcher is a big thing, are just plain idiopts.
Brave4life-1995 All over again
September 26th, 2012
10:21 pm
hit the 90 mark today
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
10:24 pm
WILTON LOPEZ to the rescue. Two out runners at the corners, top of the 8tyh.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
10:25 pm
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
Eric O’Flaherty has now made 27 consecutive scoreless appearances since July 15th. #Braves
Boss.
HooRah
September 26th, 2012
10:25 pm
Kimbrel hit 99 a couple of times tonight, he really looked loose out there
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
10:26 pm
And WILTON comes thru. Bottom of the 8th HOUSTON at bat. 2-0
MiaBchBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
10:27 pm
I’d rather have 8 Paul Janish’s in a lineup than 1 nate mclouth hitting 8th.
keyLargo
September 26th, 2012
10:28 pm
+++The Pirates and the KC Royals have been hit the hardest with the financial way MLB has changed financially. Some of our greatest moments were vs. Pirates and Greorge Brett carried the Royals to over .500 for years.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
10:28 pm
Braves4life:
“……..hit the 90 mark today…..”
On Sept 26th! It really is the HOTLANTA! Heh!
MiaBchBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
10:30 pm
The fillies sukkk!!!
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
10:30 pm
K.C. willing to pick my grandson in the top three rounds if he wants to go pro. That’s what they say at least.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
10:31 pm
Nats drop magic number to 4…. Let’s go Astros now!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
10:32 pm
Wow, congrats to him Ghost!
bravesgrl4life
September 26th, 2012
10:32 pm
Well, other than the Phillies choking, it was a good night for Braves fans. Nytol.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
10:32 pm
Top of the ninth, 2-0 ‘STROHS pack.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
10:34 pm
ROBF:
Talks cheap. We’ll see when the time comes. Besides the BRAVES are still interested too.
Brave4life-1995 All over again
September 26th, 2012
10:36 pm
Does it really matter if the Cardinals win or lose>
SHouldnt we only be concerned with the Nationals as of right now,
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
10:37 pm
Astros win.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
10:37 pm
CARDS lose
Half Empty
September 26th, 2012
10:37 pm
what makes you think McLouth is hitting 8th? He is leading off, has 10 stolen bases in 11 tries and has several game winning hits lately.
He was hurt most of the time he was here. I see no reason why he wouldn’t go back to being a 750 hitting outfielder with some steals
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
10:39 pm
The closer the CARDS are to losing rthe second wild-card, the more pressure there is on them to sweep the NATS in their next series…see?
HooRah
September 26th, 2012
10:42 pm
I think the Cards have it pretty much wrapped up. the other teams are probably going to lose a few games and that is all it takes at this point
cricket
September 26th, 2012
10:43 pm
miami drama queens
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/09/26/3021165/heath-bell-becomes-uncomfortable.html
MiaBchBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
10:46 pm
The Pirates were perennial contenders during the 70’s and 80’s. From birth, the Royals were always contending during the 70’s and 80’s. Cheap/incompetent ownership, mediocre player development, and cities that don’t scream “glam” to the modern FA ballplayer have decimated otherwise loyal fan bases.
Piteous.
HooRah
September 26th, 2012
10:48 pm
Fox Fla/Marlins station covered that quite a bit last night’s broadcast, cricket.
Bell claimed that Ozzie wouldn’t tell him to his face what he thought.
I think that is pretty unlikely considering Ozzie’s history
JC Brave
September 26th, 2012
10:50 pm
90 Wins!!!
MiaBchBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
10:57 pm
I truly did not think this team could win 90 games this year. Truly remarkable.
Half Empty
September 26th, 2012
10:59 pm
Maholm was a little shaky to start but settled in and pitched a pretty fine game even if it was against a Stanton-less Fish team. Hope he can get back what he had earlier in Chicago.
Half Empty
September 26th, 2012
11:01 pm
I remember a lot of us thought 85-87 or so wins this spring. Doing so much better must be all Fredi’s great managing .
MiaBchBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
11:09 pm
Certainly better bullpen management – not optimal – and much better starting pitching has made the diff. The hitting is either pretty much the same, or worse than last September.
Half Empty
September 26th, 2012
11:11 pm
we need a hitter without question.
Carroll Rogers
September 26th, 2012
11:16 pm
postgame quotes are up
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/09/26/braves-postgame-quotes-after-wednesdays-win-vs-marlins/
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
11:23 pm
The hitting is either pretty much the same, or worse than last September.
About the same. Last year the Braves hit .235/.300/.357/.657 in Sept, this year they’re hitting .234/.306/.343/.649
Our pitching has been much improved, holding hitters to a .210 avg. compared to .260 last September
Mitchell
September 26th, 2012
11:23 pm
I cannot stand the fact that the first four games of the season are all that separate the Braves from first place in their division.
More than that, I hate the fact that if you possess any of the most basic, fundamental powers of perception you knew without a doubt those losses would set the Braves back in September.
The Nationals have every reason to make division winner T-shirts already.
They’ve been the baseball equivalent of a basket of blind puppies for decades yet have somehow become the gold standard for excellence in the span of a season.
They found what it takes to be great.
The Braves are no worse or better than anyone expected.
They deserved to celebrate last night, they win again tonight but the division talk can stop.
Too little too late.
It’s over. They lost. To the Nationals.
Four games.
Tommy Hanson getting a start might as well be the white flag.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
11:26 pm
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
fun times for free-agent starters. #cubs say theyre in market. also kc, minn, bos, lad, laa, nyy, maybe mil, chiw, atl, det
Not good news as the Braves possibly pursue a SP
MikeInFl
September 26th, 2012
11:31 pm
Tommy Hanson getting a start might as well be the white flag.
Nah, he’ll probably be fine for 5 (about 94 pitches), and then Fredi will go get him first time a runner gets on base. (that’s another thing Fredi has gotten smart about it… when Tommy reaches the 5th, put the short leash on him)
Braveone
September 26th, 2012
11:36 pm
From the previous blog which had 1,253 comments, TheOnlyBravesFan led the way with 101 posts. There were 156 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:
Rank Poster Frequency
1 TheOnlyBravesFan 101
2 phil 53
3 P-Town Brave © 48
4 Jeff R 43
5 usnavyvolfaninva 41
6 Brian from SC 38
7 ncscoots 36
8 Efrim 33
9 Venice Jim 33
10 Mitchell 29
11 SNEAKY PETE 29
12 Bat Masterson 25
13 Half Empty 25
14 cabravesfan 23
15 George_George 22
16 Bay Area Steve 20
17 MFin04 18
18 UKUGA 18
19 Tomahawk Mafia 17
20 Mixxo 16
21 Veer 16
22 Fols 15
23 Murph 15
24 bravesgrl4life 15
25 DAP 14
Lou
September 26th, 2012
11:36 pm
Dearest Carroll, First venture back in about 3 weeks–thanks to Nolie’s sound advice—-and here I’m confronted by an article stating that some kind of an assessment can be made about a MLB team based upon a game against a NOW minor league team playing without Stanton, Ramirez, Morrison, Bonafacio, Sanchez, Infante and probably a few more I have forgotten. To quote the police officer in “Bridesmaids” when our heroine calls her blank buddy to pick her up after accident–C’mon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nolie, Once again thanks for the wakeup call. I mean it.Hpe this doesn’t requalify me as an agent provacateur. I just think it was one of the most inane articles I’ve ever read. Medlen is exceptional enough, do not judge ANYTHING based upon a game or a series against the Miami Marlins of Jeffrey Loria and his stepson, inimitable Magic Midget, David Samson. Back in a week.
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
11:37 pm
“1 TheOnlyBravesFan 101″
Who woulda thought? At least we have balance.
Mitchell
September 26th, 2012
11:37 pm
Call me a hater. I don’t care.
I got my playoff ticket. If they win, I’ll buy another.
That said, I refuse to pin my hopes of a division title on Juan Pierre’s defensive incompetence and the washed-up Phillies to do what the Braves themselves should have done.
90 wins. Really good.
Being beaten out by the Washington Nationals.
Really bad.
Capt.Mudd
September 26th, 2012
11:39 pm
Maholm…..the guy doesn’t give much color in his commentary; I guess he’s still learning the ‘folksy, southern’ way.
I wish Chipper would refrain from letting a couple radio talk show clods get him in a twist…they say/do like they do for the reaction and after-show talk…..advertising pays their bills and that stupid talk just fills the air between commercial spots.
The Bourn thumb is now pushing electronic game buttons and will be appropriately ’stretched’ by first pitch tomorrow.
During the Post-Game Show, Fredi appeared ‘relieved’ or perhaps the Milk of Magnesia hit a home run, regardless Fredi never addressed the ongoing problem his team has leaving base runners hanging….and, to my knowledge, no member of the media asked about it……you can be assured this problematic component of our team will surface during the playoff engagements.
Carroll Rogers
September 26th, 2012
11:52 pm
final gamer is up! ….Braves clinched home field in a potential wild card game Oct. 5, which I’m sure you know by now.
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/09/26/braves-continue-roll-vs-marlins/
JC Brave
September 26th, 2012
11:55 pm
nolie not in the top 25?
Is he OK?
Sopheee
September 26th, 2012
11:58 pm
Thanks, Carroll!
JC – nolie’s been in the hospital with an infection in his leg.
JC Brave
September 27th, 2012
12:02 am
Aw, so sad to know that. I hope he gets better soon so he can enjoy all of this a bit more comfortably!
Brava
September 27th, 2012
12:09 am
Capt., I think the RISP problem could be somewhat alleviated by Fredi separating Uggla and McCann in the lineup. Just my humble opinion based on observation.
John Leonard
September 27th, 2012
12:23 am
The pitching has been outstanding(Not the dart throwing.)but 4 hits will probably not be enough in the playoffs.
GTI in Brooklyn
September 27th, 2012
12:30 am
If the Bravos go 7-0 to finish out, we’ll need the Nats to go 3-4 to finish 162 in a tie.
It’s useful that the Cards lost and the Dodgers & Brewers both won tonight, because that means the Cards will still be playing with urgency throughout the weekend. Rooting for the Cards to win every night here out, though, because they are the team I’d most like to see the Braves face in that WC game.
John Leonard
September 27th, 2012
12:33 am
GTI: Why is that? I’m scared of them all.
Capt.Mudd
September 27th, 2012
12:33 am
@Brava……I think they could still encourage each other with more air between them so, go ahead Fredi–act now before the big single game W/C.
Capt.Mudd
September 27th, 2012
12:37 am
Hello–in advance to Ward…..He should be along soon? Give us your inner-most perceptive thoughts Ward
Goonight!
Half Empty
September 27th, 2012
12:38 am
I don’t like to see those two back to back either,
Even though Dan has been one of our better hitters in September
Half Empty
September 27th, 2012
12:39 am
I’m not sure I would want to Braves to win out. I think I’d just as soon see them lose a game before the wildcard playoff
John Leonard
September 27th, 2012
12:41 am
When Hanson pitch’s you might get your wish.
John Leonard
September 27th, 2012
12:43 am
All year long they have been streaky,and I’m afraid of them going the other way.
Venice Jim
September 27th, 2012
12:43 am
I will throw in this clip of Andy before I head off – I have been a fan for close to 50 years…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flm4xcOyiCo
Half Empty
September 27th, 2012
12:48 am
I see that “lou” is just as full of it as usual
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
12:49 am
“I’m afraid of them going the other way.”
We all are, John. Even the rosiest-rose-rose, optimist-of-all-optimists is. They’re an imperfect team. Hope is all we have. Luckily for us, the other squads ain’t perfect either.
And, if anyone still believes in a Hanson start, get that cat some help. Stat.
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
12:50 am
I don’t know if any of y’all’ve ever had to move. I kinda doubt it; I’m unique like that.
Still: moving blows.
Venice Jim
September 27th, 2012
12:51 am
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
#Nationals 3B coach Bo Porter is the new #Astros manager, sources tell me and @jonmorosi. News conference at 10 a.m. CT tomorrow.
Half Empty
September 27th, 2012
12:52 am
I thought Hanson is starting today?
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
1:06 am
“today?”
Today? Damn you, and your today. There is drinking to be done, sir, and it happens tonight. I kindly request you refrain from referencing any sort of reality. Thank you.
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
1:09 am
Bo Porter has no skills. I base this, entirely, on the fact that his name consists of Bo and Porter. (And whatever latent racism I’m unaware of.)
(It occurs to me that Mel Gibson played one bad-assed Porter in some movie long ago. I choose to ignore that.)
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
1:18 am
“I base this, entirely”
You know, I take that back. I think it might be the helmet. I mean, logically, the helmet is a no-brainer. Anyone who watched Ron Gant yank knows that. But, still, these coaches lose something. TP as hitting coach: managerial candidate. TP in a helmet: not so mu… Oh, wait. It’s required. Well, still. There’s a point here. I’m not sayin’ I nkow what it is. But, a point. And, further, if you;re still reading, why is that? Maybe you need a helmet…
Half Empty
September 27th, 2012
1:21 am
Payback is a 1999 American crime thriller directed by Brian Helgeland and starring Mel Gibson. The film shares the same source material as the 1967 noir-classic Point Blank, directed by John Boorman and starring Lee Marvin; both are based on the book The Hunter, written by Donald E. Westlake under the pseudonym of Richard Stark. Westlake wrote a number of hardboiled novels with Porter and some other “heroes”
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
1:25 am
“Payback is a 1999 American crime thriller”
I want to give you respect. I truly do. (And, I like that movie more than anybody really should.) But, you post six lines and don’t mention the girl with the dog? C’mon… That might be the its only redeeming feature. (Exaggeration. ‘Cause I don’t remember her.)
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
1:28 am
I may not know nolie, but I know nolie. Payback is an all-timer with my guy. Guar. An. Teed. (And, even if it’s not, it is with me, and I’m all that really counts.)
Get well, brother.
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
1:31 am
Lemme go put more crap in another box.
What is this place good for, if not to distract folks from responsibility?
And, I don’t know about y’all’s interaction with the craigslist folk, but…
Half Empty
September 27th, 2012
1:31 am
Westlake also wrote a series of tongue in cheek caper/heist movies with John Dortmunder as the main character, a talented heist planner with a woebegone crew of cronies and just plain bad luck. Very different feel than gritty crime stories. One of my favorite authors, so there.
I liked the Lee Marvin movie version better, but then I am a big Marvin fan.
I wish there were some way I could ensure that you would respect me in the morning.
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
1:31 am
Fire DOB.
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
1:35 am
“I could ensure that you would respect me”
Thanks for humoring me. I’d no idea Payback was off a novel. (I suppose I should’ve; most are.) I’ll take a peek at your names.
I’m afraid I haven’t read much since my Grisham/Clancy/Crichton days. I blame ‘OB. It can’t be ’cause I’m lazy, and TV watches like crack. No. Way.
John Leonard
September 27th, 2012
1:37 am
BAS: Did’nt you hear? thats why CR. is in lol.
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
1:39 am
Fire Homer. (Homer, The Abandoner.)
Rehire DOB.
And, as a procrastinate: DerekZ, you’re frickin’ soft, man. The DP2C was nonsensical, from the start. Let’s be clear. But, you owned it. And, in a place where the bar is set so low, even I’m allowed, you left us. C’mon, man (best Shannon Sharpe impersonation). It’s October, sir. Double Pits us. Nightly. All hands on deck, brother.
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
1:40 am
“Did’nt you hear?”
Distracted. Really hoping to hear about the girl with the dog.
John Leonard
September 27th, 2012
1:43 am
To hey with the dog,lets hear about the girl.
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
1:47 am
JL, looked ‘er up, ’cause of you. Now I’ mashamed. It’s Maria Bello. My girl. How did I forget? I blame you. Though, I do have ‘History of Violence’ on disc. That seems like a valid reason to stop cramming worthless crap in boxes. *presses play*
John Leonard
September 27th, 2012
1:55 am
She’s 45,a little old for me,but nice.
Half Empty
September 27th, 2012
1:56 am
I liked that Bello TV show that got cancelled , Prime Suspect
John Leonard
September 27th, 2012
2:01 am
You notice anything good usually gets the can.
John Leonard
September 27th, 2012
2:09 am
Nite all,and may the darts be in stealth mode today.
Capt.Mudd
September 27th, 2012
2:11 am
“The dance floor is silent and empty…..the band doesn’t play anymore.”
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
2:14 am
“The dance floor is silent and empty”
That’s ’cause I can’t dance worth a shi…
Band’s been paid. Damn well better keep playin’.
Capt.Mudd
September 27th, 2012
2:22 am
“…….and the dancers are dust…..on the floor.” CWM
Capt.Mudd
September 27th, 2012
2:33 am
Our records indicate; your check, Mr. BAS, has yet to clear—the band remains [regretfully] at rest. “The tombstones are weathered and broken……Oh Susanna, oh don’t you cry for me…..”
Couch Tater
September 27th, 2012
4:27 am
Maybe you need a helmet…
Holy cat-o-nine tails! YOU need a helmet, if you mention Payback without mentioning Lucy Liu. Meow.
Couch Tater
September 27th, 2012
4:39 am
I kindly request you refrain from referencing any sort of reality. Thank you.
Hmm….
We talk baseball, other sports, music, movies, BBQ and whatever (except politics or religion). I kindly request you refrain from referencing any sort of reality. Thank you.
I like it! Tweet that biotch.
Couch Tater
September 27th, 2012
5:00 am
BAS – Keep the tangled up mess of old cellphone chargers. You never know. But, I’d dump all of those sticky pennies that are in the drawer with the Ricola. Heavy and worth probably, what? $8.97?
Couch Tater
September 27th, 2012
5:14 am
MikeInFL – Good call about the Hanson pitch count/quick hook. I’m going to pay closer attention, tonight.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 27th, 2012
6:48 am
98.6 this morning
8 down 4 to go. Let’s do the 12-0 sweep of the FISH and METS. Come on TOMMY be excellent tonight.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 27th, 2012
7:01 am
……..
cowdogit
September 27th, 2012
7:07 am
I’am glad Fredi has started using speed to cause stress on good pitchers like Johnson. You know Johnson and his catcher were both stressed when on a squeeze play they allowed the pitch to go all the way to the back-stop. Heyward has turned into a great stress factor. When Heyward, Bourn and Canstanza are in the line-up the opposing pitcher and his infielders know they are going to be tested.
Couch Tater
September 27th, 2012
7:07 am
McFann has found a new home where everything that is wrong with the world is not blamed on Mac
Smorgastopia.
A land where polyunsaturated acidic comments are not tolerated. Love is in the fare.
Couch Tater
September 27th, 2012
7:28 am
BAS – Just saw your 3:15 DM. “You know any plastic bottle recycgkednfig”
I think you passed out on the damn phone, again.
UKUGA
September 27th, 2012
7:38 am
Sweep the Fish and keep the pressure on the Nats.
Jeff R
September 27th, 2012
7:39 am
Braves win; Phillies lose. When would we otherwise be disappointed by that development?
Phillies can take the series from the Nats tonight. The Braves need to sweep the hapless and strife-torn Fish.
Keep the pressure on the Nats, boys!
Jeff R
September 27th, 2012
7:40 am
Hanson needs to give the Braves 5.2 quality innings tonight. (Come on, Tommy, we’re talking about the Fish here.)
flange1
September 27th, 2012
7:43 am
Nice win last nite!
And Ghost of Chipper, great news on the grandson and KC.
Is he going to go pro?
Brian from SC
September 27th, 2012
7:54 am
That was a gut-check win by the Nationals last night. The Braves still have a shot, though.
With their win last night and the Cardinals’ loss, the Braves clinched the #1 wild card spot and home field in the wild card playoff game.
Meanwhile, huge wins by the Orioles and A’s kept the red-hot Angels at bay. And Detroit finds themselves alone in first place in the AL Central for the first time in a while.
Here are the updated magic numbers. No one can clinch anything today.
NL East – Washington – 4
NL Central – Cincinnati – clinched
NL West – San Francisco – clinched
NL Playoffs (relative to Milwaukee/Los Angeles)
Washington – clinched
Cincinnati – clinched
San Francisco – clinched
Atlanta – clinched
St. Louis – 4
NL #1 seed – Washington – 6 (relative to Cincinnati)
NL #1 wild card – Atlanta – clinched
AL East – New York – 6
AL Central – Detroit – 7
AL West – Texas – 5
AL Playoffs (relative to Los Angeles)
Texas – 3
New York – 4
Baltimore – 5
Oakland – 6
Detroit – 7 (relative to Chicago for division)
AL #1 seed – Texas – 7 (relative to New York)
AL #1 wild card – Baltimore – 7 (relative to Oakland)
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
7:54 am
Hanson has done a bit better w/ Ross (in fewer starts of course). He has a 4.90 ERA w/ Mac (119 IP), and a 3.27 ERA with Ross (44 IP)
In 36 PAs against the Marlins currently on the team, he has been hit at a .346/.528/.538/1.066 line. Ugly.
For the year, he’s faced the Marlins twice, for a total of 10 innings (yeesh), allowing 9 Hits and 2 runs. He’s walked 10 and struck of 11.
In 13 starts at home (74 IP), Hanson has gone 4-4 with a 4.60 ERA. Opponents hit him at a .288/.358/.477/.836 clip
Brian from SC
September 27th, 2012
8:00 am
The bell tolls in Pittsburgh, where the Pirates were mathematically eliminated from the postseason last night. Now they only have to shoot for a winning record…they need to go 6-1.
Today, the Phillies and Diamondbacks would be eliminated from the postseason with a loss and a win by St. Louis. If the White Sox lose today and Oakland wins, then Chicago would be eliminated from their long-shot wild card hopes, with only the division left.
Here are the updated elimination numbers:
NL Playoffs (relative to St. Louis)
Philadelphia – 2
Arizona – 2
Milwaukee – 4
Los Angeles – 4
AL Playoffs (relative to Oakland)
Tampa Bay – 5
Los Angeles – 6
Chicago – 7 (relative to Detroit for division)
flange1
September 27th, 2012
8:10 am
Hanson just needs to contribute tonight.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
8:14 am
Braves just have to keep coming after the Nats like the posse after Butch and Sundance. Could be that they can make the Nats jump off a cliff.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
8:18 am
That was a gut-check win by the Nationals last night.
True that. The papers were on the table at 5-4 and the Phillies couldn’t close the deal. Once the Nats exhaled, they were able to tack on. Give them credit, they reached down for that one.
Lemke's Knuckler
September 27th, 2012
8:25 am
TheOnlyBravesFan…”Hanson has done a bit better w/ Ross”
McCann and Ross are both really good catchers, but I think most of the pitchers do a slight bit better with Rossy catching. Not by much though, McCann still calls an excellent game.
UKUGA
September 27th, 2012
8:40 am
coastalbrave,
I just saw your post form 6:01 yesterday.
Yes, I expect parking to be at a premium on Friday.
Best advice is always to give yourself ample time to drive by and if you don’t see anything, have a MARTA fallback plan.
If you don’t want to take that chance then either
A) pay for a parking pass on-line (at a premium)
B) plan ahead to use MARTA and factor that into your travel time
From my experience, I have never not been able to find someone willing to take money and let me park in their lot.
My pattern is generally to drive South on Pryor and see what is available, then cut over to Central Ave and head north and see what is available.
Traditionally, I tried to park on Central Ave, because it goes north one way, and I was always heading north after the game. However, those are mostly Braves lots now. Pryor becomes the better option. Shadier, but better.
If you are running late, then you might not want to take a chance, because you may get stuck in traffic and still not be able to find parking.
UKUGA
September 27th, 2012
8:42 am
If we’re 3 out after tonight, then this was a really successful 3 game stretch, regardless of what WAS did last night.
Pressure?? What Pressure??
September 27th, 2012
8:44 am
I’m betting the Nats get a total of 3 wins and/or Braves losses out of the next 14 games combined that 2 teams play. If Washington can’t handle that kind of “pressure” they should all join Strasberg on the sidelines. Cards will have clinched Wild Card by Saturday and Sunday and Monday -Wednesday games the Nats have with them will be meaningless.
UKUGA
September 27th, 2012
8:44 am
I really thought Werth was gonna get clowned and then the Phils were gonna take it in the bottom of the 9th.
Give him credit for the big 2 strike knock.
Pressure?? What Pressure??
September 27th, 2012
8:50 am
The Nats have allegedly been on that cliff for 145 games,however, they somehow are just barely capable of “lucking” it out. Wonder if they played a 332 game schedule if they would be considered bonafide? Probably not. And this is still going on with the inexplicable shut down of 1 of their 2 aces and the effect that inevitably had on rotation AND morale. Just think if Medlen had been shut down. By the way, meant to say “Washington’s 3 games next week against the Phillies after they have been eliminated.”
Sylvester Bill
September 27th, 2012
8:54 am
UKUGA
Did you or someone else mention that the IBEW lot is now a “Braves” lot? That was always the best for getting out after the game if going south; a little spooky walking back in the dark, but great to get on home quickly
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
9:28 am
3 back with 6 to play heading into the weekend would be nice. That’s what I’ll be hoping for.
Really rooting for Tommy tonight. Everyone is pretty much holding their weight around here in the rotation and it’d be great to see Hanson come in with a quality start.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
9:31 am
I wonder if they will pull Hudson back and start Teheran or Delgado in the last day of the season. Huddy is going on Friday night, so it’d be 8 days between starts, I think – provided we make it to the division series.
Brian from SC
September 27th, 2012
9:35 am
No, Hudson will not pitch next Wednesday unless they would win the division outright with a win. I’m sure he’ll do some throwing between to keep him in rhythm, but no need to make that start, which would put him on 3 days rest for Game 1 of the NLDS.
Brian from SC
September 27th, 2012
9:36 am
Alternatively, would the Braves consider starting Minor in Game 1 of the NLDS, at home? Then Hudson would be lined up for Game 2 on regular rest, and Medlen for Game 3.
Webster
September 27th, 2012
9:36 am
How short a leash is Hanson on tonight?
Hillbilly
September 27th, 2012
9:38 am
I won’t complain, because that series of posts was “Bay Area Steve Gold” but who packs to move at those hours of the night?
Livin’ on the Run? Feds? One-Niners? Marsellus Wallace? Did you get the pancakes with the blueberries? Who’s Zed?
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
9:39 am
Alternatively, would the Braves consider starting Minor in Game 1 of the NLDS, at home? Then Hudson would be lined up for Game 2 on regular rest, and Medlen for Game 3.
Minor in a Game 5, if necessary. Braves would be showing a lot of confidence in the young man, if they set it up that way.
Brian from SC
September 27th, 2012
9:40 am
Indeed, scoots. I still think it would be Hudson. But the Braves have some options, with Minor pitching so well.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
9:40 am
I believe Minor has been much better at home, so that could happen.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
9:41 am
I need to see the playoff schedule first….or, ya know, be eligible for the division series first…..
Brian from SC
September 27th, 2012
9:43 am
Efrim, assuming the Braves don’t win the division, and win the wild card game, it would be Sunday and Monday at home, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday on the road.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
9:44 am
I’d rather have Minor go game 1 NLDS since he’s outperformed Hudson by quite a bit. However, Huddy is the veteran, so I’ll bet that he gets the nod. Nothing wrong with that anyway.
How short a leash is Hanson on tonight?
I’d hope it’s a short leash, but as we’ve already clinched the #1 spot, he doesn’t necessarily have to be on a short leash. Fredi can let him go as long as he wants. Now, if Fredi looks up at the scoreboard and sees that it’s 10-0 Phils, short leash!!!
Brian from SC
September 27th, 2012
9:46 am
The real decision is not about who gets Game 1. Minor and Hudson will get Games 1 and 2 at home in some order.
Whoever you start in Game 1 would pitch the hypothetical Game 5, on the road. That’s the key.
Brian from SC
September 27th, 2012
9:47 am
Too bad Washington and Philly aren’t playing a day game today.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
9:47 am
scoots, would you really trade Maholm this offseason? I guess anything could happen, but I just don’t see it. 6.5 million for 180 innings and an ERA of around 3.80-4.20 – pretty solid.
And I hate soft tossing LHP’s, but I want the guy to stay and be a solid veteran at the back of the rotation.
UKUGA
September 27th, 2012
9:48 am
Sylvester Bill,
The IBEW lot is where I used to park. I don’t think it’s a “Braves” lot now, I just don’t know that they are still letting people pay to park there.
Last time I went (Rockies series – day after Labor Day), the lot was about 70% full of cars with people mulling about, but no one was there to take money. I suspect I could’ve gotten away with parking and walking away, but I have an aversion to having my car towed.
The next time I go, I plan to drive by there again and see, but something makes me think that they are no longer renting out that lot during games. If so, it’s a shame, because it really was one of the best places to park – and cheap.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
9:49 am
Probably the most interesting aspect of the post-season will be watching Medlen and Minor under the big lights. One guy back from the bullpen and the other back from a starter’s abyss, and the team asking each of them to make the four or five biggest starts of their lives. And, oh by the way, win them. Neither of them with 50 ML starts.
Yowsah.
Murph
September 27th, 2012
9:50 am
Hanson will give up no less than 2 HR tonight, although no more than 4… but the Braves will win anyways.
Great game last night from Maholm. That was nice to see. The whole 4 hits thing was a little disturbing, but a win is a win is a win.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
9:50 am
I believe Minor has been much better at home, so that could happen.
This year… 3.47 ERA at home 5.14 ERA away. Opponents hit him at a .220/.286/.344/.629 clip at home, and .251/.313/.489/.801 away. Same trend if you look at his career.
As I just checked the stats, it broke my heart to see that even with all his struggles earlier this year, Mike Minor has outperformed Tommy Hanson… yea, his ERA was higher before (it’s not anymore), but opponents don’t hit him as hard as they do Tommy. Has to be an injury. And Mike Minor is 24, 1st professional season. Tommy is 25 in his 4th.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
9:53 am
Efrim, assuming the Braves don’t win the division, and win the wild card game, it would be Sunday and Monday at home, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday on the road.
Thanks, Brian. I should be able to catch all of the games – which is nice. Really hope we get there.
Murph
September 27th, 2012
9:54 am
Efrim and scoots, what are your takes on the very real possibility that Teheran starts out next year at AAA for a 3rd year in a row?
I know he’s still just a baby, but spending 3 years at one level in the minors has got to have some effect on his psyche, doesn’t it? I’ve wondered if part of the reason why he had such a down year this year was not winning a spot in the rotation out of spring training… seems like a season-long pout didn’t do the kid any favors…. if that’s part of his problem, which I don’t know that it is/was.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
9:55 am
would you really trade Maholm this offseason?
I don’t know that I would, personally. Or the Braves, either. I just think that it’s one avenue that could be explored, depending on how they view their priorities and how they allocate their resources. Go big on pitching and you’re looking at slotting Minor at 4, which is pretty strong, and I can’t see them paying Maholm to be a fifth starter, in that scenario.
GTI in Brooklyn
September 27th, 2012
9:56 am
It’s good to see the Bravos finishing up the season on a strong run (16-7, so far this month). Last September is well documented, but they also finished weakly in 2010, going 13-14 in September, and only clinching the WC on the last day of the season after having played 1st place baseball through late summer.
Dadgum....
September 27th, 2012
10:01 am
I would start Hudson without question in game 1 if we make it. Minor game 2. Medlen game 3. Maholm game 4. Bring Hudson back for game 5. Medlen would be set for starting the NL series if all that falls into place.
Hanson and Sheets (obviously) will be off the roster. The above pitchers will be the post-season pitchers. Delgado probably goes to the pen.
Dadgum....
September 27th, 2012
10:01 am
I would start Hudson without question in game 1 if we make it. Minor game 2. Medlen game 3. Maholm game 4. Bring Hudson back for game 5. Medlen would be set for starting the NL series if all that falls into place.
Hanson and Sheets (obviously) will be off the roster. The above pitchers will be the post-season pitchers. Delgado probably goes to the pen.
David O'Brien
September 27th, 2012
10:01 am
By the way, Braves (90-65) are now tied with Yankees and Giants for 4th-best record in majors.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
10:03 am
what are your takes on the very real possibility that Teheran starts out next year at AAA for a 3rd year in a row?
I don’t think it kills him. Maybe he goes down to instructionals after the season to work on some stuff, maybe he just puts this year in the rearview and spits as it goes by. Next year is next year, and I think he gets every chance to get a spot in ST. Assuming he isn’t traded in the offseason, and I really-really-really hope they don’t do that.
But if he ends up in AAA, then he just has to pitch well enough down there to make them regret the decision. He’s going to end up in the bigs somewhere, and I’m guessing he’s smart enough to kno wthat.
Dadgum....
September 27th, 2012
10:05 am
Damn double post! Said my post didn’t connect to the server. Hit resend. Sorry!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
10:05 am
Delgado in the ‘pen? Meh. Guess it’d be okay. I think Gearrin has earned a spot too.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
10:07 am
Go big on pitching and you’re looking at slotting Minor at 4, which is pretty strong, and I can’t see them paying Maholm to be a fifth starter, in that scenario.
Yeah, I guess it all depends on the allocation of salary. One thing is clear, just can’t see Tommy Hanson on the team next year. I think they will absolutely find a trade partner that is willing ot give fair value for the kid.
Brian from SC
September 27th, 2012
10:10 am
The Braves have hit another season low in team ERA. Down to 3.49 for the year, 3.26 in 125 games since May 8th, 2.62 in 60 games since July 23rd.
Bat Masterson
September 27th, 2012
10:10 am
As I just checked the stats, it broke my heart to see that even with all his struggles earlier this year, Mike Minor has outperformed Tommy Hanson
How does the challenge deal work? Can one challenge sincerity?
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
10:11 am
Next year is next year, and I think he gets every chance to get a spot in ST. Assuming he isn’t traded in the offseason, and I really-really-really hope they don’t do that.
I really hope it doesn’t happen either. Like I’ve said, the writing is on the wall for what the Braves trade assets are – Tommy Hanson and Randall Delgado. I think they will do whatever they can to keep Teheran, Gilmartin and Graham. Nick Ahmed, would also be a player that gets a lot of attention this winter – especially with a solid showing at the AFL.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
10:12 am
depends on what we call fair value…based on Tommy’s current state
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
10:12 am
Yeah, I guess it all depends on the allocation of salary.
Exactly. It’s one of the few ways that they could go big on pitching and big for one OF spot and still have a few bucks left. And by “big”, I mean eight-figure stuff.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
10:15 am
3.26 in 125 games since May 8th
Is that the best in the league in that stretch?
How does the challenge deal work? Can one challenge sincerity?
At least MFin is honest about the hatred.
Brian from SC
September 27th, 2012
10:16 am
3.26 in 125 games since May 8th
Is that the best in the league in that stretch?
Yes.
Venice Jim
September 27th, 2012
10:26 am
Herbert Lom, the Czech-born actor best known as Inspector Clouseau’s long-suffering boss in the “Pink Panther” movies, died Thursday, his son said. He was 95.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
10:27 am
I don’t hate Tommy Hanson. I don’t see a real reason to keep him in our rotation next year (too many arms) and I don’t see why a GM would trade a valuable prospect for him. He’s trending downward, it has to be alarming.
No need to tell Tommy to “Go to hell” as one poster previously said about another player. I’m not that bad.
raleighbravefan
September 27th, 2012
10:28 am
Let me get this straight….lowest era since May 8th. All pitchers under control for 2013 (assuming pick up options on Huddy & Maholm, and tender Hanson).
Medlen, Huddy (post ankle clean-up), Minor, Maholm, and choice of Teheran, Delgado, Gilmartin, and post rehabbed Hanson (if no one traded).
Sounds like to me that we should use our limited resources on LF and CF… re-signing our other assets, making sure RP and bench are strong.
I don’t see going after a top pitcher…unless a deep playoff run results in LM increasing the payroll.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
10:29 am
scoots: Does going big on pitching mean a certain Angels pitcher?
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
10:30 am
Moving Maholm would have to be a logical move this offseason. Specially if we’re looking to fill multiple needs and we currently have other options that could perform equally well. The only thing that might be in Maholm’s favor is his ability to work deep into ballgames but that’s not to say we can’t replace that.
Meg Griffin
September 27th, 2012
10:31 am
I am curious to those who watched the game,did we hang a flag in the outfield last night? Or will that be tomorrow with Chipper ceremony?
raleighbravefan
September 27th, 2012
10:31 am
TOBF – There are a lot of pretty bad pitching staffs out there. I think you will be pleasnatly surprised at what he will fetch, if Wren does trade him. My guess is that he will get every opportunity in ST.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
10:32 am
Sounds like to me that we should use our limited resources on LF and CF… re-signing our other assets, making sure RP and bench are strong.
I don’t see going after a top pitcher…unless a deep playoff run results in LM increasing the payroll.
This could very well be the teams thinking. I’m not as against it as I was in July, but I’d still love to see another arm at the top of the rotation. I’d sacrifice offense in CF for that, I think.
Lew
September 27th, 2012
10:33 am
“3.26 in 125 games since May 8th, 2.62 in 60 games since July 23.” Best in the league in that stretch.
So let’s see – Hudson returned on April 29 and Jurrjens sent to the minors on April 24 and Maholm added not long after July 23. That likely accounts for much of the improvement.
These numbers are exactly the reason that the Braves will make no significant pitching changes this winter past exercising options on Hudson and Maholm. There is no need to make significant changes – especially since we also have a lights out bullpen.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
10:33 am
Sure I’ll move Maholm….
As long as ‘Big Game’ James ends up here in place of him.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
10:33 am
The only thing that might be in Maholm’s favor is his ability to work deep into ballgames but that’s not to say we can’t replace that.
…and left-handed. That’s a plus.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
10:35 am
I’m not as against it as I was in July, but I’d still love to see another arm at the top of the rotation. I’d sacrifice offense in CF for that, I think.
We are of a mind.
TennesseePaul
September 27th, 2012
10:39 am
Can one challenge sincerity?
It’s going to be hard. You have to provide a lot of evidence to qualify the challenge. Otherwise all your future challenges will be negated. Can’t just toss out a challenge willy nilly. It’s a serious thing to do.
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
10:40 am
Maholm isn’t an ace nor even a top of the rotation pitcher.. he is for all intents and purposes a great role player. I’m not even sure we wouldn’t get the same level of return from Gilmartin. I don’t understand the love for maintaining the status quo. We should always be looking for ways to improve this club.
DIPEN PATEL
September 27th, 2012
10:42 am
Never mind the nationals, we have TOTALLY UNFINISHED BUSINESS with those losers from ST LOUIS after what they did to us in 2011.I can’t even wait at all to play them in that one-game elimination game, especially when it’s REVENGE TIME for BRAVESNATION.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
David O'Brien
September 27th, 2012
10:42 am
Of the six teams with the majors’ best records, three (Yankees, Rangers, Giants) rank second through fourth in the majors in home attendance, behind Philadelphia. The other three teams (Nationals, Braves, Reds) occupy the exact middle of the majors in home attendance, ranking 14th through 16th respectively.
Not coincidentally, the top four teams in MLB attendance also ranked among the top eight in USA Today’s Opening Day payroll rankings, led by the Yankees ($198 million) and Phillies ($174 million) with the two highest payrolls and two highest home-attendance averages, the Phillies at 44,020 and Yankees at 43,691.
The Rangers were sixth in payroll at $120 million and are third in attendance at 42,532, and the Giants were eighth in Opening Day payroll at $118 million and are fourth in attendance at 41,703, which is 99.5 percent of capacity at their ballpark, third in the majors behind the Red Sox (101.4 percent of capacity) and Phillies (100.8 percent).
Meanwhile, the Braves were 18th in Opening Day payroll at about $83 million, although they moved up two spots with Derek Lowe $10 million payout added to the total. The Reds were 17th at roughly $82 million, and the Nationals 20th at about $81 million.
And the home attendance of those three NL teams? Washington is 14th with an average of 29,799, Atlanta is 15th at 29,117, and Cincinnati 16th at 29,048. The 17th and 18th spots are occupied by the Mets (27,991) and Marlins (27,347).
In terms of percentage of capacity at their ballpark, the Braves’ attendance ranks 22nd at 58.5 percent. Eleven teams are at 83 percent capacity or higher.
Lew
September 27th, 2012
10:43 am
Let’s see – best pitching in the league for most of the season and we have a wildly inconsistent offense and will have two outfield openings.
So yeah – the best way to improve the club is to get better pitching. Sheesh.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
10:44 am
Maholm isn’t an ace nor even a top of the rotation pitcher.. he is for all intents and purposes a great role player
There is a lot of value in a #3/4 starter who can pitch in the low 4’s/high 3’s – especially for one that is only costing you 6.5 million.
This is the issue with the Hanson hatred as well. He’ll cost you 3 million next year and controlled through 2015. That’s valuable in the back of your rotation – and again, have you seen some of the starting pitchers that are run out there? It’s awful. Luke Hochvar is the Royals #1 and he’s probably getting non tendered this offseason.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
10:44 am
Lew: You may be right, but we’re losing Chipper and likely Bourn this offseason. It’s gonna darn near impossible to replace their production. A way to help overcome that is to bring in better defense and pitchers.
Can’t upgrade much over Bourn in CF and Prado at 3B will be slightly better. We can upgrade the pitching staff in a major way. Huddy will be a year older, so he might be worse. We hope that Minor and Medlen continue to pitch the way they have. We know what Maholm gives us, and we need a 5th starter. I’d be more comfy if we added a top pitcher to front this rotation, especially since we will need one in 2014.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
10:48 am
the best way to improve the club is to get better pitching.
It’s all about run differential, whether it’s pitching, hitting, defense, baserunning. Getting better in an area is going to make the team better.
I see everyones point about putting it all towards the outfield. I’m not against that. But this team needs a frontline guy. May as well get that this winter – because you’ll absoultely need it the following year and years after.
TennesseePaul
September 27th, 2012
10:49 am
Prado at 3B will be slightly better
Slightly better than what?
Murph
September 27th, 2012
10:52 am
The team has pitched outstanding, no doubt about it… but there’s no reason to sit back and not look to improve the staff. If the opportunity presents itself to pick a guy like Haren for a reasonable price or Shields for a reasonable trade why would you not pursue it?
Hanson/Delgado/Teheran are all major question marks. Hudson has pitched hurt almost the entire season. Beachy is out until at least August/September.
I don’t want to sign Greinke, but I do think the team should go after pitching just to help minimize the risk, of which there is a lot going into 2013.
Lew
September 27th, 2012
10:53 am
OnlyBraves – Like I keep preaching to deaf ears – the shortest distance between two points is a straight line, yet people want to continually take a “Billy in Family Circus” circuitous approach to filling needs. Never have figured out why.
We need two outfielders. We will need a backup catcher (whether or not that means re-signing Ross or making another acquistion). We will need a RH pinch hitter/outfielder/first base backup. We will need a middle infield backup (whether re-signing Janish if healthy or someone else). We have several arb situations that need resolving and we need to lock up Prado, Heyward and maybe another player or two.
Just not seeing that pitching is any kind of an issue that needs addressing (until next winter when Huddy and Maholm are no longer under contract). There are other needs that DO need addressing this winter. That should be more than enough to keep FW and his staff hopping. He won’t deal with what doesn’t need fixing – especially since we have Teheran, Delgado (if not traded) and Gilmartin very close to being ready.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
10:53 am
There is a lot of value in a #3/4 starter who can pitch in the low 4’s/high 3’s – especially for one that is only costing you 6.5 million. This is the issue with the Hanson hatred as well. He’ll cost you 3 million next year and controlled through 2015. That’s valuable in the back of your rotation
All true. Plenty of teams would toe-curl having those two guys with those two contracts.
The question remains, are the Braves’ other starters, the guys who will be pitching against Strasburg/Gio/Zimmerman and Halladay/Lee/Hamels and other top staffs, capable of providing at-least neutral matchups in those games? Because you’re asking relatively inexperienced guys with very little track record to be pretty flippin’ good.
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
10:55 am
What exactly can’t be replaced in the outfield? For over a 1/3 of the season we’ve had a hole in LF, so that hole has been there all along. As far as replacing the production in CF being complicated.. what production are we having to replace? Cause the guy I’ve seen playing CF this season hasn’t done much at the plate in a very long time.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
10:57 am
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/cards-haven-t-clinched-but-ponder-how-to-celebrate/article_d70f9441-5f73-51b6-bb40-ca220570fdb0.html
The Cardinals took notice of the Atlanta Braves’ raucous celebration following Tuesday night’s clinch. A year after fumbling the league’s only wild card to the Cardinals on the season’s final day, the Braves and manager Fredi Gonzalez cut loose with a cathartic celebration that swirled around third baseman Chipper Jones, who has announced his retirement at season’s end.
“No disrespect to what they did, but I think we’re going to save the big pop for after we beat Atlanta,” said pitcher and ex-Brave Adam Wainwright.
Jeff R
September 27th, 2012
10:58 am
What’s Wren perspective, upgrade the pitching or offense for ‘13? if he has to choose?
Medlen, Minor, Hudson, Maholm, and, perhaps, Delgado (unless Wren moves Delgado in a trade). No Hanson, IMO. Then there’s Teheran. I think Teheran should at least begin the ‘13 season at Gwinnett, but he could make the rotation with a solid spring. Possible.
Hudson is getting long in the tooth, but he’s had a good ‘12 campaign and is a very disciplined athlete. I think Wren counts on Hudson going into next season. Beachy returns mid-season, though his ability to produce quality starts remains to be seen. Yet, if he’s healthy, longer term he’s in the rotation.
Offense, as Lew said, has been erratic. I think that will be the focus of Wren’s concern this winter. With more budget money available, though not an unlimited amount, I think Wren seeks to improve the offense first, either via trade or free agents.
Jeff R
September 27th, 2012
11:00 am
“No disrespect to what they did, but I think we’re going to save the big pop for after we beat Atlanta,” said pitcher and ex-Brave Adam Wainwright.
Okay, Adam. Whatever makes you guys happy. Here’s to your Cards losing the WC match.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
11:00 am
“No disrespect to what they did, but I think we’re going to save the big pop for after we beat Atlanta,” said pitcher and ex-Brave Adam Wainwright.
Bulletin board.
Sylvester Bill
September 27th, 2012
11:00 am
UKUGA
Thanks for the info
Lew
September 27th, 2012
11:01 am
I do see the possibility of a Hanson trade, though not for pitching.
Jeff R
September 27th, 2012
11:02 am
Excellent post at 10:53 am, Lew.
TennesseePaul
September 27th, 2012
11:02 am
Braves 2012 production from LF: .304/.358/.450/.808 with a 114 OPS+
Bat Masterson
September 27th, 2012
11:04 am
It’s going to be hard. You have to provide a lot of evidence to qualify the challenge _ 10Paul
Thanks for the clarification. I’m not willing to do all that work, and I’m not sure how deep my credibility well is so…………. I’ll just say, it seems to me a large percentage of TOBF’s comments paint TH in a bad light, and I get the impression he enjoys them more than a bit , but I could be wrong.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
11:04 am
Slightly better than what?
Chipper. Maybe he’s more than just slightly better, but I don’t think that Martin is necessarily a defensive wizard at 3B.
TennesseePaul
September 27th, 2012
11:04 am
Here’s to your Cards losing the WC match.
…against the Nats.
raleighbravefan
September 27th, 2012
11:06 am
AT – I’m not for status quo…I’m always looking to improve…I believe Wren is doing the same…
I just believe that if we still have limited resouces, we should spend them in the area of greatest need…which I believe is the outfield, and areas beyond the starting rotation. Now, If Wren can fix the areas of greater need, and still improve the SP, I’m all for that.
I don’t know how to say that in another way, so you can understand it. Just my opinion, of course. I respect yours.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
11:06 am
There is definitely a few here who believe that Medlen/Hudson/Minor can stack up with Hamels/Lee/Halladay or Strasburg/Zimmermann/Gonzalez over the course of a 162 game season.
To that,….. I’d say nicely – you’re kinda crazy.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
11:06 am
…against the Nats.
Are you shouldering a weapon with me on the high ground of The Last Stand, LOL?
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
11:07 am
Offense, as Lew said, has been erratic.
Why has it been erratic? and is there reason to think it would improve?
I think we have the potential, with or without Bourne and Chipper, to have a very good offense next season. You’ve got growth from both Heyward and Freeman plus Prado and Simmons returns and is it possible that Uggla and McCann bounces back? That’s a very solid core of offensive production. I don’t see the dire straits. That’s not to say I wouldn’t like to see use get some offensive potential over the offseason but I do feel that a top flight, front of the rotation addition is as much of a need as any offense.
TennesseePaul
September 27th, 2012
11:08 am
Chipper. Maybe he’s more than just slightly better, but I don’t think that Martin is necessarily a defensive wizard at 3B.
HA! Oh man that’s good stuff. So Prado in 2012 is better than Chipper in 2012?
You do realize that, offensively at least, Chipper is the second best third baseman in the league? Martin hasn’t out hit Chipper this year. When Chipper isn’t playing third for the Braves this season, the Braves third base numbers go down, decrease, plummet, drop, are not as good, are weaker, etc.
Chipper improved this team this season. Prado was on this team this season, which Chipper improved. Next year Prado will be here, but Chipper will not. That is pure subtraction that doesn’t get better by merely shuffling the chairs.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
11:09 am
Nats just need to go 4-3, correct?
And as much as I like him still, 2 of those 7 starts are made by Hanson…
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
11:10 am
Lew: Good points you have, but I’ll disagree a bit. I think that we can get those OF pieces and still have time/money to get a SP. Especially if we go defense first in CF, getting someone like Bourjos. There will be quite a bit of money left. Not sure who we can really get for LF outside of Willingham who fits what we want, i.e. being a RH power bat.
I also don’t really want to wait until 2014 to get a top SP. Hudson and Maholm are really the only guys in our rotation who have pitched multiple seasons. Tim’s turning 38 and Maholm is a #3-4. A little scary.
Also, if we wait til 2014, James Shields might not be available, and if he is, it’d only be for 1 yr. In the free agent market, the only pitcher who looks good would be Josh Johnson, and we all know of his injury trouble.
TennesseePaul
September 27th, 2012
11:11 am
Are you shouldering a weapon with me on the high ground of The Last Stand, LOL?
Well, scoots, I was worried when you didn’t post it… you feeling ok?
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
11:12 am
but I do feel that a top flight, front of the rotation addition is as much of a need as any offense.
There, I think I’ll disagree. I really think a RH banger has to be the first priority, and it has to be filled even at the expense of any other priorities.
Hillbilly
September 27th, 2012
11:14 am
…against the Nats. — Love it
Are you shouldering a weapon with me on the high ground of The Last Stand, LOL? — You can bet your 4$$ I am.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
11:14 am
TPaul: I believe that I was talking about the defense, and so I was saying that Prado is a better defensive 3B than Chipper. Offensively, Chipper is better by a mile!
Murph
September 27th, 2012
11:14 am
Aside from Pagan, what other OF free agent is available that fits the Braves’ needs?
My guess is that at least one of the two open OF positions will be filled via trade. What chips do the Braves have to use in trades? The very pitching that people want to leave alone and not improve.
Gotta trade talent to get talent. Hanson alone isn’t going to bring a high quality, MLB-ready LF. Hanson plus Delgado would, though.
So, now your team strength has been weakened a bit. Which, to me, means you need to look at a guy like Haren.
Sign Pagan
Sign Haren
Sign another BP arm
Trade Hanson and Delgado for a LF
Win the 2013 WS
Lew
September 27th, 2012
11:14 am
With Hudson and Maholm’s contracts being gone after 2013, there WILL be a need for pitching next winter – all the more reason thae younger pitchers will be showcased this year. Wren has to know what he has going into the 2013 offseason – why go out and get more pitching if they have home grown options ready to step in?
raleighbravefan
September 27th, 2012
11:16 am
AT @10:55 – Exactly my point. That’s why we need to upgrade at LF, and get best replacement possible at CF.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
September 27th, 2012
11:19 am
AT is it possible that Uggla and McCann bounce back?
YES!!!
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
11:19 am
I really think a RH banger has to be the first priority
But that’s something I’m just not sure is available.. anywhere. If it is and I’m wrong, bring it on. I’d love for us to find that addition. However, I think we’re just going to have to hope Uggla can find ‘10 all over again or his HR totals of ‘11.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
11:19 am
The only 2 pitchers on our roster right now likely to be here in 2014 are Minor and Medlen. Even if we add Delgado to the rotation next year, we still will need to fill 2 spots for the 2014 season. Might be 2 rookies. Oh my.
Lew
September 27th, 2012
11:20 am
Only BRaves – I still think you’re jumping the gun. In 2014, even with Hudson and Maholm gone (but with $15.5 mil back in the coffers), we will still have a rotation (considering Hanson is traded) Medlen, MInor (who will have yet another year under his belt and he’s better than many have ever given him credit for), Beachy, Teheran, Delgado, Gilmartin and a couple of guys who might also be ready by then. In other words, they may not need to make any significant acquistions then either, but will have some payroll flexibility to do so if the deem it necessary.
This winter is NOT the time to worry about 2014.
Brian from SC
September 27th, 2012
11:21 am
The middle of a playoff race is definitely not the time to worry about 2014.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
11:23 am
we’re just going to have to hope Uggla
Gonna have to have that, in any event. Heyward and Freeman are gonna have to hit lefties better, too. All that has to happen, and you’re still going to need one more righty bat.
raleighbravefan
September 27th, 2012
11:25 am
Lew @11:14 – Co-sign. Plus, Beachy will likely be 100% in 2014.
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
11:27 am
McFann, welcome back.. long time no see.
DAP
September 27th, 2012
11:29 am
lew Wren has to know what he has going into the 2013 offseason – why go out and get more pitching if they have home grown options ready to step in?
maybe they arent ready to step in?
murph Sign Pagan
Sign Haren
Sign another BP arm
Trade Hanson and Delgado for a LF
Win the 2013 WS
love this plan.
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
11:29 am
ncscoots, it’s not just those 2 that are going to have to hit lefties better but Uggla isn’t exactly holding his own against them either which just compounds the issues we’re having against lefties given we brought Uggla in to be that neutralizing force from the right side.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
September 27th, 2012
11:29 am
Thanks, AT!…
TennesseePaul
September 27th, 2012
11:31 am
Plus, Beachy will likely be 100% in 2014.
I’d imagine he’ll be on an innings limit in 2014. It’ll be good to have him back, but they’ll need depth to help him slide back into a full time gig.
Mixxo
September 27th, 2012
11:31 am
“…So yeah – the best way to improve the club is to get better pitching. Sheesh. – Lew
Well, that’s what the ‘armchair experts’ think. LOL
We have pitching, we need consistent offense.
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
11:31 am
This winter is NOT the time to worry about 2014.
I think you should always have an eye towards the future.
Mixxo
September 27th, 2012
11:34 am
The middle of a playoff race is definitely not the time to worry about 2014.
Thank
You !!!
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
11:34 am
Lew and Mixxo agree and have the same views… uuut ohhh
Mixxo
September 27th, 2012
11:34 am
The middle of a playoff race is definitely not the time to worry about 2014.
Thank
You !!!
Lew
September 27th, 2012
11:35 am
And if they aren’t ready to step in, then he will know it by then and will get more pitching if and when he needs to do so. The fact remains he will showcase the kids this year and find out for sure. But even so, he’ll still have Medlen, Minor and Beachy and $15.5 million to start with.
And I’ll go out on a limb here and predict that by 2014, two of the group of kids will be ready for end of the rotation duties.
DAP
September 27th, 2012
11:37 am
AT I really think a RH banger has to be the first priority
But that’s something I’m just not sure is available.. anywhere. If it is and I’m wrong, bring it on. I’d love for us to find that addition
justin upton will be on the block, if we can get him. thats big time, though.
it actually depends on what you really want. if you just want a righthander that kills lefties, cody ross is the perfect option. he has like a 1.000 OPS vs southpaws. if you want a guys who can just plain hit…well, dont limit your search to righthanders.
Brave New World
September 27th, 2012
11:40 am
First of all, Congratulations Braves! We already have 90 wins, and the reality is we really haven’t hit well as a team. If we can get the hitting going (as in now), we can go deep into the playoffs. As history has shown us, it is often the team that gets hot at the right time that wins the championship. GO BRAVES!
Lew
September 27th, 2012
11:40 am
Transplant – Scary, ain’t it? As for the view forward, they have one – why do you think that Wren steadfastly refuses to trade the young pitching? Could it be that we’ll need those cheap young arms going forward?
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
11:40 am
He’ll know if we need more pitching alright, then he’ll be desperate and try to make a “Delgado for Dempster” like trade again. Yeesh!
Beachy might be back in 2014, but I’m sure he’ll be on an innings limit. His career high in innings is 141, set last year. And even then, we have to “hope” that he’s back. Laying hope in Minor, Medlen, and Beachy.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
11:43 am
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1349634-atlanta-braves-where-do-september-call-ups-fit-in-2013-plans
Overbay will be competing for a spot on the Braves postseason roster (I believe he will prevail), and if he performs well, I could definitely see him taking Eric Hinske’s roster spot on the Braves in 2013.
Casey Kotchman, Ty Wigginton, Xavier Nady, and James Loney are all potential backup first basemen and bench bats for the Braves, but they are neither cheaper than nor performing better than Overbay.
Odds of a Braves roster spot in 2013: 50 percent
I envision: veteran minimum deal, backup first baseman and pinch hitter.
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
11:43 am
cody ross is the perfect option
Except for the fact that he’s already turned down an offer from us once and more than likely will re-up with Boston.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
11:43 am
if you want a guys who can just plain hit…well, dont limit your search to righthanders.
A middle of the order of Heyward, Freeman, Uggla, McCann LH banger for LF is just simply not going to be that great vs. LHP. It makes all the sense in the world to focus on a RH hitter so we don’t have the Sean Burnett’s of the world coming in and striking out Heyward and Freeman…
Yes, they need to get better vs. LHP. But asking them to 800 vs. them is a bit much. And there is enougfh LHP in the league that a balanced lineup should be a priority. It’s not 75% RHP any longer.
Lew
September 27th, 2012
11:45 am
OnlyBraves – Believe or not as you will. But what I’ve said – NO significant pitching acquistions this winter, letting the kids show what they can do and concentration on offensive needs this year are what WILL happen.
You can tell me I was right next spring.
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
11:45 am
why do you think that Wren steadfastly refuses to trade the young pitching?
He’s kind of back track on this view I would say.. trading Viz and almost traded Delgado.
Jeff R
September 27th, 2012
11:46 am
With Hudson and Maholm’s contracts being gone after 2013, there WILL be a need for pitching next winter – all the more reason thae younger pitchers will be showcased this year. Wren has to know what he has going into the 2013 offseason – why go out and get more pitching if they have home grown options ready to step in?
I think Delgado will be ready. Teheran and Gilmartin, not far behind.
Wren’s developing pitchers for a reason. It’s cost-effective for a team that has a crimped budget.
Lew
September 27th, 2012
11:48 am
Seriously Transplant – how much young pitching has he traded? Not enough that you can site examples past a rumor that never came to fruition and a guy with (what most people claimed) was closer potential and who is injured and likely not to be back at full strength until 2014 (and we already have Kimbrel).
Jeff R
September 27th, 2012
11:49 am
Well, I don’t think Wren’s developing pitchers just to use as trade leverage. Of course, he’s not going to keep every pitching prospect. But Wren’s aim is to develop and retain as many arms as he needs.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
11:49 am
A rumor… the deal was done. Dempster just didn’t accept it.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
11:50 am
Wren’s developing pitchers for a reason. It’s cost-effective for a team that has a crimped budget.
I don’t disagree with this, but when was the last time you saw a contender fronting its rotation with three pre-arb-eligible guys, LOL?
Lew
September 27th, 2012
11:50 am
Oh – and Redmond, who was on the verge of becoming a career minor leaguer, never to seriously be included in the Braves’ plans going forward.
Lew
September 27th, 2012
11:51 am
scoots – The Rays? Another team with low p[ayroll and the need to rely on the Kids.
Lew
September 27th, 2012
11:53 am
But by 2014 season’s start, Medlen will have been through arb twice and MInor and Beachy once.
Frankie
September 27th, 2012
11:53 am
“Probably the most interesting aspect of the post-season will be watching Medlen and Minor under the big lights. One guy back from the bullpen and the other back from a starter’s abyss, and the team asking each of them to make the four or five biggest starts of their lives. And, oh by the way, win them. Neither of them with 50 ML starts.
Yowsah.”
Yep this is a total crapshoot to see how both perform, especially Minor. This is why Dempster would have been a huge addition and pitch Game 2 IMO and make a big impact. Good experience for both but it if comes down to it, need to win now and a lot of pressure on these guys. We will see how they handle hopefully.
Jeff R
September 27th, 2012
11:53 am
I don’t disagree with this, but when was the last time you saw a contender fronting its rotation with three pre-arb-eligible guys, LOL?
I’m not sure that has anything to do with how those guys produce next season. Or maybe I’m misunderstanding?
Lew
September 27th, 2012
11:55 am
Thing is that until Delgado is traded, he hasn’t been traded – no matter what MLBTradeRunors says.
David O'Brien
September 27th, 2012
11:55 am
Sales soar for Chipper jerseys and other Braves gear
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/09/27/sales-soar-for-chipper-jerseys-and-braves-gear/
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
11:56 am
Not enough that you can site examples past a rumor that never came to fruition
What rumor are you talking about? The Delgado trade was blocked because Dempster didn’t approve it.
Jeff R
September 27th, 2012
11:57 am
Sales soar for Chipper jerseys and other Braves gear
Now we need to see more rears in the seats at Turner!
Frankie
September 27th, 2012
11:57 am
I give you guys credit looking ahead to next season and beyond. Have to say, farthest thing from my mind though. This is it, time to win is now. With the continuation of solid pitching all around, some timely hits and luck, this year can erase last year and next year if the team falls short. I can live with 4 hits in the playoffs, as long as they are big hits. Time is now, focus on present and GO BRAVES!
Jeff R
September 27th, 2012
11:59 am
Conceded. Wren attempted to trade Delgado to the Cubs for Dumpster. Dumpster said, “No.” (Thank goodness.)
Delgado remains a Brave. I don’t know what plans Wren has for him. But he could be in the Braves rotation next season. I wouldn’t be surprised.
George_George
September 27th, 2012
11:59 am
Good morning all
Hate to see HANSON go out there tonight , but guess FREDI has no one else. Hope if we get past play-in game he shortens rotation to 4 starters.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
12:00 pm
I’m not sure that has anything to do with how those guys produce next season. Or maybe I’m misunderstanding?
I’m only saying that the blog has an awful lot of faith in guys who don’t have an awful lot of track record. Minor has been fabulous for half a year, Medlen magnificent for about a third of a year, and Beachy has yet to even return from surgery. And Hudson will be 38 next year. Now, all those guys may continue to perform at a high level, and I might even call it likely that they will, but I don’t take it as a given as much as some here seem to.
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
12:02 pm
I’m not sure that has anything to do with how those guys produce next season.
What’s magically going to happen to make them produce next season? Delgado has been up and down over the last 2 seasons, Teheran seemed to degress, Minor has a very small sample size of success, Hudson has been more inconsistant this season than past and won’t be getting any younger, Beachy is recovering from TJ surgery.
Jeff R
September 27th, 2012
12:02 pm
Frankie, you’re right. But a little slow on the Braves front today. Kinda sum it up: Beat the Fish and hope that the Phils beat the Nats. Hope Hanson pitches well tonight to help make the former happen.
One game at a time!
George_George
September 27th, 2012
12:04 pm
Got the MIL @ REDS game on. FRAZIER for ROY.
DAP
September 27th, 2012
12:04 pm
efrim A middle of the order of Heyward, Freeman, Uggla, McCann LH banger for LF is just simply not going to be that great vs. LHP
fine. as i was saying, if what we are really looking for is a guy to hit lefties, there are plenty of guys like that available. cody ross, jonny gomes, scott hairston, reed johnson, delmon young, ryan ludwick, all outfielders who crush lefties, and are free agents. if thats what we want, we can get that, no prob.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
12:05 pm
Delgado was traded for Dempster. MLBTraderumors pulled articles from credible sources and the Cubs were ecstatic with the return they got for 2 months of Ryan. Given the needs in the outfield, I have a hard time seeing Delgado in this organization at the start of the 2013 season.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
12:05 pm
MLBTradeRumors, Mark Bowman, ESPN, many other baseball analysts… the deal was agreed upon by Frank Wren and Jed Hoyer. Dempster didn’t approve it, thank God.
And that is what happened when Frank was desperate. I’d rather him sign a FA pitcher and feel secure about our rotation that have him be in that situation again.
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
12:06 pm
Sorry ncscoots, I wouldn’t have posted my last commit had I seen your 12:00 specially since you say it more eloquently.
Lew
September 27th, 2012
12:06 pm
Delgado was not traded. Ken Griffey Jr. never played outfield for the Braves and Furcal spurned our offer and remained with LA – despite done deals.
A trade ain’t a trade if no one was traded.
Jeff R
September 27th, 2012
12:09 pm
What’s magically going to happen to make them produce next season? Delgado has been up and down over the last 2 seasons, Teheran seemed to degress, Minor has a very small sample size of success, Hudson has been more inconsistant this season than past and won’t be getting any younger, Beachy is recovering from TJ surgery.
How do I answer this?
The Braves have won 90 games and counting. Would this have anything to do with the strengths of the current pitching staff?
Delgado’s a kid. The expectation these days that pitchers are supposed to mature and produce at 21 amazes me.
Teheran did step back, but is still highly regarded. Not every prospect is going to follow a perfect trend line up.
Hudson’s pitched pretty darn good this season in my estimation. He is an older pitcher with an injury history. That is most certainly a concern. But he’s a disciplined athlete who works hard at his conditioning. I think Wren bets on Hudson to produce next season. Of course, we’ll see.
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
12:09 pm
Frank only mentioned 4 untouchables this past offseason.. and guess what? 1 of them are already gone, another one was shopped and yet another seemed to regress.
We traded Hoover, Redmond and Chapmen… I really don’t think Wren has an issue with trading SP prospect.. cause then again, they are prospects.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
12:10 pm
A trade ain’t a trade if no one was traded.
There was an agreement between the Cubs and Braves and placed in front of Ryan Dempster for approval – it was later found out that Dempster rejected the trade because he didn’t want to come to Atlanta for whatever reason. You’re in denial, Lew.
Frankie
September 27th, 2012
12:12 pm
Lew
September 27th, 2012
12:06 pm
“Delgado was not traded. Ken Griffey Jr. never played outfield for the Braves and Furcal spurned our offer and remained with LA – despite done deals.
A trade ain’t a trade if no one was traded.
”
Enough of that please. It was done for all practical purposes, it was never finalized. Quit denying though. Just like “not the Braves way” to trade young arms for rentals. Dempster refused and that’s the only reason he’s not a Brave. Lot of people here are happy it didn’t happen and that’s fine. I think the reversal will hurt their chances of getting to the World Series, that’s just a opinion.
Still a trade isn’t a trade if no was traded is just hogwash in this case.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
12:13 pm
It might not have been a “trade” Lew, but you can’t deny that Frank Wren agreed to trade Delgado for Dempster.
Lew
September 27th, 2012
12:14 pm
No – I’m NOT indenial. Is Dempster a Brave? No. Is Delgado still on our 40 man roster? Yes. Hence, there was no trade. We never got Barry Bonds from the Pirates, either.
The willingness to do something is only a done deal if you’re in a Philip K. Dick novel or movie like Minority Report. Y’all can go by MLBTR all you want, but I’ll wait until players actually change teams before I claim there was a trade.
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
12:14 pm
I think Wren bets on Hudson to produce next season
Yeah, I think there’s no doubt about that. I’d be completely surprised if we didn’t see Hudson, Medlen, Minor and Maholm in next years starting rotation. Although, I don’t see that rotation as strong as some of the other rotations around the league. Specially the Nats and Phils, and the bad news… they are both in our division, and the good news… there are 2 WC spots.
Frankie
September 27th, 2012
12:15 pm
“And that is what happened when Frank was desperate”
Respectfully disagree with this as well. I think he was anything but desperate. I believe he thought as the time this is a guy to get me over the hump and to the Big Dance. Time will tell to see how everything plays out.
Lew
September 27th, 2012
12:17 pm
OnlyBraves – And why should I give a FLying %$^* if the trade never happened?
We’re still not going to make appreciable changes to the pitching staff this winter. Like I said – wait until ST 2013 and then you can tell me I was right all along.
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
12:18 pm
Y’all can go by MLBTR
It went farther than just rumor jounalism. There was an agreement which is a definite indication that Wren isn’t against moving young pitching. He’s done it and will continue to do it if he thinks it will improve the major league team.
DAP
September 27th, 2012
12:18 pm
braves attendance is good again this year, which is good to see. being ranked 15th isnt anything to be ashamed of, and that number might go up, still.
turner field is so big, if the braves could average 80% capacity, they would easily rank top 5 in attendance, at about 1mil more fans than they have right now. it would take an average attendance of about 40,000. (yes, thats 80% capacity) for teams like philly, 40,000 is about 100% capacity.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
12:20 pm
Y’all can go by MLBTR all you want, but I’ll wait until players actually change teams before I claim there was a trade.
Denial. And you’re being really stubborn. This is not the first time a trade was agreed upon(yes, Wren agreed to trade the precious Randall Delgado to the Cubs for 2 months of Ryan Dempster) and a player rejected the trade because of their 10/5 rights or NTC. Doesn’t mean the two GM’s agreed on the value of the players to both their clubs for the players remaining control. Wren decided to trade near 6 years of Randall Delgado for 2 months of Ryan Dempster – so, with that said, and 2 holes in LF and CF for 2013 – I’m going to make the claim that Delgado will not be here in April of 2013. He’ll be with another organization, and hopefully, the player we get back is controlled for more than 2 months.
Frankie
September 27th, 2012
12:20 pm
“It went farther than just rumor jounalism. There was an agreement which is a definite indication that Wren isn’t against moving young pitching. He’s done it and will continue to do it if he thinks it will improve the major league team”
Exactamundo Fonzie.
Frankie
September 27th, 2012
12:22 pm
With that said, I really hope the Rangers and my boy Dempster get knocked out early.
abeeeewright
September 27th, 2012
12:24 pm
“The whole 4 hits thing was a little disturbing”
Josh Johnson.
Jeff R
September 27th, 2012
12:24 pm
I’m only saying that the blog has an awful lot of faith in guys who don’t have an awful lot of track record. Minor has been fabulous for half a year, Medlen magnificent for about a third of a year, and Beachy has yet to even return from surgery. And Hudson will be 38 next year. Now, all those guys may continue to perform at a high level, and I might even call it likely that they will, but I don’t take it as a given as much as some here seem to.
scoots, you’re right. It’s not a given. But a team develops talent, one presumes, principally to employ that talent on its major league team.
I have no reason not to have confidence in Minor and Medlen. They’re producing. Neither has a long track record of doing so, but pitchers have to start their careers. Those guys are off to pretty good starts.
And I’d say that adding a front line free agent pitcher is no guarantee that he’ll produce or not get injured.
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
12:26 pm
I’m going to make the claim that Delgado will not be here in April of 2013. He’ll be with another organization
I’m actually hoping your wrong with this projection. I’d much rather us move Maholm than Delgado in my opinion. I think he’s got much more value which is one of the reason unfortunately works against him not being traded. But I think in the long run, he’ll be a much better pitcher than Maholm and possibly could have a better year next year than him.
Murph
September 27th, 2012
12:28 pm
“The whole 4 hits thing was a little disturbing”
Josh Johnson
They’re going to have to get more than 4 hits against guys like (or better) than him in the playoffs if they are going to have any chance at winning the big enchilada.
Lew
September 27th, 2012
12:28 pm
Frankie – Maybe so – but how about we all wait and see what ACTUALLY does happen. I’d say that whatever willingness that anyone might have to make a deal, there are plenty of examples of deals that despite intentions never happened. Plenty of them. Again – a deal ain;t a deal until it’s a deal. None was made for Delgado.
And considering that we have no position players in the minors anyone thinks is worthy of trade for a mahjor piece in return, if Wren trades from the Farm System, it would of necessity be a pitcher.
But who has he traded to this point? Other than Vizcaino, who most thought wouldn’t be a starter anyway, who of signinficance has he actually traded that wasx destined for the Braves’ rotation? No one.
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
12:30 pm
And I’d say that adding a front line free agent pitcher is no guarantee that he’ll produce or not get injured.
Very true, but it’s playing the greater odds for success.
Lew
September 27th, 2012
12:32 pm
No, the greater odds for success would result from filling needs you truly HAVE (like fixing an inconsistent offense) and not on switching pieces around on parts that DID work.
Venice Jim
September 27th, 2012
12:32 pm
Fredi on 680…
Jeff R
September 27th, 2012
12:33 pm
And I’d say that adding a front line free agent pitcher is no guarantee that he’ll produce or not get injured.
Very true, but it’s playing the greater odds for success.
As long as he’s not another Derrick Lowe.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
12:35 pm
Again – a deal ain;t a deal until it’s a deal. None was made for Delgado.
Yep! And Furcal didn’t agree to sign with Atlanta. And I didn’t say that you’re in denial.
Jeff R
September 27th, 2012
12:37 pm
No, the greater odds for success would result from filling needs you truly HAVE (like fixing an inconsistent offense) and not on switching pieces around on parts that DID work.
This makes perfect sense. I guess we can assume failure where none now exists, and make changes on that assumption. Or deal with what the real problem is: namely, a under-performing offense.
Look, if the Braves ever get a bigger budget, then this becomes a different discussion. Less of an “either/or.” Less a competition for scarce dollars to meet needs – or wants.
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
12:37 pm
switching pieces around
Isn’t that what we did all season to the rotation? Hudson, Delgado, Minor, Beachy, Teheran, Maholm, Hanson, JJ.. etc.. etc..
Wren stated back in July he was looking for a starter to frontline this rotation. He tried and thought he had Demspter, he spoke to Boston about Lester, he spoke to the Brewers about Greinke but when he was unable to find that number 1 guy he turned to his next option, which happened to be Maholm. Here we are, still without that number 1 guy Wren so desperately looked to acquire. What makes you think his way of thinking has changed?
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
12:39 pm
like fixing an inconsistent offense
Then I ask you. What do you think made our offense inconsistent?
As long as he’s not another Derrick Lowe.
Just shoot me if that happens.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
12:42 pm
Might be Medlen, AT, though I hope not. Medlen’s good, but we can’t hope that he’s our #1 now.
Trader Jack
September 27th, 2012
12:47 pm
RIP – Herbert Lom
Better known as the frustrated and finally insane, Chief Inspector Dreyfus in the Pink Panther franchise
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
12:47 pm
TOBF, it very well might be Medlen but I’m not ready to gamble and find out either and then find out midseason we need someone only to have to trade chips to get one. Specially since we could find one this year and possibly do it through FA without having to trade assets.
Jeff R
September 27th, 2012
12:47 pm
Just shoot me if that happens.
Me, too.
DAP
September 27th, 2012
12:49 pm
murph They’re going to have to get more than 4 hits against guys like (or better) than him in the playoffs if they are going to have any chance at winning the big enchilada.
not if we score 3 runs on those 4 hits and our starter shuts the other team down.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
12:49 pm
Agree with your 12:47 AT
BlondAlto
September 27th, 2012
12:52 pm
Though I enjoyed this column, I don’t understand the comment about parking by permit only. What about the lots a couple of blocks away, where we normally LEGALLY park – in church parking lots, where guys wave you in and you pay them etc.?? Are those not available now or were you referring only to the lots right AT the stadium which I think always require a permit?
Capt.Mudd
September 27th, 2012
1:00 pm
@LegallyBlondAlto……………………………….You must purchase parking in advance for the area labelled Permit Parking…..you can do it on-line………and, when it gets good and full–a few ‘lots’ down the road charge $40.00 per car.
Sopheee
September 27th, 2012
1:05 pm
Just shoot me if that happens.
Bright side, we can make a new club!
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
1:06 pm
Less of an “either/or.”
I’m not of the mind that it’s “either/or”, though I’ve stated repeatedly (probably much too) that an offensive player is the priority that must be filled, before others should even be considered. Still, I can’t think that anyone would prefer Maholm, for example, to a Haren, for example, simply for the reason of maintaining continuity.
Half Empty
September 27th, 2012
1:06 pm
if you just want a righthander that kills lefties, cody ross is the perfect option. he has like a 1.000 OPS vs southpaws. if you want a guys who can just plain hit…well, dont limit your search to righthanders. DAP
not very many lefty hitters who are affordable and can just plain hit when it comes to lefty pitching and that is what we desperately need to get better against. Out record against them stinks and Uggla, whom we are stuck with, hits righties better than lefties too
BlondAlto
September 27th, 2012
1:08 pm
Thanks that was informative, Capt. Mudd! We normally pay $10-15, so $40 would indeed be inflation! See y’all at the games! : )
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
1:08 pm
Sopheee, as fun as a new club sounds.. well, I’d just assume not to go down that road again.
Brian from SC
September 27th, 2012
1:09 pm
I miss Matt Diaz.
abeeeewright
September 27th, 2012
1:10 pm
“They’re going to have to get more than 4 hits against guys like (or better) than him [Johnson] in the playoffs”
I beg to differ with your fundamental assumption. When Josh Johnson is “on,” he may be the best pitcher in the NL. I doubt that any team faces 3-4 “Josh Johnson’s” in a 5 or 7 game series.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
1:12 pm
I miss Matt Diaz.
Brian’s desperate attempt to move the conversation off the Winter Meetings, LOL.
Brian from SC
September 27th, 2012
1:16 pm
Someone said something about Cody Ross mashing lefties, and it made me think of Matty. He’s been my favorite Brave of the last few years.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
1:16 pm
TenneseePaul, was this you? Haha!
Eric (Atlanta)
I don’t care about WAR. Jason Heyward has a .338 OBP this season and that’s awful for a corner outfielder. He hasn’t improved upon his rookie year and it’s his 3rd year in the bigs. Next year is crucial – .300/.400/.500 or they need to trade him.
Klaw (1:13 PM)
Is this a joke? He’s 22. And very talented, with a history of greater patience than this.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
1:18 pm
Jayson Stark @jaysonst
One more thing on Chipper: In 5 years we’ll say the 2 greatest farewell seasons by a HOF were by him & Ted Williams http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8427136/the-many-amazing-feats-chipper-jones …
raleighbravefan
September 27th, 2012
1:18 pm
Number of buts ioin the seats X cost of those seats is what counts.
% of capacity is mostly irrelevant. Turner is one of the largest venues. Damn hard to sell out on a regular basis. However, they probably whould be doing 2.5 to 3 million, in spite of the often mentioned disadvantages.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
1:19 pm
Well, he’s actually 23, with one year of “history” in the bigs. Not to mention a re-built swing and different approach to hitting. But, hey, who’s counting?
abeeeewright
September 27th, 2012
1:19 pm
“Isn’t that what we did [rearranging the deck chairs] all season to the rotation? Hudson, Delgado, Minor, Beachy, Teheran, Maholm, Hanson, JJ.. etc.. etc..”
Delgado was never considered a part of the rotation. He was plugged in to cover for Hudson who started the season on the DL, due to an unexpected off-season surgery.
Beachy dropped out due to TJ … can’t foresee that.
Hanson and JJ were known risks to start the season, and they have played out that way. Minor was an unknown as a first time regular in the rotation.
Looking forward to next season, there is much more certainty …
Hudson, Maholm, Medlen, Beachy at mid-season, Minor.
Hanson strikes me as the only really unknown piece of the puzzle. Delgado and Teheran are unknowns as to their future contributions since they’re still developing. But they would not be considered part of the rotation to start the season.
Add a Greinke or Shields without giving up the “certains” and you have pretty good expectations out of your starting pitching. Sure, injuries and underperformances could affect that.
But, you cannot compare the start of 2012 with the start of 2013 in terms of how certain you are on the rotation.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
1:20 pm
Ineresting take from the reader I guess…
Adam (New York)
Re Cabrera v Trout: This offseason a bunch of people inside the game will compete to give Michael Bourn $75 million-plus, almost entirely for the value he contributes outside the batter’s box. Given the similar outside-the-batter’s-box value added from Trout, am I high on what Bourn will get or shouldn’t the “people inside the game know how valuable he is” arguments side with Trout over Cabrera?
Klaw (1:19 PM)
You notice those “people inside the game” are never named, right?
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
1:23 pm
Well, he’s actually 23, with one year of “history” in the bigs.
Wasn’t that six weeks ago? Still his age 22 year old season in my book.
Not to mention a re-built swing and different approach to hitting. But, hey, who’s counting?
That Heyward is all hype, scoots……
DAP
September 27th, 2012
1:23 pm
ralieghbravesfan,if the braves could get the % capacity to 74% for the year, it would be 3 million fans.
TennesseePaul
September 27th, 2012
1:26 pm
how much young pitching has he traded? Not enough that you can site examples past a rumor that never came to fruition and a guy with (what most people claimed) was closer potential
Frank Wren has traded young pitching. A lot of young pitching. And the Braves have also traded young pitching in the past.
—pre Wren notables—
Adam Wainwright
Matt Harrison
Horacio Ramirez
—Frank Wren—
Charlie Morton
Jeff Locke
JoJo Reyes
Brett Oberholtzer
Juan Abreu
Paul Clemens
Tim Collins
Greg Ross
Jaye Chapman
Arodys Vizcaino
JJ Hoover
Eliecer Cardenas
Boone Logan
Javier Vazquez
Jose Ascanio
Jeffrey Lorick
Robinson Lopez
Tyrelle Harris
Rafael Soriano
Nelson Payano
Jamie Richmond
Joey Devine
Oscar Villarreal
There could be more that I’ve missed. Practically every deal Wren makes he includes a pitcher. And of course, Mark Bowman, everyone at ESPN, everyone at FOX, everyone at Sports Illustrated, and everyone else discovered that Wren had traded Randal Delgado pending approval from Dempster. So, had Dempster said “yes”, Delgado would have been gone. But fortunately for Braves fans every where, that horrid deal was nixed by Dempster.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
1:29 pm
Keith is so funny. He’s better than FOX News.
Brian Kenney, he of MLBN and the basically indecipherable motor-mouth speech patterns, wrote an aritcle in which he called his fellow MLBN analysts who chose not to declare Mike Trout an MVP no-brainer, “lazy”. Now, it’s one thing to unleash misplaced condescension on anonymous dinosaur fans, but to do it to your colleagues? In print, fercrissake? Does this seem a reasonable way to further the discussion, or more my-way-or-the-highway idiocy? I ask ya.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
1:29 pm
But fortunately for Braves fans every where, that horrid deal was nixed by Dempster.
Just a really bad deal.
Brava
September 27th, 2012
1:30 pm
No need to tell Tommy to “Go to hell” as one poster previously said about another player. I’m not that bad.
Are you really still harping on this, TOBF? Despite the fact that you seem to top the list of most frequent posters almost every day, you are quite boring to read. Once one removes your obsession with this one post I made, your hatred of Tommy Hanson and your love for Greinke and Pastornicky, there isn’t much left.
Grow up.
Puma
September 27th, 2012
1:34 pm
TennPaul – although I agree with you, your list includes many pre-Wren trades and most I would not consider young pitching. However, I agree he is willing to trade young pitching if the deal is right.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
1:35 pm
Does this seem a reasonable way to further the discussion, or more my-way-or-the-highway idiocy? I ask ya.
You have to start reading more Murray Chass or listening to sports talk radio. The other side is pretty harsh too. Jon Heyman – please listen to him for 5 minutes and it will make your brain ooze out of your ear, I promise my car to you that his misplaced condescension will bring you there.
TennesseePaul
September 27th, 2012
1:36 pm
TenneseePaul, was this you?
No. While I’m not a slave to WAR, I wouldn’t say I don’t care about it. I just despise people who go straight to it when discussing MVP. If one finds it inane that a voter simply looks at RBI and votes, I find it equally inane that a person could look only at WAR and vote. I’m sure the creators of WAR had their hearts in the right place, but it still has flaws and shouldn’t be used as an end all be all stat.
But, a .338 OBP is pretty weak from Heyward and I’m a bit bummed to see he didn’t have an OPS over .850. He had a super hot June, but the rest of the season he hit .256/.331/.452/.783. I’m really hoping he slides into his monster bat this October and holds onto it for the rest of his career.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
1:36 pm
although I agree with you, your list includes many pre-Wren trades
No, only three names were traded by JS. All others by Wren I believe.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
1:37 pm
That Heyward is all hype, scoots……
But here’s the thing…the guy making the initial post was a complete fool, yes, but Law completely disregards the interregnum that was Heyward’s sophomore season and even disregards the changes in Heyward himself this season. Both sides of the Q&A were quite laughable.
Capt.Mudd
September 27th, 2012
1:37 pm
@Brava………….”Grow up”
Good advice….one must never grow down!
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
1:40 pm
You have to start reading more Murray Chass or listening to sports talk radio. The other side is pretty harsh too. Jon Heyman – please listen to him for 5 minutes and it will make your brain ooze out of your ear,
Man, I don’t deny that. Stupid is not the exclusive province of Brian Kenney. I would say that Kenney’s attitude is more pervasive among the sabercentric set than Chass’s is among even dinosaurs.
HooRah
September 27th, 2012
1:40 pm
why would we care that Wren traded most any of those players?
and when did he trade Vazquez, he traded for Vazquez
Trader Jack
September 27th, 2012
1:40 pm
Is anyone having trouble not only connecting to the AJC web site, but very slow response times to other sites?
chipontheroad
September 27th, 2012
1:41 pm
Bravissimo Brava
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
1:44 pm
But, a .338 OBP is pretty weak from Heyward and I’m a bit bummed to see he didn’t have an OPS over .850
I think I pegged him at having an .810 prior to the season and would of been happy with an .830. The sub-.350 OBP bothers me. I know he was working on things and found his new swing and loved to murder the baseball, but I didn’t see a great approach these last 40 games with no real adjustments made. I guess that brought me down a bit.
On August 26th, the kid was hitting .862 with an On Base of like .353 and all was right in the Heyward world. Then, DOB wrote a blog about him after the 3 consecutive HR games vs. San Fran with that great swing off of Bumgarner and he’s hit a wall since. Some bad luck, for sure – but over aggressive plate appearances. K’s might of been screwing with him head, as he has struck out a lot less as of late.
HooRah
September 27th, 2012
1:44 pm
guess Brian grew side to side
Capt.Mudd
September 27th, 2012
1:48 pm
@ncscoots…….I think the words ‘laudable’ and ‘laughable’ many times, are misunderstood; people are in denial…..while being interregnumly led…….except, of course, the reigning ncscoots!
HooRah
September 27th, 2012
1:48 pm
yes the refresh seems even slower than usual to me so far today, and it is never fast anymore
Bat Masterson
September 27th, 2012
1:49 pm
TOBF @ 1:18
Good read, thanks for the link.
raleighbravefan
September 27th, 2012
1:54 pm
scoots @1:06 – I don’t think anyone would prefer Maholm to Haren…for any reason. My point was how to make best use of our limited resources, in light of our most pressing needs. I’s be happy for Wren to do it all, if there were resouces to do so. I consider starting rotation only our second priority, and changes will be expensive, either in $$$ or prospect or both.
Puma
September 27th, 2012
1:55 pm
Vasquez to Yankees for Vizcaino
TennesseePaul
September 27th, 2012
1:57 pm
your list includes many pre-Wren trades and most I would not consider young pitching
All the ones listed as Wren trades were wren, which was all but the first three.
The majority of the pictures traded were young minor leaguers.
DAP
September 27th, 2012
1:59 pm
this is a cool baseball story: http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Guilford-Native-Gets-Second-Chance-at-MLB-171511741.html?dr
TennesseePaul
September 27th, 2012
2:01 pm
when did he trade Vazquez, he traded for Vazquez
Wait. Really? Have you been following the Braves more than this year? He traded Vazquez for Mike Dunn, Arodys and Melky in 2009.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
2:01 pm
Nick (NY)
Do you see Bourjos starting somewhere next year? It’s a complete waste of exceptional defense (to say nothing of decent offensive talent) to have a repeat of this year right?
Klaw (1:55 PM)
Agreed. Untapped value for the Angels.
Wouldn’t mind getting him, esp. if we get a good LF and a SP. I mean, we’ve done pretty well this 2nd half even with Bourn hitting .230
David O'Brien
September 27th, 2012
2:02 pm
Kimbrel’s past 49 appearances: 0.55 ERA and .103 opponents’ average, allowing 17 hits and three runs (on three homers) with six walks and 92 strikeouts in 49-1/3 innings.
TennesseePaul
September 27th, 2012
2:02 pm
Which adds Santos Rodriguez to the list of young pitchers Wren has traded.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
2:06 pm
Kimbrel’s past 49 appearances
Poor Kimbrel. I don’t even gape, slack-jawed, at those Nintendo numbers, anymore. They’re so unbelieveable that I don’t think they even register.
TennesseePaul
September 27th, 2012
2:08 pm
They’re so unbelieveable that I don’t think they even register.
After EOF’s 2011 I didn’t think another reliever would post an historic season, then Kimbrel took the mound.
Puma
September 27th, 2012
2:08 pm
I stand corrected Tenn Paul – off the top of my head it seemed like Devine, Soriano and Villereal were pre-Wren, but I looked them up.
Puma
September 27th, 2012
2:10 pm
Kimbrel is a victim of his own success, anything less than what he is doing will be disappointing to fans going forward. We now expect perfection from him at all times.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
2:11 pm
After EOF’s 2011 I didn’t think another reliever would post an historic season, then Kimbrel took the mound.
Yeah, how many more years do we think we can keep getting all-universe performance from those guys? Venters’ turn to get back to form next year, I guess. Probably give up two runs in 68 appearances or something.
DS1
September 27th, 2012
2:14 pm
I’m a little surprised that Kimbrel is not getting more support for the Cy Young on a national level. Gio and RA have had very good years, but what Kimbrel has done is near epic.
FEAR
September 27th, 2012
2:16 pm
Do we still not have a game time for the one game playoff?
Puma
September 27th, 2012
2:17 pm
I wonder who the scout was who recommended the Braves pick up O”Flaherty off waivers. Its amazing how much better he got once in Atlanta. I hope they gave that guy a big bonus (the scout)
DS1
September 27th, 2012
2:17 pm
Whassupp scoots? (I caught that dig at me on the Fox News remark!)
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
2:18 pm
We now expect perfection from him at all times.
And Medlen. Merely human performance from those two in the future will probably get them burned at the stake here, LOL.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
2:20 pm
Whassupp scoots? (I caught that dig at me on the Fox News remark!)
MSNBC is just a shill for the Democrats.
that better?
Murph
September 27th, 2012
2:20 pm
92 strikeouts in 49-1/3 innings
My math-deficient brain cannot comprehend this. I think that’s something like 12 strikeouts per inning.
Impressive!
Lee in S GA
September 27th, 2012
2:22 pm
I hope the Braves at least put Constanza on team roster for the 1 W.C. playoff game. Last night was an example of how a stolen base and speed can get you 1 run. And I can see a more of a 2-1 or 3-1 type scoring affair than a high scoring game…NO matter who we play. If the Braves score a tone of runs I don’t see what harm it could cause to have him for that game anyway. Kinda a win-win situation.
DS1
September 27th, 2012
2:25 pm
scoots
If I turn on the mute, I really enjoy MSNBC. Especially Rachel Maddow!!
Frankie
September 27th, 2012
2:28 pm
“But fortunately for Braves fans every where, that horrid deal was nixed by Dempster.
Just a really bad deal.”
Not sure I understand the backlash on this proposed trade at all. Absolutely a short term deal and playing for today I get. Still if Dempster agreed to be a Brave are you not a little more confident if you get by a playin with this guy? Minor has been really solid but no way, no how Dempster doesn’t get the ball for Game 2 ahead of Minor. He may pitch well, or lose his donuts on the pitching mound before pitch one in starting Game 2. Dempster would be perfect this season and very well could be the piece that got you to the WS. I don’t feel that way with Paul Malholm pitching a game in the NLCS. We will see. If Dempster has the rock and leads the Rangers to the WS going to be tough to take.
TennesseePaul
September 27th, 2012
2:31 pm
If Dempster has the rock and leads the Rangers to the WS going to be tough to take.
You tip your cap to ‘em. But it doesn’t change the fact that the proposed deal was horrid.
Frankie
September 27th, 2012
2:33 pm
‘You tip your cap to ‘em. But it doesn’t change the fact that the proposed deal was horrid.’
In your opinion.
Puma
September 27th, 2012
2:39 pm
That Dempster deal wasn’t horrid, but I am happy that things ended up as they did. I agree with Frankie’s comments about Dempster pitching game 2 in NLDS if he played for us. Maholm probably pitches Game 4 if we are up 2-1, but I bet its Huddy if we are down 1-2. I think Maholm has been pretty solid since we got him, I don’t think he gets the props he deserves, looked pretty good last night, after first two innings that is.
DS1
September 27th, 2012
2:44 pm
I liked the Dempster deal OK, but I was also talking about Maholm and Johnson or Baker before the deal was made (looks like I got all 3 of my wish).
And I don’t think it was horrid four shore.
DS1
September 27th, 2012
2:49 pm
Puma
Maholm seems to run hot and cold. But he’s a good arm for the 3rd/4th slot. Normally keeps you in the game. But agree Dempster is more of a big game starter than Maholm.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
2:49 pm
I’m not completely against trading a prospect for a short term rental – but that rental better be more than 36 year old Ryan Dempster….
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
2:52 pm
Speaking of “big game starter”, I’m nominating Tyler Cloyd as my Pick To Click tonight, LOL. Sic ‘em, rookie!
Venice Jim
September 27th, 2012
2:56 pm
leveland Indians @Indians
Manny Acta will not return as Manager in 2013. Sandy Alomar will be Interim Manager the last 6 games of the season
DS1
September 27th, 2012
2:56 pm
Not to be a stickler, but Dempster is 35, and he was averaging 6.5 innings per outing with a low 2’s ERA before the trade.
I’d want someone who was rockin it THIS year. And unless he was on a noticeable down hill slide, I wouldn’t care how old he was if he was just a rental.
Just sayin…..
I think a lot of us were a little put out when he didn’t jump at the chance to come to Atlanta. And that my be clouding our judgment a tad bit???
Venice Jim
September 27th, 2012
2:56 pm
C
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
2:56 pm
Delgado for Greinke? Might not have been so against that.
Manny Acta fired in Cleveland.
DS1
September 27th, 2012
2:57 pm
Gotta love a guy named Cloyd!
Puma
September 27th, 2012
2:57 pm
Braves have a pretty good history when it comes to the young arms they have traded away, with the obvious exceptions of Wainwright (although a lot of injuries there) and N. Perez and Harrison in Teixeira trade.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
2:58 pm
Good to see David Wright have a big few games. Up to .309/.393/.499 on the year.
Man, I’d love to see him hitting between Heyward and Freeman.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
2:59 pm
And yes, I am totally rooting hard for R.A. Dickey to win #20 today!!!
First knuckler to win a Cy Young award. Good for him.
DS1
September 27th, 2012
3:02 pm
Amen on David Wright!!
What would it take to get him in an “A” cap?
Prado, Bethancourt, Teheran and more?
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
3:02 pm
“Managerial changes are never easy or taken lightly, but as we approached the end of the season and turned our attention to assessing the year, we determined a change was necessary,” GM Chris Antonetti said in a statement.
Shapiro and Antonetti should be given their walking papers. I know they fell on hard luck and players left and some came up lame with injuries. But how do you explain the utter lack of pitching talent throughout the entire organization? Same with Minnesota and Colorado. Terrible drafts for near 6 straight years.
The Axe to all of em.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
3:02 pm
In case y’all missed it… MLB Network @MLBNetwork
The @SFGiants have announced that Melky Cabrera will not play in any #postseason games. #TheRundown is live w/complete coverage.
Good. He didn’t deserve PS play.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
3:05 pm
Efrim is a tough room, people. Don’t get on his bad side.
DS1
September 27th, 2012
3:07 pm
Who’s going to take a flier on Melky next year? And how much of his performance increase was due to the PED’s and how much to getting in shape/losing weight? (or are they linked?)
If he wasn’t such a turd, I’d bring him back for a LF tryout.
Puma
September 27th, 2012
3:08 pm
I can’t believe Melky was even eligible to play in postseason. Giants don’t want him playing unless he’s juiced anyway.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
3:09 pm
6 BB, 92 K , 49-1/3 IP.
I mean, come on…a K/BB ration of 15? Seriously?
DS1
September 27th, 2012
3:09 pm
Efrim ain’t so tough! Wait till he’s been married 30+ years. THEN we’ll see how tough he really is!
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
3:10 pm
Efrim is a tough room, people. Don’t get on his bad side
You know me, scoots……hard times aren’t easy – but every year there is a draft and every year a team has a chance to plug in talent to their system. No system should be as bad as Colorado, Cleveland and Minny’s for as bad as they have been the last couple years. Change that draft strategy.
I mean, I don’t love Huntington, and those were relatively easy calls, but at least he made the ones he should of made in the Top 10. There are some teams that refuse to do this for some insane reason.
jeffrey d
September 27th, 2012
3:10 pm
They couldn’t let Manny coach 6 more games?
DS1
September 27th, 2012
3:11 pm
scoots
Should definitely be in the Cy Young consideration. And a lot of national folks aren’t giving him much play.
DS1
September 27th, 2012
3:12 pm
jeffrey
Probably some behind the scene’s conversations that went too far………. Some times it’s just better to cut and run.
DS1
September 27th, 2012
3:13 pm
I have always liked Manny A…….
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
3:15 pm
They couldn’t let Manny coach 6 more games?
Sometimes, an exiting manager has the choice of departure dates and picks “today”.
John Leonard
September 27th, 2012
3:16 pm
We have one of the best pitching staffs in the NL,next year we will need two to replace Chipper and Bourn,and what if Mac does’nt come back?I don’t see the need for more pitching when we have so many more needs.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
3:17 pm
Dickey has been so good this year. Like, really, really good. I have to give it to him. Man’s been a horse. Kimbrel would probably be #2 or #3 for me, though. Cueto being the other.
Venice Jim
September 27th, 2012
3:17 pm
Atlanta Braves @Braves
Tonight’s lineup vs. MIA (7:10, SPSO/680AM/BRN): Constanza 8 Prado 7 Heyward 9 Jones 5 Freeman 3 Uggla 4 Ross 2 Simmons 6 Hanson 1
David O'Brien
September 27th, 2012
3:18 pm
Great Chipper story by J. Stark: http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8427136/the-many-amazing-feats-chipper-jones
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
3:18 pm
Tad concerning that Bourn is out of the lineup – again. Really hope he can get in the following 6 games.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
3:20 pm
Dickey has thrown 111 pitches through 7 IP and is staying in the game. 11 K’s through 7 innings.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
3:20 pm
Geez, did a coyote chew off Bourn’s whole dang hand? Splint that *****, and get in there.
DS1
September 27th, 2012
3:21 pm
Advice a friend gave to the Alaskan woman who fell 60 feet down a rocky, ocean side cliff while texting:
“Lesson learned — don’t leave the gate open, don’t text message and smoke cigarettes on a slippery bluff with a long drop to the rocks.”
Frankie
September 27th, 2012
3:22 pm
“Not to be a stickler, but Dempster is 35, and he was averaging 6.5 innings per outing with a low 2’s ERA before the trade.
I’d want someone who was rockin it THIS year. And unless he was on a noticeable down hill slide, I wouldn’t care how old he was if he was just a rental.
Just sayin…..
I think a lot of us were a little put out when he didn’t jump at the chance to come to Atlanta. And that my be clouding our judgment a tad bit???”
That was my stance the whole time. You have him for 2 months which suxs but if he pitches like he has(too many here thought career year and really wasn’t) can go far in the playoffs. Age means nothing if you get to WS this season. Dunno. Maybe Delgado becomes outstanding although doubtful. If we trade Delgado, make it a piece that can help you to a Series and not just to make the team a little better.
Yogi got to give to get sometimes.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
3:23 pm
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
#Braves lineup. Constanza CF Prado LF Heyward RF Jones 3B Freeman 1B uggla 2B Ross C Simmons SS Hanson P
No Bourn, but Constanza… No like. Why was the u in Uggla written small? LOL He’s hitting, no need to try to hide his name! Ross instead of BMac, might help the SB threat, but I hope Mac’s alright… took a few awkward swings yesterday.
David O'Brien
September 27th, 2012
3:24 pm
Braves lineup: Constanza CF, Prado LF, Heyward RF, Jones 3B, Freeman 1B, uggla 2B, Ross C, Simmons SS, Hanson P
DS1
September 27th, 2012
3:24 pm
Efrim
Yes, you could make a case for Dickey, Cueto and Gonzalez. But I still think Kimbrel’s year far exceeds that those guys have done. But maybe it’s the “homer” in me that thinks this way.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
3:26 pm
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
dismissing acta w/ a few games left gives #Indians people a chance to see alomar jr. in action. heavy favorite to get job.
See him in action over 6 games? Makes no sense.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
3:27 pm
Wayne, I just think the amount of innings a guy throws matters. I do love that all of Kimbrel’s are high leverage, and that’s why he’s #2 in my book. But R.A. has been the best starter in the league practically all season and I think he has the edge over Craig.
John Leonard
September 27th, 2012
3:30 pm
Frankie:Who would Dumpster replace?other then Hanson who should’nt be in there.Paul had a better record with the Cubs,and comparing same defense same offense and same teams against,that would od even been a bad trade for JJ because of the salary we would of picked up.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
3:30 pm
I’ll repeat myself for the 100th time, but the Mets are in a better spot than most think with that pitching staff next year. Dickey, Niese, Harvey, Santana, Gee, McHugh, Wheeler – lots of options. They just need a bullpen and an entire outfield…..and a catcher…..that’s all.
raleighbravefan
September 27th, 2012
3:30 pm
Pretty good lineup tonight. I hope Tommy doesn’t blow up. He should be on a short leash, beginning with 4th inning.
DAP
September 27th, 2012
3:31 pm
no bourn? no problem. hes slumping and hurting. get him ready for the WC game.
John Leonard
September 27th, 2012
3:33 pm
Should of been “of” not od.did not check before posting.Good excuse as any.
DS1
September 27th, 2012
3:33 pm
Efrim: Like I said, you can make a case for all 4 guys.
Baseball Movie Trivia (the Uggla steal of home got me thinking)
Benny “The Jet” Rodriquez from “The Sandlot”, was played by actor Mike Vitar. His older brother Pablo played the older version of Benny that stole home as a Dodger in the end of the movie. Unfortunately, Pablo succumbed to cancer a few years ago.
David O'Brien
September 27th, 2012
3:33 pm
Good story in Creative Loafing by Max Blau, who did an oral history of Chipper by talking to about 20 folks, many of them (including me) at length:
http://clatl.com/gyrobase/chipper-jones-an-oral-history/Content?oid=6473900&showFullText=true
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
3:34 pm
Braves have kept the Fish pretty quiet this series, and Hanson despite allowing all those hits and stolen bases has done pretty decently (ERA around 2.00, I believe, in 2 starts 10 IP).
6 IP, 1 or 2 ER. 7 Ks. Come on Tommy, I believe in ya. You need a good start, and I want to you succeed.
DS1
September 27th, 2012
3:34 pm
A bullpen, an outfield and a catcher? No problem!
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
3:35 pm
get him ready for the WC game.
Riding pine only gets you ready for the rocking chair.
abeeeewright
September 27th, 2012
3:35 pm
I’ll wait til the end of the season, but, Kimbrel’s numbers are historic. Sometimes you have to consider a reliever for Cy Young. This would be the time.
Dickey, Gonzalez, and Cueto are wandering into 20 wins (maybe 21) with good ERAs. But, relative to the recent past, none of them look amazing.
I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a closer as dominating as Kimbrel is right now. And that’s considering Smoltzie’s ridiculous run, Gagne’s back-to-back ridiculous seasons, and Chapman’s 100+ mph heat.
When the kid is on, like last night, you figure he could intentionally walk the bases loaded and not give up a run. When he’s off, unless he gives up a dinger, the other team still has to sweat and bleed to push one run across.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
3:36 pm
Stark-on-Chipper was pretty good. Thanks for that link, David. I go over to ESPN so seldom anymore, I might have missed it.
DS1
September 27th, 2012
3:38 pm
scoots
You’re spending WAY too much time over on Fox News!
PDOG
September 27th, 2012
3:39 pm
Braves are going to win 93 or 94 games this year but people here on the blog are still looking to make stupid trades for next year. I say offer Bourne 14 million a year for 5 years if he says no then go after Cain from KC, should be able to get him for Hanson, Malhom and maybe another small piece. Then take the 30 million or so that is left and tie up the good young players that the Braves already have. I don’t know about anyone else but I get alot of enjoyment watching the young guys come up through the system and do well. I would rather keep are own young players and give more a chance then signing over the hill free agents. Would love to see the braves lock up Prado,Heyward,Freeman and Kimbrell for the next 5 years and give Tehran, Delgado, Gattis and Cunningham a shot then throw a bunch of money at two or three free agents.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
3:44 pm
Ryan Howard has hit .223/.296/.430, 93 OPS+ this year with 96 K’s in 287 plate appearances, 69 games.
He is owed $105 million dollars over the next four seasons through 2016.
He will play next year as a 33 year old…..
Bravesfan1984
September 27th, 2012
3:45 pm
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/michael-bourns-market-value/
O.M.G.
September 27th, 2012
3:46 pm
Murph–92 strikeouts in 49-1/3 innings
My math-deficient brain cannot comprehend this. I think that’s something like 12 strikeouts per inning.
Impressive!
Try 1.86 K’s per inning, still impressive.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
3:47 pm
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
R.A. Dickey now the frontrunner for the NL Cy Young Award, IMO. But Gio still to pitch for No. 21, and there will be a Kimbrel faction.
Kimbrel! Kimbrel!
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
3:49 pm
Going forward, I’d probably project Bourn as a +3 to +4 win player, which is generally worth $15 to $20 million per year. But, even though he’s younger than Josh Hamilton or Nick Swisher, I’d be very uncomfortable going more than three years for Bourn. It isn’t just about what he’ll be in a few years – it’s about the potential risk if it all goes south real quick.
My guess is that someone will go five years for Bourn, and he’ll end up with a contract for between $75 and $100 million. Given his contact issues and the amount of his value that’s tied to his defense and baserunning, though, I don’t think I’d go beyond three years, and probably top out at $50-$60 million total. He’s going to get more than that, but I don’t know that I’d bet on him being worth more than that going forward. – Dave Cameron
I agree completely that he’s getting five years, and at least 15 million. Someone(Phillies, Nationals, Giants, Rangers) isn’t going to care about the red flags and just offer it up. They are in a better position to do this than the Braves are. No sense for Atlanta to even get deep into negotiations with Bourn and Boras. Qualifying offer and see you later.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
3:51 pm
And that’s considering Smoltzie’s ridiculous run
I remember Smoltz was just absolutely lethal, and he had so many ways to come at you, it was just totally unfair. Kimbrel, though, just seems almost elemental. A force of nature. The two pitches, that’s it. You gear up for the gas, he throws the gas, and you still can’t hit it. You gear up for the gas, he throws the slider, and even your mama’s embarassed by the swing. It’s like arm-wrestling with The Hulk: “Oh, you want to try the other arm? Sure, put it up there.” Wham!
The numbers are just stupid, and the eye test says “Hey, maybe they’re not just making this bleep up.” So, maybe he does deserve the Cy. Maybe it’s the most dominating year by a relief pitcher, ever. Dunno. Pretty frickin’ good, though, and that’s a fact.
MiaBchBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
3:55 pm
PDOG: with all due respect, Bourn is not worth signing. His failures in consecutive Septembers makes him the kind of player I do not want playing in Atlanta. Save the money, and allow Mr. Bourn to be someone else’s overpaid September headache.. or thumb sprain.
MiaBchBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
3:55 pm
PDOG: with all due respect, Bourn is not worth signing. His failures in consecutive Septembers makes him the kind of player I do not want playing in Atlanta. Save the money, and allow Mr. Bourn to be someone else’s overpaid September headache.. or thumb sprain.
MiaBchBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
3:55 pm
PDOG: with all due respect, Bourn is not worth signing. His failures in consecutive Septembers makes him the kind of player I do not want playing in Atlanta. Save the money, and allow Mr. Bourn to be someone else’s overpaid September headache.. or thumb sprain.
MiaBchBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
3:55 pm
PDOG: with all due respect, Bourn is not worth signing. His failures in consecutive Septembers makes him the kind of player I do not want playing in Atlanta. Save the money, and allow Mr. Bourn to be someone else’s overpaid September headache.. or thumb sprain.
MiaBchBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
3:56 pm
Did not mean to do that, stupid server.
DS1
September 27th, 2012
4:00 pm
Miami Beach bringing it strong!!
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
4:01 pm
“I don’t know … the fact that he’s playing at age 40 and producing the way he is pretty much tells me to shut the hell up.”
Strong quote, ‘OB. Me like.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
4:04 pm
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
Bourn is encouraged with the progress of his thumb. But he will <b<miss at least another day or two
That’s what they said when he first got hurt…
DK
September 27th, 2012
4:06 pm
PDOG
Your 3:39 post gets my post of month vote.
monty
September 27th, 2012
4:08 pm
I’ve never really liked the idea of giving the CY Young to a reliver, until now!
MiaBchBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
4:08 pm
Frankly, I would much rather have Costanza playing CF next year and hitting 8th, maybe re-sign R. Johnson as a backup, and divert the saved dollars off not signing Bourn, Chipper retired, not offering JJ arb., getting rid of Hanson via trade, and the $10 Mil Lowe Debacle…
And signing/trading for a LEGIT RH LF power-&-average bat. More money could be saved by not offering BMac the $12 mil next year and signing Russell Martin (FA) for two years at a fraction of the cost, along with Rossy. Catcher is not a position I would spend big money on if I were GM.
If we get a legit MVP RH LF bat for next year, Heyward, Freeman, & Uggla will blossom because two of those players are not yet ready to carry a team, and the 2B never will. We can then place Prado at 3B and have Francisco as a bench bat.
1. Simmons
2. Prado
3. Heyward
4. RH MVP bat
5. Freeman
6. Uggla
7. Ross/Martin
8. Costanza
9. SP
That is not a lineup to sneeze at. And all it takes is ONE player.
DAP
September 27th, 2012
4:08 pm
scoots Riding pine only gets you ready for the rocking chair.
in this case, it lets bourn’s thumb heal. get him back in there by the pirates series, and he’ll be fine.
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
4:12 pm
I’d keep Bourn out for the next few games, absolutely no reason to run him out there before he’s truly healed up. He’s been anchor on offense anyways.. give him some rest so he’ll be ready to go in the post season.
monty
September 27th, 2012
4:13 pm
Not sure why Dempster would be lights out in the playoffs with his 4.5 ERA second half of the year. Unless you just have him as a fan fave.
PDOG
September 27th, 2012
4:13 pm
I do agree about Bourne but if you don’t sign him who are you going to get to play CF? I mentioned Cain but after that I don’t really see anyone else worth it. Hamilton will be out of the Braves price range and Vizcaiano is already 32 years old, I would not invest more then a year or two on him. Maybe you can make a deal for Ellsbury if the Sox decide to blow the whole thing up and start over.
flange1
September 27th, 2012
4:14 pm
Great speech MiaBch, but name the RH LF masher.
MiaBchBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
4:14 pm
AK Transplant: I wholeheartedly agree.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
4:16 pm
And signing/trading for a LEGIT RH LF power-&-average bat.
Who? No free agent fits this description, and Willingham will be hard to trade for
chipontheroad
September 27th, 2012
4:17 pm
thnx for the links D O’B et al
cricket
September 27th, 2012
4:17 pm
so many moves suggested here for players and no one suggested extending 2012 manager of year candidate Fredi?
Fall of George
September 27th, 2012
4:18 pm
Noone has reported it, but the Braves magic number for clinching the 1st wild card position is 1. One win by Braves or one loss by St. Louis.
Of course we want St. Louis to sweep Washington this weekend. We know they’re gonna try, because they haven’t clinched a playoff spot yet.
monty
September 27th, 2012
4:18 pm
Bernadina
Prado
Heyward
Willingham
Freeman
Uggla
McCann
Simmons
WS here we come!
Fall of George
September 27th, 2012
4:22 pm
Go Braves and Go Phillies tonight!
MiaBchBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
4:25 pm
flange1: honestly, I have not researched that. That said, I am scared to allow “Bird-Brain” wren the chance to make that selection. IMO, it is the most important and most fiscally prudent move the Braves can make w/o driving themselves into fiscal ruin.
Maybe 1-2 season of such a bat until either Terd or Gattis are ready to roll, if ever.
In the meantime, a team starved for pitching, who might have such a bat, would be willing to part with such a player. Delgado, Teheran, Gilmartin, and Minor are untouchables in such a scenario.
OR!
With Chipper retired, allow Gattis to catch with Ross and Terd to play LF, insert Delgado & Teheran in the rotation, and allow the Youth Movement to begin! As PDOG said earlier, ya gotta save the BIG scratch to sign the likes of Heyward, Freeman, Minor, Prado, Kimbrel, et. al., down the road.
Puma
September 27th, 2012
4:30 pm
Its sounds like an easy thing to get a RH LF who can hit for power, but man it just isn’t or we would have gotten him a long time ago.
kenhotlanta
September 27th, 2012
4:31 pm
I just watched the first 2 episodes of Boardwalk Empire. I thought they jumped the shark last year by killing off Jimmy, but instead, they are off to a strong start for the new season.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
4:36 pm
Its sounds like an easy thing to get a RH LF who can hit for power, but man it just isn’t or we would have gotten him a long time ago.
Absolutely true. If it happens, folks here are either going to scream about the trade cost or scream that the player isn’t high-caliber enough. Or both.
Real RH power is at a premium in the game right now, that’s just a fact of life.
MikeInFl
September 27th, 2012
4:36 pm
Only problem I have with voting for Kimbrel for CYA is the way he is used (which of course is not his fault). The relievers who’ve won the award were all from a slightly (or much) less specialized era, and would actually come into games and “put out a fire.”
In ‘92 when Eckersly won, he entered the game with men on base at least 20 times. Of the 31 base runners he inherited that year, only 2 scored.
Kimbrel has started each appearance (except one?) with none on, none out. The “inherited runners/scored” statistic is practically not even applicable to him – he’s inherited 9 base runners in his entire career.
Not an indictment of Kimbrel… just don’t think a pitcher used that way should win the Cy.
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
4:38 pm
MiaBchBravesFan, I’d like to see us try to acquire Craig Gentry from Texas to play CF. Great defensive fielder, great speed and hits from the right side.. plus hits lefties really well.
PDOG
September 27th, 2012
4:42 pm
I might go after Peter Boujas from Angels if I am the Braves, also might not be a bad idea to try and sign Tori Hunter for 1 year for about 5 million to play LF, but I keep getting images of Garret Anderson in LF.
Arkansas Transplant
September 27th, 2012
4:44 pm
For LF, I’d be okay with Justin Upton(huge price), Willingham(Twins want to keep him), BJ Upton(FA probably going to be expensive) and then my next choice would be to look at some available minor league prospects like Garcia from Detroit that have the potential to supply the power and production we’re looking for.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
4:47 pm
that have the potential to supply the power and production we’re looking for.
I don’t think they’re going to look for “potential” in the OF, AT. And the deeper the run in the postseason, even less likely that they would do so.
cricket
September 27th, 2012
4:53 pm
i would love willingham. Uptons may not happen. Ludwick woulda been great for a year but he’s got very affordable team option.
raleighbravefan
September 27th, 2012
4:53 pm
scoots – Yep, a deep run in post season creates revenue…key to increased payroll latitude.
raleighbravefan
September 27th, 2012
4:56 pm
Of course, all the things that make a player attractive to us, makes them valuable and desirable on the market (trade or FA). This is what makes the moves so difficult, especially for a team in the 47%.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
4:57 pm
Get to the world series we can sign Greinke and maybe pay Cody Ross for LF. Cody Ross is the really the only lefty masher set to be on the market.
Murph
September 27th, 2012
5:06 pm
I just watched the first 2 episodes of Boardwalk Empire. I thought they jumped the shark last year by killing off Jimmy
Jimmy’s dead?!?
Dude, c’mon… I’m still trying to catch up on season 2.
Guess now I can skip ahead and start watching season 3 since now I know how it ends.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
5:08 pm
Apparently, today, Fredi said that he’s bringing 3 starters and all the BP guys to the WC play-in. Hopefully Gearrin is that last BP guy over Cmart.
DAP
September 27th, 2012
5:15 pm
scoots Its sounds like an easy thing to get a RH LF who can hit for power… Real RH power is at a premium in the game right now, that’s just a fact of life.
it is easy, if all you care about is being able to hit lefties. apparently, thats the main objective. so, it shouldnt be a problem.
Lane Kiffin
September 27th, 2012
5:22 pm
where is everybody.
tony austin
September 27th, 2012
5:24 pm
I mean no disrespect to RA or Gio or any pitcher, but I value a pitchers W-L record about as much as Shaun values RBIs. It’s an uncontrollable part of the game. A pitcher could have a 1.00 ERA and lose 20 games as easily as a pitcher can have a 5.00 ERA and win 20 games.
I’m not trying to take away anything from the season RA (.266, over 4 Ks for every walk) and Gio (.284, almost 3 Ks to every walk) are having, both have had a great year. However some people see 20 wins and think that’s Cy Young worthy however I have to disagree. I’m not saying RA or Gio are not worthy of the Cy Young but a W-L record should not be a factor in the voting.
Just my opinion.
DAP
September 27th, 2012
5:24 pm
theonlybravesfan Cody Ross is the really the only lefty masher set to be on the market.
jonny gomes, ryan ludwick, scott hairston, torii hunter, reed johnson all crush lefties too. and those are just the free agents. theres lots of that out there.
cricket
September 27th, 2012
5:31 pm
DAP – ludwick is no FA. team option of 5 mil, which will surely be exercised.
cricket
September 27th, 2012
5:39 pm
Francona may go to Indians, breaking some hearts here (who will ask for change even if braves win the whole thing this year)
UKUGA
September 27th, 2012
5:40 pm
Big day today.
We can be anywhere from 3 games back with 6 to play, to 5 games back. If it’s the latter, we can begin easing into “get ready for next Friday mode.” If it’s the former, then we could have a wild week-end in front of us.
O.M.G.
September 27th, 2012
5:42 pm
And if it is 4 games back, then what?
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
5:58 pm
Hope Tommy can put in a good outing tonight, 6 IP, 2 ER. I’m thinking he can. However, if necessary, I hope Fredi does have a quick hook tonight.
Uggla and Chipper go deep tonight, we beat up on Turner. Braves win 8-2. Let’s go!
Later folks, y’all take care. Peace.
Astral
September 27th, 2012
6:06 pm
I won’t sneeze at it, but I will spit on that lineup YUCK!!
Astral
September 27th, 2012
6:08 pm
nobody has said anything about wanting a outfielder who can only hit lefties, they just want to be certain that is included. Pretty weak strawman there DAP
Astral
September 27th, 2012
6:11 pm
I don’t think Fredi is going anywhere even if they lose the playin
Mixxo
September 27th, 2012
6:13 pm
I won’t sneeze at it, but I will spit on that lineup YUCK!!
Really?
We don’t have a lot options there Kemosabe. I’d rather have a 100% Constanza than a 50% Bourn. Ross instead of Heap….that’s always a plus….this year anyway.
Astral
September 27th, 2012
6:17 pm
I was referring to Miami’s lineup for next year. We end up with that and it will be a miracle if they average 4 runs per game
Mixxo
September 27th, 2012
6:19 pm
*of
Mixxo
September 27th, 2012
6:20 pm
OK, my bad….carry on.
Kat
September 27th, 2012
6:28 pm
Terrible two days at work which left me MIA yesterday from anything on tv or the internet. Good to see we won. And on to tonight…
Mixxo
September 27th, 2012
6:31 pm
cabravesfan -
Robin1381
The Blogger Formerly Known as Billy
September 27th, 2012
6:33 pm
Hey anyone know of a live stream anywhere online for that C. Jones pre game stuff and is it Friday or Saturday?
Patrick
September 27th, 2012
6:36 pm
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
R.A. Dickey now the frontrunner for the NL Cy Young Award, IMO. But Gio still to pitch for No. 21, and there will be a Kimbrel faction.
Kimbrel! Kimbrel!
Did anyone see the Graphic that showed the Eye-Popping and Historic Stats that Kimbrel has produced this year? Even before I saw those jaw dropping facts, I thought Kimbrel deserved to win the Cy Young award. But after I saw that, he should be a lock for it.
Sadly, that is not the concensus between the writers. Only Mr. Stark seems to be seeing what everyone one in Braves Nation is. When you do things that have NEVER been done in the history of the game and also are breaking records that have stood up since the 1900’s!!…That is Cy Young worthy and if it isn’t in some people’s minds..just because he is a relief pitcher, then they are narrow-minded fools.
David O'Brien
September 27th, 2012
6:41 pm
New BLOGGAGE for the denizens
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/09/27/after-shedding-sept-11-albatross-braves-celebration-fitting/
njbraves
September 27th, 2012
7:57 pm
Keep hanging em Tommy.
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