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Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
September 1st, 2012
7:32 pm
What Did I Miss, I have been out In The Sticks of NE Arkansas All Day Fishing
Can Anyone Fill Me In?
All I know is that the Braves Once again wet the bed in another Sept game against the Phillies
What happened? Did Huddy look like ####!
Philly Phanatic
September 1st, 2012
7:34 pm
Stop your belly aching. If Howard and Utley were healthy all year and Halladay didn’t miss 2 months and the new best catcher (pudgey wudgey isn’t top 5) Ruiz played all year these games would be meaningless as the Phillies have owned the Braves with the exception of beating their second string this year and the Braves would be what’re the Phillies are and well you guys are real juggernauts in September. If the Phil’s fall out of contention ( ‘07 7 out with 17 to play but nobody between them and Muts. Phillies basically can’t stand a loss. What’s disconcerting without getting into details is a month ago he was auditioning guys. One game in particular up 4-1against Brewers and instead of bringing in Papplebon for 4 out save he leaves one of the new phucks in and he loads bases and Hart hits grand slam to beat them 5-4. Be happy you’re in the hunt. Pirates will wilt, Dodgers have no pitching, and well you’re still in the drivers seat but for those who like me get too involved ( it was actually enjoyable when it didn’t matter if the Phil’s won) Now they put me back in the pizza oven. If they drop 2 in a row from here on in they’re done. If you blow it this year again there’ll be an job opening in the Atlanta area.
If you blow it you all may think back to the shot heard round the world by our 3rd string catcher. You still do have the best closer from April – August 30th.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
September 1st, 2012
7:34 pm
Brava
“Looks like a sweep is in the offing. I highly doubt the Braves get to Hamels tomorrow.”
What Did I Miss?
The A Bomb
September 1st, 2012
7:35 pm
I think DOB posted something similar about percentages last year at this time. People blamed him.
Phooey.
Blame is on the culture created here by the manager. And allowed to occur by the GM. They’re starting to get flashbacks and Gonzalez has no chance of pulling these guys out of it.
Maybe they’ll hang on. Who knows. But it will be because of the fading veteran leadership — not the overmatched field commander. Nice guy — brutal strategist and motivator. Awful.
George_George
September 1st, 2012
7:36 pm
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
September 1st, 2012
7:34 pm
Not a heck of a lot.
The A Bomb
September 1st, 2012
7:36 pm
Philly Phanatic — IF you didn’t eat so much cheese wiz, you might not have HIGH CHOLESTEROL and SLEEP APNEA.
Get lost and wait for the next snowstorm.
MVPrado14
September 1st, 2012
7:36 pm
At this point, I think it would be best for the Braves to simply lose 10-12 in a row and get it over with. No sense dragging it out to the last weekend like last year.
Go Cards
Go Pirates
Go Dodgers
ray k
September 1st, 2012
7:37 pm
Could we sign the imaginary guy sitting in Clint Eastwood’s empty chair to play 2nd base?
Capt.Mudd
September 1st, 2012
7:40 pm
You know I didn’t read that article @A-Ville Ranger; I do recall the headline and thinking…”I can’t read that because it’s premature.” Now I am thinking, “Mr. Wren must have a screw loose.”
vitriol spewer (phil)
September 1st, 2012
7:40 pm
Uggly IS the imaginary guy….
Might as well be.
VaBravesFan
September 1st, 2012
7:40 pm
I say we have around 50% chance of making the playoffs. Pirates and Dodgers will be in the thick of things rest of the way. I don’t care what anyone says, Its hard to be positive.
Lost series to Dodgers, Lost series to Nats, Split with the Giants, Lost series to Padre’s, and now have lost series to the Phillies. Clearly the team is falling apart at the finish once again. We have 29 games left and if this keeps up we’ll find ourselves in 4th place for the wild card.
Capt.Mudd
September 1st, 2012
7:42 pm
Hey there @The A Bomb; Is it not amazing we can’t seem to hit certain pitchers we have seen many time before? Adjustments folks???
MVPrado14
September 1st, 2012
7:43 pm
“We have 29 games left and if this keeps up we’ll find ourselves in 4th place for the wild card.”
I’m not so sure why this is something to be worried about anymore. The team is showing its true colors. This is exactly what we would see in the one-game playoff so why bother?
Kris
September 1st, 2012
7:45 pm
Well at least the collapse this year will be just a regular one, as opposed to the epic variety.
vitriol spewer (phil)
September 1st, 2012
7:46 pm
At least we know my Dawgs will win it all this year……
Lol
Capt.Mudd
September 1st, 2012
7:49 pm
I’m all for SEC teams getting their due…nationally ranked, what? No. 9…..Dawgs looked more like a 19th ranked squad today…..how ’bout those Bulls from Buffalo?
Busch Leaguer
September 1st, 2012
7:50 pm
Fredi,
There is still time to salvage the season. Walk into Frank Wren’s office tomorrow and tell him you are naming Prado your starting 2nd baseman ,Ross will catch 6 games a week ,Boscan will be his backup. McCann will assume Hinskie’s job as left handed pinch hitter.Your other option is to do nothing go and keep running Uggla and McCann out there every day and watch your playoff chances slip away again this year.And Wren will turn you into a 3rd base coach in another MLB organization.might be the best thing for your long term health.
MVPrado14
September 1st, 2012
7:50 pm
I’m just glad the NFL kicks off Wednesday night and I can see if my G-Men can win back-to-back. Now, there’s a team that knows how to show up when it matters most.
64 year Ct. Braves fan
September 1st, 2012
7:52 pm
Braves will choke again. Phillies playing with a JV team. Bench Uggla and McCann for the rest of the year.
Fols
September 1st, 2012
7:53 pm
Not a giants fan, but true, they show up when the games matter. Exact opposite of the Braves.
Chipper is really gonna look back at all these regular season wins and realize how little they accomplished outside of those games. Terrible.
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 1st, 2012
7:53 pm
Huddy with a less than stellar performance today… he sure didn’t fool anyone
help
September 1st, 2012
7:53 pm
I was at the Braves game today and after the game ended a Phillies player came out to visit family. I was able to get an autograph however I have no idea who he is. I got him to autograph the program. Does anyone know of a way to identify the signature? I woul greatly appreciate it.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
September 1st, 2012
7:54 pm
Same team, same time of the year, same result…….
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
September 1st, 2012
7:56 pm
So to the 25 man roster……..if the same results as last September, Fredi is gone.
Kris
September 1st, 2012
7:58 pm
It’s pretty obvious that Freddi doesn’t like making decisions. He demonstrates time and time again that he’s going to sit back and hope everything works itself out for him so he doesn’t have to make a hard decision. The whole 6 man rotation nonsense – that’s a perfect example. Everyone knew it was Hanson as the odd man out and who didn’t deserve a spot in the rotation, but Freddi couldn’t make a hard decision so he went with the 6 man rotation and got lucky that things worked themselves out. Freddi has got to go. I know you can’t fault Freddi for Kimbrel blowing it on Friday or pin all the blame on him, but he is not a leader or a decision maker. The guy is either paralyzed with self-doubt or analysis-paralysis – I think it’s the former.
Aubrey
September 1st, 2012
7:58 pm
The Collapse has begun….Go Falcons.
64 year Ct. Braves fan
September 1st, 2012
8:00 pm
I agree with Ryan.
Fols
September 1st, 2012
8:00 pm
I know people are eager to ditch Fredi at the end of the year, but that’s not the way to think just yet.
If we’re firing him it means we didn’t make it and we are watching a meaningless end to the Chipper era. Very sad if you ask me. I’ll worry about Fredi after that year……but this season is on McCann and Uggla never getting it going. Whole year wasted by two guys we were counting on. Fredi was counting on them, the organization was counting on them….and they failed to help.
manolo
September 1st, 2012
8:00 pm
Leadership is driven by influence and among other things respect for the experience and winning tradition of the leader. These are clear traits that Fredi does not have, and why he fails to inpact the team performance.
Kris
September 1st, 2012
8:00 pm
Help…that wasn’t a Phillies player that signed your program – it was a bat boy and his name is ‘Who Cares’
help
September 1st, 2012
8:03 pm
Kris um no it wasant sir you sir are an idiot.
Kris
September 1st, 2012
8:06 pm
Help – I’m not the one asking people on the blog how to identify a signature they can’t see and don’t care about. Why don’t you go on a Philly blog and ask someone who cares? Or better yet figure it out on your own
The A Bomb
September 1st, 2012
8:10 pm
Sorry Capt — was out for awhile.
This is not anything more than motivation.
Players would run through a brick wall for Cox — despite the consistent “donkey” references around here.
Players will not run through anything for Gonzalez — not a donkey — more like a lost little lamb. Personally, probably a nice guy with good values. Game is way too fast for him. Needs too much control.
Busch Leaguer
September 1st, 2012
8:10 pm
Flash to the future September 2013 ,DOB interviewing Fredi . DOB do you think it is time to sit Uggla(2013 stats .155 batting average ,5HR and 22 RBI, 225K’s ) I’m going to keep running him out there he is bound to get hot and carry this team out of the cellar and into 4th place.
Kris
September 1st, 2012
8:12 pm
Busch League – that is so true. Sadly, as much as we want/need Uggla to go he’ll be on the roster and StrUGGLAin’ away with Freddi’s full support.
JC Brave
September 1st, 2012
8:13 pm
A week ago, according to projections, the Braves were on pace to win around 93-95 games.
Right now, I doubt they can win 90.
With 29 games remaining and the way these guys are playing, the best we can hope for is a 15-14 finish.
And that’s me being optimistic.
Kris
September 1st, 2012
8:17 pm
JC – 15-14 is very optimistic. With the way they have been playing I’d say closer to 10-19, which is about what they did last year. This team is in full-on collapse mode.
the truth...
September 1st, 2012
8:20 pm
great idea here…….in case you didn’t see it before
Busch Leaguer
September 1st, 2012
7:50 pm
Fredi,
There is still time to salvage the season. Walk into Frank Wren’s office tomorrow and tell him you are naming Prado your starting 2nd baseman ,Ross will catch 6 games a week ,Boscan will be his backup. McCann will assume Hinskie’s job as left handed pinch hitter.Your other option is to do nothing go and keep running Uggla and McCann out there every day and watch your playoff chances slip away again this year.And Wren will turn you into a 3rd base coach in another MLB organization.might be the best thing for your long term health.
usnavyvolfaninva
September 1st, 2012
8:21 pm
Yeah, I’m really looking forward to the UT-UGA game this year. Should be a good one.
Carroll Rogers
September 1st, 2012
8:22 pm
postgame quotes are up….it’s as if you guys were in Fredi’s office with us, when he said “enough is enough” with the tipping your cap stuff. have a look:
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/09/01/braves-postgame-quotes-after-saturdays-loss-to-phillies/
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 1st, 2012
8:23 pm
Braves will win 16 to 21 of the 29 remaining games (most likely 18) games down the stretch… Bank on it!
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
September 1st, 2012
8:23 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
“Huddy with a less than stellar performance today… he sure didn’t fool anyone”
Yes, He can”t be counted on to start that Stupid one game playoff for the WC. Good Teams can beat him because he is predictable because he has been around the league for so long
And If I’m not Mistaking Huddy doesn’t dominate in big games in Sept and October since he has been here????
nolie
September 1st, 2012
8:24 pm
the more they lose, the more it is gonna get into their heads.
Life’s a bitch, and then you die. …
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 1st, 2012
8:25 pm
Martin tipped his hat…. bad boy Martin
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 1st, 2012
8:26 pm
Yesterday we had a pretty good game offensively, but today was one of those games when you tip your hat.
Martin Prado. So true, Cliff Lee was good…. but we gotta get hitting again
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 1st, 2012
8:29 pm
And If I’m not Mistaking Huddy doesn’t dominate in big games in Sept and October since he has been here????
Not really sure, but I did check his career splits on BBRef…. Sept/Oct. is Hudson’s worst month in terms of ERA, oppo. avg/obp/slg/ops, and WHIP. He has pitched the most games for his career in May and Sept./Oct (both with 71 career starts)
The A Bomb
September 1st, 2012
8:30 pm
Thanks Carroll.
“I’m worried about our offense.”
ATTABOY GONZALEZ. No one will mistake you for Tony Robbins.
TRANSLATION:
Mindscrew Heyward.
Mindscrew Freeman.
Baker? Uggla?
What? Godson grounded?
Think THAT will get this team to the playoffs?
He’s feeling it to. Great. This is who we want leading our guys. Very unfortunate.
Teddy B
September 1st, 2012
8:31 pm
WTG Braves for wasting a roster spot PLUS MONEY on Lyle Overbay. Can’t believe they’re paying this guy to do anything even remotely related to baseball. He’s that bad. You should’ve heard the Pittsburgh sportscasters talking about his contract a couple years ago with the Pirates right after they signed him. They said Overbay probably hung up the phone after being told about his contract with the Pirates and said to his wife “I can’t believe they’re going to pay me five million dollars to play baseball in Pittsburgh! I sure fooled them!” It was a bad signing for the Pirates and its a bad signing for the Braves especially since he’s a couple years older and a couple years worse. Why does Wren covet all of these old washed up guys who don’t help the team win ANY games AT ALL?
I can think of too many examples of this: Derrick Lee, Troy Glaus, Overbay, Livian Hernandez, Batista, the list goes on and on. Every year we make this same mistake. Over and over.
Spending on these old guys who can’t play anymore is our biggest problem. I think Wren honestly believes if he pays these old men enough money they’ll suddenly find the fountain of youth and revert back into the player they used to be a decade ago and play well. This hasn’t worked out for us the way they’re doing it. Its the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. That is exactly what we’re doing here folks, every single season.
Its much better to call up some younger guys who can impact the game and let them sink or swim in the big leagues. We let our decent prospects who aren’t quite good enough to be superstars grow cobwebs in the minors for 10 years before calling them up and give them a couple chances and release them when they don’t do well. Its just the wrong way to do things. Please get rid of Wren and Fredi if the Braves melt down this year again and miss the playoffs. After signing Overbay the Braves are clearly making desperate moves and that scares me.
The A Bomb
September 1st, 2012
8:36 pm
A major league-quality skipper should absolutely know his ballclub way before Sept. 1 of ANY season.
What — was the first 5 months extended spring training?
Get this talented group a LEADER and see what happens.
nolie
September 1st, 2012
8:38 pm
bullcrap. Overbay hit .292 .367 .448 .815 in Arizona, and even a bit better the end of last season out there. Sure as hell can’t be any worse than Hinske and he is only costing them 170 thou or so
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 1st, 2012
8:40 pm
someone must not be checking the stats… Overbay hit .292/.367/.448/.815 with Arizona… he’s a bat to replace Hinske who has sukked all year. We need a lefty off the bench, hence Overbay was gotten. Great move imo, and he’ll be cheap.
MVPrado14
September 1st, 2012
8:40 pm
Speaking of Overbay, the front page says he’s looking forward to a “chance at postseason play”. The ironic thing is that he would have a much better chance if he were still on the Pirates.
The A Bomb
September 1st, 2012
8:43 pm
So now we have June Cleaver as our manager……
“Ward, I’m worried about the Beaver….”
“Carroll, I’m worried about our offense…..”
Yeesh.
VaBravesFan
September 1st, 2012
8:46 pm
Overbay is pretty good vs RHP
nolie
September 1st, 2012
8:48 pm
right Va, which is why we got him. might not do much, but he is cheap and likely will do better than Hinske would
mpimentel
September 1st, 2012
8:49 pm
I’m starting to worry…but always there’s a chance to improve, if the phil’s are playing good with bench guys, bring to the field this line up:
CF. Reed
RF. Constanza
LF. Hinskie
C. Ross
1b. Overbay
3b. Fransisco
2b. Pastor
SS. Janish
Mccan, chip,heyward and uggla need a break…the bench have to bat better unless they get 9 zeros…man this could become the biggest shame of MLB history, two colaps in a raw, it can be true!
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 1st, 2012
8:50 pm
Lyle Overbay vs. RHP .305/.383/.476/.859 Better than whatever crap line that Hinske has.
Lyle Overbay as a Pinch-hitter: .273/.304/.318/.623
Hitting .342/.457/.579/1.035 with 2 outs, and .286/.323/.393/.715 with 0 outs.
Hitting .294/.368/.353/.721 in high leverage situations…. .448/.484/.586/1.070 against finesse pitchers.
I’d post all his other great stats, but it’d be a long post…. but he has great numbers against fly-ball pitchers, ground ball pitchers. Great avg. when he hits line drives and fly balls. If he puts the ball in play, he has about a .330 batting avg. He has a .730/.711/1.135/1.846 avg. on balls hit to the OF. Good numbers when he pulls the ball or goes up the middle. He has gone the opposite way just 10 times, but has 5 hits.
So, any more doubts on Mr. Overbay?
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 1st, 2012
8:51 pm
might not do much, but he is cheap and likely will do better than Hinske would
You can take out the likely…. not hard to outperform Hinske for the last 2 year, unfortunately.
ACE
September 1st, 2012
8:53 pm
VJ said it was utter nonsense that we could tell anything abou tthe players body language but some of these guys sure look like they are in the tank. Coming to the plate with that 0-2 count in their mind.
DiamondbackMac
September 1st, 2012
8:57 pm
On a positive note, Bama is stomping Michigan.
ChattTownBrian
September 1st, 2012
8:58 pm
Braves are about to get reeeeeeeal hot.
ACE
September 1st, 2012
8:59 pm
last year having a big lead the team thought it was safe. No way to blow a lead that big. Maybe in a strange way having a smaller lead will get these guys to step it up. Though it hasn’t seemed so in the last few games.
VaBravesFan
September 1st, 2012
8:59 pm
Hinske should have gotten the boot along with Jack Wilson…
vitriol spewer (phil)
September 1st, 2012
9:00 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
September 1st, 2012
8:40 pm
someone must not be checking the stats… Overbay hit .292/.367/.448/.815 with Arizona… he’s a bat to replace Hinske who has sukked all year. We need a lefty off the bench, hence Overbay was gotten. Great move imo, and he’ll be cheap.
*********
how bout a damn lefty in the lineup?
ACE
September 1st, 2012
9:01 pm
Frank must have told Fredi he was concerned about the offense.
ACE
September 1st, 2012
9:02 pm
Can you smell that smell.
nolie
September 1st, 2012
9:02 pm
You can take out the likely…TOBF
I’ll leave it in, one can never know for sure in baseball. The one thing that Teddy did get right in that long post was that Lyle did stink in Pittsburgh in 2011. good gamble for the small money though for us
nolie
September 1st, 2012
9:05 pm
how bout a damn lefty in the lineup?…phil
not sure what that means in the context of discussing Overbay?
VaBravesFan
September 1st, 2012
9:05 pm
Never realized how solid Overbay has been over his career.
vitriol spewer (phil)
September 1st, 2012
9:06 pm
My doubts are about uggla and mac…..
You guys can have your bench boy Overbay. How does he help with those two?
Couch Tater
September 1st, 2012
9:07 pm
Diamondbac Mac – : )
The A Bomb
September 1st, 2012
9:07 pm
phil — with the new monicker “vitriol” it would probably be better if you limited your posts from 6 a.m.-12 noon so the Einsteins could have a word to discuss once the recorded episode of Star Trek concluded.
Wow. Vitriol. Wonder what some of those guys think.
vitriol spewer (phil)
September 1st, 2012
9:08 pm
Nolie – a lefty in the lineup who can hit something…..just frustrated as heck.
The A Bomb
September 1st, 2012
9:08 pm
All Overbay is — 1) a replacement for Hinske. 2) Someone to mindscrew Freeman (one of the young guys).
VaBravesFan
September 1st, 2012
9:08 pm
Overbay was the next Mark Grace/Sean Casey type 1st baseman.
From 2004-2006 (3 seasons) Averaged 158 Games 296/375/479/854 44 Doubles 18 HR
Couch Tater
September 1st, 2012
9:08 pm
Diamondbac k Mac – I can’t throw many k’s
ACE
September 1st, 2012
9:09 pm
A lot of fans were giving the braves a free bird today.
ACE
September 1st, 2012
9:11 pm
Give Fredi three steps and you’ll never see him no more.
DiamondbackMac
September 1st, 2012
9:11 pm
Couch Tater
Chipper Jones @RealCJ10
Don’t wanna talk @ bball. Sittin here watchin Bama bout to take Michigan out behind the shed! Damn, dem boys r good! Can’t mess with da SEC!
nolie
September 1st, 2012
9:11 pm
well we now have Baker to play once in a while instead of a lefty hitter. yeah its frustrating, I just refuse to allow it to get me all that upset. Life is too short
DiamondbackMac
September 1st, 2012
9:12 pm
Here comes another Bama TD.
nolie
September 1st, 2012
9:12 pm
how is he gonna mind screw Freeman?
ACE
September 1st, 2012
9:12 pm
So far this series has seemed like the last series from 2011
VaBravesFan
September 1st, 2012
9:12 pm
The moves Wren has made so far were the moves that I thought were needed to be made before the season. I said we needed to improve our bench depth. I thought picking up Hinske’s option was a mistake, figured we’d choose to go younger and more athletic instead of paying 1.5 million for Hinske…
The A Bomb
September 1st, 2012
9:13 pm
Don’t wanna talk @ bball.
You’d think a retiring player would love each and every day.
Very telling when the vet leader says something like that publicly.
DiamondbackMac
September 1st, 2012
9:13 pm
Oops
ACE
September 1st, 2012
9:14 pm
Maybe Saban can come give the guys a pep talk.
nolie
September 1st, 2012
9:14 pm
I thought Hinske coming back was a mistake too
DiamondbackMac
September 1st, 2012
9:14 pm
Only a FG.
ACE
September 1st, 2012
9:15 pm
Maybe Fredi should ban twitter like Paul Johnson
nolie
September 1st, 2012
9:17 pm
i think wren did not want to do a boston though and give the impression of wholesale panic-driven changes, and for the most part i think that was a smart approach.woulda made an exception in Hinske’s case though
DiamondbackMac
September 1st, 2012
9:17 pm
The A Bomb
Very telling when the vet leader says something like that publicly.
All it tells me is that like most of us he wants some down time to relax after a hard day at work.
vitriol spewer (phil)
September 1st, 2012
9:17 pm
We play like Harvey’s wall bangers. Not pretty when few walls actually get involved….
The A Bomb
September 1st, 2012
9:18 pm
Mac — then don’t Tweet it. Sends out negativity to a) teammates and b) fans.
VaBravesFan
September 1st, 2012
9:18 pm
Wonder how much Wren will work to keep some of the current bench players? To me bringing back David Ross and Reed Johnson are no brainers… Considering our soon-to-be situation in the OF, and McCann battling injuries and a possible decline. Even tho Jeff Baker hasn’t played a game for us he mashes LHP and can play 5 positions. I’d love to see this bench next season.
Ross, Janish, Francisco, Johnson, Baker. With Pastornicky being next in line at AAA.
nolie
September 1st, 2012
9:18 pm
it “tells” you what you already believe….
vitriol spewer (phil)
September 1st, 2012
9:19 pm
The A Bomb
September 1st, 2012
9:13 pm
Don’t wanna talk @ bball.
You’d think a retiring player would love each and every day.
Very telling when the vet leader says something like that publicly.
*************
nah. I don’t wanna talk shop either once it lets out. Politely telling twitterville to let it lie…
Busch Leaguer
September 1st, 2012
9:19 pm
Is there a mercy rule in college football Okie State 63 Savannah State 0 ,11:33 left in 3rd quarter. And guess who Savannah State plays next week? Florida State.
The A Bomb
September 1st, 2012
9:22 pm
Depends how you take it. If you’re that down or pissed off, no need to give anyone the idea you’re down, burned out etc….
But I guess it’s the new way to do things.
I’ll keep that in mind next time I visit the lavatory. Maybe an Instagram might be in order.
vitriol spewer (phil)
September 1st, 2012
9:23 pm
Hudson yucking it up with Medlen on sidelines at auburn, clemson game…..
No wonder he stunk today. Head not in OUR game.
Makes sense, right? No, it doesn’t….