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DAP
September 12th, 2012
12:39 pm
MFin But I’m not sure playing 40-60 games as a RF hitting lefties is being a MLB player. I suppose it is as much as being a bench bat or a 6th inning relief pitcher.
yeah, i mean were talking 24th or 25th journey man type players.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 12th, 2012
12:40 pm
missing in action like McCann….
Francouer and Francisco??? On second thought, let’s hope not.
Those 2 Franc’s would combine for a record number of Ks and a record low number of walks. Yikes.
brian
September 12th, 2012
12:40 pm
still celebrating Notre Dame to the ACC even if it just includes 5 football games per year
ncscoots
September 12th, 2012
12:44 pm
still celebrating Notre Dame to the ACC
…whereas I think the recent additions to the conference, including Notre Dame, destroy the character and tradition of the conference. It’s become just another group of schools tied together by money alone.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 12th, 2012
12:44 pm
TJ Simers again… http://t.co/iUnttEHU Matt Treanor wasn’t too happy with him… TJ was just trying to spread some joy in the Dodger clubhouse!
brian
September 12th, 2012
12:45 pm
Frenchy never did the work required to be a great player. He never made the adjustments that he needed to and when he struggled he basically refused to listen to coaches and change. He pouted when he was sent down to work on his swing in a non-pressure situation.
If Frenchy worked half as hard as Heyward did this offseason after Frenchy struggled, he never would have been given away in a trade
MFin04
September 12th, 2012
12:48 pm
“Those 2 Franc’s would combine for a record number of Ks and a record low number of walks. Yikes.”
Oh, but think of the BOMBS!!!
cabravesfan
September 12th, 2012
12:49 pm
TJ has an amazing effect on people…
Tomahawkin
September 12th, 2012
12:49 pm
MVPrado14
“Here’s a kick in the teeth – Phillies end up winning the 2nd WC and end our season on our field for a second straight year”
It will be more of a Kick in The B@lls! If they Go All da way, like the Cardinals did last year at our expense, My Groin still hurts from that!
jeffrey d
September 12th, 2012
12:51 pm
Phillies end up winning the 2nd WC and end our season on our field for a second straight year
If the Braves went 5-14 (26.3%) to end the year, the Phillies would have to go 16-4 (80%) to beat them.
George_George
September 12th, 2012
12:51 pm
ncscoots
September 12th, 2012
12:44 pm
I would think considering thier location it would be more logical for them to join the big 10.
cowdogit
September 12th, 2012
12:52 pm
Any stat nerd that wants to shut me up, Look up Canstanza,s won, lost record when he appears in a game for the last two years. I would aiso like to know the braves record when he’s on the roster.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 12th, 2012
12:53 pm
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
Michael Bourn is hitting .320, with a .403 on-base in 81 #Braves wins only .221 with a .269 on-base in 61 losses. That’s how important he is
Pay him 18mil!!! (sarcasm)
Tomahawkin
September 12th, 2012
12:55 pm
cowdogit
“Any stat nerd that wants to shut me up, Look up Canstanza,s won, lost record when he appears in a game for the last two years. I would aiso like to know the braves record when he’s on the roster.”
lol at the Stat nerd reference
Tomahawkin
September 12th, 2012
12:55 pm
cowdogit
“Any stat nerd that wants to shut me up, Look up Canstanza,s won, lost record when he appears in a game for the last two years. I would aiso like to know the braves record when he’s on the roster.”
lol at the Stat nerd reference
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 12th, 2012
12:55 pm
Yeah, Constanza sure caused us to win in every game he’s started…
jeffrey d
September 12th, 2012
12:55 pm
ugh…I’m tired of Notre Dame acting like the football world revolves around them.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 12th, 2012
12:57 pm
I took a look at Constanza’s W/L record, I see him as being 0-0 with a 0.00 ERA……
MVPrado14
September 12th, 2012
12:57 pm
“If the Braves went 5-14 (26.3%) to end the year, the Phillies would have to go 16-4 (80%) to beat them.”
The Phils don’t have to catch the Braves, just the Cards. Then my scenario would play out.
MFin04
September 12th, 2012
12:59 pm
To Reach 90 wins:
Braves 81 62 9 10
Cards 75 67 15 5
Dodgers 74 68 16 4
Pirates 72 69 18 3
Brewers 71 71 19 1
Phillies 71 71 19 1
jeffrey d
September 12th, 2012
12:59 pm
Yes, it was Constanza’s mythical .286 SLG that led us to all those wins.
George_George
September 12th, 2012
1:01 pm
cowdogit
September 12th, 2012
12:52 pm
Any stat nerd that wants to shut me up, Look up Canstanza,s won, lost record when he appears in a game for the last two years. I would aiso like to know the braves record when he’s on the roster.
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I DON’T AGREE with you very often at all, but in the above I sure do AGREE. We win more often when he srarts and the tecord proves it.
jeffrey d
September 12th, 2012
1:01 pm
The Phils don’t have to catch the Braves, just the Cards. Then my scenario would play out.
But said the Phillies would end the Braves’ season on the Braves’ field for the second straight year.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 12th, 2012
1:02 pm
I think that it’s gonna take at least 85 wins for the 2nd wild card…. the Phils and Brewers would need to go 15-5 to get it, Pirates 14-7, Dodgers, 12-8, Cards 11-9.
Phils and Brewers are just about done. Dodgers could be out of it soon.
brian
September 12th, 2012
1:02 pm
the ACC would not and could not survive as the 8 team league it once was. It would be swallowed by another league or have schools picked off one by one. We are headed to super conferences.
Notre Dame is a perfect fit for the ACC in its academic institution and a much needed lift in football. Its ancillary sports fit very nicely in the ACC as well. There will be some dynamic girls soccer games for example. ACC will become the LaCrosse conference adding ND and Syracuse to Duke, UNC, MAryland, and UVA. Basketball becomes much stronger with the addition of Syracuse, Pitt, and ND. Exit fees also increased markedly
Once ND’s contract with NBC is up in football the question becomes do they join the ACC in football and who is the 16th? I still would love for it to be Texas if the Big XII fizzles.
I have been at the games when ND came to UNC and when ND came to Wake Forest – those games could not have been more huge or had a bigger turn out. Now they are likely to come every 5-6 years to each ACC school. That in itself is huge. I don’t think there is any college football team close to what ND brings to the table – some have won more championships, many have been better year in and year out, but having Notre Dame visit your campus to play football is priceless
Efrim
September 12th, 2012
1:03 pm
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
Michael Bourn is hitting .320, with a .403 on-base in 81 #Braves wins only .221 with a .269 on-base in 61 losses. That’s how important he is
Wait, what?
MFin04
September 12th, 2012
1:06 pm
“Michael Bourn is hitting .320, with a .403 on-base in 81 #Braves wins only .221 with a .269 on-base in 61 losses. That’s how important he is”
Of course it is safe to say that every player on the Braves roster mirrors that trend to some extent.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 12th, 2012
1:06 pm
We start next year against the Phils, 3 games in Atlanta. First game is April 1, Monday
cowdogit
September 12th, 2012
1:08 pm
I see ” Stat nerd’s can’t answer a couple of simple questions. Stop spinning and give me the facts.
tony austin
September 12th, 2012
1:08 pm
If the Braves went 5-14 (26.3%) to end the year, the Phillies would have to go 16-4 (80%) to beat them – jeffrey d
Both very attainable goals. The offense barely scores anymore and we all know how fast Philadelphia can make up games.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 12th, 2012
1:09 pm
We end the season with 4 against the Phillies, in Atlanta. Brewers come right before that. Nice way to end the season, 7 straight home games.
Wait, what?
MFin04
September 12th, 2012
1:10 pm
“First game is April 1, Monday”
Second game is April 3, Wednesday
Third game is April 6, Saturday
Just in case there is rain or something.
David O'Brien
September 12th, 2012
1:11 pm
Braves open 2013 season April 1 at home vs. Phillies, have 6-game homestand vs. Phillies and Cubs before heading to Miami and Washington. Then it’s back home for an interleague series vs. Kansas City starting April 16.
George_George
September 12th, 2012
1:11 pm
Efrim
September 12th, 2012
1:03 pm
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
Michael Bourn is hitting .320, with a .403 on-base in 81 #Braves wins only .221 with a .269 on-base in 61 losses. That’s how important he is
Wait, what?
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In other words he is good when we win, bad when we lose. brilliant DAVID
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 12th, 2012
1:12 pm
I see ” Stat nerd’s can’t answer a couple of simple questions. Stop spinning and give me the facts.
I did! 0-0 with a 0.00 ERA. That’s his W/L record.
His singles hitting, barely getting the ball out the infield sure caused us to win alot of games. Yeah right. We could’ve won alot of games even if he wasn’t playing. In fact, this “losing” streak didn’t start until he came back!
MFin04
September 12th, 2012
1:14 pm
If you are looking for Brilliant…Twitter feeds probably aren’t the place. Better off looking into the blog articles.
Efrim
September 12th, 2012
1:14 pm
Jason Heyward
in wins: .312/.392/.579
in losses: .217/.270/.357
Freddie Freeman
in wins: .283/.371/.498
in losses: .228/.309/.372
Martin Prado
in wins: .321/.381/.451
in losses: .270/.317/.406
Chipper Jones
in wins: .330/.394/.592
in losses: .246/.353/.313
ncscoots
September 12th, 2012
1:14 pm
ACC will become the LaCrosse conference adding ND and Syracuse to Duke, UNC, MAryland, and UVA.
this is one of the goals we always talk about in alumni meetings.
I’m just messin’ with ya, brian, LOL. These additions may indeed be a good thing, for all the reasons you mention. But allow a dinosaur to wallow in his grumpiness that it might be so.
And get off my lawn!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 12th, 2012
1:14 pm
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
The Braves will open and close the 2013 season against the Phillies at home. They will also visit Kansas City for the first time (6/25-26)
Come back for 1 more year Chipper. Then you can play in that park in a reg. season game!
Venice Jim
September 12th, 2012
1:14 pm
Braves make the LA – San Diego swing together this year, giving us a week in early June to see them…
Venice Jim
September 12th, 2012
1:15 pm
“next year”
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 12th, 2012
1:17 pm
Only Prado is good in a loss? Sweet.
I figured that when you lose, your hitters all do well…
David O'Brien
September 12th, 2012
1:17 pm
The Braves open AND close the season at home vs. Phillies.
George_George
September 12th, 2012
1:20 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 12th, 2012
1:12 pm
I see ” Stat nerd’s can’t answer a couple of simple questions. Stop spinning and give me the facts.
I did! 0-0 with a 0.00 ERA. That’s his W/L record.
His singles hitting, barely getting the ball out the infield sure caused us to win alot of games. Yeah right. We could’ve won alot of games even if he wasn’t playing. In fact, this “losing” streak didn’t start until he came back!
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Your above has NO facts to back it up. We know JUAN C is NOT a pitcher, so he does not have a w-l record. You know damn well I am speaking of BRAVES team record when JAUN C starts. Facts don’t lie.
MFin04
September 12th, 2012
1:21 pm
“They will also visit Kansas City for the first time (6/25-26)”
Happy Birthday me. Gonna have to go to those two games. Why a two game series, though?
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 12th, 2012
1:22 pm
Dan Uggla
in wins: .254/.375/.474/.849
in losses: .162/.298/.259/.557
BMac
in wins: .279/.353/.521/.874
in losses: .158/.215/.248/.463
Shows how important they are…
ncscoots
September 12th, 2012
1:23 pm
Facts don’t lie.
here’s a fact for you: Constanza isn’t the most feeble excuse for a ML baseball player I’ve ever seen.
But he sure jump-starts the conversation.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 12th, 2012
1:24 pm
Oh, and let’s not even look at the pitchers… I figure that when we lose games, the pitcher’s all did well too.
George_George
September 12th, 2012
1:25 pm
ncscoots
September 12th, 2012
1:23 pm
YUP
jeffrey d
September 12th, 2012
1:25 pm
Your above has NO facts to back it up. We know JUAN C is NOT a pitcher, so he does not have a w-l record. You know damn well I am speaking of BRAVES team record when JAUN C starts. Facts don’t lie.
Fact 1: His name is Jose, not Juan.
Fact 2: Of the 104 runs the Braves have scored in games where Jose plays, he’s scored 7 of them, all while putting up a monstrous .588 OPS
Murph
September 12th, 2012
1:26 pm
No games against the Astros next season… or the Rangers. Sigh… gonna have to get on a plane if I want to see the team in person.
ncscoots
September 12th, 2012
1:29 pm
Constanza has a 60 OPS+. Do you have any idea just how bad that is? He has an OPS under .600; his OBP is below average at about .300; he’s slugging under .300. And somebody wants to opine that this guy helps win ballgames?
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 12th, 2012
1:29 pm
Jose Constanza 2012
in wins: .238/.304/.262/.566 (16 games 47 PAs)
in losses: .286/.286/.429/.714 (just 7 games, 7 PAs)
He has played and hit in more wins, but his BA is not impressive. He’s not doing all that much.
George_George
September 12th, 2012
1:30 pm
jeffrey d
September 12th, 2012
1:25 pm
But BRAVES win -loss record is better both in 2011 and 2012 when JOSE C starts. Sorry about his given name.
MFin04
September 12th, 2012
1:30 pm
“And somebody wants to opine that this guy helps win ballgames?”
At this point if he has scored ANY RUNS in ANY GAMES, he is an ELITE Braves player.
David O'Brien
September 12th, 2012
1:30 pm
14 of Braves 20 interleague games in ‘13 are before All-Star braek. No Yankees or RedSox on sked, road or home (which won’t help attendance at Turner Field).
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 12th, 2012
1:32 pm
Constanza has awful home/away splits this year too, and he has more away ABs! Even for his career, this is quite a difference in those splits.
Also, when you’re slugging under .300, less than your OBP, that’s not good. Worth -0.1 oWAR if you’re so inclined.
ncscoots
September 12th, 2012
1:32 pm
At this point if he has scored ANY RUNS in ANY GAMES, he is an ELITE Braves player.
If the charter went down with all hands, the Braves would still have a better chance of winning a ballgame than if Constanza started.
David O'Brien
September 12th, 2012
1:35 pm
Braves 2013 road interleague games will be at Detroit, Kansas City, Toronto, ChiSox.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 12th, 2012
1:35 pm
Elite? Hah! Then again, so was that Braves pitcher…
Jose is .389/.476/.389/.865 at home and .161/.188/.226/.413 on the road. (22 and 32 PAs, respectively) Sure screams elite to me.
George_George
September 12th, 2012
1:37 pm
Enough already win-loss records are the most important stat in baseball or any sport. Sorry I got into this, all it got me is a migrain headache. Outta here for now. Wish our bums could hit a baseball when needed.
DS1
September 12th, 2012
1:39 pm
Is there a link to the schedule?
MFin04
September 12th, 2012
1:43 pm
The whole offense has been awful for the last 8 games, save one 11-run anomaly.
Heck maybe Constanza single-handedly wins a couple of those games with his legs.
David O'Brien
September 12th, 2012
1:46 pm
Happy birthday to Freddie Freeman (23) and to the Possum, George Jones (82).
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 12th, 2012
1:46 pm
Hasn’t yet.
TennesseePaul
September 12th, 2012
1:47 pm
Braves starters are hitting:
________AVG__OBP__SLG__OPS
Wins.. .287 .363 .468 .830
Losses .209 .272 .315 .586
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 12th, 2012
1:48 pm
So that must mean that all our hitters are “that important” to this lineup. Not just Bourn. Hmmm
TennesseePaul
September 12th, 2012
1:48 pm
Hand them all $18M a year…
TennesseePaul
September 12th, 2012
1:52 pm
Heck maybe Constanza single-handedly wins a couple of those games with his legs.
And he did, when he used those legs and walked away from the field to allow someone better to play.
cowdogit
September 12th, 2012
1:52 pm
I’am waiting for an answer to my question – If no one knows , stop wasting my time with your stupid opinions !
MFin04
September 12th, 2012
1:53 pm
I wonder what Greinke’s ERA looks like in wins and losses?
Efrim
September 12th, 2012
1:59 pm
Hand them all $18M a year…
We win when our hitters hit well. We lose when our hitters suck. This is not surprising. And it does not mean that we should give $18 million a year to a leadoff hitter with a 91 OPS+. The stick isn;t the selling point on Bourn. The defense and baserunning is – but that ain’t worth 20% of the Braves payroll, sorry.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 12th, 2012
2:00 pm
I wonder what Greinke’s ERA looks like in wins and losses?
Better than JJ’s!
Even his isn’t great… but I’m not saying that he’s so desperately important that we NEED to pay him 18mil/yr. There are other good options. Some people here say Bourn is the heart and soul of this team. Yet it’s shown that all our Braves struggle in losses. In fact, pitchers struggle in losses. TO say that we need to bring Bourn back because of his W/L splits is crazy.
MFin04
September 12th, 2012
2:00 pm
” that ain’t worth 20% of the Braves payroll, sorry.”
25% next year. :tear:
No player is worth that.
Efrim
September 12th, 2012
2:05 pm
Dees (Jersey): If Andrelton Simmons were still eligible, where would you rank him in your top 100?
Jim Callis: He still qualifies until he gets another 10 big league at-bats. I’d put him in the middle somewhere. Gifted defender who won’t be a lightweight at the plate.
Sit him so our org. ranking is higher !!! – said the blind prospect hugger
MFin04
September 12th, 2012
2:06 pm
“I wonder what Greinke’s ERA looks like in wins and losses?
Better than JJ’s!”
Actually not true either. Not even close.
raleighbravefan
September 12th, 2012
2:06 pm
cowdogit – I once again bow to your superior knowledge and understanding of the game of baseball. Since there were NO other variables invlolved in the games Georgie appeared in vs those he did not, it’s obvious that he was solely responsible for those wins.In fact, he is such an elite and important player, we should have been able to trade him for Greinke, or maybe even King Felix.
You may wish to put down those stones you are casting at those you accuse of wasting your (oh so valuable) time with their “stupid” opinions. (look in a mirror, bud).
DS1
September 12th, 2012
2:06 pm
cowdung
If your curious, look it up yourself.
Obviously, the stat nerds don’t seem to care.
DAP
September 12th, 2012
2:07 pm
we need to step it up in losses though, hunh?
MFin04
September 12th, 2012
2:07 pm
“we need to step it up in losses though?”
Technically we need to step it up in wins too. Unless you love using your bullpen to death in winning games 1-0.
Efrim
September 12th, 2012
2:08 pm
We’d probably have 4 Top 100 prospects if Simmons were eligible – Teheran, Bethancourt(I still think he gets in there because of his tools/position scarcity), and Graham(borderline) being the others.
raleighbravefan
September 12th, 2012
2:09 pm
TOBF – Actually, our pitchers have looked pretty damn good in a lot of our loses.
Efrim
September 12th, 2012
2:10 pm
BenBadler Per B-Ref, teams whose hitters have fewer combined WAR than Mike Trout: Astros, Cubs, Rockies, Marlins, Dodgers, Orioles.
“Once in a generation” level talent.
chipontheroad
September 12th, 2012
2:12 pm
The “is ought gap”is rearing its ugly head
GO BRAVOS
Venice Jim
September 12th, 2012
2:13 pm
DS1 – I went to MLB and paged through the entire MLB schedule 3 days at a time…
TennesseePaul
September 12th, 2012
2:15 pm
“Once in a generation” level talent.
Yes, but that pales compared to once in a four generation talent.
CB
September 12th, 2012
2:16 pm
Fire John Swofford!
Venice Jim
September 12th, 2012
2:16 pm
Actually, I misrepresented the facts in an effort to make myself appear more industrious – I stopped paging through as soon as i got through the western trips…
DS1
September 12th, 2012
2:17 pm
Rh
Thx VJ
MVPrado14
September 12th, 2012
2:17 pm
“But said the Phillies would end the Braves’ season on the Braves’ field for the second straight year.”
In the one-game playoff
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 12th, 2012
2:19 pm
VJ and DS1- I just scrolled through to next year on Braves current schedule
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=atl
Venice Jim
September 12th, 2012
2:20 pm
Well, that wasn’t there an hour and 15 minutes ago…
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 12th, 2012
2:26 pm
TOBF – Actually, our pitchers have looked pretty damn good in a lot of our loses.
You’re right… I can’t find a stat that shows how they’ve done in games the team has lost, I can only get it for games in which the SP got the loss.Those numbers are all pretty bad (ERA over 5 for everyone).
DS1
September 12th, 2012
2:45 pm
All games out west are early…..
ChattTownBrian
September 12th, 2012
2:48 pm
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!
ChattTownBrian
September 12th, 2012
2:51 pm
Gallardo actually stayed out late and slept about an hour this morning. He knows it’s all good. Tonight he can be at 30 % and breeze his way through this Braves lineup.
phil
September 12th, 2012
2:53 pm
The Brewers could trot Gaylord Perry out there at this point and own our pathetic lineup….
Can’t wait for October 5th!
ChattTownBrian
September 12th, 2012
2:53 pm
Poor Paul. Braun, Weeks and the rest of the Crew might just knock out the finesser in a few short innings if he’s off with his 86 mph fastballs by even less than half an inch. Poor Paul.
ChattTownBrian
September 12th, 2012
2:55 pm
Bourn might not strikeout tonight since he has good numbers against Gallarado. It’s a positive for him at this point, and us.
phil
September 12th, 2012
2:57 pm
Bourne will go 0-3 against this latest washed up wretch of a pitcher….2 ks at least.