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jeffrey d
September 14th, 2012
12:30 pm
Every level I’ve ever been at, 69 and below is failing.
MFin04
September 14th, 2012
12:30 pm
“Wren needs to get Jason locked up. Gonna be hard seeing the Braves keep him for another contract. The guy could easily be one of the best players in baseball in no time”
He could be, he also could turn into that injury prone player that he was all of last year.
Side note: I noticed Jason’s middle name changed on baseball-reference too? Strange.
Lew
September 14th, 2012
12:32 pm
LJ – I get a different package – The MLB Extra Innings package on cable through Comcast. I get all the games every day (unless Fox is broadcasting on Saturday), but only rarely are both team’s feeds on at any given time.
Efrim
September 14th, 2012
12:33 pm
There really aren’t many going year to year and becoming free agents after six years. It’s rare now. And the elite players are being locked up. You don’t see free agents at 26 years old unless they are a Scott Boras client like Alex Rodriguez or Prince Fielder. I have a lot of confidence that Jason Heyward will come to some sort of an agreement with the Braves. Casey Close isn’t Scott Boras.
VaBravesFan
September 14th, 2012
12:35 pm
Efrim
Do you think after the 2013 season would be the time to lock Freeman up? His contract would be a little less right? Certainly doesn’t have the overall tools of Heyward.
JoeFan
September 14th, 2012
12:35 pm
The Braves are a very boring team and its reflected in the way they are managed and the way they go about playing the game. They appear to have no sense of urgency. There is no underlying excitement to the team. They are very, very fortunate there is a wildcard(s) and that they are in contention for one of them..
Efrim
September 14th, 2012
12:35 pm
The Marlins want a legitimate power bat at third base, especially if they open the season with Donovan Solano at second. Miami is expected to consider a variety of options for third base, Capozzi writes
Every team is looking for a long term answer at 3rd base. It’s insane. Just not a lot out there any longer and it’s why I want Prado at 3rd base. It’s why the Padres aren’t trading Chase Headley and why the Mets are going to give David Wright whatever he wants.
Bat Masterson
September 14th, 2012
12:36 pm
Sure, George.
Five years @ $50ish. Sure, I would do that. Option years, maybe one.
Efrim
September 14th, 2012
12:37 pm
Honestly, Va, I’d look at extending Freeman at a lesser contract as well this winter. Braves have zero dollars after 2015 and only Uggla’s 13.2 in 2014 and 2015. They should be looking at locking their current players up.
VaBravesFan
September 14th, 2012
12:38 pm
Ah, a contract similar to the one we gave McCann makes alot of sense for Freeman.
Efrim
September 14th, 2012
12:39 pm
Five years, 48 million with a club option for 14 million(2 million buyout). Something like that for Jason.
jeffrey d
September 14th, 2012
12:40 pm
Bat – I shut down my laptop before I could respond, but your comment last night made me laugh out loud
David O'Brien
September 14th, 2012
12:41 pm
Braves have slipped to 30th in majors in avg. w/RISP at .231, below Cubs (.232), Indians (.232), Padres (.234), Marlins (.234), Astros (.237) — everyone.
Croaker
September 14th, 2012
12:42 pm
How bout a new blog Dave?
CB
September 14th, 2012
12:42 pm
jeffrey, I thought it was pretty funny even if Bat ia a pervert.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 14th, 2012
12:43 pm
.230… yikes. Kudos to our pitching. All the teams listed above are not going to the playoffs. When we get there though, we need to hit with RISP. Pitchers that get to pitch/start in the playoffs are really good.
MFin04
September 14th, 2012
12:44 pm
I’m hoping they lock up Medlen long-term. Something around 5 years/ $100 million.
Bat Masterson
September 14th, 2012
12:48 pm
Thanks, jeffrey. ( for whichever comment it was)
Ah gee, thanks, CB.
NO MORE FREDI
September 14th, 2012
12:48 pm
Braves lose 2 of 3 to Nats this series. Come on Phillies! Kill off fat Fredi in Atlanta.
NO MORE FREDI
September 14th, 2012
12:51 pm
Braves have slipped to 30th in majors in avg. w/RISP at .231, below Cubs (.232), Indians (.232), Padres (.234), Marlins (.234), Astros (.237) — everyone. – DOB
I said in May the thing that was going to kill us this year was RISP. The blog bandits jumped all over me saying teams that get more runners on base leave more runners on. Sometimes I wonder how many people on here actually know about baseball or just come on here to talk because they are old and lonely.
MFin04
September 14th, 2012
12:51 pm
I don’t understand the hate for Fredi. He’s like Bobby Cox only makes better bullpen decisions and will actually change up the lineup when need be.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 14th, 2012
12:52 pm
I’d give him a 6th year, MFin…
MFin04
September 14th, 2012
12:57 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan – So like buy 5 years, get one free kinda thing? I think he’d probably go for that.
raleighbravefan
September 14th, 2012
12:57 pm
JoeFan – Only a FOOL who thought so little of the Braves, would continue to follow the team, or waste time on this blog.
CB
September 14th, 2012
12:59 pm
Better than putting the money in Greinke.
ncscoots
September 14th, 2012
1:00 pm
Sometimes I wonder how many people on here actually know about baseball
At least one fewer than you, personally, think.
Arkansas Transplant
September 14th, 2012
1:05 pm
Over
CB
September 14th, 2012
1:16 pm
scoots, my dad always had an expression for people like No More Fredi: He would like to buy them for what they are worth and sell they them for what they think they are worth. Could fit a lot of our posters.
Bat Masterson
September 14th, 2012
1:20 pm
Yeah you could get rich that way, CB.
ncscoots
September 14th, 2012
1:23 pm
CB, I might be a one-time windfall for somebody, if that’s the case, LOL.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 14th, 2012
1:23 pm
CB: Har har.
abeeeewright
September 14th, 2012
1:25 pm
NMF … there is a difference between BA with RISP and LOB.
High OBP guarantees high LOB even if BA with RISP = team BA.
CB
September 14th, 2012
1:25 pm
Bat, we could add a few of the political analysts in that group also. I can’t watch any of the news channels anymore, bias is obvious.
CB
September 14th, 2012
1:29 pm
scoots,nah. You actually know a little baseball.
jeffrey d
September 14th, 2012
1:30 pm
I said in May the thing that was going to kill us this year was RISP
Boy were you right! Count us killed. 4th most wins in the majors and holding on to a 7 game lead in the Wild Card. Lead the way for us, oh great prophet!
ncscoots
September 14th, 2012
1:38 pm
I can’t watch any of the news channels anymore, bias is obvious.
I don’t even mind the bias, as long as they tell me which way they lean and don’t try to tell me it’s simple reportive journalism. When they do that, it makes me believe they think I’m stupid, which I quite naturally resent.
George_George
September 14th, 2012
1:40 pm
jeffrey d
September 14th, 2012
12:30 pm
Every level I’ve ever been at, 69 and below is failing
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TAKE THE TEST, see how u do. the aveage correct was 49%
George_George
September 14th, 2012
1:44 pm
jeffrey d
September 14th, 2012
1:30 pm
What rose colored glasses you have. BRAVES have made playoffs one time since 2005.
raleighbravefan
September 14th, 2012
1:56 pm
Where would I find this Oh So Hard test? I’d like to give it a try.
Bat Masterson
September 14th, 2012
1:56 pm
Bat, we could add a few of the political analysts in that group also. I can’t watch any of the news channels anymore, bias is obvious.
What kills me is a lot of the media is so afraid of being called biased that they have outsourced fact checking. I’m with scoots on leaning one way or the other, but don’t tell me you’re a journalist if you’re not willing to take a stand on 2+2=4.
I mean I like reading opinion writers but I know they have an agenda. Doesn’t mean I can’t learn anything from them. I’ve read George Will over the years, the guy loves baseball, so even if he is a bit of a fashion prude (owns one pair of jeans, come on man) he can’t be all that bad. Still if I read one of his columns and end it thinking man this is some crazy stuff I know I need to check his facts because they are most likely misleading ones.
Shoot I loved Molly Ivans but didn’t think he was infallible. Still that woman could write. She wrote of Pat Buchanan’s 92 convention speech: “It probably sounded better in the original German.” Cracked me up
Venice Jim
September 14th, 2012
1:56 pm
“He was mixing really well, his fastball was good,” said right fielder Bryce Harper, 0 for 4 against Medlen this year. “He was throwing his curve ball and changeup. You just try and do the best you can against a guy like that. Nothing you can do but tip your cap.”
CB
September 14th, 2012
2:00 pm
Bat, that test should be old age adjusted.
Actually, I surprised myself.
Bat Masterson
September 14th, 2012
2:01 pm
Molly Ivins* RIP
raleighbravefan
September 14th, 2012
2:03 pm
Bat – I’m with you. I wish every story, and every comment uttered by every politician came with an independant, unbiased fact check. Of course, true journalists are becoming extinct, and most people only hear (and believe) some sound bite uttered without any pushback.
Bat Masterson
September 14th, 2012
2:04 pm
CB _
Better than you thought you would? Kind of fun, huh.
Bat Masterson
September 14th, 2012
2:04 pm
CB _
Better than you thought you would? Kind of fun, huh.
raleighbravefan
September 14th, 2012
2:06 pm
Bat – You probably know, but one presidential candidate’s campaign manager, when asked about the misinformation being spewed on a regular basis, said that their campaign would not be “dictated” by fact checkers. HUH?
CB
September 14th, 2012
2:07 pm
Bat, yes on both.
Bat Masterson
September 14th, 2012
2:09 pm
raleighbravefan_
Click on “take the 2008 survey” to the left before you read anything if you don’t want a few answers before you take the test.
http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/2008/major_findings_finding1.html
Bay Area Steve
September 14th, 2012
2:10 pm
I missed five. Awful impressed Bat didn’t miss any. Though, I do think he should be checked for a cheat-sheet. Lie-detected, maybe…
50% seems sort of sad. And even more sad, 50% seems like it could be accurate. Lew paints the right picture with the cat videos.
I wanna know if VJ or scoots would miss any. I’m gonna go out on a limb, and say each misses one.
And Bat, as they said, your licking the computer response was good. Real good.
Jeff R
September 14th, 2012
2:10 pm
Molly Ivins* RIP
Hmm… my quick Google search shows that Ms. Ivins shuffled off this mortal coil in… 2007.
Pony Express running a little behind, Bat?
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 14th, 2012
2:13 pm
Nothing you can do but tip your cap.”- Bryce Harper
What??? I thought the mighty Nationals didn’t tip caps…
CB
September 14th, 2012
2:14 pm
I missed two and shook my head at how I missed one of those. Like I said, should have an old age adjustment.
Bat Masterson
September 14th, 2012
2:14 pm
raleigh @ 2:06
Yeah, I’m familiar with that. It seems information is becoming more and more compartmentalized or targeted, so that one can go merrily along, never hearing anything one does not want to, or agree with.
Arkansas Transplant
September 14th, 2012
2:17 pm
said that their campaign would not be “dictated” by fact checkers. – raleighbravefan
Could you give me a link on that? I’d like to see it in back and white.
Bay Area Steve
September 14th, 2012
2:17 pm
Wow, CB. Nice.
Puritans f’d me. I’ll now turn into a violent, anti-Puritan, religious zealot. That’ll show ‘em.
Bat Masterson
September 14th, 2012
2:17 pm
Jeff _
No my friend, just a continuing wish for Ms Ivins.
MFin04
September 14th, 2012
2:19 pm
Ugliest swing in baseball: Bryce Harper.
Sorry Kevin Youkilis you’ve been dethroned.
CB
September 14th, 2012
2:19 pm
BAS, if you only knew what one of my careers was you would not be complimenting me. Can’t tell it here. lol
SNEAKY PETE
September 14th, 2012
2:24 pm
no way I take any deal to postpone my shot at free agency if I have confidence in my ability.
Show me the money!!!
keyLargo
September 14th, 2012
2:24 pm
I looked up Molly and two things stood out. She hasn’t published any works in 5 years and 2nd she looks really good to have been dead for 5 years.
ncscoots
September 14th, 2012
2:25 pm
I’m gonna go out on a limb, and say each misses one.
I’ll just take the score and skip the test, then.
Efrim
September 14th, 2012
2:25 pm
Fun fact: Excluding the first month of the season, Giancarlo Stanton has hit 33 home runs(hit one in April) and 25 2B’s in 93 games, 385 plate appearances. .291/.364/.651 slash line. 58 HR pace over 162 games. 35/114 BB/K ratio – 199 K pace. .338 BABIP.
.651 SLG……..
Capt.Mudd
September 14th, 2012
2:25 pm
…..Amid the thunderous roar of the naysayers [the core positives], and, continuing with last night’s theme–now I’m telling you this is not ‘Meathead Stivic’ speaking….the Bravos are going to kick some Nationals @ss tonight.
Bat Masterson
September 14th, 2012
2:26 pm
Ah, the porno comment. Thanks.
Most of the stuff on the test just falls under my interest. The “debt” one could throw you if you read it “deficit”
DAP
September 14th, 2012
2:27 pm
AT said that their campaign would not be “dictated” by fact checkers. – raleighbravefan
Could you give me a link on that? I’d like to see it in back and white.
an ironic request, considering the discussion!
Capt.Mudd
September 14th, 2012
2:29 pm
@ncscoots “I’ll just take the score and skip the test, then.”
I always thought you were a Harvard man, scoots!
CB
September 14th, 2012
2:29 pm
DAP, I sent you a couple of emails. Did you receive them or did you just ignore me?
Train Wreck Bystander
September 14th, 2012
2:30 pm
30th in the majors in avg. w/RISP and 8th best won-loss record in the majors.
I am looking for correlation and finding little.
Efrim
September 14th, 2012
2:30 pm
no way I take any deal to postpone my shot at free agency if I have confidence in my ability.
There is a reason every elite, young position player is inking deals with teams. Agents aren’t stupid. Walking away from 45-50 million guaranteed isn’t smart. Giving away two years of free agency isn’t going to kill a guy.
raleighbravefan
September 14th, 2012
2:31 pm
Just took the test…31 of 33 = 94%. Show difference between intellegence and knowledge, I guess.
I attribute it to 1) I reaD a lot, 2)I’m old, and have lived through a lot of history (ie Sputnik, and the Cuban Missile Crisis), and of course, 3) my first class education at ECU.
nolie
September 14th, 2012
2:31 pm
Show me the money!!!
THIS
jeffrey d
September 14th, 2012
2:32 pm
TAKE THE TEST, see how u do. the aveage correct was 49%
What test?
What rose colored glasses you have. BRAVES have made playoffs one time since 2005
Well it’s not 2006,2007,2008,2009,2010, or 2011. It’s 2012 and we’ve got a 7 game lead in the Wild Card race. You don’t need “rose colored glasses” to see that.
David O'Brien
September 14th, 2012
2:32 pm
If Braves hit with RISP, they’d be pushing Nats
NEW BLOGGAGE
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/09/14/if-braves-hit-with-risp-theyd-be-pushing-nats/
ncscoots
September 14th, 2012
2:34 pm
no way I take any deal to postpone my shot at free agency
Yeah, but a kid in his 20s should never turn down the chance to make his first fortune. Seriously, at that age, you can buy all the toys and spend money until you’re sick of doing so, and let 40 years of compound interest turn the rest into real money.
Things go good, and you still have another chance at big paydays. Not so good, and you’re still able to take care of your great-grandchildren. There’s a sweet spot there for security/monetary return for the player and club control/outlay for the club, and both parties could find it if so inclined.
I would always advise a young player to take that kind of deal. Always.
Swing For The Fences
September 14th, 2012
2:34 pm
“Braves have slipped to 30th in majors in avg. w/RISP at .231, below Cubs (.232), Indians (.232), Padres (.234), Marlins (.234), Astros (.237) — everyone.”
I don’t have the answer of how this happens or how to cure it. But it HAS to represent a fundamental flaw in the team and organization that must be addressed if they expect to be serious contenders instead of serious pretenders going forward. Players? Manager and coaches? Front office? Something is wrong with one or all of the above entities. Any way you slice it, no “rah rah” reporting by the radio and TV folks can smooth this over. It’s a fact. They stink. They will continue to stink until they change something within the organization.
Efrim
September 14th, 2012
2:34 pm
And it’s really not about having confidence in your ability. It’s being smart about money, and financial earnings..
Efrim
September 14th, 2012
2:37 pm
There’s a sweet spot there for security/monetary return for the player and club control/outlay for the club, and both parties could find it if so inclined.
I would always advise a young player to take that kind of deal. Always.
Exactly. Again, look around the league at all of the position players who aren’t Boras clients. Things have changed. Agents are advising their clients to sign deals. Confidence about ability is one thing, your setting yourself up for life with 45-50 million. Could end up with 8-9 million if things go south.
raleighbravefan
September 14th, 2012
2:43 pm
AT – I’m not going to get involved in a political discussion on this forum, as the rules specifically forbid it. That is why I didn’t name which campaign. It was widely reported at the time (a week or so ago) everywhere except Fox. I must correct myself, howeveer. It was not the campaign manager. It was a “senior campaign aid”.
You can easily Google it. OR better still, every voter should go to a good INDEPENDENT fact checking site (There are plenty) and check facts on things said by EVERY candidate. As a strong supporter of one side, I would welcome that scrutiny.
DAP
September 14th, 2012
2:44 pm
some of these questions dont need to be on a civic literacy test. i did good though.
Capt.Mudd
September 14th, 2012
2:46 pm
I’ll see you on dark side of the boon……
Bryce Harper
September 14th, 2012
9:14 pm
Just didnt want you to forget I was here . . . .
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