3:14 pm August 29, 2012, by David O'Brien
August 30th, 20124:36 pm
TOBF @4:20 – Looks like a pretty good rotation….err…minus Greinke, of course. He would be overrated and overpaid.
August 30th, 20124:37 pm
WOO HOO! Top of the page AGAIN! I’m on a roll!
August 30th, 20124:43 pm
Looks like a pretty good rotation….err…minus Greinke, of course.
If Minor and Medlen continue to pitch well down the stretch, I have a bad feeling that Wren will forgo a stud SP, of any kind.
That will be Medlen’s fault, of course.
August 30th, 20124:44 pm
I’ve got a different take on EOF – I think they need to retain him.
He has had four years with Atlanta and has been pretty damned good in all four. During his tenure, the Braves’ bullpen has overall been very good, but the past two years in particular, the Braves have put up absurd numbers with a lead after the sixth and EOF and Kimbrel (Venters in his first two but not so much this year) have been priomary reasons for this.
Now it’s widely accepted that the Braves don’t have the money to be paying $20 mil a year salaries for pitchers who are going to go 8 and 9 IP every time out so it’s pretty well essential they have a lock down back end of the pen that takes up the slack, guarantees shut down innings and cost a hell of a lot less.
Now EOF is making a bit less than $2.5 mil this year and I have yet to hear anyone claim he’s being overpaid and – as Efrim says – he could well get an arbitration raise of about a mil to $3.5 mil, though they also could just as easily work a deal for $3 mil or so (or do a two year $6 mil contract). That would be an extra $500,000 ( to a possible million) extra in a budget year where they actually have a few bucks.
Now I think if you weigh what you might possibly get in return on a trade of EOF- even selling high, whatever that might be – I think you’d find that an extra half to 1 mil in salary would be much better spent keeping the back end of the pen dominant another year (and hopefully, too).
EOF has been steady as can be since he became a Brave and there is absolutely no indication this should change the next couple years and certainly not next year.
August 30th, 20124:45 pm
Say for arguments sake, he wasn’t overpaid…. still a good #2?… besides, with the beat I had in my head for that little rhyme, the name Shields doesn’t quite work… need a 2 syllable name.
August 30th, 20124:47 pm
I have a bad feeling that Wren will forgo a stud SP, of any kind.
So, should we root for one of those 2 to “struggle”? If so, who? It’d suck to see Minor come so far and then struggle, and Medlen is the next Cy Young,so….
Then, if our pitching struggles and our offense saves us, I could see FW not getting that thumper in LF (like Willingham). That’d be sad.
August 30th, 20124:50 pm
Lew: What if Avilan and Venters can lock down our LHP needs and EOF helps get us a LF/CF? That’d be nice too…. Avilan hasn’t been too shabby, esp. against lefties.
August 30th, 20124:52 pm
How’s the weather. Do you still have power?
Yeah, it’s not too bad. Just a steady rain and some decent wind gusts. Had a tree top laying in my driveway at lunch so I spent my entire lunch break with a chainsaw in my hands. Other than that it’s just been a blink here and there.
August 30th, 20124:54 pm
Only Braves – If you have to count on EOF’s inclusion in a deal to get an outfielder, the Braves are in some seriously deep doo doo.
And stop for a minute and think – what does the bullpen look like with both Avilan AND EOF both in it? Besides, you can leave Avilan in there for multiple innings and maintain the end of the pen and keep them all fresh and rested.
If you get rid of EOF, you’d still have to replace him OR find someone to replace Avilan when you move him up.
Keep EOF – we have money, we have trade bait without him. He should not be essential to any deal.
Lew, most teams put up pretty absurd winning percentages when leading after 6.
I think they pretty much have to keep Eric O’Flaherty. I don’t think they would get all that much return in a trade and of course they can’t just non-tender a reliever that’s been as good as he has and let him go for nothing.
The time to let him go is when he hits free agency and could command a pretty big raise. No reason for a team like the Braves to pay a reliever more than a few million dollars a year unless he’s someone like Rivera in his heyday, Kimbrel or Chapman.
August 30th, 20124:58 pm
If you have to count on EOF’s inclusion in a deal to get an outfielder, the Braves are in some seriously deep doo doo.
Depends on the outfielder. If you can get a first-division outfielder for EOF and not much else, that’s a no-brainer. I’m taking the everyday, above-average outfielder over almost any reliever except Kimbrel.
vitriol spewer (phil)
Lew – Agree on EOF….keep him.
August 30th, 20125:01 pm
I can’t decide how I feel on this subject. On the one hand, EOF has CERTAINLY earned the raise he’s sure to get next season, and has proven to be a reliable guy at the back of a bullpen. On the other hand, the Braves pitching magicians seem to be able to pull a guy off the street and have him contribute good numbers from the bullpen. Hell, Chad Durbin was CUT in Spring Training this year before the Braves picked him up. Even EOF himself was a waiver claim by the Braves, turning roster fodder into a guy who’s set to make upwards of $3 million next year.
So I guess the Braves will have to evaluate what they have, what they need, and what they can get for him before making any decision. If there is a team willing to give up a legitimate piece for EOF, and the Braves know of some 4-fingered sidearm pitcher in the Independent League that they can sign for grocery money, then I guess they should trade him. My view is basically to simply trust the organizations proven ability to evaluate pitching.
August 30th, 20125:03 pm
I guarantee that every team has people on their sites that say the same things about their team that the crazies here say about the Braves, year after year whining about the same things as if it is that one individual team rather than it is the way the game works. And most of them will never, ever get it.
August 30th, 20125:04 pm
I see this too. I think it’s a bad idea, but I do believe that if the opportunity presents itself, Wren will deal for a frontline starter.
But the Maholm trade and progression of Medlen and Minor has made it so they don’t have to sell low on a guy like Teheran to complete such a deal. Which is a good thing overall, imo.
August 30th, 20125:05 pm
I too wonder what to do about EOF.
I think I would shop him but only trade him if a very good deal got worked out
August 30th, 20125:07 pm
It won’t keep me up at night if they decide to keep O’Flaherty. But I’d rather not invest multi years in anything less than elite relievers and I don’t believe Eric is that. Solid LH reliever and a great asset to have when facing teams with middle of the order LH bats. But I’d rather have someone else coming in vs. RH.
Not to mention, the Braves will absolutely need a high leverage RH in the pen for 2013 – I don’t see that guy right now, unless of course they decide to fast tract J.R. Graham to the bigs as a two pitch reliever, which I’d like to avoid and keep him in the minors working on a changeup.
I agree with Lew, we need EOF…he’s the perfect compliment to Kimbrel. At this point, we don’t know if Venters can get it all the way back, but I sure hope he does.
August 30th, 20125:10 pm
I won’t be surprised if we do not get a front line starter, in fact I expect us not to.
I think they will look for outfield help, though it is pretty amazing that our current outfield consists of the best defensive RF and CF players and the second best LF player and they are all hitting well too.
It is a shame that Bourn is likely to get so much money that we can not afford him.
August 30th, 20125:13 pm
Shaun – This year, I believe they’re something like 54-1 leading after six. That is about as absurd as you can get.
But yeah, EOF is a big return for a small monetary outlay – at least for this year and I’d be willing to believe they could lock him up for two which would take him to his Free Agency year.
August 30th, 20125:15 pm
EFrim – I hear you about not locking up all but elite relievers, but you also won’t be paying anywhere close to elite reliever rates, either.
August 30th, 20125:18 pm
Lew, EOF is a free agent after next season. They should try to sign him to a one-year deal and avoid arbitration. But I’m not sure if he would sign beyond that because he could be due for a pretty big raise after next season, once he hits free agency.
But next year I don’t think there is any doubt they will keep him. And I doubt they’ll get a piece they need for a reliever one year from free agency, so I don’t think a trade is likely.
August 30th, 20125:19 pm
Efrim, I have a question. You seem to get down on certain prospects( Minor who looks like he will be a very solid starter going forward) and now I see you doing the same thing with Todd Cunningham(who seems to have a pretty solid all around game at AA). What makes you think Cunningham doesn’t have a chance of being anything more than organizational minor league player. He seems to be a potential MLB player to me.
August 30th, 20125:23 pm
Anyone know where we can find team stats when leading after 6 innings. My guess is that if you look at all teams, they all have remarkable records when leading after 6 innings. I’m guessing teams when at least 85 percent of the time when leading after 6, maybe even more than that.
Train Wreck Bystander
August 30th, 20125:26 pm
This week’s TV coverage maps are out for the Fox Saturday game:
Looks like most of the country will be seeing Cards-Nats.
August 30th, 20125:28 pm
I am sure they do win most of those games Shaun, but with the fuss made about the Braves 55-1, I am also pretty sure that it is well above normal
ccrider, I’m not sure how Efrim is going to answer but my two cents is that Cunningham has show little power and his BB/SO doesn’t really stand out. The Braves have been playing him fairly often in rightfield, so he needs to hit quite a bit if he’s a corneroutfielder instead of a centerfielder. The fact that the Braves have played him some games in right concerns me. If they think he has a legit shot to be an big league centerfielder, why bother? They should probably throw him in center pretty much every single game.
August 30th, 20125:31 pm
I have heard from fans who go to a lot of games that Cunningham seems pretty marginal in center field defensive ability.
August 30th, 20125:33 pm
Keep O’Flaherty! Trade Venters for Bourjos. Addresses needs of both teams and the salaries match up prefectly.
August 30th, 20125:34 pm
SNEAKY PETE, I don’t know. Just because a fuss is made, doesn’t mean it’s well above normal.
I’ll grant you its above normal. I think I remember seeing the Braves rank pretty high compared to other teams in record when leading after 6 innings. But I suspect that most teams have no more than a few losses.
If only Bourjos could hit
August 30th, 20125:37 pm
I remember during one of Andruw’s big years folks tended to point out the Braves’ remarkable record when both Chipper and Andruw homer. Well, what decent-or-better team is going to lose a lot of games when they get two homers from the middle of their order?
I look at record after 6 innings in a similar light. It’s not telling us a whole lot. What’s more telling are the actual performance metrics of the pitchers in the bullpen.
August 30th, 20125:39 pm
Baseball-reference provides this information, HERE. (Or, go to the team’s main stats page, and select the SCORING link).
Looks to me like the Braves are 59-7 when leading after 6; 10-7 when trailing after 6; and 5-43 when trailing after 6.
You can use the dropdown box at the top of the page to get other teams stats on scoring/leads lost or gained, etc.
I think I remember them ranking first in that Shaun, and how can you get any better than one loss?
Train Wreck – Yep, that’s the Fox game we’re getting in New England – shame though, sometimes they’ll give us the Philly game, but I guess that’s not a good enough matchup this year.
August 30th, 20125:40 pm
Ah, link must be too long. Just go to the team page and select Scoring.
10-7 when trailing after 6;
Well, try again. 10-7 when TIED after 6;
that is not close to what has been bruited around the national Braves airings the last few times Mike. They definitely said one loss
August 30th, 20125:42 pm
Mike – Joe and Chip (I think – I get the other team’s feed and it could have been the Padres Dudes who were raving over our bullpen) were talking about it just the other day – they said they only lost one they were leading after six.
LOL, I’m not having a good day.
My numbers are for leading/tied/trailing at the START of the 6th. At the end of the 6th, it is indeed 61-1 (leading), 8-10 (tied), 5-46 (trailing)
August 30th, 20125:45 pm
Actually Shaun, what it tells us is that despite having a starting staff that doesn’t routinely go more than 6, that our bullpen is holding the lead in almost every instance, which allows us to get by with several 3-4 slot pitchers and still be quite successful.
August 30th, 20125:47 pm
Yay, Mike! You got it. Kudos!
August 30th, 20125:50 pm
SNEAKY PETE, I am just mystified about how every prospect that comes along in the Braves seems to be dismissed because he doesn’t have Heyward or Freeman tools. Nobody last year was predicting Simmons to be a starter for the Braves, the experts thought he was very good on defense but his bat would preclude him from moving up in the near future. Heck, the Braves themselves, weren’t sure he would hit, thats why they drafted him as a a pitcher.
So, I just don’t see how bloggers can pontificate about a players ceiling with very little first hand info.
I am not calling out Efrim, I know he keeps up better than most of us with the scouting reports from Law, Baseball America, etc. But, If Efrim is honest he has ragged on Minor for instance for a long time until recently, when Minor started to show why the Braves felt so strongly about him.
I just wonder if Cunningham, Gattis,, Terdoslavich etc. might provea lot of people wrong and fans need to be patient till they show they can’t be starters or platoon players in the Majors.
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August 30th, 20125:51 pm
Nothing wrong with a guy who may be league-average or slightly worse offensively with elite defensive skills in centerfield. He doesn’t need to hit all that much to be tremendously valuable. He’s certainly displayed the ability to hit enough. If he were to get consistent playing time, I think he could be a top 12 centerfielder in the majors.
August 30th, 20125:52 pm
Shaun, My last post was directed to you. Sorry SNEAKY PETE
August 30th, 20125:56 pm
If Bourjos can hit .200 and not embarrass himself, that’s fine… Heck, we have a SS who does the same. If they bring great D, that’s (almost) all that matters. I don’t really care if they hit .200.
SS and CF are two of the most important defensive positions. Get those places filled with guys who will be tops in the league defensively.
August 30th, 20125:57 pm
Thanks, TOBF. All things yield to dilgence.
The Braves have had 10 blown saves, 3 of ‘em by EOF. And of course sometimes more than one BS in the same game.
I think we’ve won all but maybe one of the games in which we’ve had blown saves, though. So, that makes the ‘pen look more “lockdown” than maybe it really is (though I’m not denying that it’s good).
August 30th, 20125:59 pm
I don’t think Baltimore has any losses when leading after 6 innings, or at least they are close. I can’t remember. Also, my point is that most team, especially decent ones, are not going to blow many leads after 6 innings. So it doesn’t tell us all that much if the Braves have 1 loss and some other team has 3 or 4.
Actually Shaun, what it tells us is that despite having a starting staff that doesn’t routinely go more than 6, that our bullpen is holding the lead in almost every instance, which allows us to get by with several 3-4 slot pitchers and still be quite successful.
I think the relievers’ performance stats tell us more more about why the Braves can get by with a lot of 3-4 type starters. I don’t think you’ll find that they are drastically set apart from other teams when leading after 6 innings because most teams are going to win when leading after 6 innings.
ccrider, people make assessments on prospects because they enjoy it, that’s their job or both. People within the game obviously have to make assessments. You can’t just throw your hands up and say, “I don’t know” if it’s your job to make prospect assessments. Some are sure to exceed expectations and some that seem like good ones are sure to fail. But most who make assessments are going by what info they have and what history tells them about certain types of players with certain types of skills and abilities.
August 30th, 20126:00 pm
The only other ‘Efrim’ I know of rode in a 1963 Thunderbird Convertible [77 SunsetStrip-ABC]; so yeah….the man is a unique, you could say…a unique blogging talent. One of the good guys!
As to ‘Scoots,’ He is the quickest talent we have….an honest to goodness Professor of Blog output and a F’ing stalwart in the early morning baseball savvy world.
Jeffrey d…there again; tremendously valued and treasured blogger with a flair for ‘hardball issues.’
Nolieee….Of course it ‘all’ starts here; the heartbeat and soul….the Detroit infused soul jammin’. let’s get it right BlogFather in residence.
Ward…The late night talk host with empathy, respect and dedication in the wee hours…kind of, shall I say, a one-man ‘watchdog group.’
McFann….yes, the blog darling McFann….offering insightful statistical ‘play-by-play’ analysis of her beloved Mac……truly faithful in all respects and a blogger that enjoys ‘Icees’ after a Braves win.
Ace….yes that Ace….a relatively self-motivated anti-sentiment filled non-believer in the abilities of baseball managers….at the top of his list: Fredi. Talkative and consistently agreeable when Bravos take victory with an early barrage of high potency offensive play…guy comes early and stays late.
These are just a few of course–and, please know I am having trouble getting my tongue out of my cheek right now!!!:)
August 30th, 20126:09 pm
hit 200, TOBF? are you kidding? he is a good defender but not in Bourn’s class, we sure need more than 200 out of him.
I am really really sick of watching 200-230 hitters
August 30th, 20126:11 pm
Shaun, All I am saying is, Bourn didn’t have a breakout year until he was 27 years old. At age 24 (which Cunningham will be next year) : Bourn had the following stats:
41 steals/11 caught
Hardly, the stats that you would see getting a 15-20 million contract in 2013
Waffle House or Bust
August 30th, 20126:14 pm
Things that will keep Braves out of playoffs…
2. RISP (I called this one in May)
3. Sticking with Uggla way too long
4. Not trading for offense before deadline
5. Not beating teams we should beat.
6. Stop the childish hugging and act like warriors instead of the Harlem Globetrotters. It was funny at first but has gotten out of hand. Don’t see the Nats or Yankees playing hug in the dugout.
Captain Mudd: You must be really old to remember Efrim Zimbalist !
August 30th, 20126:19 pm
Efrim = Dandy Jim Buckley
August 30th, 20126:20 pm
yeah sure whatever WHOB
August 30th, 20126:21 pm
Lee – agree with everything you said about EOF. The braves will not move him unless the price is right.
August 30th, 20126:23 pm
tongue in cheek? I thought that sounded like pretty apt descriptions Mudd
August 30th, 20126:30 pm
77 Sunset Strip….SNAP, SNAP
Tip of the cap to CaptMudd. About the same time as several pretty good cop & detective shows, Like Peter Gunn, and M Squad.
Around The Horn
August 30th, 20126:32 pm
I didn’t like Fredi’s decision yesterday to pitch to the Padres best hitter, Chase Headley, who’s presently on a tear and could well be elected NL player of the month, with men on 2nd and 3rd and first base open.
The result: Headley drove in 2 runs.
Nor did I like Fredi’s decision to let Janish hit with the bases loaded with the Braves behind and desperately needing some runs.
The result: A Janish pop up.
August 30th, 20126:34 pm
Efrim was on Maverick befor 77 ss
August 30th, 20126:35 pm
That is pathetic – guy only has to make 2 decisions all day, and he blew both of them …
August 30th, 20126:42 pm
But he looked good pitching batting practice…
@ccrider….I said in the above; :’knew of,’ I didn’t say actively viewed or a ‘back then I,’ but I do like 50’s and 60’s t.v. shows–especially the detective/police variety, etc. However, what’s wrong wih being ‘really old?’ In my case, I happen to not be fyi….. however, if you are really young yourself–then the 45-55 age bracket would appear really old to you….but it is not, and, I hope you are not beset by an age-number because whatever it is or however high–trust me you’ll be there soon enough [if not there now].
August 30th, 20126:44 pm
Looked better than Tommy who was also throwing BP
August 30th, 20126:45 pm
@Sneaky Pete…….A tad of political jargon is all
August 30th, 20126:47 pm
I ‘tip my hat’ to Broderick Crawford, “Highway Patrol,” Awesome!!!
August 30th, 20126:50 pm
Lee Marvin …M Squad
August 30th, 20126:55 pm
A PLEA ABOUT AJC ADVERTISING
DOB, I really wish the AJC wouldn’t put advertising for Cheetah on your web site. I hate seeing these ads day after day.
Surely you can find other advertisers to support Braves baseball.
Does anyone else out there feel the same way?
August 30th, 20126:56 pm
The farthest recesses of my memory would hit 77 Sunset Strip and Hawaiian Eye in that genre…
August 30th, 20127:07 pm
I had forgotten about Hawaiian Eye
Need to take 2 of 3 vs the Phillies.
August 30th, 20127:12 pm
Happy Birthday Nolie!
August 30th, 20127:14 pm
In a late inning game, it’s unbelievable Fredi doesn’t use Constanza to pinchrun when one of his heavyweights gets a hit. The Cardinals always used a runner for Pujols, thats how they edged the braves out and won the World Series. I don’t think Fredi is getting very good advice from his coach’s.
August 30th, 20127:15 pm
DOWN ON THE FARM
Posted up last nightMISSISSIPPI
was rained out last night.
“CATS win in 13, 8-5. 15 hits including shots by MYC JONES, ED SALCEDO, and ADAM MILLIGAN
Lead-off LF DAN BREWER [.263 BA] 2-6, 2 R, 1 2B .
SS NICK AHMED [,262 BA] 2-5, 1 RBI , 1 BB, 1 SO.
2B TOMMY LaSTELLA [.297 BA] 5-6, 2 2B , 1 3B , 1 RBI .
Looks like TOMMY’s back issues are a thing of the past. That’s a monster game at the plate!!!!
DH CHRIS GARCIA [.291 BA] 0-6, HAT TRICK!
RF ADAM MILLIGAN [.254 BA] 1-5, 2 R, 1 HR , 1 RBI , 1 BB, HAT TRICK, 1 Outfield Assist [3B]!
3B ED SALCEDO [.237 BA] 2-6, 2 R, 1 2B , 1 HR , 2 RBI  1 E [42, fielding].
CF MYC JONES [.256 BA] 3-5, 1 R, 1 2B , 1 HR , 1 BB.
LHSP DiMASTHER DELGADO [3.84 ERA] 6.0 IP, 6 H, 2 R/ER, 0 BB, 5 SO.
Nice solid start.
RHRP RYNE HARPER [H 5, 1.91 ERA] 1.0 IP, no-hits, 1 BB, 3 SO.
LHRP CHASEN SHREVE [BS 3, 2.23 ERA] 0.2 IP, 3 H, 1 HR, 3 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 0 SO.
The culprit that led to free baseball.
RHRP JOHN CORNELY [0.00 ERA] 2.1 IP, no-hits, 1 BB, 4 SO.
Outstanding relief stint.
RHRP IAN MARSHALL [W 1-4, 5.53 ERA] 2.0 IP, 1 H, zeros, 2 BB, 1 SO.
LHRP BLAINE SIMS [SV 1, 4.21 ERA] 1.0 IP, 1 H, zeros.
Legion swats GREE-JACKETS for a 4-3 win.
Rookie LHSP DAVE STARN [5.85 ERA] 4.0 IP, 8 H, 2 R/ER, 2 BB, 2 SO.
RHRP WILSON RIVERA [2.93 ERA] 3.0 IP, no-hits, 2 BB, 3 SO.
RHRP Rookie DAVE PETERSON [W 3-1, 2.25 ERA] 2.0 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 1 SO.
Six singles ultimately produce five winning runs.SS ELMER REYES [.253 BA], 1B WILLIAM BECKWITH [.202 BA], DH ROBBY HEFFLINGER [.284 BA], Rookie 2B ROSS HEFFLEY [.289 BA], RF WIL SKINNER [.246 BA], 3B KYLE KUBITZA [.241 BA], and LF rookie CHASE ANSELMENT [.218 BA] had a single apiece. SKINNER scored twice, HEFFLINGER, ANSELMENT, and KUBITZA scored a run. REYES had the only RBI .
Posted up this morning. They lost their first play-off game to the TWINS 4-0.
August 30th, 20127:16 pm
Span placed on DL, could be done for the season; Carson to be promoted: http://bit.ly/SWPnfu #MNTwins
If he is truly done for the season, I really don’t want to trade for him this offseason. Never wanted him before, but I definitely don’t want to trade for a guy without seeing how he does after injury.
Washington Nationals — Stephen Strasburg has 2-3 starts left
August 30th, 20127:17 pm
Heh! You sure are a sneaky pete!
August 30th, 20127:19 pm
In a late inning game, it’s unbelievable Fredi doesn’t use Constanza to pinchrun when one of his heavyweights gets a hit
Would have been easy to have flown in from Gwinnett in the 8th inning yesterday…
You got that right.
August 30th, 20127:21 pm
August 30th, 20127:22 pm
I stayed in a HOLIDAY INN in TEMPE, ARIZONA one night quite a few years back. There was a star pasted on the entrance door saying LEE MARVIN slept here. I immediatley went in and looked under the bed for empty whiskey bottles. HEH!
Happy Birthday Nolie! _ Big Jake
Ha, it’s nolie’s birthday? Happy Birthday, my friend.
Hey, Big Jake
August 30th, 20127:23 pm
My main man. ‘Zup bro’?
August 30th, 20127:24 pm
Happy Birthday Noles
BAT says HAPPY B-DAY!
August 30th, 20127:25 pm
1st inning 2 run HR for Harper…
Not much,rich,hoping Nats lose. Up 2-0.
August 30th, 20127:27 pm
At our age we don’t take anything for granted, least of all birthdays do we nolie? Hope yours has been excellent! Have you become a geezereete this year?
SNEAKY PETE, Just poking fun at at any one, not old , even, knowing about those TV shows. I am one of the OLD ones that grew up watching them. Palladin ANYONE!
August 30th, 20127:29 pm
Jack Benny anyone? Milton Berle?
August 30th, 20127:32 pm
Danged kids. Get off my lawn!
August 30th, 20127:35 pm
Happy birthday nolie the wise.
August 30th, 20127:36 pm
A RICHARD BOONE moment!
‘Oh yes ma’m. My momma’ taught me to remove my hat and my seegar in the presence of a lady. Whatever else I take off depends on how lucky I get” HOMBRE
‘Mister, you got a lot of hard bark on you coming down here like this.” ‘Now I own you. You put two holes in me.” HOMBRE
August 30th, 20127:38 pm
Nobody is better on this blog than nolie. Happy birthday, buddy.
August 30th, 20127:39 pm
One of my fav movie lines
DAMM’D kids! BURGESS MEREDITH – GRUMPY OLD MEN
CICERO GRIMES meet JOHN RUSSELL
A couple of years ago i watched the first Have Gun, Will Travel on Hulu, and there was Jack Lord as the outlaw…
kookie kookie lend me your comb!!
August 30th, 20127:40 pm
August 30th, 20127:42 pm
50. Book ‘um DANO
August 30th, 20127:44 pm
Off his last one, I’m for letting him have a few more.
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