Hanson gives up 5 runs, 3 HRs in Braves’ loss to Phillies

PHILADELPHIA – Whatever likelihood there was of Tommy Hanson appearing in a Braves postseason starting rotation, lately it appears diminished with each successive outing by the stalled right-hander.

Hanson allowed three homers and five runs in 5 1/3 innings of a 6-2 loss to the Phillies in Friday’s series opener at Citizens Bank Park, leaving him winless in seven starts including six in a row in which he’s pitched fewer than six innings.

“I feel like I’m battling my [rear[ off to help my teammates out and to help my team win, and as of right now I’m not doing a very good job," said Hanson, who is 0-4 with a 5.06 ERA in his past seven starts. "It was a horse[bleep] day. I’m not pulling  my weight around here right now.”

The Phillies got consecutive fourth-inning homers from Ryan Howard and Carlos Ruiz to take a 4-1 lead and cruised to their 16th win in 21 games. They have an eight-game home winning streak and kept alive their faint wild-card hopes alive — the Phillies are three games behind St. Louis, which is second in the National League wild-card standings.

The Braves hoped to clinch a wild-card berth as soon as this weekend, but their “magic number” remained at five after their second loss in three games. They still have a six-game lead over the Cardinals in the wild-card standings with 11 games to play.

Atlanta remained 5-1/2 games behind Washington in the NL East after the Nationals blew a late lead and lost 4-2 to Milwaukee.

“We’ve got enough stress going on on the field, the last thing you’re worried about is whether Milwaukee is beating Washington right now,” said Braves first baseman Freddie Freeman, who was asked about scoreboard watching. “We’ve got to take care of our business. If we don’t take care of our business, it doesn’t really matter what’s going on behind us on the scoreboard.

“So that’s the main goal. You’ve got to win games. If you don’t win games, it doesn’t matter what’s going on on the scoreboard.”

Hanson (12-9) has allowed 21 earned runs and 41 hits (seven homers) in 37 1/3 innings over his past seven starts, and manager Fredi Gonzalez was non-commital about Hanson’s rotation plans going forward for the remainder of the regular season.

“Well, we’ll see where we’re at,” Gonzalez said, “but he’s one of our guys. Why not? Let him start…. But we’ll see where we’re at. We’ll take it game-by-game as far as getting to that. What have we got, six days before we get to that spot again? We’ll see where we are.”

Hanson gave up a triple to Juan Pierre off the right-center wall in the first inning, missing a homer by about a foot. Pierre, who has only only one homer this season and five in the past six seasons, scored on Chase Utley’s groundout for a 1-0 lead.

After the Braves answerd with a run in the second —  Freeman had a leadoff walk and Dan Uggla doubled before Brian McCann’s RBI ground out — Hanson gave up a homer to No. 8 hitter Kevin Frandsen in the third inning to put the Phillies ahead to stay. It was Frandsen’s second homer of the season.

Hanson gave up consecutive homers in the fourth inning to a couple of Phillies more accustomed to hitting them, Howard and Ruiz. Howard has three homers and 14 RBIs in his past eight games, and against the Braves he’s collected four homers and 11 RBIs in his past six games.

A reporter asked Hanson if he thought all of the homers would have been out at some other, bigger ballparks.

“I don’t know. I mean, I pitched here and they went out,” he said. “I stink. Those pitches caught too much of the plate. And they didn’t just hit it in the gap or hit it hard for a single, they put it in the seats for the most part.”

While those back-to-back jacks in a three-pitch span hurt the most, when things really seemed off the rails for Hanson was during a four-pitch walk he issued to Kyle Kendrick with two out and nobody on in the fourth inning. Yes, a four-pitch walk to the opposing pitcher.

Hanson allowed only one hit that wasn’t a homer, but issued three walks, including one to Utley to start the sixth. He stole second base and went to third on a wild pitch, at which point Hanson was replaced after striking out Howard.

Reliever Cory Gearrin entered the game and gave up an RBI single to Ruiz on the sidearmer’s first pitch, pushing the lead to 5-1. Utley added a solo homer in the eighth off rookie Luis Avilan to give the Phillies a season-high four homers.

Kendrick (10-11) allowed five hits, two runs and one walk with six strikeouts in 6 2/3 innings, moving to 6-2 with a 2.17 ERA in his past eight starts. Against the Braves, the right-hander is 7-1 with a 2.86 ERA in 19 career games (13 starts).

The loss was just the Braves’ second in seven games this season in Philadelphia. They are 10-6 overall against the Phillies and finish their season series with two more games against them this weekend.

90 comments Add your comment

Damaso Garcia

September 21st, 2012
9:52 pm

Cant win them all. Instead of playing the same way all year, FG has mixed it up. That’s good. I believe Mac and Uggs should move up in the order, give Bourne 3 days off, and give Big Ben another shot. TH hasn’t been good all year.

Damaso Garcia

September 21st, 2012
9:52 pm

Cant win them all. Instead of playing the same way all year, FG has mixed it up. That’s good. I believe Mac and Uggs should move up in the order, give Bourne 3 days off, and give Big Ben another shot. TH hasn’t been good all year.

northbeach Scott

September 21st, 2012
10:10 pm

Sit down Tommy gun. We have seen quiet enough of you in 2013. Let Ben Sheets start in his place.

ugafan13

September 21st, 2012
10:18 pm

Hanson wouldn’t even make a good addition to the pen! He has tanked two years in a row after the All Star break. In my opinion he and JJ need to be dealt!

BRAVESFAN

September 21st, 2012
10:19 pm

Time to call up some more players from the farm like Ernesto Mejia and Luis Durango.

DOB Needs To Ask Tough Questions!

September 21st, 2012
10:19 pm

Folks, you have to tip your cap to Tommy tonight. Hang’em Hanson was vintage and he is sure sticking it to that evil Boras. Folks, Boras is all about the money and when Tommy was coming up the ranks, he was probably saying cha Ching! Folks, not on Hang’em Hansons watch!
And for sticking it to Boras, we say…ATTA BOY TOMMY!!!

BRAVESFAN

September 21st, 2012
10:21 pm

Is Freeman’s hand still injured? Does he need to wear the glasses again?

Larry

September 21st, 2012
10:21 pm

Hopefully we can trade Hanson’s negotiation rights this offseason for a dozen each of bats and balls and maybe squeeze out a foot long chili slaw dog too.

He’s virtually valueless at this point…and good to have learned this BEFORE Scott Boros talks Wren into another absurd, team crippling contract.

BRAVESFAN

September 21st, 2012
10:24 pm

Why is Overbay there and where is Ernesto Mejia?

Bro

September 21st, 2012
10:34 pm

When did Hansen reach his pitch limit? Prior to the game. One pitch was way over his limit. Never gets past the 6th. Do we only have Gerrain and Avelan in the bullpen. I think they have both pitched in the last four games. Freddi G has no idea on how to handle pitches. His lack of major league experience is at it’s worse the later the Braves get into the season. Cox had the same disease when it came to making decisions at the end of the season or in the playoffs.

leftrecursion

September 21st, 2012
10:35 pm

Hey Tommy, thanks for pointing out the obvious. The thing that makes me laugh the most is that he knows that he sucks but refuses to make an adjustment. The first half of the season he may have won some games but it wasn’t because he was pitching lights out or anything. Tommy, you’ve lost 4-5 MPH on your fastball which is making your secondary pitches less effective. That curveball you throw shouldn’t be your out pitch and you shouldn’t be throwing it as much as you do. What happened to that devastating slider you used to have? YOU’RE NOT A STRIKE OUT POWER PITCHER ANYMORE STOP TRYING TO BE RANDY JOHNSON YOU MORON!! Learn how to pitch instead just throwing.

kirkinga

September 21st, 2012
10:36 pm

So why is Hanson more worthy of staying in the rotation than JJ? It might be worth asking why both young stars have regressed so noticeably. If it was just one guy you might be able to put it on the player, but two starters?

TWO GOOD DOGS

September 21st, 2012
10:36 pm

HANSON WAS AS USUAL. NOT A MAJOR LEAGUE PITCHER. GREAT CURVE. AWFUL FASTBALL. NEVERTHE LESS, THE OFFENSE DIDN’T PRODUCE AT ALL . IF HANSON HAD HELD THEM TO 2. WE’D STILL NOT HAVE WON. SO LET’S GET BACK TO THE OFFENSIVE PROBLEMS. BOURNE NEEDS TO SIT IF HE CAN’T PRODUCE. RUN CONSTANZA IN HIS PLACE EVERYDAY. HEYWARD IS LIVING ON HIS SUMMER PRODUCTION. RIGHT NOW HE’S BACK TO HIS OLD CRAP. CAN’T ADAPT TO ADJUSTMENTS. TIRED OF COMMENTING.
WON’T BOTHER ANY MORE.

jj

September 21st, 2012
10:37 pm

I know some will have a fit but if it is up to me Hanson and JJ will be pitching for another organization next year.I think it would be good for them and it is time for the Braves to move on with the next group of young arms.I hope Tommy has pitched his last game as a Brave.GO BRAVES

dr_jones

September 21st, 2012
10:40 pm

ugafan – What do you think the Braves would get for Hanson and JJ if they could deal them? A bag of rocks (they certainly couldn’t get a bag of perfectly good balls)? Maybe a bag of those cheap K-Mart balls that warp the first time you hit’m good.

Bro

September 21st, 2012
10:46 pm

What happened to Sheets. Did he retire again or has Freddi G just given up on a proven pitcher in order to see how many homeruns Hansen can give up. Delgado pitcher way better than Hansen and he got sent down. Another job of mismanagemnet. It will be great when the Braves get a real manager. Cox won the NL dispite his inability to manage and then screwed it up by over managening in the playoffs.

Bro

September 21st, 2012
10:46 pm

What happened to Sheets. Did he retire again or has Freddi G just given up on a proven pitcher in order to see how many homeruns Hansen can give up. Delgado pitcher way better than Hansen and he got sent down. Another job of mismanagemnet. It will be great when the Braves get a real manager. Cox won the NL dispite his inability to manage and then screwed it up by over managening in the playoffs.

Ken Stallings

September 21st, 2012
10:51 pm

David,

Do you know what the latest status on Ben Sheets is? Last that was reported is that he was being sent on a rehab assignment but there were no plans to bring him up to the team. Given Hanson’s clear struggles, might the Braves be looking at giving Sheets or Randall Delgado the next start scheduled for Hanson?

BrianSC

September 21st, 2012
10:53 pm

I don’t know how anyone could have any confidence at all in Hanson right now. You CANNOT put the ball in his hands any more this year. Tonight was a perfect opportunity to pick up a game on Washington. There won’t be many more of these. Fredi must do everything he can (put his best team out there) to avoid that “stupid” (as Chipper says, and I believe) one game Wild Card game. Hanson is NOT one of them.

Sometimes leading and managing requires one to make bold decisions that you might not want to make, but you have to make it for the betterment of the team or organization. He can’t use Hanson going forward. If I were the manager he would be done for this year. No more the rest of the way leading up to the playoffs and leave him off the playoff roster. He is a liability at this point and cannot make a positive contribution to this team.

I know that is tough, but it is true. Sorry.

Oh'man

September 21st, 2012
10:57 pm

Of course we lost, Tommy Hanson was pitching. Why are you guys surprised?

gotigers72

September 21st, 2012
11:02 pm

I don’t expect to see Hanson in a Braves’ uniform come Spring Training. In addition to being pi** poor in all areas as a pitcher, continuing to have that slo-mo delivery allowing other teams to just run wild against him, issues too many walks, command stinks, etc., he has made himself a Boras client now. He is a SoCal boy and unless the Braves overwhelm him with a package, methinks he heads for the Left Coast when he becomes a free agent. Better to trade him now when his value is up as compared to what his value will be after another horsebleep year like this year has been. He certainly does not deserve to be overwhelmed by the Braves. Not with all of the mound talent that they currently posess.

I am very surprised at how far Big Red has gone down since coming to the majors. I used to just be amazed by his stuff, and hopeful that the Braves could keep him around for a long time. Not any more. Trade him now. Solo or with some more players [Uggla?] and he might just bring an above average LF or 3rd baseman. Wait and you’ll be paying most of his salary, ala Derek Lowe.

Ken Stallings

September 21st, 2012
11:02 pm

David,

Would not the magic number over the Cards be at six games vice the five you mentioned? The Braves are six up in the loss column. You subtract one to make it five and substract that from the games remaining to play, which is 11. That would make it a magic number of five, correct?

Ken Stallings

September 21st, 2012
11:03 pm

Dangit! I meant six!

Harpie

September 21st, 2012
11:25 pm

Hanson stinks, and the Braves are not gonna win a single post -season game.

phoenix

September 21st, 2012
11:30 pm

Braves are supposedly in some kind of post season race, and Frediot keeps throwing Sad Sack Hanson out there every five days. Sure, that makes sense. We’ll see another edition of Hanson’s Home Run Derby next week!

Pitching Coach

September 21st, 2012
11:30 pm

With both Tommy and JJ having pitched poorly the last 18 months, McDowell will be looking for a new pitching coach job next year.

Bambino

September 21st, 2012
11:38 pm

Hanson is a bumb! He sux!!!!!!

Gene

September 21st, 2012
11:52 pm

The Braves are a pretty safe bet for the playoff game on Oct. 5th. Fredi stuck with Lowe last season when it was clear that he was a liability. It is pretty obvious that Hanson has filled the role vacated by Lowe. If the Braves somehow get past St. Louis, and Fredi lets Hanson touch a baseball in the division series, he is truly incompetent to be a major-league manager.

BoobyCox

September 21st, 2012
11:57 pm

This team can’t hit and the manager keeps putting crap pitchers like Hanson out there “why not pitch him”? Fredi is horrible. Forget the playoffs. They’ll lose 1-0 in the 1 game playoff with Medlin pitching a shutout through 15 innings. Frediot will bring in Gear-on to give up a 565 foot homer in the 16th. Please fire freddie and I’ll consider coming back to some games next year.

IncrediblySlowTypist

September 21st, 2012
11:58 pm

ObviousGuy

September 22nd, 2012
12:00 am

Fredi has a room temperature IQ when it comes to baseball. A very cold room.

CheifKnockaHoma

September 22nd, 2012
12:01 am

Take my Fredi, please!

Sheets?? Paging Mr Sheets???

September 22nd, 2012
12:19 am

Hanson just can’t get it going in big boy baseball with his big slow windup. It worked when his fastball
was 5mph faster, not so now.

SR

September 22nd, 2012
12:53 am

Hanson being Hanson just like Jurjjens was Jurjenns. Time ran out on that dude, hopefully Tommy Boy’s time is up as well. Only way this dude should appear in postseason is as the ball dude or in a mop up role. He’s done.

DJ

September 22nd, 2012
1:08 am

Seems the only way Hanson can have a reasonable career going forward is to turn into slider/sinker ball pitcher, pitching tp contact. He’s not a power, strikeout pitcher, anymore. That seems self-evident to all. So, is he getting that coaching? Not listening to that coaching? Or physically incapable of being a pitcher that pitches to contact? They worked on a new delivery for him last year. They need someone to teach him how to be a different pitcher this next year…..wherever he plays.

Mr. Hankey (Pankey.)

September 22nd, 2012
2:00 am

Hanson has always looked like he’s peed off for some reason and I think I know the answer. ANG. (Ain’t no good.) Perhaps the most highly rated player this side of Brad Kominsk for you long time fans. I say take that dumbass red beard and bad haircut back to the west coast and get a scrip
for medical marijuana. He looks like he “hunks” the ball like a kid throwing a dirt clod as opposed to pitching like a kid that plays MGL. Whatever he “had” is gone. Dude throws with arm, not body. I’n not an experty or a coach, but that’s pretty obvious. PLEASE LEAVE HIM OFF THE PLAYOFF ROSTER..

Sorry, man. You may be a great “locker” guy, but you always, and I mean “ALWAYS” look snarky.

Apologies if I’m wrong about snarky, but nunn about sorry pitcher.

Mr. Hankey (Pankey.)

September 22nd, 2012
2:04 am

To incredibly sloe tipissed: Love the Hummer.

Signed,

Incredably baad spelar.

Da Mick

September 22nd, 2012
3:51 am

Yet Fredi somehow comes out of this game (and after all Hanson’s other starts) saying, “I don’t know if we’ll continue to start him. We’ll see. But why not? He’s our guy.”

Is this a major league ball team fighting for their spot in the playoffs or a good ole boy’s club? I rest my case.

I was totally sick of Cox’s predictability and lack of an original ideas for managing the team when thinking outside the box was required. But I flat out can’t stand Gonzalez. With him in the driver’s seat, I just feel like I’m always being conned as a Braves fan.

Despite the many negative comments about the GM, I think Wren does a pretty good job with what he’s got to work with. You can’t really blame him for Uggla’s demise as his yearly numbers were consistent before he came here. But can’t we just get a bone fide intelligent baseball guy in the manager’s seat — someone who actually manages the rescources the braves organization has, instead of just doing in by auto-pilot. I can’t take much more.

man and dog

September 22nd, 2012
3:57 am

What else is new?

mike from the coast

September 22nd, 2012
4:45 am

This seems like a perfect time to give Delgado a start. I am disappointed we haven’t seen him since the call ups. At least give him an inning of relief. He’s got great stuff, give him some innings.
I agee with another poster above, Gearin and Avilan are being overused. I like both pitchers, Avilan has been great despite tonight’s homerun.

Serbok

September 22nd, 2012
4:46 am

First of all I have been a Braves fan! approx 44 yrs! Whatever happened to “Mike Lum?” Or ROY Earl Williams?// just wanna say
“MAN!” Phils wont make it~ but they are back into Wild Card discussions! Awesome Job by “Big Headed” Charlie Williams, I ive the feelings they will be “RIGHT BACK” in playoff chatter. Their #s, are always at the TOP of “Playoff Chatter” Next Year!!!!!!

Buzz 2011

September 22nd, 2012
6:23 am

Uggla can give him pitching instructions.

Fats

September 22nd, 2012
6:43 am

Hanson has a good attitude. He will come through in the end imo. Sure has a better attitude than some players that don’t care about anything but the paycheck. Hang tough Hanson :)

crm300

September 22nd, 2012
7:01 am

Hanson has become this year’s Derek Lowe. Frediot did not stop using Lowe down the stretch last year and he will not stop using Hanson this year. Would’nt surprise me if he rearranged the rotation to start Hanson in the wild card play in game!

Hanson does drugs

September 22nd, 2012
7:13 am

I don’t think Hanson’s head is in the game. I heard he’s a pill-popper. I wouldn’t be surprised. That single car accident he had during spring training was awfully suspicious. He gives off an overall aura that his top priority in life is not baseball. He needs to go to rehab.

Teddy B

September 22nd, 2012
7:20 am

Tubby Hanson strikes again! I’m telling you, he’s our WORST pitcher this year. He got lucky and got lots of run support to win the 12 games that he DID win! Get this BUM outta ATLANTA!

We can’t go into ANY playoff series with this hollow shell of a man on the mound. STOP THE BLEEDING. BENCH Mmmm-BOP Tommy Hanson! Freddi- DO YOUR JOB AND CAN THIS SCRUB-BUST, PLEASE. Ben Sheets would be a far more viable option than red. Just bench him, DL him with a “groin” problem like you do every other guy who can’t play anymore, just do SOMETHING!!

Willy

September 22nd, 2012
7:41 am

Get Sheets on the mound!

59bulldawg

September 22nd, 2012
7:43 am

I can’t figure out what’s wrong with Hanson. It’s like he loses focus and can’t bear down. I do know that just letting him pitch through it with so much on the line is foolish. My answer to whether Hanson should pitch in the postseason, if we get there, would be “Hell No!”. I hope he’s traded before next spring.

BartBuzz

September 22nd, 2012
8:04 am

Tommy Hanson has been a real disappointment. Definitely an underachiever after all the hype he received. His second half has been mediocre at best. Good thing the Braves have some up-and-coming young guns.

JT

September 22nd, 2012
8:23 am

Anybody have the stats showing how many games we would have gained on the Nats when Hanson lost his last 6 games, had we won those games/

This guy and his hesitation move really sucks! Gotta trade him, if we can in off season. Another guy who did not work out. All of his wins early in season, when teams are trying to find who in their line up can or cannot hit.

JT

September 22nd, 2012
8:24 am

New name for Big Red, how about Big Homer!

Alvin

September 22nd, 2012
8:41 am

“Anybody have the stats showing how many games we would have gained on the Nats when Hanson lost his last 6 games, had we won those games/”
—–
Are you incapable of doing the simple math yourself, Einstein?

Ward

September 22nd, 2012
9:14 am

Hanson should absorb “lessons” in pitching from his peers…who all seem capable of adjusting and learning……Tommy does not learn…Has to be an intellectual roadblock. He seems beyond coaching and certainly is ineffective in MLB.
+

dap01

September 22nd, 2012
9:15 am

Karma: Do you remember the articles illustrating how Hanson was going to be great because he was working out with Boras at the Boras facility. Well, he career is on a death spiral and Boras is not going to highjack the Braves with a large contract.

Too bad Hanson is so bad that we will only get low level prospects when he is traded in a couple of months.

Why is Freddie even pitching him?

RidintheRails

September 22nd, 2012
9:19 am

Hanson pitched 5.1 innings and only gave up 4 hits . . . nary a single or double in the bunch . . . triple and three HOMERS! Now that’s PITCHING!!!!

Andre

September 22nd, 2012
9:26 am

Not worried. No need to pitch Hanson again with magic number at 5. When his spot comes up, I would pitch Julio or Delgado, or skip his turn to set up the rotation. And even if u do pitch Hanson one more time, he’s not on the post season roster.
Medlen pitches WC game and then Hudson pitches game 1, Minor pitches game 2 of div series, Maholm game 3, Medlen game 4 and then Hudson game 5. No Hanson.
And definitely trade him for next season. Make room for Grienke!

JoeyBagOBravos

September 22nd, 2012
9:26 am

He’s not an underachiever. That would imply a poor desire and work ethic. He can’t throw a good fasttball. That makes it difficult for his breaking pictures to be effective at this level.

COOPER

September 22nd, 2012
9:32 am

The blog statement was” Hanson hit hard”. My question is why is he still in the starting rotation? I played against someone with Hanson’s style of pitching and anybody that is a good hitter can get the best of Hanson way more than Hanson get’s the best of him. Unless Hanson is willing to go to the minor league and change his delivery and speed up his motion with no pause I would have him on the first trade out of Atlanta while you can still get something for him.

BravesfaninWis

September 22nd, 2012
9:46 am

If the Braves put this big red idiot on the mound in the playoffs, they will lose, and they will deserve to go home and watch the teams and managers who make smart decisions play for a championship. Hanson better not be on this team next year, he is not good enough to be at this level.

SLBReb

September 22nd, 2012
9:54 am

Tommy is not doing his team any favors but the real issue is the offense. If a pitcher gives up a run or two, they will take a loss period. FG is not smart enough to realize this is a major issue and just sits around waiting for someone to hit a HR. Have to say that I am shocked that Struggla is actually hitting in the last week. Now if we could find someone else in the line up whose name does not begin with Martin to contribute more than once a week.

Steve

September 22nd, 2012
9:55 am

Hanson is still a young pitcher. I wouldn’t be so quick to get down on him. If you all can remember he was projected to be the ace of the staff when he first came up from the minors. He may be injured but even if he’s not he may just need a little time off to clear his head judging from the quotes in this article.

Lommy Skanson

September 22nd, 2012
9:58 am

HANSON IS A BUM!!!

Lommy Skanson

September 22nd, 2012
10:01 am

KEEP DRINKIN THE KOOL-AID, STEVOE

Heisenberg

September 22nd, 2012
10:08 am

I put this up on another blog, but we can run it here also. Until an official poll can be put up with radio buttons to click, here is an unofficial one. How should Braves adjust rotation for WC game?

1) Flip Medlen/Maholm next starts.
2) Skip Hansen next time around
3) Leave as is and let whoever’s turn comes up pitch
4) Other

I will cast first vote: #2

Carl Farvman

September 22nd, 2012
10:12 am

Start Medlen every game beginning with the WC game…..since we have no other reliable starters. If the Braves get past the 2nd WC team have fun throwing money out the window beyond that….

SimpleDawg

September 22nd, 2012
10:20 am

Hanson is a has-been, even before he was anything…..

64 year Ct. Braves fan

September 22nd, 2012
10:33 am

Major issue remains the hitting. Too many strikeouts. Don’t resign Bourne and no long term contract
for Speedy McCann.

No Hope for Braves

September 22nd, 2012
10:40 am

Didn’t you love the way freddi the freeloader sat there with his head down while Tommy was dying on the mound? I always love him when he does that. DUFE

yellowfever

September 22nd, 2012
10:40 am

So Freddie Freeman finally admitted what we all knew was the problem, stressing on the field. There is also another name for this so called stress and it’s called CHOKING. Anybody who thinks the Braves will win one game against the Phillies are kidding themselves. By Monday the Phillies will be breathing down the Braves neck’s and the CHOKE collar will get even tighter.Eithere you have the balls to finish the drill or you don’t. These Braves didn’t have it last year and don’t have it this year.

RBI

September 22nd, 2012
10:47 am

I cannot believe Hanson has 12 wins. He is excruciating to watch. He needs to go back and start over learning to throw, or hang it up. He is no good to this team.

nashvillewill

September 22nd, 2012
11:22 am

After all the hoopla about Hanson retooling his delivery looks to me like the same old approach. Which means ineffective + an injury-waiting-to-happen. While on the subject of mechanics, I still don’t like the hitting mechanics of Heyward (too active too late when pitch is approaching. Stop the jerking around when the pitcher comes set); Freeman (bat curled back too far behind his neck, looks like he is swinging a shelaleigh); Uggla (terrible stance, awful swing). Bad mechanics=bad performance over the long haul , for the most part. Hence, the inconsistency. Look at Chipper’s mechanics and swing, Prado’s approach, and Simmons mechanics–all excellent and produce results. Johnson looks good as well. Something is wrong with Bourn and either needs physical or psychological help.

alanfalcon

September 22nd, 2012
11:42 am

The biggest problem we have is Freddie G., always to little to late, he is stubborn to a point that he ends up losing games my not seeing the problems that the rest of the Braves can see sitting in their easy chairs. Freddie does not have good management skills, I couldnt’t see that in Miami because we wern’t exposed to that many games, but I do understand now why the Marlins let him go and we would be wise to do the same.

Arizona Brave

September 22nd, 2012
11:44 am

Does anyone of the Braves read your blog DOB?

John

September 22nd, 2012
12:16 pm

I have to agree with several people on here… everytime Hansen is scheduled to pitch I groan. I am no expert but even I can see he has some issues that keeps giving the same results. I do not care if you have a 5 man rotation or a 6 man rotation… Hansen cannot get the job done. If the Braves pitch him in the playoffs you can make it down with a loss. To me he is done for the season.

Humbug

September 22nd, 2012
12:33 pm

How many games must a Braves pitcher blow before Fredi realizes that he is a loser?
Putting Hanson in the bullpen won’t work because he gives up hits and runs as soon as he steps on the mound. He would only blow more games. I don’t know what his problem is but I do know that this late in the season is no time for him to be trying to correct his long time failures. No one thought that he would be the new Deek Lowe but everybody realizes that now except Fredi.

The only thing that Fredi has shown so far is that baseball managing is not very high on his priority list.

harry taylor

September 22nd, 2012
12:41 pm

Wouldn’t it be a smack in the face if the Phillies win the second wild card slot and beat the Braves in the one game playoff. Then Chipper(Hooter Boy) wouldn’t have to complain about playing any more games this year and forever. He is the one to complain about playing a lot of games. $13 million and playing in about 3/4 of the games.

reckingball

September 22nd, 2012
12:55 pm

@11:44am…….There might be some that read DOB’s articles, but I seriously doubt that any of them read the comments.
Why would they want too?
go braves

BILLY JACK

September 22nd, 2012
12:57 pm

Hanson has to sit on the bench the rest of the season-he has been awful 2nd half of the season-Beachy comes back next year and Braves are loaded again-dont pitch Hanson again-see if Sheets is ready-lets win the world series boys.

BravesWin

September 22nd, 2012
1:07 pm

Hanson will not get better with time. His Little League-gimmick delivery and his stubbornness about changing it indicates he’s doomed as a ML pitcher. I hate it, but it’s obvious.

reckingball

September 22nd, 2012
1:09 pm

Why not Delgado?

Stumpknocker

September 22nd, 2012
1:28 pm

This next off-season would be a great time to test the trade waters with Hanson.

Tumbledown

September 22nd, 2012
1:29 pm

I agree regarding Delgado. He needs a chance. At least he does not freeze his motion and tip his pitches. (I don’t know if Hanson does tip but his motion sure makes it seem like it is possible).

BusterBrave

September 22nd, 2012
1:34 pm

Tend to agree with the folks who want to see Hanson and Jurrjens dealt,provided we can get value in return; also, would like to see Sheets take Hanson’s spot in the rotation……

Stumpknocker

September 22nd, 2012
1:40 pm

Perhaps the best reason to get rid of this moron is his agent SCOTT BORAS………enough said.

reckingball

September 22nd, 2012
2:13 pm

I really don’t know who JJ can be dealt to.
I would think that all of the other MLB teams will know that the Braves are not going to pay him the $5 or 6 $million that he got for this year, and will release him. My guess.

reckingball

September 22nd, 2012
2:15 pm

As a fan, I would like to see the Braves try to trade Hanson and get something for him.
go braves

braveslover

September 22nd, 2012
2:27 pm

The Braves cannot trade Hannie cause no other team is that stupid. However Hanson is a FA soon and will surely get his walking papers. Right, Wren? No haggling with Boras, just saynara. I, too, would like to see Delgado for an inning or two. Next year might look pretty bright if Minor has really become a major leaguer, Beachy comes back, and Meds in the starting five from the beginning. We might be able to afford Delgado’s growing pains for a while with these guys. Who knows what Jekyl/Hyde Hudson will do. Bye Bye JJ and Hanson.

[...] the way, after homering off Tommy Hanson in Friday’s 6-2 loss, Howard has a .300 career average with 41 homers, 118 RBIs, .380 OBP and .613 slugging percentage [...]

74bravesjersey

September 22nd, 2012
6:49 pm

Now, Now, O’l uncle fredi wants to do like his mentor supposedly, to give tommyboy a second chance to redeem himself, then 3rd chance, 4th chance, 5th chance, it’s unconditional love from uncle fredi, but I think his mentor (Bobby) would say son, we’ve tried, but if you were’nt able to have any success after 3 chances, we gotta find someth’n else for ya to do. Can you help us w/ batting practice detail, then we’ll go from there. Durn toot’n Hanson.

Steve

September 24th, 2012
1:04 pm

I have no personal animosity toward Tommy Hanson, but his flawed delivery to the plate which allows runners to steal second almost at will and his horrible inconsistency are unacceptable on a play-off quality team. Hopefully he will go the way of Kevin Millwood, Derek Lowe, Jason Marquis and other former “good” Braves pitchers who just aren’t able to compete at the top level of the game.

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