how can you win games when your players don”t swing their bats?.all go up to the plate looking for a walk.michael bourne is not a leadoff hitter.he should be hitting 8th.none of the players except jason heyward care about winning.different year but same results, braves will miss the playoffs again with freddie gonzalez
we need to be careful with all the crying about swinging the bats, that I will agree with the rah-rah crowd on. this team strikes out more than enough as it is. If anything we need our hitter to be more aggressive early in the count and then tighten up when behind in the count. simply saying they need to swing the bats more is a dangerous proposition with this team…
Bravesfan – Tumbledown, the best response I can give you is to batten down the hatches and prepare for another decade of second place division finishes and otherwise mediocre results, because that’s what your attitude will get you…
Sorry everyone. I have been informed me that my attitude has condemned the Braves to many years of mediocrity. I sincerely and wholeheartedly apologize for having the audacity to express cautious optimism concerning the Braves this year. You all probably thought that the Braves’ future would hinge on player execution (including timely hitting and shutdown pitching), payroll matters, player development, wise personnel decisions in free agency, strong leadership from the top to the bottom of the organization, good managerial decision-making, and player execution relative to the other teams. You would be wrong. At the very least, you can now stop blaming Fredi for any problems.
Reckingball, longtimefan, lobosolo … Be careful with your attitudes. Your positive outlook and optimism concerning the Braves may cause them to plummet even further down the division.
Sorry all I made a _uckin mistake. You Southerns, no patience or are you still mad about the Civil War?
You can’t scroll down a few inches and survive the inconvenience.
I went to 13 Braves games this year on the road. You Atlanta folks turn out for the games and make some _oddam noise,show some passion!.
It very well may sir, much as I hate to give credit to Yankees fans for ANYTHING, there is a reason that it is the most successful franchise in sports history, their fans demand that it should be. I’m not alone in my view of this Tumbledown, most baseball folks agree on that one. Atlanta has accepted mediocrity for so long, the city really doesn’t expect anything else. Demand more I say, of the reporters who cover the team, the FO staff that fields the team, the coaching staff that dictates who plays where and how often, and the players themselves. Dan Uggla should have been run out of this town on a rail, it would ALREADY have happened in NYC or Boston….
@FrankShab– No civil war sympathy here; From Indy, your attitude, blaming people and attempt at language shows a lot about your loser mentality… Keep your stuff in PA…
Let’s face it right now the team stinks. Pitchers know if they give up more than one run they are probably going to lose. Don’t forget if the Rockies don’t absolutely give Braves those two wins it’s even worse. If I am playing Braves I call up 3 class A lefthanded pitchers and sit back and enjoy my weekend watching batter after batter swing at garbage in the dirt. If by some unlikel chance they do make it to the wildcard game no way they win
IF the Nats sweep the Braves this weekend, as seems possible, the club might not even get one of the two wild cards and go home at the end of the regular season. The Nats are relaxed, with a divcision title in their pockets. The Braves seem very tight, playing UNrelaxed. No matter what they say publically, last season’s epic foldup has an effect. As individuals, the Braves are good ML players and, on other teams, would be more successful. However, as a GROUP, they seem to be a bad fit, just not a good combination of talent to play clutch September baseball. In September, the good teams find a way to WIN, but the Braves seem to seek ways to lose, like in Milwaukee, bad baserunning, bad fielding, bad hitting, bad pitching. one or the other or all of them. They might be the “boys of July,” but they do not seem to be “the boys of September,” when it really counts.
Bravesfan – In all seriousness, all I am trying to do is express a guarded optimistic outlook for the Braves for this late season stretch of games. The die has been cast as far as the players that are on the team now through the rest of the season. Fredi will not be fired before the season’s end. Wren will make no more roster moves. The team will remain under corporate control. Whether I agree or not, I cannot control any of these items that constitute the Braves’ present situation as of September 14, 2012.
I choose to have a positive outlook at this point. I have complained enough in the past about the Braves. I am sure Reckingball and other posters may remember me as decrying that the Braves would sink like the Titanic after the early season slow start. At the trading deadline, I called for the Braves to make a bold move and go after either Greinke or perhaps make a play for Felix Hernandez. I felt they needed that stud pitcher particularly for the one-game playoff and beyond. I advocated going all in for this season (mortgaging some of the future for a championship this year), especially since pieces like Bourn and Chipper (who were playing great at that time) would not be here next year.
I remember last year vividly. I remember having this sinking feeling after the Braves blew a late lead against St. Louis. I remember hating to the core every moment of last year’s collapse. In short, I completely lost the joy of watching my favorite baseball team compete because of the collapse and prior post-season failings. That is a terrible personal price to pay as a sports fan, essentially losing the joy in your favorite team.
But, I cannot control the fact they are operating under soulless corporate ownership. If had the money, I would buy the team and make sure the team had all the resourses necessary to compete year in and year out for a World Series title. I do not have that money. I cannot control that several of the Braves’ big moves have not panned out. The Texiera gambit failed. Lowe and especially Kawakami bombed. The Uggla trade appears to be a bust. I wish I had the answers for how a team with a modest amount of resources should best compete against financial heavyweights like the Yankees, Phillies, Dodgers, and even the Nats.
If you think my attitude is one of accepting mediocrity, Bravesfan, you are sorely mistaken. Let us see how this plays out. Lesser teams than the Braves have risen in all sports to claim championships. Being unnecessarily negative and hurling personal insults solves nothing at this point. When this season is over, then the debate on how to carry on should begin in earnest. If the Braves finish poorly, rest assured I will advocate certain changes. I hope I have cut through some of my crap and clarified things for you and others.
I can understand what you are saying and I can agree with it.
At seasons end no matter how this turns out, short of a NL championship series Fredi is gone. I also believe JJ is gone as well as Bourn, Hanson, Hinski and Uggla. I believe BMac will be back. Janish maybe be back for a ss back-up or at least in our AAA system. I think you will see the Braves trade for a CFer.
This team is limping home and the one good legs is hurting (pitching) thanks to the bad one (hitting). If they make the playoffs, it is unlikely that get past the play-in game without a great pitching performance. Then it is over.
After Bourn walks , lets get a spunky CF like Carlos Gomez or trade pitching prospects to Colorodo for Carlos Gonzalez. Rox would love Delgado, Teheran or somebody similar
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY DO WE KEEP SENDING TOMMY YOU SUCK HANSON TO THE HILL? TOMMY HANSON SUCKS, TOMMY HANSON SUCKS, TOMMY HANSON SUCKS A BIG ONE!!!!!!!
FREEMAN legs out a TRIPLE. are you kidding me? it took the ball getting sucked under that padding and hugging the wall for it to happen. But there he stands, at third base.
126 comments Add your comment
cdog
September 14th, 2012
11:54 am
how can you win games when your players don”t swing their bats?.all go up to the plate looking for a walk.michael bourne is not a leadoff hitter.he should be hitting 8th.none of the players except jason heyward care about winning.different year but same results, braves will miss the playoffs again with freddie gonzalez
BravesFanSince80s
September 14th, 2012
12:07 pm
we need to be careful with all the crying about swinging the bats, that I will agree with the rah-rah crowd on. this team strikes out more than enough as it is. If anything we need our hitter to be more aggressive early in the count and then tighten up when behind in the count. simply saying they need to swing the bats more is a dangerous proposition with this team…
Playoffs!!!
September 14th, 2012
12:33 pm
Yes, let’s clinch this Wild Card spot EARLY enough so we can have Medlen start. Then Hudson can start the opener in Round 2.
Tumbledown
September 14th, 2012
12:57 pm
Bravesfan – Tumbledown, the best response I can give you is to batten down the hatches and prepare for another decade of second place division finishes and otherwise mediocre results, because that’s what your attitude will get you…
Sorry everyone. I have been informed me that my attitude has condemned the Braves to many years of mediocrity. I sincerely and wholeheartedly apologize for having the audacity to express cautious optimism concerning the Braves this year. You all probably thought that the Braves’ future would hinge on player execution (including timely hitting and shutdown pitching), payroll matters, player development, wise personnel decisions in free agency, strong leadership from the top to the bottom of the organization, good managerial decision-making, and player execution relative to the other teams. You would be wrong. At the very least, you can now stop blaming Fredi for any problems.
Reckingball, longtimefan, lobosolo … Be careful with your attitudes. Your positive outlook and optimism concerning the Braves may cause them to plummet even further down the division.
Frank Shab in PA
September 14th, 2012
12:58 pm
Sorry all I made a _uckin mistake. You Southerns, no patience or are you still mad about the Civil War?
You can’t scroll down a few inches and survive the inconvenience.
I went to 13 Braves games this year on the road. You Atlanta folks turn out for the games and make some _oddam noise,show some passion!.
Tumbledown
September 14th, 2012
12:59 pm
Will someone get me a proof reader. Geez!
Nothing can stop us were Atlanta'a Air Force, Nothing Can Stop Us Nothing Can Stop Us Nothing Can Stop Us Were Atlanta's Air Force GO HAWKS!!!
September 14th, 2012
1:20 pm
Actually tonight I would watch the braves but will DVR because Resident Evil Retribution comes out whooo hooo
BravesFanSince80s
September 14th, 2012
1:42 pm
It very well may sir, much as I hate to give credit to Yankees fans for ANYTHING, there is a reason that it is the most successful franchise in sports history, their fans demand that it should be. I’m not alone in my view of this Tumbledown, most baseball folks agree on that one. Atlanta has accepted mediocrity for so long, the city really doesn’t expect anything else. Demand more I say, of the reporters who cover the team, the FO staff that fields the team, the coaching staff that dictates who plays where and how often, and the players themselves. Dan Uggla should have been run out of this town on a rail, it would ALREADY have happened in NYC or Boston….
Miami Dave
September 14th, 2012
2:07 pm
@FrankShab– No civil war sympathy here; From Indy, your attitude, blaming people and attempt at language shows a lot about your loser mentality… Keep your stuff in PA…
Dan
September 14th, 2012
2:21 pm
Let’s face it right now the team stinks. Pitchers know if they give up more than one run they are probably going to lose. Don’t forget if the Rockies don’t absolutely give Braves those two wins it’s even worse. If I am playing Braves I call up 3 class A lefthanded pitchers and sit back and enjoy my weekend watching batter after batter swing at garbage in the dirt. If by some unlikel chance they do make it to the wildcard game no way they win
BillEGoat
September 14th, 2012
2:30 pm
IF the Nats sweep the Braves this weekend, as seems possible, the club might not even get one of the two wild cards and go home at the end of the regular season. The Nats are relaxed, with a divcision title in their pockets. The Braves seem very tight, playing UNrelaxed. No matter what they say publically, last season’s epic foldup has an effect. As individuals, the Braves are good ML players and, on other teams, would be more successful. However, as a GROUP, they seem to be a bad fit, just not a good combination of talent to play clutch September baseball. In September, the good teams find a way to WIN, but the Braves seem to seek ways to lose, like in Milwaukee, bad baserunning, bad fielding, bad hitting, bad pitching. one or the other or all of them. They might be the “boys of July,” but they do not seem to be “the boys of September,” when it really counts.
Mitchell
September 14th, 2012
2:54 pm
Mitchell
September 14th, 2012
4:09 am
The Braves aren’t gonna score.
Medley loses.
Y and N aren’t nearly close enough to one another to make that mistake.
I’m embarrassed.
All I know is if Medley does lose tonight, well, that would suck.
Tumbledown
September 14th, 2012
3:09 pm
Bravesfan – In all seriousness, all I am trying to do is express a guarded optimistic outlook for the Braves for this late season stretch of games. The die has been cast as far as the players that are on the team now through the rest of the season. Fredi will not be fired before the season’s end. Wren will make no more roster moves. The team will remain under corporate control. Whether I agree or not, I cannot control any of these items that constitute the Braves’ present situation as of September 14, 2012.
I choose to have a positive outlook at this point. I have complained enough in the past about the Braves. I am sure Reckingball and other posters may remember me as decrying that the Braves would sink like the Titanic after the early season slow start. At the trading deadline, I called for the Braves to make a bold move and go after either Greinke or perhaps make a play for Felix Hernandez. I felt they needed that stud pitcher particularly for the one-game playoff and beyond. I advocated going all in for this season (mortgaging some of the future for a championship this year), especially since pieces like Bourn and Chipper (who were playing great at that time) would not be here next year.
I remember last year vividly. I remember having this sinking feeling after the Braves blew a late lead against St. Louis. I remember hating to the core every moment of last year’s collapse. In short, I completely lost the joy of watching my favorite baseball team compete because of the collapse and prior post-season failings. That is a terrible personal price to pay as a sports fan, essentially losing the joy in your favorite team.
But, I cannot control the fact they are operating under soulless corporate ownership. If had the money, I would buy the team and make sure the team had all the resourses necessary to compete year in and year out for a World Series title. I do not have that money. I cannot control that several of the Braves’ big moves have not panned out. The Texiera gambit failed. Lowe and especially Kawakami bombed. The Uggla trade appears to be a bust. I wish I had the answers for how a team with a modest amount of resources should best compete against financial heavyweights like the Yankees, Phillies, Dodgers, and even the Nats.
If you think my attitude is one of accepting mediocrity, Bravesfan, you are sorely mistaken. Let us see how this plays out. Lesser teams than the Braves have risen in all sports to claim championships. Being unnecessarily negative and hurling personal insults solves nothing at this point. When this season is over, then the debate on how to carry on should begin in earnest. If the Braves finish poorly, rest assured I will advocate certain changes. I hope I have cut through some of my crap and clarified things for you and others.
southgabrave
September 14th, 2012
6:15 pm
@Tumbledown
I can understand what you are saying and I can agree with it.
At seasons end no matter how this turns out, short of a NL championship series Fredi is gone. I also believe JJ is gone as well as Bourn, Hanson, Hinski and Uggla. I believe BMac will be back. Janish maybe be back for a ss back-up or at least in our AAA system. I think you will see the Braves trade for a CFer.
This team is limping home and the one good legs is hurting (pitching) thanks to the bad one (hitting). If they make the playoffs, it is unlikely that get past the play-in game without a great pitching performance. Then it is over.
Jasons Shrinking Waist
September 14th, 2012
10:14 pm
Hmm…funny how the Mets can blow out Milwaukee but we cant
Jasons Shrinking Waist
September 14th, 2012
10:20 pm
After Bourn walks , lets get a spunky CF like Carlos Gomez or trade pitching prospects to Colorodo for Carlos Gonzalez. Rox would love Delgado, Teheran or somebody similar
jonathan
September 15th, 2012
4:44 pm
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY DO WE KEEP SENDING TOMMY YOU SUCK HANSON TO THE HILL? TOMMY HANSON SUCKS, TOMMY HANSON SUCKS, TOMMY HANSON SUCKS A BIG ONE!!!!!!!
David O'Brien
September 15th, 2012
4:45 pm
FREEMAN legs out a TRIPLE. are you kidding me? it took the ball getting sucked under that padding and hugging the wall for it to happen. But there he stands, at third base.
David O'Brien
September 15th, 2012
4:46 pm
And after Freeman triples, Uggla goes opposite-field double. Stop the world and let me off!
David O'Brien
September 15th, 2012
4:55 pm
Ross in to catch in 3rd inning. No announcement yet about McCann.
David O'Brien
September 15th, 2012
6:00 pm
The big man let loose some thunder. And we’re tied.
David O'Brien
September 15th, 2012
6:07 pm
Freeman only needs a double for the cycle now.
David O'Brien
September 15th, 2012
7:09 pm
I’m sure that on our always positive-leaning blog, no one said this game was over early on, right?
David O'Brien
September 15th, 2012
7:17 pm
Braves up 5-4 with Kimbrel coming in to do his thing in the 9th
David O'Brien
September 15th, 2012
8:44 pm
UPDATED game story with quotes
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/09/15/braves-beat-nats-5-4-on-a-hit-jersey-er-batter/
Gratis icone soft for W8
September 25th, 2012
3:46 pm
Very amusing question