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Jerry
September 4th, 2012
8:36 pm
maybe I should rethink my previous statement. C’mon Ginger!
phoenix
September 4th, 2012
8:37 pm
Uggla, move over. I think Hanson is going to be your new bench-mate for a while. Hope so anyway.
Brava
September 4th, 2012
8:37 pm
No, not my opinion. The lies he told are public record and well recorded.
T-Dawg
September 4th, 2012
8:37 pm
I hate being right. Every game. Two homers. Every game.
Animus
September 4th, 2012
8:37 pm
Hung that one juuuuust a touch – there’s the two homers – W/all the hard hit balls, Braves are going to have to really work now.
It’s just never easy.
raleighbravefan
September 4th, 2012
8:37 pm
Brava – Saying it twice doesn’t make it true.
I believe Pastor DID start the year as our regular SS. How is that a lie? Who was available to compete with Jason? What makes you think Jason didn’t win the job in ST. You may not like Wren, but ….Oh, never mind. Now I don’t want to talk about it any more.
Capt.Mudd
September 4th, 2012
8:37 pm
Allright Rockies teeing off on ole Tommy….nothing new and lately he has looked rather lazy hurling those HR’s.
Tomahawk Mafia
September 4th, 2012
8:38 pm
That 0-2 curveball was demolished. The Braves might have trouble scoring a couple runs now.
MIBravesFan
September 4th, 2012
8:38 pm
Nice catch, Freddie
raleighbravefan
September 4th, 2012
8:38 pm
Sure am glad they let Hanson bat for himself the last inning.
Mark
September 4th, 2012
8:38 pm
I’ll say it again. There are high school teams that can hit pitchers that have only an 88 mph FB and a curve without command of either.
vitriol spewer (phil)
September 4th, 2012
8:38 pm
Hanson’s beer gut grows by the day…..
Sad to see another career going up in flames.
TBbravesfan
September 4th, 2012
8:38 pm
there you go t dawg
David O'Brien
September 4th, 2012
8:39 pm
One more jaw-dropping stat on Medlen: He’s 12-0 in his past 23 starts, dating to May 31, 2009. Elias Sports Bureau says the only other current major league pitcher who ever had a streak of more than 20 consecutive starts without a loss was Jose Contreras (currently on Phillies 60-day DL), who was 17-0 in 24 regular-season starts for the White Sox in a stretch that overlapped 2005 and 2006.
toast
September 4th, 2012
8:39 pm
enough of the overblown praise for our great hands shortstop. he filled a role nicely but ready for it to end. in fact, give pastor a start before simmons gets back. janish since his 3 hit game against the dodgers is 6-52. he’s been simply awful at the plate
nolie
September 4th, 2012
8:39 pm
only one homer in his previous 5 starts, so calling him two-homer obviously jinxed him.
Jerry
September 4th, 2012
8:40 pm
nolie, you sound more and more disenchanted with each passing day, or are you just playing?
Animus
September 4th, 2012
8:41 pm
Well, in Hanson’s defense, he’s only given up 22 HR’s in 26 starts! So, 2 per start is a bit of a stretch
Tomahawk Mafia
September 4th, 2012
8:41 pm
The correct portion of the lineup is due for the Braves to push across a run or two.
Ken Stallings
September 4th, 2012
8:41 pm
The Braves have been teeing off on the ball but have nothing to show for it so far. If Hanson will stop hanging sliders and surrendering solo homers then the Braves can win this game. Fact is, Hanson has better control in this game than over the last two months, but he’s still getting rocked on too many hung in the zone. He’s been about 50-50 on paying the price.
I’d like to know how Sheets is doing. Once his shoulder feels good again, I would slot him in Hanson’s spot immediately.
vitriol spewer (phil)
September 4th, 2012
8:42 pm
Fire someone.
nolie
September 4th, 2012
8:42 pm
mostly playing Jerry, but like everybody I realize their play needs to be better
ncbravesfan90
September 4th, 2012
8:43 pm
Raise your hand if you love this Braves offense….Didn’t think so
Nova Scotia Steve
September 4th, 2012
8:43 pm
If facing Tommy Hanson. How could you not just look for the breaking stuff, wait on it and drive it – it’s not like his FB is overpowering.
He’s such a different pitcher now. How can you even compare previous stats or AB’s from two or three years ago?. He was a different pitcher
Sopheee
September 4th, 2012
8:43 pm
Wake up, bats!
Nova Scotia Steve
September 4th, 2012
8:43 pm
If facing Tommy Hanson. How could you not just look for the breaking stuff, wait on it and drive it – it’s not like his FB is overpowering.
He’s such a different pitcher now. How can you even compare previous stats or AB’s from two or three years ago?. He was a different pitcher
DS1
September 4th, 2012
8:43 pm
nolie
Lew made a comment earlier that stated how many of Hanson’s starts have turned into W’s for the Braves. I guess he can suck some if we still win the game anyway, huh?
BFChris
Agreed on Reed Johnson’s AB!!!
CTB
Admit it, you don’t like Big Red because he is tall, rich and handsome and playing major league baseball. And you are not (playing baseball, don’t know if you are tall, handsome or rich). And me too!!
Plus he is a Californian! That bugs you, for some reason. Not sure why. I LOVE California. Just spent a wonderful week there and visited w/ my new friends cab, VJ and Kat while there!
Tomahawk Mafia
September 4th, 2012
8:44 pm
Bourn with two more strike outs tonight. That is something that I will not miss if he walks away.
Mark
September 4th, 2012
8:44 pm
They just made a public service announement at the park. “Please, while Hanson is pitching and for your own safety, pay very close attention for fast moving very hard hit baseballs entering the foul ball areas as well as the seats behind the outfield wall. You are responsible for your own safety”!
Teddy B
September 4th, 2012
8:45 pm
Tommy Hanson….the Launch Pad. ANOTHER Home Run? Its almost like Micky D’s slogan: Over 1 Billion Served. Hanson just might get that many if Fumbling Fredi keeps him in there! Fredi is asleep behind the wheel for us. We had quite a few runners in scoring position already today and nobody has been able to come through.
This is a nightmare. Wake me up when Fredi is gone and Hanson learns how to pitch please. If you told me at the beginning of the season that Tommy Hanson would be our worst pitcher down the most vital stretch of the season, I’d have laughed even though I have never personally put much faith in Hanson to begin with. I have always known that he is 99% hype (most of which comes from his mega-super-moneygrubbing agent) and 1% talent.
All Hanson has shown me is that when given a 5-10 run lead he just might win a game here and there, but seriously he sucks unless the offense props him up. I think at this point I’d rather have Jurrgens pitching. No joke. Hanson sucks.
brian
September 4th, 2012
8:45 pm
nice to see the old Tommy Hanon pitching tonight. Too bad the Braves forgot their bats so far tonight
No Flag Since Lemke
September 4th, 2012
8:45 pm
Agree with others – time for Fredi to also show a lack of patience with the automatic out in the eight hole. Nice glove but he kills two rallies a night.
Jerry
September 4th, 2012
8:45 pm
My guess is that they thought Tyler would do better than he did. Its not like its an exact science and being wrong is an intentional lie nolie
maybe “do better than he did” is the wrong way to put it. Maybe they didn’t know he would be that bad defensively.
David O'Brien
September 4th, 2012
8:45 pm
If you get the opportunity, please ask Fredi if the Braves win the wild card, would Medlen be given consideration to pitch that game? Thank you in advance sir! — Jerry
Said before game he hasn’t thought of that yet, has a lot more to worry about first.
Brava
September 4th, 2012
8:45 pm
Frank did a radio interview on Nov 9, i believe it was and stated Pastornicky was not teaxy for the majors according to his scouts and evaluators. It wasn’t too long after, a few weeks, maybe that he announced Pastornicky was ready for the majors and would be the starting SS. I can prove this after thr game when I get back to my computer. I’m sure someone here remembers Frank saying Jason wasn’t guaranteed a starting position and would have to earn it in ST at the end of the season. Many h
TBbravesfan
September 4th, 2012
8:45 pm
I think we have the fastest bat swings of any team.
brian
September 4th, 2012
8:45 pm
2 solo HRs over 5 innings is not a shabby performance.
T-Dawg
September 4th, 2012
8:46 pm
Nolie,
Uggla has a 5 game hitting streak. See…I can use small sample sizes too.
DS1
September 4th, 2012
8:46 pm
Too many warning track balls………..
nolie
September 4th, 2012
8:46 pm
can’t catch a break tonight. lotta atom balls
Fredo
September 4th, 2012
8:47 pm
starting that lefty really got this team off balance
Tomahawk Mafia
September 4th, 2012
8:47 pm
This has the feel of a Braves shut out.
nolie
September 4th, 2012
8:47 pm
it was a joke FCS
Brava
September 4th, 2012
8:47 pm
Sorry about the typos. I’m on a Kindle and it posted befote I could make corrections.
stizz
September 4th, 2012
8:48 pm
Exactly phil,
Medlen pretty much alluded to it by saying he tries to drag Tommy along to go running with him. Dude has got to get himself in better shape.
Nova Scotia Steve
September 4th, 2012
8:49 pm
The “old Tommy Hanson” threw 95MPH.
nolie
September 4th, 2012
8:49 pm
It wasn’t too long after, a few weeks, maybe that he announced Pastornicky was ready for the majors and would be the starting SS..Brava
so what, maybe the scouts changed their minds, conspiracy theory is so boring
cabravesfan
September 4th, 2012
8:49 pm
Brava-
None of that means he lied. Pastornicky earned the spot in spring training- it may have been his to lose, but it was not in any way guaranteed until camp was over. And how is saying Jason had to earn his spot, on November 9th, after the season he had, lying? Players get re-evaluated all the time. Just because someone says something does not mean it is set in stone and they can’t change their minds based on evidence that proves otherwise.
Mark
September 4th, 2012
8:49 pm
5 innings has been about it lately for Hanson – Hope that doesn’t hold true now
T-Dawg
September 4th, 2012
8:51 pm
Fredo
September 4th, 2012
8:47 pm
starting that lefty really got this team off balance
Correction. starting a pitcher with a heartbeat really got this team off balance.
TBbravesfan
September 4th, 2012
8:51 pm
Maybe if we would slow our swing down by about 200 m p h we might get a hit are 2
DS1
September 4th, 2012
8:51 pm
A lie is when you come in after a night of drinking and tell your wife that you were at the library!
Stating in an interview that a guy is not ready and then changing that opinion later is NOT a lie. It’s a statement of facts at the moment.
Words mean things. Calling someone a liar is a serious charge, and you do it so matter of factly.
Get off it please. (see, I asked nicely)
Jerry
September 4th, 2012
8:51 pm
mostly playing Jerry, but like everybody I realize their play needs to be better nolie
Totally agree!
Tomahawk Mafia
September 4th, 2012
8:51 pm
I foresee Hanson running into trouble here with facing the top of the order for the third time.
brian
September 4th, 2012
8:51 pm
I am worried about McCann’s shoulder. Cortisone shots are not going to help the injury much – it is not like you are trying to decrease inflammation (except for maybe arthritis related to the injury). The frayed/partially torn labrum is still torn and the resulting cyst is still pushing on the nerve to the infraspinatus (a muscle of the rotator cuff).
I hope he has had nerve conduction studies – if they are showig an effect on the nerve that cyst has to be drained or he risks permanent damage. He could have a CT or ultrasound guided needle aspiration of the cyst and worry about the labrum later though with the labrum still “frayed” he could still develop anoher cyst. Labrum repairs, depending on the extent of damage and what arm is affected, could keep him out 6 months to up to 2 years
raleighbravefan
September 4th, 2012
8:51 pm
Brava – It’s OK. We all now believe that Wren is a liar, and we are real bummed about it.
Jees, girl, you are starting to sound like Robert and Don. It’s not really that big of a deal.
vitriol spewer (phil)
September 4th, 2012
8:52 pm
The rarest of the rare…..
A 90 mph fastball from TH.
Teddy B
September 4th, 2012
8:53 pm
I’d like to see Julio Teheran, Delgado, or Jurrgens pitch instead of Tommy “Longball” Hanson. We can’t afford to give up every 5th game at this point. There are too many teams aiming at our wild card spot at this point and 1 or 2 of them is bound to get hot down the stretch.
I don’t think Fredi has yet realized that we have to protect this poor man’s Wild Card lead with tooth and nail at this point and not give up an inch. Fredi keeps starting this bum-scrub-already has been pitcher who has been in the majors for 3 years and already forgot how to pitch. Amazing..
Scott Boras and Hanson might as well forget about that huge mega deal that has Tommy daydreaming about dollar signs while he should be paying attention to what kind of junk he’s throwing and not giving up home runs and runs like its going out of style. We can’t mess around in September, as the last year has shown us….or else we’re gonna get burnt. Real bad. Again.
richbrave
September 4th, 2012
8:53 pm
Hillbilly
September 4th, 2012
4:22 pm
“……Ross Detwiler, Edwin Jackson, Gio Gonzalez, Josh Johnson, Mark Buehrle, Ricky Nolasco, Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, and Cole Hamels in that order…….”
The road to victory in 2012 lies through the wilderness of the N.L. East
Brava
September 4th, 2012
8:53 pm
Paztornicky was announced as the starting SS long before ST. Sometime after Frank had gone on tecord saying he wasn’t teady for the majors.
tiger297
September 4th, 2012
8:53 pm
on j-hey who is to say the time spent preseason working with walker wasnt earning his spot?
Brava
September 4th, 2012
8:54 pm
Pastornicky was announced as the starting SS long before ST. Sometime after Frank had gone on record saying he wasn’t ready for the majors.
richbrave
September 4th, 2012
8:54 pm
BRAVA:
Yes, I remember the consternation that stirred up.
TBbravesfan
September 4th, 2012
8:54 pm
well it was not a homer
stizz
September 4th, 2012
8:54 pm
I really hope Fredi doesn’t try to stretch Tommy for another inning.
Capt.Mudd
September 4th, 2012
8:54 pm
Hanson, my God Fredi go get him. Are we in fact in a damn wild card race?
nolie
September 4th, 2012
8:54 pm
bull, he hits 90 fairly regularly, even 91 or 92 once in a while
cabravesfan
September 4th, 2012
8:55 pm
Announcing that he was going to be the starter does not mean he could have lost the job- if Simmons had not gotten hurt, there is a very good possibility that he would have made the club instead. But again, just because someone says something does not mean he cannot change his mind or is a liar.
Jerry
September 4th, 2012
8:55 pm
Said before game he hasn’t thought of that yet, has a lot more to worry about first. DOB
Thanks for the info.
ChattTownBrian
September 4th, 2012
8:55 pm
DS1, Hanson tonight is actually the best I think I’ve seen him in a while. And I’m not tall, just 5′11′, not rich either. The other thing … maybe.
tiger297
September 4th, 2012
8:55 pm
Correction. starting a pitcher with a heartbeat really got this team off balance.
well damn now I’m impressed with the rockies pitcher last night…he pitched damn well for a guy without a heartbeat
nolie
September 4th, 2012
8:55 pm
yup conspiracy abounds
Mark
September 4th, 2012
8:55 pm
Sure was cloudy and rainy today in the south, wasn’t it?
What do you mean you dummy? It was overcast and drizzly and we aren’t in the south, we are in between the east and the west! Don’t you know anyhting?
flange1
September 4th, 2012
8:57 pm
If anyone gets tired of conspiracy theories, there is a great small venue Norah Jones special on Paladia right now
She is quite talented with a top notch band!
cabravesfan
September 4th, 2012
8:57 pm
Also, it’s not like we had many options at SS and Pastornicky was the farthest along developmentally among all the options.
cabravesfan
September 4th, 2012
8:57 pm
Also, it’s not like we had many options at SS and Pastornicky was the farthest along developmentally among all the options.
Brava
September 4th, 2012
8:57 pm
Whatever, you were the one acting like I was making stuff up. The man has a history of lying, so I’m not buying some story that appeared two weeks ago.
ChattTownBrian
September 4th, 2012
8:57 pm
phil, he’s hit 90 mph quite a bit tonight.
richbrave
September 4th, 2012
8:57 pm
Still 2 zip HANSON pitching?
tiger297
September 4th, 2012
8:57 pm
it was hit slowly…would dan have gotten to that one?
keyLargo
September 4th, 2012
8:57 pm
It’s a shame this Carlos Gonzalez guy can’t play anywhere but Colorado?
richbrave
September 4th, 2012
8:58 pm
cabravesfan
September 4th, 2012
8:57 pm
“……Also, it’s not like we had many options at SS and Pastornicky was the farthest along developmentally among all the options……”
That’s true.
cabravesfan
September 4th, 2012
8:58 pm
Brava-
Was that last comment directed at me?
nolie
September 4th, 2012
8:58 pm
he has a history of lying IN YOUR OPINION you mean
DS1
September 4th, 2012
8:58 pm
CTB
And I’m only 6′1″, but as the ladies would say, deceptively handsome!!! (don’t believe me, ask cab!!)
But not rich. Though I was an OK pitcher when I was in Pee Wee league!
Tomahawk Mafia
September 4th, 2012
8:58 pm
Time for Hanson’s night to end.
stizz
September 4th, 2012
8:59 pm
Good job Fredi
Fredo
September 4th, 2012
8:59 pm
can’t go 6
Mark
September 4th, 2012
8:59 pm
The last AB, just for the record unless my TV screen is wrong!
curve, 1-0 FB was 89, 2-0 crve, 3-0 FB 89, curve and ball 4
Brava
September 4th, 2012
8:59 pm
At least Hanson made it past the fifth. I’m surprised.
Animus
September 4th, 2012
9:00 pm
Well, about time for Moylan – bases juiced. 5 2/3 tonight for Tommy. Pitched better tonight, granted it was against the Rockies, but…take positives where you can find them. Speed was pretty good most of the night – constantly 89 – 91.
brian
September 4th, 2012
9:00 pm
this is huge for the bullpen to pick Tommy up here. Pete needs to do better than CMART did 2 nights ago when he came in and faced Hamels
ncbravesfan90
September 4th, 2012
9:00 pm
Folks will blame Hanson tonight, but the blame should be on the offense. 1-8 starter with a 5+ ERA with multiple scoring chances early in the game and couldnt score….not that that’s a surprise or anything…
Brava
September 4th, 2012
9:00 pm
Whatever, nolie. I can prove it.
nolie
September 4th, 2012
9:00 pm
Biggest problem with Hanson is not his velocity, it is his lack of enough command to put it where he wants it, if he had near the command of Meds he would be doing much better.There are plenty of guys who have won with 90MPH FBs and a good curve
Jerry
September 4th, 2012
9:01 pm
And Hanson still can’t get through the 6th inning. Not good at all. Moylan coming in and that concerns me. I know he was the winner pitcher the other night, but I just think this is too soon to put him in a tight situation like this.
Brava
September 4th, 2012
9:01 pm
No, cab.
Animus
September 4th, 2012
9:01 pm
Well – Moylan w/the one pitch inning, Braves score 3 and he’s the vulture again
Tomahawk Mafia
September 4th, 2012
9:01 pm
Hanson retired the first two with ease, but then the trouble mounted like we all thought it would. I said a few days ago that I thought Peter Moylan had no business pitching in high-leverage situations, but here he is.
nolie
September 4th, 2012
9:01 pm
you have not proven a thing except in your mind