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David O'Brien
August 30th, 2012
10:08 am
In case you hadn’t heard, this is what Buster wrote in his blog yesterday re: Kimbrel and Cy Young:
Today, my own unofficial NL Cy Young ballot would be: 1. Johnny Cueto, who is 17-6 after his latest victory. 2. Craig Kimbrel. 3. Aroldis Chapman.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
10:08 am
Not sure I like the chances of the offense getting hot this weekend against those pitchers Philly is running out there. Hope I’m wrong.
That’s a good point. Lee has been a tough luck pitcher this season. He’s due.
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
10:09 am
Maholm will stick with Atlanta or we basically just gave up Vizcaino for Reed Johnson.
Johnson is a FA this year. No guarantee that he’ll be back, even though he looks like a perfect fit for the Braves. Me, I’d overpay the guy to keep him.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
10:10 am
I’d vote to keep Johnson, too. From what I gather, Wren’s been high on him a long time.
Murph
August 30th, 2012
10:10 am
The odds of Hanson having more bad outings are not in his favor. The writing is on the wall for the big goofy redhead… his season is done.
If Fredi keeps running him out there, that’s on Fredi. There are several options in the system who could take Hanson’s starts. Both Delgado and Teheran are better options, despite their struggles in AAA. They at least have the stuff to win, where Hanson does not.
Hell, at this point I’d rather see 3 from Martinez to start followed by 3 from Avilan than another Hanson start. Screw his ego, get to the freakin’ playoffs.
Hillbilly
August 30th, 2012
10:11 am
Randall walked the park after being sent back to AAA, and that has to make the Braves at least a little leery.
Pout factor? I hate using that excuse, but everybody’s doing it with Teheran, so why not?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
10:11 am
We can’t make a 4-man rotation work for Sept? I mean, there’s no point to letting Hanson pitch 4 innings before we take him out. He hasn’t been effective past the 4th lately. Surely one of the AAA starters can do better than this.
.302/.376/.521/.897 (11 starts)
Oppo. batting avg. against Tommy since June 20…. he’s been horrible since May 1, with batters hitting .283/.359/.477/.836 against him (20 starts since May 1)
This is worse than Minor…geez. And he’s not that young to blame it on it being his 1st year in the bigs and call it growing pains. This is Tommy’s 4th season.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:14 am
Dadgum, Ben Sheets isn’t eligible to come off of the DL until Sunday, September 9th.
We need someone to start Tuesday, 9/4 in Atlanta vs. the Rockies – Hanson will start that game.
northbeach Scott
August 30th, 2012
10:14 am
DOB, thx for the Medlen story. It makes it even clear how stupid Fredi G is for not starting him earlier in the season. If the Braves are lucky enough to go to the WC 1 game playoff, they will lose it if Medlen does not pitch. The we can lament that if Fredi had just used Meds as a starter earlier, we could have won the division and avoided theWC showdown.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
10:15 am
Hell, at this point I’d rather see 3 from Martinez to start followed by 3 from Avilan than another Hanson start.
Me too…. and I’m not even a big fan or CMart… surely he can do better than Tommy though
Pout factor? I hate using that excuse, but everybody’s doing it with Teheran, so why not?
That was my first thought as well.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:15 am
I’d give Hanson next Tuesday’s start vs. the Rockies. If he bombs again, Sheets can be activated from the DL next Sunday vs. the Mets.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
10:17 am
DOB, thx for the Medlen story. It makes it even clear how stupid Fredi G is for not starting him earlier in the season. If the Braves are lucky enough to go to the WC 1 game playoff, they will lose it if Medlen does not pitch. The we can lament that if Fredi had just used Meds as a starter earlier, we could have won the division and avoided theWC showdown.
What if the earth is struck by an asteroid before then? Predictions, they don’t always come true, ’cause things can happen.
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
10:18 am
Pout factor?
I’m usually good with that for a game or two after a demotion (I don’t think most folks get how crushing that is; the guy who can take it in stride with no problems is the exception, not the rule). But you got to buck up at some point and stop weeping in your grits. So, I don’t know if one can lay the command problems all at the door of despair.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:19 am
Be real interesting to see Frank Wren’s move this offseason with Hanson if he fails again next week and doesn’t appear again aside from mop up duty in the Braves rotation. He’ll make 3.5-4 million through arbitration in 2013, and maybe he does just decide to sell low on him.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
10:19 am
We need someone to start Tuesday, 9/4 in Atlanta vs. the Rockies –
Martinez? Avilan? Weren’t both of those guys starters in the minors?
I’d give Hanson next Tuesday’s start vs. the Rockies. If he bombs again, Sheets can be activated from the DL next Sunday vs. the Mets.
If??? You must mean when…. all Tommy’s do since May (and 2nd half last year) is bomb…. He needs to go to the ‘pen.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
10:20 am
I’d give Hanson next Tuesday’s start vs. the Rockies. If he bombs again, Sheets can be activated from the DL next Sunday vs. the Mets.
I think Hanson has been given plenty of chances and his trend line isn’t good. I’d pull him in favor of Martinez, if need be. Too much at stake.
Hillbilly
August 30th, 2012
10:21 am
If the Braves were to stay on this rotation throughout September:
-Hanson would pitch the second game against Washington.
-He would also get the first game in Philly.
-Medlen, Hanson, and Minor would get the final series in Pittsburgh.
-Hudson would be in line for the 1 game playoff.
Now counting today, there are 4 off days so Fredi has plenty of opportunities to mix it up if he wants to.
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
10:22 am
The we can lament that if Fredi had just used Meds as a starter earlier, we could have won the division and avoided theWC showdown.
People here can’t even get predictions right from one inning to the next, and someone wants to predict what a pitcher might or might not have done in 15 starts? Spare me.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
10:23 am
He’ll make 3.5-4 million through arbitration in 2013, and maybe he does just decide to sell low on him.
If someone will take him, do it. I don’t care if it’s for a 27 yr. old journeyman OF at AA. Clear that 4mil for us to get an OF or SP. Hanson has no room in the rotation next year, esp. pitching as he has and will be too costly for the ‘pen.
I just can’t see anyone trading for him. Damaged goods. Doubt Frank would non-tender him either cuz he’s “cheap” and “young”, but he needs to go somewhere…
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:23 am
Both Teheran and Delgado will start today’s doubleheader vs. Pawtucket.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
10:26 am
I think Hanson has been given plenty of chances and his trend line isn’t good.
Agree…. no need for more chances. Much like Jurrjens, he has shown what he has and it isn’t good. We have seen enough. It is time to make a change.
Do we happen to have enough off days to make a 4-man rotation possible? If we supposedly don’t have a 5th starter who can do better than Tommy, then just cut him out.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:27 am
If someone will take him, do it. I don’t care if it’s for a 27 yr. old journeyman OF at AA.
He’d be like the Royals best pitcher – I’m not trading him for that.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:30 am
Ed Salcedo made his 42nd error of the season last night. 42 errors in 125 games.
.237/.294/.401 line on the season with a 33/125 BB/K ratio, 15 HR’s, 25 2B’s, 2 3B’s and 22 SB in 35 attempts – 63% success rate.
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
10:30 am
He’d be like the Royals best pitcher – I’m not trading him for that.
I think you can expect many posters here to be in nose-to-spite-face mode, re Hanson. Wren is a little smarter than that, luckily.
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
10:32 am
15 HR’s, 25 2B’s, 2 3B’s
My guess is that those are the numbers that catches the FO’s attention.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
10:33 am
Ed Salcedo made his 42nd error of the season last night. 42 errors in 125 games.
Not impressed with the kid. Does he get bumped up to Mississippi next season? Maybe he’ll improve there. Dunno.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:34 am
Sleeper: A year ago, Andrelton Simmons established his prospect credentials with an excellent season the Carolina League. Fellow Braves shortstop Nick Ahmed didn’t match Simmons’ Carolina League production, but he did show plenty of potential at the plate and on the basepaths to go with solid defense at shortstop. He doesn’t have Simmons’ range, but he does have the chance to develop into a solid big league shortstop.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:38 am
I believe yesterday was LHP Sean Gilmartin’s last start of the season. Solid debut for the kid – 26 starts, 3 CG, 153 IP, 145 hits, 63 ER, 12 HR allowed, 38 BB’s, 106 K’s.
Today will be it for Teheran and Delgado.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
10:38 am
Nope, we don’t have enough off days to go 4-man…. more days of watching Hanson…. Great!
He’d be like the Royals best pitcher – I’m not trading him for that.
Yeah, their best pitcher with an injured shoulder and an 87mph FB with below average control/command. Yes. But I’m sure he won’t be the best. Hochevar will be. Maybe another guy or 2 passes Hanson. You put Hanson in the AL, he would get lit up more than 2 Christmas trees. He doesn’t have it.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
10:39 am
Fellow Braves shortstop Nick Ahmed didn’t match Simmons’ Carolina League production, but he did show plenty of potential at the plate and on the basepaths to go with solid defense at shortstop.
Is Ahmed second baseman material?
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:42 am
My guess is that those are the numbers that catches the FO’s attention.
He’ll be 21 years old through most of next season, and if it’s at Mississippi, then that’s quite young for the level. Still need to see better from him though, but one good season will change a lot of peoples view on him, I’d bet. Just hope it’s next year.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
10:43 am
Is Ahmed second baseman material?
Or maybe 3B?
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:44 am
With five weeks left in the season, general managers are scouting the top starting pitchers who will lead this offseason’s free agent class. That includes the Los Angeles Angels’ Zack Greinke, St. Louis Cardinals’ Kyle Lohse, Washington Nationals’ Edwin Jackson, and Texas Rangers’ Ryan Dempster.
They’re also evaluating starting pitchers who could be available in a trade this winter like the Seattle Mariners’ Jason Vargas or Chicago Cubs’ Matt Garza. And they are studying other team’s farm systems in case they can trade for a top starting pitching prospect like the Atlanta Braves’ Julio Teheran while identifying pitchers in their own farm system who might be ready to make the jump to the big leagues in 2013. – Jim Bowden
I’d bet Frank Wren is going to get a lot of calls over the winter for Teheran. I hope he holds strong and keeps him. Still a ton of potential and still incredibly young.
CrαZy
August 30th, 2012
10:45 am
If someone will take him, do it. I don’t care if it’s for a 27 yr. old journeyman OF at AA.
Dadgum.......
August 30th, 2012
10:45 am
Sheets will definitely pitch next weekend and most likely Delgado pitches Tuesday after the call ups to keep him on schedule. Looking at the schedule there are maybe 3 more starts for a 5th guy possibly 4 depending on the Pirates games. If those are must win then somebody goes on short rest.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:46 am
Is Ahmed second baseman material?
That’s what I’ve read. More likely as a 2nd baseman or a utility type.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
10:49 am
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/08/offseason-trades-fuel-athletics-success.html
Billy Beane did have a good offseason, I’ll give him that. First in a while though. But, an excellent offseason indeed.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
10:50 am
He’s had some success in the past I think we can get more than that… Maybe a Johnathon Sanchez for Melky or better type deal??
I don’t want a ‘roided up OF!!! That trade was stupid by the Royals, imo…. they got a really bad pitcher for a good OF’er. I don’t even think Hanson could get that much… he’s been very bad for a while now. His last continued period of success came early last year.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
10:51 am
Is Ahmed second baseman material?
That’s what I’ve read. More likely as a 2nd baseman or a utility type.
Uggla has three years remaining on his contract. Figure Ahmed is at Mississippi next season and Gwinnett in ‘14. Might just work out that he moves into the second baseman’s slot in ‘15 or ‘16.
Long way off, though.
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
10:51 am
Still need to see better from him though, but one good season will change a lot of peoples view on him, I’d bet. Just hope it’s next year.
The kid made outs at a spectacular rate and still slugged .400, Efrim. You don’t easily give up on that kind of thump.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
10:57 am
I don’t think the Braves are giving up on Salcedo. They’ve invested a lot of money in him, and, yes, he is still young. Who knows, a light might go off as he climbs the ladder and gains maturity. But right now, given the early hype and bonus he received, I don’t think he’s lived up to the billing.
Shaun
August 30th, 2012
10:57 am
Efrim and Jeff R, don’t know all that much about Ahmed but just eyeballing, he looks like a low-risk, low-ceiling infielder. If he can stick at short, and it seems like people think he can, he may be a major league starter.
cowdogit
August 30th, 2012
10:59 am
Maybe a hundred pitchers went through the braves system during Mazzone’s era, I don’t think we would talking about Smoltz, Glavine and Maddox if not for Mazzone. The fans that don’t understand how important it is to devlope young pitchers should start watching the golf channel.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
11:01 am
The kid made outs at a spectacular rate and still slugged .400, Efrim. You don’t easily give up on that kind of thump.
Good point. .164 ISO. I think he’ll hit in the majors – just might not be at 3B and in in a corner outfield spot instead.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 30th, 2012
11:05 am
Is Ahmed second baseman material?
****************
Is Uggla second baseman material?
Apparently not….
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
11:05 am
I always compare Salcedo to Wilmer Flores, Jefrey Marte of the Mets system, Xander Boegarts of the Red Sox system and Cheslor Cuthbert of the Royals.
No idea why, just do. Latin minor league SS/3rd base prospects perhaps.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
11:06 am
Maybe a hundred pitchers went through the braves system during Mazzone’s era, I don’t think we would talking about Smoltz, Glavine and Maddox if not for Mazzone.
Let’s not forget that Smoltz was out of the Tigers’ farm system and Maddux was already a Cubs’ starter when the Braves signed him to a deal. Glavine was the only bona fide Braves’ farm hand of the three.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
11:06 am
I think he’ll hit in the majors – just might not be at 3B and in in a corner outfield spot instead.
Might have to be DH if he can’t improve that fielding.
Efrim
August 30th, 2012
11:07 am
Phillies are 4-10 vs.the Mets and 3-9 vs. the Braves in 2012.
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:07 am
Good morning all
Yup, This is the real George, thie one who does not like FREDI very much.
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
11:07 am
Looks like Isaac is at the beginning stages on moving in, we’re beginning to have a few wind gusts and looks like the clouds are just on the horizon. Last estimates I’ve heard, as much as 5 to 7 inches of rain… that’s a lot of water specially as dry as it’s been all summer long.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
11:08 am
Well, at least we’re off of the Hanson talk…. that’s a good thing
Let’s not forget that Smoltz was out of the Tigers’ farm system and Maddux was already a Cubs’ starter when the Braves signed him to a deal. Glavine was the only bona fide Braves’ farm hand of the three.
Facts are unnecessary… Mazzone was so awesome and McDowell is garbage
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 30th, 2012
11:09 am
Perhaps I’ll be proven wrong and hopefully so, but the time has come to take a stand….
We will not win the division nor a “wildcard” spot this year.
The hellishly inconsistent lumber will be the usual number one reason.
Cue the tapes from the west coast swing just past….
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:12 am
GOOD GRIEF. Can this team only win with HUDDY or MEDLEN? BELIEVE IN THE MEDS. There is not much else to believe in with this team. When CHIPPER is gone so am I.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
11:14 am
Is this the old phil or a new phil?
We will not win the division nor a “wildcard” spot this year.
The stand I’m taking is that the Braves make it to the post season.
So, take that, old or new phil!
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
11:14 am
think he’ll hit in the majors – just might not be at 3B and in in a corner outfield spot instead.
If Marcus Giles could be taught to play 2B, Salcedo can be taught to play 3B. Seriously, you cannot imagine how bad a glove Giles once was, in the minors.
Fielding is about technique, and technique is about reps. Salcedo certainly has the athleticism, but I don’t believe he had the amateur competition to develop proper IF instincts. That means he has to learn a lot of stuff, and then turn that knowledge into instinctive behavior. That takes a while.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
11:16 am
George_George… George, did someone swipe your name, hence, “George_George?” Or were you just looking for a new fall outfit?
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:16 am
On post-game qoutes
FREDI JUST RESIGN! We are tired of your sad a** excuses.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
11:18 am
FREDI JUST RESIGN!
You are one single-minded cuss, Jorge. Or is it “Jorge_Jorge?”
Lew
August 30th, 2012
11:19 am
Things determined in oivernight posts -
1. Hanson doesn’t work hard.
2. Hanson should be done.
3. Mazzone won 14 division titles
4. “In most of Hanson’s wins, Braves had to score more runs than he gave up.”
5. Cwdog(sh)it and Ward are total freaking idiots.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
11:22 am
5. Cwdog(sh)it and Ward are total freaking idiots
Nah. Those two? Enlightened beyond their years.
CB
August 30th, 2012
11:22 am
Lew, did you get your registration problems straightened out?
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
11:23 am
“In most of Hanson’s wins, Braves had to score more runs than he gave up.”
Lew, I think I cleared that one up hopefully.
Trader Jack
August 30th, 2012
11:23 am
Talk about infield conversions, the Phils had Utley fielding grounders at 3B yesterday. Word is they would like to move him there and have Galvis handle 2B
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:24 am
Coffee good this morning, BRAVES not so good.
Lew
August 30th, 2012
11:24 am
CB – I quit trying – if I didn’t manage to have them accept it in five tries, I’m figuring I’ll just wait until DOB gets fed up with everyone complaining and beats the nerds with his notebook to fix the system – which they may actually be trying to do anyway..
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:25 am
Good to see you Lew.
Lew
August 30th, 2012
11:27 am
Transplant – If he couldn’t see the abject stupidity inherent in that statement, I’m not sure it is clear uppable.
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:27 am
CHIPPER the last on the field link to the great years.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
11:29 am
CHIPPER the last on the field link to the great years.
And when Chipper goes, the Braves will make new memories.
CB
August 30th, 2012
11:29 am
Lew, blog will probably go bonkers if you are not here.
Lew
August 30th, 2012
11:30 am
George – And it’s good that I can see. Went to the Eye Doctor on Tuesday after a surgical procedure had gone wrong and my vision in the right eye was LESS than 20-800 (no typo). Today it was 20-250. I can actually see shapes now.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
11:31 am
I haven’t tried to register yet. I understand that when a new blog is posted, we’re denied access until we register?
Lew
August 30th, 2012
11:31 am
CB – Well, if so, they can advocate fixing the system.
vitriol spewer (phil)
August 30th, 2012
11:32 am
Jeff R – It’s lovable ole old phil….I was forced to choose a new name upon registering yesterday, and DOB chose to insult me by lumping me in, subtly, with angry vitriol spewers that run amuck here from time to time.
It will eventually be my new name, so I decided to go ahead with it now.
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:33 am
Hey Lew
I hope there will be great improvement, you heed good eyesight for what you do. Do they say there will be improvement?
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
11:33 am
Lew, sorry to read that. Hope your sight keeps improving.
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:33 am
Hey Lew
I hope there will be great improvement, you heed good eyesight for what you do. Do they say there will be improvement?
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:33 am
sorry douple post
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
11:35 am
vitriol spewer (phil). Geez. I wonder if my handle will stand the test? Maybe I can be Ward, Jr.?
On second thought…
Lew
August 30th, 2012
11:37 am
Thanks y’all – It’s more of a pain dealing with it than an obstruction. Just started rocking the eye patch look – still have 20-20 in the left eye and can drive, paint and do anything I need doing.
But it looks like the best case scenario is improvement (with many more treatments) to 20-50 at best. It’s only been that good for a matter of weeks over the past nine years. This is nothing new, just more of thesame and a couple of bad reactions to the current medication thhey use for the injections.
CB
August 30th, 2012
11:39 am
Jeff R, might want to register . I thought about registering about 15 times under different regular bloggers names but I’m not as knowledgeable as scoots, as funny as Hillbilly or Tater,I don’t hug prospects like Efrim and I am not a genius like Shaun.
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
11:41 am
CB, just got to keep pluggin away until you find your niche.
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
11:42 am
I thought about registering about 15 times under different regular bloggers names
“A rose, by any other name…”, CB.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
11:43 am
CB: There’s room for you to join the Greinke train!
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:43 am
Am I right, CHIPPER and BRIAN are the only players left from our last 1st place finish 2005?
ChattTownBrian
August 30th, 2012
11:44 am
Efrim, can we even afford to throw Hanson out there for even one more start? Race it so tight all around. The guy is beyond terrible. He has a hitter or three where he looks in control, but then just loses it quick after.
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
11:44 am
CB: There’s room for you to join the Greinke train!
But let me warn you, that’s a cold, dark, lonely road.
Jeff R
August 30th, 2012
11:45 am
CB… I’ll try shortly. If I’m back on as “Glenhilda” or something, I’ll let everyone know.
CB
August 30th, 2012
11:45 am
Hey, I couldn’t even be just CB. It has be at least 3 characters so new name is CB- Blind Squirrel.
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
11:46 am
But let me warn you, that’s a cold, dark, lonely road.
…where even the righteous fear to tread, LOL.
CB
August 30th, 2012
11:46 am
TOBF, has hell frozen over yet?
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
11:47 am
Where are you guys seeing this registration deal? I haven’t had any sweat posting comments on the last two or three blogs, at all.
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
11:49 am
but then just loses it quick after.
I thinnk a lot of that has to do with the fact he knows he’s lost velocity, so to compensate he tries to overthrow a lot of pitches. This usually only results in 1 or 2 things, 1. errand throws and 2. flat pitches left high in the zone. I really think if he could learn to use his legs more, he’d see better results. He’s too much of a whip arm.
CB
August 30th, 2012
11:49 am
scoots,home page in right corner. We will need it soon supposedly.
ChattTownBrian
August 30th, 2012
11:50 am
Get well Lew.
George_George
August 30th, 2012
11:50 am
ncscoots
August 30th, 2012
11:47 am
They all where talking about it after the blog came back up yesterday after being down for a while.
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
11:51 am
CB- Blind Squirrel
yes, but even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 30th, 2012
11:51 am
Efrim, can we even afford to throw Hanson out there for even one more start? Race it so tight all around. The guy is beyond terrible.
Agree… one start from Hanson isn’t needed… he’s burned all his chances. Get him out the rotation, please.
But let me warn you, that’s a cold, dark, lonely road.
Indeed… it’s only 2 of us at the moment, I believe.
TOBF, has hell frozen over yet?
It’s about to…. that new blog format will be hell frozen over.
We’ll see
Arkansas Transplant
August 30th, 2012
11:52 am
It’s even been easier to find one on here lately… happy hunting.