Suffice to say, Medlen has secured his spot in Braves rotation
SAN DIEGO – Before we turn the page on last night’s Medlen-fest and focus on the Braves’ series finale and road-trip finale this afternoon (or 6:35 p.m. back in Atlanta), indulge me a few more moments to reflect upon what we’ve witnessed from the boyish looking right-hander who has what Freddie Freeman called the “Bugs Bunny change-up” and what John Smoltz called a fearless mound presence.
Medlen has been nothing short of sensational since moving to the starting rotation. (AP photo)
The debate over whether Kris Medlen was more valuable as a starter or reliever is now moot. He won’t be pitching the sixth and seventh innings in relief again anytime soon.
The only debate is likely to be which of the first three rotation spots should he have for the postseason rotation, assuming the Braves hold on and make it, at least as a wild card and possibly as the NL East winner, the far more preferable – albeit still less likely — route. But with the Nationals in a five-game skid through Tuesday, with just six runs and one homer in that stretch … well, let’s just say we’ve seen worse late-season slides.
Far worse.
Far, far worse.
But anyway, back to Medlen, who has gone 5-0 with an 0.66 ERA in six starts since the Braves moved him to the starting rotation at the end of July. The team has won 17 consecutive games he’s started going back to 2010, when he had season-ending Tommy John surgery in September that would also sideline him for almost the entire 2011 season.
Seventeen consecutive wins – that’s an all-time franchise record, going back more than a century. And it’s the most consecutive wins by any team in one pitcher’s starts since the Cardinals won 17 in a row of Chris Carpenter’s starts in 2005.
Oh, and Medlen has another remarkable streak going now, as you probably know: 28-1/3 consecutive scoreless innings, the longest by a Braves pitcher since the great Greg Maddux threw up a streak of 39-1/3 scoreless innings in 2000.
Coincidentally, it was Maddux that Chipper Jones compared his young teammate to in a tweet late last night (Chipper’s postgame Twitter comments, usually just one or two a day, have become highly anticipated and entertaining fare for his fans). Chipper typed: “Medlen is Maddux-esque rite now, only Med has a better pick-off move! DU went #mammo off the paint can! Bmac is now singing soprano,Lol!!”
To translate: “DU went mammo” referred to Dan Uggla’s mammoth homer to left field; “Bmac is now singing soprano” referred to Brian McCann getting hit by a foul tip in the place where a man doesn’t want to get hit by a foul tip; and Medlen is Maddux-esque… well, that’s obvious.
Medlen did pick off two runners at first base with one of the quickest moves I can ever recall from a right-hander. He’s not too many years removed from playing shortstop, and the hyper-energetic (and switch-hitting) Medlen is perhaps the best athlete on the team, according to McCann. (I’d have to see him face Michael Bourn, Jason Heyward and Jack Wilson in some sort of skills competition before I’d believe he’s a better athlete than those guys, but McCann’s point was understood. Medlen is, by all accounts, an excellent all-around athlete.)
The Maddux-esque reference is not sacrilege or over-the-top hyperbole. No one is saying Medlen is Maddux or that he’ll have even an iota of the success of the guy I consider the greatest pitcher of our generation (non-steroids division). But Medlen is having success now in a Maddux-type manner. That is, not by overpowering hitters with mid- to upper-90 mph fastballs, but by mixing pitches, changing speeds, and location, location, location.
For Medlen, it’s a breaking ball, pinpoint command of his fastball, and that vaunted change-up, which not only neutralizes a lot of lefty hitters, but is also effective against righties.
“He does everything you want a starting pitcher to do,” manager Fredi Gonzalez said after Tuesday’s game. “Hopefully there’s young players out there watching him pitch. He gets the ball back and fires. He hold runners. He fields his position. He can bunt, hit-and-run….
“He’s another guy that pitches like he’s in the back yard [that’s how Gonzalez previously described Tim Hudson]. He’s having fun. He goes after hitters and nothing fazes him. We’re glad to have him in the rotation.”
Medlen has all of it working in harmony right now, as evident by the jaw-dropping stats he’s producing.
In five starts in August, he has an 0.50 ERA that’s the best among pitchers with at least 22 innings (starters, in other words). Next-best ERAs for starters this month are 1.08 by Seattle’s Felix Hernandez, 1.42 by St. Louis’ Kyle Lohse, and 1.47 by St. Louis Adam Wainwright.
The Braves and Dan Uggla hope the long homer he hit in Tuesday's 2-0 win was a sign of things to come, not just a blip amid his epic slump.
Wainwright is 5-0 with a 1.47 ERA in five August starts, with 26 hits, five walks and 33 strikeouts in 36-2/3 innings, which would assure him the NL Pitcher of the Month award in most months. But I’d say Medlen has the slight edge this month, with a 4-0 record, 0.50 ERA, 35 strikeouts and four walks in 35-2/3 innings.
In his past three starts, Medlen is 3-0 with no runs, 17 hits, one walk and 22 strikeouts in 24 innings, including 17 innings against the Padres with 15 strikeouts and no walks. The Padres had batted .326 during an eight-game winning streak before Medlen held them scoreless on five singles in eight innings Tuesday.
“He’s not afraid of anything or any situation,” Gonzalez said. “He’s having fun. That’s a nice trait to have. He’s on the mound having fun.”
Medlen was asked again Tuesday about starting (which he prefers) over relieving, and asked if he’s wondered what might have been if he’d been in the starting rotation all season. Medlen handled the questions as effortlessly as he’s handled hitters lately.
“I keep saying the same things,” he said, smiling, “but I love the game, I love trying to out-think guys and out-pitch hitters, and catch them trying to look for something and you throw something else…. That’s what I live for. That’s what I’ve done my entire life. I’ve learned so much from so many different people, and I’m just trying to put it all together and figure it out.”
In other words, he loves everything about starting, the cerebral part of the role and of being in control of the game from the first pitch, as opposed to coming in and cleaning up after others or trying to help finish off what others have started.
“When I was in the bullpen I did my best, and now that I’m starting I’m going to try to do my best,” he said. “So far it’s working. There’s still a month and however many days left. We’ve got a long eway to go, and hopefully we just continue to keep playing well.”
Medlen never once complained or lobbied for a starting role when he was working out of the ‘pen. And when asked last night if he had thought about how well he might have won if he’d started all season, he didn’t bite. Instead, he agreed with a suggestion that he might be fresher now than he would have been if he’d been in the rotation since the outset of his first full season following TJ surgery.
“Also, I could have been in [Stephen] Strasburg’s situation where I could have gotten shut down,” he said. “I’m lucky to be in this situation.”
The Braves feel lucky to have him in this situation. They just put Ben Sheets on the DL with a sore shoulder, and just as the glow was starting to fade from Sheets’ first three sensational starts after a two-year layoff, Medlen’s increasingly dominant performances more than picked up the slack.
The Braves scored only two runs in each of his two starts on the current 10-game trip, but Medlen allowed zero runs and won both games.
“We know he’s going to go out there and throw strikes,” Freddie Freeman said, discussing how the team loves playing behind Medlen. “He’s got a Bugs Bunny change-up, so when he can locate and throw the change-up like he does, and sneak in a curveball every once in a while, that’s why he’s been so successful….
“It’s a long road trip, long flights and everything like that. And the way Med came out and pitched, it gives us a little breather. We can just go out there and play. Chipper and Uggs giave us enough for Med to go out there and go eight strong, and hopefully we’re going to end the road trip on a positive note [Wednesday].”
BRAVES LINEUP (5th different position for Prado on this trip)
- Bourn cf
- Johnson lf
- Heyward lf
- Chipper 3b
- Prado 1b
- Ross c
- Uggla 2b
- Janish ss
- Hanson p
• OK, gotta get down to the clubhouse. Let’s close with a tune from the way-underrated Centro-matic and Will Johnson, one of the many great things about Austin, Texas. You can hear it by clicking here.
“ONLY IN MY DOUBLE MIND” by Centro-matic
Calculate the trouble lines
Only in my double mind
Foresee the history and then follow through
Where are you going friend?
Maybe to the chorus bend?
Or maybe to the fence that splits your heart and worried mind?
History, harmony, pullin’ back through time
Only in my troubled, double mind
The mystery, the clarity, all the things I find
Only in my troubled, double mind
Champion of quarantine!
Quarantine your demons, friend.
Respect ability, respect what is you
Iron out your trouble lines
Only in your double mind
Respect your history and love what is you
– David O’Brien, Braves/MIB blog
1,940 comments Add your comment
Animus
August 29th, 2012
3:17 pm
So is there any position Prado can’t play?
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
3:19 pm
Prado probably wouldn’t be very good at CF, catcher, or pitcher. SS only on very rare occasions.
abeeeewright
August 29th, 2012
3:19 pm
Do we have to register to post to this blog?
Not so much yet.
CB
August 29th, 2012
3:20 pm
Well I didn’t have to sign in for this one????
nolie
August 29th, 2012
3:20 pm
Left Out
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
3:21 pm
Well, old blog format lives to see another day, lol.
Hillbilly
August 29th, 2012
3:21 pm
No registration needed.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
3:21 pm
good thing too CB, not sure if the years go back far enough for you and me and richbrave
cricket
August 29th, 2012
3:22 pm
where a man doesn’t want to get hit by a foul tip
or by anything else
BFChris27
August 29th, 2012
3:22 pm
Thanks for new blog
Animus
August 29th, 2012
3:23 pm
A player who has started in 5 different positions in 10 games, ordinarily would be considered a utility guy. But the regular LF playing all these different spots on a team? I believe HE’s doing everything possible to win.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
3:23 pm
not sure why everybody assumed we would have to sign in, not that I am against that if it would help clear out the multiple neggies
tristan
August 29th, 2012
3:23 pm
why is Prado on first? We have the baddest offensive first baseman in all of the minor leagues and we are going to use our utility stud? Come Saturday Mejia better be on the team.
Jimmy
August 29th, 2012
3:24 pm
I’m registerless.
I have no register.
I’m without register.
I’ll get home about 30 minutes before gametime.
Excellent start time.
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
3:24 pm
Arizona Fall League rosters have been announced and the Braves will be playing for the Phoenix Desert Dogs this year. Here are the prospects we’re sending:
RHP Cory Rasmus
RHP Gus Schlosser
RHP Zeke Spruill
C Mathew Kennelly
SS Nick Ahmed
3B Edward Salcedo
nolie
August 29th, 2012
3:24 pm
ok I’m getting tired of reading all the gushy Medlen syrup.
CB
August 29th, 2012
3:26 pm
nolie, wait to Medlen allows 8 runs in 2 innings and it will stop.
Animus
August 29th, 2012
3:26 pm
Aw c’mon nolie, it’s nice to hear gushing once in awhile. We’re gonna read lots of negativity starting in about 3 hours
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
3:27 pm
Mejia’s not on the 40-man roster.
Ward
August 29th, 2012
3:27 pm
Rotation for next year
1. Huddy
2. Medlen
3. Maholm
4. Minor
5.Sheets, or Hanson, until Beachy gets back, then
1. Huddy
2. Medlen
3. Maholm
4. Minor
5. Beachy. I would say pretty darn good Rotation. Don’t need pitching next year. Just need a LF, and move Prado to 3rd base.
SNEAKY PETE
August 29th, 2012
3:28 pm
right. Excellent,Good,Average,Mediocre to poor, pretty much replacement
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2012
3:29 pm
Thanks, DOB (from a bar near the stadium)
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2012
3:29 pm
Thanks, DOB (from a bar near the stadium)
SNEAKY PETE
August 29th, 2012
3:29 pm
can NEVER have too much pitching
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
3:30 pm
Oh yeah, and Edward Salcedo is down to .236/.294/.393 on the year.
Since the MILB All-Star break, he’s hit .202/.279/.368 and in August, he’s hit .153/ .223/.353.
This has been the usual 2nd half slump for Salcedo who needs desperately to have a good 2013 to save his status as any sort of prospect, even at 21 imo.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
3:30 pm
must be drinking doubles at that bar…
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
3:30 pm
In the announcement yesterday, the AJC expressly said the new commenting system was going to require registering and this was to upgrade the level of the comments overall. If you think the Braves blog is bad just read some of the local news blogs where even the weather becomes a racial issue in about 5 minutes.
I have not posted since the All-Star break waiting for a log-in system. I kinda thought they would have the website converted over by now. I guess I jumped the gun. But regardless, the login system is coming.
For the older people having trouble with the CAPTCHA thing, I think there is a small speaker icon which will play a word and you can type the word in. That is to prevent “non-human robots” from creating accounts to spam the blogs with spam. Even youngins’ hate CAPTCHA, so, you have our empathy there. It’s not readable on purpose.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
3:31 pm
yeah its like he tires out or the rest of the league gets a great book on him. pretty disappointing so far, but young enough that there is at least some chance that he can get better
Sam
August 29th, 2012
3:32 pm
DOB, any chance the Braves release Jack Wilson since Paul Janish has played so well in his role? Janish isn’t the most athletic player in the world, but he is 1000 times more athletic than Wilson. He makes plays look routine that Wilson struggles with.
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
3:33 pm
With the double post you can only imagine what cabravesfan and him are consuming.
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
3:33 pm
And he’s made like 40 errors for the 2nd straight season at 3rd base. I get it, he;’s young for the level – but sooner or later you have to produce.
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
3:35 pm
Agree, nolie. I think next year is a big year for him. He’ll turn 22 years old in July, and still be young for Double-A, although to be honest, I would love to see him repeat High-A and crush it, even if it’s him repeating the level.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
3:35 pm
Even youngins’ hate CAPTCHA, so, you have our empathy there. It’s not readable on purpose..count
yeah, but this is the worst I’ve seen at least to me. it usually only takes me a try or two on most other sites. also what is going to happen with our names that they say are already taken, when it is us who have taken them? Dam sure hope they add an ignore button after all this
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
3:36 pm
I think with the Janish signing the writing was on the wall with Wilson. The club obviously has almost no confidence in Pastor at SS, so unless he can pull off a 2b/OF utility role, he’s on thin ice as well. We have not seen Pastor at 3b have we? I doubt he has the arm for that.
southern hope
August 29th, 2012
3:37 pm
wow, please please have AJC figure out their commenting system before you bring it over here. This morning, I decided to make a comment on the new system, I logged-in via Facebook…no problem, went right in . Two hours later, I decided to make another comment (to tell them that they should have redirected pages…for example, the AJC Braves page now goes to ‘page not found” because they didn’t put a redirect in place before they changed the URL so all bookmarks, etc. are going to broken pages) .
Trying to log-in again via Facebook does, well, nothing…it literally never lets you log in. So then I decided to try Yahoo and Google as an alternative log-in, Unlike the experience before, I was sent to *another* error page telling me that I need to have javascript enabled. Ugh. Anyway, it’s a mess. Plus the text is too small.
Ward
August 29th, 2012
3:37 pm
Braves, got some one for the bench, and he will be called up in Sept. Lyle Overbay, and I think he will be on the bench next year. I think all wren should do next year is LF with power, and sign Bourn, and tweak bullpen.
DAM
August 29th, 2012
3:38 pm
Like I said on the other blog, I don’t like registering in places I don’t have to, so if it does convert, it’s been great talking to everyone on here off and on for the last 3-4 years.
WeBurn
August 29th, 2012
3:38 pm
Prado is the MAN! Much respect for someone who can play multiple positions and not let it affect them at the plate. Much respect indeed.
BF54
August 29th, 2012
3:38 pm
Nice video great article D O’B
On the warpath…GO BRAVOS
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
3:39 pm
Bethancourt, Salcedo, Lipka, Ahmed, and Kubitza are our best position player prospects.
Unless of course you’re a big fan of the Trio of Woe(Gattis, Terdoslavich and Cunningham).
jl
August 29th, 2012
3:39 pm
Even after Uggla hit that towering home run, the very next 2 at bats he looked horrible, Dumb Ass swings at anything, hoping to hit it by accident.
This guy has no eye for baseball, cannot teach this, so he will go on swinging wildly whatever comes his way.
No slump breaker here. They will keep pitching him down and away, and he will oblige them by swinging for all he is worth(not much to Braves) and miss by a mile.
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
3:41 pm
Good to see they’re sending Ahmed — hopefully he’ll tear it up and hike that trade value. With Simmons there’s little hope of him wearing a tomahawk for long.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
3:41 pm
Prado has to be the team MVP this year. Bourn had a career year. FF was streaky but solid overall. Heyward looks to be over the sophomore slump and about to go on his Dave Winfield run. Chipper has thrilled and Simmons looks like 10 years of smooth glove and line drives, but Prado is the glue.
WeBurn
August 29th, 2012
3:42 pm
Oh yeah, the new format for ajc.com is TERRIBLE. It’s a freaking minefield of ads, and they broke the old Sports link. They are lucky they’re the only newspaper in town.
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
3:43 pm
Is Maholm a #5?…#4?…He’s playing like at least A #3 for us. Who cares what his number is, or even his mythical “ceiling”. I don’t, at least. And I don’t care that he doesn’t throw 95mph.
I DO care whether or not he is doing his job, and is an effective starter for this team at this time. I can’t tell you the metrics, but it sure looks like he is currently doing his job pretty well. I say ride that horse until it faulters. Just my opinion.
Ward
August 29th, 2012
3:43 pm
Next all I want is LF with power who can hit, and drive in runs, and I’ll be happy. The more I think about it. I like Prado back at 3rd base in his regular position.
BravesQueen
August 29th, 2012
3:44 pm
Go Braves!! Just keep winning and gaining ground on the Nats.
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
3:44 pm
Thanks for the work DOB.
GO BRAVES!!
Last 9 Starts of the Starting 9
_________AVG__OBP__SLG___OPS_wOBA_L9S9+
Bourn__ .176 .317 .235 0.552 .273 ___68
Reed___ .265 .324 .353 0.677 .306 __102
Heyward .333 .366 .718 1.084 .447 __212
Chipper .278 .350 .583 0.933 .398 __171
Prado__ .263 .317 .342 0.659 .342 ___96
Ross___ .235 .308 .382 0.690 .326 __104
Uggla__ .138 .306 .276 0.581 .279 ___75
Janish_ .121 .171 .212 0.384 .173 ___13
Hanson_ .000 .063 .000 0.063 .036 __-79
CB
August 29th, 2012
3:44 pm
Honestly, I understand one of the benefits of registering will be to keep some people from using different monikers and have some accountability. Make it too difficult and many of us will be gone.
what of it?
August 29th, 2012
3:45 pm
McCann takes more shots to the groin than any other person in baseball. it must be at least once or twice a year
Heisenberg
August 29th, 2012
3:45 pm
A spot at the top of the rotation and given 7 more starts he will easily be in double digit wins. When you combine his entire body of work for the whole season, he should garner some Cy Young votes. Maybe not win it, but a strong finish will be fresh in voters minds and should get a few.
cricket
August 29th, 2012
3:45 pm
i’m gone if i have to provide any personal info, including name
timthebrave
August 29th, 2012
3:45 pm
I love having ballplayers like Medlen and Prado…True pros…Go Braves!
Ward
August 29th, 2012
3:45 pm
We need to make the bullpen a tad bit stronger for next year.
Nick D
August 29th, 2012
3:47 pm
Nicknames for Medlen: Med Dog? Maddlen?
Also, Kimbrel for Cy Young? Deserves some consideration, at least.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
3:47 pm
Ward, if Prado had a regular position it was 2b. If we move Prado to 3b full-time, we have 2 OF holes to fill. Expect the team to lean on Juan, at least against RH pitching next year. Prado will bounce between LF and 3b and we still need a CF, or failing that, Heyward in CF and a RF.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
3:47 pm
no name, just preferred blog moniker,password,birthday, Email and M/F. Zip code is optional.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
3:48 pm
“i’m gone if i have to provide any personal info, including name”
you don’t, just don’t use your FaceBook account to register.
Bat Masterson
August 29th, 2012
3:48 pm
KeyLargo_
I’m far enough east of the storm that all we got was some fairly strong winds yesterday and heavy rain for a while last might.
jl
August 29th, 2012
3:48 pm
Why would Freeman not start tonight? The season is almost over, have we given up on catching Nats? I say “balls to the wall” let Prado play SS insteal of Janish, who has a terrible batting avg. We need bats in lineup as well as defensive players. Prado would be fine at SS and we can use another bat like Freeman’s.
Fredi is a total idiot!
nolie
August 29th, 2012
3:48 pm
second is one of Prado’s poorer positions defensively
Heisenberg
August 29th, 2012
3:49 pm
New AJC website…same old annoying Meebo.
Ward
August 29th, 2012
3:50 pm
We keep Uggla , and Prado at 3rd.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
3:50 pm
ranked as second best LFer in baseball in Runs Saved on Bill James/Baseball Fielding site
Kat
August 29th, 2012
3:51 pm
Tried to register my name but it was taken already :-/ oh well
CB
August 29th, 2012
3:51 pm
Heisenberg, add Adblock PLus and you never have to see any of it.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
tristan – Have you ever seen Prado play first? Last time there earlier in the year, he made several excellent plays. Dude’s going to give you the best he has – no matter where he plays he’ll be better than most subs. It’s just the way he plays the game.
Heisenberg
August 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
I kinda like the starting Prado at SS for more offense against the LH pitching. Get a lead then bring in Janish late and move Prado to LF like last night. Formula works for me.
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
AT, there was some login option at the top right of the screen on the sports page, or main page… I don’t recall which.
Ward
August 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
All, it’s been good talking, and talk tonight, all have a good one! Enjoyed reading some of your post. Peace My friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!” Believe In The Impossible….
Heisenberg
August 29th, 2012
3:53 pm
Adblock PLus, will look into it.
Animus
August 29th, 2012
3:53 pm
CB
August 29th, 2012
3:51 pm
Heisenberg, add Adblock PLus and you never have to see any of it.
Then add Ghostery and Meebo/tracking all disappear – such a nicer site w/out all the BS that pops up.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
3:53 pm
“Honestly, I understand one of the benefits of registering will be to keep some people from using different monikers and have some accountability. Make it too difficult and many of us will be gone.”
Think of it as short term pain for long term gain. Once you sign-up, you’re done. I left for a couple of months because there was not a log-in system. If you don’t know who you are talking to or if people falsely accuse you of being some person saying vile things, what’s the point? The noise level will drop considerably once the login system is in place. I still think they should have used a Quora or reddit style system of upvote/downvote, but, baby steps. It’s Cox Media Group we are talking about.
Heisenberg
August 29th, 2012
3:56 pm
Prado has nothing on this guy….
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/justin-toole-plays-nine-positions-minor-league-game-174929078–mlb.html
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
3:56 pm
Shaun (and others) I understand the concept of the value of a player at a given position, based on his defensive and offensive metrics compared to thers at that position, and expectations for that position. I also agree with the value of good defense, but especially up the middle.
I don’t give a tinkers DAMN about where the hits come from, or that a players offense is worth more or less than a players offense at LF (for example). For offense and team scoring, I don’t think it matters what position it comes from. If Uggla actually were hitting .270 and 30 HR, but our LF wqas hitting .250 and 15 HR, I’m fine with that.
It’s kinda like what Shaun actually does say about RBI…Individually, it doesn’t matter much (I don’t totally agree) but as a team stat, RBI matters a lot. Actually, it’s runs that matter a lot. I don’t give a rats azz who actually produces them. Just my obviously uneducated opinion.
George
August 29th, 2012
3:58 pm
The blog is back and so am I. I still wish we could register our names.
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
3:59 pm
nolie – I love you, man…but dude, you are getting more cranky than ususal. :0
Wasn’t Prado and all star at 2ND?
Hillbilly
August 29th, 2012
4:00 pm
Bethancourt, Salcedo, Lipka, Ahmed, and Kubitza are our best position player prospects.
That hurts. Like the others on that list (and I’ll add Brandon Drury), Kubitza has had a disappointing season. Ahmed has been decent though, I suppose.
I asked the other day, but didn’t stick around for an answer: any reason to keep our eyes on Trenton Moses? He’s 23 years old in Danville, I know, but he put up a good showing best I can tell. He was an offensive beast in college, I think.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
4:01 pm
it will be interesting if they tie it to your IP address to see who turns up missing. ideally a person using a revolving IP changer would have to re-register with every post
David Perrins
August 29th, 2012
4:01 pm
“but by mixing pitches, changing speeds, and location, location, location.”
How about movement? He looks just like Maddux.
Heisenberg
August 29th, 2012
4:01 pm
I have not registered. Just did what I have always done.
DAP
August 29th, 2012
4:01 pm
martin prado is a special, special player.
George
August 29th, 2012
4:02 pm
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
Main page I saw it when I was looking for thier phone number to call them about BRAVES pages being down.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
4:02 pm
please quote what was it I said that you thought was cranky?
and defensively he has never been more than a very average fielding second baseman.
Heisenberg
August 29th, 2012
4:04 pm
They could use the MAC address. Then only changing computers (or network cards) would make a difference.
George
August 29th, 2012
4:04 pm
OH that MEDLEN! BELIEVE IN THE MEDS!
Larry A
August 29th, 2012
4:04 pm
Ward,
If I recall Hanson is arbitration eligible this year so I wonder if the Braves offer him arbitration or let him go or perhaps sign and trade, he really has not been the durable “top of the rotation” power pitcher they had hoped he would be – fastball very low 90s and even upper 80s some days is really not what they were looking for.
I doubt they sign Sheets again unless he is really on the cheap. I would expect to see Delgado fill that #5 spot until Beachy is ready. Also don’t forget Gilmartin and Teheran. Both for sure start next year in AAA and I am sure the Braves are hopeful Teheran gets straightened out. Then there is the wildcard of Zeke Spruill who is a bit older and more likely to get a fast promotion if he does well.
Next year’s third baseman is Francisco. Maybe if he has a bad start to the year they drop Prado there but Francisco’s stats when starting are impressive -> .285, 8 HRs, .319 OB and .865 OPS – all in 130 ABs… Over a full season, that is 30HRs – that is not coming out of the lineup until it is proven to be a fluke. He won’t play against lefties (his numbers are horrid there although perhaps that can improve).
Train Wreck Bystander
August 29th, 2012
4:05 pm
They should have allowed spaces in the blog monikers. It’s not 1997.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
4:05 pm
martin prado is a special, special player….DAP
yeah he is, and I’ve said that since he was in AA ball
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
4:05 pm
reason to keep our eyes on Trenton Moses?
I’m not sure, to be honest. I do know Carlos Franco will get the bulk of the playing time at 3rd base in Rome next year – potentially even over Brandon Drury if he repeats the level. We certainly do have lots of 3rd base options in the minors – Leonard, Terdoslavich, Salcedo, Kubitza, Drury, Franco, Moses…. – just not sure if any of them are future average big leaguers.
Big Papa Dawg
August 29th, 2012
4:05 pm
Would rather chop that Uggla home run into a week’s worth of singles. Medlen has the one thing that Hansen does not<heart. Next year Prado Heyward and Medlen will lead this team rather than depend on that overrated third baseman.
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
4:06 pm
Be a really good day on this blog when they lock up Prado…..
Or heck, any player other than Uggla beyond 2013.
Larry A
August 29th, 2012
4:06 pm
Oops, mistyped the Zeke Spruill – he is not older but he has been in the system longer.
bravesgrl4life
August 29th, 2012
4:07 pm
Huh, I haven’t had to login. This blog looks to me the same as it always has. I don’t mind registering; have to do it for a lot of other stuff. If it keeps the negative nellies and name stealers off here, I’m fine with it. Unfortunately, if I have to login via Facebook, I won’t be able to at least for now since my employer blocks Facebook. Maybe the one that is buying us in October won’t.
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
4:07 pm
How “nibbley” will Hanson be tonight? Will he again be terrified to throw a fastball?
nolie
August 29th, 2012
4:07 pm
but Francisco’s stats when starting are impressive -> .285, 8 HRs, .319 OB and .865 OPS – all in 130 ABs… Over a full season, that is 30HRs – that is not coming out of the lineup …Larry
all against righties though, he will not come close to those averages if he starts playing against lefties too I’m afraid
George
August 29th, 2012
4:07 pm
I have not looked at box, hope FREDI let him get his CG and SO.
DiamondbackMac
August 29th, 2012
4:07 pm
..
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
4:07 pm
Richie Shaffer is at the AFL for Tampa Bay. He may be the guy we should of taken instead of Sims. Although I’m still pretty happy with how the draft turned out.
Heisenberg
August 29th, 2012
4:08 pm
Cubs just locked up Castro for 8 years for around 60M. Bought out 4 years arb plus another 3 years with a club option on a 4th..
phil
August 29th, 2012
4:09 pm
Register? For what? Surely they won’t ruin a good thing here….
Then again, I’m sure they will….oh well, if so, it was good gabbing with you all over the last year and a half….
sigh.
Kat
August 29th, 2012
4:09 pm
Hmmm I think something must be up with registering accountant because everything I try is taken and some are with -,_ etc.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
4:10 pm
if Castro can keep defending anywhere near what he has this season, that could turn out to be a great deal for the Cubbies
Heisenberg
August 29th, 2012
4:11 pm
This is the one park where Hanson could have success with those fences being farther away from the plate than Heyward when he hits.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
4:11 pm
I see no reason why anyone who is sincere here would have any trouble with registering, its not like they are asking personal info
nolie
August 29th, 2012
4:12 pm
Kat, it seems that all our names are already taken….by us. how is that gonna work out I wonder
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
4:12 pm
Medlen is half Hanson’s size, but is a TON braver. That’s hilarious!
Heisenberg
August 29th, 2012
4:13 pm
Not sure though to what extent the Castro deal would affect a Prado deal, but could be a starting point.
cricket
August 29th, 2012
4:13 pm
have dodgers claimed Joe Mauer yet?
MFin04
August 29th, 2012
4:13 pm
“I see no reason why anyone who is sincere here would have any trouble with registering, its not like they are asking personal info”
I’d rather not register. Just one more screen name and password to remember. Plus we’d lose some of the crazys.
A little crazy is always good.
George
August 29th, 2012
4:14 pm
Nope FREDI does not believe in CGs. BELIEVE IN THE MEDS.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
4:14 pm
me neither Heisen
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2012
4:15 pm
Now drinking iced coffee to counteract pre-noon beer #suckstobeold
CB
August 29th, 2012
4:15 pm
MFin04, did you include yourself in that group?
Kat
August 29th, 2012
4:15 pm
nolie hmm I dunno. And I tired all —- and ____ with various numbers and they say all are taken. Hard to believe.
Kat
August 29th, 2012
4:16 pm
*tried
George
August 29th, 2012
4:17 pm
It is good a west coast team is going to let us have a early night game tonight. Thank you SD.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
4:17 pm
I am ALL FOR losing every crazy that we can lose.especially the ones who come on here under dozens of different names and say the same stupid stuff. (now that might be crabby
)
and its not like it is an important site, just use the same password as some other one
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
4:17 pm
Uggla can drive a fan crazy, but I do like the guy as a person. Even from the tv I can tell he’s as real a person as there is. Maybe if he didn’t care so much about other people’s feelings he would use his talents as a hitter more consistent. I bet he presses trying to please people. I’m a people pleaser myself.
George
August 29th, 2012
4:17 pm
It is good a west coast team is going to let us have a early night game tonight. Thank you SD.
MFin04
August 29th, 2012
4:17 pm
CB – WE ARE ALL CRAZY/DELUSIONAL. Just depends to what extent.
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
4:18 pm
Just registered. I had a dickens of a time with the CAPTCHA. I mnever have had that problem anywhere else.
I’m fine with registering. They didn’t ask any personal info, except date of birth. If it gets rid of multiple names, and identity theft on the blog, I’m all for it.
luvthosedawgs68
August 29th, 2012
4:18 pm
Those pick-offs by Medlen last night were awesome!! Should’ve had another one in the 1st inning, but the umpire missed it. I can’t remember the last time I was so mezmerized watching some pitch. When Medlen is on the mound, I get my snacks while the offense is hitting, LOL.
Sopheee
August 29th, 2012
4:19 pm
Y’all better register some names with eee’s too. Don’t think I’ll go easy on you if we do have to login.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
4:19 pm
thats all it could be Kat, try Katt maybe
Lew
August 29th, 2012
4:19 pm
Apparently I’m already registered but can’t remember my password. They tell me that my name and my email address are already taken and that I seem familiar.
Jimmy
August 29th, 2012
4:19 pm
VJ, you and Cab get us another win tonight, brother.
I know Kat is headed back to NYC, is DS1 going tonight too?
Enjoy the game guys.
reckingball
August 29th, 2012
4:19 pm
testing, testing, test, test, can you hear me now?
BF54
August 29th, 2012
4:19 pm
I’m gonna register and change my name soon if I can figure it out
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
4:19 pm
I just can’t respect the Dodgers. You go and try to buy championships and fans and it’s tacky. That’s pretty much what they’re doing, but they can, so they’re doing it. Fake ass team.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
4:20 pm
not sure you are gonna be able to register multiple names Soph, seems that would make it pretty useless.
BF54
August 29th, 2012
4:20 pm
I heard that chatt
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
4:22 pm
nolie @4:17 – I agree, and don’t consider that crabby at all.
BF54
August 29th, 2012
4:22 pm
I’ve always hated the pin stripers and the dodgers with the possible exception of Jackie Robinson
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
4:23 pm
Gotta get some of you SoCal visitors to stop overpaying for food and to get you to real food not far away. Not the commercialized crapola.
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
4:25 pm
Beckett is washed up though. Hanley is nothing but a virus who cares about himself only. Crawford is always hurt and apparantly not that good when does play anymore.
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
4:25 pm
RE multiple names…what if it’s more than 1 person using the same e-mail account? We do at our house.
Sopheee
August 29th, 2012
4:25 pm
noles, you better have at least 6 eee’s on the one you register then!
nolie
August 29th, 2012
4:26 pm
was just wondering what struck you that way earlier raleigh since I am actually in a pretty good mood all day
phil
August 29th, 2012
4:26 pm
Register where? And why? I’m here, same as always, no problem.
What am I overlooking?
Heisenberg
August 29th, 2012
4:28 pm
Dodgers only effectively added AGon. Who knows what Crawford will be and Beckett is done. They may have actually hurt themselves. I know people are critical of Braves for not going out and getting the high price guys but how is that also working out for Detroit & the Angels? The model of 2-3 max paid superstars works in the NBA but with MLB you win with depth and balance.
CB
August 29th, 2012
4:28 pm
I wonder if you can change your name if you want to later?
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
4:28 pm
What’s really funny is when some idiot uses multiple names, starrts talking to him (her)self, and then forgets to change the name….or when DOB calls them out.
What’s really NOT funny, is when someone steals your identity, and uses it top talk trash.
brian
August 29th, 2012
4:28 pm
thanks for the blog DOB – love watching Meds pitch.
Any old photos of Meds with the little girls backpack on for old times sake?
Train Wreck Bystander
August 29th, 2012
4:29 pm
The only real difference with the new comment system is that you need a real email address now instead of a fake one. No biggie.
Jimmy
August 29th, 2012
4:29 pm
I think the multi usernames are only limited by the email addresses you supply. But it is a start.
The In-Game Goobers will have to go to alot of trouble just to rant and attack other posters.
CrαZy
August 29th, 2012
4:29 pm
not sure you are gonna be able to register multiple names Soph, seems that would make it pretty useless.
Yeah… but you can change you’re online name whenever you want in that new system… It also allows profile pictures.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
4:29 pm
I don’t know raleigh, we do too though they all have different EMail accts in AOL. guess it will depend if they just use Email ot tie it to the IP address, which would limit others from posting on the same network. if they just use Email , it won’t change much for us or for the crazies.Just hafta see
phil
August 29th, 2012
4:31 pm
Whatever the heck it is you guys are talking about, I’ll figure it out whenever I get bumped off of here and see a prompt or whatever…..
Sopheee
August 29th, 2012
4:31 pm
lowercase phil – some of the AJC blogs have updated to where you have to register/sign in to comment. Some here are assuming the same will happen with DOB’s blogs so they’re registering by clicking on the register/sign in button in the top right corner of the AJC homepage.
MFin04
August 29th, 2012
4:31 pm
“What’s really NOT funny, is when someone steals your identity, and uses it top talk trash.”
Lol. Nah that is fun. That is when you know you’ve gotten under someone’s skin pretty bad that they have to still your moniker. Lol. People love the word moniker.
Ward
August 29th, 2012
4:32 pm
Larry A – Just here for a last post. I put Hanson it with Sheets, because you still don’t know until Beachy comes back? Should be an interesting off season though. I think we should keep Francisco on the bench next year, because I would like Prado to stay at 3rd, and Braves to spend big money on big LF. bat…..Forget the starting pitching. It will be fine. Once again all have a good one, and talk tonight! Peace Out, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
MikeInFl
August 29th, 2012
4:32 pm
So, just to see what the buzz was all about, I registered.
My take is, if AJC doesn’t get their act together, this will kill the blog, if they enforce registration.
First, in Mozilla Firefox, the captch image didn’t show. It told me to enter the text in the image, but there was no image.
Switched to IE, and went thru the process again. This time, the captcha image was there, but (of course) unreadable. Decided to hit the speaker, and have it play it for me. Sounded like something out of The Exorcist, as it played a continuous stream of various voices uttering unintelligible words. No two words were more prominent than any others, so it was no help.
Killed that, refreshed captcha and was able to read the next words. So, finally got that done. (as others have noted, captcha is always a PITA, not just here)
Then, the email that was s’posed to come to me took about 10 minutes to arrive. Not a big deal, I guess, but not exactly confidence-inspiring after all the other issues.
Got it done, though maybe not needed.
Again, I’m not opposed to some type of registration, but that alone will thin the ranks a lot. And if the process isn’t more efficient than I found it to be, you’ll lose a lot more due to that.
Animus
August 29th, 2012
4:32 pm
Nolie – I just restarted my modem and got a different IP addy from my ISP – and I’m still logged on to AJC, so it appears that it’ll be username/email, not IP address.
BFChris27
August 29th, 2012
4:33 pm
Lets go Braves & Marlins!
DAP
August 29th, 2012
4:33 pm
i havent had to register either. im confused.
Sad Sack
August 29th, 2012
4:35 pm
Enter your comments here.
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
4:35 pm
nolie – Truthfully, my friend, I don’t remember, and don’t feel like going back. I ‘m sure I was just kidding with you, anyway. I would never disrespect you on purpose.
NM Lee
August 29th, 2012
4:35 pm
Samantha, are you on here sweetie?
Are you registered?
Heisenberg
August 29th, 2012
4:36 pm
Animus, that would make sense as most IP service providers charge extra for a static IP address. Yours probably changes every 72 hours whether you restart you modem or not. 72 hours is a standard lease time for most DHCP servers, then a new IP addresss is issued.
CrαZy
August 29th, 2012
4:38 pm
I hope it doesn’t kill the blog… Not like you have to give up much info.
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
4:39 pm
Just a day off for Freeman, so could get another right-handed bat in lineup.
Lefty hitters vs. Padres starter Stults: .129 (8-for-62) w/ 2 extra-base hits, .154 OBP and .380 OPS; righty batters: .280 (49-for-175) w/ 14 exta-base hits, .333 OBP and .750 OPS.
L.A. Mont
August 29th, 2012
4:40 pm
M-V-P….Most Valuable Prado…the guy is amazing. True baller! Isn’t it interesting how the addition of Reed Johnson has given Fredi some flexibility to rest players and play righty/lefty pitching matchups. That tells you how poor the Braves bench was (and past Johnson/Ross/Francisco) still is, when you can’t count on a becnh player to give you a spot start! This should serve the team well in September as guys can catch a breather when needed.
Thought Topce: So I’ve heard some talk of Craig Kimbrel in the conversation for the NL Cy Young? That can only happen if there are no clear dominant starters, which I guess in the NL, there’s not. The NL has some great closers with Kimbrel, Chapman (CIN), and the Hammer-guy (PIT). All are having great years. Braves seem to be better about adding runs late in games, so the save chances have decreases. Much rather have a 4-5 run lead in the 9th, than 1-2. If Kimbrel could get closer to 45-50 saves I could see a possible Cy Young, but with the number of games remaining, I don’t think he’ll get that many chances, and no need to tire his arm out for that!
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
4:40 pm
Maybe now we will be able to tell the REAL Ward from FAKE Ward.
Jimmy
August 29th, 2012
4:40 pm
nolie – The crabby remark was when you were having trouble with that “captcha” thing. You said something like “This site is pyssing me off..”
I’m sure raleigh was messing with ya.
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
4:41 pm
Hanson is 4-0 with a 2.01 ERA in five starts vs.Padres, inc. 3-0 with a 1.42 ERA in three starts at Petco Park.
CB
August 29th, 2012
4:41 pm
Well, it would be nice if DOB could answer the question about whether registration will be needed on this blog. DOB,kind sir?
Bat Masterson
August 29th, 2012
4:42 pm
Kat, it seems that all our names are already taken….by us. how is that gonna work out I wonder _ nolie
I registered as Bat Masterson. It wouldn’t let be list my age as 159 years old, though.
BFChris27
August 29th, 2012
4:43 pm
I registered.
MFin04
August 29th, 2012
4:43 pm
“Hanson is 4-0 with a 2.01 ERA in five starts vs.Padres, inc. 3-0 with a 1.42 ERA in three starts at Petco Park.”
Yeh because the 390 foot homers he loves to give up don’t go out in this park. Good for him.
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
4:43 pm
I registered as raleighbravefan, with no trouble, except for the CAPTCRAP.
BFChris27
August 29th, 2012
4:44 pm
At least it’s not a 9pm game tonight
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
4:45 pm
Well, time for me to go. Let’s go Braves.
DAP
August 29th, 2012
4:45 pm
i dont see where i would register if i wanted to.
phil
August 29th, 2012
4:45 pm
Will registering now help later when it isn’t even necessary here?
I HATE “improvements” like this….
Fire someone!!
bravesgrl4life
August 29th, 2012
4:45 pm
It says my email already exists. Waiting on the email to tell me my password or help me reset it.
chipontheroad
August 29th, 2012
4:46 pm
changed my name from bf54 to chipontheroad so expect my blurbs of inane drivel to stay the same
hope big red learned something from Kris last night
Jimmy
August 29th, 2012
4:47 pm
“Yeh because the 390 foot homers he loves to give up don’t go out in this park. Good for him.”
Someone mentioned earlier that the balls carries during day games at Petco.
High Socks Mondays
August 29th, 2012
4:47 pm
First, I love Medlen and am thrilled he is having this kind of success. Even when he was rehabbing from Tommy John and he was sitting on the bench, he felt like an integral part of the spirit of the team.
Second, DOB – This is a brilliant piece of writing. Your writing is always good and your reporting is top notch, but this is a particularly well-done piece. Great lede, great use of quotes, and great stats all pulled together in significantly less than 24 hours. I realize my opinion doesn’t really count, but if I were a journalism professor, I would give this article an A+.
MFin04
August 29th, 2012
4:48 pm
“At least it’s not a 9pm game tonight”
Well that just gives us more time to vent after Tommy Hanson goes all Tommy Hanson on us.
I do hope he pitches well, just am not going to hold my breath.
Skeezix
August 29th, 2012
4:49 pm
Medlen was great last night! Simply great! Maddux like. Why was he held back is my question? Why all that “stretching” at Gwinnett silliness? Oh, well–they finally got it right.
Uggla finally did something. Will last night’s HR finally wake him from his long slumber?
addy
August 29th, 2012
4:51 pm
test
smalltownbravesfan
August 29th, 2012
4:51 pm
Medlen will be NL pitcher of the month for August, really going out on a limb here!
Yickitty
August 29th, 2012
4:51 pm
Enter your comments here
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
4:51 pm
This is what a new blog would look like:
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/nude-mural-to-be-painted-over/
This DOB blog is still an old blog.
phil
August 29th, 2012
4:51 pm
Well….
That didn’t work at all….my name is taken, probably by me or the uppercase phil that appears now and then….
What a shame that ruining this thing is apparently at hand. To heck with em.
BFChris27
August 29th, 2012
4:51 pm
MFin04
True
addy
August 29th, 2012
4:51 pm
test
Sundrop Kid
August 29th, 2012
4:53 pm
Don’t be at all surprised but what the next step will be to start charging for digital subscriptions. I know that’s what the Tennessean in Nashville recently went to. You can read the headlines on all the articles, including sports, but you can’t click on any articles to read or comment on them. I know they were already in trouble with their subscriptions, as they are about as liberal-biased as the AJC in their news coverage, etc. Also, they have started limiting posting comments except through a facebook account. They use to have comments galore, but now have dwindled to hardly nothing at all. A friend I had there who still works there says they screwed up big time. I have no problem with registering with limited info, as it’s already that way on several sites I’m on such as the Indy Star, AZ Republic, Knoxville News\Sentinel, and others.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
4:53 pm
yeah I know you was messing, just wondering if I was coming across other than I meant which happens once in a while
cricket
August 29th, 2012
4:53 pm
Someone mentioned earlier that the balls carries during day games at Petco.
better than night game, that’s all
Jimmy
August 29th, 2012
4:54 pm
Page not found, Count.
Bravofan
August 29th, 2012
4:54 pm
So glad this is an earlier game
Spider29
August 29th, 2012
4:55 pm
I really want to see Hanson come out aggressive tonight. And why can’t some people understand the reasoning behind Meds starting the season in the bullpen? The lineup for the game is a little unusual but maybe it will work just fine!
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
4:56 pm
Well….
That didn’t work at all….my name is taken, probably by me or the uppercase phil that appears now and then….
What a shame that ruining this thing is apparently at hand. To heck with em. — phil
Oh, we’ve had a handful of folks who’ve done more ruining than any sign-up procedure ever could.
And what, does registering make it a little harder for a few folks to be vitriol-spewing misanthropes? Because we sure wouldn’t want that.
(Note: I’m not referring to the vast majority of good people here; I’m referring to a handful, and they know exactly who they are.)
phil
August 29th, 2012
4:57 pm
Sundrop is of course exactly right…..we will soon have to pay to stay here….as inevitable as the rising of the tide….
MFin04
August 29th, 2012
4:58 pm
So do you have to register or not?
chipontheroad
August 29th, 2012
4:58 pm
I hope so D O’B on that misanthropes deal
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
4:58 pm
Try this:
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/nude-mural-to-be-painted-over/nRNwh/
This is what a new blog would look like.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
4:59 pm
not yet
Bat Masterson
August 29th, 2012
4:59 pm
What a shame that ruining this thing is apparently at hand. To heck with em.
Don’t give up, phil. Could be a temporary glitch.
reckingball
August 29th, 2012
5:00 pm
misanthropes……..now that’s a $100 word, there
Billy Beaneater
August 29th, 2012
5:00 pm
“And what, does registering make it a little harder for a few folks to be vitriol-spewing misanthropes? ” I resemble that remark
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
5:00 pm
“So do you have to register or not?”
Not for this blog, at this time.
They (DOB?) have not said, but I would expect at some point you will have to register.
It’s a gold rush, so secure your name now. I got in just before ALL the other count_schemulas.
phil
August 29th, 2012
5:00 pm
Well David, I can’t get it to work.
And if you’re singling me out in your post, then thanks a lot.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
5:00 pm
mine has looked that way for days, though I do not use the home page, just the sports one, and have not needed to register so far
nolie
August 29th, 2012
5:01 pm
I went with noleee
Nostradumbazz
August 29th, 2012
5:02 pm
To the Earth, the balls will fall, from the one, with the leg like arms.
Bat Masterson
August 29th, 2012
5:02 pm
This is what a new blog would look like.
There does not seem to be a way to add an image yet.
Heisenberg
August 29th, 2012
5:02 pm
“And what, does registering make it a little harder for a few folks to be vitriol-spewing misanthropes?”
*******************************
Some of us are afraid that buried deep into the signup agreement T&Cs is a clause that will allow the AJC to take 3 or more bloggers and do this to them….
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HUMANCENTiPAD
And we are in too much of a rush to spew vitriol to read the agreement.
chipontheroad
August 29th, 2012
5:03 pm
Gotta go to work rock and fire Tommy
Nostradumbazz
August 29th, 2012
5:03 pm
In other words, I got this feeling, that Uggla is going to get a couple of hits today.
phil
August 29th, 2012
5:03 pm
I like being phil, which is exactly who I actually am…
but apparently I am considered to be a vitriol spewer along the lines of those who are a hundred times worse than my sometimes silliness with a stupid nickname or a criticism.
cricket
August 29th, 2012
5:03 pm
And what, does registering make it a little harder for a few folks to be vitriol-spewing misanthropes?
they’ll find a way around it
reckingball
August 29th, 2012
5:06 pm
??? say what?????
MFin04
August 29th, 2012
5:06 pm
Well I signed up for every (State)bravesfan
So if anyone wants those…I’ll send you a link to my Paypal account.
Billy Beaneater
August 29th, 2012
5:07 pm
Misanthropes? That’s Racist!
chipontheroad
August 29th, 2012
5:07 pm
phil I find you’re cynisism(sic) to be more Will Rodgers like as opposed to say Homer Simpson
ACE
August 29th, 2012
5:07 pm
where is George
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
5:08 pm
So no need to register to get on this blog yet? Nice, I guess… just wonder how many people we will lose cuz they don’t want to register. Or even worse, how many regulars have to change their name cuz it’s common enough where someone else might have taken it ( like Lew, George, Kat, etc.). That’s gonna be the worst part. Guess it “had” to be done though…
Bat Masterson
August 29th, 2012
5:08 pm
Ha, try fil
nolie
August 29th, 2012
5:09 pm
well if it ain’t tied to IP it ain’t gonna chance much of anything about the blog
King of Carrot Flowers
August 29th, 2012
5:09 pm
Nolier Than Thou: “ok I’m getting tired of reading all the gushy Medlen syrup.”
I’m sure you are, man. I’m sure you are. Sucks to be wrong, doesn’t it? Especially when so many here had Medlen pegged right all along.
I’m enjoying reading the Medlen blogs. Lots of good stats and opinions from informed observers, like teammates and ex-players, who might just know a little more than nolie. For most of us, it’s a lot of fun watching Meds pitch every 5th day. Too bad the vocal minority of blog regulars can’t enjoy it too, because they’re so bitter about being wrong as to what he’d do as a starter.
phil
August 29th, 2012
5:09 pm
I’m no cynic, just a spewer of vitriol….
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
5:10 pm
Kat, it seems that all our names are already taken….by us. how is that gonna work out I wonder
I got mine… not to common, I guess.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
5:10 pm
or phil the pill
nolie
August 29th, 2012
5:10 pm
how common is nolie, but I couldn’t get it
Jimmy
August 29th, 2012
5:12 pm
ACE – “where is George”
He was fired.
Bat Masterson
August 29th, 2012
5:12 pm
I’m sure you are, man. I’m sure you are. Sucks to be wrong, doesn’t it? _ King of Carrot Flowers
Don’t be a maroon, bugs bunny
John Leonard
August 29th, 2012
5:12 pm
Dang count,I thought I was going to see something nude.
cricket
August 29th, 2012
5:12 pm
Minnesota officially awarded 2014 All-Star game
nolie
August 29th, 2012
5:12 pm
I put that there just to give you a chance to spew you vitriol Carrothead, I knew you would not fail me.
CB
August 29th, 2012
5:12 pm
phil, I kind of pictured you as a cynical, vitroilic misanthrope.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
5:12 pm
Oh, Gawd, that new format looks horrible…. it’s like that WSB crap. Can it even do our codex scripts? (italics, emoticons)
phil
August 29th, 2012
5:12 pm
No, it didn’t have to be done….but it’s their deal and they’re free to kill it any old way they wish.
Heisenberg
August 29th, 2012
5:13 pm
spewer of vitriol …. put that on a headstone
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
5:13 pm
Kit_Kat, King_George_XXII, phil_the_shill
c’mon have some fun with it
nolie
August 29th, 2012
5:13 pm
guy is always a maroon Bat, under every name he uses
CrαZy
August 29th, 2012
5:13 pm
There does not seem to be a way to add an image yet.
Yes there is I posted a comment and my picture showed up….
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/nude-mural-to-be-painted-over/nRNwh/
tony austin
August 29th, 2012
5:13 pm
Sometimes when I am on a different sight and I want to reply to a comment the site requires you to register. If there’s a good chance I won’t go back to that sight I just keep my comment to myself and move on. The same should happen here.
If someone is a regular then signing up should not be a problem. Registering and waiting for a confirmation email should keep most the vitriol-spewing misanthropes away.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
5:14 pm
We get profile pics, it seems like… wonder if there’s an ignore. At least it will cut down on the ignorant trolls, that’s a good thing…
phil
August 29th, 2012
5:14 pm
I think I saw some misanthropes on Animal Planet on Sunday night…..
Sundrop Kid
August 29th, 2012
5:15 pm
Yes, not that I know I’m on the list, but I would consider it an honor to be one of the much-revered(and reviled) “vitriol-spewing misanthropes”. I find that comment rather opprobrious and totally uncalled for.
Bat Masterson
August 29th, 2012
5:15 pm
Ain’t that the truth, nolie.
MFin04
August 29th, 2012
5:15 pm
“We get profile pics”
I call Young Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie!
nolie
August 29th, 2012
5:15 pm
I seriously doubt that just registering will keep them away, anybody willing to have a conversation with 5 or 6 versions of himself at the same timeis not gonna miss all that fun just because he has to sign up first
PMC
August 29th, 2012
5:16 pm
I keep waiting for Prado to start guest blogging over here.
Heisenberg
August 29th, 2012
5:16 pm
Wonder if Cynical Vitriolic Misanthrope name is taken. Maybe I will go register.
Jimmy
August 29th, 2012
5:17 pm
OK, got to run.
See you good folks later.
And all you vitriol-spewing misanthropes too!
GO BARVES!!
nolie
August 29th, 2012
5:17 pm
I still like phil the pill……..
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
5:18 pm
I call Young Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie!
Kate Upton….
or maybe one of those really weird looking BMac pictures. Or Greinke!!! Yes, that’s the one.
CB
August 29th, 2012
5:18 pm
How about real phil?
Prado©
August 29th, 2012
5:18 pm
Oh , I’m here all the time
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
5:18 pm
Six Braves minor leaguers have been selected to play in the Arizona Fall League for the Phoenix Desert Dogs: right-handed pitchers Cory Rasmus and Zeke Spruill (Double-A Mississippi) and Gus Schlosser (high-A Lynchburg); catcher Matt Kennelly (Mississippi); SS Nick Ahmed (Lynchburg); 3B Edward Salcedo (Lynchburg)
nolie
August 29th, 2012
5:19 pm
saw that earlier, interesting choices.
Jay Dubu
August 29th, 2012
5:21 pm
DOB,
Any insight on who the Braves plan to bring up to the big club in September when the rosters expand?
Jay Dubu
August 29th, 2012
5:21 pm
DOB,
Any insight on who the Braves plan to bring up to the big club in September when the rosters expand?
King of Carrot Flowers
August 29th, 2012
5:21 pm
Nolier Than Thou: “under every name he uses”
Your conspiracy theories are every bit as off base as your predictions about Medlen’s ability as a starter. Why not ask AJC to do a little research on me, see if I’m posting under more than one name. I got nothing to hide.
Sounds like poor wittle nolie’s getting picked on by lots of people. I’m sure that’s a complete coincidence, your posts had nothing to do with it.
Tip O' the Cap
August 29th, 2012
5:21 pm
Hmmm. Registration. Sounds like a vote for more government.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
5:22 pm
I should really register a bunch of names…. you know, TheOnlyGreinkeFan, TheOnlyJuanDetractor, TheOnlyHansonDevaluer, TheOnlyUgglaFan, TheOnlyRevFan….
Maybe even continue on into other states… TheOnly(State)BravesFan. I’ll see y’all later, I’ve got accounts to make!
vitriolic misantrope
August 29th, 2012
5:22 pm
Wow – at least 3/4 of the posts today are mindless blather about the blog…
Good thing Meds is pitching shutouts. Any Bravo who dares give up a few, loses the game (right, Maholm?).
Uh oh, there I go again…is this misanthropy, or merely stating the obvious?
Stuart
August 29th, 2012
5:22 pm
DOB, do you think that Teheran and/or Delgado will turn things around this year or next? Both seem to be getting shelled in the minors, so I doubt either will be brought up anytime soon. Should they be used as trade bait, to see if anyone will bite? The Braves already gave away their one young arm showing promise (despite the injury) to the Cubs…
MFin04
August 29th, 2012
5:22 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan – If you aren’t Greinke, you should be banned.
Now maybe Efrim will be Verlander’s fastball or something…
Heisenberg
August 29th, 2012
5:23 pm
Salcedo is back at 3B? Thought he was moved to OF?
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
5:23 pm
I actually just succeeded in registering as….vitriol spewer.
i kid you not….so i might as well get used to it now.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
5:25 pm
Wow, I so McFanned that 5:18….
Sopheee
August 29th, 2012
5:25 pm
You can be lowercase_phil.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
5:25 pm
Are they really gonna make us change our names and all such just to be here?
I enjoy this place. oh well.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
5:27 pm
Carrot, you are full of crap. you have just started posting under that name recently, but are obviously aware of what has transpired on the blog for a long long time, and have built up enough animus against scoots and I to feel the need to attach every time you appear.
what a stupid douche
Oh wait, don’t tell me, you are a “long time reader, new poster” right?
nolie
August 29th, 2012
5:27 pm
Carrot, you are full of crap. you have just started posting under that name recently, but are obviously aware of what has transpired on the blog for a long long time, and have built up enough animus against scoots and I to feel the need to attach every time you appear.
what a stupid ouche
Oh wait, don’t tell me, you are a “long time reader, new poster” right?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
5:27 pm
Now maybe Efrim will be Verlander’s fastball or something…
Need to find him a picture that says prospect hugger or something… find a tree/pole with the word prospects, and show some dude hugging that thing with his dear life.
bobbymahlon
August 29th, 2012
5:27 pm
For one of the few times I agree with Nolie I have said all along that Francisco stats will suffer when he faces lefthand pitching. So far this year he has only started against right hand pitching and if you remember Chipper said one night that he would not leave Francisco in the lurch batting against a right hander so Chipper played.
CB
August 29th, 2012
5:28 pm
phil, it could be worse, you could have a two letter name.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
5:29 pm
This is completely %$*)_(*^ing absurd. I can’t re-set my password because they say my name and email already exist (no shYt – I’ve been using them almost since the blog started) and I can’t remember what my old password was.
But they tell me I seem to be familiar to them.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
5:29 pm
Sounds like poor wittle nolie’s getting picked on by lots of people. I’m sure that’s a complete coincidence, your posts had nothing to do with it….carrot
even you can not be stupid enough to think that anybody here actually believes, so I wonder what you think you are getting out of such stupid comments.
Nobody who has spent any amount of time here does nor recognize you for who you are no matter what silly name you assume
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
5:30 pm
But at least it’s the name you chose, CB….I think.
I want to be phil, not lowercase phil or vitriol spewer or anything else….i may have to take my ball and go home and pout.
Jay Dubu
August 29th, 2012
5:30 pm
If the Braves have to play in the wildcard game, Meds should get the start, and have Huddy ready to open the next series.
Jay Dubu
August 29th, 2012
5:31 pm
Who was the player that caught the scout’s eyes last Arizona Fall League from the Braves?
Bat Masterson
August 29th, 2012
5:31 pm
Yes there is I posted a comment and my picture showed up…. CraZy
Okay, got it. I’ve got to get another pic. That one cuts off the top of my derby
nolie
August 29th, 2012
5:31 pm
obviously they have a few bugs to work out
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
5:32 pm
Lew – click forgot password, it should send a reset to your email account.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
5:33 pm
Lew – just change your name to The Artist or something like that….i had to become vitriol spewer just to get the stupid thing to work.
MikeY
August 29th, 2012
5:33 pm
For those posting on next year’s roster, realize that Sheets, Durbin, Wilson, Ross, Diaz, Hinske, Overbay, Johnson, and Bourn are free agents. Seems like we have enough pitching, even with Sheets and Durbin gone. But we are going to need a BU catcher, a LF (assuming Prado spends most of his time at 3B), a CF, hopefully a RH bat that can play 1B and corner OF.
I really do hope we can re-sign Bourn, but it will likely take something like $130M, 7 years. After all the puts and takes, and arb raises, looks like we will have $25M or so to spend…so re-signing Bourn looks unlikely.
I would ike to see Bourn and Ross and Johnson back. And Durbin would be good too, but not necessary.
MFin04
August 29th, 2012
5:33 pm
No one take MFin05 in case I have a child or something…
Kat
August 29th, 2012
5:34 pm
Haha count.
Bat Masterson
August 29th, 2012
5:34 pm
Yes there is I posted a comment and my picture showed up….
Okay, CrarZy, I found it. I need a new pic that one cuts off the top of my derby.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
5:34 pm
Lew – send me your credit card information.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
5:35 pm
I will miss you all once we’re punted outta here in the coming days….
even you, sundrop but not you, carrot.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
5:35 pm
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
5:34 pm
Lew – send me your credit card information.
************
LOL!!
CB
August 29th, 2012
5:36 pm
phil, it won’t allow two letters. It has to be at least three. CB will be nevermore.
Sundrop Kid
August 29th, 2012
5:36 pm
“nolie” should re-register under “resident name-caller”. He’s usually good for at least several “stupids, fools, or morons” per blog it seems. Also, just wondering which is worse, a “vitriol-spewing misanthrope” or a “snippy-snarky, condescending know-it-all”, of which there are 2 or 3 consistently on here.
Astral
August 29th, 2012
5:37 pm
sundrop most likely is carrot
Astral
August 29th, 2012
5:38 pm
“nolie” should re-register under “resident name-caller” @ Sundrop
like I said, the same mindless tool
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
5:38 pm
The change has begun?
CB
August 29th, 2012
5:39 pm
Sundrop is PL.
Sopheee
August 29th, 2012
5:39 pm
eee’s for life…not that I have any choice anymore.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
5:40 pm
While there are several, Sundrop, attacking nolie isn’t necessary.
He only calls the idiots idiots.
King of Carrot Flowers
August 29th, 2012
5:40 pm
Nolier Than Thou,
Actually, I’m every poster on this blog. You got it, genius. Medlen’s scoreless innings streak is exceeded only by your current streak of being wrong about everything.
“obviously aware of everything that transpired on the blog for a long long time”
Obviously. One of my favorite past times is to comment on posts I read on this blog 12 years ago. What on earth are you talking about? You sound more ignorant by each day. By each post, actually.
I have no animus toward scoots. I confused him with you shortly after starting to post here. I apologized at the time. I owe him a bigger apology now that I know what a stupid douche you are. That must have been terribly insulting to scoots.
Astral
August 29th, 2012
5:40 pm
Sundrop is PL, and Carrot
Sundrop Kid
August 29th, 2012
5:41 pm
Astral has to be “nolie”, no doubt in my mind.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
5:42 pm
Braves lineup vs. Stults:
Bourn 1-7 (single) with a K .143/.143/.143/.286
Johnson 3-6 (3 singles) with 1 RBI .500/.500/.500/1.000
Heyward 2-4 (single, HR) with 1 RBI, 1 K .500/.500/1.250/1.750
Jones 2-7 (single, HR) with 1 RBI, 1K .286/.286/.714/1.000
Prado 4-8 (3 singles, 1 triple) with 2 RBI, 1K .500 /.500/.750/1.250
Ross 1-1 (single) 1.000/1.000/1.000/2.000
Uggla 2-12 (1 single, 1 HR) with 1 RBI, 1K .167/.167/.417/.583
Janish 0-5 (0 Ks) .000/.000/.000/.000
Not one Braves player has walked against this guy…
The Braves team is hitting .250/.261/.412/.673 career against Stults, in 69 PAs (17 Hits, 1 triple, 3 HR, 7 RBI, 7 K) . The only hitter on the team yet to face Stults in Juan Fran.
CrαZy
August 29th, 2012
5:43 pm
I should really register a bunch of namesTOBF
Not gonna lie I registered 2 times… once using my email and once using my Twitter account…
aka_CraZy and CraZyTraDeMaN
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2012
5:43 pm
Tomahawkin’ would be pleased – Petco rocking some old school Mariah…
Bat Masterson
August 29th, 2012
5:44 pm
phil, it won’t allow two letters. It has to be at least three. CB will be nevermore.
Go with something Tarzan like …………….. meCB
Astral
August 29th, 2012
5:44 pm
your posts are not only insulting to nolie, but to the rest of us too. You are obviously under the impression that we are too stupid to recognize the same constant attacks under different names over the years, with the same denials couched in the same language.
You are really a pitiful little fool
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
5:46 pm
nolie” should re-register under “resident name-caller”
I thought I was the name caller….
abeeeewright
August 29th, 2012
5:46 pm
I’m not sure what people expect on the registering. There’s no prohibition from registering 1000 different blog monikers. Unless they search the database to block by (probably fake) email address, the same crazies can keep on keepin’ on.
the truth...
August 29th, 2012
5:46 pm
I haven’t had to register anything yet…..but maybe this post will be the start of it…………
Not like I have to be here or have to read the AJC.com
Neither cnn.com or foxnews.com require me to logon to read the articles…………..so if the ajc.com genius’s want to drive folks away that works too.
abeeeewright
August 29th, 2012
5:48 pm
What registration will do is keep folks from posting in the guise of other folks, since the system will not let a person register (and therefore post) under a name that has already been registered.
For instance, Kat who posted on the first page that her name was taken, will have to choose a different blog moniker.
Since the thing which most offends me is the stealing of other people’s monikers and posting crap, there’s nothing but good about this kind of registration.
No. 1 Braves Fan
August 29th, 2012
5:48 pm
Sounds like some of you regulars are not excited about having to
set up an account.
Train Wreck Bystander
August 29th, 2012
5:48 pm
@ abeeeewright
Erm… you have to use a real mail address in order to receive your activation link.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
5:48 pm
no more CB? That caint happen
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
5:49 pm
Then, the email that was s’posed to come to me took about 10 minutes to arrive. Not a big deal, I guess, but not exactly confidence-inspiring after all the other issues.
Mine went to spam…. and took 30 mins to come in. Quite strange. And I used the email address that I used before we needed logins. Those that are having issues with email addresses, I am seriously confused as to why. No tech support from me, unfortunately
connor
August 29th, 2012
5:49 pm
this is all setting up for the Braves to take the NL East Title
1. Braves have incredibly easy September
2. Strasburg is gone soon
3. Nats have never been in a playoff race
4. No way in hell Braves have a repeat happen
In Fact, instead of going 9-18, (last years September record) I bet they go 18-9
nolie
August 29th, 2012
5:49 pm
forget it Astral, you are wasting your time, but thanks anyway. He will be around forever doing the same thing….
the truth...
August 29th, 2012
5:49 pm
DOB….so what is the scoop with the registration thing?
So far I am able to post today without registering, so am I somehow already registered?
No matter what anyone says there is a dual purpose to the resistration system….one to provide more demographic info to prospective advertisers (such as age group)…..
…and one to manage the crazies a bit better …..maybe
King of Carrot Flowers
August 29th, 2012
5:50 pm
Astral is obviously Nolier Than Thou. The same mindless tool.
I’m sure the AJC could clear up for you real quick whether I’m the same poster as Sundrop. Could it be that more than one poster has formed similar opinions of Nolie after reading his daily blather? Oh, I just refuse to believe that…
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
5:51 pm
DOB,
Any insight on who the Braves plan to bring up to the big club in September when the rosters expand? — Jay Dubu
Nothing new to add since addressing it two days ago. Here’s what Fredi said then, in second note here:
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/08/27/janish-has-proven-to-be-key-addition-for-braves/
I asked again today and he said they’d add some players Saturday and then some more next week. Don’t want to take all of them from Triple-A team before its season ends Monday.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
5:52 pm
connor is a vitriol spewer….
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
5:52 pm
I understand why the AJC wants to do this… good premise, it just might drive away good people than the bad ones it stops. Not to mention that since there are so many AJC users, quite a few names overlap, as I’m sure is the case on this blog. Some of those names might’ve gotten registered for regular users of Rodney HO’s blog or some other (not as popular) blog.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
5:53 pm
I can see why you think that Carrot, with you long history of multi-names. Not everybody is a scum like you though.
your attacks have become more frequent over the years though, nobody in the ward paying any attention to you at all anymore?
Murph
August 29th, 2012
5:53 pm
Registration is great… except that some dingleberry went through and registered a bunch of other people’s monikers.
There is only one Murph. But according to the AJC, that is not me.
connor
August 29th, 2012
5:53 pm
connor is a vitriol spewer….
what is that?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
5:55 pm
From a friend on twitter, it’s kinda true
_____@_____
Not gonna be able to watch tonights game cuz of church but I’m kinda ok with it cuz Hanson pitching stresses me out #GoBraves
nolie
August 29th, 2012
5:56 pm
I bet that is a glitch and not a dingleberry, though with folks like carrothead around you can never be certain…and again I am not seeing why it would drive away any sincere poster, though I can see that it might stop a few newbies from posting.
Sundrop Kid
August 29th, 2012
5:58 pm
I’m out of here for good. Will not be registering. Just tired of the silly, immature name-calling by the same ones over and over, and as DOB said, you know who you are. Sad thing is, it’s usually about some minimal, non-important matter. Be good all, and enjoy the game. Go Braves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
5:58 pm
connor – kidding
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
6:00 pm
Is Sundrop Ward?
Heisenberg
August 29th, 2012
6:00 pm
Well I registered. Gotta protect the moniker. So the confirmation email goes right to the spam folder.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
6:00 pm
bye Sundrop, see ya around
abeeeewright
August 29th, 2012
6:00 pm
“Erm… you have to use a real mail address in order to receive your activation link.”
Thanks for that! I got the email to activate but blew it off as more spam.
Heisenberg
August 29th, 2012
6:00 pm
now I gotta go
nolie
August 29th, 2012
6:02 pm
hope you make it in time Heisen……
abeeeewright
August 29th, 2012
6:06 pm
I’ve participated in a number of message boards, blogs, etc. over the years. Registration has never seemed to deter folks from “getting up, getting to it, and getting involved.”
nolie
August 29th, 2012
6:07 pm
if it is just tied to an Email address it is pretty useless
Train Wreck Bystander
August 29th, 2012
6:09 pm
The peanut gallery at Streak for the Cash favors the Braves to win, 96.5% to 3.5%.
http://streak.espn.go.com/en/entry
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
6:11 pm
Just tired of the silly, immature name-calling by the same ones over and over, and as DOB said, you know who you are.
Talking about yourself, dude?
So the confirmation email goes right to the spam folder.
Ah, cuz the new format is trash… where else would they send the confirmation email?
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
6:11 pm
spam is much like vitriol….
Frumpy
August 29th, 2012
6:14 pm
DOB, do the braves recommend players they want to play Arizona ball or do clubs just scout players who are interested? Was just wondering the the braves selected these players because they see a future in them? Being an Aussie myself, just good to see Kennelly going.
CB
August 29th, 2012
6:14 pm
Bat and nolie, I chose CB- Blind Squirrel. Blind Squirrel is my fantasy baseball name.
Bat Masterson
August 29th, 2012
6:16 pm
CB_
Should be easy for a nut like me to remember you by.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
6:16 pm
I like it. CB. even a blind acorn will find a squirrel once in a while
nolie
August 29th, 2012
6:18 pm
Braves make the selection, though it is sometimes hard to figger out exactly why with every player, though i am sure they have a reason
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
6:21 pm
Padres hitting Tommy Hanson well… in 72 PAs, he has allowed 17 Hits, 5 doubles, 1 triple, 3 HR, 8 RBI, 9 BBs, and 12 Ks. The team is hitting .283/.403/.550/.953 against him.
Maybin, Cabrera, Headley, Venable are all hitting .300 or above against Hanson. Each of those guys has at least 8 ABs against Tommy. Kotsay and Quentin are hitting TH at .500 and .667, respectively, but that’s in only 4 and 3 ABs.
Lil Red
August 29th, 2012
6:21 pm
So change is coming. And all without asking me.
Ebenezer Snerdberg
August 29th, 2012
6:23 pm
I STILL THINK WHEN THE FAT DUMMY’S PETS GET BACK HE’LL PUT MEDLEN BACK IN THE WREN PEN BECAUSE, “WE JUST CAN’T AFFORD NOT TO HAVE HIM THERE!”
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
6:25 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
6:21 pm
Padres hitting Tommy Hanson well… in 72 PAs, he has allowed 17 Hits, 5 doubles, 1 triple, 3 HR, 8 RBI, 9 BBs, and 12 Ks. The team is hitting .283/.403/.550/.953 against him.
Maybin, Cabrera, Headley, Venable are all hitting .300 or above against Hanson. Each of those guys has at least 8 ABs against Tommy. Kotsay and Quentin are hitting TH at .500 and .667, respectively, but that’s in only 4 and 3 ABs.
***************
You’re not suggesting we’re doomed, are you?
nolie
August 29th, 2012
6:25 pm
which pets would that be, and where are they coming back from
Brava
August 29th, 2012
6:26 pm
Go Braves!!!
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
6:27 pm
Watching the interview just now with Uggla and I just can’t get mad at the guy anymore. He’s so nice and tells you he pretty much stinks right now. He said he’s working hard at it everyday and he sounded discouraged on why things aren’t working for him. Let’s all hope the guy figures something out and he rides out a hot streak way in to the postseason.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
6:27 pm
EBENEZER = vitriol spewer, like phil
nolie
August 29th, 2012
6:28 pm
you mean phil the pill?
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
6:29 pm
Take the ball to right field some….
problem probably mostly solved….
Maybe it’s just harder than I think it is.
But what would I know, as nothing more than a spewer of vitriol…..
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
6:29 pm
now it’s vitriol spewer from the sewer….sigh.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
6:31 pm
Phil, no, I’m not…. just stating the facts
nolie
August 29th, 2012
6:31 pm
DOB really hurt your feelings, huh?
but it is harder than it looks, if everybody could do it, everybody would….
Disgusted
August 29th, 2012
6:33 pm
I hope that Uggla can get hot for September, can he raise his avg to the .220’s and wind up with 25 HRS.
If he can do that it will help and he won’t be a BUMB anymore.
Disgusted
August 29th, 2012
6:34 pm
In spite of Uggla’s grotesque bad streaks, he is likable in that he always busts hit tail.
I really do not want to have to BOO him anymore cause he is a stand up guy who gives it his all.
Just give a good September Dan and all is forgiven.
Bat Masterson
August 29th, 2012
6:35 pm
Sure would like to see a strong start from Hanson.
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
6:35 pm
Oh man… wasn’t Eric Stults the one who shut down the Braves at turner field?
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
6:38 pm
Bourn has really tailed off.
King of Carrot Flowers
August 29th, 2012
6:39 pm
Nolier Than Thou,
If you honestly believe I’ve been “attacking” you for years under different names, or that I’ve even been aware of who you are, then I’m going to have to stop ragging on you. It’s starting to feel like bullying a retarded kid. That certainly wasn’t my intention. As arrogant and misguided as you are, you had me tricked into thinking you’re of “normal” intelligence.
Medlen’s scoreless innings streak is exceeded only by your paranoia and narcissism. Okay, I couldn’t resist.
flange1
August 29th, 2012
6:39 pm
Can someone point me to where I am supposed to register?
I can’t find any sort of link!
Thanks
bravofan
August 29th, 2012
6:40 pm
what is all this business about registering?
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
6:40 pm
JC Brave, yeah he was.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
6:41 pm
register at the top right of the home page…
Jay
August 29th, 2012
6:42 pm
AJC,
Did anyone even BOTHER to test the new site on an iPad? The front page won’t load. Come on guys, get with the times.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
6:42 pm
If you honestly believe I’ve been “attacking” you for years under different names, or that I’ve even been aware of who you are, then I’m going to have to stop ragging on you….Carrot
said almost the exact same words three or four names ago. like I always say, liars need a better memory to keep this up
bravofan
August 29th, 2012
6:43 pm
Jay:
Agreed it is just awful on the ipad!!
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
6:45 pm
Good pitch
bravofan
August 29th, 2012
6:45 pm
Jay: I am going to email the ajc this was in the article about the new website.
If you have story ideas or comments about the content on ajc.com and accessatlanta.com, please email us at listen@ajc.com
Brava
August 29th, 2012
6:45 pm
What is this registration everyone is talking about? I haven’t had to do it.
5150 UOAD
August 29th, 2012
6:45 pm
Win baby
bravofan
August 29th, 2012
6:45 pm
brava: I believe it is because we were grandfathered in
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
6:46 pm
Gearrin entered a 4-4 game in 9th inning today and gave up 5 runs in 9-4 loss.
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
6:47 pm
Im just glad Headley didn’t hit that 89 MPH belt high fastball out of the park…..
Brava
August 29th, 2012
6:47 pm
Oh, okay. Thanks, bravofan.
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
6:48 pm
Somebody mentioned in his last start that Hanson can’t command the fastball, and that sounds about right. That should be your number 1 pitch and if you can’t control that you’re in some real trouble I would think.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
6:48 pm
too bad, but i have never trusted Gearrin
flange1
August 29th, 2012
6:48 pm
Thanks count!
I finally found it!
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
6:49 pm
Hanson has thrown one fastball for a strike.
bravofan
August 29th, 2012
6:49 pm
brava: no problem that is all I can think of
One Big Dummy
August 29th, 2012
6:50 pm
You know, you can take less than 20 pitches to get out of an inning, Tommy!
nolie
August 29th, 2012
6:50 pm
hook about all he has left at times
Animus
August 29th, 2012
6:51 pm
If he doesn’t find his fastball control, it’s gonna be a short day for Tommy.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
6:51 pm
This is how you redesign a website:
http://bostonglobe.com/
Works on laptops, iPad/tablets, and phones.
Boston Globe is a pay site so you prolly can’t read too many articles, if any, but pull it up on your phone or iPad to see what I’m talking about. It’s called Responsive Design and it’s the only way I will design a website these days, and have for about 2 years now.
Am I surprised that is what passed for a redesign from the Cox Media Group? No.
jeffrey d
August 29th, 2012
6:51 pm
Well the new site is hardly 12 hours old. I’ll bet we’ll all have to register soon
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
6:52 pm
Chipper just got another standing ovation as he came to plate, last game at S.D. Tipped his helmet.
BaseballTopFan
August 29th, 2012
6:53 pm
Baseball Top Fan believes that the Atlanta Braves have a very good pitching staff,
The Braves have a realistic chance to win the World Series.
Baseball Top Fan would like to wish the Atlanta Braves and future Hall Of Famer (HOF) Chipper Jones the best of luck and success.
BaseballTopFan@Yahoo.com
nolie
August 29th, 2012
6:53 pm
man I am sooo tired of lefties
Lew
August 29th, 2012
6:54 pm
count and phil – Already tried the forgot password and tried adding a couple of numbers to Lew to change it up, but it won’t let me reset the password or take a new name because it keeps telling me my email is already taken. Apparently they already have me registered and if I don’t have to keep logging in where I’d need the forgotten password, I’ll be all right.
If I have to keep logging in, I guess I’ll be forgotten like my password.
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
6:54 pm
Hanson’s problems are simple to me. Everything, from long innings, hitters adjusting to him as the game goes on, all that has to be because he’s having to go to slow, loopy stuff for outs.
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
6:54 pm
This lefty owns us too??
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
6:55 pm
Next year look for JJ Hoover and Aroldis Chapman to form a fearsome 8th 9th inning combo for the Reds.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
6:56 pm
Yadier Molina @Yadimolina04
Thanks for praying for my health,,im ok ,,thanks ,,,, gracias por orar por mi salud ,, estoy bn gracias
Good news. that was scary.
Brava and others: From what I gather, we will all need to register at some point. DOB said something about it being used to help prevent trolls and hateful comments. If I were you, I’d try to get it done soon before someone gets your name.
CaptainMudd
August 29th, 2012
6:56 pm
Line-up interestingly different.
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
6:58 pm
How mane lefties have the Braves faced this year for Christ’s sake?
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
6:58 pm
many*
Ken Stallings
August 29th, 2012
6:59 pm
I don’t think the registration requirement is implemented yet in the sports section blogs. However, it is implemented for the AJC website in general. I’m glad to hear that registration will be required to post blog repllies.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
6:59 pm
Lew – I feel you to some degree. It stripped out my underscore in count_schemula and there is no way I could find to email anyone about it. It said – and _ were valid but it won’t let me use them.
This morning I had to send several forgot password requests. About 4 hours later they all showed up at once.
Watching various parts of the website light up and flicker has been kinda painful.
I suspect there are two dudes in a basement somewhere who are having the worst week of their life and won’t see any sleep for the next few days.
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
7:00 pm
You’d think Braves would be getting better at the LHP since they face them so much though. Guess not.
Animus
August 29th, 2012
7:02 pm
Ignoring the FB – waiting for a breaking ball (hanging) to hit.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
7:02 pm
might have to throw all curves
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
7:03 pm
You’d think Braves would be getting better at the LHP since they face them so much though. Guess not.
Apparently they are getting more and more exposed instead of making the proper adjustments. And a lefties heavy lineup doesn’t help their case either.
Bronke
August 29th, 2012
7:04 pm
Medlen Is great but not this team on the field tonight. I think we are in for a long night. Hope the Braves can at least get a few hits! Sorry for the pessimist attitude but the Braves have not been spanking the ball around against anyone as of late. Hope the prove me wrong.
Tina
August 29th, 2012
7:05 pm
Good luck Hanson your going to need it today as are offense cant hit leftys or anybody below 90 MPH. Not going to be easy against Phils with Lee and Doc.
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
7:05 pm
WOW!
Bravefaninok
August 29th, 2012
7:05 pm
nolie
August 29th, 2012
5:48 pm
no more CB? That caint happen
try C_B or @CB
Brava
August 29th, 2012
7:05 pm
WTG, Bourney!
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
7:05 pm
mmm pasta fazool – chard, where have you been my whole life?
Hugo Z Hackenbush
August 29th, 2012
7:06 pm
Say, that wasn’t a bad catch at all!
Animus
August 29th, 2012
7:06 pm
Fantastic Catch – Top10. Defense trying to help Tommy, some runs would be nice.
MIBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:06 pm
Great catch, Michael!
nolie
August 29th, 2012
7:06 pm
u own Michael a prime rib dinner Tommy
CaptainMudd
August 29th, 2012
7:06 pm
good effort and result
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
7:07 pm
At least no one has been pounding the ball AGAINST the Braves either.
Ken Stallings
August 29th, 2012
7:07 pm
Hanson owes Michael Bourn and Heyward both steak dinners tonight! Bourn snagged one to his left and then immediately thereafter made an even more impressive catch to his right! Hanson is once again getting drilled but living lucky!
Stoned Mountain
August 29th, 2012
7:08 pm
Sign Michael Bourn.
Kat
August 29th, 2012
7:08 pm
Jimmy @ 4:19 pm .. not NYC.. Albany, NY. (There is a whole state attached to NYC
) Although most the time you have to clarify with people when you say you’re from NY – since almost everyone assumes NY=NYC. In Vegas now.. with a delayed flight back home..but free wifi so I’ll take it.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
7:08 pm
count – They’ve responded to me, they just won’t let me use my email address to make any changes and I don’t want to change it – been using it for years and there’s nothing wrong with it.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
7:08 pm
Janish just can’t stay above 200
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
7:09 pm
“u owe Michael a prime rib dinner Tommy”
Nah. Hanson isn’t a giver of food. Can’t you tell?
nolie
August 29th, 2012
7:12 pm
looking like a toughie so far
Kat
August 29th, 2012
7:13 pm
Agreed it’s a good idea to require people to register – was too lazy to think of a different name though when I was waiting for my plane in SD. I do like counts kit_kat ..hah, very clever. No biggy, we’ll all figure it out. Now on to the game.. might pay $5 on the plane to watch it on mlb.tv. Curious to see if mlb.tv can handle plane wifi– they barely can handle providing a good product to my home wifi
keeping it real
August 29th, 2012
7:14 pm
Hanson is just painful to watch. He has lost 6 mph on his fastball since he came up and throws his 89er as straight as an arrow. I wish we could trade him to an AL team. I don’t ever want to see him pitch again.
Lookie Lookie
August 29th, 2012
7:14 pm
For those fans new to baseball, let this game be an example of the difference between an effective pitcher and a pitcher who is struggling somewhat.
Medlen shows how it’s done. He has a number of pitches, but everything is working off his fastball. He can throw it for a strike whenever he wants to. He stikes guys out with it @ 90. His fastball sets up his other pitches.
Now look at Hanson. He can’t throw a fastball for a strike, therefore he has to pray the opposition doesn’t tee off on his breaking ball when he hangs a few (and yes he will hang a few)
If Hanson could get back to basics and learn to throw a fastball for a strike, then perhaps he would become more effective…… at least until his arm falls off from that dart throwing motion.
Bravefaninok
August 29th, 2012
7:14 pm
I was able to register and keep my name.
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
7:14 pm
I know by now we have to lead the league in giving up hits to the opposing pitcher….88 MPH down the middle is very hittable….
Animus
August 29th, 2012
7:15 pm
Even the opposing pitcher hits Tommy’s FB – straight and slow. Sad.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
7:15 pm
1st Base Runs Saved
Teixeira, Mark 16
Gonzalez, Adrian 15
Pujols, Albert 7
Votto, Joey 7
Sanchez, Gaby 6
LaRoche, Adam 5
Loney, James 5
Rizzo, Anthony 5
Belt, Brandon 4
Morrison, Logan 4
Smoak, Justin 4
Alonso, Yonder 3
Freeman, Freddie 3
Barton, Daric 2
Carp, Mike 2
Goldschmidt, Paul 2
Helton, Todd 2
Ishikawa, Travis 2
Prado, Martin 2
One Big Dummy
August 29th, 2012
7:16 pm
Hanson must LOVE following Medlen in the rotation, it puts a spotlight directly on his mediocrity!
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
7:16 pm
Good play, another bad pitch though. Luck
Lookie Lookie
August 29th, 2012
7:16 pm
Fastball for a strike, doesn’t mean fastball down the middle.
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
7:16 pm
Hanson after Medlen is like Susan Boyle after Catherine Zeta Jones.
Kat
August 29th, 2012
7:17 pm
I’m in a blackout area damn! onto vipbox.tv
Rico
August 29th, 2012
7:17 pm
Hanson is good trade material in the off season.
CaptainMudd
August 29th, 2012
7:17 pm
Hanson….not looking like he has a pitch to fool a Padre or two.
Animus
August 29th, 2012
7:18 pm
FF ranked that low for 1B? I’m really surprised he’s only credited with saving 3 runs. Guess I’m going to have to pay closer attention. And Prado has 2??? This is what his 2nd game over there this year???
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
7:19 pm
That’s a rule book strike at the letters, don’t see it called much these days but its a rule book definition strike.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
7:19 pm
lack of range Animus, defensive metrics of all kinds are very range oriented
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
7:21 pm
I absolutely believe that about Freeman. Half the time he’s like Herman Munster out there. Digs balls well.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:21 pm
Freeman has saved just 3 runs? WTH! Throw that list out the window, it’s trash.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
7:23 pm
Just got home. I am guessing that Hanson has looked pretty pedestrian with his stuff again tonight.
CaptainMudd
August 29th, 2012
7:23 pm
Who knows….seems like he has an extra gear he can still tap and his record suggests perhaps the takers {for his potential skill set} outnumber the nontakers…Hanson is ok. Nothing really special but certainly ok.
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
August 29th, 2012
7:23 pm
so i guess w/ prado at 1B tonight, are we no longer going to use hinske? love prado, but he needs a rest too.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
7:23 pm
he lets way too many balls get past him TOBF
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
August 29th, 2012
7:24 pm
hanson/jurrjens package trade this off-season, a scott boras special!!
Animus
August 29th, 2012
7:24 pm
I understand about FF’s lack of range, but…as many as he digs out and with the errors he prevents – I would have guessed more runs saved. But…it is what it is. I liked all the other lists you pulled up, so I can’t complain about one bad one
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:25 pm
Heyward seems to be challenging Uggla for most Ks on the team.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
7:25 pm
lefties just eat him up with outside slow stuff
CaptainMudd
August 29th, 2012
7:25 pm
I’ll say this also about Freddy; he did a swift job last night getting those tags down for Meds’ P/O.
Dave
August 29th, 2012
7:25 pm
I was a big fan of Tommy when he first came up but like many have already said it’s really hard to watch him pitch now. You can get away with throwing a ball down the middle at times, when you’re throwing 93-95 but not when you’re topping out at 90 and it’s it’s straight. Still not ready to give up on him though. He has a lot of work to do this off-season. Definitely needs to get in better shape.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
7:25 pm
Jason sure is susceptible to the breaking ball when behind in the count.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:26 pm
he lets way too many balls get past him TOBF
I know that, but I think he saves quite a few runs by saving our infielders from bad throws….
One Big Dummy
August 29th, 2012
7:27 pm
Freeman picks so many out of the dirt that I don’t see that stat as being correct.
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
7:27 pm
“Heyward seems to be challenging Uggla for most Ks on the team.”
It’s closer than alot of folks think, only 13 more K’s for Uggla….
nolie
August 29th, 2012
7:27 pm
he is susceptible to a breaking ball from a lefty most all the time. It is what he needs to improve a lot to take the next step. a demon against righties
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
7:28 pm
Again, passive baserunning costs Atlanta a run.
CaptainMudd
August 29th, 2012
7:28 pm
Reluctantly….many MLB hitters get fooled and swing just like Freddy at the low outside pitches.
CaptainMudd
August 29th, 2012
7:30 pm
Ahh….ex. Rossy!
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
7:30 pm
Soft toss lefty….shadows…..nightmare.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
7:31 pm
terrible breakingball hitting team, really. why so many junk pitchers shut them down
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
7:31 pm
That’s a list only Shaun could love.
Mark
August 29th, 2012
7:33 pm
Just got in from work.
Probably behind but Medsw sure is the man right now! Control is Maddux like. Didn’t say he was Maddux but control is awful good.
Would love to see some old post from the baseball gurus from a few weeks ago saying “Meds is no starter…”
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
7:33 pm
“he is susceptible to a breaking ball from a lefty most all the time. It is what he needs to improve a lot to take the next step. a demon against righties”
A Reed Johnson/Jason Heyward platoon then??
nolie
August 29th, 2012
7:33 pm
not hardly, everybody in baseball recognizes the top half dozen players there as the best year after year, those guys are as good with the glove as Freddie but can actually move laterally
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
7:34 pm
Bad start to the inning for Hanson. He looks terrible.
Lookie Lookie
August 29th, 2012
7:35 pm
So the Braves hitters were obviously having trouble with the sunlight transition between the plate and the mound this time of day. So what does Hanson do? He throws 4 straight balls to start the inning and put the lead off hitter on.
I’m not sure I understand how anyone can have patience with that approach on the mound.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:35 pm
Tommy in trouble…. Hanson’s only in the 4th, it’s about right for him to start struggling.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
7:36 pm
I figured that as soon as I got home Hanson would run into trouble. This better be his last start this season.
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
7:36 pm
Can’t pitch there at 87-89 MPH….
Tina
August 29th, 2012
7:36 pm
darn leadoff walk again means a run.
njbraves
August 29th, 2012
7:36 pm
Just a matter of time before Hanson’s luck runs out.
Mark
August 29th, 2012
7:36 pm
How long are we going to wait because they are getting all good swings and we are chasing an awful lot of balls around the outfield. Been lucky so far
nolie
August 29th, 2012
7:36 pm
no platoon, too early in his career and he is too potentially important. they will let him try to get better
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:36 pm
Dang.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
7:37 pm
I’ll say it for us…..BALLGAME!!
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
7:37 pm
Let’s not act surprised. I expected this.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
7:37 pm
More trouble. Hanson is fooling nobody.
Fredo
August 29th, 2012
7:37 pm
it would seem the shadows do not affect both teams equally
Brava
August 29th, 2012
7:37 pm
Wow. Could we please bring Delgado back up?
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
7:37 pm
“no platoon, too early in his career and he is too potentially important. they will let him try to get better”
I mean Reed is only hitting 100 points better against lefties this year than Heyward, but I reckon that makes too much since.
Animus
August 29th, 2012
7:38 pm
time’s up Tommy – just don’t have it this year. Killing this team and w/the offense struggling, 2 runs is tough to make up.
njbraves
August 29th, 2012
7:38 pm
Hanson is a shell of the pitcher he used to be.
Lookie Lookie
August 29th, 2012
7:38 pm
Tommy is no better than a mop-up guy right now.
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
7:38 pm
How come lead off walks score for everybody else but us???
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
7:38 pm
And again, Gonzalez just sits there. No such thing as a big game.
1. Hanson can’t pitch a shutout.
2. Hanson has a 6-inning ceiling.
3. Hanson’s velocity has crashed.
But again, Gonzalez just sits there.
Mark
August 29th, 2012
7:38 pm
He is turning into Proctor
One Big Dummy
August 29th, 2012
7:38 pm
I’d much rather have Randall Delgado in the rotation than Tommy Hanson. It wouldn’t bother me in the slightest if this is the last game Hanson played for the Braves.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
7:39 pm
Freeman excels at catching bad throws from his infielders, but this stat only seems to account for “lateral” movement. ok
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
7:39 pm
Who else would go with Delgado over Tommy? Delgado strikes people out.
rt
August 29th, 2012
7:39 pm
Hanson has nothing,we need to put him in bullpen!!
Bronke
August 29th, 2012
7:40 pm
Boy or girl, Hanson is hard to watch with that stupid flick of the wrist.
rt
August 29th, 2012
7:40 pm
I would take me over Hanson!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:40 pm
Same Sheets got hurt… Hanson isn’t all that special, I tell ya.He might be worse than Delgado!
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
7:40 pm
Any manager with a winning thought process would say, “Short hook. Pitch by committee. Day off tomorrow.” We HAVE to win this game. Nope. Not this guy.
SOS Braves
August 29th, 2012
7:40 pm
As usual, Hansen starts to suck like he normally does and the loser weak hitting Braves lineup cant hit the dam ball.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
7:40 pm
Gloom, despair, and agony on We
Deep, dark depression, excessive misery
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:40 pm
Shame Sheets got hurt…
Fols
August 29th, 2012
7:40 pm
You guys are paying too much attention to the 2 runs against……..i’m much more concerned with the disappearing offense. They aren’t all going to pitch a shut-out…
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
7:40 pm
Smart to stay away from the blog in a Hanson start, but here I am. He can get under my skin pretty bad, but here I am like an idiot.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
7:41 pm
Hanson has deteriorated significantly since he was so valued as a rookie back in 2009.
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
7:41 pm
Good start Uggla!
Brava
August 29th, 2012
7:41 pm
WTG, Dan!
nolie
August 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
other first basemen excel at all of the defensive game, Freddie does not
Tina
August 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
Trade Hanson this winter cant stand watching him pitch .Braves leave SD scoring two runs playoff team alright. This pitcher has it made he gets strikeouts on a ball. If i was the Rockies next week bring up four soft tossing pitchers and they win 4 games.
Tina
August 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
Trade Hanson this winter cant stand watching him pitch .Braves leave SD scoring two runs playoff team alright. This pitcher has it made he gets strikeouts on a ball. If i was the Rockies next week bring up four soft tossing pitchers and they win 4 games.
MIBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
I’d really like to see them give Delgado another shot at it, rather than continue to watch Hanson pitch the way he is.
Tina
August 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
Trade Hanson this winter cant stand watching him pitch .Braves leave SD scoring two runs playoff team alright. This pitcher has it made he gets strikeouts on a ball. If i was the Rockies next week bring up four soft tossing pitchers and they win 4 games.
Tina
August 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
Trade Hanson this winter cant stand watching him pitch .Braves leave SD scoring two runs playoff team alright. This pitcher has it made he gets strikeouts on a ball. If i was the Rockies next week bring up four soft tossing pitchers and they win 4 games.
Tina
August 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
Trade Hanson this winter cant stand watching him pitch .Braves leave SD scoring two runs playoff team alright. This pitcher has it made he gets strikeouts on a ball. If i was the Rockies next week bring up four soft tossing pitchers and they win 4 games.
Dave
August 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
I’m wondering…if I was to watch some of Tommy’s starts from say 2009-2010…would that make me feel better or worse right now?
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
Oh thanks! Was a dp right then too.
Brava
August 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
Good hustle and a much needed break!
Tina
August 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
Trade Hanson this winter cant stand watching him pitch .Braves leave SD scoring two runs playoff team alright. This pitcher has it made he gets strikeouts on a ball. If i was the Rockies next week bring up four soft tossing pitchers and they win 4 games.
Tina
August 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
Trade Hanson this winter cant stand watching him pitch .Braves leave SD scoring two runs playoff team alright. This pitcher has it made he gets strikeouts on a ball. If i was the Rockies next week bring up four soft tossing pitchers and they win 4 games.
Tina
August 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
Trade Hanson this winter cant stand watching him pitch .Braves leave SD scoring two runs playoff team alright. This pitcher has it made he gets strikeouts on a ball. If i was the Rockies next week bring up four soft tossing pitchers and they win 4 games.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
Cashing this opportunity would be beneficial.
SOS Braves
August 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
50/50 we find a way not to score here.
J.J.M
August 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
hanson is pure garbage
Lookie Lookie
August 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
Seriously, Tommy can only be utilized in long relief in the pen. Can’t bring him into a tight game in the 7th and wait for him to figure out if he can throw a strike.
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
Oh thanks! Was a dp right then too.
Animus
August 29th, 2012
7:44 pm
That E-4 should help, unfortunately TH is batting – wouldn’t have minded seeing a PH there. But…I’m just a fan, not the manager.
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
7:44 pm
And Gonzalez doesn’t hit for him.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
7:45 pm
Pinch hitting for Hanson might have been a good thing.
rt
August 29th, 2012
7:45 pm
Why not pinch hit?
Brava
August 29th, 2012
7:45 pm
Awesome.
MIBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:45 pm
Good job, Michael!
nolie
August 29th, 2012
7:46 pm
a homer woulda been better, ….but WTG Bourn
Hetch Hetchy
August 29th, 2012
7:46 pm
does this work?
SOS Braves
August 29th, 2012
7:46 pm
If we get 5 runs it will not be enough with Homer Hansen in there.
Mark
August 29th, 2012
7:46 pm
Tina
We couldn’t get a case of rosin bags for Hanson right now. Other teams know he has lost it too.
Bravefaninok
August 29th, 2012
7:46 pm
Good job Bourn
SOS Braves
August 29th, 2012
7:46 pm
Fredi is an idiot.
Animus
August 29th, 2012
7:46 pm
I know Fredi is worried about wearing out the BP, but….they haven’t pitched much at all this road trip, got Sept callups Sat. PH’ing for Hanson, might have gotten another run. Of course the RH bats available? Rev & _______?
BravesfaninWis
August 29th, 2012
7:46 pm
Suffice to say, Tommy Hanson sucks. Wish he was out of this rotation. The Braves won a lot of his starts in spite of his pitching, not because he shut teams down. Medlen is shutting teams down, Hanson couldn’t do what Medlen is doing right now in his best season.
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
7:47 pm
That’s the ticket.
Just trot the Red Robot out there to get shellacked next inning.
We’re late in the season. When does a game gain ANY importance with this guy. Game’s way too fast for him.
BFChris27
August 29th, 2012
7:47 pm
Got 1 run in. Still time to tie and win it.
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
7:48 pm
3 runs in 23 innings for the Braves against the Padres, but hey we are one of the top offenses in the league right?
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
7:48 pm
There was really no need to be hacking with a 2-0 count and a runner on third.
rt
August 29th, 2012
7:48 pm
Thats as close as we get!!
Brava
August 29th, 2012
7:48 pm
Hope Hanson doesn’t give that run back.
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
7:48 pm
When Fredi throws bp to the guys he always throws the “Tommy Hanson Special” to get their timing just right before a game. It’s helped a lot of the guys.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
7:50 pm
Wild Card? We got this.
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
7:50 pm
Ball 1….Ball 2…..This is a recording.
MIBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:51 pm
What was Paul doing?
Admiral
August 29th, 2012
7:51 pm
Let’s see how many of you make that one out to be Hanson’s fault.
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
7:51 pm
Janish has priority.
BFChris27
August 29th, 2012
7:51 pm
That was not good.
Lookie Lookie
August 29th, 2012
7:51 pm
That looked pretty bush league.
TN Jeff
August 29th, 2012
7:51 pm
Braves score a run and need a shutdown inning from Hanson. What are the odds? Medlin & Huddy and then pray for Muddy!
Brava
August 29th, 2012
7:51 pm
Damn it.
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
7:51 pm
Has Hanson thrown any FB for a strike?
Mark
August 29th, 2012
7:51 pm
Thats the last thing Hanson needs
Geez
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
7:51 pm
That ridiculous error will open the floodgates.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:52 pm
That was Janish’s ball, Chipper.
This is some piss poor defense… SMH
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
7:52 pm
Wow, and we wonder why we can’t catch the Nats.
Animus
August 29th, 2012
7:52 pm
Little League play – SS ball all the way. Chipper should have backed off. Well, let’s see if Tommy can pitch out of a jam that was NOT of his doing.
WTF Tommy – just stand there and look at the ball???? THROW IT TO 1ST!!!!!!
Mark
August 29th, 2012
7:52 pm
JC
Couple of those ropes were 89 right down the middle
Admiral
August 29th, 2012
7:52 pm
Now THAT one was Hanson’s fault.
BFChris27
August 29th, 2012
7:52 pm
That was Hanson’s fault.
Lookie Lookie
August 29th, 2012
7:52 pm
”
MIBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:51 pm
What was Paul doing?”
NO What was CHIPPER doing?
And WTF was Tommy doing? He just quit!
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
7:53 pm
You have got to be kidding me.
MIBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:53 pm
Pick the dang ball up and at least try to get the out at 1st, you twit!
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
7:53 pm
Hanson is an nonathletic, lazy goof.
Brava
August 29th, 2012
7:53 pm
Take him out, Fredi. He can’t even field his position.
Bronke
August 29th, 2012
7:53 pm
Uggly way to start to the inning, come on that was a little league play!
BravesfaninWis
August 29th, 2012
7:53 pm
Don’t look now, the Bad News Bears have resurfaced. Then Hanson gives up on that play, his useless ass would be benched if I were the manager.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:54 pm
We couldn’t get a case of rosin bags for Hanson right now. Other teams know he has lost it too.
Agree… surprised so many think that he is tradeable. Look at his stat lines, it’s horrible. No way I’d trade for that. He hasn’t gotten any better lately. I’d want to see him to be better for at least half a year before I trade for him. Hence, he won’t be traded this offseason.
Bravefaninok
August 29th, 2012
7:54 pm
Tommy needs to get his head in the game….
Animus
August 29th, 2012
7:54 pm
A play like that really makes me wonder where his head is. It’s not in the game….is the bullpen at least getting loose???
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
7:54 pm
Couple of those ropes were 89 right down the middle
Oh well…
anti-negative guy
August 29th, 2012
7:54 pm
Suffice to say BravesfaninWis sucks. Wish he ws out of the blog rotation. Braves have won a lot of games in spite of his bitching. Maybe time to consider suicide
SOS Braves
August 29th, 2012
7:54 pm
This ENTIRE team and managers are LOSERS. I hate this team.
Lookie Lookie
August 29th, 2012
7:55 pm
Tommy quitting on that ball is like a runner not running out a ground ball and getting thrown out by an eyelash when the fielder boots the ball.
Get someone up in the pen and get Tommy out of there cause he has quit.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:55 pm
Another steal against slow-arm, dart throwing Tommy… not even Ross can save him.
TN Jeff
August 29th, 2012
7:55 pm
Hanson is tired – get the bullpen warming up.
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
7:55 pm
Just sit there Gonzalez. Just let it get away.
Fredo
August 29th, 2012
7:55 pm
no chance with Tommy’s slow motion delivery
Tina
August 29th, 2012
7:55 pm
Please trade Hanson this winter . Game over Goodnight.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:56 pm
Wow, it got cut-off…. we coulda had Venable. Prado’s inexperience shows there.
toast
August 29th, 2012
7:56 pm
off day tomorrow, Hanson’s got nothing and he doesn’t pinch hit.
STUPID
Fredo
August 29th, 2012
7:56 pm
well, this has just been an all around great inning. A+
SOS Braves
August 29th, 2012
7:56 pm
Way to go Fredi you stupid Son of a *itch.
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
7:56 pm
Dang, gotta tip your cap to this high powered Padre offense…..Geez unbelievable.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:56 pm
Geez, Hanson has looked greatly….. I’m expecting him to be traded this offseason…. NOT. I don’t see why any GM trades for this.
BFChris27
August 29th, 2012
7:57 pm
Lets hope Marlins win!
Mark
August 29th, 2012
7:57 pm
How far behind you want to get Freddi
Yeah Es hurt but they are swinging the bat at Hansons stuff like its sitting on a tee
Animus
August 29th, 2012
7:57 pm
Does anyone know if a player has had to take a pay CUT in an Arbitration year? Hanson will I assume.
Admiral
August 29th, 2012
7:57 pm
It won’t be in the box score, but Prado cutting that ball off is basically another error.
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
7:57 pm
I know Hanson has had a handfull of quality starts this season; but man, his record is really misleading.
Only Minor’s record can be considered more misleading than Hanson’s.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
7:57 pm
This team looks to be in full September 2011 mode.
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
7:57 pm
Prado gets his butt kissed by everybody, and I mean everybody, but he’s prone to a stupid ass mental far* as much as anybody.
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
7:57 pm
Prado gets his butt kissed by everybody, and I mean everybody, but he’s prone to a stupid ass mental far* as much as anybody.
anti-negative guy
August 29th, 2012
7:57 pm
SOS Braves…..LOL…Try sex with a woman
Brava
August 29th, 2012
7:57 pm
Oh well, this is what I thought would happen. Hopefully, we’re watching Hanson’s last start.
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
7:57 pm
Had Venable out by 4 feet if Prado doesn’t cut the ball off……
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
7:57 pm
Another steal upcoming.
Fols
August 29th, 2012
7:57 pm
And there she goes……..ugh
SOS Braves
August 29th, 2012
7:58 pm
Hanson has nothing. Fredi has nothing. Please get rid of these fools.
abeeeewright
August 29th, 2012
7:58 pm
Little league defense in this inning.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:58 pm
YES! Good throw Rossy.
anti-negative guy
August 29th, 2012
7:59 pm
Enough of Hanson
LakeDawg
August 29th, 2012
7:59 pm
Mercy! The Braves shore do suck. Doesn’t matter, though. Its football season!
anti-negative guy
August 29th, 2012
7:59 pm
Enough of Hanson
njbraves
August 29th, 2012
7:59 pm
Not sure who I hate more, Hanson or Fredi? They both are awful.
BravesfaninWis
August 29th, 2012
7:59 pm
My dead grandma who was handicapped could steal on the red retard and that stupid ass pitching motion. Now they score more runs when they shouldn’t have.
Admiral
August 29th, 2012
7:59 pm
And right on cue, the sharks smell blood in the water – Nats put up a 2 spot.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
7:59 pm
I said to some buddies today that Hanson would allow four runs in five innings and the Braves would get shut down by Stults and lose 4-1. I am hoping that I was wrong.
LakeDawg
August 29th, 2012
7:59 pm
Hanson is very weak-willed. He has no future.
Animus
August 29th, 2012
8:00 pm
Good throw by Ross saved that SB – had a good jump, Hanson needs to be done.
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
8:00 pm
Hanson’s body language is that of a lazy, unmotivated slob who knows he sucks, but plays off any nagative stuff towards him interviews. He’s just TOO COOL to care about this silly game.
Tommy Hanson
August 29th, 2012
8:00 pm
I suck!!
My fastball is topping out at 88mph and I am always at 100 pitches by the fifth inning. Oh well.
anti-negative guy
August 29th, 2012
8:01 pm
Bravesfanin Wis I heard you are still having sex with your dead grandma so your opinion doesn’t count
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
8:01 pm
When a guy makes it to the bigs as a power pitcher and is relying almost exclusively on breaking balls, something is wrong.
Too bad the genius field commander fails to acknowledge that piece of important information.
SOS Braves
August 29th, 2012
8:01 pm
anti-negative guy. FU strong letter to follow.
BillyBob
August 29th, 2012
8:01 pm
Hanson is the worst! Please just release him! What a waste of a pick.
Lookie Lookie
August 29th, 2012
8:01 pm
Hanson looks like that kid in Little League who has a curve ball and nothing else. He throws it and throws it and some of the smaller kids ooh and ahh over it. The older kids don’t blink and go up there and smack it.
Tommy Hanson
August 29th, 2012
8:02 pm
Fredi, get me out of here. I forgot how to pitch.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:02 pm
Thanks Fredi!
Sorry Hanson, but you shouldn’t be surprised…. you’ve been awful lately, and today.
Brava
August 29th, 2012
8:02 pm
About damned time Fredi G enius.
Fredo
August 29th, 2012
8:03 pm
good thing he wasn’t pinch hit for when they had that good scoring opportunity …. it might have looked bad if it worked in their favor
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
8:03 pm
Typical Hanson pitch sequence to end what has become a typical Hanson start. Begin a guy 0-2 and eventually walk him while allowing four runs in less than five innings and throwing a ton of pitches.
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
8:03 pm
Tommy Hanson = Mike Pelfrey.
Except Pelfrey’s velocity didn’t suddenly tank, but the same weak, tuck the tail in between the legs like a timid dog. Both came up big, but have fallen off. Also both fans of the two teams scream at the tv when they watch them.
DEJAVU
August 29th, 2012
8:03 pm
I hope Beachy has a full recovery because Hanson is not the answer. If the Braves offer him anything, they would be IDIOTS! When this guy first came up and what he is now is like night and day! He has no velocity and he is always behind on hittters! The Braves just gave away 2 runs and this dam offense is no where to be found! A one game playogg loss is in order against St Louis!
MIBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:03 pm
Now Fredi takes him out. Great! Maybe if he had pinch hit for him with the tying runs in scoring position, this would be a 2-2 game instead of a 4-1 game.
LakeDawg
August 29th, 2012
8:03 pm
anti-negative guy
It might be negative, but its the truth. His grandma could steal third on Hanson.
Mark
August 29th, 2012
8:04 pm
Positive of the night
Uggs has a 3 game hitting streak doesn’t he?
Doesn’t matter how many you get each night to get that going!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:04 pm
Once again, Hanson can’t finish the 5th inning. Just like last time. Definitely tradeable. Yep!
Mark
August 29th, 2012
8:05 pm
Puttin on a pitching and defensive clinic tonight fellas with that doink right there
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
8:05 pm
Braves — especially Hanson — must’ve been in the GasLamp District last night into early this morning.
TN Jeff
August 29th, 2012
8:05 pm
Yep – only surprise is that Hanson hasn’t given up a homerun … yet. Hope Sheets comes back strong and they demote Hanson.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:06 pm
Finally, it’s over.
Dan Uggla @FakeDanUggla
First, Hurricane Isaac. Now, Tommy Hanson. How many more disasters can the south handle?
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
Hanson did not create the mess (well kind of w/ the bunt). But the point is he does not have the stuff to escape or minimize damage now
BillyBob
August 29th, 2012
8:06 pm
Hanson is a red head retard!
njbraves
August 29th, 2012
8:06 pm
There was no good reason for Tommy to pitch that inning. He was lucky to only be down 2-1, but dumb Fredi just can’t help himself.
Animus
August 29th, 2012
8:07 pm
Hanson, the defense and probably a managerial non-decision put the Braves in a 3 run hole. I hope they brought shovels – gonna be a lot of digging to get back on top.
DAM
August 29th, 2012
8:07 pm
The sooner I don’t have to watch Hanson pitch in a Braves uniform anymore, the better.
Tommy Hanson
August 29th, 2012
8:07 pm
I am not worried, I know that Fredi will protect me. It was not my fault that my ERA is 4.5 and I have lost my fastball. It’s not my fault that I am always at 100 pitches by the 5th inning. If only that lazy Chipper would have caught that ball, I would have still been in the game pitching.
Tom
August 29th, 2012
8:08 pm
Delgado please!
Mark
August 29th, 2012
8:08 pm
One of Hansons quotes when he was ill about being sent down to rehab was that “they don’t know what they have with me”
Well, I think we all know very well what we had then and what we have now
Tom
August 29th, 2012
8:08 pm
Tommy pouts all day long….he’s done as a brave in my book
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:09 pm
Hanson gives up 4 runs, goes 4.2 IP (14 outs) and allows 8 hits. He was awful, end of story. His ERA continues to balloon, and his WAR and tradeability continue to go down…
Tommy Hanson
August 29th, 2012
8:10 pm
Where is my good buddy JJ? He should be up here with me?
tristan
August 29th, 2012
8:11 pm
I am glad that everyone sees Hanson’s poor mentality. I have been ragging on him since the beginning of last year when he would have his “inning” of troubles. Problem is that now, it is multiple innings. His ERA is by no means equal to what a major league starter for an organization that claims to have all this “young pitching talent” should have. He is a mop up guy at best. If he doesn’t get booted out of the starting lineup soon, the Braves can just hand the wild card spot to the Cardinals.
DEJAVU
August 29th, 2012
8:11 pm
I think i can pitch to the Braves and beat them right now! It looks very easy. So the Phillies will send their top 3 pitchers against the Braves……. That equals 3 loses for the Braves and a 4 game losing streak!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:11 pm
Hanson threw 83 pitches, 48 strikes, 35 balls. Not good.
Animus
August 29th, 2012
8:11 pm
If Hanson had any spirit, he’d be p*ssed and punch a wall – break his hand and be done for the year. RIght now he just hurts the team every time he pitches.
Tina
August 29th, 2012
8:12 pm
We went to alot of games this year but again we will not go to another because this team dosnt do anything for me. Bourn great 300 hitter til August then like last year fly ball after fly ball .Did you ever see us come back when down by 2 or 3 after 5 innings . Bud Black for Freddi then we will have a manager. Stults CY YOUNG
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
8:12 pm
This team’s problems against lefties have been so overexposed up to this point, a one game playoff could become a disaster if the other team exploits this weakness.
tristan
August 29th, 2012
8:12 pm
Supposedly this guy’s ERA balloons in the later innings. Not against the Braves, that is for sure.
Lookie Lookie
August 29th, 2012
8:12 pm
You can figure if Heyward gets clowned by a lefty starter in his first ab, then if the same pitcher stays in the game, Heyward is gonna get clowned multiple times.
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
August 29th, 2012
8:13 pm
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
Mark
August 29th, 2012
8:13 pm
I’d take JJ any day over Hanson right now.
I’d take Linebrink and Proctor. Livan and Batista. Well, maybe not all those but…
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:14 pm
Talking Chop @gondeee
How far have Jurrjens and Hanson fallen in the past year. Sad and frustrating to watch.
Indeed…
tristan
August 29th, 2012
8:14 pm
Bring up Constanza
Jwalker
August 29th, 2012
8:14 pm
Tommy Hanson (if he has much value) should be traded this winter before he diminishes his value any further and his salary jumps to $3.5-4M. He was (not his doing) way over hyped coming up. And the front office has to move him. He has been on the DL every season and always declines in the 2nd half and taxes the bullpen on days like today when he pitches behind every hitter. And probably the most alarming, is that he went from throwing 94-96mph when he came up, to now at barely 26 years old throwing just 88-91mph. That’s a huge decline for a guy so young and it’s not like taking off some speed has improved him command, it hasn’t by a long shot. I say trade for what you can get, avoid paying him a big raise through arbitration before he really falls apart as all the signs say he surely will. But even if he does stay healthy, he isn’t productive enough.
Animus
August 29th, 2012
8:15 pm
tristan
August 29th, 2012
8:14 pm
Bring up Constanza
Can he pitch?????
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
8:15 pm
Jurrjens and Hanson have fallen about as quick as their fastball velocity has….
DEJAVU
August 29th, 2012
8:15 pm
I am just glad its football season! Now I can complain about the offensive lines of both UGA and the Falcons instead of these sorry ass Braves
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
8:15 pm
3-run homerun Uggla!
Sickened
August 29th, 2012
8:15 pm
If Hanson cared as much about developing a six-pack as he did about his next six-pack of Heineken, he might be pretty good. He just hasn’t shown the dedication to the game that you would like to see.
Lance
August 29th, 2012
8:15 pm
Just got to a point where I can watch the game…from what I can tell Hanson had a melt-down, someone thought Prado needed to play one more position, and everyone looks like they don’t know there is a game going on. Did I miss anything?
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
8:16 pm
I’m surprised that not even Braves’ right-handed hitters are able to hit all that well against lefties…
tristan
August 29th, 2012
8:16 pm
animus, he is Constanzaaaaaaaaaaaa
jonathan
August 29th, 2012
8:16 pm
I said at the begining of the year that whenever Medlin came back from T.J surgery he should be in the rotation. Way to go Medlin. How long are we going to keep sending Hanson to the hill every 5 days. Can’t Fredi see that he sucks and needs to be traded or heck I would even just give him away. What a disappointment.
Lakewood
August 29th, 2012
8:17 pm
What do you even say to Hanson when you take him out other than “Terrible effort tonight, you are killing this team with your useless outings, we are all praying that Sheets come back soon”. I mean honestly, how much worse can Delgado be then Hanson? I have zero confidence in him.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:17 pm
How is Constanza gonna help us pitch?
Uggla is tied for 1st in the league with 2-out RBIs (if i heard correctly)
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
8:17 pm
JJ and Hanson have fallen because the manager has castrated them.
You can tell many of the Braves adore playing for the esteemed field commander.
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
August 29th, 2012
8:18 pm
Pinch hit for this bum Janish. He couldn’t throw it up and hit it.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:18 pm
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
At this rate, yes. RT @joeseroski: @ajcbraves Probably safe to say Hanson would be left out of postseason rotation?
Sweet….
That walk was just to move onto Janish…. let’s get ‘em dude, it’d be a great time for your 1st HR this year.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:19 pm
DAMMIT
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
8:19 pm
That worked out pretty poorly.
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
8:19 pm
I thought the Braves offense was one of the tops in the league?….
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
August 29th, 2012
8:19 pm
Fredi lets a sub .200 player hit with the bases loaded down 3. VINTAGE FREDI.
njbraves
August 29th, 2012
8:19 pm
First pitch pop up…not surprising.
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
8:20 pm
Janish….
*sigh*
M.V.P.Heyward
August 29th, 2012
8:20 pm
pop-up Bravos!!!
Jaded
August 29th, 2012
8:20 pm
Probably should have hit for Janish there. That was likely our best opportunity.
Brava
August 29th, 2012
8:20 pm
Simmons can’t get back soon enough. Good grief!
Bronke
August 29th, 2012
8:20 pm
Aughhhhhhhhh!
Fredo
August 29th, 2012
8:20 pm
there’s one of the negatives to Uggla taking walks, he’s setting up guys who aren’t hitting better than him
George_George
August 29th, 2012
8:20 pm
I am the real George,the FREDI disliker.
Playoffs!!!
August 29th, 2012
8:20 pm
Should have pinch hit the Rev. no- brainer
Lakewood
August 29th, 2012
8:20 pm
Jurrjens is probably relieved that he isn’t the only projected pitching stud on the roster having the worst season of his career.
tristan
August 29th, 2012
8:21 pm
Constanza is almost equal to the Dos Equis guy in his awesomeness. He will bring the power and magic to the Braves that they nees ala the kick in the rear. He hustles and that is more than I can say for many a Brave these days.
I never said he was a pitcher, I was merely making a joke. Does someone else have a better suggestion that will work?
Chipper's Southern Bell
August 29th, 2012
8:21 pm
I went through all the hoops n didn’t get registered
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
8:21 pm
Hanson has lasted 5 innings or fewer in 4 of past 5 starts. Went 4-2/3 today, allowed 8 H, 4 (3 ER), 2 BB, 3 K in 83 pitches.
Oy.
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
8:21 pm
Yep. Keep the defense strong chasing 3.
Nothing like a BIG GAME. Fan base deserves better than this brutal, passive strategy.
LakeDawg
August 29th, 2012
8:21 pm
There was never any possibility the Braves would win when they went down 4-1. Same mentality sense 1996.
njbraves
August 29th, 2012
8:22 pm
Every single time the Braves get within sight of the Nats, they come up small and give it right back.
toast
August 29th, 2012
8:22 pm
yep, janish did a great job but it’s about time for him to sit. he hasn’t done a thing since the 3 hit game, not hitting balls hard anymore.
did anybody fully think Hanson was going to turn it around after the 4th? go to go for the big inning with a day off tomorrow and good pitching performances last couple of days. send pastor up there with 2nd and 3rd no outs. just poor managing period.
Jerry
August 29th, 2012
8:22 pm
As much as I dislike Pastornicky, I would have pinch hit him for Janish, then sent Prado to short and Freddie at first. Braves may not get another shot and Fredi let it go by the wayside.
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
August 29th, 2012
8:23 pm
Freddie Freeman sat on the bench while the bases were loaded and watched Paul Janish pop up. Freeman
Lance
August 29th, 2012
8:23 pm
I have missed the majority of the game – was a reason for given for having Prado play 1st tonight?
DAM
August 29th, 2012
8:24 pm
Needed to pinch hit for Janish there. Day off or not, lefty or not, I’d rather see Freeman there. Heck, I’d take Rev, Hudson, or Medlen over Janish at the plate. Seriously.
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
August 29th, 2012
8:24 pm
“Hanson has lasted 5 innings or fewer in 4 of past 5 starts. Went 4-2/3 today, allowed 8 H, 4 (3 ER), 2 BB, 3 K in 83 pitches.”
Wouldn’t you think that Fredi would have recognized that pattern and pinch hit for him when we had a chance to tie it? No, that bullpen has to be rested. And Paul Janish has to be sent up there with the bases loaded.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:25 pm
Oy.
Oy is right…. Hanson has been bad…. no fun to watch. Feel sorry for cab and VJ at the game… At least we have more time left to get back in the game, it’s only a 3-run difference, but that Padres ‘pen is really good. If I remember correctly, there are unbeaten (or close to it) when leading after 6 innings.
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
8:26 pm
Braves are a 90-100 win team being piloted by a 60-70 win manager.
Animus
August 29th, 2012
8:26 pm
I doubt you’d see FF PHing with a lefty pitcher up there. Could have brought in Rev.
Really limited with 4 LH and 1 RH on the bench today. Hope FF gets rested today, gonna need him every game the rest of the way it appears.
Bronke
August 29th, 2012
8:26 pm
Whatever happened to the Braves getting extra base hits? When have they become the NY Mets with their walks and singles! Sheesh!
SOS Braves
August 29th, 2012
8:26 pm
Every time i see Fredi sitting on the bench I want to puke.
Powder Blue
August 29th, 2012
8:27 pm
Needless to say Hanson’s not helping the team right now.
Fredo
August 29th, 2012
8:27 pm
Padres setting the Braves up for a knockout punch
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:28 pm
Stults has carved up Freeman (1-7, career) I don’t think PH’ing Freeman woulda helped there. We also need defense the rest of the way, so Prado/Pastornicky at SS wouldn’t have been ideal.
M.V.P.Heyward
August 29th, 2012
8:29 pm
No more excuse! Joe & Chip.
The Braves should beat the Padres, period!
Mark
August 29th, 2012
8:30 pm
2 out rbis?????????
When and who came up with that stat? RBI is an rbi whether it comes with 0, 1 or 2 outs.
I doubt any 3 hitters lead in that stat. They don’t hit with 2 outs as often
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:30 pm
Nice grab Rossy!
MIBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:30 pm
Lance – just giving Freddie the day off against a lefty who is tough on lefties in general, and Freddie in particular (see TOBF’s post above).
Lance
August 29th, 2012
8:30 pm
Ross always brings it!!!
Brava
August 29th, 2012
8:30 pm
Great play, Rossy!
MIBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:30 pm
Great job Dan and David!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:30 pm
and a great call by Eric Cooper (Umpire)!!!
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
8:30 pm
Ross wouldn’t let the Gold Glove godchild Uggla blow another one.
Lance
August 29th, 2012
8:31 pm
Thanks MlBravesFan
njbraves
August 29th, 2012
8:31 pm
So lucky…great play by Rossy. Uggla is just the worst.
Tina
August 29th, 2012
8:31 pm
IF we had a bench Janish should never be allowed to bat .Black takes his pitcher out with a lead next it be Layne another three strikeouts. Still keep saying we get wildcard and lose that game as are offense forgets to show up and Freddi for the last time will have to tell us how the guy was unhitable.Padres will get this team to the top with new owners and Black and Braves with no owner and Freddi OH WELL. Nice play by puss arm Uggla.
Mark
August 29th, 2012
8:31 pm
That was a brain dead slide there by /maybin that helped us out. Slide right toward the only spot Ross could tag him
njbraves
August 29th, 2012
8:32 pm
Great play Dan??? You’re kidding, right? He almost threw the ball to the backstop.
Chas
August 29th, 2012
8:32 pm
What a brutal ball game to watch. Janish with a brain dead at bat, with the bases loaded…first pitch pop-up. What a complete idiot. Not a brain in his head.
Little league defense, a pop fly on the in field. Really. What a choke job joke.
Ross, terrible at bats, with runners on. Prado cuts off an out at the plate. Is his head in the game? Where?
Hanson…can’t field, sure can’t pitch. No command at all @ 88 mph. Loser.
This team of Braves is not a playoff team. They are the CHOKERS 2.0 The Collapse Re-Visited. It’s who they are.
Once again the Braves spit it out, as the season wanes. They are the same Braves as last September.
Good teams find a way to win. The Braves find ways to lose. Tonight is a perfect case in point.
Lance
August 29th, 2012
8:33 pm
I know that Ross has to always be ready as back-up to McCann in every game — but having Ross learn 1st and having both in the lineup could be a good thing
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:34 pm
Good jobs Uggs, and relief…. the Padres lead, and when they lead after 6, they are virtually unbeatable. Let’s bust that stat tonight!
MVPrado14
August 29th, 2012
8:35 pm
So, anybody really surprised that the Braves are well on their way to dropping two of three to the Padres?
Didn’t think so.
So much for … “well, the rest of the season is basically against teams under .500″
Doesn’t matter if the Braves drop series to them.
Collapse part 2 is still very much alive thanks to the Bravos inability to take care of business.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
8:35 pm
I see we’re laying another egg….sigh.
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
8:36 pm
Can’t believe Braves got out of that inning without giving up a run, but they sure better take advantage now if they hope to pull this out.
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
8:36 pm
Uggla is a virus.
toast
August 29th, 2012
8:36 pm
i miss the 2010 comeback kids that use to win games late.
1st game in DC. ace huddy on hill and lay a friggin egg. comeback to tie game and in control of the game and fail to capitalize and lose in 13. set the tone for the trip. the very good teams win those games.
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
August 29th, 2012
8:36 pm
Halladay, Lee, and Hamels. We might not score a run the next three games.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:36 pm
Let’s go REV, my boy… get this rally train started.
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
8:36 pm
The Braves Specialist is in for the Padres in the 7th innning.
MIBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:37 pm
Not this kid again!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:37 pm
It’s so not our night… Damn
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
8:38 pm
Pastornicky might start getting a shift put on him. To the oppo side.
Fredo
August 29th, 2012
8:39 pm
Bourn has 5 hits on this road trip
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
8:39 pm
This guy would win the Cy Young if he faced the Braves every night
MVPrado14
August 29th, 2012
8:39 pm
“but they sure better take advantage now if they hope to pull this out.”
Gotta love when this supposedly good team has to “hope to pull out” games against lesser opponents!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:40 pm
All the luck is on the Padres side tonight…
Bronke
August 29th, 2012
8:40 pm
3 runs in 3 games so far. Hmmmm recipe for some soul searching!
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
8:40 pm
Chas = zero redeeming qualities…
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
8:42 pm
“All the luck is on the Padres side tonight…”
Not to mention the Braves have scored 3 runs this entire series so far (25 innings)…..that’s something the Padres or Astros or Cubs should do…..not a playoff contending team.
sid
August 29th, 2012
8:42 pm
if this is a playoff calibre team, then MLB baseball has become the NBA.
1991 braves
August 29th, 2012
8:42 pm
Hanson is the reincarnation of Lowe. And Fredi will continue to trot him out every 5 days, and he will give the braves zero chance to win. The guy can’t throw strikes, has an 87 or 88 mph fastball with no movement, and he hangs curves 3 or 4 times every start, which lasts 5 innings. This guy never gives the braves a quality start, he over works the bull pen, and he is a cancer. He tells the manager and pitching coach to fuc- off, and yet he still gets to pitch every 5 days. This guy should be sent to Gwinnett, and to hell with him and his attitude, and his terrible delivery and his diminishing talent For everyone assuming the braves are in the playoffs, wouldn’t print tickets yet. After all, the braves have 2 starters now that they can hope will get them a quality start. If Minor continues to improve that would give them 3. But it will be hard for the braves to beat out L.A. or San Fran, for the 2nd wild card with 2 pitchers. The Cards are going to get the other wild card spot, you can count on that. So since Fredi never learns from his mistakes, he will continue to send out this head case minor league talent in Hanson, and expect a quality start. That will not happen anymore with this guy. Braves can only hope Minor keeps improving.
Juan
August 29th, 2012
8:42 pm
Did we skip the 7Th?….wow i just went to the Kitchen and Padres Bottom of the 7th
What Happen?..
Fredo
August 29th, 2012
8:42 pm
“Halladay, Lee, and Hamels. We might not score a run the next three games”
the good news is that with this series they’ve allowed the fans to adjust to the possibility of that happening (3 runs in 25 of 27 innings)
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
8:42 pm
The Daily Durbin in to pitch 7th for Bravos
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
8:42 pm
Our hitting failures are not exactly news….
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
8:44 pm
Do you realize Kimbrel has been used 10 times in the past 5 weeks?
EOF and Venters — not much more.
Day off tomorrow.
Time for this metrics-driven robot to be dismissed. No emotion. No drive. Nothing’s big. Guy should be an accountant with that type of competitive drive.
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
August 29th, 2012
8:45 pm
I think it’s at least a 2-2 game if Fredi pinch hits for Hanson in the 4th like he should have. He’s managing like it’s still April.
mpimentel
August 29th, 2012
8:46 pm
I would like to see the braves make a run to sign bourn,btw, I told you guys uggla will get hot just in the coorect time!…go braves
Mr. Wednesday
August 29th, 2012
8:46 pm
Kryptonite for the Braves appears to be a left hander that can throw a curve ball.
MVPrado14
August 29th, 2012
8:46 pm
Once again we see the futility of even hoping that this team makes it to the postseason. Why? So they can get carved up against playoff caliber pitching and get embarrassed on a national stage?
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
8:46 pm
Luck?
We’re playing like crap tonight…
rc35
August 29th, 2012
8:47 pm
Anybody remember the end of the “Who’s on First?” skit by Abbott and Costello? One ending was “I Don’t Care!” to which the other replied, “Ooh–that’s our shortstop!”
On the Braves, it’s the second baseman.
toast
August 29th, 2012
8:47 pm
i miss beachy.
i miss someone off the bench getting big hits like brooks conrad delivered two years ago
i miss
not getting a warm and fuzzy feeling about this team right now. hope september has a different vibe.
would be a total shame for baseball fans across the country not to have opportunity to watch craig kimbrel pitch in the offseason. chipper is a feel good story, but kimbrel is the real story of the braves this season
Tina
August 29th, 2012
8:48 pm
Thanks Medlen for saving are sorry ass offense from having Padres from sweep us. Lee, Holladay and maybe now Hamels could be long week-end. Come on Freddi pull big man pants down and check and see if you have BALLS.
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
August 29th, 2012
8:49 pm
This is the Tom Layne Show. It’s not the Layne Tom Show.
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
8:49 pm
Padres got some pitching!
sid
August 29th, 2012
8:50 pm
now the “I couldn’t care less” hall of famer.
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
8:50 pm
“Padres got some pitching!”
Against the Braves they do….
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
8:51 pm
Chipper gets another standing O, then singles up middle with 1 out in 8th inning. Braves down 4-1
Mark
August 29th, 2012
8:51 pm
Looks like all our hitters keep gearing up for that 94 mph FB on the inner half against these nibbling lefties even though they never get past 89-90 and only throw about 3 of those per inning.
MIBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:51 pm
Nicely done, Chipper!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:52 pm
Chipper with a hit in what is probably his last AB at Petco…. nice stuff
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
8:52 pm
That guy coming in to pitch looks like a Civil War ghost.
anti-negative guy
August 29th, 2012
8:53 pm
Every time I see SOS on the blog I want to puke
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
8:53 pm
Chipper can’t carry this bunch anymore….
No one wants to step up, or just can’t.
We’re about to lose the best offensive thing we’ve ever had. Sad.
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
8:53 pm
I remember that show Unsolved Mysteries ghost episodes and one was a Civil War ghost special. That’s this guy!
Jaded
August 29th, 2012
8:54 pm
This guy looks like the Matt Stairs of pitchers.
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
8:55 pm
Team leader in double plays…..
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
8:55 pm
Good grief…..prado is a double play machine.
Arghhhhhh!!
Bronke
August 29th, 2012
8:56 pm
Prado, the double play king!
Mark
August 29th, 2012
8:56 pm
Padres have been the best team and the most fun to watch tonight.
Sad though
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
8:57 pm
This loss will sink us into a spiral of non playoff baseball again! Braves are toast!
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
8:57 pm
“Padres have been the best team and the most fun to watch tonight.”
All series….held the Braves to 3 runs total.
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
August 29th, 2012
8:57 pm
I don’t think we win another series the rest of the year.
kdawg1017
August 29th, 2012
8:57 pm
i dont care what you whiners complain about. this padres team is no joke they pitch well and play amazing defense. thats a recipe for success and is something we dont have consistantly so therefore we lose 2 out of 3 whats not to get.
ChattTownBrian
August 29th, 2012
8:57 pm
I was posting Maddux I swear
toast
August 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
mccann and uggla. if you don’t get those guys hitting next month, you can trot out medlen’s on a daily basis and won’t help long term. the braves success rest with getting those guys to produce. simple as that.
MVPrado14
August 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
3 little old outs away from a very impressive and inspiring 4-6 road trip.
Bring on the 2-5 homestand!
brian
August 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
when is the ETA on Simmons?
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
9:00 pm
Most frustrating team ever.
Fredo
August 29th, 2012
9:00 pm
“this padres team is no joke they pitch well and play amazing defense. thats a recipe for success”
if they weren’t 11 games under .500 I might be willing to take them a bit more seriously
njbraves
August 29th, 2012
9:00 pm
This game was over the second the score hit 4-1. This team was never going to come back.
toast
August 29th, 2012
9:02 pm
cardinal fans feeling pain as braves fans. everytime you think they are ready to take control, offense deserts them and hard to understand. pirates helping the braves again tonight.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
9:03 pm
kdawg1017
August 29th, 2012
8:57 pm
i dont care what you whiners complain about. this padres team is no joke they pitch well and play amazing defense. thats a recipe for success and is something we dont have consistantly so therefore we lose 2 out of 3 whats not to get.
*********
another excuse maker…..sigh.
Mark
August 29th, 2012
9:03 pm
Toast hit on something tonight that some of us have said for a while. No way a team can compete at a high level consistently with 2 “have to be run producers” hitting 205 and 225.
Just can’t happen
FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ
August 29th, 2012
9:04 pm
4-8 over our last 12. Back to losing 2 out of 3 like we did last year in crunch time.
DAM
August 29th, 2012
9:04 pm
TOBF, sure, you need great defense until you’re down 3 in the 6th inning or later. Then you have to start sacrificing some of that D to get some runs across. Can’t win the game if you don’t score.
MVPrado14
August 29th, 2012
9:04 pm
“pirates helping the braves again tonight”
Not exactly. They are simply positioning themselves to be the team that drives the final nail in the coffin known as “Braves Collapse Part 2″
jerry
August 29th, 2012
9:04 pm
Will Janish have served his purpose when Simmons comes back? Oh no, the Braves can always use another .200 hitter on the bench.
Tina
August 29th, 2012
9:05 pm
Mlb network gives Freddi credit how hes managing the bullpen this year hell when your losing after six you can save them. Hell maybe to hard on Freddi when Cox had Maddux, Glavine. Smoltz and Chipper and ONE WS shame on him.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
9:06 pm
toast
August 29th, 2012
9:02 pm
cardinal fans feeling pain as braves fans. everytime you think they are ready to take control, offense deserts them and hard to understand. pirates helping the braves again tonight.
**********
probably just delaying the inevitable…..we have no offensive consistency and several monster black holes in the forms of Uggla and Mac….sigh.
kelevra
August 29th, 2012
9:07 pm
wow kind of glad i wasnt around to watch this one….im sure it has been pretty frustrating
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
9:07 pm
About to become a blow out…
*sigh*
Bronke
August 29th, 2012
9:07 pm
Anyone still watching this sh$t game? : )
Mark
August 29th, 2012
9:08 pm
jerry
I love the way Yawnish has performed for us but I don’t think there is no way you can justify keeping him on the roster. Can’t take up a spot for a defensive replacement that can’t come in and produce offensively off the bench. I’d say this is Skis last hoorah as a Brave as well
brian
August 29th, 2012
9:09 pm
wonder if the BRaves will give Teheran a shot in Hanson’s spot. Teheran showing signs of life. Hanson not so much
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
9:10 pm
I thought somebody said Jonny Venters was back?
brian
August 29th, 2012
9:10 pm
it is funny when they give him credit for how he has managed the bullpen this year but don’t go off on him for the way he abused the bullpen last year.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
9:10 pm
Yes, kelevra, i think you could say frustrating…..
As two more score….ugh.
Mark
August 29th, 2012
9:10 pm
Venters isn’t the Venters of the last 2 years obviously.
That said, he needs to come in to start innings not with runners on. Throws way to many balls with runners on
Fredo
August 29th, 2012
9:10 pm
and the walks come back to hurt but then again, they usually do
Powder Blue
August 29th, 2012
9:11 pm
Ballgame.
brian
August 29th, 2012
9:11 pm
never will happen but fire Fredi??
Felix
August 29th, 2012
9:11 pm
So many were saying that the Braves had an advantage playing mostly sub .500 teams the rest of the way. As I said some time ago–that thinking is pure mythology, especially when you are talking about these Braves. Last year they struggled down the stretch against any team, even those that were sub .500. The teams that are out of it, with nothing to lose, play loose. Our Braves tighten up, especially at the plate. Now here the Braves are, struggling against the Padres. One run scored through 8. One lousy run. By comparison, the Padres in this series have looked like the better team. All three of their pitchers have looked like world beaters against the Braves offense.
uga-brave
August 29th, 2012
9:12 pm
the braves managed two earned runs the entire series. they should feel fortunate not to of been swept.
LakeDawg
August 29th, 2012
9:12 pm
Alright, Venters! Seriously , though. He needs to get out of ATL before that staff completely ruins a promising career.
CaptainMudd
August 29th, 2012
9:13 pm
What a piece of crap…this game and series; lose 2 of 3 from SD in perfect weather conditions and with a dive in the performance of D.C. whereby substantial ground could have been made…wow; incompetently disappointing to me. In fact, as I believe you all are aware–if Mr. Meds had not been his brilliant self–well…we’d be looking at straw–so dang sad, the 2012 Braves; an implausible bunch.
kelevra
August 29th, 2012
9:13 pm
i know chipper will blame hanson and the pitching….but three runs the whole series? i mean come on…. that’s just pathetic
toast
August 29th, 2012
9:13 pm
let’s be fair, he really didn’t abuse the bullpen last season. the offense won games 3-2, 4-3 seemingly every other game. kimbrel and venters don’t pitch as much as they did, no way they come close to 1 game from the playoffs. this season for good and bad, blowout games like this have been far more the norm than last season
Fredo
August 29th, 2012
9:13 pm
Marlins have 2 on, no outs, down 2
Mark
August 29th, 2012
9:13 pm
This is the worst game I rememeber this year. I’m done for tonight.
Say those prayers!
I need to extra bad tonight after some of the thoughts I had watching this game.
Take care all
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
9:14 pm
Venters has been banged around all year so yes, why bring the guy in with runners on?
Ridiculous doing that with a known entity this yr…..oh well.
TBbravesfan
August 29th, 2012
9:15 pm
would have been a good time for the braves to make a move with the nats falling like they were
toast
August 29th, 2012
9:15 pm
bring on the new improved big bad phillies. braves will play better baseball this weekend
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
9:16 pm
Flat out embarrassing to get out scored by the Padres 11-3(so far) in this series
MVPrado14
August 29th, 2012
9:16 pm
Braves will get swept this weekend – just like old times
Fredo
August 29th, 2012
9:17 pm
well i don’t know about any of you guys but I think they can still score 7+ in the 9th!
*Marlins within 1 now
Brava
August 29th, 2012
9:17 pm
Get Venters the hell out of there so the game can end, sheesh. It’ll be 200-1 before he’s done.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
9:17 pm
Anyone still watching the Nats is watching the wrong team.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
9:17 pm
This game is terrible.
Mark
August 29th, 2012
9:18 pm
Lastly, I have a trade proposal for someone.
Hanson, JJ, Venters, Uggla, Hinski, Diaz and throw in Freddi G for the icing on the cake for a decent lefty reliever.
toast
August 29th, 2012
9:18 pm
keep getting into that National bullpen. only way to pass them is if they contnue to be overused and run out of gas next month
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
9:18 pm
The phillies are certainly due against us….
MVPrado14
August 29th, 2012
9:18 pm
“*Marlins within 1 now”
irrelevant now
kelevra
August 29th, 2012
9:19 pm
two more lefties this weekend
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
9:19 pm
September 2011 is rearing its ugliness again.
toast
August 29th, 2012
9:19 pm
pizz off MVPprado
Mr. Positive
August 29th, 2012
9:20 pm
The game isn’t over yet! Braves can still win 9-8. If you don’t get behind the Braves, you’re not a true fan!!!
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
9:20 pm
Pass them? We better worry about ourselves.
Tina
August 29th, 2012
9:20 pm
Let Hinski pitch he cant field or play defense might be a hidden gem. Three more outs and then we can watch Braves Dead.
MVPrado14
August 29th, 2012
9:21 pm
“keep getting into that National bullpen. only way to pass them is if they contnue to be overused and run out of gas next month”
the Braves are NOT passing the Nats, plain and simple. I would say that the Phillies have a better chance than the Braves.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
9:21 pm
Mr positive = mental midget
toast
August 29th, 2012
9:22 pm
braves coming home with day off tomorrow. you guys are nuts if you don’t believe they will play better.
bad series, move on
MVPrado14
August 29th, 2012
9:22 pm
“pizz off MVPprado”
can’t handle the truth? That’s not my problem.
Mr. Positive
August 29th, 2012
9:22 pm
vitriol spewer (phil)
You sir, are not a true fan.
MIBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
9:23 pm
Good job, David!
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
9:23 pm
Meaningless homer #1….
Mitchell
August 29th, 2012
9:23 pm
Boy, the offense did all they could today.
And a timely home run by David Ross.
Exciting.
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
9:23 pm
The never absent meaninless…
*sigh*
Come on, 7 more…
Lil' Barry Bailout
August 29th, 2012
9:24 pm
Heckuva job by the Braves stand-pat offense during this Padres series. Three games, three runs (not counting today’s garbage-time run, down 7-1).
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
9:24 pm
Mr positive, you, sir, are a moron…
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
9:24 pm
Surely Uggla has a “worthless” HR in him.
jeff
August 29th, 2012
9:25 pm
Just Terrible. no excuse for this nonsense.. lost series to LA, Washington, split in SF and now get smacked around by SD.. in 3 games u score 3 runs.. thats JUST PITIFUL.. im sorry but this is the same show this team showed last year on thier way to a monumental collapse.. I mean seriously. this lineup has too many holes.. Janish cant hit worth a lick uggla and born strike out kings. Tommy Hanson just stinks right now..this team needs to wake up and get with it or enjoy another collapse again. And heres something.. U bring up Mejia in september along with Durango and costanza. Dont call up varvaro and Boscan who cant hit worth nothing. Give Yepez a chance.. seriously just a sad pathetic and a joke statement put up by this team on this road trip…
CaptainMudd
August 29th, 2012
9:25 pm
Hey Fredi—how’s your shrubs doing? Hope your Azaleas have nice showy flowers now that Spring is here. And, oh yes, your team–The Braves; are they ready to go? Great, hope by late, late summer you all will be blooming as well–or at the least, the team will have shown it’s true color(s). Lots of luck there Fredi–a have good one.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
9:25 pm
Surely Hinske has a “worthless” HR in him.
toast
August 29th, 2012
9:26 pm
i can handle the truth, just your overall knowledge and understanding of playing a 162 game schedule is limited.
sure if you were a dodger fan, you threw in the towel losing 2 of 3 to the lowly rockies.
your just not a very astute baseball fan
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
9:26 pm
Surely Juan has a “worthless” HR in him.
Lil' Barry Bailout
August 29th, 2012
9:26 pm
Too many Braves “hitters” are struggling to stay above 0.200
Just pathetic and stupid to think this bunch was going to be any different this year than last.
Nerdville
August 29th, 2012
9:26 pm
Pathetic.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
9:26 pm
This team is built on the worthless HR.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
9:27 pm
What a miserable road trip, plus Francisco is an automatic K when he enters as a pinch hitter.
Brava
August 29th, 2012
9:27 pm
Ho hum, Fredi’s dumb.
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
9:27 pm
Nice touch for the ending.
LakeDawg
August 29th, 2012
9:27 pm
Uggla is the king of meaningless HR’s.
Fredo
August 29th, 2012
9:28 pm
20 game stretch ends with the Braves going 10-10 and winning 2 series out of 6
LakeDawg
August 29th, 2012
9:28 pm
Football is here!
BravesfaninWis
August 29th, 2012
9:28 pm
That is exactly what I am talking about, it takes the Braves 7-8 games to gain just 1 game on the Nats, and it only take 1 game to give it right back to them. Exactly why this team will not win the East. Very happy to see Hanson get the loss, it was WELL DESERVING.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
9:28 pm
Hanson needs a swift kick in the rear end out of the rotation.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
9:29 pm
Not last night, Lakedawg….
Mr. Positive
August 29th, 2012
9:30 pm
Keep your heads up Braves fans. The Braves still have the possibilty of winning 105 games!
MVPrado14
August 29th, 2012
9:30 pm
Dodgers aren’t the team choking away another postseason opportunity for the second year in a row. The Braves are. And anyone who has followed the game and this team long enough can see the writing on the wall. So don’t question my astuteness. Start thinking more with your head and les with your heart and you will see this team for what it really is.
Mr. Positive
August 29th, 2012
9:30 pm
Keep your heads up Braves fans. The Braves still have the possibilty of winning 105 games!
toast
August 29th, 2012
9:30 pm
disappointing road trip, miserable not buying. lose first 2 in SF could have been a disaster. turn it around so go back home and play better baseball. braves team is a good team, certainly not a great team. still delirious if you think last year collapse scenario is around the corner. lucky for most, football starts tomorrow.
Fredo
August 29th, 2012
9:31 pm
old friend Mike Dunn sets up the Nats with an insurance run
toast
August 29th, 2012
9:32 pm
nope mvprado, it’s painfully obvious you don’t have a good grasp of the game. hey football starts tomorrow, more your
toast
August 29th, 2012
9:32 pm
speed
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
9:33 pm
Coach from Friday Night Lights needs to make a locker room speech and ask them if they want it.
jeff
August 29th, 2012
9:35 pm
bad series ? what thats thier 4th straight BAD series..Lost to LA, WAS, a split in SF and series loss in SD.. thier 5-8 in thier last 13 without a series win.. thats not good…. this team needs to get with it..
toast
August 29th, 2012
9:35 pm
braves behind nationals as best road team and you rats are jumping off the ship. too funny, LACK of baseball understanding pure and simple
MVPrado14
August 29th, 2012
9:35 pm
guess we won’t know until the season is over and the Braves are home watching the playoffs. We’ll talk then.
DAM
August 29th, 2012
9:35 pm
MVPprado, your 9:21 is absolutely insane.
Nerdville
August 29th, 2012
9:36 pm
No heart. No fight. Just a bunch of prancing pretenders. Starting Hanson was dumb, but with this puny, flaccid, punchless offense, it didn’t matter who started. Are we done now with this idiotic 6 man rotation? Will they finally demote Hanson and Uggla? You never know with the constant state of indecision by current Braves management. Fredi/Wren move with the quickness of concrete. We could be stuck with the agony of watching them (Uggla and Hanson) through Sept.
toast
August 29th, 2012
9:38 pm
didn’t look at standings yet after the game. did anybody? are we what 4 back in wild card, 5?
Mr. Positive
August 29th, 2012
9:39 pm
Do the Braves make the playoffs?
LakeDawg
August 29th, 2012
9:40 pm
Who cares? Football season is here.
Fredo
August 29th, 2012
9:40 pm
marlins again in business. 2nd and 3rd, no outs
usnavyvolfaninva
August 29th, 2012
9:41 pm
Um, toast, we still LEAD the wildcard…however, at the moment, the Braves are 4 1/2 back of the Nats.
ACE
August 29th, 2012
9:42 pm
Maybe a day off will help, it sure can’t hurt.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
9:42 pm
Putrid….
Some of you posters, that is.
CaptainMudd
August 29th, 2012
9:42 pm
-There are people on this blog with varied degrees of ’shrewdness.’ And ‘knowledge of a 162 game season’–and how it works–may or may not be important respectively. Who the most astutely positioned person to comment cohesively and, regularly, herein is worth something like a 50 cent piece of bubble gum.
toast
August 29th, 2012
9:43 pm
c’mon jeff think before you speak bro! before the dodger series the braves beat the hell out of sub .500 teams for 3 weeks! Nationals went crazy too, can’t help that. now september is loaded with sub .500 teams . dunno not a bad position to go into next month already a playoff team. panic makes people ugly here boy
ACE
August 29th, 2012
9:44 pm
Fredi whinning about the expansion of rosters saying teams should have to declare x amount of players available for that day?? He should have said even with the extra players I still don’t know how to manage them.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
9:44 pm
4 teams within 2 for the wild card. LA, StL, Pit and Atl. 31 games left.
ACE
August 29th, 2012
9:45 pm
Only Fredi would whine about the September call ups. He said it makes September a different game than the other five months.
toast
August 29th, 2012
9:46 pm
thanks for pointing that out navy, never said they win the division. get in someway although obviously winning the division would be ideal. we will see
ACE
August 29th, 2012
9:47 pm
@count, Have to hope the pirates will fade and at least make it a three team race for two spots.
ACE
August 29th, 2012
9:48 pm
Keep running them out there, believe the back of the bubble gum card. For how long?
toast
August 29th, 2012
9:49 pm
braves-cards have edge in wc. got to hope the dodgers and giants beat the hell out of each other. dodgers are scary on paper although that doesn’t always tell the whole story.
just can’t see the pirates holding up next month but they are resilient
ACE
August 29th, 2012
9:50 pm
DOB should have some words of wisdom and some fun tweets from the happy clubhouse.
Fredo
August 29th, 2012
9:51 pm
storen pitched out of the mess, Marlins couldn’t score
Mitchell
August 29th, 2012
9:52 pm
I find myself more disappointed these days after wins like last night than losses like the one this afternoon/evening and Monday night.
It used to be we would occasionally win when we got average pitching or even below average pitching.
Now the only occasions in which the offense is of any use is when Tim Hudson, Mike Minor or Kris Medlen throw shut-outs.
It becomes increasingly painful to watch Paul Maholm, to cite one recent example, give up a second inning home run and know with absolute certainly that the game might as well be called.
It’s happening again, folks.
I’ll take a win any which way they come. Frankly, if not for a couple of early Padre defensive misplays last night we might not have even won that game.
It’s going to take masterful pitching to get to a one game playoff. Forget about the f*ing division.
Way too many blown chances over the past ten days to still be as far as four game back or to have any hope of beating the Nationals.
You’d think a team would be excited by the chance to make the playoffs.
Once again, the Braves just seem scared.
brian
August 29th, 2012
9:55 pm
if the Braves continue to stumble, I wonder how long of a leash Wren gives Fredi G.
I still would like to see how Pendleton would do as interim manager.
CaptainMudd
August 29th, 2012
9:55 pm
Could have left with a crummy 5-5 road trip….but this group is a bit goofed up in the head IMO. The day off tomorrow and their plans should allow at least an hour or two of analyzing their personal professional goals for the remainder of this season. Within the team dynamic–each participant, coach and Fredi must gather some strength from within and vow to increase their respective mental and physical commitments to the great game. 162 my @ss? You go out and make contact with that damn baseball and act like you’re happy to be involved–and, get rif of this non-chalantness…you can and possess the acumen to refrain from embassassing many devoted fans of this great franchise.
LakeDawg
August 29th, 2012
9:55 pm
The Braves have been scared since 1996.
LakeDawg
August 29th, 2012
9:57 pm
CaptainMudd
You’re absolutely correct. Its not talent, its psychological. History tells us it will not be overcome.
ACE
August 29th, 2012
9:57 pm
The Rome braves are trying to lose their playoff bid too.
toast
August 29th, 2012
9:58 pm
becomes increasingly painful to watch Paul Maholm, to cite one recent example, give up a second inning home run and know with absolute certainly that the game might as well be called.
that tough huh? life’s too short my man, don’t torture yourself would be my advice. if this is too painful, get away from it. go to the hospital and volunteer or something, it will give you a more focused and appreciation of what’s important in life on a day to day baseball.
actually just STFU and grow up, act is a tiring one
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 29th, 2012
9:58 pm
Good nite, panic-ridden masses…
Can’t say I feel great either, but tomorrow is…..an off day?
….friday is another day.
ACE
August 29th, 2012
9:59 pm
@Captain, second that comotion
ACE
August 29th, 2012
10:02 pm
Fredi can see last September in the rearview mirror.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
10:04 pm
life’s a bitch, and then you die…
deal with it
vitriolic misantrope
August 29th, 2012
10:06 pm
By the way, Mr. Journalist: the headline is off. According to the OED, the saying is “suffice IT to say.”
toast
August 29th, 2012
10:06 pm
frustrating gotta agree but move on. cards have one of the best offenses in baseball. shut out the last two days. stuff happens man it’s how you deal with adversity. we don’t know how that plays out yet
Mitchell
August 29th, 2012
10:06 pm
I didn’t need to use an expletive in my last post, now did I?
That was superfluous.
I don’t even care nearly enough at this point to get upset about it.
The division is over, period.
No point in arguing. No need for swear words.
That is all.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
10:08 pm
That is all…Mitchell
yeah, right
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
10:08 pm
That game sukked…. what a hard 8th inning. Lordy…
toast
August 29th, 2012
10:08 pm
just same bs from you though mitchell.
seriously, it’s just a old act. fire those lameduck posts off at the end of season if they fall short and you will develop street cred. doing it now you just come across as a yahoo
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
10:08 pm
You can just tell in the body language most of the Braves don’t enjoy playing for Gonzalez and the favoritism played with Uggla and his $13 million ridiculous deal.
No one will admit it. But he doesn’t truly have the locker room with a bunch of these guys — otherwise you’d see the effort.
Nothing personal. But like I said before, a 90-100 win with a 60-70 win manager isn’t worth a darn.
CaptainMudd
August 29th, 2012
10:08 pm
It’s a bit ’smokey’ in here @Ace…..I better watch my wallet too there’s a Robber’s son.
Trader Jack
August 29th, 2012
10:10 pm
Looking at Heath Bell, his walk up music should be “Roll Out The Barrel”
Trey
August 29th, 2012
10:10 pm
I don’t like Hanson, too much.
ACE
August 29th, 2012
10:10 pm
DOB Fredi I don’t want to offend you and miss the off season Harley ride but how long do you plan to run Uggla out there. I am picking my spots. What Spots are those? The ones Frank says is okay.
ACE
August 29th, 2012
10:10 pm
DOB Fredi I don’t want to offend you and miss the off season Harley ride but how long do you plan to run Uggla out there. I am picking my spots. What Spots are those? The ones Frank says is okay.
Playoffs!!!
August 29th, 2012
10:11 pm
What is really different about this year’s Braves’ team, compared to last year’s version that blew the Wild Card lead? Anyone????
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
10:11 pm
I see some people were hating on JV…. sukk on this
Until tonight, JV had 13 straight scoreless appearances (going back to July 22)… he pitched 12.1 Innings. He struck out 13 and walked 8 (High, I know) He only allowed 6 hits. 14 baserunners in 12.1 Innings or 37 outs… not too bad.
Opponents hit .150/.292/.150/.442 off of him during that stretch.
Trey
August 29th, 2012
10:13 pm
Playoffs, last year we didn’t put Medlen into the Starting Rotation, nor did we have Paul Maholm, but that’s about it.
toast
August 29th, 2012
10:14 pm
let’s see, we probably won’t start 2 rookies down the stretch in delgado and teheran for one. let’s see, kimbrel, venters, and o were on fumes and not very productive last season which in no way is the case this september. gotta hit no doubt, but let’s not get overboard thinking a duplicate situation happens.
it might, but doubtful
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
10:14 pm
What is really different about this year’s Braves’ team, compared to last year’s version that blew the Wild Card lead? Anyone????
We’re healthier…. we’re not loosing pitchers left and right. Our bullpen is more rested. The starting position players are a bit more rested (though I think some of then still need more rest)
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
10:16 pm
Hanson struggles again, surprise, surprise…. hope he gets better soon, but he really doesn’t need to be in the rotation. He’s hurting his trade value…
not that he’s had any recently.
monty
August 29th, 2012
10:17 pm
Venters left everything up tonite. Sinker not sinking at all.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
10:17 pm
well we are kinda losing pitchers. Sheets down and Hanson getting worse most starts.
monty
August 29th, 2012
10:19 pm
Bout what I expected with Hanson, I thought he would throw well his 1st game back(he did) but I was worried about the next couple of starts after.
toast
August 29th, 2012
10:22 pm
fredi pulled a rock tonight but that didn’t cost us the game. still sometimes gotta manage with what your gut and he rarely does that which drives me nuts. take hanson out and pinch hit. obvious he wasn’t medlen like tonight. 2nd and 3rd no outs, use all your righthanded hitters who cares. rev should have batted and play for a big inning. even 2 runs not feeling good about your chances, play for the big inning was the call there. fredi gotta go by gut feeling more often
still offense gives you nothing remainder of the game and series so point fingers there.
move on. bring on the fightin phils who lost a series at home against the mets.
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
10:22 pm
Nats snapped their 5-game skid, so Braves are exactly where they were when trip began — 5 games behind Washington. Failed to capitalize on Nats’ losing streak.
Playoffs!!!
August 29th, 2012
10:24 pm
toast—Kimbrel, EOF and Venters on fumes. You’re 2/3 right, except for EOF who missed signif time in 2011. So what if Venters is more rested now, he’s not the same pitcher.
And Delgado, by the way, would be an improvement over Hanson.
Yeah, we have Medlen, BIG plus–but we are minus Beechy.
Playoffs!!!
August 29th, 2012
10:24 pm
toast—Kimbrel, EOF and Venters on fumes. You’re 2/3 right, except for EOF who missed signif time in 2011. So what if Venters is more rested now, he’s not the same pitcher.
And Delgado, by the way, would be an improvement over Hanson.
Yeah, we have Medlen, BIG plus–but we are minus Beechy.
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
10:24 pm
What is different about this season’s Braves team?
Last season, the club didn’t know if it could trust its manager.
This season, they know that can’t trust the manager and every time a lot of them try to stick it up his rear end, he pulls his shtick.
EXAMPLE: Benching Heyward last week in San Francisco.
GONZALEZ: Nice guy. Honorable guy. BRUTAL field commander. Hasn’t been this way since the great Eddie Haas tore apart the club in ‘84.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
10:24 pm
every body has a crappy game, wait and see what Johhny’s next coupla outings are like. course I know that the preferred blog action is to immediately go into a panic, but lets try another approach…
toast
August 29th, 2012
10:24 pm
hanson maybe gets one more start and if he repeats, go with delgado in september
nolie
August 29th, 2012
10:26 pm
every body has a crappy game, wait and see what Johhny’s next coupla outings are like. course I know that the preferred blog action is to immediately go into a panic, but lets try another approach..
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
10:27 pm
Chipper Jones @RealCJ10
Got spanked today! Out hit, out pitched and out played on D. Lookin forward to day off and Shea’s birthday tmrw. Braves fans in SD, awesome!
Happy birthday tomorrow, Shea.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
10:28 pm
hmmmmm, pourin’ doubles again I see
toast
August 29th, 2012
10:28 pm
phils have bitch slapped you the last 3 seasons. won 7 in a row against them which gives you confidence playing this team. if they don’t win this series and do enough hitting, blame fredi all you want. still the guys playing aren’t getting it done. rockies in for 4 afterwards. win 5 of 7 and your in good shape regardless of wc or division. 3 with the nats in mid september on your turf. how bad you want to win for chipper? can blame fat fredi on everything, these guys are professionals. win regardless
nite all
Playoffs!!!
August 29th, 2012
10:31 pm
Sorry folks, but it looks like the same fading team as last year. Cardinals are in a better position now than they were in 2011. Dodgers have added Adrain Gonzalez and Hanley Ramirez, among others.
They both are better now, and we have lost 8 of 12.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
10:32 pm
el crapola game, day off caint hurt. hasta luego
nolie
August 29th, 2012
10:33 pm
WHAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
10:33 pm
hanson maybe gets one more start and if he repeats, go with delgado in september
Wouldn’t mind that…
CaptainMudd
August 29th, 2012
10:34 pm
Fredi raising his ‘brows,’ tilting his head to one side while raising his eybrows emphatically. A speaking engagement to explain his team’s performance; did I say swinks eyes while answering a quiry? Seems he too, has mental reservations…and, why not? More swinks…a swink in lieu of words as per delicate subject matter.
Answering similarly each and every time…Fredi has it down, he knows not to say much…the post-game experience is dull and boring–Jerome and Jordan likewise, offer the typical brevity. I am watching because I like the experience, I am a Braves fan…I need to know.
I don’t need any Barry Manilow…I just need to know….and I’ve been on this 162 game go…I need a Journey song to flow—and, rest a while in an empty silo. “The Wheel In The Sky” keeps on………..
Trader Jack
August 29th, 2012
10:36 pm
nolie
August 29th, 2012
10:28 pm
hmmmmm, pourin’ doubles again I see
This game can do that to you – LOL
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
10:36 pm
Wait, I must jump off of a bridge tonight… the Braves lost. If I was a fan of the great Nationals or Dodgers, I would always be happy.
George
August 29th, 2012
10:37 pm
San Diego won — 61 —- lost 71
Atlanta CHOKE Braves — won 74 —- lost 57
Very UP and DOWN.
Bravefaninok
August 29th, 2012
10:38 pm
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
Watching #angels. Greatest mystery is how they are only 5 games over .500. Terrific lineup, great names.
Funny thing about baseball,you never know what will happen next.
Playoffs!!!
August 29th, 2012
10:39 pm
A Bomb—-Agreed. He is a brutal field commander. A brutal in-game stategist. Dubious lineups. He hardly ever has his players’ backs. That has to be discouraging, especially since Bobby always did.
He seems grim on the bench, uptight and that has to rub off on the players—especially as the losses mount.. Nothing very relaxed and inspiring at all about Fredi.
Players have to feel if they go 0-4 they might drop from batting third to hitting in the 7 hole.
I don’t think he has the respect of the players
nolie
August 29th, 2012
10:41 pm
yadda yadda yadda, Fredi deserves to die, yadda yadda yadda
ACE
August 29th, 2012
10:46 pm
Does a tweet about how bad you played make it okay.
Mitchell
August 29th, 2012
10:46 pm
LakeDawg
August 29th, 2012
9:55 pm
The Braves have been scared since 1996.
Didn’t even want to go there. You went there, LD.
The truth doesn’t hurt. It kills.
I hate hearing about how good the Braves have been at “rebounding” and “salvaging” series or road trips.
It’s the same reason they have been utterly irrelevant in the post-season since the mid to late ’90s.
From the 2001 NLCS to the 2010 NLDS the Braves lost the first game of every playoff series they appeared in.
They repeated the same pattern again and again of having to rebound from a Game 1 loss until finally running out of chances to stave off eventual elimination; never capable of taking the upper hand.
The Nationals have managed to turn their culture of losing around completely.
The Braves haven’t changed a bit.
ACE
August 29th, 2012
10:47 pm
We want Fredi to live a long long time as manager of another team in this division.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
10:48 pm
The Nationals have managed to turn their culture of losing around completely…Mitchell
yeah winning one of their last 6 is so impressive.
at least try to make a wee bit of sense with your silly posits
nolie
August 29th, 2012
10:49 pm
now that sounds like a good idea ACE
ACE
August 29th, 2012
10:49 pm
The Nats have a manager who knows about winning on and off the field. Fredi not so much.
Trader Jack
August 29th, 2012
10:52 pm
Looks like we get Halladay, Lee and Hamels this weekend
nolie
August 29th, 2012
10:52 pm
the Nats are screaming at each other and fans and management alike are POed at Johnson for his laid back approach with no sense of urgency. Gee where have I read that b4?
nolie
August 29th, 2012
10:53 pm
guess we hit the jackpot, Jack
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
10:54 pm
I’m feeling a sweep by the Braves Trader Jack! We love to hit Aces hard…
nolie
August 29th, 2012
10:56 pm
perhaps in part because Aces are often fastball pitchers and we are a much better fastball hitting tean then slow stuff
Trader Jack
August 29th, 2012
10:56 pm
TOBF
I hope so, but it won’t be easy
Playoffs!!!
August 29th, 2012
10:57 pm
nolie—yeah, but they are still 5 in front. By the way, who would you rather have managing your playoff team–Davey Johnson or Fredi Gonzalez?
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
10:58 pm
Updated game story with quotes, etc.
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/08/29/braves-blown-out-in-san-diego-finish-4-6-trip-with-thud/
Trader Jack
August 29th, 2012
10:58 pm
Nolie
Spot on. Soft tossin’ lefties eat us alive, witness tonight
nolie
August 29th, 2012
10:59 pm
they are a better team, they should be ahead.
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
10:59 pm
Bravos quotage
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/08/29/braves-quotes-after-wednesdays-loss-to-padres/
nolie
August 29th, 2012
11:03 pm
Johnson
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
11:03 pm
Telling quotes (thanks to DOB).
“Maybe he’ll get it going.”
Doesn’t sound like there’s a lot of confidence there.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
11:04 pm
test
tiger297
August 29th, 2012
11:08 pm
we have 4 offdays the rest of the year…if we work it right on regular rest we can limit hanson to 5 more starts
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
11:11 pm
I’d rather have Bobby, Gibson, LaRussa….
MFin04
August 29th, 2012
11:12 pm
Every day feeling more and more like a collapse, just throw a lefty at the Braves and they piss themselves.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
11:12 pm
How about limit Hanson to no more starts? Let him work out of the ‘pen and hopefully build up a little value as a reliever…
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
11:15 pm
Most around here act shocked when we struggle against lefties.
That’s what happens when you create a lefthanded team and you miss on a righty power guy who digresses. That couldn’t be foreseen. But in the long run you can’t win being this lefthanded.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
11:15 pm
who we gonna start if we don’t start Tommy?
nolie
August 29th, 2012
11:16 pm
if we losr Bourn we need to replace him with a righty IMO
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
11:16 pm
Telling quotes (thanks to DOB).
“Maybe he’ll get it going.”
Doesn’t sound like there’s a lot of confidence there. — The A Bomb
I took it the same way as you did.
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
11:17 pm
Start Hanson and pitch by committee. Like tonight he should’ve been hit for in the 5th. No reason to have a long rope.
And today with a day off tomorrow there was no excuse for not pulling out all the stops.
brian
August 29th, 2012
11:18 pm
nolie – it would almost have to be teheran.
Anders
August 29th, 2012
11:19 pm
What’s up Braves fans? Can 2007 and 2008 (Mets) = 2011 and 2012 (Braves)? Talk about vindication. Well for me anyway.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
11:19 pm
Delgado, Gilmartin (jk)…. Guess Delgado is the only one…. Sheets isn’t available until Sept 10 and who knows how good he’ll be. Wasn’t Avilan a starter with AA? Surely he could step in. Someone has to be better than Tommy has lately (.300 OBA in last 4-5 starts). Especially for possibly just 2 starts, at most 4-5…
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
11:22 pm
brian: Teheran hasn’t done much this year…. I’m unsure, but am leaning towards not wanting Teheran called up… let’s not put any more pressure on the kid. Let him finish his year and look forward to getting better in AAA next year.
Start Hanson and pitch by committee. Like tonight he should’ve been hit for in the 5th. No reason to have a long rope.
True, but if he’s only pitching 4 innings, why let him start? He’s been like this for a while now…
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
11:22 pm
DOB Fredi I don’t want to offend you and miss the off season Harley ride but how long do you plan to run Uggla out there. I am picking my spots. What Spots are those? The ones Frank says is okay. — ace
Can we all chip in to at least get this guy enough money to rent a Harley for a day? It’s pathetic.
brian
August 29th, 2012
11:22 pm
it would be interesting to hear some Wren quotes. He had to have been pacing a lot during this game
Playoffs!!!
August 29th, 2012
11:23 pm
Delgado over Hanson, at this point. Rosters expand in couple days..
A Bomb—Agreed with you 1000% about being too lefthanded. The fatal flaw of this team. Blame the architect What makes it worse is that two of the righthanded hitters we count on are Janish and Dan Uggla.
Braveone
August 29th, 2012
11:23 pm
From the previous blog which had 1,215 comments, TheOnlyBravesFan led the way with 84 posts. There were 153 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:
Rank Poster Frequency
1 TheOnlyBravesFan 84
2 Animus 58
3 nolie 53
4 Brava 48
5 CHOP SHOP 48
6 Brian from SC 42
7 phil 41
8 Arkansas Transplant 34
9 raleighbravefan 34
10 Lew 33
11 Efrim 29
12 David O’Brien 26
13 Mark 26
14 TennesseePaul 23
15 Ralph 22
16 brian 22
17 tiger297 20
18 Venice Jim 19
19 count_schemula 18
20 Jeff R 17
21 CaptainMudd 16
22 Sopheee 15
23 CB 14
24 MFin04 14
25 ACE 13
brian
August 29th, 2012
11:24 pm
Teheran has had a few good starts here at the end of the year – if he has learned the slider………
Delgado or Christian Martinez would be the other 2 options. Don’t see the Braves going for Gilmartin or JR Graham.
It will be Tommy
brian
August 29th, 2012
11:25 pm
we don’t count on Janish for anything offensively.
Uggla is of course a different story. He was supposed to be that right handed power bat we have been missing for so long
Mitchell
August 29th, 2012
11:26 pm
nolie
August 29th, 2012
10:26 pm
every body has a crappy game
And then there’s Dan Uggla. But where was I?
To panic is to react irrationally, nolie. If anyone is truly panicking it can only mean they spent last September in a vegetative coma, in which case they have no idea how much they much they should in fact be panicking.
It’s utterly rational for anyone who’s followed this team long enough to be genuinely concerned about a second collapse.
To have no doubts, to be completely and utterly convinced of the Braves eventual splendid success is to be on the opposite end of the irrationality scale.
I don’t know about you my friend, but I chose to take the road less crazy.
Anders
August 29th, 2012
11:28 pm
who we gonna start if we don’t start Tommy? (nolie)
I bet Roger Clemens would be willing to toe the rubber for your club. {:
Mitchell
August 29th, 2012
11:30 pm
David O’Brien
August 29th, 2012
10:59 pm
Bravos quotage
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/08/29/braves-quotes-after-wednesdays-loss-to-padres/
Who the F cares?
Not me at least.
Until next time.
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
11:30 pm
I’m not as concerned with Janish as Simmons will be back.
As much as I like Bourn, and Chipper’s leaving, Angel Pagan and Chase Headley would make this lineup a helluva lot more serviceable.
Prado can remain in LF or become the SUPER U guy I think would really help this team IF we keep Johnson.
Think about this…
Pagan CF
Simmons SS
Prado LF
Heyward RF
Headley 3B
Freeman 1B
McCann C
Uggla 2B
That would be a very nice lineup to go with a starting staff of:
Hudson
Maholm
Medlen
Minor
Delgado/Teheran
And Beachy comes back in ‘14 to replace Hudson.
We’d be OK.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
11:30 pm
who we gonna start if we don’t start Tommy? (nolie)
Oh, and how could I forget? Oswalt is available.
Anders
August 29th, 2012
11:37 pm
Plenty of tickets left for all three Braves games in Pittsburgh to end the season. I assume you guys are loading up on them to go support your club in what figures to be games of the clinching variety?
chipontheroad
August 29th, 2012
11:38 pm
tommy is an energy vampire
ACE
August 29th, 2012
11:44 pm
DOB I will take cash.
ACE
August 29th, 2012
11:46 pm
Also thank you for your consideration
uga-brave
August 29th, 2012
11:53 pm
he’s probably more of a vespa guy.
richbrave
August 30th, 2012
12:05 am
DOWN ON THE FARM
GWINNETT
G-Men fall 9-4 to the RED SOX. Lots of hits and enough runs to win. Some pretty terrible pitching by CORY GEARRIN. The starter wasn’t thet great either.
LHSP SEAN GILMARTIN [4.28 ERA] 4.1 IP, 8 H, 1 HR, 3 R/ER, 0 BB, 3 SO.
The soph takes his lumps this start. But that’s all part of the learning process.
RHRP PETER MOYLAN [5.68 ERA] 1.1 IP, 1 H, 1 R/ER, 2 BB, 1 SO.
LHRP ANTHONY VARVARO [2.11 ERA] 2.0 IP, 1 H, zeros, 1 BB, 0 SO.
Even PETE gets in on the sieve-act tonight. Those walks will kill ya’.
RHRP CORY GEARRIN [L 3-2, 2.18 ERA] 0.0 IP, 5 H, 5 R/ER, 2 BB, 0 SO.
I don’t know WHAT in the world happen to CORY tonight.
LHRP RYAN BUCHTER [11.57 ERA] 1.0 IP, pristine, 1 SO.
RYAN does a bit of fence-mending around his ERA.
Tons of hits, but the bats just couldn’t keep up.
Lead-off LF JOSE CONSTANZA [.317 BA] 3-4, 1 R, 1 RBI [27], 1 SAC.
SS JACK WILSON [.197 BA] 2-4, 1 R, 1 2B [4], 1 RBI [6], 1 SAC, 1 E [2,fielding].
1B LYLE OVERBAY [.286 BA] 3-5, 1 2B [3], 1 RBI [3], 1 SO.
DH ERNESTO MEJIA [.302 BA] 1-5, 1 RBI [92], 2 SO.
CF LUIS DURANGO [.290 BA] 2-4, 2 R, 2 SB [45], 1 CS [15]
richbrave
August 30th, 2012
12:08 am
DOWN ON THE FARM
MISSISSIPPI
League-wide closure to selebrate some rain no doubt.
The A Bomb
August 30th, 2012
12:13 am
Constanza just keeps hitting. And he produced with the big club but is not projectable.
Gotta give him a lot of credit for keeping the ball rolling and keeping a great attitude. Probably better not being subjected to Gonzalez the Mindf#*#*r.
Venice Jim
August 30th, 2012
12:19 am
Well, at least the last two Chipper at bats I saw in person were hits. Time for bed after the return trip…
kenhotlanta
August 30th, 2012
12:27 am
The A Bomb: Eddie Haas in 1984. I remember Ernie Johnson or Skip said toward the beginning of that season that Eddie ran the best, most organized Spring Training they had ever seen and everyone was expecting big things that year.
But it went to hell in a handbasket in a hurry and I never understood what went wrong and why Haas was quickly fired. We didn’t have blogs and insider reporting back then like we do now. I heard he “lost control of the team/players”, but not the details and have always wondered how it went bad so fast.
If you or anyone knows what happened, I would be forever grateful, because it’s a mystery I have always wanted the answer to.
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
12:38 am
Not exactly sure why we’re continuing with throwing Hanson out there game after game watching him struggle. They need to send him down so he can work on somethings and possibly try to get straight before seasons end. We have too many other options to continually do this. I don’t think we’re doing much to help him except destory his confidence. His fastball is nothing more than a BP pitch. It’s as straight as an arrow and completely erratic.
ccrider
August 30th, 2012
12:42 am
I hope Hanson doesn’t start another game for the Braves, his stuff is just not there anymore
ccrider
August 30th, 2012
12:42 am
I hope Hanson doesn’t start another game for the Braves, his stuff is just not there anymore
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
12:42 am
richbrave, that Ryan Buchter is a player that I find intriging. He’s been pretty successful at every level, seems to have a high K rate, good command and gives up less than a hit an inning. Do you know anything about him?
The A Bomb
August 30th, 2012
1:24 am
ken — complaints from those like Glenn Hubbard who said Haas didn’t allow cheering in the dugout, was a control freak and squashed any enthusiasm. A real dictator.
Now I don’t put Gonzalez in THAT category. But he’s in the same neighborhood. Despite all the hugging led by his godson Uggla, you can feel how tight this team gets at times. Different rules for different players. You WON’T win with that kind of leadership.
I don’t doubt Gonzalez is a good man with good values. But the player of today won’t buy in to micromanagement.He’s so robotic it’s destructive in some games. This team COULD make the World Series, but not with its current leadership. No way.
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
1:28 am
scratch that, looks like the command may be the problem.. way too high of a walk rate. Outside of that, very nice numbers.
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
1:30 am
Don’t quite understand the double standards your talking about.
Ward
August 30th, 2012
2:12 am
Hello everyone! Hanson isn’t working too hard at winning a starting job is he? Hanson should be traded, and no questions. Too much inconsistancy in his pitching, and Braves don’t need him down the stretch. Hanson is just not even a 4th man in rotation.
Ward
August 30th, 2012
2:13 am
Hanson should be done, and that is that.
Ward
August 30th, 2012
2:16 am
Hanson, has pitched his last season, as a Brave. Maybe some will feel sorry, and grab, him, but even that is an “If”??????
Ward
August 30th, 2012
2:19 am
Hanson, and J.J. Have something in common, and they both suck……Last season,as a Brave. Well, time to move, and shake it off, and will hope for better results the next series?
Ward
August 30th, 2012
2:25 am
I’m starting to have a not so good feeling down this stretch, but I’m still trying to remain hopeful.
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
2:26 am
Hanson is still only 25.. I think it may be just a little premature to give up on him. He’s still really cheap. I’d just option him down to the minors so he can work on his issues and maybe right himself. Way too much value there just to let it go.
Ward
August 30th, 2012
2:28 am
Screw , Hanson, and that is that…….I’m cool other wise, but Hanson needs to go! I’m done……
Ward
August 30th, 2012
2:28 am
I’m giving up on Hanson, and he’s done in my book.
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
2:31 am
You know you like Hanson.
Ward
August 30th, 2012
2:32 am
I’m cool, but just had with Hanson. Most of his wins, Braves had to score more runs than he gave up.
Ward
August 30th, 2012
2:32 am
Nope…….
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
2:33 am
Most of his wins, Braves had to score more runs than he gave up.
Well, acutally.. that’s the only way you can win a game. Score more than you give up.
Ward
August 30th, 2012
2:35 am
i’m not going to watch any more Hnson starts….. Glad football is coming……
Ward
August 30th, 2012
2:36 am
Hanson has been given up more than 4 runs a game.
Ward
August 30th, 2012
2:37 am
Hanson is no (Ace), and never will be one. I’ll end it as that.
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
2:38 am
Oh, your just upset about the loss… you know deep down that you still like Hanson. It was just a little over a year ago how everyone thought he was our ace. He just needs to strengthen his legs and work on his delivery point and you really can’t do those things on this level. They need to send him down to get back to where he needs to be. He needs to work on his leg strength so that he can use them more to get his fastball speed back up. But he could be throwing a hunderd and ten mph right now and still be getting lit up… his fastball has absolutely no movement at all, except back at him.
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
2:40 am
i’m not going to watch any more Hnson starts
I will be.. but that’s mainly because I still support the team and hope they win. No matter who’s on the mound or at the plate.
Ward
August 30th, 2012
2:41 am
Arkansa Transplant – I’m not upset. A little frustrated, and seen enough of Hanson, and will end as that. I hope the Braves bounce back, but don’t like the looks of it.
Ward
August 30th, 2012
2:43 am
Arkansas Transplant – I’m still going to root for the team too, but I’m done with Hanson.
Ward
August 30th, 2012
2:49 am
Anyway, I would love the Braves to win the Wild Card, but I don’t like whats happening now. Frustrated, but not to go off the deep…. deep end…… Will be cool , but Hanson needs to start pitching like an (Ace) before I even consider changing my mind. When I get frustrated I do misspell more, but I’m going to keep hope…..
Ward
August 30th, 2012
2:55 am
All, have a good one! My frusration runs deep with Hanson right now. He’s no Medlen…. All be cool, as I’m going to chill now. Peace My friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
3:09 am
Keep the hope alive… Hands for Hanson!!
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
3:10 am
Good night, Ward. May you have Hansons dancing in your dreams.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
5:23 am
I’d just option him down to the minors so he can work on his issues and maybe right himself
3 to 3.5 mil is quite a bit to spend to hope that he rights himself. While it would be nice to see, I don’t know if the Braves can afford to wait on Hanson.
Couch Tater
August 30th, 2012
5:40 am
“That tells you how valuable [Prado] is,” veteran Braves catcher David Ross said. “He’s one of my favorite teammates. Doesn’t complain about anything. Valuable piece, man.
Doesn’t complain. Valuable.
cowdogit
August 30th, 2012
6:27 am
I hope the new manager will not be obligated to Bobby Cox, It,s obvious that Cox is protecting McDowell,even after seven years of miserable failure he will not admit that replacing Mazzone with McDowell, was the dumbest move ever made by a braves manager. By not replacing the fat boys with speed,Fredi has assured he will not return next year.
Astral
August 30th, 2012
7:02 am
I try to stay positive but that was a disappointing series in San Diego.
I hope we can bounce back
Astral
August 30th, 2012
7:05 am
I often wonder if you are kidding with your posts cowdogit.
It seems hard to accept that some one could actually believe that stuff.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 30th, 2012
7:08 am
Cowdogit is, um, scary….
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
7:18 am
Hanson is starting to look more like Jurrjens. Agh!
Couch Tater
August 30th, 2012
7:24 am
Anders –
FYI. Your U-boat missed. Too many jokkuls in the drunkkenfodder. Ja dig?
Bat Masterson
August 30th, 2012
7:35 am
Hanson ………… A cautionary tale for all the “let’s lock or sign so and so pitcher to a long term contract”
I read a list of players that needed to be locked up long term on here,yesterday I think it was, that included Simmons a guy the Braves control for six more years and has played a handful of big league games.
Bat Masterson
August 30th, 2012
7:38 am
Wow……. I mistakenly took John Huntsman for Charlie Christ just now. It’s the tan
Bat Masterson
August 30th, 2012
7:40 am
They do have something else in common, though.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
7:41 am
Hanson is starting to look more like Jurrjens. Agh!
Been that way for a while now…
Hanson ………… A cautionary tale for all the “let’s lock or sign so and so pitcher to a long term contract”
As with Jurrjens, injuries are a b!atch. Ruined 2 good pitchers. Probably both become at least #2s, and Tommy might’ve become a 1, if not for injuries. Darned shame.
Bat Masterson
August 30th, 2012
7:42 am
Oh yeah, that game last night was a real drag.
cowdogit
August 30th, 2012
7:43 am
Fourteen division titles for Mazzone, McDowell will never win a title even if he stays another fifty years.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
7:48 am
Mazzone won those division titles? I thought his 3 HOF pitchers did… just to be fair, I’m not seeing 3 HOF pitchers on this staff, or on any of the staffs that McDowell has had. He’s done a fair job, in my opinion.
Bat Masterson
August 30th, 2012
7:49 am
He might win the longevity title. I would have to check the record to be sure though and I have more important things to do. Like cuss at idiots on TV. Joe Kernen exhibit A
richbrave
August 30th, 2012
7:53 am
DOWN ON THE FARM
DANVILLE
D-Rookies skunked in their first play-off game for the APPY League champiuonship 4-0 by the TWINS.
2B LEVI HYAMS [.250 BA[ 1-4
3B CARLOS FRANCO [.250 BA] 1-4, 1 2B [1].
BA are play-offs only. Two hits….that’s it.
Three BRAVES pitchers didn’t perform particularly badly especially the relief [RAFA BRICENO and CLINT WRIGHT] who blanked the TWINS through the last three innings on three hits while striking out five.
richbrave
August 30th, 2012
7:56 am
JOE “I am God’ KERNAN? Why so BAT?
Bat Masterson
August 30th, 2012
8:00 am
He condescends to serious people and praises unserious people. A propogater of mythology that is remarkably disconnected from reality.
CrαZy
August 30th, 2012
8:12 am
Screw , Hanson,
Screw, Ward, and that is that…… It’s cool ward
I’m more upset about our offense and defense last night than I am Hanson.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
8:21 am
Hanson did contribute to that bad defense too…But yes, that was one ugly ballgame. And our RH lineup didn’t do too well against the lefty. Might as well have gone with the normal lineup… then again, Stults is a good pitcher.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
8:25 am
Gotta still ask if Hanson is tradeable… esp. to the people who think he was/is… he’s been bad for a while now. (practically all season, and part of last year too)
tiger297
August 30th, 2012
8:25 am
love watching the bucs put it on the cardinals again
aside from the braves stomping the phillies who do we pull for this weekend the cardinals to help us close on the division or the nats to maybe break the cardinals back in the wildcard chase?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
8:31 am
Root for the Cards…. the prize is the division, any help we can get for that we’ll take. We can get the wild-card without help, we control our destiny there.
tbjjol
August 30th, 2012
8:41 am
What has happened to Tommy Hanson’s velocity?
CrαZy
August 30th, 2012
8:43 am
How to choose your team….
http://tinypic.com/r/2061rg5/6
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
8:53 am
Crazy: Nice pic… the ones that lead to the Braves fit me pretty well, I must say.
David O'Brien
August 30th, 2012
8:59 am
Braves have hit .211 and scored 35 runs during current 4-8 stretch, with 14 of the runs coming in two games Sat.-Sun. at S.F.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
8:59 am
As with Jurrjens, injuries are a b!atch. Ruined 2 good pitchers. Probably both become at least #2s, and Tommy might’ve become a 1, if not for injuries. Darned shame.
Right now, I can’t see Jurrjens as a 2-slot pitcher unless he’s throwing for a very poor team. Hanson may still have a chance.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
9:09 am
Ah, I phrased that wrong Jeff…. I meant that I think both JJ and Hanson would have become #2s if they hadn’t gotten hurt.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
9:11 am
Ah, I phrased that wrong Jeff…. I meant that I think both JJ and Hanson would have become #2s if they hadn’t gotten hurt.
Gotcha. I agree. Injuries. That’s why a team can’t have enough pitching talent in the pipeline.
Bob the Blogger
August 30th, 2012
9:13 am
The loss of Hanson’s velocity raises a red flag for me. It indicates somthing is going on more serious than a slump. If they can get to the root of his problem and fix it, he could resume his role as a middle of the rotation starter. With his age and years of experience, he should be entering his prime right now.
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
9:19 am
Hanson needs to learn to use his lower half to help generate a little more power. It looks to me like he doesn’t use his legs to help him drive to the plate. But it also looks like he may want to start doing some leg strenthen drills too.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 30th, 2012
9:22 am
David O’Brien
August 30th, 2012
8:59 am
Braves have hit .211 and scored 35 runs during current 4-8 stretch, with 14 of the runs coming in two games Sat.-Sun. at S.F.
***********
And there you have it in an obvious nutshell….while Hanson just isn’t very good these days, we can’t hit the stinking ball with any consistency. This coming week, we’ll hit .375, then go right back to .211 the next week. It really is enough to make your hair fall out…
Fortunately, giving up large numbers of runs in games has been rare of late. Of course, someone in the last day or two pointed out that we hadn’t given up more than 3 or 4 in a game in something like 20 straight? Naturally, we then proceeded to do just that.
But with no bats, it didn’t matter anyway. Chipper cannot carry this bunch any longer. His reign ends in one month. Depressing thought.
Dadgum.......
August 30th, 2012
9:25 am
While I’m delighted that Medlen is doing his best Brandon Beachy impersonation here are a few things that have me on edge:
#1 – you now have to go back 5 series to find the Braves winning one. Certainly that will change. Won’t it? If not the Braves miss the playoffs.
Uggla – I relegate him to the bench and put Prado at 2nd and Reed Johnson in LF. Paying the man 14 mil to challenge the Mendoza line is absurd. Perfect for pinch hitting or giving Prado a breather but outside that he is hurting this team playing every game.
McCann – hate say it really but he is our 2nd best catcher. Maybe it’s blasphemy but at any rate Ross is our best defensive catcher and better hitter right now. If I’m playing to win down the stretch I would go with Ross more and have McCann spell him on occasion.
5th starter – luckily the Braves won’t need one that often but when Sheets gets back he replaces Hanson. Then if we make the playoffs both Sheets and Hanson don’t start or one goes to the pen and the other is left off the post season roster. We win with Hudson, Medlen, Minor, & Maholm or go home.
Fredi G – we all know that if Atlanta implodes again down the stretch that Fredi G becomes Fredi adieu. Get it? Seriously he said to the AJC that he was not going to be patient in September. Great! Let’s see how long Uggla stays in the lineup for starters. The Braves will probably get the 2nd wild card IMO but Fredi will have to whistle past the graveyard to get it done.
Rock on….folks we just totaled 4 runs against the Padres while getting blanked by a rookie starting his first game in the bigs. Tell me it gets better. Please.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
9:26 am
Hanson needs to learn to use his lower half to help generate a little more power. It looks to me like he doesn’t use his legs to help him drive to the plate. But it also looks like he may want to start doing some leg strenthen drills too.
Agree…. He’s always seemed to be a more arm-throwing pitcher…. that’s probably how he hurt himself.
David O'Brien
August 30th, 2012
9:28 am
Pitching matchups vs. Phillies — Minor vs. Halladay on Fri., Hudson vs. Lee on Sat., Maholm vs. TBA on Sunday.
phoenix
August 30th, 2012
9:33 am
Is there anyone who didn’t see it coming….when Chipper/Janish bungled the pop-up, was there any doubt that Hanson would implode? Then after he lazily mis-fielded the bunt, didn’t you just know it was going to be a big inning? Good pitchers suck it up and pitch out of trouble, they get past fielding mistakes. Hanson cannot do that. He proves it every start.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
9:33 am
What has happened to Tommy Hanson’s velocity?
Injured his shoulder in June of 2011 and has not been the same since. I didn’t watch the game last night, any reason why Fredi didn’t let Hanson finish the 5th inning? I know he started to fall apart in the 4th, but I was a little surprised he took him out when he did.
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
9:34 am
that’s probably how he hurt himself.
I would think it definitely strains all parts of his arm and his back for that matter.
But right now, his FB is at best a good BP pitch. It’s as straight as an arrow, without any velocity.
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
9:36 am
Hanson’s best problems last night… walks and errors. They pretty much did him in. He had runs on every inning I think. First run to score, was a walked batter.
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
9:38 am
Efrim, do you know anything about this player? Ryan Buchter? Seems to me he must have pretty good stuff with a lot of swings and misses but has a high walk rate.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
9:38 am
any reason why Fredi didn’t let Hanson finish the 5th inning?
8 Hits in 4.2 Innings, and the dude was getting lit up like a Christmas tree. He got saved by his defense a few times, and then even that collapsed in the 5th. No need to let Hanson continue to lose the game.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
9:41 am
Hanson “Tradeable Value” Hanson has sure helped his value….
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
At this rate, yes. RT @joeseroski: @ajcbraves Probably safe to say Hanson would be left out of postseason rotation?
Dan Uggla @FakeDanUggla
First, Hurricane Isaac. Now, Tommy Hanson. How many more disasters can the south handle?
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
Tommy Hanson’s line: 4.2 IP, 8 H, 4 R (3 ER), 2 BB, 3 K, 83 pitches (48 for strikes). #Braves trail the Padres 4-1, top of the 6th
Horrible.
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
Hanson did not create the mess (well kind of w/ the bunt). But the point is he does not have the stuff to escape or minimize damage now
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
3-1 count w/ first base open against this lineup…Thought he would have been more careful w/ Headley
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
9:44 am
Comment From Nicj
Will the cardinals go after hamilton
3:38 Ben Nicholson-Smith: I don’t expect them to. I think the Cardinals will look for bench help and lefty relief this year. Plus, they may want to extend Adam Wainwright. That team is really well stocked with bats so I don’t see them spending $100MM-plus on Hamilton.
EOF traded there in a package for Jay? I would like that.
Comment From Buffalo Ted Returns
Can 1 billion buy the Braves when Dodgers went for $2 Billions and Padres for $800 million?
3:39 Ben Nicholson-Smith: I would guess the Braves would be over $1 billion, but that’s just me.
Comment From Guest
Would Ellsbury make sense for Atlanta?
3:46 Ben Nicholson-Smith: Yes, if they believe he is ready to perform at an All-Star level again.
Comment From Michael
What does the Phillies outfield look like next year? Any chance they sign a big name player?
3:57 Ben Nicholson-Smith: I can see the Phillies signing Bourn or even Victorino.
Please not Bourn…
Dadgum.......
August 30th, 2012
9:45 am
Efrim….Hanson wasn’t getting it done and we now are seeing the new non-patient Fredi fighting to keep his job. Don’t think you will see Hanson start again as Sheets looks to come back next week late. I will also go as far as saying you may never see Hanson pitch again in Atlanta. He won’t make the post season roster and I can’t see him beating out Delgado next year or Teheran for that matter.
Speaking of pitching next year. Sheets probably isn’t signed in the off season. Maholm probably is due to Beachy not starting the year in the rotation. With Hudson, Medlen, Minor, Maholm, & Delgado and Teheran in the wings with Beachy back by the all star break, I can’t see Hanson on this team at all. Frankly I would be surprised to see him make another start this year.
UKUGA
August 30th, 2012
9:45 am
Every Hanson start in September ‘12 will be met with the same anticipation of every Derek Lowe start in September ‘11.
Whither Ben Sheets?
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
9:48 am
Whither Ben Sheets?
How about Delgado? Can he perform worse than Hanson?
UKUGA
August 30th, 2012
9:48 am
Dadgum
Maholm is under contract, so he’s ours unless we trade him. But, I doubt he’s traded becuase
JJ is done
Hanson is a huge question mark
Beachy is not ready
That leaves:
Hudson
Medlen
Minor
?
?
Gotta be Maholm and probably Delgado/Teheran until Beachy returns.
UKUGA
August 30th, 2012
9:51 am
Jeff R:
We were saying basically the same thing down the stretch last year while D. Lowe continued to be trotted out there.
Of course, I think the pressure is on management a lot more this year, and I can’t see Frank and Fredi riding Hanson’s tired arm right out of the play-offs.
Dadgum.......
August 30th, 2012
9:52 am
Sheets should be getting a start next weekend which I believe he is due back at the 15 day mark and the Braves will need a 5th starter then.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
9:52 am
Well, at least Hanson has been consistently bad… according to this link, TH has roughly the same Oppo. stat line, no matter the leverage. (low, medium, high)
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=hansoto01&year=2012&t=p#lever
A .275/.348/.487/.835 line….. untradeable.
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
9:54 am
How about Delgado? Can he perform worse than Hanson?
Let’s see if the team brings up either Delgado or Teheran or both in September. Truthfully, it’s hard to believe that the Braves have much confidence in Hanson or Sheets, at the moment, but they might have even less in the two youngsters during a pennant drive. Hard call, either way.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
9:54 am
Maholm stays with the Braves, I believe. I think Wren will look to replace Hanson. Could be Delgado, or Wren can look for a vet pitcher. Teheran will get an invitation to the big camp next spring, but given the season he’s had, he’s likely to need more work at Gwinnett in ‘13.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
9:55 am
2nd Half for Tommy Hanson…
.331/.426/.524/.950 in 7 starts, with 35 IP (5 a start, yuk) and a 6.69 ERA. Geez, Hanson.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
9:55 am
Of course, I think the pressure is on management a lot more this year, and I can’t see Frank and Fredi riding Hanson’s tired arm right out of the play-offs.
I agree, UKUGA.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
9:56 am
How about Delgado? Can he perform worse than Hanson?
I don’t think he would… Delgado never had a stretch this bad (over 14 games). But, we’d have to see if the Braves bring him up first.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
9:57 am
The Pirates blanked the Cards again last night. Good that the Pirates are keeping the Cards off the Braves’ heels.
UKUGA
August 30th, 2012
9:58 am
Despite lamenting the Braves still being 5 games back of WAS, they actually did pick up 3 games on the Nats during WAS’ 5 game losing streak. (Cut the lead from 7 to 4). That’s something.
Gotta get hot at home, which I doubt actually happens. We’ll continue to play okay, but not get red hot, and at best, take 2/3 from the Nats when we see them next month.
Let’s hope we play well enough to get the 1-gamer at home.
CB
August 30th, 2012
9:59 am
I know this may be laughed at but sometimes we don’t give enough credit for mental toughness in pitchers. Hanson in my thoughts lacks it, pitchers like Hudson and Medlen seem to possess it. All pitchers struggle at times but Hanson just seems to lack toughness when it counts.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
9:59 am
it’s hard to believe that the Braves have much confidence in Hanson or Sheets, at the moment, but they might have even less in the two youngsters during a pennant drive. Hard call, either way.
I’d trust Delgado over Hanson right now…. Delgado hasn’t been as bad as Hanson has this year.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
9:59 am
The Braves also have to start hitting again.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
10:00 am
I’d give the ball to Delgado over Hanson in September.
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
10:00 am
but given the season [Teheran has] had, he’s likely to need more work at Gwinnett in ‘13.
Dunno. An offseason to wash the taste of this past year out, and he might be right as rain. If confidence was part of the issue, the young man has just gotta get mad, is all.
Dadgum.......
August 30th, 2012
10:01 am
Maholm will stick with Atlanta or we basically just gave up Vizcaino for Reed Johnson. With Hudson, Medlen, Minor, Maholm, Delgado and Beachy due back, I can’t see us bringing in another veteran starter for 2013 without trading any of the aforementioned even if Teheran isn’t ready.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
10:02 am
I think Wren will look to replace Hanson.
Gre…? LOL He better replace Hanson, if Hanson is in next year’s rotation, we better have gotten some stud LF and CF…
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
10:03 am
I’d give the ball to Delgado over Hanson in September.
Randall walked the park after being sent back to AAA, and that has to make the Braves at least a little leery.
njbraves
August 30th, 2012
10:04 am
Not sure I like the chances of the offense getting hot this weekend against those pitchers Philly is running out there. Hope I’m wrong.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
10:05 am
Hanson still looking tradeable? And not non-tenderable if no trade partner is found? Cuz I’m thinking that Hanson might be pitching himself out of the rotation. If not for Sheets DL stint, he’d already have been out. He’s not building any value for a trade. Can’t see why any GM would give up a “valuable” prospect for this guy. Sorry, not seeing it. Hanson still looks untradeable. He’s been about as bad as JJ was.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
10:06 am
Randall walked the park after being sent back to AAA, and that has to make the Braves at least a little leery.
Hanson isn’t doing the Braves any good. There has to be an alternative. Can Wren clone Medlen?
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
10:07 am
When you watch Hanson, he’s got zero confidence on the mound.
Dadgum.......
August 30th, 2012
10:07 am
We aren’t looking at a lot of 5th starts. Fredi will give those starts to somebody not named Hanson. Definitely Sheets will get 1 or 2 and probably Delgado gets a couple. That’s it. Post season time. Hopefully.
David O'Brien
August 30th, 2012
10:08 am
In case you hadn’t heard, this is what Buster wrote in his blog yesterday re: Kimbrel and Cy Young:
Today, my own unofficial NL Cy Young ballot would be: 1. Johnny Cueto, who is 17-6 after his latest victory. 2. Craig Kimbrel. 3. Aroldis Chapman.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
10:08 am
Not sure I like the chances of the offense getting hot this weekend against those pitchers Philly is running out there. Hope I’m wrong.
That’s a good point. Lee has been a tough luck pitcher this season. He’s due.
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
10:09 am
Maholm will stick with Atlanta or we basically just gave up Vizcaino for Reed Johnson.
Johnson is a FA this year. No guarantee that he’ll be back, even though he looks like a perfect fit for the Braves. Me, I’d overpay the guy to keep him.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
10:10 am
I’d vote to keep Johnson, too. From what I gather, Wren’s been high on him a long time.
Murph
August 30th, 2012
10:10 am
The odds of Hanson having more bad outings are not in his favor. The writing is on the wall for the big goofy redhead… his season is done.
If Fredi keeps running him out there, that’s on Fredi. There are several options in the system who could take Hanson’s starts. Both Delgado and Teheran are better options, despite their struggles in AAA. They at least have the stuff to win, where Hanson does not.
Hell, at this point I’d rather see 3 from Martinez to start followed by 3 from Avilan than another Hanson start. Screw his ego, get to the freakin’ playoffs.
Hillbilly
August 30th, 2012
10:11 am
Randall walked the park after being sent back to AAA, and that has to make the Braves at least a little leery.
Pout factor? I hate using that excuse, but everybody’s doing it with Teheran, so why not?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
10:11 am
We can’t make a 4-man rotation work for Sept? I mean, there’s no point to letting Hanson pitch 4 innings before we take him out. He hasn’t been effective past the 4th lately. Surely one of the AAA starters can do better than this.
.302/.376/.521/.897 (11 starts)
Oppo. batting avg. against Tommy since June 20…. he’s been horrible since May 1, with batters hitting .283/.359/.477/.836 against him (20 starts since May 1)
This is worse than Minor…geez. And he’s not that young to blame it on it being his 1st year in the bigs and call it growing pains. This is Tommy’s 4th season.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:14 am
Dadgum, Ben Sheets isn’t eligible to come off of the DL until Sunday, September 9th.
We need someone to start Tuesday, 9/4 in Atlanta vs. the Rockies – Hanson will start that game.
northbeach Scott
August 30th, 2012
10:14 am
DOB, thx for the Medlen story. It makes it even clear how stupid Fredi G is for not starting him earlier in the season. If the Braves are lucky enough to go to the WC 1 game playoff, they will lose it if Medlen does not pitch. The we can lament that if Fredi had just used Meds as a starter earlier, we could have won the division and avoided theWC showdown.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
10:15 am
Hell, at this point I’d rather see 3 from Martinez to start followed by 3 from Avilan than another Hanson start.
Me too…. and I’m not even a big fan or CMart… surely he can do better than Tommy though
Pout factor? I hate using that excuse, but everybody’s doing it with Teheran, so why not?
That was my first thought as well.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:15 am
I’d give Hanson next Tuesday’s start vs. the Rockies. If he bombs again, Sheets can be activated from the DL next Sunday vs. the Mets.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
10:17 am
DOB, thx for the Medlen story. It makes it even clear how stupid Fredi G is for not starting him earlier in the season. If the Braves are lucky enough to go to the WC 1 game playoff, they will lose it if Medlen does not pitch. The we can lament that if Fredi had just used Meds as a starter earlier, we could have won the division and avoided theWC showdown.
What if the earth is struck by an asteroid before then? Predictions, they don’t always come true, ’cause things can happen.
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
10:18 am
Pout factor?
I’m usually good with that for a game or two after a demotion (I don’t think most folks get how crushing that is; the guy who can take it in stride with no problems is the exception, not the rule). But you got to buck up at some point and stop weeping in your grits. So, I don’t know if one can lay the command problems all at the door of despair.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:19 am
Be real interesting to see Frank Wren’s move this offseason with Hanson if he fails again next week and doesn’t appear again aside from mop up duty in the Braves rotation. He’ll make 3.5-4 million through arbitration in 2013, and maybe he does just decide to sell low on him.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
10:19 am
We need someone to start Tuesday, 9/4 in Atlanta vs. the Rockies –
Martinez? Avilan? Weren’t both of those guys starters in the minors?
I’d give Hanson next Tuesday’s start vs. the Rockies. If he bombs again, Sheets can be activated from the DL next Sunday vs. the Mets.
If??? You must mean when…. all Tommy’s do since May (and 2nd half last year) is bomb…. He needs to go to the ‘pen.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
10:20 am
I’d give Hanson next Tuesday’s start vs. the Rockies. If he bombs again, Sheets can be activated from the DL next Sunday vs. the Mets.
I think Hanson has been given plenty of chances and his trend line isn’t good. I’d pull him in favor of Martinez, if need be. Too much at stake.
Hillbilly
August 30th, 2012
10:21 am
If the Braves were to stay on this rotation throughout September:
-Hanson would pitch the second game against Washington.
-He would also get the first game in Philly.
-Medlen, Hanson, and Minor would get the final series in Pittsburgh.
-Hudson would be in line for the 1 game playoff.
Now counting today, there are 4 off days so Fredi has plenty of opportunities to mix it up if he wants to.
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
10:22 am
The we can lament that if Fredi had just used Meds as a starter earlier, we could have won the division and avoided theWC showdown.
People here can’t even get predictions right from one inning to the next, and someone wants to predict what a pitcher might or might not have done in 15 starts? Spare me.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
10:23 am
He’ll make 3.5-4 million through arbitration in 2013, and maybe he does just decide to sell low on him.
If someone will take him, do it. I don’t care if it’s for a 27 yr. old journeyman OF at AA. Clear that 4mil for us to get an OF or SP. Hanson has no room in the rotation next year, esp. pitching as he has and will be too costly for the ‘pen.
I just can’t see anyone trading for him. Damaged goods. Doubt Frank would non-tender him either cuz he’s “cheap” and “young”, but he needs to go somewhere…
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:23 am
Both Teheran and Delgado will start today’s doubleheader vs. Pawtucket.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
10:26 am
I think Hanson has been given plenty of chances and his trend line isn’t good.
Agree…. no need for more chances. Much like Jurrjens, he has shown what he has and it isn’t good. We have seen enough. It is time to make a change.
Do we happen to have enough off days to make a 4-man rotation possible? If we supposedly don’t have a 5th starter who can do better than Tommy, then just cut him out.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:27 am
If someone will take him, do it. I don’t care if it’s for a 27 yr. old journeyman OF at AA.
He’d be like the Royals best pitcher – I’m not trading him for that.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:30 am
Ed Salcedo made his 42nd error of the season last night. 42 errors in 125 games.
.237/.294/.401 line on the season with a 33/125 BB/K ratio, 15 HR’s, 25 2B’s, 2 3B’s and 22 SB in 35 attempts – 63% success rate.
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
10:30 am
He’d be like the Royals best pitcher – I’m not trading him for that.
I think you can expect many posters here to be in nose-to-spite-face mode, re Hanson. Wren is a little smarter than that, luckily.
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
10:32 am
15 HR’s, 25 2B’s, 2 3B’s
My guess is that those are the numbers that catches the FO’s attention.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
10:33 am
Ed Salcedo made his 42nd error of the season last night. 42 errors in 125 games.
Not impressed with the kid. Does he get bumped up to Mississippi next season? Maybe he’ll improve there. Dunno.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:34 am
Sleeper: A year ago, Andrelton Simmons established his prospect credentials with an excellent season the Carolina League. Fellow Braves shortstop Nick Ahmed didn’t match Simmons’ Carolina League production, but he did show plenty of potential at the plate and on the basepaths to go with solid defense at shortstop. He doesn’t have Simmons’ range, but he does have the chance to develop into a solid big league shortstop.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:38 am
I believe yesterday was LHP Sean Gilmartin’s last start of the season. Solid debut for the kid – 26 starts, 3 CG, 153 IP, 145 hits, 63 ER, 12 HR allowed, 38 BB’s, 106 K’s.
Today will be it for Teheran and Delgado.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
10:38 am
Nope, we don’t have enough off days to go 4-man…. more days of watching Hanson…. Great!
He’d be like the Royals best pitcher – I’m not trading him for that.
Yeah, their best pitcher with an injured shoulder and an 87mph FB with below average control/command. Yes. But I’m sure he won’t be the best. Hochevar will be. Maybe another guy or 2 passes Hanson. You put Hanson in the AL, he would get lit up more than 2 Christmas trees. He doesn’t have it.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
10:39 am
Fellow Braves shortstop Nick Ahmed didn’t match Simmons’ Carolina League production, but he did show plenty of potential at the plate and on the basepaths to go with solid defense at shortstop.
Is Ahmed second baseman material?
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:42 am
My guess is that those are the numbers that catches the FO’s attention.
He’ll be 21 years old through most of next season, and if it’s at Mississippi, then that’s quite young for the level. Still need to see better from him though, but one good season will change a lot of peoples view on him, I’d bet. Just hope it’s next year.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
10:43 am
Is Ahmed second baseman material?
Or maybe 3B?
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:44 am
With five weeks left in the season, general managers are scouting the top starting pitchers who will lead this offseason’s free agent class. That includes the Los Angeles Angels’ Zack Greinke, St. Louis Cardinals’ Kyle Lohse, Washington Nationals’ Edwin Jackson, and Texas Rangers’ Ryan Dempster.
They’re also evaluating starting pitchers who could be available in a trade this winter like the Seattle Mariners’ Jason Vargas or Chicago Cubs’ Matt Garza. And they are studying other team’s farm systems in case they can trade for a top starting pitching prospect like the Atlanta Braves’ Julio Teheran while identifying pitchers in their own farm system who might be ready to make the jump to the big leagues in 2013. – Jim Bowden
I’d bet Frank Wren is going to get a lot of calls over the winter for Teheran. I hope he holds strong and keeps him. Still a ton of potential and still incredibly young.
CrαZy
August 30th, 2012
10:45 am
If someone will take him, do it. I don’t care if it’s for a 27 yr. old journeyman OF at AA.
Dadgum.......
August 30th, 2012
10:45 am
Sheets will definitely pitch next weekend and most likely Delgado pitches Tuesday after the call ups to keep him on schedule. Looking at the schedule there are maybe 3 more starts for a 5th guy possibly 4 depending on the Pirates games. If those are must win then somebody goes on short rest.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:46 am
Is Ahmed second baseman material?
That’s what I’ve read. More likely as a 2nd baseman or a utility type.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:49 am
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/08/offseason-trades-fuel-athletics-success.html
Billy Beane did have a good offseason, I’ll give him that. First in a while though. But, an excellent offseason indeed.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
10:50 am
He’s had some success in the past I think we can get more than that… Maybe a Johnathon Sanchez for Melky or better type deal??
I don’t want a ‘roided up OF!!! That trade was stupid by the Royals, imo…. they got a really bad pitcher for a good OF’er. I don’t even think Hanson could get that much… he’s been very bad for a while now. His last continued period of success came early last year.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
10:51 am
Is Ahmed second baseman material?
That’s what I’ve read. More likely as a 2nd baseman or a utility type.
Uggla has three years remaining on his contract. Figure Ahmed is at Mississippi next season and Gwinnett in ‘14. Might just work out that he moves into the second baseman’s slot in ‘15 or ‘16.
Long way off, though.
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
10:51 am
Still need to see better from him though, but one good season will change a lot of peoples view on him, I’d bet. Just hope it’s next year.
The kid made outs at a spectacular rate and still slugged .400, Efrim. You don’t easily give up on that kind of thump.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
10:57 am
I don’t think the Braves are giving up on Salcedo. They’ve invested a lot of money in him, and, yes, he is still young. Who knows, a light might go off as he climbs the ladder and gains maturity. But right now, given the early hype and bonus he received, I don’t think he’s lived up to the billing.
Shaun
August 30th, 2012
10:57 am
Efrim and Jeff R, don’t know all that much about Ahmed but just eyeballing, he looks like a low-risk, low-ceiling infielder. If he can stick at short, and it seems like people think he can, he may be a major league starter.
cowdogit
August 30th, 2012
10:59 am
Maybe a hundred pitchers went through the braves system during Mazzone’s era, I don’t think we would talking about Smoltz, Glavine and Maddox if not for Mazzone. The fans that don’t understand how important it is to devlope young pitchers should start watching the golf channel.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
11:01 am
The kid made outs at a spectacular rate and still slugged .400, Efrim. You don’t easily give up on that kind of thump.
Good point. .164 ISO. I think he’ll hit in the majors – just might not be at 3B and in in a corner outfield spot instead.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 30th, 2012
11:05 am
Is Ahmed second baseman material?
****************
Is Uggla second baseman material?
Apparently not….
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
11:05 am
I always compare Salcedo to Wilmer Flores, Jefrey Marte of the Mets system, Xander Boegarts of the Red Sox system and Cheslor Cuthbert of the Royals.
No idea why, just do. Latin minor league SS/3rd base prospects perhaps.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
11:06 am
Maybe a hundred pitchers went through the braves system during Mazzone’s era, I don’t think we would talking about Smoltz, Glavine and Maddox if not for Mazzone.
Let’s not forget that Smoltz was out of the Tigers’ farm system and Maddux was already a Cubs’ starter when the Braves signed him to a deal. Glavine was the only bona fide Braves’ farm hand of the three.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
11:06 am
I think he’ll hit in the majors – just might not be at 3B and in in a corner outfield spot instead.
Might have to be DH if he can’t improve that fielding.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
11:07 am
Phillies are 4-10 vs.the Mets and 3-9 vs. the Braves in 2012.
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:07 am
Good morning all
Yup, This is the real George, thie one who does not like FREDI very much.
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
11:07 am
Looks like Isaac is at the beginning stages on moving in, we’re beginning to have a few wind gusts and looks like the clouds are just on the horizon. Last estimates I’ve heard, as much as 5 to 7 inches of rain… that’s a lot of water specially as dry as it’s been all summer long.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
11:08 am
Well, at least we’re off of the Hanson talk…. that’s a good thing
Let’s not forget that Smoltz was out of the Tigers’ farm system and Maddux was already a Cubs’ starter when the Braves signed him to a deal. Glavine was the only bona fide Braves’ farm hand of the three.
Facts are unnecessary… Mazzone was so awesome and McDowell is garbage
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 30th, 2012
11:09 am
Perhaps I’ll be proven wrong and hopefully so, but the time has come to take a stand….
We will not win the division nor a “wildcard” spot this year.
The hellishly inconsistent lumber will be the usual number one reason.
Cue the tapes from the west coast swing just past….
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:12 am
GOOD GRIEF. Can this team only win with HUDDY or MEDLEN? BELIEVE IN THE MEDS. There is not much else to believe in with this team. When CHIPPER is gone so am I.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
11:14 am
Is this the old phil or a new phil?
We will not win the division nor a “wildcard” spot this year.
The stand I’m taking is that the Braves make it to the post season.
So, take that, old or new phil!
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
11:14 am
think he’ll hit in the majors – just might not be at 3B and in in a corner outfield spot instead.
If Marcus Giles could be taught to play 2B, Salcedo can be taught to play 3B. Seriously, you cannot imagine how bad a glove Giles once was, in the minors.
Fielding is about technique, and technique is about reps. Salcedo certainly has the athleticism, but I don’t believe he had the amateur competition to develop proper IF instincts. That means he has to learn a lot of stuff, and then turn that knowledge into instinctive behavior. That takes a while.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
11:16 am
George_George… George, did someone swipe your name, hence, “George_George?” Or were you just looking for a new fall outfit?
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:16 am
On post-game qoutes
FREDI JUST RESIGN! We are tired of your sad a** excuses.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
11:18 am
FREDI JUST RESIGN!
You are one single-minded cuss, Jorge. Or is it “Jorge_Jorge?”
Lew
August 30th, 2012
11:19 am
Things determined in oivernight posts -
1. Hanson doesn’t work hard.
2. Hanson should be done.
3. Mazzone won 14 division titles
4. “In most of Hanson’s wins, Braves had to score more runs than he gave up.”
5. Cwdog(sh)it and Ward are total freaking idiots.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
11:22 am
5. Cwdog(sh)it and Ward are total freaking idiots
Nah. Those two? Enlightened beyond their years.
CB
August 30th, 2012
11:22 am
Lew, did you get your registration problems straightened out?
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
11:23 am
“In most of Hanson’s wins, Braves had to score more runs than he gave up.”
Lew, I think I cleared that one up hopefully.
Trader Jack
August 30th, 2012
11:23 am
Talk about infield conversions, the Phils had Utley fielding grounders at 3B yesterday. Word is they would like to move him there and have Galvis handle 2B
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:24 am
Coffee good this morning, BRAVES not so good.
Lew
August 30th, 2012
11:24 am
CB – I quit trying – if I didn’t manage to have them accept it in five tries, I’m figuring I’ll just wait until DOB gets fed up with everyone complaining and beats the nerds with his notebook to fix the system – which they may actually be trying to do anyway..
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:25 am
Good to see you Lew.
Lew
August 30th, 2012
11:27 am
Transplant – If he couldn’t see the abject stupidity inherent in that statement, I’m not sure it is clear uppable.
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:27 am
CHIPPER the last on the field link to the great years.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
11:29 am
CHIPPER the last on the field link to the great years.
And when Chipper goes, the Braves will make new memories.
CB
August 30th, 2012
11:29 am
Lew, blog will probably go bonkers if you are not here.
Lew
August 30th, 2012
11:30 am
George – And it’s good that I can see. Went to the Eye Doctor on Tuesday after a surgical procedure had gone wrong and my vision in the right eye was LESS than 20-800 (no typo). Today it was 20-250. I can actually see shapes now.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
11:31 am
I haven’t tried to register yet. I understand that when a new blog is posted, we’re denied access until we register?
Lew
August 30th, 2012
11:31 am
CB – Well, if so, they can advocate fixing the system.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 30th, 2012
11:32 am
Jeff R – It’s lovable ole old phil….I was forced to choose a new name upon registering yesterday, and DOB chose to insult me by lumping me in, subtly, with angry vitriol spewers that run amuck here from time to time.
It will eventually be my new name, so I decided to go ahead with it now.
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:33 am
Hey Lew
I hope there will be great improvement, you heed good eyesight for what you do. Do they say there will be improvement?
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
11:33 am
Lew, sorry to read that. Hope your sight keeps improving.
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:33 am
Hey Lew
I hope there will be great improvement, you heed good eyesight for what you do. Do they say there will be improvement?
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:33 am
sorry douple post
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
11:35 am
vitriol spewer (phil). Geez. I wonder if my handle will stand the test? Maybe I can be Ward, Jr.?
On second thought…
Lew
August 30th, 2012
11:37 am
Thanks y’all – It’s more of a pain dealing with it than an obstruction. Just started rocking the eye patch look – still have 20-20 in the left eye and can drive, paint and do anything I need doing.
But it looks like the best case scenario is improvement (with many more treatments) to 20-50 at best. It’s only been that good for a matter of weeks over the past nine years. This is nothing new, just more of thesame and a couple of bad reactions to the current medication thhey use for the injections.
CB
August 30th, 2012
11:39 am
Jeff R, might want to register . I thought about registering about 15 times under different regular bloggers names but I’m not as knowledgeable as scoots, as funny as Hillbilly or Tater,I don’t hug prospects like Efrim and I am not a genius like Shaun.
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
11:41 am
CB, just got to keep pluggin away until you find your niche.
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
11:42 am
I thought about registering about 15 times under different regular bloggers names
“A rose, by any other name…”, CB.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
11:43 am
CB: There’s room for you to join the Greinke train!
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:43 am
Am I right, CHIPPER and BRIAN are the only players left from our last 1st place finish 2005?
ChattTownBrian
August 30th, 2012
11:44 am
Efrim, can we even afford to throw Hanson out there for even one more start? Race it so tight all around. The guy is beyond terrible. He has a hitter or three where he looks in control, but then just loses it quick after.
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
11:44 am
CB: There’s room for you to join the Greinke train!
But let me warn you, that’s a cold, dark, lonely road.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
11:45 am
CB… I’ll try shortly. If I’m back on as “Glenhilda” or something, I’ll let everyone know.
CB
August 30th, 2012
11:45 am
Hey, I couldn’t even be just CB. It has be at least 3 characters so new name is CB- Blind Squirrel.
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
11:46 am
But let me warn you, that’s a cold, dark, lonely road.
…where even the righteous fear to tread, LOL.
CB
August 30th, 2012
11:46 am
TOBF, has hell frozen over yet?
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
11:47 am
Where are you guys seeing this registration deal? I haven’t had any sweat posting comments on the last two or three blogs, at all.
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
11:49 am
but then just loses it quick after.
I thinnk a lot of that has to do with the fact he knows he’s lost velocity, so to compensate he tries to overthrow a lot of pitches. This usually only results in 1 or 2 things, 1. errand throws and 2. flat pitches left high in the zone. I really think if he could learn to use his legs more, he’d see better results. He’s too much of a whip arm.
CB
August 30th, 2012
11:49 am
scoots,home page in right corner. We will need it soon supposedly.
ChattTownBrian
August 30th, 2012
11:50 am
Get well Lew.
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:50 am
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
11:47 am
They all where talking about it after the blog came back up yesterday after being down for a while.
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
11:51 am
CB- Blind Squirrel
yes, but even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
11:51 am
Efrim, can we even afford to throw Hanson out there for even one more start? Race it so tight all around. The guy is beyond terrible.
Agree… one start from Hanson isn’t needed… he’s burned all his chances. Get him out the rotation, please.
But let me warn you, that’s a cold, dark, lonely road.
Indeed… it’s only 2 of us at the moment, I believe.
TOBF, has hell frozen over yet?
It’s about to…. that new blog format will be hell frozen over.
We’ll see
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
11:52 am
It’s even been easier to find one on here lately… happy hunting.
Hillbilly
August 30th, 2012
11:52 am
Looks like Isaac is at the beginning stages on moving in, we’re beginning to have a few wind gusts and looks like the clouds are just on the horizon. Last estimates I’ve heard, as much as 5 to 7 inches of rain… that’s a lot of water specially as dry as it’s been all summer long.
We’re barely getting started with it and have already had two power outages at the refinery this morning. If I can make it til 5:00 this phone is shutting down and I’m going nomad for a few days.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
11:53 am
It’s not needed on this blog yet, and some others, but quite a few of the news-oriented stories (which allow comments) have migrated to that new format….
never really liked it, esp. when I used WSB.com’s site often…. but it’s not about the format, but rather the people. I can tolerate it.
CB
August 30th, 2012
11:53 am
AT, my name is definitely me.
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:53 am
Shout out to Lew
About a week ago your son was haveing a cancer check up. I did not see your post on the results, hope that went well.
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
11:56 am
Hillbilly, keep the flat bottom handy.
MVPrado14
August 30th, 2012
12:02 pm
Well, 31 games to go.
Didn’t the 2011 Braves go 10-21 in their last 31?
Not expecting this year’s team to go at a .320 clip, but don’t see them going too much over .500 in these last 31 either. Maybe 16 or 17 wins. Maybe.
Hillbilly
August 30th, 2012
12:03 pm
Jeff R, might want to register . I thought about registering about 15 times under different regular bloggers names but I’m not as knowledgeable as scoots, as funny as Hillbilly or Tater,I don’t hug prospects like Efrim and I am not a genius like Shaun.
Veteran presence, CB. You are our David Ross, and don’t underestimate the importance of that.
An army without leaders is like a foot without a big toe. You are our Big Toe, Seargent Hulka.
ACE
August 30th, 2012
12:09 pm
Fredi hopes uggla has a good off season and is ready for 2013 and will play better under another manager.
King of Carrot Flowers
August 30th, 2012
12:10 pm
For whatever reason, be it genetic or poor conditioning, Hanson just looks like a horrible athlete right now. He can’t help himself with the glove. He can’t do anything productive with a bat in his hands. He can’t hold any base runner who has more speed than McCann. Those are major handicaps to overcome for a pitcher who is far from dominant at this stage in his career.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
12:11 pm
I had to register under JeffR R. Maybe I was alread in the system under Jeff R, somehow.
CB
August 30th, 2012
12:19 pm
Hillbilly, I have been called a lot of things but never a Big Toe. Usually a little higher up. LOL
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
12:27 pm
Didn’t the 2011 Braves go 10-21 in their last 31?
Not expecting this year’s team to go at a .320 clip, but don’t see them going too much over .500 in these last 31 either. Maybe 16 or 17 wins. Maybe.
17 wins gives the Braves a record of 91-71, if my totin’ is correct.
I’m guessing they finish more in the 93-94 range, given their schedule.
MVPrado14
August 30th, 2012
12:31 pm
“I’m guessing they finish more in the 93-94 range, given their schedule.”
Gotta factor in the way they are playing. No reason to think they are going to step it up any more than they did in SD, especially with the inconsistent offense.
Their playoff hopes will probably come down to that final series in Pittsburgh
MFin04
August 30th, 2012
12:31 pm
Halladay, Lee, Hamels vs a slumping Braves team. Not too excited about that. This team is going to have to wake up quick or they’re going to find themselves missing out on the playoffs again. Had a great shot to gain on the Nationals but couldn’t beat below average lefties from the Padres.
Lew
August 30th, 2012
12:35 pm
George – All clear for my son – Thankfully, it was just inflammation and bruising from being onhis foot too much. Thanks for asking.
Hillbilly
August 30th, 2012
12:37 pm
Hillbilly, I have been called a lot of things but never a Big Toe. Usually a little higher up. LOL
Ha! I won’t go there. I just had to throw that little movie reference in there for any fans of Stripes.
Lew
August 30th, 2012
12:39 pm
Y’all do realize that the Padres had won seven straight before the Braves even came to town? The Pads are more hot right now than the Braves are cold.
MFin04
August 30th, 2012
12:46 pm
“Y’all do realize that the Padres had won seven straight before the Braves even came to town?”
One is a playoff team and one isn’t. Gotta win games. You can claim all these other teams are hot or cold or have bad records on the season, doesn’t matter. Gotta win games, gotta win series. The Mets, Marlins and Phillies have sucked all year too, doesn’t mean they can’t start whipping up on us again. Gotta stop making excuses and win games.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
12:47 pm
Halladay, Lee, Hamels vs a slumping Braves team.
Tough series with the Phils coming, no doubt. But it’s the Braves’ hitting that’s been problematic. The pitching, minus Hanson, has been pretty consistently good.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
12:51 pm
Had the Braves beaten the Padres last night, they’d have had a 5-5 road trip. Instead, they had a 4-6 trip. Not much difference.
The Nats and the Giants aren’t pushovers. The Braves lost the Nats series and split the Giants series.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
12:52 pm
Y’all do realize that the Padres had won seven straight before the Braves even came to town? The Pads are more hot right now than the Braves are cold.
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
#padres are nl-west-best 43-30 since june 9. & now they have new owners, who tell us zip.
Lew
August 30th, 2012
12:52 pm
Yeah, pointing out facts is making excuses? And me doing this hurts the Braves how, exactly?
And as for the Phillies – have you seen how they’re playing right now? Didn’t they just sweep the Nats?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
12:56 pm
Just a note: If you are a blog regular and can’t get your name in the system, it’s because I registered it. If you want it back, it requires a small fee.
Just say that Hanson is virtually untradeable this offseason, agree that Juan shouldn’t start at 3B next year, think that Span would be a bad target for the Braves, and agree that we can and should sign Greinke at 15mil a year.
Lew
August 30th, 2012
12:56 pm
But yeah, I’m really sorry I made excuses and didn’t win those games. Guess I might be traded or non tendered any day now.
Lew
August 30th, 2012
12:56 pm
But yeah, I’m really sorry I made excuses and didn’t win those games. Guess I might be traded or non tendered any day now.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
1:00 pm
Their playoff hopes will probably come down to that final series in Pittsburgh
Can’t say. Too many moving parts.
MFin04
August 30th, 2012
1:02 pm
The Braves make the same excuses after losses too, it isn’t just you.
But some teams make excuses others just win the division. I’d rather be the team that wins the division. Not only are the Nationals winning the division, they’re top 5 in the majors in players games lost due to injuries. No excuses there, just winning games.
VaBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
1:03 pm
Well looks like the Braves are gonna squander this opportunity. Nationals have been playing poorly and we still can’t gain ground. Losing a series to the Padre’s is a killer. Yet still our next 10 games are against teams under 500. can they take advantage of this, doesn’t look like it.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
1:05 pm
Not only are the Nationals winning the division, they’re top 5 in the majors in players games lost due to injuries. No excuses there, just winning games.
The Nats also just ended a five-game losing skid. The Cards start a series with the Nats tonight at DC. The Cards are a better club than the Fish (who the Nats just finished with).
We’ll see what the Nats do in the Cards’ series.
Bay Area Steve
August 30th, 2012
1:05 pm
“If you want it back, it requires a small fee.”
No deal. How’s this: if you use the words ‘Hanson’ and/or ‘tradeable’ one more time, I climb out of your monitor and thump your skull for ya? I mean, if you’re constantly going to say more than those around you, at least be better at it.
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
1:07 pm
No excuses [in Washington], just winning games.
Oh, man, you have obviously never listened to the Nats’ announcing team, LOL.
VaBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
1:08 pm
I think with Hanson having 3 seasons on control left that he has solid trade value, but of course its getting worse and worse.
MFin04
August 30th, 2012
1:15 pm
Braves need to start playing better. Feels an awful lot like last year and playing down to the level of competition. 4 runs scored in 3 games and went 1-2, they’re fortunate to have won a game in that series.
Lew
August 30th, 2012
1:17 pm
Well, of course no one makes excuses (real or perceived) about winning teams – they won.
Bat Masterson
August 30th, 2012
1:29 pm
Not only are the Nationals winning the division, they’re top 5 in the majors in players games lost due to injuries. No excuses there, just winning games. _ MFin04
I seem to recall what some saw as whining from Davey, in the last few days, about it being hard on them due to some guys being out with injuries.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
1:35 pm
Sara (CA)
I like looking at WAR as a tool… but i’m losing faith in it. It bothers me that defense seems to have such a huge impact and yet seems to be so poorly measured. Coming from someone who watches Buster Posey daily, I find it ridiculous that he has negative defensive metrics… How do you account for these things when looking at WAR?
Klaw (1:21 PM)
For catchers, I prefer to back out the defensive metrics entirely – first basemen too. Just set their defense to zero and re-rank. And yes, it’s a valid criticism of WAR, or at least of overreliance on it.
Bat Masterson
August 30th, 2012
1:35 pm
Some people have a tendency to define injury excuse as cop out at times.
Tomahawkin screams bloody murder (in almost unreadable english) about how sick he is of hearing the
“injury excuse” from the Braves and then declared the season over when Simmons was injured.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
1:36 pm
Jason (Nashville, TN)
Assuming the Braves make Medlen part of the rotation next year, do you think he can post a sub-3 era and a 6+ K/9 rate over a full season?
Klaw (1:26 PM)
I’ll say ERA between 3 and 3.50.
But he just called him a middle of the rotation starter in last week’s chat…..
Of course, looking at ERA and then just using that to form an opinion about what his projection is, is wrong, imo.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
1:37 pm
Ty (Silver Spring, MD)
Keith,Thoughts on Medlen? Is his control good enough to make him a #2? Instinct tells me you would have him as a back of the rotation kind of guy pre-TJ.
Klaw (1:29 PM)
He’s shown better offspeed stuff and command post surgery, so he can be an above league-average starter now, whereas yes, I thought he was a back-end starter or even a quality reliever before that.
MFin04
August 30th, 2012
1:37 pm
Spiking your helmet should be an automatic ejection, I don’t understand why guys think they can get away with throwing helmets or bats. Just ridiculous. Grow up or face the consequences, but any throwing of equipment should get you tossed.
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
1:45 pm
He’s shown better offspeed stuff and command post surgery
And here I would agree: Medlen’s breaking ball has been totally out of mind from what I remember him showing earlier in his career. It’s been a solid, maybe even better, pitch for him.
Bat Masterson
August 30th, 2012
1:48 pm
Spiking your helmet should be an automatic ejection, I don’t understand why guys think they can get away with throwing helmets or bats.
Yes indeed, we can’t have some of most competitive people in the world showing any frustration or anger. But, then again, how would we know whether or not they felt an adequate since of urgency. Conundrum
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
1:50 pm
But, then again, how would we know whether or not they felt an adequate since of urgency.
Oh, that’s so totally easy. oh-fer? No urgency. Give up four runs? No urgency. Eezy-peezy.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
1:56 pm
And here I would agree:
Not on the #2 starter ceiling, I imagine?
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
1:57 pm
Isn’t it about time we had some posts calling some urgency, though? Plus, a helping of grit/heart/guts/scrappiness? And some run-manufacturing, maybe a bunt or three?
Or, at the least, a call for Constanza to be inserted into the lineup, which basically takes care of all three of the above?
Bat Masterson
August 30th, 2012
1:58 pm
Thanks, scoots. I have to admit I’ve always been somewhat confused by all that.
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
2:00 pm
Not on the #2 starter ceiling, I imagine?
Probably not, but it’s hard to argue with the kid’s results in a small sample. Maybe I’ll hold off on characterizing his ceiling until he actually reaches it, LOL. Then, I can’t be wrong about it, can I?
abeeeewright
August 30th, 2012
2:00 pm
Braves have played the “new look” Dodgers (1-2), the East-leading Nats on the road (1-2), the West leading Giants on the road (2-2), and the hottest team in the NL West Padres at home (1-2) to have a disappointing 5-8 record that covers their last west-coast road trip.
They have perhaps the easiest schedule of any major league club from now through early October.
If they cannot secure a better than .500 record over that schedule, they do not deserve to go to the post-season. (Honestly, I would never predict a .750 winning percentage, but the schedule says it could happen.)
Right now, Hudson, Medlen, Maholm, and Minor are turning in quality starts. All the sturm-und-drang over Hanson is pretty unimportant. With days off and short rest, Braves could probably use a 4 man rotation through to the end of the season.
There’s absolutely no reason they can’t plug in a September call up to lengthen the rotation. Get one of those AA guys that no one’s heard of and let him ‘Kyle-Davies’ the opposition for a start.
nolie
August 30th, 2012
2:02 pm
One is a playoff team and one isn’t. Gotta win games…MK
the best team in baseball loses 65 games and since they are the best team, EVERY ONE of them is by definition against a worse team. it is the essence of baseball that so many here can not seem to grasp
nolie
August 30th, 2012
2:06 pm
and it is gonna be the same way every year that you follow baseball….
CaptainMudd
August 30th, 2012
2:14 pm
Of course the eye’s of their new ownership were cast heavily this past series; the Padres, regardless, had he fight and determination to further pride themselves with a rather impressive win streak. I am sure–even if the Braves had accomplished series victory, the O’Malley’s would have still been impressed. There’s potential in San Diego…and, it appears this ownership family has come forth with specific plans of support. In short, they will handle this asset intrepidly into the future. Their players are responding….their is a vision.
On the other hand, and disappointingly, our Braves don’t seem to share likewise. Much of our inconsistency and strife this season can be attributed to our ‘long-distance’ relationship with the Liberty Group.
Most of these guys…are in fact quite excellent MLB players….we have talent on the roster; however, at times I feel as though the core of our team [Braves] misses the absence of Mr. Cox more than we realize. The routine, the personal interaction and verbal cues, if you will. They do not appear to have a similar mind-set towards the game itself as compared to their recent past unde Bobby. I truly get the impression he meant more to them emotionally than words can describe.
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
2:14 pm
and it is gonna be the same way every year that you follow baseball….
Sic ‘em, nolie.
chipontheroad
August 30th, 2012
2:19 pm
Tuff west coast swing Bravos endure and abide and roll on
rest up and get clickin
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
2:20 pm
Post just got eaten…
Anyway, the Braves were 27-10 from July 5th through August 17th. .730 baseball for damn near a quarter of the season.
They then went 4-8 in their last 12 games. Would it of been nice if they went 6-6 in that stretch? Sure. But let’s not get crazy about it. It’s baseball and things happen.
Heck, Jason Heyward is 0 for his last 11. Anything can happen.
MFin04
August 30th, 2012
2:22 pm
I have no problem with guys showing emotion, but throwing equipment or breaking bats over your knee is inappropriate and a childish way of venting anger.
Bat Masterson
August 30th, 2012
2:22 pm
Don’t dispare, Biff will be there soon and all will be well.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
2:23 pm
James (WV)
Do you think the Pirates would be wise to trade Hanrahan this offseason? Seems like it would be a good sell high candidate…esp with his salary probably jumping to around 7 mil…NH seems to like to build the bullpen on the fly and has done a pretty good job…What kind of return is fair for Joel?
Klaw (2:20 PM)
I’d absolutely try to move him, since closer performance is so unpredictable anyway. One solid prospect, a potential everyday guy or mid-rotation starter, would be fair.
To a lesser extent, this is what I mean about EOF. He’s a good reliever – but he’s not an elite reliever and while we have money available, let’s at least explore the option of selling high on a LH reliever whose entering the last year of arb. at a projected 3.5 million.
Plus, you can’t even get draft picks for middle relievers any longer – sell high on EOF.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
2:24 pm
I really wish Shin-Soo Choo was right handed……like badly.
CaptainMudd
August 30th, 2012
2:24 pm
I know I should proof-read my posts prior to hitting the ’submit.’ I never do….just fire it off in hast; well I am getting to be a retired, older lazy guy on an easy-chair. All I seem to do is handle calls to and clean the house….a still learning baseball fan/janitorial command center tech.
MFin04
August 30th, 2012
2:25 pm
Efrim – How many years until we deal Kimbrel?
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
2:25 pm
And I really want to see the A’s make the one gamer. Great story, and it’s great to see Beane show he still has it as long as he’s paying attention.
He nailed near every single offseason move. Just a great winter for a GM that needed to show that he could still make smart baseball decisions.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
2:26 pm
How many years until we deal Kimbrel?
I’d hold onto him. Elite doesn’t even begin to describe that kid.
MFin04
August 30th, 2012
2:31 pm
Efrim – If Kimbrel is indeed the best closer in the game, they can’t afford to hang on to him. If there is one thing I’ve learned from the blog is that the Braves don’t pay guys what they are worth. Kimbrel could be getting 10-15 million a year soon and the Braves aren’t going to spend that much on a closer. They can’t afford that for their best position player.
Jimmy
August 30th, 2012
2:32 pm
Kimbrel for Greinke, straight up.
Zack is an elite starter….right?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
2:33 pm
I’d hold onto him. Elite doesn’t even begin to describe that kid.
As would I…. unless for some strange reason we get another Kimbrel in our farm system…. even then, it’d be pretty sick to have 2 shutdown closer-type pitchers. Don’t let this kid get to FA… lock him up after ARB1 for 4 years at some reasonable rate.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
2:34 pm
Kimbrel could be getting 10-15 million a year soon and the Braves aren’t going to spend that much on a closer.
They have control of Craig through 2016. They absolutely can afford him. It’s nothing to worry about right now