Braves quotes after Wednesday’s loss to Padres

FREDI GONZALEZ

On the sloppy 5th inning and the loss

“We dropped a fly ball; that’s going to happen. A little miscommunication there with Pauly [Janish] and Chipper. But we had a chance to get out of it. The bunt that they popped up to the infield, we’ve got to get an out there. At the very least catch it in the air. And we didn’t do that, and they scored two.”

“We put a number up [run in the fifth] and we just couldn’t do anything else until the home run by Rossy. You feel like we had a chance to win the series today with Tommy on the mound. Didn’t happen. We go back on the plane 4-6. We were shooting to go back 5-5. Take the off day and regroup a little bit, then get the Phillies at home.

“But we had some opportunities early and just couldn’t take advantage. I don’t think we put a crooked number up the whole series. What did we have, a solo home run and another run yesterday, and one run today in each [of two] frames? You’re not going to win ballgames that way. When you get an opportunity you have to put a three-spot or a four-spot up on the board to win ballgames.”

Fatigued after long stretch of 20 games in 20 days?

“I don’t know about that. Our offense, we’re OK. We’ve got a pretty good offense, but for whatever reason … you’ve got to give a little credit to the Padres, the way they pitched us, but we need to get it going a little bit.”

On Hanson’s frequent early exits

“I think right now his command is the issue, his fastball command. It’s not going where he wants it to go. Some of the balls are being left over the plate, and he’s walking guys with the fastball. But this is only his third start off of the DL, so maybe he’ll get it going here in the next couple of starts.”

On Hanson not reaching down to field bunt, back bothering him?

“He hasn’t said anything about his back or anything. It was just not a very good play on our part.”

**TOMMY HANSON

On ugliness of the fifth inning

“Yeah, but you’ve got to battle through those. Probably the biggest thing that sticks out in my head was the leadoff walk in the fourth. I thought I did a decent job early on, executing my pitches. Then in the fourth and fifth, no so much.”

The flubbed bunt in the fifth inning

“Stuff like that is going to happen. I don’t know, I heard someone yell and then I was going to try to play it off the bounce. Then it just kind of scooted past me.”

On his command

“It’s got to be better than what it is now. I’m just going to keep working and do what I can to get it back where it needs to be.”

**CHIPPER JONES

On the missed pop-up, miscommunication with you and Janish?

“Yeah. I know I was drifting on it a little bit, but Paul called it right at the last second and I was pretty much at the point of no return. And I just tried to jump up and get it at its highest point. We made contact, so … It’s just a frustrating end to the road trip. Especially a play like that. It looks bad. Then to compound it, we don’t field the bunt right after that, and all of a sudden a one-run lead is a three-run lead.

“We, for whatever reason, struggled to score runs here in San Diego. Can’t seem to string anything together.”

Did you hear Janish coming?

“I heard him at the last second. How many times do you see somebody calls it at the last second and both guys shy away and it drops? And I wasn’t going to let that happen. It’s just one of those unfortunate ‘tweeners that didn’t go our way today. Not much else did either.”

On team being in better spot than before last year’s collapse

“I think we’re better mentally. It seemed like last year we just couldn’t get any breaks. Couldn’t hit, couldn’t make the big pitch when we needed to, couldn’t make the big play.

“You know, I still feel like we’re playing pretty good baseball. We ran into some pretty good pitching on this road trip, but I’m certainly looking for bigger and better things on this upcoming homestand. We’re a tired club right now. This is obviously a long trip, a lot of shady starting times, and playing every day. Some guys are tired. I think we’re looking forward to the day off tomorrow and the Phillies coming into town this weekend.”

On standing ovations in his last game at San Diego, also where he made his major league debut

“I’ve always enjoying coming here. It’s one of my favorite places to come. The ceremony the first night, getting to see Trevor [Hoffman] again, he and I faced each other so many times over the years. Good to catch up with him…

“It’s another one down. And obviously it holds a special place in my heart because it’s where I got my first appearance.”

89 comments Add your comment

David from Athens, AL

August 29th, 2012
11:02 pm

Thanks DOB!! Appreciate you!

David O'Brien

August 29th, 2012
11:20 pm

David from Athens: You’re more than welcome. And thank you.

Walt

August 29th, 2012
11:26 pm

They just look beat- a day off will do us good. Go Braves- finish stong

Ken Stallings

August 29th, 2012
11:37 pm

David, when do you think the new posting system will be in place? I am really looking forward to it because in addition to confirming one’s ID, you can also edit your post immediately after posting it.

In my view, Hanson is giving himself too much credit. His pitch location from the first inning until it blew up once again in the fourth and fifth innings was consistently poor. It took a series of excellent fielding plays to keep the Padres off the scoreboard until they broke through in the fourth.

From your observation of the bunt play, David, did you get the impression the ball merely skipped past him or did you see what I saw — that Hanson tried to catch the ball with his bare hand and when he missed it, he gave up on the rest of the play opportunity even though with his back to the base runner he could not have known whether he had a play or not. Nothing wrong with a throw to first base that’s too late, but if you don’t try you never have a chance.

I thought Hanson gave up on that play when he had a chance to record the out at first base. Fredi Gonzalez seemed to indicate that and certainly the TV announcers all did. What did you think?

COOPER

August 30th, 2012
12:07 am

Before the game I said the Braves were going to have to score at least 5 runs if they want to win this game. They needed more. It doesn’t matter what the reason was Hanson does not have the control to last more than 5 innings and giving up 4 or 5 run is about right for him. They may not be all earned runs or his fault but he is no leader and the Braves will find a way when Hanson is pitching.
When I played baseball we had a pitcher just like Hanson. He advertised what he was going to throw every pitch. Needless to say he only got to AA. If Hanson wants to be successful he needs to develop a traditional wind-up so he can hide the ball as long as possible. Also a running team will be able to steal on him all day because of that pause at the top of his wind-up. He has got to pitch ahead to batter a show he is not scared but I think the reason he go’s deep in the count to most every batter is because he just doesn’t have the control to pitch at the major league level. He certainly doesn’t have the control to pitch out of the bull pen.
I would use him as part of a trade to get someone to take Uggla or Chippers place.

birddawgbill

August 30th, 2012
12:13 am

I believe its Delgado time. Let’s face it he can’t be any worse than Hanson. More and more Hanson looks like a long reliever. Here’s an offseason idea, Hanson, Tehran, Salcedo, and a midling minor leaguer for Headley. Just an idea. Doesn’t have to be Tehran could be Gilmartin, or Delgado.

COOPER

August 30th, 2012
12:13 am

I think Hanson is covering up that he has back troubles. The reason he couldn’t field the bunt was because he can’t bend over that far without hurting his back further. He has very little flexibility.

Semper Fi Braves fan

August 30th, 2012
12:15 am

On Hanson’s frequent early exits
But this is only his third start off of the DL, so maybe he’ll get it going here in the next couple of starts.”

Good old idiot of a manager. He’s pitching terrible! So we are going to keep running him out there every 5th day. Then we will go play golf in October. Keep drinking the coolaid, Frediot because obviously your theory has worked with Uggla.

COOPER

August 30th, 2012
12:22 am

The braves will never trade Gilmartin before they are able to determine just where he will fit in. Is he a starter or reliever? If he is a starter is he a number 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 pitcher. In the future the Braves rotation will have Medlen as #1 , Frenchy # 2 , Hudson or Maholm #3 which one they don’t trade and Minor #4. That leaves a #5 starter to be determined.

COOPER

August 30th, 2012
12:35 am

Semper Fi Braves fan
I will second that, Gonzalez is not a major league manager. He said he was going to start shaking things up. He sat Uggla one or two games. I would bring Simmons back , if he is ready, put Prodo on second and when Chipper needed rest I would put either play Prodo at second or Third and play Janish or Francisco in the position they play the best. Until Simmons is ready I would play Prodo at second. Uggla is a good fielder but so is everybody else who would play instead of him. But, one thing is for sure his lack of hitting is hurting the braves and he doesn’t deserve to start.

Michael Woody

August 30th, 2012
12:36 am

Atlanta needs to go into games with a winning mindset. If they want to make to October, they need to play harder. Fans would like to see some wins in September, so lets start now. Go braves!

NorCal Brave

August 30th, 2012
12:41 am

Well it’s a given Hanson’s a drag on the whole staff; my question again is with the offense. So many games scoring 2 runs and wasting base runners. Fredi’s said he won’t be patient like last year and will sit the non-producers. But what do you do when your 2nd baseman and catcher have underperformed all season, your leadoff man’s BA has been dropping steadily for weeks, and consistency is lacking team-wide. Without some Heyward long balls and clutch hits from Janish of all people, we’d be in even worse shape.

Semper Fi Braves fan

August 30th, 2012
12:52 am

Tommy Hanson is seemingly getting worse and worse. It’s obvious that his frustration at himself is effecting his play on the field. Shut him down or send him down.

Flip side is it appears that Julio Teheran is having Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Hyde type games. He either dominates in shut outs with 8~10k’s or he has command issues and gets rocked early. At this point I am ready to start seeing the kid that has been untouchable for trades the past 2 years.

Bring him up, let him take his lumps, I can accept a rook to get knocked around.

TuffShhhtuff

August 30th, 2012
12:56 am

AND I thank both “Davids”. Thank you both very much just for being nice enough to thank each other. This is a “thankless” world and we all should thank each other every minute of every day. As Elvis would have said, “Thank you, thank you very much”!

Steve

August 30th, 2012
12:58 am

Tommy Hanson=2012 Derek Lowe

Jimbo Jones

August 30th, 2012
1:01 am

All I have to say is, “Martin in the 5 hole”? Total nonsense. There is no reason whatsoever to move him out of the 2 hole. I don’t hate Fredi like most around these parts, but that’s plain rediculous.

Semper Fi Braves fan

August 30th, 2012
1:04 am

Even ESPN has taken note of how bad Hanson has gotten….

MLB – Hanson fastball issues persist

The issues with Tommy Hanson’s fastball continued on Wednesday. Hanson’s fastball effectiveness has declined as his fastball velocity has decreased. On Wednesday, opponents recorded 5 hits in 11 at-bats ending in fastball.

Semper Fi Braves Fan

August 30th, 2012
1:12 am

Hanson
2012 League Ranks:
• 7th in NL in BB (61)

Meatloaf vs Porkchops

August 30th, 2012
2:09 am

Just more excuse’s why lose to a San diego team that like dodgers just worst ask SF sweep them n rockies But UsNo we get freddi G asswipe excuse of a Manager again Yankees make no excuse’s if lose to Blue jays we stunk up again and manager takes heat good thin freddi is not with real sports writers will brains…..this team will not catch Nats will win divison backin in cause if we did tie Nats at end ..They would win east cause of record vs Us in season….and we would lose to St.louis 16-0 in one game wild card hear..get see atlanta get wrote up with just 24,000 show up for one game wild card here …..they all ready play before empty seats so no bigger Frank wren will run away hide after lost sayin…What happen n of course ajc staff will bend over with no hard questions why we blew it!

jj

August 30th, 2012
3:31 am

Either Fredi does not have a clue or he is letting the Players run this TEAM.Hanson and jj

clay

August 30th, 2012
4:01 am

I think this was his last start. He may get one more chance, just because Sheets will still be coming back from the DL.

clay

August 30th, 2012
4:01 am

I would package a deal with hanson jj and a couple of minor leaguers for a bat.

MaSSaHH

August 30th, 2012
4:11 am

Thanks DOB for the quotes.

This one is really on Fruti. Second and third with NO outs in the top of the fifth inning and you let Hanson bat? EVERYONE knew Hanson has been battling from pitch one. As it turned out, Hanson struck and then Fruti had to replace Hanson ANYWAY in the bottom of the fith inning. Fruti, the bullpen was quite fresh AND you have an OFFday. It’s time for Fruti to go back managing where he belongs…. that is third base coach.

SeptemberSwoon

August 30th, 2012
5:10 am

Braves will be lucky to win 1 game this weekend against the Phils

Kyle

August 30th, 2012
5:43 am

Two days from September…..It’s time to go in the toilet.

Bill M.

August 30th, 2012
5:56 am

Can’t wait until this off season to get rid of the ones that’s not performing. I would start with Hanson, Uggla, McCann & Venters. I’m worried about Venter’s, something is not right with him. It’s a must to get rid of some of these players if the Braves have a chance to sign Bourn. I would not over pay him. They have to get a power arm. This next homestand will determine if the Braves gets in playoff’s.

BRAVESFAN

August 30th, 2012
6:01 am

Hanson is done for the season. He only lasted this long because he was getting lucky and some run support before. We just can’t throw away games at the end of the season to protect a players ego. I like any replacement player to fill in for anyone who is a negative right now.

RBI

August 30th, 2012
6:37 am

Hanson is not good enough to pitch batting practice.

ph

August 30th, 2012
6:42 am

I think the Braves got the wrong Tom Hanson. Johnny Depp in 21 Jump Street would have been a much better find.

Jerry in Tennessee

August 30th, 2012
7:01 am

“We dropped a fly ball. That is going to happen” Seriously Fredi? In the Major Leagues? “We felt like we had a chance to win the series with Tommy on the mound.” Seriously Fredi? “Our offense is ok. We’ve got a pretty good offense.” Seriously Fredi? Which game did you watch?

jasons shrinking waist

August 30th, 2012
7:47 am

I would rather stick pins in my eyeballs than watch Tommy Hanson pitch again.
Hes such a woose. Pathetic
Did you see him bat in the top of the inning? Completely resigned to strikeout and go sit down…then comes out and doesnt bend over to pick up a bunt….
What a freakin spineless loser this guy is.
He ALWAYS ruins any rallys the braves offense puts up by giving it all back the next inning.
Dump this clown.
At least Sheets gives you a little bull dog in him; competiveness
This guy has as much competiveness as a girl scout.

TN Jacket

August 30th, 2012
7:50 am

Chipper is a defensive liability. He is getting to balls in time and then just plain missing them!
Hanson, Uggla and McCann need to be in Pearl. Johnson and Ross need to start every game. Whenever Freddy says “Those things happen”, it is usually because they happened TO us not FOR us!
Same old BS. The Braves have never been well-coached in fundamentals: bunting, base running, throwing to the right base, etc. NEVER!
And so it goes… At least College football starts tonight!

Peachtree John

August 30th, 2012
7:51 am

Hanson has to go. Until he goes, the team will be tight and waiting on something else to go wrong as long as he is around. Bless his heart. Hope he will change his delivery and remove that hesitation so that base runners are half way to the next base before he turns the ball loose.

fordcobra

August 30th, 2012
7:58 am

I smell something and it ain’t pretty.

?

August 30th, 2012
8:08 am

THIS PILE OF CUBAN CRAP HAS AN EXCUSE FOR EVERYTHING. EVERY TIME TURD HANSON PITCHES WE LOSE. YOU WOULD THINK SOMEBODY WOULD GET A CLUE. DOG TURD HAMSON MAKES ME WANT TO PUKE. I BELIEVE I COULD STEAL ON HIM IN A WHEEL CHAIR. THIS WHOLE TEAM MAKES ME SICK.

alex

August 30th, 2012
8:12 am

Hanson is done for the season, like last year. Perhaps his balistic delivery puts a significant strain on his shoulder and by august his rotator cuff is inflammed and AA material. As for the fielding,should not happen,NO excuse, for a team in the hunt for the playoffs… Can’t wait for Simmons to return: sit Uggla, prado to 2nd and here we go;treading water now….

Good Grief Charlie Brown

August 30th, 2012
8:14 am

an ugly loss to end an even uglier road trip.

hey Fredi, any question now about who should go to the bullpen for long relief?

mountain_jim

August 30th, 2012
8:22 am

I would have pitch hit for Yanish with the bases loaded, knowing down that much that late his defense was not worth keeping him in for in that situation.

I agree with all who see that Hanson is done, and I don’t want to watch him pitch anymore either. I prefer Delgado by a long shot.

Dawg Fan in Grayson

August 30th, 2012
8:32 am

Jerry in Tenn. I totally agree with your comments. Fredi really acts like he has no clue. You don’t drop popups in the major leagues…. never. Offensively this team struggles too many games…I think they average getting shut out once a week so Fredi its not just the Padres pitching staff.

I think Hanson is a wreck physically….he is just not strong enough for some reason.

ijudgenot

August 30th, 2012
8:35 am

I too am worried about Venters. Remember he came out of nowhere two years ago throwing a 95 mph slider that the bottom would drop out as it got to the plate. The problem was he did not know what was making it do that. He was just throwing it to the plate with no idea where it was going. Now that pitch is not having the bottom fall out at the plate. It is staying on plane and is getting hit hard by hitters. Whatever pitching coach in the minors that helped him develope the slider from two years ago, should be called up with the September call ups to help him. Hanson should be shut down for the year and examined for arm or back injury. Whatever physical problem that has reduced the mph on his fastball to 88mph has to be fixed. He does not have the control of Medlen. He can’t pitch in the major leagues without a fastball that he can throw by hitters. His off speed pitches are A level and can only work if hitters are looking for a 92-95mph fastball.

PMC

August 30th, 2012
8:37 am

Well, I’ve just about seen enough of Tommy Hanson to know I don’t think he’s a long term answer here. He’s going to have to relearn how to pitch. His velocity probably isn’t coming back, and his fastballs are just about BP at this point. He’s a half the season kind of pitcher.

Probably time to shut him down for the year

PMC

August 30th, 2012
8:39 am

I don’t think they are too tired, I just think this is the offensive group that we have.

There isn’t going to be any consistency in the lineup until Uggla starts producing when he’s in the lineup.

Buddy Landel

August 30th, 2012
8:55 am

If this team makes you sick, why do you watch, post, listen, etc.?????

Philly Phanatic

August 30th, 2012
9:14 am

Someone said Braves will be lucky to win one game against Phil’s this weekend. May be right. You couldn’t have gotten a worse draw. Halladay, Lee, and Hammels. They’re all pitching very well right now. Once again it may be the Phil’s responsible for your undoing

Philly Phanatic

August 30th, 2012
9:19 am

What happened to Beechy? Maybe this is my bad and he’s been pitching all along but I get the Braves games every night and can’t recall his name. He’s probably 12 – 3 and I’ve just missed seeing his name. He and Hudson were /are your best starters.

jl

August 30th, 2012
9:20 am

Chipper looked like a rookie out there, gotta be a little more sense of urgency, don’t you think?

Hesitating Hanson, has lost whatever he had (which was not much) and needs to go to bullpen for 1 or 2 innings of work.

How did Uggla do, Oh Yeah, not worth a shyte. What a Big Big Mistake in signing him. He is peaking just at the right time NOT!

Wish he would just sit on bench and draw his huge paychecks until he fades from sight, PLEASE !

jl

August 30th, 2012
9:23 am

I said yesterday, why in the world would you not play Prado at SS, and play Freeman? Fredi is an idiot, who would anyone rather see up to the plate with the bases loaded, Janish, or Freeman, well we got Janish and he did not disappoint, proceeded to pop out, WOW what a idiotic decision by probably the worse manager in Minor or Major leagues.

jl

August 30th, 2012
9:25 am

Hey Phillie Stupid, Beechy went out 3 months ago Tommy John Surgery

ijudgenot

August 30th, 2012
9:30 am

The Braves organization has put a little too much emphasis on clubhouse bliss at the expense of a deep bench. Over the recent years they have let players who were great individuals be a part of their bench instead of younger players who could provide better bench strength. The Braves for years have been lefthanded hitter heavy. Each year they have tried to rely on one righthanded power hitter(Gaus, Uglla) and Chipper from right side to provide balance. Gaus and Uggla with Chipper provided that balance for about one month when they got hot but the rest of the season was lefthanded heavy and managers took advantage like Boche has done for the last two series. To get more power on the bench and have a replacement for Chipper when he needed rest, Wren traded for Francisco. They already had Henski a lefthanded hitter who plays third and first on the bench. Henski is a great team player who is has good comraderie with other players but it would have made more sense to trade or release him and bring up on of the power righthanded hitters in the minors(Gattis,Gartrell or Mejia). Diaz is a great guy also but never was the answer to combat lefthanders. No one wants a player who can become a cancer to be on the team, but all the players don’t have to be golf or hunting buddies either. The only minor league position players that they have given half a chance to besides Pastornicky and Simmons has been Constanza and he too is lefthanded. Why not give Gattis, Gartrell or Mejia a chance like they have done with the pitchers Minor,Delgado, Vavarro, Guerrin and Teheran. If they fail then I am sure they are not ou of options so you send them back down.

Rick C

August 30th, 2012
9:36 am

jl, if Freeman were playing he wouldn’t have batted eighth. Janish coming up with the bases loaded is a moot point.

jl

August 30th, 2012
9:40 am

Rick C: My point was Janish needs to get hits or his defense alone will not carry his position. Surely someone in our organization can play SS and get a hit once in a awhile. And maybe, just maybe Freeman gets single, double triple, or home run in one of his at bats, Janish, nothing!!!

Sonny Jackson

August 30th, 2012
9:43 am

Just disappointing to see the same lineup day after day… it’s not working. Get rid of the deadwood and let someone with a little have a shot. We surely can’t do any worse!

Semper Fi Braves Fan

August 30th, 2012
9:48 am

If Freeman would have pinch hit for Janish, Prado could have moved to SS. Doesn’t really matter what possition in the line up it is. Bases were loaded late in the game and someone with a .200 battig average showed why he bats 8th.

Rick C

August 30th, 2012
9:49 am

jl, Pastornicky is really the only other option within the organization, and we all know how he performs at SS.

Semper Fi Braves Fan

August 30th, 2012
9:56 am

Pastornicky has an average glove, and an extremely weak arm. Simmons will be back in the next week or so. (hopefully soon enough)

wrestler

August 30th, 2012
10:00 am

No what is sad about Fredi is that if you watched his interview on tv about Tommy Hanson and how many starts he has had since coming back from rehab. Fredi asks the announcer how many starts has he had 2 or 3? Really Fredi, you don’t even know how many starts your pitcher had since coming back. Sad, Sad, Sad, when the manager is not sure about what his players are doing.

Barbara

August 30th, 2012
10:18 am

Fredi stinks Hanson is not the pitcher he once was you have to know when to take him out. Quit running Venters out there he needs to go. We will never get to the playoffs when our hitting is so inconsistent. Prado batting fifth are you serious put him back batting second. We need to get back to the basics of baseball. Unfortunately we have to finish the season with Fredi the freeloader

Barbara

August 30th, 2012
10:18 am

Fredi stinks Hanson is not the pitcher he once was you have to know when to take him out. Quit running Venters out there he needs to go. We will never get to the playoffs when our hitting is so inconsistent. Prado batting fifth are you serious put him back batting second. We need to get back to the basics of baseball. Unfortunately we have to finish the season with Fredi the freeloader

Dan Uggla's Swing

August 30th, 2012
10:48 am

@Semper Fi Braves fan – So we are going to keep running him out there every 5th day.

Why not, thats what Bobby did, and everybody just thought that was great! I loved Bobby and I hated a lot of decisions he made. Fredi is a carbon copy, except he is terrible at public speaking, which makes him sound dumb. I dont think by any stretch he is an idiot. Yeah, putting a pitcher out there that is underperforming is a managers decision, but you have to believe that Hanson can come through sooner or later. If you look at the scoreboard over the last 10 games offense has been the key problem, cant blame Fredi for the team not hitting. If they struggle against good pitching now, how do you think they will do in the playoffs?

Let's Go

August 30th, 2012
10:59 am

I’m not saying the sky is falling but going into September, I’m worried. The next 7 games are against red hot teams (Phils, Rockies) and then it’s back on the road to NY and Milwaukee and then 3 at home against the Nats. It’s time at this point for them to Man Up during this 16 game period and win no less than 10 games. Going 12 and 4 would make me feel a lot better. At this point it really looks like the wildcard is going to be between the Braves, Cardinals, Dodgers and maybe the Pirates but the Cardinals do have 7 games coming up against the Nationals so that could benefit the Braves one way or another depending on the outcome.

Curt

August 30th, 2012
11:01 am

Tommy Hanson is the worst starter on this team and probably the worst pitcher overall. I base this not even on his results which I am sure somone might suggest that his win total means he is a decent pitcher. Hanson has very poor mechanics and they have gotten worse as he has tried to fix his control problems. His mechanics allow base runners to steal pretty much at will. I bet even McCann could steal on Hanson.

And while his mechanics and results (poor location) are enough to suggest that the Braves dont need him, I think his attitude is worse. Maybe it’s just the way he tries to cope but it appears that Hanson just does not care. And to top it off, Hanson at the plate is worse than Hanson on the mound. It looks to me like he has given up before he takes one swing and then walks away like he could care less.

I would sit Hanson and not put him in another game unless I had run out of pitcher or was up by enough runs that even he couldn’t mess it up.

Largo

August 30th, 2012
11:25 am

Does anyone really think this team is going to the playoffs? If so, forget it.

And Uggla Strikes Out

August 30th, 2012
11:31 am

We had a real chance to close the gap on the Gnats to being just 2 games back, but our sorry excuse for an offense couldn’t get the job done. Still making almost every left hander that faces us look like Sandy Koufax. Our last best hope: get Hanson out of the rotation, get Delgado back into the rotation, get Simmons back into the lineup, and sit Uggla if the man cannot produce. The Gnats can be caught – their recent tailspin proved that – but we have to play like every game is a playoff game from here on out. I don’t like the odds of our holding off both the Cardinals and the Dodgers for the wildcard.

JNick

August 30th, 2012
11:33 am

Philly Phanatic – you should know your own team – we get Halladay, Lee and sickly Hamels (whose name you misspelled btw). We’ve worn Halladay out in 2 starts this year (8.74 ERA), historically done well against Lee (3-2 against him over the last 3 years) and Hamels was good in one start against us this year, and bad in the other two, and is coming off an illness….

Finished

August 30th, 2012
11:53 am

Anyone have Terry Francona’s phone #, Fredi sucks!

Reality Check

August 30th, 2012
11:57 am

The Braves need to quit giving the props to the Big League Pitchers and act like Big League Hitters. Good At-Bats move runners, put points on the board.

It does nothing to swing at the first pitch to fly out. Seeing 7 or 8 pitches in an at-bat then strike out or fly out, equals no production, not a good at-bat. Trying to hit with uppercut swings hoping for a solo-shot only to fly out, equals no production, not a good at-bat.

I for one am tired of seeing batter after batter guessing where the ball might be and swinging and missing. Good hitters can hit the ball if the can reach it no matter where it is. Why? Because they don’t guess at where it will be, they watch the ball until it makes contact and put it in play.

Time to get back to basics in the cage boys!

iggy

August 30th, 2012
12:01 pm

Chippy, as he is referred too in the gay community, is more intersted in taking long soothing baths with his daddy than he is in playing baseball.

At best, Chippy is and always has been mediocre.

Finished

August 30th, 2012
12:01 pm

Simpson and Carey said in last Nats. game , Nats will have a losing streak. Right they were, 5 game losing streak. During the same period the Braves lost 6. This team is pathetic just like last year. Oh, this is last years team(almost).

[...] Dan Uggla, .069 Least Valuable Brave: Tommy Hanson, 35 game score Big plays: 4th more… Braves quotes after Wednesday’s loss to Padres – blogs.ajc.com 08/30/2012 FREDI GONZALEZ On the sloppy 5th inning and the [...]

iggy

August 30th, 2012
1:13 pm

At best, Chippy is and always has been mediocre.

I’m sorry Chipper, I was just mad because you wouldn’t take a bath with me. I love you Chipper and want to have your baby after I get my sex change operation.

Bro

August 30th, 2012
1:49 pm

Good teams play good and bad teams play bad. Braves are not a good team. They lack consistency and ability to make adjustments in all areas.
Hansen’s fast ball has gone from near 100 mph befoe he made the majors to about 88 mph. Just a little better than batting practice. Can’t trade him as no one wants another has been pitcher-they are a dime a dozen and managemen refuses to allow Delgado and Tehran to play in the big leagues. That Cox influence is still the rule for adding players. Why else would Bautisa be on this team. Can’t help those teams that refuse to help themselves. Another looser in the making.

BillEGoat

August 30th, 2012
1:52 pm

Before next season, the Braves need to do something about their huge weakness against LH pitchers, both starters and relief guys–have trouble against virtually ANY LH’er. EVERY other manager knows this by now. McCann used to hit lefties OK. Now, he hits NO pitcher that well. Jason and Freddy have much lower BA’s against lefties, and so does Bourn, who has a LOT of K’s against lefties. Uggla actually has a lifetime BA almost 20 points lowe against lefties than against RH’ers. This whole problem needs to be addressed.

ChipperisGod

August 30th, 2012
1:53 pm

Sense of urgency was not there last night. Great D by Mike B, but the guys looks tired. That fifth inning was inexcusable. Just gotta get some things going better offensively. Hopefully we rebound and take Philly, but Halladay and Lee back to back is sure going to be tough. Especially since Lee is a LHP. We have smoked the Doc this year, I hope that continues.

We must do better against hitting LHP. We just look hopeless up there. We have the talent to be able to hit LHP better, but we just can’t seem to do anything against them for the most part.

I think the off day is the best medicine for this team. A couple of incredibly tough losses on the road trip in Washington and SF, and yesterday was just ugly. Night before was ugly too minus Medlen.

Get an off day in, relax clear their heads mentally, and we should be ok. Gotta take all series from here on out. We should be 5-2 after Philly and Rockies series at the least. Gotta beat the Nats and Pirates down the stretch. Now is the time to really step up, and prove last year is a fluke. The Braves can be a 90+ win team if they play their best baseball.

Difference between last year is we have a very competent pitching staff minus Hanson (who needs to go and gets crushed all the time). The other guys have been good to excellent for the most part, and the resurgence of Minor has been fantastic. Our offense is better too even though Uggla is struggling and Janish, while he has been clutch at times is still an offensive liability. McCann is still cold, Bourn is scuffling and Freddie and Jason can’t handle LHP. Seems like Chipper and Prado are the only ones that can consistently put it together at the moment, although J-Hey has been awesome lately.

Let’s rebound and play our best ball. We can do it, I believe in this team. The potential is there, just gotta put it together.

Go Braves!

Semper Fi Braves Fan

August 30th, 2012
2:25 pm

Even Chipper Jones .130ish batting average during the road trip and 4 double plays he hit in to (in 6 games) was abysmal.

Felix

August 30th, 2012
2:35 pm

The sounds of the Braves last night:

Arf arf arf

Bow wow

Bark Bark

Uggla

August 30th, 2012
2:41 pm

What are you fans complaining about? I hit a long homer on Tuesday. What else do you want?
Now I’m gonna go see Bibi and with her action I won’t be worrying about baseball.
By the way, I’m better than you guys anyway. Bet you don’t make $13 million per year.

Uggla

August 30th, 2012
5:05 pm

And another thing, I resent that I have to get up and walk to the batter’s box and take three swings or pop up to make an out. I don’t know why I can’t just sit on the bench and have the ump just call me out without me having to go to all that trouble. My beer gets warm during this time, and I have to go back into the clubhouse and get one that’s cold.

Mike The Tike

August 30th, 2012
5:29 pm

Chipper : “Some guys are tired.” Whoa. What guys ? Everyone of the starters had at least one day off and Chipper missed most of the games…

BravesBanter31

August 30th, 2012
5:51 pm

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Lowe's Ghost

August 30th, 2012
6:27 pm

Fredi trotting Hanson out there time and time again will be the same thing as Lowe essentially losing the Braves a chance to be in the playoffs…not that they would have done anything once they got there! Will be interesting to see whether FG has the sack to bench the right players and play the right combination. This is just one of the many things that FG has proven he is terrible at doing….playing to win! Like Booby Cox, he is more concerned with the clubhouse chemistry than winning. Can’t always have it both ways Fredo!!

Around The Horn

August 30th, 2012
6:31 pm

FREDI’S DECISIONS

I didn’t like Fredi’s decision yesterday to pitch to the Padres best hitter, Chase Headley, who’s presently on a tear and could well be elected NL player of the month, with men on 2nd and 3rd and first base open.

The result: Headley drove in 2 runs.

Nor did I like Fredi’s decision to let Janish hit with the bases loaded with the Braves behind and desperately needing some runs.

The result: A Janish pop up.

bobbymahlon

August 30th, 2012
7:08 pm

It seems like we always have to pick on one poor player and this week it is Hanson.
I agree Freddi should have pinch hit for Yanish.
I also agree and keep saying bring up Gattis and Mejia for right hand power from off the bench.
At this point I think we ought to bring up Delgado for a trial start.
It could be very interesting what with us trying to beat out St Louis, Pittsburg and LA Dodgers to get into that God awful one play in game.

64 year Ct. Braves fan

August 30th, 2012
7:14 pm

I can’t stand watching Hanson pitch. Always going to long counts, has a funky delivery that takes forever to get to the plate. That looping, hanging 78 mph curveball is like batting practice to major
league hitters. Can we deal him, Uggla, and McCann for a r.h. hitting speedy outfielder in the offseason?

Amber Girl

August 30th, 2012
7:43 pm

How ironic. Hammels sick Wed. Got well real fast. Saved for Braves Sunday. MONEY TALKS.

sheeesh

August 30th, 2012
10:51 pm

MONEY TALKS? What does that mean?

coach k

August 31st, 2012
9:22 am

Well the Braves are all saying the right things… The playoff begin this weekend!!!! This team now has to play like every games means something ..cause they do. that means playing with attitude, playing exceptional defense, and playing with an offensive mindset… So Fredi understands, that means small ball from the FIRST INNING!!!!! This team is good enough to take it all, now its up to them to go out there and make it happen….GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BRAVES SEND THE MESSAGE TONIGHT POUND THESE PHILLIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Preston Thompson

August 31st, 2012
10:00 am

This debacle is so much a mirror image of last year and Lowe. Is the same thing in the making? Freddie says he learned not to be so patient from last years mess. Really? Also I’m starting to think Chipper’s age is affecting his thinking capacity. His decisions are really causing a problem.

BravesBanter31

August 31st, 2012
12:17 pm

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[...] According to Tommy it is or at least it isn’t bad  After last night’s loss – his second consecutive outing of less than five innings – Hanson told David O’Brien of the AJC: [...]

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