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Efrim
September 21st, 2012
1:18 pm
If we win that one-game wildcard playoff, it’ll be the team’s first post-season success in over a decade
Somehow, it’ll feel more like relief, than joy for me if we win the coin flip.
nolie
September 21st, 2012
1:18 pm
can we ban Robert for obsession??? Its two years later and he still can’t help himself. Dangerous person
ncscoots
September 21st, 2012
1:18 pm
phil, don’t worry, Robert came along to bore me even more.
No, no. Comic relief from Hanson-bashing, Uggla-trading, Greinke-signing, and the like. I welcome the man, LOL.
TennesseePaul
September 21st, 2012
1:20 pm
Even when he’s had low pitch counts recently, no run support gets him pulled.
I think the fact he’d be staring down the line up for the third time gets him pulled. Opponents hit .380/.443/.633/1.076 off of him on their 3rd trip. If he were as great as he was supposed to be, he wouldn’t be pulled in the 5th in a close game.
Bat Masterson
September 21st, 2012
1:21 pm
Have you been bowling any, Robert?
phil
September 21st, 2012
1:22 pm
What of those certain few obsessed with correcting those here perceived to be wrong all the time?
Stalkers………?
I agree as to DOB. He’s the one person here that someone could obviously hunt down if they had a large enough screw loose in their pea-sized noggin. We all know what he looks like, what he does, where he is at least when on duty and such as that, so yeah, if I’m him, I can see it. Of course DOB isn’t John Lennon or David Letterman….not that he isn’t similarly talented in his chosen field, of course.
But the otherwise anonymous nature of this place should cover the rest of us….well, except for those who publicly out themselves in one way or another.
TennesseePaul
September 21st, 2012
1:22 pm
If we win that one-game wildcard playoff, it’ll be the team’s first post-season success in over a decade
Sad. We must rejoice when we are victorious in the loser bracket coin toss.
Arkansas Transplant
September 21st, 2012
1:22 pm
Bowling?
ncscoots
September 21st, 2012
1:22 pm
I think the fact he’d be staring down the line up for the third time gets him pulled.
Fredo might think the same way as you.
I don’t mean that as an insult.
nolie
September 21st, 2012
1:23 pm
I think last time he got pulled when he did because of lack of run support. I firmly believe that Fredi would have run him out there again if his turn at bat had not occurred.
chipontheroad
September 21st, 2012
1:23 pm
Enjoying this blog is a privaledge and I would like to thank D O’B,Carroll,and all Y’all for making my love of the Braves richer than ever..
Bat Masterson
September 21st, 2012
1:24 pm
Robert knows bowling, AT.
Robert
September 21st, 2012
1:24 pm
“Have you been bowling any, Robert”
Not recently.
TennesseePaul
September 21st, 2012
1:25 pm
On pitches 76-100 Hanson allows a .380/.444/.643/1.088 line this year.
nolie
September 21st, 2012
1:25 pm
great sport for Robert…rolling the same ball down the same lane at the same pins all night long.
OCD heaven
phil
September 21st, 2012
1:25 pm
CB
September 21st, 2012
1:12 pm
phil, don’t worry, Robert came along to bore me even more.
*************
I wasn’t trying to entertain anyone. I had no other way to convey my disdain for what’s his name’s assault on my senses, this being an anonymous blog and all. Sorry I bored you so.
nolie
September 21st, 2012
1:26 pm
I heard you were a lawyer , if so of course you are boring……
Venice Jim
September 21st, 2012
1:27 pm
Jayson Stark @jaysonst
You can make great NL Cy Young cases for Dickey, Gio, Kershaw & more. But the guy who should win is Kimbrel. Here’s why
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8404780/there-no-pitcher-better-craig-kimbrel-national-league
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 21st, 2012
1:28 pm
Tommy Hanson 3rd time thru lineup; .380/.443/.633/1.076
screams great starter to me. By the time he gets to the 5th, he’s screwed/done
Paul Maholm 3rd time thru: .263/.314/.398/.711/
Last 5 starts:
Hanson- 25.1 IP, .282/.339/.466/.805 with a 4.62 ERA
Maholm- 25.0 IP, .305/.365/.448/.813 with a 6.12 ERA
Braves have gone 2-3 in both Maholm and Hanson’s last 5 starts.
phil
September 21st, 2012
1:29 pm
What is a privaledge?
I often feel that way too.
Efrim
September 21st, 2012
1:29 pm
On pitches 76-100 Hanson allows a .380/.444/.643/1.088 line this year.
Ugly.
Efrim
September 21st, 2012
1:32 pm
screams great starter to me.
Who has called him that?
phil
September 21st, 2012
1:32 pm
nolie
September 21st, 2012
1:26 pm
I heard you were a lawyer , if so of course you are boring……
***********
Exactly.
But no more so than a retired baseball scout.
Bat Masterson
September 21st, 2012
1:34 pm
Nice sentiment, chipotr
nolie
September 21st, 2012
1:34 pm
maybe, but given a choice I bet more folks would want to talk knowledgeably about baseball than torts…maybe I’m wrong
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 21st, 2012
1:35 pm
3rd time thru Lineup:
Barry Zito- .287/.343/.451/.794
Tim Hudson- .300/.383/.475/.858 and as a bonus, his 4th time thru the lineup .321/.375/.536/.911
Randall Delgado- .267/.402/.413/.816
Mike Minor- .299/.353/.519/.872
Once again, Tommy Hanson is at 380/.443/.633/1.076.
P-Town Brave ©
September 21st, 2012
1:36 pm
AT-
Hanson over starts in Aug & Sep (6) is 0-3 w/ a 4.50 ERA in 32 IP (5 1/3 IP/start)
Maholm over starts in Aug & Sep (9) is 3-4 w/ a 5.00 ERA in 45 IP (5 IP/start)
In August Maholm was good, Hanson was bad…
In September Hanson has been above average, Maholm has been bad
nolie
September 21st, 2012
1:38 pm
OBSESSIVE Hanson HATER…
Throw him out!
phil
September 21st, 2012
1:38 pm
No, you’re absolutely right. Who wants to talk to me about torts? I don’t want to talk to others about it either outside of work, but it’s never ending. In other words, people do at least feign interest for whatever reason. You were fortunate to do something you love and make a go of it. That didn’t happen for me.
ncscoots
September 21st, 2012
1:38 pm
Well, you guys managed to show that pitchers fare poorly on batters’ third appearances. No one remotely connected with baseball ever knew that.
P-Town Brave ©
September 21st, 2012
1:39 pm
TOBF-
Your last post just tells others like I have been saying for some time….
Delgado doesn’t get half as much credit as he deserves….
Oh, and TP, I would say that between the stats we have all provided that Tommy sounds more like a reliever to me, but with his BB/9 who wants to put that in their pen?!
nolie
September 21st, 2012
1:40 pm
gee phil, i hope you know I was kidding…why some of my best friends are lawyers.
actually I like most of your posts just fine
ncscoots
September 21st, 2012
1:40 pm
Who wants to talk to me about torts?
I would, phil. I’m inexhaustibly curious.
nolie
September 21st, 2012
1:41 pm
I’d rather talk tarts (both kinds) that torts scoots
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 21st, 2012
1:42 pm
And this year from Tommy 3rd time thru is a huge outlier…. previous worst was in 2009 when he had a .268/.331/.488/.819 line. In 2010 and 2011, he was around .230 (pitched 76-100 and 3rd time thru lineup)
Hope this is an outlier. No evidence to support that as being a trend.
Patrick
September 21st, 2012
1:42 pm
OH MAN! IT WOULD BE SO FREAKING COOL (AND DESERVING) IF KIMBREL WON THE CY YOUNG AWARD!
ncscoots
September 21st, 2012
1:43 pm
nolie, I did start to do a joke post on torts/tarts, but phil’s had a kinda tuff morning.
Robert
September 21st, 2012
1:44 pm
Nice torts!!!!!
Jeff R
September 21st, 2012
1:44 pm
OH MAN! IT WOULD BE SO FREAKING COOL (AND DESERVING) IF KIMBREL WON THE CY YOUNG AWARD!
Caps I like.
Bat Masterson
September 21st, 2012
1:44 pm
Speaking of tarts, I’m gonna have to go to the grocery store soon.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 21st, 2012
1:46 pm
OBSESSIVE Hanson HATER…
Throw him out!
Yeah, get MFin out of here!
Tommy sounds more like a reliever to me, but with his BB/9 who wants to put that in their pen?!
Co-sign!!!
P-Town Brave ©
September 21st, 2012
1:46 pm
Wow…Really Scoots….REALLY….
.197 .222 .262 .485
Now go back to your room til you are SPOKEN TO!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 21st, 2012
1:46 pm
OBSESSIVE Hanson HATER…
Throw him out!
Yeah, get MFin out of here!
Tommy sounds more like a reliever to me, but with his BB/9 who wants to put that in their pen?!
Co-sign!!!
Jeff R
September 21st, 2012
1:46 pm
I like to talk about tortes… and eat them too.
nolie
September 21st, 2012
1:46 pm
course I guess you could have a tort that involved a tart, that might really be interesting
cowdogit
September 21st, 2012
1:46 pm
Hey George
You make these blogs more interesting – These same old boring suckups are the ones that need to be censored.
ncscoots
September 21st, 2012
1:47 pm
Speaking of tarts, I’m gonna have to go to the grocery store soon.
Yeah, well, when you talk of “picking up some tarts”, we never know if you mean the ones that go into a grocery bag.
nolie
September 21st, 2012
1:47 pm
from what I hear your store regularly has tarts doing their shopping, perhaps even for tarts Bat
P-Town Brave ©
September 21st, 2012
1:47 pm
Torts about tarts involving a bunch of frittatas….
Ya don’t say
nolie
September 21st, 2012
1:48 pm
yours was better scoots
ncscoots
September 21st, 2012
1:48 pm
These same old boring suckups are the ones that need to be censored.
Just think of us as the fatboy lineup.
Arkansas Transplant
September 21st, 2012
1:48 pm
P-T, thanks for the comparison.. I was thinking it might look for favorable than that towards Hanson.
Hate to say it guys but I bowl. Just bowled league lastnight.
nolie
September 21st, 2012
1:49 pm
ban the Cowdogit!!!
nolie
September 21st, 2012
1:50 pm
we forgive you AT
ncscoots
September 21st, 2012
1:50 pm
fire cowdogit!!!
TennesseePaul
September 21st, 2012
1:50 pm
Well, you guys managed to show that pitchers fare poorly on batters’ third appearances
______________AVG__OBP__SLG__OPS
Kris Medlen... .197 .222 .262 .485
Maddux '90-'99 .253 .294 .344 .638
nolie
September 21st, 2012
1:52 pm
I think cowdogit is about as cool as doggonit. I might start using it that way
Bat Masterson
September 21st, 2012
1:52 pm
Yeah, I’ve been blessed in the grocery store tart department.
Efrim
September 21st, 2012
1:52 pm
______________AVG__OBP__SLG__OPS
Kris Medlen… .197 .222 .262 .485
Maddux ‘90-’99 .253 .294 .344 .638
Hahaha. It’s hard not to laugh.
ncscoots
September 21st, 2012
1:53 pm
TennPaul, with the exceptions that prove the rule.
‘Course, there ain’t enough room on this page for a chart of the pitchers who fare worse on later appearances, but I think we can let that slide.
phil
September 21st, 2012
1:53 pm
nolie
September 21st, 2012
1:40 pm
gee phil, i hope you know I was kidding…why some of my best friends are lawyers.
actually I like most of your posts just fine
*************
I was serious that you’re exactly right, even if kidding. How could tort law ever be more interesting than sports? Well, except for fencing or some crap like that!
Jeff R
September 21st, 2012
1:53 pm
Hey George
You make these blogs more interesting – These same old boring suckups are the ones that need to be censored.
Hey, Jorge_Jorge
You make these blogs… well, a forum for your obsession and passive-aggressive behavior, which makes things interesting in a clinical sort of way. These same old boring suckups can’t truly appreciate your obsessiveness and passive-aggressiveness the way some us who may just share those qualities with you.
Trader Jack
September 21st, 2012
1:54 pm
nolie
A tort that involved a tart – the payment arrangements could prove to be interesting
Efrim
September 21st, 2012
1:55 pm
Martin Prado since August 12th: .320/.361/.483. 36 games, 160 PA’s
phil
September 21st, 2012
1:56 pm
ncscoots
September 21st, 2012
1:43 pm
nolie, I did start to do a joke post on torts/tarts, but phil’s had a kinda tuff morning.
****************
Not me! My morning was fine. I don’t know what the deal was with that Bob guy. Apparently he lives under the same roof with Tom oHawke since it drew the first post from him that I’ve seen here since March. Just bizarre.
And I tried to warn the guy to leave me alone….
ncscoots
September 21st, 2012
1:57 pm
Well, except for fencing or some crap like that!
Gotta get phil into a tunic and mask and get him dancing with a epee. See how long his lungs and legs hold out.
Jeff R
September 21st, 2012
1:59 pm
And I tried to warn the guy to leave me alone….
Never engage a lawyer head-on. It’s a war of maneuver.
ncscoots
September 21st, 2012
1:59 pm
Martin Prado since August 12th: .320/.361/.483. 36 games, 160 PA’s
What are his numbers in his third PA?
nolie
September 21st, 2012
1:59 pm
ooooh, I musta missed sumthang this am
phil
September 21st, 2012
2:00 pm
Scoots – Just ran 4 miles the other night….
Where’s that mask? lol
Arkansas Transplant
September 21st, 2012
2:00 pm
I might be a better bowler than him though.
P-Town Brave ©
September 21st, 2012
2:01 pm
AT-
Yeah, it looks favorable towards Hanson, especially when you consider Maholm’s last start was a good one….
BTW….
Quality starts %
Minor 14 of 28 (50%)
Hudson 13 of 26 (50%)
Maholm 17 of 29 (59%) 5 of 9 w/ ATL
Hanson 10 of 28 (36%)
Medlen 8 of 10 (80%)
So this should tell you a bit more about who is more reliable….in fact, this would suggest that Medlen and Maholm are the 2 more reliable pitchers to give you 6 and give the team the best chance to win…
BUT Minor has 9 QS since the ASB….so he has been great….
This tells me though that many overvalue Hudson because he’s good or bad on every other start and very inconsistent AND Tommy Hanson has just been flat out AWFUL this year
Efrim
September 21st, 2012
2:01 pm
What are his numbers in his third PA?
Awesome.
ncscoots
September 21st, 2012
2:01 pm
Never engage a lawyer head-on. It’s a war of maneuver.
You would think phil would love fencing: lunge, parry, reprise.
MFin04
September 21st, 2012
2:01 pm
“On pitches 76-100 Hanson allows a .380/.444/.643/1.088 line this year.”
Those numbers are generously low too, imagine if we made him actually pitch the whole 6th inning.
Tommy can win me over tonight, 6 innings and no homers given up and I’ll be his biggest fan.
Efrim
September 21st, 2012
2:02 pm
And by that, I mean that I have no idea what his numbers are I just love that you asked that question.
phil
September 21st, 2012
2:02 pm
not really, nolie….
Apparently the poor doof stayed up all night and was delirious, per o hawke.
You got me….
Jeff R
September 21st, 2012
2:02 pm
You would think phil would love fencing: lunge, parry, reprise.
Perish the thought!
TennesseePaul
September 21st, 2012
2:03 pm
there ain’t enough room on this page for a chart of the pitchers who fare worse on later appearances
There are a lot of them. Historically speaking, it’s not good overall. But historically speaking, Hansons 2012 split is bad. This is just not a good year for him. And that has more to do with taking him out in the 5th than the score of the game. The guy is usually at or near 100 pitches by the fifth because he is terribly inefficient… and by the time he gets that many pitches, hitters are squaring him up. Hence he gets the hook.
MFin04
September 21st, 2012
2:03 pm
The in-game stats recently provided some great stats. I do believe since the All-Star break Medlen has lowest ERA in NL and Minor has 3rd lowest. Still can’t believe Minor is under .500 though.
Efrim
September 21st, 2012
2:04 pm
Tommy can win me over tonight, 6 innings and no homers given up and I’ll be his biggest fan.
No you won’t. Just like TOBF, you can’t stop hating on Hanson. It will continue, even with a strong Hanson effort.
MFin04
September 21st, 2012
2:04 pm
Anyone see the consecutive posts with smileys? WAAYYY to much smiling going on.
TennesseePaul
September 21st, 2012
2:05 pm
with the exceptions that prove the rule.
Any chance to remind you that what I said earlier was true… get Medlen in the rotation and he’ll pitch his way to the hall of fame ( :
ncscoots
September 21st, 2012
2:06 pm
Perish the thought!
Actually, I guess in blog terms, “riposte” might be more appropriate than “reprise”, but you get the idea, LOL.
P-Town Brave ©
September 21st, 2012
2:07 pm
In fact, Hudson has had 6 QS since the ASB and is getting a whole run more support over the season than Minor…
We have scored 2 or less in 10 of Minor’s starts and only 6 of Hudsons….
In fact, if we scored 3 runs in any of those games, Minor would be 14-6 and not 9-10…..thus he is the tough luck loser and would look much better than some see him.
MFin04
September 21st, 2012
2:07 pm
“It will continue, even with a strong Hanson effort.”
I don’t consider 2 earned runs in the 5th or 6th inning a strong effort. Especially when the bullpen bails him out and keeps his ERA down in the 6th.
If he can go a whole game without giving up a homer and can get through the 6th completely, I will not say one bad word about him until his next start (which hopefully would be taken over by Sheets anyways.)
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 21st, 2012
2:07 pm
.272/.331/.445/.776
That’s MLB league average for SP when they go thru the order for the 3rd time. Lee, Hamels, Shields, and my man are all around that mark. Randall Delgado and Maholm too, as shown above. Huddy, Zito, and Minor are a bit above that. Hanson is waaaay off the pace.
Bat Masterson
September 21st, 2012
2:07 pm
I might be a better bowler than him though. _ AT
Who?
What did you roll last night? (Did you say last night?)
Arkansas Transplant
September 21st, 2012
2:08 pm
P-T, The scariest part of those numbers are, Maholm has probably put together his best season and yet still been just average. So, you pretty much seen all he can or might give you. Hanson on the other hand has in fact been better in the past and supposely working on a new delivery and yet still was out pitched by Maholm. I’d be more willing to take a chance that Hanson that he might be able to fix the problems ailling him than to bet my money on Maholm bringing much more than a number 4 or 5 starter.. just my opinion.
ncscoots
September 21st, 2012
2:08 pm
get Medlen in the rotation and he’ll pitch his way to the hall of fame
You should really, really hope that there is never a period when Little Game loses his command for a stretch.
That’s payback that no mama would want to see.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 21st, 2012
2:08 pm
.266/.326/.439/.765
MLB average for pitched 76-100….
Efrim
September 21st, 2012
2:09 pm
Hunter Pence has hit .257/.324/.425 this year and is set to make 13-14 million in arbitration for 2013.
Arkansas Transplant
September 21st, 2012
2:10 pm
Bat, actually last night wasn’t a very good night for me. I think I rolled 201, 193 and 169.
MFin04
September 21st, 2012
2:10 pm
Even when Tommy Hanson is on, he is nearly impossible to watch pitch.
chipontheroad
September 21st, 2012
2:10 pm
@ phil its the thing you want to jump off ,after reading some of the free speech
Arkansas Transplant
September 21st, 2012
2:10 pm
oh, I was speaking of Robert too, Bat. Just getting him going.
Efrim
September 21st, 2012
2:10 pm
(which hopefully would be taken over by Sheets anyways.)
Why would this happen? Especially if Hanson pitches well enough tonight?
phil
September 21st, 2012
2:11 pm
Maybe you guys should get VJ to clear up your fencing terms for ya…..after all, with his infinite wisdom in so many areas of life, I’m confident he can set us all straight in a hurry.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 21st, 2012
2:14 pm
No you won’t. Just like TOBF, you can’t stop hating on Hanson. It will continue, even with a strong Hanson effort.
Me? Hanson hater? I musta missed the memo. I’ve congratulated him for having some decent starts in September. It’s good to see. Still doesn’t erase the sukkage he did from May til August. I don’t see him being as tradeable as you do. Might he get traded? Yes. But most likely for a low-level, mid-ceiling prospect. His trends show him to be declining. I’d be wary of trading any true talent for that.
Tomawalkin
September 21st, 2012
2:14 pm
I have been around but haven’t posted in a while. This will be my last, don’t want to be part of a police state. When you start saying freedom of speech doesn’t apply here where does it end. Maybe it ends when David O’brien can no longer say anything about a braves player That his is in a slump etc.
In David O’brien’s own words he is a big boy who can take the pressure. He couldn’t take it from Huddy and now he has banned ace and George is next.
Utter nonsense and pathetic just pathetic. I am out and hope anyone else who is a Vet will follow suit. We fought and died for these freedoms. I don’t know if Mr. O’brien has served his country, I can only say I hope not with these type of views.