1:09 pm September 3, 2012, by David O'Brien
September 3rd, 20123:52 pm
Great game, KRIS!!!!!
I wanted to be funny about it…@Jeffrey d…..failed ok….the only thing in post-haste was a thought that I was not giving the language it’s due respect—sorry and I stand corrected sir.
Wow, that ball was Maddux-esque.
beautiful pitch to end it.
you rock Kris Medlen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Impressive, impressive performance
Absolutely no question who the ace of the staff is.
Medlen gets 2nd complete game in past 4 starts, now leads Braves in that category. Braves win 18th straight start by Medlen, extending franchise record.
And he got 2 K’s in last inning to push career-high total to 12 strikeouts, giving him 21 with no walks in past two starts.
Is this Maddux or Medlen? I can’t tell the difference…
September 3rd, 20123:53 pm
WTFREDI???, Derek Lowe isn’t losing games for the Indians anymore. They did what the Braves should have done and let him go. He latched on with the Yankees, and I’m not sure what he’s doing now. As far as benching Uggla, it was long past due. If I performed at my job the way he’s performed the last five months, I’d be in the unemployment line, not sitting in the break room.
Medlen with 11 K’s and zero walks! He had only one three ball count all game!
maybe he meant ándale, Jeffrey
Medlen is outstanding. Two in a row works for me. It is nice to have a two game winning streak heading into a Tommy Hanson start because he will halt any momentum the Braves have.
Nice job Meds…..you’ve become a great one relatively fast.
September 3rd, 20123:54 pm
Good win. BELIEVE IN THE MEDS.
Flat-bill kid is pitching like a madman. Or poor man’s Mad(dux) man?
Hugo Z Hackenbush
I really don’t get it. I’ll occasionally get on the in-game blog and make a few comments, win or lose. It doesn’t matter. But when the Braves get ahead early and go on to win, the whiny bitches vanish like Claude Rains. What kind of fans are they, anyway?
September 3rd, 20123:55 pm
Chip said it best, “Wow”. Consign.
hey did what the Braves should have done and let him go.htown
why in the world would they let him go and pay the entire 15mil when they could trade him and only pay 10m??
September 3rd, 20123:56 pm
@Nolieee…yes…but I saw no point ‘correcting’ when being corrected….thanks for your help.
What has Uggla shown outside of a two month stretch last season that indicates he will be the power hitting, run-producing presence in the cleanup spot over the next three years? Even if the Braves have to eat, say, $10 million, the 3 million that becomes available each year for the next three is significant, especially when Heyward and Medlen hit arbitration. It’s a ton of money, I agree, but $15 million is $15 miilion, and currently it is buying the Braves a .204 pinch-hitter.
the Rox took their Meds, but hated the taste
September 3rd, 20123:57 pm
FREDI let him get his CG. WTG FREDI.
September 3rd, 20123:59 pm
Medlen has officially arrived.
The thing about both he and Beachy is they go after you without hesitation. Beachy seemed to let a walk or bloop hit bother him a bit last year–not so this year. He would plow right on through.
THAT is the difference between these two guys and a guy like Hanson, who starts playing chess inside his head every time there is a hiccup in the 4th or 5th.
If Beachy comes back to form next year, we may then have two top of the rotation starters who, without impressing the radar gun, do nevertheless come after you relentlessly.
Yes, George, Fredi made the right call letting Meds get his CG.
Good game for Georgie, as well today.
September 3rd, 20124:01 pm
Meds is not only the best starter on the Braves right nbow…..he might be the best starting pitcher in the ML right now……and Gonzalez wanted to keep him in the pen…and even return him to the pen when Hanson returned……thank goodness a starter went down and he had to keep him in the rotation. He should be the starter in the play in wild card game if and when the Braves make it as one of those two teams.
Bobby probably would have Uggla still in the lineup and the bullpen would’ve pitched the last two or three innings. I’m not saying Fredi is better han Bobby, but its nice to see a different approach.
September 3rd, 20124:02 pm
DOB – I have a question I would like for you to ask Fredi, if you dare! Question: How does it feel to know that you cost Kris Medlen a certain Cy Young award? Anyone agree?
Ho-hum another Braves(Medlen)win. What else is new?
Nice win. Glad to see a little luck go our way today.
We got a Monday win Meds should pitch every Monday game
Precisely right. There is no doubt the Braves would have to eat 70% of his contract if not more, but it may be the best course of action to at least recover 10 mil over the next 3 years and put it towards another bat.
Still a little dumbfounded why it took so long. But Fredi won some bonus points with me (for whatever that’s worth – but since I’m one most vocal about wanting him gone…..), with this Dan Uggla thing.
Uggla was HIS guy in Florida. He was his guy that had his back in that whole Hanley Ramirez fiasco (also one of the last times that Fredi publicly had a backbone with his players imo).
As for Dan Uggla himself? I hope he figures it out. Either in a Braves uniform or somewhere. Seems like one of the good guys in MLB. I like his hustle and I like that he doesn’t make excuses. Hard to not root for him.
That being said, he had to be taken out of the everyday lineup. He was flat out killing this lineup.
So I want to commend Fredi (or Wren if it came from upstairs)… for NOT compounding Dan’s bad contract, with another bad decision…… continuing to play him BECAUSE of the contract.
The money is guaranteed either way. Might as well play the best players. Especially down the stretch.
Now on to Medlen. I realize he pitched a couple of innings when he “came back” last year. But why is this guy NOT getting any national pub for “comeback player of the year”?
As for how they “handled” him this year. I do honestly believe that had he been in the rotation from the get go, he would have been this good. But I also believe that we’d have a mini-Strasburg situation on our hands. So I’m glad he’s NOW available for the stretch run. Gonna need him.
Best pitcher in baseball right now with the stretch he’s pitching. Period. End of discussion. Command is Maddux like. Greg would be proud.
So to those griping that Medlen should have been in rotation all along…. Be careful. Because he’d likely be done for year real soon had he been.
To those that scoffed that Medlen was better served in the rotation and belonged in the bullpen?
Told yeah. He’s been the better PITCHER (not thrower, but PITCHER) than Hanson since they both started the 2009 season in AAA. Which is why Medlen got called up first.
Only difference is Hanson had all the hype and hasn’t missed a year due to surgery.
Wouldn’t be surprised to see Hanson traded or himself in the bullpen next year.
September 3rd, 20124:03 pm
Kris Medlen a certain Cy Young award? …Ralph
certain huh? hmmmm
And like clockwork…. Ralph chimes in. Priceless.
September 3rd, 20124:04 pm
Tough way to lose the scoreless iniing streak, he could of challenged Mad Dog next time out.
dream on guys, about them eating Dan’s contract.
B Mac will deal with his injury in the offseason, and come back in the best shape of his career next year. Nothing like a bad season to put pressure on a player to make some changes / adjustments to their approach.
And Mac will be playing for a contract next year to boot.
September 3rd, 20124:05 pm
the old N8 is back
37 1/3 innings without an Earned run. 0.54 ERA in 7 starts, with 50 K’s and 5 BB. 7 IP or more in 5 straight, with 2 complete games.
About as dominant as a pitcher can be.
September 3rd, 20124:06 pm
I think we all ought to lay off Fredi for a bit.
He made some questionable in game decisions earlier in the year, but, now that his job is officially on the line, his approach has been much more assertive.
And his quotes about Uggla were not exactly bland and inoffensive. He told it like it is. That cannot be easy for a manager who has a history with a player spanning more than one team.
Nice to win on a Monday, too!
maybe those of us who thought him more valuable in the pen made a booboo…..
September 3rd, 20124:07 pm
Ralph, for once, in fairness to Fredi G., I think he made the right call with Medlen at the start of the season because how much time Medlen missed. But Medlen has certainly earned a spot in the top of the rotation from here on.
2013: Hudson (if the Braves pick up his option), Medlen, Beachy, Minor, Hanson/Tehran/Delgado.
September 3rd, 20124:08 pm
I’d bet we have to borrow Colorado’s “buddy system” by replacing Hanson with Delgado.
Nope nolie. Not gonna spar with Ralph. No point. Unless you meant the long-winded part.
I just find it amusing that the exact minute that I’m hitting “submit comment” on a post being thankful Medlen is available NOW (because they didn’t use him in rotation early in year), that somebody wants to gripe about Fredi costing him a Cy Young. Too funny.
Maybe, they just gave him the next 3 Cy Young awards, by not blowing out his elbow one year removed from TJ surgery?
Nobody ever wants to think that way. That’s why the comment was priceless.
don’t count too much on Beachy in ‘13
Semper Fi Braves Fan
September 3rd, 20124:09 pm
I have been a vocal supporter of benching Uggla, and even sending him to the minors. With that being said I am not sold that he isn’t a salvageable, right handed hitter with power. Something that oddly enough is hard to find it seems.
While with Florida and even in stretches this year and last we have seen what he is capable of doing. He needs to simply put in the work, fix the holes in his swing, and then earn his way back into the line up.
Outside of all that… Fredi has already started suggesting his job is in jeopardy, and this thought made me smile.
yeah the long winded part
Before Uggla’s demotion and Fredi’s honest appraisal, I would have said there was 0% of Uggla being moved before 2014. Now, I’m not so sure. I still don’t think it’s likely, but someone might think he needs a change of scenery and would be willing to take on some of that $.
war daddy lightfoot
Believe my old buddy JoeBrave had it pegged just right…He warned us back when Uggla was traded for,that this would happen and now look at the production from this popeyemutant! What a piece of crap this guy is!
Medlen’s character shown in the post-game interview that the Rockies broadcast did. Medlen was asked about the error that ended his consecutive scoreless innings streak (with an unearned run) and Medlen answered, “Yeah the guy’s busting his tail to get you the out — you can’t fault him for that!”
That’s Kris Medlen!
Meds flat getting it done. He’s the only rotation guy that I look forward to seeing pitch.
September 3rd, 20124:10 pm
Congrats to K Medlin. D. Uggla I’m hoping you get your swing back an appreciate your work ethic and team play (don’t listen to blogging fools), and noticed that Constanza was on base all day and had three steals? Play him!
What a difference two games make.
The Braves are great — they are not BUMBS anymore. Two 4 da Good Guys.
Braves 4 Life.
not so sure they could send Uggly to the minors, he would need to still have options left
September 3rd, 20124:11 pm
Medlen has been a season saver. Where wood we be witout him.
So Chip says in the wrap up “Braves continue to pound Rockies pitching today.” HuH? 4 hits?!
Tom Hart on the field to Medlin, ” Did you expect to get 12 Ks today?” To which Meds answered “of course not!”
Tom Hart also says, “it was easy” talking about Meds performance. Medlen said, ” it wasn’t easy.”
We are in the new age of truth with the Braves. Fredi benches Uggla so the broadcast team should start being truthful as well.
Joe Simpson added the final straw saying Hanson hasn’t been hit that hard, just bad luck. Gimme a break!
September 3rd, 20124:12 pm
Now I will say this nolie, if our rotation was “solid” and healthy (meaning Hanson and JJJ were the pitchers they were the first half of last year?)…..
then sure. Medlen probably better served in bullpen and letting Delgado and Teheran start in AAA and build innings.
But as far as pure stuff? I just loved how Medlen pitched when he was in the rotation before. No doubt in my mind that he consistently wins 12-15 games a year for rest of his career if healthy. He just knows how to pitch and can execute his game plan.
Hanson is a thrower. And even as he’s tried to “pitch” more to save his shoulder…. his command isn’t good enough to pitch in the upper 80’s and lower 90’s. Hanson needs his 94-96 fastball to pitch with his command.
Thus the reason I think Tommy Hanson is better served in the bullpen. On this team anyhow.
I think he’s better served as a trade chip. But even then. Wouldn’t surprise me if another team traded for him and instantly put him in the pen or tried to make a closer out of him. Hard to say.
Uggla is not the only one that has been killing this lineup, Blind/Mac shares the blame equally, There is no way they should pick up the option on him unless he agrees to a pay cut .
Brave New World
David O’Brien September 3rd, 2012 3:54 pm Flat-bill kid is pitching like a madman. Or poor man’s Mad(dux) man?
DOB: I’d say Maddux was a rich man’s Medlen – and that would be just fine.
September 3rd, 20124:13 pm
keeps pitching like this and Meds will be a rich man too
September 3rd, 20124:14 pm
I guess the Nats arent gonna lose another game this year after the 5 game losing streak. But i like the Braves chances with the bench being deep. That just might be enough if BMac and Uggla can get it goin.
In other news:
Outrighted To Triple-A: Mark Hamburger
By Zach Links [September 3 at 1:09pm CST]
Today’s outright assignments..
•Astros right-hander Mark Hamburger cleared waivers and has been outrighted to Triple-A Oklahoma City, tweets Brian McTaggart of MLB.com. Houston acquired the 25-year-old after he was waived by the Padres in July. In six minor league seasons, Hamburger owns a 4.03 ERA with 8.0 K/9 and 3.4 BB/9.
When asked about the move, management was qouted as saying, “We had no Beef with him.”
Hanson in the pen is pretty scary IMO
The only problem I had with the “Medlen needs to stay in the pen” crowd was the smug and strident way some had of expressing that opinion. Hope they learned something from this experience.
September 3rd, 20124:15 pm
Beachy is progressing nicely so far. And is young.
I think he could very well be a second half contributor next season.
Its too early in Kris’ career but to date the Maddux comparisons are not far off. But lets not get too excited just yet.
Remember that John Thompson was supposed to be our poor man’s version of Mad Dog when he left for the Cubs in 04 & he was basically a journeyman pitcher who did have one good yr and one poor yr for us.
I am sure Kris will be better than John Thompson. (I hope).
You know what people forget about Mike Hampton. He actually did have 2 decent yrs for us when he was healthy the first 2 yrs they had him.
Fredi’s remark about maybe he might not be around could be very telling. Wonder if Wren didn’t have a similar (and tough) conversation with Fredi about playing to win vs. extreme loyalty to Uggla. I like Uggla, but sitting him is the right decision. Reed Johnson acquisition may be more valuable than we knew at the time. GO BRAVES!
September 3rd, 20124:17 pm
“Hanson in the pen is pretty scary IMO”
Not somebody else’s pen nolie. Hopefully a team in the NL East.
perhaps second half to some extent. 18 months is usually thought of as when they get back close to what they were
September 3rd, 20124:18 pm
If I thought for one minute that Fruti was smart enough to start the season with Medlen in the pen to save his arm I would not have made the comment about the Cy Young, but get real folks, he isn’t that smart.
September 3rd, 20124:19 pm
maybe it wasn’t Fredi’s decision?
September 3rd, 20124:20 pm
Boy, if Chipper and Medlen ever start regressing to the mean, people are going to start jumping off bridges.
September 3rd, 2012
keeps pitching like this and Meds will be a rich man too”
And deservedly so
You hit it on the head, Hansonmismamth
September 3rd, 20124:21 pm
Chipper is about at his mean
September 3rd, 20124:22 pm
Hanson in the pen is pretty scary IMO”
He wouldn’t pitch unless we’re taking a team behind the woodshed or if the beating were on us. The Braves might have to make a Barry Zito decision on the guy when it comes to the postseason though.
Leave it to “Chuck” to cover the Hamburger story…
September 3rd, 20124:23 pm
Are you new here? People on here have been jumping off bridges since leadoff baserunners have been invented.
Nolie, your fave, Gearrin is coming back!
IPad spell shocker…sorry.
Hanson is a thrower. Medlen is a pitcher. One gets in a jam and falls apart. One gets in a jam, bears down and gets out of it. One deserves to be in the rotation. One wouldn’t be in the rotation if he weren’t 6′6″ and used to have a 95 mph fastball…….USED TO HAVE.
September 3rd, 20124:24 pm
Braves are 26-10 in games with Constanza in starting lineup. And there are still people who want to send Uggla out there. Amazing.
There are few proffessional athletes who have the mindset composure that Kris Medlen has and that goes for any of the 4 major sports.
The guy is a winner in a nutshell.
Put the mental composure of Kris in an athlete on your team and you have a keeper.
If he were an NFL player he would be a Super Bowl winning QB assuming health and goodpeople around him. He would be a point guard in the NBA or a goalie on a Stanley Cup winning team.
Give him the ball & let him work.
I tend to think it was more Wren’s decision Ralph. Either way, whoever’s decision it was, considering Medlen’s low innings total before the surgery… it was the right move.
And I’m one of the guys that ABSOLUTELY believed that Medlen would be one of our better pitchers in the rotation. His coming back late last year, was the main reason I was on my high horse saying “sell high” on Jurrjens.
I’m a fan of Medlen. Big time. And NOT a fan of Fredi…. at all.
But if Medlen is in rotation to start year, we’re watching the Braves talk about shutting him down (or being stupid enough to keep throwing him out there) in the middle of a fantastic season.
So whether intentional or not…. the decision (for whatever reason – and by whoever made it) to have him in pen to start the year….. is one of the reasons we are getting to watch him domintate for the pennant race stretch run.
Hard to complain about that from my angle. And I’m known as N8 the Hate around these parts. So good luck if you want to call me a homer or an optimist.
September 3rd, 20124:25 pm
Wait……………… all you Dan U haters. He is having a bad year. Jason Heyward had a bad year last year and all you haters wanted to get rid of him last year. Danny is jut having a bad season and no matter how much you pay a guy he is HUMAN. So he will come around just watch …….. then all you haters will then kissing his feet.
September 3rd, 20124:26 pm
The Rockies have some good hitters on that team and I’m afraid they are going to light Hanson up tomorrow. Hope Fredi has him on a short leash.
“Chipper is about at his mean”
I was going to say the same thing. and considering how Hanson, Sheets, Huddy and even Maholm’s last start went? If Medlen regressed to the mean, he’d STILL be our best pitcher.
September 3rd, 20124:27 pm
I think Medlen might slowly be converting all the haters on the blog. What a freakin’ game that was. Wow.
Braves have recalled Teheran and Gearrin from Triple-A. That’s probably it for call-ups.
Reed Johnson is going to be valuable but we need the good Malholm back and he can do it.
If Hudson and PM get it back we will be in the post season. And please guys, get Minor a few runs. He did let that lead get away on Friday.
I hope that Kimbrell is able to shake off that GW HR Friday, he is great from April to August. Hope is is the good Kimbrell in September.
Gonna have to package Uggla Hanson and Teheran to get rid of that albatross contract of Uggla’s! then I bet Wren does something DUMBER than hell by giing Mac a 72 mill contract! He never fails to be the IDIOT!
September 3rd, 20124:28 pm
Let me correct you Edward. Save one 32 game hitting streak (or whatever the hell it was)…. Dan Uggla has had two absolutely horrible seasons in Atlanta. Like close to the worst hitter in the NL “bad”.
it’s not a slump. It’s not a bad season. It’s a massive drop off in ability to be productive.
Heyward had injury issues and is 22 years old. And making the league minimum.
Dan Uggla was traded for and then extened to be the RH power hitting savior in our lineup.
I hope you see the difference.
Joe Simpson says Hanson hasn’t been hit all that hard. Right. And New Orleans barely got touched by Hurricane Katrina.
September 3rd, 20124:29 pm
He [Wren] never fails to be the IDIOT!
Oh someone hasn’t failed to be the idiot.
September 3rd, 20124:30 pm
Nolie, uggly would have to consent to the minors assignment since he has spent at least 5 years in pro ball. Just to clarify the options comment.
Ironically enough Kris Medlen has saved both the bullpen in the first half of the season and the starters in the 2nd half of the season.
Guy is the major reason Venters, EOF, and Kimbrel have such low inning totals this year and is also the reason the Braves are still in contention for the wild card due to his starting pitching as well.
September 3rd, 20124:32 pm
Considering how little Medlen has started, I’m not sure “the mean” is very…meaningful.
September 3rd, 20124:34 pm
Save one 32 game hitting streak (or whatever the hell it was)……N8
oh baloney, he had three good months last year (955, 1076, 803 OPS-July, Aug,Sept) and two good months to start this season. (784 and 874)
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