Braves postgame quotes after Monday’s loss

JONNY VENTERS

On the costly walk in the seventh inning:

“The leadoff hit wasn’t a bad pitch, but they’re trying to give you an out right there and to walk that guy is unacceptable. We battled and scratched out a run today and for me to come in and Mike threw the ball so well and it’s my job to come in and keep it where it is, and I didn’t do that. I felt good physically. I was prepared. I was ready. I just didn’t execute. I made an error. This loss is on my back. I didn’t do my job. I let my team down that battled through a good game today, and I gave it up.”

On the throw to third if would like to have back:

“It’s one of those things where you make a quick reaction play and you try to…I wanted to get the guy at third. I just made a bad throw. I don’t know if he’d be safe or out. I haven’t looked at it yet, but you go for it there. Even if you make a good throw and he’s safe, you’ve still got the lead, and you’ve still got a chance. That’s just bad fundamentals by me.”

On if it was hard enough to him but maybe not quick enough from there:

“I felt like I got there quick and it was bunted pretty hard. I felt like we had a good chance to get that guy. I don’t know if I rushed it a little bit and made a bad throw. It’s over with now. Come back tomorrow and try to get a win.”

On the walk to Segura:

“He was trying to bunt and I couldn’t throw a strike. It was embarrassing really. I at least want an opportunity to get an out there.”

MIKE MINOR

On if only complaint his high pitch count:

“Yeah I think somebody said early on, I threw 50 pitches after two innings. That was just because of not throwing too many strikes and a lot of foul balls. Just couldn’t pound the zone like I wanted to.”

On combined with last start, good results, but still think not pitching that well:

“I think it’s just every game. I can have a really good game where I throw a lot of strikes and don’t have any walks, and then tonight I felt like the first couple innings were a lot of three-ball counts and a lot of five, six, seven-pitch at-bats. And it was good on their part for fouling a lot of pitches off but I also threw a lot of balls too. That were out of the zone.”

On if Brewers are extra-patient lineup:

“Yeah for me, anyway. I don’t know if they could just see me a lot better than other people. I feel like I threw some quality pitches and they didn’t really bite at it early on. They were really patient. I don’t know if they saw something or some kind of film, but I threw a lot of close pitches they didn’t offer at. And that in turn made my pitch count go up and got me out of the ballgame early.”

On being reminded how far he’s come after last outing at Miller Park:

“It was kind of weird because I don’t remember anything about this place besides the field pretty much. I remember being out there, but I came in the clubhouse today and I didn’t remember where anything was. So it was almost a good thing because I kind of forgot about it, but it was good to bounce back and go back out there and have an OK outing tonight.”

On thinking about his last time here:

“I was like ‘I’m not doing that again.’ I was like I’m going to throw some strikes. I thought I threw some pretty good pitches early on. They didn’t offer at them. Mac would set up in or away, that’s why his glove was going like that because it was right down the middle.”

CHIPPER JONES

On the game:

“The only good thing to say is Mike Minor pitched good. That’s all you can say. Once Mikey came out it was ugly.”

On if Braves were overaggressive in certain instances:

“I don’t know. I can live with getting thrown out stealing. I can live with getting thrown out going first to third. Those are, you’re being aggressive. You’re forcing guys to make perfect throws under duress. And they did it tonight. I don’t have a problem with Prado getting thrown out at third base. I don’t have a problem with Jason getting thrown out stealing. But pickoffs and other shady baserunning, there’s no excuse for that but they made plays. You’ve got to give them credit tonight. They made plays. We had 10 hits. I thought we swung the bats pretty well. But we scattered them really, really well.”

On if runner safe either way on throw from Venters:

“It was going to be really, really close. I don’t know. I’ve got my back to the runner but I could feel him. I could feel him getting close. That right there is your ballgame. That play gets made, we’ve got a chance. It wasn’t made, we gave up four.”

FREDI GONZALEZ

On the baserunning plays:

“Early in the game, I’m fine with it. Trying to go first to third with one out, I’m OK with it but the one there with Danny at the plate swinging it, the tying run at the plate, that’s not acceptable almost. You don’t want to get thrown out at third base, especially the way Danny is swinging it and the way he can leave the ballpark and tie the game. Other than that, Minor was outstanding. I know they battled through some at-bats the first two innings, and he had thrown 50 pitches. He ended up with 115 pitches. That last inning, the sixth, between Gomez and Braun, they must have seen 15, 16 pitches just themselves. But I thought he did a nice job. The seventh inning just got away from us a little bit. We walked some people. We didn’t field our position and they made us pay for it.”

On if Venters should have gone to first:

“Sitting back here, could have, would have, and watching videotape. I thought the ball was bunted hard enough to go to third base but he took a little time with it. But that’s sitting back here or 200 feet away in the press box or second-guessing on TV. We just gave them outs. The inning before we had some chances. We get the bases loaded with two outs and we couldn’t get that ball to fall. We couldn’t get a hit. It’s hard to win ballgames when you only score one run.”

On if uncanny how well Minor has pitched since All-Star break, but little run support:

“It seems like there always one guy on the staff that never gets support. I think last outing he won 1-0 if I’m not mistaken. He went seven innings and won 1-0. It’s hard to win ballgames that way. We had some opportunities early. We didn’t do a very good job in the seventh inning and they made us pay for it.”

On McCann putting throws on two bags that didn’t go your way:

“We missed the tag on one of them and the other one got away from us, they end up first and third. Instead of getting three caught stealings you get nothing. It’s just the way it goes sometimes.”

On how McCann’s feeling after foul ball:

“He’s fine, as far as that’s concerned. He’s as fine as you can be at the 140-game mark with getting beat up. Two pitches later he took one off the shoulder. We’ll check him but I think he’ll be fine.”

57 comments Add your comment

NorCal Brave

September 11th, 2012
12:49 am

The pressure on the pitching to be near-perfect is unbearable. This makes 6 games out of 7 we’ve scored 3 runs or fewer. It’s not for lack of base runners; something just seems to come over this team whenever they get scoring chances. And Freeman? His slump has gotten so bad it’s affecting other parts of his game. Only good news tonight is that it appears the Padres will beat the Cards.

lee maye

September 11th, 2012
2:00 am

Got to pitchrun for McCann with Pastornicky or Janish and Braves score at least 1 more run. Expanded rosters, big mistake.

Catcher usually makes the call on the Venters error. Should have gone to 1st. It was not going to be in time.

Lot of pitching with expanded rosters. Should have had another lefty up. Avilan was available. Got to start using Delgado and Teheran. They can strike some people out. Durban and Venters were terrible.

And, Freeman is beginning to make errors and strike out a lot.

And, Fredi continues his love affair with Danny.

myke hawk

September 11th, 2012
5:47 am

hitting with RISP: 29th in MLB

padres are 30th, .001 behind the braves

thats pathetic

myke hawk

September 11th, 2012
5:47 am

hitting with RISP: 29th in MLB

padres are 30th, .001 behind the braves

thats pathetic

Buddy Landel

September 11th, 2012
5:50 am

lee maye

September 11th, 2012
2:00 am
And, Fredi continues his love affair with Danny
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“Danny” had a hit and scored the Braves only run. Find something else to b!tch and moan about. Oh yeah, you’re whole post was a b!tch and moan session.

Backdoor Slider

September 11th, 2012
6:53 am

FREDI

Fredi’s bullpen management from last night had a lot to be desired — as did his decision not to pinch run for McCann late in the game with two other catchers available on the bench.

Many of these close games could be won with better managing.

PaulG

September 11th, 2012
7:28 am

Backdoor…..your credentials on managing baseball teams are?????

alex

September 11th, 2012
7:47 am

ugly 7th,Risp hitting…ugly;tip your cap to our starting pitchers….Brewers are tough, great ball park!

Mikey

September 11th, 2012
8:10 am

Remember baseball fans and wanna be managers, it was Monday, and the Braves don’t win on Monday’s. Nice pitching Mike Minor, you deserved a “W” with that performance against that lineup in that ballpark.

Good Grief Charlie Brown

September 11th, 2012
8:10 am

@myke hawk, 5:47am: a stat that speaks for itself.

Good Grief Charlie Brown

September 11th, 2012
8:13 am

does anyone know how much run support they have provided for Minor this year? i know it’s not much, but i’d like to see the numbers for Minor vs. the rest of the rotation.

Mikey

September 11th, 2012
8:18 am

Blaming the manager for last night’s loss is ridiculous. Ask Mr Venters for a “professional objective” cause and effect.

NC Roseman

September 11th, 2012
8:20 am

Does anyone know if Prado messed up a finger/hand when he got thrown out at 3rd? He sure was favoring that hand later in the game when he was at 1st. Those numbskulls at Sports South (Chip and Joe) didn’t even pick up on it, even after the camera man was focusing on his hand.

Ekim

September 11th, 2012
8:46 am

@Good Grief Charlie Brown 8:13 a.m.

Look it up; it’s easily available on any of several web sites.

Peter

September 11th, 2012
8:51 am

Wow all that power and RBI’s we are getting from Uggla………Good thing we are paying him the big money for the next three years………

Please fire Wren…….

henry tn

September 11th, 2012
9:07 am

the braves might win with 1 run with the rockies and mets but it is not going to work with the nats phillies fish brewers and pirates i have never saw such luck with the rockies and mets

Quack Quack

September 11th, 2012
9:19 am

Monday Monday can’t trust that day……What a crock!! Well today is Tuesday, so maybe we can get some runs scored.

GO BRAVES!!!

same ole negative dumbazz comments

September 11th, 2012
9:40 am

lee maye, alex, Peter, Backdoor Slider, henry tn,……….I could not agree with you, more.
Excellent comments.
There is no excuse for the Braves to NOT win all of their remaining games.
I mean, isn’t a good team suppose to win every single one of the games that they play.

Good Grief Charlie Brown

September 11th, 2012
9:44 am

@Ekim: couldn’t find it, that’s why i asked…but thx for all your help.

Preston Thompson

September 11th, 2012
9:57 am

Backdoor Slider…..you right. As slow as lard ass is, the only call is to pinch run for for him late in the game. Wren calls up another catcher and then to let two sit in that situation is silly. You seen as well an me, on a double he barely gets to third. Why? His gut is getting to big. I don’t see how he gets up out of a crouch behind the plate. It’s bad when players have to be put on the field cuz of their salary.

The braves don’t need to be in the playoffs. I know you folks root for um but you’ll just be let down again. This team does not have the fire in the gut needed win it all.

And poor MM. To pitch like he’s pitching and the lack of support he gets would get most folks down pretty bad. I wonder why he doesn’t get run support?

reckingball

September 11th, 2012
10:07 am

It looked like it would have been a close play at the plate, if Constanza or Bourne, would of have been running in McCann’s place.
It is unfortunate that managers in the dugout, cannot see the game from the same perspective of all of these hindsight-managers(wannabees).

billy bob baseball

September 11th, 2012
10:10 am

PaulG
September 11th, 2012
7:28 am

Backdoor…..your credentials on managing baseball teams are?????
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Your credentials for criticizing other’s comments are?????? Maybe you should get you a short dress or tutu and go to the top of the dugout every game and cheer for fredi, You seem to take offense at any criticism of him, maybe he’ll have eyes only for you instead of ‘danny.’

Speaking of fredi, his genius is on display with his criticism of Prado for being aggressive on the bases, trying to get to third base on Freeman’s hit. The team has scored what, 4-5 runs in 4-5 games and he is critical of the team’s MVP trying to get in a position to score, because ‘danny’ is coming up to bat. Because ‘danny’ has hit in 2 or 3 straight games. Guess what genius, ‘danny’ hasn’t hit in about 300 games and because he’s hit the ball for a week doesn’t make him Dimaggio. What a moron.

HAL

September 11th, 2012
10:26 am

where did fredi ctisize prados base running what i read in the article was he was fine with it but not fremans pick off which chiiper the leader had already thrown fred under the bus for i agree that freman could use a day off maybe prado at first for a game or two or overbay or hinski

Mr. Webster

September 11th, 2012
10:33 am

Disclaimer: No dictionaries were harmed in the above comment.

billy bob baseball

September 11th, 2012
10:33 am

HAL
September 11th, 2012
10:26 am

where did fredi ctisize prados base running what i read in the article was he was fine with it

“Early in the game, I’m fine with it. Trying to go first to third with one out, I’m OK with it but the one there with Danny at the plate swinging it, the tying run at the plate, that’s not acceptable almost. You don’t want to get thrown out at third base, especially the way Danny is swinging it and the way he can leave the ballpark and tie the game. “

lee maye

September 11th, 2012
11:04 am

Medlen’s remaining starts:

Sept 14 Wash
Sept 19 at Miami
Sept 25 Miami
Sept 30 NY
Oct 5 Wild Card St Louis or LA

Schedule already set up perfectly for Medlen to pitch WC game in Atl on Oct 5

Ebenezer Snerdberg

September 11th, 2012
11:05 am

CUE THE FAT BROAD. SEE YOU NEXT APRIL FOR MORE OF THE SAME!

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Lobosolo

September 11th, 2012
12:06 pm

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lee maye has taken over from J-MANN as the STUPIDEST commenter on here, with billybobbitchfest bringing up rear… alexis, control your offspring…. they are blubbering more than any male should be capable of… binkie these babies, alexis… they are embarrassing their wives and children….. WAHHHHHHH WAAAHHHHHHH WAAHHHHHHHHH

Tumbledown

September 11th, 2012
12:24 pm

Disclaimer: No dictionaries were harmed in the above comment.

Very funny, Mr. Webster!! A little levity is always needed on this blog after a Braves’ loss.

Tumbledown

September 11th, 2012
12:29 pm

Does anyone feel the Phillies can grab a WC spot? They are only five games out. The Cardinals, Dodgers, and Pirates are not exactly on a roll the last ten games. I wonder how critical their fans are of their team’s manager.

wallypip

September 11th, 2012
12:37 pm

I blame this loss on that colossal dip**** Chip Carey. He’s waxing rhapsodic in a 1-0 game about how the Braves bullpen is the best in the game…and Venters promptly, as in mid-sentence, gives up a single up the middle on a sinker that stays up, and the rout is on.

I used to despise Chip. I don’t anymore. I tolerate him. I think Chip has improved in the past couple of years. His broadcast voice seems less contrived and portentious. He’s a bit less the chucklehead/gladhandler/avuncular frat boy. He doesn’t offend your intellect every inning, as he used to. But he still irritates with regularity.

Sadly, the proverbial apple did fall a long way from the tree — big props to the memory of Saint Skip, who, at least when he was talking off the topic of baseball, was original and funny and smart. Hilarious, in fact.

I have to imagine that Joe Simpson smells like herbs and citrus, having to work every night with this douche.

jim

September 11th, 2012
12:39 pm

The Brewers are as right-hand preponderant as the Braves are left-handed (even more so). For Minor to hold that lineup in check as he did last night was outstanding. I thought Fredi made the move to the bullpen at just the right time after the long Braun AB. It is unfortunate that the rotation worked out so that we have 2 lefties starting this series.

The walk to the bunter was the critical mistake of the night. I don’t think that Prado trying to go first-to-third in that situation in the 8th was a terrible decision. There were 2 out and Prado was off with contact. The CF was running straight in and had to throw back against his forward momentum. Maybe the long season has taken a step or two out of Prado’s legs, but normally he makes that base. The football mentality of some bloggers talking about the Braves lacking “the fire” to win these games is shown to be ridiculous by just such a move. The Braves lost 3 base runners last night trying to advance an extra base on a steal and on hits. Doesw that indicate a lack of agressiveness? Or how else are we to determine the presence or absence of “fire”?

Tumbledown

September 11th, 2012
12:56 pm

jim – Your reasonable analysis of the Braves’ game is just not welcome around here. Why aren’t you automatically jumping on Fredi’s decision-making as the primary cause of the loss? I suggest you work into your next post how Dan Uggla’s participation in the game was a complete and utter travesty.

Finally, you need to always hurl a personal insult or two at any blogger you deem worthy. Such insults add so much pure substance to a particular comment. All you fools who believe in reason and objective analysis sicken me. See, how a little insult can make one beel better and superior.

Tumbledown

September 11th, 2012
12:57 pm

I mean “feel.” Sorry, Mr. Webster!

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Yes Way Josè

September 11th, 2012
1:26 pm

Of course Prado gets a pass from all of you. If it’d been one of our other outfielders you’d all be peeing in your pants. Speaking of people whom Braves fans love to give a pass to, it’s time to either drop Freeman in the order or give him a day off. He has been terrible for a good 2 weeks now.

Yes Way Josè

September 11th, 2012
1:26 pm

Of course Prado gets a pass from all of you. If it’d been one of our other outfielders you’d all be peeing in your pants. Speaking of people whom Braves fans love to give a pass to, it’s time to either drop Freeman in the order or give him a day off. He has been terrible for a good 2 weeks now.

Semper Fi Braves Fan

September 11th, 2012
1:32 pm

No body ever won all 162….

Go Bravos

jim

September 11th, 2012
1:42 pm

Our other 2 outfielders (or Constanza) would have been fast enough to beat the throw, so we would have no occasion to complain. Prado has started games at LF, 2B, SS, and 3B (and changed position mid game) during the last two weeks. He leads the team in hits and average. He does not need a pass from anybody on this blog for his play this season.

jim

September 11th, 2012
1:46 pm

Freeman can be very streaky, but usually his hot-cold streaks run 2-3 weeks in duration. He will likely get hot very soon.

Buddy Landel

September 11th, 2012
1:52 pm

The football mentality of some bloggers talking about the Braves lacking “the fire” to win these games is shown to be ridiculous by just such a move. The Braves lost 3 base runners last night trying to advance an extra base on a steal and on hits. Doesw that indicate a lack of agressiveness? Or how else are we to determine the presence or absence of “fire”?
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I’ve been saying this for years. Baseball is not a game of “fire”, it is a game of precision and decision making. Having “fire” will not help you throw strikes, throw to the correct base, or barrel up a ball.

Semper Fi Braves Fan

September 11th, 2012
2:41 pm

I disagree, Bryce Harper has single handedly won games for the Nationals simply by him doing something over the top. Turning a double into a close triple, taking home on a pick off move to 1st, etc.

He has had moments where he has gotten picked off with to big of a lead, or made the turn at 1st and gotten thrown out at 1st. But these plays dont have the negitive effect on a team as does someone successfully taking home on a pick off play to 1st.

NorCal Brave

September 11th, 2012
2:59 pm

Re: Freeman…..He doesn’t look like a tough out anymore. Doesn’t work the count like before, swings awkwardly, doesn’t make solid contact nearly as often. And does anybody know if Bourn struck out this much in Houston? If he puts the ball in play more often, he puts more pressure on the defense and picks some extra hits.

Mikey

September 11th, 2012
3:36 pm

Re: Bourn and his “K” capacity. His career “K” total is 660 in 857 games played. So yes he is very good at “K-ing” especially against L/H pitchers. Way too high for a leadoff speed guy.

Re: Freeman…..he is currently 2-24 (.083) last 7 games with NO extra base hits and 1 rbi. Guy is only 22 and needs another day off, he does look tired.

billy bob baseball

September 11th, 2012
3:43 pm

New rules! No matter how many pop-ups to the infield with the bases loaded our $12 Mil man makes, no matter how many dum bass decisions fredi makes with pitching changes, or lineup, no matter how many times a base runner day dreams himself into a pick off, no criticisms allowed. lobosolo, tumbledown, paulg and the rest of the varsity cheerleading squad will get their panties in a wad and their feelings hurt otherwise. be nice, say nice things,

jasons shrinking waist

September 11th, 2012
4:01 pm

Is it me or is Jason Heyward a terrible base runner??

Tumbledown

September 11th, 2012
4:29 pm

Methinks somebody’s feeling are hurt and his panties are already in a wad. What, you mean there can be no criticism of people’s critical comments of the Braves’ performance? So, it is ok to lob criticisms at the Braves’ performance and then escape criticism yourself.

Yes, Billy Bob, I have indeed gone there. I have criticised your criticism of my satirical and critical jab at your critical comments of the Braves. Do you dare add another level of criticism?

Largo

September 11th, 2012
4:35 pm

Venters is a liability this year. He screws up, then says all the right things but I think he could give a crap less.

Tumbledown

September 11th, 2012
4:40 pm

Is it me or is Jason Heyward a terrible base runner??

It could be you, or it could be that Heyward is a terrible base runner, or it it could be both, a combination of both, or nothing. I just do not know. You have confounded me.

Jay Dubu

September 11th, 2012
5:28 pm

When did it become necessary for Chipper to stamp his approval on other players hustling on the basepath? THey have to do that Chipper, to keep you from clogging up the bases, and doing your sttion to station base movement.

The Braves have to hit with runners on base. period.

The Rock

September 11th, 2012
5:30 pm

The Rock says, It’s You!!

Know your role and shut your mouth!

billy bob baseball

September 11th, 2012
5:40 pm

Tumbledown
September 11th, 2012
4:29 pm

Don’t quit your day job just yet. I’m sure jon stewart and crew are relieved that you’re not ready for prime time yet. (and from the looks of it will never be)

Davey Sprocket

September 11th, 2012
5:41 pm

Wow. If the runners in question were safe everyone would be glad-handing these guys for their aggressiveness and passion. There is a time for aggression, and a time for being smart. The time for unbridled aggression might just be at hand, because the trouble scoring runs against good (or even just above-average) teams is obvious. Against good pitching, teh Braves struggle to score. Against terrible pitching, they have mini “coming out of their slumps” parties.
The approach of playing for walks, and swinging for teh fences will not work come playoff time. At least the second wild card has removed the crushing pressure that they are so susceptible to.

Barbara

September 11th, 2012
5:53 pm

Here we go again can’t hit wRISP. What has happened to Freeman he has lost his touch. I hope these guys wake up and start giving a darn about what it takes to get to October. You have got to give it all you got every time you are out there. Fredi you have got to start using more of the guys that came up from the farm especially Jose (the rabbit) and who gave us Overbay he is an automatic out

Tumbledown

September 11th, 2012
6:04 pm

Good one, Billy Bob! Enjoy the game tonight.

Largo

September 11th, 2012
6:30 pm

Another crappy performance by the offense (what offense?) when Minor pitches.

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