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Efrim
September 11th, 2012
2:35 pm
Of course, we can always fast track J.R. Graham and see him throw 97-99mph out of a set-up role……
But I’d be very much against that, as I think he should be tried as a starter until he breaks.
ncscoots
September 11th, 2012
2:35 pm
Oh, I tossed that spoon back in April!
Ha!
Shaun
September 11th, 2012
2:35 pm
DS1 and phil, we should be more concerned with how often a hitter is getting on base and how many total bases plus walks they have and less concerned about how often they make a particular kind of out.
Efrim
September 11th, 2012
2:37 pm
Throw Graham into the fire. What the heck.
Great minds.
Seriously, I really want to see that kid succeed as a starter. Pocket Rocket. What a nickname. 3 sub-6′0” RHP’s in the rotation? Hah!
tiger297
September 11th, 2012
2:37 pm
efrim – so we keep him in the minors for 4 more years and when kimmie hits FA let him walk and bring up graham?
DAP
September 11th, 2012
2:37 pm
does anybody know if you can exchange tickets on ticketmaster, after youve bought them? im going to the game on Saturday, and im wondering if i can get different seats.
raleighbravefan
September 11th, 2012
2:38 pm
For Hurricanes NHL season and playoff tickets…Any games they don’t play (ie lockout games, playoffs that the team never plays)…If paid for, the $$$ is add to my account, to be used for later tickerts….HOWEVER, if I prefer a cash refund, I simply request it, and they refund the $$$.
ncscoots
September 11th, 2012
2:38 pm
3 sub-6′0” RHP’s in the rotation? Hah!
Plus a midget closer, don’t forget. Might start a whole new trend in scouting profiles.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 11th, 2012
2:39 pm
Graham should be starting beginning of 2014 in my opinion…. no need to move him to relief, in my opinion. I like him as a starter.
Efrim
September 11th, 2012
2:39 pm
Eric O’Flaherty’s last 44 appearances since May 8th – 38.2 IP, 30 hits, 3 ER, 12 BB’s, 34 K’s, 1 HR allowed, .224/.291/.284 oppo. slash line, 0.70 ERA.
DAP
September 11th, 2012
2:40 pm
efrim Eric O’Flaherty’s last 44 appearances since May 8th – 38.2 IP, 30 hits, 3 ER, 12 BB’s, 34 K’s, 1 HR allowed, .224/.291/.284 oppo. slash line, 0.70 ERA.
elite.
id shop him.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 11th, 2012
2:43 pm
EOF for Jay and prospects!!!
Maybe by the time Craig is gone, Matt will be ready!
flange1
September 11th, 2012
2:43 pm
More like a bowl of pitiful than sad ’scoots!
Efrim
September 11th, 2012
2:43 pm
Some see him as a reliever long term, but that’s just because of his nasty two pitch arsenal. He’ll work fine as a starter and I think they keep him there to start next year. Perhaps even in Gwinnett to start the year. Like I said, our Triple-A rotation is scheduled to be Teheran, Delgado, Gilmartin, Spruill, Graham/Hale….
Of course, there is no way that’s happening as I’m certain one of those guys is going in a trade this winter. No reason for them not to be.
Efrim
September 11th, 2012
2:44 pm
elite
You and me have a different definition for that word.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 11th, 2012
2:44 pm
FW needs to pick his trades from the list consisting of Delgado, Spuill, Graham, or Hale. Gilmartin is a ‘nole and needs to stay, and Teheran is our “top” prospect.
Efrim
September 11th, 2012
2:46 pm
I’d like em to move Hale to the bullpen. He has a pretty good FB/SL combo. Could work well and play up in the pen. Plus, his ceiling as a starter isn’t very high. He’ll turn 26 in 2013.
Hillbilly
September 11th, 2012
2:46 pm
Throw Graham into the fire. What the heck
You hush that. JRG is a starter.
DAP
September 11th, 2012
2:46 pm
seriously, though. there are sooo many relievers on the free agent marketand there will be alot available for trades. o’flarety will be the most expensive arm in the ‘pen next year, and it would be worth trying to see what we could get for him. i bet he could get us a nice outfielder if we put him in the right package.
brian
September 11th, 2012
2:47 pm
DSI – they would strike out less??
ncscoots
September 11th, 2012
2:48 pm
Some see him as a reliever long term, but that’s just because of his nasty two pitch arsenal.
Long-term, shmong-term. He can work on the changeup in his side sessions. Get that jet-gas and good slider on up here.
ChattTownBrian
September 11th, 2012
2:50 pm
I was about to say the same thing yesterday that Shaun said about how we might be a real tough playoff opponent. Our pitching is strong and so is the defense.
Efrim
September 11th, 2012
2:50 pm
Get that jet-gas and good slider on up here.
4th round. Way to go, Tony D and company.
raleighbravefan
September 11th, 2012
2:51 pm
Shaun @2:35 – I actually pretty much agree with you on that.
Hillbilly
September 11th, 2012
2:51 pm
Speaking of that topic, JJ Hoover sure has put up a nice showing in Cincinnatti, hasn’t he?
2.16 ERA, 0.96 WHIP, 27 Ks in 25 innings. 9.7 K/9, 2.7 K/BB.
Efrim
September 11th, 2012
2:52 pm
How is Arizona 69-72? They seem to have tons of talent on both sides of the ball. Serious depth all around too.
ncscoots
September 11th, 2012
2:52 pm
4th round. Way to go, Tony D and company.
Normally a round reserved for polished college lefties, in other orgs.
chipontheroad
September 11th, 2012
2:53 pm
Ilove B Mc too I just think Venters could strike out most batters if he could bounce it with out the passed balls or wild pitches he’s encounterd so often in the past
Brian from SC
September 11th, 2012
2:53 pm
How is Arizona 69-72? They seem to have tons of talent on both sides of the ball. Serious depth all around too.
11-24 in 1-run games.
raleighbravefan
September 11th, 2012
2:56 pm
It would be great if Graham has made it to Atlenta as a starter by 2014…Huddy, Hanson, and Maholm may all be gone. Be nice also to have a power arm, if for no other reason, to shut up the “no one is worth a damn unless they throw 95+” crowd.
Venice Jim
September 11th, 2012
2:58 pm
Thomas Boswell @ThomasBoswellWP
Worry in Cincy:Chapman velo down 4 mph to 94 & W-W-W wild last nite. Reds: “Shoulder fatigue.” 3rd in pitches by closers, 1143. Dusty again?
Closers also in danger of overuse w most total pitches: Aceves 1227, Axford 1226, Chapman & Clippard 1112 (91 mph last nite.) Some r < 900.
Ward
September 11th, 2012
2:58 pm
Hello everyone! Huddy, and Maholm , are pretty much staying. Hanson would be the one out.
ncscoots
September 11th, 2012
2:59 pm
You hush that. JRG is a starter.
Yeah, I know; I’m just messin’ around. They’ll probably trade some young pitching this offseason, anyway, and will need him for starter depth.
I haven’t seen him pitch live, so I have no idea whether he’s coming along on his changeup. If he is, Braves wouldn’t want to retard that progress with bullpen work.
Ward
September 11th, 2012
3:01 pm
I think Braves will lock Maholm up, and once Huddy contracts ends is a big “?”
DAP
September 11th, 2012
3:04 pm
chipontheroad I just think Venters could strike out most batters if he could bounce it with out the passed balls or wild pitches
um…except guys have to swing at those pitches. they arent, this year, because he isnt getting ahead of them.
ncscoots
September 11th, 2012
3:05 pm
Be nice also to have a power arm, if for no other reason, to shut up the “no one is worth a damn unless they throw 95+” crowd.
I won’t deny it, Teheran and Graham breaking in catchers’ mitts would delight me to no end (assuming they could actually pitch while doing it). And, hopefully, Beachy can get back to 93-94 at some point in his recovery.
It’s not so much wanting Verlander x 5 on the staff, just need some guys who can get it up there better than 90 on a good day.
Murph
September 11th, 2012
3:06 pm
I haven’t seen him pitch live, so I have no idea whether he’s coming along on his changeup. If he is, Braves wouldn’t want to retard that progress with bullpen work.
Ah, the ol’ No Changeups In The Bullpen rule. I hate that rule.
brian
September 11th, 2012
3:06 pm
the Braves will likely try to keep either Maholm or Gilmartin as their 2nd lefty in the rotation. The Braves will either trade Gilmartin or let Maholm walk after next year
brian
September 11th, 2012
3:09 pm
Beachy’s velocity should return. It would be nice to have another hard throwing righty such as Teheran or graham to go along with Beachy, Medlen, Minor, and Maholm/Gilmartin long term.
Nice balance in that rotaton – righty/lefty, hard throwers versus finesse/change up pitchers
ncscoots
September 11th, 2012
3:09 pm
Ah, the ol’ No Changeups In The Bullpen rule. I hate that rule.
More the “What The Hell Are You Doing Throwing Your Third-Best Pitch Out There, Son?” rule.
raleighbravefan
September 11th, 2012
3:10 pm
VJ – I wouldn’t let Dusty Baker within 100 yards of my pitching staff. Period!
raleighbravefan
September 11th, 2012
3:11 pm
Ward – Huddy and Maholm will both definitely be back in 2013. Both could be gone in 2014.No one knows about Hanson.
raleighbravefan
September 11th, 2012
3:14 pm
scoots – agreed, it would be nice to have both a Smoltz and a Maddux.
raleighbravefan
September 11th, 2012
3:17 pm
brian @3:09 – I agree, but you can expect TOBF, AT, and the peanut gallery to chirp in about needing Greinke.
ncscoots
September 11th, 2012
3:20 pm
it would be nice to have both a Smoltz and a Maddux.
They don’t have be HOF guys, even. Just regular old merely-elite will suit me fine.
Efrim
September 11th, 2012
3:24 pm
Normally a round reserved for polished college lefties, in other orgs.
We like to do it backwards, apparently…..
DAP
September 11th, 2012
3:25 pm
there are over 100 pitchers set to become free agents after this season. this is before options get picked up. but the point is, there are so many pitchers out there…there are going to be some guys settling for cheap one year deals. and thats just free agents. the braves will have alot of opportunity to round out a bullpen.
nolie
September 11th, 2012
3:29 pm
Braves will try to fit some of their young guys in the pen, at least to begin with. Cost efficient approach to possible quality
phil
September 11th, 2012
3:29 pm
Stinky Greinke isn’t on my Christmas list….
Trader Jack
September 11th, 2012
3:30 pm
scoots
Put me in coach, I was consistent mid 90’s in high school, and senior year touched 100 a few times
phil
September 11th, 2012
3:31 pm
We always sign us a Linebrink or durbin washed up has been type like that….
It won’t change in 2013.
ncscoots
September 11th, 2012
3:33 pm
Trader Jack, what kind of signing bonus you looking for?
ncscoots
September 11th, 2012
3:36 pm
Cost efficient approach to possible quality
And, worst case, they’ll be mediocre more cheaply. Best case, you get a Venters 2011 for the minimum.
nolie
September 11th, 2012
3:36 pm
actually both of those guys did fairly well for the Braves, Nobody has an entire pen full of ‘elite’ relievers
Trader Jack
September 11th, 2012
3:37 pm
scoots
Actually I walked away from organized ball after my senior year, totally burned out, much to the disappointment of a number of scouts.
nolie
September 11th, 2012
3:37 pm
I know I was disappointed, Jack
ncscoots
September 11th, 2012
3:43 pm
Actually I walked away from organized ball after my senior year, totally burned out
Yeah, but think about all the innings you haven’t thrown. Bet that arm is fresh and ready.
If I get the tryout for you, can I be your agent?
DAP
September 11th, 2012
3:43 pm
nolie Braves will try to fit some of their young guys in the pen, at least to begin with. Cost efficient approach to possible quality
the braves have good enough quality that they might be able to try some “filler” at some spots, especially in the ‘pen. we have several guys there now who are scrap heap projects and have been very productive for us.
Trader Jack
September 11th, 2012
3:43 pm
nolie
After talking briefly with a few of them I later came to undersatnd the meaning of the term “baseball man”
Trader Jack
September 11th, 2012
3:44 pm
scoots
No problem – will 10% satisfy you?
raleighbravefan
September 11th, 2012
3:45 pm
Actually, Durbin has been pretty good for a middle relief guy.
Trader Jack
September 11th, 2012
3:46 pm
scoots
Keep in mind during my prime i was 6′4″ and 220#, now I look more like Jonathon Broxton – LOL
Ward
September 11th, 2012
3:47 pm
Within a year from now the Braves will try to add Delgado, but I think Maholm willl stay. Braves will lock him up next year.
keyLargo
September 11th, 2012
3:47 pm
I was looking at Chippers place on the all time hits list and was pretty much astounded to see he is tied with Bill Buckner (if the two list I looked it up on are up to date). How many guesses would it take to come up with Buckner as having as many hits as Chipper?
DAP
September 11th, 2012
3:53 pm
keylargo How many guesses would it take to come up with Buckner as having as many hits as Chipper?
chipper doesnt have as many hits as you would think, but its because of his plate discipline. he may be tied with buncker in hits, but he has more than 3 times the number of walks. part of that is his good eye, and part of it is his power. pitchers tend to stay away from him.
phil
September 11th, 2012
3:54 pm
Well sure, Nolie….
I’ve watched em pitch too, and was able, between sessions of knuckle-draggin, to figure out they did and have done okay….
But in the end, neither is who I truly want out there with a game remotely on the line.
Ward
September 11th, 2012
3:55 pm
Well, all thought I would come on just a bit. Braves have 9 games to reach 90 wins, and I think they can do it. Like to see what Simmons can do tonight again. Why not just bat Constanza 9th again for a few games. That seemed get the offense going. All, have a good one. Braves can do it!!!!!!!!!!!!Peace my friends, and talk after the game……,and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
Venice Jim
September 11th, 2012
3:57 pm
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
#Braves lineup (at MIL/vsEstrada): Bourn 8, Prado 7, Heyward 9, Jones 5, McCann 2, Uggla 4, Overbay 3, Simmons 6, Hudson 1
Efrim
September 11th, 2012
4:00 pm
Freddie did look like he could use a breather. Hope this kickstarts him again for the final 19 games.
phil
September 11th, 2012
4:01 pm
Fat Freddie to the pine….
Next stop? Instructional League.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 11th, 2012
4:01 pm
McCann in front of Uggla? Guess he’s trying to get him some pitches to hit… Nice to see Overbay in there. Freddie probably needed a day off anyway.
brian
September 11th, 2012
4:02 pm
we do not need Greinke with what we have coming back.
If we can get him for $15 million/year or less than yes I am interested and we can trade off some of our pitching surplus to fill LF or get Headley from SD. He is not a $20 million/year pitcher
Ward
September 11th, 2012
4:04 pm
Before I call ita day. That might be the smartest thing Fredi, has done! Bench Freeman a few games to get him going…..Peace Out, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 11th, 2012
4:05 pm
Stinky Greinke isn’t on my Christmas list….
Heresy!!!
brian @3:09 – I agree, but you can expect TOBF, AT, and the peanut gallery to chirp in about needing Greinke.
How do you know me so well?
raleighbravefan
September 11th, 2012
4:05 pm
phil – We currently have a top rated BP. NO one has the kind of BP you are talking about…just too expensive, considering other needs.
ncscoots
September 11th, 2012
4:06 pm
Next stop? Instructional League.
phil may be sad, but he’s funny. Redeeming feature.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 11th, 2012
4:08 pm
<em.If we can get him for $15 million/year or less than yes I am interested and we can trade off some of our pitching surplus to fill LF or get Headley from SD. He is not a $20 million/year pitcher
Agree. I’m not for giving anyone $20mil, unless our payroll is 105mil. Greinke would sway me, but I’d probably say no. I don’t think Greinke is getting 20mil/yr though. 14-17mil is more likely. He does like us, so maybe we get a little discount…
I also doubt we’re getting Headley… it’ll cost waay too much. The Padres wanna keep that dude, it’s gonna cost a lot to trade for him.
Carroll Rogers
September 11th, 2012
4:10 pm
new blog is up!
http://t.co/NHFsY3qz
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 11th, 2012
4:18 pm
My rationale for Greinke is simple. We need a stud SP, a LF, and a CF. We can’t trade for all those. CF and LF are underwhelming in their FA class outside of Bourn. Same with SP. However, Greinke won’t be as bad an investment as one in Bourn would be.
Also, we desperately need a power LF. It’s gonna take quite a few prospects to get that. Try to get Shields or some other top SP, and we’ve done some damage to the farm. Get Greinke, and we can trade for that LF, and use some “pieces” to get a CF. Seems more efficient to me.
If there are any questions about my position, save them for later please. I’ll be back by 6;30. Peace.
ChattTownBrian
September 11th, 2012
4:50 pm
I posted after the game last night I hope Freddie gets a game or two off and good to see they listened … I mean, that they were thinking the same way as me.
Braveone
September 11th, 2012
5:49 pm
From the previous blog which had 840 comments, cabravesfan led the way with 74 posts. There were 94 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:
Rank Poster Frequency
1 cabravesfan 74
2 Mark 45
3 nolie 45
4 Brian from SC 43
5 Brava 33
6 TheOnlyBravesFan 33
7 Venice Jim 28
8 abeeeewright 27
9 Fredo 26
10 ncscoots 25
11 Efrim 24
12 T-Dawg 21
13 Capt.Mudd 19
14 the Ghost of Chipper Jones 19
15 George_George 18
16 Dum-Bass 17
17 DiamondbackMac 16
18 TheOnlyBravesan 16
19 VaBravesFan 16
20 M.V.P.Heyward 14
21 David O’Brien 12
22 FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ 11
23 Shaun 10
24 TennesseePaul 10
25 phil 10
the Ghost of Chipper Jones
September 11th, 2012
10:05 pm
DOWN ON THE FARM
LYNCHBURG
RHSP GUS SCHLOSSER has his second exceptional start in a row in these play-offs winning a tense 1-0 victory for the HILLCATS and putting them on the brink of Championship victory with a 2-1 lead in the five game series.
RHSP GUS SCHLOSSER [W 2-0, 0.00 ERA] 7.0 IP, 4 H, 0 R/ER, 1 BB, 7 SO, 1 Pick-Off [1B].
RHRP RYNE HARPER [H 2, 3.86 ERA] 0.2 IP, no-hits, 1 BB, 2 SO.
LHRP JUAN JAIME [SV 3, 0.00 ERA] 1.1 IP{, 1 H, zeros, 2 SO.
Lead-off LF DAN BREWER [.333 BA] 1-4, 1 RBI [2], 2 SO.
SS NICK AHMED [.261 BA] 1-4, 1 SO.
C BRAEDEN SCHLEHUBER [.263 BA] 1-3, 1 2B [1], 1 SO.
RF DAVID ROHM [.167 BA] 1-3, 1 2B [1].
*** All stats for six play-off games to date.