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Efrim
September 21st, 2012
3:46 pm
I think the Rockies should fire near everyone in their front office as well as the coaching staff and start absolutely fresh. From the start of last offseason to now has been an absolute disaster.
MFin04
September 21st, 2012
3:46 pm
“The worst part is, IF the Braves lose that game, there will sure enough be people all over this thing talking about it being a choke job.”
The choke job is really on the ownership not putting together a team to win the division, but settling for the Wild Card and thus the coin flip game.
They have to realize that this next off-season and put together a more complete team for a 162 game season in order to better compete for the division.
phil
September 21st, 2012
3:46 pm
But that’s just it in Atlanta….
No matter the crowd size, no matter the noise level, no matter anything, we typically get our heads handed to us in those games. Atlanta is best known for its home field disadvantage.
I was at the World Series clincher back in ‘95, and to this day, I still have a hard time believing we won it.
Arkansas Transplant
September 21st, 2012
3:46 pm
tony austin, nope but I’ve shot a 290 without that strike in the first frame. Did it in a tourney actually.
ncgary
September 21st, 2012
3:47 pm
someone did it this year
Puma
September 21st, 2012
3:47 pm
Bat – just look at her, super hot IMO
Bay Area Steve
September 21st, 2012
3:47 pm
“Ever get the feeling we’re not getting the truth on Simmons?”
I’d take it a step further. The Braves give away virtually no information to the public, and are not above outright lies and/or misinformation. (Not unlike seemingly every other corporation/politician/public figure.)
phil
September 21st, 2012
3:47 pm
I don’t think we “settled” for the wildcard.
We just got our butts kicked a few times too many.
Frankie
September 21st, 2012
3:48 pm
Just realized and certainly should take the edge off of some of you worry worts. Frankie was at last game won in playoffs(B Mac deep off Rocket and Smoltzie pitching gem). In the bag baby, bringing home again on the 5th. End of story.
ncgary
September 21st, 2012
3:48 pm
wasnt there a 9 pitch 3 strikeout inning this year?
SNEAKY PETE
September 21st, 2012
3:48 pm
44 pitchers have thrown 9 pitches to strike out the side
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_pitchers_who_have_struck_out_three_batters_on_nine_pitches
Rick C
September 21st, 2012
3:48 pm
“Melky can’t win batting title but Braun can win the MVP? What a joke.”
Whether you think he was guilty or not, he won his appeal.
phil
September 21st, 2012
3:49 pm
BAS – I’m gonna have ta agree with ya 100%….
ncgary – managing ok?
phil
September 21st, 2012
3:50 pm
But Frankie, we won a game in 2010 in San francisco….
Frankie
September 21st, 2012
3:50 pm
BUT this year is different, it’s Chipper time.
Damn sounding like a Cub fan trying to convince there is home field advantage.
ncgary
September 21st, 2012
3:51 pm
little depressed after going to the clinic yesterday
SNEAKY PETE
September 21st, 2012
3:51 pm
wow, that is total glass-emtiness. Phil not only thinks they will always lose but refuses to believe that they actually won the one they won
MFin04
September 21st, 2012
3:51 pm
“Whether you think he was guilty or not, he won his appeal.”
He won his appeal, but the appeal basically admitted to his guilt. Whether the sample was handled correctly or not, doesn’t change the fact that the sample was positive for steroids. Ryan Braun did steroids.
ncgary
September 21st, 2012
3:52 pm
i feel good and my breathing has actually improved , but my lungs are so worn out they could collapse any day
Frankie
September 21st, 2012
3:52 pm
Not a home game Mr Phil.
True story, had tixs for Monday night game after Hinske big moment and eventually meltdown shortly thereafter. Great crowd on that Sunday night and just knew, absolute let down and even if we won no way win in SF against the Freak in Game 5. Blew off game and ate the tixs.
Not this year though.
ncgary
September 21st, 2012
3:52 pm
or i could get that miracle and beat it like i am trying for
Efrim
September 21st, 2012
3:52 pm
Geez, it’s not a shame yet, man, LOL.
As I’ve said before, got a quarter?
phil
September 21st, 2012
3:52 pm
The last time we had Larry time, in 1992, Larry Bird went out with a whisper…..
Chipper has lately hit like an old man….he needs a roid or 2 down the stretch. Who cares at this point!
SNEAKY PETE
September 21st, 2012
3:53 pm
Sorry to hear that Gary. Hope things improve for you if they can.
ncscoots
September 21st, 2012
3:53 pm
Phil not only thinks they will always lose but refuses to believe that they actually won the one they won
phil is hard-core, brother.
Toni
September 21st, 2012
3:53 pm
will someone please tell me what they found out on Janish’s shoulder. They said we would know something Thursday evening. Did I miss it?
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 21st, 2012
3:55 pm
Heads= Braves win, Tails= Cards/Other win
7 Heads, 3 tails. 70% chance that the Braves win
Puma
September 21st, 2012
3:55 pm
Topic from earlier I am bringing up again – poor play by pinch hitters.
I believe this is largely due to the fact that they do not get enough at bats. One thing that Bobby was so good at was getting everyone at bats at least once week, which always seemed to be on a Sunday. Fredi does not do a very good job rotating his bench guys into games to let them see some pitches. Imagine trying to hit a 95 mph fastball after having only 5-6 at bats in last 2 weeks.
ncscoots
September 21st, 2012
3:55 pm
gary, hang tough, bubba.
MFin04
September 21st, 2012
3:55 pm
“Chipper has lately hit like an old man….he needs a roid or 2 down the stretch. Who cares at this point!”
Not the worst idea in the world. He can even have FedEx handle his sample. And if we end up playing the Brewers in a coin-flip game we’ll each have a roided superstar.
ncgary
September 21st, 2012
3:57 pm
thanks pete and phil, im doing all i can but basically no meds help
positive thinking and prayer are all that can help
Frankie
September 21st, 2012
3:57 pm
WHAT if, Tommy Gun gets hammered tonight(out in 4th) and Malholm lays a egg tomorrow. What if, Big Ben comes on and throws 4 good innings. Is Sheets available right now? If he pitches solid in long relief the next 2 weeks can he possibly be a Game 4 guy.
phil
September 21st, 2012
3:57 pm
gary – improved? Well heck! That’s certainly good news. Nah, they won’t go out on you. Keep on keeping on. We’re pulling for you, I assure you.
Ward
September 21st, 2012
3:57 pm
Hllo everyone! Time to beat the Philthies……Last year we watched in frustration as Freeman threw his helmet on the last out. Hanson it’s time, and this time we should watch Howard throw his helmt in frustration. Payback is a bitch, and that’s what I’m looking for tonight……
Ward
September 21st, 2012
3:59 pm
Let me correct – Hello……. I would like nothingmre than thBraves to end the Philties hopes, and dreams tonight.
Frankie
September 21st, 2012
3:59 pm
How can the baseball God’s turn of events leave Chipper hung out to dry and his final game/ A defeat from a lousy play in game??? WON”T HAPPEN!
ncgary
September 21st, 2012
4:00 pm
thanks scoots
breathing tests which measure how much capacity your lungs have
jmart1951
September 21st, 2012
4:01 pm
I dislike the idea of going with 3 starters in a 5 game or 7 game playoff, always have. Particularly in a year like this where there is no noted difference between the 2nd and 4th pitchers. Medlin is a given but Hudson, Maholm and Minor are equally effective. I believe that your best starter or best two starters are more effective on full rest than on short rest. I believe that statement is supported by statiscal data. I also believe that going with 3 starters instead of 4 is a contributing reason of why Atlanta and Cox only won 1 World Series.
phil
September 21st, 2012
4:01 pm
what part of carolina are you in, gary? If you don’t mind saying?
Arkansas Transplant
September 21st, 2012
4:01 pm
Frankie, that’s a lot of “IF”s.. now you have my head hurting.
Ward
September 21st, 2012
4:01 pm
Let me recorrect that! I would like nothing more than the Braves to end the Philthies Hopes, and Dreams. That would be priceless, and yes I typed too fast the first two.
ncgary
September 21st, 2012
4:02 pm
lets sign hunter harvey out of the draft
but his dad scouts for the rockies now
Murph
September 21st, 2012
4:03 pm
Hllo Ward.
ncgary
September 21st, 2012
4:04 pm
lake nowman phil the stock car racing capitol of the world
Frankie
September 21st, 2012
4:04 pm
Sorry AT-
Frankie is SO confident of postive results on October 5th going to wage money. I don’t bet much these days but that is one I have to get aboard with.
Ward
September 21st, 2012
4:04 pm
Hello Murph! Yes that wasn’t a good enterance……
ncgary
September 21st, 2012
4:05 pm
lake norman outside charlotte about 20 minutes
phil
September 21st, 2012
4:05 pm
Now SNEAKY, I said hard time believing it, not that I didn’t….
We did win, right?
CaptainMudd
September 21st, 2012
4:09 pm
I don’t think Philla Stk Sandwiches are available till 5pm, so I’m gonna hang out here on a streetside bench and watch the ‘Brotherly Love’ flourish!
Bat Masterson
September 21st, 2012
4:09 pm
Bat – just look at her, super hot IMO _ Puma
I know man, but its he business channel for crying out loud. Kills me, just really does. She freakin’ pouts when someone tries to tell her something that goes against her talking points. POUTS
LALALA I can’t hear you lalalala nonono…yada,yada, yada …..what does demand have to do with hiring lalalla
Ward
September 21st, 2012
4:10 pm
I would like Swisher, and Bourn to be signed, because I don’t trust Greinke, and would settle for B.J. Upton if not Swisher?
Murph
September 21st, 2012
4:10 pm
It’s alright Ward, you made up for it with your correction.
Little humor….
phil
September 21st, 2012
4:10 pm
Stewart fan, gary? Newman?
Arkansas Transplant
September 21st, 2012
4:10 pm
I’ve got a good feeling Hanson goes 6.1 tonight and we win 4 to 2.
O.M.G.
September 21st, 2012
4:14 pm
ncgary, will add you to my pray list along with Rich’s wife. It is working for her and it will work for you.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 21st, 2012
4:14 pm
I’m putting Hanson down for 6IP, 1 ER. He’s gonna cool off those Phillies bats. 7Ks, 2BBs. He’s been decent in September, I’ll bet he continues that tonight.
Ward
September 21st, 2012
4:14 pm
We could sure use a good start for Hanson. This is the time…..
Frankie
September 21st, 2012
4:15 pm
“I’ve got a good feeling Hanson goes 6.1 tonight and we win 4 to 2.”
Now your talking. Not sure on any of it but would like to see some runs scored(6 or 7 will work). Not sure this lineup is capable of providing though.
CaptainMudd
September 21st, 2012
4:16 pm
@Bat…..She’s pouting because she heard the ‘closing bell?’
Ward
September 21st, 2012
4:17 pm
I’m going to say Hanson is due, and he needs to go 7 minnngs tonight to blanket the Philthies.
Philly Phanatic
September 21st, 2012
4:17 pm
Face facts, you guys got screwed this year. Last year you’re on the verge do a best of 5 series. This year you’re in all likelihood going to have a 1 game series with the Cardinals. Not fair. This extra Wildcard yea it brings more teams in the hunt as the season winds down but the Braves who just may end up with a better record than the Giants have to sweat out a 1 game series where anything at all can happen. Your beat bet and that ain’t happening is get the Phil’s out of the race so when they play Washington the scrubbies will be playing. Beat out the Nats or you’ll be going home even though you’re already there after one game. Face facts. the Phillies dictated your last years choke of the century and this year will play a big roll. Everybody’s talking about HowRd having a bad year. He’s got 53 RBI’s with 237 at bats. The leader Braun has 105 with 549 at bats. And Howie kills the Braves. I’d be stunned if the Phil’s don’t sweep. Last series was a whitewash but for one swing and why they pitched to Egomaniac with Freeman waiting to whiff still has Philly fans pissed at Charlie Baby. Expect an )electric sold out ( that’s when all of the seats are filled) which I know you have a good half dozen
When we have all but 2 games and only had 42,000 instead do 42,500. The Phil’s are in the Braves heads since we had them golfing the morning after the sweep to put a stamp on one of if not the biggest choke job in baseball history.
Bat Masterson
September 21st, 2012
4:18 pm
or i could get that miracle and beat it like i am trying for _ ncgary
Hope so, ncgary. What ever good karma I can send your way, well, its done.
Frankie
September 21st, 2012
4:18 pm
She’s got pouty lips.
Love the Money Honey.
Hillbilly
September 21st, 2012
4:19 pm
Believe it or not, the Braves actually get to PLAY in that wild card game. Get to use gloves, swing bats, use 9 players and everything. The other team gets eliminated with a loss too.
It ain’t too late to take a deep breath and throw yourself into it with everything you’ve got…It’s great to be alive.
Bat Masterson
September 21st, 2012
4:19 pm
@Bat…..She’s pouting because she heard the ‘closing bell?’
Could be, Capt. Could be
MFin04
September 21st, 2012
4:20 pm
Hanson 5 2/3 IP, 6ERs, 3 HRs.
Murph
September 21st, 2012
4:20 pm
I don’t think Hanson will get out of the 3rd inning… but the Braves will win anyways.
ChipperIsGod
September 21st, 2012
4:20 pm
Kimbrel’s statistics are terrifying. He is the best closer we’ve had since Smoltz, and might be better than him as a closer. The only question is, is when the game is on the line in a potential elimination or playoff scenario can he succeed?
He let the pressure get to him in 2010. He let it get to him in 2011, how about this year? I think he gets over the hurdle and obliterates the competition. He wants this, he’s the hungriest I’ve ever seen him pitch in his career. He won’t be rattled or frustrated like he was against Philly last year. No, this time Kimbrel is out for blood in the form of strikeouts.
This is still going to be a really tough series. Phillies are playing well, let’s hope the bats are successful again against Kendrick, hopefully Tommy can keep improving. Let’s take care of business the rest of the season. Just win series, that’s all we’ve got to do. Sweeps are preferable, but let’s win some series instead.
OnlyBravesFan, I think it might be wise to start Minor in game one as he has been very shut down lately, and Huddy has been inconsistent. Let’s hope that he regains it because if Minor Huddy and Medlen are rolling on all cylinders, that’s a very good three man rotation for a five game set. And if Maholm can improve like did this week, that’ll be big, too.
Tommy shouldn’t be on the postseason roster. Easily the weakest pitcher, and despite him doing somewhat better, he can’t go deep and his slider and curve ball hang way too much. Tommy, do not throw your sliders to any more left handers! It’s getting destroyed!
Go Braves!
P-Town Brave ©
September 21st, 2012
4:20 pm
AT-
Not sure if you’re still around, but I had to go to lunch….
Just read what you said and frankly, I think I’d throw Minor out there in Gm1 against the Nats if thats who we would play and I’d throw Maholm in a Gm4…he has been good enough to win more times than not and has made over 50% quality starts as a Brave….
The reason I would go w/ Minor in Gm1 is that would allow him to go 2 games if it went all 5 and I’d prefer that or Tim “I get hit hard by quality teams this year” Hudson….
Huddy is 0-2 in 3 starts against the Nats with an ERA approaching 8….yeah you heard me, EIGHT….
I understand the concept of the veteran and the guy who has been to the postseason before, but what happened to BETTER….and just pitching the guy who has been BETTER….Minor has been that since the beginning of July…
If you look at the 15 starts Huddy has made against teams still alive for playoff contention(leaving out PIT and SD), he has pitched to a tune of a 4.50 ERA…not bad, but also not a #1/2 starter….
Mike Minor since July 1 has 10 QS of 13 total starts….he has been about as money as you can get without being Kris Medlen good.
He would be the Game 1 starter if I were the manager….
But alas, the Braves are about rewarding based on loyalty, NOT trying to win games….
Ward
September 21st, 2012
4:21 pm
Look eveybody! The Philly Phanatic shows up, after being missing in action for the whole season……Tell us your story.
ncscoots
September 21st, 2012
4:21 pm
It ain’t too late to take a deep breath and throw yourself into it with everything you’ve got…It’s great to be alive.
Hillbilly and I don’t go huntin’ just to see the wildlife.
Frankie
September 21st, 2012
4:22 pm
Freeman needs to go yard this weekend. Saying two jacks tonight, one opposite field(a la Howard) and one titantic shot like against Doc as rook back in 2010.
Ward
September 21st, 2012
4:23 pm
Get ready for the Philly Fans! They will come out of the closet……little humor.
Frankie
September 21st, 2012
4:24 pm
“But alas, the Braves are about rewarding based on loyalty, NOT trying to win games….”
oooyyy.
MFin04
September 21st, 2012
4:25 pm
I’m fine with throwing Tim Hudson in the play-in game or game 1 of the 1st series. The guy just has the makeup to win big games and I believe in his ability to do.
Hillbilly
September 21st, 2012
4:25 pm
That’s right, scoots. I go hunting with an empty stomach and bad intentions. When that deer walks out I see it as one of God’s beautiful creatures for a few seconds, and then as a bowl of chili from there on out.
Ward
September 21st, 2012
4:26 pm
We need a huge game from Freeman, Uggla, and Mac……..Braves need to make a statement to the Philthies.
MFin04
September 21st, 2012
4:27 pm
“Braves need to make a statement”
Which is what? We’re a lock for the playoffs and you guys are missing the playoffs for the first time in forever!?!
ChipperIsGod
September 21st, 2012
4:27 pm
So much for that big payroll of yours, philly Phanatic. All that money and only what, 2 games over 500? 160 million well spent. Despite the Phillies playing well recently, they’ve dug themselves far too big of a hole losing three of four to the Astros? Wow. Your reign of dominance is over, your players are old, your bullpen is terrible, and we will end your playoff “hopes” this weekend. And despite the fact you won the last series, Chipper sent you home with your tail between your legs, and he’s going to do it again.
You’re our whipping boys now.
ncscoots
September 21st, 2012
4:28 pm
I go hunting with an empty stomach and bad intentions.
And that’s exactly how a good baseball team hits the field at crunch time. Posters here could take a cue from that.
Ward
September 21st, 2012
4:29 pm
All, have a good one! Talk tonight after the game. Might have to take some typing lessons from V.J. little humor……Be tough, and hang in there. Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 21st, 2012
4:32 pm
Geez, Mfin, so harsh on Tommy! I’m much kinder than that, how do I get lumped in with him?
Efrim
September 21st, 2012
4:32 pm
Believe it or not, the Braves actually get to PLAY in that wild card game. Get to use gloves, swing bats, use 9 players and everything. The other team gets eliminated with a loss too.
Yup, and those Cards fans on the other side of the glass are saying the same things. One. Stupid. Friggin. Game.
Give me more of a sample and I can believe, HB.
Murph
September 21st, 2012
4:33 pm
And that’s exactly how a good baseball team hits the field at crunch time. Posters here could take a cue from that.
I sometimes post while thirsty.
ncscoots
September 21st, 2012
4:33 pm
Braves need to make a statement to the Philthies.
The Phightens are just another team from whom the Braves have to win some games. No different than the remaining teams on the schedule. The only statement to make to the Phillies is “see ya next year”, when they leave Sunday.
P-Town Brave ©
September 21st, 2012
4:33 pm
ChipperisGod-
In all fairness to Craig, I was there when the first hammer flew in STL when we started to REALLY blow the WC lead and got swept…
Craig came out in the 1st game on Friday and didn’t have his best stuff, BUT there were two outs and Pujols was up and he was overmatched clear as day on the first fastball….
The smart money says to guard the lines and bunch the gaps and leave the middle open…..I even said as much at the park in MUCH more colorful language about Freeman being off the line….
And then Pujols hits one off the end of the bat and shoots it down the RF line past Freeman and that was that…..2 walks, 2 hits, but the biggest mistake was not guarding the line from in the dugout…and they ended up walking off the next inning behind the usual Fredi pitches awful pitcher A (Scott Linebrink) to end the game…
In fact, given I recall the game like it was yesterday, the 1st hit of the inning to Schumacher never should have happened either….Craig was pitching hard as usual yet we had Bourn positioned in RCF…
Its amazing the things I have forgotten over the years, but the games (especially the bad ones) stay with me forever
Venice Jim
September 21st, 2012
4:34 pm
Typing most assuredly not a specialty…
Efrim
September 21st, 2012
4:34 pm
I guess I don’t see baseball the way I see my 49ers play. I truly believe that on any given day, one lousy pitcher an shut down an offense.
So with that said, find me a nice, shiny Sacagawea.
Efrim
September 21st, 2012
4:36 pm
That should read: One lousy pitcher can shut down any offense, no matter how friggin good they are.
And given how we just needed to make that 2nd place team pay dearly…..I think it’s really up in the air – ya know, 7 times moreso than usual.
ncscoots
September 21st, 2012
4:37 pm
One. Stupid. Friggin. Game.
Scroom.
Winner take all. Go big or go home. Every inning high-leverage. Show your belly and offer the other guy the knife. Damn, I LOVE this game!
Bay Area Steve
September 21st, 2012
4:37 pm
“how do I get lumped in with him?”
You, like us all, could use some self-awareness. You typically, as a kid, post more than anyone else here. Your biggest topics, by far, are Hanson and Grienke. None of the Hanson stuff is positive. Maybe you’re not as negative as MFin, but you more than make up the difference in quantity.
(Though, less so, since some of us started ragging you for it.)
Efrim
September 21st, 2012
4:37 pm
Ugh. 7 times less so.
Good god, you all know what I’m getting at.
Frankie
September 21st, 2012
4:38 pm
I recall that game in St Louie as well, Friday night game. 7 game lead would have been 8 I believe
I also recall a couple of bad walks(one to Furcal with 0-2 count maybe) and his control was a issue
Arkansas Transplant
September 21st, 2012
4:39 pm
P-T, I’m not sure who’d I go with in the one game shot right now, although Medlen looks to be the best option as long as he’s not coming back to pitch on short rest. Our rotation has been too good at times and I don’t see anything good coming out of short rest. I would only advise whoever gets the call to pitch that one game, Fredi had better have someone warming up in that first inning. It seems if we’re going to get rocked it always happens in the first so I’d have someone ready asap to go if it looked like whoever started doesn’t have thier stuff. And, it doesn’t take long to figure that out either and so many times the changes come too late in my opinion.
Heisenberg
September 21st, 2012
4:39 pm
P-Town Brave ©, I remember that Pujols hit. It bounced a 1000 times seemingly in slow motion. Maybe it would have felt better if he had crushed it. That is how he will tell the story to his grandchildren.
Efrim
September 21st, 2012
4:40 pm
I guess I just don’t see the point in continuously ragging on one player – and I mean with all seriousness – not naming someone “Polished” or “Signable” – I mean, that’s perfectly all right…….
Frankie
September 21st, 2012
4:40 pm
Cards holding on against Cubbies. Phils breathing but not getting easier.
Bat Masterson
September 21st, 2012
4:40 pm
I go hunting with an empty stomach and bad intentions.
I want Hillbilly on my side in a fight.
P-Town Brave ©
September 21st, 2012
4:41 pm
Fin-
Says WHO?!
Hudson is one of the main reasons the A’s never won big when he was there….always good regular season numbers, never lived up to it come postseason…
Sound like something you’ve heard before?
Plus he gets OWNED by the Cards and Nats like he’s their personal b*tch!
Shall I go to the stats again for 2012? :
0-2 in 4 starts w/ a 7.78 ERA against the Cards and Nats and if not for the 6 runs of support for him (incl 10 in game against STL) we would have lost all 4 of those…
Medlen should be a clear cut choice for the play-in and Minor should be much closer than people think for Game 1….
Hudson is the choice for people who either a) don’t want to think about the decision or b) don’t actually comprehend his year against these teams
IF he had a 4 or even 5 ERA I might think differently, but both teams hit hit around the yard like he was Kenshin Kawakami in a Hudson uni.
P-Town Brave ©
September 21st, 2012
4:42 pm
AT-
No doubt in my mind whatsoever….Meds is THE guy!
Also, I expect the rotation to be shuffled by that point to where Medlen may even pitch the home finale Sunday if we clinch a spot early next week.