Since move to rotation, Medlen’s been Maddux-esque

(more...)

1,470 comments Add your comment

TennesseePaul

September 4th, 2012
4:28 pm

They’re all in Witless Protection @keithlaw do Uggla contract defenders send you apologies by Twitter or regular mail?”

We’re all still awaiting KLaw’s apology which he apparently made while in Witless relocation… it just, really? balsamic vinaigrette references?

Robert

September 4th, 2012
4:30 pm

DOB,

Sportscenter did a story last night that made it sound that Medlin is on an innings limit this year (trying to compare his situation to Strausberg). I’ve not seen any article by you, Carroll, or on website that mentions that. Is there any truth to that? Is that really part of reason he was put in bullpen first?

Nativebird

September 4th, 2012
4:30 pm

Medlin’s brilliance is another clear example of the fact that Fred Gonzales doesn’t know what he’s doing….and is in way over his head. Guy should pave been not only in the rotation…..but at the Top of the rotation long ago….and yes, MANY people were saying so.

Bat Masterson

September 4th, 2012
4:30 pm

Hillbilly @ 4:22

Thanks, man. I feel better all ready.

Heisenberg

September 4th, 2012
4:30 pm

I was saying it 2 starts ago….Medlen should get some CY votes if he continues anything close this through end of year. Now that national media is on board it could come to pass. Just need to get him on a national broadcast for all to see.

tony austin

September 4th, 2012
4:33 pm

It didn’t even dawn on me about yesterday being a Monday. WTG Braves, a rare Monday win!

vitriol spewer (phil)

September 4th, 2012
4:34 pm

If Medlen implodes here before long, then what?

RC

September 4th, 2012
4:35 pm

Medlin’s brilliance is another clear example of the fact that Fred Gonzales doesn’t know what he’s doing….and is in way over his head. Guy should pave been not only in the rotation…..but at the Top of the rotation long ago….and yes, MANY people were saying so.

In which case he would be approaching his innings limit for the season and might need to be shut down, much like Strasburg is being handled.

Venice Jim

September 4th, 2012
4:35 pm

Atlanta Braves ‏@Braves
RHP Kris Medlen has been named NL Pitcher of the Month for August.

ncscoots

September 4th, 2012
4:36 pm

Good grief. The Braves aren’t trading Dan Uggla.

Long time fan

September 4th, 2012
4:36 pm

Hillbilly, your pitching prediction is viable except consider that Miami could change their rotation and go with youth. However, one never knows.
DOB, how is the weather looking? Want to see if Hanson looks bad or does what is needed.

Bat Masterson

September 4th, 2012
4:36 pm

Congrats to the flat-billed kid

Shaun

September 4th, 2012
4:36 pm

Efrim, exactly right @4:22. Let’s say they can work out a trade or a signing for some pretty good outfielders. I wouldn’t be all that opposed to going with Pastornicky and/or someone else at second that might merely provide above-replacement-level value. There are definitely some contingencies to an Uggla trade. They shouldn’t move him just to get rid of him.

TennesseePaul

September 4th, 2012
4:37 pm

I just meant moving him for some salary relief, paying some of his salary and perhaps not getting back a whole lot.

They wouldn’t get that much relief. They would still need to fill the void of a right handed hitter with power. They’d be paying that new player, plus Uggla. It’s why I don’t see them trading him until after next year, when he has two years left and they could send $4M total in a deal and it would potentially work well for both clubs. As it is, 3 years left on his contract, it wouldn’t work well for the Braves. They’d have to send a lot, with him coming off this year. Had he put up another Dunn-esque season, 30+ HR, 60+ XBH, .350 OBP, and a .200 average with 200 K’s, he’d get more attention. Teams would see him as that type of player, and he could have 15 teams that might could use him simply by nature of league. But, this season is selling low on Uggla. He could bounce back.

Lastly, I read all those posts/articles/tweets about the contract and Uggla. Not one of them claimed he would pull an Andruw Jones. Not a single one. This 2012 season was not in the projects. Not even in KLaw Witless Relocation days.

RC

September 4th, 2012
4:37 pm

Sportscenter did a story last night that made it sound that Medlin is on an innings limit this year (trying to compare his situation to Strausberg). I’ve not seen any article by you, Carroll, or on website that mentions that. Is there any truth to that? Is that really part of reason he was put in bullpen first?

Wren has mentioned that a few times during the season, but not much talk came out about it until the past month or so. It makes sense that they wouldn’t send him out for 200 innings the season after TJ surgery, but at the same time I don’t think that his being in the bullpen as long as he was is entirely due to limiting his innings…I think it’s because the Braves management was hesitant to make a move too quickly with Jurrjens.

tony austin

September 4th, 2012
4:37 pm

I’m playing pumpkin ball this evening. For those who may not have heard about it, it’s softball played with a 16″ ball. 46 years old (about 3 weeks away from 47), overweight, bad knees. Not the best combination.

Think they’ll trade me for Uggla? :)

Just kidding, have a good day everyone and Go Braves!

toast

September 4th, 2012
4:38 pm

I was saying it 2 starts ago….Medlen should get some CY votes

que?

Efrim

September 4th, 2012
4:38 pm

Ross Detwiler, Edwin Jackson, Gio Gonzalez, Josh Johnson, Mark Buehrle, Ricky Nolasco, Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, and Cole Hamels in that order.

5 LHP and a couple of stud RHP’s. Awesome. I’d really rather face good RHP’s than bad LHP at this point.

Good grief. The Braves aren’t trading Dan Uggla.

Most likely right. Just sorta don’t agree with the flat out benching of him. Surprised me, is all.

Abnerish

September 4th, 2012
4:39 pm

Heyward has been raking against lefties, and besides that, him and Freddie need to become everyday players, not platoon players, so of course you leave them in. With Uggs out, that means the Braves will platoon LF. However, if Constanza doesn’t produce, I think the platoon is Uggla at 2B and Prado in LF against RHP and Johnson LF, Prado 2B against LHP.

DAP

September 4th, 2012
4:39 pm

i might trade uggla, but all of his salary would be going with him.

raleighbravefan

September 4th, 2012
4:40 pm

scoots @4:36 – This is a prime example of fantasy team mentality.

RC

September 4th, 2012
4:41 pm

Good grief. The Braves aren’t trading Dan Uggla.

Most likely right. Just sorta don’t agree with the flat out benching of him. Surprised me, is all.

I actually do think that benching him is the right move at this point in time….next year is another story. That said, I’m going to wait until he’s been “benched” for at least a week before I believe that this is necessarily sticking. Remember when Kimbrel and Venters started the season a “co-closers”? FG’s actions don’t always sync up with what he says he’s going to do.

Efrim

September 4th, 2012
4:41 pm

No one saw 100 OPS+ over the course of years 1 and 2 of the 5 year deal. Not even the guys that hated this deal and called it from day one.

RC

September 4th, 2012
4:42 pm

i might trade uggla, but all of his salary would be going with him.

If you can tell me what team would possibly make that deal, I’m sure Frank Wren would be all ears.

TennesseePaul

September 4th, 2012
4:42 pm

Wren has mentioned that a few times during the season, but not much talk came out about it until the past month or so. It makes sense that they wouldn’t send him out for 200 innings the season after TJ surgery

It will be interesting to see how they manage Beachy over the next two years…

Brava

September 4th, 2012
4:43 pm

Congratulations to Kris! Well deserved.

Efrim

September 4th, 2012
4:43 pm

Heyward has been raking against lefties,

He has had some nice hits vs. tough LHP’s in Bumgarner and Hamels over the last 10 games – but “raking against lefties” is a term I wouldn’t use in describing Heyward….

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 4th, 2012
4:43 pm

Congrats Med-Dog!

don’t agree with the flat out benching of him.

This. If we’re gonna get far in the post-season, we will have a decent Dan Uggla in the lineup… he needs to play at some point to get on a run. It’s kinda late in the season to bench a starter…

Memphis

September 4th, 2012
4:43 pm

Uggla isnt getting traded.

RC

September 4th, 2012
4:43 pm

However, if Constanza doesn’t produce, I think the platoon is Uggla at 2B and Prado in LF against RHP and Johnson LF, Prado 2B against LHP.

This makes a lot of sense.

vitriol spewer (phil)

September 4th, 2012
4:44 pm

And the Hawks weren’t ever gonna be able to trade Joe Johnson until one day they traded him….

Uggla is killing us. I say he goes bye bye at some point here.

I might be dead wrong, but oh how I hope I’m right.

Efrim

September 4th, 2012
4:44 pm

It will be interesting to see how they manage Beachy over the next two years…

160-180 innings in 2014. Isn’t that the mark now? Like 100 pitches for young guys during a start.

Sigh….ESPN and Strasburg…..hated it. ;)

TennesseePaul

September 4th, 2012
4:45 pm

No one saw 100 OPS+ over the course of years 1 and 2 of the 5 year deal.

Exactly. Just as everyone should be impressed by Medlen’s performance exceeding even the wildest anti-scoots-viewpoint… No one thought Uggla would do this in his first two years.

DAP

September 4th, 2012
4:45 pm

RC If you can tell me what team would possibly make that deal, I’m sure Frank Wren would be all ears.

thats kinda my point.

RC

September 4th, 2012
4:46 pm

This. If we’re gonna get far in the post-season, we will have a decent Dan Uggla in the lineup… he needs to play at some point to get on a run. It’s kinda late in the season to bench a starter…

It’s a tough question, because to even get INTO the postseason your best chance might be by not playing Dan Uggla right now.

ncscoots

September 4th, 2012
4:46 pm

Beachy should have the full 18 months of recovery by ST of 2014, I think. No need to limit his innings in that year.

TennesseePaul

September 4th, 2012
4:47 pm

160-180 innings in 2014. Isn’t that the mark now? Like 100 pitches for young guys during a start.

If it keeps him around and healthy for many years, it’s totally worth it. The team just needs to plan aptly to remain competitive.

I do appreciate how the one guy in the pen getting all the innings, is a vet, salvaged, and on a one year deal. That’s the type of player you ride into the ground.

Brava

September 4th, 2012
4:47 pm

Hanson will probably go 5-6 while giving up 2-3 runs, at best.

That’s quite generous. Have you been watching him pitch lately?

I think tonight will either be a slugfest, or the Braves will, once again, be the victims of a struggling pitcher getting right. Whatever happens, I’ll be surprised if Hanson can make it through 5 innings without giving up four runs. Hopefully, Fredi has a choker leash on him, heck, a shock collar. :)

RC

September 4th, 2012
4:49 pm

Hanson will probably go 5-6 while giving up 2-3 runs, at best.

That’s quite generous. Have you been watching him pitch lately?

Hanson has been bad, but have you watched the Rockies hit outside of Coors this year? Neither has anyone else, because they DON’T hit outside of Coors.

ncscoots

September 4th, 2012
4:49 pm

Just as everyone should be impressed by Medlen’s performance exceeding even the wildest anti-scoots-viewpoint… No one thought Uggla would do this in his first two years.

The performance of the two players is simply a sign that the poles have reversed, when we weren’t looking. I expect we’ll all be floating off the face of the earth any minute now.

I can’t come up with any other explanation.

Heisenberg

September 4th, 2012
4:51 pm

“Think they’ll trade me for Uggla?”
***********

Yes Tony, and give you a 5 year 62 mil contract.

TennesseePaul

September 4th, 2012
4:51 pm

because to even get INTO the postseason your best chance might be by not playing Dan Uggla right now.

Doubtful. With the way the guy was drawing walks, he was still helpful. We’ve seen some guys come through here and just suck the wind out of an offense… and completely earn “benching” or “part-timing”. I just don’t think the team will see all that much of an improvement or difference with such a short time left. I suspect at best it will be a wash, at worst it will be a missed 27 game hit streak with 13 HR by Uggla….

DAP

September 4th, 2012
4:51 pm

10paul It will be interesting to see how they manage Beachy over the next two years…

doesnt seem like it will be an issue next year, since he wont even be back from surgery until july or something. in 2014 they might need to have an early hook.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 4th, 2012
4:53 pm

Rockies don’t hit outside of Coor’s which might help Hanson…. however, with the way he’s been pitching, the LLWS Champs could rock him. ;) He really needs to pound the zone with his *gulp* 88mph fastball. Don’t nibble please. Hope he does okay, but not feeling it. Much like Jurrjens, he has done nothing lately to convince me to believe that he can consistently get MLB hitters out.

lanier

September 4th, 2012
4:53 pm

DOB, whats the deal with Uggla. Is he too big of a pro to listen to the hitting coaches or is he just a washed up player

RC

September 4th, 2012
4:55 pm

however, with the way he’s been pitching, the LLWS Champs could rock him

Yeah, but the Rockies don’t have any hitters as good as that big kid on the Japanese team

tony austin

September 4th, 2012
4:56 pm

Yes Tony, and give you a 5 year 62 mil contract – Heisenberg

Woo hoo, I’m rich!!

Brava

September 4th, 2012
4:57 pm

Let’s hope they don’t, RC. I just don’t trust Hanson, at all.

MFin04

September 4th, 2012
4:57 pm

“Yeah, but the Rockies don’t have any hitters as good as that big kid on the Japanese team”

3 hrs and a triple, that is one heck of an OPS.

Shaun

September 4th, 2012
4:57 pm

Lastly, I read all those posts/articles/tweets about the contract and Uggla. Not one of them claimed he would pull an Andruw Jones. Not a single one. This 2012 season was not in the projects. Not even in KLaw Witless Relocation days.

TennesseePaul, I would say a 92 OPS+ shouldn’t be all that shocking. What is shocking is that he got there with a fairly respectable OBP and an unimpressive SLG.

This is not an Andruw Jones type season. Andruw’s OPS+ in his final season with the Braves was 87.

As far as trading him, I do agree that it’s contingent on plenty of things whether it’s worth it to the Braves. I don’t know that it’s necessarily contingent upon the Braves getting another right-handed power-hitter, although that would be nice. The right-handed aspect may be important. But as far as whether a hitter’s production comes mostly from power or from getting on base or a little of both, I don’t think that would matter, as long as the player produces.

Most likely right. Just sorta don’t agree with the flat out benching of him. Surprised me, is all.

Efrim, the benching is odd. Again, I can understand it against lefties because Reed Johnson and Jeff Baker can hit lefties. But it’s odd to just make him more or less a bench player.

Of course, we don’t have all the information either. If he’s hurt or something, that changes things. But I view it a lot like the Heyward situation last year. You don’t just bench a player because he’s disappointing. If he’s your best option, disappointing is not a good enough reason to bench him.

CJ10 saved our season

September 4th, 2012
4:59 pm

It goes against all logic, but I wonder if sticking Uggla in the lineup in a run-producing spot would have been better. He might have seen more fastballs and gotten more opportunities to drive in runs. He’s hitting like a bottom of the order guy because that’s where he’s been.

CF Bourn
LF Prado
RF Heyward
3B Chipper
2B Uggla
1B Freeman
C McCann
SS Janish

This Rockies series may have been a good one to try it. He goes 2-16, you bench him. He goes 6-16 with a couple of HRs, you ride it.

tiger297

September 4th, 2012
4:59 pm

David O’Brien‏@ajcbraves

#Braves will not recall Jair Jurrjens from Triple-A for balance of season

aint that a kick in the head (although not really surprising)

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 4th, 2012
5:01 pm

damn… poor JJ….. too classy to cut him though. He just lost it. Injuries are a biatch. Didn’t deserve to come back though.

MFin04

September 4th, 2012
5:01 pm

:( (I’d do a crying tear face but I don’t know that one)

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 4th, 2012
5:03 pm

JJ and Hanson… too guys who had lots of promise, then got hurt. Hope those 2 get healthy again, and pitch well for someone (not the Braves)

Shaun

September 4th, 2012
5:04 pm

No one saw 100 OPS+ over the course of years 1 and 2 of the 5 year deal. Not even the guys that hated this deal and called it from day one.

I don’t think a projection of a 100 OPS+ would have been that far off. He came to the Braves with a 117 OPS+ going in to his age 31 season.

whats the deal with Uggla. Is he too big of a pro to listen to the hitting coaches or is he just a washed up player

Something reasonable close to a league average offensive player at secondbaseman isn’t really washed up. But I think age-related decline and some randomness is the major culprit here.

Long time fan

September 4th, 2012
5:04 pm

Maybe we have JJ go down to instructional league and see if it is worth keeping him in 2013 or to trade him. The answer looks obvious but he could come back and have an awesome season for somebody else. That seems to happen to the Braves all the time.

Brava

September 4th, 2012
5:05 pm

Feel bad for JJ. Maybe he can do something in the off-season to get his pitching in order. I hope so. Have always really liked the guy.

RC

September 4th, 2012
5:05 pm

damn… poor JJ….. too classy to cut him though. He just lost it. Injuries are a biatch. Didn’t deserve to come back though.

No reason to cut him. You are going to be paying him anyway, and if 3 pitchers in your starting rotation all get food poisoning or something, he’s at least a warm body on your 40-man roster who can probably throw 5 innings of respectable major league baseball for you in a pinch.

Bat Masterson

September 4th, 2012
5:05 pm

Lew

September 4th, 2012
5:05 pm

Medlen missed all of last year (except for about 5 IP). As of June 30 of this season, he had not pitched more than 3 Innings and only 2-3 IP three times. From May 24 of this year through June 30, he had given up 20 hits and 8 ER in his last 14IP.

Medlen – at least as of June 30, was just not ready to move into the rotation.

Dude’s pitching as well as anyone I’ve seen in 55 years of watching the game, but let’s not 20-20 Hindsight the situation.

Bat Masterson

September 4th, 2012
5:05 pm

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 4th, 2012
5:05 pm

RC

September 4th, 2012
5:06 pm

JJ and Hanson… too guys who had lots of promise, then got hurt. Hope those 2 get healthy again, and pitch well for someone (not the Braves)

Well, you’ve likely got at least one more season of Hanson with the Braves, so better that he pitch well for them than not.

As for JJ, I think he’s pitched his last game in an Atlanta Braves uniform (at least for the next few years).

MFin04

September 4th, 2012
5:07 pm

David O'Brien

September 4th, 2012
5:08 pm

DOB, how is the weather looking? Want to see if Hanson looks bad or does what is needed — Long time fan

Tarp’s on field, no rain yet but forecast is dicey. But then, it was a lot worse forecast yesterday and it never rained a drop here.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 4th, 2012
5:08 pm

he’s at least a warm body on your 40-man roster who can probably throw 5 innings of respectable major league baseball for you in a pinch.

I’d debate it being respectable and him being able to go 5 innings, but I do get your point… I’m sure that someone in AAA who wasn’t on the 40 man could’ve done that though.

(btw, I do not hate JJ, there was confusion about that before!)

RC

September 4th, 2012
5:09 pm

It goes against all logic, but I wonder if sticking Uggla in the lineup in a run-producing spot would have been better. He might have seen more fastballs and gotten more opportunities to drive in runs. He’s hitting like a bottom of the order guy because that’s where he’s been.

That does go against all logic. Uggla spent the first 2 months of the season in a “run-producing spot”, and didn’t do jack with it. He was still in there on a fairly regular basis in the past month due to McCann and Chipper getting days off. He’s hitting like a bottom of the order guy because that’s what his talent level this season has produced.

cricket

September 4th, 2012
5:09 pm

he could come back and have an awesome season for somebody else. That seems to happen to the Braves all the time.

fandom is funny. you will unmistakably find following comment on other teams’ blogs – beware if braves are trading pitching, they always know when a pitcher is about to go south.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 4th, 2012
5:09 pm

MFin04

September 4th, 2012
5:12 pm

“but I wonder if sticking Uggla in the lineup in a run-producing spot would have been better.”

He actually had great numbers recently hitting lower in the order. Even jacked a homer hitting 8th.

.900 OPS in his last week or so I believe.

RC

September 4th, 2012
5:12 pm

I’d debate it being respectable and him being able to go 5 innings, but I do get your point… I’m sure that someone in AAA who wasn’t on the 40 man could’ve done that though.

Oh, no doubt. I’d say that at the worst Delgado and Teheran would be called upon before JJ to spot-start….which is why I said if “three” of your rotation members got food poisoning :) Maybe the team shouldn’t allow more than 2 teammates to have dinner together…just in case.

Heisenberg

September 4th, 2012
5:12 pm

Uggla was hitting in a run producing spot and earned his demotion to 8th and has now earned his new demotion. But seeing Bourn’s stats in the blog, maybe Bourn should be in the run producing spot. Then maybe consider Uggla with all those walks for the leadoff role. (sarcasm)

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 4th, 2012
5:12 pm

JJ: :cry:

Well, you’ve likely got at least one more season of Hanson with the Braves, so better that he pitch well for them than not.

If he’s here (he’d better be in the ‘pen then), I’ll hope that he pitches well… just haven’t seen it for the last year.

bravesfan

September 4th, 2012
5:12 pm

I’d start Medlin in a hypothetical one game wild card game.

CB

September 4th, 2012
5:13 pm

We need to show TOBF the tear emoticon for when Greinke signs with the Dodgers.

RC

September 4th, 2012
5:13 pm

If he’s here (he’d better be in the ‘pen then), I’ll hope that he pitches well… just haven’t seen it for the last year.

I haven’t seen it either. But odds are strongly in favor of him being here, and if he’s here he’ll be in the rotation, at least to start out.

MFin04

September 4th, 2012
5:14 pm

The problem with the short leash theory with Hanson is that when he blows up, he blows up in a hurry. And he usually blows up in the first or in the 5th/6th inning when he nears the 100 pitch mark.

David O'Brien

September 4th, 2012
5:14 pm

DOB – Is Heap available and just not in there because of the LH Pomeranz?

It was rather painful watching Ross bat yesterday — Jimmy

Fredi said he wanted to wait another day for McCann, that he should be in lineup. Don’t know how much the LH pitcher played into decision, but he said it was about the shoulder. Also, I asked about Ross’s side and Fredi said Ross told him it’s doing better and he’s good to go.

Lew

September 4th, 2012
5:14 pm

RC is correct – on several points.

David O'Brien

September 4th, 2012
5:14 pm

Braves have no plans to bring Jurrjens back to majors this year.

Brava

September 4th, 2012
5:14 pm

So true, cricket. I’ve seen comments like that quite often.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 4th, 2012
5:14 pm

We need to show TOBF the tear emoticon for when Greinke signs with the Dodgers.

:lol: Not happening…. too big a market. He wants to come to Atlanta…. He’ll be here (I hope).

Horner's Corner

September 4th, 2012
5:14 pm

Hey Dave,

When did the Official Scorer finally change Martin’s 1st inning At Bat from an E3 to a hit? I was at yesterday’s game and I thought not giving Prado a single (prior to the errors) was one of the worst scoring decisions I’d ever seen. When I left The Ted, the scoreboard still showed the Braves with 4 hits for the day. Thanks.

David O'Brien

September 4th, 2012
5:15 pm

Also, asked Fredi about Teheran and Delgado, and there are no plans to have them start rest of season. However, either could spot-start a game if needed, or come in to pitch long relief if they lose a starter to a rain delay, etc.

stizz

September 4th, 2012
5:16 pm

No reason to cut him. You are going to be paying him anyway, and if 3 pitchers in your starting rotation all get food poisoning or something, he’s at least a warm body on your 40-man roster who can probably throw 5 innings of respectable major league baseball for you in a pinch.”

Thinking JJ can give you 5 quality innings is like thinking Hanson can give you 5 quality innings. I’m just happy Delgado will be ready to go tonight for the inevitable.

PDOG

September 4th, 2012
5:16 pm

DOB What is going to be Tehrans role for the rest of the year? I would like to see him get a shot as a late innings guy and just concentrate on throwing gas. As for Uggla two weeks ago I said he should be traded and got roasted on here. Bloggers are a weird bunch.

MFin04

September 4th, 2012
5:16 pm

“Only now, in past two weeks, has that been presented”

So much for the theory that DOB doesn’t ask the tough questions or present the truth. You tell ‘em DOB. Glad you aren’t buying the BS. Actually makes me really glad to be part of this blog with a writer who actually isn’t caving to the company line.

cricket

September 4th, 2012
5:17 pm

I’d start Medlin in real wild card game

Brava

September 4th, 2012
5:18 pm

Thank you for your honesty about Medlen, DOB. I’ve been saying the same, that was no plan, but taking some flack about it from a few around here.

Heisenberg

September 4th, 2012
5:19 pm

DOB, should that read “Braves have no plans to bring JJJ back ever” ?

Brava

September 4th, 2012
5:19 pm

there was no plan, sheesh.

Ralph

September 4th, 2012
5:21 pm

Rockies starting pitcher isexactly the type to shut the braves down, 1-8 with an 5.13 era is our poison, maybe with Fruti finally getting the line-up right that won’t happen.

John Leonard

September 4th, 2012
5:21 pm

Yea,meds is pitching great,but a lot of us new he would do well,he K’D three times.If he wants to stay in the rotation,he better pick it up with the lumber.

Jay Dubu

September 4th, 2012
5:21 pm

With the callups to the majors done, it looks like Jair Jurrjens’ Braves career has come to an end.

Hopefully, he will work hard over the winter to get back to where he was, and I’m sure some team will give him a shot.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 4th, 2012
5:21 pm

However, either could spot-start a game if needed

Can’t they just let Delgado/Teheran “spot start” Hanson’s last 4?

or come in to pitch long relief if they lose a starter to a rain delay, etc.

etc= Hanson’s sukkage, Hanson’s sukkage, and more Hanson sukkage :)

Brava

September 4th, 2012
5:22 pm

The problem with the short leash theory with Hanson is that when he blows up, he blows up in a hurry. And he usually blows up in the first or in the 5th/6th inning when he nears the 100 pitch mark.

True, if I were Fredi, I’d have someone warming up from the beginning of the game. He’s got enough arms in there now. :)

Wait, if I were Fredi, Hanson wouldn’t be pitching tonight.

VaBravesFan

September 4th, 2012
5:22 pm

Trading Uggla would be very hard.

TheOnlyBravesFan

September 4th, 2012
5:24 pm

Is Hanson in the doghouse? Need to go to a certain fiery place? ;)

Brava

September 4th, 2012
5:25 pm

Also, asked Fredi about Teheran and Delgado, and there are no plans to have them start rest of season. However, either could spot-start a game if needed, or come in to pitch long relief if they lose a starter to a rain delay, etc.

Well, it’s not like he’s going to say, “If Hanson pitches like crap tonight, I’m going to put one of them in the rotation”. Looking at what happened with Uggla, I’d be willing to bet this is Hanson’s last start if he stinks it up tonight.

Add your comment