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David O'Brien
September 15th, 2012
1:37 pm
Braves activated Sheets from DL
Efrim
September 15th, 2012
1:38 pm
Braves have a 6 game lead for home field advantage in the one game Wild Card matchup. Braves have a 7 game lead for the 2nd Wild Card spot. 17 games to play.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 15th, 2012
1:40 pm
but our scouts question whether he plays hard every day and his general mindset.
Frank Wren, maybe? Stay away! Far far away!
DOB: Sheets will be pitching out of the ‘pen?
Efrim
September 15th, 2012
1:44 pm
Kris Medlen’s last 10 appearances: 65.2 IP, 45 hits, 6 ER, 9 BB’s, 71 K’s, 3 HR allowed, 0.82 ERA, .194/.224/.250 oppo. slash line.
George_George
September 15th, 2012
1:45 pm
Outta here for a while. Guess it dosn’t matter if we win ugly as long as we win the games.
brian
September 15th, 2012
1:47 pm
I guess FSU is not going to get tripped up by Wake Forest again this year. 38-0 in the 2nd quarter. Ouch
brian
September 15th, 2012
1:49 pm
I wonder if Sheets is on backup if Tommy has a bad start today. Can’t imagine Fredi will have much patience with Tommy since he has Sheets, Delgado, and Teheran all waiting in the wings.
Hopefully Tommy will build off his last outing
nolie
September 15th, 2012
1:50 pm
but our scouts question whether he plays hard every day and his general mindset;re BJ Upton
been saying what is in that article for years
nolie
September 15th, 2012
1:52 pm
FSU is not going to get tripped up by Wake Forest again this year. 38-0 in the 2nd quarter. Ouch
I warned scoots….
N8
September 15th, 2012
1:52 pm
Just noticed that Hanson’s ERA is 4.35.
Kenshin Kawakami’s ERA as a Brave over two years was 4.32. He was 8-22.
Wonder how many people think of Hanson in the same manner as KK?
Clearly Hanson is “cheaper” and has some upside if he can ever be healthy.
But just thought that put it in perspective a little bit.
monty
September 15th, 2012
1:52 pm
“And of course Medlen is 7-0 with an 0.82 ERA………”
And to think, none of this was in the forefront of FW’s or FG’s minds. They so wanted everyone else to be a starter other than Meds. Injuries and poor performances by the FO darlings made it where he could get his chance. FG and FW having anything to do with seeing Medlen as a bonafide starter is the equivalent of you or I walking down the street and a C-note sticking to our shoe and we try to shake it off as if it’s trash but the darn thing just keeps hanging tough till we have to reach down and pull it off to throw it away, that’s when we realize what we have in our possession.
nolie
September 15th, 2012
1:55 pm
give me a break, nobody on God’s green earth figgered Meds would pitch like this.
monty
September 15th, 2012
1:58 pm
Nobody in the BRaves FO or FG even figured MEds would make a decent starter, muuch less a great one, don’t hand me your straw man argument. You knew the point I was making.
ChattTownBrian
September 15th, 2012
1:59 pm
monty, it does make you question their intelligence. How often does this happen where a player is “kept down” and when forced to be given a real chance takes off?
count_schemula
September 15th, 2012
1:59 pm
McCutchen making a late MVP bid with another HR today. Pirates are fading and he cooled after the AS break, but he’s finishing strong.
MVP is Braun’s to lose.
nolie
September 15th, 2012
2:00 pm
the point you were making is nothing but your opinion and nothing else. you weren’t there so don’t talk like you were.
ChattTownBrian
September 15th, 2012
2:02 pm
nolie, yeah you’re right too. I just didn’t understand the whole thing when they brought him back from the minors to stretch him out that they sent him back to the pen. Hudson was saying though that when Medlen first came up to the bigs that a bunch of them already knew then he had some of the best stuff of any of their pitchers. They knew he could be real good, maybe not like this though.
ChattTownBrian
September 15th, 2012
2:05 pm
I think Sheets is just about finished, unfortunately. No way does his arm hold up, though I ain’t no psychic, but his history and now probably proves my opinion right. Betting he walks away for good after this season.
monty
September 15th, 2012
2:06 pm
CTB
Everyone knew he could start because he had before his injury and was very decent, but no one in the org figured him to be ahead of Delgado,Minor, Teheran, or anyone else probably in AAA , he was just an after thought, someone to have in case someone went down or someone who could start in a pinch. He’s always had pretty good numbers coming out of AAA even better than Tehran’s or Degado’s numbers, he just didn’t throw 94 and wasn’t 6 ft. tall.
nolie
September 15th, 2012
2:07 pm
not saying they did not misjudge him some, but he is not gonna continue in this vein the rest of his career almost certainly, and yes it happens a lot. much of his success is mental and that is much harder to judge than the physical anyway. but all one has to do is look back through every team’s draft choices to see how many early round picks fail, to see that it is a long way from perfect.The guy we missed for Chipper was supposed to be all world. Bruce Chen was listed as the # 4 best prospect in baseball in AAA. happens all the damn time. always will happen
John Leonard
September 15th, 2012
2:08 pm
I was probably one of Meds biggest supporters and I never thought he would hit this bad.
monty
September 15th, 2012
2:09 pm
Nolie
So it’s your opinion that the FO was high on Medlen, even higher than RD,JT, and MM? You don’t believe that for a second. You just want to argue about something. GO find another sucker.
abeeeewright
September 15th, 2012
2:10 pm
Need some examples of “kept down” players to bolster the “FO are idjits ” argument.
Meds, of course, had a position on the team from the start of ST. Hard to describe as “kept down.”
ChattTownBrian
September 15th, 2012
2:11 pm
nolie, I think a lot of his success comes from his stuff. If he can keep commanding that 2 seamer and offspeed stuff consistantly I see no reason he can’t be a top rotation guy for a long time. No I don’t think he keeps pitching like he is now or anything, but they can’t take away all that filth he throws.
count_schemula
September 15th, 2012
2:11 pm
From an old scouting report: “Medlen has a quality three-pitch mix — a better than average fastball, a plus curveball, and a solid-average change-up. The development of his change-up has been key to his success as a starter.”
I did not think he had the mix to go through lineups nor the stamina to go 7. I was wrong about that. And it’s not really his “stuff” and it rarely is. His mindset is that of a starter, and we all know that know.
ChattTownBrian
September 15th, 2012
2:13 pm
He is a mental giant though and you can tell that just from watching on tv. That has to help him a lot. But being that way and nit picking to death like Hanson does wouldn’t bring much success.
ChattTownBrian
September 15th, 2012
2:17 pm
One more thing on Medlen before I have to get ready for work – he knows how to pitch. He isn’t just throwing and hoping. Last night you watched him carve up the best lineup in baseball right now because he was pitching up, down, left, right and changing speeds. Pretty sure he went in with a plan and stuck with it. He’s no chicken shi* and that helps, I know.
count_schemula
September 15th, 2012
2:18 pm
I thought if he attacked the play this much, he would get hit harder.
Same rules for everyone and not everyone can do it – up down in out slow fast hit your spots and you will have success.
count_schemula
September 15th, 2012
2:18 pm
lol
Typical Idiot Blogger
September 15th, 2012
2:22 pm
But I knew it! I knew in 2010 that Medlen was the new Pedro! Seriously!
abeeeewright
September 15th, 2012
2:22 pm
Saying “all you have to do is hit your spots” is alot like saying “all you have to do is throw 99 mph with movement.”
Easier said than done.
cowdogit
September 15th, 2012
2:24 pm
When I talk about another bloger it’s all in fun, I never get personal, no one takes me serious. Go Braves”
nolie
September 15th, 2012
2:25 pm
So it’s your opinion that the FO was high on Medlen…monty
where did I say that? I don’t think he was considered as a starter early because of coming back from injury, and whether they say anything or not it is common practice to limit a returning player’s IPs. so why would they not do so whether they checked it out with the blog or not.
What I am mostly saying is that none of us know what they thought or how much they misjudged him, they prolly did to some extent, but it is no big surprise if they did. It happens a lot and it’s not like he was all that great B4 with an EA of over 4 as a starter. on top of which it is very common to pay more attention to your high profile prospects above others
Kat
September 15th, 2012
2:26 pm
Wonder if we’ll ever find out why the Braves have stopped their organist from playing…. curious as to why just now .. someone must have an issue with something he played.
count_schemula
September 15th, 2012
2:31 pm
“Easier said than done.”
I readily admitted that.
N8
September 15th, 2012
2:33 pm
“give me a break, nobody on God’s green earth figgered Meds would pitch like this”
Yeah, I agree. Even in 1994 when Maddux had his incredible year, I don’t think anybody actually expected HIM to do it again and he had won 3 consecutive Cy Young awards.
That being said, even before Meds’ injury, I liked how poised he was and how efficient he was on the mound, and felt long term he’d likely be more steady than Hanson.
Hanson had all the tools and the arm to get all the attention, but ultimately, Hanson has NEVER had the command that Medlen has (or had before).
I’m not silly enough to think Medlen will win the Cy Young next year and have an ERA under 2.00.
But I don’t think it’s out of line to think if healthy, he’ll win 15-20 games and be the Ace of the staff. Mentally, despite his age, he appears to be a born leader that young guys will follow as far as work ethic and preparation.
Way too early to compare his overall body of work to Maddux. But right now, he very much reminds me of Maddux. And that’s a GREAT thing for the Braves.
Even when “on his game” Jair Jurrjens never gave me that feeling. He was always one pitch away from giving up a big inning. He never made you feel like he was in complete control, even though the results were often very very good.
Medlen gives you the impression that the game is going EXACTLY how he planned it and his executtion of his pitches and gameplan seem flawless right now.
Just a joy to watch.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
September 15th, 2012
2:35 pm
Maybe he was tipping off the opposing team by playing “Born to Run” everytime Bourn was about to attempt a steal…
David O'Brien
September 15th, 2012
2:35 pm
Sheets available out of bullpen, no set role though.
David O'Brien
September 15th, 2012
2:37 pm
September 15th, 2012
12:41 pm
I am here, just over slept a bit, getting to be like DOB. LOL georgie
Hey, old obsessive fella, I got home from game at 1 a.m., was on the bike at 7:45 a.m. headed to BBQ festival judges meeting. We’d probably already finished judging the contest before you woke up. Got back to ballpark at 12:30 p.m., will be here till about 9 if a normal game.
Enjoy your weekend off, you and ace. Some of us work weekends. (And by the way, do you guys do anything besides play on the Internet all day?)
Later.
nolie
September 15th, 2012
2:38 pm
good thoughts N8
nolie
September 15th, 2012
2:39 pm
Kat
September 15th, 2012
2:41 pm
DOB @ 2:37 pm
Truth is refreshing, love it David!
George_George
September 15th, 2012
2:47 pm
David O’Brien
September 15th, 2012
2:37 pm
September 15th, 2012
12:41 pm
I am here, just over slept a bit, getting to be like DOB. LOL georgie
****************************************************************
The above was just funning with you. kinda keeping the thing going.
Couch Tater
September 15th, 2012
2:50 pm
Braves have stopped their organist from playing…. curious as to why just now .. someone must have an issue with something he played.
I’m wondering, too.
Kat
September 15th, 2012
2:52 pm
Couch Tater .. people have asked him on Twitter about it but he says he can’t say why.
ChattTownBrian
September 15th, 2012
2:54 pm
Hanson – 5 2/3 IP, 4 ER, 2 BB, 4 K. Braves win 6-5.
Enjoy the win everybody.
George_George
September 15th, 2012
2:56 pm
What do you folks mean? They stopped him playing before the game this afternoon?
George_George
September 15th, 2012
2:58 pm
Wonder if anyone thinks ACE and George are the same person?
Couch Tater
September 15th, 2012
3:00 pm
Kat –
Let’s raise hell. That’s worse than keeping Medlen in the bullpen or Jeff Francouer in rightfield for a whole year. We have our excuse to be haters.
Braves Marketing – WTF???
DiamondbackMac
September 15th, 2012
3:04 pm
Expensive meal.
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/crime-law/man-killed-by-truck-after-allegedly-running-from-w/nSB9m/?src=cb_article
brian
September 15th, 2012
3:05 pm
nolie – the only way I would sign BJ Upton is if I traded for Justin Upton as well
Couch Tater
September 15th, 2012
3:07 pm
Last night, George.
Couch Tater
September 15th, 2012
3:08 pm
Diamondback – you watching the plains?
DiamondbackMac
September 15th, 2012
3:11 pm
Couch Tater
I’m a Bama fan. But, yep I’m watching it.
Couch Tater
September 15th, 2012
3:16 pm
I remember. Bama ‘79. RTR.
DiamondbackMac
September 15th, 2012
3:20 pm
79 is about when I would have graduated if I had finished high school and gone on to college.
We must be about the same age.
cabravesfan
September 15th, 2012
3:22 pm
79 was the year I was born
DiamondbackMac
September 15th, 2012
3:24 pm
cab
I bet you were a beautiful baby.
cabravesfan
September 15th, 2012
3:24 pm
D’backMac -
I was
DiamondbackMac
September 15th, 2012
3:30 pm
Couch Tater
This ULM team is surprising.
Bay Area Steve
September 15th, 2012
3:32 pm
“Wonder if anyone thinks ACE and George are the same person?”
Don’t think that went unnoticed, George. Maybe you can try a new character, now. ‘Cause this one blows.
Veer
September 15th, 2012
3:39 pm
Hanson Prediction
5.2 Innings 3 runs 4 hits 2 walks 6 strikeouts. No decsion
George_George
September 15th, 2012
3:54 pm
Cletus Van Damme
September 15th, 2012
3:45 pm
Thanks for heads up . I just saw end of game.
Dave
September 15th, 2012
3:56 pm
@Cletus Van Damme….Braves already did the smart thing last off-season and offered Cody Ross a contract. Cody chose to go to the Red Sox instead of the braves cause he felt they were in a better position to win.
Trader Jack
September 15th, 2012
3:56 pm
Couch Tater
September 15th, 2012
2:50 pm
Braves have stopped their organist from playing…. curious as to why just now .. someone must have an issue with something he played.
Player/Coach Reggie Dunlop, “Don’t ever play Lady of Spain again!!!”
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
September 15th, 2012
3:58 pm
“Then again, many in Braves land are fixated on Matt Diaz….I wouldnt be surprised to see Braves fans on here clamor for Diaz to be given a 3 year $21 mil contract.”
It might be because Heyward, Freeman, Mccann, and Francisco are hitting a collective .162 against lefties with about 7 homeruns.
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
September 15th, 2012
4:01 pm
Sheets needs to be ready to go today. Hanson is a 4-5 inning pitcher at this point in the season.
Tomahawk Mafia
September 15th, 2012
4:02 pm
I’d say the predictions about Hanson’s pitching line today are pretty accurate. I’d say 5 innings 3 ER 4BB 4 K.
Capt.Mudd
September 15th, 2012
4:06 pm
Real good college games so far:) ….here we go Bravos.
Bat Masterson
September 15th, 2012
4:07 pm
Then again, many in Braves land are fixated on Matt Diaz….I wouldnt be surprised to see Braves fans on here clamor for Diaz to be given a 3 year $21 mil contract.
If you truly Believe that Paul its because you live in a crazy imaginary world of your own making.
Dave
September 15th, 2012
4:07 pm
He took a 1 year 3 mil contract by the Red Sox. He turned down a multi-yea contract offer from the Braves. Not sure where you read Cody turned down the offer from the Braves because they didn’t offer enough money. All reports I read said it was because Cody felt he had a better opportunity in Boston.
Hanson or Hanson Pitching?
September 15th, 2012
4:08 pm
Anyone surprised Tommy starts out by going full count then groving one?
Capt.Mudd
September 15th, 2012
4:08 pm
Boo Birds out or am I hearing things?
Hanson or Hanson Pitching?
September 15th, 2012
4:10 pm
Is it a rule that unless you are Medlen and sometimes Hudson, if you pitch for the Braves you HAVE to pitch from behind???
Tomahawk Mafia
September 15th, 2012
4:10 pm
Hanson throws five pitches to the leadoff man and allows a single. He is the most frustrating Braves starting pitcher to watch since Kenshin Kawakami.
Kat
September 15th, 2012
4:10 pm
Hmm the site I use to watch FOX blacked out games has a soccer game on instead of the Braves… hopefully it will be updated soon.
Kat
September 15th, 2012
4:13 pm
Site works now.. in case anyone is blacked out http://www.vipboxsports.eu/watch/73129/1/atlanta-braves-vs-washington-nationals-live-stream-online.html
Tomahawk Mafia
September 15th, 2012
4:13 pm
Hanson appears to be struggling with his command today. That is an inauspicious start.
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
September 15th, 2012
4:13 pm
Hanson is getting umpjacked. That’s two right down the middle that weren’t called. No noise from Fredi.
Bat Masterson
September 15th, 2012
4:14 pm
What the hell was wrong with that curve, blue?
VaBravesFan
September 15th, 2012
4:15 pm
HAHAHAHA Hanson won’t even make it to the 5th inning. He’s a lost cause.
Hanson or Hanson Pitching?
September 15th, 2012
4:16 pm
Tommy tosses another hanger. Pencil him in to underachieve. Can he be moved this off season? Please? It’s a service to get rid of Boros guys anyway.
brian
September 15th, 2012
4:16 pm
That pitch was hung to LaRoche
Tomahawk Mafia
September 15th, 2012
4:17 pm
Hanson is so frustrating another homerun allowed and yet another early potentially insurmountable deficit against the Nationals.
Capt.Mudd
September 15th, 2012
4:17 pm
Get his____ out; he has the repetitive nature to______________________.
VaBravesFan
September 15th, 2012
4:18 pm
2 runs is plenty to beat us.
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
September 15th, 2012
4:19 pm
Maybe a good deficit will get the offense going.
Bat Masterson
September 15th, 2012
4:19 pm
Okay guys time to bring some offense, damnit
Capt.Mudd
September 15th, 2012
4:20 pm
A fan from Cowpens, SC just dropped his milkshake on his girlfriend after that hit.
David O'Brien
September 15th, 2012
4:21 pm
NEW BLOGGAGE
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/09/15/someday-braves-medlen-little-doggie-must-lose-again/
SOS Braves
September 15th, 2012
4:21 pm
Did anyone on this blog expect anything but a loss today with Hanson on the mound?
VaBravesFan
September 15th, 2012
4:21 pm
Prado is hitting 30 points better than Bourn and has about 100 less strikeouts but is only about 7 points better in OBP
Tomahawk Mafia
September 15th, 2012
4:21 pm
Bourn is up to his old tricks already. He either basically only grounds weakly to the right side, strikes out, or pops weakly to left field.
Ryan
September 15th, 2012
4:23 pm
Hey Boras we have two of your worthless cleints that you can try and get big bucks for this winter. Hanson should never pitch another game for the Braves again.
Hanson or Hanson Pitching?
September 15th, 2012
4:23 pm
I see the name “FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ”
Tell ya what, fire the under achievers! Hanson, Uggla, McCann, Venters and put a few other ones on that wagon. Keep the young guys and Prado and blow this dumpster fire up!
SOS Braves
September 15th, 2012
4:24 pm
Ryan. Amen!!!!
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
September 15th, 2012
4:24 pm
Walk, 1st pitch swinging out with an ump that isn’t calling anything a strike.
Tommy Hanson
September 15th, 2012
4:24 pm
God I’m terrible. I’m the absolute worst. At least you won’t have to see me in the playoffs, Braves fans (if I don’t singlehandedly keep us out of the postseason).
SOS Braves
September 15th, 2012
4:25 pm
Typical Braves 1st inning. And of course McFat grounds out to the right side.
SOS Braves
September 15th, 2012
4:28 pm
Hanson. You have turned to crap quicker than Derek Lowe.