Braves quotes after Tuesday’s win against Padres

**KRIS MEDLEN

On how that felt

“I rarely get a chance to pitch in front of my family. It was special. It was cool.”

How many were here?

“Oh, God. I have a buttload of cousins. Third, fourth, fifth ones that I talk to still. They were all there. My wife’s here. It was cool. I had a couple of coaches here too.”

On Chipper’s RBI in first inning

“First half-inning, it’s great to get on the board. We only got two, but still it’s a big one once you’re trying to go back out there for your first inning with the lead already. So it was huge.”

Any pressure with the scoreless-innings streak?

“It doesn’t matter to me. We’re winning games. That’s all that really matters. When you start worrying about stuff like that, that’s when you start getting off your plan and off focus. So I just want to stay focused and take it a start at a time, and whatever other cliché I can say. One pitch at a time.”

On starting instead of relieving

“I keep saying the same things, but I love the game, I love trying to out-think guys and out-pitch hitters, and catch them trying to look for something and you throw something else…. That’s what I live for. That’s what I’ve done my entire life. I’ve learned so much from so many different people, and I’m just trying to put it all together and figure it out.”

On being in bullpen first half of season, you look at it as, what might I have done starting? Or say, maybe I’m fresher now?

“Yeah, I look at it that way. But also, I could have been in Strasburg’s situation where I could have gotten shut down. I’m lucky to be in this situation. When I was in the bullpen I did my best, and now that I’m starting I’m going to try to do my best. So far it’s working. There’s still a month and however many days left. We’ve got a long eway to go, and hopefully we just continue to keep playing well.”

On the pickoff moves

“I noticed the last start that we had a couple of guys steal some bases, and I didn’t even look at them. I didn’t even try picking over. So I just wanted to try to pay attention more to that and kind of vary my times, and it worked out for me twice. It was good.”

On the funny video that fan Ricky Mast posted on Twitter about him starting

“I didn’t want to retweet it; that’d be pretty narcissistic. But it’s awesome. I can’t … I got a video made for me. It’s awesome. The Chipper one was good, and this one is good too. He’s a talented dude and creative, so it’s cool.”

More on the pickoff move, quick feet

“When I was a shortstop I was good at baseball. [laughter]  That’s one thing that stuck with me, my quick feet. You guys have been around me enough to know I can’t really hold still, so that’s just one of those quick things that I’ve developed and it’s helped me control the run game so far in my career. It was something I tried to utilize today because they were getting early leads.”

**FREDI GONZALEZ

On Medlen securing spot in rotation

“I could have told you that two or three starts ago. He’s terrific. He does everything you want a starting pitcher to do. Hopefully there’s young players out there watching him pitch. He gets the ball back and fires. He hold runners. He fields his position. He can bunt, hit-and-run. He does a lot of stuff.”

“He’s another guy that pitches like he’s in the back yard. He’s having fun. He goes after hitters and nothing fazes him. We’re glad to have him in the rotation.”

On the pickoffs

“I don’t think I’ve seen two pickoffs by a right-handed pitcher in a long time. He almost had three, because he almost picked off Headley in the first inning. He does a lot of good stuff.”

On Uggla’s homer

“He hung a breaking ball or a change-up, and he hit it a long way. Good for him. Somebody told me it was 1,000 hits? What a way to do it. A guy that hits a lot of home runs, to get his 1,000th hit on a home run, that’s great.”

On Kimbrel pitching the ninth

“We got him a save situation there. We were hoping that somebody would put up a three- or four-spot there in the ninth. We didn’t tell Kimbrel he was going out in the ninth, until obviously we had to pinch-hit. Because we were hoping if somebody makes it 4-nothing, I was thinking about running [Medlen] back out there. He has pitched and earned that, for him to go back out there in a complete-game shutout. But no, we try to add on runs, you’ve got to pinch-hit Francisco, then you’ve got arguably the best closer in the game, you’ve got to give him the ball. Because if you don’t in a 2-run game, now you’re bringing him in with men on and he’s not used to doing that and it gets complicated after that. So it’s good for him to get the blood flowing in that situation.”

On Chipper providing 1-run lead in 1st

“And [Padres pitcher Werner] settled down. They’ve got a good pitching staff, and they match us off the bullpen. They do a hell of a job, with Layne and the other others, they’re all funky and they all throw different pitches for strikes. They’re tough. That’s why they won eight in a row.”

On Smoltz commenting recently that Medlen was fearless

“That’s a good word, yeah. He’s not afraid of anything or any situation. He’s having fun. That’s a nice trait to have. He’s on the mound having fun.”

** DAN UGGLA

On getting a long homer for his 1,000th career hit

“It felt good. You look up seven years later and it’s hard to believe it’s actually been that long and I’ve accumulated that many hits. Pretty cool thing to do. Lets you kind of put some perspective on what guys like Pete Rose and Ichiro and Chipper and all those guys, Paul Molitor – it lets you know how hard it is to get to the numbers that they’ve gotten to.”

And it was a pretty big hit tonight

“Yeah, that was cool. I haven’t gotten into one like that in a while. It was cool. It felt good.”

You said yesterday that you’ve felt good; was this a continuation of that progress?

“Yeah, I think so. I feel fine. I’m not going to hit .300; 30 [homers] is going to be a stretch. So I’m just concentrating on being that kind of player from here on out and pulling my weight.”

On Medlen

“He’s been unbelievable. I remember facing him [when Uggla was a Marlinl] and it wasn’t fun back then, either. He goes out and knows what he has to do, and he executes. He’s got that great change-up and he puts his pitches where he wants them. To have that kind of control, that’s a great tool to have.”

Does team feed off Medlen’s energy when he’s pitching?

“Yeah, he’s an outgoing, funny guy as everybody knows. He stays loose out there. That keeps us loose. He works fast and just dominates.”

**FREDDIE FREEMAN

On Medlen’s pickoff move

“I know little tendencies when [the pitchers] are coming over. I’ve got to stay on my toes over there, because Med’s really quick. I’ve never seen anybody quicker than Med. And he seems to always put it right where he needs to to give us a chance to get them out. He makes every play over there close.”

On how Medlen is pitching

“We know he’s going to go out there and throw strikes. He’s got a Bugs Bunny change-up, so when he can locate and throw the change-up like he does, and sneak in a curveball every once in a while, that’s why he’s been so successful.”

“It’s a long road trip, long flights and everything like that. And the way Med came out and pitched, it gives us a little breather. We can just go out there and play. Chipper and Uggs gave us enough for Med to go out there and go eight strong, and hopefully we’re going to end the road trip on a positive note tomorrow.”

91 comments Add your comment

Genesis

August 29th, 2012
2:10 am

Zac in Tempe

August 29th, 2012
2:11 am

Great game by Medlen. Glad Fredi kept in the ‘pen so long, having him sit out Sep/Oct like Strasburg would have been rough.

mistermak

August 29th, 2012
2:37 am

It is like watching Greg Maddux all over again! I’ll bet even Greg is very impressed with Medlin! And he seems like such a ‘down to earth dude” too. The Braves better give him a long term deal!!!

Fredo

August 29th, 2012
2:37 am

If this team could somehow start the season with 8 Prados’, 5 Medlens’, and 1 Kimbrel you’d have MLB’s first ever perfect season

Darryl Blackberry

August 29th, 2012
3:25 am

This is how Greg Maddux would’ve pitched at that age, given a north-south strike zone as opposed to the east-west one he so famously worked. I’ve never seen a guy throw sub-90 mph four-seamers and dominate quite like Kris.

Around The Horn

August 29th, 2012
3:38 am

Another great effort by Kris!

Well done!

PaulG

August 29th, 2012
5:53 am

Aunt blabbys…where are you today?……remember to criticize all the players who didn’t get a hit…..and another manager would have led the braves to a 10-0 win……fire ferdi!……oh yes, recall earlier in the year when some of you were down on medlin & how ferdi & wren were handling him

Chas

August 29th, 2012
6:43 am

Fredi : “I could have told you two or three starts ago, he’s (Medlen) is terrific.” Typical Fredi G. always late to what’s happening. A lot of bloggers have been screaming for months, to get Medlen into the rotation. As asual, Fredi just figured it out a couple weeks ago.. The guy is clueless. Completely clueless.

Larry

August 29th, 2012
7:21 am

Chas,

Touché.

He has my nomination for the most unintuitive, dumbest manager in all of sports…should be coaching 3rd base somewhere. This team easily has 10 more wins YTD with a Girardi or Francona in our dugout.

crm300

August 29th, 2012
8:02 am

How’s that plan to put Medlen back in the bullpen working out??

bravesgrl4life

August 29th, 2012
8:11 am

We’ve got a Glavine-like pitcher (Minor) and a Maddux-like pitcher (Medlen). Can we find a Smoltz-like pitcher? Would be nice. Maybe history will repeat itself!

bruce

August 29th, 2012
8:20 am

what is a Bugs Bunny change-up?

southgabrave

August 29th, 2012
8:25 am

Smoltz like pitcher was Beachy before he went out.

Medlen pitched another great game.

Fredi, I have a question for you. If you are going to put Janish in for defense, which I understand, why in the world would you not take Uggla out and move Prado to his natural position? That would have strenthen 2b also and left Johnson in the game too. Another questionable move by Fredi! It weaken his offense in a close game, strenthen his SS position but left a questionable defensive player at 2b.

If anyone still thinks Fredi is a major league managerase explain it to me.

Good game by the Bravos.

Virginia Brave Fan

August 29th, 2012
8:45 am

http://youtu.be/-EF91gJ6D0E

The above link is the Rick Mast video, which is awesome. Highly recommend you watch it. Meds was outstanding last night. 17 straight wins in a row when he starts. Incredible.

Lobosolo

August 29th, 2012
8:48 am

Poor Larry…

Larry

August 29th, 2012
8:55 am

Moring Lob!

Saw you yesterday spinning round and round for 20 minutes in that revolving door looking for the door knob.

Larry

August 29th, 2012
8:55 am

Lobosolo

August 29th, 2012
8:56 am

PaulG, can you believe these guys? Braves sitting on more wins than all but four teams, now…. must be a fluke according to this crew… When you mix folks with no baseball knowledge and, in Limpy’s case, a deluded sense of same, you have the perfect blueprint for blubbering hysteria, or in Lumpbat’s case, delusional grandeur… sgb, borrow the J-MAN’s “Baseball for Dummies” book and try to keep up…

You tell ‘em armchairs… Larrhoid, watch you don’t break your head on the wall!!! LOL! What a maroon!

Lobosolo

August 29th, 2012
8:58 am

Where should you be managing, Laaaaaaaaarrrrryyyyy?

Lobosolo

August 29th, 2012
9:03 am

Larry, with all of the high-priced talent the Yanks have, why do they have a nearly identical record as the Braves? Franconna? The one who had such a grip on his own set of high-priced players that they stooped to holding chicken-eating card games in the clubhouse during games and watched their manager walk away? That leader of men?

Quack Quack

August 29th, 2012
9:06 am

The Braves seem to be doing much better on their “Meds”!!

@bruce….I think it’s the one that when it lands in the catchers glove, the batter says “uh, whats up doc?”

Lets keep rollin, and take advantage of this Gnats slump.

GO BRAVES!!!

billy bob baseball

August 29th, 2012
9:09 am

southgabrave
August 29th, 2012
8:25 am
Fredi, I have a question for you. If you are going to put Janish in for defense, which I understand, why in the world would you not take Uggla out and move Prado to his natural position?
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Because with Prado playing second, he makes the routine plays that uggla can’t, and the game isn’t as exciting. Same reason he keeps “running danny out there.” With an automatic out in the lineup, they don’t score as many runs, which keeps the games close, and more exciting. Benching uggla, like any manager who has a baseball IQ over room temp would do, would give us 2-3 more runs a game, allow us to run away with the division, and would just take away all the excitement of watching a potentially great team just be mediocre. You see fredi is just an under appreciated genius, always thinking of us fans, always thinking of ways to make the games and the pennant race a nail biter.

Larry

August 29th, 2012
9:13 am

DumbDumb,

“That leader of men” led his storied team to their first world series title in a century; he then followed it up with a second!

Too bad for you there is no vaccine to prevent stupidity.

alex

August 29th, 2012
9:38 am

Gotta admit lobo is quite a character; the fun uncle, the entertaining drunk,the flamboyant cousin….

Rebel Brave

August 29th, 2012
9:43 am

What’s the Bugs Bunny change up? You must be under 40 years old… :-) In one cartoon where Bugs Bunny is pitching he strikes out three guys on one pitch, a very slow change up!

wowOwow

August 29th, 2012
9:43 am

How come this blog has like 20/50 pages when we lose, but when we win only 24 comments? Sad *shakes head*

Rebel Brave

August 29th, 2012
9:51 am

reckingball

August 29th, 2012
9:53 am

@9:43am………Yeah, and 5 of those comments are negative Fredi posts, with another 9 being insult barrages from 3 of the people participating on this page.

southgabrave

August 29th, 2012
10:09 am

billy bob baseball

That must be it, because as a manager he is an idiot. Really glad he takes us fans into consideration. it would have been a boring season I guess.

Why Fredi can’t run the best 8 out on the field in a pennant chase is beyond me! Put the same line-up out there for more than 2 days in row for goodness sakes. He can’t say it is because we are facing a left or righty on the mound. We had 4 lefty bats and 5 righty, counting Medlen last night against a lefty. He thinks he has to run a lefty/righty alternation in the lineup, but runs 2 guys out there that aren’t hitting lefties at all (Uggs and BMac)

Janish is hitting better than Uggla, he at least puts the ball in play. Uggla goes 1/4 with 3, THREE strikeouts. Fredi will talk about the HR and say he is coming around. He hasn’t come around all year! We have pitchers hitting better than Uggla. BMac is hurting and Fredi still sends him out there to face a lefty instead of Ross.

I am glad to see them running more this year, Prado, Heyward and Bourn will all be over 20 steals. Probable between 80-90 steals from your outfield, nice!

This team needs a little bench help, but the best move would be a capable manager! We could have a little bench help when the Braves make Sept call-ups, but there is no help coming for an idiot manager. This team with a REAL MAJOR LEAGUE manager would be 5 up on Washington.
FRUSTRATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

southgabrave

August 29th, 2012
10:09 am

can’t type this morning…..

Barbara

August 29th, 2012
10:18 am

Cris is great. I wish Freeman and Heyward would be more consistent in hitting. We leave absolutely too many on base. Fredi play small ball. A lot more needed runs can be scored that way. A man on second with one out is a lot better than no one on with two outs after the double play. Only four out of first forget wild card go for Divison Title

Buddy Landel

August 29th, 2012
10:44 am

Larry

August 29th, 2012
7:21 am
This team easily has 10 more wins YTD with a Girardi or Francona in our dugout.

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You can come up with better examples than that. There are managers out there who do more with less. Yanks and Red Sox have spent $$$$ through the roof for those 2 managers. They SHOULD get a ton of wins. How good was Joe Torre other than his Yankees days ? 1,073-1,230. Francona without Red Sox?285-363. Girardi without Yankee payroll? 78-84. Fredi was 276-279 with Marlins (better % than Girardi), and 163-129 with Braves.

BravesBanter31

August 29th, 2012
10:48 am

BRAVES fans on TWITTER, please add me @BravesBanter31 Love talking Braves baseball during games and all day long! Keep chopping til we catch Washington!!!

Cliff

August 29th, 2012
11:02 am

Barbarba:

“Cris is great. I wish Freeman and Heyward would be more consistent in hitting. We leave absolutely too many on base. Fredi play small ball. A lot more needed runs can be scored that way. A man on second with one out is a lot better than no one on with two outs after the double play. Only four out of first forget wild card go for Divison Title”

Are you series with this comment? You are the Braves fan that irritates me at times. The Braves end up winning, Freddie and Jason have a bad night and you want to single them out. Heyward has been carrying this team offensively lately with a few other guys and you want to call him out on an 0-4 night???? Freddie has been swinging the bat well all year for us and don’t forget these guys are only 22 & 23 years old. Batting in the middle of our lineup.

I guess if Medlen struggles next outing you will be calling him out for inconsistency?

What happened to people leaving out negative things when we win games?

Virginia Brave Fan

August 29th, 2012
11:11 am

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AGTFan

August 29th, 2012
11:26 am

I love reading this blog. You guys are so entertaining. Reading some of the comments is like watching a 3 Stooges movie. It’s so damn stupid it’s funny. Idiots calling for the manager’s head. Idiots calling out 2 of the best players on the team because they didn’t hit last night. Sometimes it seems like Braves fans get stupider every year. Of course, then I remember all the idiots who used to call for the head of one of the few sure thing HOF mangers all the time. I know, the Braves would be undefeated if you morons managed instead of Freddie or Bobby or anyone who actually has to MANAGE a team. And we should cut all the players who don’t hit more than they make outs. Oh well, tirade complete. Carry on stooges.

reckingball

August 29th, 2012
11:32 am

@7:21am……….I wonder what Fredi G could do with a team that has a $$200Million payroll, playing in a (no-brainer)league that has the DH rule?
Yankees eliminated in 1st round of 2011 playoffs, with $200million team.
RedSox didn’t make the playoffs in 2011 with a $$161million lineup.

@RPOLLARDREALTOR

August 29th, 2012
11:41 am

Everybody wants to hate on Fredi G. all the time saying he doesn’t know what he’s doing. The way he has handled Mad Dog Medlen needs to put all these naysays to rest. Look at what happened to the Braves last season down the stretch. We were putting out there the young guys, Teheran and Delgado when those guys just aren’t ready yet. When Medlen went down in ‘10 that’s when our season started to unravel. Luckily we still made the playoffs that season, but without Medlen in that rotation, when he went down, that’s when the consistencey went down. With Huddy, Medlen, Hanson, Paul M. , and Minor, I think we are set for the rest of the season. Lets go Braves!

Lobosolo

August 29th, 2012
11:44 am

I’m sure the all-star laden team had a lot to do with it, as it always should, ON PAPER… It’s an easy game, Larry… you said so yourself… I’d say he made the same calls any other decent mamager would have made but had the best horses in the stable and enough of them were playing hot at the time…. They did what is necessary to win it all… they EXECUTED (the players, Lurrid, the players) at the precise time they needed to… More to managing than just the game, Larry, at least on the level you never had a hope to reach… They ran all over him after they won those two, completely ignoring him until he just up and quit…. nope, as decent a manager as anyone else, but not enough of a leader to run the farm… You’re just bitter, man, because you were never the player you dreamt you’d be and you just don’t like Fredi, I guess because he’s a big league manager and YOU’RE NOT… (just like your two acolytes of the day, southgabrave and billybobwhatever, and let us not forget the quartermaster to and of the armchairs, alexis “suckemifyougotum” binkman)… Let’s add it all up….

Fredi’s team: 5th most wins in the entire major leagues… 5th best record in the major leagues (with a middle of the pack payroll (in comparison, with near twice the payroll, Limpy’s dreamsicle of a manager Girardi has his team only 1 1/2 games ahead of Fredi’s pace), tremendous harmony and sense of mutual purpose among the players, strong support for each other no matter what (surely in some way a reflection of their leaders in the clubhouse and the front office, who both have shown patience and a steady hand throughout the season and haven’t resorted to reactionary tactics to try to appease a small bunch of sorry, sorry, armchair “fans”), no tolerance for prima donnas who think more of themselves than they do of the team, no idiotic bashing of his players in public

Larrhoid, alexis, billy bob, southga, J-WHINE, Ralphie, and all other amchair know-it-alls team: No stats,,, there is no team… even the one they like to identify with as “we” and “our”, which the rest of us know as the team under Fredi’s steady and patient influence, The Braves… There is a very good and apparent reason you boobsies aren’t, you know, actually in baseball…

Just another day at the office for the reactionaries who can’t seem to revel in an exciting pennant race… One has to wonder just what it is about them that makes them want to lick the bottom of the barrel so much… Waller on in your miseries, Armchair Warriors… Looks to the real fans like Fredi is doing a pretty decent job… Let’s be straight here… He doesn’t always make the right call (no manager who ever lived has)… You armchairs have been griping about lack of execution by this player or that player for the entire year (y’all seem to think every player is going to be on every day, even in the face of all recorded baseball history that it doesn’t happen with regularity)… Since they, as you guys cry all the time, have not been executing well all year, wouldn’t you have to concur that despite this, Fredi still has his guys in the top five? Larrhoidaltissue, didn’t you say a manager’s ability to get results in the face of adversity is a true measure of his competence (not that you’d really know about that, though)… Let’s also not forget another very important factor that you tear-riddled whoopsters NEVER acknowledge: the execution of the opponent…. according to you twits, it’s always a lack of execution by “your” team, never a great game played by the opposition…

You crybabies don’t have a hanky to blow in…. “Our” manager has his team primed for the run, and you serial whiners just plain don’t like it… You just can’t handle it… You don’t have the fortitude, nor the intellect (that’s saying a lot for all those dumb cracker baseball players you like to disparage, Looopy) to follow this game…. don’t worry, football is on the horizon for you whippups…
Say it again….Top Five in Baseball… Yeah, I like that,,, “We” have a GREAT CHANCE!

PaulG

August 29th, 2012
11:46 am

Will anybody read the seminal book on managing by bill James …..at most a good manager might make a difference of about 4 games a season vs a poor one.

Larry

August 29th, 2012
11:59 am

LoboDumbDumb,

Looking at your diction, grammar, syntax couple with a profound cognitive deficiency, you aren’t capable of grasping two fundamental components of effective written expression: one, conciseness of expression; two, paragraph breaks. I’m sure the great pains you take to sound even minutely intelligent makes it past 97% of your fellow pork rind goobers on here, but we know the truth, don’t we?

Girardi doesn’t have the Mets, Marlins, this year’s Phillies, and the dumbest manager in baseball to compete with in his division. But then, judging by the old saying, “What you don’t know can’t hurt you,” you’re practically invulnerable.

Larry

August 29th, 2012
12:00 pm

George T.

August 29th, 2012
12:05 pm

Prado is not a shortstop. Outstanding player at most any position, gives it everything he has anywhere you put him; clutch hitter and all around good guy but…….not a shortstop.

Kyle

August 29th, 2012
12:12 pm

Larry lost his wee-wee in a soccer accident 6 years ago.

Brave Hokie

August 29th, 2012
12:13 pm

On a team of weak-mined weenies {Uggla}, MEDLEN is a bulldog…

a Brave who is a gamer, a winner, not a LOSER {Uggla}…

Not to single any one out…

longtimefan

August 29th, 2012
12:22 pm

About 90% of the negative (and a lot of the positive) comments on this blog are knee jerk emotional remarks” the Braves lost a series to the Nats! Fire the manager and front office!” or show a lack of understanding of the game or finances. Remarks like FG is an idiot because he hasn’t had Medlen in the rotation for the entire year is an idiotic or ignorant statement in itself. Over Medlen’s short professional career de has never pitched more than about 115 innings in a year. He was out for 13 months after TJ surgery and missed the entire 2011 season. He already has over 100 inning this year. If he had been in the starting rotation all year he would be on pace to log 200 plus innings. Not doable the year after TJ. So guys, before you go running your mouth insulting our Braves manager who has guided the MLB team with the 16th highest payroll to the ML 5th best record-know what you are talking about. Don’t throw out unsupportable, inane statements like the Braves would “have 10 more wins with another manager in the dugout”. That’s just silly.

southgabrave

August 29th, 2012
12:25 pm

Bobby Cox a great HOF manager? You decide, he had not 1 but THREE HOF pitchers and a HOF 3rd baseman. He a many very good surrounding cast members round those FOUR HOFer’s. Justice, Dye, Gant, Grissom, McGriff and others. He never had a bullpen like the Braves do now, but he did have some pretty good closers along the way.

Bobby won a WS title with Atlanta and one with Toronto. He won many divisional titles and NL titles. Could someone else have done better? Who knows, maybe. He had a pretty nice payroll to work with early on, then it became middle of the pack. HOFer, time will tell and the debate will too!!!

As for Fredi he is a coach at best. He has a pretty good team, but doesn’t use all of them well. Not a lot of debate about Fredi. The Braves have won dispite Fredi, not because of him. The team preforms well with the exception of a few, Uggla, Hinski, JJ to name a couple. Great bullpen, all of them do an excellent job. NIce perfomance by all the starters and good job from Ross.

So if you think Fredi has leadthe Braves to a top 5 team, you insult the excellent play by Kimbrell, Medlen, Heyward, Freeman, Bourn and many others as well as the pitching.

BTW, a top 5finish isnt what I am looking for!

Tumbledown

August 29th, 2012
12:37 pm

There is a lot of criticism about Fredi on this blog. Yes, I know I have a wonderful grasp of the obvious. But, let’s move beyond general and conclusory statements that he is an idiot and the dumbest manager ever. Let’s examine Fredi’s performance thoroughly from now til the end of the season. We are in a pennant race, and the Braves have a chance to erase the nightmare of last year.

So, having not seen the game last night, how did Fredi’s managerial moves affect last night’s 2-0 result? Was his lineup a good one against the opposing pitcher? Did he employ any running strategies? Did he have the position players in the right position to defend against each particular batter? Did Fredi handle Medlen and the bullpen properly? Was there a good use of pinch hitters? Did Fredi seem to have a grasp on what to do at each moment of the game?

I want to read some detailed analysis to my questions. I also want to participate in a discussion on such details for each game until the end of the season. There is no resting on saying Fredi is an idiot, and no fallback position accusing the Fredi attackers as armchair haters. Let’s get down to some real analysis .

Of course, even with such analysis based on a particular game, we do not have the whole picture as to how Fredi handles the team behind the scenes. I see a fairly cohesive team that is on the same page. if anyone can comment otherwise, please respond. Otherwise, let’s assume that Fredi, on some level, is managing his players effectively so that they come to the ballpark ready to play.

So, all you morons (hey that felt good to issue a personal insult. I suddenly feel superior to those I have insulted. I can now mentally escape from my daily grind in the work force knowing that I am indeed smarter and wiser than all who I insult), let’s get to some real and specific analysis on Fredi.

(sorry about the moron remark, I really do not like issuing insults but will not complain anymore about anyone else doing the same).

Lobosolo

August 29th, 2012
12:47 pm

LOL! Larroidaltissue is now the English professor! An addition to his in-his-dreams resume… baseball wunderkind and adjunct professor of liguistics at Armchair University, home of the Dribbling Cryers…. There’s a lot of questions posed for you and your minions about y’all’s gurgitations Larrhoid… care to man up and answer a few?… some of them seem in contradiction to your past declarations of self-acclaimed genius….

It’s a blog, LimpyWordsworth… show us what you got… So far all you’ve given us is your tear-soaked lamentations with no evidence of creedence… reactionary ravings of a jaded, embittered failure-of-a-baseball-player… Give us your treatise again, your Tao of Larrhoid… last time you did, as I can remember, you resorted to creating equally inane alter-personae to stroke your own ego before the real fans on here ran you off by asking you to explain yourself… LOL!!! Larrhoid Wordsworth Stengel… übermensch… Ululator Nonpariel… All hail, His Mighty Acridness…

southgabrave

August 29th, 2012
12:54 pm

@ Tumbledown

As I stated early on this morning, Fredi’s use of subsitution fo Johnson could have been better. Did it change the outcome of the game? No, but it didn’t help either. My pointis that if you ae gong to make a defensive subs. then why not do it to help the whole defense? He subsituted Janish for Prado at short. Point understood there, but why move Prado to LF and take Johnson ( good OFer)out and leave Uggla in at second? Prado is obviously a better 2B. Did he leave Uggla in for his offense? Don’t count on it. He had already homered, so he isn’t going to get another hit. He also k’ed 3 times. If it was about offense, why take a 300 hitter out and leave a 207 hitter in? Yes we need the defense in a 2 run game, but why not remove Uggla?
Second point is the line-up. The Braves struggle against lefties, so what does Fredi do? Start 4 lefties. Now I understand Heyward, Bourn and Freeman, but why McCann who is struggling and Uggla who doesnthit lefties either?

Anyway you can read my post early thi morning and see what i am saying.

southgabrave

August 29th, 2012
12:54 pm

@ Tumbledown

As I stated early on this morning, Fredi’s use of subsitution fo Johnson could have been better. Did it change the outcome of the game? No, but it didn’t help either. My pointis that if you ae gong to make a defensive subs. then why not do it to help the whole defense? He subsituted Janish for Prado at short. Point understood there, but why move Prado to LF and take Johnson ( good OFer)out and leave Uggla in at second? Prado is obviously a better 2B. Did he leave Uggla in for his offense? Don’t count on it. He had already homered, so he isn’t going to get another hit. He also k’ed 3 times. If it was about offense, why take a 300 hitter out and leave a 207 hitter in? Yes we need the defense in a 2 run game, but why not remove Uggla?
Second point is the line-up. The Braves struggle against lefties, so what does Fredi do? Start 4 lefties. Now I understand Heyward, Bourn and Freeman, but why McCann who is struggling and Uggla who doesnthit lefties either?

Anyway you can read my post early thi morning and see what i am saying.

southgabrave

August 29th, 2012
12:54 pm

@ Tumbledown

As I stated early on this morning, Fredi’s use of subsitution fo Johnson could have been better. Did it change the outcome of the game? No, but it didn’t help either. My pointis that if you ae gong to make a defensive subs. then why not do it to help the whole defense? He subsituted Janish for Prado at short. Point understood there, but why move Prado to LF and take Johnson ( good OFer)out and leave Uggla in at second? Prado is obviously a better 2B. Did he leave Uggla in for his offense? Don’t count on it. He had already homered, so he isn’t going to get another hit. He also k’ed 3 times. If it was about offense, why take a 300 hitter out and leave a 207 hitter in? Yes we need the defense in a 2 run game, but why not remove Uggla?
Second point is the line-up. The Braves struggle against lefties, so what does Fredi do? Start 4 lefties. Now I understand Heyward, Bourn and Freeman, but why McCann who is struggling and Uggla who doesnthit lefties either?

Anyway you can read my post early thi morning and see what i am saying.

southgabrave

August 29th, 2012
12:59 pm

Oh yes and the pitching decisions? There were none, it was Medlens turn in the rotation and he pitched a great game. The only decision would have been does he pitch the 9th? Most anyone would say no, he had right at 100 pitches and Kimbrell in the pen.

Tumbledown

August 29th, 2012
12:59 pm

Lobosolo – I agree with you wholeheartedly on the point that we sometime fail to give proper credit to the other player or team and rather unfairly focus the blame on a particular Braves’ player or manager. For example, I have read lost of complaints regarding Game Four of the 1996 WS where Wohlers have up a crucial home run to change the game around. I read lots of criticism about Wohlers throwing a slider or about Cox using Wohlers in that situation. However, you gotta give Leyritz proper credit for hitting the pitch out of the park (I hate you Leyritz!).

I am sure Fredi has made some bad managerial moves. But, I bet the opposing players have made lots of good to great plays in those games where the Braves lost. After all, they are well paid professionals, compensated to get the Braves’ players out and score runs. I am not saying this to completely absolve Fredi, but maybe to expand our overall analysis.

southgabrave

August 29th, 2012
12:59 pm

Oh yes and the pitching decisions? There were none, it was Medlens turn in the rotation and he pitched a great game. The only decision would have been does he pitch the 9th? Most anyone would say no, he had right at 100 pitches and coming off Tommy John plus Kimbrell in the pen.

southgabrave

August 29th, 2012
1:08 pm

Player execution is one thing, managerial decisions are something else. Last years use of the bullpen cost the Braves dearly in August and September. Sometimes yu have to use the pen sometimes you have to take your lumps. You can pitch the same guys everyday for one inning each day. You have to let a guy go 2 and just maybe 3 innings to win tomorrow. Yo cant just burn your pen everyday. Fredi has learned that lesson to a degree, but he still will do it as he did last week in an extra inning game. Threw every pitcher he had for one inning, then ran out of pitchers except starters. He HAD to stay with Martinez in the end.

southgabrave

August 29th, 2012
1:10 pm

Player execution is one thing, managerial decisions are something else. Last years use of the bullpen cost the Braves dearly in August and September. Sometimes you have to use the pen sometimes you have to take your lumps. You can pitch the same guys everyday for one inning each day. You have to let a guy go 2 and just maybe 3 innings to win tomorrow. Yo cant just burn your pen everyday. Fredi has learned that lesson to a degree, but he still will do it as he did last week in an extra inning game. Threw every pitcher he had for one inning, then ran out of pitchers except starters. He HAD to stay with Martinez in the end.

southgabrave

August 29th, 2012
1:10 pm

Player execution is one thing, managerial decisions are something else. Last years use of the bullpen cost the Braves dearly in August and September. Sometimes you have to use the pen sometimes you have to take your lumps. You can pitch the same guys everyday for one inning each day. You have to let a guy go 2 and just maybe 3 innings to win tomorrow. Yo cant just burn your pen everyday. Fredi has learned that lesson to a degree, but he still will do it as he did last week in an extra inning game. Threw every pitcher he had for one inning, then ran out of pitchers except starters. He HAD to stay with Martinez in the end.

Tumbledown

August 29th, 2012
1:10 pm

Southgabrave – It does seem to make sense that the first defensive substitution should involve Uggla being removed from the game.. I too would feel more confortable at the end of the game with Janish at SS, Prado at second, and Johnson in left. If we are to continue to start Uggla, I agree that he needs to be on a short leash as the game tightens toward the end

I am not privy to Uggla’s late game performance. Is his batting equally bad at the end of the game? As far as starting McCann, is there a good relationship between Medlen and him as the battery. Medlen has been pitching great, and maybe he feels most comfortable with McCann. I see to remember, however, that Medlen pitched a good game or too with Ross.

Tumbledown

August 29th, 2012
1:19 pm

Southgabrave – But wasn’t last years’ bullpen use affected some by the fact that the Braves starters would not go deep in the games (see Lowe, Jurrjens, Hanson, and Huddy to some degree) and the fact it seemed the Braves were embroiled in more close and late inning games?

Do other managers employ different bullpen tactics that are more effective? I just do not have a sense as to whether any particular manager would do things materially differently when it comes to bullpen use. I do feel the bullpen is more rested this year based on a number of factors including Fredi’s decision making.

southgabrave

August 29th, 2012
1:19 pm

Uggla is hitting 207, he s terrible the whole gameand the last 2 year except for a 35game stretch last year. He has hit under 190 for the 2 years if you take out that 35 games streak.

Ross has caught Medlen also.

Luke

August 29th, 2012
1:25 pm

i dont know what the people on here expect from Uggla…to hit .300 and strike out less? He has never done that ever in his career. He is a feast or famine type guy. Last night 1-4 3 k’s and a bomb. thats what he is going to give you. expecting him to have the same approach as Prado is not going to happen. He is who he is and although he’s down in HR’s and RBI’s, when he actually does do his job lets give him some props. That homer was big last night. hopefully its a sign of things to come

Luke

August 29th, 2012
1:28 pm

uggla will never be an average guy..he was brought in here to hit bombs and drive in runs and last year he did that. he has struggled this year but he is going to strike out. he always will. hopefully though we get some more bombs and RBI’s and a little less of the striking out

southgabrave

August 29th, 2012
1:30 pm

Tumblewed…Yes the use of the pen was dictated by the extra inning games and close games. That was my point exactly though, you have to choose your battles and let someone rest not use them all everyday. Bobby Cox as much as he used a pen, would just sacrifice a game like that for a series win. You burn your pen up and you will ended losing more games on top of that. Much as what happen in Aug and Sept. We won some of those games early on just to lose a lot late Sept. The problem is he stil does some of it and we have a better offense and a better rotation

southgabrave

August 29th, 2012
1:30 pm

Tumblewed…Yes the use of the pen was dictated by the extra inning games and close games. That was my point exactly though, you have to choose your battles and let someone rest not use them all everyday. Bobby Cox as much as he used a pen, would just sacrifice a game like that for a series win. You burn your pen up and you will ended losing more games on top of that. Much as what happen in Aug and Sept. We won some of those games early on just to lose a lot late Sept. The problem is he stil does some of it and we have a better offense and a better rotation

alex

August 29th, 2012
1:32 pm

lady and gents,if you desire a number of clear examples of manic writing, take a look at lobo’s delights, or refer to the American J. of Psychiatry…….

DOWN BOY, DOWN…..GOOD BOY…HERE’s A TREAT…….

alex

August 29th, 2012
1:41 pm

mABYE fg IS “CRAZY LIKE A FOX”-kINDA LIKE BIDEN, ON THE SURFACE HE APPEARS AN IDIOT OF IMMENSE PROPORTIONS,but it’S ALL A POWERFUL RUSE…….CREEPPY….Personally, I think that they are both just stupid…ooopppss-politics

southgabrave

August 29th, 2012
1:41 pm

Tumbledown…..sorry about the early misnaming, my mistake.

Another example of a bad decision, I dont remember the game, but he started Hinski in LF. Guess what 2 fly balls Prado/Johnson would have caught for outs resulted directly in 2 runs> They were ruled hits, but the slow Hinski misplayed both. I understand getting him a start to get some at bats, but maybe at first where Freeman needed a rest and Hinski’s mobility isnt as noticeable.

Check todays line-up ( I haven’t seen it yet), another lefty I believe. See what you thik about it when it comes out.
should be:
Bourn CF
Prado 2B
Heyward RF
Chipper 3B
Freeman 1B
Johnson LF
Ross C
JanishSS

What will it be?

Larry

August 29th, 2012
1:46 pm

LoboDumbDumb’s writing style:

……….words………..words………….words…………words…..

Whatever anyone says to you goes in one ear and out the other because nothing is blocking traffic.

Let's Go

August 29th, 2012
2:04 pm

southgabrave
You seem like such a smart baseball man I’m sure Frank Wren has you on speed dial if he decides to change managers any time soon.

Also, in regards to your 12:25 post, Bobby Cox is a Hall of Fame Manager and will probaby be inducted when eligible in 2014 along with Joe Torre. However, as great a manager as he was he never won a world series title with Toronto.

Ralph

August 29th, 2012
2:16 pm

Lobosolo

August 29th, 2012
2:17 pm

Last year Fredi had to use what he had, just like any actual manager does … did pretty well with it UNTIL THE PLAYERS SLUMPED AT THE WRONG TIME… You can’t just indescriminately pull up players from the minors,,, they have limited options that need to be used judiciously, and besides, there are professional baseball men in the minors who are privy to WAY more information than any armchair could ever be… Armchairs like to look at stats on a page somewhere and derive their decisions from them… Major league franchises have evaluators, managers, etc., etc, (people who are actually IN baseball) that make decisions… Just because a guy is tearing it up in A or AA doesn’t necessarily mean he’s ready for the bigs… You whiners think you can just do anything you want, regardless of myriad factors, anytime you want… It just doesn’t work that way…

Dan Uggla had power stats like no other in his first five years in the league, winning numerous rookie awards (among them Player’s Coice for Rookie of the Year)… He was coming off of his best season when the Braves signed him… There is no 20/20 hindsight… You can debate his worth at the end of the contract, but no one expected him to hit .300… he was signed for his HR’s, RBI’s and (much maligned by the reactionaries on here) a more than servicable glove… note: The Braves lead the league in fielding percentage… Uggla is definitely not the best, but he is far from the worst in a very demanding position… His hustle is second to none, and his REAL teammates would attest to that, and they do… They all support him… He has had a bad year with the bat… everyone knows it…. armchairs just gotta lock onto it because of the need to cry over anything with “their” team in the top five with a month to go, even after a win!

You will not find many instances, if any, where a team sends a million-dollar player to the minors… nor do you put a player with his contract and abilities on the bench for long periods of time… He is a streaky hitter, and each streak starts with the next at-bat… You pays your money and you takes your chances, but you just don’t jettison a contract like his because he is slumping… Perhaps the Braves will decide to try to move him in the off-season, perhaps not, but much as you armchairs hate it, he is here and he will be used… get over it… His back is had by all of his ACTUAL teammates… There is no crying in baseball…

Back to Fredi… he is a relatively young manager, still learning like all of them did… he had a winning record in ‘08 and ‘09 with the Marlins despite having the LOWEST payroll in baseball… He was named Manager of the Year by the Sporting News in ‘08, even… He has made his mistakes, but his record belies the constant clamor of Larrhoidaltissue and the other crybabies… Managerial jobs in the major leagues aren’t just doled out to imbeciles, otherwise every 20/20 armchair cryster would be leading their own team to glory…. You have to get to the series in order to win it…. Fredi has his team RIGHT THERE… If you get there, lady luck has to have your team playing well and injury-free, among many other factors… The PLAYERS have to execute… If everything was as you crybabies think it should be, The Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies, et al would win it EVERY YEAR…

Thankful that you lamenters don’t run the show…. GO BRAVES!

Lobosolo

August 29th, 2012
2:19 pm

Larrhoid… you STILL haven’t defended your excoriations… cat got your tongue?

alex

August 29th, 2012
2:24 pm

Excoriations,?? somebody hand larry some cortisone cream and some lithium to lobo…

Tumbledown

August 29th, 2012
2:24 pm

Southgabrave – I like the lineup. I will like it more (especially from an offensive standpoint when an if a healthy Simmons returns). I find myself guilty of thinking, if only Uggla could go a month long tear, the Braves would be in such good shape. But, that is wishful thinking. Hopefully, Fredi will heed the reality of the sitation. Does anyone think it is possible that Wren and upper management are dictating for Uggla to play given his salary and upper management’s hopes that he can pick it up for trade value?

I have debated internally the Hinske game. I am not too upset by it s a one-time thing but hope that his further position play is limited to first base.

Lobosolo

August 29th, 2012
2:25 pm

alexis, you haven’t thrown up too many pearls yourself… time for you and Ralphie to grab your daddy Lumphead, break open one of your boxes of vintage binkies, and go commiserate with each other over a good ol’ country suckfest…

alex

August 29th, 2012
2:34 pm

@tumbledown, I agree that uggla is playing as dictated by Wrenn , hoping to improve tradability and to try to rationalize a bad contract, but the more he plays the worse this gets.

Mr. Biggs

August 29th, 2012
3:18 pm

Wren needs to trade Uggla. Chalk it up to another bad trade. Move on.

John Lenin

August 29th, 2012
3:25 pm

You tell ‘em Larry. Keep preaching the truth even though it will never get through to Lamo.
Your comment about conciseness of expression is a good one—one that will forever be lost on HomoHobo.

LOBBO….SERIOUSLY, if you want to make your point on something (valid or invalid…I don’t care), do so by exercising some brevity, man. Good Lord, who in the heck do you think will read your vomit if it’s longer than the actual blog story itself??!!

Use your big words to show how smart you are (man, I bet you’re fun at a party), but do so in a concise manner.

Larry, I don’t know what you did to make Homo so mad and jealous, but believe me buddy, he has a secret man-crush on you that he can only express by trying to berate you. You know, the kind of schoolyard playground crush where the girl keeps hitting the boy to get his attention.

Mr. Biggs

August 29th, 2012
3:31 pm

Will Beachy be available in post season or not until next year?

Mr. Biggs

August 29th, 2012
3:33 pm

Hinske really has no business on the team. It looks like charity. He has like 4 hits all year…

Mr. Biggs

August 29th, 2012
3:37 pm

You could get any random 25 to35 yrs. old male fan out of the stands to hit .200

Mr. Biggs

August 29th, 2012
3:40 pm

Enter your comments here

Lil Wang

August 29th, 2012
3:50 pm

I got a new rap album out. Some of da songs : “Nats Play With Hood Rats” “Wren Likes A Has-Been.
” “No Sleep Til We Win” “Whoop Dere It Went”.

Rick C

August 29th, 2012
3:57 pm

Mr. Biggs, not until around the AS break next year probably. TJ surgery takes around a year to return from, not just a few months.

Nerdville

August 29th, 2012
5:02 pm

Hanson tonight? I thought they would have demoted him by now. It will be an adventure.

lots of cousins

August 29th, 2012
6:10 pm

Don’t you think that’s a “boatload” of cousins? See Medlen quote.

Jasons Shrinking Waist

August 29th, 2012
7:59 pm

I hate hanson

Stumpknocker

August 29th, 2012
8:10 pm

Regardless of where the Braves end of this season,……..Tommy Hanson should be on the trading block next year. Granted he”s a hard luck pitcher, but I can’t imagine that “statue of liberty” delivery he’s got is conducive to a long career.

bruce

August 30th, 2012
9:44 am

Rebel Brave:
Thanks re the Bugs Bunny changeup and the link.

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