(Staff writer Carroll Rogers is filling in for David O’Brien today.)
So here we are. Final homestand of the season, final regular season homestand ever for Chipper Jones, and the buildup begins in earnest toward Friday night’s tribute to the retiring third baseman.
Both Hank Aaron and Dale Murphy mentioned to me in conversations for a story in our special section (coming Sunday!!) that they’ll be there Friday for the event. There are only standing room only tickets left at this point. So there are going to be goose bumps all around, maybe even if the press box, where they aren’t allowed.

oh, the goodbyes are coming...
No better way for the Braves to kick it off than by clinching a playoff berth?
It would just be in keeping with the drama that Chipper and the Braves have put together for his farewell season, don’t you think? The Braves magic number to clinch at least a wild card spot is one, so if they beat the Marlins tonight, they’re in, pop the champagne and party like it’s 1999, or 1998, or 1997…
For those of us who stunk at probability in math, we still had to get some help on what happens if the Braves lose tonight. They can still clinch if both the Brewers and Dodgers lose, to the Reds and Padres, respectively. (Actually when working on a chart below, I was reminded about 2000, when the Braves had to call the commissioner’s office to verify that they could clinch that night. Don’t feel so bad anymore.)
But with young Kris Medlen on the mound going for his own piece of history tonight, the Braves are hoping nobody around here will have to wait up to see if the Padres beat the Dodgers out on the west coast.
Medlen is trying to become only the third pitcher in the live ball era (since 1920) to lead his team to 22 straight victories. Carl Hubbell of the Giants did it in 1936-1937, when the Giants were playing in New York (and lost in back-to-back World Series to the Yankees), and Whitey Ford did it in 1950 and 1953 in and around two years he spent serving in the Korean War.
(I actually came across a quote from Whitey Ford about his military service: “Army life was rough. Would you believe it, they actually wanted me to pitch three times a week.” Way.)
A lot has been written about Medlen in these past few weeks and there’s more coming. In case you missed it, here were DOB’s insights yesterday from his off day story, with some pretty priceless stuff from Medlen.
I dug up something Medlen said to me during the Braves last homestand, and I thought it gave great insight into why he is pitching the way he is – he’s in full-out attack mode.
“Guys think I’m a small guy,” said Medlen, who’s listed at 5-10. “I’m just going to try and trick them to death, but I’m coming at you. I’m coming at you. Just because you’re looking for a fastball doesn’t mean you’re going to hit it good if I locate it and use in and out. Just have confidence with it.”
Marlins match-up
Tonight’s Marlins starter, young right-hander Nate Eovaldi, is no picnic, even though his record says he’s lost 12 games, and the Braves know it. They just faced him last Wednesday in Miami and got shut out for eight innings, in what was the best outing on his career.
The Braves lost that night in extra innings for their only loss in the series. Eovaldi was throwing 97, 98 mph in the eighth inning, and he gave up only four singles.
The Marlins have lost four in a row, including a three-game sweep by the Mets, and in the last 24 hours they’ve been dealing with fallout from reliever Heath Bell calling out manager Ozzie Guillen in a radio interview. Talk about drama.
The Marlins have enough on their hands facing Medlen for the second straight outing, after he pitched eight shutout innings against them to beat ace Josh Johnson 3-0 on Wednesday. Medlen held Jose Reyes hitless in three at-bats that night and to me, that’s the key for beating the Marlins.
Braves clinchers in the past:

The iconic photo after the 1991 clincher
I was thinking that the Braves have clinched against the Marlins in the past and wanted to jog my memory. Yep they did in 2004, and in 2001 (whoa, remember that score?) Not sure quite why I decided to spend the time to look all this up, but since I did, peruse away! I go back to the day that Greg Olson, jumped into John Smoltz’s arms just for a little reference.
2010, Oct. 3, home vs. Phillies, 8-7 on last day of season
2005, Sept. 27, home vs. Rockies, 12-3
2004 Sept. 24, home vs. Marlins, 8-7
2003 Sept. 18, on an off day, when Phillies beat Marlins
2002 Sept. 9, on an off day when Mets beat Phillies
2001 Oct. 5, home vs. Marlins 20-3
2000 Sept 26, in New York vs. Mets 7-1 in makeup game
1999 Sept. 26, in Montreal vs. Expos, 10-0
1998 Sept. 14 home vs. Phillies, 4-2
1997 Sept. 22 home vs. Expos 3-2 in 11 innings
1996 Sept. 22 home vs Expos 8-2
1995 Sept 13 in Colorado, 9-7
1993 Oct. 3, home vs. Rockies, 5-3 on last day of season
1992 Sept. 29, home vs. Giants, 6-0
1991 Oct. 5, home vs. Astros, 5-2
Status on Chipper
For those coming near and far to see Chipper Jones play his last six regular season home games, if at all humanly possible, he’s going to play every game of this homestand.
From his twitter account, @realcj10: “Im playing every day this week…..get ur butts to the Ted!!!”
A couple of notable numbers for Jones: his next hit ties him with Roberto Alomar (2,724) for 57th place on the all-time hit list. If he gets three RBIs in the next three games against the Marlins he’ll tie Dale Murphy’s Atlanta record for most career RBIs against one opponent. Jones has 165 RBIs in his career vs. Marlins. Murphy had 168 RBIs against the Padres in his 15 seasons as a Brave.
I, for one, can’t believe we’re down to six home games for Chipper. But I’ve save the nostalgia for a blog another day. For now, I’ll just say lineups and an update on the status of Michael Bourn’s thumb, when I get to the ballpark this afternoon.
1,254 comments Add your comment
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
2:03 pm
Thanks Carroll!! Or is it Carolll (3 Ls)?
I saw your tweet earlier.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
2:06 pm
Meds on the bump, we’ll win and clinch tonight. Chipper goes yicketty in the 1st with a 3-run HR to tie those records. Breaks them in the 3rd.
Go Braves! Go Chipper!
Jon
September 25th, 2012
2:08 pm
Roll Tide!
ncscoots
September 25th, 2012
2:09 pm
O’Brien, are you going to the ballpark, just as a fan, for Chipper’s last home games?
JoshTown
September 25th, 2012
2:10 pm
Thanks Carroll! Got tickets for this Friday (upper deck, grr), and the Friday Wild Card game on Oct. 5th. Every get out to the Ted and show some love for #10!
rammerjammer
September 25th, 2012
2:18 pm
KC needs starting pitching and has a fine, young third baseman. In the off season, deal Minor and Francisco for Moustakas.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
2:20 pm
Don’t give them Minor. Hanson is the one who’s “expensive”. Of course, Hanson and Francisco ain’t getting us much….
Meg Griffin
September 25th, 2012
2:28 pm
Mr. Rogers how do you feel about the braves if they lose the play in game?
rammerjammer
September 25th, 2012
2:29 pm
TOBF, exactly. To get, you gotta give. Minor leaves, you still have Hudson, Hanson, Delgado, Medlen and Maholm. Maybe Teheran. Then Beachy later in the season.
REMLEY
September 25th, 2012
2:32 pm
Thanks for the list of clinching games Carroll. Was a fun trip done memory lane!
Reid in EAV
September 25th, 2012
2:34 pm
I’m there Wednesday, Friday and Sunday. I’d go tonight, Thursday and Saturday if I could — and I really could, but only if I wanted to get divorced.
Gustopher
September 25th, 2012
2:39 pm
Great blog Carroll. Looking forward to the special Chipper section on Sunday
chipontheroad
September 25th, 2012
2:41 pm
Moose tacas would be a good get but Minor ain’t going no where
JNick
September 25th, 2012
2:43 pm
Why on earth would you trade Francisco and Minor for a player who is marginally (if at all) better than Francisco? Teheran and Delgado should be traded before Minor…and if you look at Francisco’s stats MINUS his PH numbers, you have this:
.284 BA, .316 OBP, .534 SLG – 7HR, 23RBI in 116 ABs
Dude deserves a full shot at the 3B job next year. Take away that one inning earlier in the year where he made 3 errors, and he’s only had 2 errors in about 340 innings.
Tumbledown
September 25th, 2012
2:45 pm
I would be extremely hesitant to include Minor in any deal. He is emerging to be a quality lefthander. Such players do not grow on trees.
Gustopher
September 25th, 2012
2:50 pm
That is Ms. Rogers Meg Griffin
TennesseePaul
September 25th, 2012
2:50 pm
Thanks for the work CR.
GO CHIPPER!!!!
GO BRAVES!!
GTI in Brooklyn
September 25th, 2012
2:51 pm
A modest assessment of potential pitcher & team match-ups for the Braves in a 1-game playoff on Oct. 5th (Including rotation alignments and September records/stats):
CARDINALS:
ACES – LOHSE is the ace this year, while WAINWRIGHT has the proven track-record, but WAINWRIGHT is having an average year (13-13 with a 4.07 era, including 0-2, 4.88 in Sept.). Both pitched an average game against the Braves earlier this year (though both games were 4 months ago). Both are right handers. LOHSE last started on Sunday. Should the Cardinals need to win game 162 to make the playoffs, he could be used for that game, but if they have clinched by then, he could easily be held for the WC game on the 5th. (However, WAINWRIGHT pitched on Saturday and his last regular turn would come up for game 162, Leaving Lohse for the WC play-in. That would seem to be a more likely scenario.)
HITTERS – It’s a tough lineup (I’d hate to be facing Mr. BELTRAN in the late innings with the game on the line), BUT they are currently easing their way into the post-season. They are 7-3 in their last 10 games, but just 12-10 in September, but have picked on a lot of bottom feeding teams lately. Someone else noted here that the Cards stand to be the only team in the playoffs with a losing road record, a losing record against RHPs, a losing record against teams over .500, and the only team with a losing record to the Braves. (1-5 against the Braves in 2 May series.) Their offensive numbers for the month of September, across the board, sit right in the middle of the 16 team league – except that they rank moderately well with HRs and BBs. They have not faced MEDLEN as a starter this year. He pitched 3 innings against them in relief back in May.
BREWERS:
ACES – YOVANI GALLARDO is their ace, but MARCO ESTRADA had been their best pitcher in September, with a 1.75 ERA in 4 Sept. starts – that is UNTIL his start last night against the Nats when he gave up 8Hs and 6ERs in only 4IP. (The Braves faced him in MIL on 9/11 and he gave up 0R on 4H, 1BB & 6K in 6.2IP.) Both pitchers are Right-Handed. With the Brewers loss last night, they might have to fight until the final game to earn a WC slot. GALLARDO last pitched on Sunday and his rotation spot is currently scheduled for the Brewers’ 162nd game on the 3rd. ESTRADA is pitching right after him in the rotation and would be in line to start the WC game on the 5th (with an extra day of rest).
HITTERS – The Brewers are still fearsome on the road, but they really are a different team away from MIL. Luckily, it seems we’d get to face them in Atlanta. BIG difference. The Brewers are 46-29 in MIL, but only 32-44 on the road. They also have not faced the MED-MAN as a starter this year (he pitched 2 innings in 2 games against them in relief back in April). The Braves are 3-3 against the Brewers, with ATL sweeping at home back in April, and MIL sweeping at home 10 days ago.
DODGERS:
ACES – Lots of danger for the Braves here, as 2 of the Dodgers top starters are Left-Handed, KERSHAW and CAPUANO – and KERSHAW would be dangerous anyway, because he is one of the very best pitchers in all of baseball. KERSHAW, however, is currently dealing with a “hip issue” which has him out of the rotation. His health status is a question mark, but he did turn in a very solid 5 Inning start in a win over the Reds Sunday night (5IP, 5H, 5BB, 5K, 1ER) IF he proves healthy (and his old self) his rotation spot could be used for game 162 or the WC game. The Dodgers though, like the Brewers, would likely have to fight all the way to the final game to get in, making it tough to set their rotation for the 5th.
CAPUANO is less deadly than KERSHAW, but any Lefty is a threat to the Braves in a 1-game playoff. He did have a modest Quality Start against the Braves while taking a no decision back in August, but is also 0-1 with an ERA over 5 in September.
HITTERS – The Dodgers have what should be an impressive lineup, but they are only 8-11 in September and – surprisingly – are last in the league with both a .224 team average and a .615 team OPS. They are also last for the month in Runs, BBs, SLG, OBP, and next to last in HR. (Though, to be fair, the Braves don’t rank a whole lot higher in most of those categories.)
MEDLEN faced only 3 batters in 2/3 INN of relief against the Dodgers back in April, and they haven’t seen him live since. The Braves went 2-1 in LA back in April and 1-2 against them in ATL in August.
PHILLIES:
Luckily, our weekend series against them looks to have taken away any reasonable chance of them pulling out some kind of miracle run. We don’t even want to think about all the hurt they could have put us through in a one game playoff.
BravePack(FreeFan)
September 25th, 2012
2:52 pm
What’s up old friends? Who’s ready for Braves playoff baseball? Looks like it’s redemption time as I think we will be playing St. Louis to move on.
I’m trying to keep my mind off the joke that is the NFL. Man was I pissed last night. No matter the Pack will use this as a wake up call.
monty
September 25th, 2012
2:53 pm
Francisco doesn’t hit LHP around .550 OPS so he can’t really be an everyday player,at least not yet or any time real soon.
JNick
September 25th, 2012
2:54 pm
Coach always said, never let the game (or match) be so close that you put the outcome in a ref’s hands…
ncscoots
September 25th, 2012
2:54 pm
Why on earth would you trade Francisco and Minor for a player [Moustakas] who is marginally (if at all) better than Francisco?
Wow. Talk about scouting a stat line. That’s the only reason I can imagine that you would mention Juan Francisco in the same breath as Mike Moustakas.
space monkey
September 25th, 2012
2:55 pm
Clinch what? A 50-50 chance at the playoffs. We haven’t clinched until we have won the wild card play-in game.
Tumbledown
September 25th, 2012
2:56 pm
Whoever the Braves play in the wild card game, they got to bite the bullet and come up with the goods. While many will be scrutizing every move made by Fredi, I will focus on player execution. Gotta make the pitches and come up with timely hitting.
Murph
September 25th, 2012
2:57 pm
BP! Where ya been?? You need to stop by the ol’ waterin’ hole more often my friend.
Sorry about last night.
Cracker
September 25th, 2012
2:58 pm
Eovaldi is tough; Medlen is tough. I love pitching duels, and this shapes up as a good one. I’m amped.
ugafan13
September 25th, 2012
2:58 pm
I am all for trading JJ and Hanson. They both are exoendable as far as I am concerned. Both are only good for half a season pitching!
ncscoots
September 25th, 2012
2:59 pm
While many will be scrutizing every move made by Fredi
I think Fredo will be OK, unless he gets caught up in the moment and starts throwing pitching matchups out there right and left. You know, that “urgency” thing.
Meg Griffin
September 25th, 2012
3:00 pm
Oops thought it Ms. Rogers was a guy : (
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
3:04 pm
JJ is untradeable, Hanson is very hard to trade. Nontender JJ and try to trade Hanson for a valuable prospect ( a “Salary Relief” type prospect)
ncscoots
September 25th, 2012
3:05 pm
Eovaldi is tough; Medlen is tough.
Eovaldi has the affliction of most young pitchers, trying to get it right more than once in a row. No way to know if he’ll show up as the August 2nd guy or the September 18th guy.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
3:05 pm
a valuable prospect or a salary relief prospect (which I think is more likely)
JNick
September 25th, 2012
3:06 pm
@ncscoots, hype doesn’t get you anything in this league. Production does…
as for Francisco not hitting lefties, he really hasn’t been given a chance, with Fredi’s love of platoons….
Shaun
September 25th, 2012
3:08 pm
ncscoots, even looking at the stat line, there is not much of an indication Francisco is likely to have the better career than Moustakas.
Yes, Francisco has a 100 career OPS+ to Moustakas’ 90 career OPS+ but Moustakas is in his age 23 season and Francisco is in his age 25 season, Francisco has 22 career walks and Moustakas had 22 walks in his age 22 season when he played only 89 games.
ncscoots
September 25th, 2012
3:08 pm
and as my assigned agent, and my standing 6-4, looks like you’ll have to shop me sround
Jack, I’ve been a little tardy on my agenting. I’ll get on that, but you’re right…looks as if you’re KC bound, LOL.
JNick
September 25th, 2012
3:10 pm
Moustakas has also been dreadful since the ASB this year….generally, you look for players to IMPROVE with experience….
ncscoots
September 25th, 2012
3:11 pm
hype doesn’t get you anything in this league. Production does…
Hype doesn’t have much to do with it, I’m afraid. Simple observation of the skillsets of the two players (if you know what to look for and have the ability to analyze what you see) tells a pretty clear story on the relative value of the two players.
Venice Jim
September 25th, 2012
3:14 pm
Atlanta Braves @Braves
Tonight’s lineup vs. MIA (7:10, SPSO/680AM/BRN): Johnson 8 Prado 7 Heyward 9 Jones 5 Freeman 3 Uggla 4 McCann 2 Simmons 6 Medlen 1
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
3:14 pm
Atlanta Braves @Braves
Tonight’s lineup vs. MIA (7:10, SPSO/680AM/BRN): Johnson 8 Prado 7 Heyward 9 Jones 5 Freeman 3 Uggla 4 McCann 2 Simmons 6 Medlen 1
Another day off for Bourn, but hey, Mac’s back!
rammerjammer
September 25th, 2012
3:14 pm
KC feels just as strongly about Moose as ATL feels about Minor. Emerging star, next wave and all that. Point is, we have an abundance of starting pitching, but no one (save Martin) who can play 3B next season. Francisco, I’m afraid, is one of those guys with perpetual potential. Maybe he’ll develop late, but right now he’s all hack and jack.
Brian from SC
September 25th, 2012
3:14 pm
Cleveland has jumped on Chicago 4-0 over the AL Central. That one’s coming down to wire, and neither the Sox nor Detroit will sniff the wild card.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
3:15 pm
ninja’d. Shouldn’t have typed anything below….
JNick
September 25th, 2012
3:17 pm
I’m not a professional scout like you obviously are, but doing the reading I have, he doesn’t drum up any level of excitement IMO…especially not the kind that it would take for a GM to trade a Mike Minor – unless you’re talking about getting Trout in return, I say Minor is as untradable as Medlen.
Brian from SC
September 25th, 2012
3:17 pm
Best way for the playoff format to change: the Yankees lose the one-game wild card playoff. I’m rooting for that one.
Murph
September 25th, 2012
3:17 pm
I like the Bourn-less lineup a lot… gonna be a good game tonight, I can feel it… the tingle is back.
Shaun
September 25th, 2012
3:17 pm
Moustakas has also been dreadful since the ASB this year….generally, you look for players to IMPROVE with experience….
A player’s development is often a perfect incline in to their peak. He just turned 24 two weeks ago.
Murph
September 25th, 2012
3:18 pm
Best way for the playoff format to change: the Yankees lose the one-game wild card playoff. I’m rooting for that one.
Can’t tell you how much I want to see that happen.
David O'Brien
September 25th, 2012
3:20 pm
Just filed my Chipper column for the special section, which will be in Sunday’s AJC. Carroll has a big Chipper career story in the section, and Schultz and Bradley also have columns. Lots of good stuff in there. Should be a nice keepsake.
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
3:20 pm
So…
When should we start worrying that Bourn’s thumb is like Jason’s was last year?
Oh, and once again, to anyone who is suggesting the Cards aren’t going to be the 2nd WC team…
Cards play .500 ball over last 8 games and the Dodgers or Brewers have to go 8-1 over final 9….
Good luck MIL and LA on accomplishing that!
TennesseePaul
September 25th, 2012
3:20 pm
Last 9 Starts of the Starting 9
_________AVG__OBP__SLG___OPS_wOBA_L9S9+
Reed___ .324 .324 .353 0.676 .328 __103
Prado__ .406 .486 .469 0.955 .426 __188
Heyward .222 .237 .361 0.598 .278 ___78
Chipper .281 .395 .313 0.707 .317 __115
Freeman .273 .297 .576 0.873 .352 __157
Uggla__ .233 .351 .433 0.785 .343 __135
McCann_ .194 .257 .323 0.580 .256 ___73
Simmons .296 .364 .333 0.697 .317 __111
Medlen_ .143 .250 .190 0.440 .200 ___34
Shaun
September 25th, 2012
3:22 pm
JNick, right, I think the problem is with the part of the statement that said “[Moustakas] who is marginally (if at all) better than Francisco.”
I think you are right that giving up Minor (plus anything else) would make it a deal breaker for the Braves.
Efrim
September 25th, 2012
3:22 pm
Not saying it’s wrong, but folks are hungry for results so much earlier in players careers. No one cares about peak years and what not. It’s sad, imo. Perhaps because of the success of young players like Mike Trout and Giancarlo Stanton. Although, ya know, that’s 2 players out of hundreds, thousands…..
And there is something wrong with someone who feels Mike friggin Moustakas is at the same level of Juan Francisco.
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
3:22 pm
DOB-
Glad I’ll be down in the area so that I can pick up a few to take home
Maybe I’ll see you down on the field Sat?
ncscoots
September 25th, 2012
3:22 pm
I’m not a professional scout like you obviously are, but doing the reading I have, he doesn’t drum up any level of excitement IMO
Well, I’m not a professional scout, just observant. Hey, if what you want to go with in public is “Juan Francisco is at least as good a player as Mike Moustakas”, you’re welcome to do so. Who am I to say you nay?
I didn’t suggest trading Minor, by the way. I was only responding to your assertion that one player was only “marginally better” than the other, as assertion with which I disagree.
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
3:23 pm
TP-
Heyward and BMac need to get it goin according to your post…
Well, that and it tells me putting Reed in there isn’t exactly a downgrade
Efrim
September 25th, 2012
3:24 pm
I’d try and keep Hosmer, Moustakas, Myers, Escobar, Perez if I were the Royals. Try and use other assets to acquire starting pitching. And of course, not trading young starters like Jake Odorizzi away.
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
3:25 pm
Efrim-
Agreed….
But what also happens if they have that one year and then are anointed the keys to the city and then go the way of Jeff Francoeur?!
Whatever happened to reserving the first FEW years of a guys career to decide what kind of talent they may have….
I mean Christ….not everyone can be Albert Pujols!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
3:25 pm
Heyward .222 .237
Freeman .273 .297
More noticeable on Heyward, but the differences between their BA and OBP is very very small.
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
3:26 pm
Efrim-
I’d add Gordon to that list….
In fact, I’d place him higher than a couple you mentioned.
Efrim
September 25th, 2012
3:26 pm
I was only responding to your assertion that one player was only “marginally better” than the other, as assertion with which I disagree.
Boy, that’s a nice way of saying it….
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
3:27 pm
TOBF-
Tells me either they are tiring, teams are working them over real well near end of long season, OR theyre being way too aggressive IN and OUT of strike zone
Efrim
September 25th, 2012
3:29 pm
I keep forgetting about Gordon. Yes, I’d keep him and Butler too.
Hosmer, Moustakas, Gordon, Escobar, Perez, Myers and Butler. Good lord, that’s a lot of position player talent.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
3:29 pm
And of course, not trading young starters like Jake Odorizzi away.
And don’t pick up “older” declining starters either…
ncscoots
September 25th, 2012
3:29 pm
You guys really ought to try to remember that TennPaul does that L9S9 thing as a goof, and stop thinking that a week’s worth of games has much informative value.
Efrim
September 25th, 2012
3:31 pm
You guys really ought to try to remember that TennPaul does that L9S9 thing as a goof, and stop thinking that a week’s worth of games has much informative value.
Have you discussed this with TenneseePaul?
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
3:32 pm
I’d add Gordon to that list….
It’d be good for them to add Gordon to the list, but if we can’t get Willingham, and we do get a RH CF, I wouldn’t mind Frank getting this guy. Good hitter, Prado-like numbers, except against lefties, where he struggles a bit.
Efrim
September 25th, 2012
3:32 pm
Heyward has 6 BB’s in his last 30 games, 130 PA’s.
Heisenberg
September 25th, 2012
3:35 pm
A RH fastball pitcher is usually the type of guy Braves hit. I would be surprised if Eovaldi has a shutout through 8 tonight.
ncscoots
September 25th, 2012
3:35 pm
Hosmer, Moustakas, Gordon, Escobar, Perez, Myers and Butler. Good lord, that’s a lot of position player talent.
…which is why they won’t start trading it away for pitching. That would be self-defeating. There’s still pitching talent in their system, too, they just need some experience on their ML staff. But even with rotation upgrades, they know that they aren’t going to suddenly have a top 5 pitching staff, so they’re still going to have to rely on their offense to supply most of their run differential.
Shaun
September 25th, 2012
3:35 pm
Efrim, I think some don’t realize how difficult it is to be a stand-out major leaguer on a consistent basis and how solid even a 93 OPS+ is for a thirdbaseman. Moustakas actually hasn’t been all that bad a player. Sometimes folks just see what they view as bad stats and don’t realize that relative to other players, those stats really aren’t all that bad.
P-Town Brave, I think a lot of what you’re talking about is evaluating incorrectly more than evaluating too soon. In the case of Francoeur, for example, it wasn’t that he was anointed too soon. It’s that folks didn’t realize what kind of player he was and they anointed him based on their flawed ways of evaluating.
Efrim
September 25th, 2012
3:35 pm
Good hitter, Prado-like numbers, except against lefties, where he struggles a bit.
Do folks plan on hitting Prado in the middle of the order? If not, then why are we calling for LHH’s that don’t hit LHP well? It’s going to be a problem. It has been this year and it’s shown, as the offense has been sorta mediocre.
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
3:35 pm
Oh and btw…..Mike Minor isn’t going anywhere…if they wanted to trade him, they more than likely would have done it by now….
Hanson has little value so theyd be selling low based on his numbers on both 2012 and his 2013 contract…
And JJ….WTF are ppl still talking about him for?! I am 100% stone cold lock sure he will be non-tendered the day after the MLB season ends.
Murph
September 25th, 2012
3:36 pm
stop thinking that a week’s worth of games has much informative value.
I don’t understand… if baseball is a game of streaks, which I believe you’ve alluded to in the past, then knowing who is trending upwards and who is trending downwards holds some value, does it not? It’s at least more valuable than knowing what a player did in April, which doesn’t seem to be all that relevant to what he’s doing now.
wow
September 25th, 2012
3:36 pm
the braves should retire his number friday night!!!
Efrim
September 25th, 2012
3:38 pm
I’m not really worried about Hosmer or Moustakas. If I’m a Royals fan, I’m excited as heck to have better performance than expected from Salvy Perez and Alcides Escobar. Add in the latter two, and the Royals are going to score lots and lots of runs.
They also have a lot of pen arms that are going to miss bats. Just need veteran starters, as scoots said.
Now would be the time for the owner to open up the wallet and spend on pitching. Would love to see Greinke re-sign with them. Would be a great story.
Efrim
September 25th, 2012
3:40 pm
I don’t think they are trading Minor, or Gilmartin, for that matter. Both of those guys were Wren’s picks – Minor absolutely was given the timeframe of the draft and it being right before DeMacio was brought in. Wren likes his LHP’s……
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
3:41 pm
Shaun-
No….not what I am saying….
They saw the HR and RBI numbers and assumed he’d consistently put up those numbers….
The pitchers adjusted accordingly and he didn’t…..
Just like when teams started pounding Andrew Jones outside and he didn’t adjust…..
A lot of becoming a good hitter in 1 year could be much of a fluke it seems….
But continuity of being a good hitter, that involves much preparation and constantly making adjustments…..some guys just don’t do that…..
Moose is still fairly young and still has a chance to become a solid player….and what he has working against him is what every solid young lefty does…..and thats figuring out how to combat the opponent and their use of the situational lefty….
Will he be the next coming of Brett….nah, but I think he’ll be just fine
ncscoots
September 25th, 2012
3:41 pm
then knowing who is trending upwards and who is trending downwards holds some value, does it not?
Nine games is more of a data point than a trend. Some folks here seem to think it’s a motherlode of information, rather than a nugget. That’s all I was saying.
Aguy could scorch for an entire month, have a bad series, and his recent stats could look crappy.
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
3:44 pm
Efrim-
If we got say a Denard Span for CF and a 8 hitter for LF for 2013 I think the Braves could bat Prado 5th/6th if they wanted to next year as it would allow them to place Simmons in the 2 hole and allow Prado more a chance to drive in runs and lessen giving himself up from being in the 2 hole
Efrim
September 25th, 2012
3:45 pm
Ya know what I’m not for this offseason?
Signing Kevin Youkilis to play 3rd base. Just something about the guy…..bugs me.
Shaun
September 25th, 2012
3:46 pm
I don’t understand… if baseball is a game of streaks, which I believe you’ve alluded to in the past, then knowing who is trending upwards and who is trending downwards holds some value, does it not? It’s at least more valuable than knowing what a player did in April, which doesn’t seem to be all that relevant to what he’s doing now.
There isn’t a way to know if a player is trending, assuming reasonable health, etc. All we can really know is what kind of player a guy has been. What he’s done in the recent past can’t tell us what he’s likely to do in the near future.
We should use stats to help us get a picture of what kind of player a guy is. Stats don’t give us information about trends because what type of player a guy is tells us a lot more about what he’s likely to do in the near future, rather than what he’s done in his last x number of games or plate appearances or whatever.
If Chipper is 2 for his last 12 and Juan Francisco is 8 for his last 12, I’d still rather have Chipper at the plate. This is why small sample sizes aren’t very informative.
JoeBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
3:46 pm
The Royals LOVE former Braves players…maybe they’d take Hanson and Fransisco off our hands for Moustakas. That way, we can leave Prado at 2nd and see if someone wants to take Uggly off our hands. Minor isn’t going anywhere unless Wren gets blown away by an offer for him. Spend the money saved on retaining Bourn. If we can’t keep him, put Constanza in CF and go after a LF with some punch.
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
3:46 pm
Scoots-
Yeah, but if the Brewers or Dodgers went nuts for the next 9 games and somehow miraculously made the 1 game play-in you’d have to think differently…..
In fact, from playing ball, all it took was 1 or 2 good (or bad) series for me to trend a certain direction….
Heisenberg
September 25th, 2012
3:47 pm
Agree with others JJJ is a non-tender candidate. I suspect he is looking a minor league deals as his best option for 2013. But somehow it would not surprise me if in a couple years he re-emerges as a solid #2-3 somewhere. His stuff was too good. If he spends some time getting his body and head healthy, I believe he can still be a very good pitcher for someone.
Hansen is another case. He is regressing and it does not look to me he could be no more than a #3 on a bad team or a #5/long relief on a average team. At this point I have a hard time seeing where anyone would want to trade for him considering the arb salary he will get. Braves should cut losses here as well and non-tender. I could be wrong though. After all there was a taker for Joe Johnson.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
3:49 pm
Do folks plan on hitting Prado in the middle of the order?
Well he does seem to have a bit more power potential than Prado. He hit 23 HR last year. He has only 12 this year though (Prado has 9)
At worst, he can hit 3rd in the order (which is where Fredi might put Willingham if we got him)
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 25th, 2012
3:50 pm
Let’s have some serious payback against EOVALDI tonight.
rammerjammer
September 25th, 2012
3:50 pm
KC isn’t going to trade Moustakas…but I wish they would. He means even more to them than Minor does to us.
Heisenberg
September 25th, 2012
3:51 pm
Shaun
September 25th, 2012
3:46 pm
Substitute player for stock equity and you could get a guest appearance on sqwak box.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
3:51 pm
And Efrim thought I was harsh on Tommy Hanson.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 25th, 2012
3:52 pm
Why would ANY of you think MIKE MINOR is trade material?
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
3:52 pm
Candidate?
Thats selling it low Heisey…..
JJ is already done…
And I don’t think I can agree w/ you on the 2/3 starter statement….
His FB is way down and all he has is now predicated on pinpoint command….
He’s now a 4/5 at best and thats for a mediocre team when his control is good
I think JJ and Hanson are in close to the same boat….they both have physical ailments and are both mentally flawed at this point….
And I do agree with you on that last point though….I cant see either being close to the 5th best option for the Braves in 2013….
Heisenberg
September 25th, 2012
3:57 pm
Either way P-Town, I do not expect them to be on Braves roster much longer. If they are someone should lose his job.
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
3:57 pm
too bad that great discussion about defense got stuck on the last blog because nobody I saw bothered to tell us a new one was up
Trader Jack
September 25th, 2012
3:59 pm
scoots
KC no problem – just get me the best deal possible, you know I still have some bullets left in the old arm – LOL
Shaun
September 25th, 2012
3:59 pm
P-Town Brave, yes, folks doing the anointing saw Francoeur’s homers and RBI and probably his athleticism and they ignored his hitting, his power and his plate discipline and command of the strike zone. It was about wrongly evaluating more than evaluating him too soon.
It wasn’t that Francoeur failed to make adjustments. It’s that he didn’t have the combination of hitting, power, plate discipline and command of the zone to be a very good major league player. It wasn’t a lack of patience in evaluating him. It was not evaluating him correctly that led many to anoint him.
Venice Jim
September 25th, 2012
3:59 pm
Sneaky Pete – BAS did…
Murph
September 25th, 2012
3:59 pm
No matter what it’s going to be an interesting Winter Meetings this year. Can’t wait!
One-Eyed Mac
September 25th, 2012
4:02 pm
I’m coming down from DC for Friday’s game. What time does the pre-game ceremony start?
ncscoots
September 25th, 2012
4:02 pm
And Efrim thought I was harsh on Tommy Hanson
You and the other guy are just twin sons of different mothers, when it comes to Hanson.
jim
September 25th, 2012
4:02 pm
If the Braves win tonight, they only clinch the booby prize — the real WC magic number to clinch the first WC is still 4 to get the home field advantage. No real cause to celebrate tonight.
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
4:02 pm
Murph-
Do we all need to scour our couches for change for Frank again?
Heisenberg
September 25th, 2012
4:02 pm
Shaun I agree, I think people evaluated Frenchy for what they wanted him to be not what he actually was. I once stated on these blogs prior to him being traded he was destined for a journeyman career as a late inning defensive replacement and was lampooned.
ncscoots
September 25th, 2012
4:04 pm
Jack, still good for an inning, right, LOL? That’s worth a mil, in today’s market.
Trader Jack
September 25th, 2012
4:06 pm
scoots
Right and if not I can hit somebody and start a real donnybrook – ROFLMFAO
BravePack(FreeFan)
September 25th, 2012
4:07 pm
Murph and P-Town how have you guys been? Yeah I agree it’s going to be St. Louis and frankly I like it that way. I’m not scared of their starting pitching like I would be with L.A. or Milwaukee. I like our chances against them. Especially after they knocked them out last year, it’s the Braves turn this year.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
4:08 pm
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/jon-heyman/20361551/youkilis-scutaro-ichiro-top-list-of-best-15-moves-of-2012s-trading-season
14. Paul Maholm, Braves
He’s done his usual solid job, going 3-4 with a 4.09 ERA, and Ben Sheets helped too, with some nice starts after coming back from a year away. Reed Johnson, who was part of the Maholm deal (with cash), is batting a characteristic .291. Though the Braves’ best decision was obviously moving Kris Medlen to the rotation and keeping him there.
ncscoots
September 25th, 2012
4:08 pm
Shaun, I have to say that your comments on Francoeur’s evaluations by the casual, low-information fans would have more weight if you had illumined us on his liabilities during his rookie year. I don’t remember anything of the kind, unfortunately.
Dum-Bass
September 25th, 2012
4:09 pm
I agree with SPACE MONKEY, and another poster on here. Don’t think I would celebrate anything until I WON the “play-in game” TO SEE WHO THE WILDCARD IS! The way it’s set up now that’s all you’re doing. It’s not officially even the “playoffs” until the wildcard rep is determined. Think about it. It’s just one game, and you have no more than any other team if you lose. It’s, as CJ said, “STUPID” !!!!!!! If I were the manager there would be no celebrating until after that one game is won. The Braves didn’t win the division so what would they be celebrating? (They could have, with another manager)
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
4:09 pm
BP-
What up buddy….
I can’t complain….48 hrs from now I will be in Atlanta
And I’m not scared of STL the team persay, but if they beat us, I’d never NEVER hear the end of it from the guys I play ball with…..
I agree…it IS our turn and I really hope the team goes into that game with a “kill em all” attitude
Efrim
September 25th, 2012
4:10 pm
Honestly, I’m hoping Hanson is traded quickly after the season has concluded. Not sure I can take the continued bashing of the guy.
Half Empty
September 25th, 2012
4:11 pm
because it was so obvious from the start that he would have an ERA of .7 as a starter. What were they thinking all that time?
htownbravesfan
September 25th, 2012
4:11 pm
I’m in Houston and would like a copy of next Sunday’s AJC with the Chipper Jones insert. Can anyone help me out?
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
4:11 pm
Scoots-
1 inning worth a mil?
I think you’re selling those types too short….especially if he were left handed….
Hell, if Jason Marquis can get multiple multi year 8 figure contracts than we should all be worth something right?
ncscoots
September 25th, 2012
4:13 pm
Not sure I can take the continued bashing of the guy.
Just have to ignore it. It’s mostly unreasoned, anyway, so it’s not as if you’d be missing anything.
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
4:13 pm
Efrim-
Just as much as Im not sure I can see any more of his degrading the Braves uniform or getting bashed by opposing hitters….
In fact, thats part of why I am flying into ATL on Thu but have no real interest in getting tix to that game.
CB
September 25th, 2012
4:14 pm
Efrim, if it wasn’t Hanson it would be somebody. It’s what is done around here.
Shaun
September 25th, 2012
4:14 pm
Heisenberg, I’m not sure Francoeur is a good enough defensive player to be a defensive replacement. I think he’s more a platoon player.
ncscoots, I never liked Francoeur all that much and I’m pretty sure I made it clear on this blog fairly early on. Perhaps there are comments from me still out there in internet land.
Half Empty
September 25th, 2012
4:16 pm
not sure I can see any more of his degrading the Braves uniform or getting bashed by opposing hitters P-T
yes he is so much worse than dozens of pitchers we have had over the years
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
4:16 pm
A guy w/ a 4.46 ERA, a career high 26 HRA, and 1.5 WHIP that would have about 14 losses right now if not for the run support he gets and terrible peripherals….
Sure….yeah, thats unwarranted alright….
About as unwarranted as fat girls wearing stretch pants and halter tops
Leroy
September 25th, 2012
4:18 pm
Or stupid people pretending to having knowledge.
Half Empty
September 25th, 2012
4:19 pm
yeah totally unwarranted actually. typical overwrought blog hyperbole against a struggling player
Fols
September 25th, 2012
4:20 pm
Any chance you can send the Braves to Winnipeg instead of the Thrashers? By Friday? I would really like to see his last home game…in Winnipeg…
ncscoots
September 25th, 2012
4:21 pm
I’m pretty sure I made it clear on this blog fairly early on. Perhaps there are comments from me still out there in internet land.
Don’t you think that a comment pointing out that the guy was missing all the essential skills to be a front-line player, while he was hitting .300 with an OPS of .884, would be just a little bit memorable, LOL? After all, that was the ML entry that caused all the poor early evaluations of which you speak.
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
4:21 pm
I’ve always wondered, what do you do with that peg after you have won it, Fols?
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
4:24 pm
Fols-
Would you really want to do that to Chipper and his old body….Im not sure he could handle Canada….
Of course Im sure it would also greatly help Tommy Hanson’s “back” problems
JoeBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
4:24 pm
Does anyone know that status of Ben Sheets? Is he going to be able to come back for the playoffs or is he done for the year?
Trader Jack
September 25th, 2012
4:25 pm
Fols
Be careful what you wish for!
Heisenberg
September 25th, 2012
4:25 pm
“About as unwarranted as fat girls wearing stretch pants and halter tops”
**************************
I could have a long time without that image in my head. Now I gotta go find the SI page with the body painted models to try to clear it out.
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
4:25 pm
Has Hanson been terrible lately? Sure, but Minor was almost as bad as Hanson has been for a month or so early in the year and to my knowledge he had no injury related issues.
Lew
September 25th, 2012
4:25 pm
Here we go again – People actually believe that the Braves will trade all the players they no longer view as viable for all the players other teams don’t want to trade.
Happens every year.
Jeff R
September 25th, 2012
4:25 pm
I’m in Houston and would like a copy of next Sunday’s AJC with the Chipper Jones insert. Can anyone help me out?
I think you can order directly from the AJC.
rammerjammer
September 25th, 2012
4:27 pm
Pretty sure several folks said of Frenchy, “hey, is this guy ever gonna take a walk or what?” We all knew (didn’t we?) that it couldn’t last. But even the mighty SI was blinded by the light.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
4:29 pm
Hanson’s been bad the last 2 years, and it’s due to injury. That’s quite scary to me. His trends aren’t great, add in the injury risk, that’s a huge red flag to me (and any other GM, I’d think)
Honestly, I’m hoping Hanson is traded quickly after the season has concluded.
That’s something we can agree on. Though I’m not as optimistic on this happening as you are. Wonder if Tampa would take him, Delgado, and Salcedo for Shields… probs not
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
4:29 pm
“hey, is this guy ever gonna take a walk or what?” @Rammer
same thing they will say about Francisco is he starts. He will never even be a Frenchy unless he strictly platoons
Hillbilly
September 25th, 2012
4:30 pm
I first came across this blog in 2006 and Shaun was trashing Francoeur then. Granted, that wasn’t his rookie year, so I don’t know how Shaun responded to him in ‘05.
DAP
September 25th, 2012
4:32 pm
scoots stop thinking that a week’s worth of games has much informative value.
what are you talking about? it has plenty of informative value! it tells you what the lineup has done over their last 9 starts.
shaun We should use stats to help us get a picture of what kind of player a guy is
unless youre wondering what his slash line is over his last 9 starts. in that case, you go ask 10paul.
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
4:33 pm
I hope he gets traded too .
Not sure that will happen though with JJ gone and neither of the young pitchers proving all that much yet.
It wouldn’t surprise me to see one of them traded for a bat since they will likely have more trade value than Hanson.
It will be an interesting winter again.
Jeff R
September 25th, 2012
4:33 pm
Hanson’s been bad the last 2 years, and it’s due to injury.
Mostly – and poor mechanics. Or likely due to poor mechanics.
cowdogit
September 25th, 2012
4:35 pm
When Chipper retires I guess David and Carroll will be heart-broken. Obsession is the only word that comes to mind. Animal lovers don’t feel the same love for Chipper as you guys. Please give us a break and tell us about the other players.
Heisenberg
September 25th, 2012
4:35 pm
SNEAKY PETE, yes Tommy Boy has been terrible lately. Considering he has a few more years experience than Minor, it is reasonable to expect him to have a more consistent performance. Minor is still in the figuring it out stage although he should be graduating from that any day now if he does not already have that diploma. When you look at the trajectory, Hanson is heading down and Minor is trending up. Hopefully we have seen the last of the early 2012 version of Minor.
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
4:35 pm
with that low OBP, you almost have to know that Shaun trashed him from the beginning, its a saberball rule.
Jeff R
September 25th, 2012
4:37 pm
Wonder if Tampa would take him [Hanson], Delgado, and Salcedo for Shields… probs not
I think Wren will find a taker for Hanson. I’m not sure Shields is gettable, except for a higher price.
rammerjammer
September 25th, 2012
4:39 pm
This will come as a shock to some, but major league coaches are pretty good at figuring out whether a guy should play every day. The fact that Prado plays 3B when Chipper is out is all you need to know about their opinion of Francisco. Power off the bench, occasional start to avoid rust…that’s about it.
What I’d like is some other organization to look at the tape-measure home runs, his age, and think, “you know, if this guy got the chance to play every day, he might be something special.”
We should run to that GM with a deal before he comes to his senses.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
4:39 pm
Mostly – and poor mechanics. Or likely due to poor mechanics.
True…. it is likely those deplorable mechanics that lead to the injury. Expected him to have arm troubles soon, but not as quickly as he got them. It’s a darn shame.
Shaun
September 25th, 2012
4:39 pm
Here we go, ncscoots. This is the earliest I can find.
Shaun
May 28th, 2009
2:15 pm
N8, the problem with Francoeur started in 2006. Everyone was enthralled with his RBI total and they ignored the ability-driven stats: .260/.293/.449 in 2006. At some point back in 2006 the organization should have realized that Francoeur wasn’t ready to hit major league pitching.
ncscoots
September 25th, 2012
4:39 pm
I first came across this blog in 2006 and Shaun was trashing Francoeur then.
Hey, the guy had an OBP under .300 and tried to pull warmup pitches, LOL. You didn’t have to be Branch Rickey (or even Tom Tango) to figure out by then that he might go south.
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
4:39 pm
I wonder, what do you think you gain out of a post like that except disdain, cowdogit?
DAP
September 25th, 2012
4:39 pm
i was watching the royals game on MLB network, and francouer was up to bat against Justin Verlander. I think it was the royals feed, because right as i was drinking from a bottle of water, the announcer said “Francouer has always been a good hitter. This year he’s known for his defense…” I almost drowned on my mouthful of h2o.
UKUGA
September 25th, 2012
4:41 pm
I agree with Jim @ 4:02.
If we blow home field then it will be akin to having to get on that plane and go to St. Louis for the tie-breaker last year.
Well, anyway, what it would’ve been like to get on the plane for the tie-breaker had we not got swept by Philly.
Jeff R
September 25th, 2012
4:41 pm
Minor is still underrated – expect by Braves’ management.
Minor made adjustments and pitched effectively this season. He doesn’t have much of a track record, granted. We’ll see what Minor does moving forward, but he’s got more upside than Hanson, I believe.
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
4:42 pm
I know that nolie never really liked Jeff so I imagine Shaun who is more saber oriented hated him
PDOG
September 25th, 2012
4:45 pm
You can’t trade Tehran or Delegado the up side is to good, they need to pitch in the majors next year. If anyone in July had said Minor would turn out this well we would have called in the men with the white coats. The trade that needs to happen is Hanson and Malhom for Cain of KC and a low level prospect. If Bourne resigns then Cain is your left fielder if not he plays center.
UKUGA
September 25th, 2012
4:45 pm
So, are the teams that play in the WC game going to put up a WC banner, or just the team’s that win the game?
Should be the latter? (Or, should be neither, but I digress).
Nerdville
September 25th, 2012
4:45 pm
i hope the braves don’t put a stupid banner up for getting to play in that dumb ‘play in’ game.
Lew
September 25th, 2012
4:45 pm
Of course Shaun detested Francoeur from the very beginning – where do you think we all learned that RBI are meaningless?
ncscoots
September 25th, 2012
4:46 pm
I guess I should explain what I find irksome is this: the implication that some folks, being enamored of RBI and such (thus being ill-informed dinosaur geezers) were simply too stupid to see the sabercentric tell-tales that would have given Francoeur away as a scrub, and that these were seen, in their totality, from the very beginning of the guy’s career by those smart enough to look for them. I find that implication distasteful, certainly disingenuous, and close to a flat damn lie.
Ergo, I am irked.
Lew
September 25th, 2012
4:47 pm
Of course, they don’t want to trade Cain.
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
4:47 pm
Jeff-
Well I would sure hope so….
Minor was a team #1 draft pick and Hanson was drafted out of junior college in what, the 22nd round….
Plus even after his few seasons head start, Hanson has done a whole lot of nothing, sad when you consider his highest win total is this year in unarguably his worst season yet…..
Maybe if he went and played for the Red Sox or Rangers where they score 7 runs a game he wouldnt look so bad….
Of course, could you imagine Tommy Hanson pitching in Arlington Park…..yikes….talk about missiles heading out in Texas…..
Lew
September 25th, 2012
4:48 pm
But – then again – we haven’t offered them all the players the bloggers don’t want anymore. That might well swing the deal.
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
4:49 pm
Scoots-
When arent you irked
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
4:49 pm
happen is Hanson and Malhom for Cain of KC and a low level prospect.
why in the world would KC want Malholm?
TennesseePaul
September 25th, 2012
4:50 pm
Good stuff…
“…if you had illumined us on his liabilities during his rookie year.”
Here we go, ncscoots…
Shaun– May 28th, 2009: N8, the problem with Francoeur started in 2006
Excellent retort.. a post three years after his rookie season.
Shaun
September 25th, 2012
4:51 pm
ncscoots, how much earlier do you want? 2006 was his first full season. Also, you are correct. Any one could have seen that Francoeur wasn’t likely to be a good everyday player by 2006. A further indication that some folks evaluated him incorrectly rather than evaluating him too soon.
But in 2005 I remember being concerned that he didn’t walk.
My original point is that often the eagerness to criticize a young player is not about evaluating a player too soon. It’s about not evaluating properly.
Back to Moustakas, some might criticize him because his basic stat line looks no better than Francoeur or Juan Francisco, for example. But once you look at some basic info about how he’s arriving at those numbers, his skill set and his age, it should be apparent that he’s not likely to be a Francoeur or a Francisco.
Murph
September 25th, 2012
4:51 pm
Shaun, did you seriously just go back to a blog from 3 years ago to find a post, by you, about Frenchy?
I know it’s an internet cliche, but you really should push back from the computer and go outside for a little while. Get some fresh air.
Heisenberg
September 25th, 2012
4:51 pm
rammerjammer , I seem to recall that when Francisco starts his numbers are rather good compared to pinch hitting or coming in late in games. But they only tend to start him against RH pitching so that suggests to me he is viewed as a platoon player. And from what I have seen of him against LH pitching, I would label him platoon player. Thus I do not see him as the heir to Chipper’s throne.
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
4:53 pm
and Hanson was drafted out of junior college in what, the 22nd round…P-T
Hanson was a draft and follow which is nowhere near the same as a #22 pick. Braves used that more than many but it is no longer allowed
TennesseePaul
September 25th, 2012
4:53 pm
correction, 4 years…
ncscoots
September 25th, 2012
4:54 pm
Excellent retort.. a post three years after his rookie season.
Ahhh, I don’t even care. I got the irkiness out of my system.
Jeff R
September 25th, 2012
4:54 pm
Plus even after his few seasons head start, Hanson has done a whole lot of nothing, sad when you consider his highest win total is this year in unarguably his worst season yet…..
I think Hanson showed promise early on. Unfortunate.
I’ve mentioned this before, but Smoltz says that Hanson needs to work on his mechanics this winter… make some fundamental changes to relieve the stress on his shoulder and elbow.
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
4:57 pm
he was supposedly doing that last season.
I doubt he ever gets rid of that hitch though if I recall Ortiz managed it for a few years, but they were not very productive years.
Efrim
September 25th, 2012
5:00 pm
What were Hanson’s #’s from his first start through to mid-June of last year? Bet you he probably had an ERA of around 3.00, averaging at or close to 6 IP per start, and a great H/9, K/9.
Clearly, the shoulder injury changed the type of pitcher Hanson is. Before that – had the look of someone with #1 starter potential – present #2, to me at least.
ChattTownBrian
September 25th, 2012
5:01 pm
Any update on nolie? Second time here, but haven’t had time to read through comments yet.
Shaun
September 25th, 2012
5:02 pm
TennesseePaul, sorry I couldn’t find anything from earlier. For what it’s worth, I wasn’t on the Francoeur bandwagon. I was concerned early on.
I guess I should explain what I find irksome is this: the implication that some folks, being enamored of RBI and such (thus being ill-informed dinosaur geezers) were simply too stupid to see the sabercentric tell-tales that would have given Francoeur away as a scrub, and that these were seen, in their totality, from the very beginning of the guy’s career by those smart enough to look for them. I find that implication distasteful, certainly disingenuous, and close to a flat damn lie.
It has nothing to do with sabercentric or not sabercentric. Francoeur didn’t show anything to indicate he was an outstanding hitter for average, an outstanding hitter for power, had command of the zone and plate discipline to enough of a degree that he was likely to become a good corner-outfielder. And this was apparent pretty early on. That’s all I’m saying. I’m not trying to call people “ignorant geezers” or stupid or anything of that sort. I’m also not trying to avoid offending anyone, though I truly do regret that something like this, simple statements of facts, would offend. I’m simply stating how it is and was.
Puma
September 25th, 2012
5:02 pm
Off topic, but am I a bad baseball fan for not wanting Miguel Cabrerra to win triple crown?
Heisenberg
September 25th, 2012
5:02 pm
I see where there is a search this blog function, but how do you go back 3 or more years without going back to that date (if it is still archived) and doing a separate search? I gotta admit it would be kinda cool to put in a name and some text in a search box and find all what someone said about a subject since the beginning of time.
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
5:04 pm
in the first half of last season he was 10-4 with a 2.44 ERA.before his arm acted up
not 2011
September 25th, 2012
5:05 pm
Sept 28? 1969
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
5:07 pm
Efrim-
And he hasn’t been the same since….
So why are all you guys dry humping him when clearly he isn’t the best looking girl at the prom anymore?!
Heisenberg
September 25th, 2012
5:07 pm
I think a triple crown would be cool, if only for the fact that “experts” have predicted it could not be done again because of blah blah blah yada yada yada.
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
5:08 pm
It has nothing to do with sabercentric or not sabercentric. Francoeur didn’t show anything to indicate he was an outstanding hitter for average, an outstanding hitter for power, @Shaun
yeah right. it had everything to do with sabermetrics as opposed to traditional stats dude
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
5:08 pm
.190/.264/.317/.581 was the oppo. stat line against him. Averaging 6IP a start, and had allowed 9 HR over 17 starts.
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
5:10 pm
yes the 6 inning limit has always been his bugaboo
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
5:10 pm
Injury’s changed him. He had #1 potential, now it’s to #3 and that’s if his shoulder gets healthy, and likely would require him to change his delivery as well.
PDOG
September 25th, 2012
5:12 pm
Sneaky Pete,
KC has a good young group of postion players and a good group of young pitching prospects they need a few arms to bridge the gap and Hanson and Malhom would make perfect sense. They have two other good young outfielders who can play center the trade makes perfect sense. If I am the Braves might even take a flyer on Frenchy for one year at 3 mill.
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
5:12 pm
TOBF-
See I am not sure I agree w/ the #1 there….
I at one point saw him as maybe a 2 but he was way too inconsistent (as now proven) and his BB/9 was alarming even in good times….
Like JJ, I always felt like he was outperforming his peripherals and was a couple starts away from falling off a cliff if the opposition made adjustments
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
5:18 pm
KC is not going to pay Malholm 6.5 million dollars to be a mid rotation starter
That is not how they operate
Ekim56
September 25th, 2012
5:19 pm
“Clinch what? A 50-50 chance at the playoffs. We haven’t clinched until we have won the wild card play-in game.”
Wrong. The Wild Card Game is the a play-off game, new this year. Just because it’s new doesn’t mean it does not exist. Otherwise, you could deny playoff status to all except the NL and AL champions since 1969.
Shaun
September 25th, 2012
5:19 pm
SNEAKY PETE, I honestly don’t view everything in baseball through the lens of sabermetrics or anti-sabermetrics, as some folks think I do and as some folks seem to do themselves.
Francoeur is a platoon player, at best. It was apparent pretty early on that he wasn’t likely to be as good as those who anointed him or hyped him thought that he would be. It was just apparent in what he did on the field, things which were measurable.
Perhaps some want to label those measures and that information and the interpretation of that information “sabermetrics.” I’m okay with that. Call it whatever you want. The fact is no matter what you want to label it, the information was there early on to indicate what kind of player Francoeur was and was likely to become.
If that bothers some of you because that information is not what they would call “traditional stats,” so be it. It’s not about sabermetrics versus traditional stats or sabermetrics versus scouting or whatever. It’s not some false dichotomy for me. I just want to get at the truth through some reliable information. If that offends you, sorry. I truly am sorry if it does. But I’m not going to stop getting to the truth or as close to the truth as I possibly can because of some phony war of sabermetrics versus traditional stats or sabermetrics versus scouting or sabermetrics versus anti-sabermetrics or whatever terminology some want to use.
CB
September 25th, 2012
5:22 pm
Sneaky Pete, KC owner is saying he will pay for pitching this off season. We shall see.
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
5:24 pm
Shaun-
Just curious….
Did you ever play ball?
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
5:24 pm
Sneaky Pete, KC owner is saying he will pay for pitching this off season.
I so want to make a sarcastic comment, but I’ll refrain.
Later y’all, take later. We clinch tonight! Meds goes 7 scoreless, Uggla hits a HR, Braves win 6-1.
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
5:26 pm
Thing is, Sneaky Pete, for a mid level starter, Maholm isn’t a bad pay….
In fact, he has more quality starts than anyone on the Braves this year….
He usually wont wow anyone with his stat line every time out, but he does give 6-7 IP and usually provides a good line, especially if you’re not asking him to be an ace like they were in PIT
CB
September 25th, 2012
5:26 pm
???
Jeff R
September 25th, 2012
5:29 pm
Injury’s changed him. He had #1 potential, now it’s to #3 and that’s if his shoulder gets healthy, and likely would require him to change his delivery as well.
I agree.
Mixxo
September 25th, 2012
5:30 pm
“Another day off for Bourn, but hey, Mac’s back!” – TOBF
Ugh!
Fredo
September 25th, 2012
5:31 pm
hope the Braves learned something when they faced Eovaldi last week … don’t need him shutting down the offence again this go round
HooRah
September 25th, 2012
5:31 pm
very perceptive of you since I don’t remember reading any baseball articles to that affect
he went bad because of injury not because his BB/9 was high, plenty of good pitchers have had the same problem
CB
September 25th, 2012
5:31 pm
Mixxo,you probably got that reaction from a few of your “fans”.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
5:32 pm
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/09/jack-wilson-to-retire.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Shortstop Jack Wilson will retire following a 12-year MLB career, Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reports. Wilson, 34, decided along with his family that the 2012 season would be his final one in the Major Leagues…….Wilson told Kovacevic he’ll be staying in touch with the Braves’ front office.
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
5:32 pm
no he isn’t for us, but I seriously doubt KC would be interested
Mixxo
September 25th, 2012
5:35 pm
CB -
No doubt!
Especially if they’ve heard my bass playing.
Shaun
September 25th, 2012
5:40 pm
Did you ever play ball?
Obviously I just played Strat-O-Matic in my parents’ basement, right?
And everyone clearly know that you must have played 500 games at the major league level to understand the basics of baseball, like getting on base, gaining bases and things of that sort. Concepts like the game being about getting on base and gaining bases and measuring on-base percentage and total bases are just way too difficult for anyone who hasn’t played in the majors to understand, correct? Because those who have played 500 games in the majors clearly understand that the game is not fundamentally about those things. It’s actually more about hits in non-sac, non-walk plate appearances and how many runs come in during your plate appearances more so than it’s about outs and bases.
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
5:40 pm
TOBF-
So does this mean possible job in the office?
For me Wilson would make a good roving instructor….
Then again, if he wants to go home, who knows….
GTI in Brooklyn
September 25th, 2012
5:41 pm
The Braves should miss R.A. DICKEY when the Mets come in this weekend. He’s schedule to pitch against the Pirates on Thursday. Don’t have to worry about BUEHRLE against the Marlins this week… Is JOSH JOHNSON the best pitcher the Braves have to face these last 9 regular season games?
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
5:42 pm
Shaun-
Just asking a question….
No need to be an *ss hat about it….
Besides, what you do in your parents basement is your business….nor do I EVER need to hear about it….
southern hope
September 25th, 2012
5:42 pm
I’m already sad….even with the best BEST case scenario, there are only about 5 weeks left of baseball….and then it’s on to watching the replacement refs….
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
5:42 pm
GTI-
They will…
Mets have announced Niese, Young, and Mejia to pitch the weekend series.
P-Town Brave ©
September 25th, 2012
5:45 pm
Also, I think the Braves may see AJ Burnett in PIT unless he just doesn’t care to pitch or they shut him down once theyre out of it…..
southern hope
September 25th, 2012
5:49 pm
Murph writes “Shaun, did you seriously just go back to a blog from 3 years ago to find a post, by you, about Frenchy?” Murph, here’s something even crazier…I still have the Brooks Conrad blog conversation when we won in the bottom of the 9th…and I will read it sometimes…..oh, what the heck, you might as well all see it…. — http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2010/05/20/leake-vs-hanson-in-business-fans-special/?cp=9
great comments in here from all of you…..its pretty funny to read….this thread picks up at the top of the 9th…bases loaded.
Braveone
September 25th, 2012
5:51 pm
From the previous blog which had 1,979 comments, TheOnlyBravesFan led the way with 122 posts. There were 156 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:
Rank Poster Frequency
1 TheOnlyBravesFan 122
2 Jeff R 81
3 Efrim 80
4 Brian from SC 79
5 SNEAKY PETE 69
6 Half Empty 59
7 Capt.Mudd 56
8 ncscoots 56
9 David O’Brien 50
10 jeffrey d 48
11 George_George 47
12 Venice Jim 47
13 Mixxo 43
14 Veer 37
15 Ghost of Chipper Jones 36
16 Tomahawk Mafia 35
17 chipontheroad 33
18 Lew 32
19 abeeeewright 32
20 phil 32
21 DAP 28
22 Shaun 28
23 usnavyvolfaninva 28
24 Tomahawkin 27
25 raleighbravefan 27
GTI in Brooklyn
September 25th, 2012
5:52 pm
I’m counting forward, and it looks like the Braves *might* see LOCKE (LHP, 0-2, 5.47), CORREIA (RHP 11-10, 4.11) and then somebody else in PIT those last three. Hard to be sure, I know, but that’s how the rotation could work out if things stay as they are.
Just saying: Good opportunity to put up a very strong 9-game run, here. Sure would be kinda sweet in the Phillies did us some favors.
SMOLTZ 29
September 25th, 2012
5:54 pm
NO celebration after a win tonight! Beat the Cards on 10/5 for the play in game, and then spray the champagne. If the legendary Bobby Cox was managing this year, we would have caught the Nats! MERCY
GTI in Brooklyn
September 25th, 2012
5:56 pm
SMOLTZ 29, was that a Hawk Harrelson reference at the end of your post just now?
CB
September 25th, 2012
5:59 pm
southern hope, thanks for that. Good memories
The Blogger Formerly Known as Billy
September 25th, 2012
6:00 pm
Anyone know if any national coverage for the Chipper festivities or will it only be on sports south? In Vegas and would love to watch.
Mixxo
September 25th, 2012
6:01 pm
Special one-hour pregame show!
cricket
September 25th, 2012
6:03 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/25/sports/baseball/for-ichiro-suzuki-respect-for-bats-is-key-to-hitting.html?_r=1
Bama Braves
September 25th, 2012
6:06 pm
The Stadium Should Be Full The Rest of The Way Right?
Train Wreck Bystander
September 25th, 2012
6:10 pm
I don’t understand wanting to celebrate a Braves win tonight in any special way… it just clinches the play-in game. Wait until you win that, then celebrate. Act like you’ve been there.
Bravefaninok
September 25th, 2012
6:11 pm
SportSouth @SportSouth
To those asking, show will not be posted to website but we launch a Chipper Tribute page @ 7PM w/ most of content featured in show #FSBraves
Mixxo
September 25th, 2012
6:12 pm
The Stadium Should Be Full The Rest of The Way Right?
It should be Bama, but this is Atlanta. We can’t even sellout a post season game.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
6:14 pm
I can only imagine what’s going through Chipper’s mind right now. Heck, I’VE got butterflies thinking about this being his last homestand ever!
BTW, the formula for calculating magic #’s —>
Magic # = (# games left) – (# games ahead) + 1
If # games ahead = xx.5 then it’s (#games left) – (# games ahead) + 1.5
Murph
September 25th, 2012
6:16 pm
southern hope, thanks for posting that link. Pretty fun read.
I especially liked N8 lobbying for Conrad over Chipper.
You didn’t think a GREAT win would make me stop, did you?
Brooks Conrad: 3 HR, 9 RBI in 28 AB.
Chipper Jones: 2 HR, 11 RBI in 110 AB.
I’d say “do the math”, but I’ll get yelled at again for already doing it.
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward)
September 25th, 2012
6:19 pm
Correction: You don’t clinch a playoff berth by getting a spot in the play-in game. you clinch a playoff berth by WINNING the play-in game. This one-game playoff is merely a scheme to allow one more general manager to crow about “making the playoffs”.
ChipperisGod
September 25th, 2012
6:23 pm
I’m getting a bit emotional watching Braves live right now. Gah, I can’t imagine, I’m going to be blubbering like a baby when I’m at the game on Sunday. Good write up there, young lady!
Let’s clinch tonight and get the old man back to October and make some noise! GO BRAVES!
VinceVanGo
September 25th, 2012
6:27 pm
I think that Tommy Hanson’s real future lies in becoming an assistant pitching coach. He can assist a real pitching coach in demonstrating the pitching mechanics that don’t work to young pitchers. Please keep him out of the playoff rotation Frank, I’m not sure that Fredi will.
Kat
September 25th, 2012
6:30 pm
For those wanting to watch the pre-game stuff on Fox South you can watch it here http://www.vipboxsports.eu/watch/78669/1/atlanta-bravesvs-miami-marlins-live-stream-online.html
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
6:32 pm
Doesn’t the Ted have a larger seating capacity than most other MLB stadiums? Not making excuses, mind you, but that could be why it’s hard to fill up. I don’t live in the ATL, so I’m sure those who do would be able to offer more insight.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
6:33 pm
ChipperisGod…
Wish I could be there. There won’t be a lot of dry eyes Sunday.
phil
September 25th, 2012
6:36 pm
Stadium in a terrible neighborhood…
School….
Economy….
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
6:37 pm
While it may be cruel, Vince’s comment at 6:30 did make me chuckle…
P-Town I don’t know exactly what Jack Wilson would be doing, but I’d bet that it has something to do with helping young SS. Kinda like a mentor, I guess.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
6:37 pm
6:27.
phil
September 25th, 2012
6:38 pm
Parking….
Heyward….
Bay Area Steve
September 25th, 2012
6:43 pm
Ridiculous cow…
cricket
September 25th, 2012
6:47 pm
No public transport…
Display batting AVG on scoreboard instead of BASFTJERT…
BravesFan in DC
September 25th, 2012
6:51 pm
Don’t feel like sifting through the commentary… Has a lineup been posted?
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
6:53 pm
Stadium location and the lack of proper public transport (Marta, seriously?) are the 2 main issues.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
6:57 pm
Here ya go!
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
#Braves lineup (vs MIA/Eovaldi): Johnson 8, Prado 7, Heyward 9, Jones 5, Freeman 3, Uggla 4, McCann 2, Simmons 6, Medlen 1
Bat Masterson
September 25th, 2012
7:00 pm
We can’t even sellout a post season game.
Just goes to show you Atlanta is mostly made up of sophisticated baseball fans. They know that Atlanta is most likely, at best, the second best team in the NL, and the playoffs are not to be taken seriously, because, you know, run differential and all.
Kat
September 25th, 2012
7:02 pm
Quick question… how any years would you say Chipper has been with Atlanta .. 20 right? 1993 to 2012 I have seen some people say 19yrs…
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
7:05 pm
should be 20… 2012-1993= 19, then you add 1. Simple counting.
Bravefaninok
September 25th, 2012
7:06 pm
Kat
September 25th, 2012
7:02 pm
Quick question… how any years would you say Chipper has been with Atlanta .. 20 right? 1993 to 2012 I have seen some people say 19yrs…
19 seasons in the majors I guess.
cricket
September 25th, 2012
7:06 pm
chipper had debut in 93 with OPS 1.750 and it was all downhill from there
Bay Area Steve
September 25th, 2012
7:07 pm
He didn’t play in ‘94.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
7:08 pm
Ah, he was injured then… guess they don’t count that
Kat
September 25th, 2012
7:09 pm
So 19 ’season’ since he didn’t play in ‘94 but wouldn’t that still be 20 yrs with the organization?
1993 to 2012 is 20yrs not 19…hmm
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
7:10 pm
Wow! Chipper in ‘91….
http://www.epier.com/product.asp?1854885
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
7:11 pm
“There’s a wild card to be clinched,” says Mark Bradley.
Gosh, I thought we were supposed to win the division last week.
Talk about a guy utterly bereft of integrity.
Bay Area Steve
September 25th, 2012
7:11 pm
If you’re counting organization, you’d have to go to ‘90, right?
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
7:11 pm
Notice they’re not showing the stands.
Guessing not a lot of people there.
Brava
September 25th, 2012
7:13 pm
Thank you, Carroll.
Go Braves!!!
cricket
September 25th, 2012
7:13 pm
he was a sep call-up in 93, missed 94 but got paid 109,000 which looks like ML salary. so it should be 20 years.
Salary -
93 109000
94 109000
95 114000
Kat
September 25th, 2012
7:14 pm
Well if you get paid I’d say you’re with the team lol, thanks cricket!
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
7:16 pm
Great catch J-Hey.
Bay Area Steve
September 25th, 2012
7:16 pm
Kat,
I think you make a good point. I just found what cricket did, too. Big league cash, big league DL, I think that means he was a big leaguer.
cricket
September 25th, 2012
7:16 pm
shoulda caught that
Tomahawk Mafia
September 25th, 2012
7:18 pm
Medlen looks pretty solid in the early going.
Kat
September 25th, 2012
7:18 pm
Carroll your thoughts on the number of years Chipper has been with the Braves organization.. it would be 20yrs? The ‘94 year where he didn’t play but got a paycheck that would still count as being a Brave right?
cricket
September 25th, 2012
7:19 pm
A lineup today except Bourn
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
7:19 pm
bad angle by JHey, seemed to be coming in a bit, but it didn’t hurt. Would be nice to see us hit this kid early
Bat Masterson
September 25th, 2012
7:20 pm
Seems like people have been saying 20 to me. I know I have read that many times this year.
bravesgrl4life
September 25th, 2012
7:21 pm
Good evening, fellow Braves fans. Missed y’all lately.
Bat Masterson
September 25th, 2012
7:22 pm
Hey, Bg4l
T-Dawg
September 25th, 2012
7:22 pm
We will be lucky to get a hit tonight. This dude is throwing gas
bravesgrl4life
September 25th, 2012
7:23 pm
Hi, there, Bat!
Chop
September 25th, 2012
7:24 pm
Love this time of the year, playoff baseball!! Go Braves!!
Tomahawk Mafia
September 25th, 2012
7:24 pm
I want to see more patience from Heyward in 2013. Making outs on a low and away first pitch fails to constitute a quality at bat.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
7:25 pm
Yeah, thanks T-Dawg
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
7:27 pm
What?
Bat Masterson
September 25th, 2012
7:27 pm
BallGame
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
7:28 pm
Great.
That’s good.
I’m sure we’re poised to respond with the bats.
Not.
bravesgrl4life
September 25th, 2012
7:28 pm
Well, crap. Let the rookie hit one out. That’s enough of that, Medlen.
bravesgrl4life
September 25th, 2012
7:29 pm
Hope all this talk hasn’t jinxed Medlen.
Jay Dubu
September 25th, 2012
7:29 pm
Just what the Braves don’t need to know…that Superman (Medlen) can also be Clark Kent (regular guy).
bravesgrl4life
September 25th, 2012
7:33 pm
Nice walk. Now lets go Freddie and take that run and one more back!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
7:35 pm
RISP chance here, with Danny at the plate. A HR would be nice.
bravesgrl4life
September 25th, 2012
7:35 pm
Be a really good time for Uggla to kill his old team.
Bat Masterson
September 25th, 2012
7:36 pm
Marlins announcers
First guy: all these numbers Medlen has been putting up, I mean they’re all historic
Second banana: and impressive
TBbravesfan
September 25th, 2012
7:36 pm
come on dan
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
7:36 pm
Uggla!!!!!
Tomahawk Mafia
September 25th, 2012
7:36 pm
The Braves need to score here.
Venice Jim
September 25th, 2012
7:36 pm
Well done, Dan!!!
bravesgrl4life
September 25th, 2012
7:36 pm
That’ll work!
Brava
September 25th, 2012
7:36 pm
Uggs!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
7:37 pm
he went thru the stop sign! and had to go back and re-tag
bravesgrl4life
September 25th, 2012
7:37 pm
Hey, VJ, guess you know I’m coming out there week after next, right?
phil
September 25th, 2012
7:38 pm
Medlen with a preview of october 5th…..sigh.
Nice job, dan.
brian
September 25th, 2012
7:38 pm
old man chipper forgetting the outs the other night, now forgetting to touch home?
brian
September 25th, 2012
7:39 pm
great to see Uggla turning it around at the end of the year. It is not too little too late if he can get hot now
phil
September 25th, 2012
7:40 pm
Release chipper….
phil
September 25th, 2012
7:40 pm
Lots of empty seats…..lol
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
7:42 pm
bravesgrl4life-
He actually remembered even though I forgot
(Did he pop up? I’m just scanning at the moment and didn’t see him…)
TBbravesfan
September 25th, 2012
7:42 pm
just one
phil
September 25th, 2012
7:42 pm
Boooooooooooo!
keyLargo
September 25th, 2012
7:42 pm
Has anyone thought Hanson’s shoulder problems might be related to the changes in his delivery? I’m no fan of Hansons, but I don’t think we or anyone else knows what Hanson could do with a motion that doesn’t have that horrible hitch right in the middle of it. Couple the lessening of stolen bases and he be a three.
I think his future lies in whether or not he’ll put in the work to develop a conventional delivery.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
7:43 pm
“Lots of empty seats…..lol”-phil
really?
T-Dawg
September 25th, 2012
7:43 pm
Did anyone thing something over than that would have happened?
Venice Jim
September 25th, 2012
7:44 pm
Brief pop-in…
T-Dawg
September 25th, 2012
7:45 pm
Think…not thing
phil
September 25th, 2012
7:45 pm
Yes, sadly, really…..
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
7:45 pm
Dusty Baker had a stroke…oh, man. When did that happen?
bravesgrl4life
September 25th, 2012
7:46 pm
cab, yeah, he’s up there above my “that’ll work” comment. I’m jacked for this trip!
Lane Kiffin
September 25th, 2012
7:49 pm
@cricket, I have enjoyed Copper.
phil
September 25th, 2012
7:49 pm
Friday…..mini-stroke.
Probably caused by an a-fib episode he had. Hope he’s ok. Should be.
Tomahawk Mafia
September 25th, 2012
7:49 pm
Medlen has done an outstanding job of retiring hitters with a limited amount of pitches tonight. I especially like his multiple strike outs on three pitches.
bravesgrl4life
September 25th, 2012
7:50 pm
Any of you bloggers going to be at any of the games this weekend? Hit me up. I’m going to all 3.
Lane Kiffin
September 25th, 2012
7:52 pm
Let me go ahead and get this out of the way. I know the reporters have a schedule made out early in the year and that is why Carroll works some series and Mr. Obrien is off.
That having been said and not to steal George’s thunder but for Mr. Obrien to be off on a night when the braves may clinch is strange indeed. Seems it would be all hands on deck for a possible clinch.
Lane Kiffin
September 25th, 2012
7:55 pm
regardless of who is there to report on it let’s get it done.
phil
September 25th, 2012
7:55 pm
Well Lane, if you noticed earlier, David has been busting it working on the special coming out at week’s end….
Perhaps he was too busy today? Hmmmm? Maybe?
Think.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
7:56 pm
‘Teen!!!!!
bravesgrl4life
September 25th, 2012
7:56 pm
Marteeen!!!!!
Bravefaninok
September 25th, 2012
7:56 pm
Teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!
Bat Masterson
September 25th, 2012
7:56 pm
Marlins announcers talking about how well respected Ozzie is and praising him for his honesty. I bet Loria could do without some of that honesty.
Tomahawk Mafia
September 25th, 2012
7:57 pm
Reed Johnson looks overmatched by Eovaldi.
Lane Kiffin
September 25th, 2012
7:57 pm
Too busy when the team may clinch? I don’t think so.
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
7:58 pm
Almost made contact.
Lane Kiffin
September 25th, 2012
7:58 pm
That would be akin to covering all the pre-fight intervies etc and not covering the fight.
phil
September 25th, 2012
7:59 pm
Wayward resurfacing when it can least be afforded…sigh.
Tomahawk Mafia
September 25th, 2012
8:00 pm
Heyward swinging at another pitch out of the zone.
phil
September 25th, 2012
8:00 pm
Lane Kiffin = ACE
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
8:02 pm
Eovaldi obviously owns us now. In fact it it was up to Sniyker we’d still be losing
phil
September 25th, 2012
8:02 pm
Simmons back to the minors…..
phil
September 25th, 2012
8:03 pm
Snitiker is awful…..
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
8:03 pm
That should make you happy phil, i know you must have missed being able to rip on him all the time
Lane Kiffin
September 25th, 2012
8:03 pm
Phil you seem obsessed with George and ace. I hope you do not transfer that to me.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
8:04 pm
Freeman just missed that tag.. throw was a bit too close to home.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
8:04 pm
Maybe DOB is masquerading as CR tonight.
Trader Jack
September 25th, 2012
8:05 pm
Phillies 5 Nats 1
Rick C
September 25th, 2012
8:06 pm
Phils up 5-1 on the Nats, bottom of the third
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
8:07 pm
Let’s go Phillies!!!
phil
September 25th, 2012
8:07 pm
Rip on who, Pete? Ace? It usually wasn’t me….
keyLargo
September 25th, 2012
8:07 pm
Snitiker is awful…..
I agree. Running through a stop sign and having a bang-bang play at the plate is one thing
Running through a stop sign and having the ball cut off is another.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
8:07 pm
PHILS!
George_George
September 25th, 2012
8:08 pm
S/O SNEAKY
I just got here. Do you have any new news on nolie?
phil
September 25th, 2012
8:08 pm
No worries, Lane….
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
8:09 pm
You would really think DOB would want to cover these important games this week.
And you would really think that you would know by now that DOB does not make his own schedule
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
8:10 pm
no I was kidding you about the Wayward post phil
phil
September 25th, 2012
8:11 pm
Sneaky is more concerned with ripping people than he is with nolie…
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
8:11 pm
nolie might get home tomorrow George, we’ll see
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
8:12 pm
cab,
I owe you an apology…. seems my subbing Alex Smith for Tom Brady jinxed the ‘Niners.
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
8:12 pm
true, not my day to watch him, its Jake’s turn
phil
September 25th, 2012
8:13 pm
Gotcha, Pete…..
No, no, no…..last thing i want is for him to fall on his face now.
Need him badly if we’re to do a thing.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
8:13 pm
no offense, but to use Alex Smith over Brady is a bit odd…
phil
September 25th, 2012
8:14 pm
Screw the niners…..hate that bunch.
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
8:14 pm
usnavyvolfaninva-
I predicted last week that the Niners would lose a game to a team they are much better than. It’s what they do. Just hope they got it out of their systems early
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
8:14 pm
I had more faith in the Ravens D than I should have, and I sold the Vikings short.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
8:15 pm
I mean, c’mon, it’s THE VIKINGS.
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
8:15 pm
Screw the niners…..hate that bunch.
Why?
Jay Dubu
September 25th, 2012
8:16 pm
Who is this young pitcher with the big era that’s shuting down the Braves’ bats?
T-Dawg
September 25th, 2012
8:16 pm
Fredi should have at least 15 more home runs with as much power as he has. If you’ve ever watched him in BP, he simply launches shots into the upper decks of almost every park. I have no idea why this doesn’t translate into the games.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
8:17 pm
C’mon, let’s get some runs, Braves!!
George_George
September 25th, 2012
8:18 pm
Thanks SNEAKY
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
8:18 pm
Eovaldi already at 80 pitches. Might be done after the 5th
Rick C
September 25th, 2012
8:19 pm
T-Dawg, he did miss a handful of games with the eye problems and finger injury.
Bat Masterson
September 25th, 2012
8:19 pm
Too busy when the team may clinch? I don’t think so.
Oh you silly man. What does it matter if O’Brien is there to cover clinching an appearance to some meaningless playoffs. How sad it must be for you to be so blind, but don’t dispare. I,too, was like you only a brief couple of days ago. One of the unwashed masses, thinking playoff baseball was serious.
I’ve been enlightened on this very blog, and now I’m free to see it for what it is, just a few series that tell us nothing about who the best team in baseball is.
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
8:19 pm
same young pitcher who shut them down last week, Jay
Jay Dubu
September 25th, 2012
8:20 pm
Is Jair Jurrjens showing up at the Braves’ home games, or has he started his winter vacation?
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
8:20 pm
good to see that you finally learned the reality Bat
T-Dawg
September 25th, 2012
8:22 pm
Rick C
September 25th, 2012
8:19 pm
T-Dawg, he did miss a handful of games with the eye problems and finger injury.
Yeah, I took that into consideration. Look, he’s just a kid but like I said, with as much power as he has you would just thing he’d hit more. His power in BP is insane.
Veer
September 25th, 2012
8:22 pm
Chance to gain ground on Nationals today
Bay Area Steve
September 25th, 2012
8:22 pm
Bat,
As you parody that discussion, tell me you caught him telling us that we were taking the games too seriously. Us. Not him. Us.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
8:22 pm
Wow, Bat, that was rather Shakespearean!
George_George
September 25th, 2012
8:22 pm
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
6:32 pm
Doesn’t the Ted have a larger seating capacity than most other MLB stadiums? Not making excuses, mind you, but that could be why it’s hard to fill up. I don’t live in the ATL, so I’m sure those who do would be able to offer more insight
***************************
THE TED is 3rd largest seating capacity, only YANKEE and DODGER STADIUMS larger.
Lane Kiffin
September 25th, 2012
8:22 pm
I knew someone would bring up the schedule.
Lane Kiffin
September 25th, 2012
8:25 pm
Bat thank you for clearing that up.
Chop
September 25th, 2012
8:25 pm
Let’s get some runs!! Ready to see a celebration tonight!!
Sopheee
September 25th, 2012
8:26 pm
That was deep, Bat.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
8:28 pm
Torii Hunter, JR, COMMITS TO NOTRE DAME? Didn’t know Torii Hunter was old enough to have a JR going to college! sHeesh!
keyLargo
September 25th, 2012
8:30 pm
McCann with an OPS under 700 and a BA under .230. How can the Braves consider paying him $12M next year and not be actively shopping him to an AL team? He had his best year in 2006 and has lost some every year since. Not falling off a cliff every year but does anyone really think he will ever have another 2006 or 2008?
Kat
September 25th, 2012
8:30 pm
“@ajcbraves 56 pitches for Medlen through five innings, still 1-1″
Bat Masterson
September 25th, 2012
8:30 pm
SNEAKY PETE _
Yeah, at first I was a little depressed but I’m over it now.
Thanks for the updates on nolie. Glad to hear things are better.
Jay Dubu
September 25th, 2012
8:30 pm
This is disheartening…the Braves have a chance to clinch a playoff spot, with their best pitcher on the mound, and they’re struggling against a kid with a big era.
Fredo
September 25th, 2012
8:32 pm
dang, all of Reed’s at-bats have looked bad tonight
Bat Masterson
September 25th, 2012
8:32 pm
BAS_
I did and I’m really sorry I was a day, or so behind, it would have been fun to wade in.
SteveInFXBG
September 25th, 2012
8:32 pm
Eovaldi at 94 pitches.
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
8:32 pm
Best pitcher in baseball and we cannot provide any kind of run support for him.
It’s embarrassing to watch time and time again.
How are we going to win one game against any playoff team when we’re being owned again by a relatively unknown Miami Marlin starting pitcher?
Half Empty
September 25th, 2012
8:32 pm
Mac will be back I’m pretty sure, love handles and all
Eovaldi
September 25th, 2012
8:34 pm
I really like pitching against the Braves hitters. It reminds me of when I pitched in the minor leagues.
HooRah
September 25th, 2012
8:34 pm
oh shut up Mitchell. Go look upwho Baker is and why we are playing the Indians in August next season.
bravesgrl4life
September 25th, 2012
8:35 pm
Nice play, Old Man
HooRah
September 25th, 2012
8:36 pm
What happens if Kris loses tonight and gets hammered in his next start? Do we still revolt if he doesn’t start the playin game?
TBbravesfan
September 25th, 2012
8:38 pm
94 pitches in 5 innings and we have 1 run.
bravesgrl4life
September 25th, 2012
8:38 pm
And another one!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
8:39 pm
Any ideas on answer to the trivia question? Besides Chipper, which other Braves player has hit 200 HR in Atlanta?
Bat Masterson
September 25th, 2012
8:40 pm
Soph & usnavy
Sure thing, Kane.
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
8:41 pm
Andruw?
ncbravesfan90
September 25th, 2012
8:41 pm
Yikes he just carved up Prado on 3 pitches…..
Tomahawk Mafia
September 25th, 2012
8:42 pm
Eovaldi is tough.
Lane Kiffin
September 25th, 2012
8:42 pm
Darrell Evans
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
8:42 pm
Run, my son JHey!!!
Half Empty
September 25th, 2012
8:42 pm
Jason!
bravesgrl4life
September 25th, 2012
8:42 pm
Make this triple count, please!!!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
8:43 pm
Thinking it has to be Andruw or Murphy
Jay Dubu
September 25th, 2012
8:43 pm
The young Eovaldi is ripe for the picking this inning. Third time through the Braves’ lineup, 90+ pitches, with the heart of the order coming up.
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
8:43 pm
That’ll work Old Man!
Fredo
September 25th, 2012
8:43 pm
there’s your 2 runs Meds
bravesgrl4life
September 25th, 2012
8:43 pm
Sac fly Chipper!!!!
Sopheee
September 25th, 2012
8:43 pm
Yay, Chipper!
Half Empty
September 25th, 2012
8:43 pm
Chippa!!! gonna miss that stuff
phil
September 25th, 2012
8:44 pm
Play on, Chipper Jones!
Attaboy.
keyLargo
September 25th, 2012
8:45 pm
Any ideas on answer to the trivia question? Besides Chipper, which other Braves player has hit 200 HR in Atlanta?
Dale Murphy
Tomahawk Mafia
September 25th, 2012
8:45 pm
Good baseball there in the 6th inning.
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
8:46 pm
Both of Chipper’s fly balls looked like home runs.
For real though.
phil
September 25th, 2012
8:47 pm
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
8:15 pm
Screw the niners…..hate that bunch.
Why?
********
well, used to own the falcons…..you would hate em too if you had been on the other side of Montana all those years.
Capt.Mudd
September 25th, 2012
8:47 pm
Game going and again, there’s a premium on runs
George_George
September 25th, 2012
8:48 pm
Outta here to watch game. Have a good one. BELIEVE IN THE MEDS. Nite all.
toast
September 25th, 2012
8:49 pm
“Both of Chipper’s fly balls looked like home runs.
For real though.”
Gee this guy posting not for shock value. Thanks for the tremendous insight fella.
phil
September 25th, 2012
8:49 pm
Literally in atlanta? Andruw or dale.
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
8:50 pm
I used to hate the Packers because I despise Brett Favre…then he (finally for real) retired and I no longer hate them. Not among my favorite teams…
Capt.Mudd
September 25th, 2012
8:50 pm
Bob Horner……blasted ‘em; however I didn’t see the question in it’s original context.
Animus
September 25th, 2012
8:53 pm
Murphy hit 205 in ATL total.
Animus
September 25th, 2012
8:54 pm
Chipper has 259 (and counting) in ATL
phil
September 25th, 2012
8:54 pm
Niners used to just kill us….
Hate.
Os extremely powerful dislike and digust.
Fredo
September 25th, 2012
8:54 pm
dang
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
8:54 pm
Solano with 2HR in this game…. he’d never HR’d before
ncbravesfan90
September 25th, 2012
8:54 pm
Why a 89 mph fastball up on an 0-2 pitch? Why? Too good of a pitch
Sopheee
September 25th, 2012
8:55 pm
womp womp
T-Dawg
September 25th, 2012
8:55 pm
Same thing started to happen to JJ. Medlen is much better but still.
Kat
September 25th, 2012
8:55 pm
I’m on delay but I already saw what happened ughs
ncbravesfan90
September 25th, 2012
8:55 pm
“Solano with 2HR in this game…. he’d never HR’d before”
Happens alot against the Braves….
phil
September 25th, 2012
8:55 pm
Uh oh…..
Medlen collapses….great.
Tomahawk Mafia
September 25th, 2012
8:57 pm
How do you allow two homeruns to Donovan Solono? That is some bad luck to allow the bloop directly before the bomb.
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
8:57 pm
Why a 89 mph fastball up on an 0-2 pitch? Why? Too good of a pitch
It was not supposed to be up. It was called low and off the plate. Meds just missed his spot (by about 18 inches)
phil
September 25th, 2012
8:57 pm
Nice pitch call, Mac…..
Good grief.
Bat Masterson
September 25th, 2012
8:57 pm
Come on guys, let’s not screw up Meldeens team win streak.
I’m guessing Murph
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
8:58 pm
Nice pitch call, Mac…..
Seriously, go back and look where he wanted that pitch. And look where Meds threw it.
Fredo
September 25th, 2012
8:58 pm
well they came back and tied the last time Eovaldi pitched … need to come back and win tonight
ncbravesfan90
September 25th, 2012
8:58 pm
“It was not supposed to be up. It was called low and off the plate. Meds just missed his spot (by about 18 inches)”
Regardless, go to the changeup (his best pitch) at his shins, if he hits it, it will be into the ground.
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
8:58 pm
Lyle Overbay making contact at any point in the remainder of his career would be more surprising than that guy hitting his second career home run.
I actually had a feeling the guy was going to go deep.
I can’t explain why. It just felt right.
Mark Duncan
September 25th, 2012
8:59 pm
Let’s pick Medlen up here. Keep on rolling. Go Braves!
Sopheee
September 25th, 2012
8:59 pm
Wake up, bats.
Gil In Mechanicsville
September 25th, 2012
8:59 pm
Methinks Kris has been hanging with Tommy Hansen a little too much, perchance for giving up gopher balls are rubbing off on him
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
9:00 pm
ncbravesfan90-
It was basically a throwaway pitch to see if he would swing on 0-2. He wasn’t going to do much with it if it had been in the proper location either
Jay Dubu
September 25th, 2012
9:00 pm
A young pitcher and a young 2B taking the Braves’ linch money.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 25th, 2012
9:00 pm
“…..I never knew until tonight thet it was [SOLANO] all the time.”…..GODFATHER I
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
9:00 pm
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
How good has Kris Medlen been? Tonight marks the second time ALL SEASON he’s surrendered 3 runs (first as a starter) #Braves
cab: Agree that it’s Med’s “fault” for missing the spot, but I never really did like throwing fastballs 0-2, unless it’s overpowering like Kimbrels.
ncbravesfan90
September 25th, 2012
9:01 pm
“It was basically a throwaway pitch to see if he would swing on 0-2. He wasn’t going to do much with it if it had been in the proper location either”
Can’t take that risk with him hitting a fastball out earlier that was bearing in on his hands that would have been a ball.
keyLargo
September 25th, 2012
9:02 pm
Please pinch run !!!!!!!
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
9:03 pm
Um…could it be a certain Home-Run king we all know and love? He did play 9 years IN ATLANTA!
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
9:03 pm
What an empty feeling it is to be watching the same game for what seems like four years in a row.
Veer
September 25th, 2012
9:03 pm
Simmons should be benched. Overbay again? come on man. this guy wil strike out
GTI in Brooklyn
September 25th, 2012
9:04 pm
You know, I think MEDLEN might actually be a better hitter than OVERBAY. Can they just have MEDLEN re-pinch hit for him?
Fredo
September 25th, 2012
9:04 pm
I wish I could get a little excited when I hear “Fredi is going to his bench” but …. I just can’t
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
9:04 pm
Can’t take that risk on a guy that has one home run all season? on a pitch that was supposed to be down and well off the plate?
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 25th, 2012
9:04 pm
Enter your comments here
Veer
September 25th, 2012
9:05 pm
With Nationals losing it is a sinking feeling to lose this game with your best pitcher out there. We could have cut the lead to 4 games with 8 left. However being 5 games out with 8 left is pretty much the end. If we dont win today then our division hopes are over 100 percent
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
9:05 pm
Bats need to bail out their pitcher now…. we NEED that streak to continue!
Bat Masterson
September 25th, 2012
9:05 pm
Aaron …… Could be
T-Dawg
September 25th, 2012
9:05 pm
Lyle Overbay
Tomahawk Mafia
September 25th, 2012
9:06 pm
If only the Braves could score some runs.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
9:06 pm
Mac’s out…
ChattTownBrian
September 25th, 2012
9:06 pm
This is my fear in that one game thing. Medlen, as great as he’s been, can be taken to the woodshed by some unknown scrub with no career homeruns and boom – season down the toilet.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
9:06 pm
Actually, I see a good story brewing here. Heath Bell comes in to close the door, and gives up a 2-run walk-off to Chipper. We clinch the playoffs, and Bell has to walk back to the clubhouse, where Ozzie Guillen waits. Delicious.
no medlen
September 25th, 2012
9:06 pm
what the hell tried to do Medlen with fastball over the plater with 0-2 ??? it’s a shame allow 2 hrs by a garbage player…..
i suppourt Smotlz…no medlen for WC game…… Hudson you are the man for WC game…at least you dont allow Hrs ….
ncbravesfan90
September 25th, 2012
9:07 pm
“Can’t take that risk on a guy that has one home run all season? on a pitch that was supposed to be down and well off the plate?”
Im sure thats what they thought in the first at bat too haha. Got to make in game adjustments….
Veer
September 25th, 2012
9:07 pm
Not sure I agree with pinch running Constanza right here esp with runner on first because we will need Mac probably in the 9th inning with game on the line. If MAc was at 2nd then i could see reason to pinch run but not with runner on 1st and 2 outs. Mac’s at bat later would been far more important
Brian from SC
September 25th, 2012
9:07 pm
Veer, losing this game would decrease the Braves’ chances of winning the division by about 1%. The current probability is under 2%.
Trader Jack
September 25th, 2012
9:07 pm
Phillies 6 – Nats 3
Bottom 6th
Tomahawk Mafia
September 25th, 2012
9:07 pm
Jeff Baker and Lyle Overbay seemingly pinch hit for each other all the time.
Fols
September 25th, 2012
9:08 pm
Meds picked up the bats all year, time for the bats to pick up a bat!
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
9:08 pm
CTB,
Dude, it’s an anomaly. Stop panicking. Medlen’s mortal. His ERA might go up to like 0.95 or something.
Fredo
September 25th, 2012
9:08 pm
ugh
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
9:09 pm
Bottom line- hit your spot and it’s a single at most, more likely a ground out to first
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
9:09 pm
No run scored and BMac’s out. Pinch-running with 2 outs didn’t help. Baker falls to 1-10 as a Braves.
Veer
September 25th, 2012
9:09 pm
WHY THE F IS BAKER WITH THE BALL CLUB? A REJECT FROM TIGERS
Capt.Mudd
September 25th, 2012
9:09 pm
Baker….is cooking, right? Sigh! RISP
T-Dawg
September 25th, 2012
9:10 pm
Worst bench in baseball. And by baseball I’m including the entire minor league system. Maybe High School.
Brian from SC
September 25th, 2012
9:10 pm
Medlen pitched a phenomenal game. Credit the kid for hitting the only two mistakes he made out of the ballpark. Time to get some runs off of one of the worst bullpens in baseball.
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
9:10 pm
The Braves have a chance to clinch at least a spot in a one game wild card.
They should be spirited and relaxed and just play confidently.
They look like they’re seeing the ghosts of the 1919 Black Sox on the other side of the field.
So indescribably frustrating and disappointing.
Venice Jim
September 25th, 2012
9:10 pm
Thomas Boswell @ThomasBoswellWP
The whole N.L. East needs to take Donovan Solano to dinner and ask him how to hit Kris Medlen’s 89 mph fastball. Both HRs on same pitch.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 25th, 2012
9:10 pm
Is DOGGIE II coming out for the 8th?
Brian from SC
September 25th, 2012
9:11 pm
What makes you think the Braves aren’t relaxed, Mitchell? They seem to be taking it pretty easy to me.
Tomahawk Mafia
September 25th, 2012
9:11 pm
Jeff Baker and Lyle Overbay have contributed nothing offensively.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 25th, 2012
9:12 pm
Mitchell:
You enjoy repeating yourself don’t u?
ryan
September 25th, 2012
9:13 pm
Ozzie looked good there because are bench stinks. Who the hell we going to put on playoff roster. I”d rather see Hudson pinchhit than are worthless bench. Why not have Ross bat instead of no hit Baker.
Sopheee
September 25th, 2012
9:13 pm
Let’s 1-2-3 this ho and score some runs.
Veer
September 25th, 2012
9:13 pm
No reason to put Overbay or Hinske or any left handed hitter on the post season roster. I bet it wil be Jeff Baker pinch hitting for power hitters like Overbay and Hinske.
Mac’s at bat will come probably during a clutch situation of the game adn we will have Ross strikeout or do nothing. We needed Mac’s bat.
Premature pinch running. If you had to pinch run why not when Simmons was up there. It would have allowed more time for Constanza to steal a base.
Fredo
September 25th, 2012
9:13 pm
“T-Dawg: Worst bench in baseball.”
based on DOB’s Sep 21st column quote, “They’re also last in the majors in pinch-hitting average at .162″ … there’s no debating that
Fols
September 25th, 2012
9:14 pm
Never heard of Baker….all of a sudden he was sitting in our line-up….really we needed another useless bat?
Come on Braves! We need to pick this up for the Meddler!
keyLargo
September 25th, 2012
9:15 pm
Oh crap. Heath “Ding Dong” Bell will come in and pitch like Cy Young.
Jay Dubu
September 25th, 2012
9:15 pm
The Overbay / Baker experiment can be discontinued now.
no medlen
September 25th, 2012
9:15 pm
medlen maybe only allow 3 runs…but he stinks tonight only because he allowed that HR’s by a garbage AAA player….he deserves to lose the game…..and now im not sure about him for WC game…
i think it’s Hudson the right man for that type of games…..
Brian from SC
September 25th, 2012
9:15 pm
Well, you can’t say Wren didn’t try to fix his bench. No one has worked out yet.
ChattTownBrian
September 25th, 2012
9:15 pm
Do we need to be reminded every game that this is CJ’s final season? I think most fans know this by now. I mean I love the guy too, but I’m not drooling at his feet and worshiping the ground he walks on either. He’s just a baseball player.
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
9:15 pm
Maybe there’s hope we can lose out again, miss the playoffs and get rid of Fredi and Frank Wren.
It’s hard to know what would be better.
Get to the playoffs and lose in three to four games and spend the next five years averaging 86 wins or collapse completely (again) and fire everybody.
Tough, tough call.
Then again not really.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
9:15 pm
i suppourt Smotlz…no medlen for WC game…… Hudson you are the man for WC game…at least you dont allow Hrs
I guess since you aren’t a stathead or maybe don’t care to look them up, you don’t know this stuff, but since Medlen joined the rotation, he’d given up 3HR before tonight (so now 5 total). Hudson had given up 6 over that same time frame.
Brian from SC
September 25th, 2012
9:16 pm
ChattTownBrian, I would recommend turning the TV off for the next few games if you feel that way. It’s not going to get any “better”. The vast majority of Braves fans will enjoy the coverage.
ChattTownBrian
September 25th, 2012
9:17 pm
I think we all know the constant Chipper plugs are mostly, maybe all of it, due to making money. Plug, plug, plug. Money, money, money. Really all it’s about.
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
9:17 pm
No, I’m just forced to.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
9:18 pm
Bench is an achilles heel this year for sure….
Need to beat up this bullpen. Save the streak!
Brian from SC
September 25th, 2012
9:18 pm
Or, the Braves could go on a championship run and really upset folks like Mitchell. Here’s hoping!
phil
September 25th, 2012
9:18 pm
Talk about fat boys…..bell….pathetic slob.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
9:18 pm
CTB,
You’re joking, right?
no medlen
September 25th, 2012
9:20 pm
ok ,, but how many games have Medlen in playoffs??? and how many have Hudson???…
i dont want to watch Medlen meltdown under pressure ,,,, Hudson have the experience and the guts for win important games
Veer
September 25th, 2012
9:20 pm
WHAT THE F IS REED JOHNSON DOING? CAN’T DO NOTHING.
REASON WHY HE IS CAREER BACK UP
CANTG EVEN RUN
ChattTownBrian
September 25th, 2012
9:20 pm
Brian from SC, I enjoy the Chipper stuff like most other fans. That’s all I’m saying about that.
Capt.Mudd
September 25th, 2012
9:20 pm
You know I’m just going tosay this–@Mitchell….the guy’s actively articulating some personal thoughts on the team and game….we probably need to have a bit more patience and less critical thought when analyzing and commenting back.
phil
September 25th, 2012
9:21 pm
A preview of october 5th, this probably is….
Utter, numbing frustration.
no medlen
September 25th, 2012
9:22 pm
Hudson over Medlen for WC GAME
Brian from SC
September 25th, 2012
9:22 pm
Gosh, has the game been that frustrating? I think it’s been pretty fun to watch, myself. Well-pitched on both sides. It’s not like the Braves have played poorly.
ncbravesfan90
September 25th, 2012
9:22 pm
Swinging 3-0 with Chipper on deck???
Veer
September 25th, 2012
9:22 pm
heyward swinga at 3-0 junk
Fredo
September 25th, 2012
9:22 pm
still can’t get nothing going against Bell
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
9:22 pm
Went down 1-2-3, but Chipper will lead off the 9th. Hope he has some magic in him.
no medlen
September 25th, 2012
9:24 pm
cool Heyward swings in 3-0 count,,,,,,what a loser
no medlen
September 25th, 2012
9:24 pm
cool Heyward swings in 3-0 count,,,,,,what a loser
TBbravesfan
September 25th, 2012
9:24 pm
got to make up for not losing on monday.
Brian from SC
September 25th, 2012
9:24 pm
2 outs, no one on, down by a run, your best power hitter trying to juice one. Bell made a good pitch.
no medlen
September 25th, 2012
9:24 pm
cool Heyward swings in 3-0 count,,,,,,what a loser
Efrim
September 25th, 2012
9:24 pm
Man, he just hates to not swing lately. Gotta look to get on base with Chipper on deck and Freeman in the hole. Took it the other way for crying out loud…..
Eric C.
September 25th, 2012
9:24 pm
Bad 3-0 swing…bummer
Fols
September 25th, 2012
9:24 pm
This is the frustrating part of the Braves…if we give up 3…we’re in trouble.
I don’t want the streak to end…
Tomahawk Mafia
September 25th, 2012
9:24 pm
I really dislike the 3-0 swing. That ball was outside the zone and he should only been swinging at a pitch if it was in one particular area that where he could drive the ball out of the ballpark. That was a terrible at bat with the Braves trailing by one run and Chipper on deck.
Kat
September 25th, 2012
9:24 pm
Brewers are down 2-4 in the bot 7th.
Mldtown
September 25th, 2012
9:25 pm
Sometimes I feel that our hitters have problems between the ears.
phil
September 25th, 2012
9:25 pm
Elway….retires a same team HOF champ in 1998.
Robinson….retires a same team HOF champ in 2003.
Strahan….retires a same team HOF champ in 2007.
Chipper…..retires with a whimper in 2012?
ryan
September 25th, 2012
9:25 pm
Hope I”m wrong but I say the samething this team will play this way in playoff game.Bet Carpenter is licking his chops because he is always hurt til playoffs. Heyward hit the ball if you swing 3-0.
phil
September 25th, 2012
9:26 pm
Kimbrel?
I swear……
no medlen
September 25th, 2012
9:26 pm
now Fredi brings Kimbrel in no-sense situation ,,keep Kimbrel in the bullpen Fredi….this game is over
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
9:26 pm
The Chipper farewell tour has indeed become a tiresome affair.
The Braves publicity people must have sent out press releases to every team strongly encouraging them to lavish Chipper with gifts throughout the season.
Not to say he’s undeserving but It’s been a little unspontaneous.
And the non-stop promos; it’s getting to be a little much.
Half Empty
September 25th, 2012
9:27 pm
looked like both those homers to Donovan were in the same place
you just never know what will happen in a baseball game
T-Dawg
September 25th, 2012
9:27 pm
Sad….
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
9:27 pm
that was an aggressive Heyward, and it hurt.
no medlen: I sincerely hope you’re not serious… unfortunately, I’m afraid that you are
keyLargo
September 25th, 2012
9:27 pm
If the offense can’t put up 4+ runs, we might as well start Durbin.
phil
September 25th, 2012
9:27 pm
And you can likely bet that Jeter retires a same team HOF champ in a couple of years….
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
9:28 pm
Rossy!!!! Guess it’s a good thing that Fredi did run for Mac
Fredo
September 25th, 2012
9:28 pm
Nationals losing, Meds is pitching, and you can clinch a spot in the playoff for the playoffs
you’d hate to lose this game
ChattTownBrian
September 25th, 2012
9:28 pm
Come on let’s win it!
Bat Masterson
September 25th, 2012
9:29 pm
Efrim@ 9:24
No kidding. I mean just spit on that pitch
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
9:29 pm
Chipper…..retires with a whimper in 2012?
Probably. Through no fault of his own.
It’s just his team. Can’t handle the pressure. At all.
no medlen
September 25th, 2012
9:30 pm
tonight i lost my respect for Medlen,,,,ok maybe you can miss your spot one time,,,but no two times and noooooo vs garbage player like Solano…..i dont want Medlen pitching vs Beltran, Holliday, Molina and the rest of Cardinals in WC game……
phil
September 25th, 2012
9:30 pm
There will be no chipper magic here…..weak grounder to second, maybe.
Atlanta is where dreams go to die….remember?
phil
September 25th, 2012
9:31 pm
4 hits….
4 hits….
Another dud performance when it matters.
Tomahawk Mafia
September 25th, 2012
9:31 pm
I have faith in Chipper’s ability to reach base and begin a rally in the bottom of the 9th inning.
Veer
September 25th, 2012
9:31 pm
John Smoltz was my fav brave of recent time. Hudson is my current fav Brave.
Chipper is just a Brave. I dont worship him. I worship the Braves.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
9:31 pm
Mike Dunn can be wild, be patient
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
9:32 pm
keyLargo
September 25th, 2012
9:27 pm
If the offense can’t put up 4+ runs, we might as well start Durbin.
That’s funny. I almost want to laugh but I can’t.
I’m trying not to throw chairs against walls.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
9:33 pm
If you lose your respect for Medlen because he allowed 3 runs on 2 HR, you should’ve lost respect for Huddy after he gave back 5-6 runs leads multiple times.
Both guys are good, Medlen is better right now.
CHIPPER!!!!! Pinch run Fredi. Pastornicky!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
9:33 pm
If you lose your respect for Medlen because he allowed 3 runs on 2 HR, you should’ve lost respect for Huddy after he gave back 5-6 runs leads multiple times.
Both guys are good, Medlen is better right now.
Sopheee
September 25th, 2012
9:33 pm
That’s only appropriate.
Half Empty
September 25th, 2012
9:33 pm
Old Man!!!
phil
September 25th, 2012
9:33 pm
I lied…..
Attaboy, Chipper!!
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
9:33 pm
Thank God for Chipper.
Everybody else sucks.
Fredo
September 25th, 2012
9:33 pm
they should at least tie this game considering the situation ….. should
Jay Dubu
September 25th, 2012
9:33 pm
This game has the look and feel of the 1 game playoff that the Braves will play on Oct 5th.
Brian from SC
September 25th, 2012
9:36 pm
Take that, complaining complainers!
ChattTownBrian
September 25th, 2012
9:36 pm
AWESOME!
abeeeewright
September 25th, 2012
9:36 pm
Kris Medlen is the lucky charm! 22 consecutive games your team wins when you start.
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
9:36 pm
Tomahawk Mafia
September 25th, 2012
9:31 pm
I have faith in Chipper’s ability to reach base and begin a rally in the bottom of the 9th inning.
Nice call.
Here come the pop-ups.
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
9:36 pm
calling the walk off
Fredo
September 25th, 2012
9:36 pm
sweetums
Brava
September 25th, 2012
9:36 pm
Freddie Feaking Freeman with da.BOMB!!!!!!!
Veer
September 25th, 2012
9:36 pm
FREDIE FREEMAN NEEDS TO MAKE A F ING CONTACT HERE. F!!!!!!
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
9:36 pm
calling the walk off
Venice Jim
September 25th, 2012
9:36 pm
FLIPPING WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mldtown
September 25th, 2012
9:36 pm
Wow … good job, boys.
Rick C
September 25th, 2012
9:36 pm
HOLY SH*T!!!!!!!!!!!
BFChris27
September 25th, 2012
9:36 pm
Freeman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fols
September 25th, 2012
9:36 pm
OH NO WE DIDN’T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sopheee
September 25th, 2012
9:36 pm
Holy bananas, I can’t breathe.
Animus
September 25th, 2012
9:36 pm
FF HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chipper ties Alomar
Braves Clinch a play-in game
Meds streak is ALIVE
WOW – JUST WOW
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
9:36 pm
Told y’all this guy is wild… Patience
Freddie!!!!!!!! PLAYOFFFS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Half Empty
September 25th, 2012
9:36 pm
WTG Fredi. kept Meds streak alive
HooRah
September 25th, 2012
9:37 pm
really got that one right phil
Mitchell, stick it jerk
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
9:37 pm
The streak lives on! And all collapse talk can end. Now to clinch the #1…
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
9:37 pm
Stupid blog messed up my calling that walk off!
FREDDIEEEEEEEEE
BFChris27
September 25th, 2012
9:37 pm
What a NIGHT
M.V.P.Heyward
September 25th, 2012
9:37 pm
The Clincher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
njbraves
September 25th, 2012
9:37 pm
That was awesome.
Fols
September 25th, 2012
9:38 pm
Way too many trolls………they need to go away and quit pretending they are fans.
All that hate….and we win the ball game!
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
9:38 pm
Thank God.
It’s the f*ing Marlins, Braves.
Jesus.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
9:38 pm
What we need is a lineup full of Mitchells. Not an ounce of quit in that team!
abeeeewright
September 25th, 2012
9:38 pm
I forgot that Freddie made the last out last year. This year, his bomb puts the Braves into the playoffs.
phil
September 25th, 2012
9:38 pm
Freddie!!
Yes! Yes! Yes!
Jay Dubu
September 25th, 2012
9:38 pm
This is how we doi it!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=this+is+how+we+do+it+montell+jordan&oq=this+is+how+we+do+&gs_l=youtube.1.2.0l10.4453.9407.0.12110.20.13.1.6.7.0.141.1406.5j8.13.0…0.0…1ac.1.X4lZvjDUTM4
Ken Stallings
September 25th, 2012
9:38 pm
YEAH BABY!!!!!
How cool was that!!!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
9:39 pm
Nats are losing too…. let’s go!
Brian from SC
September 25th, 2012
9:39 pm
Love it! Make the complainers look like fools!
Kat
September 25th, 2012
9:39 pm
AWESOME!!!!!!
Venice Jim
September 25th, 2012
9:39 pm
Chipper scores two, drives in the other – #magicalthirdbaseman…
Ken Stallings
September 25th, 2012
9:39 pm
So, if the Braves do the amazing and pass the Nats and win the division, do they take two champagne showers!!!!
keyLargo
September 25th, 2012
9:40 pm
Hey Mitchell — That’s a 4+ up on the scoreboard.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
9:40 pm
I was off by one….Chipper didn’t get the HR, Freddie did. BRAVES IN THE PLAYOFFS! Well, sort of…
Oh, to be a fly on the wall with Ozzie and Heath! DELICIOUS!!
T-Dawg
September 25th, 2012
9:40 pm
Thank you Fredi!
Brava
September 25th, 2012
9:40 pm
I’m so happy I’m crying.
Astral
September 25th, 2012
9:40 pm
Mitchell is a fool. Ignore him
Ken Stallings
September 25th, 2012
9:40 pm
Kris Medlen has his team pick him up for a change and consequently, he now ties Whitey Ford and Carl Hubbel for 22 consecutive team victories in starts made!
Bat Masterson
September 25th, 2012
9:40 pm
Atta boy, Chipper.
Come on, Freddie
At least get him to third, if not home
Ha, nevermind he’s on third
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
9:41 pm
Yes, it’s so bad to be positive…. Atlanta is where dreams go to die. If we can’t score 4, start Durbin, etc. We did it y’all!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
9:41 pm
Yes, it’s so bad to be positive…. Atlanta is where dreams go to die. If we can’t score 4, start Durbin, etc. We did it y’all!
keyLargo
September 25th, 2012
9:41 pm
NOBODY AND I MEAN NOBODY BETTER GIVE UP ON THE NL EAST. gNATS HAVE 6 TO PLAY AGAINST PHILLY.QA
phil
September 25th, 2012
9:41 pm
Glad to be dead wrong!
Rose from the ashes tonight!
With this celebration, if we get 2 hits tomorrow night, a miracle.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
9:42 pm
Medlen picked up the bats earlier, tonight they picked him up.
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
great job by #braves. follow collapse with very fine season. (red sox didnt do quite as well in that regard)
Disgusted
September 25th, 2012
9:43 pm
This is nice and a step in the right direction.
We still have to hold off STL, there is no excuse for the Braves not to.
I do not expect to catch the Nats, just beat out STL and win the WC. That is all I ask for now.
But do not forget that no matter what happens, it still does not take away and erase the history of what happened last yr, the sting of September of 2011 should never be forgotten.
I am still mad about last yr even if they win it all, its not complete redemption for that collapse in my book.
Venice Jim
September 25th, 2012
9:43 pm
Thomas Boswell @ThomasBoswellWP
Chipper double. Freeman homer. Braves win. After that walk-off fuel, don’t expect them to lose too many more.
Tomahawk Mafia
September 25th, 2012
9:43 pm
Leadoff man on second base. He has to score. No excuses.
The A Bomb
September 25th, 2012
9:43 pm
FREDERICK OF HOLLYWOOD!
Playoffs!
HEYWARD SUCKS!
Don’t blow it Gonzalez.
MFin04
September 25th, 2012
9:43 pm
That right there is this offense believing in Kris Medlen and winning a game for him. AMAZING!
Sopheee
September 25th, 2012
9:43 pm
Get Chipper some goggles.
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
9:44 pm
I’m done.
I’m just glad Medlen didn’t get a loss.
It’s just a one game playoff though. Let’s not get too crazy.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
9:44 pm
In twitter jail… apparently I sent too many tweets last night about the refs stuff. That sucks
Moe Berg
September 25th, 2012
9:44 pm
MLB- Freddie Freeman redemption
Freddie Freeman with some nice redemption for last season with his postseason-clinching walk-off home run. Freeman made the final outs that knocked out the Braves last season– hitting into a double play in the 13th inning of a 4-3 loss to the Phillies on the final day of the 2011 season. He went 1-for-13 in that series. Also of note on Freddie Freeman. When he’s started this season, the Braves are 84-54. When he doesn’t, the Braves are 5-11
1 minute ago | ESPN Stats and Information
JC Brave
September 25th, 2012
9:44 pm
Braves WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
9:45 pm
Thrilled that Extra Innings is hanging with the locker room interviews. So great to be able to watch
Half Empty
September 25th, 2012
9:46 pm
Ya gotta believe!!!!
Disgusted
September 25th, 2012
9:46 pm
I give the Braves credit for comming back out there and having a good year, but seems like many are forgetting about last September, like it was all right.
Sept 2011 will never be all right as long as time exists. Its history that cannot and never will be reversed.
Tomahawk Mafia
September 25th, 2012
9:46 pm
Should they be celebrating with champaign? They have merely clinched a one-game playoff. I like the excitement though.
brian
September 25th, 2012
9:46 pm
Absolutely awesome
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
9:47 pm
Okay, it was a walk-off.
I’ll give it to ‘em.
Bad start. Good ending.
I’m relieved.
Disgusted
September 25th, 2012
9:47 pm
Next yr Freddie could be a 30-35 HR 110 RBI guy.
He is still a kid and there is more to come from him.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
9:47 pm
DOB is such a bum for missing this…
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
9:48 pm
Disgusted-
So we should all just be depressed and miserable forever because of it? Never move on? It’s over and done with. Perhaps you should let it go. Can’t change the past, no point in lingering over it…
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
9:48 pm
It’s going to be great seeing 40,000+ Tomahawks at Turner on those cold October nights again.
phil
September 25th, 2012
9:48 pm
October 5th is still out there!
Remain calm….
tina
September 25th, 2012
9:48 pm
Please Chipper one more year.
brian
September 25th, 2012
9:48 pm
Yes they should celebrate tonight. Redemption and they have earned it. They could have easily folded after Milwaukee.
Tomorrow, it is back to business
Disgusted
September 25th, 2012
9:48 pm
I like the celebration but I want them to stay hungry.
STL is a pain in the tail and we cannot choke up to them. Remember last yr.
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
9:49 pm
It’s a long season.
They can celebrate if they want to.
Lyle and Jeff have to clean up though.
Venice Jim
September 25th, 2012
9:49 pm
Brian Finneran @BFinn86
Any #Braves need a ride home tonight call me or a cab. Have fun and get ready for a long playoff run!!
ChattTownBrian
September 25th, 2012
9:49 pm
WOW even Fredi G. was bouncin’ and hoppin’ after the homerun.
Nerdville
September 25th, 2012
9:50 pm
okay, now they have clinched a spot in the play in game. now go win the division.
Venice Jim
September 25th, 2012
9:50 pm
Adam Kilgore @AdamKilgoreWP
Phillies bullpen having its way with the Nats. Four relievers have retired all nine they’ve faced. One ball out of the infield.
Half Empty
September 25th, 2012
9:50 pm
what you going to do Disgusted hold that disappointment in your heart forever?
Of course most people are trying to get over it. You should too
Chop
September 25th, 2012
9:50 pm
This is why baseball is such a beautiful game…what a finish!! Go Braves!! Next stop, the division.
Veer
September 25th, 2012
9:50 pm
PLAYOFFS!!!!
WE CAN STIL WIN THE DIVISION OUR ODDS PROBABLY GO FROM 2 PERCENT TO 4 PERCENT
Mldtown
September 25th, 2012
9:50 pm
As I said, a little challenged between the ears. Dousing guys doing interviews as if they won it all.
Venice Jim
September 25th, 2012
9:51 pm
Tyler Kepner @TylerKepner
Braves, wow. Teams almost never recover from epic collapses like 2011. Feeling good about picking Fredi Gonzalez for NL mgr of the year.
Disgusted
September 25th, 2012
9:51 pm
Maybe you can get over it CAB — I can’t.
But I am not depressed and miserable, just angry about last yr. And there is more work to be done.
I am happy the Braves came up with a good yr but for me I cannot get over last Sept, sorry. I cannot let that go.
There is forgiveness but not forgetfulness. And they really burnt me last yr — hope we have a good long post season run.
Veer
September 25th, 2012
9:51 pm
Chipper will probably be out for season due to cold from champagene. Players should be careful with Chipper. He could miss some games due to celebration
keyLargo
September 25th, 2012
9:51 pm
That right there is this offense believing in Kris Medlen and winning a game for him. AMAZING!
Kimbrell was the WP.
Tomahawk Mafia
September 25th, 2012
9:53 pm
I have all the confidence in the world that the Braves will score runs off of Michael Dunn every time he pitches against them. The Braves own him.
abeeeewright
September 25th, 2012
9:53 pm
You have to be a Dedicated Downer to be sad about anything after tonight’s win.
Walk off 2 run HR.
A little Freddie Freeman redemption.
Meds ties a pretty stout record.
Chipper moves up a place on the all-time hits list.
Still alive in the division race (and about to be a game closer).
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
9:53 pm
Brian Finneran @BFinn86
Any #Braves need a ride home tonight call me or a cab. Have fun and get ready for a long playoff run!!
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
9:53 pm
Disgusted-
Dude…We got it. Braves still have to play the play-in game. They, in fact, have NOT won the World Series yet. I think we all fully understand this. Now, please, at least pretend you’re happy our team just won.
Disgusted
September 25th, 2012
9:53 pm
I guess so Half Empty. To me this win is nice but bittersweet cause of last yr — most fans can get over it better than I can.
I never never will get over it and will take it to my grave. But still love the team, hate the disappointment of 2011.
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
9:55 pm
Why would you go to the game and then leave right after?
I mean, I’m not there but if I was I’d be by the dugout.
Half Empty
September 25th, 2012
9:55 pm
Whitey Ford was a little guy too, just like Meds
njbraves
September 25th, 2012
9:55 pm
Braves are in the playoffs and people are still complaining about last year? Unreal. Some of you will never be happy with this team.
HooRah
September 25th, 2012
9:56 pm
Veer you are a smartmouthed jerkoff
smallmouth6
September 25th, 2012
9:56 pm
Good job, Carroll. Congrats to the Braves and to all the REAL fans of the Atlanta Braves!
Trader Jack
September 25th, 2012
9:56 pm
The Nats have that deer in the headlights look
Chop Chop
September 25th, 2012
9:57 pm
Davey Johnson will be NL Manager of the Year.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 25th, 2012
9:57 pm
So, here’s the Million $ question: suppose the braves and Nats finish the regular season tied. Would the two play a one-game playoff for the division title, or do the Nats win it based on head-to-head record during the regular season?
cricket
September 25th, 2012
9:57 pm
can we have half a stinkin page of comments just enjoying the success of the team?
how do these people celebrate birthdays of loved ones – by reminding them that death is closer by one more year?
Half Empty
September 25th, 2012
9:58 pm
playoff game Navy
Chop Chop
September 25th, 2012
9:58 pm
These Braves haven’t accomplished anything. If they make it to the World Series, I’ll change my mind.
SteveInFXBG
September 25th, 2012
9:58 pm
Congrats Braves! So proud of these guys. I really wish I lived closer to Atlanta.
Disgusted
September 25th, 2012
9:58 pm
US Navy — I am happy about the win like all of them. It was a comeback effort.
But, there is more work to do. And these guys CAN do it, they have done far more than I thought they would.
If they have a long run and just get to the WS, I just might be able to let go of last yr.
Just want a good long post season run, and even if they lose a 6 or 7 game WS I will actually be happy. If they win it all, I might let the whole thing go.
There is alot more work too do — that is all. And they have done good work.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
9:58 pm
Feeling good about picking Fredi Gonzalez for NL mgr of the year.
Gotta make his haters cringe…
cricket
September 25th, 2012
9:59 pm
usnavyvolfaninva – one-game playoff if braves and nats tie
kral
September 25th, 2012
9:59 pm
heck yeah get crazy…these type of moments do not come around forever..enjoy the moment it was special…pizz about something else..sorry for you
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
9:59 pm
“People who live in the past generally are afraid to compete in the present. I’ve got my faults, but living in the past is not one of them. There’s no future in it.”
Sparky Anderson
Half Empty
September 25th, 2012
10:00 pm
It will not happen, but i would laugh all winter if Fredi won MOY
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
10:00 pm
Whitey Ford was a cheater just like countless other legendary Yankee players.
Not to mention Bobby Thompson and Gaylord Perry.
Those guys were probably worse than the ones we have now.
The guy scuffed baseballs. That’s a fact.
phil
September 25th, 2012
10:00 pm
Frozen Fredi!!
Can’t fire the bum now!
MFin04
September 25th, 2012
10:01 pm
Congrats guys for sticking with this team this year. Props to us.
Been fun, let’s hope this is just the beginning of something special.
Nola
September 25th, 2012
10:01 pm
Great win tonight! Now let’s keep it going and win this division.
Half Empty
September 25th, 2012
10:01 pm
how the hell would you know about Ford, you didn’t even know who Baker was.
and back in those days most scuffed balls
TBbravesfan
September 25th, 2012
10:02 pm
where is McFann.
cricket
September 25th, 2012
10:02 pm
must have lived a blessed life if a terribly disappointing season by favorite sport team is something one takes to grave..honestly i wish i was so lucky
time to catch up on DVR’d stuff
Trader Jack
September 25th, 2012
10:03 pm
Final
Phillies 6 Nats 3
phil
September 25th, 2012
10:03 pm
This bunch will drive you nuts one minute and thrill you to the core the next…..
What a strange season!
Bring back Chipper!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
10:04 pm
ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
Freddie Freeman is 2nd player to clinch playoff berth with walk-off HR with team trailing in game. Other: Bobby Thomson for 1951 Giants
keyLargo
September 25th, 2012
10:05 pm
The Phils did beat the Nats tonight.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
10:05 pm
Preston Wilson @PrestonWilson44
Congratulations to Fredi Gonzalez my one time minor league manager and more importantly a great man. Hard to find a better person!!
But, he’s such a bum…
Disgusted
September 25th, 2012
10:05 pm
Wonder what Jeffrey Loria has to say now?
TO his credit Fredi is a legit MOY candidate expecially if he has a long post season run. Why not?
And in the Frank Wren era, in spite of the Liberty Media payroll he has two teams that made the post season, and it really should be three in a row but we have it better than alot of baseball cities.
TP
September 25th, 2012
10:05 pm
Sometimes on this blog I feel like I’m surrounded by a room full of little red-face, pus-filled pimples boys. He swung at a bad pitch….he suxs, he threw a ball….he can’t pitch, he can’t see, he can’t hear, he can’t whatever…..he suxs.
Walkoff hr……yaaaaaay he mad he happy, let me go tell my mommie.
Mommie gives him warm milk and cookies and he smiles and log back on the blog.
The wussification of america
Sopheee
September 25th, 2012
10:06 pm
Aw, Fredi’s crying.
Lee in S GA
September 25th, 2012
10:07 pm
Braves clinch playoff spot, Falcons 3-0 and Dawgs 4-0 ….wonder if this has ever happen at the same time before…GA sports teams looking pretty darn good at the moment
Here Comes Honey Boo Boo
September 25th, 2012
10:07 pm
gnats lose !! 4 back…..
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
10:07 pm
4 back with 8 to play…. it is doable
Ken Stallings
September 25th, 2012
10:07 pm
Fredi Gonzalez conducted a class interview with Bryan Jordan after the game.
HooRah
September 25th, 2012
10:07 pm
yeah there are sum dumb sumbitches on here, without question
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
10:07 pm
Kinda hasn’t sunk in what Freddie Freeman did.
That’s pretty amazing.
I mean, it’s Mike Dunn and the Marlins but still.
Still not really the playoffs but that was like something other teams always seem to do, like the Rays, and the Braves never do.
Kinda came out of nowhere.
abeeeewright
September 25th, 2012
10:07 pm
Four games back with 8 games to go.
A glimmer.
A flicker.
A 163rd game in Washington starting to look a little more likely.
phil
September 25th, 2012
10:08 pm
Stick it in your ear, TP…..doof
abeeeewright
September 25th, 2012
10:08 pm
If it plays out this way, Braves could go 7-10 versus the Nats and win the season series.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
10:08 pm
Aw, Fredi’s crying.
I thought he was a robot? Good for him, he’s accomplished a great feat. And it has to feel really good after how last year ended.
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
10:09 pm
Hey hey, great win! Going to miss Chipper, best original Atlanta Brave ever
Trader Jack
September 25th, 2012
10:09 pm
Down to 4 games
Disgusted
September 25th, 2012
10:09 pm
“People who live in the past generally are afraid to compete in the present. I’ve got my faults, but living in the past is not one of them. There’s no future in it.”
I get it CAB — good Sparky Anderson quite. And Freddie Freeman is not afraid to compete in the present.
And this bunch of guys just might have it in them for a good long playoff run. There is alot of charachter in this bunch.
But we have had post season disappointments before so got to wait and see. I do want to give credit where credit is due. But do not want to set myself up for too big a disappointment in case they go out in the WC game.
Bama Braves
September 25th, 2012
10:09 pm
THAT WAS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
SteveInFXBG
September 25th, 2012
10:10 pm
Fredi Gonzalez has upped his game the last month or so. I give him credit.
phil
September 25th, 2012
10:10 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
10:04 pm
ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
Freddie Freeman is 2nd player to clinch playoff berth with walk-off HR with team trailing in game. Other: Bobby Thomson for 1951 Giants
**********
wow. That really is something.
Chop Chop
September 25th, 2012
10:10 pm
Fredi’s crying because he has finally proven that he’s a better manager than Bobby Cox.
HooRah
September 25th, 2012
10:10 pm
stick it in your ear. phil. TP had it 100% right. Y’all a bunch of whining kindergartners.
Ken Stallings
September 25th, 2012
10:11 pm
WOW! I was just reviewing the NL standings and suddenly noticed that not a single team in the AL has clinched postseason! Not a single one!
Cards are leading the Astros 2-0 in the bottom of the seventh, but the Astros have the tying run at plate with one out. So, might the Astros finally get off the snide and win a game?
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
10:11 pm
Walk-off home runs a rarity in general the past two years.
I just hope we win the wild card game and make it to a Game 5 in the first round.
Is that asking too much?
Probably.
HooRah
September 25th, 2012
10:11 pm
FCS Mitchell, did your mother beat you every day as a child?
Fredo
September 25th, 2012
10:12 pm
Kendrick (4.75 career ERA vs Nats / 2.70 ERA in his last start vs the Nats) vs
Lannan (5.79 career ERA vs Philly) tomorrow
(to take advantage of a potential loss, Maholm/Braves will have to beat Josh Johnson)
Ken Stallings
September 25th, 2012
10:13 pm
Astros have runners at the corners with one out — tying run now at first!
Braves magic number over Cards for home field Wild Card is already down to three with eight left to play, but if the Cards lose it goes down to two. Unfortunately, we are relying upon the hapless Astros here and they proceeded to ground into an inning-ending DP!
phil
September 25th, 2012
10:13 pm
Happy for Fredi as much as Chipper…..
Even if we choke on it on the 5th, he’s been through hell with this bunch and has emerged in pretty darn good shape, at least for now.
Well done!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
10:13 pm
Matt Chernoff @RealMattlanta
Fredi Gonzalez did a great job managing this club. Even the moronic Fredi haters have to give credit tonight. Haven’t heard from them lately
Chop Chop
September 25th, 2012
10:14 pm
Ken Stallings,
The minutiae doesn’t matter. The Braves can blow it no matter how promising the circumstances are. It’s up to them not to blow it and to go get that damned World Series pennant.
Nowhere Man
September 25th, 2012
10:14 pm
Braves clinch and David O’brien nowhere to be found. Karma baby.
phil
September 25th, 2012
10:14 pm
HooRah = brains of mush…..
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
10:15 pm
Disgusted-
I (partially anyways
) did not mean that as 100% directed at you but it IS a great quote (and the way I live, pretty much). And I do understand not wanting to get over excited about the playoffs, but I also believe that not celebrating this team because you are still bitter about last season is pointless and a bit…sad. What’s done is done. This is not last year’s team. (Disclaimer: I do actually like you and find most of your comments interesting or relevant or at the very least entertaining. I just wish you could let yourself enjoy this year
)
Venice Jim
September 25th, 2012
10:15 pm
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
david wright has tied ed kranepool atop #mets alltime hit list w/ 1,418. wright did it in half as many years, 9
My guy Steady Eddie never scuffed baseballs…
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
10:16 pm
Unlike Bobby Thompson, Freddie Freeman didn’t know what was coming.
phil
September 25th, 2012
10:16 pm
Matt Chernoff understands morons quite well, being one of the leaders in that category…..
Nowhere Man
September 25th, 2012
10:16 pm
Paul, ace, mixxo, etc. Enjoy this win in bozoland or where ever you may be.
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
10:17 pm
(with apologies while channeling my inner George_George)
Disgusted-
I (partially anyways ) did not mean that as 100% directed at you but it IS a great quote (and the way I live, pretty much). And I do understand not wanting to get over excited about the playoffs, but I also believe that not celebrating this team because you are still bitter about last season is pointless and a bit…sad. What’s done is done. This is not last year’s team. (Disclaimer: I do actually like you and find most of your comments interesting or relevant or at the very least entertaining. I just wish you could let yourself enjoy this year )
abeeeewright
September 25th, 2012
10:17 pm
“I just hope we win the wild card game”
Division winners don’t play in the wild card game.
“I just hope we … make it to a Game 5 in the first round.”
How’s that going to happen when the Braves sweep the first round?
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
10:18 pm
let’s all hold hands and be happy guys
Venice Jim
September 25th, 2012
10:19 pm
phil – since you are someone who claims to be sarcastic every time you are called on being negative (which I honestly believe that you are honest about), why are you so sensitive when other unnamed negative people are called out? Serious question, not giving you a hard time…
Here Comes Honey Boo Boo
September 25th, 2012
10:19 pm
Aint Nobody gone beat My Braves !, Honey Boo Boo Child !!!!!
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
10:19 pm
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
For those who asked if there was going to be a champagne celebration if #Braves clinched, you should feel the knots in my hair. (posted by Carroll)
Total girl comment
And I feel your pain! I’ve been there (not the champagne celebration, but the knots in the hair for sure!
phil
September 25th, 2012
10:21 pm
Riveting Fredi interview! Lol
He must indeed be a nice guy.
kral
September 25th, 2012
10:21 pm
boys look ahead and they miss the moments that are special..I really feel sorry for you ..YOU should of lived through the early 70’s..oh what the elll do not let some take away this..they will never enjoy the spirit of baseball..and the magic of this season
HooRah
September 25th, 2012
10:21 pm
phil = brains of mush and bullcrap. whining little baby
The A Bomb
September 25th, 2012
10:22 pm
Fredi Gonzalez = Bicentennial Man
Love the Star Trek Convention calling for Manager of the Year. He’ll get some votes but Johnson, Baker and I’d even throw Bud Black in there.
Hope he doesn’t forget we still need to wrap up home field for the one-game circus.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
10:22 pm
I’d give anything just to be in that clubhouse right now. It’s gotta be fun.
Since we made the playoffs, I’d think that we’ll see even less of the haters now. We can only hope.
phil
September 25th, 2012
10:23 pm
Not following, VJ….i don’t remember what i say for long after it’s said.
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
10:24 pm
of course he is full of crap, he is a lawyer
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
10:24 pm
abeeeewright
September 25th, 2012
10:17 pm
“I just hope we win the wild card game”
Division winners don’t play in the wild card game.
“I just hope we … make it to a Game 5 in the first round.”
How’s that going to happen when the Braves sweep the first round?
Point, counterpoint.
Prado, Put The Dirt Down!
September 25th, 2012
10:24 pm
Martin! You’re great! We love you! But geez guy you’re gonna put someone on the DL when you fill their eyes with dirt! You already did it once to Mac last year. Did you not learn anything?
The Braves should fine him enough so that he won’t think about doing it again.
K rant over.
phil
September 25th, 2012
10:26 pm
Kiss it, pete…..
phil
September 25th, 2012
10:27 pm
Prado is as dense as HooRah….
phil
September 25th, 2012
10:30 pm
Thinking about it, VJ, if you meant basically coming to ACE’s defense, i don’t think the guy meant any harm, and nor do most of the negative sorts….
It is what it is….not quite as bad as it’s made out to be.
My negativity tonight was pretty real, actually. Frustrated to death and then it turned…..
FEAR
September 25th, 2012
10:31 pm
Let’s go get that division!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
10:36 pm
Andrelton Simmons @Andrelton
#WOW getting it done with style #WOW
Pastornicky needs a twitter…
Bat Masterson
September 25th, 2012
10:37 pm
Since we made the playoffs, I’d think that we’ll see even less of the haters now. We can only hope.
Kind of seems to me the blog comments are already drying up.
Maybe soon we’ll be down to a couple of pages per blog of yay Braves comments
Lane Kiffin
September 25th, 2012
10:42 pm
Bat that is the truth. Four days of the last blog to get what used to be one day.
We have lost some good posters to banishment or leaving on their own because of the situation.
keyLargo
September 25th, 2012
10:44 pm
Bat — I don’t remember when you came on, but the best this blog ever was when we’d have 700 to 1000 hits a day AND everybody had one name. It was so much fun to go back and find where someone had said something a week ago and then find the exact opposite thing today. You could cite the name, date, time and what was said and then compare it to the 180 degree stance they were taking today.
Puma
September 25th, 2012
10:44 pm
Nats lead to 4…could “epic” collapse be in their future? I wonder how far ahead of the Cardinals we were at this time last year, with 8 games left?
keyLargo
September 25th, 2012
10:44 pm
Bat — I don’t remember when you came on, but the best this blog ever was when we’d have 700 to 1000 hits a day AND everybody had one name. It was so much fun to go back and find where someone had said something a week ago and then find the exact opposite thing today. You could cite the name, date, time and what was said and then compare it to the 180 degree stance they were taking today.
Disgusted
September 25th, 2012
10:44 pm
CAB — I understand that your coments were not directly aimed at me but I actually liked the Sparky Anderson quote cause that is how I do think life should be lived though I can honestly say that I do not practice that.
That is my fault.
I thank you for the kind words on your 10:15 post.
Now, if they do beat STL in the WC game that will make me very very happy. This is a very entertaining team. Very much so.
On a more important note is to hope and pray (for those who do believe) for the well being of Dusty Baker. Now, that is a real personal baseball issue, more serious than a fan (like me) mooning about some disappointment from last yr that is history that nothing can be done about.
I wish the best for Dusty Baker (word was he had a minor stroke). That is serious stuff.
Bravefaninok
September 25th, 2012
10:45 pm
Chop Chop
September 25th, 2012
9:57 pm
Davey Johnson will be NL Manager of the Year.
Even after the Braves win the division???
toast
September 25th, 2012
10:48 pm
hey lane- get over it maybe, and quit being so dramatic as well. this blog is pretty irrelevant for most people who value more important things and keep things in perspective. quit bringing up the armed forces card as well, not appropriate.
Disgusted
September 25th, 2012
10:50 pm
Freddie Freeman does not deserve to be Booed.
Ever again. Never ever again.
GTI in Brooklyn
September 25th, 2012
10:50 pm
Nats Lost.
Brewers Lost.
Cards just finished up a shutout in Houston.
The Dodgers are scoreless in SD.
(Oh, yeah, and we’re GOING TO THE PLAYOFFS. Woohoo!)
Bat Masterson
September 25th, 2012
10:51 pm
Bat — I don’t remember when you came on, _ keyLargo
What? I guess I should have made a better entrance.
It’s been over 4 years I think. But yeah, even then I think it was more like that.
Venice Jim
September 25th, 2012
10:51 pm
phil – no, it was the comments to Hoo Rah – no biggie. Even I came to like ACE – he and I had good interactions when he kept away from one track commentary…
Puma
September 25th, 2012
10:51 pm
So with 8 games left last year, Braves were 88-67, Cardinals were 85-69, so what is that 2 1/2 games? I guess they were a bit closer than we were at this point.
kenhotlanta
September 25th, 2012
10:51 pm
Great night to be a Braves fan, we have had many big moments this year and lets hope we have a few more!
Disgusted
September 25th, 2012
10:51 pm
Vince Mc Mahon > Roger Goddell.
Roger Goddell deserves to be Booed. I find him to be a phony and a hypocrite and the players are tuned out on his protect the shield stuff and can understand why the players do not trust him.
GTI in Brooklyn
September 25th, 2012
10:52 pm
Bravefaninok:
If the Braves manage a miracle Division Crown over the Nats, then I can’t see how the voters could overlook FREDI. (I haven’t given up hope on either happening, yet.)
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
10:53 pm
Disgusted-
Now is a great time to start living for today
I agree about Dusty- not just a serious baseball issue, but a serious health issue for a man who is, by all reports, a good person and a great baseball mind. hope for the best for him
Powder Blue
September 25th, 2012
10:56 pm
So happy for this team and especially for Chipper. Keep it up, guys!
phil
September 25th, 2012
10:57 pm
Whatever I was saying, i was just messin with HooRah….
I don’t like Baker from his Dodgers days, but I hope he’s ok.
Mixxo
September 25th, 2012
10:58 pm
cabravesfan -
Good Call !!!
phil
September 25th, 2012
10:59 pm
Medlen should be boooed, right?
Good nite, all!
Bat Masterson
September 25th, 2012
11:00 pm
We have lost some good posters to banishment or leaving on their own because of the situation.
Damn that Jersey Shore guy.
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
11:00 pm
Mixxo-
on the walk off? I tried to post it before Freddie went deep, and the blog refused
Bat Masterson
September 25th, 2012
11:05 pm
Ha, I made a comment about getting Chipper to third that showed up after the games was over. Kind of frustrating when the blog freezes up.
Mixxo
September 25th, 2012
11:05 pm
Yeah the walk off, I thought you did post it before it happened but, I just read it so, my timing might be all messed up.
keyLargo
September 25th, 2012
11:05 pm
x-Washington 93 61 .604
x-Atlanta ……..89 65 .578 4.0(GB)
Hillbilly
September 25th, 2012
11:06 pm
No spoilers but, damn…Sons of Anarchy…wow.
Mixxo
September 25th, 2012
11:07 pm
Andrew Jones just hit a 2-out 9th inning bomb for more Yankee ‘life.’
uga-brave
September 25th, 2012
11:07 pm
saw three walkoffs this season. two by hoss against the phillies and freddie tonight. very cool stuff.
funniest thing about the celebration was prado doing his normal dirt thing.
just running around throwing dirt at and on everyone. love it.
Puma
September 25th, 2012
11:09 pm
Who dumped the cooler on Freeman?
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2012
11:10 pm
Mixxo-
It sort of posted before the walk off, but I tried to submit it right after Chipper doubled
Venice Jim
September 25th, 2012
11:12 pm
Well done, uga!
Venice Jim
September 25th, 2012
11:13 pm
paul maholm @paul_maholm
What a game and what a way to clinch a playoff spot. The celebration was fun and look forward to having a few more
tony austin
September 25th, 2012
11:14 pm
I was at a basketball game keeping track of the Braves on my phone. I saw “In play, run scored.” Then I saw Freddie Freeman homers! Now that’s a way to clinch a playoff spot! Happy for the Braves and happy for Chipper. Last September can now bite me.
WTG Braves!
Venice Jim
September 25th, 2012
11:15 pm
From Adam Kilgore:
The Nationals moved no closer to clinching the National League East, their magic number saying at five as the Atlanta Braves beat the Miami Marlins with a walk-off home run.
The Nationals came into Philadelphia with a chance to clinch here. “As an ex-Phillie, I’d like nothing more than that,” Manager Davey Johnson said. Now, though, the potential payback for the Phillies clinching three of their five division titles with victories over the Nationals is impossible.
Mixxo
September 25th, 2012
11:16 pm
cabravesfan -
Ahhh……I see. Blog hit a speed bump I ’spose.
Regardless….what an exciting win! I’m still jacked.
Venice Jim
September 25th, 2012
11:16 pm
Nothing like an in play, run(s) scored to get the blood flowing…
Here Comes Honey Boo Boo
September 25th, 2012
11:16 pm
sportscenter givin the braves some luv……..
Carroll Rogers
September 25th, 2012
11:17 pm
quotes are up!
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/09/25/braves-postgame-quotes-after-clinching-wild-card-berth/
Here Comes Honey Boo Boo
September 25th, 2012
11:18 pm
Davey Johnson has never been shy on words………..
Here Comes Honey Boo Boo
September 25th, 2012
11:21 pm
mlb tonight has been on 15 mins and no mention of the braves……..
Sopheee
September 25th, 2012
11:21 pm
I don’t wanna go to sleep.
Puma
September 25th, 2012
11:21 pm
I haven’t followed Davey Johnson much, but he always seems a little bit like a jerk in his comments, but maybe he is just one of those blunt people. Can’t argue with his body of work though, not just this season.
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
11:22 pm
Bravefaninok
September 25th, 2012
10:45 pm
Chop Chop
September 25th, 2012
9:57 pm
Davey Johnson will be NL Manager of the Year.
Even after the Braves win the division???
The Nationals have far exceeded any and all expectations even if we somehow won the division.
The Braves have done about as well as was expected. No better, no worse.
N8
September 25th, 2012
11:23 pm
I gotta give credit where it’s due. A month ago I thought this had he making of Choke 2.0. I thought Fredi would find a way to mess it up.
He did the right things or has done the right things in September. He’s managed to learn from his bullpen overuse last year, and Kimbrel and O’Flaherty are healthy, fresh and rolling heading into October.
Fredi is still not the guy I would have chosen for the job. But since they made the dance, he deserves one more year and maybe he’ll be a guy that grows on me or doesn’t irritate me so much.
And what can you say about Medlen? Team just wins when he pitches. It’s that simple. It SUCKS if they get stuck in this wildcard playin game (still an outside shot in hell at the division – ask the Cards last year abou the wildcard….) But I’m not counting on it.
But man would it be nice to have Medlen pitch in 2 games of a 5 game series and possibly 3 times in a 7 game series, huh? But this just could be the year with the stupid ass rule that the “away” team starts at home…..
who knows? They’re “in” now. That is all that matters. Let the crap shoot begin……. Stranger things have happened.
Mixxo
September 25th, 2012
11:25 pm
Thanks for the quotes Carroll!
Some classics in there.
John in Wichita
September 25th, 2012
11:27 pm
Why is Freeman one of my favorite players? Post game quote: “That was the coolest thing, ever.” Great kid. Thrilled he got to have that moment.
Mixxo
September 25th, 2012
11:29 pm
Braves are up on MLB Tonight after the break.
Mitchell
September 25th, 2012
11:33 pm
That game had me in the worst mood.
Just felt like the Twilight Zone for eight innings.
The best feeling was knowing we weren’t going to lose as the ball left Freddie’s bat.
And then, “Okay, we’re tied at the least.”
And then, “That ball is gone.”
Amazing turn of events for Freddie Freeman.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
11:35 pm
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
greinke K’s 4 in 4th. has 11 thru 4, via @MikeDiGiovanna. greinke’s lived up to billing in anaheim/LA
Mixxo
September 25th, 2012
11:36 pm
The guys are getting some major love on MLB TN.
Venice Jim
September 25th, 2012
11:38 pm
That game had me in the worst mood
Yes, because if the Braves had lost the season would have been irreparably changed – well put…excellent job of perspectivity…
Venice Jim
September 25th, 2012
11:38 pm
Tyler Kepner @TylerKepner
Fun with near-meaningless numbers: Phil Hughes (16-13) leads all MLB pitchers in decisions.
Powder Blue
September 25th, 2012
11:40 pm
Dale Murphy will always be my favorite player, but I’ve gotten very sentimental over every big moment this season because of Chipper. I don’t know what the playoffs hold, but win or lose I hope to enjoy every remaining moment we have to watch #10 ply his trade. I’ll miss him.
Sopheee
September 25th, 2012
11:43 pm
Seeing that video from Freddie grounding into the season-ending DP last year…man, what a difference a year makes.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 25th, 2012
11:44 pm
Greinke’s pitching like Tommy Hanson tonight. Lots of K’s meaning lots of pitches. He’ll probably be done after 5. Currently at 4.2 IP, 12 Ks. 101 pitches. Only 1 BB though.
Take care y’all, peace.
kenhotlanta
September 25th, 2012
11:55 pm
We got to see Chipper his entire career here because that is how he wanted it. All of our other heroes through the years (Aaron, Murphy, Niekro, Glavine, Smoltz) got traded and we didn’t get to see them go out on their own like Chipper. In my mind, Chipper has given this franchise as much as he took from them, and that’s a rare thing.
SNEAKY PETE
September 25th, 2012
11:58 pm
We have lost some good posters to banishment or leaving on their own because of the situation…Lane
what a load of crap, the only poster who is banished id PL and even a meat head like you can’t think he was a good poster. As for veterans leaving, yes we have lost dozens of intelligent knowledgeable poster but they sure in hell aren’t the total emotional freaks that you mean.
There was once a lot of people who actually understood the game here, now it is full of emotional basket cases who freak out over every miscue and folks like you who post under different names and try their best to irritate others
Venice Jim
September 25th, 2012
11:58 pm
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
greinke has matched david price’s 13 K’s … in 5 innings!
Not exactly driving the price down, much to your chagrin…
SNEAKY PETE
September 26th, 2012
12:03 am
I would say he has given way more ken
The A Bomb
September 26th, 2012
12:06 am
Good point Ken — Only Atlanta sports figure I can remember getting some accolades was Tommy Nobis, but it’s not even close.
Chipper might be Atlanta’s all-time great athlete.
David O'Brien
September 26th, 2012
12:07 am
Sneaky Pete: Good points.
Venice Jim
September 26th, 2012
12:10 am
ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
Freeman is 4th player with 1st career walkoff HR clinching a postseason berth (Alfonso Soriano, ‘99; Hank Aaron, ‘57, Thomson, ‘51)
chipontheroad
September 26th, 2012
12:13 am
far out come home from work get on the blog see the awesomeness unfold turn on mlbn and they show clubhouse great feeling trumps 2011 and nats lose …
Venice Jim
September 26th, 2012
12:23 am
I hate to mention the other “realistic” bloggers we seldom see – Tom O’Hawke, and, recently, even McFann…
kenhotlanta
September 26th, 2012
12:23 am
The A Bomb: I agree on Chipper. Deon might have made it if he had spent his whole career here playing 2 sports, but again, not close to what Chipper has meant to this franchise and this city.
Venice Jim
September 26th, 2012
12:28 am
Harold Baines with major love for Freddie’s 11 pitch at=bat in the 4th…
Venice Jim
September 26th, 2012
12:28 am
“at-bat”
McFann's date
September 26th, 2012
12:29 am
She said she’s tired of y’all and your BMac hate.
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
12:30 am
Uhh…..that would be Harold Reynolds there Chief.
Venice Jim
September 26th, 2012
12:31 am
Mixxo – thank you – I am indeed a moron…
Venice Jim
September 26th, 2012
12:33 am
Should not be messing up someone who actually picked the Braves before the season…
I should have gone to bed five minutes ago before i had the chance to do that…
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
12:34 am
No prob – I’ma call it an evening – later good folks.
Venice Jim
September 26th, 2012
12:36 am
Same for me – time to try and make the good people of DC sweat some more tomorrow…
Half Empty
September 26th, 2012
12:46 am
I think tomorrow will be long odds, not just because of the starters but because games like tonights can be draining.
Half Empty
September 26th, 2012
12:50 am
I agree Pete, I was hoping with the changes that they would introduce an ignore button.
People like Lane would be my first additions.
I have yet to see a comment worth anything from him in the 10 days or so since he surfaced. Might be ACE, too embarrassed to return under his old name and trying to get the blog to believe that DOB banned him
Half Empty
September 26th, 2012
12:52 am
Great ending to the game tonight, and coming back out on the field to share it with the remaining fans was really cool.
I was watching the Marlins broadcast and they spent a good bit of time covering the celebration
kenhotlanta
September 26th, 2012
12:54 am
Half Empty: I try to scroll by the idjits until they learn to bring something coherent to the table.
Half Empty
September 26th, 2012
1:01 am
They will never learn IMO, and Lane is not as much an idiot as a troublemaker who twists things to suit his purposes, and I doubt he will ever change.
kenhotlanta
September 26th, 2012
1:08 am
Most of them just like to stir the pot and cause trouble. It’s been a great night, but it’s bedtime down south.
Half Empty
September 26th, 2012
1:21 am
probably because nobody will put up them in their actual lives
night ken
GTI in Brooklyn
September 26th, 2012
1:27 am
Magic # / Division Title (yes, that’s right!) Update:
We’ve secured a playoff spot in the WC game. WooHoo!
The M# for the Braves to secure home field for that game = 3
St.Louis’ M# (over both LA & MIL) to secure the 2nd WC slot = 4
Nats M# to win the division is still = 5
SO, what about the NL East Division Title?
Both the Braves & Nats have 8 games remaining.
If the Nats go 5-3 in those games, they win.
Braves 8-0 + Nats 4-4 = 1-Game playoff for the title on the 4th.
Braves go 8-0 + Nats go 3-5 = Braves win title.
The Braves play all 8 games against losing teams who are out of the playoffs. Only 2 formidable SPs are left to face, JOSH JOHNSON and, possibly, JON NIESE, a lefty who historically is tough on the Braves.
The Nats play all 8 games against the Phillies & Cardinals. And they still must face WAINWRIGHT, LOHSE, KENDRICK (x2?) and HALLADAY.
I think the Nats going 4-4 is not out of the realm of possibility. The Braves running the table might be a slightly taller order. We need the Cards to still be playing for something when they face the Nats this weekend. Once they clinch the 2nd WC, they’ll go into “rest our players” mode and ease off the gas a little. Ergo, it’s time for Braves fans to start rooting for the Brewers and Dodgers to go on a mini win streak to force the Cardinals to keep winning through the weekend.
IF we’re going to win the division, I think the most likely development is a 1-Game playoff with the Nats on the 4th. It must be said, this COULD wind up shooting the Braves in the foot. Say we lose a tie-breaker to the Nats in Washington on Thursday. Then we have to play the WC play-in back in Atlanta on the 5th. If we win that game, we’d then start the division series against the Nats (again) or the Reds on Sunday the 6th, AND we’d have used our two best pitchers (MEDLEN & HUDSON) just to get through the 2 elimination games. It’d be nice to win the division, but maybe ONLY if we can do it in 162 games, and that looks kind of tough.
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
1:28 am
“because nobody will put up them in their actual lives”
Whoa, whoa. Back the social skills truck up. You’re hittin’ a little too close to home…
Frank from KS (now in CO)
September 26th, 2012
1:29 am
Oh, thanks for the love VJ @ 12:23 a.m. (insert sarcasm)
Half Empty
September 26th, 2012
1:36 am
I don’t know BAS, I wouldn’t let somebody that toxic get anywhere near me in my life, but perhaps I am being too harsh..
Anyway too great of a night to dwell on it any more. Hoorah for the Braves.
Even if they get run out of town in the one game playoff, I think it has been a great year with many great stories and my disappointment will be short lived.
Waffle House or Bust
September 26th, 2012
1:37 am
Tonight’s game is up there with the Sid slide to me. I love whenever I get chills watching baseball.
Waffle House or Bust
September 26th, 2012
1:38 am
Nice to see no BELIEVE losers posting tonight. Please stay away from that bad karma stuff. Thanks.
Half Empty
September 26th, 2012
1:39 am
its a loser to believe?
Anders
September 26th, 2012
2:09 am
What’s up Braves fans? I had get on here and throw a shout out of congratulations to your boys for sealing the deal tonight. Very cool way to do it too. Watched it in Mother Hubbards Sports Bar in Chicago. The guy next to me happened to be a Braves fan. What are the odds? It was actually nice to watch him enjoy it. He was a huge Chipper fan. Not that he’s alone there. So you guys can exhale for a week or so now.
Frank from KS (now in CO)
September 26th, 2012
2:15 am
Hey Anders….long time, no see.
I’d like to see them win it all, for Chip since this is his last year, BUT I also know, they couldn’t get it done for Bobby Cox, in his last year….so time will tell, I guess.
Anders
September 26th, 2012
2:21 am
Hey Frank – I’ve been in and out of here these days. Not this late normally.
As for the Braves winning it all, I can’t lie to you and say that’s what I’m pulling for. Just being honest.
Anders
September 26th, 2012
2:24 am
You guys did clinch a playoff spot tonight after a historic collapse last year – right? Where is everyone?
The Blogger Formerly Known as Billy
September 26th, 2012
2:24 am
Hard to get overly excited but cant help feel the charm of a post season birth for the Braves. I remember when this time of the year when the season really started for the Braves and anything less than a world series appearance was a bust. When you miss something is when you really appreciate it.
What is bitter sweet about this deal is Chippers last post-season but if you look at the nucleus of the club, its built to contend for the long term….even so if Delgado or Tehran develop.
I think I’d cry if the Braves made it to the WS……no telling what I’d do if they win it.
Side note: For those who want to make the blog better……stop responding to trolls.
Ward
September 26th, 2012
2:25 am
Hello everyone! Whagt a win, and way to bounce back. Been watching the highlights….. I was one who thought Braves might finish 3rd, but when wren made the trade for Maholm, and Medlen starting pitching fantastic. I started to change my mind. Great win, and happy for the Braves. Not going to comment on any thing further, but will be happy for the playoff berth. Will hang around for a few post.
Frank from KS (now in CO)
September 26th, 2012
2:26 am
Anders – well, like N8 said earlier in this blog, I can’t say I’m fond of Fredi as the manager, but even as N8 said, I think he learned a lot from the collaspe and his overuse of the pen…namely EOF, Venters, and Kimbrel last season.
Ward
September 26th, 2012
2:26 am
What a way to end the game with a walk off…… I’m excited, and would love me some pay back against the Cards.
Anders
September 26th, 2012
2:28 am
Side note: For those who want to be taken as serious baseball fans… never use the word charm as the feeling you expect when making the playoffs.
Ward
September 26th, 2012
2:28 am
I’ll have to admit that I wasn’t quit sure about Fredi, but he has done a good job, and I’ll have to give Wren credit too. He put the right players together.
Anders
September 26th, 2012
2:29 am
Oh Ward.
Frank from KS (now in CO)
September 26th, 2012
2:30 am
LOL…Anders @ 2:28
Half Empty
September 26th, 2012
2:36 am
Former Cy Young closer Eric Gagne alleges in his new biography that 80 percent of his Los Angeles Dodgers teammates were using performance-enhancing drugs.
Gagne, who set a major league record while converting 84 consecutive save chances, admits that he used human growth hormone over five cycles in a three-year period toward the end of his career.
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
2:36 am
Anders,
Suck it. (You know, for old times’ sake.)
Ward
September 26th, 2012
2:46 am
I believe in the Braves, and will ride it out. It’s been a fun year!
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
2:49 am
“human growth hormone”
Is that the same HGH for which they’re still not testing?
Ward
September 26th, 2012
2:49 am
Waffle, people will just stay away from your bad waffles……Believing is better than being you, and reading your post, or what ever….If it makes any sense?
John Leonard
September 26th, 2012
3:18 am
To me nothing will beat THE SLIDE.Run sid run.
Ward
September 26th, 2012
3:32 am
I remember that slid by Sid Bream, and Braves win! Braves win! The look on Bonds face told it all. That was one I’ll always remember.
Ward
September 26th, 2012
3:42 am
Francsico Cabrera drove in Sid Bream on that day in Atlanta Braves History, and Atlanta gave Cabrera the Key to the City. All have a good one! Talk tomorrow…….Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
Disgusted
September 26th, 2012
5:07 am
Chipper deserves to be the most beloved athlete in ATL sports history.
Matty Ryan has the potential to be in the Chipper category if he wins a SB or two.
A very good night for ATL baseball & if they go on a good post season run its a geat year.
Couch Tater
September 26th, 2012
5:28 am
Great win! Saving my bubbly for the NL pennant.
Win the NL East first.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
6:01 am
Angels To Pursue Greinke, Decline Haren/Santana
By Mark Polishuk [September 25, 2012 at 11:43pm CST]
The Angels’ “preference” is to decline their club options on Dan Haren and Ervin Santana in order to pursue a long-term extension with Zack Greinke, a source tells MLB.com’s Alden Gonzalez. The team would only look to bring back Haren or Santana if Greinke signed elsewhere, Gonzalez believes.
Haren ($15.5MM option, $3.5MM buyout) and Santana ($13MM option, $1MM buyout) both went from being likely pickup candidates to possibly expendable after their disappointing 2012 campaigns. Both men have shown better recent form, however, which could be a sign that their struggles were temporary — Haren has a 2.45 ERA over his last six starts, Santana a 2.49 ERA over his last seven.
If the Angels did decline their options, Haren and Santana would become two of the most sought-after arms on the market this winter. Haren just turned 32 but has been one of the game’s better pitchers for the last several years, while Santana was very good in 2010-11, has thrown at least 175 innings in four of the last five years and may still be somewhat of a breakout candidate going into his age-30 season.
The Angels have Jered Weaver, C.J. Wilson and presumably Garrett Richards (who will have to replace someone) in place for next year’s starting rotation. If Greinke is re-signed, that would leave the fifth starter’s job open to such current in-house options as Barry Enright or Jerome Williams, though the Halos could also pursue add veteran depth this winter.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
6:07 am
I really really hope that the Angels don’t do that. Maybe a WS title will help our cause. Heck, maybe the fact that we made the playoffs and the Angels likely won’t helps. At worst, there will be 2 sought after pitchers on the market. I’d rather have Haren. Santana is a bit inconsistent.
Couch Tater
September 26th, 2012
6:51 am
He’s managed to learn from his bullpen overuse last year
2011 – Extra inning games (26). Extra inning games 1st half (18). 1 run games (55)
2012 – Extra inning games (11). Extra inning games 1st half (4). 1 run games (36)
Maybe, he learned not to have extra innings. Particularly, in the 1st half.
jeffrey d
September 26th, 2012
7:20 am
Who won the match last night?
old man
September 26th, 2012
7:27 am
Here is our schedule:
Miami
Miami
NYM
NYM
NYM
@Pitt
@Pitt
@Pitt
Here are the Nats:
@Phi
@Phi
@StL
@StL
@StL
Phi
Phi
Phi
If we sweep the Marlins and Philly sweeps the Nats, there will be some very serious pucker factor going on in DC. Possible? Well, their collapse would be nothing compared to us last year.
At a minimum, if we keep pressure on them, they won’t be able to rest people.
old man
September 26th, 2012
7:29 am
Too bad the Brewers are not on St. Louis’ tail. That would make the Nats next series much tougher.
Couch Tater
September 26th, 2012
7:33 am
By Mark Polishuk
Beatwriter? Writerbeater? Tweeterreader? Meter Reader?
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
7:35 am
Just a writer, I assume. Seems like most MLBTR posts are based off of other sources. In this case, it was Alden Gonzales of MLB.com
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
7:36 am
What a fun night! Obviously, we all know the Braves clinched a playoff spot with their win. And they moved a little closer to Washington. Still a long ways to go for that, and it’s still a long shot.
The next item on the agenda is clinching the #1 wild card spot, and home field in the wild card playoff game. I’ve seen multiple people, including media members, say the magic number to clinch that is 3. That is incorrect. The Braves only need to clinch a tie with St. Louis, since they hold the head-to-head tiebreaker. The magic number is 2.
Here are the updated magic numbers from around baseball.
NL East – Washington – 5
NL Central – Cincinnati – clinched
NL West – San Francisco – clinched
NL Playoffs (relative to Milwaukee/Los Angeles)
Washington – clinched
Cincinnati – clinched
San Francisco – clinched
Atlanta – clinched
St. Louis – 4
NL #1 seed – Washington – 8 (hold tiebreaker with Cincinnati)
NL #1 wild card – Atlanta – 2
AL East – New York – 7
AL Central – Chicago/Detroit – 9
AL West – Texas – 5
AL Playoffs (relative to Los Angeles)
Texas – 3
New York – 5
Baltimore – 6
Oakland – 7
Chicago/Detroit – 9 (for division)
AL #1 seed – Texas – 7 (relative to New York)
AL #1 wild card – Baltimore – 8 (relative to Oakland)
The only clinching that can happen today is, once again, for the Braves. With a win and a Cardinals loss, they will have clinched the #1 wild card playoff berth, and home field for the playoff game.
jeffrey d
September 26th, 2012
7:38 am
Writerbeater?
They have those?
jeffrey d
September 26th, 2012
7:39 am
What happens if the Braves and Nats end the season tied for 1st place? Would they have a playoff game? Or would it go to the head-to-head winner (Nats)?
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
7:40 am
Pittsburgh held on for one more day by beating the Mets last night. With a loss, or a Cardinals win, they will be eliminated from the postseason.
Here the updated elimination numbers from around the league
NL Playoffs (relative to St. Louis)
Pittsburgh – 1
Philadelphia – 3
Arizona – 3
Los Angeles – 4
Milwaukee – 4
AL Playoffs (relative to Oakland)
Tampa Bay – 6
Los Angeles – 7
Chicago/Detroit – 9 (for division)
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
7:40 am
What happens if the Braves and Nats end the season tied for 1st place? Would they have a playoff game? Or would it go to the head-to-head winner (Nats)?
They would play a 163rd game on Thursday, in Washington. The winner would go the NLDS. The loser would play the following day in the 1-game wild card playoff.
CB
September 26th, 2012
7:42 am
We have a couple of stalkers on here that might.
jeffrey d
September 26th, 2012
7:49 am
Hypothetically, I wonder who would start that game. Isn’t Medlen on pace to pitch the 5th?
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
7:51 am
Dave Schoenfeld wrote this morning that the people shouldn’t be concerned about the Nats’ slump.
I wonder what he’ll say if they slump themselves right out of first place?
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
7:52 am
jeffrey d, I’d think it would be Hudson. If they win, Medlen would start Game 1 of the NLDS. If they lose, Medlen would get the wild card game, and Mike Minor would probably get the Game 1 nod.
Kat
September 26th, 2012
7:52 am
Heading to the last two regular season games in Pitts next week. Hoping I have a chance to see us clinch the Division… fingers crossed, come on Phillies!
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
7:56 am
And Atlanta’s Magic Number to clinch the NL East: 13
12 to clinch the tie
We can take care of 8 of those ourselves. Would not be surprised to see us get 6 or 7 wins.
BravesFanInMaine
September 26th, 2012
8:00 am
great winby the braves….. hope they go on a tear and take the division
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
8:07 am
Wow, went back and perused the blog over the last 2-3 innings last night.
Some big time douche bags firing away.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
8:07 am
Mike Minor would probably get the Game 1 nod.
He should be getting that now anyway, even if we get in as the WC.
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
8:14 am
I know that there were some here last night who thought clinching a mere invite to the play-in game was no cause to celebrate. I might even agree with that. But the celebration last night wasn’t even about the wild card, or the playoffs, even. It was about exorcising the demon of last year, putting a bullet in the head of that Walking Dead, burning the corpse, and scattering the ashes.
The wheel of karma turned, it stopped on the slot marked “Freddie Freeman”, and the baseball gods changed the label to “Redemption”. Fans ought to be able to see the real reason for the celebration, is what I’m saying.
By the way, I called the walk-off before the 9th, almost to perfection. I’m actually glad Freeman hit it to CF instead of RF, like I thought he would. That’s the only thing that kept it from being just too spooky.
One down, four to go. Go Phightens!
Ray
September 26th, 2012
8:14 am
@UK some people just want to complain no matter what. I have said several times, if the Braves win the World Series in let’s say 7 games, they will be the first ones complaining that it took 7 games or that “its only their 2nd WS.” You really can’t fix stupid.
Veer
September 26th, 2012
8:19 am
We could be facing an interesting situation should we be close to the Nationals. Do you save Medlen and Hudson for the one game playoff or do you use Medlen and Hudson during the last few games of the season and settin them up aganist the Nationals?
Although very unlikely we catch the Nationals but it is still something to think about.
It could backfire if we fail to catch the Nationals or lose to them in the one game playoff.
I just wish we could have skipped Hanson and gone with a 4 men rotation.
If we are 3 games back with 7 to go then I don’t see any reason for Hanson to be starting
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
8:22 am
Veer, Hudson is scheduled to pitch Saturday, and Medlen on Sunday. They’re making those starts regardless of where the Braves are, I would think, at the very least to stay sharp. Minor, Hanson, and Maholm will start the three games in Pittsburgh.
So the answer to your question is that Medlen and Hudson wouldn’t be used in the last few days of the season anyway. And they will both be ready to pitch against Washington (Hudson) and the one-game playoff (Medlen).
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
8:22 am
Yes, I’m really glad that Freddie hit the walk-off. Would’ve been great to have Uggla on base, since you know, it was both of them that were involved in that heartbreaking DP last year, but it’s better for Freddie.
Let’s hope that this gets us on a hot streak. That’d be great news for the 1gm playoff.
Veer
September 26th, 2012
8:23 am
Just wish the Phillies had the big 3 going aganist the Nationals in all 6 games. Clloyd dude eventually might gift wrap the division title to the Nationals. We got to keep winning every game.
Johnson and Niese are two of our toughest opponents from here on out. Although with Hanson scheduled to start 2 games you just don’t know.
As I said in my earlier post if we are within 3 games by tomorrow then the bullpen should be warming up from the first inning.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
8:24 am
Haven’t seen Delgado or Teheran all month long. Wonder if maybe Fredi will let them start one of the last 2 games, maybe Tommy’s.
flange1
September 26th, 2012
8:24 am
What a great game last night!
Tons of fun.
Very happy for our 2012 Braves team. Hope they can keep it going and go deep in the playoffs.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
8:25 am
I know that there were some here last night who thought clinching a mere invite to the play-in game was no cause to celebrate. I might even agree with that. But the celebration last night wasn’t even about the wild card, or the playoffs, even. It was about exorcising the demon of last year, putting a bullet in the head of that Walking Dead, burning the corpse, and scattering the ashes.
For me, it was both making the post season and burying 2011.
Congrats to Wren, team execs, Fredi and the Braves. The Red Sox had a comparable collapse last season and look how poorly that franchise handled it. Nothing of the sort from the Braves.
There’s still an outside chance for the Braves to take the division, and they haven’t locked up home field advantage for the WC. The Braves need to continue to hit the peddle and go all out in the remaining games – or until matters are decided.
Kelly
September 26th, 2012
8:25 am
I’ve read the blog for years (from way back in the good old days when the blog was so full of fun, good baseball insight and toes were frequently and hilariously discussed) but never posted before, but I had to just say to ncscoots- EXACTLY. That was perfectly stated!
I heard one of the Nats announcers say last night that the fact that the Braves were celebrating told him that they didn’t believe they could win the division. I thought “no way- this is about celebrating redemption after last year.” I’m sure the Red Sox wish they could do the same.
Lew
September 26th, 2012
8:26 am
Never saw so many people unhappy and seemingly bummed after a game that should have done nothing but bring them joy. I guess it must have to do with shrt circuits to the brain’s pleasure centers. Maybe electroshock therapy would help?
Veer
September 26th, 2012
8:27 am
I just wish Minor was pitching on a 3 days rest on Thursday instead of Hanson. Minor starts Thursday and then Tuesday. I just have a gut feeling that we will miss the division by 1 game and that crucial loss will come at the hands of Tommy Hanson. Fredi has made some good moves lately I just wish some how he skips Hanson.
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
8:29 am
Veer, if you don’t want Hanson to start, it would make much more sense to start Delgado than to put everyone on 3 days rest the week before the postseason!
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
8:31 am
Lew, really?
Didn’t read the overnights. Trying to clean up my diet. Too much junk isn’t good for the system.
But it would figure.
Lew
September 26th, 2012
8:32 am
Jeff R – Really.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
8:35 am
Lew, oh, well. To hell with them!
Ryan
September 26th, 2012
8:36 am
Tuned in to hear winning call on 680 this morning at 6:25 am. Not one mention of the word ‘Braves’ by 6:45 am and gave up. Came here to see what DOB may have, thoughts on celebration. DOB is off, of course. Blog titled “Braves could clinch to start Chipper’s last homestand.” Am I seriously the only constantly disappointed by local media? Maybe I am.
flange1
September 26th, 2012
8:37 am
Jeff R,
You might go back and read Mitchell’s comments after in the 8th inning and forward.
When the Braves win, he almost gets mad that he can’t complain about something.
So he does what he does best and complains some more!
flange1
September 26th, 2012
8:39 am
Ryan,
We almost NEVER have a new blog AFTER a game.
Maybe once or twice in the 7+ years I have been here, but that is just not how it works.
CR gave you a game story and game quotes.
More stuff will get posted today.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
8:40 am
flange1, for some people, glum and griping is coded into their DNA.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
8:47 am
Keep the petal to the metal tonight BRAVOS. We’re 7-0 toward that 12-0 sweep of the FISH and METS. Seal the deal.
Let’s have a MAHOLM resurrection for five shutout innings, and an effective C-MART sighting for three while getting into cruz’-control on the home stand.
We COULD come out the other end with a tie or only one back for the pennant between the NATS and ur’ us.
Go deep tonight CHIPPER. Go get ‘un guys. This thing is there for the taking. DOGGIE II has shown us the way.
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
8:47 am
I heard one of the Nats announcers say last night that the fact that the Braves were celebrating told him that they didn’t believe they could win the division.
Whistling past the graveyard. Nats are 4-7 in their last 11 and have lost 4.5 games of their lead in that span. The players might not be nervous, but I’d bet that there are plenty who are.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
8:49 am
Me, I’m excited by the one-game elimination match for the wild card. And I know I’m in a small minority here on the blog (perhaps a minority of one).
That game between the Braves and Cards (likely) will be packed with adrenalin and, possibly, a lot of drama. Should be fun.
TennesseePaul
September 26th, 2012
8:50 am
Perfection. That was last night. Medlen’s streak remains alive. Chipper is assured bookend post-season appearances for his Hall of Fame career. Freddie Freeman gets his first walk off HR to make it all happen.
Congratulations Braves.
Congratulations Chipper!
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
8:50 am
Well, I’ve seen that the Braves should keep pressing the “peddle” and the “petal”. We’re getting there.
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
8:52 am
Well, I’ve seen that the Braves should keep pressing the “peddle” and the “petal”. We’re getting there
Hey, they have 50 feet among ‘em, we can get 47 more versions of “pedal”, if we have to.
Long as we got a foot left to stomp on each of those sumbees.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
8:53 am
Whistling past the graveyard. Nats are 4-7 in their last 11 and have lost 4.5 games of their lead in that span. The players might not be nervous, but I’d bet that there are plenty who are.
Wouldn’t it be beautiful if the Nats choked? Then DC fans would have the Redskins. The Skins don’t choke; they just stink.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
8:55 am
The Ghost and I are just, just… creative spellers.
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
8:56 am
Wouldn’t it be beautiful if the Nats choked?
8.5 on September 12 into a mushroom cloud? I believe “epic” would be inadequate. Living members of the ‘64 Phillies would probably them dinner.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
8:56 am
Me, I’m excited by the one-game elimination match for the wild card. And I know I’m in a small minority here on the blog (perhaps a minority of one).
I don’t like the format, but I’m quite excited about it as well. That’s gonna be 1 helluva of a game. Minority of 2!
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
8:57 am
HANSON might redeem himself, but I doubt it……only because HE does. He’s got the goods, but his head is in the way.
If you’re reading TOM, the operative word here is ‘you.’ If ‘you’ think you can be outstanding, ‘you’ will. No need blaming ML baseball and it’s system for the way you’ve been treated, your coaches, your childhood, your mother.
It’s all ‘YOU.’ That’s the only thing standing in your way to success.
TennesseePaul
September 26th, 2012
8:58 am
Whistling past the graveyard. Nats are 4-7 in their last 11 and have lost 4.5 games of their lead in that span. The players might not be nervous, but I’d bet that there are plenty who are.
Didn’t the Nats celebrate when they clinched a play-off berth?
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
9:01 am
Didn’t the Nats celebrate when they clinched a play-off berth?
Basically, a champagne toast, that’s all. No hoo-rah, dousing, or that sort of thing.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
9:05 am
Didn’t the Nats celebrate when they clinched a play-off berth?
Basically, a champagne toast, that’s all. No hoo-rah, dousing, or that sort of thing.
Maybe they know they’re doomed.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
9:06 am
I don’t like the format, but I’m quite excited about it as well. That’s gonna be 1 helluva of a game. Minority of 2!
Agreed. For the record, ain’t for the format, either.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
9:07 am
NATS weren’t excising the demon of 2011 as it was so eloquently put earlier this morning.
The combo of champagne toast plus the giddiness of excision were warrented in this case.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
9:10 am
Great win last night. I’m not gonna lie, I almost felt like it was going to happen in some way. Just sorta felt like we weren’t going to lose that game. Happy for all of the Braves players, especially after what happened last year. Did feel weird to celebrate off winning, ya know, 2nd place – but after last year, I’m sure the guys are happy. Let’s just make sure we clinch home field for the coin flip game. Any advantage we can get.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
9:10 am
Jeff R – master of nuanced written communication.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 26th, 2012
9:12 am
98.6…..maintain
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
9:13 am
Oh yeah, I forgot…
Zack Greinke’s last 7 starts with the Angels when his team desperately needed him to perform: 50 IP, 36 hits, 9 ER, 11 BB’s, 47 K’s, 1.62 ERA, .200/.244/.322 oppo.
Hillbilly
September 26th, 2012
9:14 am
Well, I’ve seen that the Braves should keep pressing the “peddle” and the “petal”. We’re getting there.
I say they should just hold their foot on the accelerator and keep the flowers and traveling salesmanship out of the dugout.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
9:15 am
http://aldengonzalez.mlblogs.com/2012/09/25/question-of-the-day-925/
The Angels’ preference, I’m told, is still to resign Greinke. A source familiar with the team’s thinking told me recently that he expects the Angels to cut ties with both Santana and Haren this offseason and focus their efforts on signing him to a multi-year extension. So, I expect the Angels to decline their team options on Santana ($13 million) and Haren ($15.5 million) during the exclusive negotiating window and go hard after Greinke (six years, $125 million is the price tag many have associated with him). But if they can’t resign him, perhaps then — and only then, in my mind — they try to bring back Haren and/or Santana.
I’d say that’s about right. Six years, 126 million – 21 million AAV.
TennesseePaul
September 26th, 2012
9:15 am
Can’t believe the Pirates are going to finish under .500 again. Really thought this year they’d have a winning mark. They need to get there before Monday or they’re doomed.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
9:16 am
He’s been great. Their ‘pen and offense haven’t. Dunno if you saw Efrim, but there’s a story above which states that if the Angels re-sign Greinke, they’re likely to let Haren and Santana go.
TennesseePaul
September 26th, 2012
9:17 am
Zack Greinke’s last 7 starts with the Angels
totally cracking under pressure.
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
9:18 am
Also excited about the one game play-off. I’ve never attended a play-off game but have tickets to this one.
the last play-off game I had tickets to: Game 5 of the 2005 NLDS. Yikes!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
9:19 am
Guess you did! His price isn’t getting any cheaper, unfortunately. It’ll probably take 17-18mil to get him to ATL, and even then he might be taking a pay cut from what he might make elsewhere. I just hope we don’t overpay for Shields. Don’t get Santana. Haren might be okay, but he is 32…
tiger297
September 26th, 2012
9:19 am
here is hoping nolie got to watch the game last night…
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
9:22 am
15-6 in their last 21 games. Playing good ball down the stretch as a team, although I’d still like to see our hitters get going – mainly Bourn and Heyward.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
9:23 am
Can’t believe the Pirates are going to finish under .500 again. Really thought this year they’d have a winning mark. They need to get there before Monday or they’re doomed.
Certainly a letdown for Pirates’ fans. But I’m impressed with what the Pirates’ GM, Neal Huntington, has done in his short tenure to restock the farm system and improve the Pirates. The Pirates have some really good young arms in their system. Huntington needs to focus this winter on upgrading at a few of the positions (short, OF, for instance).
And I think Clint Hurdle is a capable manager.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
9:23 am
And despite his struggles right after his trade and Maholm’s great start with Atlanta, Greinke has performed the best of the 3 pitchers traded.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
9:25 am
I don’t think there is any chance Greinke signs with Atlanta. Especially after his strong performance with the Angels since being acquired by them. He’s going to get a six year deal for at least 20 million a year – and that’s going to be way too much for the Braves. He won’t be an option, at all, I think.
Philly Phanatic
September 26th, 2012
9:25 am
Did you ever think tou’d be bigger fans of the Phillies than their fan base? At this point the focus is on next year and whether this minor league phenom who actually hit more homers in the minors than Ryan Howard can look reasonably good under a lot of watchful eyes.
Aren’t you only 4 games out? We still play them 5 times and wouldn’t that put a pickle in what the baseball nation assumes is an NL East title? I think their time has come too fast and I’m not sure they will be playing with the same sureness that gave them a huge lead. Watch out, the Phil’s just may win you a NLEast title which would be 100 times better than that silly 1 game playoff. Hope you win the East as you deserve it with wins like last night. I turned to watch and as soon as I saw Chipper hit the double I’d have bet even money they win it in the 9th. Great win!
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
9:28 am
Philly Phanatic, I’m pulling for your boys to keep stompimg the Nats!
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
9:28 am
A source familiar with the team’s thinking told me recently that he expects the Angels to cut ties with both Santana and Haren this offseason and focus their efforts on signing him to a multi-year extension
I’ve always liked Santana, but he’s maddening in the way that he doesn’t pitch up to his stuff. Good years, bad years, just seems to never get over the hump to sustained performance.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
9:34 am
Yeah, I’d be much more interested in Dan Haren. Not sure what the market is going to be like for him, though.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
9:35 am
Is it fair for us to assume that Wren will have his sights set this winter on acquiring a front end free agent starting pitcher?
GTI in Brooklyn
September 26th, 2012
9:38 am
Sure it’s tough to accurately project pitching rotations 8 day in advance, but the Nats remaining mound opponents could look like this: KENDRICK, CLOYD, WAINWRIGHT, LOHSE, LYNN, KENDRICK, CLOYD, HALLADAY. It’d be nice if LEE & HAMMELS somehow found their way back onto that list, but it’s still a decent lineup of dudes to face.
The Bravos only have two imposing arms left: JOHNSON and NIESE, who’s been tough on the Braves, historically.
We need the Nats to lose at least 4 of their last 8 games to have a chance at the Division.
Trader Jack
September 26th, 2012
9:38 am
Jeff R
As crazy as it may seem, there are rumors that the Pirates may fire Huntington at the end of the season
Lew
September 26th, 2012
9:38 am
Jeff R – No.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
9:41 am
Trader Jack, didn’t know about the rumors. That would be incredibly dumb, letting Huntington go. Wonder if the Braves could use the guy? He’s largely been following the Braves’ model of building through pitching.
Hillbilly
September 26th, 2012
9:41 am
As crazy as it may seem, there are rumors that the Pirates may fire Huntington at the end of the season
I think that has more to do with his “Full Metal Jacket” training program doesn’t it? Seriously what was he thinking there?
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
9:45 am
Well, if that’s the case, the Pirates’ brass should just say, “Neal, let’s bag the training program. But carry on with improving the farm system and the major league club.”
GTI in Brooklyn
September 26th, 2012
9:48 am
Scenarios for the Bravos to win a Division crown are actually a little tricky.
If the Braves go 8-0 and the Nats go 4-4 win finish 162 with a tie. That would mean a 1-game playoff on the 4th in D.C. for the title. The loser would then return home to play the WC play in game the following day, the 5th. The WC game winner would then host the 1st game of the NLDS on Sunday the 6th.
I still want the Braves to go for and win the Division, but this possible scenario could be tough on our rotational lineups. Plus, without a day off for 12+ days in a row, we’d have to work with our full 5-man rotation into the first round of the postseason.
MFin04
September 26th, 2012
9:49 am
“He’s going to get a six year deal for at least 20 million a year – and that’s going to be way too much for the Braves. He won’t be an option, at all, I think.”
Yep. Now hopefully Bourn’s price is coming down and we can get him at $12-13 milllion.
Ray
September 26th, 2012
9:50 am
The Pirates have a former Braves scout in charge of scouting, tyrone brooks. A few years ago he left Cleveland as their MLB scout to become the Pirates Dir of Ops and then became head of scouting. Never surprises me how many teams have a braves touch in their front office.
tiger297
September 26th, 2012
9:53 am
my friends who are pirates fans are excited about the depth of the slide…if they aren’t making the playoffs they would prefer to keep the streak alive
Ray
September 26th, 2012
9:53 am
Did anyone see or hear Greinke’s performance last night. Unreal–13 k’s in 5 innings.
GTI in Brooklyn
September 26th, 2012
9:55 am
GREINKE also threw 110 pitches in those 5 innings and had 4 Ks in the 4th inning.
MEB
September 26th, 2012
9:56 am
Some cool and funny stuff this morning. Really have enjoyed this blog over the years with some really insightful reporting by DOB. Congratulations to Frank, Fredi, and all the Braves! I will be there Friday for Chipper’s tribute. Can’t wait!
GO BRAVES!!!
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
10:00 am
Ray, that does impress me. The Braves’ influence is everywhere. Schuerholz created the template back in the 90s.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
10:01 am
Yep. Now hopefully Bourn’s price is coming down and we can get him at $12-13 milllion.
Not sure Wren will spend even that on Bourn. Could be wrong, though.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
10:03 am
tiger297, I know a few Pirates’ fans. Can’t say they’re thrilled with going underwater again.
If the brass retains Huntington and sticks to his plan, I do think the Pirates will turn it around, sooner rather than later.
Enquiring Minds Want To Know
September 26th, 2012
10:09 am
All the talk about signing an expensive free-agent pitcher makes no sense to me. Our pitching staff is very good, and could potentially be better if Beachy returns to form in the second half next year. I think all available dollars should be directed to re-signing (or replacing) Bourn in CF, and finding a power-hitting right handed LF. A reliable thumper needs to bat between Heyward and Freeman. Uggla ain’t that guy.
Ray
September 26th, 2012
10:09 am
With Boras being the agent for Bourn, I simply seeing him signing with the Nats for 15-18m a year. Way too much. That is off-season stuff. Its time to put the target on the division, even though its a far target and know the Braves return to the post-season for Chipper’s final year.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
10:11 am
I might have to make the Angels my 2nd favorite team over the Rangers… There aren’t many top pitchers out there free that will be “easier” to get than Greinke… shame he might be out of our price range. Gotta hope that Graham, Beachy, and Medlen emerge for 2014. As it stands now, we’ll be “aceless”
Lew
September 26th, 2012
10:14 am
Enquiring MInds – Spot on. We have the fourth best record in MLB, the sixth best pitching staff overall (much higher than that since June), the third best relief corps, several minor league pitchers about ready for prime time and need to fill two outfield positions, extend several players and revamp the bench this winter.
Not sure where picking up another starter even comes into the offseason pitcture.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
10:15 am
That is off-season stuff. Its time to put the target on the division, even though its a far target and know the Braves return to the post-season for Chipper’s final year.
Two words: “Go Phillies.”
MFin04
September 26th, 2012
10:15 am
“GREINKE also threw 110 pitches in those 5 innings”
I’ll take Kris Medlen and his 92 pitches in 7 innings.
DAP
September 26th, 2012
10:15 am
efrim, do you like santana as a stater? i know you like Haren as an option, if he is out on the market. i do too, id even sign him to a multiyear deal. how about santana?
Ray
September 26th, 2012
10:17 am
Setting aside the biases against Fredi G, how many believe he deserves consideration for manager of the year?
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
10:18 am
Enquiring MInds – Spot on. We have the fourth best record in MLB, the sixth best pitching staff overall (much higher than that since June), the third best relief corps, several minor league pitchers about ready for prime time and need to fill two outfield positions, extend several players and revamp the bench this winter.
I second that motion. I would think from Wren’s perspective, the Braves have a wealth of pitching talent that is inexpensive and under control. Right now, I’d assume Wren will focus on beefing up the offense.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
10:19 am
Setting aside the biases against Fredi G, how many believe he deserves consideration for manager of the year?
I do, most definitely, though I think Davey Johnson has the inside track.
Ray
September 26th, 2012
10:20 am
Any pitcher is going to throw a lot of pitches in 5 innings when you strike out 13. Think about that for a second. That’s 13 out of 15 minimum batters A minimum of 39 pitches and that is if he struck out each batter on 3 pitches.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
10:21 am
Greinke’s outing last night was Hansonesque…. minus the walks, stolen bases, and multiple runs and HRs allowed of course
.
It broke his streak of 6 consecutive outing where he went at least 7 IP, and 8 straight where he pitched at least 6 innings.
MFin04
September 26th, 2012
10:22 am
I’m not sure how many people read ESPN the Magazine, but it had an interesting article on WARP and safe ranges of salaries to pay certain free agents.
Angel Pagan was in the 13-16 million range. And Bourn was like in 9-12 million I believe. So anyhow not sure how they concluded everything, but it had a fancy graph if anyone wants to explain it.
Murph
September 26th, 2012
10:22 am
Setting aside the biases against Fredi G, how many believe he deserves consideration for manager of the year?
Just having a winning season after last year’s debacle should get him a few votes… add in a trip to the playoffs and I think he’ll get some real consideration.
I’ve decided to really lower my game at work for the rest of 2012, then crank it up a notch in 2013 and go for my company’s “Most Improved Employee” award.
Hope, like Fredi, that I don’t get fired first.
Lew
September 26th, 2012
10:23 am
Jeff R – And Wren is not going to trade either O’Flaherty or Venters – like some seem to believe.
MFin04
September 26th, 2012
10:24 am
Whoever wins the NL East should get manager of the year for dethroning the Phillies and Marlins. It is that simple. Everyone picked those two teams to go 1-2 in the division. The fact that the Nationals and Braves have been soo dominant has got to make the two managers 1-2 in the race.
Murph
September 26th, 2012
10:24 am
Angel Pagan was in the 13-16 million range. And Bourn was like in 9-12 million I believe.
Interesting. I’m a big fan of Pagan and hope the Braves pursue him instead of Bourn… but I also thought he’d be considerably less $$$ than Bourn.
I hope his agent doesn’t get ESPN the magazine.
DAP
September 26th, 2012
10:25 am
jeff r If the brass retains Huntington and sticks to his plan, I do think the Pirates will turn it around, sooner rather than later.
its time to compliment the team with some veterans who can keep from hitting a wall with 50 games left, right? plenty of young talent there. id say, a few players who arent that young, and who have been through playoff runs might do them alot of good.
chipontheroad
September 26th, 2012
10:25 am
TOBF three deuces and two tre’s beat two aces of couse a bat goes along way towards collecting
Lew
September 26th, 2012
10:26 am
I’m not as anti Fredi as some here by any means, but MOY? Fraid not. Got to go to Davy Johnson. Fredi shouldn’t even be in the conversation.
Arkansas Transplant
September 26th, 2012
10:27 am
Sure is funny how Greinke is able to perform in high pressure situations… wasn’t he unable to do that?
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
10:27 am
DAP, Ervin isn’t what we need, imo. If we’re getting a starter, he needs to be a Greinke, or a Shields, or at the least, a Dan Haren. Need a frontline guy.
Win One For The Chipper
September 26th, 2012
10:27 am
October 4th – Atlanta at Washington for NL East Championship; Meds on the mound
Can’t wait!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
10:29 am
MFin04: Did it have an estimate on Greinke’s worth? Do say something like 12-14mil.
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
10:29 am
October 4th – Atlanta at Washington for NL East Championship; Meds on the mound
Medlen won’t pitch in that game on three days’ rest.
DAP
September 26th, 2012
10:30 am
i disagree with folks who think SP shouldnt be looked at by wren. its not something he MUST do…i mean he can fill out a rotation. but, even though the team is very good, theres always room to get a little better. if a really good starter can be gotten, i think wren should get him, and stabilize this rotation. i really like dan haren, and would offer him 3 years and $30million-ish. maybe mid 30s
Venice Jim
September 26th, 2012
10:31 am
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Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
10:32 am
Jeff R – And Wren is not going to trade either O’Flaherty or Venters – like some seem to believe.
I agree, Lew. Birds in hand are worth…
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
10:33 am
DAP, yes. I think Huntington will move to add some good veteran talent this winter – if he’s around.
David O'Brien
September 26th, 2012
10:34 am
Freeman’s blast. . . Medlen. . . The guys’ faces as they waited for Freeman to round the bases. . . all amazing, but the clip I absolutely can’t get enough of is Chipper’s 90 foot trot from third to home with his fist in the air. LOVE IT!!! — SpideyMatt
He had the look of sheer, unfiltered joy, didn’t he? Man, the look on his face, and on the guys’ faces at home plate as they waited for Freeman, was the stuff that makes sports so wonderful, and so unlike anything else.
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
10:35 am
Okay, so say we catch WAS and have to play there next Thursday.
Do you not consider throwing Maholm or Minor, and holding your Aces for Friday?
If we catch WAS and have to travel from Pitt to WAS, not only is it fortuitous to even be in the game, but the game itself is basically a crapshoot. In fact, both games are crapshoots.
But, since you’ve got a fallback game on Friday, why not take a chance that momentum will carry you (it’s not as if Minor and Maholm are bad), and then, just in case you don’t win @ WAS, you still can hand the ball to Medlen on Friday.
I think it’s taking the John Smoltz approach for Friday (which I don’t agree with) and applying it to Thursday (which I think makes a tad more sense).
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
10:35 am
Let me say it again: “Go Phillies.”
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
10:37 am
UKUGA, to do that, you would have to hold Maholm or Minor out of the Pittsburgh series. Do you do that while you’re trying to catch Washington? If the rotation holds as is, the only person that would be able to pitch the game is Hudson. Anyone else would require some more shuffling.
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
10:38 am
I’d vote for Fredi if they overtake the Nats. Otherwise, it goes to Johnson. He gets some add’l points for managing the Strasburg situation and still winning the division. But, if the Nats fold, then while Strasburg was a factor, he looses points for letting it impact the team down the stretch.
DAP
September 26th, 2012
10:40 am
UKGA Do you not consider throwing Maholm or Minor, and holding your Aces for Friday?
no, you try and win the division. pitch huddy if you can. pitch minor if you must. i think medlen should stay on track to pitch on the 5th, though.
TennesseePaul
September 26th, 2012
10:43 am
Not sure Wren will spend even that on Bourn. Could be wrong, though.
$12M for Bourn is too much for me… unless we’re talking 1 year Qual. But in a multi-year deal, no way I’d go that high for him. He’s a $9M a year guy for me in a long term deal.
Still though, some team could drop a massive deal on his lap. Just hope it isn’t the Braves paying $16+M a year for 6+ years. No reason to make him the highest paid Brave in franchise history.
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
10:43 am
Brian, I realize it’s a challenge. I might throw Delgado in Pitt for one game to hold Minor/Maholm for Thursday.
At the end of the day, assuming we win a couple of more games and clinch the play-in game at home, you always have game that as a fall back. It allows you to do something unorthodox if you get this unlikely chance at clinching the division.
I guess what’s tricky about it is that we set the rotation up assuming a Friday game. Now, if a Thursday game comes into play, it raises a whole new set of questions. But, since it would be so unexpected, I think you can take a slightly unorthodox approach.
That’s just me.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
10:44 am
And Wren is not going to trade either O’Flaherty or Venters – like some seem to believe.
I wouldn’t mind that… we’d likely have 3 lefties in the pen thoughn (Avilan has earned a spot in my opinion), and if Gearrin makes it, a roogy.
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
10:44 am
Let me correct myself. The Braves actually have shuffled a little bit…Hudson is scheduled to go Friday night. That means his regular rotation spot would be the last day of the season. He would only pitch then if the Braves needed to win that game for the division. This Saturday’s starter has not been announced…seems like it could be Minor, which would put him on schedule to pitch a hypothetical playoff with Washington.
So the Braves do have some options.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
10:47 am
He’s a $9M a year guy for me in a long term deal.
Co-sign!
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
10:49 am
Okay, I see the rotation now. Hudson would be set to go on Wednesday @ Pittsburgh.
If you somehow have a one game lead, you pitch Hudson and clinch the division.
If you are one game behind, you pitch Delgado (maybe) and save Hudson for the unlikely Thurday game.
If you are tied? IDK, I say pitch Delgado, pray for the best. You might win the division that day. You might lose and still play Thursday. Or, you might win and play Thursday.
I think I only pitch Hudson next Wednesday if I am in the lead. Otherwise, I save him for Thursday.
And, having a one game lead next Wednesday is probably the most unlikely of scenarios.
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
10:50 am
Brian, I was looking up and typing as you were typing.
Good thoughts and I agree.
(I’m mixed on what you do if you are tied next Wednesday).
ChattTownBrian
September 26th, 2012
10:51 am
Fredi shouldn’t be in the convo for MOY, Lew, I agree. This team is packed with talent and leaders anyways. Sorry, but he still has a screw up once a week. Improvement from last year for sure. He’s getting better and better.
Lew
September 26th, 2012
10:53 am
OnlyBraves – They’ve had three lefties in the pen for several years now.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
10:54 am
But in a multi-year deal, no way I’d go that high for him. He’s a $9M a year guy for me in a long term deal.
What a hater of defense and baserunning you are….
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
10:55 am
I think we might wait until the Braves are no more than three back before discussing possible rotation assignments for a tiebreaker. You guys are going to jinx it.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
10:56 am
Would love to go get RH reliever this winter. Someone to pitch high leverage innings not named Kimbrel. Don’t want to use Gearrin in that role next year. And as much as he’s pitched well since May 1st, I’ll pass on Durbin.
Lew
September 26th, 2012
10:57 am
CTB – The Braves SHOULD win – no doubt about it. Davy (who never was a favorite f kmine to begin with) has taken a team that was hardly a consensus division winner, with numerous injuries (Zimmerman, Morse, their closer, etc) and kept them in first throughout the season despite losing his best pitcher with a month left and the press inferno it set off for a couple of months prior to Strasburg’s shut down.
Sometimes you just have to admit that the other guy had a better year and deserves the award.
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
10:57 am
The Braves will get someone to fill the Durbin/Linebrink/Saito role.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
10:58 am
Still though, some team could drop a massive deal on his [Bourn's] lap. Just hope it isn’t the Braves paying $16+M a year for 6+ years. No reason to make him the highest paid Brave in franchise history.
Just don’t think Wren will tie up that much budget for Bourn. And aren’t the Phils and Nats still likely suitors for Bourn’s services? I can see either of these teams meeting Boras’ terms.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
10:59 am
Is anyone not in the least bit worried if we could get to that game against Washington?
We would have Minor go on normal rest who has been about as good as you can get in the 2nd half including beating Washington head to head against Gio…
They would more than likely be pitching Zimmerman as Detweiler wouldn’t go and unless they alter their rotation greatly, Gio is scheduled to pitch in their final series against Phily.
At this point guys, even getting to that game is cake, and I’d just about match Mike Minor up against anyone…..he has come a LONG way since earlier in the year….
And btw….GREAT celebration last night….couldn’t have been happier for all the guys
Lew
September 26th, 2012
11:00 am
Efrim -when I say they won’t focus on pitching I mean starting. I could see them signing a reliever and you’re right – MOylan ain’t the answer and it’s doubtful Gearrin is either – though I feel he’s better than many give him credit for.
Ray
September 26th, 2012
11:00 am
I do believe that Fredi G will get some votes. Will he win MOY, probably not. Consideration, absolutely. I get the comment dethrone the Phils–defending division champs. How are the Marlins being dethroned? They have been a non-factor for a few years. And they are what some of us thought they were, a constant train wreck. Maybe derailed but dethroned?
MFin04
September 26th, 2012
11:03 am
“October 4th – Atlanta at Washington for NL East Championship; Meds on the mound”
Now this adds interest to the debate. Do you start Medlens in the play-in game vs Washington, play-in game vs St Louis, or game 1 of the division series.
I’d think the least important of all of them would be the game at Washington.
TennesseePaul
September 26th, 2012
11:03 am
That SI image is classic.
The entire team celebrating the victory as it appears Chipper is walking away…
Arkansas Transplant
September 26th, 2012
11:04 am
I mentioned long ago I didn’t believe Bourn was worth more than 9 a year and quite a few on here completely jumped my case. I was never fully impressed with Bourn’s hitting abilities but he did bring needed speed and defense.
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
11:04 am
It’s interesting reading people say that the Braves SHOULD win. I fully agree, but after last year’s collapse, there were some in the media speculating that the “real” Braves were on display in September, and we would see more of that this year.
I never really bought it, mainly because:
A) Lowe is gone
B) Kimbrel is a year older
C) Heyward appeared to be fixing things down the stretch, and I though he would be better this year
D) A stretch, but I really though management would do a better job of keeping Chipper fresh for the stretch run
E) Freeman improvement
F) No staph infection setback for Prado
G) A full season of Bourn
H) Okay, so I’m wrong here, but I didn’t think McCann would get hurt again and play with an injury the last 2 months of the year
I) Wrong again, I didn’t think Uggla would stink all year
J) Wrong some more – Hanson or JJ should be healthy and bounce back – my vote was on JJ
Now, positives I didn’t predict:
A) Minor would be this good
B) Medlen would be this great
C) Even our crummy relievers would end up having solid years
There’s more, like Venters struggles, etc., but in general, I thought we would be better and that last year was an anomaly.
I’m glad the FO went for it this year and I hope they keep this thing rolling well into October.
Enquiring Minds Want To Know
September 26th, 2012
11:04 am
DAP, there’s no question that the staff could be improved through a FA signing, but you have to look at the cost-benefit analysis. To wit:
Barring a trade or signing, the starting rotation at the beginning of next year looks something like Hudson, Medlen, Minor, Maholm, Hanson (or Delgado). Lets say you sign Haren for 3 years/$36M. Who does he replace? Hanson, probably, which makes Maholm the 5th starter. No doubt Hudson, Haren, Medlen, Minor, Maholm is a stronger staff, but it costs the team $11M/year to make that improvement.
Sorry, but unless we get a raise, that $11M has got to go to the outfield.
TennesseePaul
September 26th, 2012
11:06 am
What a hater of defense and baserunning you are…
Yes. Total hatred.
Toss me into that dinosaur bin again. I don’t think you pay a guy $16+M a year for baserunning a defense. I’m of the believe you pay a guy that much because he’s a “five-tool” type guy. Bourn is missing the hitting tools to earn that much, at least in my eyes. I’m willing to give $9M to a guy who can play defense, which is more than those players used to make.
Lew
September 26th, 2012
11:06 am
UKUGA- Well, there are some idots in the journalism business as well as posting on the blog. Anyone who felt the “real” Braves were what we saw in Spetember 2011 were just wrong and some of us realized it all along.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
11:08 am
Fin-
Meds get the ball on Sunday….
He wouldn’t be in line to start a Game 163 as they would never pitch him on short rest….
Minor is the guy lined up to do it as he is scheduled to pitch Saturday….and that would be his next turn….
IF Braves have no shot at division, I don’t expect Huddy to go again after his start Friday so he will be available in relief for that 1 game playoff (if needed) or to pitch Game 1 of the NLDS with a win….
Minor is the far and away logical choice for the Game 163 unless something crazy happens and Huddy is available….that said, I like my chances w/ Minor better…..sure he hasnt pitched in this big of a game in his life, but given what Ive seen from him over the last 3 months, I am not worried about that.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
11:10 am
I mentioned long ago I didn’t believe Bourn was worth more than 9 a year and quite a few on here completely jumped my case. I was never fully impressed with Bourn’s hitting abilities but he did bring needed speed and defense.
I do like Bourn’s speed and defense, and when he’s clicking offensively and Prado is coming up second, it’s pretty darn good. And solid up-the-middle defense is critical.
I just don’t think Bourn’s worth a long-term deal and big bucks. And he’s not going to sign for less and at a shorter term, IMO.
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
11:10 am
The entire team celebrating the victory as it appears Chipper is walking away…
Photograph as metaphor.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
11:11 am
I mentioned long ago I didn’t believe Bourn was worth more than 9 a year and quite a few on here completely jumped my case.
I remember that. It happened to me too. I was then told that he brings so much and fills so many holes that we should give him at least 13mil. To offer him 9mil would be completely disrespectful.
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
11:11 am
“I think we might wait until the Braves are no more than three back before discussing possible rotation assignments for a tiebreaker. You guys are going to jinx it”
Yeah, lets just keep discussing what should happen in 2014 and beyond with this team before anything going on this year.
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
11:13 am
TP, you have a link?
Arkansas Transplant
September 26th, 2012
11:13 am
We need a front line starter this offseason.
next year looks something like Hudson, Medlen, Minor, Maholm, Hanson (or Delgado).
This doesn’t exactly scream consistency or confidence. Your truly most reliable starters right now are Medlen and Minor. Hudson has been unconsistent as well has Maholm. Hanson, well we all know what we’re working with here barring an improvement over the offseason, which is possible but shouldn’t be depended on.
MFin04
September 26th, 2012
11:15 am
Great video of last years collapse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJZ0kFoqKQE
Would be awesome to see this updated with the Braves making the playoffs this year. Sweet redemption.
Arkansas Transplant
September 26th, 2012
11:18 am
I was then told that he brings so much and fills so many holes that we should give him at least 13mil.
Much like all the finger pointing to Greinke’s mental state and how he couldn’t handle the big pressure of a big market team.
TennesseePaul
September 26th, 2012
11:19 am
BAS it’s on the si.com/MLB front page right now. Not sure how long they’ll keep it there though.
Hillbilly
September 26th, 2012
11:20 am
Let me correct myself. The Braves actually have shuffled a little bit…Hudson is scheduled to go Friday night. That means his regular rotation spot would be the last day of the season. He would only pitch then if the Braves needed to win that game for the division.
I don’t really like this. If Hudson goes Friday and the Nats clinch before Wednesday, then Hudson will probably be held back for the NLDS. That would put him going on 7 or 8 days rest in the playoffs. I would rather him be on regular rest, personally.
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
11:21 am
Lets say you sign Haren for 3 years/$36M. Who does he replace? Hanson, probably, which makes Maholm the 5th starter. No doubt Hudson, Haren, Medlen, Minor, Maholm is a stronger staff, but it costs the team $11M/year to make that improvement.
More like $7MM, since you’re relieved of Hanson’s arb salary. Hair-splitting, though.
I think getting a front-line guy has more impact than just 2013, though. Even if you think Medlen and Beachy and Minor could front the rotation from a quality standpoint, they are still pitchers who will have relatively few ML starts by 2014. Hudson will be near 40 by then, heck, may not even be here. They’ll need a guy to be the guy, at least for a year or two.
A few years ago, the Reds were loaded up with stout young pitchers, the key word being “young”. That inexperience cost them dearly.
BravePack(FreeFan)
September 26th, 2012
11:21 am
WOW! What a game to clinch a playoff spot last night. And to top it all off a walk-off HR from my boy Freeman with Chipper to start it. I said in the beginning of the season this is their redemption from last year and the same guy who made the last out last year helped the team into the playoffs this year. This year just feels like something special and they need to take this momentum and stay hot going into the playoffs. Let’s get excited Braves Country.
MFin04
September 26th, 2012
11:22 am
Hudson, Medlen, Minor, Maholm, Teheran/Delgado/Beachy
Is a pretty nice rotation. Surely one of Delgado/Teheran will be ready by next year right? That or I’m giving up completely and never listening to prospect talk again.
Maybe the addition of a 4th or 5th starter.
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
11:22 am
Aah, thanks brother.
I saw the pic on the home page, and clicked the story, but…
Hillbilly
September 26th, 2012
11:23 am
Well I guess if the Nats clinch before Wednesday, he’ll be on long rest for the nlds either way. Hope he doesn’t have one of those rusty early inning battles that he’s been known to have.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
11:25 am
This doesn’t exactly scream consistency or confidence. Your truly most reliable starters right now are Medlen and Minor. Hudson has been unconsistent as well has Maholm. Hanson, well we all know what we’re working with here barring an improvement over the offseason, which is possible but shouldn’t be depended on.
I’m guessing Hanson isn’t a Brave in 2013. Delgado gets his slot. Beachy returns mid-season, and, yes, can’t count on him for much at this point.
But inconsistency by Medlen, Minor, Hudson? Some (Minor and Hudson), but not every start is going to be a quality start, and I think these three make for a solid nucleus in ‘13. And I don’t think Minor’s been inconsistent for a while.
Arkansas Transplant
September 26th, 2012
11:26 am
Hudson, Medlen, Minor, Maholm, Teheran/Delgado/Beachy
Is a pretty nice rotation. Surely one of Delgado/Teheran will be ready by next year right? That or I’m giving up completely and never listening to prospect talk again. Maybe the addition of a 4th or 5th starter.
I hate statements like this… quantity does not always translate to quality. Sure we have options in the minors but they are prospects with little to none experience above AAA.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
11:26 am
Brandon Beachy has 41 career starts and Medlen has 29. Minor has 52, but I doubt anyone thinks of him as a #1-2. We need to add someone to the top of that rotation who has more experience. Greinke, Shields, Haren, etc.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
11:27 am
TP-
I just don’t think you give a guy THAT kind of $$$ who is on the wrong side of 30 on his next contract to be a leadoff hitter that K’s THAT much who once again is on the wrong side of 30 when his plus attribute is his speed which we all know decreases as you age….
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
11:29 am
At this point, there’s only going to be one slot open for a “prospect” if that’s what you consider Delgado. He did, after all, have a fairly good stint with the Braves’ this season. Unless Wren deals Delgado, I think he gets a shot to replace Hanson.
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
11:29 am
I’m guessing Hanson isn’t a Brave in 2013.
No real guarantee on Maholm, either. Pick up the option, sure, but I could see a scenario in which they acquire a top starter, trade Hanson and Maholm, and put Teheran at 5. Something like that. I know they love their lefties, though.
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
11:29 am
Just looking at the playoff teams’ rosters. The Reds’ pitching staff has been remarkably healthy and consistent this year.
. They have only used 17 pitchers all year.
. Their primary 12-man pitching staff for almost all of the year has pitched 97.3% of their innings, with almost all of the rest going to trade deadline acquisition Jonathan Broxton (20 innings).
. Their original starting 5 has made every start of the season except one, which was made by Todd Redmond.
Depending on if they start Arroyo twice more this season (he has 191 IP), the Reds have a shot at having four pitchers with 200 or more innings pitched. They would be the first team to do that since the White Sox did it in 2005 and 2006.
Innings pitched by their starters:
Cueto – 210
Latos – 197.1
Bailey – 195
Arroyo – 191
Leake – 173
MFin04
September 26th, 2012
11:31 am
“quantity does not always translate to quality.”
All those guys are quality. And Delagdo an Teheran ARE huge prospects.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
11:31 am
Is a pretty nice rotation. Surely one of Delgado/Teheran will be ready by next year right? That or I’m giving up completely and never listening to prospect talk again.
Hah! It is a little disappointing that it’s been 2 years and neither are in the rotation, and it might reach 3! They’ll get here soon enough. Though Delgado’s fate is sealed, I bet. He’ll be traded for some OF this winter.
Murph
September 26th, 2012
11:32 am
I’m having a hard time picturing Teheran starting in AAA for a 3rd consecutive year next season. On the flip side, I’m also having a hard time picturing the Braves turning down either Hudson or Maholm’s contract extensions. So… seems like the obvious moves are:
Non-tender JJ
Trade Hanson
Trade Delgado
I know people are calling for a front-line starter, but who gets kicked from the rotation if they do? Say they get Haren… that would give you a rotation of:
Hudson
Medlen
Haren
Maholm
Minor
Pretty solid, but again, does that mean a 3rd year of Teheran in AAA? If they don’t pick up a guy like Haren, then they’ve got:
Hudson
Medlen
Maholm
Minor
Teheran
Still pretty solid if Teheran lives up to even just a little bit of his pre-2012 hype. Don’t forget we’ve got Beachy coming back in August or September as well.
Gonna be an interesting offseason to say the least.
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
11:32 am
The Giants are similar to the Reds in that their 5 starters have started every game this season but two. They’ve shuffled their bullpen arms a good bit more than Cincinnati.
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
11:33 am
“I’m guessing Hanson isn’t a Brave in 2013.”
I’m hoping not!
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
11:33 am
Brandon Beachy has 41 career starts and Medlen has 29. Minor has 52, but I doubt anyone thinks of him as a #1-2. We need to add someone to the top of that rotation who has more experience. Greinke, Shields, Haren, etc.
Hudson’s the old pro of the lot, huh? I’m not uncomfortable with Medlen, Minor, and Hudson leading the staff next season. I’m assuming, too, that Minor and Medlen only get better (well, how much better can Medlen get?!). And Delgado is about due for his shot at a place in the rotation.
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
11:34 am
Meanwhile, the Braves have used 10 different starting pitchers this year, with nine of them making 8 or more starts.
ncbravesfan90
September 26th, 2012
11:34 am
“All those guys are quality. And Delagdo an Teheran ARE huge prospects.”
We hope Teheran is anyway…if not, talk about a huge bust. Very rough year for Teheran at AAA this year.
Arkansas Transplant
September 26th, 2012
11:35 am
No real guarantee on Maholm, either. Pick up the option, sure, but I could see a scenario in which they acquire a top starter, trade Hanson and Maholm, and put Teheran at 5. Something like that. I know they love their lefties, though.
Your going to get beat up for stating this but this won’t surprise me.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
11:35 am
So, just a quick question….
Who from outside the ATL area on the blog is heading down (or up) for the weekend series?
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
11:35 am
McFanned… 2nd paragraph is mine.
No real guarantee on Maholm, either. Pick up the option, sure, but I could see a scenario in which they acquire a top starter, trade Hanson and Maholm, and put Teheran at 5.
Could happen, but I doubt it. We traded Viz for him, and I doubt we can get that type of return if we traded him this offseason. Might happen if we signed Greinke…. (though it wouldn’t be necessary)
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
11:35 am
No real guarantee on Maholm, either. Pick up the option, sure, but I could see a scenario in which they acquire a top starter, trade Hanson and Maholm, and put Teheran at 5. Something like that. I know they love their lefties, though.
I have a hard time seeing them trading Maholm with the affordable 6.5 million. But, as you said, trading both Maholm and Hanson frees up around 10 million and if they want to give Teheran the #5 job then that’s probably the only way it’s going to happen barring injury.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
11:35 am
I think Teheran needs to start ‘13 at Gwinnett. I think the kid stills needs to work on his game. Better he do it at Gwinnett than downtown.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
11:38 am
“I’m guessing Hanson isn’t a Brave in 2013.”
I’m hoping not!
So is Efrim. He said so himself! I’m hoping Hanson gets it together, but I doubt it’ll be w/ Atlanta. No room for him.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
11:38 am
Actually, for some who don’t look at stats, you’d think Maholm is incosistent and unreliable and could be cut loose….
BUT if you actually look at the stats from day 1 to now, he ACTUALLY has been the MOST reliable starter we have as far as quality starts go….
If you’re into that sorta thing
Arkansas Transplant
September 26th, 2012
11:40 am
Murph, if we were to sign Haren in the offseason. I’d look to move Maholm and set the rotation up like this..
Haren
Medlen
Hudson
Minor
Hanson
I’d be open to moving either Hanson or Delgado but we’d have to get something of quality in return. Maholm has no future past next season with the Braves so no reason not to shop him with our other options.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
11:40 am
-?-
Why all of a sudden has Teheran jumped the line on Delgado when Randall has proven that not only is he more than serviceable at the big league level, but has outperformed Hanson in 2012….
All Teheran has proven is that he can give up bombs to MLB hitters in Spring Training….
George_George
September 26th, 2012
11:40 am
Good morning all
What a ending to a great game. OH THAT FREDDY, WAY TO DO IT CHIPPER. MEDLEN hung in there and his streak still going. No colapse this year, now we need to get past that play-in game we should not even have to play. In my mind BRAVES ARE THE WC TEAM. aLets hope for a mirical so we can win division and not have to play that silly game.
MFin04
September 26th, 2012
11:40 am
No way they get rid of Maholm. Guy is a solid lefty who keeps the ball on the ground. Would love to see him stay as a Brave long term.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
11:41 am
Haren isn’t a #1 AT….lets not kid ourselves….
Plus, if you throw Haren in there with Huddy and Hanson, you better go get some guys to run down the ball in the OF if we lose Bourn and move Prado into 3b
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
11:41 am
Yes. Total hatred.
Toss me into that dinosaur bin again.
It’s really not about being a “dinosaur”….
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
11:43 am
Plus, any mention of Hanson in the rotation over a much cheaper and better option in Delgado makes me want to reach through my PC and choke the life out of you AT
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
11:44 am
Guy is a solid lefty who keeps the ball on the ground
Yup, I hope we keep drafting LHP’s that work in the 86-90 mph range.
Oh, wait…..
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
11:44 am
I’d be open to moving either Hanson…but we’d have to get something of quality in return.
Well then, I guess he’ll be a Braves next year. He’d be a decent 5, but we have other options who have done better. We kinda need a top SP and Delgado/Teheran need to step into the rotation. Don’t really see where Tommy fits in.
Murph
September 26th, 2012
11:45 am
Why all of a sudden has Teheran jumped the line on Delgado
Because Delgado is going to be traded for a big OF bat or 3B, depending on what’s available.
Thank goodness for Prado. The team can chase the best available player between 3B and OF and know that Prado has the other option covered.
DAP
September 26th, 2012
11:46 am
10paul The entire team celebrating the victory as it appears Chipper is walking away…
link? i cant find it.
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
11:46 am
I swear, the Braves could be in the World Series, preparing for Game 7, and y’all would still be talking about the 2013 rotation.
Murph
September 26th, 2012
11:47 am
Does it make more sense to pick up Maholm’s option and try to move him or simply buy him out and move on? He’s pretty cheap next season.
Arkansas Transplant
September 26th, 2012
11:47 am
No way they get rid of Maholm. Guy is a solid lefty who keeps the ball on the ground.
Seriously? Then why does he get hurt so often giving up the long ball?
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
11:48 am
Murph-
I sure as hell hope not!
Been saying since day 1 that Delgado is better and will be a damn good pitcher….and havent seen anything since then to disprove him being better
Agreed on Prado….14 can do it all!
Arkansas Transplant
September 26th, 2012
11:49 am
P-T, Haren is as close to a #1 as your going to find on the market outside of Greinke.
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
11:49 am
I swear, the Braves could be in the World Series, preparing for Game 7, and y’all would still be talking about the 2013 rotation.
I know, it’s sick, but what can you do, LOL? I don’t want to talk about the season-ending scenarios, because they’re still a little iffy. I don’t want to talk anymore about chasing down the Nats, because I might jinx it.
Next year’s rotation is safe discussion.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
11:49 am
AT-
Cmon now man….you know damn well how many HR Glav gave up…
Plus you put Hanson in your rotation who gives up long balls like strippers give up lapdances…..
As I said, C’mon Man!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
11:50 am
If we can get something for Maholm, do it. We likely wouldn’t have to cover any salary.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
11:51 am
No way they get rid of Maholm. Guy is a solid lefty who keeps the ball on the ground. Would love to see him stay as a Brave long term.
I agree. I think Maholm is a solid back-end rotation guy and reliable. He mixes up his pitches, and when he’s on his game, he’s effective.
I know some folk like every pitcher to be a power arm, but a pitcher like Maholm has his place, and I think he’s affordable and experienced.
George_George
September 26th, 2012
11:52 am
Does anyone know about CHIPPER HARD COPY AJC TRIBUTE? I would think it would be in this comming Sundays paper, does anyone know for sure? I hope they sell AJC up here in NC, I am just across the border from Georgia.
MFin04
September 26th, 2012
11:52 am
Maholm has had 2 bad starts. 7 great starts. Guy has been a very solid addition to this team.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
11:53 am
Yup, I hope we keep drafting LHP’s that work in the 86-90 mph range.
You know what’s worse than soft-tossing lefties such as Maholm?
Former gas throwing, but now soft-tossing righties. Tommy Hanson comes to mind.
DAP: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/?eref=sinav&sct=hp_nv_a
Enquiring Minds Want To Know
September 26th, 2012
11:55 am
I don’t know why we’d want to move Maholm. He had a good year, he’s left-handed, and he’s value priced. We need that.
Murph
September 26th, 2012
11:55 am
I only talk about the 2013 rotation because I can’t stomach any more talk about Bourn or the pursuit of a LF… again.
Murph
September 26th, 2012
11:57 am
Haren is 31 and coming off a not-so-good season… hope he’s cheap.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
11:58 am
Here’s a thought…
How about we talk about Paul Maholm being great tonight and figuring out how to rattle the sticks enough to beat Josh Johnson
AND
Kyle Kendrick doing to the Nats what he does to the Braves and John Lannan picking up his 1st loss of the year and the Braves closing to 3 back w/ 7 to play.
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
11:58 am
“I swear, the Braves could be in the World Series, preparing for Game 7, and y’all would still be talking about the 2013 rotation.”
Hilarious isn’t it? Also sad.
MFin04
September 26th, 2012
11:58 am
“I can’t stomach any more talk about Bourn or the pursuit of a LF… again.”
Well you could talk to one of us about Greinke or another one of us about Jurrjens, or another one of us about velocity being the most important trait of a pitcher, or you could talk to one of us about using your closer in innings other than the 9th or a save situation.
Oh and there are a few that would love to talk about all things Bobby Cox. Or if you get really bored there is a certain someone who would love to tell you all good things of Brian McCann.
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
12:01 pm
I tried to start a little conversation about some potential playoff opponents, but that dog didn’t hunt.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
12:03 pm
George_George, you may want to contact AJC directly. I’m sure they’ll sell you a copy plus postage.
Venice Jim
September 26th, 2012
12:03 pm
George – it is Sunday’s paper…
George_George
September 26th, 2012
12:05 pm
Mixxo
September 26th, 2012
11:58 am
“I swear, the Braves could be in the World Series, preparing for Game 7, and y’all would still be talking about the 2013 rotation.”
Hilarious isn’t it? Also sad.
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Yup This whole page except for my post NOT A WORD ABOUT LAST NIGHTS GAME, it is kind of sad. BTW DOB missed a heck of a game.
TP
September 26th, 2012
12:06 pm
Don’t mean to pour ice cold water (Deion) on the celebration, but just damn, they clinched the second spot on a do-or-die wildcard game. Man, take me back to the 90’s !! I guess the 91 team that went from worst to the seventh game of WS would have burned down FCS by making it to the WS.
Oh, I forgot, we had a bigger parade than the Twins
George_George
September 26th, 2012
12:07 pm
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
12:03 pm
George_George, you may want to contact AJC directly. I’m sure they’ll sell you a copy plus postage.
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Thank you and VJ. I will call the paper.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
12:09 pm
How about we talk about Paul Maholm being great tonight and figuring out how to rattle the sticks enough to beat Josh Johnson
AND
Kyle Kendrick doing to the Nats what he does to the Braves and John Lannan picking up his 1st loss of the year and the Braves closing to 3 back w/ 7 to play.
The feller has a point.
Now, who will the Braves draft next summer…
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
12:10 pm
How the 5 likely NL playoff teams rank
Run differential:
1. Washington +139
2. St. Louis +109
3. Atlanta +90
4. Cincinnati +87
4. San Francisco +63
Runs scored
1. St. Louis 733
2. Washington 695
3. San Francisco 685
4. Atlanta 676
5. Cincinnati 655
Runs allowed
1. Washington 556
2. Cincinnati 568
3. Atlanta 586
4. San Francisco 622
5. St. Louis 629
CB
September 26th, 2012
12:12 pm
BAS, the picture of Chipper is still up. Hit the part that says MLB and it takes you there.
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
12:13 pm
On-base percentage
1. St. Louis .338
2. San Francisco .327
3. Washington .322
4. Atlanta .321
5. Cincinnati .318
Slugging percentage
1. Washington, .425
2. St. Louis .424
3. Cincinnati .417
4. San Francisco .395
5. Atlanta .393
OPS
1. St. Louis .760
2. Washington .747
3. Cincinnati .735
4. San Francisco .722
5. Atlanta .714
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
12:15 pm
Home runs
1. Washington 180
2. Cincinnati 169
3. St. Louis 154
4. Atlanta 146
5. San Francisco 95
Stolen bases
1. San Francisco 111
2. Washington 100
3. Atlanta 93
4. St. Louis 90
5. Cincinnati 87
Waffle House or Bust
September 26th, 2012
12:19 pm
Last night means nothing. Nice to be back in the playoffs but I want to see a Braves team go deep into the postseason instead of one and out like previous years.
MFin04
September 26th, 2012
12:19 pm
CRAP WE S.U.C.K. AT ALL OF THESE CATEGORIES. SWITCH TO BULLPEN MODE!
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
12:19 pm
Total ERA
1. Washington 3.30
2. Cincinnati 3.40
3. Atlanta 3.51
4. San Francisco 3.71
5. St. Louis 3.76
Starter ERA
1. Washington 3.31
2. St. Louis 3.63
3. Cincinnati 3.73
4. San Francisco 3.77
5. Atlanta 3.83
Bullpen ERA
1. Cincinnati 2.61
2. Atlanta 2.89
3. Washington 3.27
4. San Francisco 3.59
5. St. Louis 4.02
Defense (baseball-ref fielding runs)
1. Atlanta 95
2. Cincinnati 31
3. Washington 19
4. San Francisco -6
5. St. Louis -21
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
12:19 pm
Thanks, CB.
TP got me there. But TOBF gave DAP a link. Where were you? What am I, chopped liver?
Waffle House or Bust
September 26th, 2012
12:19 pm
Brian from SC – You do realize none of that means anything in the postseason right?
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
12:20 pm
Here’s a positive one:
2nd half ERA
1. Atlanta 3.02
2. Washington 3.40
3. Cincinnati 3.41
4. St. Louis 3.56
5. San Francisco 3.81
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
12:20 pm
Brian from SC – You do realize none of that means anything in the postseason right?
OK. Feel free to skip over it.
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
12:23 pm
“You do realize none of that means anything in the postseason right?”
Seriously? Butt-face (McFann-connotation).
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
12:23 pm
Brian-
Do me a favor….
Take Hanson and JJ out of the starter numbers and let me know what our ERA is at….
Talk about DEAD weight!
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
12:24 pm
Last 20 games record
1. Atlanta 14-6
2. San Francisco 13-7
3. Cincinnati 12-8
4. Washington 11-9
4. St. Louis 11-9
Lee in S GA
September 26th, 2012
12:24 pm
Fredi may get a handful of votes for MOY but I really think Davey Johnson will run away with it. I mean this is Washington’s 1st major league baseball playoff team since 1933 and since the name ” Washington Nationals” came into being in 2005 their record each season (excluding this season)has been as follows:
2005 81-81 last place
2006 71-91 last place
2007 73-89 4th place
2008 59-102 last place
2009 59-103 last place
2010 69-93 last place
2011 80-81 3rd place
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
12:25 pm
Magical Players
1. Chipper Jones
2. none
3. none
4. none
5. none
Advantage Braves!!!
CB
September 26th, 2012
12:27 pm
BAS, must have been doing my honey do list.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
12:28 pm
It would be great to be the hot team as we enter the playoffs. Braves have a chance to end their final 30+ games with over 20 wins. (19-7 in Sept if we win the next 4).
The Cards finished 18-8 in September last year. We know how they finished the year.
TP
September 26th, 2012
12:31 pm
So you’re an actuary, good for you. But damn, baseball aint that deep. Pitch, run, hit and catch….no more, no less.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
12:32 pm
Last night means nothing. Nice to be back in the playoffs but I want to see a Braves team go deep into the postseason instead of one and out like previous years.
“Last night means nothing.” Oh, really? Clinching a post season berth “means nothing.”
A team has to get into the post season to go deep into the post season. Or did I miss something?
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
12:33 pm
Tell that ball-and-chain that the ol’ MIB takes precedence. You’ve got to take charge, man. I know; it’s how I’ve been married all these zero years.
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2012
12:36 pm
A guy is VOLUNTARILY posting FREE information, and multiple people give him crap. Good grief, I thought I had problems. You folks need to fall into a hole. And, no Efrim-3-foot deal, either.
Win One For The Chipper
September 26th, 2012
12:37 pm
“Last 20 games record
1. Atlanta 14-6
2. San Francisco 13-7
3. Cincinnati 12-8
4. Washington 11-9
4. St. Louis 11-9″
THAT may be the most important number. It’s not always the best teanm that wins but often, it’s the hottest.
Stay hot, Bravos!
George_George
September 26th, 2012
12:38 pm
phil
September 25th, 2012
10:30 pm
Thinking about it, VJ, if you meant basically coming to ACE’s defense, i don’t think the guy meant any harm, and nor do most of the negative sorts….
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The demise of ACE is sad, he was nice to cabravesfan and did not see him really nasty with others.
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
12:38 pm
Speaking of McFann
It’s a little odd to see the Braves having success without Heap playing a bigger role in it. Hopefully they can manage him down the stretch, so as to be as healthy as he can be, and maybe get on an offensive roll.
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
12:39 pm
McCann may not be getting a lot of big hits right now, but he’s still a big leader in the clubhouse, and still manages the games behind the plate. He may have more impact than meets the eye.
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
12:40 pm
I thought Mac looked pretty good last night. I remember a couple of good ABs.
George_George
September 26th, 2012
12:42 pm
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
12:38 pm
Speaking of McFann
It’s a little odd to see the Braves having success without Heap playing a bigger role in it. Hopefully they can manage him down the stretch, so as to be as healthy as he can be, and maybe get on an offensive roll.
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Poor McFann, it is a shame the season Heap has had we don’t see many posts from her anymore. I miss her.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
12:43 pm
You know whats great about playoff baseball?
McCann and Uggla now have a clean slate and can redefine their seasons with a solid playoff run
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
12:44 pm
What happened to McFanny?
Is she is Witness Protection now?
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
12:45 pm
I agree he has had some good ABs lately, Brian.
DAP
September 26th, 2012
12:47 pm
equiring minds No doubt Hudson, Haren, Medlen, Minor, Maholm is a stronger staff, but it costs the team $11M/year to make that improvement.
Sorry, but unless we get a raise, that $11M has got to go to the outfield.
there are different ways to build a winning team. improveing run prevention is one way. i dont know how a 3 year $36mil contract costs the team $11mil per year, but it would be totally worth it. chipper’s 14mil, lowe’s 10mil, bournes 9mil, jurrjens 5mil hinske’s 1 mil, wilson’s 1 mil, durbin’s 1mil, ect….there will be plenty of money for a $12mil frontline starting pitcher.
Brian from SC
September 26th, 2012
12:47 pm
Bat, he doesn’t look hurt, or overmatched right now. Good sign that the results will soon follow, hopefully about 1-3 weeks from now.
Venice Jim
September 26th, 2012
12:47 pm
I was just discussing the demise of Andy Williams with McFann on Twitter…
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
12:47 pm
Hard to believe the 2005 Nationals finished in last place.
They went into play (@ ATL) in a first place tie on July 27.
DAP
September 26th, 2012
12:47 pm
10pauL Toss me into that dinosaur bin again. I don’t think you pay a guy $16+M a year for baserunning a defense
base running and defense are cheap. rick ankiel is available.
CB
September 26th, 2012
12:49 pm
BAS,I told her you called her a ball and chain. Be afraid,very afraid.
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
12:49 pm
Frankly, I’m glad to see us playing well w/out Heap playing a bigger role.
Heap is not the future. And it’s good to see that we don’t have to have him on the field to win.
George_George
September 26th, 2012
12:49 pm
Lee in S GA
September 26th, 2012
12:24 pm
If NATS hold on and win division [I hope they don't] DAVEY should win MGR of YEAR. If not DAVEY, DUSTY should get it. FREDI no way even is he did a slightly better job this year than last.
MFin04
September 26th, 2012
12:49 pm
“McCann and Uggla now have a clean slate and can redefine their seasons with a solid playoff run”
Yep, agreed. Bourn too. Get him rested and healthy and he should be ready to go.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
12:49 pm
McFann on twitter???
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
12:52 pm
Just got home to watch the replay of Freddie’s walk-off. It was BEAUTY-FUL!!
Capt.Mudd
September 26th, 2012
12:54 pm
I just changed the suspension selector switch to ‘bull pen mode,” and accordingly, my mind began to wander as I drove the wild curves and unforgiving straights. Lord, I never knew such fun existed–finally a welcomed change-up to the mounds of work that have rotated to my office. Well, I’m getting far off base now for sure, 360 degree turn and I’m back….nice ’switch’….time fo Meds.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
12:56 pm
I loved Andy Williams Christmas songs, VJ. Some of my all-time favorites, actually.
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
12:56 pm
Bat, he doesn’t look hurt, or overmatched right now. Good sign that the results will soon follow, hopefully about 1-3 weeks from now. _ Brian
Yep, play him enough to stay sharp, but rest him enough so that his knee and shoulder is okay. I’m glad I don’t have to manage that.
O.M.G.
September 26th, 2012
12:57 pm
VJ, tell McFann we miss her. But I understand why she is not here.
Fols
September 26th, 2012
12:58 pm
So what order does last nights greatness fall in?
1 – Clinching the playoff spot
2 – Walk-off homerun by our RBI man and young star Freeman
3 – Chipper starting the inning putting the 3rd run into scoring position with a double
4 – Medlen starting and continues the win streak even on a ’slightly’ poor outting by his standards.
5 – Superstar Kimbrel holding down the fort and picking up the W in a position we rarely put him into.
I don’t know, other than Freemand and Heyward being equal young studs…….you could put either in that position, the combined group of them just made for a special night.
I hope Washington got a little nervous….cause after tonight they’ll only be 3 games up on us and trending in the wrong direction.
Venice Jim
September 26th, 2012
1:00 pm
usnavywolf – got to see his Christmas show in ATL 10 years ago – it was lots of fun…
DAP
September 26th, 2012
1:00 pm
p-town Who from outside the ATL area on the blog is heading down (or up) for the weekend series?
me. i live in augusta. ill be going to the game on sunday. would go friday and/or saturday, but my brother in law is getting married. poor planning on his (ok, her) part.
Haren isn’t a #1 AT….lets not kid ourselves…
i dont know about that. he certainly was one in his last tour around the NL. id say he pitched like one for the angels in 2010 and 2011 as well. he is dang good. definitely a shot at being our best pitcher in 2013, if we get him.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
1:01 pm
Fol,
As long as Philly has something to play for (not out of the playoff race YET), they’ll give the Nats everything they’ve got. I’m torn, b/c even if they win the Division, part of me will be happy for them, because as a franchise they haven’t had much success.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
1:03 pm
I found out on the way home from work this morning of his passing….sad day. My wife and I love songs from that era.
Jeff R
September 26th, 2012
1:03 pm
Well, I think the Phils definitely want to finish north of .500. And I think they wouldn’t mind slapping down those DC upstarts.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
1:04 pm
I’d love to go this weekend, but work calls. If, however, the season ends up tied, and the Braves have to go to DC for a one-game playoff, I’ll go.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
1:04 pm
DAP-
Well, if you have Twitter, drop me a Tweet and let me know where you’re at and I’ll drop by and introduce myself….
Will have access to that but not much to the blog….
http://twitter.com/PTownBrave22
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
1:05 pm
Jeff R,
Yeah, it’d be fun to watch. Long shot, but stranger things have happened. And while we’re on the subject of long shots, let me just say about the UT-UGA game……nah, can’t even pretend UT will win.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
1:07 pm
DAP-
Being a teams best pitcher does not make him a #1, just ask Huddy or whoever the Cards assume is their #1….
That said, for some teams it doesnt matter if you can average 5 runs a game….
Otherwise for teams like the Braves who struggle in plating those runners on base, you need some dominance and consistency at the front end….thats why Meds has been such a bright spot.
Fols
September 26th, 2012
1:07 pm
I can just feel the air taken out of the Nationals season…that decision to shut down one of the best in the game is going to bite them in the end. They have not had the same consistency since that date. I think they’ll see the best of Philly in the next couple days……
Watching the Braves celebrate will either hurt em or give them a kick in the ass. Lets hope they cave!
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
1:09 pm
i dont know about that. [Haren] certainly was [a top pitcher] in his last tour around the NL
Absolutely. He’s the same level of pitcher as Hudson, at the time the Braves traded for him. Not a stone ace, but certainly elite. He’d be a fine addition, if the Braves decide to go that way.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
1:09 pm
Like others, I wish Cliff Lee and Cole Hamels would somehow find their way into the last series against the Nats….
Unfortunately it looks as though they will go in the weekend series against the Fish
George_George
September 26th, 2012
1:10 pm
I hope FOX SPORTS SOUTH will have full live coverage of CHIPPER’s night.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
1:10 pm
Scoots-
I don’t disagree that he’d be a fine addition….
But he’s not a 1
O.M.G.
September 26th, 2012
1:10 pm
I am a little worried about tonight’s game. Johnson is tough and after last nights party, how many of the guys will have “flu like symptoms”.
David O'Brien
September 26th, 2012
1:11 pm
Yup This whole page except for my post NOT A WORD ABOUT LAST NIGHTS GAME, it is kind of sad. BTW DOB missed a heck of a game. — Georgie
Actually, I watched every pitch of the game while seated next to my girlfriend on the couch in my living room, after writing my Chipper column earlier in the day and getting a half-day off. (Plus today off, then back out at the ballpark, so you can jot it down in your DOB calendar, georgie boy.)
Now, if not being at the ballpark means I “missed” the game, well, yes, you are correct. But if that’s what you call missing the game, then I’m going to go out on a limb and say a whole lot of folks on the ol’ blog here, including yourself, probably haven’t seen a Braves game in quite some time. And plenty have probably NEVER seen a game, according to your definition.
Enjoy the rest of your afternoon, georgie. Take a nap and enjoy tonight’s ballgame. Well, I mean unless you’re going to “miss it.”
Take care.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
1:11 pm
UGA’s gonna smack down UT this weekend, esp. since it’s in Athens. They’ll make UT look like a Big East team!
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
1:12 pm
OMG,
I’m not sure if the “flu-like symptoms” is code for something else, but please remember these aren’t the FAlcons…the Braves seem to celebrate their wins with a little more discretion.
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
1:13 pm
I am a little worried about tonight’s game. Johnson is tough and after last nights party, how many of the guys will have “flu like symptoms”.
Just as likely that they’ll be totally amped, still flying high on the walk-off. Might put up a four-spot in the first and cruise in.
Fols
September 26th, 2012
1:14 pm
Georgie gets way too much DOB love.
I’m going to start ripping on DOB for not working and not like Tool but enjoying Mumford so that he replies to me! That’s right DOB……try me…….I don’t care if your in the office or on that couch.
Tool > Mumford
lol
DAP
September 26th, 2012
1:15 pm
DOB Actually, I watched every pitch of the game
i know youre technically not a fan, but did you pump your fist? be honest. it was quite a moment at my house.
RC
September 26th, 2012
1:18 pm
DOB, don’t take this as the ragging that those like Georgie give you, but I am slightly disappointed when you aren’t covering games like this one. I certainly understand why you need the time off, and I’m not mentioning it to suggest that you should do anything different. Just mentioning it because I enjoy reading your analysis, and while Carroll does a fine job, it’s always fun to see your insights on things.
Thanks for all the coverage this season, enjoy the day off, and we’re looking forward to your coverage of the postseason!
Lee in S GA
September 26th, 2012
1:18 pm
“Because Delgado is going to be traded for a big OF bat or 3B, depending on what’s available.”
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Need a definition of big …does that mean “elite” or “chubby”. just not sure if Degado alone can bring in a big impact player maybe a average decent one and then again maybe that is all the Braves really need anyway.
Fols
September 26th, 2012
1:18 pm
Sorry if this has already come out and in the open (missed it if it did).
What is the big deal between Georgie and DOB’s job? I am REALLY seriously missing something here? I mean this has gone on for what seems like forever?
O.M.G.
September 26th, 2012
1:19 pm
I hope you guys are right. I would love to see a four-spot in the first.
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
1:21 pm
[the walkoff] was quite a moment at my house.
I had dogs barking, cats cavorting, beer spilling…
…just a regular evening.
kenhotlanta
September 26th, 2012
1:21 pm
I have errands to run, so I’m going to put all of my thoughts here:
1. I commented last night on that great game, but it feels even better this morning. What a thrill for Chipper to be the leader of this wonderful comeback year. This is a good, fun team with a lot of really good players.
2. I hope Hanson is hurt and is hiding it…how else to explain how awful he has been this year. If he is hurt, he can heal.
3. SI.com has the Falcons #1 in the Power Rankings.
4. Ace was OK except for his thing for criticizing DOB all of the time.
5. I saw Andy Williams live about a year ago on the British Jools Holland show, and I was amazed at how strong his voice was at his age. I never cared a lot for his music, but I always liked Moon River. RIP.
6. Sons of Anarchy is very strong this year and just gets better and better.
Everyone have a good day and lets hope for another win tonight, I still think the division title is possible.
Enquiring Minds Want To Know
September 26th, 2012
1:23 pm
i dont know how a 3 year $36mil contract costs the team $11mil per year- DAP
A significant rounding error on my part. Hanson’s making about a half mil this year, and I knew he was due a raise. Apparently the arb estimate is $4MM, not $1MM. Mea culpa. That’s why ncscoots said the figure was $7MM, not $11MM. Anyway, its the cost of signing that hypothetical Haren vs. keeping Hanson.
The rankings supplied by Brian from SC a little while ago support my overall point, I believe. Help is essential with the bats, especially with Chipper gone. We can compete with the pitching staff we have if need be.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
1:23 pm
I know, TOBF, but I like to harbor at least a little optimism. I like Mark Richt a lot, actually, both as a coach and a person.. I see a lot of similarities between him and Phil Fulmer. Unfortunately, the boosters and much of VolNation panicked after the loss to Wyoming in ‘07.
jeffrey d
September 26th, 2012
1:23 pm
Fols – George complains about DOB taking 1-2 days off a week with the impenetrable logic that if Chip and Joe work 7 days a week, so should DOB.
RC
September 26th, 2012
1:24 pm
OMG,
I’m not sure if the “flu-like symptoms” is code for something else, but please remember these aren’t the FAlcons…the Braves seem to celebrate their wins with a little more discretion.
It’s hard to say who does and doesn’t “celebrate with discretion” until someone makes a mistake such as Turner did. Don’t forget the multiple situations with Rafael Furcal when he was with the Braves, or even the arrest of Lowe last season (although I don’t believe he was found guilty).
I certainly hope that everyone celebrates responsibly and safely, but there have been way too many instances where that wasn’t the case to assume it of anyone. I’ll let it drop here because if I don’t I’m liable to spend 8 pages writing about how MLB makes a huge deal about who is or isn’t using performance enhancing drugs yet gives little more than a slap on the wrist for those players who endanger the lives of themselves and others by driving under than influence.
P-Town Brave ©
September 26th, 2012
1:25 pm
Scoots-
Yeah, I wanted to share and pour my beer on the nearest cat but I just got evil looks from my girl so I refrained….
DOB-
So that means there’s still the chance that I get to grace you with my presence this weekend?
The A Bomb
September 26th, 2012
1:25 pm
Ken — Was at the Falcons game Sunday in San Diego. It was awesome.
They have that look….
O.M.G.
September 26th, 2012
1:26 pm
Fols, Georgie’s and idiot and thinks DOB should work 24/7 and never be thanked for “doing his job”. Or was that Ace? DOB always does a Great Job.
Ray
September 26th, 2012
1:28 pm
In the press box there is no cheering. However at home just go as nutty as you want.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
1:28 pm
Georgie has a man crush on DOB… in fact, believe that Georgie’s first name is Boy. He counted on coming in to stalk DOB, but since he was gone. Georgie has launched into this tirade of insanity.
jeffrey d
September 26th, 2012
1:28 pm
No, I think it was Don or Mitchell or one of them who complained about people thanking someone. ACE is just a troll. The person who made this comment was sincerely annoyed
O.M.G.
September 26th, 2012
1:29 pm
RC–Exactly.
Sopheee
September 26th, 2012
1:30 pm
There were quite a few Falcons fans in San Diego this past weekend. It was pretty cool to hear the chants for them.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
1:30 pm
RC,
I’m sorry; I wasn’t trying to diminish the potential tragic consequences of drinking and driving. Seriously, I wasn’t. Being in the Navy, and stationed at the World’s largest Naval Base, unfortunately, it happens waaaaay too often.
flange1
September 26th, 2012
1:30 pm
I think George, ace and Lane Kiffin are the same blogger using different names.
Throw in Tomawalking as well.
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
1:31 pm
We can compete with the pitching staff we have if need be.
Hey, if they want to put the hammer down on both OF spots and go with the current pitching, that’s OK. Run differential is run differential.
But that seems almost contrary to their culture and history. Given the choice of going big on pitching or going big on offense, they seem to always come down on the pitching side. I’m greedy, of course, so I want to see ‘em do both.
DAP
September 26th, 2012
1:31 pm
equiring minds The rankings supplied by Brian from SC a little while ago support my overall point, I believe. Help is essential with the bats, especially with Chipper gone. We can compete with the pitching staff we have if need be
we could compete with the offense if need be, too.
i think we can improve both.
Fols
September 26th, 2012
1:32 pm
I would hope they didn’t celebrate too hard…the single game play really changes things. It will be an exciting game, but it will also make all that jumping around one of these teams performs look mighty silly.
Maybe if they handed out the playoff shirts to the winner of that game….hey what an idea!
You cannot tell me that any professional ball player will take much pride in making the playoffs if they lose that single elimination game.
That game is just silly
DAP
September 26th, 2012
1:33 pm
and dont go thinking this lineup doesnt have some serious firepower in it, even without chipper and bourn.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
1:33 pm
The more I think about the play-in game, the more I hate it. Like, really hate it. Horrible idea. One game in a vacuum never tells you how good an MLB team is.
George_George
September 26th, 2012
1:33 pm
DAP
September 26th, 2012
1:15 pm
DOB Actually, I watched every pitch of the game
i know youre technically not a fan, but did you pump your fist? be honest. it was quite a moment at my house.
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I believe he is a FREDI fan and there is nothing wrong with him being a BRAVES fan the TV guys show they are. I just can’t see why he needs so much time off in season when he has most of NOV, DEC, JAN, and FEB off.
O.M.G.
September 26th, 2012
1:33 pm
jeffrey d-thanks for the correction. I couldn’t remember.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
1:33 pm
Falcons #1? Sure look like it, but I wish we were ranked 2. No pressure
<em.2. I hope Hanson is hurt and is hiding it…how else to explain how awful he has been this year. If he is hurt, he can heal.
While that is the “better” option, I’d hope that he’s smart enough to know that by hiding the injury, he’s hurting himself and the team more.
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
1:34 pm
I’ll forget what Magic Johnson’s flu-like symptoms turned out to be.
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
1:35 pm
*** NEVER ***
(I hate not being able to edit).
phil
September 26th, 2012
1:35 pm
David O’Brien
September 26th, 2012
10:34 am
Freeman’s blast. . . Medlen. . . The guys’ faces as they waited for Freeman to round the bases. . . all amazing, but the clip I absolutely can’t get enough of is Chipper’s 90 foot trot from third to home with his fist in the air. LOVE IT!!! — SpideyMatt
He had the look of sheer, unfiltered joy, didn’t he? Man, the look on his face, and on the guys’ faces at home plate as they waited for Freeman, was the stuff that makes sports so wonderful, and so unlike anything else.
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There’s gotta be some way to complain about that celebration….hmmmmm
Oh, I know. FF ran too fast around the bases. Ridiculous.
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
1:35 pm
It was ACE doing the “why thank O’Brien for doing his job” thing
DOBBERS
Sopheee
September 26th, 2012
1:36 pm
Go back to sleep, George.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
1:36 pm
See, I think it’s always a bad idea to hide an injury. Seems like someone else did that a few years back…Redmond I think it was? Might make the injury worse by not dealing with it as soon as possible. However, despite some opinions to the contrary, I totally believe that Hanson can be really good again, and good trade bait for some much needed pop in the lineup.
David O'Brien
September 26th, 2012
1:37 pm
DOB, don’t take this as the ragging that those like Georgie give you, but I am slightly disappointed when you aren’t covering games like this one. I certainly understand why you need the time off, and I’m not mentioning it to suggest that you should do anything different. Just mentioning it because I enjoy reading your analysis, and while Carroll does a fine job, it’s always fun to see your insights on things. — RC
Thanks for the kind words. But RC, understand that I just covered all of the seven-day road trip (the only writer that did cover all seven days, by the way). And then wrote a Chipper column for special section after getting back from airport on Monday around 11 a.m. So that was eight days in a row working. Now, if I’d have gone out to cover last night’s game, what if they don’t clinch? Do I just keep going back until they do? And just tell others in my life, who’ve planned on seeing me for a night and arranged sitter, etc, than I’ll see ya after the Braves clinch? And if they don’t clinch until the Pittsburgh trip, which I’m on, then I should just have worked right through the homestand and the trip, knowing how hectic things get once we get to postseason?
We make a work scheduled and we follow it. Carroll did a terrific job writing the game story. The team is in very capable hands when she’s got it on her own. I value my days off, and know that my work suffers when I try to work 10 days in a row, 12 hours a day. It just does. Mistakes are more frequent, and life just ain’t too enjoyable when you’re working from the moment you wake up till you go to bed, day after day for two weeks straight. Spring training or during the actual postseason is the only time of year that should be necessary.
I actually enjoyed watching last night’s game on TV, with replays. Enjoyed being able to watch the emotions of the players on the field, as Freddie rounded the bases, instead of having my head in my laptop trying to rewrite game story in 3 minutes to make first deadline, etc. Gave me good perspective that I can use in future stories. And helped my life outside of work. Because, whether folks understand it or not, this is my job. I’m not a fanboy. I like seeing the team do well, as I’ve said before, because they have a lot of genuinely great dudes on the team, plus the fact it’s more interesting and fun to cover a team that’s doing well and going to postseason, etc.
But as for getting squirted with champagne and being there in person, well, I’ve done that enough times that missing it last night didn’t leave me longing to be there. We cover the team. That’s our job. We’re not the story. The team is. As much as a couple of folks here seem to think we’re part of the team, we’re not.
O.M.G.
September 26th, 2012
1:37 pm
Bat–Thanks. I’m so confused. LOL
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
1:38 pm
and FOLS, over time, I think you may see teams temper the enthusiams a bit on clinching a spot in the 1 gamer.
But, it will always be situational, I suspect. Example, if in 15 years the Pirates finally have a winning record and clinch a spot in the WC game, then you can expect a huge celebration in Pittsburgh – on field and in the club house.
But, even this year, if the Yankees lose their hold on first place and fall backward into the WC game, I don’t expect much, if any, celebration from them. Why would they?
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 26th, 2012
1:39 pm
Jorge…. Geez
By the way, what’s happened to T’Hawkin? Been MIA since Lew put him in his place, not that it’s a bad thing…
RC
September 26th, 2012
1:39 pm
usnavyvolfaninva,
No worries, I didn’t take your comment that way at all. I was simply pointing out that while I know we like to think of the Braves players as “above it” somehow, we really only find out what goes on once the players leave the stadium when one of them screws up and makes a mistake.
Then I used that to rant a little on MLB’s back-@$$wards policies.
DAP
September 26th, 2012
1:39 pm
phil There’s gotta be some way to complain about that celebration….hmmmmm
well, actually, when freedie “leaped” to homeplate, he missed it by at least 3 feet. the bouncing group of grown men had to herd him back to the plate while simultaneously celebrating. jerks dont even know how to walk off right.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
1:40 pm
DOB,
I’m not one of the more seasoned posters on here, but I can’t thank you and CR enough for the job that both of you do. I sometimes just take it for granted, clicking on the “DAily DOB,” but really you keep things interesting, and I love the way you do your job. Don’t know if I’ll ever adapt your taste in music, but thank you for all you do on here. I know I speak for many.
George_George
September 26th, 2012
1:40 pm
O.M.G.
September 26th, 2012
1:26 pm
I have said “thank you several times to DOB.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
1:41 pm
RC,
thanks.
David O'Brien
September 26th, 2012
1:41 pm
kenhotlanta: Watched Sons at about 1 a.m., and it was so riveting I was more awake when it was over. Wow, what a terrific, unexpected turn of events.
David O'Brien
September 26th, 2012
1:42 pm
Sorry if this has already come out and in the open (missed it if it did).
What is the big deal between Georgie and DOB’s job? I am REALLY seriously missing something here? I mean this has gone on for what seems like forever? – Fols
It’s real simple. A bit disturbing, I must admit. But simple:
ob·ses·sion
[uhb-sesh-uhn]
noun
1.
the domination of one’s thoughts or feelings by a persistent idea, image, desire, etc.
2.
the idea, image, desire, feeling, etc., itself.
Threadkiller
September 26th, 2012
1:43 pm
DOB, You don’t have to respond to that stuff! We all know what you do for the Braves,AJC, & Us..But what we really want to know…Your Date Last Night…Was It A Sleep Over Date??? Hehehehe
George_George
September 26th, 2012
1:43 pm
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
1:28 pm
Georgie has a man crush on DOB… in fact, believe that Georgie’s first name is Boy. He counted on coming in to stalk DOB, but since he was gone. Georgie has launched into this tirade of insanity.
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tirade of insanity? Just WHAT did I say today before DOB started in on me.
MFin04
September 26th, 2012
1:43 pm
“As much as a couple of folks here seem to think we’re part of the team, we’re not.”
Well who do I email to look into getting you a World Series ring from the Braves?!?
But seriously, this is one neat place to be and to get information. From batting practice times, to rain delay updates, to Braves hotel accommodations on the road, to batting lineups and injury updates. Great place for information and I think that is why many of us have been here for years. This site unites Braves fans. (And makes us want to hurt each other at times). But it adds a level of depth to baseball that is unparallelled. So thanks to all and let’s win a game, then work on getting a title.
David O'Brien
September 26th, 2012
1:44 pm
Oh, and RC, you said, “DOB, don’t take this as the ragging that those like Georgie give you…”
Dude, if there were many others like Georgie (and Ace), the paper would probably want to hire security detail for me. Thankfully, we don’t run into that degree of OCD very often, or blogging might fall out of favor.
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
1:44 pm
and it was so riveting I was more awake when it was over.
SOA has gotten to the point where every episode is a high-leverage inning, damn near a walk-off every night.
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
1:46 pm
David O’Brien @ 1:37 pm
Now,see, I appreciate that and it didn’t take ACE acting like a dip stick to get O’Brien to weigh in.
cricket
September 26th, 2012
1:46 pm
replacement refs have ruled that freeman actually never touched the plate, directly jumping in celebration scrum. however since he was not tagged out, the game is still going on..
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
1:46 pm
Well,
O.M.G.
September 26th, 2012
1:46 pm
George, I said I could not remember and I have been corrected. So sorry about that. But meanwhile back at the ranch, how can you thank him one time and then jump on him another. He works just as hard on the off season as he does during the season.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
1:47 pm
George.
You’ve been on this the last 2 days dude. OK, maybe I exaggerated with the tirade thing, but it’s been explained to you by several people on this blog (including CR), and it doesn’t seem to satisfy you. Why?
Fols
September 26th, 2012
1:47 pm
Well played DOB…..well played….
cricket
September 26th, 2012
1:47 pm
anyone seen VEGAS? looks promising, on my DVR schedule
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
1:47 pm
cricket.
LOL!!
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
1:48 pm
What I meant to say was here are some of our Danville Braves in the Appy League Top 20…
2012 Appalachian League Top 20 Prospects
By Matt Eddy
September 26, 2012
1. Byron Buxton, of, Elizabethton (Twins)
2. Courtney Hawkins, of, Bristol (White Sox)
3. Bubba Starling, of, Burlington (Royals)
4. Blake Snell, lhp, Princeton (Rays)
5. Mauricio Cabrera, rhp, Danville (Braves)
6. Luke Sims, rhp, Danville (Braves)
7. Max Kepler, of, Elizabethton (Twins)
8. Roberto Osuna, rhp, Bluefield (Blue Jays)
9. Victor DeLeon, rhp, Johnson City (Cardinals)
10. Santiago Nessy, c, Bluefield (Blue Jays)
11. Brandon Martin, ss, Princeton (Rays).
12. Gavin Cecchini, ss, Kingsport (Mets).
13. Carson Kelly, 3b, Johnson City (Cardinals).
14. Daniel Norris, lhp, Bluefield (Blue Jays).
15. Andrew Toles, of, Princeton (Rays).
16. Patrick Leonard, 3b, Burlington (Royals).
17. Adrian Houser, rhp, Greeneville (Astros).
18. Jose Peraza, ss, Danville (Braves).
19. Jochi Ogando, rhp, Pulaski (Mariners).
20. Cameron Gallagher, c, Burlington (Royals)
05. Mauricio Cabrera, rhp, Danville Braves
Age: 18 B-T: R-R Ht.: 6-2 Wt.: 180 Signed: Dominican Republic, ‘10
Cabrera signed with the Braves for $400,000 in July 2010, then spent a season in the Rookie-level Dominican Summer League prior to joining Danville this year. He bypassed the Rookie-level Gulf Coast League just like Randall Delgado did in 2008. Cabrera’s older brother Alberto made his big league debut with the Cubs in August.
Cabrera’s radar-gun readings alone—he sits at 94 mph and peaks at 96 with his fastball—would cause evaluators to take note. He emerged as the league’s top righty prospect after factoring in his sturdy frame, power arsenal and performance. Cabrera served as the ace of a playoff team and led the Appy League with a .213 opponent average.
Cabrera’s fastball sinks when he stays on top of it, and he generates natural cutting action at other times. He already shows an advanced feel for an above-average changeup, while his low-80s slider occasionally flashes plus and breaks down and in to lefties. A wrist wrap compromises his control of his breaking ball, and his development of the pitch could mean the difference between starting and relieving down the line.
06. Luke Sims, rhp, Danville Braves
Age: 18 B-T: R-R Ht.: 6-2 Wt.: 195 Drafted: Brookwood HS, Snellville, Ga., 2012 (1st round).
In what seemingly used to be an annual rite, the Braves selected a Georgia high school talent with their top pick in June, drafting Sims 21st overall and signing him for $1.65 million. Atlanta hadn’t taken a Peach State product in the first round since Jason Heyward in 2007.
A two-way standout in high school, Sims already throws a 91-92 mph fastball that tops out at 95 and a plus 77-78 mph curveball. His changeup gives him a chance for a third-above average pitch. He struggled with walks and to command his changeup because of what one manager deemed a funky arm action, but most observers believe Sims has the athleticism and desire to work through his mechanical issues and stay in the rotation.
18. Jose Peraza, ss, Danville Braves
Age: 18 B-T: R-R Ht.: 5-11 Wt.: 167 Signed: Venezuela, ‘10.
The Braves signed both Peraza and Mauricio Cabrera on July 2, 2010, and they could team up again at low Class A Rome next season after playing well in the Appy League. A rangy athlete, Peraza began the summer by hitting .318/.348/.424 in 85 Gulf Coast League at-bats prior to joining Danville on July 17.
More of a spray hitter now, Peraza shows the quick bat to hit for gap power and occasional homers as his body matures. A plus runner, he stole 25 bases in 30 tries between his two stops. He’s an excellent bunter and baserunner.
Peraza played in just 17 games at shortstop for Danville, but in that time he outdistanced the field in rate measures such as assists (3.7), double plays (0.8) and total chances (5.5) per game. While he offers above-average range, his tendency to push throws concerned at least one league manager.
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
1:50 pm
anyone seen VEGAS? looks promising, on my DVR schedule
Quaid beat up four guys in one fight, in the first six minutes of the show, followed by a Carrie-Anne Moss sighting. Good enough for me.
Fols
September 26th, 2012
1:50 pm
I need to start a new series……Breaking Bad or Mad Men? first show to get 5 votes…i’m going with it….I trust you people, not with my life, but for little stuff like this…hell yes…I do.
cricket
September 26th, 2012
1:50 pm
it’s been explained to you by several people on this blog (including CR), and it doesn’t seem to satisfy you. Why? ..usnavyvolfaninva
check following highlighted from DOB’s 1:44, that explains it
Thankfully, we don’t run into that degree of OCD very often, or blogging might fall out of favor.
MFin04
September 26th, 2012
1:51 pm
Breaking Bad or Mad Men? Breaking Bad!
cricket
September 26th, 2012
1:51 pm
Fols – Breaking Bad
cricket
September 26th, 2012
1:52 pm
darn it, muffin man said Breaking Bad – forces efrim to vote for Mad Men
Fols
September 26th, 2012
1:52 pm
ugh oh 2-0?
Fols
September 26th, 2012
1:55 pm
Someone in this very blog told me to hit the Vortex for a burger…..so I flew across the country to Atlanta last summer and not only did I have a Vortex burger, it was sloppy and delicious so I bought myself a Vortex t-shirt on my way out.
I cannot for the life of me remember who pushed me to try it….
CB
September 26th, 2012
1:55 pm
I would say that most of us do really appreciate what we have here on DOB site,especially the older ones who lived at a time when all we had to follow our favorite teams were transistor radios and box scores in newspapers. Only an idiot would be ungrateful for what we have here and the work that DOB puts in,also Carroll. Until I came here I didn’t know what I was missing.
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
1:55 pm
A wrist wrap compromises his control of his breaking ball
scoots, can you explain what that means with regard to Cabrera?
MFin04
September 26th, 2012
1:55 pm
Ozzie G. on Heath Bell
“It was my turn this week. Last week, it was the pitching coach. The week before, it was his teammates. Every week it’s something. That’s why I don’t respect him as a person. You have to have principles.”
Can’t wait for Ozzie’s book of principles soon to hit book stores. Foreward by Bobby Knight and Bobby Valentine
phil
September 26th, 2012
1:55 pm
LOL at DOB!
I personally find the obsession with David’s off days to be funny, mostly because these guys can’t ever seem to get it, even when he explains it so often.
Of course, the obsession that some have with negative posters is also entertaining and seldom explored in detail.
Then we have the group that’s obsessed with keeping everything wine and roses and who then quit posting and pout for days or weeks elsewhere when they obviously don’t get their way.
Then there’s the nostalgia bunch who remembers a blogging time of perfection way back when, 5 years ago….
And of course, we have the ones today who all just knew that we would win last night, who just knew that last year’s collapse would be reversed this year and so on and so forth. Why? Positive thinking, naturally!
I enjoy it all here, mostly. This blog is a great collection of all kinds. Good stuff. Intelligent to moronic and everywhere in between.
George_George
September 26th, 2012
1:56 pm
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
1:46 pm
David O’Brien @ 1:37 pm
Now,see, I appreciate that and it didn’t take ACE acting like a dip stick to get O’Brien to weigh in.
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S/O BAT
Before he bans me . I did noy start this today, he did. Wnt you to knope I respect you as a blogger.
UKUGA
September 26th, 2012
1:57 pm
Bobbi Kristina in a car wreck? Details unclear.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
1:57 pm
CB,
Yeah, and the days when you had to wait an extra day to see if they won a game on the west coast, because it would finish after press time on the east coast.
Fols (obsession with nagative posters)
September 26th, 2012
1:57 pm
Well said Phil.
We should each have a category behind our name…i’ll start.
Fols (obsession with nagative posters)
September 26th, 2012
1:59 pm
I still remember when I would watch TV…and there was no scores scrolling on the tickers….oh god. I feel like curling up into a ball and crying myself to sleep right here at my desk!
George_George
September 26th, 2012
1:59 pm
Not start* ment to say
Efrim
September 26th, 2012
2:00 pm
Hudson is going to be 38 years old next July. Maholm is signed for one year. Yes, we have Medlen and Minor at the major league level with Beachy being 100% in April of 2014. But this team needs to start thinking about acquiring a controllable frontline starter – because they are going to eventually need it and there is nothing wrong with making a good rotation better. And for the folks that say “at what cost?” – the same cost it always is to acquire impact players – a hell of a lot. I’m willing given the state of our farm system.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 26th, 2012
2:01 pm
Fols,
LMAO…you’re killing me!
ncscoots
September 26th, 2012
2:02 pm
can you explain what that means with regard to Cabrera?
Remember how Kent Mercker used to curl his wrist behind his back during his windup? Getting the wrist bent and cocked like that creates tension, and that can cause control problems. You can often throw a better curve with the wrist wrapped, and that’s how some guys get in the habit of it.
Bat Masterson
September 26th, 2012
2:04 pm
Gracias, George
CB
September 26th, 2012
2:05 pm