Capt., I think the RISP problem could be somewhat alleviated by Fredi separating Uggla and McCann in the lineup. Just my humble opinion based on observation.
If the Bravos go 7-0 to finish out, we’ll need the Nats to go 3-4 to finish 162 in a tie.
It’s useful that the Cards lost and the Dodgers & Brewers both won tonight, because that means the Cards will still be playing with urgency throughout the weekend. Rooting for the Cards to win every night here out, though, because they are the team I’d most like to see the Braves face in that WC game.
We all are, John. Even the rosiest-rose-rose, optimist-of-all-optimists is. They’re an imperfect team. Hope is all we have. Luckily for us, the other squads ain’t perfect either.
And, if anyone still believes in a Hanson start, get that cat some help. Stat.
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
#Nationals 3B coach Bo Porter is the new #Astros manager, sources tell me and @jonmorosi. News conference at 10 a.m. CT tomorrow.
Today? Damn you, and your today. There is drinking to be done, sir, and it happens tonight. I kindly request you refrain from referencing any sort of reality. Thank you.
You know, I take that back. I think it might be the helmet. I mean, logically, the helmet is a no-brainer. Anyone who watched Ron Gant yank knows that. But, still, these coaches lose something. TP as hitting coach: managerial candidate. TP in a helmet: not so mu… Oh, wait. It’s required. Well, still. There’s a point here. I’m not sayin’ I nkow what it is. But, a point. And, further, if you;re still reading, why is that? Maybe you need a helmet…
Payback is a 1999 American crime thriller directed by Brian Helgeland and starring Mel Gibson. The film shares the same source material as the 1967 noir-classic Point Blank, directed by John Boorman and starring Lee Marvin; both are based on the book The Hunter, written by Donald E. Westlake under the pseudonym of Richard Stark. Westlake wrote a number of hardboiled novels with Porter and some other “heroes”
I want to give you respect. I truly do. (And, I like that movie more than anybody really should.) But, you post six lines and don’t mention the girl with the dog? C’mon… That might be the its only redeeming feature. (Exaggeration. ‘Cause I don’t remember her.)
I may not know nolie, but I know nolie. Payback is an all-timer with my guy. Guar. An. Teed. (And, even if it’s not, it is with me, and I’m all that really counts.)
Westlake also wrote a series of tongue in cheek caper/heist movies with John Dortmunder as the main character, a talented heist planner with a woebegone crew of cronies and just plain bad luck. Very different feel than gritty crime stories. One of my favorite authors, so there.
I liked the Lee Marvin movie version better, but then I am a big Marvin fan.
I wish there were some way I could ensure that you would respect me in the morning.
And, as a procrastinate: DerekZ, you’re frickin’ soft, man. The DP2C was nonsensical, from the start. Let’s be clear. But, you owned it. And, in a place where the bar is set so low, even I’m allowed, you left us. C’mon, man (best Shannon Sharpe impersonation). It’s October, sir. Double Pits us. Nightly. All hands on deck, brother.
JL, looked ‘er up, ’cause of you. Now I’ mashamed. It’s Maria Bello. My girl. How did I forget? I blame you. Though, I do have ‘History of Violence’ on disc. That seems like a valid reason to stop cramming worthless crap in boxes. *presses play*
Our records indicate; your check, Mr. BAS, has yet to clear—the band remains [regretfully] at rest. “The tombstones are weathered and broken……Oh Susanna, oh don’t you cry for me…..”
I kindly request you refrain from referencing any sort of reality. Thank you.
Hmm….
We talk baseball, other sports, music, movies, BBQ and whatever (except politics or religion). I kindly request you refrain from referencing any sort of reality. Thank you.
BAS – Keep the tangled up mess of old cellphone chargers. You never know. But, I’d dump all of those sticky pennies that are in the drawer with the Ricola. Heavy and worth probably, what? $8.97?
I’am glad Fredi has started using speed to cause stress on good pitchers like Johnson. You know Johnson and his catcher were both stressed when on a squeeze play they allowed the pitch to go all the way to the back-stop. Heyward has turned into a great stress factor. When Heyward, Bourn and Canstanza are in the line-up the opposing pitcher and his infielders know they are going to be tested.
That was a gut-check win by the Nationals last night. The Braves still have a shot, though.
With their win last night and the Cardinals’ loss, the Braves clinched the #1 wild card spot and home field in the wild card playoff game.
Meanwhile, huge wins by the Orioles and A’s kept the red-hot Angels at bay. And Detroit finds themselves alone in first place in the AL Central for the first time in a while.
Here are the updated magic numbers. No one can clinch anything today.
NL East – Washington – 4
NL Central – Cincinnati – clinched
NL West – San Francisco – clinched
NL Playoffs (relative to Milwaukee/Los Angeles)
Washington – clinched
Cincinnati – clinched
San Francisco – clinched
Atlanta – clinched
St. Louis – 4
NL #1 seed – Washington – 6 (relative to Cincinnati)
NL #1 wild card – Atlanta – clinched
AL East – New York – 6
AL Central – Detroit – 7
AL West – Texas – 5
AL Playoffs (relative to Los Angeles)
Texas – 3
New York – 4
Baltimore – 5
Oakland – 6
Detroit – 7 (relative to Chicago for division)
AL #1 seed – Texas – 7 (relative to New York)
AL #1 wild card – Baltimore – 7 (relative to Oakland)
The bell tolls in Pittsburgh, where the Pirates were mathematically eliminated from the postseason last night. Now they only have to shoot for a winning record…they need to go 6-1.
Today, the Phillies and Diamondbacks would be eliminated from the postseason with a loss and a win by St. Louis. If the White Sox lose today and Oakland wins, then Chicago would be eliminated from their long-shot wild card hopes, with only the division left.
Here are the updated elimination numbers:
NL Playoffs (relative to St. Louis)
Philadelphia – 2
Arizona – 2
Milwaukee – 4
Los Angeles – 4
AL Playoffs (relative to Oakland)
Tampa Bay – 5
Los Angeles – 6
Chicago – 7 (relative to Detroit for division)
That was a gut-check win by the Nationals last night.
True that. The papers were on the table at 5-4 and the Phillies couldn’t close the deal. Once the Nats exhaled, they were able to tack on. Give them credit, they reached down for that one.
TheOnlyBravesFan…”Hanson has done a bit better w/ Ross”
McCann and Ross are both really good catchers, but I think most of the pitchers do a slight bit better with Rossy catching. Not by much though, McCann still calls an excellent game.
Yes, I expect parking to be at a premium on Friday.
Best advice is always to give yourself ample time to drive by and if you don’t see anything, have a MARTA fallback plan.
If you don’t want to take that chance then either
A) pay for a parking pass on-line (at a premium)
B) plan ahead to use MARTA and factor that into your travel time
From my experience, I have never not been able to find someone willing to take money and let me park in their lot.
My pattern is generally to drive South on Pryor and see what is available, then cut over to Central Ave and head north and see what is available.
Traditionally, I tried to park on Central Ave, because it goes north one way, and I was always heading north after the game. However, those are mostly Braves lots now. Pryor becomes the better option. Shadier, but better.
If you are running late, then you might not want to take a chance, because you may get stuck in traffic and still not be able to find parking.
I’m betting the Nats get a total of 3 wins and/or Braves losses out of the next 14 games combined that 2 teams play. If Washington can’t handle that kind of “pressure” they should all join Strasberg on the sidelines. Cards will have clinched Wild Card by Saturday and Sunday and Monday -Wednesday games the Nats have with them will be meaningless.
The Nats have allegedly been on that cliff for 145 games,however, they somehow are just barely capable of “lucking” it out. Wonder if they played a 332 game schedule if they would be considered bonafide? Probably not. And this is still going on with the inexplicable shut down of 1 of their 2 aces and the effect that inevitably had on rotation AND morale. Just think if Medlen had been shut down. By the way, meant to say “Washington’s 3 games next week against the Phillies after they have been eliminated.”
Did you or someone else mention that the IBEW lot is now a “Braves” lot? That was always the best for getting out after the game if going south; a little spooky walking back in the dark, but great to get on home quickly
3 back with 6 to play heading into the weekend would be nice. That’s what I’ll be hoping for.
Really rooting for Tommy tonight. Everyone is pretty much holding their weight around here in the rotation and it’d be great to see Hanson come in with a quality start.
I wonder if they will pull Hudson back and start Teheran or Delgado in the last day of the season. Huddy is going on Friday night, so it’d be 8 days between starts, I think – provided we make it to the division series.
No, Hudson will not pitch next Wednesday unless they would win the division outright with a win. I’m sure he’ll do some throwing between to keep him in rhythm, but no need to make that start, which would put him on 3 days rest for Game 1 of the NLDS.
Alternatively, would the Braves consider starting Minor in Game 1 of the NLDS, at home? Then Hudson would be lined up for Game 2 on regular rest, and Medlen for Game 3.
Alternatively, would the Braves consider starting Minor in Game 1 of the NLDS, at home? Then Hudson would be lined up for Game 2 on regular rest, and Medlen for Game 3.
Minor in a Game 5, if necessary. Braves would be showing a lot of confidence in the young man, if they set it up that way.
Efrim, assuming the Braves don’t win the division, and win the wild card game, it would be Sunday and Monday at home, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday on the road.
I’d rather have Minor go game 1 NLDS since he’s outperformed Hudson by quite a bit. However, Huddy is the veteran, so I’ll bet that he gets the nod. Nothing wrong with that anyway.
How short a leash is Hanson on tonight?
I’d hope it’s a short leash, but as we’ve already clinched the #1 spot, he doesn’t necessarily have to be on a short leash. Fredi can let him go as long as he wants. Now, if Fredi looks up at the scoreboard and sees that it’s 10-0 Phils, short leash!!!
scoots, would you really trade Maholm this offseason? I guess anything could happen, but I just don’t see it. 6.5 million for 180 innings and an ERA of around 3.80-4.20 – pretty solid.
And I hate soft tossing LHP’s, but I want the guy to stay and be a solid veteran at the back of the rotation.
The IBEW lot is where I used to park. I don’t think it’s a “Braves” lot now, I just don’t know that they are still letting people pay to park there.
Last time I went (Rockies series – day after Labor Day), the lot was about 70% full of cars with people mulling about, but no one was there to take money. I suspect I could’ve gotten away with parking and walking away, but I have an aversion to having my car towed.
The next time I go, I plan to drive by there again and see, but something makes me think that they are no longer renting out that lot during games. If so, it’s a shame, because it really was one of the best places to park – and cheap.
Probably the most interesting aspect of the post-season will be watching Medlen and Minor under the big lights. One guy back from the bullpen and the other back from a starter’s abyss, and the team asking each of them to make the four or five biggest starts of their lives. And, oh by the way, win them. Neither of them with 50 ML starts.
I believe Minor has been much better at home, so that could happen.
This year… 3.47 ERA at home 5.14 ERA away. Opponents hit him at a .220/.286/.344/.629 clip at home, and .251/.313/.489/.801 away. Same trend if you look at his career.
As I just checked the stats, it broke my heart to see that even with all his struggles earlier this year, Mike Minor has outperformed Tommy Hanson… yea, his ERA was higher before (it’s not anymore), but opponents don’t hit him as hard as they do Tommy. Has to be an injury. And Mike Minor is 24, 1st professional season. Tommy is 25 in his 4th.
Efrim, assuming the Braves don’t win the division, and win the wild card game, it would be Sunday and Monday at home, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday on the road.
Thanks, Brian. I should be able to catch all of the games – which is nice. Really hope we get there.
Efrim and scoots, what are your takes on the very real possibility that Teheran starts out next year at AAA for a 3rd year in a row?
I know he’s still just a baby, but spending 3 years at one level in the minors has got to have some effect on his psyche, doesn’t it? I’ve wondered if part of the reason why he had such a down year this year was not winning a spot in the rotation out of spring training… seems like a season-long pout didn’t do the kid any favors…. if that’s part of his problem, which I don’t know that it is/was.
I don’t know that I would, personally. Or the Braves, either. I just think that it’s one avenue that could be explored, depending on how they view their priorities and how they allocate their resources. Go big on pitching and you’re looking at slotting Minor at 4, which is pretty strong, and I can’t see them paying Maholm to be a fifth starter, in that scenario.
It’s good to see the Bravos finishing up the season on a strong run (16-7, so far this month). Last September is well documented, but they also finished weakly in 2010, going 13-14 in September, and only clinching the WC on the last day of the season after having played 1st place baseball through late summer.
I would start Hudson without question in game 1 if we make it. Minor game 2. Medlen game 3. Maholm game 4. Bring Hudson back for game 5. Medlen would be set for starting the NL series if all that falls into place.
Hanson and Sheets (obviously) will be off the roster. The above pitchers will be the post-season pitchers. Delgado probably goes to the pen.
I would start Hudson without question in game 1 if we make it. Minor game 2. Medlen game 3. Maholm game 4. Bring Hudson back for game 5. Medlen would be set for starting the NL series if all that falls into place.
Hanson and Sheets (obviously) will be off the roster. The above pitchers will be the post-season pitchers. Delgado probably goes to the pen.
what are your takes on the very real possibility that Teheran starts out next year at AAA for a 3rd year in a row?
I don’t think it kills him. Maybe he goes down to instructionals after the season to work on some stuff, maybe he just puts this year in the rearview and spits as it goes by. Next year is next year, and I think he gets every chance to get a spot in ST. Assuming he isn’t traded in the offseason, and I really-really-really hope they don’t do that.
But if he ends up in AAA, then he just has to pitch well enough down there to make them regret the decision. He’s going to end up in the bigs somewhere, and I’m guessing he’s smart enough to kno wthat.
Go big on pitching and you’re looking at slotting Minor at 4, which is pretty strong, and I can’t see them paying Maholm to be a fifth starter, in that scenario.
Yeah, I guess it all depends on the allocation of salary. One thing is clear, just can’t see Tommy Hanson on the team next year. I think they will absolutely find a trade partner that is willing ot give fair value for the kid.
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JC Brave
September 26th, 2012
11:55 pm
nolie not in the top 25?
Is he OK?
Sopheee
September 26th, 2012
11:58 pm
Thanks, Carroll!
JC – nolie’s been in the hospital with an infection in his leg.
JC Brave
September 27th, 2012
12:02 am
Aw, so sad to know that. I hope he gets better soon so he can enjoy all of this a bit more comfortably!
Brava
September 27th, 2012
12:09 am
Capt., I think the RISP problem could be somewhat alleviated by Fredi separating Uggla and McCann in the lineup. Just my humble opinion based on observation.
John Leonard
September 27th, 2012
12:23 am
The pitching has been outstanding(Not the dart throwing.)but 4 hits will probably not be enough in the playoffs.
GTI in Brooklyn
September 27th, 2012
12:30 am
If the Bravos go 7-0 to finish out, we’ll need the Nats to go 3-4 to finish 162 in a tie.
It’s useful that the Cards lost and the Dodgers & Brewers both won tonight, because that means the Cards will still be playing with urgency throughout the weekend. Rooting for the Cards to win every night here out, though, because they are the team I’d most like to see the Braves face in that WC game.
John Leonard
September 27th, 2012
12:33 am
GTI: Why is that? I’m scared of them all.
Capt.Mudd
September 27th, 2012
12:33 am
@Brava……I think they could still encourage each other with more air between them so, go ahead Fredi–act now before the big single game W/C.
Capt.Mudd
September 27th, 2012
12:37 am
Hello–in advance to Ward…..He should be along soon? Give us your inner-most perceptive thoughts Ward
Goonight!
Half Empty
September 27th, 2012
12:38 am
I don’t like to see those two back to back either,
Even though Dan has been one of our better hitters in September
Half Empty
September 27th, 2012
12:39 am
I’m not sure I would want to Braves to win out. I think I’d just as soon see them lose a game before the wildcard playoff
John Leonard
September 27th, 2012
12:41 am
When Hanson pitch’s you might get your wish.
John Leonard
September 27th, 2012
12:43 am
All year long they have been streaky,and I’m afraid of them going the other way.
Venice Jim
September 27th, 2012
12:43 am
I will throw in this clip of Andy before I head off – I have been a fan for close to 50 years…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flm4xcOyiCo
Half Empty
September 27th, 2012
12:48 am
I see that “lou” is just as full of it as usual
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
12:49 am
“I’m afraid of them going the other way.”
We all are, John. Even the rosiest-rose-rose, optimist-of-all-optimists is. They’re an imperfect team. Hope is all we have. Luckily for us, the other squads ain’t perfect either.
And, if anyone still believes in a Hanson start, get that cat some help. Stat.
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
12:50 am
I don’t know if any of y’all’ve ever had to move. I kinda doubt it; I’m unique like that.
Still: moving blows.
Venice Jim
September 27th, 2012
12:51 am
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
#Nationals 3B coach Bo Porter is the new #Astros manager, sources tell me and @jonmorosi. News conference at 10 a.m. CT tomorrow.
Half Empty
September 27th, 2012
12:52 am
I thought Hanson is starting today?
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
1:06 am
“today?”
Today? Damn you, and your today. There is drinking to be done, sir, and it happens tonight. I kindly request you refrain from referencing any sort of reality. Thank you.
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
1:09 am
Bo Porter has no skills. I base this, entirely, on the fact that his name consists of Bo and Porter. (And whatever latent racism I’m unaware of.)
(It occurs to me that Mel Gibson played one bad-assed Porter in some movie long ago. I choose to ignore that.)
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
1:18 am
“I base this, entirely”
You know, I take that back. I think it might be the helmet. I mean, logically, the helmet is a no-brainer. Anyone who watched Ron Gant yank knows that. But, still, these coaches lose something. TP as hitting coach: managerial candidate. TP in a helmet: not so mu… Oh, wait. It’s required. Well, still. There’s a point here. I’m not sayin’ I nkow what it is. But, a point. And, further, if you;re still reading, why is that? Maybe you need a helmet…
Half Empty
September 27th, 2012
1:21 am
Payback is a 1999 American crime thriller directed by Brian Helgeland and starring Mel Gibson. The film shares the same source material as the 1967 noir-classic Point Blank, directed by John Boorman and starring Lee Marvin; both are based on the book The Hunter, written by Donald E. Westlake under the pseudonym of Richard Stark. Westlake wrote a number of hardboiled novels with Porter and some other “heroes”
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
1:25 am
“Payback is a 1999 American crime thriller”
I want to give you respect. I truly do. (And, I like that movie more than anybody really should.) But, you post six lines and don’t mention the girl with the dog? C’mon… That might be the its only redeeming feature. (Exaggeration. ‘Cause I don’t remember her.)
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
1:28 am
I may not know nolie, but I know nolie. Payback is an all-timer with my guy. Guar. An. Teed. (And, even if it’s not, it is with me, and I’m all that really counts.)
Get well, brother.
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
1:31 am
Lemme go put more crap in another box.
What is this place good for, if not to distract folks from responsibility?
And, I don’t know about y’all’s interaction with the craigslist folk, but…
Half Empty
September 27th, 2012
1:31 am
Westlake also wrote a series of tongue in cheek caper/heist movies with John Dortmunder as the main character, a talented heist planner with a woebegone crew of cronies and just plain bad luck. Very different feel than gritty crime stories. One of my favorite authors, so there.
I liked the Lee Marvin movie version better, but then I am a big Marvin fan.
I wish there were some way I could ensure that you would respect me in the morning.
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
1:31 am
Fire DOB.
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
1:35 am
“I could ensure that you would respect me”
Thanks for humoring me. I’d no idea Payback was off a novel. (I suppose I should’ve; most are.) I’ll take a peek at your names.
I’m afraid I haven’t read much since my Grisham/Clancy/Crichton days. I blame ‘OB. It can’t be ’cause I’m lazy, and TV watches like crack. No. Way.
John Leonard
September 27th, 2012
1:37 am
BAS: Did’nt you hear? thats why CR. is in lol.
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
1:39 am
Fire Homer. (Homer, The Abandoner.)
Rehire DOB.
And, as a procrastinate: DerekZ, you’re frickin’ soft, man. The DP2C was nonsensical, from the start. Let’s be clear. But, you owned it. And, in a place where the bar is set so low, even I’m allowed, you left us. C’mon, man (best Shannon Sharpe impersonation). It’s October, sir. Double Pits us. Nightly. All hands on deck, brother.
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
1:40 am
“Did’nt you hear?”
Distracted. Really hoping to hear about the girl with the dog.
John Leonard
September 27th, 2012
1:43 am
To hey with the dog,lets hear about the girl.
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
1:47 am
JL, looked ‘er up, ’cause of you. Now I’ mashamed. It’s Maria Bello. My girl. How did I forget? I blame you. Though, I do have ‘History of Violence’ on disc. That seems like a valid reason to stop cramming worthless crap in boxes. *presses play*
John Leonard
September 27th, 2012
1:55 am
She’s 45,a little old for me,but nice.
Half Empty
September 27th, 2012
1:56 am
I liked that Bello TV show that got cancelled , Prime Suspect
John Leonard
September 27th, 2012
2:01 am
You notice anything good usually gets the can.
John Leonard
September 27th, 2012
2:09 am
Nite all,and may the darts be in stealth mode today.
Capt.Mudd
September 27th, 2012
2:11 am
“The dance floor is silent and empty…..the band doesn’t play anymore.”
Bay Area Steve
September 27th, 2012
2:14 am
“The dance floor is silent and empty”
That’s ’cause I can’t dance worth a shi…
Band’s been paid. Damn well better keep playin’.
Capt.Mudd
September 27th, 2012
2:22 am
“…….and the dancers are dust…..on the floor.” CWM
Capt.Mudd
September 27th, 2012
2:33 am
Our records indicate; your check, Mr. BAS, has yet to clear—the band remains [regretfully] at rest. “The tombstones are weathered and broken……Oh Susanna, oh don’t you cry for me…..”
Couch Tater
September 27th, 2012
4:27 am
Maybe you need a helmet…
Holy cat-o-nine tails! YOU need a helmet, if you mention Payback without mentioning Lucy Liu. Meow.
Couch Tater
September 27th, 2012
4:39 am
I kindly request you refrain from referencing any sort of reality. Thank you.
Hmm….
We talk baseball, other sports, music, movies, BBQ and whatever (except politics or religion). I kindly request you refrain from referencing any sort of reality. Thank you.
I like it! Tweet that biotch.
Couch Tater
September 27th, 2012
5:00 am
BAS – Keep the tangled up mess of old cellphone chargers. You never know. But, I’d dump all of those sticky pennies that are in the drawer with the Ricola. Heavy and worth probably, what? $8.97?
Couch Tater
September 27th, 2012
5:14 am
MikeInFL – Good call about the Hanson pitch count/quick hook. I’m going to pay closer attention, tonight.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 27th, 2012
6:48 am
98.6 this morning
8 down 4 to go. Let’s do the 12-0 sweep of the FISH and METS. Come on TOMMY be excellent tonight.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 27th, 2012
7:01 am
……..
cowdogit
September 27th, 2012
7:07 am
I’am glad Fredi has started using speed to cause stress on good pitchers like Johnson. You know Johnson and his catcher were both stressed when on a squeeze play they allowed the pitch to go all the way to the back-stop. Heyward has turned into a great stress factor. When Heyward, Bourn and Canstanza are in the line-up the opposing pitcher and his infielders know they are going to be tested.
Couch Tater
September 27th, 2012
7:07 am
McFann has found a new home where everything that is wrong with the world is not blamed on Mac
Smorgastopia.
A land where polyunsaturated acidic comments are not tolerated. Love is in the fare.
Couch Tater
September 27th, 2012
7:28 am
BAS – Just saw your 3:15 DM. “You know any plastic bottle recycgkednfig”
I think you passed out on the damn phone, again.
UKUGA
September 27th, 2012
7:38 am
Sweep the Fish and keep the pressure on the Nats.
Jeff R
September 27th, 2012
7:39 am
Braves win; Phillies lose. When would we otherwise be disappointed by that development?
Phillies can take the series from the Nats tonight. The Braves need to sweep the hapless and strife-torn Fish.
Keep the pressure on the Nats, boys!
Jeff R
September 27th, 2012
7:40 am
Hanson needs to give the Braves 5.2 quality innings tonight. (Come on, Tommy, we’re talking about the Fish here.)
flange1
September 27th, 2012
7:43 am
Nice win last nite!
And Ghost of Chipper, great news on the grandson and KC.
Is he going to go pro?
Brian from SC
September 27th, 2012
7:54 am
That was a gut-check win by the Nationals last night. The Braves still have a shot, though.
With their win last night and the Cardinals’ loss, the Braves clinched the #1 wild card spot and home field in the wild card playoff game.
Meanwhile, huge wins by the Orioles and A’s kept the red-hot Angels at bay. And Detroit finds themselves alone in first place in the AL Central for the first time in a while.
Here are the updated magic numbers. No one can clinch anything today.
NL East – Washington – 4
NL Central – Cincinnati – clinched
NL West – San Francisco – clinched
NL Playoffs (relative to Milwaukee/Los Angeles)
Washington – clinched
Cincinnati – clinched
San Francisco – clinched
Atlanta – clinched
St. Louis – 4
NL #1 seed – Washington – 6 (relative to Cincinnati)
NL #1 wild card – Atlanta – clinched
AL East – New York – 6
AL Central – Detroit – 7
AL West – Texas – 5
AL Playoffs (relative to Los Angeles)
Texas – 3
New York – 4
Baltimore – 5
Oakland – 6
Detroit – 7 (relative to Chicago for division)
AL #1 seed – Texas – 7 (relative to New York)
AL #1 wild card – Baltimore – 7 (relative to Oakland)
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
7:54 am
Hanson has done a bit better w/ Ross (in fewer starts of course). He has a 4.90 ERA w/ Mac (119 IP), and a 3.27 ERA with Ross (44 IP)
In 36 PAs against the Marlins currently on the team, he has been hit at a .346/.528/.538/1.066 line. Ugly.
For the year, he’s faced the Marlins twice, for a total of 10 innings (yeesh), allowing 9 Hits and 2 runs. He’s walked 10 and struck of 11.
In 13 starts at home (74 IP), Hanson has gone 4-4 with a 4.60 ERA. Opponents hit him at a .288/.358/.477/.836 clip
Brian from SC
September 27th, 2012
8:00 am
The bell tolls in Pittsburgh, where the Pirates were mathematically eliminated from the postseason last night. Now they only have to shoot for a winning record…they need to go 6-1.
Today, the Phillies and Diamondbacks would be eliminated from the postseason with a loss and a win by St. Louis. If the White Sox lose today and Oakland wins, then Chicago would be eliminated from their long-shot wild card hopes, with only the division left.
Here are the updated elimination numbers:
NL Playoffs (relative to St. Louis)
Philadelphia – 2
Arizona – 2
Milwaukee – 4
Los Angeles – 4
AL Playoffs (relative to Oakland)
Tampa Bay – 5
Los Angeles – 6
Chicago – 7 (relative to Detroit for division)
flange1
September 27th, 2012
8:10 am
Hanson just needs to contribute tonight.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
8:14 am
Braves just have to keep coming after the Nats like the posse after Butch and Sundance. Could be that they can make the Nats jump off a cliff.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
8:18 am
That was a gut-check win by the Nationals last night.
True that. The papers were on the table at 5-4 and the Phillies couldn’t close the deal. Once the Nats exhaled, they were able to tack on. Give them credit, they reached down for that one.
Lemke's Knuckler
September 27th, 2012
8:25 am
TheOnlyBravesFan…”Hanson has done a bit better w/ Ross”
McCann and Ross are both really good catchers, but I think most of the pitchers do a slight bit better with Rossy catching. Not by much though, McCann still calls an excellent game.
UKUGA
September 27th, 2012
8:40 am
coastalbrave,
I just saw your post form 6:01 yesterday.
Yes, I expect parking to be at a premium on Friday.
Best advice is always to give yourself ample time to drive by and if you don’t see anything, have a MARTA fallback plan.
If you don’t want to take that chance then either
A) pay for a parking pass on-line (at a premium)
B) plan ahead to use MARTA and factor that into your travel time
From my experience, I have never not been able to find someone willing to take money and let me park in their lot.
My pattern is generally to drive South on Pryor and see what is available, then cut over to Central Ave and head north and see what is available.
Traditionally, I tried to park on Central Ave, because it goes north one way, and I was always heading north after the game. However, those are mostly Braves lots now. Pryor becomes the better option. Shadier, but better.
If you are running late, then you might not want to take a chance, because you may get stuck in traffic and still not be able to find parking.
UKUGA
September 27th, 2012
8:42 am
If we’re 3 out after tonight, then this was a really successful 3 game stretch, regardless of what WAS did last night.
Pressure?? What Pressure??
September 27th, 2012
8:44 am
I’m betting the Nats get a total of 3 wins and/or Braves losses out of the next 14 games combined that 2 teams play. If Washington can’t handle that kind of “pressure” they should all join Strasberg on the sidelines. Cards will have clinched Wild Card by Saturday and Sunday and Monday -Wednesday games the Nats have with them will be meaningless.
UKUGA
September 27th, 2012
8:44 am
I really thought Werth was gonna get clowned and then the Phils were gonna take it in the bottom of the 9th.
Give him credit for the big 2 strike knock.
Pressure?? What Pressure??
September 27th, 2012
8:50 am
The Nats have allegedly been on that cliff for 145 games,however, they somehow are just barely capable of “lucking” it out. Wonder if they played a 332 game schedule if they would be considered bonafide? Probably not. And this is still going on with the inexplicable shut down of 1 of their 2 aces and the effect that inevitably had on rotation AND morale. Just think if Medlen had been shut down. By the way, meant to say “Washington’s 3 games next week against the Phillies after they have been eliminated.”
Sylvester Bill
September 27th, 2012
8:54 am
UKUGA
Did you or someone else mention that the IBEW lot is now a “Braves” lot? That was always the best for getting out after the game if going south; a little spooky walking back in the dark, but great to get on home quickly
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
9:28 am
3 back with 6 to play heading into the weekend would be nice. That’s what I’ll be hoping for.
Really rooting for Tommy tonight. Everyone is pretty much holding their weight around here in the rotation and it’d be great to see Hanson come in with a quality start.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
9:31 am
I wonder if they will pull Hudson back and start Teheran or Delgado in the last day of the season. Huddy is going on Friday night, so it’d be 8 days between starts, I think – provided we make it to the division series.
Brian from SC
September 27th, 2012
9:35 am
No, Hudson will not pitch next Wednesday unless they would win the division outright with a win. I’m sure he’ll do some throwing between to keep him in rhythm, but no need to make that start, which would put him on 3 days rest for Game 1 of the NLDS.
Brian from SC
September 27th, 2012
9:36 am
Alternatively, would the Braves consider starting Minor in Game 1 of the NLDS, at home? Then Hudson would be lined up for Game 2 on regular rest, and Medlen for Game 3.
Webster
September 27th, 2012
9:36 am
How short a leash is Hanson on tonight?
Hillbilly
September 27th, 2012
9:38 am
I won’t complain, because that series of posts was “Bay Area Steve Gold” but who packs to move at those hours of the night?
Livin’ on the Run? Feds? One-Niners? Marsellus Wallace? Did you get the pancakes with the blueberries? Who’s Zed?
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
9:39 am
Alternatively, would the Braves consider starting Minor in Game 1 of the NLDS, at home? Then Hudson would be lined up for Game 2 on regular rest, and Medlen for Game 3.
Minor in a Game 5, if necessary. Braves would be showing a lot of confidence in the young man, if they set it up that way.
Brian from SC
September 27th, 2012
9:40 am
Indeed, scoots. I still think it would be Hudson. But the Braves have some options, with Minor pitching so well.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
9:40 am
I believe Minor has been much better at home, so that could happen.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
9:41 am
I need to see the playoff schedule first….or, ya know, be eligible for the division series first…..
Brian from SC
September 27th, 2012
9:43 am
Efrim, assuming the Braves don’t win the division, and win the wild card game, it would be Sunday and Monday at home, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday on the road.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
9:44 am
I’d rather have Minor go game 1 NLDS since he’s outperformed Hudson by quite a bit. However, Huddy is the veteran, so I’ll bet that he gets the nod. Nothing wrong with that anyway.
How short a leash is Hanson on tonight?
I’d hope it’s a short leash, but as we’ve already clinched the #1 spot, he doesn’t necessarily have to be on a short leash. Fredi can let him go as long as he wants. Now, if Fredi looks up at the scoreboard and sees that it’s 10-0 Phils, short leash!!!
Brian from SC
September 27th, 2012
9:46 am
The real decision is not about who gets Game 1. Minor and Hudson will get Games 1 and 2 at home in some order.
Whoever you start in Game 1 would pitch the hypothetical Game 5, on the road. That’s the key.
Brian from SC
September 27th, 2012
9:47 am
Too bad Washington and Philly aren’t playing a day game today.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
9:47 am
scoots, would you really trade Maholm this offseason? I guess anything could happen, but I just don’t see it. 6.5 million for 180 innings and an ERA of around 3.80-4.20 – pretty solid.
And I hate soft tossing LHP’s, but I want the guy to stay and be a solid veteran at the back of the rotation.
UKUGA
September 27th, 2012
9:48 am
Sylvester Bill,
The IBEW lot is where I used to park. I don’t think it’s a “Braves” lot now, I just don’t know that they are still letting people pay to park there.
Last time I went (Rockies series – day after Labor Day), the lot was about 70% full of cars with people mulling about, but no one was there to take money. I suspect I could’ve gotten away with parking and walking away, but I have an aversion to having my car towed.
The next time I go, I plan to drive by there again and see, but something makes me think that they are no longer renting out that lot during games. If so, it’s a shame, because it really was one of the best places to park – and cheap.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
9:49 am
Probably the most interesting aspect of the post-season will be watching Medlen and Minor under the big lights. One guy back from the bullpen and the other back from a starter’s abyss, and the team asking each of them to make the four or five biggest starts of their lives. And, oh by the way, win them. Neither of them with 50 ML starts.
Yowsah.
Murph
September 27th, 2012
9:50 am
Hanson will give up no less than 2 HR tonight, although no more than 4… but the Braves will win anyways.
Great game last night from Maholm. That was nice to see. The whole 4 hits thing was a little disturbing, but a win is a win is a win.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
9:50 am
I believe Minor has been much better at home, so that could happen.
This year… 3.47 ERA at home 5.14 ERA away. Opponents hit him at a .220/.286/.344/.629 clip at home, and .251/.313/.489/.801 away. Same trend if you look at his career.
As I just checked the stats, it broke my heart to see that even with all his struggles earlier this year, Mike Minor has outperformed Tommy Hanson… yea, his ERA was higher before (it’s not anymore), but opponents don’t hit him as hard as they do Tommy. Has to be an injury. And Mike Minor is 24, 1st professional season. Tommy is 25 in his 4th.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
9:53 am
Efrim, assuming the Braves don’t win the division, and win the wild card game, it would be Sunday and Monday at home, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday on the road.
Thanks, Brian. I should be able to catch all of the games – which is nice. Really hope we get there.
Murph
September 27th, 2012
9:54 am
Efrim and scoots, what are your takes on the very real possibility that Teheran starts out next year at AAA for a 3rd year in a row?
I know he’s still just a baby, but spending 3 years at one level in the minors has got to have some effect on his psyche, doesn’t it? I’ve wondered if part of the reason why he had such a down year this year was not winning a spot in the rotation out of spring training… seems like a season-long pout didn’t do the kid any favors…. if that’s part of his problem, which I don’t know that it is/was.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
9:55 am
would you really trade Maholm this offseason?
I don’t know that I would, personally. Or the Braves, either. I just think that it’s one avenue that could be explored, depending on how they view their priorities and how they allocate their resources. Go big on pitching and you’re looking at slotting Minor at 4, which is pretty strong, and I can’t see them paying Maholm to be a fifth starter, in that scenario.
GTI in Brooklyn
September 27th, 2012
9:56 am
It’s good to see the Bravos finishing up the season on a strong run (16-7, so far this month). Last September is well documented, but they also finished weakly in 2010, going 13-14 in September, and only clinching the WC on the last day of the season after having played 1st place baseball through late summer.
Dadgum....
September 27th, 2012
10:01 am
I would start Hudson without question in game 1 if we make it. Minor game 2. Medlen game 3. Maholm game 4. Bring Hudson back for game 5. Medlen would be set for starting the NL series if all that falls into place.
Hanson and Sheets (obviously) will be off the roster. The above pitchers will be the post-season pitchers. Delgado probably goes to the pen.
Dadgum....
September 27th, 2012
10:01 am
I would start Hudson without question in game 1 if we make it. Minor game 2. Medlen game 3. Maholm game 4. Bring Hudson back for game 5. Medlen would be set for starting the NL series if all that falls into place.
Hanson and Sheets (obviously) will be off the roster. The above pitchers will be the post-season pitchers. Delgado probably goes to the pen.
David O'Brien
September 27th, 2012
10:01 am
By the way, Braves (90-65) are now tied with Yankees and Giants for 4th-best record in majors.
ncscoots
September 27th, 2012
10:03 am
what are your takes on the very real possibility that Teheran starts out next year at AAA for a 3rd year in a row?
I don’t think it kills him. Maybe he goes down to instructionals after the season to work on some stuff, maybe he just puts this year in the rearview and spits as it goes by. Next year is next year, and I think he gets every chance to get a spot in ST. Assuming he isn’t traded in the offseason, and I really-really-really hope they don’t do that.
But if he ends up in AAA, then he just has to pitch well enough down there to make them regret the decision. He’s going to end up in the bigs somewhere, and I’m guessing he’s smart enough to kno wthat.
Dadgum....
September 27th, 2012
10:05 am
Damn double post! Said my post didn’t connect to the server. Hit resend. Sorry!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 27th, 2012
10:05 am
Delgado in the ‘pen? Meh. Guess it’d be okay. I think Gearrin has earned a spot too.
Efrim
September 27th, 2012
10:07 am
Go big on pitching and you’re looking at slotting Minor at 4, which is pretty strong, and I can’t see them paying Maholm to be a fifth starter, in that scenario.
Yeah, I guess it all depends on the allocation of salary. One thing is clear, just can’t see Tommy Hanson on the team next year. I think they will absolutely find a trade partner that is willing ot give fair value for the kid.
Brian from SC
September 27th, 2012
10:10 am
The Braves have hit another season low in team ERA. Down to 3.49 for the year, 3.26 in 125 games since May 8th, 2.62 in 60 games since July 23rd.
Bat Masterson
September 27th, 2012
10:10 am
As I just checked the stats, it broke my heart to see that even with all his struggles earlier this year, Mike Minor has outperformed Tommy Hanson
How does the challenge deal work? Can one challenge sincerity?