good to have simmons back!…..but congrats to janish for is solid playing he saved us quite a few runs with his D so from all us braves fans Thanx…..looks like the team is startin to gel at just the right time.
The bats are making contact,the starters are makin qualty starts,and the bullpen has been lights out! i say dont setle for the wild card lets go win the east! {its still possiable.}
not so sure I would call myself a traditionalist because I disagree with some of the modern thoughts. I was using OBP as a scout B4 there was really even a name for it.
In this case, it’s because you never know which will be the toughest outs till they have all appeared.and you numbers guys can not see any psychological difference between setup and closing even though there have been any number of pitchers who were great relievers but flopped as closers.
I’m pretty sure the saber-guys approach will not catch on in the near future if ever other than in isolated circumstances. and what you call proof, I call simulations, which really “prove” nothing
I’d say there is enough proof out there about the difference between getting those final 3 outs only up one run. Some guys can’t pitch in high leverage situations – that’s a fact. I’d say there is a difference.
we are really back to the “clutch” debate Efrim, whether it is as a hitter or as a pitcher. THe thing is, like DOB, has said B4 you won’t find very many guys who have played high level sports who don’t recognize that some players handle stressful situations better than others do,
Nolie,
The psychological angle vs. simulation makes sense. But I gotta believe that Fredi’s move there, whether it is ever done again instead of in this most crucial September after the collapse of 2011, had to have a “plus” mental effect on the team as well, don’t you think? One of several messages that seem to have been sent – not business as usual, but rather we will fight tooth and nail for every single game now no matter how it might look.
I like it – after seeing so many years of what appeared to be “same as usual” when it came to playoff time.
perhaps in that aspect. Optimist. you might well be right..
but what if it had failed as it almost did?
but although I don’t think it is a good idea on any kind of regular basis, I gotta give Fredi props for using it, cause he left himself open to a huge amount of second guessing.
The thing is that Bill James, the original guru, has come out the last few years and said that he has second thoughts about clutch, and he is no longer certain that he denies its existence
Totally agree, noles. Don’t really care for it – just continue to be a great baserunner as he is. SB’s lead to injuries, especially for a man his size.
Upton, Victorino, Bourn, Pagan…..Gomez, DeJesus, Stubbs, Jay, Fowler, Young, Crisp, Bourjos, Cain, Span, Brantley, Rasmus…. – okay list….that’s why I’d expect Wren to get someone completely out of our radar, which may be good or bad.
Freddie looked a bit foolish on that pickoff. Don’t think it’s a problem for Freddie. He seems to be like a goose who has a short memory and wakes up in a new world every day.
just cause a guy has little command does not necessarily mean that he is nibbling, he’s just not putting it where he wants to. you can see he has missed the mitt a lot so far. same thing with Tommy often
Capt – as I efforted to say, have Brewers’ broadcast on TV (no choice), muted Braves’ broadcast on TV and listening to Jim and Don (since they are ahead) – tennis was on cab’s computer, but flipped to TV to watch the end…
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REMLEY
September 10th, 2012
7:20 pm
Is JJ in permanant exile?
Efrim
September 10th, 2012
7:21 pm
34 qualified starting pitchers in the National League have an ERA of 3.98 or lower.
19 qualified starting pitchers in the American League have an ERA that mark(3.98) or lower.
HellBilly
September 10th, 2012
7:30 pm
Enter your comments here
HellBilly
September 10th, 2012
7:36 pm
good to have simmons back!…..but congrats to janish for is solid playing he saved us quite a few runs with his D so from all us braves fans Thanx…..looks like the team is startin to gel at just the right time.
The bats are making contact,the starters are makin qualty starts,and the bullpen has been lights out! i say dont setle for the wild card lets go win the east! {its still possiable.}
nolie
September 10th, 2012
7:39 pm
it’s because it FEELS counter-intuitive.
not so sure I would call myself a traditionalist because I disagree with some of the modern thoughts. I was using OBP as a scout B4 there was really even a name for it.
In this case, it’s because you never know which will be the toughest outs till they have all appeared.and you numbers guys can not see any psychological difference between setup and closing even though there have been any number of pitchers who were great relievers but flopped as closers.
I’m pretty sure the saber-guys approach will not catch on in the near future if ever other than in isolated circumstances. and what you call proof, I call simulations, which really “prove” nothing
Efrim
September 10th, 2012
7:45 pm
I’d say there is enough proof out there about the difference between getting those final 3 outs only up one run. Some guys can’t pitch in high leverage situations – that’s a fact. I’d say there is a difference.
Murph
September 10th, 2012
7:46 pm
Last year it was KK who was sent to rot in the minors… this year it’s JJ.
Who’s next? MM?
JHarber
September 10th, 2012
7:49 pm
Murph Have you watched any games since All-Star break?
nolie
September 10th, 2012
7:51 pm
we are really back to the “clutch” debate Efrim, whether it is as a hitter or as a pitcher. THe thing is, like DOB, has said B4 you won’t find very many guys who have played high level sports who don’t recognize that some players handle stressful situations better than others do,
optimist
September 10th, 2012
7:52 pm
Nolie,
The psychological angle vs. simulation makes sense. But I gotta believe that Fredi’s move there, whether it is ever done again instead of in this most crucial September after the collapse of 2011, had to have a “plus” mental effect on the team as well, don’t you think? One of several messages that seem to have been sent – not business as usual, but rather we will fight tooth and nail for every single game now no matter how it might look.
I like it – after seeing so many years of what appeared to be “same as usual” when it came to playoff time.
nolie
September 10th, 2012
7:53 pm
should be LL , Murph
jeffrey d
September 10th, 2012
7:56 pm
Lois Lane
nolie
September 10th, 2012
7:57 pm
perhaps in that aspect. Optimist. you might well be right..
but what if it had failed as it almost did?
but although I don’t think it is a good idea on any kind of regular basis, I gotta give Fredi props for using it, cause he left himself open to a huge amount of second guessing.
JHarber
September 10th, 2012
8:00 pm
I have to give him credit for being creative
Capt.Mudd
September 10th, 2012
8:00 pm
@Efrim….7:25…..This may be the reason you are blogging on a National League team’s site/blog.
nolie
September 10th, 2012
8:00 pm
The thing is that Bill James, the original guru, has come out the last few years and said that he has second thoughts about clutch, and he is no longer certain that he denies its existence
Efrim
September 10th, 2012
8:01 pm
Agreed, nolie.
JHarber
September 10th, 2012
8:02 pm
nolie, who is LL?
nolie
September 10th, 2012
8:04 pm
nobody I know of JHarber, I was just foolin’ around. JJ, KK…LL
JHarber
September 10th, 2012
8:04 pm
OK, Had me lost.
Efrim
September 10th, 2012
8:05 pm
CaptMudd, just sort of pointing out that it’s harder to pitch in the big boys league – AL.
nolie
September 10th, 2012
8:08 pm
Ef, you mean “the Nine Hitters” league??
Brava
September 10th, 2012
8:10 pm
Go Braves!!!
Simba
September 10th, 2012
8:12 pm
basehit bourney !!
DiamondbackMac
September 10th, 2012
8:12 pm
nolie
How about II?
nolie
September 10th, 2012
8:12 pm
makes Tommy look positively svelte….
Capt.Mudd
September 10th, 2012
8:14 pm
Bianchi…..Be Yankee……oh I get it Chirp!!!
Venice Jim
September 10th, 2012
8:16 pm
Nice job, Jason! (both Chip and the Brewers’ announcer said “muscled”)…
Efrim
September 10th, 2012
8:16 pm
Nationals winning again…..3-0.
Venice Jim
September 10th, 2012
8:16 pm
Sigh…
nolie
September 10th, 2012
8:16 pm
not really even close
Fredo
September 10th, 2012
8:17 pm
meh, good throw
Capt.Mudd
September 10th, 2012
8:17 pm
@Efrim///No question where the balance of power is in MLB….the free swingers are, well, “swingers.”
Efrim
September 10th, 2012
8:20 pm
Jason at 70.3% in SB attempts. Of course, he was 8 for 8 through April and is now 11 for 19 since May 1st.
Efrim
September 10th, 2012
8:22 pm
What does everyone think about Carlos Gomez? Another name out there as a CF replacement for Bourn.
Capt.Mudd
September 10th, 2012
8:22 pm
Aoki…..Night?
nolie
September 10th, 2012
8:22 pm
Like to see Jason get 20 this season, but in general I am not a fan of guys his size with his pop running a lot
Efrim
September 10th, 2012
8:25 pm
Totally agree, noles. Don’t really care for it – just continue to be a great baserunner as he is. SB’s lead to injuries, especially for a man his size.
Efrim
September 10th, 2012
8:27 pm
nolie, you see Chris Young could be traded this winter? Your two favorites – Bossman Junior and Chris “I only hit in Zona” Young.
Capt.Mudd
September 10th, 2012
8:29 pm
That costs us….c’mon now scoop—scoop
Venice Jim
September 10th, 2012
8:29 pm
Nice job, Mike!!!
Fredo
September 10th, 2012
8:31 pm
long inning for Mike, almost 30 pitches and they only put one runner on base
nolie
September 10th, 2012
8:31 pm
difficult choice there Efrim…
George_George
September 10th, 2012
8:33 pm
Heck of a tennis match going on. GO BRAVES.
nolie
September 10th, 2012
8:33 pm
place is dead when they are on a good streak. Sad
Efrim
September 10th, 2012
8:34 pm
Upton, Victorino, Bourn, Pagan…..Gomez, DeJesus, Stubbs, Jay, Fowler, Young, Crisp, Bourjos, Cain, Span, Brantley, Rasmus…. – okay list….that’s why I’d expect Wren to get someone completely out of our radar, which may be good or bad.
Venice Jim
September 10th, 2012
8:34 pm
Enter your comments here
Venice Jim
September 10th, 2012
8:35 pm
Moron…
ncbravesfan90
September 10th, 2012
8:35 pm
Running ourselves out of it thus far….
Efrim
September 10th, 2012
8:35 pm
60 walks for Freeman. Well done.
Venice Jim
September 10th, 2012
8:35 pm
Not just me, apparently…
nolie
September 10th, 2012
8:35 pm
bases are killing us…
Capt.Mudd
September 10th, 2012
8:36 pm
Good dang morning Freddy—scouting report on catcher available!!!
Fredo
September 10th, 2012
8:36 pm
meh good throw … again
Venice Jim
September 10th, 2012
8:36 pm
nolie – I was thinking the same thing about the lack of realists being here…
Wake Up Jeff! (and Freddie)
September 10th, 2012
8:36 pm
think we have established that the Brewers catcher isn’t to be trifled with.
Venice Jim
September 10th, 2012
8:37 pm
Andy Murray up 2 breaks in the 5th…
Capt.Mudd
September 10th, 2012
8:37 pm
Slow Poke can’t wander
Wake Up Jeff! (and Freddie)
September 10th, 2012
8:37 pm
Wendy’s girl has Bozo colored hair.
Kat
September 10th, 2012
8:38 pm
Thanks for the new blog Carroll.
abeeeewright
September 10th, 2012
8:38 pm
Lex Luthor sent Lois Lane to rot in the minors?
nolie
September 10th, 2012
8:39 pm
fence posts should stay planted, not wander around
Efrim
September 10th, 2012
8:39 pm
How can folks not be rooting for Murray…..great story.
Everyone know he grew up in the town where they had that grammar school shooting Scotland? Sad story.
George_George
September 10th, 2012
8:40 pm
Outta here to watch game and sneak a peek at tennis. Nite y’all.
Wake Up Jeff! (and Freddie)
September 10th, 2012
8:40 pm
Freddie looked a bit foolish on that pickoff. Don’t think it’s a problem for Freddie. He seems to be like a goose who has a short memory and wakes up in a new world every day.
Capt.Mudd
September 10th, 2012
8:40 pm
Weeks is uggla? C’mon Joe give the guy a break
Venice Jim
September 10th, 2012
8:41 pm
Up one break in the fifth…
Bat Masterson
September 10th, 2012
8:42 pm
One realist present and a counted for here.
Venice Jim
September 10th, 2012
8:42 pm
Capt – Brewers announcers making same comparison…
nolie
September 10th, 2012
8:42 pm
MM not sharp so far, not a good thang….
Wake Up Jeff! (and Freddie)
September 10th, 2012
8:42 pm
If Mike doesn’t stop nibbling, his pitch count will have him out in the fourth!
George_George
September 10th, 2012
8:42 pm
GO MURRAY, GO BRAVES.
nolie
September 10th, 2012
8:45 pm
just cause a guy has little command does not necessarily mean that he is nibbling, he’s just not putting it where he wants to. you can see he has missed the mitt a lot so far. same thing with Tommy often
Wake Up Jeff! (and Freddie)
September 10th, 2012
8:45 pm
“Is JJ in permanant exile?”
Yes
abeeeewright
September 10th, 2012
8:45 pm
Has Sheets already thrown his sim game? If MM can’t make it through the fourth, Sheets could get his sim start against his old mates.
nolie
September 10th, 2012
8:46 pm
there was a good’un
Capt.Mudd
September 10th, 2012
8:47 pm
ISHIKAWA….ishikawa…kawa…kawa; I can’t stop this feeling, deep inside of me…..girl you just don’t realize what you mean to me……..
abeeeewright
September 10th, 2012
8:47 pm
I wonder if JJ’s permanent exile is permanent midnight.
the Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 10th, 2012
8:47 pm
May cash in early tonight, pretty tired. BUT………..GO BRAVES, bring one home for me.
Venice Jim
September 10th, 2012
8:49 pm
Way too many pitches…
nolie
September 10th, 2012
8:49 pm
How is Mrs Ghost tonight, rich?
Venice Jim
September 10th, 2012
8:49 pm
But, good…
brian
September 10th, 2012
8:50 pm
Very nice minor.
Capt.Mudd
September 10th, 2012
8:50 pm
@VJ….that’s ironic…..don’t have ‘em on…..I go withour guys for audio and visual vis-a-vis Fox Sports South [exclusively].
Mark
September 10th, 2012
8:50 pm
Gonzos “feet first torn ACL” slide, serves as more proof that not all slides that result in injury are head first!
Bat Masterson
September 10th, 2012
8:54 pm
Take care, rich. Best wishes for your wife’s health.
nolie
September 10th, 2012
8:56 pm
poor Mac. Turtles are such an apt icon for McFann
Kat
September 10th, 2012
9:07 pm
Anyone else having connection issues with the blog?
Hugo Z Hackenbush
September 10th, 2012
9:08 pm
I’ve had issues the last couple of weeks, Kat.
Brava
September 10th, 2012
9:08 pm
I am, Kat.
Train Wreck Bystander
September 10th, 2012
9:08 pm
Minor keeps finding ways out of the jam jar!
Bat Masterson
September 10th, 2012
9:08 pm
Crazy blog these days. I’m watching the game online but can’t “connect” to the blog.
Carroll Rogers
September 10th, 2012
9:09 pm
Bat, I was having problems too….just able to log back in. not sure what’s going on, but i alerted the powers that be
Venice Jim
September 10th, 2012
9:09 pm
Well done, Andy Murray!
Mark
September 10th, 2012
9:09 pm
Yes Kat
Almost to the point i’m about done
Venice Jim
September 10th, 2012
9:11 pm
Capt – as I efforted to say, have Brewers’ broadcast on TV (no choice), muted Braves’ broadcast on TV and listening to Jim and Don (since they are ahead) – tennis was on cab’s computer, but flipped to TV to watch the end…
Wake Up Jeff! (and Freddie)
September 10th, 2012
9:12 pm
Maybe it has something to do with the GoDaddy Denial of Service that Anonymous launched today.
ChattTownBrian
September 10th, 2012
9:12 pm
Brewers have to be low on money – they can’t even afford clubhouse barbers.
Venice Jim
September 10th, 2012
9:12 pm
‘Teen!!!
Kat
September 10th, 2012
9:13 pm
My connection can be spotted sometimes, just wanted to make sure it wasn’t just me. thx