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Peter
September 22nd, 2012
10:54 am
Braves fans, serious question here:
If you can afford to go to only one, Chipper’s ceremony or Wild Card game, which do you choose?
DAP
September 22nd, 2012
10:56 am
not really what i WANT to happen, but what i really expect this offseason, does not include adding pitching. i think wren will go with what he has in the rotation, while trading hanson, and trying to get a really athletic outfield. i think at least one of those outfielders is going to be a fairly big name. also, i think prado and heyward get extensions.
Lew
September 22nd, 2012
10:58 am
Peter – Wild Card game will be televised and it’s quite probable there will be more playoff games – if not this year, then in the fuiture. Only one time CHipper will be honored before his retirement. I’d go to see it.
DAp – Then what you’re saying is that Hanson actually DOES have a fair amount of value? In which case, they should keep him at the price he’ll command in abr.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 22nd, 2012
11:02 am
Lew: You’re somewhat correct. Hanson had a good April and a good June to propel him to those decent numbers. However his May, July, August, and now September have all been putrid. As for him being hurt last year, that’s another risk.
As with JJ, he’s had 2 consecutive poor 2nd half. Last year he was hurt and only made 5 starts (and had an 8.10 ERA) and this year he’s pitched poorly again in the 2nd half. He was on the DL earlier, but you have to wonder, is this guy injured? In 2009 and 2010 when he was healthy, he pitched better than this.
Jeff R
September 22nd, 2012
11:03 am
I’m in favor of the one-gamer, after much reflection. Back in the day, if you didn’t win your division, you sat out the post-season. Think about SF winning 100+ and missing the playoffs.
Further back (pre-1969), if a team didn’t win its league it didn’t make it to the World Series.
Checkout some of the records of second, even third, place finishers prior to 1969.
Peter
September 22nd, 2012
11:05 am
Thanks for the advice Lew,
Here is the question again, because it will never get read on the bottom of the previous page:
Braves fans, serious question here:
If you can afford to go to only one, Chipper’s ceremony or Wild Card game, which do you choose?
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 22nd, 2012
11:07 am
Chipper Ceremony. You can see the WC game anywhere, and there likely will be more playoff games. They’re only doing that ceremony 1 time.
DAP
September 22nd, 2012
11:07 am
lew Then what you’re saying is that Hanson actually DOES have a fair amount of value? In which case, they should keep him at the price he’ll command in abr.
uh…yeah. what did you think i was saying?
chipontheroad
September 22nd, 2012
11:08 am
Lew you are somewhat correct how does that feel to not be mostly correct or almost totally correct like some of these other people?
DAP
September 22nd, 2012
11:09 am
Further back (pre-1969), if a team didn’t win its league it didn’t make it to the World Series.
thats true now, jeff.
David O'Brien
September 22nd, 2012
11:11 am
Against Roy Halladay, Chipper is 10-for-20 with three homers, Freddie Freeman is 6-for-14 with two homers, and Dan Uggla is 11-for-33 with three homers.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 22nd, 2012
11:13 am
We have HALLIDAY’s number and intend to dial it this afternoon.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 22nd, 2012
11:17 am
My thinking on JURRJENS is that his knees continue to limit his ability to pitch effectively.
In HANSON’s case, it seems to be an equal division between shoulder problems and technique coupled with attitude.
Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 22nd, 2012
11:18 am
But I’m just guessing here. I don’t personally know either of the young men. How about someone who does sounding off. What’s wrong with these guys?
Jeff R
September 22nd, 2012
11:20 am
DAP, yes. Let me clarify. Pre-1969, only one team per league made it to the post season. The post season was the World Series. Plenty of teams with 90+ wins got to sit home after the last day of the regular season!
Trader Jack
September 22nd, 2012
11:21 am
lew
You’re the blog’s resident artist, what do you know about Dick Perez the artist who did the Chipper oil portrait?
PDOG
September 22nd, 2012
11:27 am
Hansons trade value is going down that is why he needs to be packaged with Malhom to bring back a decent position player. I still think the trade that needs to be made is Hanson and Malhom for Cain of KC.
David O'Brien
September 22nd, 2012
11:42 am
Roy Halladay is 4-2 with a 3.38 ERA in 10 career starts against the Braves. But he’s 0-2 with a 5.81 ERA and .302 opponents’ average in five starts against them over the past two seasons, including 0-1 with an 8.44 ERA and .352 opponents’ average in three this season.
David O'Brien
September 22nd, 2012
11:46 am
Today’s starter Mike Minor is 5-4 with a 2.32 ERA, .203 opponents’ average and seven homers allowed in his past 13 starts (10 quality starts), after going 4-6 with a 6.20 ERA, .271 opponents’ average and 18 homers allowed in his first 15 starts (four quality starts).
The Braves have scored one or no runs while he’s been in the game seven times in his past 13 starts, including no runs while he was in each of his losses during that period.
Venice Jim
September 22nd, 2012
11:52 am
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
From Justin Havens of ESPN S&I, lowest fielding-independent ERA in single seasons:Gagne,’03,0.86; Kimbrel, ‘12, 0.90. Mathewson, 1908, 1.26.
kenhotlanta
September 22nd, 2012
11:59 am
Dick Perez has produced many high quality baseball card sets in the last 30 years based on his paintings. The Hall of Fame Postcard set and the Baseball Immortals are massive sets of beautiful artwork featuring the greats of the game.
They were released in several series over time with matching serial numbers, complete sets are very rare and very desirable, but it’s the Autograph cards that get the most attention because of their scarcity.
These are high quality little works of art and look great framed.
Efrim
September 22nd, 2012
12:06 pm
Jason Heyward since August 27th: 228/.258/.380 – 23 games, 97 PA’s
Freddie Freeman since August 13th: .207/.327/.388 – 35 games, 147 PA’s
Capt.Mudd
September 22nd, 2012
12:09 pm
Like the fibers woven delicately through imported silk garments…..one might characterize the post-season ‘handling,’ of Mr.Tommy Hanson as ‘delicate work.’
As many are aware, Tommy is in a highly self-critical evaluative phase of his career. The big guy has taken a tumble, which by most accounts, spells liberal–loud and clear. Liberal, not in the political sense….but in a consistently opponent friendly way. You see, Tommy liberally gives batters a nice pitch to drive….his best gifts these days result in homeruns–the opponents are pleased.
It wasn’t always this way for Hanson, having come up in the Braves farm system as a kid throwing ’smoke.’ But days lead to starts and starts lead to decisions—in the beginning, for him, those W/L decisions were very good. However, in his current pitching state, ‘good’ is not enough.
With the possibility of post-season play looming for the Braves; the starting piching must be very good to great for us to have a chance…..have a great winter, Tommy.
George_George
September 22nd, 2012
12:18 pm
Peter
September 22nd, 2012
11:05 am
CHIPPER’s game. It is a one time thing to hionor a great player, Not the play-in game, we will most likely lose it.
George_George
September 22nd, 2012
12:21 pm
YIPPEY DOB has not BOZOED me yet in his purge of the blog.
Venice Jim
September 22nd, 2012
12:25 pm
Sigh…
chipontheroad
September 22nd, 2012
12:26 pm
sigh_sigh
Jeff R
September 22nd, 2012
12:27 pm
YIPPEY DOB has not BOZOED me yet in his purge of the blog.
You’re breaking my heart, Jorge_Jorge. I thought you weren’t coming back.
coastalbrave
September 22nd, 2012
12:30 pm
Better shape up George and mind your manners
Trader Jack
September 22nd, 2012
12:32 pm
George and this blog are the equivalent of a moth and a light bulb
George_George
September 22nd, 2012
12:32 pm
George_George
September 22nd, 2012
12:18 pm
Peter
September 22nd, 2012
11:05 am
CHIPPER’s game. It is a one time thing to hionor a great player, Not the play-in game, we will most likely lose it.
***************
If the season ended today the BRAVES should not have to play the silly play-in game. We have earned the WC. There should only be ONE WC.
Jeff R
September 22nd, 2012
12:33 pm
Jorge_Jorge, I thought you were standing in solidarity with your weirdo chum, ACE, and leaving the blog? Remember your huffy rant about “freedom of speech?”
ACE is probably waiting for you to play ping-pong in the home’s rec room. Now go – scoot!
Hugo Z Hackenbush
September 22nd, 2012
12:34 pm
Trader Jack, did you say that the payroll floor that Liberty agreed to is no longer in effect? If so, where did you see this?
Jeff R
September 22nd, 2012
12:34 pm
George and this blog are the equivalent of a moth and a light bulb
Nice!
George_George
September 22nd, 2012
12:36 pm
Trader Jack
September 22nd, 2012
12:32 pm
yup DOB is the light bulb.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 22nd, 2012
12:39 pm
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
Heard scouts say a month ago, Nats relievers were being used like Braves relievers last year. Sept. ERAs — Clippard (8.64) Burnett (9.82)
Let’s hope this is their downfall come October. A sweep in the NLDS (assuming we make it there) would be very nice.
coastalbrave
September 22nd, 2012
12:39 pm
Now see George, that is what gets you in trouble. Constantly stalking DOB. Why can’t you just shape up and enjoy the blog and leave DOB alone?
Jeff R
September 22nd, 2012
12:42 pm
yup DOB is the light bulb.
– Jorge_Jorge
From the mouth of babes and loons the truth is spoken. You, of course, fall into the latter category.
Venice Jim
September 22nd, 2012
12:44 pm
A sweep in the NLDS (assuming we make it there) would be very nice
Nats might not have the best record – 1/2 a game ahead of Reds and 3 1/2 ahead of Giants…
“I haven’t put much thought in that,” Johnson said. “It may be even better to be the No. 2.”
Johnson has one point. Both top seeds will open on the road due to a one-year postseason scheduling quirk. While the second seed will at least know its destination on the day the season ends, the top seed must wait for the outcome of the play-in, then travel to start a playoff series two days later.
Trader Jack
September 22nd, 2012
12:47 pm
Hugo Z Hackenbush
September 22nd, 2012
12:34 pm
Trader Jack, did you say that the payroll floor that Liberty agreed to is no longer in effect? If so, where did you see this?
It was a five year covenant written into the sale agreement, which expires this year. In essence, Liberty Media is free to do as they wish regarding payroll
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 22nd, 2012
12:47 pm
ah yes, the Reds. Forgot about them… how are there bullpen guys holding up? I mean, Dusty Baker’s the manager…
chipontheroad
September 22nd, 2012
12:51 pm
Dusty Baker has forgotten more about baseball than some people will ever know
Trader Jack
September 22nd, 2012
12:53 pm
Actually Clippard’s era for sept is now 9.07, with I believe 4 blown saves. If Davey johnson has any smarts, he’ll rest both Clippard and Burnett, and use Gorzelanny more and put Storen back in the closer role
Venice Jim
September 22nd, 2012
1:00 pm
Chapman hasn’t pitched in almost 2 weeks, so hard to say right now…
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
1:13 pm
Hope Mr Baker is doing okay. He’s a great manager. He has the Reds playing some damn good ball.
Sure would’ve helped if Tyler Clippard had started his meltdown a bit sooner. Oh, well.
Hope the Bravos can pull one out today. Just 11 more to go until the playoffs!
Hugo Z Hackenbush
September 22nd, 2012
1:14 pm
TJ, I asked because I had never seen a specific reference to the payroll agreement, only to the expiration of the period in which they couldn’t sell the team, which has come this year.
Venice Jim
September 22nd, 2012
1:14 pm
Same lineup as yesterday (except for Minor)…
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
1:14 pm
I’m a little surprised that the Nat’s fandom hasn’t caught on here. I guess this is still traditionally a Baltimore market. The AAA team here is an Orioles affiliate, but there’s plenty of Nat’s merchandise on display, and not a whole lot are buying.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
1:15 pm
George…
are you DARING him to? Doesn’t seem too smart.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
1:16 pm
Hello VJ….crossing my fingers that my Vernon Davis trade for my fantasy team comes through.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
September 22nd, 2012
1:18 pm
As far as the one game stupidity, I agree because to play the 162 game grind and have it all come down to a coin flip really sucks.
As it is, I’m rooting for the Cardinals. Those Brewers are trouble if they get into the post season and they have a habit of kicking our butts.
Venice Jim
September 22nd, 2012
1:19 pm
cab’s the Niners’ fan – my team won Thursday (I suppose the Niners rank 3rd on my rooting list after the NYFG and the Falcons)…
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
1:19 pm
VJ…sorry, I presumed too much. Yeah, that one hurt, as I had DeAngelo Williams starting.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
1:20 pm
And what the heck are the G-men doing winning like that? It ain’t December yet! LOL
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
1:20 pm
We have a split house, too…my wife likes the Cowboys, and I like the Dolphins.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
1:22 pm
I dunno, coach…I’m kind of hoping the return of Dan CArpenter doesn’t give them some sort of psychological boost like I think it will.
chipontheroad
September 22nd, 2012
1:23 pm
The power of the tweet . Stop the manipulation of natural order of things with you’re majic tweets dude
Trader Jack
September 22nd, 2012
1:28 pm
usnavyvolfaninva
There really isn’t a hard core fan base for the Nats – yet. If you understand the DC market, you’ll know why
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
1:30 pm
TJ,
I don’t. I’m just guessing it’s because the birds were here first. In the NFL, it’s quite the opposite. Don’t see nearly as much Ravens stuff as you do Redskins. Actually, the Cowboys of all teams have a pretty big following here (including my aforementioned “better half”)
Venice Jim
September 22nd, 2012
1:32 pm
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
#Braves will align rotation so that Medlen on pace to start Wild Card game, Hudson game 1 of division series.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
1:32 pm
It may also be because after 7 years, the folks still haven’t been convinced that the ‘Nats are little more than the Expos version 2.0. They may catch on in a year or two. I’m quite happy for them, it just sucks they’re in our division.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
1:33 pm
VJ,
That’s awesome… now maybe people will stop doubting that FG actually has a brain.
Venice Jim
September 22nd, 2012
1:33 pm
That will ruin the day of everyone who was preparing to pre-bash Fredi once more for even pretending to think otherwise…
Venice Jim
September 22nd, 2012
1:34 pm
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
#Braves Simmons out of lineup 1 more day, expected to play tomorrow. Team being cautious w/ shoulder.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
1:34 pm
Well…let’s see if we can spin it….if K-Med (God forbid) show’s he’s actually mortal, then the template will be “Fredi should’ve started Hudson because he’s a veteran with more playoff experience…” I mean, I ACTUALLY SEE this happening.
Trader Jack
September 22nd, 2012
1:35 pm
usnavyvolfaninva
Are you in the DC market or Hampton Roads/Tidewater?
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
1:35 pm
See, I’ve trained myself to think like a “hater”
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
1:35 pm
TJ,
Hampton Roads.
chipontheroad
September 22nd, 2012
1:36 pm
Now that was a powerful tweet Medlen and Kimbrel are awesome and our line-up if reenergized could make this run one for the ages
Venice Jim
September 22nd, 2012
1:36 pm
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
#Braves Medlen and Maholm will flip-flop, w/ Medlen starting Tues. to put him on 5-day schedule to start wild-card play-in game.
Venice Jim
September 22nd, 2012
1:37 pm
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
#Braves Chipper likely to have rest day Sunday, McCann might also.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
1:39 pm
VJ,
I can’t believe he’s resting Chipper and McCAnn!! on the SAME DAY! Fire Fredi! LOL
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
1:40 pm
NOt for nothing, they DO need to starting hitting with RISP. That whole last in the NL thing is getting old.
Venice Jim
September 22nd, 2012
1:42 pm
Rory fails to reach the green from the rough 15 yards off the green…
ouch…
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
1:43 pm
VJ,
golfing fan, too? You’re so well-rounded!
Venice Jim
September 22nd, 2012
1:44 pm
That’s the one sport cab has learned to tolerate watching with me around…
Venice Jim
September 22nd, 2012
1:45 pm
As she prepares to head off to the USC-Cal game, and I don’t prepare for three hours of work this afternoon…
DiamondbackMac
September 22nd, 2012
1:46 pm
usnavyvolfaninva
VJ,
You’re so well-rounded!
You trying to say that VJ is fat?
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
1:46 pm
HA! THat’s when you know you’ve got a keeper! LOL. My wife “caught” me watching golf one time and threw a huge fit.
Venice Jim
September 22nd, 2012
1:47 pm
That is one thing I have never been accused of…
Venice Jim
September 22nd, 2012
1:48 pm
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
fredi has stopped pretending he might start someone besides medlen in 1 game playoff
Venice Jim
September 22nd, 2012
1:49 pm
She is a non-stop tennis watcher during a major, while I am normally happy waiting until the quarters to watch the ends of some of the matches…
Philly Phanatic
September 22nd, 2012
1:59 pm
Be honest. The consensus among baseball purists has to be that a 1 game playoff for a ream that may end up with a better record than the Giants (Atlanta) who roll right into a best of 5 is such a glaring travesty and I’m from as long shot a team as those in the hunt. We blew it big time losing 3 outta 4 to the Astros. Who would you want to play in the 1 games series if it turns out that way.(St. Louis, Milwwaukee, LA , or Philadelpia? I’m sure you’ll all say Philly since it’s me asking. Be Honest.
George_George
September 22nd, 2012
2:00 pm
In repy to those posts between 12:25 and 12:42 . I did not know so many of you disliked me so much. Are you saying those things to convince DOB to BOZO me? I thought VJ liked some of my posts. Anyway ACE and Brava like me and nolie and Lew do at times.
Trader Jack
September 22nd, 2012
2:01 pm
Never got into golf, yet the irony is, thru a good friend and business associate, I have a standing invitation at Pine Valley. Have used it on occasion for family and friends – LOL
Venice Jim
September 22nd, 2012
2:03 pm
LA, without having to think…
Venice Jim
September 22nd, 2012
2:03 pm
George – I like you, but your constant need to bash DOB is silly…
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
2:04 pm
I used to watch tennis a lot, VJ. I think I stopped in college. the U.S. has had a pretty bad run, on the men’s side at least.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
2:05 pm
I remember the McEnroe vs Borg matches 3 decades ago. Epic.
George_George
September 22nd, 2012
2:05 pm
CHIPPER should br rested today not Sunday, today is a day after night game and he went 0 for 4 last night. Rest him today , play him tomorrow.
Venice Jim
September 22nd, 2012
2:05 pm
Harper picked off 2nd by a mile, but steals 3rd without it being close…
(he had knocked in Werth for the 1st run)…
chipontheroad
September 22nd, 2012
2:05 pm
Double G I think you are a vital component but D O’B is the cog stop raggin on him it gets oldddddddddddddduuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudddddddddddddddeeeeeeeeeeeeee
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
2:05 pm
George.
It seems like you’re trying to get banned without any help from anyone.
Venice Jim
September 22nd, 2012
2:06 pm
I was a big Johnny Mac fan…
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
2:07 pm
LA, Philly Phanatic.
Venice Jim
September 22nd, 2012
2:08 pm
Cards up 3-0 early…
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
2:08 pm
“ANSWER THE QUESTION, JERK!” Man, that never gets old.
Trader Jack
September 22nd, 2012
2:09 pm
George
You are ok in my book, just give a little thought before you start pounding on the keyboard
usnavyvolfaninva
September 22nd, 2012
2:09 pm
I was a Jennifer Capriati fan until she got into trouble.
George_George
September 22nd, 2012
2:10 pm
S/O VJ
Is USC not playing today? I could not find them anywhere in TV listings.