Spoiler alert? Here come Halladay, Lee and Hamels
(Staff writer Carroll Rogers is filling in for David O’Brien today.)
Beware of the spoilers. The standings say the Braves have to feel pretty good about their schedule from
Doc is 0-1 with an 8.74 ERA in two starts vs. Braves this year
here on out. Of the last 31 games of the regular season, only six are against teams with winning records – three against Washington on Sept. 14-16 and three against Pittsburgh Oct. 1-3.
(The Nationals, by the way, have twice that number, with 12 games in their final 31 games against winning teams, including six more against St. Louis, three against Atlanta, and three against the Dodgers.)
But overall records can be deceiving. The Braves figured this out pretty well in San Diego after dropping two of three to the Padres to end their 10-game road trip. They scored only four runs in three games against a Padres team which is 10 games under .500 for the season but has now won nine out of its past 10.
(And after losing two of three to the Nationals, splitting four games with the Giants and losing two of three to the Padres, the Braves are a half-game behind where they were when they left for Washington, now 5 ½ games behind the Nationals.)
The Braves open a seven-game homestand with a weekend series against the Phillies, which features Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, and Cole Hamels. Boom, boom and boom. (The Braves will counter with Mike Minor, Tim Hudson and Paul Maholm, respectively.) The Phillies may be down as a team, but seeing those names back-to-back-to-back still carries a lot of weight and the Braves know it.
Lee was dominant in his last start vs. Washingtion
The Braves have played four series against the Phillies this season, and won three of them (they’re 9-3 overall), but they haven’t faced all three guns in one series: Halladay, Lee and Hamels. Somehow the Braves haven’t faced Lee all season after seeing him five times in 2011, when he went 2-2 with a 3.24 ERA against the Braves.
The last time the Braves faced Halladay, Lee and Hamels in one series it was July 8-10 of last season and they lost two out of three, a 3-2 loss in Halladay’s start, the Braves won against Lee 4-1, and lost to Hamels 14-1.
The Nationals just got swept by the Phillies last week, and that was with Kyle Kendrick, Halladay, and Lee pitching. Hamels wasn’t in order with the other two then, but he is now after being scratched from a Wednesday start with a stomach bug. So here the Braves get to face the guy who pitched a complete game shutout against them on Aug. 7, the last time Minor faced the Phillies.
Minor will try to continue his good work tonight, and for more info on pitching match-ups and the wacky start times of this series, click on series preview: (First pitch on Sunday is 5:05 p.m.).
While Halladay, Lee and Hamels have all had their ups and down this season, as has the entire Phillies teams, they seem to have found their groove of late.
Halladay has four quality starts in his last five outings. He is 4-1 with a 2.75 ERA since he last pitched against the Braves and lost July 29, allowing three runs in six innings of a 6-2 loss to Hudson.
Amazingly, Lee is 3-7 on the season but with a 3.67 ERA. He held the Nationals to one run in seven innings
Hamels pitched a shutout vs. Braves on Aug. 7
his last time out, and has allowed only six earned runs in 21 1/3 innings over three straight quality starts.
Hamels went 4-1 with a 1.86 ERA in five August starts, including two complete game shutouts (one against the Braves).
Oh, and coming behind the Phillies? Four games against the pushover Colorado Rockies, right? Wrong. The Rockies and their four-man rotation/hybrid piggyback pitchers setup have gone 16-12 in August entering tonight’s game against San Diego. They are assured of their first winning month since going 14-13 in June of 2011.
They’ve won eight of their past 11 games.
The Rockies were 12-20 with a 6.28 ERA in 65 games before going to the new pitching set-up and are 11-26 with a 5.61 ERA in 64 games since then went to it, according to the Denver Post.
But first thing’s first. And here’s DOB’s take on where the Braves’ mindset is as entering September.
Coming in September
Lyle Overbay is expected to join the Braves on Saturday, as was designated in his agreement when he signed, that they’d call him up Sept. 1. He’s hitting .273 (6-for-22) with three doubles and three RBIs in seven games with Triple-A Gwinnett.
Other additions, whether it be Saturday or after Gwinnett’s season ends on Monday – would be J.C. Boscan, as a third catcher, and outfielder Jose Constanza, as a speed guy. The Braves could call on Anthony Varvaro and/or Cory Gearrin to add to their bullpen. They also have some starting insurance with both Randall Delgado and Julio Teheran, though it’s not clear yet if they’ll be added to the roster.
Will also have to check on shortstop Jack Wilson’s progress and whether he’ll be ready to return from his finger injury when rosters expand Saturday. He’s played five games in Gwinnett in his most recent stint on the DL, going 3-for-16. And will find out more about what’s next for Andrelton Simmons, who is gearing up for a mid-September return in his comeback from a broken hand.
Rollins watch
It will be interesting to see if Jimmy Rollins is in the Phillies lineup tonight. Manager Charlie Manuel benched the veteran shortstop in Thursday’s game against the Mets after he didn’t hustle on a dropped pop-up. Rollins is one of the Phillies hottest hitters and did a good bit of damage against the Braves in their last trip to Philly (4-for-12 with a home run and two doubles). Manuel wouldn’t say when reporters asked him yesterday if he would play Rollins on Friday.
First pitch
Throwing out the ceremonial first pitch tonight at Turner Field will be Chance Veazey, the former infielder for the University of Georgia who was paralyzed from the waist down in a motor scooter accident in 2009. Veazey is a native of Tifton, who has developed a relationship with Braves hitting coach Greg Walker, who’s from Douglas, Ga.
“He’s a great friend and a class act,” Veazey said of Walker in a release from Georgia. “He has helped me experience being a part of a major league club first when he was in Chicago with the White Sox. I went up there and saw him and Gordon (Beckham) for a series with the Yankees and now I’ll get to do that with the Braves on Friday.”
Veazey is taking part in the first ever Game Ball Relay, a 24-hour relay that will deliver the game ball to Sanford Stadium for the Bulldogs’ season-opener against Buffalo, to raise money for the Shepherd Spinal Center where he was a patient in 2009.
Sunday night game
ESPN picked up the Braves game against the Nationals at Turner Field on Sunday, Sept. 16. It will now start at 8:05 p.m. rather than originally scheduled 1:35 p.m. The Braves have gone 1-2 in ESPN’s Sunday night games this season – winning 7-1 in San Francisco on Sunday, losing to the Mets 6-5 in New York on Aug. 12, and losing 6-2 to the Nationals at home on May 27.
Braves lineup:
1. Bourn CF
2. Prado LF
3. Heyward RF
4. Jones 3B
5. Freeman 1B
6. McCann C
7. Uggla 2B
8. Janish SS
9. Minor P
1,647 comments Add your comment
1
August 31st, 2012
1:06 pm
Phillies in town
David from Athens, AL
August 31st, 2012
1:06 pm
GO Braves!! Thanks Carroll
George_George
August 31st, 2012
1:06 pm
Thanks Carroll, good we have you. DOB off yet again, just WOW. He is off a lot.
tony austin
August 31st, 2012
1:09 pm
(And after losing two of three to the Nationals, splitting four games with the Giants and losing two of three to the Padres, the Braves are a half-game behind where they were when they left for Washington, now 5 ½ games behind the Nationals.) – DOB
And that’s including a 5 game losing streak by the Nats.
jeffrey d
August 31st, 2012
1:11 pm
So you’re doubling up on posts now too, George?
tony austin
August 31st, 2012
1:11 pm
Sorry, I mean … – Carroll, not DOB, my bad.
chipontheroad
August 31st, 2012
1:13 pm
I spect Minor domination would be to much to ask for
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
1:13 pm
Thank you CR!!! Bring us a win, now.
Cunningham……. doesn’t walk all that much.
Neither does Prado…. still a good hitter. If he can put up a .300 average, I don’t mind if he doesn’t walk a lot, esp. when he doesn’t K a lot either.
George_George
August 31st, 2012
1:14 pm
jeffrey d
August 31st, 2012
1:11 pm
jeffery I don’t mean to, it happens a lot since blog came back up yesterday. I see other bloggers are showing up with double posts also.
Carroll Rogers
August 31st, 2012
1:14 pm
yes it is, Tony Austin. probably should have pointed that out….though i was going a little nuts with all the parentheses.
jeffrey d
August 31st, 2012
1:14 pm
DOB off yet again, just WOW. He is off a lot. George_George
DOB off yet again, just WOW. He is off a lot. George_George
Based off the focal blogs, DOB has been working from August 23rd to August 29th (seven days) and traveled from Atlanta to San Francisco (no big deal…) to San Diego.
Let me ask you this, George George – do you normall work 7 days straight and travel across the country?
jeffrey d
August 31st, 2012
1:15 pm
normally
southgabrave
August 31st, 2012
1:15 pm
Carrol any indication that there will be call-ups for some bench help? They could really use a bat or two
Carroll Rogers
August 31st, 2012
1:15 pm
George_George, coming off seven games on the West Coast is no joke. Breather for DOB is well-deserved.
jeffrey d
August 31st, 2012
1:16 pm
I’m big on parenthesis too, Carroll.
Also, thanks for the new blog
Arkansas Transplant
August 31st, 2012
1:17 pm
Wonder who claimed Lester?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
1:18 pm
I spect Minor domination would be to much to ask for
Of course…. Minor’s been awesome since June1…. 3.16 ERA with an oppo. stat line of .218/.280/.384/.664, and he’s thrown 62% strikes…. He doesn’t need to be dropped from the rotation, Hanson does.
Juan
August 31st, 2012
1:21 pm
Hanson to the Sox for Lester
George_George
August 31st, 2012
1:21 pm
jeffrey d
August 31st, 2012
1:14 pm
jeffery, Take the TV guys, Joe Simson takes a week ofrf wraped around the all-star game and thats it. I don’t think Chip even takes that much time off. They are off when games are on ESPN or BIG FOX, but thier time off is nothing like our “hard working reporter” takes off.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
1:22 pm
Mike Minor has put up an above .500 record in both of his short stays in the Majors (3-2 in ‘10, 5-3 last year). He needs 4 wins this month to continue that streak… Hope he gets that done. Would sukk to have a losing record in his first real good season.
chipontheroad
August 31st, 2012
1:23 pm
thanx Carroll
Now we will get our call-ups to save the season
get your popcorn ready
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
1:24 pm
Thanks, Carroll!
CB
August 31st, 2012
1:25 pm
George, I don’t think you answered jeffrey’s question.
cabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
1:26 pm
George_George-
Unless I am mistaken, Chip & Joe fly on the team charter. Beat reporters do not. Chip & Joe do not have to write stories or meet deadlines for papers. Beat reporters do. Also, DOB and Carroll are assigned to games. They do not just decided to take games off. And just because they are not covering a game does not mean they are not working. Or tending to things that most of us take for granted, like laundry and grocery shopping and other things that we have time for because we don’t travel all the time and we get 2 out of every 7 days off.
chipontheroad
August 31st, 2012
1:27 pm
We will see Tobf I like Minor alot more than I do Hanson ,Tommy needs time to rebuild this mechanics
George_George
August 31st, 2012
1:29 pm
CB
August 31st, 2012
1:25 pm
I sure did answer him, if the tv guys can make all the road trips and still work a large percentage of the games, why can’t DOB?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
1:29 pm
ndrelton Simmons @Andrelton
Just saw the doc. Got great news
He later said that he’ll share the news later…. We’ll see
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
1:32 pm
George – did you read DOB’s response to your constant foolishness at the bottom of the last blog?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
1:32 pm
Jon Morosi @jonmorosi
#Mariners trade waivers update: Kevin Millwood cleared; Jason Vargas and Felix Hernandez claimed. @MLBONFOX
T’Would be awesome if we claimed Felix and actually got him… not gonna happen, I bet.
CB
August 31st, 2012
1:32 pm
No, George, you did not. Go back and read what he ask you.
David O'Brien
August 31st, 2012
1:33 pm
I sure did answer him, if the tv guys can make all the road trips and still work a large percentage of the games, why can’t DOB? — george
Are you seriously that clueless, as to the difference in the time demands of the job — writing blogs all day and night, covering games, writing game stories on deadline afterward, notebooks before game, etc. — in addition to the travel schedules of those who fly on team charters and team buses, as opposed to those of us who make our own travel arrangements and fly commercial, etc? Seriously, do you have any idea the difference in the job requirements?
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
1:33 pm
The TV guys don’t work the Fox and ESPN games – the radio guys take lots of time off…
CB
August 31st, 2012
1:33 pm
Why do I feel like I am talking to an empty chair? Dang you Clint.
George_George
August 31st, 2012
1:35 pm
cabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
1:26 pm
You may well be right about the team charter because I believe Chip and Joe are BRAVES employees while DOB works for AJC.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
1:35 pm
Does it need a repost VJ?
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
1:35 pm
Tiger (the golfer, not blogger) must be annoyed – first 17 holes include 8 birdies (6 in a row), 9 pars, but he bogeyed 18…
George_George
August 31st, 2012
1:36 pm
cabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
1:26 pm
You may well be right about the team charter because I believe Chip and Joe are BRAVES employees while DOB works for AJC.
chipontheroad
August 31st, 2012
1:36 pm
People please do not try to diminish the awesomeness of Carroll and DO’B
GO BRAVOS
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
1:36 pm
TOBF – not from us, apparently…
JT Grace
August 31st, 2012
1:37 pm
Let me get this straight. The Braves have a HUGE problem facing LHP. They have a RIGHT handed 1B (Mejia) who was just named the top power hitting prospect in AAA by Baseball America. He was also named International League Rookie of the year. Yet, he isn’t being named as a CERTAIN call up tomorrow. Do the Braves not understand that Mejia could be a big asset as RH thumper down the stretch????? Right now the only RH hitter on the bench with any power is David Ross. Mejia would give them two guys that they could call on. Yes, he needs to be added to the 40 man roster but there is some dead weight they could drop to add him (Hinske and Batista). I am going to be so disappointed if this guy isn’t given a chance this year. They refused to give Mauro Gomez a chance and now they are doing the same thing to Mejia.
David O'Brien
August 31st, 2012
1:37 pm
He could well be off, after all he has worked 6 games in a row, that could be a record for him. — ace
Actually it was seven games in a row, but who’s counting? I mean, two of them were on a weekend when you and your pal George were off (so those don’t count). Plus, since I realize neither of you would be familiar with air travel, the day before those seven included a 5-hour flight to San Francisco, and the day after those seven a 4-1/2 hour flight from San Diego. And again, since I know you and George don’t fly, you have to get to airports a little earlier since 9/11.
Oh, and I wrote an off-day story on Braves going into September — the longer version appears on this blog page — after getting home last night, since it was bit cramped in coach seats to get it written on the plane. But I’m sure my day yesterday, up at 5 a.m. in San Diego and done writing at 7 p.m. in Atlanta, was nothing to the rigorous demands of the jobs you two have, right? Anyway, enjoy the game tonight and your weekend off, fellas. Football and some brews? Some of us working stiffs have got to work Sunday.
smalltownbravesfan
August 31st, 2012
1:40 pm
wonder if Padres would take Hanson, Jurrgens, Spruill and Leonard for Headley???
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
1:41 pm
Yes, he needs to be added to the 40 man roster but there is some dead weight they could drop to add him (Hinske and Batista).
From what I see, he can be added right now… Braves have 39 guys on the 40-man roster…. Hinske and JJ aren’t gonna be dropped, not this late in the season. That’s not the Braves way.
George_George
August 31st, 2012
1:41 pm
VJ
Read my post, I said they were off when games on FOX or ESPN, but they stiil have to be in those citys.
****************************
August 31st, 2012
1:14 pm
jeffery, Take the TV guys, Joe Simson takes a week ofrf wraped around the all-star game and thats it. I don’t think Chip even takes that much time off. They are off when games are on ESPN or BIG FOX, but thier time off is nothing like our “hard working reporter” takes off.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
1:41 pm
And, I believe that he’s on the restricted list for Gwinnett due to family matters…
wonder if Padres would take Hanson, Jurrgens, Spruill and Leonard for Headley???
JT Grace
August 31st, 2012
1:42 pm
smalltownbravesfan — No, the Padres would laugh at that offer. Jurrjens will be DFA’d this winter. Spruill has value but not enough to get a guy like Headley. Hanson has very little value. It would take an offer like Teheran and Bethancourt to get Headley.
David O'Brien
August 31st, 2012
1:43 pm
I sure did answer him, if the tv guys can make all the road trips and still work a large percentage of the games, why can’t DOB? — george
By the way, are you familiar at all between the difference in what the well-paid TV guys do from the end of the Braves’ last game until the following spring, as opposed to what we ink-stained wretches do? (Here’s a clue: We’re not off for two or three months.)
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
1:45 pm
DOB: Isn’t your day off worth more than spending time talking to George and Ace, your 2 biggest detractors?
Also, do you have an idea of when the new blog format comes to your blog?
JT Grace
August 31st, 2012
1:47 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan, no, Mejia played last night. He was only off for a couple of days. I said get rid of Batista, not Jurrjens. Yeah, I know they won’t get rid of Hinske….just wishful thinking on my part. Overbay will take that final 40 man roster spot that is available. They could also put Beachy or Diaz on the 60 day DL to open up a spot for Mejia. There is absolutely no reason not to call him up.
Arkansas Transplant
August 31st, 2012
1:48 pm
Any word on who claimed Lester?
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
1:50 pm
It would take an offer like Teheran and Bethancourt to get Headley.
Well, that would certainly get him, all right. No bleep.
George_George
August 31st, 2012
1:50 pm
A while ago I said outta here but this came up, so Peanut still needs out so outta here. BTW ACE kinda disappeared and I had to do this on my own, but thats ok.
Threadkiller
August 31st, 2012
1:51 pm
Mejia is the Real Deal! but, he’ll need to learn a new position..Blocked by Freddie..
smalltownbravesfan
August 31st, 2012
1:51 pm
Braves best chance may be against Halliday as the only RHer, we know how they fare against LH pitching
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 31st, 2012
1:51 pm
George and Ace, getting David all riled up again…
Give the man a break, you two.
chipontheroad
August 31st, 2012
1:53 pm
oooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
\
serenity now!!!
David O'Brien
August 31st, 2012
1:54 pm
George, speaking of hard work, what type of job you holding down that allows you to spend much of the day on the internet ridiculing folks about their work schedules? Must be one that requires a lot of focus and attention to detail.
And on that note, I’m going to ride my bike. Not the Harley, george. The Triumph Bonneville. (I know you like the details of my life, so I try to help out.)
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
1:54 pm
Any word on who claimed Lester?
Not seeing anything on Twitta or MLBTR…
jeffrey d
August 31st, 2012
1:54 pm
Unless I am mistaken, Chip & Joe fly on the team charter. Beat reporters do not
I think DOB has to hitchhike
smalltownbravesfan
August 31st, 2012
1:55 pm
maybe Mejia can go to winter ball and try left field, possibly be bench player next year as reserve lf/1b. Would be nice to see him this September to see how he does.
cabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
1:58 pm
jeffrey d-
Maybe DOB should just stay out here. Doubt he’d mind
BrandonLee49
August 31st, 2012
2:01 pm
OK, Mr OBwankinobe.. seems You’e view of Working; Lounging in First Class while us bloaks come home to a sweaty sofa… Yeah You really got it Rough, there ol,boy..You can Buy Carroll her STEAK DINNER any day beween Now and Before the Braves Lose their next Game… and NO an Angus-burger from Mickey D’s DOESNT COUNT….
chipontheroad
August 31st, 2012
2:01 pm
DO’B should travel on a WWll era knuckle head while George George may well be a WWll era knucklehead
No. 1 Braves Fan
August 31st, 2012
2:03 pm
Why do certain bloggers make a big deal about how much DOB works or is off? Truth is Carroll does a great job when she fills in for him. Both are
very good. Lighten up people.
bball fan
August 31st, 2012
2:04 pm
David Ross should be the starter and McCann should be the reserve.
Sweet Old Buck
August 31st, 2012
2:06 pm
We win two of three. Minor finally has a bad game. Hudson stays strong. Maholm has a good outing and finally wins without giving up a HR.
tony austin
August 31st, 2012
2:07 pm
I don’t know how you do it DOB. I worked part time radio on and off (mostly on) for about 20 years, mainly overnight or Saturday shifts. My latest stint was every other Saturday in which I worked that schedule for 7 years before I finally had enough. I considered that “having it rough”, I couldn’t imagine a schedule like yours.
Props, sir.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 31st, 2012
2:08 pm
BrandonLee49 is apparently more dense than any of the other detractors…..sigh.
Skeezix
August 31st, 2012
2:09 pm
Carroll and Dave: Don’t pay attention to some of the idiots who comment here. The one(s) complaining about Dave taking time off probably have no clue what a job like his involves (definitely not and 9 to 5 job), especially when you include coast to coast travel. You very well may be responding to someone still in high school who can’t even relate to your responses/explanations since they have such limited life/work experiences.
Andy in Indy
August 31st, 2012
2:09 pm
DOB if you didn’t spend your off days scanning the blog for slights against your work ethic, maybe it wouldn’t seem like you were working all the time. You have a day off, turn off the computer and go do something.
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
2:09 pm
Well, that would certainly get him, all right. No bleep.
I’d keep him if I were the Padres. They need pitching, for sure, but it’s a good environment to develop pitching and I like their offensive core of Headley, Quentin, Maybin, Alonso, Grandal. Real solid 2nd base prospect in Jedd Gyorko coming up too.
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
2:14 pm
It’s early, but Matt Harvey certainly has the look of a top of the rotation type starter. Mets have something with him, Dickey, Niese and Zack Wheeler
cabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
2:17 pm
hey, how come nobody ever gets on Carroll for all her “vacation” days? I mean she works what, 3 games every 2 weeks? How lazy can a girl be???
Shaun
August 31st, 2012
2:18 pm
Efrim, what, you mean Todd Cunningham wouldn’t get Headley?
Dadgum.......
August 31st, 2012
2:19 pm
I’ll tell you how DOB does it. He is a multi-tasking genius with a snarly attitude that can raise its head as needed to squash the blog brethren who venture into spewing untruths and opinions that have no basis in fact. You can’t hide talent!
yep
August 31st, 2012
2:19 pm
If I may change the subject. I think the Braves will a big September. I think Simmons coming off the DL in a couple weeks is just the late season spark the Braves need to propel them into and through the playoffs.
cricket
August 31st, 2012
2:20 pm
Are you seriously that clueless
yes, he is
But I Wanna Bash Greinke
August 31st, 2012
2:20 pm
BB/9 are important to look at and none of these point to an ERA of 3.80 – he’s better than that. So please, enough with the Greinke bashing….Efrim
but 3.80 is what he gives up and what his team has had to beat to win
cricket
August 31st, 2012
2:22 pm
a blog about phillies series instead of one about greinke, a pitcher who will not even be attempted to be signed by braves? what is this world coming too..
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
2:23 pm
Efrim, Heyward with an .893 month of August.
CrαZy
August 31st, 2012
2:24 pm
A while ago I said outta here but this came up, so Peanut still needs out so outta here.
Hopefully to play in traffic!!
cricket
August 31st, 2012
2:26 pm
so, who to root for? STL or WSH?
keyLargo
August 31st, 2012
2:27 pm
I’m not suggesting anything but Freddie used to play 3rd Base. Maybe his range would increase if he didn’t have to worry about holding runners on first. I just don’t assume that Freddie is set in stone at first just because he seems to be at times.
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
2:28 pm
Houston Astros might hire Baseball Prospectus prospects guy Kevin Goldstein:
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/jon-heyman/19994785/clemens-is-just-a-sideshow-astros-ongoing-unprecedented-overhaul-is-the-real-story
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
2:30 pm
so, who to root for? STL or WSH?
Cards. No-brainer, from my seat.
I’m not suggesting anything but Freddie used to play 3rd Base.
…when he was 40 pounds lighter, key.
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
2:31 pm
Efrim, Heyward with an .893 month of August.
Better be a .900 after tonight or I’m done with this kid….
nolie
August 31st, 2012
2:31 pm
Nothing I am hearing from friends who go to a lot of Mis’sippi games is all that positive about Cunnungham, and they are pretty knowledgeable; they say B Jones-type back up at best, so I ain’t counting on him till I see him play in the majors and do well
cabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
2:33 pm
Freddie played 5 games at 3rd base as a 17 year old in Rookie ball. In 14 chances, he made 3 errors and has not played there again. Let’s leave him at 1st
Ward
August 31st, 2012
2:33 pm
Hello everyone! That’s what Iwas was concerned about. The hitting, and hope Sheets get’s healthy, so we don’t have to see Hanson. Phillies are Pesky, Rockies are playing better, Nats, Brewers, Mets are not going down with out a fight, and we have the Pirates. Not good…..
Ward
August 31st, 2012
2:33 pm
Hello everyone! That’s what Iwas was concerned about. The hitting, and hope Sheets get’s healthy, so we don’t have to see Hanson. Phillies are Pesky, Rockies are playing better, Nats, Brewers, Mets are not going down with out a fight, and we have the Pirates. Not good…..
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
2:33 pm
Efrim, what, you mean Todd Cunningham wouldn’t get Headley?
Nice one, Shaun.
Can we trade Gattis, Terdoslavich and Cunningham in the same trade? I’d love to see it.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
2:33 pm
I just don’t assume that Freddie is set in stone at first just because he seems to be at times…KL
I do
chipontheroad
August 31st, 2012
2:34 pm
I’d rather plattoon Uggla and Juan at third than move Freddie
nolie
August 31st, 2012
2:34 pm
I think it would take a gun to get Headley now
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
2:35 pm
Eric (Atlanta): Hey Ben – can you tell me anything about Danville prospects SS Jose Peraza and RHP Mauricio Cabrera?
Ben Badler(Baseball America): Big fan of both. Peraza has great plate coverage and speed at a premium position, Cabrera is running his fastball up to the mid-90s and generating some buzz around the Appy League. Braves did a nice job getting those two guys out of Latin America in the same signing class.
Finally a spec of a report on either of the two. Can’t wait to see how they fare in full season ball next year at Rome.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
2:36 pm
Uggla ain’t got the greatest arm at second, not so sure if third would work or not
Ward
August 31st, 2012
2:36 pm
Lyle Overbay should help. He did a good job while in Arizona, but Constanza is just like having Diaz, so not missing much on that one.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
2:36 pm
but 3.80 is what he gives up and what his team has had to beat to win
Mainly because of his defense… he had the 25th ranked defense when he was in Milwaukee, and he managed to put up a 3.44 ERA. At the time of the trade, his ERA was better than that of any Braves starter. Imagine how good his ERA would have been if he was a Brave. Probably around 3.00 or below.
Now, his first couple starts with the Angels are all on him. He was awful early…. but again, the Angels defense is nowhere near as good as the Braves defense is.
Greinke is a good pitcher. Defenses help their pitchers be successful. Greinke didn’t have that in Milwaukee and still put up respectable numbers. He’s better than his ERA.
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
2:36 pm
nolie, happy birthday belated, brother.
Just remember….no matter how old I get, I’ll always be younger than you.
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
2:37 pm
but 3.80 is what he gives up and what his team has had to beat to win
But peripherals count for something, right? I mean, do you really think Zack Greinke and Joe Saunders are equals as pitchers? Please don’t say yes based on ERA. For the love of god, please don;t say that as my brain will surely ooze from my ear.
Thanks,
Efrim
Ward
August 31st, 2012
2:37 pm
It would take 4 players to get Headley. Would like Headley, but the Braves would have to give up the house.
Obee
August 31st, 2012
2:37 pm
DOB is too tactful sometimes. People who criticize his effort are completely clueless! I often wonder how he manages to do as much as he does, and so damn quickly. I just hope he doesn’t leave for a larger market.
Murph
August 31st, 2012
2:38 pm
Houston Astros might hire Baseball Prospectus prospects guy Kevin Goldstein
I’m dusting off the ol’ resume… gonna go get a job in the Astros front office.
I’m sure they need a guy with limited baseball knowledge to head up something. Maybe concessions?
Hello Astros Sopapillaporium!!!
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
2:39 pm
I just hope [O'Brien] doesn’t leave for a larger market.
I believe he’s still in his arb years, and thus under blog control.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
2:39 pm
Mainly because of his defense… he had the 25th ranked defense when he was in Milwaukee,..TOBF
we are talking EARNED runs here right? Everybody knows that defense only causes UNEARNED runs……
what happened during that one great season, they have a completely different bucha defenders that year??????
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
2:39 pm
I’m dusting off the ol’ resume… gonna go get a job in the Astros front office.
Happy to see Luhnow look at guys like Goldstein and Law.
Rays also take from BP, ESPN.
Ward
August 31st, 2012
2:40 pm
nolie – How was your birthday?
nolie
August 31st, 2012
2:41 pm
Thanx Scoots, and everybody else who sent BDay wishes.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
2:41 pm
so, who to root for? STL or WSH?
Cards…. Easy. We are in the driver’s seat for 1st WC… we need help for the division.
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
2:41 pm
Happy to see Luhnow look at guys like Goldstein and Law.
Hey, we might get to see a closer in the 7th with those guys, LOL. Isn’t Luhnow supposed to be somewhat sabercentric?
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
2:41 pm
Happy belated, noles. Did you go to TB and see Bossman Junior play? Hehe.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
2:42 pm
IIRC Carroll was the beat writer B4 DOB?
She can be our backup plan if he holds out for too much moolah
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
2:43 pm
Isn’t Luhnow supposed to be somewhat sabercentric?
Big time, apparently. VP of Scouting and Player Development with the Cardinals since ‘06. Loves the draft.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
2:43 pm
If I went to Tampa for a BJ, it wouldn’t be Upton, Efrim……
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
2:44 pm
She can be our backup plan if he holds out for too much moolah
David won’t do that. More likely to restructure, to give the team some flexibility.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
2:45 pm
we are talking EARNED runs here right?
Yes…. but having guys on defense who have limited range counts for something too…. the Royals and Brewers had guys full of those type of guys. Braves are far and away covering more ground and preventing more runs than anyone else in the MLB this year….
the Royals and Brewers were giving up runs due to lack of range. It’s like they had Tyler Pastornicky’s all over their defense.
As for Greinke’s special season, I don’t know what happened there, the Royals still were bad defensively. He just had a “special” unstoppable season. I wouldn’t say that because of that season, he should be able to pitch to a 3.00 ERA, no matter the defense. Those 7 guys are behind him for a reason. They need to do their jobs and make the plays for their pitcher.
Fish Bisch
August 31st, 2012
2:45 pm
I love the new In This Moment album.
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
2:46 pm
And of course, left the Cards to become Stros GM last year.
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
2:46 pm
If I went to Tampa for a BJ, it wouldn’t be Upton, Efrim……
Hah! Awesome.
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
2:48 pm
“but 3.80 is what he gives up and what his team has had to beat to win”
Exactly. You can analyze every pitcher and say defense behind him wasn’t good or that he plays in a better division or that he is in the AL/NL, big market, small market.
Fact of the matter is he has consistently put up a 3.80 ERA. That isn’t elite and it isn’t worth $20 million.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
2:48 pm
If I went to Tampa for a BJ, it wouldn’t be Upton
Ward
August 31st, 2012
2:49 pm
Damn I see history repeat itself in Basball…….
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
2:50 pm
Big time, apparently.
Oh, goody. Now he can hire Brian Kenney to manage, and we can get a real-world test of Clubhouse Confidential.
I can’t help but laugh when that guy is on the dais with two former ballplayers. The looks of pity are the most eloquent “analysis” from the former players on the show, LOL.
chipontheroad
August 31st, 2012
2:50 pm
lol
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 31st, 2012
2:50 pm
The collapse that so many keep saying isn’t underway continues tonight?
Or am I just spewing vitriol in suggesting it might be?
Ward
August 31st, 2012
2:50 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan – I’m twisted already…….little humor.
Shaun
August 31st, 2012
2:51 pm
Can we trade Gattis, Terdoslavich and Cunningham in the same trade? I’d love to see it.
Efrim, well sometimes prospects exceed expectations and you can never know, so you aren’t allowed to discuss them until they’ve played in the majors. Then after a seaon or even just a couple of months you can make definitive judgements on what they’ll be their whole career. That’s the way it works, right?
Houston Astros might hire Baseball Prospectus prospects guy Kevin Goldstein
Good for him but I hope it’s not true, for selfish reasons. That could mean an end to the BP Up & In podcast and listening to Goldstein every week on it.
If you frequent this blog and don’t listen to Up & In, you are missing out.
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
2:51 pm
Why is it we never run this defense analysis for other pitchers we are looking to acquire. Like Dempster, Maholm, etc.
You shouldn’t have to justify an Ace’s numbers. You shouldn’t The guy should be a clear cut Ace with no excuses. And if he isn’t a clear cut Ace he should not be considered for $15-$20 million for a team with a limited budget.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
2:51 pm
damn, that’s twisted thing doesn’t work…
Exactly. You can analyze every pitcher and say defense behind him wasn’t good or that he plays in a better division or that he is in the AL/NL, big market, small market.
Well then, if the defense doesn’t really matter when you’re comparing pitchers and such, then why does defense matter at all? The pitchers should be able to get outs no matter who’s behind them, even if it’s 7 Pastornicky’s, or God forbid, 7 Yuniesky Betancourts. Just get a bunch of hitters on your team. Screw defense.
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
2:52 pm
Is Yuni Betancourt in the league any longer? I think he’s like the worst player I’ve seen with as many plate appearances as he has.
beekay
August 31st, 2012
2:52 pm
Hamels faked sickness to pitch against Braves. He would have pitched last series…. Phils hate us, thats why they used their starters againstus in the last series of the year. They let the Cards in by beating us and look where that got them. I sure hope we sweep their 3 aces!
nolie
August 31st, 2012
2:53 pm
I agree that Greike is not worth near 20 mil, but somebody will likely give it to him. I just hope it ain’t our Bravies….
Shaun
August 31st, 2012
2:53 pm
ncscoots, Brian Kenny was a guest on the Grantland Network’s podcast with Jonah Keri a week ago or so. Very good stuff. He’s an interesting guy. They talked a lot about PEDs. Very good stuff.
Ken Stallings
August 31st, 2012
2:53 pm
ESPN had reported last night that Holladay would miss his scheduled start against the Braves.
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
2:55 pm
well sometimes prospects exceed expectations and you can never know, so you aren’t allowed to discuss them until they’ve played in the majors. Then after a season or even just a couple of months you can make definitive judgements on what they’ll be their whole career. That’s the way it works, right?
Hah! More Friday Funny from Shaun. It does seem like this is the way it’s handled by many. But man, that’d make this stuff a lot easier……..heck, maybe I could even spring a job in a front office.
Ward
August 31st, 2012
2:55 pm
Let’s get Greinke who’s been an up, and down pitcher all year. Time for some offense next year.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
2:56 pm
Are we gonna get SWEPT? Is the world gonna end even earlier than the Mayans predicted?
chipontheroad
August 31st, 2012
2:56 pm
no line-up yet?
Ward
August 31st, 2012
2:57 pm
Braves will find a way to lose with out Halladay….. Little humor
jeffrey d
August 31st, 2012
2:57 pm
while us bloaks come home to a sweaty sofa
Sweaty sofa?
Shaun
August 31st, 2012
2:57 pm
Why is it so hard to understand that team defense affects a pitcher’s ERA? It really shouldn’t be that controversial. If you think it is, you simply haven’t thought it through.
Ward
August 31st, 2012
2:58 pm
nolie – I hate to admit it, but we will could down down with the ship…..
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
2:58 pm
I agree that Greinke is not worth near 20 mil, but somebody will likely give it to him. I just hope it ain’t our Bravies….
I’d be pretty shocked. I know Bowman was beating that drum earlier in the year, but I just don;t see it. I see 20 million and change to make moves and I do not see them spending that on a pitcher with the holes they have in the outfield.
I’m down for using that cash for an impact player and not spreading it around like many suggest(although I’m okay with that too), but Bourn and Greinke are not these type of players to blow the bank on.
By the way, how can folks knock Greinke for around 20 million but not knock Bourn for around 20 million? I mean, if we’re looking at ERA+ and what not – Bourn’s OPS+ is friggin 90 for crying out loud. But please, let’s give him 18 million a year….
nolie
August 31st, 2012
2:59 pm
Sweaty sofa?…Jeffrey
maybe the bloak has a Sheila with round heels…
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
2:59 pm
He’s an interesting guy
Shaun, he’s a buffoon. One who talks too fast, offers little in the way of knowledge, and constantly chews the cud of the same dogma. MLBN had a chance to really, really forward the concepts of advanced baseball analysis and completely dropped the ball, both with the segment’s concept and its host. Sad, really.
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
2:59 pm
“Why is it so hard to understand that team defense affects a pitcher’s ERA?”
It only affects on pitchers ERA. And why is it that no one wants to look at the weak divisions he has pitched in which affect ERA. He isn’t pitching against the NL East or AL East therefore his ERA is understated. Either way 3.80 is probably about right when you factor in his defense behind him and the ease of schedule he has pitched in.
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
3:00 pm
Why is it so hard to understand that team defense affects a pitcher’s ERA? It really shouldn’t be that controversial. If you think it is, you simply haven’t thought it through.
Agreed. Forget looking at FIP for a moment for those who are scared of Fangraphs(maybe it’s the green in the website – does that blind folks?) – just think about it. Really use your brain and think it through.
Ward
August 31st, 2012
3:00 pm
Oh well, we put up with worse being Braves Fans, so I’m going to have to wheather the this bad Omen coming up. We can only keep Believing In The Imossilbe.
chipontheroad
August 31st, 2012
3:00 pm
We’ll be ok Ward sept brings wind for our sails
nolie
August 31st, 2012
3:01 pm
of course it does some Shaun, but I agree with MF in that you should not have to justify an ace’s numbers. THey should be obvious to all in every aspect.
So no 20 mil from my stash for Greinke
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
3:01 pm
Shaun, he’s a buffoon. One who talks too fast, offers little in the way of knowledge, and constantly chews the cud of the same dogma. MLBN had a chance to really, really forward the concepts of advanced baseball analysis and completely dropped the ball, both with the segment’s concept and its host. Sad, really.
Boog. Get that man that job. He knows his sh!t and isn’t a buffoon. Love to see him run that show as he’s someone who understands statistical analysis and isn’t an ass.
Ward
August 31st, 2012
3:02 pm
This year for Christmas…….Braves should spend money on Bourn, and a big bat…….
Arkansas Transplant
August 31st, 2012
3:02 pm
Shaun, he’s a buffoon.
Can’t believe you called him that!
nolie
August 31st, 2012
3:02 pm
why? he is one
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
3:03 pm
maybe it’s the green in the website – does that blind folks?
Well, it’s pretty flippin’ ugly design, I’ll give them that.
Probably on purpose, to discourage ignorant BBWAA geezers from visiting too long.
Shaun
August 31st, 2012
3:03 pm
Speaking of podcast, on yesterday’s ESPN Baseball Today podcast Keith Law had a very nice rant. An emailer wrote in about “clutchiness” (the emailer’s word).
Law talked about how there is no evidence that clutch performance is repeatable. If it was a skill, a hitter would carry it with him from season to season, kind of like power hitters consistently post good power statistics from season to season. That doesn’t happen with clutch performance.
He also said that not only does no evidence exist in the data, if you argue that certain players step up in the clutch, you are essentially saying they are lazy and inept in non-clutch situations. Why don’t they step up all the time? Very reasonable stuff. Of course the other side of the certain-players-are-much-more-clutch-than-others debate isn’t convinced by evidence and reason.
Ward
August 31st, 2012
3:03 pm
My slogan……Believe In The Impossible, and we can hope the Braves make it?
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
3:03 pm
of course it does some Shaun, but I agree with MF in that you should not have to justify an ace’s numbers. THey should be obvious to all in every aspect.
So no 20 mil from my stash for Greinke
You might of missed it, but some folks were calling Greinke a “decent” #3 starter at best this afternoon. That was one oif the funnier things I had heard in a while.
But overall, yes, Greinke isn’t an ace – not an elite pitcher, imo.
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
3:04 pm
So the division you pitch in doesn’t affect your ERA? So a guy with a 3.00 ERA in the AL East is worth the same as a guy with a 3.00 ERA in the NL West?
Arkansas Transplant
August 31st, 2012
3:04 pm
I know, I know I took it out of context but I wanted to try my talents at spinning someones words.
That seems to go a long way on this blog. So how did I do?
cricket
August 31st, 2012
3:05 pm
what is going on? only 3 posts on this page about greinke?
Arkansas Transplant
August 31st, 2012
3:05 pm
why? he is one
Shame on you nolie.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
3:05 pm
Bill James now says he is not so sure that there is no clutch, in fact he mentioned Chipper and a couple others as players who have changed his perception on that point somewhat
George_George
August 31st, 2012
3:05 pm
One final word on DOB, He said he did a lot in off-season. Baseball season including ST is 7 months, playoffs if we were in them another month. During the other 4 months all there is are owners winter meeting and GM’s winter meetings , they are both about three days long so say another week of work.
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
3:05 pm
Boog. Get that man that job.
Yes, Sciambi would be a good guy for that, and would at least bring a cultural difference to the segment (non-martyr category). Boog ain’t all that photogenic, though, and I don’t know if he has enough Q Factor to host.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
3:06 pm
I musta missed that Efrim, about as silly as calling him an ace IMO
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
3:06 pm
Greinke has a better FIP than Matt Cain, I’d bet, without looking. But I’d take Matt Cain in a heartbeat over Greinke. And Cain has morphed himself into one of those head scratchers – Jurrjens was Cain-lite for a little while, I think. Too bad he just couldn’t hold up.
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
3:07 pm
I just don’t understand why soo many concessions are made for Greinke, but not for any other player we would acquire. I don’t want to make concessions for a pitcher who is getting paid like an Elite Ace.
Greinke may have had bad defense behind him which would raise his ERA, but he has also pitched in weak divisions which would also lower his ERA. At the end of the day the guy is a career 3.80 ERA. Not great and not worth $20 million. Not worth this much discussion.
And if Bourn is going to get $20 million he isn’t worth our discussion either. We can’t afford that. Max like $12-15 million for an elite player.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
3:07 pm
shame on me? a buffoon is just a fool, why should I be ashamed of thinking of him as one?
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
3:08 pm
I musta missed that Efrim, about as silly as calling him an ace IMO
Exactly. We now have people completely destroying the kid’s abilities because they don;’t want him as an Atlanta Brave. I mean, Wren and co. aren’t coming here to look at our comments to figure this stuff. Don’t need to knock Greinke and call him a decent #3 starter. That’s just absurd.
Ward
August 31st, 2012
3:09 pm
We need a LF with power, and sign Bourn…….
nolie
August 31st, 2012
3:09 pm
are we talking about the same guy AT, or are you upset with the word itself?
Ward
August 31st, 2012
3:10 pm
nolie – Let Lew make those comments…..little humor
Heisenberg
August 31st, 2012
3:10 pm
Count me in on adding Mejia in September. If it is true there are only 39 on the current 40 man roster, then I am clueless as to why this would not be done. Unless Overbay will take that last spot. But Overbay would not have been necessary if Hinske was producing, so I would drop someone to make room for Mejia.
On another note, Braves were not the only team to suffer epic collapse. Look how Boston handled theirs and be glad Braves did not overreact like that. The Bosox will be bad to average for several years.
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
3:10 pm
Yes, Sciambi would be a good guy for that, and would at least bring a cultural difference to the segment (non-martyr category). Boog ain’t all that photogenic, though, and I don’t know if he has enough Q Factor to host.
He’s been doing baseball tonight on ESPN, I think. Once and a while. Good dude. Really wish he got the Sunday Night Baseball job over Dan Schulman – whose not terrible.
raleighbravefan
August 31st, 2012
3:10 pm
DOB – Don’t waste your valuable time responding to those clueless jerks. The rest of us know and apprecieate how hard you and Carroll work, and what a great job you do. I hope you enjoy the little time off you do have, and look forward to your return.
cabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
3:10 pm
George_George-
Why do you even care so much? You really have no idea what DOB or anyone else does everyday, or in the off season and constantly complaining about it just makes you look ridiculous. You seem like a decent guy but your obsession with how much DOB works on this blog is beyond sad.
(And just to cover it, there is much more to the off season than you seem to think. Free agency, player signings, winter meetings, trades, fall league…)
Arkansas Transplant
August 31st, 2012
3:11 pm
Bourn.. an elite player? Really?
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 31st, 2012
3:11 pm
A buffoon lives in a jungle…
George_George
August 31st, 2012
3:12 pm
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
3:05 pm
Boog. Get that man that job.
Yes, Sciambi would be a good guy for that, and would at least bring a cultural difference to the segment (non-martyr category). Boog ain’t all that photogenic, though, and I don’t know if he has enough Q Factor to host.
**********
I miss Boog, liked him the season he was here.
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
3:12 pm
Okay, I’m out. Peace all.
Ward
August 31st, 2012
3:12 pm
Efrim – We need offense not pitching. Spend money on bat for LF.
Ward
August 31st, 2012
3:12 pm
Efrim – We need offense not pitching. Spend money on bat for LF.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
3:12 pm
Is Yuni Betancourt in the league any longer? I think he’s like the worst player I’ve seen with as many plate appearances as he has.
Free Agent…
I agree that Greinke is not worth near 20 mil, but somebody will likely give it to him. I just hope it ain’t our Bravies….
I don’t think he’ll get 20mil…. 14-17mil, Braves offer 15 and we can get him, imo. I must be excessively optimistic though…
By the way, how can folks knock Greinke for around 20 million but not knock Bourn for around 20 million?
THIS THIS THIS!
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
3:12 pm
“Don’t need to knock Greinke and call him a decent #3 starter. That’s just absurd.”
So is the flipside of people calling him an Ace, Elite, or borderline #1. That is just as absurd. Also just as absurd to think that he has a shot at being an Atlanta Brave.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
3:12 pm
I don’t remember seeing anybody seriously ripping DOB, raleigh. Maybe I missed it earlier
Arkansas Transplant
August 31st, 2012
3:14 pm
nolie, we may not be talking about the same guy. I tried to spin it to make it look like ncscoots call Shaun a buffoon. Apparently it fell flat.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
3:14 pm
well maybe George is semi-serious….
raleighbravefan
August 31st, 2012
3:14 pm
George & ACE – Time for both of you to STFU about DOB. You are obviously clueless about what it takes to do his job. The more you say, the dumber you sound. And yes, George, this time I am getting personal. You act like DOB jilted your sister, or something.
cricket
August 31st, 2012
3:14 pm
And why is it that no one wants to look at the weak divisions he has pitched in which affect ERA.
peripherals that are currently in vogue are the only ones that matter. if the peripherals do not match the outcome, blame has to be placed on something, anything else.
once the peripherals regarding opponents’ quality are developed and are in vogue, instantly they will become valid. till that point, you are a fool who does not know how to use the brain.
and with this discussion that has sucked the joy out of baseball on the eve of long weekend for me, i leave for greener, dumber pastures..
nolie
August 31st, 2012
3:15 pm
OK AT I get it now
nolie
August 31st, 2012
3:15 pm
That extra year I just picked up might be slowing the ol’ brain down at last….
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
3:16 pm
Really wish he got the Sunday Night Baseball job over Dan Schulman – whose not terrible.
You know who I’ve gotten kinda hot for this year? Costas and Kaat. Kaat is really insightful without getting in the way, knows how to relate a story, and like that. Costas is a solid if unspectacular PBP guy, but that man loves the game something awful, and it shows. They’ve really become my favorite pair.
raleighbravefan
August 31st, 2012
3:16 pm
nolie – Where you been? DOB has spent a good deal of this very blog defending himself…The usual insipid crap from George and ace about how much time DOB spends on “vacation”.
George_George
August 31st, 2012
3:17 pm
Efrim
August 31st, 2012
3:10 pm
Yes, Sciambi would be a good guy for that, and would at least bring a cultural difference to the segment (non-martyr category). Boog ain’t all that photogenic, though, and I don’t know if he has enough Q Factor to host.
He’s been doing baseball tonight on ESPN, I think. Once and a while. Good dude. Really wish he got the Sunday Night Baseball job over Dan Schulman – whose not terrible.
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I miss Boog, I liked him the season he was here.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
3:18 pm
Don’t need to knock Greinke and call him a decent #3 starter. That’s just absurd.
Well, he’s a #2… and would be the best pitcher on our staff… Huddy’s aging, who knows what we get next year… After that, we have quite a few #3s and 4s.
In 2014, we will definitely need a #2. Don’t want to have to depend on a 39-40yr old Huddy, Beachy will just be coming back, and Minor/Medlen are unknown. They likely aren’t going to become #2s or 1s. Let’s get our #2 now. Greinke, Shields, Haren.
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
3:18 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
3:12 pm
Is Yuni Betancourt in the league any longer? I think he’s like the worst player I’ve seen with as many plate appearances as he has.
Free Agent…
I agree that Greinke is not worth near 20 mil, but somebody will likely give it to him. I just hope it ain’t our Bravies….
“I don’t think he’ll get 20mil…. 14-17mil, Braves offer 15 and we can get him, imo. I must be excessively optimistic though…”
Nope. He’ll get around $20 million. 14-17 is ridiculous, and 15 from the Braves isn’t going to happen. Lowe got 15. Derek Lowe. And that was years ago.
“By the way, how can folks knock Greinke for around 20 million but not knock Bourn for around 20 million?”
Any player for around $20 is absurd….for the Braves. The Braves can’t afford that. Especially for a non-Pujols, Matt Kemp, kinda player.
Ward
August 31st, 2012
3:18 pm
DOB – Does great work, and Carroll, and we are lucky to have great reports, and be on this blog. Thanks guy’s for your hard work.
Heisenberg
August 31st, 2012
3:19 pm
Sunday night MLB is way more watchable now than it was with Miller/Morgan. Francona needs to go back to managing though. He has not been away from the game long enough to be objective.
coastalbrave
August 31st, 2012
3:19 pm
george, for God’s sake, please give it a break. Did you even read David’s comments to you? You are totally an idiot.
Arkansas Transplant
August 31st, 2012
3:20 pm
Nolie, that’s alright.. scoots didn’t even give me the time or day over it.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
3:20 pm
been gone till just s bit ago, thought you might have meant my comment about replacing him with Carroll and Scoots’ reply
Fols
August 31st, 2012
3:20 pm
I know what has to be done……I just wish I had thought of this earlier!
We have McCann, turns out he’s a catcher. He’s blessed with ‘catcher speed’. His body is failing him and we send him out there.
Let’s take on the Mauer contract to go along with Mac……have TWO bodies failing and play them on rotating weeks (not days, we have to let them find a groove!).
Ward
August 31st, 2012
3:21 pm
Tehran, or Delgado will be in rotation soon. We don’t need any more high priced pitchers……We need a high priced bat to play LF, so Prado can play 3rd base next year.
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
3:22 pm
Sunday night MLB is way more watchable now than it was with Miller/Morgan.
Certainly, Hershiser is much more cerebral than Morgan and is thus more entertaining, but Miller gets unfairly tarred with the Joe Morgan brush, in my opinion.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
3:22 pm
are we sure we wanna move Prado who is ranked as the second best defensive LFer this season?
nolie
August 31st, 2012
3:23 pm
I think Miller gets it cause he was pretty much a kiss-arse with Little Joe
Ward
August 31st, 2012
3:24 pm
Anways, all have a good one! Good talking again, but think of a high priced bat in LF. Prado at 3rd base. I like that idea, and Sign Bourn too. Big stretch coming for the Braves, so let’s get going…..Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
3:24 pm
“are we sure we wanna move Prado who is ranked as the second best defensive LFer this season?”
He’ll probably turn into the 2nd best defensive 3rd baseman if he moves there.
I don’t think Prado will ever have a position. Braves don’t have enough money to have a starter at all 8 positions.
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
3:24 pm
Nolie, that’s alright.. scoots didn’t even give me the time or day over it.
It’s not my day to beat on Shaun, AT. But I saw your post.
BTW, 3:23 PM.
CrαZy
August 31st, 2012
3:24 pm
Like 1 George wasn’t enough
Fols
August 31st, 2012
3:25 pm
I think they’ll ask Prado where he wants to play for his input and i’d be shocked if he wanted to stay out in LF. If he wants third, I say they give it to him.
It would get more interesting if he wanted 2B
Heisenberg
August 31st, 2012
3:26 pm
ncscoots, Morgan was easily the worst I have ever heard. Would rather listen to McCarver over him. But the total package is better now.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
3:26 pm
Might just be me but George does not rankle me like several others here do
Arkansas Transplant
August 31st, 2012
3:27 pm
TOBF, I wouldn’t defend the #1, #2 #3 thing.. that doesn’t really matter. Fact is, he’s a top flight pitcher that could anchor our staff past this season, won’t cost us any prospects and he’s still rather young, not to mention we’ve got a boatload of money coming off the books. There’s a good chance we may try to extend McCann over the offseason and I seriously doubt it will take what some think it will.
Lew
August 31st, 2012
3:27 pm
The thing is that I don’t view decent number three pitchers as the detriment that some here do.
Trader Jack
August 31st, 2012
3:28 pm
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
2:59 pm
He’s an interesting guy
Shaun, he’s a buffoon. One who talks too fast, offers little in the way of knowledge, and constantly chews the cud of the same dogma. MLBN had a chance to really, really forward the concepts of advanced baseball analysis and completely dropped the ball, both with the segment’s
True that. The show he hosted, featuring metrics, had one of the lowest ratings of all their programs
Lew
August 31st, 2012
3:28 pm
Or as an insult.
raleighbravefan
August 31st, 2012
3:28 pm
nolie – I would NEVER talk about you like that, my friend.
Fols
August 31st, 2012
3:31 pm
AT
Lets hope not, catchers in baseball have as much leverage as a 30 year old running back in football these days.
Dum-Bass
August 31st, 2012
3:31 pm
Seriously hope FG remembers he had Reed Johnson in LF and Prado at either 2nd or 3rd in the last 3 Braves’ wins. Don’t think that was any accident. When in there he has the highest batting average in the lineup. He could be replaced late in the game for defensive purposes if necessary. Maybe FG does read these blogs on occasion.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
3:32 pm
ok raleigh, thanx . sorry about the confusion on my part.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
3:33 pm
This DOB stuff is getting old…. I’m glad to have both Carroll and David. It would be cool to have Carroll more often!
Tehran, or Delgado will be in rotation soon. We don’t need any more high priced pitchers
A rotation full of #3s? The Braves didn’t win in the ’90s with a rotation full of #3s. Rather, they had multiple #1s. I’m not saying that we need many aces, but if we can have quite a few top of the rotation pitchers, that’d be great.
raleighbravefan
August 31st, 2012
3:34 pm
Go braves. Y’all have a great holliday weekend.
Arkansas Transplant
August 31st, 2012
3:35 pm
Fols, I’m just saying.. if there ever was a time to lock him up, it’s now. Specially if they are considering as much after next season. Might be better to cash in now rather than later.
raleighbravefan
August 31st, 2012
3:35 pm
TOBF – DOB stuff IS getting old. So is the Greinke stuff.
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
3:36 pm
Atlanta Braves @Braves
Tonight’s lineup vs. PHI (7:35, PTV/680AM/BRN): Bourn 8 Prado 7 Heyward 9 Jones 5 Freeman 3 McCann 2 Uggla 4 Janish 6 Minor 1
Arkansas Transplant
August 31st, 2012
3:36 pm
raleighbravefan, have a great Labor Day yourself.
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
3:36 pm
ACE and George are obsessed with DOB. Get obsessed with baseball, boys. And take more walks or something.
Fols
August 31st, 2012
3:38 pm
Oh I hear ya AT……i’m all for a contract extension when you know the team is holding onto him and his stats are this low. There’s no better time.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
3:39 pm
The thing is that I don’t view decent number three pitchers as the detriment that some here do.
I don’t either…. that means that the pitcher is league average… that’s fine. However, these guys likely pitch to contact (like JJ, look how that turned out, even before injury “busted” him) and put up ERAs near 3.6-7…. career ERA’s of about 4….BB/9 about 3, K/9 around 5.5, and a 10 H/9.
That’s fine for your 3,4,5 pitchers… but not for your 1-2 starters. Power arms are better. Guys that are #1s and 2s. I doubt that any of the last 5-6 WS Champs had rotations filled with #3s. They all had an ace and a #2, or 2 good #2s in their rotation.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
3:41 pm
TOBF – DOB stuff IS getting old. So is the Greinke stuff.
Touche…. but I didn’t start it… Efrim did!
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
3:41 pm
Seriously hope FG remembers he had Reed Johnson in LF and Prado at either 2nd or 3rd in the last 3 Braves’ wins. Don’t think that was any accident.
And for a few games, you might be right. But over a month of games? Huh-uh. They might end up sinking by using tonight’s lineup every day, but there won’t be much swimming with some other one. Might as well put the best players out there and then hope they remember who they are.
jfp
August 31st, 2012
3:45 pm
DOB and Carroll, thanks for all of the hard work that you guys put in to keep us up to date with all of the current Braves news. Hard to believe how some folks are so worried about your work schedules. But then again, those are the same people who wouldn’t want to win the lottery because they would hav to pay taxes on it. Keep up the good work and get your rest when you get the opportunity. Beautiful weather for riding the bike. Enjoy.
Sopheee
August 31st, 2012
3:45 pm
Thanks for the new blog, Carroll.
Happy 21st, nolie polie!
Murph
August 31st, 2012
3:46 pm
The guy who was the executive producer on EA’s NBA Live was plucked from obscurity, had zero game development knowledge, but did host an NBA Live blog for a couple of years…
Just goes to show all you really have to have is passion for something… that’s why I spend my days on here. Hoping that Wren will see my incredible potential, my high-ceiling, and give me a chance.
C’mon Wren. I’m right here! I did work on a baseball video game for 5 years. Hire me!
Fols
August 31st, 2012
3:48 pm
Everyone of my favorite teams, in all sports have a George that has to question the work ethic of the person providing the blog.
Why is this?
I never want to be that guy…now questioning why DOB doesn’t like listening to Tool? I can understand that one. He’s just saying that to piss me off because I think all music buffs need to enjoy Tool. He actually loves them, probably wearing their tour shirt right now and uses 10,000 Days to motivate his late night blog writing. I know you DOB, you can’t hide any longer.
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
3:49 pm
“I did work on a baseball video game for 5 years.”
Hopefully not for 2ksports. That’s the equivalent to the defense behind Greinke.
toast
August 31st, 2012
3:50 pm
who give a flyin ratz azz when a guy works or doesn’t? man, is this stuff that is really relevant here, shhhhzzzz.
agree it will be nice when simmons comes back but to think he will have a immediate impact might have to tamper expectatations. guy has been out for awhile, porbably going to take awhile to get his timing back. he will help come playoff time hopefully. if you need his bat to make the playoffs might be a little disappointed.
Fols
August 31st, 2012
3:50 pm
Murph, did you work on the Roger Clemen’s game from SNES? Cause that game was awesome and it didn’t even use real MLB rosters. Just sayin….
Braveone
August 31st, 2012
3:51 pm
From the previous blog which had 1,934 comments, TheOnlyBravesFan led the way with 158 posts. There were 213 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:
Rank Poster Frequency
1 TheOnlyBravesFan 158
2 nolie 92
3 Efrim 86
4 Arkansas Transplant 65
5 Lew 60
6 raleighbravefan 57
7 vitriol spewer (phil) 55
8 MFin04 51
9 Ward 44
10 ncscoots 40
11 Bat Masterson 37
12 ChattTownBrian 36
13 Jeff R 34
14 richbrave 34
15 toast 34
16 The A Bomb 33
17 CB 30
18 Venice Jim 29
19 count_schemula 28
20 George_George 27
21 CaptainMudd 26
22 ACE 23
23 Mark 23
24 ncbravesfan90 23
25 Animus 22
Fols
August 31st, 2012
3:53 pm
Braveone…lets not leave people out, if there are 213 names, lets have a top 213!
keyLargo
August 31st, 2012
3:55 pm
I’ve been on the run today and heard this somewhere on satellite radio.
Janish has one error since the All Star Break
Uggla has one error since the All Star Break.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
4:00 pm
Tonight’s Phillies Starter: Roy Halladay, 8-7 in 19 starts with a 3.88 ERA. He posted a 2.75 ERA in August, while pitching 36 innings over 5 starts.
Bourn 4-16 (1HR, 3 1B), 2 RBI, 3 K .250/.250/.438/.688
Prado 4-22 (4 1B), 1 RBI, 2 BB, 5 K .182/.250/.182/.432
Heyward 2-12 ( 1 HR, 1B), 1 BB, 4 K .167/.231/.417/.647
Jones 10-19 (3 HR, 3 2B, 4 1B), 3 RBI, 2 K .526/.526/1.158/1.684
Freeman 4-12 (1 HR, 3 1B), 4 RBI, 1 BB, 2 K .333/.357/.583/.940
McCann 9-23 (1 HR, 2 2B, 6 1B), 4 RBI, 1BB, 2 K .391/.417/.609/1.025
Uggla 11-31 (3 HR, 1 3B, 1 2B, 6 1B), 7 RBI, 1BB, 11 K .355/.375/.742/1.117
Janish 0-3, 1 K .000/.000/.000/.000
Minor 0-1 .000/.000/.000/.000
Every single hitter on the Braves team has faced the Doc before, and collectively have a .305/.335/.532/.867 line against him. In 215 PAs, they have combined for 62 Hits (8 doubles, 1 triple, 12 HR, 34 RBI) and have taken 10 walks, against 45 Ks.
CB
August 31st, 2012
4:02 pm
Those 213 posters are really only 4 people.
Fols
August 31st, 2012
4:04 pm
Uggla only one error since the break, that’s not too shabby! Not sure it changes anything because he has a fat contract to smash the baseball but it’s nice to see him field well during this near 2 year slump.
Does anyone have Uggla’s total stats as a Brave, MINUS his hitting streak last summer? If you take out those 30 games, i’m assuming his 2 year stats are god awful.
When he lights fire in the post-season I won’t care.
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
4:06 pm
When he lights fire in the post-season I won’t care.
I’d probably settle for a little smoke from some kindling.
They’re gonna need that guy to provide some lineup balance, if they’re gonna go anywhere in the postseason.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
4:07 pm
Janish has one error since the All Star Break….Uggla has one error since the All Star Break.
Dan with just 1 error since the ASG? Wow, I didn’t know he was that good… that oughta shut up the haters on his defense. Just checked on BBRef, for the 1st time in his career, Dan is above average on runs saved, being 1 run above avg. Keep it up Danny boy!
Janish has been unreal… better fielding % than Simmons. He hasn’t saved nearly as many runs as Simmons did though, and range calculators show him having less range than Andy. He’s still a hell of a pickup.
Heisenberg
August 31st, 2012
4:09 pm
Is the 1 error charged to Uggla the bobble that cost the Nats game. If not it should be 2. But even with that his defense is not the problem.
Fols
August 31st, 2012
4:12 pm
Last summer I went to Atlanta for a series, they gave me a Dan Uggla bobblehead.
Bloody thing is a curse! I’d knock his head right off if it wasn’t Uggla! Even in bobblehead form his arms are bigger than mine.
DAP
August 31st, 2012
4:12 pm
anyone interested in trading for kevin millwood?
My, my
August 31st, 2012
4:13 pm
So, Constanza is like having Diaz in the outfield? What? I can’t believe I read that.
George, why does someone else’s work schedule matter to you? Get a job, loser.
DOB, don’t wallow in the mud with the pigs (George). You both get muddy, but the pig likes it!
Fols
August 31st, 2012
4:15 pm
Better yet….just don’t wallow!
DAP
August 31st, 2012
4:17 pm
might be good to have another veteran starter on teh roster, if hes healthy. he can pitch out of the bullpen or maybe make a start or two if hanson cant figure anything out.
John Leonard
August 31st, 2012
4:28 pm
Random thoughts:I’m older than dirt(sorry for the name calling Nolie) Why not have more of both DOB and CARROLL? How can you value defensive records,when the scorekeepers are like the politicans are to the unions.See Keylargo 3.55 Remember ” the truth is only the truth, perception is reality” ( John Leonard April 13, 1987 9:34 P.M. est.)WDCQ 1240 A.M. on your radio dial Cape Coral FL.
Lemke's Knuckler
August 31st, 2012
4:29 pm
Hey, if you ever wanted a test to see how the Braves might fare against playoff caliber pitching, this series is about as good as it gets.
It’s time for another McCann grand salami this weekend!
Lemke's Knuckler
August 31st, 2012
4:33 pm
DAP…”anyone interested in trading for kevin millwood?”
At this point, he would probably be as effective at Hanson’s been lately. I think there’s no doubt that if Sheets comes back, he’ll take Tommy’s spot in the rotation. I don’t think Huddy, Medlen, Maholm and Minor are going anywhere. I’ll be curious to see how Tommy handles this. Sucks for him, but until he can get some velocity/location back on his fastball, he’s going to give up 4-5 runs every time out and this team is not scoring enough runs to make up for that.
cabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
4:33 pm
Atlanta Braves @Braves
Fredi just announced that the Braves have released INF Jack Wilson.
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
4:34 pm
Beat me…
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
4:34 pm
Hey, if you ever wanted a test to see how the Braves might fare against playoff caliber pitching, this series is about as good as it gets.
You know, I’m not sure that any of the potential playoff teams actually throw out three pitchers in a row this good. Or, at least, with these resumes. Maybe that’s a more appropriate characterization.
cabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
4:35 pm
I was trying to
Lemke's Knuckler
August 31st, 2012
4:37 pm
“Braves have released INF Jack Wilson”
Classy move by the organization. With Janish and Simmons, he no longer had a spot and by releasing him now, at least he has a chance to sign on with another team and be eligible for the postseason. Most teams would have kept him on the roster and released him whenever they wanted without any consideration for pursuing other chances. That’s why I love the Braves, they do it the right way.
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
4:37 pm
Fredi just announced that the Braves have released INF Jack Wilson.
Not surprised.
Gary O.
August 31st, 2012
4:41 pm
I don’t think the Braves should extend McCann this offseason. Pick up his option, and see if he rebounds next year.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
4:41 pm
Atlanta Braves @Braves
Fredi just announced that the Braves have released INF Jack Wilson.
Not a surprise… he wasn’t necessary anymore, never really was, actually. Not all that special. A pinch-bunter was all that was for us.
Now, there’s 2 roster spots available on the 40-man… see if they put anyone on it. Nice move by the Bravos, giving him a chance to go somewhere else…. take care Mr. Wilson.
Gary O.
August 31st, 2012
4:44 pm
When Sheets comes back, I think the Braves can try the Rockies strategy.
Start Hanson, and let him go for 4 innings (most of his trouble happens in the 5th anyways). And then bring in Ben Sheets for the next 4 innings (that will reduce his workload and help keep his arm fresh).
And play the 9th inning by ear
Lemke's Knuckler
August 31st, 2012
4:45 pm
ncscoots…”You know, I’m not sure that any of the potential playoff teams actually throw out three pitchers in a row this good. Or, at least, with these resumes. Maybe that’s a more appropriate characterization.”
Okay…allow me to reword then.
Hey, if you ever wanted a test to see how the Braves might fare against 3 PITCHERS WITH REALLY STINKIN’ GOOD RESUMES, this series is about as good as it gets.
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
4:46 pm
this series is about as good as it gets
Well put, sir, LOL.
Murph
August 31st, 2012
4:46 pm
Hopefully not for 2ksports.
No, I worked on All-Star Baseball for the now-defunct Acclaim Studios (Xbox, PS2, Gamecube).
Those were the days…..
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 31st, 2012
4:46 pm
Hack was awful the entire time he “played” for us….seemed like a nice guy but useless.
Good riddance. Hope he does ok at his next stop.
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
4:47 pm
How is Cliff Lee only 3-7 this season? His numbers are pretty darn good.
Longtime Fan
August 31st, 2012
4:47 pm
Y’all stop ragging CR. She does a good job. DOB does okay as well. I am still hoping that Tommy Hanson is not in the rotation next week. He doesnt get out of the fifth or sixth and he throws 700 pitches before the fourth.
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
4:48 pm
I only worried about characterizing Lee and Halladay as the all-universe guys they’ve been in previous years. I mean, the two have really had off-years in 2012. Guess that was why I was waffling.
Longtime Fan
August 31st, 2012
4:48 pm
Jeff R. Lee didnt get any support for most of the year.
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
4:49 pm
Lee’s been pitching pretty well, scoots. Not as off as you may think. He’s not winning, is the thing.
Longtime Fan
August 31st, 2012
4:50 pm
With Yanish in the lineup it isnt surprising about Wilson. Good luck Jack. Now if Yanish could hit .240.
Longtime Fan
August 31st, 2012
4:50 pm
With Yanish in the lineup it isnt surprising about Wilson. Good luck Jack. Now if Yanish could hit .240.
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
4:50 pm
Longtime Fan, yes, indeed. It’s odd to look at this slash line and see he’s only 3-7. Very out of whack.
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
4:51 pm
Not as off as you may think. He’s not winning, is the thing.
Ah, he’s a bumb, then. Results count.
keyLargo
August 31st, 2012
4:51 pm
Murph – you going to be cutting some grass tomorrow?
Murph
August 31st, 2012
4:52 pm
Atlanta Braves @Braves
Fredi just announced that the Braves have released INF Jack Wilson.
I didn’t like Wilson much, haven’t missed him since he’s been gone, but I feel bad for anyone losing their job. Hopefully he was smart and saved a bunch of money ’cause I don’t know that he’ll be able to find much work next season.
Adios Jack.
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
4:53 pm
Ah, he’s a bumb, then. Results count.
Let’s hope he’s a “bumb” this weekend.
Gary O.
August 31st, 2012
4:53 pm
Ward,
Tehran, or Delgado will be in rotation soon. We don’t need any more high priced pitchers…….
I dont think the Braves have any ace on staff right now (and DOB said something similar in one of his blogs). We have #2s and up. I think we need an ace on staff. Its hard to win a WS without an ace (imo).
We need a high priced bat to play LF, so Prado can play 3rd base next year..
That’s one option. Or you could go after David Wright (assuming he wants out of NY) and keep Prado in LF. Plus if we sign a high priced pitcher, Frank Wren could explore using one (or more) of his young pitchers in a trade to bring back a solid outfielder who would be under team control for a while.
ncscoots
August 31st, 2012
4:55 pm
Jeff, yes, and a stinky bumb, at that. Smell up the joint, Clifford.
Murph
August 31st, 2012
4:55 pm
Murph – you going to be cutting some grass tomorrow?
The grass, she no a grow right now. Too dry.
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
4:55 pm
I didn’t like Wilson much, haven’t missed him since he’s been gone, but I feel bad for anyone losing their job. Hopefully he was smart and saved a bunch of money ’cause I don’t know that he’ll be able to find much work next season.
Good guy, I’ve read. Big family guy, and he was quite well liked in Pittsburgh among his teammates and fans, as I recall. And a solid, not spectacular, shortstop in his prime.
Train Wreck Bystander
August 31st, 2012
4:57 pm
re: Jack Wilson
Eight hours to snag a spot on a roster with playoff potential? I remain skeptical.
But if this signals the imminent return of Simmons, then I am a happy camper.
MikeInFl
August 31st, 2012
4:59 pm
Hopefully he was smart and saved a bunch of money ’cause I don’t know that he’ll be able to find much work next season.
Yeah. Poor guy’s only made $40 million at 34 years old. Long way to go ’til his Social Security kicks in.
Actually, wouldn’t be surprised to see the Cards pick him up.
keyLargo
August 31st, 2012
5:01 pm
Murph – you didn’t get any rain in Houston from Isaac?
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
5:05 pm
Are we all cool with saying this is a collapse if we don’t make the 1-game playoff this year?
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
5:07 pm
“Lee’s been pitching pretty well, scoots. Not as off as you may think. He’s not winning, is the thing.”
Well he is a lefty and this is your Atlanta Braves, so I guess we REALLY have to beat the weakling Halladay.
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
5:12 pm
buck belue @buckbelue8
Simmons taking ground balls here at Turner Field right now.
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
5:13 pm
“Simmons taking ground balls here at Turner Field right now.”
What are we waiting for start him. He can hit as well as Pastornicky, Wilson, and Janish combined even with a broken hand.
toast
August 31st, 2012
5:16 pm
jack wilson to the cardinals to take furcal’s place and hits a 3 run homerun against the braves to win the wc a la bucky dent and ozzie smith!
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
5:18 pm
Are we all cool with saying this is a collapse if we don’t make the 1-game playoff this year?
No. What if the Braves play well and, say, the Cards play better. Is that a collapse?
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
5:19 pm
Perhaps I should say if the Cards and Pirates, for instance, play better than a Braves’ team that plays well?
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
5:21 pm
Jeff R – In case you misread, I did mean miss the 1-game playoff completely. Like not play in it….
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
5:28 pm
Got it, MFin04. I’d still say that if the Braves were out-played – but played well – that’s not a collapse. A collapse would be the Braves playing poorly and tanking (similar to last season).
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
5:30 pm
Got ya. With the Braves current lead and schedule, I think it would have to be considered a collapse to miss the playoffs.
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
5:33 pm
MFin04, St. Louis only trails the Braves by 3 games. The Pirates are back 3.5 games. The Dodgers are 4.5 games off the Braves’ pace.
The Braves hardly have an insurmountable lead over their competitors. Anything can still happen.
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
5:37 pm
Let’s say the Pirates and Cards came on really strong and won 94 games each. The Braves win 93 games. Did the Braves collapse?
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
5:38 pm
“The Braves hardly have an insurmountable lead over their competitors. Anything can still happen.”
Yeh, but the Braves have an easy schedule and the Pirates and Cardinals probably are going to have to kill each other off as well.
3 to 3.5 games is a lot if the Braves play good baseball and win at their current clip.
Braveone
August 31st, 2012
5:41 pm
From all blogs this year which totals 264,753 comments, nolie led the way with 12409 posts. There were 4,788 different poster names. Here are the Top 100:
Rank Poster Frequency Percent Cumulative_%
1 nolie 12409 4.7 4.7
2 Venice Jim 7,948 3.0 7.7
3 cabravesfan 7,456 2.8 10.5
4 Efrim 6,444 2.4 12.9
5 TheOnlyBravesFan 6,408 2.4 15.4
6 phil 6,297 2.4 17.7
7 Lew 4,752 1.8 19.5
8 Bat Masterson 4,145 1.6 21.1
9 ncscoots 3,956 1.5 22.6
10 VaBravesFan 3,788 1.4 24.0
11 Ward 3,617 1.4 25.4
12 David O’Brien 3,511 1.3 26.7
13 richbrave 3,461 1.3 28.0
14 brian 3,396 1.3 29.3
15 tiger297 3,112 1.2 30.5
16 DS1 3,010 1.1 31.6
17 Murph 2,997 1.1 32.8
18 jeffrey d 2,934 1.1 33.9
19 MFin04 2,727 1.0 34.9
20 The A Bomb 2,690 1.0 35.9
21 Tomahawkin 2,598 1.0 36.9
22 Disgusted 2,590 1.0 37.9
23 Brava 2,524 1.0 38.8
24 TennesseePaul 2,441 0.9 39.7
25 ChattTownBrian (CTB) 2,416 0.9 40.7
26 Jerry 2,291 0.9 41.5
27 Brian from SC 2,288 0.9 42.4
28 CraZy 2,263 0.9 43.2
29 ChattTownBrian 2,208 0.8 44.1
30 George 2,179 0.8 44.9
31 raleighbravefan 2,097 0.8 45.7
32 Jeff R 2,032 0.8 46.5
33 bravesgrl4life 2,032 0.8 47.2
34 count_schemula 1,994 0.8 48.0
35 JC Brave 1,980 0.7 48.7
36 Tomahawk Mafia 1,923 0.7 49.4
37 Trey 1,886 0.7 50.2
38 Shaun 1,856 0.7 50.9
39 cricket 1,825 0.7 51.6
40 Ease 1,823 0.7 52.2
41 abeeewright 1,819 0.7 52.9
42 ncbravesfan90 1,760 0.7 53.6
43 McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô: 1,747 0.7 54.3
44 NickB 1,713 0.6 54.9
45 Mark 1,712 0.6 55.5
46 Arkansas Transplant 1,637 0.6 56.2
47 DAP 1,586 0.6 56.8
48 kenhotlanta 1,574 0.6 57.4
49 JasonInFL 1,561 0.6 57.9
50 Sopheee 1,479 0.6 58.5
51 keylargo 1,473 0.6 59.1
52 ACE 1,469 0.6 59.6
53 Jimmy 1,413 0.5 60.1
54 Mixxo 1,410 0.5 60.7
55 Woody Woodward 1,384 0.5 61.2
56 McFann :Ô: :Ô: 1,324 0.5 61.7
57 noleee 1,318 0.5 62.2
58 uga-brave 1,284 0.5 62.7
59 MIBravesFan 1,281 0.5 63.2
60 Capt.Mudd 1,263 0.5 63.6
61 BFChris27 1,231 0.5 64.1
62 TNScott 1,203 0.5 64.6
63 Bravefaninok 1,176 0.4 65.0
64 njbraves 1,074 0.4 65.4
65 CaptMudd 1,073 0.4 65.8
66 Tom O’Hawke 1,062 0.4 66.2
67 LAG 1,025 0.4 66.6
68 CB 988 0.4 67.0
69 Pace 930 0.4 67.3
70 Ray 926 0.3 67.7
71 Hugo Z Hackenbush 892 0.3 68.0
72 monty 881 0.3 68.4
73 Mitchell 873 0.3 68.7
74 Soph 859 0.3 69.0
75 Bay Area Steve 840 0.3 69.3
76 MiaBchBravesFan 833 0.3 69.6
77 Frankie Wren 819 0.3 70.0
78 RC 814 0.3 70.3
79 Veer 814 0.3 70.6
80 Lawton 810 0.3 70.9
81 MikeInFl 775 0.3 71.2
82 Kat 750 0.3 71.4
83 Hillbilly 737 0.3 71.7
84 Ralph 726 0.3 72.0
85 J-Man 723 0.3 72.3
86 JNick 711 0.3 72.5
87 ncgary 699 0.3 72.8
88 Coach (2012 Fredi’s beisbol fandang 697 0.3 73.1
89 TBbravesfan 686 0.3 73.3
90 Fols 684 0.3 73.6
91 Tomahawkin (The Godfather) 672 0.3 73.8
92 Animus 642 0.2 74.1
93 Juan 619 0.2 74.3
94 SNEAKY PETE 602 0.2 74.5
95 Couch Tater 598 0.2 74.8
96 Powderfinger 588 0.2 75.0
97 Hmmmm 587 0.2 75.2
98 Jake W. 575 0.2 75.4
99 flange1 565 0.2 75.6
100 ray k 563 0.2 75.9
Top poster by blog post date:
Date Poster Frequency Percent
02JAN2012 Efrim 429 9.1
10JAN2012 Efrim 307 7.3
17JAN2012 cabravesfan 245 6.5
23JAN2012 nolie 308 6.9
03FEB2012 cabravesfan 253 6.8
11FEB2012 nolie 223 9.5
16FEB2012 cabravesfan 159 8.7
21FEB2012 nolie 101 9.3
23FEB2012 Lew 78 5.7
25FEB2012 nolie 174 16.1
27FEB2012 cabravesfan 183 10.8
29FEB2012 cabravesfan 188 10.9
03MAR2012 Venice Jim 81 4.9
05MAR2012 Venice Jim 302 21.4
07MAR2012 Venice Jim 191 16.8
08MAR2012 Venice Jim 176 20.1
09MAR2012 Venice Jim 210 31.6
10MAR2012 Rick 79 6.5
12MAR2012 abeeewright 107 7.6
14MAR2012 Venice Jim 159 10.6
16MAR2012 Tomahawkin 114 7.8
18MAR2012 Venice Jim 176 9.5
21MAR2012 Venice Jim 161 23.5
22MAR2012 Venice Jim 159 15.4
23MAR2012 Venice Jim 306 13.4
27MAR2012 Venice Jim 310 15.9
29MAR2012 Venice Jim 448 14.5
02APR2012 Venice Jim 109 11.9
03APR2012 noleee 87 6.5
05APR2012 phil 103 4.1
07APR2012 Tomahawkin 208 6.6
09APR2012 Tomahawkin 96 4.1
10APR2012 ChrisfromSacramento,Ca 85 4.2
11APR2012 phil 163 7.0
13APR2012 JasonInFL 93 5.0
14APR2012 nolie 172 6.6
16APR2012 nolie 80 6.4
17APR2012 phil 54 5.0
18APR2012 cabravesfan 74 4.5
19APR2012 cabravesfan 104 6.8
20APR2012 cabravesfan 104 8.3
21APR2012 nolie 240 9.2
23APR2012 count_schemula 131 6.5
24APR2012 cabravesfan 104 5.8
27APR2012 nolie 162 7.9
29APR2012 JasonInFL 64 6.6
30APR2012 phil 80 7.5
01MAY2012 nolie 64 3.9
02MAY2012 VaBravesFan 90 4.1
03MAY2012 nolie 38 5.0
04MAY2012 JasonInFL 115 8.1
05MAY2012 nolie 227 9.2
07MAY2012 nolie 129 7.8
08MAY2012 nolie 121 10.3
09MAY2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 112 5.4
11MAY2012 nolie 142 6.5
13MAY2012 nolie 143 9.6
14MAY2012 phil 68 5.5
15MAY2012 nolie 81 7.2
16MAY2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 105 6.8
17MAY2012 nolie 116 7.2
18MAY2012 nolie 147 11.2
19MAY2012 nolie 123 7.0
21MAY2012 nolie 74 4.9
22MAY2012 J-Man 83 6.9
23MAY2012 phil 74 6.2
24MAY2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 116 8.0
25MAY2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 100 5.9
26MAY2012 nolie 119 8.9
27MAY2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 96 6.0
28MAY2012 nolie 62 4.2
29MAY2012 phil 95 6.2
30MAY2012 nolie 201 8.3
01JUN2012 nolie 159 9.0
03JUN2012 Efrim 156 5.8
05JUN2012 Efrim 75 5.9
06JUN2012 nolie 127 9.1
07JUN2012 nolie 120 6.4
08JUN2012 JNick 119 6.4
09JUN2012 nolie 94 8.7
10JUN2012 Brava 45 3.5
11JUN2012 nolie 165 8.5
12JUN2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 91 3.5
13JUN2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 174 6.9
15JUN2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 94 6.0
16JUN2012 nolie 167 6.0
18JUN2012 Efrim 84 4.5
19JUN2012 Efrim 91 4.3
20JUN2012 nolie 217 8.0
22JUN2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 81 5.9
23JUN2012 nolie 115 8.2
24JUN2012 nolie 171 6.9
26JUN2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 125 8.8
27JUN2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 111 7.8
28JUN2012 phil 92 6.0
29JUN2012 nolie 186 5.9
01JUL2012 nolie 138 7.9
02JUL2012 Efrim 81 4.0
03JUL2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 156 9.0
04JUL2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 137 7.0
05JUL2012 nolie 127 8.6
06JUL2012 nolie 134 9.3
07JUL2012 nolie 153 3.9
09JUL2012 nolie 225 7.3
13JUL2012 nolie 113 5.2
14JUL2012 NickB 71 4.8
15JUL2012 nolie 203 7.5
17JUL2012 Efrim 104 5.4
18JUL2012 DS1 140 6.0
19JUL2012 jeffrey d 60 4.4
20JUL2012 Mark 216 4.8
22JUL2012 Efrim 209 5.3
24JUL2012 Efrim 278 5.6
27JUL2012 nolie 125 8.0
28JUL2012 nolie 75 6.2
29JUL2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 73 4.6
30JUL2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 279 10.4
31JUL2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 106 6.9
01AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 56 4.5
02AUG2012 Efrim 78 7.2
03AUG2012 nolie 79 9.4
04AUG2012 nolie 72 7.6
05AUG2012 nolie 29 4.3
06AUG2012 Efrim 64 4.8
07AUG2012 Efrim 94 8.3
08AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 228 10.4
10AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 102 11.0
11AUG2012 Mark 97 8.4
12AUG2012 Venice Jim 53 6.0
13AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 93 7.8
14AUG2012 phil 70 6.2
15AUG2012 Efrim 76 5.8
16AUG2012 nolie 106 8.0
17AUG2012 nolie 75 5.2
18AUG2012 Trey 67 7.1
19AUG2012 nolie 123 8.3
20AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 124 5.2
21AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 110 6.1
22AUG2012 Brava 92 6.0
23AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 125 6.2
24AUG2012 Brava 130 4.5
26AUG2012 The A Bomb 75 5.1
27AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 105 7.8
28AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 84 6.9
29AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 158 8.2
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
5:43 pm
YEAH! Made the 25-man roster.
ChattTownBrian
August 31st, 2012
5:47 pm
DOB, I would imagine most people feel unappreciacted when it comes to their jobs and how hard they do work. I know I do. Just give me my paycheck and don’t ask for any favors to the ones don’t know what they have is how I look at it.
ACE
August 31st, 2012
5:47 pm
Just because someone has a different opinion than others on this blog does make them wrong. It would be very boring if everyone came on here and said the same thing.
Steve
August 31st, 2012
5:50 pm
Ummm who cares how many blog posts they had? Kinda seems like those people need a life. Kinda like Ace and George.
ChattTownBrian
August 31st, 2012
5:53 pm
ACE, you can’t sit there and think you know how hard DOB works, or whatever. I mean you can of course, but it’s an ignorant thing to do. You see what I’m saying? His job sounds awesome and I’m sure it has it great sides, but it’d also be a highly demanding, tedious one I would think. Day and day after day rushing around like a chicken with it’s head cut off. God forbid if he had a wife and kids at home.
ACE
August 31st, 2012
5:53 pm
Thanks Steve for the support
ACE
August 31st, 2012
5:54 pm
CTB you are as bad as DOB I did not question how hard he works I just asked if he was off. George supplied the rest.
Tomahawkin
August 31st, 2012
5:55 pm
Better Take 2 out of 3, Braves have played their Crappiest Baseball the Last 5 years against the Phillies in September…This is a Huge Series what will the attendance be?
ChattTownBrian
August 31st, 2012
5:56 pm
Steve, I don’t know man, I can blog a lot during my life which can get real busy. It’s actually very easy. You’re judging people you don’t know. I know for me when I get some time away from whatever I’ll just come on here and talk some sh** and leave. Come back later and do the same.
ACE
August 31st, 2012
5:56 pm
I don’t know if he has a wife or kids or not??
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
5:56 pm
@CTB
What are you Banking on from this series?
Train Wreck Bystander
August 31st, 2012
5:58 pm
Please do not feed the trolls.
ACE
August 31st, 2012
5:59 pm
George is entiled to his opinion. If you don’t agree with it fine. That does not make him an idiot or a moron. He is a reason this blog is good because he doesn’t just ditto everything the group says.
ChattTownBrian
August 31st, 2012
6:03 pm
Tomahawkin, we should take 2 of the 3. Maybe sweep.
Joel
August 31st, 2012
6:04 pm
Can anyone help me with the new AJC layout. I cant’ seem to find the Braves writers’ twitter feeds as they were on the old page. Can that be found on the new format?
O.M.G.
August 31st, 2012
6:06 pm
CTB, I hope you are right, but I am afraid you are wrong.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
6:10 pm
But if this signals the imminent return of Simmons, then I am a happy camper…..train wreck
it does not according to what has been being said, closer to the middle of the month unless great strides have been made recently
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
6:12 pm
The blog has certainly not had any sort of meaningful impact on my life…
Lew
August 31st, 2012
6:12 pm
Made the top ten – strange cause I’m not even in the top 25 a good bit of the time. I must be persistent.
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
6:14 pm
I don’t think Braves will collapse this time, the curse of Jack Wilson has been lifted
On a serious note, I like Jack Wilson, but there are better options than him right now, hope he gets picked up with some one.
addy
August 31st, 2012
6:15 pm
Jack wilson released
nolie
August 31st, 2012
6:17 pm
he still gets paid, so its not that big a deal for him to catch on, though I’m sure he would like to
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
6:27 pm
Finally
Hack Wilson got “Ol Yellered!”
Too Bad we didn’t start the Season with both The Rev and Lil Andy Simmons playing SS and Meds in the Rotation like I was begging for all along
richbrave
August 31st, 2012
6:28 pm
To win rthe bats must carry the day. They must be tough outs, work the count, pile up pitches, and not miss mistakes. The offense has to be on it’s best behavior this holiday weekend. If they are, the BRAVES will continue to own rthe PHILLIES as they have this entire season to date. Slack off just a little, and the starters for PHILADELPHIA will carry out their avowed intent to bury the BRAVES.
The A Bomb
August 31st, 2012
6:29 pm
20th overall. That’s what happens when your kids are in college and you have zero $.
Oh well.
Hope Gonzalez doesn’t do too much mindf^&()ing with the younger Braves tonight. Doubt it.
Astral
August 31st, 2012
6:29 pm
There was no way they were gonna start the season with two unproven rookies at the same position, to suggest so is ignorant
richbrave
August 31st, 2012
6:31 pm
nolie:
‘accord with’….yo’ noles. nice touch with the English, you old fogey you. Heh!.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
6:31 pm
no money? heck you will be in the top 10 soon, cheapest thang you can do is sit at home and post
Train Wreck Bystander
August 31st, 2012
6:34 pm
I hate September Fridays… all my local radio stations carry high school football instead of the Braves games.
richbrave
August 31st, 2012
6:38 pm
Anybody know anything about MERSA?
kenhotlanta
August 31st, 2012
6:39 pm
I like Bob Costas and Jim Kaat a lot, too. Do you realize Kaat is 74 years old…he doesn’t look or sound it. Also like Matt Vasgersian and Smoltzie.
I know I’ll get flack for this, but I think Chip Carey has finally matured into a solid Major League broadcaster. It took him forever, but he’s made it.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
6:40 pm
@Asstral
I don’t think so…Both would’ve hit 8th which means little pressure at bats and, not to mention Lil Andy won the batting Title in the Carolina League a year ago, So please try and keep up before you call another bloggers posts ignorant
nolie
August 31st, 2012
6:41 pm
do you mean MRSA?
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
6:41 pm
@Asstral
“There was no way they were gonna start the season with two unproven rookies at the same position, to suggest so is ignorant”
I don’t think so…Both would’ve hit 8th which means little pressure at bats and, not to mention Lil Andy won the batting Title in the Carolina League a year ago, So please try and keep up before you call another bloggers posts ignorant
richbrave
August 31st, 2012
6:41 pm
Astral
August 31st, 2012
6:29 pm
“……There was no way they were gonna start the season with two unproven rookies at the same position, to suggest so is ignorant……”
Throwing that weight around again huh!
richbrave
August 31st, 2012
6:42 pm
Dr. said a couple hours ago my wife had MERSA. What is that?
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
6:43 pm
3 to 3.5 games is a lot if the Braves play good baseball and win at their current clip.
“Win at the current clip” is the operative phrase. If all things are equal, yes, of course.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
6:43 pm
Astral is correct, they would never slow the development of both players by having both of them spend half the season on the bench in the bigs. to say so is ignorant, almost as ignorant as telling someone who is way ahead of you to keep up
richbrave
August 31st, 2012
6:43 pm
MRSA maybe.
O.M.G.
August 31st, 2012
6:43 pm
MERSA, is a nasty little disease also known as mrsa, go to webmd, can tell you all about it.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
6:43 pm
richbrave
“To win rthe bats must carry the day. They must be tough outs, work the count, pile up pitches, and not miss mistakes. The offense has to be on it’s best behavior this holiday weekend. If they are, the BRAVES will continue to own rthe PHILLIES as they have this entire season to date. Slack off just a little, and the starters for PHILADELPHIA will carry out their avowed intent to bury the BRAVES”
Well Put, Their Fans want payback for those two sweeps by the Braves that put a Fatality to the Phillies Season…
Not to mention their Fans on the philly.com forum want to see Huddy get Drilled
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
6:46 pm
Matt Chernoff @RealMattlanta
#Braves fans will be happy to know Fredi Gonzalez says he will consider using Kimbrel to get 4 out saves from time to time in September.
richbrave
August 31st, 2012
6:46 pm
O.M.G.
August 31st, 2012
6:43 pm
MERSA, is a nasty little disease also known as mrsa, go to webmd, can tell you all about it.
Thanx.
brian
August 31st, 2012
6:46 pm
Every series is a big series for the braves from here on out. Yes they face 3 incredible pitchers but they should think of this as a preview to a post-season series. Not much different than Cain, bumgardner, vogelsong
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
6:46 pm
Good work Braveone.
I have been slumping as of late — have to step my posts up.
richbrave
August 31st, 2012
6:46 pm
Later
nolie
August 31st, 2012
6:47 pm
MRSA is a bacteria that will not get better with the normal first application antibiotics rich. basically it is a highly resistant staph germ, and they will have to try stronger drugs, perhaps even a daily IV.
Unfortunately, I am familiar with them from personal experience
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
6:48 pm
The Braves have made it harder on themselves with their slowed down pla as of late.
It was disappointing to lose the series to the Padres & now have played themselves into a must win situation every night from here on out.
That stretch where they lost 6 or 7 hurt, now the Braves have put pressure on themselves.
If they lose a post season spot, it will be the players own fault.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
6:51 pm
The pitching is a little thin right now with Sheets on the DL and Hanson is plain down outright unreliable.
Even the usually homer leaning Braves announcing team is now concerned about Tommy. I think it was Ben Ingram who says he is very concerned about Tommy & Ben seldom says anything negative or alarming, but hey, this time he told it as he really saw it.
I doubt if Hanson has another quality start the rest of the way, he has nothing left. As least for this yr.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
6:53 pm
Matt Chernoff @RealMattlanta
#Braves fans will be happy to know Fredi Gonzalez says he will consider using Kimbrel to get 4 out saves from time to time in September.
Sweet!
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
6:53 pm
I doubt if Hanson has another quality start the rest of the way, he has nothing left. As least for this yr.
Hanson shouldn’t start again.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
6:54 pm
We really need the good Johnny Venters back. He was not good the other night.
Got hit hard in one of those Padres games.
This past series gives me a bad omen, hope this losing does not metamorph into another September disaster.
I say there is a two thirds chance the Braves choke it all up. Its what they do.
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
6:56 pm
I say there is a two thirds chance the Braves choke it all up. Its what they do.
Glad you’re not running the team, Disgusted. They’d just pack it in and go have a picnic at Stone Mountain.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
6:56 pm
Jack Wilson is gone…. hope he gets picked up, but it’s gonna have to be quick… seems like a good guy, but he just can’t hit… And, after he came here last year, we collapsed.
I hate September Fridays… all my local radio stations carry high school football instead of the Braves games.
High school football over the Braves during the stretch run? Damn.
richbrave If your wife has MRSA, you need to be praying brother…. that’s one nasty bug.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
6:56 pm
Jeff R — I am not going to say he should not start again cause there are not many options unless FW gets someone at the last minute.
But two more starts like the last time and maybe you might have to throw in one of the kids in the system and that might not be fair but you have to put in your most healthy bodies out there that gives you the best shot at winning.
Its a tough decision for Freddi and Mr. Wren.
Tommy has to do better, even the most ardent Hanson backer will say that (I hope).
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
6:58 pm
I hate September Fridays… all my local radio stations carry high school football instead of the Braves games.
@TOBF — Wow, that stinks. Who cares about HS football? I can see College but HS, come on. Guess that is a rural Southern thing.
Jack Wilson had a good career but maybe its time for him to be a coach somewhere in the game. I do think he is the kind of guy who has something to offer the game.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
7:00 pm
I think that HS football does get too much coverage. Really…who cares.
Its the major leagues and major colleges that count, not HS stuff. Sis Boom Bah….Rah Rah Rah….
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
7:00 pm
Jeff R — I am not going to say he should not start again cause there are not many options unless FW gets someone at the last minute.
I think Delgado’s an option when he comes to Atlanta. He can’t do worse than Hanson.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
7:01 pm
Plenty of HS Football mania in the midwest too
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
7:02 pm
Jeff R
“Hanson shouldn’t start again.”
Take it To Vegas Next month that if somehow the Braves Luck Out in That Stupid 1 Game Elimination for the WC, Big Red Will Not be in the NLDS rotation, he will be used strictly out of the pen because he is hurt and every teams run at will on him
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
7:02 pm
Hanson shouldn’t start again.
Ever in his career?
O.M.G.
August 31st, 2012
7:02 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan, prayer is always a good idea.
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
7:02 pm
I think that HS football does get too much coverage. Really…who cares.
Matters a lot down south, parts of the southwest (Texas), and parts of the Midwest.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
7:05 pm
I did not realize that Jim Katt was 74 yrs old — still looks in good shape (seems like it was yesterday he was quick pitching hitters into a maze of frustration).
Here is a guy who if he had one of two more great yrs he would have been HOF.
richbrave
August 31st, 2012
7:05 pm
nolie:
Read the webmd thingy. She has reduced the size of the welts and the dr. marked them with indelible ink to be certasin they weren’t growing. She was in the hospital last week, and I’m assuming this is where she contacted the staph. BTW, diabetes appears to be the curprit behind all these infections she been having over the past four and one-half months. Thank you for the imfo.
My childrem are saying this can kill you, but the dr. was relieved to see improvement over the past 24-hours. So he’s just administering shots, and she can stay at home. I’m on pins and needles of course watching for any signs of retrograde health conditions. And being a holiday weekend, a pharmacy will administer the shots over the next three days.
Wife refused to go back to the hospital. Can’t say I blame her.
Brava
August 31st, 2012
7:05 pm
Thank you for the blog, Carroll.
Unbelievable that some around here are ragging on DOB about how much, and how hard, he works. Some of you need to get a life if you have nothing better to do.
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
7:05 pm
Hanson: shouldn’t start as a Brave, maybe again. He is hurt, yes. But I’m thinking he’s not the pitcher he began as. I’m not sure of his future. He’s just not helping the the Braves’ cause right now, so let’s sideline him for the balance.
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
7:06 pm
Disgusted is a man of his word – wasting no time stepping up the posts…
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
7:07 pm
Big Red Will Not be in the NLDS rotation, he will be used strictly out of the pen because he is hurt and every teams run at will on him.
I agree.
Brava
August 31st, 2012
7:07 pm
It will be interesting to see if Jimmy Rollins is in the Phillies lineup tonight. Manager Charlie Manuel benched the veteran shortstop in Thursday’s game against the Mets after he didn’t hustle on a dropped pop-up.
I can’t imagine having a manager who actually holds players responsible for poor performance. Must be nice.
ChattTownBrian
August 31st, 2012
7:07 pm
Maybe the worst part of Hanson right now is his attitude. I don’t know how many watched the interview after the game his last start, but he looked defeated. He doesn’t seem to have an answer, but still believes he pitched well enough up to that disaster inning. I disagree. He didn’t look good the whole game, but got lucky with some gem defense behind him early on.
Murph
August 31st, 2012
7:08 pm
Have a great holiday weekend everyone! I’m off to take the 4 year old swimming. The kid is a dynamo in the pool.
GO BARVES!!!
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
7:08 pm
richbrave, I’m pulling for your wife. Prayers.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
7:09 pm
Jeff R: I hear ya…. I don’t think Hanson needs to start in Sept…. I’d even consider leaving him off the playoff roster. He’s hurt and looking bad out there… don’t need to let him burst any trade value that he might have (though he has none, imo). Let him rest up, see what happens next year. He’s hurting us right now.
Let Delgado start!
nolie
August 31st, 2012
7:09 pm
yeah hospitals are the main place it is contacted, and diabetes is a big problem with infections. Has she been diabetic or was it just now diagnosed?
Brava
August 31st, 2012
7:10 pm
rich, I hope your wife get’s rid of that nasty stuff soon. And yes, she likely got if from the hospital. That seems to be a more and more commonplace occurrence from what I’ve been reading.
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
7:11 pm
I don’t know how many watched the interview after the game his [Hanson's] last start, but he looked defeated.
I’m sure the guy is incredibly frustrated. Talented pitcher who’s hit a rocky road.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
7:11 pm
he will be used strictly out of the pen because he is hurt and every teams run at will on him.
Just don’t bring him in with runners on base, and as soon as 1 guy does get on, out comes Tommy.
I can’t imagine having a manager who actually holds players responsible for poor performance. Must be nice.
Thing is, Uggla hustles all the time, and BMac tries as hard as he can…. can’t bench them for playing hard. JRoll was doing the A-Gon slow jog to 1st…. lazy.
richbrave
August 31st, 2012
7:11 pm
I think the BRAVES believe SHEETS can get back to his first four games with rest. So until the plau-offs they’ll park him I think. Or start one game before the play-offs. I really expect to see HANSON shut-down if or when we do get into the play-offs with BEN taking over his duties if there are any.
ChattTownBrian
August 31st, 2012
7:11 pm
A good start for Hanson, imo, is to get in shape this offseason for the ‘13 season. He was thin when he came up. I don’t know if it will help his lost fastball’s velocity and command, but I’d say it WILL help something with his performance. Also his delivery might need to be tweeked somehow. That has to hurt something in that arm darting a baseball like that somewhere down the line. Never seen anything like it.
Brava
August 31st, 2012
7:11 pm
gets, geesh.
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
7:12 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan, with you on Delgado!
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
7:12 pm
Howard Eskin @howardeskin
Its really insulting to phillies fans that @jimmyrollins11 is in #Phillies starting lineup 2night. Charlie Manual just doesn’t seem 2 get it
Retweeted by Matt Chernoff
richbrave
August 31st, 2012
7:13 pm
BRAVA.
I’m doing 20 in just a minute by way of thanx.
richbrave
August 31st, 2012
7:14 pm
Jeff R:
Thank you.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
7:14 pm
I really do not get the ragging on DOB and Carroll, what do they do wrong?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
7:15 pm
And yes, she likely got if from the hospital. That seems to be a more and more commonplace occurrence from what I’ve been reading.
Very very bad…. hospitals are making more and more people sick now… you harbor all those germs in 1 place, and then have workers do a sloppy job of cleaning, it’s bound to happen.
I feel for all those people who have to go into a hospital…. Lord help me to not need to go in there… I’ll hold out.
richbrave
August 31st, 2012
7:15 pm
Gotta’ go for awhile.
BRAVA:
Can I do four sets of five? Heh!
ChattTownBrian
August 31st, 2012
7:15 pm
Jeff, Hanson is still a talent out there. His loopy pitches could be knockouts way more if he’d control the fastball. He doesn’t even need to throw it 94 anymore. Just hit the spots and don’t be scared to throw them. It’d be a big waste if he just continues doing whatever it is he’s doing because hitters will adjust even more to him as time goes on. His numbers will get worse and worse imo.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
7:15 pm
all the blogs say basically the same thing. read one without looking at the title and you have no idea which team is being ranted about
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
7:16 pm
Why is Sunday’s game a 5pm EST start?
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
7:17 pm
Wow! Thank you, Braveone for all the cool stats about poster frequency.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
7:17 pm
I really do not get the ragging on DOB and Carroll, what do they do wrong?
oh c’mon, they allowed the team to lose…..I mean, its their watch, right???
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
7:17 pm
You know, I forgot aboout Delgado but if Hanson cannot do better at this time why not Delgado?
I do think Hanson is doing his best but its not good enough for a tight September playoff competition.
Ditto on Uggla that he hustles all the time. His slumps have never affected his proffessionalisim.
I hope Dan does get hot, when he is on he is an exciting hitter to watch.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
7:17 pm
You know, I forgot aboout Delgado but if Hanson cannot do better at this time why not Delgado?
I do think Hanson is doing his best but its not good enough for a tight September playoff competition.
Ditto on Uggla that he hustles all the time. His slumps have never affected his proffessionalisim.
I hope Dan does get hot, when he is on he is an exciting hitter to watch.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
7:18 pm
Sorry for the double post — must have hit the submit buttion twice.
Nolie — that was funny.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
7:19 pm
Also his delivery might need to be tweeked somehow. That has to hurt something in that arm darting a baseball like that somewhere down the line. Never seen anything like it.
He definitely needs to get that fixed…. however, his delivery was always “messed up”…. don’t know how much he could do to fix it.
TheOnlyBravesFan, with you on Delgado!
If Teheran was looking good this year, I’d have thrown him in as well… surely 1 of them can do better than Tommy… at least keep hitters from batting .300 against you. Delgado seems to be our only other option, but he is a good one. We saw him earlier. He can compete.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
7:20 pm
WOW
While Going Through some old Boxes:
I stumbled upon a old AJC Sports Section of the Braves Game Final report, that dated July 25 1999
The Headline Reads: Bullpen Falters in Smoltz’s return
Had no Idea That Carroll Rogers has covered The Braves that long???
Nuff Respect to Carroll Rogers
richbrave
August 31st, 2012
7:21 pm
Puff,puff. O.K. I did 20 sets of one BRAVA. Ain’t what I used to be. Heh! But at 69+ I guess I have to accept that fact.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
7:22 pm
Delgado is King a lot of guys, but he is walking a man every other inning too
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
7:22 pm
@richbrave
MRSA is an acronymn for Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA)…..which is basically a serious Staph infection that is resistant to almost all antibiotics…..Vancomycin is one of only a small few drugs that can fight it……
Check out this Wikiipedia article and get prepared for the most intensive germ fighting battle at your home as you guys battle it…My sister-in-law had it two years ago after some female surgery and even today stil has some occasional eruptions of it….
Yes nasty is an accurate description………nastier than you can imagine…..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mrsa
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
7:22 pm
Nats leading 2-0…
ray k
August 31st, 2012
7:23 pm
Hey, I snatched the 100th spot in post frequency.
Braveone, who was 101st?
nolie
August 31st, 2012
7:23 pm
Carroll starting covering the Bravos right outta the womb……
richbrave
August 31st, 2012
7:24 pm
nolie:
She and I have both known that we had high readings for the past fifteen years. This appears to be the first manifestation of real health problems however. She’s 70. She took prednisone for over 30 days which set her off I believe.
ray k
August 31st, 2012
7:24 pm
Is there a way to determine blog poster’s WAR?
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
7:24 pm
Just Found another Sports Page that Carroll Rogers did on July 18 1999…It Highlights
“Yanks Grease Perez Skid”
She covered a 21 year old Odalis Perez in 1999 as he started off 0-3
ChattTownBrian
August 31st, 2012
7:24 pm
“Delgado is King a lot of guys, but he is walking a man every other inning too
”
It isn’t sad nolie, it’s just a young’un learning. Mister Critical! Geez, another year older, still not a bit wiser.
richbrave
August 31st, 2012
7:26 pm
truth:
Thax. Not what I want to hear though.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
7:26 pm
high sugar is a killer rich, gotta be careful with it. Doctor never treated you for it?
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
7:26 pm
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
Oh, the memories of Odalis Perez in a Braves uniform. No fun at all, but at least that 1999 team won 103 games.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
7:26 pm
SIWTSDS CTB
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
7:29 pm
Anyone know why Sunday’s game is a 5pm EST start?
George_George
August 31st, 2012
7:29 pm
ACE
August 31st, 2012
5:59 pm
George is entiled to his opinion. If you don’t agree with it fine. That does not make him an idiot or a moron. He is a reason this blog is good because he doesn’t just ditto everything the group says.
*****************************************************
Hi all
Thank you ACE. I try to keep it interesting without attacking other bloggers.
ChattTownBrian
August 31st, 2012
7:29 pm
NEGTTFTOO, nolie. Too many letters.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
7:29 pm
Delgado is King a lot of guys, but he is walking a man every other inning too
Tommy’s pretty close… since May 1, he has 49 walks in 111 IP a 3.97 BB/9 while being hit at a .283/.359/.477/.836 clip… 4.84 ERA. 98 K’s in that time frame
Is there a way to determine blog poster’s WAR?
Their PAR you mean? (Post Above Replacement)…. well to do so, I’d need Shaun’s help… I’d need to find out what consitutes a replacement level blogger…..
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
7:30 pm
CB Wilkins @cbwilkinstweets
@GwinnettBraves C JC Boscan, OF Jose Constanza, and RHP Peter Moylan will join the Atlanta #Braves tomorrow.
Moylan and Constanza the MVP
will be back… Hope Moylan is good to go, heard from some friends that he didn’t look very impressing.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
7:31 pm
a replacement level blogger…..TOBF
use Tomahawkin, he can easily be replaced……
Brava
August 31st, 2012
7:32 pm
I wasn’t talking about Uggla and McCann, TOBF, just the team in general. There have been a few plays this season that meretited a benching, but Fredi doesn’t seem to find that appropriate. Although I must say, Uggla should have been benched after that play where he just held the ball while the winning run scored.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
7:33 pm
Uggla should have been benched after that play where he just held the ball while the winning run scored.
he was benched for the rest of that game….
kenhotlanta
August 31st, 2012
7:34 pm
richbrave: Prayers going up for your wife and you.
Brava
August 31st, 2012
7:34 pm
I hear you, rich. I’ve also slowed down a lot with age.
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
7:35 pm
@richbrave
With MRSA the hygeine is so important to prevent it from spreading. It is often contracted in institutions like hospitals and nursing homes, and can be really dangerous as it is super agressive. the lengths my brother and sister-in-law had to go through were unbelievable……….there are two versions…one is “hospital acquired” -or CA MRSA and the other is “community acquired” MRSA…..
Now however the two have almost merged into the same mutation and both versions are found both in and out of hospitals……
Very, very dangerous………..
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
7:36 pm
Big difference between not running out a pop up at all and making a dumb or bad play…
Jerry
August 31st, 2012
7:36 pm
The Braves have started their swoon a little early this year, and going up against the Phillies big three won’t exactly be kind to us. With McCann and Uggla dying their big death this year, it’s not gonna be pretty. Lets see what happens.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
7:37 pm
Brava
“Thank you for the blog, Carroll.
Unbelievable that some around here are ragging on DOB about how much, and how hard, he works. Some of you need to get a life if you have nothing better to do.”
Co-Sign and yeah Just Like some of the other smart ass ones on here who like to do nothing but belittle others just because a difference of opinion
Yeah Astral Thats you….
nolie
August 31st, 2012
7:37 pm
it is beatable Truth, I’ve had it twice, don’t scare rich to death
nolie
August 31st, 2012
7:38 pm
oh poor old Tommyhawkin got his feelingsies hurt
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
7:39 pm
Rollins must never learn. It seems like he gets benched by Manual every season for lack of hustle.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
7:39 pm
@Nolie
GFY
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
7:40 pm
Great start., Mike!
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
7:40 pm
@richbrave
hospital acquired is “HA MRSA” and community acquired or “CA MRSA”
and prayers are a good thing….without them my sister-in-law would not be here today….I’m 66 now so understand the slowing down.
Also as we get older many times our resistance is reduced as well….why some of those flu strains can be so dangerous to the “elderly”…..add diabetes and things get more complicated.
Will shoot some prayers up also………..
nolie
August 31st, 2012
7:41 pm
now is that any way to talk Tommyhawkin? Nothing wrong with calling a fool a fool, man up thar
Brava
August 31st, 2012
7:42 pm
Hey, T.
Yeah, I’ve noticed that “astral” person isn’t very nice. We haven’t had a run-in yet, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it happens. Strange thing is, from some of the comments, it appears to be someone who’s been around a while, so I wonder who it really is.
George_George
August 31st, 2012
7:43 pm
richbrave
My Prayers for you and your wife.
Brava
August 31st, 2012
7:43 pm
Good start by Minor.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
7:43 pm
Good way to start it!
Braves win tonight…. I’ll be around folks… Uggla, BMac, and Heyward have big nights tonight, I think Uggs and Heyward go deep. Minor goes 7 innings, get the W.
See y’all later. Peace
nolie
August 31st, 2012
7:45 pm
high sugar also compromises your immune system
Jerry
August 31st, 2012
7:46 pm
Good Lord! What a honey in the blue! Wow!
nolie
August 31st, 2012
7:48 pm
sigh
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
7:49 pm
@Nolie
“now is that any way to talk Tommyhawkin? Nothing wrong with calling a fool a fool, man up thar”
Oh I Heard That ####! Say It Again! SAY IT AGAIN!
Why Is It That everytime I Come on here, You just Insist on Pushing your Limits with Me?
Brava
August 31st, 2012
7:49 pm
Futility.
Fredo
August 31st, 2012
7:49 pm
(you are getting use to this, right Minor?)
maybe those runners left on won’t come back to hurt them …..
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
7:49 pm
That worked out poorly.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
7:50 pm
not sure why, but there it is again just like you wanted
“now is that any way to talk Tommyhawkin? Nothing wrong with calling a fool a fool, man up thar
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
7:50 pm
nolie…..don’t mean to scare richbrave….but you have to be aware of how bad it CAN be to be proactive and treat it seriously.
My brother works for Microsoft and has unlimited benefit insurance with no copays…the kind Obama hates…..at one time they had 5 bags of vancomycin in their refrigerator at $2500 per bag. She had a bad, bad time and is still very alert for signs…..
Hers was compicated by being embedded in a surgical wound and it grew wildly from there.
My sister is a RN Hospital Administrator and so we are aware of the seriousness of these infectious diseases…………..hygiene is madantory…..
Don’t know how old you are nolie but some of us older folks are more vulnerable then we once were….
nolie…..having it twice most often means that it was never totally removed or cured, but was lurking in your system, hiding if you will….that is one of the insidious things about it
Lil' Barry Bailout
August 31st, 2012
7:50 pm
Typical stand-pat offense. Two on, no out turns into zip.
Brava
August 31st, 2012
7:51 pm
T, use your ignore button. Don’t get baited and risk being bozoed again. Not worth it.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
7:51 pm
who the devil swore that Howard was done??
Lil' Barry Bailout
August 31st, 2012
7:51 pm
There’s Minor’s hang-dog look…trouble brewing.
Lucky or Good
August 31st, 2012
7:52 pm
There are teams that are good enough to get there or close to there by luck. There are other teams who when given the opportunity grab opportunity by the throat and control their own destiny.
That is not the Braves. They are victims waiting to happen. The Braves are good enough to be close at the end, but they are not tough enough to grab and control their own destiny.
So the Braves squander a first inning opportunity by two of their “stars” and then take the lead in the top of the second.
Braves could actually get swept this weekend and that isn’t a joke.
Jerry
August 31st, 2012
7:52 pm
Great display of September from the Braves in that bottom of the first. May not get another chance. nd whaddaya know, there goes Howard. And it starts.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
7:52 pm
Of course that just happened. Squander a good opportunity to score in the first inning and then allow a homerun on the first pitch in the top 2nd.
Lucky or Good
August 31st, 2012
7:54 pm
“and then take the lead in the top of the second.”
meant to say that the Phils take the lead in the top of the second
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
7:54 pm
here we go………….run ourselves out of an inning and get nothing….then lickety and we’re down one already………
Whoever thinks that Philly will lay down is dreaming…………
ChattTownBrian
August 31st, 2012
7:54 pm
Hard to trust them Braves anymore.
Tina
August 31st, 2012
7:54 pm
Forget catching Nats were going to have a fight for wildcard. Nats will sweep Cards and the way were playing we might get beat by Phils . Ball four to Chipper and inning over now Howard HR.God Minor Maholm and Hanson sure have a good HR pitch.
Lil' Barry Bailout
August 31st, 2012
7:55 pm
Mentally, Minor is finished for the evening.
George_George
August 31st, 2012
7:55 pm
Outta here for the game. 4-8 last 12, We need to turn that around with a lot of wins.
Chas
August 31st, 2012
7:55 pm
Chumper Jones: 2 on, one out. 3-2 pitch. Chumper strikes out, on a ball in the dirt; Bourn, strike ‘em out, throw ‘em out. WAY TO SEND A MESSAGE, HOFer! The Chumper Choke at bat. The start of the Phillies sweep in Atlanta. The 2012 collapse is on! Fredi G.is still in Atlanta.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
7:56 pm
turned 67 yesterday, truth.
ChattTownBrian
August 31st, 2012
7:56 pm
Chipper has cooled off, ain’t he?
NO MORE FREDI
August 31st, 2012
7:57 pm
Pretend this is a playoff game. You have runners on first and second with no one out.
BUNT THE RUNNERS OVER!!!!!
Set up Chipper for at least a sac fly. Fredi is an idiot and will kill this team AGAIN.
AZBravoFan
August 31st, 2012
7:57 pm
IT’S ONLY THE BOTTOM OF THE 2ND!!
Rick C
August 31st, 2012
7:58 pm
NO MORE FREDI, you want to have your three hole hitter bunt in the first inning? Really?
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
8:00 pm
Jeff, Hanson is still a talent out there. His loopy pitches could be knockouts way more if he’d control the fastball. He doesn’t even need to throw it 94 anymore.
ChattTownBrian, I’m concerned about his health, this season ans last.
Lil' Barry Bailout
August 31st, 2012
8:00 pm
Mendoza line, here we come. Way too many Braves “hitters” can say that.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
8:00 pm
Dan got mad there
Jerry
August 31st, 2012
8:01 pm
McCann and Uggla = 3 pitches and 2 outs.
ChattTownBrian
August 31st, 2012
8:01 pm
If Uggla wasn’t so pull happy, his hips would have allowed him to drive that ball. Mr. Pull Man.
Fredo
August 31st, 2012
8:02 pm
“IT’S ONLY THE BOTTOM OF THE 2ND!!”
I’ve seen some of their games this year decided earlier than that
McFann =Ô= =Ô= =ô=
August 31st, 2012
8:02 pm
WHAT THE CRAP??? WHY IS BMAC WEARING SPECS?????
nolie
August 31st, 2012
8:03 pm
looked like his hips were fine, he got it on the end of the bat
ChattTownBrian
August 31st, 2012
8:04 pm
As Tomahawkin would say – The Phillies can taste this series! They’re lusting for a sweep! BANK ON THAT!
tony austin
August 31st, 2012
8:04 pm
Same old thing so far; get ‘em on base and leave them there. And of course Minor gives up his 824th HR of the season.
ChattTownBrian
August 31st, 2012
8:06 pm
They traveled from California to see the Braves, people 10 minutes from TF won’t even go.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 31st, 2012
8:08 pm
Obviously no one else knows anything about it, either…
See y’all in about an hour…
Brava
August 31st, 2012
8:09 pm
T, that was cool story about finding those old articles written by Carroll in the 90s.
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
8:09 pm
Tower of Power Howard…..1 jack too many; please do not give him a belt high fastball [ever] unless we want to watch it sail out of the Ted.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
8:10 pm
lucky out there, pitchwas nowhere near the glove
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
8:10 pm
Our boys cannot hit tonight — looks like a September of offensive futility.
They deserve to be Booed.
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
8:10 pm
Hi and bye to @McFann!
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
8:12 pm
We lead the universe in missed opportunities.
What good is getting guys on base if U cannot score.
BOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
8:12 pm
@Disgusted….”Our boys cannot hit tonight.”
Can you recall our last ‘big’ offensive rush!!!
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
8:13 pm
Home Run Minor — giving up the HRs is the one thing that will keep him from being a real good pitcher.
He gives up one more and he deserves to be Booed.
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
8:14 pm
Happy [belated] Birthday to Mr. Nolieee!
nolie
August 31st, 2012
8:14 pm
the jerseys look really orange on the hitting replays??
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
8:15 pm
The last big offensive rush was a few games ago — offense is inconsistent — they have hitters and go through good spells but when it has counted as of lte they come up short.
They deserve to be Booed!!!!! Very BUMB!!!!! Real Very BUMB!!!!!!
Two quick out — frustrating and BUMB.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
8:16 pm
thank you Capt
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
8:17 pm
The Braves are playing real bad baseall right now & the repeat of September of 2011 is sadly on.
Note that Philly won’t be as bad next yr they will be back. Cannot say we will. We might but it takes a few $$$$$$$ to keep a team in the W column.
We are losing and this is disgraceful.
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
8:19 pm
Jon Morosi @jonmorosi
#Tigers trade Jeff Baker to #Braves for PTBNL on or before Sept. 30
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
8:19 pm
WOW!
I like Jeff Baker. Wanted him from the Cubs.
Carroll Rogers
August 31st, 2012
8:20 pm
#Braves just acquired IF Jeff Baker from Detroit for a PTBNL or cash considerations. Former Clemson Tiger.
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
8:21 pm
@nolie…..
Happy B’day…..actually I won’t be 66 till next week, the 7th…..
You guys make me feel better…..I’m usually the oldest one around in my circles……..got to hang here more often……..
brian
August 31st, 2012
8:21 pm
Just got back to the TV and see that the braves are giving minor his usual run support
Runnin
August 31st, 2012
8:21 pm
Anyone else having trouble with the braves.scout forum?
tony austin
August 31st, 2012
8:21 pm
Fredi running Uggla out there every night is akin to Bobby running Jeff out there every night.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
8:23 pm
Baker is ok, especially for the price
brian
August 31st, 2012
8:23 pm
If bAker can play SS, I wonder if that means that the braves are not expecting Simmons back in a few weeks
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
8:24 pm
The Braves never hit when Minor pitches, MIke should be a .500 pitcher with better run support.
Minor is a guy you have to like cause of how he has improved after that rough time in May and June. If he could only lay off the HR ball he could be great.
brian
August 31st, 2012
8:24 pm
Minor is dealing again. Really happy for the guy
nolie
August 31st, 2012
8:24 pm
I doubt Baker has played much if any SS
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
8:25 pm
Seems like a smart move–re; Baker.
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
8:27 pm
Baker has played 2B and all 4 corner spots.
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
8:27 pm
Good average vs. lefties? That is pure music to my longears!
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
8:28 pm
I do not know alot about Jeff Baker but seems like guy who can play al over the place and has put up servicable offensive numbers over his career.
You cannot be hurt picking up guys like that down the stretch. Wonder who the PTBNL is though?
nolie
August 31st, 2012
8:28 pm
sounds right Chris27
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
8:30 pm
Baker gives more flexibility.
Can give Uggla a day off without having to move Prado. With Overbay coming can give Freeman a day off without moving Prado. Basically keeps Prado focused on LF/3B which can be a good thing.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
8:30 pm
I hope that Simmons can come back even it its around 9/15 or so.
Janish has been more valuable then we could have expected but come on, we need Andy’s all around game back. If not this yr, then maybe he is right for 2013, do not want to see him risk further damage, his future is too important for us.
Now we need runs.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
8:33 pm
Mc Cann cannot do the job in the second half of the season anymore.
He faded late last yr and has gone to sleep this August too.
brian
August 31st, 2012
8:33 pm
Glasses again. Also seems like Mac is hurting with each swing
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
8:33 pm
Baker appeared in 15 games for the Tigers this month after he was acquired from the Cubs. The veteran has played second base and all four corner positions this year, while posting a line of .254/.293/.408 in 181 total plate appearances. For his career, Baker boasts a strong batting line of .298/.346/.505 against left-handers.
Against lefties is a good thing
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
8:34 pm
These guys do nothing but bat .000 when men are in scoring position.
Mc Cann has to go NOW. He cannot play late in the season anymore.
brian
August 31st, 2012
8:34 pm
Maybe baker plays for Uggla a good bit
brian
August 31st, 2012
8:34 pm
That was an ugly at bat
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
8:35 pm
The Braves are pretty good at getting people on base, but they are terrible about getting one hit.
Lee in S GA
August 31st, 2012
8:35 pm
think the Braves need to really consider not picking up McCann’s option…hell he is starting to make me hurt looking at him play
Sopheee
August 31st, 2012
8:35 pm
womp womp, frustrating fo’ sure.
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
8:36 pm
I think Uggla needs more than 1 day off.
Playing Baker won’t lose anything offensively compare to what Uggla is doing now.
Good try Chipper!
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
8:36 pm
Great lineup there Fredi…..just keep running Uggla out there night after night and let him fan us right out of the playoffs…………..
mjn99
August 31st, 2012
8:36 pm
I really hate Uggla
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
8:36 pm
Enough of Uggla too. If the Braves do miss post season you can hang it on both Mc Shamm and Ugglya.
And another missed opporituity. Mc Cann and Uggla need to be benched for the rest of the yr — enough is enough.
Fredo
August 31st, 2012
8:36 pm
wow this offense will make you pull your hair out
Jerry
August 31st, 2012
8:36 pm
The name of the game for all Braves opponents is, get past the top 5 in our lineup and feast on the dregs at the end.
brian
August 31st, 2012
8:36 pm
Drat. Way to go hard chipper
nolie
August 31st, 2012
8:36 pm
Chipper lowers the BOOM!!!
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
8:36 pm
Chipper probably would have been safe had he slid.
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
8:36 pm
“Quickly 0-2 to Dan Uggla,” Then panic takes over and a wiff, wiff….God it’s so old!
sid
August 31st, 2012
8:37 pm
here comes Tim Conway rounding 3rd….he’s out. If that were McCann catching he would have ducked. And Uggla….absolutely worthless.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
8:37 pm
maybe Uggs will be the PTBNL
M.V.P.Heyward
August 31st, 2012
8:37 pm
Dan Uggly strikes again!
What a surpise!
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
8:37 pm
Uggla and Mc Cann should be suspended — for non performance.
Disqualify from future competition.
Chas
August 31st, 2012
8:38 pm
Zero for August, Brian McCann…Totally Worthless Dan Uggla…plus the speed of a 40 year old man = no runs. CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE Your 2012 Atlanta Braves, ladies and gentlemen.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
8:38 pm
That would be a break if DET would pick up the rest of the $$$$$$$$$$ Nolie.
I doubt it.
Dave
August 31st, 2012
8:38 pm
Here comes a homerun watch….
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
8:38 pm
I’d be interested in knowing what Reed Johnson’s career stats are against Halliday………….since he has been here he’s hit righties about as good as lefties…..
There is no way he hits any worse than Uggla………….
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
8:39 pm
Uggla and Mc Cann have to be replaced for 2013. Plain and simple.
Tina
August 31st, 2012
8:40 pm
Uggla and McCann should not even be in the darn lineup. Two walks and a single And the Braves cant score. This is a playoff team Wren you should of blown this team up last winter.Hell we should get shut out all three games. Still say maybe a wild card and one game season over. Watch Phils with this leadoff walk it should be a run.
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
8:41 pm
After that roll…Their Catcher could be renamed….”Craps.”
Trey
August 31st, 2012
8:41 pm
I wish we could say that Uggla is struggling because of non-performance enhancing drugs.
Jerry
August 31st, 2012
8:41 pm
Mac visits Minor out at the mound and says, “hey look kid, you better shut these boys down because me and Uggs and gonna do shyt for ya.”
nolie
August 31st, 2012
8:41 pm
looks like Minor is not getting his pitches as consistently low as the last few starts.
sid
August 31st, 2012
8:42 pm
agreed Tina.
T-Dawg
August 31st, 2012
8:42 pm
This team’s gonna have to fight through the demons of the past two years because despite what the players and the AJC think, the real problem is the inability to hit. Uggla and McCann will stay in the lineup because Fredi is going to play by the book and quite frankly, I don’t blame him. You can only blame injuries so many times.
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
August 31st, 2012
8:44 pm
Brian Mccann is hitting under .100 with no extra base hits in August. He should be on the bench or bunting.
tony austin
August 31st, 2012
8:45 pm
Fredi needs to grow a pair and do something that sends a message to Uggla, pinch hit for him, sit him for more than one day, or whatever. If Uggla even gave the hint of trying to make an adjustment then I could see sending him out there, but he continues to try to pull everything out of the stadium.
It’s kind of hard to in when 4 out of 9 are pretty much automatic outs.
M.V.P.Heyward
August 31st, 2012
8:45 pm
Just like D-Lowe, Fredi just keeps running out Uggla.
I guess we need a manage with brain cells.
Busch Leaguer
August 31st, 2012
8:46 pm
Uggla ,Uggla, Uggla ,Uggla , Uggla, Uggla, Uggla, just go away and take McCann with you. Halladay has not cracked the 90mph mark tonite and he still makes Uggla and McCann easy outs. Fredo Puhleassee sit these ho hitting rally killers.Can Baker play 2nd base ,can the Braves acquire a another catcher that bats lefthanded. Put McCann out of his misery Fredo put his fat butt on the DL.
Jerry
August 31st, 2012
8:46 pm
I wish that “player to be named later” was Uggla right freakin now.
derek
August 31st, 2012
8:46 pm
ATTN: We have won games on the road trip without uggla and mccann in most of them… Please when Constanza gets here put him in left and prado at 2nd its about winning!!!! And if MaC is going to get an out atleast make a productive one!!!! cant win games if you cant move runners over!!!! Bull $$it bunt the fn ball get some runners my god i dont car who you are!!!!!!!!!!
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
8:46 pm
Mike Minor has pitched well, but of course the Braves have scored him zero runs.
brian
August 31st, 2012
8:46 pm
Strong work minor. 5 IP 1run on a solo HR. help him out braves
Tina
August 31st, 2012
8:47 pm
Yes Baker hoping the hell never see Ugga bat again.
Tina
August 31st, 2012
8:47 pm
Yes Baker hoping the hell never see Uggla bat again.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
8:47 pm
with Johnson and now Baker available, Fredi really should be shot if he starts Constanza even one game
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
8:48 pm
Is it too early for the Braves to make “a Labor Day Experience,” out of this frame?
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
8:49 pm
Minor said I got to do this myself
Busch Leaguer
August 31st, 2012
8:50 pm
Hope Uggla was watching Minor ’s at bat ,learn something you useless tool!
Jerry
August 31st, 2012
8:50 pm
So sad. Janish and Minor have 2 hits and Mac and Uggla have none. Just peachy.
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
8:50 pm
As per usual our Pitcher leadst he hit-list
Dave
August 31st, 2012
8:50 pm
shouldn’t we be bunting?
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
August 31st, 2012
8:51 pm
Ryan Howard playing behind the runner. BUNT moron.
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
August 31st, 2012
8:51 pm
This is Fredi-Ball. Get 2 on and try to hit a 3 run homerun.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
8:51 pm
Where has Michael Bourn gone? He has been a near nonfactor offensively since late June.
tony austin
August 31st, 2012
8:52 pm
What, Bourne struck out? No way that just happened.
Jerry
August 31st, 2012
8:52 pm
Wonder why Bourn didn’t even at least attempt to bunt? A lot of good things could have happened, but that’s neither here no there.
cabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
8:52 pm
Oh look. We’re winning
Dave
August 31st, 2012
8:52 pm
PRADO!!!!!
nolie
August 31st, 2012
8:52 pm
Marteeeen!!!
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
8:52 pm
Marteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
8:52 pm
MARTEEEEEEEEEEN!
M.V.P.Heyward
August 31st, 2012
8:53 pm
Teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen!!!
He’s the one always breaking the ice!
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
8:53 pm
Thank you….thank you…..and thank you
Sopheee
August 31st, 2012
8:53 pm
That’s my guy.
T-Dawg
August 31st, 2012
8:53 pm
If Fredi goes out on a limb and benches Uggla, the comment from management is hey…we are playing Uggla a lot of money you should have played him and then his job is in jepoardy. If he keeps sending him out there what can happen to him (Fredi)? How on earth can you blame him for sending out one of your highest paid players? Fredi is not stupid.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
8:53 pm
I hope that we see more of Baker at second base down the stretch.
I have really tried to defend Uggla but as for this yr, I cannot take it anymore.
The Braves best chances to win as it is now if for Uggla to be replaced cause come on, we are not going to see the good Dan Uggla again at least for this yr.
If he can be the Florida version of Dan Uggla in 2013 great, but I do not think we will see that player again. He is not good anymore, I do not care what his WAR is, he stinks right now as we get to September 1, 2012. We cannot win with him.
And I want to see more of Ross behind the place cause Mc Cann s done, forget about that option next yr, have to get a better player in there.
And finally a couple runs, thanks Marteen YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lee in S GA
August 31st, 2012
8:53 pm
Prado did a Ric Flair whoooo..i like it
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
8:53 pm
Thank you Martin !
And these idiots continue to mention Prado in trade talks?
bp
August 31st, 2012
8:53 pm
Prado is the best player on this team.
RaleighDawg
August 31st, 2012
8:54 pm
Wow…gotta love how the “first ballot HOF’er” slowed down and almost stopped at home plate instead of sliding or lowering his shoulder and going in at full speed…way to leave it all on the field Chipper !
Busch Leaguer
August 31st, 2012
8:54 pm
The whoosing sound you hear is Bourne flushing millions of dollars down the drain with these indifferent at bats he has been taking lately.He should consider himself lucky if any team makes him an offer over 10 million a year.
Busch Leaguer
August 31st, 2012
8:54 pm
The whoosing sound you hear is Bourne flushing millions of dollars down the drain with these indifferent at bats he has been taking lately.He should consider himself lucky if any team makes him an offer over 10 million a year.
sid
August 31st, 2012
8:54 pm
Uggla, McCann…observe Martin Prado…a player who works his butt off and plays with lots of heart. You 2 might learn something.
derek
August 31st, 2012
8:54 pm
I like our old second baseman better than our new one! Homer baby! haha Prado your still better than Uggla IMO!!!! Ugg go play outfield if you want to stay on the team we need a real second baseman!
Jerry
August 31st, 2012
8:54 pm
If I was Minor, I’d ask Uggla to sit somewhere else.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
8:55 pm
Where has Michael Bourn gone? He has been a near nonfactor offensively since late June.
Tomahawk — If another team wants to give him 6 yrs at 16 to 20 mil per than be my guest.
Now if we can sucker another team to take Uggla for a bag of beans than that will be luck upon luck.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
8:56 pm
I wish Jason Heyward could get a hold of a pitch against Halladay. This weak pops are disheartening.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
8:56 pm
does he have the dreaded Tommy Hanson velocity disease?
sid
August 31st, 2012
8:57 pm
RaleighDawg…he’s too busy counting all those championships he helped the Braves win.
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
8:57 pm
Prado to 2nd and Uggla to the pine for the season…………but no Fredi has a love affair with “Danny”
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
8:58 pm
FREEEEEEEEEEEMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trey
August 31st, 2012
8:58 pm
ANOTHER HOMER!!!
cabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
8:58 pm
FREDDIEEEEEEEEEEE!
(Oh look. More runs)
Sopheee
August 31st, 2012
8:58 pm
Yay, Freddieeeeee
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
8:59 pm
FREDDIE !
T-Dawg
August 31st, 2012
8:59 pm
atta boy
derek
August 31st, 2012
9:00 pm
Bourn lost his touch last year when we needed it most!!! He needs to step it up!!! Atta boy Freeman!
Lee in S GA
August 31st, 2012
9:00 pm
Freeman is really looking like the future so call “build around” man of this team…I know he has pretty much replaced McCann as any chance of the future team leader….
sid
August 31st, 2012
9:02 pm
Bourne is struggling but he is so good in CF…covers so much ground. and speed on the bases.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
9:03 pm
It is good to see Mike Minor get a few runs for a change.
And it was good to see Mc Cann drive the ball that last AB though it was caught.
I hope that Mac can get ONE extra base hit in September, am I asking for too much??? One XBH.
Uggla is just a lost cause.
derek
August 31st, 2012
9:04 pm
Thats 3 fly balls from MAC!!! dude bunt or hit it on the ground…i seriously have now jumped off the MAc wagon. you are not any good quit hurtin the team while your playin hurt! Ross can hangle it. I hate Mac!!!!!!!
nolie
August 31st, 2012
9:04 pm
Running game can tire a player out, many have poorer second halves
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
9:04 pm
Bourn is good in the field and is scary when he is on base but he is not $16 mil plus a yr good.
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
9:05 pm
Ouch!
sid
August 31st, 2012
9:06 pm
Disgusted….agree about the money part…..he’s not worth that much.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
9:06 pm
Trouble brewing.
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
9:06 pm
Come on Minor!
You got some runs now!
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
9:06 pm
Last I checked Freddie finally had a 2 plus WAR as he should have had all along.
Not that I am a big fan of the formula/stat but now there is NO argument that he is a legit starting everyday player.
Now Mike is getting hit hard — panic time. He was going so good now he is getting hit.
We need two more good IP from MIke. He can do it.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
9:06 pm
oh well, we know it is against the rules to score and not allow the other team to score too….
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
9:08 pm
Looks like Monor cannot stand properity and this is brewing as a loss tonight.
Looks like we are coughing up a nice lead and that is on Mike tonite.
If Minor coughs up this lead he deserves to be Booed the BUMB!!!!
JC Brave
August 31st, 2012
9:08 pm
I go on MLB.com to check on the game, and all heII breaks loose. I better go back to what I was doing…
keyLargo
August 31st, 2012
9:08 pm
McCann is the one we can’t give the $12M option to without knowing how he is going to perform. Sign the option and the pressure will be on the Braves to sign him to a six year, $120Mish contract. I’d just tell him if you want the option, have surgery in the off season and the Braves will furnish the guys to guide him through his rehab. Then we’ll talk long term.
If he refuses, trade him to MN for joe Mauer
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
9:09 pm
This is on Minor now.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 31st, 2012
9:09 pm
Well, shoot…
Frumpy
August 31st, 2012
9:09 pm
Run support is just about the worse thing for Minor. So predicable he would give up runs after getting 4 runs in the 5th.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
9:09 pm
Minor is minor……
Jerry
August 31st, 2012
9:09 pm
That is what the Braves do.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
9:10 pm
The Braves choke again.
This is EXACTL why Minor is not a winner he is a loser like Jo JO and Kawakami the rest of his life.
The Braves R going on a 10 game losing streak this season is over and Moinor should have been BOOEd when he got taken out — unacceptable.
Lee in S GA
August 31st, 2012
9:10 pm
The Phillies are probably the most feared sub-500 team playing at the moment.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
9:10 pm
I have to politely disagree with Minor being removed from the game. He gave up a bloop, and a bunt single. I would much rather have Minor stay in rather than see Durbin allow the go-ahead run to score.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
9:10 pm
I doubt if the Braves can even hold a .500 record the way things are going.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
9:11 pm
Minor succks
M.V.P.Heyward
August 31st, 2012
9:11 pm
No Durbinator here.
bp
August 31st, 2012
9:11 pm
when you KNOW he is gonna bunt throw it at his head.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
9:12 pm
Minor was kept in too long, guy had the ball up most of the night
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 31st, 2012
9:13 pm
Utley coming in to score scared the youknowwhat outta me…
nolie
August 31st, 2012
9:13 pm
my my how quickly things can change
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
9:14 pm
Can Mc Shamm block the plate Charlie Brown?????
This has loss writtern allover it and this is a must win game.
CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE!!!!!! These players are gutless and garbage
Minor was a mistake in that draft he scuks
sid
August 31st, 2012
9:14 pm
funny McFann…and true.
Fredo
August 31st, 2012
9:14 pm
the Braves have been their own spoilers tonight
tony austin
August 31st, 2012
9:14 pm
So much for a shutdown inning.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
9:14 pm
I want Minor off this team next yr
Citifield Jones
August 31st, 2012
9:14 pm
Minor sucks.
Busch Leaguer
August 31st, 2012
9:14 pm
Minor is the proverbial fifth starter ,pitches well without run support and loses and when he gets runs to work with he spits the bit and starts throwing bp fastballs down the middle.
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
9:15 pm
Minor was done before Ryan’s hit………..once he loaded the bases he had that hound dog look again….
Lee in S GA
August 31st, 2012
9:15 pm
Minor was kept in too long, guy had the ball up most of the night
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your right nolie…you could really tell it the last couple of innings
Jay Dubu
August 31st, 2012
9:15 pm
Braves better get this one tonight, because they face two tough lefties over the next 2.
sid
August 31st, 2012
9:16 pm
you can’t block that pitch?
Jerry
August 31st, 2012
9:16 pm
Can’t hit and can’t block balls in the dirt.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
9:16 pm
That was the obligatory pass ball/wild pitch by a reliever that allows the opposition to score another run. Happens nearly every game.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 31st, 2012
9:16 pm
Shut up, Joe.
Sopheee
August 31st, 2012
9:17 pm
Time to make brick walls again.
T-Dawg
August 31st, 2012
9:17 pm
I sure wish we could walk more people.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
9:17 pm
CAN WE PLS SEND MC CANN HOME !!!!!!!!!!! HE CAN”T HIT CANNOT BLOCK THE PLATE AND CANNOT BLOCK THE BALL LOW!!!!!!!!
HE IS WASHED UP AND CANT PLAY ANYMORE!!!!!!!
Chas
August 31st, 2012
9:17 pm
Give Mike Minor 4 runs…and then a shut down inning…NOT
CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE
Your 2012 Atlanta Braves, ladies and gentlemen.
And Brian McCann again shows his defensive prowess…the laughs just keep on comin’…
JC Brave
August 31st, 2012
9:17 pm
WSH is completely routing the Cards.
8 – 0
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
9:18 pm
It was once 4-1—yes, mood elevated…blah, blah…..I went to talk to my neighbor/got the football score of the local H.S. game…walked in and saw this/Wow…it happens just about everytime to us.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
9:18 pm
“Minor is the proverbial fifth starter ,pitches well without run support and loses and when he gets runs to work with he spits the bit and starts throwing bp fastballs down the middle”
That is very Kenshin Kawakami like. That is what Minor is, a lefthanded Kawakam..
nolie
August 31st, 2012
9:19 pm
we really shoulda scored more than we did against Roy, he looked awful tonight
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
9:20 pm
Not impressed with Gas Can Durbin tonight he deserves to be Booed.
M.V.P.Heyward
August 31st, 2012
9:20 pm
Good job, Chad.
Lucky or Good
August 31st, 2012
9:21 pm
It’s only 2 1/2 hours til September. Braves are trying to avoid the rush and starting their swoon this week.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
9:21 pm
not political, but Clint really looked bad the other night
sid
August 31st, 2012
9:21 pm
leading off the inning……the Black hole.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
9:21 pm
The Braves have four runs which means they are finished scoring for the evening.
Busch Leaguer
August 31st, 2012
9:22 pm
Fattboy lets another ball go to the screen. If Mc Fatty is going to bat .150 with no power his lard ass better be the best defensive catcher in the majors, obviously he is not. Fredo put Ross in the lineup now he will hit .250 and hit a bomb every 20 ab’s and base runners do not run wild on him. Fredo are you there ,hello ,hello , hello , Fredo ,Fredo ,wake up it is not a dream it is freakin Deja Vu all over again the 2012 Braves are turning into the 2011 Braves right before our eyes and Fredo is just as useless as last year.
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
9:22 pm
4-1 to 4-4, that’s depressing.
Please win this game…
Tina
August 31st, 2012
9:22 pm
Sure wish the Braves could back once when they are down by three.
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
9:22 pm
Uggla does something here!
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 31st, 2012
9:23 pm
Sopheee Time to make brick walls again.
For sure. Tonight has been a ginormous reminder of why I wasn’t in-gaming…
And if I have to see that danged play-at-the-plate with Chipper one more time…
cabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
9:24 pm
And we are winning again
DANNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Citifield Jones
August 31st, 2012
9:24 pm
Uggla saves the night…
M.V.P.Heyward
August 31st, 2012
9:24 pm
Dan Uggly? Is that you?????
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
9:24 pm
Told Ya!!!!!!!!!!!!
UGGLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jaded
August 31st, 2012
9:24 pm
Huggla gonna Hug.
JC Brave
August 31st, 2012
9:24 pm
Good guy Dan.
Jerry
August 31st, 2012
9:24 pm
Lucky POS!
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 31st, 2012
9:24 pm
Yay, Uggla!!
keyLargo
August 31st, 2012
9:25 pm
That Philly catcher probably makes 1/25 of what CJ makes. I bet his pitchers don’t have 3 or 4 wild pitches tonight either.
UGGLA won’t quit. Others I won’t give that concession to.
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
9:25 pm
Miracle at the Ted !!!
Uggla goes deep….
keyLargo
August 31st, 2012
9:25 pm
That Philly catcher probably makes 1/25 of what CJ makes. I bet his pitchers don’t have 3 or 4 wild pitches tonight either.
UGGLA won’t quit. Others I won’t give that concession to.
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
9:25 pm
It was stylish and fine; The Ugglanista Collection….17 large/Jam up and jelly tight Dan got it right.
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
9:25 pm
His name is DAN UGGLA! Now let’s bring in Kimbrel.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
9:25 pm
another meaningless Uggla homer
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
9:25 pm
The difference in this game is that the Phillies catcher blocks the plate to tag a hustling Chipper and Mc Sham fails to block the plate on the tying run.
Well, got to give credit for Uggla for getting one run back. Good work. Too bad you are not more consistent Dan.
Fredo
August 31st, 2012
9:25 pm
if he turns into the Braves version of Adam Dunn … I wouldn’t mind the low avg and tons of strikeouts, especially if it means hitting a timely home run here and there
sid
August 31st, 2012
9:25 pm
about time….how much did that HR cost?
Lee in S GA
August 31st, 2012
9:26 pm
I think they just knocked the last strand of hair off McCann’s head with all of the hi-5ing going on after Uggla’s homer.
keyLargo
August 31st, 2012
9:26 pm
Yeah, it meant so little we’re not tied anymore.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
9:26 pm
Hey, this HR means something.
Now if he can be the Florida version of Uggla is September that would be nice.
Mc Shamm is hopeless.
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
9:26 pm
Uggla does hit two week tease….next two weeks will be 27 K’s…..
Citifield Jones
August 31st, 2012
9:27 pm
nolie,
How is it meaningless? It gave us the lead, didn’t it…
JC Brave
August 31st, 2012
9:28 pm
Nice swing, Bourn.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
9:28 pm
Belated…. UGGLA!
We got Jeff Baker! Like him a lot… wonder whose spot he takes on post-season roster… unless we’re going 2 pitchers shorter, he’s taking Tyler’s spot… that’s not good
Trey
August 31st, 2012
9:28 pm
Citifield, he was being facetious.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
9:28 pm
FCS the guy mighta just won the damn game and y’all still talking crap? Wait till next at bat at least.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
9:28 pm
UGGLA won’t quit. Others I won’t give that concession to.
Keylargo — I give credit that Uggla won’t quit but he is so so frustrating to watch.
At least his defense has been good. I really want him to be as good for the Braves as he was for the Marlins.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
9:28 pm
Bourn with another K.
Jerry
August 31st, 2012
9:28 pm
Good God Almighty!!!!!!! When is the last time Bourn tried to bunt? Makes no sense with his speed.
Sopheee
August 31st, 2012
9:28 pm
Got some whooshin’ going on.
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
9:28 pm
My night just got better
The Rays announced that they have acquired Ben Francisco from the Astros in exchange for a player to be named later.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
9:29 pm
some of y’all would rather a reason to bitch than a win
Sopheee
August 31st, 2012
9:30 pm
chickens
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
9:30 pm
I guess Baker will play for Uggla down the stretch, esp. against lefties (he’s a lefty masher, Uggla isn’t) That is a good thing. Another team-mate for Reed and Maholm… Baker should be comfy here!
Boy, the Braves and Cubs musta loved each other this year…. worked out 3 trades!
nolie
August 31st, 2012
9:30 pm
Prado stops and does his base on balls strip tease
Jerry
August 31st, 2012
9:30 pm
FCS the guy mighta just won the damn game and y’all still talking crap? Wait till next at bat at least.
Can’t do it. Gotta stay in Uggla bashing shape. No letting up now.
LTK
August 31st, 2012
9:30 pm
just an opposite field single here, j-hey
nolie
August 31st, 2012
9:31 pm
I don’t know if Fredi is smart enuff to know that Uggla does not hit lefties well, he is after all a RHed hitter, right??
toast
August 31st, 2012
9:32 pm
always felt leadership is overated regarding personalities. being a leader can be hitting a 3 run homerun in the 8th to win a game. with that said, really wish the team would take on more of prado’s personality. shows emotion, guy is a gamer. almost have to feel the offseason just ate the guy up not being productive and seeing the team falter last september. most of the team takes on chipper’s personality, again not saying that’s a problem. still a guy like harper as a young kid has instilled a attitude with the nationals and veterans as he gives them a element that probably hasn’t been present in a very long time. need a couple of more prado’s on this team from ability to personality
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
9:32 pm
Pretty sure the Baker deal was why Jack Wilson was cut loose….gave him a spot on the 40 man roster today so he is post season eligible……
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
9:34 pm
That was a very timely hit by Dan…just close your eyes and dream of a World with Dan striking 34-35 of those melons.
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
9:34 pm
Well Uggla hasn’t been hitting righties either except once every two weeks………….
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
9:34 pm
Pretty sure the Baker deal was why Jack Wilson was cut loose….gave him a spot on the 40 man roster today so he is post season eligible……
Maybe, but there was space to get Baker on the roster without cutting Wilson… unless they plan on bringing up someone from AA or AAA who isn’t on the 40-man yet… (Gilmartin, maybe?)
LTK
August 31st, 2012
9:35 pm
toast, thought that has been the problem with the braves for years, have the personality of cj instead of someone like Marteen. they’ve played for years just like he cruised into homeplate tonight.
Busch Leaguer
August 31st, 2012
9:35 pm
Everyone says Bourn is a sure thing to go to the Nats ,since his Agent Scott” I am the real GM of the Nats “Boros is pushing it. But which outfielder do the Nats move ,not Harper ,not Morse maybe the Dodgers will take Werth and his 100million contract of their hands ,but I doubt it. I guess they can move Morse to first base and not re- sign LaRoach .
Brava
August 31st, 2012
9:36 pm
Venters? Fredi lives dangerously. I don’t trust the guy this season..
nolie
August 31st, 2012
9:36 pm
Bad Jonny?
Jerry
August 31st, 2012
9:37 pm
Never noticed before but when they bring in Venters, they show “the Shining” on the big screen saying, “Hereeee’s Johnny”
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
9:37 pm
I dislike the decision to go with Venters in the 7th for some reason.
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
9:37 pm
Is Lyle Overby on that 40 man?
Jeff R
August 31st, 2012
9:37 pm
That is very Kenshin Kawakami like. That is what Minor is, a lefthanded Kawakam..
You’re kidding, right? Or into the schnapps?
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
9:37 pm
If we can’t win going lefty, lefty, Kimbrel this season is doomed.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
9:37 pm
Pretty sure the Baker deal was why Jack Wilson was cut loose….gave him a spot on the 40 man roster today so he is post season eligible…truth
I think there was already an opening but I might be wrong
Lee in S GA
August 31st, 2012
9:38 pm
Venters? Fredi lives dangerously. I don’t trust the guy this season..
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yea ..i went I poured myself a stiff one when I saw him come into the game
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
9:38 pm
I don’t know if Fredi is smart enuff to know that Uggla does not hit lefties well, he is after all a RHed hitter, right??
He is…. I hope. He seems to know lots of those stats/splits. If he doesn’t know, and wouldn’t use Baker often, I’m sure FW will remind him
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
9:38 pm
OK Jonny….keep it in the zone away and in and I think we’ll do it tonight.
Tina
August 31st, 2012
9:39 pm
Thanks for arb. Venters will get more next year.
LTK
August 31st, 2012
9:39 pm
janish just continues to do all the right things
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
9:39 pm
Janish made that play…. great job…. the Royals/Brewers SS would’ve gone to 1st… any hit that comes after become a run, ruining Greinke’s ERA… with the Braves, a hit doesn’t necessarily mean a run, meaning that Greinke has a lower ERA, and has another chance to get the out.
sid
August 31st, 2012
9:39 pm
toast and LTK….thank you for telling the truth at the risk of being hated on this blog.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
9:40 pm
You never know which Johnny Venters you are seeing this yr.
So far we have 2 outs so its one more out, but the stuff is not as nasty as it was his first 2 yrs.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
9:42 pm
Is Lyle Overby on that 40 man?
No…. but if the Braves did the right thing, they’d dump Hinske and let Overbay have his spot.
M.V.P.Heyward
August 31st, 2012
9:42 pm
Jonny Venters!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
9:42 pm
Whew.
Brava
August 31st, 2012
9:43 pm
Whew!
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
9:43 pm
“Into the schnapps?”
No, just ‘wincing the night away.’
toast
August 31st, 2012
9:43 pm
LTK, not railing on chipper he’s had a incredible year and doing what he’s done at 40 is mind boggling. still he is not “the guy” this season for the team. i want prado talking to these guys on the steps of the dugout if it ultimately comes down to one game(better not!). it’s a shame uggla or mccann haven’t played up to their capabilities and take on more responsibility for the team’s success. i mean a guy at 40 batting cleanup for a team trying to win a pennant? early in the season chipper was batting 6th, we would be a much better team if one of the other vets stepped up and more balance with chipper batting 6th.
Lee in S GA
August 31st, 2012
9:43 pm
No…. but if the Braves did the right thing, they’d dump Hinske and let Overbay have his spot.
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if this don’t happen something is wrong with the head office
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
9:43 pm
Love me some Venters and EOF against the Phillies.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
9:44 pm
He seems to know lots of those stats/splits..TOBF
you are kidding right? He has said some supremely stupid things over the last coupla years about what hitters on the team are doing
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
9:47 pm
Good post Toast at 9:32
I wish we had a personality lke Prado in the late 90’s and early 2000’s when it might have made a defference in winning it all.
Something in the leadership area was missing after the Justice trade in those halcyon days.
Remember every yr after we got eliminated from the playoffs when you would hear the same things from Chipper, Glavine, Smoltz, Bobby, etc., “We had a good yr, the playoffs are a crap shoot, etc.”
The best leadership personalities we had were in the early yrs of winning when we had Gant, Dieon, Otis Nixon, Justice, Pendelton, those were the teams ATL loved the most. And the fans were turning out big for those teams, 1993 is stilll the record setting team for attendance.
Something happened after that 96 WS where the newer personality of the team could not get over the hump to win it all again.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
9:47 pm
I think Chipper has be great as a leader this year. I have seen him excited and talking more than I think I ever havem, and I have never bought into the fan claim that he is not a leader
Lucky or Good
August 31st, 2012
9:47 pm
So the Braves were in a tight spot! Venters battling Utley late in the game with a man on and Utley tough as usual. Full count. The Atlanta fans in the stand? Doing the freakin’ Wave!
Atlanta doesn’t deserve a winning team. Their fans aren’t smart enough to appreciate them if they were winners!
LTK
August 31st, 2012
9:48 pm
toast, well said!
nolie
August 31st, 2012
9:48 pm
he looks tired some lately though
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
9:48 pm
Hinske has been one guy who has been a disappointment & he had been useful in the past.
I guess the days of Diaz and Hinske will be over after this yr — they were useful guys at one time.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
9:50 pm
you are kidding right? He has said some supremely stupid things over the last coupla years about what hitters on the team are doing
Sure he has, but I’ve also heard him quote Uggla’s stats against a certain pitcher, or Diaz’s…. the thing with BMac/Ross where he said he started Ross cuz he had a better avg. and a HR (Ross had 5 ABs to McCanns 20, both had same avg.) was bad, real bad. But I’m sure that he might know a few of these stats… Hopefully
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
9:50 pm
Can’t resign Baker if we wanted too…. Boras is his agent
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
9:51 pm
At least Mac has hit the ball hard a couple times, but an insurance run is needed.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 31st, 2012
9:51 pm
He’s been squaring up on some balls tonight, anyway…
David from Athens, AL
August 31st, 2012
9:51 pm
I think Mac has hit the ball harder tonight with the glasses!!
keyLargo
August 31st, 2012
9:53 pm
Disgusted – I’m on your side. But he’ll keep striking out trying to hit a 500 ft HR , not a squib over second.
I have to admit any time I/ve been in a slump, I’ve just backed off and tried to hit line drives if front of and between the OFers.
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
9:53 pm
melancholy at-bat wished for this guy
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
9:55 pm
Chipper couldn’t afford to slide into that catcher….his legs and knees are too fragile….
He is still the club house leader and has loads of respect from all the players, young and old……..
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 31st, 2012
9:55 pm
<strong.TOBF the thing with BMac/Ross where he said he started Ross cuz he had a better avg. and a HR (Ross had 5 ABs to McCanns 20, both had same avg.) was bad, real bad.
Yes. Although that was mostly Bowman who was saying that—can’t remember if we had an actual quote from Fredi on that one…
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
9:55 pm
Something wrong with that ball?
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 31st, 2012
9:56 pm
Ah, stupid formatting…
The old old way was so much easier…
Lucky or Good
August 31st, 2012
9:56 pm
Chipper is a shell of the defensive player he used to be. He’s actually looked worse the last couple of weeks than he has all year.
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
9:56 pm
I think Chipper has been disgusted with Fredi for some of his decisions like keeping “running Uggla our there” when he clearly is as lost as a ball in high weeds………
Bronke
August 31st, 2012
9:56 pm
Time for McCann to start producing or he has to be honest and be replaced. Love the guy but we are in a battle down the stretch and no team will roll over for the Braves down the stretch. All hands on deck to to be counted on. Even Bourn might need a few days off. Whatever it takes. Remember there can be only one team standing in the end. Go Braves!
Lucky or Good
August 31st, 2012
9:56 pm
Seems like Chippers defensive lapses lead to runs.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
9:57 pm
Chipper has looked bad at times tonight.
RaleighDawg
August 31st, 2012
9:58 pm
Wonder if Chipper lost that Wiggington grounder in the lights ?
toast
August 31st, 2012
9:59 pm
thanks LTK and disgusted- and yes nolie i agree chipper has been vocal and a leader by example. he’s a great player, not a great leader but a good one. few are. i think u will c martin taking a more vocal role next season for what it’s worth
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
9:59 pm
Simmons has been cleared to resume baseball activities tomorrow… just heard it on the radio, from Ben Ingram
Astral
August 31st, 2012
9:59 pm
some really sucky folks on here…
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
9:59 pm
Atlanta Braves @Braves
Simmons has been cleared by Dr. Lourie for all baseball activities beginning 9/1. He will be re-examined Sunday. Could begin rehab on Tues.
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
9:59 pm
That was a pretty good stop by Brian
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:00 pm
BMac has such a bad arm….
Lucky or Good
August 31st, 2012
10:00 pm
“Wonder if Chipper lost that Wiggington grounder in the lights ?”
Actually Chipper will probably say that Janish called him off late on the Wiggington grounder.
cabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
10:01 pm
Nice throw Mac!!
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
10:01 pm
McCann!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sopheee
August 31st, 2012
10:01 pm
Mactastic.
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
10:01 pm
That was a darned good throw by Brian
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:01 pm
Great throw McC!!!
sukk on that haters
M.V.P.Heyward
August 31st, 2012
10:01 pm
Wow, One of the best throw for McCann.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 31st, 2012
10:01 pm
OUT!! Great throw…
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
10:01 pm
Pierre is a wast of space.
Brava
August 31st, 2012
10:01 pm
Great throw, BMac!
brian
August 31st, 2012
10:01 pm
Now that was a throw by McCann!!!
Citifield Jones
August 31st, 2012
10:02 pm
Mac finally taking some notes from D-Ross
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
10:02 pm
Even a blind catcher catches a runner every once now and then………
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:02 pm
gee, I wonder who Lucky or Good is? Even got a Chumper outta him
relegated to PTV
August 31st, 2012
10:02 pm
“Disgusted” is right on.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:03 pm
McFann: You can write in bold by using the letter b instead of strong… much quicker
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
10:03 pm
@TomahawkMafia……Chipper is in pain and it does show more in the latter part of the game.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:04 pm
Matt Chernoff @RealMattlanta
You can make the case for Eric O’Flaherty being the best set up man in baseball. A great find by Frank Wren in 2009. #Braves
Might be able to sell high… but a great pickup, nonetheless
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
10:04 pm
Mac’s problems have been getting worse since he had that first bout with his eyes a couple of years ago…..has never been the same consistent hitter after the eye/contacts/glasses issue cropped up….
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:06 pm
Poor Uggla… he hit that one hard… well, he got a Big Hit tonight.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:06 pm
Janish!!!!
Brava
August 31st, 2012
10:07 pm
WTG, Janish!
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
10:07 pm
Janish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
10:07 pm
nolie…..remember Red Skelton as Clem Kadittlehopper?
that’s what Uggla looked like on the curve ball ducking away……
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
10:07 pm
….Aumont your….armpit
brian
August 31st, 2012
10:07 pm
959 by braves fan……”.YES
brian
August 31st, 2012
10:08 pm
I still think janish will be a great utility guy for the braves for many years
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:08 pm
Gigantic impact? The only thing gigantic about Francisco is his gut, certainly not his OBP
relegated to PTV
August 31st, 2012
10:09 pm
Yeah, Struggla got a big hit, but he just had to be a dooosh in the process. Didn’t anyone else notice how he pointed to the Phillies dugout after rounding third??? What a jerk.
At least I can *see* my Atlanta Braves tonight, since all the other games are only broadcast on cable. Too bad they’re so sophomoric.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
10:09 pm
Goodness. Does Francisco ever do anything other than strike out when he pinch hits? He strikes out on three pitches pretty frequently too.
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
10:09 pm
Like that concentration/thought modlty displayed by Kimbrel
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:09 pm
Thank you Howard…. such a poor fielder, you are
brian
August 31st, 2012
10:09 pm
Big at bat here for prado
David from Athens, AL
August 31st, 2012
10:09 pm
September is going to be a battle:
Hinske vs Overbay
Pastor vs Baker
Janish vs No body, since Wilson is released
Brava
August 31st, 2012
10:09 pm
Yay for Howard’s fo paw!
tony austin
August 31st, 2012
10:10 pm
Roadrunner hasn’t met a whole lot of pitches he didn’t like.
brian
August 31st, 2012
10:10 pm
Poor play by ryan at 1B
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
10:10 pm
‘modality’
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:10 pm
WTF Yanish?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:10 pm
Gigantic impact? The only thing gigantic about Francisco is his gut, certainly not his OBP
LOL so true… his strikeout total is gigantic as well.
What happened Janish???
RaleighDawg
August 31st, 2012
10:10 pm
Seriously ? They give Rollins an error, but they don’t give one to Chipper on the Wiggington grounder ? Come on….
brian
August 31st, 2012
10:11 pm
Would have been close at home
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
August 31st, 2012
10:11 pm
Janish fell asleep over there.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:11 pm
Guess he’s not a poor fielder anymore… DAMMIT!
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
10:11 pm
Janish did the right thing there.
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
10:12 pm
It’s Kimbrel time
Brava
August 31st, 2012
10:12 pm
Dang!
brian
August 31st, 2012
10:12 pm
That hurts. The only way Howard gets that ball is for it to be hit right at him
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
10:12 pm
More poor luck on balls in play for Prado. He squares up so many balls that hit directly at fielders.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:12 pm
Goodness. Does Francisco ever do anything other than strike out when he pinch hits? He strikes out on three pitches pretty frequently too.
Nope… every time he PH, I predict 3 strikes (2 of the pitches being balls, and him still swinging) and a K. (Almost) Never fails.
Brava
August 31st, 2012
10:13 pm
Kimmeh Time!
brian
August 31st, 2012
10:13 pm
In a different subject, what do you all think pagan’s free agency price will be?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:13 pm
Janish did the right thing there.
Yeah, seems so…. I don’t think he saw the ball very well, and definitely didn’t know how high in the air it was…. he had to look into the lights.
Chas
August 31st, 2012
10:13 pm
Janish…can’t score on that wild pitch. My God! Brian McCann could have scored on that. Way to have your head in the game, Paul.
T-Dawg
August 31st, 2012
10:13 pm
This team is in desperate need for a “every run counts so pay attention and hustle” speech like I have never seen before. No excuses there, Janish.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:13 pm
no he didn’t, not IMO
RaleighDawg
August 31st, 2012
10:14 pm
I promise you – if Chipper had hit the grounder to Rollins, and if he actually ran it out as opposed to his typical loaf down to first, they would have scored it a hit. No wonder Hoss’ stats always look so good.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:14 pm
Kimmeh time!
brian
August 31st, 2012
10:15 pm
Are they going for the announcers curse or what?
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:15 pm
He squares up so many balls that hit directly at fielders….TM
which is why he hits into so many DPs with runners on first so often
brian
August 31st, 2012
10:15 pm
OMG t.ie game
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
10:15 pm
Well damn
Brava
August 31st, 2012
10:16 pm
Oh man, no. Kimmeh.
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
August 31st, 2012
10:16 pm
That was an 0-2 meatball. Kimbrel throws way too many good 0-2 pitches.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:16 pm
whata bitch
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:16 pm
That catch by Howard hurts now…. so does Janish not coming home.
Kimmeh’s rusty from not pitching much last month
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
10:16 pm
It was lame….hope it’s not a real serious factor–good morning, Paul……my sorry little….oh well, we tied, forgot how important insurance is.
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
10:16 pm
How big was Janish sitting at 3rd last inning now?
relegated to PTV
August 31st, 2012
10:17 pm
Uh, WHOOPS
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
10:17 pm
0-2 home run. Geez.
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
August 31st, 2012
10:17 pm
You could draw an X in that K-zone thing they have and that pitch would have been in the center of the X. Kimbrel has to stop that.
T-Dawg
August 31st, 2012
10:17 pm
Sure could have used that gift run Janish. I’ve never see a struggling team like this one just waste so many opportunities.
Jaded
August 31st, 2012
10:17 pm
That’s three blown saves for Kimbrel at Turner Field against the Phiillies dating back to the final game of 2011.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:18 pm
0-2 pitches are “supposed” to be thrown for balls…
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:18 pm
just goes to show, no matter who you are of how fast you throw, location is still important
Sopheee
August 31st, 2012
10:18 pm
Whaaaaat?
M.V.P.Heyward
August 31st, 2012
10:18 pm
Kimbrel has always been mediocre in high-pressure situation.
Just like 2010′ playoff game 3, 2011′ mid-september cards’ game & last game against the Phillies.
toast
August 31st, 2012
10:18 pm
0-2 set up with a pitch at the letters? maybe slider in the dirt? nope, straight down the shoot into MAC’s mitt. he didn’t throw the pitch but the guy behind the plate will never be confused with a rhodes scholar.
cabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
10:18 pm
You could draw an X in that K-zone thing they have and that pitch would have been in the center of the X. Kimbrel has to stop that.
Because Kimmie throws so many pitches down the middle. I mean, he’s given up 20 hits in 48 innings. He totally sucks!
Chas
August 31st, 2012
10:19 pm
CRAIG KIMBREL Join the CHOKE parade. Seems Craig had a few of those during the 2011 collapse. Well done! And so it goes….and goes and goes, and goes.
Thanks again, for the heads up base running in the 8th, Paul Janish.
tony austin
August 31st, 2012
10:19 pm
The offense has wasted many opportunities to just about blow this game open. Not hanging this one on Kimbrel.
Growler
August 31st, 2012
10:20 pm
Is the (annual?) September collapse starting on August 31st this year?
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:20 pm
He totally sucks!…cab
no he doesn’t!!!!!!!
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
10:20 pm
Martin was waving Janish home wasn’t he?
ChattTownBrian
August 31st, 2012
10:20 pm
Oh well, it happens. Just win it here.
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
10:20 pm
Maybe a walk off win will give Braves a boost.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:20 pm
more of the same idiot under different names I see
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
10:21 pm
They will never shake that collapse. Bad things continue to happen to this ballclub. If only they could get one extra hit a night with men in scoring position. That would take much of the pressure off.
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
August 31st, 2012
10:21 pm
Kimbrel better pitch another inning if we don’t score a run here. We can’t go to Martinez in this must win.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:21 pm
Lucas Sims ⚾ @LSims_
What a great first year of professional baseball! Thankful for everything. Next step: Instructional League. Be home soon!
Great 1st year Lucas!
gcs
August 31st, 2012
10:21 pm
Have you ever noticed whenever the Phillies acquire a top-shelf pitcher that he flops fantastically?
Lee, Halladay, Oswalt, Brad Lidge, Joe Blanton, Jose Contreras…
relegated to PTV
August 31st, 2012
10:21 pm
“the truth…” that’s what I saw…
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:22 pm
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
Before that Kratz home run off Craig Kimbrel, opposing hitters on 0-2 counts vs. Kimbrel: 3-for-39, 34 strikeouts.
^^^
Felix
August 31st, 2012
10:22 pm
Was Janish asleep at third? Him sitting back on his heels as the ball rolled well away from home plate really hurt. Dumb.
UNCFAN
August 31st, 2012
10:22 pm
THis Kratz guy is having a career night – between the play at the plate with Chipper and the bomb off Kimbrall. Can’t wait until Ruiz is back in the Phillies lineup…
T-Dawg
August 31st, 2012
10:22 pm
Can’t blame Kimbrel. Take that gift run and the ballgame is over.
ChattTownBrian
August 31st, 2012
10:23 pm
nolie, I know. cab never talks bad about the Braves, but bashes the best closer in baseball. Doesn’t make sense.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:23 pm
lotta Ks but lotta walks too
Lets Go Big J, lets go!
Trey
August 31st, 2012
10:23 pm
Man, I feel bad for Kimbrel.
cabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
10:23 pm
I didn’t think that needed a sarcasm alert…
brian
August 31st, 2012
10:23 pm
Halladay has fought injuries and has been anything but a flop for the Phillies. He has the hardware to prove it
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:24 pm
I mean, he’s given up 20 hits in 48 innings. He totally sucks!
Should be zero hits, ya know. Then he’s good.
Is the (annual?) September collapse starting on August 31st this year?
Annual? It happens once and it’s called annual? WTH
Sopheee
August 31st, 2012
10:24 pm
Let’s walk off. Do something, 10.
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
10:25 pm
CTB – can’t tell if you were serious about not catching her sarcasm, or if I didn’t catch yours…
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:25 pm
neither did I mine
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
August 31st, 2012
10:25 pm
Kimbrel better man up and pitch a 2nd inning.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:25 pm
Was Janish asleep at third? Him sitting back on his heels as the ball rolled well away from home plate really hurt. Dumb.
I saw him go down the line…. not just stand at 3rd…. He decided to come back cuz he didn’t know where the ball was (I think)
brian
August 31st, 2012
10:25 pm
It would have been very close at the plate with janish. Martin hits that ball a foot left or right and janish looks great for keeping the bat in prado’s hands
Sopheee
August 31st, 2012
10:25 pm
Or don’t.
sid
August 31st, 2012
10:26 pm
does the “hall of Famer” really even care?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:26 pm
Let’s go BMac!
brian
August 31st, 2012
10:27 pm
This game is tied because the braves could not get the big hit. 1-10 with RISP and that was chipper being thrown out at home if I remember correctly
relegated to PTV
August 31st, 2012
10:27 pm
Good eye, Freddie…nice!
Growler
August 31st, 2012
10:27 pm
Hence the question mark, “TheOnlyBravesFan”! I hope not! But if they lose, this will be a really discouraging loss, and WILL conjure up images of Kimbrell’s crucial blown saves last year.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:27 pm
but Martin didn’t…
toast
August 31st, 2012
10:27 pm
3 singles and game over
jeffrey d
August 31st, 2012
10:27 pm
Chipper comes up in the bottom of the 9th in a tie game. I hurry to go pee. Next thing I know I hear Chip going crazy about a Chipper Jones homerun.
Of course, it was a flashback.
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
10:28 pm
Janish did the right thing.
His angle, the lights and uncertainty of where the ball went was justifiable reasons not to go.
Say he went despite it and got out, the same would be said that he didn’t get the run or he should have stayed and not taken bat out of Prado’s hands.
brian
August 31st, 2012
10:28 pm
Cab causing trouble around here again? Just speaking the truth 20 hits in 48 innings. I mean how does Kimbrel sleep at night?
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:29 pm
they have been playing Chipper more and he looks tired, see it in his face I think
cabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
10:29 pm
brian-
You know me. The blog trouble maker
relegated to PTV
August 31st, 2012
10:29 pm
yeah jeffrey d…they jinxed ‘im
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:30 pm
this would be a heartbreaker
Sopheee
August 31st, 2012
10:30 pm
I don’t want free baseball in Atlanta.
ChattTownBrian
August 31st, 2012
10:30 pm
Another mcweak at bat for McCann. He needs to get another shot in his mcshoulder.
Growler
August 31st, 2012
10:30 pm
Boy McCann gets a mistake pitch most left-handers could drive and he weakly pops out to end the inning. Yeesh.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:30 pm
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
#Braves fail to score in the 9th, and we’ve got #FreeBaseball in Atlanta. Braves are 6-2 in extras this season…Phils 6-10
Mldtown
August 31st, 2012
10:31 pm
Danny Espinosa hit one off Kimbrel on a 99-mph fastball, too. I suppose he’d better work on getting it up to 100.
T-Dawg
August 31st, 2012
10:31 pm
At least Mac has hit the ball hard tonight. There’s your warm glass of milk.
Jay Dubu
August 31st, 2012
10:31 pm
Heyward has had an unproductive nught at the plate.
Astral
August 31st, 2012
10:31 pm
baloney, you go for the run , wasn’t he being waved in by Prado
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
August 31st, 2012
10:32 pm
LOL Martinez instead of Kimbrel in a must win game. VINTAGE FREDI.
Chas
August 31st, 2012
10:32 pm
9th inning Brian McCann…as he sucked all of August, 2011, he has sucked all through August of 2012. He has been consistent, hasn’t he? Collapse, 2012.
Choke choke choke
ChattTownBrian
August 31st, 2012
10:32 pm
Venice, just sarcasm.
UGH I don’t know about this one, people.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
10:32 pm
This is about the time of the yr that Kimbrell falls apart — happened last September and it is happening again.
He deserves to be Booed.
Braves come up with another stinking loss tonight again and again. And I am sure they will lose timmorrow.
Jay Dubu
August 31st, 2012
10:32 pm
Braves have used their best pitchers already, and now the game is on the line. This would could get ugly, and kick off September in a very bad way.
jeffrey d
August 31st, 2012
10:32 pm
I hope Charlie Manuel hasn’t talked to Shaun
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:32 pm
nah he needs to work on keeping outta the middle of the plate
Rick C
August 31st, 2012
10:33 pm
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ, dude Kimbrel just pitched the last inning and gave up the lead.
relegated to PTV
August 31st, 2012
10:33 pm
Where is Kimbrel…what the crap
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
10:34 pm
Kratz > than Mc Shamm
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:34 pm
Disgusted: After that win in SF last week, you said you’d never call the Braves bumbs again, and wouldn’t say they deserve to be booed. What’s happened?
CMart scares me here…. middle of the friggin order. At least Heyward saved him from a double there.
relegated to PTV
August 31st, 2012
10:34 pm
Rick C…yes, but he sat down the remaining batters with no problemo…
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
10:35 pm
Not getting hits with RISP did cost the Braves and they deserved the loss.
As far as I am concerned this one is over bunch of chokers.
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
August 31st, 2012
10:35 pm
@RICK
Kimbrel is our best pitcher left. He should be in the game in this must win game.
No lefty against Howard and Utley?
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
10:35 pm
TOBF — The are BUMBS again & yes, C Martinez gives me the willies.
Jerry
August 31st, 2012
10:35 pm
Of all the ways the Braves have managed to lose ballgames this year, they may lose one from an surprising source.
Brava
August 31st, 2012
10:35 pm
Dang it.
relegated to PTV
August 31st, 2012
10:35 pm
Balk!???
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:35 pm
nah he needs to work on keeping outta the middle of the plate
Throw his 0-2 pitches for a ball… not in the strike zone.
BALK? WTF! Geez… This sure hurts…. CMart sure scares me here, I said
sid
August 31st, 2012
10:35 pm
this team is one big mental case….pitiful.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 31st, 2012
10:36 pm
Yeah, you can blame Kimbrel….
This is what he does when we can least afford it. Frustrating.
Of course, the other chokers can share in it.
Vabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
10:36 pm
looks like were headed for another collapse.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:36 pm
I know this was a blown save, but this is an example of why you do not normally use your closer in a non-win situation. you are at the mercy of your lesser relievers if you have not won the game.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
10:36 pm
You have a bunch of slugs in the lineup who cannot his with RISP.
It cost us last yr and will cost us again. Bunch of chokers.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:36 pm
And the runner is advanced…. damn.
Need to keep them from scoring, don’t want to face Paps.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:37 pm
They’re gonna try to double up Pierre? Hope it works…
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
August 31st, 2012
10:37 pm
Braves hitters could take some tips from Utley. He has two smart plays that are going to win the game for the phillies.
Vabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
10:37 pm
gotta love seeing heyward and mccann going 0 for 10.
No Flag Since Lemke
August 31st, 2012
10:37 pm
Here’s an idea to save wear and tear on our position players, catcher, etc. If it comes to the point where we must use Martinez, just have Fredi go out and forfeit the game. Result is the same either way.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
10:37 pm
Kimbrell did not do the job tonight but this L was a team effort.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
10:38 pm
I am a Phillies fan now.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 31st, 2012
10:38 pm
And I blame Fredi for using Kimbrel in a save situation…..
Chas
August 31st, 2012
10:38 pm
Martinez is just doing what he can to show that he too, is a part of the Atlanta CHOKE TEAM. Do what you can, Christian, to show that you belong on this team.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:38 pm
CMart been hit hard in August…. 4.61 ERA with a .291/.322/.400/.722 oppo. stat line.
TBbravesfan
August 31st, 2012
10:38 pm
old time braves are back.
jeffrey d
August 31st, 2012
10:38 pm
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ, dude Kimbrel just pitched the last inning and gave up the lead.
I can’t tell if you’re serious or just trolling. I hope it’s trolling. Any manager who wouldn’t pitch Kimbrel with a 1 run lead should be fired.
Rick C
August 31st, 2012
10:39 pm
You guys need to get used to the fact that they don’t use Kimbrel for multiple innings.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 31st, 2012
10:39 pm
TOBF You can write in bold by using the letter b instead of strong… much quicker
Oh, I know—thanks! But my fingers are trained for “strong”, don’t know how they’d feel about a switch…
I just sometimes don’t hold the shift key down long enough when in a hurry…
Who Me?
August 31st, 2012
10:39 pm
good thing this is still August, they still suck.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:39 pm
goof 4 u Disgusted, go find their blog and enjoy
Rick C
August 31st, 2012
10:39 pm
jeffrey d, not what I was saying at all.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
10:39 pm
The wa things are going it will be a challenge to hang on to second in the division never mind the post season.
Bronke
August 31st, 2012
10:39 pm
Times like this I wish we had a different manager. Don’t want to live last year all over again!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:39 pm
Wow, Pierre with such a dumb AB
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
10:40 pm
nolie….If you have seen the closeups of Chipper in the past couple of weeks he has huge bags under his eyes……makes him look older than 40….
Bravefaninok
August 31st, 2012
10:40 pm
C=Mart….huge K!!!
The A Bomb
August 31st, 2012
10:40 pm
One of the few times things locked in for the robot and the team let his circuitry down.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:40 pm
Geez, I love CMart…
Jaded
August 31st, 2012
10:40 pm
CHOKE
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:40 pm
Like I said
Brava
August 31st, 2012
10:40 pm
Ballgame!
Sopheee
August 31st, 2012
10:40 pm
evacuation time
relegated to PTV
August 31st, 2012
10:40 pm
The party’s over
ncbravesfan90
August 31st, 2012
10:40 pm
Anybody really surprised though? I mean really
Trey
August 31st, 2012
10:41 pm
Ouch.
Bravefaninok
August 31st, 2012
10:41 pm
Ballgame!!!!!!!!!!!
The A Bomb
August 31st, 2012
10:41 pm
WHO IN THE HELL IS CALLING PITCHES?
JC Brave
August 31st, 2012
10:41 pm
Aaaaaaand the Braves lose…
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 31st, 2012
10:41 pm
Way to go, guys….nice pitch there, martinez! Lol
Who Me?
August 31st, 2012
10:41 pm
Unbelievable. Martinez grooves a fastball on the first pitch to their hottest hitter??? What the ?
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
10:41 pm
This sucks.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
10:41 pm
C. Mattinez sucks he has no business in MLB.
This Braves team is the worst in all of MLB I would trade em all straight up for the Houston Astros right now.
The Astros are in beter shape than the Braves. This is a disgrace.
Bronke
August 31st, 2012
10:41 pm
Auggggggghhhhhhhh! I just said it!!!!’mm
Vabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
10:41 pm
1st time the site has let me post comments from my phone.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:41 pm
Though, righties hit Cmart better than lefties… but he’s still not the guy I want in that situation…
CMart continues his awful pitching from August… Damn, this sukks.
ncbravesfan90
August 31st, 2012
10:42 pm
Phillies hit mistakes, the hanging slider there, we miss mistakes. Better get some bullpen help from that wavier wire before midnight.
Who Me?
August 31st, 2012
10:42 pm
September starts tomorrow, remember we’re not going to fold this year…LOL….
The A Bomb
August 31st, 2012
10:42 pm
Choketember starts a day early.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
10:42 pm
Typical C. Martinez.
Capt.Mudd
August 31st, 2012
10:42 pm
man what a pity….cmart, cmart…..mistakes ain’t smart
September
August 31st, 2012
10:42 pm
Hello Braves! Remember me?
Oh! I see you started without me!
Jaded
August 31st, 2012
10:43 pm
At least we can distract ourselves with football while the Braves pull another el foldo.
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
10:43 pm
too much………..Martinez again…..
Nats win 10-0 and we give another away…….
only good thing about it s St. Louis was the loser to the Nats…………
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
10:43 pm
I challenge all the Braves fans to go out to the park tommorrow and Boo these lousy BUMBS when they take the field.
I plan on doing so.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 31st, 2012
10:43 pm
Well, poop…
UNCFAN
August 31st, 2012
10:43 pm
Looks like the old Phillies…good thing they buried themselves while Utley and Howard were out…
brian
August 31st, 2012
10:43 pm
Great job cmart. Helping the phillies get to 2 and 55 when down in the 9th
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:43 pm
looks like were headed for another collapse.
No we’re not.
Disgusted: How many teams have you been a fan of this year? 20?
Bronke
August 31st, 2012
10:44 pm
De ja vu all over again. Wake me up when September ends!
relegated to PTV
August 31st, 2012
10:44 pm
A Bomb: “…a day early?” What about that road trip?
RaleighDawg
August 31st, 2012
10:44 pm
1-9 with runners in scoring position tonight…the Braves didn’t deserve the win anyways…
RaleighDawg
August 31st, 2012
10:44 pm
1-9 with runners in scoring position tonight…the Braves didn’t deserve the win anyways…
RaleighDawg
August 31st, 2012
10:44 pm
1-9 with runners in scoring position tonight…the Braves didn’t deserve the win anyways…
Vabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
10:44 pm
talk about a complete joke. laughable effort tonight. getting handled by bad teams.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
10:44 pm
C. Martinez is just not a very smart pitcher he is the Yunel of relief pitching.
sid
August 31st, 2012
10:44 pm
at the end of the season …..which will be soon….first…fire that idiot manager…..second….give that washed-up, uninspired money hungry 3rd baseman a nice cake for his retirement…third….blow up this team of chokers and start over. they are horrendous.
TBbravesfan
August 31st, 2012
10:45 pm
don’t think kimbrel would have done that
TBbravesfan
August 31st, 2012
10:45 pm
don’t think kimbrel would have done that
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:45 pm
were we leading after 6? If so, there goes that nice figure too
Who Me?
August 31st, 2012
10:45 pm
it’s not just CMart, its Durbin/Avalon et al…you could start a law firm with these losers….
The A Bomb
August 31st, 2012
10:45 pm
This is what happens when you have a manager who mindf(*&cks half the team.
Guaranteed most of these guys HATE playing for this control freak.
DOB Needs To Ask TOUGHER QUESTIONS!
August 31st, 2012
10:45 pm
Folks, you have to tip your cap twice here. One tip of the cap goes to Kimbrel. He was the only Braves that was “dominant” and why be different? So he knows that and goes out and does a BRAVO and throws a hammer sammich for a tying home run! Atta boy, Kimbry!
And a final tip of the old capper goes to the Phillies. I mean…folks…they don’t have much to play for. And yet, they saw the Natsies were winning and they are doing their part to not let the Bravos go after a division title! Misery loves company but who knew! And to THAT, we say ATTA BOY PHILLIES!
Folks, go here if you can, please! http://forextradesimulator.com/
Chas
August 31st, 2012
10:46 pm
CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE
Your 2012 Atlanta Braves, ladies and gentleman.
CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE
The 2012 COLLAPSE is in good order.
Spit it out Atlanta. You are a team of LOSERS. What a joke. How so many players can piss down their leg, in the same game, is amazing. Only your 2012 Atlanta Braves are capable of this big a CHOKE JOB.
They do what they do best…your Atlanta Braves…
CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE
BFChris27
August 31st, 2012
10:46 pm
Fredi should have taken Minor out sooner.
Dum-Bass
August 31st, 2012
10:46 pm
How many would have felt much more comfortable with Kimbrel still in there in the 10th even though he gave up the homer in the 9th? Yeh, I thought so, me too! If my wife can call me the “3 minute man”, I guess I can start calling CK the “3 out man”. He is a “specialist”. I hope he is unionized.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
10:46 pm
The Phillies are a better team than the Braves.
I doubt this team wins 5 more games the rest of the way.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:46 pm
.285/.315/.427/.741
Opponents stat line against CMart this year…. he doesn’t need to be pitching in high leverage situations. And he definitely doesn’t need to come back next year at a cost of 1.2mil for this.
Braves are 63-0 when leading after 8 this year…. gotta come back tonight against a toughie, Papelbon. Let’s do this!
TBbravesfan
August 31st, 2012
10:47 pm
no joe this crowd is not stuned we are used to this.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:47 pm
stick it sid, you old Chipper hater, you
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 31st, 2012
10:47 pm
Blah…if the game was gonna take this long, the least the Braves could do is win—was looking forward to going to bed early at last. Didn’t happen…
Not to mention there’s certain things we may find out that can’t be found out till the game is over and I want to know 3 hours ago…
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 31st, 2012
10:47 pm
I predicted a phillies sweep….
Underway. Sigh.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
10:47 pm
This is the worst run franchise is all of major league sports.
relegated to PTV
August 31st, 2012
10:47 pm
Bottom of the lineup…and I’m talkin’ *bottom*
No Flag Since Lemke
August 31st, 2012
10:47 pm
Mr. Wren, why is this man on a major league roster?
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
10:48 pm
Did anyone really think Uggla’s home run was going to mean anything?
Busch Leaguer
August 31st, 2012
10:48 pm
Fredi,
It’s freakin Deja Vu ,the hisssing sound is the air coming out of the Braves playoff baloon.Exit stage left the swoon is on. Guess Chipper should have hit that Phillies catcher a little harder.More likely Chipper will stiffen up tonight and sit out tomorrow’s game.
T-Dawg
August 31st, 2012
10:48 pm
Can’t defend a loss like this.
sid
August 31st, 2012
10:49 pm
nolie the truth hurts you loser.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:49 pm
were we leading after 6? If so, there goes that nice figure too
I think so… wonder who performed the jinx tonight.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:49 pm
Well, damn
Amanda Comak @acomak
There was more than one #nats player in the clubhouse shouting out “He got him!!!” when Mayberry’s HR cleared the fence in Atlanta.
yep
August 31st, 2012
10:50 pm
September has started a day early!
NO MORE FREDI
August 31st, 2012
10:50 pm
I smell September coming.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:51 pm
that was cold, truth….
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 31st, 2012
10:51 pm
Yeah, gee! Now what—do we have 3 whole losses when leading after 6 to go with our 60-some-odd wins?
Pathetic. Why are they even gonna play out the season?…
Who Me?
August 31st, 2012
10:51 pm
Hey Sid – while you’re writing CJ off to retirement, send McCann and Uggla packing too. Let’s free up some salary space and go shopping for a few great players. Just for fun, bring Gattis up for a sip of coffee for September and sit McCann for about a month. Gattis and Ross can split the catching duties, can’t be any worse than McCann up there.
sid
August 31st, 2012
10:51 pm
pahtetic garbage losers.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:51 pm
Mark Zuckerman @MarkZuckerman
Plenty of applause in Nats clubhouse when Mayberry homered to put Braves behind in 10th.
Let’s go Janish… get on base kid.
September
August 31st, 2012
10:51 pm
Chipper gets thrown out at the plate loafing from second base. One run.
Janish stays at third instead of scoring on what should have been a wild pitch. Two runs.
Kimbrel throws a slider strike one to a guy looking for a fastball. Makes him look sick.
Kimbrel throws a slider strike two to a guy looking for a fastball. Makes him look sick.
Kimbrel throws a fastball 0-2 to a guy looking fastball all the way when he looked sick on the slider and BOOM! Ballgame!
Braves aren’t good enough or smart enough to play lax baseball and expect to win.
Their slack play cost them the game tonight.
Vabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
10:51 pm
phillies just come in our house and take care of business. were playing like we have a playoff spot locked down or something.
ncbravesfan90
August 31st, 2012
10:51 pm
Ball was only 6 inches inside on Uggla….tough luck
The A Bomb
August 31st, 2012
10:51 pm
ANY TIME Gonzalez starts making moves before the 7th inning it doesn’t usually end well.
ZERO creativity. Unless, of course, it’s written down 24 hours prior. He is outmanaged and that proves how good this team COULD be.
But most of the team plays like they hate playing for this guy.
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
10:52 pm
Uggla………….the K-Man
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:52 pm
Yanish bobbed back up over 200 for a day or two anyway….
sid
August 31st, 2012
10:52 pm
who me? they need to go.sadly, it likely will not happen.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:52 pm
sid the jerk, I see.
McFann: Those 3 losses mean the world… more important than the wins…. facts don’t matter
NO MORE FREDI
August 31st, 2012
10:53 pm
I called it. Told you not playing playoff type baseball for a run in the first was going to hurt. Fredi is clueless. Bet tomorrow he throws out a funky lineup like that will be the answer. You suck Fredi. There is no answer for that.
monty
August 31st, 2012
10:53 pm
Sad…crunch time and they are faltering again. Major failure on Minor to shut them down after given the lead, failure to get add-on runs and failure of KImbrell to give that sweet a pitch with 2 strikes, and failure by CM. Sad night.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:53 pm
sid, you wouldn’t know a baseball truth if it came up and introduced itself
ncbravesfan90
August 31st, 2012
10:53 pm
“Uggla………….the K-Man”
Also, the man who put the Braves ahead in the 6th……..
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 31st, 2012
10:53 pm
Boooooooooo!!
Powder Blue
August 31st, 2012
10:54 pm
The Atlanta Braves are choking. We’re all quite familiar with how this script reads.
TBbravesfan
August 31st, 2012
10:54 pm
who cares chip
Vabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
10:54 pm
pretty bad when were considered a top team but were getting clowned and all the tweet ragging on us about the nationals gaining ground every night.
Busch Leaguer
August 31st, 2012
10:54 pm
Braves Fans are you ready for some Football.
sid
August 31st, 2012
10:54 pm
September….be careful to critic the great Chipper…..you’ll be called a hater.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:55 pm
September (or whoever you really are)…. what if Kimbrel throws another slider and the guy gets a hit, possibly a HR… then everyone is blaming him for not mixing up his pitches. Can’t have it both ways. I didn’t mind the FB being thrown, just pick a different location…. like low and away for a ball.
relegated to PTV
August 31st, 2012
10:55 pm
Struggla isn’t pointing to the Phil’s dugout now…
ncbravesfan90
August 31st, 2012
10:55 pm
Mayberry doing it all tonight, as he usual does against the Braves.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:55 pm
Hinske? Game over
Jerry
August 31st, 2012
10:55 pm
Yessir, gonna be a sweep I do believe. The collapse is a coming.
ChattTownBrian
August 31st, 2012
10:55 pm
I’m Mayberry’d out!
sid
August 31st, 2012
10:56 pm
nolie keep your head up your a–
Trey
August 31st, 2012
10:56 pm
sid, you may want to reconsider butting heads with nolie. He knows a lot about this game.
Bronke
August 31st, 2012
10:56 pm
Hey Fredi doesn’t this look familiar?
Dum-Bass
August 31st, 2012
10:56 pm
Erick Hinske being the “last hope” somehow reminds me of the captain being the last man on the Titanic.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:56 pm
you always take every opportunity to rip Chipper, thus you are a Chipper-hater. pretty elementary there sid old buddy
Trey
August 31st, 2012
10:56 pm
“.be careful to critic the great Chipper”
I think you mean critique.
TBbravesfan
August 31st, 2012
10:56 pm
swangski
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 31st, 2012
10:57 pm
Hinske?
Good grief…
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
10:57 pm
@Vabravesfan…
Co-Sign on that 1051 post
This Game will cost us in the final weeks, Bank On It!
sid
August 31st, 2012
10:57 pm
enough time wasted on this crap outta here
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:57 pm
Braves Fans are you ready for some Football.
Not really, I don’t get fully into football until the baseball season is over. Any more questions?
T-Dawg
August 31st, 2012
10:57 pm
Can’t stomach another collapse especially when I don’t see the team giving 100%. Very disappointed.
Powder Blue
August 31st, 2012
10:57 pm
“The collapse is a coming.”
Situation normal.
the truth...
August 31st, 2012
10:57 pm
nothing more to say….hate to go to bed with that sick feeling in the gut after you watched another give away…
stizz
August 31st, 2012
10:57 pm
This team may have wasted two years of all world talent because of one man. We’ll be lucky if it takes them less than a week to recover from this loss.
Trey
August 31st, 2012
10:58 pm
sid, so you can get back to your p*rn?
nolie
August 31st, 2012
10:58 pm
wow,look how nice and white Hinske’s pants are…..
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
10:58 pm
Sometimes this team makes me want to sob.
relegated to PTV
August 31st, 2012
10:58 pm
Waaamp whahhhh
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 31st, 2012
10:58 pm
Critic…..lol
TBbravesfan
August 31st, 2012
10:58 pm
did not stun them chip
Jay Dubu
August 31st, 2012
10:58 pm
This one was a team loss. Looks like they’re hung over from the 10 game road trip. Pitching wasn’t there tonight, and no clutch hitting. The way that Doc pitched, this game should have been a blowout.
The two lefties scare e. The Braves could find themselves with a 4 losing streak as they step into September.
Frdei, you might want to shine up that Harley so that you can ride off into the sunset, and away from the Braves dugout….forever!!!!
Bronke
August 31st, 2012
10:58 pm
The worst part of it is, people expect the Braves to collapse because they set the standard!
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
10:58 pm
Trey
“sid, you may want to reconsider butting heads with nolie. He knows a lot about this game.”
Who Cares, Dude is a Total ####
M.V.P.Heyward
August 31st, 2012
10:58 pm
Ballgame.
I’ll take 1 out of 3. No sweep please.
ncbravesfan90
August 31st, 2012
10:58 pm
“Not really, I don’t get fully into football until the baseball season is over. Any more questions?”
Just hold down the excitement for baseball, a la last season….
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
10:58 pm
Hinske with another failure of an AB… can’t we drop him yet.
We lose a few games and people fear another collapse. It’s normal to lose games, sometimes 2-3 in a row. We’ll be fine. We’re not collapsing. We will get into the playoffs, hopefully as the #1 WC…. division hopes seem to be slipping.
Tina
August 31st, 2012
10:59 pm
Braves are LOSERS. Janish should of tried to score on that wild pitch because there wasnt a Brave going to get a hit with runners in scoring position. When they fire Freddi kick Snitkers ass to the worthless bum. Phils sweep Braves as Nats sweep Cards. Again will never have family go to game with Freddi . Dodgers and Cards win wildcard as Wren blows up Braves this winter. Nice going Joe Braves will not pick up ground on Nats you ass they are going to beat us by 10 games or more as we cant beat teams under 500 in Sept. Are bench is one of the worst in baseball but these stupid managers have to go righty against a lefty and a lefty against a righty crap. FIRE freddi you watch LEE and Hamels will kick are asses
chuck
August 31st, 2012
10:59 pm
The fall started early this year. You can’t fire the entire team but we can and should fire the manager.
Jerry
August 31st, 2012
10:59 pm
Our vaunted bullpen gives up 3 runs and theirs gives up nothing. They get rid of Victorino and Pence and still have enough to beat Atlanta.
The A Bomb
August 31st, 2012
10:59 pm
I do remember a time when a guy like Gonzalez might have been appreciated strictly on his managerial record.
But I do not remember a time when a manager 30 games ABOVE .500 over 1.5 appears to be so overmatched. Braves really do need a change to let these talented guys breathe. Gonzalez is not the guy.
Felix
August 31st, 2012
10:59 pm
Man. Sure glad we are doing so well against these sub .500 teams. So the Braves choked again against the Phillies. There were multiple “chokes” in tonight’s game by so many Braves. I guess we can say that the choke tonight was a team effort. But Janish wears the goat horns for the biggest brain cramp.
UNCFAN
August 31st, 2012
10:59 pm
As crazy as this might sound…watch out for the Phillies in the wild card race…
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 31st, 2012
10:59 pm
TOBF—
Oh yeah—I always forget that rule…
Ah well…crummy game. That happens…time for bed! Will be looking for BMac news via iTouch…Night, all!
Growler
August 31st, 2012
10:59 pm
Points on the closer:
Without Kimbrel’s performance this year… the Braves aren’t leading the Wild Card. But…. he has YET to prove he can close out big, clutch games down the stretch. And with their recent struggles and the Phillies rotation set up the way it is this weekend, don’t tell me this game wasn’t one of those. Let’s hope that changes… immediately.
He’s only pitched 48 innings this year. Once or twice this season you have to throw out “the book” and put him back in for a second inning, and this was one of those times. I know it’s a long season, but Gonzalez far too often doesn’t put his team in the best position to win. This was another one of those games.
Jaded
August 31st, 2012
11:00 pm
These guys are a bunch of choking dogs.
Four wins in the last 13 years, starting at around the same time they folded last year. Losing three out of four to non-contending teams, just like they did so often last September.
This is the same team that lost its final six games at home in 2009 with a playoff spot on the line. This is the same team that held a 3 game lead in the division on September 1, 2010 and ended up finishing six games out before losing in the first round of the playoffs in appalling fashion. This is the same team that authored the worst collapse in NL history in 2011.
I shudder to think about how 2012 is going to end. Chokers don’t change their stripes.
Busch Leaguer
August 31st, 2012
11:00 pm
TOBF
The problem was not that Kimbrel threw a fast ball ,it was the location .Dead down the middle and straight ,no movement.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
11:00 pm
Trey @ 1058
Bye sid, ain’t gonna miss ya… don’t need to come back ever. Don’t let the door hit your @rse on the way out.
chuck
August 31st, 2012
11:00 pm
McCann needs to go on the DL and get his shoulder fixed. Going 0 for 5 every night is’t helping anybody.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
11:00 pm
now now tommyhawkin you bifg fat lying piece of poopoo, that is just no way to talk about your superiors
Powder Blue
August 31st, 2012
11:00 pm
“The worst part of it is, people expect the Braves to collapse because they set the standard!”
And they’ll willingly oblige us.
ncbravesfan90
August 31st, 2012
11:01 pm
“As crazy as this might sound…watch out for the Phillies in the wild card race…”
For real, creeping up in the rearview mirror…
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
11:01 pm
Jay Dubu
“This one was a team loss. Looks like they’re hung over from the 10 game road trip.”
C’mon man…They had they day off yesterday to collect their minds….Gotta Win the Next Two, Nuff Said…And this offense while they may score some, they don’t hit with R.I.S.P.
Gotta be able to excel at that in big games against good teams
The A Bomb
August 31st, 2012
11:01 pm
And BTW pitch calling was AWFUL.
If it was McCann — so be it. He was awful then. Garbage selection.
MVPrado14
August 31st, 2012
11:01 pm
Remember this game as the one that officially started the Braves journey to collapse 2012
nolie
August 31st, 2012
11:02 pm
nah, The Great Expensive BoSox set the standard
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
11:02 pm
Yeh, I don’t really like Kimbrel closing vs the Phillies, was confident in EOF and Venters, but crap happens. That one is all on Craig. Team is collapsing. Get used to it.
JC Brave
August 31st, 2012
11:02 pm
What a downer…
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
11:02 pm
There is no reason for Eric Kratz and John Mayberry to kill the Braves. Mayberry is an out machine and Kratz was gifted an 0-2 fastball down the middle.
monty
August 31st, 2012
11:02 pm
Hinski getting more mileage out of one AB a long time ago than any player should. Can’t cover LF and can’t do any real damage any more.
Jerry
August 31st, 2012
11:02 pm
One other thing to look at tonight is that we only scored on homers. We swing for the fences. Helluva mindset.
September Swoon
August 31st, 2012
11:03 pm
Forgot the rest of the moniker.
Ok, I’ll give Kimbrel some slack on the blown save, but can’t give Chipper’s loafing play or Janish not scoring on a ball halfway to the Braves dugout a pass.
I repeat, Braves aren’t good enough to win not using their heads or giving 100% effort.
MVPrado14
August 31st, 2012
11:03 pm
2-5 homestand here we come!
Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2012
11:03 pm
You guys have it all wrong. The collapse started two weeks ago against the Dodgers. The Braves have been a different team ever since that night they had the walk off win against the Dodgers two weeks ago.
Clint Eastwood
August 31st, 2012
11:03 pm
“When someone doesnt do their job, You have to let’em go” !
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 31st, 2012
11:03 pm
The collapse is indeed underway….
Makes me really sad.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
11:03 pm
Gotta be Hinske’s last year at least
Chas
August 31st, 2012
11:03 pm
The Phillies sweep is in order. The Braves CHOKE this night was shared by many…a true team effort. Shortly, it will be September…and the results for these Braves, will be the same as September 2011. The last chapter of another Braves collapse has begun. The Braves are who they are. Many of the same players, the same manager, the same team officers. The result will also be the same. And why not? They are who they are. CHOKERS, HEADCASES, and LOSERS.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
11:03 pm
Just hold down the excitement for baseball, a la last season…
Okay, will do…. I’m a true Braves fan, and an all-around baseball fan…. I don’t mind. The Braves will not collapse this year, I’m fairly sure.
Dum-Bass
August 31st, 2012
11:04 pm
Another loss to another sub .500 team. What was it you guys were saying about “beating up on ” those teams?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
11:04 pm
Those guys are just too good..
ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
From Elias: For the first time in Expos/Nationals franchise history, they have reached 80 wins before September.
Vabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
11:05 pm
boy that would be embarrassing if we missed the playoffs again. would have to be the axe for fredi and wren. our organization shouldnt accept another non playoff season.
Astral
August 31st, 2012
11:05 pm
They are who they are. CHOKERS, HEADCASES, and LOSERS. @Chas
yes you and the rest like you are exactly that
ncbravesfan90
August 31st, 2012
11:05 pm
“Okay, will do…. I’m a true Braves fan, and an all-around baseball fan…. I don’t mind. The Braves will not collapse this year, I’m fairly sure.”
I hope they don’t either, but the streaky offense doesn’t give me a good feeling at all…..
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
11:05 pm
Jerry
“One other thing to look at tonight is that we only scored on homers. We swing for the fences. Helluva mindset.”
Co-Sign, They Have had that mindset since Mid August, and that is not gonna win games against good teams…It feels like Bobby-Ball again…Gotta Start playing ABC Baseball, I have been saying that for weeks
Growler
August 31st, 2012
11:06 pm
The only fairly sure thing “TheOnlyBravesFan,” is you have no idea if they’ll choke or not.
Which is not the worst, but not good, either.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
11:06 pm
Team is collapsing. Get used to it.
NO.
Gotta be Hinske’s last year at least
In the league or for the Braves? I thought he was done last year, was shocked that he came back.
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
11:08 pm
Not gonna win two straight vs Hamels and Lee. So another lost series. This team is going to need help to make the playoffs, they can’t do it on their own.
stizz
August 31st, 2012
11:08 pm
Don’t worry guys, we’ll get another disingenuous letter from JS along with the front office telling us we still finished with a winning record to comfort us.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
11:08 pm
Dum-Bass
“Another loss to another sub .500 team. What was it you guys were saying about “beating up on ” those teams?”
The Phillies are better thank most on here think…And take it to the Bank that they are gonna get payback for getting swept twice and the Braves ending their season in July
They are not gonna roll over and Play Flat, They are still in The Braves heads. They have owned the Braves in Sept. Games since 2006
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
11:08 pm
All you tools that are prepping for a collapse, read this and follow the advice
Matt Chernoff @RealMattlanta
Some #Braves fans are the funniest bunch ever. With every loss the freak out begins. If u are so confident of a collapse don’t watch.
Take your pessimism and sukk it, or stick it you know where.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
11:08 pm
They deserved to be booed, huh disgusted?
Trey
August 31st, 2012
11:09 pm
Those BUMBS deserve to be booed. BOOO. Right Disgusted?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
11:10 pm
would have to be the axe for fredi and wren.
Fredi… Wren has done a good job stockpiling talent, can’t see the Braves letting him go. He hasn’t even gotten to pick his own manager yet!
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
11:10 pm
MFin04
“Not gonna win two straight vs Hamels and Lee. So another lost series. This team is going to need help to make the playoffs, they can’t do it on their own.”
No Hope at all?
Jaded
August 31st, 2012
11:11 pm
“Take your pessimism and sukk it, or stick it you know where.
Pattern recognition and pessimism are not the same thing. We saw the Braves choke at the end of the 2009, 2010 and 2011 seasons. We’re now 4-9 over the last 13 games. Fearing another collapse makes logical sense when using the past as a guide.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
11:11 pm
Frank ain’t likely going anywhere for a while. Fredi, maybe so , maybe not
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
11:11 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
“All you tools that are prepping for a collapse, read this and follow the advice
Matt Chernoff @RealMattlanta
Some #Braves fans are the funniest bunch ever. With every loss the freak out begins. If u are so confident of a collapse don’t watch.
Take your pessimism and sukk it, or stick it you know where.”
OUCH
The A Bomb
August 31st, 2012
11:12 pm
They’re not chokers. They’re not losers. They’re very talented.
But they’re being mind&*^cked by this control-freak manager who can’t adjust to the speed of games. Those of you who say a manager has little to do with wins or losses — here’s a classic example of how a manager can kill a team’s culture. Look at all the players who’ve digressed under his rule. Even his godson. It’s a joke already.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
11:12 pm
pattern recognition? You mean like the Nats the last however many years?
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
11:12 pm
Tomahawkin – Nope not with this garbage. I mean Janish should have put them up 2 runs but refused to score for some reason.
Maybe we beat Lee but I don’t seem them beating Hamels, and no way they beat them both. Just don’t see it happening. The collapse really feels imminent.
Busch Leaguer
August 31st, 2012
11:12 pm
The Braves were 1 for 9 with runners in scoring position and that was the play Chipper was out running into Kratz.Braves in last 14 game have a better record against teams with record above .500 (4-6) compared to sub .500 teams (1-3). 5 and 9 overall at this pace the Braves will finish with 85 or 86 wins and miss the playoffs again this year.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
11:12 pm
Tomahawk is right that this started in that Dodger series.
The Braves are what, 4-9 in their last 13. This is a collapse.
Now, where are the apologists who say they cannot do anything wrong.
Lets face it, we are NEVER going to have a championship in ATL, not with the Braves, the hopelessly mediocre Hawks, the Falcons or the Dawgs. All our teams will find a way to disappoint us.
I say this again, the Winnipeg Jets will win a Stanley Cup before we get a chance to even pla in a championship game.
Hey, the Calgary Flames won one cup — 9 yrs after they left here.
We cannot win — do not want to blaspheme but God does not want us to win I guess. That is okay, he has more important things to worry about. If God wants us to miss the playoffs again I still believe.
stizz
August 31st, 2012
11:13 pm
Talent wise, this is the best team in the city. Execution wise is an entirely different story. The worst part about this loss is that what happened last year begins to creep in the back of their minds.
Growler
August 31st, 2012
11:13 pm
You’re quoting Matt Chernoff? Oh man, you lose serious cred with that one, “TheOnlyBravesFan”! Are all 162 games equal? I think not. This was a BIG loss tonight, for a number of reasons previously stated. Doesn’t mean they’ll collapse, but it’s more than fair to consider the prospect… now.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
11:13 pm
Rangers will be calling up Jurickson Profar for Sept… gonna be fun to see him
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
11:13 pm
@Jaded
“Pattern recognition and pessimism are not the same thing. We saw the Braves choke at the end of the 2009, 2010 and 2011 seasons. We’re now 4-9 over the last 13 games. Fearing another collapse makes logical sense when using the past as a guide.”
Good Point, And Our September Schedule is not a Cakewalk!
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 31st, 2012
11:13 pm
Maybe tomorrow but not overly hopeful….
Nite all.
Yunel's Frosted Tips
August 31st, 2012
11:14 pm
I will accept another choke job if it spells the end for Fredi……..
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
11:15 pm
A-Bomb — I really do not think they are that talented and that is on ownership.
God does not want ATL sports fans to have great ownership and he does not want us t have the NHL. And we have to accept his will.
We have Liberty Media and they will be around for another hundred plus yrs unless there armageddon.
September Swoon
August 31st, 2012
11:15 pm
“Amanda Comak @acomak
There was more than one #nats player in the clubhouse shouting out “He got him!!!” when Mayberry’s HR cleared the fence in Atlanta.”
In another clubhouse in another town, posting this on the bulletin board might fire some guys up! Not in the Braves clubhouse. They’re just too cool to let their emotions kick in and want to kick some butt on the field.
There are people and teams who take charge. They see an opportunity and grab it! And there are people and teams who are victims. They hope that good things will happen but can’t seem to do anything to MAKE good things happen so they get stepped on and nothing good happens to them.
Thats the Braves in a nutshell!
ACE
August 31st, 2012
11:16 pm
Should be some great quotes from Fredi.
Patrick
August 31st, 2012
11:16 pm
The collapse has begun, is happening and won’t end!
F’ing losers
MVPrado14
August 31st, 2012
11:16 pm
This is actually the best thing that can happen to the Braves. They are not going to win anything with Fredi at the helm. He will not survive another collapse, so when the Braves fail to hold on to the wild card again, he will be axed.
In the long run, it will be beneficial to the team. It will stink in the moment, but will definitely help in the long run.
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
11:16 pm
Kimbrel still needs to learn how to save games that matter….under pressure…in a playoff race…etc.
stizz
August 31st, 2012
11:16 pm
Couldnt have said it any better A Bomb.
Let’s subject C Mart to Howard/Utley when Avilan is still in the pen. Makes as much sense as hiring a guy to run a ballclub simply because of a good ol boy friendship he had with his predecessor.
ACE
August 31st, 2012
11:17 pm
Fredi why didn’t you take Minor out sooner?/
ccrider
August 31st, 2012
11:17 pm
Off season starts in 34 days. The Fall of The Braves Part 2 !
Chipper finally looking old and infirm.
McCann the mental midget of pitch calling, “Hmmm let’s see this hitter hasn’t touched the slider for 2 straight pitches,I know lets give him a chance with a fastball on the inner part of the plate.
It’s over guys they need a new Manager, GM and a bunch of new players starting with McCann ( needs to DH in the AL)
Another season down the drain
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
11:17 pm
MFin04
“Tomahawkin – Nope not with this garbage. I mean Janish should have put them up 2 runs but refused to score for some reason.
Maybe we beat Lee but I don’t seem them beating Hamels, and no way they beat them both. Just don’t see it happening. The collapse really feels imminent.”
Give it two weeks, we are About to Go Through hell with this team, they are sooo effing streaky!
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
11:17 pm
Talent wise, this is the best team in the city. Execution wise is an entirely different story. The worst part about this loss is that what happened last year begins to creep in the back of their minds.
@Stizz — I agree with the second part of your post. And you might be part right on the talent being the best in the city but that is sad cause we are middle of the pack in talent.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
11:17 pm
pattern recognition? You mean like the Nats the last however many years?
Facts don’t matter noles… unfortunately. Can’t fix stupid with smart, it seems.
You’re quoting Matt Chernoff? Oh man, you lose serious cred with that one, “TheOnlyBravesFan”! Are all 162 games equal? I think not. This was a BIG loss tonight, for a number of reasons previously stated. Doesn’t mean they’ll collapse, but it’s more than fair to consider the prospect… now.
Aww, did the fact that he said don’t watch the game if you’re afraid of the collapse hurt your feelings? Or was it what I said at the end…
kelevra
August 31st, 2012
11:18 pm
theonlybravesfan
you do understand that your unrelenting optimism logically makes just as little sense as their unrelenting pessimism…both are equally irrational
TBbravesfan
August 31st, 2012
11:18 pm
miss those good old ninetys
stizz
August 31st, 2012
11:18 pm
Please do not put this on God.
Jaded
August 31st, 2012
11:18 pm
nolie,
If you were looking for patterns with the Nats, you would note how since 2009 they have improved from 59 to 69 to 81 to a pace of nearly 100 wins.
There’s no reason to try to obfuscate. The Braves’ late-season choking may not make you comfortable, but it’s a well-established trend.
Vabravesfan
August 31st, 2012
11:19 pm
i like Wren alot, but missing the playoffs this season is unacceptable. he said this is a playoff roster that needed a 2nd chance. this past offseason our only free agent additions were jack wilson, livan hernandez, and chad durbin. we spent the least of any team in baseball. plus he failed to unload jurrjens for whatever we could get. so instead over 5 mil went down the drain.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
11:19 pm
“There are people and teams who take charge. They see an opportunity and grab it! And there are people and teams who are victims. They hope that good things will happen but can’t seem to do anything to MAKE good things happen so they get stepped on and nothing good happens to them.”
The Braves have been victims in big games for yrs and that was when we did have some elite teams. They have had a victim culture as far back as the late 90’s. The regular season was good enough and there was not enough hunger to take it to the next step.
September Swoon
August 31st, 2012
11:20 pm
“Take your pessimism and sukk it, or stick it you know where.”
OUCH”
This guy also says under all this horses@@t has got to be a pony!
The A Bomb
August 31st, 2012
11:21 pm
Seriously — the only thing we’ve found out under this tyrannical manager is….
1. He’s castrated Hanson and Jurrjens who have proven to be too mentally weak to survive.
2. The players are probably the mentally strongest are Heyward and Minor, who have been mind*&cked for 2 years and they’re sticking it right up his ass right now because they hate this guy so much.
3. I’ll bet if you polled the clubhouse 50% of these guys would want this guy out tomorrow. It’s a damn shame. Talented team being allowed to be mentally destroyed. As much as players WANTED to play for Cox it’s got to be the opposite with Gonzalez.
Just look at the body language. Only UGGLA shows any real emotion…why? Because his godfather will support him even if he hits .100 for a month. Total frickin’ joke.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
11:21 pm
Yunel’s Frosted Tips
“I will accept another choke job if it spells the end for Fredi……..”
Fredi will not get Fired, Bank on It, Its Not his Fault that Struggla and B-Macc are having their shi-ttiest seasons…Its not his fault that the Team has been Garbage hitting RISP Since Aug 1st
He is not an NFL Coach, He is not at fault for a team that is inept ate executing on offense
And what is killing me now….! Is that the team is making Mental Errors in Big Games! That didnt happen in the 1st half!
Getting Manly, finally
August 31st, 2012
11:21 pm
I see our Suffering Braves Fan is back. Must have grown a pair while he was suffering so much
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
11:21 pm
You’re quoting Matt Chernoff? Oh man, you lose serious cred with that one, “TheOnlyBravesFan”!
Just pointing out a good point he had.
Good Point, And Our September Schedule is not a Cakewalk!
Not true… I believe that we have the 2nd easiest schedule remaining of any contenders.
Jaded
August 31st, 2012
11:22 pm
“Facts don’t matter noles… unfortunately. Can’t fix stupid with smart, it seems.”
That’s hilarious. I posted plenty of facts in my 11:11 post. They’re just inconvenient facts for you sunshine pampers.
Some of you could be on the Titanic as it was sinking and would tell people around you to quit whining and being so pessimistic. That’s sort of what last September was like as the Braves were pulling the statistically worst collapse in National League history.
MVPrado14
August 31st, 2012
11:22 pm
“The regular season was good enough and there was not enough hunger to take it to the next step.”
Ahh .. the good old days … when they could actually get through the regular season to the postseason. Now, they play for five months and fall apart.
Jaded
August 31st, 2012
11:22 pm
Pumpers, not pampers*
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
11:22 pm
Not trying to rain on anyone’s parade, but it really baffles me why someone invests time in watching a team you think is awful and will choke and is not worthy of having the 3rd best record in the National League…(which they still do)…and then complains endlessly about how bad they are and how they have told us how bad they are forever…
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
11:22 pm
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
Kimbrel: “its definitely not a location I was trying to put it. I was trying to elevate on him and it didnt go high enough” #Braves…. Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
Kimbrel: “all we can do is come back tomorrow and keep on playing” #Braves
Farnsworthy
August 31st, 2012
11:22 pm
Over the course of a season a good manager will make a positive difference. I always felt like Bobby Cox’s deft managing, over the course of a season, was worth 10 wins. A bad manager will cost a team games, but it’s not 10 games; it more like 20 or more, because the effect of bad managing affects the morale of the entire team over time.
Growler
August 31st, 2012
11:23 pm
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LOL! You’re passive aggressive and defensive too! Fearing a collapse?? If you read all my posts very carefully, you’d realize I am far from your worst detractor. But Kelevra said it best a bit above. Have a good, optimistic night — and for what it’s worth, I hope you are right…
usnavyvolfaninva
August 31st, 2012
11:23 pm
Man, what a game tonight in the Dome…Vols looked a lot better than last year…almost 200 on the ground…looking forward to a great game when they go to Athens this year and take on the Dawgs! Dawg’s will win, but should be a good one.
Don’t know what to say about the Braves, other than it looks like they’re playing their way out of the playoffs again.. I hope i’m wrong.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
11:25 pm
doesn’t make me uncomfortable, I learned 50 years ago about the disappointments of baseball teams,
nothing bewildering or obscure about what I said at all
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
11:25 pm
I really really really want to make the playoffs and don’t want to be sad again like last year.
Please win.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
11:25 pm
I take Matt Chernoff and the rest of the talking head bunch on both 680 and 790 as seriously as Andrew Dice Clay.
Now that is bad. I hope the talk on 92.9 will not regurgitate old voices we have had in the past. Improvement in sports talk in ATL is welcome.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
11:25 pm
theonlybravesfan
you do understand that your unrelenting optimism logically makes just as little sense as their unrelenting pessimism…both are equally irrational
I’m not unreletingly optimistic…. I’m more optimistic than others, but not all the time…. I’ve had my share of bad nights…. but for the fools on here to start yelling “We’re sinking, we’re sinking” now is wrong… just because we lose 3 games at the end of August doesn’t mean we’re gonna collapse.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
11:26 pm
@Disgusted…
You Planning on Going to any Games next year if they Choke again or go One and Done? Take advantage of those season ticket promos! lol
I think people in Atlanta have been rubbing off on you hence the drop off in attendance this year, especially during the weekdays
richbrave
August 31st, 2012
11:26 pm
DOWN ON THE FARM
DANVILLE
DANVILLE falls to the TWINS 4-2 tonight to go 1-2 in the five game series.
RHSP WILLIAMS PEREZ takes the loss only going 3.1 IP and allowing 4 H including a HR, 3 R, 2 ER, 4 BB, 4 SO. All-in-all, not a best effort.
CF LOGAN ROBBINS is on fire at the plate. As I mentioned in the middle of yesterday’s game, he’s left a lack-luster hitting year behind him, and is grabbing for the brass-ring. Today he goes 3-4, 2 R, 1 2B [2], and hoists his average to .455 in the first three games of this series.
2B LEVI HYAMS [.556 BA] spots LOGAN three and goes him one better by batting 4-5 with a double [1] and two RBI [2] tonight.
In addition, PERAZA, KALENKOSKY, and DeSANTIAGO have a single apiece.
ACE
August 31st, 2012
11:26 pm
Hope those September call ups help.
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
11:26 pm
Not that there’s anything wrong with that…
MVPrado14
August 31st, 2012
11:26 pm
“it really baffles me why someone invests time in watching a team you think is awful and will choke”
it’s like driving past a really bad car wreck and feeling compelled to look even though you really don’t want to
nolie
August 31st, 2012
11:26 pm
calling me an optimist just shows you need a dictionary there dude
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
11:27 pm
But that takes 15 seconds (and I am not that perverted to do so)…
count_schemula
August 31st, 2012
11:27 pm
Nats win 10-0
Braves lose 8-5
Pittsburgh losing 7-2 in the 8th
LA losing 2-0 in the 5th
St. Louis lost to the Nats 10-0
SF lost 6-4
So, the Braves are collapsing, but at least everyone else is dropping the ball as well.
Forget about the Nats, just hope Meds can beat Kershaw or Cain in a 1 game playoff.
usnavyvolfaninva
August 31st, 2012
11:28 pm
1. He’s castrated Hanson and Jurrjens who have proven to be too mentally weak to survive.” – A Bomb
Huh?
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
11:28 pm
Getting Manly, finally
“I see our Suffering Braves Fan is back. Must have grown a pair while he was suffering so much”
Who in The #### Are You???
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
11:28 pm
If you read all my posts very carefully, you’d realize I am far from your worst detractor. But Kelevra said it best a bit above. Have a good, optimistic night — and for what it’s worth, I hope you are right…
I know you’re not my worst detractor, there are worse….. I will have an optimistic night, week, month, and season…. playoffs too. I hope I’m right as well.
stizz
August 31st, 2012
11:28 pm
Whoa ABomb,
Let’s not completely give Cox a pass. Dude had one of the greatest offensive teams ever assembled in 2003 and pissed it away.
This team needs a completely new facelift in terms of head brass goes.
SMOLTZ 29
August 31st, 2012
11:29 pm
For the month of August… Mcann had a grand total of 1 RBI! MERCY
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
11:29 pm
Gosh that hurts. 5-4 with EOF and Venters was a lock, worried about Kimbrel but oh well. Gotta win tomorrow.
Dirty Harry
August 31st, 2012
11:30 pm
I see VJ up to his old tricks of correcting.
Philly Phanatic
August 31st, 2012
11:30 pm
Phillies with beginning of the year starting outfield gone. Best all around player Ruiz (.335 avg.) coming back. Kendrick may be pitcher of the month, Lee and Hammels firing on all cylinders. After last year wouldn’t it be poetic for Phil’s to make playoffs then noise. I predicted a sweep in Atlanta. They lose 2 to Mets calling up rookie day of game still lose only 3-2. Wouldn’t that be something if Braves choke again. Kratz (who?) biggest hit of year off best closer in b-ball. Don’t you love destiny?
nolie
August 31st, 2012
11:30 pm
perhaps he meant to type castigated , Navy…
relegated to PTV
August 31st, 2012
11:30 pm
“just because we lose 3 games at the end of August doesn’t mean we’re gonna collapse.” Don’t forget the road trip…and it’s the fashion in which they lose.
FG is a mouth-breather. And the dookie runs downhill. End of story.
Lee in S GA
August 31st, 2012
11:30 pm
can Medlen start every other game…
September Swoon
August 31st, 2012
11:30 pm
“invests time in watching a team you think is awful and will choke and is not worthy of having the 3rd best record in the National League”
How many times in the off season did we hear from Wren or the media that the Braves had the second or third best record in the NL in August 2011? That statement was used as kind of an excuse every time anyone commented on the Swoon.
Unfortunately, the playoffs don’t start in August.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
11:30 pm
“A bad manager will cost a team games, but it’s not 10 games; it more like 20 or more, because the effect of bad managing affects the morale of the entire team over time.”
A bad manager will do more to cost wins than a good mgr add wins. You have to have the horses to win.
An example of how a bad manager cost a team this yr is Bobby Valentine. He has cost that team at least 10 wins if not more & they are worse than us.
If they have another Septermber like this Fredi will have to go and FW might have to follow. Come on, you cannot have choke jobs like this. I don’t thnk Fredi has cost them that much to date but the last 13 games some bad things are happening.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
11:31 pm
Forget about the Nats, just hope Meds can beat Kershaw or Cain in a 1 game playoff.—-count_schemula
Meds Will Pitch his ass off, but we will get Screwed by bad luck in that 1 game WC elimination, Bank on It!
Trey
August 31st, 2012
11:31 pm
Hopefully those two fans that got hurt at the Dome are alright.
MVPrado14
August 31st, 2012
11:31 pm
“Forget about the Nats, just hope Meds can beat Kershaw or Cain in a 1 game playoff.”
Seriously – to what end? This team is too flawed and has no leadership or heart. Do you really see them advancing in the postseason?
Dirty Harry
August 31st, 2012
11:32 pm
I assume you can still remember last season. I want to see a victory but when the play is bad I am going to say so. Doesn’t make you a better fan than me.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
11:32 pm
A bad manager will cost a team games, but it’s not 10 games; it more like 20 or more, because the effect of bad managing affects the morale of the entire team over time
there is nobody actually in baseball who believes that, strictly a disappointed fan idea
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
11:33 pm
Bobby was great in the regular season, but as a post season manager did not have as much succes he should have had with that level of talent.
We should have at least 3 or 4 WC banners up there with that level of talent.
1996 WS was unforgivable.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
11:33 pm
SMOLTZ 29
“For the month of August… Mcann had a grand total of 1 RBI! MERCY”
OUCH
The Dude is Flat out Hurt! Nuff Said, Just like last year, he was #### Trying to hit injured down the stretch
The A Bomb
August 31st, 2012
11:33 pm
usnavy — He’s destroyed their confidence. There’s something there. If he likes a guy he has one set of rules.
He’s like a bad high school coach. Fiddles with the lineup. Knows ZERO about pitching. Mindf^&%cks the hell out of the young guys.
Stizz — Cox could motivate and run a game by the seat of his pants like an elite manager. Leyland, LaRussa etc…. Gonzalez is TOTALLY lost.
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
11:33 pm
Dirty Harry – tell me, who did I correct? I appreciate that you are jealous of me, so I will forgive your amusing efforts to be antagonistic…
ACE
August 31st, 2012
11:34 pm
can we get a september call up to manage?
nolie
August 31st, 2012
11:34 pm
Bank on anything you say?
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
11:34 pm
“A bad manager will cost a team games”
Yep terrible move. 5-4 game and brought in best closer in the game. What was he thinking!?!
Playoffs!!!
August 31st, 2012
11:35 pm
Fredi looks like the Grim Reaper in the dugout. It can’t be fun playing for him—everyone looks uptight.
It looks like we’re seeing a late-season fade from Chipper. After all, he is 40, and it’s a long season, and the legs are the first to go.
I hope Hanson is not this year’s Derek Lowe down the stretch.
I think Heyward is 0 for his last 14.
On the bright side, Simmons will be back soon, and our competitiors for the Wild Card are beating themselves up
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
11:35 pm
Nolie — You don’t think that Bobby Valentine has cost that team at least 10 games this yr.
Costing 10 games is extreme but that is one guy who has done an extremely bad job in multiple areas.
Till recently I think Fredi has done a good job — he is a good baseball man but no way can this fan base stomach another non playoff season.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
11:35 pm
Look here, pessimists.
Matt Chernoff @RealMattlanta
Thats a fact #Braves fans don’t want to hear when they are envisioning a collapse. RT @tzip34 @RealMattlanta 5th best record in the bigs
September Swoon
August 31st, 2012
11:35 pm
Orioles kicked the Yanks butt and now trail them by only two games!
That is an example of how a team (Orioles) takes an opportunity by the throat rathers than having something choking in their throats!
usnavyvolfaninva
August 31st, 2012
11:35 pm
A-Bomb, he gave both of them ample opportunity to succeed, and they made ABSOLUTELY NOTHING out of those opportunities… they make a major-league salary, and they haven’t earned it. That’s no one’s fault but theirs.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
11:36 pm
Yep terrible move. 5-4 game and brought in best closer in the game. What was he thinking!?!
He should’ve used Martinez instead…
Oh, and he also should have pulled Janish home to score..
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
11:36 pm
If Mc Cann never played another game for the Braves I’d be fine with that cause he is washed up.
The A Bomb
August 31st, 2012
11:37 pm
No nolie. The word was correct.
JJ and Hanson have become total pussies. Part of it is their makeup, the other part is lack of support from the manager. Maybe they party too much.
Clear Gonzalez challenges these guys mentally. The ones that can’t take tank it. Look at the body language and you can tell he wants to clear the decks.
And let me add Medlen to Heyward and Minor — a guy who is sticking it up Gonzalez’s ass right now, probably out of sheerly detesting this guy.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
11:37 pm
You don’t think that Bobby Valentine has cost that team at least 10 games this yr
Fredi is NOT Bobby V and does not bring the same problems, and obviously nobody thought Bobby capable of costing them 10+ games, or they would not have hired him to begin with.
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
11:37 pm
TOBF – facts are not what the realists are interested in…
Dirty Harry
August 31st, 2012
11:37 pm
VJim, You long ramble about how people shouldn’t complain. Also the last time I asked you what made you such an expert? Have you played or coached on any level? of course you didn’t reply.
Lee in S GA
August 31st, 2012
11:37 pm
well if USC, Penn State and Notre Dame all lose it will be a great weekend no matter what the Braves do
count_schemula
August 31st, 2012
11:38 pm
“Seriously – to what end? This team is too flawed and has no leadership or heart. Do you really see them advancing in the postseason?”
Nope.
The one nice thing about the collapse was not losing in the first round to the Cubs, Giants or Astros. Why suffer the agony. Kimbrel tied up the game last year and I did not watch another inning of baseball until this spring.
I’m still rooting for Chipper to have a playoff end, but, I have not seen the magic out of this team except in tiny spurts.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
11:38 pm
I guess that Matt Chernoff, Kincaide and the rest of the 680 boys have fogotten what happened last yr.
All they do is make excuses for the failures of this team.
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
11:38 pm
Amazing how the realists only show up after a loss…
The A Bomb
August 31st, 2012
11:39 pm
Yeah usnavy, same applies to his ridiculous godson Uggla as well I’m sure.
Different set of rules. Destroys the clubhouse. You can’t win championships that way.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
11:39 pm
No nolie. The word was correct..ABomb
what word? are you talking about obfuscate? are you Jaded?
and if so, no, there was nothing obfuscating about my post. it was completely understandable
MFin04
August 31st, 2012
11:39 pm
Well goodnight all. Gotta win tomorrow.
The A Bomb
August 31st, 2012
11:40 pm
castrated.
uga-brave
August 31st, 2012
11:40 pm
it happens,
just got back.
was sitting in the 755 club, 0-2 game over? right/
catcher calls the only pitch he can hit.
mensa member.
MVPrado14
August 31st, 2012
11:42 pm
“Gotta win tomorrow.”
Shoulda won today – speaks volumes about the 2012 Atlanta Braves
ACE
August 31st, 2012
11:42 pm
These type games are what the Cards won down the stretch last year.
The A Bomb
August 31st, 2012
11:42 pm
Hanson and Jurrjens’ nuts were hanging, and he ripped them right off.
One of several who’ve digressed under this Eddie Haas managerial style. Sorry for the reference but it’s a clear match for the great Haas.
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
11:42 pm
Dirty Harry – I have never said people should not complain. Learn to read, you 3rd grade level reader. I just laugh at those who do nothing but whine and moan and cry, as you do. But I will defend your right to do so….and I will not bore you with 30 years of coaching credentials and championships won, because that is so beside the point…
Yunel's Frosted Tips
August 31st, 2012
11:42 pm
We can’t keep runnin’ Hinske out there…..he is brutal
nolie
August 31st, 2012
11:42 pm
oh castrated? hmmm. what kinda knife did they use, a Spey Blade?
MVPrado14
August 31st, 2012
11:43 pm
“Gotta win tomorrow.”
Shoulda won today – that’s becoming the story of the 2012 Atlanta Braves
Yunel's Frosted Tips
August 31st, 2012
11:43 pm
McCann may b e hurt ………but he is killin us too…..
uga-brave
August 31st, 2012
11:43 pm
man, right or wrong that one is salty.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
11:43 pm
JJ and Hanson have become total pussies. Part of it is their makeup, the other part is lack of support from the manager. Maybe they party too much.
A-Bomb — The reasons why JJ and Hanson have dumped on the bed is not Fredi’s fault, that is a combination of injuries, attitude and an overall lack of mental toughness. That is on them. They are both BUMBS.
I would be happy to see both of em gone this off season. Even Hanson looks washed up.
usnavyvolfaninva
August 31st, 2012
11:44 pm
You know, it’s amazing….. if it were the ’80s all over again, everybody on here would be beaming about having a record 16 games over .500 heading into September, and there’d probably be about 35,000 fans at every home game.. I think we’ve been so spoiled by the success of the ’90s that anything less than a 100-win season sucks. I’m not condemning those who are upset by how things are going, but just an observation. Meanwhile, the Phils are sub .500 and yet they continue to sell out their home games.
Tina
August 31st, 2012
11:44 pm
Thank god for football . Think McCann Uggla Hinski Francisco should try that sport there all fat to play.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
11:44 pm
no question but that was a disappointing loss tonight, but it does not necessarily signify the beginning of the end.
It could, but we don’t really know that yet
uga-brave
August 31st, 2012
11:45 pm
UT buried an ACC team that was supposed to be top three in the ACC.
Dirty Harry
August 31st, 2012
11:46 pm
I knew you wouldn’t have anything to back up that know it all attitude. You keep thinking that you are better than everyone else if it makes you feel better. Just don’t claim to the expert of the blog without something to back it up.
September Swoon
August 31st, 2012
11:46 pm
“Matt Chernoff @RealMattlanta
Thats a fact #Braves fans don’t want to hear when they are envisioning a collapse. RT @tzip34 @RealMattlanta 5th best record in the bigs”
It’s freakin’ groundhog day! People are even saying the same things they said last year!
3rd best record…..2nd best record……..August…….yada yada yada.
I repeat, playoffs do not begin in August. Braves had similar league best records in August of last year and still blew it!
nolie
August 31st, 2012
11:46 pm
FCS is that pointyball crap starting up again already????
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
11:47 pm
catcher calls the only pitch he can hit.
uga – well done pretending to be a fool and saying something ridiculous – love your sarcasm….
uga-brave
August 31st, 2012
11:48 pm
Yunell,
all you have to do is look at the drop in doubles.
fast twitch muscles.
why do you think the shift is on?
ACE
August 31st, 2012
11:48 pm
about time for the funny tweet from Chipper. We let one get away but will be back it tomorrow.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 31st, 2012
11:49 pm
Disgusted
“I guess that Matt Chernoff, Kincaide and the rest of the 680 boys have fogotten what happened last yr.
All they do is make excuses for the failures of this team.”
I don’t know abt Buck Belue and Leo: but Matt Chernoff Tells it like it is, he has Ripped Struggla in the second half, Chernoff is the best one on 680
That Carpetbagger Kincade is laughing that his Phillies won…
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
11:49 pm
no question but that was a disappointing loss tonight, but it does not necessarily signify the beginning of the end.
It could, but we don’t really know that yet
@Nolie — Because of what happened last yr it IS signifying the begining of the end. Some of us are still mad about last September and another collapse will make us madder.
The Braves have disappointed us too many times in big games — You have to go as far back as game 2 of the 96 WS the last time they won a WS game.
We will never be in another WS game again.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
11:50 pm
Matt Cernoff is a blithering, emotionally overwrought moron, Bank on it!!!
ACE
August 31st, 2012
11:50 pm
Would have been nice to put some more dietance between the braves and cards/pirates.
uga-brave
August 31st, 2012
11:52 pm
vj, i missed my sarcasm.
the dude could not hit anything in the dirt. it was 0-2 frickin two.
at least that was on the monitor.
sorry if i missed the count.
The A Bomb
August 31st, 2012
11:52 pm
Just look at the digression of players.
Jurrjens — Hanson — McCann — Hinske — Venters — Godson is the only who you really can’t explain because he’s been treated like a prince.
But if there’s one thing I do like is that Braves fans have found out that Jason Heyward, Mike Minor and Kris Medlen are some of the toughest SOBs on the planet. Look at what he did to Medlen and now look what Medlen is doing — sticking it right back up his ass.
Watch — he’ll mess with Simmons at the first chance. Freeman is due. Guy just messes with young players’ heads. That doesn’t work anymore in this day and age.
ACE
August 31st, 2012
11:52 pm
No matter how many times they say it doesn’t last year has to weigh on the team. Let’s hope for a strong start to September.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
11:52 pm
yes it would have been, and we are all unhappy that they didn’t ACE
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 31st, 2012
11:54 pm
I’m off to bed all, take care VJ and nolie… and even the pessimists.
Go Braves, we won’t collapse, don’t jump off any bridges. Peace.
nolie
August 31st, 2012
11:54 pm
Uga, I seriously doubt that Mac called a FB down the middle of the plate. location, location, location, just like real eatate
uga-brave
August 31st, 2012
11:55 pm
nolie,
he was a waiter at the Old Rio bravo on roswell road in B’head. \\
makes him a super genius.
ask steaky, steak thought he was talented.
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
11:55 pm
Actually, I like Matt too…
nolie
August 31st, 2012
11:55 pm
I’m sure it does weigh on them to some extent ACE, and that can make it harder, and it might lead to failure.lets hope not
uga-brave
August 31st, 2012
11:56 pm
nolie, should of been out of the strike zone, AND
usnavyvolfaninva
August 31st, 2012
11:56 pm
I agree uga. Of course, they kept referring to that epic comeback NC State had against Maryland last year, so i was on edge until that last interception… just hope they can do that against SEC teams…guess we’ll see.
Disgusted
August 31st, 2012
11:56 pm
Tomahawk — I just do not like either of the sports talk stations that much. I tune in only at work during the week & Chernoff just seems to have a vendetta vs the fans (that is the way I take him). I could be wrong. And his partner is worse. Chuck Oliver gets by with very little knowledge and is somewhat vulgar and not funny.
The fan just has an arrogance as to how they do things, so I have pretty much quit listneing, prefer out of town talk (thank goodness for internet).
In fact they all seem to have this thing that the fans know nothing,
uga-brave
August 31st, 2012
11:57 pm
TO finish you know that.
Lee in S GA
August 31st, 2012
11:57 pm
But if there’s one thing I do like is that Braves fans have found out that Jason Heyward, Mike Minor and Kris Medlen are some of the toughest SOBs on the planet. Look at what he did to Medlen and now look what Medlen is doing — sticking it right back up his ass.
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i would through Freeman and Prado into that discussion also…Uggla, McCann and Frederica gotta get the hell out of the city or will be the same ole…same ole
Venice Jim
August 31st, 2012
11:57 pm
uga – pay attention to your surroundings
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
Kimbrel: “its definitely not a location I was trying to put it. I was trying to elevate on him and it didnt go high enough”
nolie
August 31st, 2012
11:58 pm
who was a waiter, Uga?
I was a waiter once and I do have an old mensa card somewhere
in fact a lot of mensa members have oddball, and sometimes even menial jobs