3:59 pm September 12, 2012, by Carroll Rogers
September 13th, 201211:53 pm
That was my thought – but it seemed like a fun name to make up, if one was going to…
Jayson Stark @jaysonst
#Astros hadn’t won a game all year where they trailed by 4+ runs. But they won one tonight.
September 13th, 201211:54 pm
Didn’t “Meebone” do that song; “Come And Get Your Love?”
It might almost be more fun for the Phillies to flame out now after giving their marvelous fans a cheap thrill…
Bay Area Steve
September 13th, 201211:56 pm
You, based on the 11:53?
Though, you ain’t much of an archive-guy either. As much as you love to play gotchya, I gotta think you’d have broken that out sooner…
September 13th, 201211:59 pm
Thanks for the tip on deleting Meebo. And it was quick and painless.
September 14th, 201212:00 am
Well, I’m gonna Ramble On
I think keylargo likes the archives, could be wrong
So, I missed all 3 of the Brewers games. Did the blog explode? Who did we fire for that debacle?
September 14th, 201212:01 am
I have a substantial collection of early season stuff I can call upon – although I think the most impressive prediction I have will surprise the predictor when I trot it out in a couple of weeks to show how right he was on the division champion…
September 14th, 201212:02 am
Sure thing, Wayne.
Slap a Forward bumper sticker on your pickup as payback.
September 14th, 201212:03 am
Although, I just found one from New Year’s Eve I’ll have to roll out in a few days to congratulate Georg-Jorge on his foresight …
September 14th, 201212:05 am
DS1 – it was so bad last night, even N8 showed up, and he never shows up unless anymore unless he can confidently denigrate anything Braves related without someone pointing out that he has admitted he barely pays attention this year…
September 14th, 201212:07 am
In Utah? Wow, you want me to get hurt huh.
Heading off to bed early folks.
September 14th, 201212:13 am
Wow – the Dodgers with 2 runners on – a near explosion!
September 14th, 201212:19 am
Hanley hit it well, but not well enough – and I will head off with that…
September 14th, 201212:26 am
Unfortunately you are incorrect…. I am running the “Do Not Track Plus” software as well as Microsoft’s anti tracking software……………
…..and the Meebo bar is still at the bottom of the page, hidden or not…..
….slowing down the AJC site day by day…..but as the email that the AJC sent me back you cannot disable it, only hide it………..
September 14th, 201212:31 am
“People lie about sex all the time. I dont care about who Petrino is banging. What matters is that he built a Razorback team that was primed to compete for a National Championship this year.”
If it was just sex, he’d still be the coach.
He lied about it to the police.
He lied about it to the university.
He paid the woman enough to buy a shiny new car.
He gave her a sweet job.
Like I said, if it was just sex, he’d still be the coach at Arkansas, but when it crossed into decision making with the university and lies to the police… buh bye!
Sleep with a dog like Petrino, get fleas.
September 14th, 201212:35 am
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September 14th, 201212:37 am
I gotta give the Astros a ton of credit for their win. They don’t have anything to play for and were trailing 4-0 early .. type of situation where they might go through the motions just to get the game over with, but nope they battled and took advantage of some situations and managed to come from behind and win .. something they haven’t done very often this year. Nice win Houston, you surprised me and I applaud you for still playing hard.
September 14th, 20121:12 am
hanley just missed.
September 14th, 20121:18 am
“The Atlanta Braves are 20 games away from pulling off something never quite seen before…”
Those are some sweet words indeed; written by Tom Verducci in opening a recent SI article. Here’s the link just in case you haven’t read it.
Good night good folks.
September 14th, 20121:23 am
What happened to Hanley?
I think my only real complaint about the steroid-era is the stigma that I auto-apply to every career-year, and every McLouth-like fall-off. Hanley was a perennial MVP vote; now he’s an also ran. How does that happen at 28?
September 14th, 20121:28 am
BAS – Ask McCann. He should know if anyone does.
September 14th, 20121:32 am
The Truth – look up Ghostery and your operating system. You’ll never Meebo again.
September 14th, 20121:35 am
You’ve continually said McCann is lazy, and doesn’t even try to keep himself in baseball-shape. Now, you’ve implied the guy’s used PEDs. Which is it? Both?
And, why did you ignore my response regarding Soriano? Read you for some time now, and I gotta say, you don’t have much defense in your positions. You’ve perfected ignore, but not so much with reason.
September 14th, 20121:44 am
bas, just missed a dinger in the bottom of the ninth.
September 14th, 20121:46 am
bas, considering the fact he has 3 doubles since june should be concerning.
September 14th, 20121:47 am
I’ve never said McCann has used any performance drugs. His body shows that. No need to test that body,
My reference was to your comment Hanley was a perennial MVP vote; now he’s an also ran. How does that happen at 28? After all, McCann is 28 this year.
September 14th, 20121:48 am
Concerned, uga. Done been concerned. Worried. Scared. WTF, even. The only jersey I’ve ever worn in my life. I’m worse than McFann; I just hide it better. I need my boy to get it back. I know it ain’t bat-speed. I see that. But, them eyes got me worried…
September 14th, 20121:51 am
Yes, key, ’cause skinny, lazy SS is the same as most-games-at-catcher-for-5-years. At least you’re impartial.
September 14th, 20121:56 am
bas, i dont think it is/are the eyes. i think at this point he is somewhat of a guess hitter.
might be the shoulder, might not. watch his at bats. he has real hard time clearing his hands away from his body.
19 for 126 (.151) when behind in the count.
September 14th, 20121:59 am
BAS – I ignored your Soriano post because you seemed confused as to which years he was with the Braves, Rays and Yankees. After 3 tries I just let it go. If you think we maximize our position by acquiring Jesse Chavez for Rafael Soriano, then we have nothing to discuss there either. In 2009 Soriano had a great year. In 2010 he had a better year. He was not pulling a McCann and coming apart at the seams.
Wren, who I VERY seldom criticize did not handle those negotiations at all. He had to be ready with a plan in case Soriano accepted arbitration and he just didn’t. How would you say the Soriano for Chavez trade has gone for the Braves?
September 14th, 20122:01 am
I think he’s always been a guess-hitter, uga. I think he’s a cerebral cat, and has used that to make his career. Somebody once posted his stats vs. fastballs, and they were surprisingly low.
Nothing wrong with being a guess-guy. Heck, Chipper is all-guess, all-the-time, at this point, and he’s our best hitter. I simply refuse to believe McCann doesn’t still have an all-star game in him. He’s been too good.
September 14th, 20122:02 am
they will probably pick up that option, but that would mean 26 million next season committed to uggs and macc.
September 14th, 20122:07 am
bas, i don’t disagree. he still for his position is a plus hitter.
most players have a down season at some point, and he is not impervious.
September 14th, 20122:08 am
You bring a lot to this forum. I enjoy reading much of what you post. But, we’ve had our differences regarding McCann. And, this Soriano stuff is a lot like that. I simply cannot respect you if you can accept your posts today.
In response to the 2009 trade of Soriano to the Rays, you post:
“Maybe it means they shouldn’t have let him walk. Everyone in baseball knew he was a budding SuperStar.”
I respond, and you post:
“MFIKY goes from 27 saves with a 2.97 ERA, 1.057 WHIP and 102 K’s in 75 IP in 09 to 45 saves, 1.73 ERA, 0.802 WHiP in 2010 and he wasn’t on the way up?”
I respond with, and you ignore, the following:
“I’m aware of all that, Key. You posted his 2010, TB season. What does that have to do with what he was worth in 2009, when as you say, all of baseball knew he was a budding superstar?
So again: Move the goalposts much? “Budding SuperStar” is now “on the way up?” And, why are you posting his TB season, when the discussion was the trade from Atlanta? How is that pertinent? No mention of his injured-again, mediocre age-31 season?”
So, would you please explain where I’ve erred? Or, admit your “everyone in baseball” line was ludicrous? Because I feel like you calling me confused is a giant pile of nonsense. Am I wrong?
September 14th, 20122:11 am
soriano was given away because the braves never thought he would of accepted arb.
wren gave him away at the first offer, because there was no way he was in their budget.
September 14th, 20122:13 am
“26 million next season committed to uggs and macc.”
Frickin’ scary, uga. As worried as a guy with no say can worry.
But, I just don’t see an alternative. McCann’s been too good, and meant too much to not take the option. Uggla’s been too good, and would return so little, that I think you have to keep the guy.
Bottom line: much of our ‘13 is about those two cats finding their numbers. Back of the baseball card, as scoots likes to say. If they don’t, might as well schedule the tee-times now.
And, I gotta say, in some way, this is good regarding McCann. If he’d had his usual year, almost certainly the Braves would’ve extended him. Now, they won’t, and we can see what he has left. Even if he career-years it, we’ll still be able to re-sign.
September 14th, 20122:18 am
“wren gave him away at the first offer”
I don’t think anyone is denying this, uga (or at least, I’m not). My issue was dude saying everyone in baseball, at that time, knew Soriano was a budding superstar. That is some revisionist BS. And, I’d like key to admit that.
September 14th, 20122:19 am
Key Largo has his obsessions, Mac being one of them and Prado being another. What he said today about Mac is not as bad as what he has posted several times over the years about Martin whenever he has a slump he cherry picks stats to make it seem like Prado is crap.
September 14th, 20122:22 am
bas, totally agree. they both will rebound somewhat. have too, right?
would be shocked not to see the option picked up.
September 14th, 20122:24 am
bas, my last memories of mfiky is him being totally non effective vs. left handed hitters. no skin lost there.
What happened was that Wren did not offer Soriano arb because he thought it would be to high. So, he had to work out a deal with the Rays who claimed him if I remember the way the rules were in 09. I would liken it to leaving Kimbrel unprotected. The whole thing was a spinoff of another trade. I wasn’t being factual and didn’t look anything up. I just remembered that we got the shaft and someone else got the goldmine. I now remember what I was responding to was someone saying a Yankee reliever was making more than any Brave. That Yankee was Soriano and I just mentioned we didn’t do so well either by getting Chavez.
I have always liked your post (mostly) but what I resent is the people who don’t know the facts or the rules and hide in ambush behind Google, waiting to find a small mistake or misspeak that they can then show off their “knowledge” of the game. They never contribute anything on their own and just create hard feelings with their presentation of something they didn’t know 2 minutes ago and typed vervatim off of google.
“have too, right?”
We better hope. Or maybe you can hit up Hanson in Buckhead (did i say it right?) and get us some October tee-times.
I think the only way they do not pick up Mac is if he has to have surgery and the doctor tells them he has big troubles
September 14th, 20122:26 am
speaking of obsessions i believe the “only braves fan” has a bromance with greinke.
Hello everyone! My view is we keep Uggs, because he could bounce back next year. If he doesn’t do any thing by next years All Star break? Then Braves should trade him, not good to give up on Uggs to soon, and Mac, we keep too. Too valuable to the team. My view is we try to get Swisher, and move Prado to 3rd next year, and hope we can sign Bourn, but Bourn a big “?”
September 14th, 20122:28 am
Mac, is still young, so don’t give up on him just yet!
September 14th, 20122:29 am
Most home run hitters have their off years, and this could just be an off year again. Uggs will figure it out.
September 14th, 20122:31 am
bas, got a good a reality show proposal for you.
t’hawkin and scoots take a road trip.
put a camera in the car and cover them going on the road to see the braves.
think about that dialogue.
“I resent the people… who hide in ambush behind Google…[and] never contribute anything on their own”
I get that, key. I’ve been one of those people, and I am genuinely trying to not be one of those people. In fact, I think I’ve even been outspoken for your opposition.
Nonetheless, you post something as you did today, I feel it ought to be factual, or defensible. Yours was neither. And, calling me confused only motivates me for further combat. Sir, I can promise you, I am not confused.
September 14th, 20122:33 am
How are you guys doing? I’m cool…….
September 14th, 20122:35 am
“t’hawkin and scoots take a road trip.”
F’ that. If anyone’s going road-trip, it’s me. Shoot, I’d move to the Carolinas right now to run scoots’ shop-vac. I’ll get Tomahawkin’ some ‘Free Mixxo’ signs. Dude won’t even notice.
Good call, Pete. You gotta wonder if there’s a real issue with that shoulder. And, shoulders ain’t all that fixable…
Next year forget about pitching, and build on offense. Needs to be better……We are solid in pitching, and need to focuse on offense.
September 14th, 20122:40 am
“TOBF has a bromance with greinke.”
Dude’s commented, like, seven times about guys’ look. I mean, I try to be secure in my manhood, and all that, but man alive… (Not that there’s anything wrong with that.) I mean, if he says Pastornicky is cute one more time…
Mostly, I’m frustrated a still-playing cat is out-posting me, when I’ve nothing better to do. I wasted my shot. Get this cat on a tee, in a cage, in a library, in a weight-room…
‘Tis like I feel about McFann. Somebody give that girl the keys to the car…
September 14th, 20122:42 am
I don’t like Greinke. Too damn much money, and too streaky, and up, and down. We don’t need that.
September 14th, 20122:44 am
Bring up Delgado next year he could be ready?
September 14th, 20122:51 am
Every season the Braves focuse on pitching, and where does it lead them. The Braves come up short. I say reverse the course, and build on offense.
September 14th, 20122:52 am
Change course next season, and build on the offense. Quit spending money on pitching. Change is a good thing.
September 14th, 20122:54 am
All, think Some one like Swisher………Talk tomorrow, and all have a good one. Change is a good thing for next year. (Offfense) Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
September 14th, 20125:53 am
think about that dialogue
I already have. A lot of yelling. Based on their posts. It’s obvious. The dude wouldn’t take the free ride at Clemson. Wanted to hang with the hookahs instead of the weejuns. Sad.[sniff]And if, Dad had just not thrown away the Rap collection when he was in the 7th grade, it coulda been whole lot different.
Stubborn. The both of them. He and his son could be [sniff sniff] making beautiful furniture and going to A-ball tailgates together.
So much alike, but different. [sniff]
September 14th, 20126:02 am
Braves Hitters in September- .235/.309/.333/.643 (387 At-Bats). Our opponents are hitting even worse! .222/.297/.334/.631 for the month.
Bourn– .200/.333/.225/.558 48 PAs
Prado– .286/.294/.367/.661 52 PAs
Heyward– .298/.353/.489/.842 51 PAs
Jones– .265/.342/.353/.695 38 PAs
Freeman– .194/.370/.194/.564 46 PAs
Uggla– .294/.368/.471/.839 38 PAs
McCann– .226/.265/.452/.716 34 PAs
Constanza– .308/.471/.385/.855 18 PAs
Janish– .000/.200/.000/.200 20 PAs
D. Ross– .214/.250/.357/.607 16 PAs
Francisco– .167/.167/.167/.333 12 PAs
Reed– .313/.313/.375/.688 16 PAs
September 14th, 20126:04 am
Aside from Bourn, Freeman, and McCann, this team is hitting. The RISP problem right now is concerning, but we’ll get out of it pretty soon. We have too many guys who are hitting well right now for that trend to continue.
Brave New World
September 14th, 20127:24 am
Let’s get through 2012 first, but as far as 2013 goes: We do not need Greinke; we do not need to bust the bank for Bourn; we do need at least one more solid righty (or switch-hitting) bat. GO BRAVES.
September 14th, 20127:28 am
Hey Freddi G – Last time the Braves won 2 games in a row Georgie started! In fact, the last win the Braves had I believe he hit a triple and then scored the first run of a game we won 3 to 2 in extras. Since then he hasn’t played and we haven’t won!
If Chipper is needing a rest and we are facing a righty just play Georgie – Get some speed in the lineup and see if the trend of when Georgie plays, we win, continues.
September 14th, 20127:52 am
HA! Looks like pickin’ the Packers D wasn’t such a bad idea after all!
September 14th, 20127:54 am
flange – Your 2:23. You got it pegged. Corporate communication.
Bay Area Steve @11:28.. touche exaggerator touche ha.
September 14th, 20127:55 am
We have to put the disaster in Milwaukee behind us. The Nats are NOT a perfect team…the Marlins actually got to their staff during their series, so it CAN be done.
September 14th, 20128:02 am
Thank you, Astros.
September 14th, 20128:05 am
Just benched Dan Carpenter for Matt Bryant…figured the over/under on the Falcons/Broncos game should be about 250.
September 14th, 20128:18 am
Molly Knight @molly_knight
This is the quietest I’ve ever heard the Dodgers locker room. Reporters are whispering. Pin drops and whatnot.
After the Dodgers lost yet again… 74-70 this year. They likely won’t make the playoffs. Might just barely reach 85 wins.
This is the beginning of the LA Times article.
Dodgers don’t have the time to make it right this season
All the Dodgers’ big acquisitions need to learn how to play together and by next year they should roll through the division. But for this season, it would be a shock if they make the playoffs. Millions, schmillions. Money can’t buy you runs. Money can’t buy you time. Money can’t move a runner or work a pitcher or, as it turns out, win a division.
It’s time to look past the dollar signs and face the facts. The Dodgers are baseball’s Poor Little Rich Team, their attempts to buy a championship stymied by their hurry to do so.
This will be a very good baseball team. Next year. This will be a team capable of blowing through the National League and winning a World Series with the best lineup in baseball. Next year.
the Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 14th, 20128:20 am
Well, we should do well this series. A matter of the devil you know vs the devil you don’t. We’ve been slowly chipping away at both the NATS and PHILLIES pitching with one exception GIO GONZALEZ. If memory serves [and mine is failing] he was the only pitcher on either team we haven’t won against. Oh, crap I forgot they’ve got LANNEN back in D.C. We can’t touch the guy. Well one out of three will have to do I suppose.
September 14th, 20128:51 am
At age 38 Derek Jeter is 973 hits behind Pete Rose. I think with the DH he has a chance to pass him. I am not a Yankee fan but have to admit I have a lot of respect for Jeter and his style of play and would like to see him pass Rose. I don’t know if he and Yankees are willing to put Jeter at permanent DH, but they will have to in the next year or teo.
September 14th, 20128:57 am
Nice to see the Astros come back and beat the Phils. Maybe folks can keep quiet about them making the playoffs for one day. 4 games back of a playoff spot with 4 teams in front of them and 18 games left to play.
September 14th, 20128:58 am
Braves have a 7 game lead on a playoff spot with 18 games to play.
September 14th, 20128:59 am
This year with Chipper at third the braves have a losing record. Most fans are so IGNORANT they can’t understand how IGNORANT they are.
September 14th, 20129:02 am
Braves are 10th in batting average, 7th in on base percentage, 9th in slugging percentage and 7th in OPS. Pretty big gap between the 7th and 6th place teams – .719(Braves) to .739(D-Backs).
September 14th, 20129:03 am
Braves are 4th in team ERA, 8th in starters ERA, 2nd in bullpen ERA.
September 14th, 20129:04 am
codwog(**)itforbrains is back…
September 14th, 20129:14 am
Per BBRef, I see the Braves having a 50-38 record when Chipper starts….
How has the Soriano for Chavez trade been for the Braves?
Well, it certainly didnt have the effect you atrribute to it. They were going to let a reliever who had had one good season as a closer after missing almost an entire year due to an injury and several other DL stints and collect a draft choice in return. So they ended up with Chavez instead. BFD. Consider it a draft chocie that bombed in the bigs.
What they ended up with was an absolutely excellent season from Billy Wagner, who also managed to mentor one of the best young closers MLB has ever seen.
I fail to see how this move hampered the Braves in any way, shape or form. The fact that Soriano has succeeded since then is totally immaterial – we’ve had a string of excellent years from our closer since then and it cost us a hell of a lot less than MFIKY would have.
Of course, we no longer have someone who can melt cold steel merely by staing at it.
Braves are 10th in batting average, 7th in on base percentage, 9th in slugging percentage and 7th in OPS.
Those positional drops are mostly due to this current cold streak, though. They’ve been in the top five of the league in most offensive categories for most of the year.
Either the doomsayers are correct and the team’s offense has just been an illusion for five months, or it’s a slump that they still have time enough to break out of. One or the other.
September 14th, 20129:22 am
Pre All Star they were 5th in OPS, 7th in SLG, 5th in OBP, 6th in BA.
Post All Atar – 11th in OPS, 11th in SLG, 8th in OBP, 14th in BA.
It’s been bad since the last week of July. And now it’s September 14th, so hopefully they can snap out of it over the next 18 games – otherwise, that’s near half the season that they’ve been struggling.
i believe we beat Gio in DC for our first win against them this season in rain shortened series
September 14th, 20129:27 am
Prado in the 2nd half – .264/.309/.389 – that hasn’t helped either. Prado has a 90 point split in OPS between the 1st and 2nd halfs – .309/.363/.458/.821 – pre all star, .280/.323/.408/.731 – post all star
Division races are over. Wild Card #1 race is over. Wild Card #2 race is going to be over as soon as the Dodgers are clowned by the Cardinals. Selig still failed to artificially create drama this year. LOVE IT!
September 14th, 20129:29 am
so I guess keylargo has a point on Prado’s 2nd halves…Career numbers…
1st half- .309/.363/.458/.821
2nd half- .280/.323/.408/.731
I thought the Braves played well last night. Didn’t score any runs, but the offense looked about the same as it has the last week. Starting pitching and relief pitching, once again, were brilliant. No runs given up by either.
September 14th, 20129:33 am
Selig had no need to create drama – we import plenty from the blog.
September 14th, 20129:35 am
Dan Uggla has hit .241/.349/.472 over his last 33 games, 126 plate appearances.
Prado in the 2nd half
Yes, when both Bourn and Prado are raking, the offense motors. Got to have at least one of them going good, though.
Truthfully, I would not have thought that so many of these guys would get slumpy at the same time. It’s not just the top of the order, but the middle, too. Just have to hope that the reverse holds true: when they start to break out, they all break out.
MF– I don’t think I”d quite pull the trigger on the WC race being over.
Heck, the Crew’s only 4 out right now, and they’re hot. I’d love to see them get in over the Dodgers, Phils, or Cards.
2009: Hit .307
2010- Hit .307
2011- Hit .260 (though part of it was probably the staph)
September 14th, 20129:37 am
I’d love to see them get in over the Dodgers, Phils, or Cards.
Why? We wouldn’t want to play the hottest team coming in… give me the Cards.
“the Crew’s only 4 out right now, and they’re hot.”
4 out is actually a HUGE number at this point in the season. The records that teams would have to put up for the Brewers to get in would be unworldly.
September 14th, 20129:40 am
Cards 76 68 -18 9 9 85 77
Dodgers 74 70 -18 11 7 85 77
Pirates 72 70 -20 13 7 85 77
Brewers 72 71 -19 13 6 85 77
Phillies 72 72 -18 13 5 85 77
Yeah, but presumably the 1-game playoff would be at the Ted; Brewers are much worse on the road.
September 14th, 20129:41 am
I think we all learned last year how quickly a lead in the WC can evaporate.
September 14th, 20129:42 am
and truthfully, the Cards could limp into the playoffs on a losing streak, and they’d still scare me.
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