Braves blown out in San Diego, finish 4-6 trip with thud

SAN DIEGO – They didn’t win any of three series on their 10-game trip, and the Braves had plenty of time on a cross-country flight home to think about an opportunity wasted.

Braves bats stayed quiet and pitcher Tommy Hanson had another lackluster outing in an 8-2 loss to San Diego on Wednesday afternoon at Petco Park, where the Braves dropped two of three games to finish 4-6 on a three-city trip that left them right where they were when it began — five games behind  NL East leader Washington.

“Just a frustrating end to the road trip,” said third baseman Chipper Jones, who was charged with a two-base error in the fifth inning, when he and shortstop Paul Janish miscommunicated on a pop-up. “Especially a play like that. It looks bad. Then to compound it, we don’t field the bunt right after that, and all of a sudden a one-run lead is a three-run lead.”

A popped up bunt landed between catcher David Ross and Hanson (12-7), who then tried to field in on the bounce and grabbed only air. The Padres scored two runs (one earned) in the inning to open a 4-1 margin, then blew the game open with a four-run eighth against relievers Chad Durbin and Jonny Venters.

“We dropped a fly ball; that’s going to happen,” Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez said. “A little miscommunication there with Pauly and Chipper. But we had a chance to get out of it. The bunt that they popped up to the infield, we’ve got to get an out there. At the very least catch it in the air. And we didn’t do that, and they scored two.”

It was an ugly end to a trip that showed promise after the Braves scored 14 runs in a pair of weekend wins at San Francisco to split that series. But the offense was otherwise dormant for the past week, the Braves totaling seven runs in their other five games during that seven-game stretch in California.

They scored four runs in three games at San Diego.

“We’ve got a pretty good offense, but for whatever reason …” Gonzalez said. “You’ve got to give a little credit to the Padres, the way they pitched us. But we need to get it going a little bit.”

The Braves failed to capitalize on a five-game Washington losing streak that ended with a win at Miami on Wednesday.

Hanson was charged with eight hits and four runs (three earned) in 4-2/3 innings, with two walks and three strikeouts. He’s pitched five innings or fewer in four of his past five starts, and gone 0-2 with a 5.75 ERA in three since returning from a stint on the 15-day disabled list for a strained back.

“Command is the issue, his fastball command,” Gonzalez said. “It’s not going where he wants it to go. Some of the balls are being left over the plate, and he’s walking guys with the fastball. But this is only his third start off of the DL, so maybe he’ll get it going here in the next couple of starts.”

Hanson concurred:  “It’s got to be better than what it is now. I’m just going to keep working and do what I can to get it back where it needs to be.”

Atlanta remained atop the wild-card standings, just 2-1/2 games in front of St. Louis. During their 4-8 stretch the Braves have scored two or fewer runs seven times, and Wednesday marked the seventh time they collected seven or fewer hits in that period.

There wasn’t much to recommend from the Braves perspective Wednesday, other than a couple of standing ovations accorded  Jones in his last scheduled game at San Diego. He tipped his helmet both times, before his first and last at-bats in the game, and had two singles including an eighth-inning hit up the middle.

Martin Prado followed by grounding into an inning-ending double play.

The Padres scored two runs in the fourth and never looked back on their way to their ninth win in 10 games.

David Ross hit a ninth-inning solo homer for the Braves, whose only other run came on Michael Bourn’s fifth-inning sacrifice fly.

Trailing 2-0, the Braves started the fifth with a Dan Uggla single and a two-base error that put Uggla and Janish in scoring position with none out. After Hanson struck out and Bourn flied out to drive in one run, Reed Johnson grounded out.

Padres left-hander Eric Stults (5-2) limited the Braves to one unearned run in six innings, and Janish popped out on a first pitch with bases loaded to end the sixth inning and their last, best scoring opportunity.

“I still feel like we’re playing pretty good baseball,” Jones said. “We ran into some pretty good pitching on this road trip, but I’m certainly looking for bigger and better things on this upcoming homestand. We’re a tired club right now. I think we’re looking forward to the day off tomorrow and the Phillies coming into town this weekend.”

154 comments Add your comment

Matt

August 29th, 2012
9:35 pm

Matthew 19:30

Matt

August 29th, 2012
9:35 pm

Matthew 19:30

addy

August 29th, 2012
9:35 pm

Nats havent won yet, leading top of the 8th 6-4

Matt

August 29th, 2012
9:36 pm

Now let the whining begin…

addy

August 29th, 2012
9:37 pm

DOB jumped the gun declaring Nats as winners over Marlins tonight. Would have to retract if Marlins come back to beat Nats last 2 innings.

Semper Fi Braves fan

August 29th, 2012
9:39 pm

Matt is an idiot for starters, take your bible and go thump it elsewhere.

addy

August 29th, 2012
9:41 pm

DOB retract that real fast. Marlins with 2 in scoring position none out top of the 8th trailing 6-4

True Braves Fan

August 29th, 2012
9:41 pm

So true Matt… a whole lot of whining is about to take place… Wonder what idiotic things BraveFanInWisc and Larry will say…

addy

August 29th, 2012
9:49 pm

Now let the cap tipping begin !!

Ken Stallings

August 29th, 2012
9:50 pm

To my eyes, this start by Hanson was the final straw. Even if it means calling up Randall Delgado if Ben Sheets isn’t yet ready to resume his duties, that is exactly what the Braves must do. Hanson has an attitude problem to go with a serious and persistent control problem. He keeps getting rocked and about the only asset he has going for him is raw luck, and the luck runs out by the fifth inning. Then, the bullpen has to cough up two to three pitchers and that is not helping the team.

Hanson’s very poor effort (practically a surrender on the play) to field that bunt and allow the bunter to reach base was very, very revealing. Hanson doesn’t appear to have his heart and soul in the game any longer. That bad attitude is corrosive, and it is time to demote him to AAA and then put him on waivers to see if any other team wants to work a trade. If not, then release him at the end of the year.

Vino Fino

August 29th, 2012
9:52 pm

PATHETIC!!!!

I deluded myself into thinking this was an elite team prior to this 13 game stretch, but clearly they are not. Elite teams don’t do things like phone it in on get away day. Elite teams don’t lay an egg in a game that could have swung their difficult road trip from poor to acceptable. Elite teams put away lesser opponents…

My, my

August 29th, 2012
9:52 pm

they lost. it happens move on, the Phillies are coming.

least of the east

August 29th, 2012
9:54 pm

let’s stay positive. the Braves have an off day Thurs. that means Hanson won’t pitch again for almost a week.
for those Uggla bashers (and he hasn’t been too good), what about Bourn ? he’s down to .283. I remember when he was well over .300.
I don’t know how a guy can have a 31 game hitting streak and then soon after rarely get a hit.
9/1 is almost here so we’ll have more options. too bad, almost no ML ready offensive help down in
minors.

BillEGoat

August 29th, 2012
9:58 pm

I don’t usually see this with the Braves, but it seemed to me that after the bad inning with Chipper’s error and the other misplays, the team just kind of gave up and was only going through the motions, waiting to hop on the plane and fly east. Hanson had that kind of look after Chipper’s error. This was a VERY listless performance. Just wondering. Am I the only one who wanted to see a pinch hitter for Janish that tine, with the bases loaded and two outs, and Paul hit a weak popup om the first pitch? Janish is great with the glove and gives 100%, but Pastornicky might have given a better AB. After that, I figured the game as a lost cause.

BravesFanSince80s

August 29th, 2012
9:59 pm

@My, my: how many times are you willing to say that?

Jimmy T.

August 29th, 2012
10:00 pm

The Braves need to move Hanson at any price. His delivery is awful, he is slow going to first, and after watching him not throw to first early in tonights game, I wonder if he is mentally competent to pitch in the majors.

Carl Farvman

August 29th, 2012
10:00 pm

My take is that we should move Medlen to middle relief and put JJ back in the starting rotation.

BravesFanSince80s

August 29th, 2012
10:01 pm

.283 is one hell of a long way from Ugly land…

FBGuy

August 29th, 2012
10:01 pm

I’ve held my tongue long enough about Hanson. He needs to be dropped from the rotation; he’s hurting the team, and with the September call-uos there are other options.

BravesFanSince80s

August 29th, 2012
10:02 pm

@Carl: ha…ha…ha…

moboman

August 29th, 2012
10:04 pm

His horrible delivery looks exactly as it always has. Because he’s all arm, he loses steam in any extended pitch inning. If he wont start putting his body into his throw, he needs to sit. Or be gone.

BravesFanSince80s

August 29th, 2012
10:08 pm

I remember being concerned with Hanson’s delivery when he first came up, in the past what 3 or 4 years, how has no one been able to do something about the obvious weakness? To me, that speaks volumes about Hanson as a person…

DaveinNEPA

August 29th, 2012
10:10 pm

Apparently they decided to extend their day off by not showing up today too.

Nothing i’ve seen from this bunch gives me any confidence for the month of September. There are a lot of good players here but there are a few weak links that need to be purged in the off-season.

double

August 29th, 2012
10:11 pm

The Phils are on the move up.The Braves are being normal for this time of season.

Tired of excuses!

August 29th, 2012
10:15 pm

It’s too bad the Braves pitchers don’t have ERA’s to match the everyday players batting averages. And vice versa.

Ed

August 29th, 2012
10:17 pm

The Braves just said “no thanks” to the Nationals. There is no fire in this team. They have no leaders to follow. They are all just going through the motions till the season ends. There is no desire to win. I am so sorry for all of us who have lived and died with this team since April. Maybe we will know better next year.

Vino Fino

August 29th, 2012
10:19 pm

Yes, .283 is a long way from Uggly, but Bourn’s second half delcine is something that doesn’t get talked about nearly enough. I, for one, am not convinced the Braves need to go hard after him in the offseason. Whatever team signs him is going to grossly overpay, and he strikes out and puts the ball in the air waaaay to much to be a consistently effective leadoff hitter. He’s going to finish the season with roughly 150 strikeouts- not good.

Vino Fino

August 29th, 2012
10:19 pm

Yes, .283 is a long way from Uggly, but Bourn’s second half delcine is something that doesn’t get talked about nearly enough. I, for one, am not convinced the Braves need to go hard after him in the offseason. Whatever team signs him is going to grossly overpay, and he strikes out and puts the ball in the air waaaay to much to be a consistently effective leadoff hitter. He’s going to finish the season with roughly 150 strikeouts- not good.

lee maye

August 29th, 2012
10:19 pm

2 Options: Put Delgado back in the rotation. Or, see if the Rangers are stupid enough to trade Roy Oswalt for Uggla. Rangers need a right hand bat and Uggla does swing a RH uppercut bat. Oswalt has cleared waivers and most believe Uggla has too. Then, hope Oswalt can do better in the NL. He is better than Hanson anyway.

Vino Fino

August 29th, 2012
10:21 pm

Oops- sorry for the double submission.

Did I mention that today’s performance was PATHETIC!?

DaveinNEPA

August 29th, 2012
10:24 pm

They managed to score a total of 4 runs in 3 games against a last place team. That is just plain pathetic!!!!!

If it weren’t for Medlen, they probably would have gotten swept.

NorCal Brave

August 29th, 2012
10:24 pm

I think Braves will have enough steam to finish in the 2nd wild card slot, and barring a surprise, will fall in the 1-game playoff. The offense has again become suspect, even with the acquisition of Johnson and Fredi’s attempts to juggle the lineup. One thing that could make a difference is if Simmons gets back soon and picks up where he left off.

NorCal Brave

August 29th, 2012
10:24 pm

I think Braves will have enough steam to finish in the 2nd wild card slot, and barring a surprise, will fall in the 1-game playoff. The offense has again become suspect, even with the acquisition of Johnson and Fredi’s attempts to juggle the lineup. One thing that could make a difference is if Simmons gets back soon and picks up where he left off.

WTF

August 29th, 2012
10:28 pm

Maybe, they were clapping for Chipper because of his GIFT phantom catch……Hanson should have come out in the 4th with runners on 2nd and 3rd NO outs. It was obvious he didn’t have it early or often.

striker

August 29th, 2012
10:29 pm

i wish hansen would just go away. he can’t hit, he cant field, and he cant pitch. he’s the anti-medlen

striker

August 29th, 2012
10:30 pm

actually, they should have pinch hit for hansen in the 4th with runners on base. instead, he weakly strikes out.

BRAVESFAN

August 29th, 2012
10:31 pm

Go home, have a shower or do your laundry because something stinks and you need to start winning.

kevkat

August 29th, 2012
10:39 pm

Hanson concurred: “It’s got to be better than what it is right now. I’m just going to keep working to get it back where it needs to be.”

Well I hope you work on it outside of the rotation.

Clydesdale

August 29th, 2012
10:42 pm

I am afraid a once gifted pitcher, Hanson, is done as a MLB starting pitcher. He does not possess a major league fastball. It never moved much but w zip was very effective. Without that pop he is nibbling with curves. Once behind he tries to sneak a fastball by someone. Hopefull sheets regains his heater and we move Hanson to the bullpen. 15 pitches and I bet he can hop it up again and then contribute.

jo

August 29th, 2012
10:44 pm

This has shades of 2011 …. Hanson is useless for whatever reason and overall hitting has gone cold. Why? No one knows except that we must tip ourcaps…

Steveo

August 29th, 2012
10:46 pm

Turn out the lights….the party’s over…….nanana..nanana…goodbye……Freddieeeee

Semper Fi Braves fan

August 29th, 2012
10:49 pm

No chance Kevkat, as with the Uggla experiment is going. He will keep pitching every 5th day to figure it out. Fredi Gonzalez isn’t that smart.

Steveo

August 29th, 2012
10:50 pm

As the season ends….we see Chipper…..riding off into the sunset …not on a white stallion, but leading a jackass that looks just like him,and with a ragged beggar who looks just like Uggla…..good bye boys…….losers…you have no class or heart…

TWO GOOD DOGS

August 29th, 2012
10:53 pm

HANSON IS NOT THE MAN. NEVER WAS, NEVER WILL BE. BAD ARM MOVEMENT. NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BACK. SHOULD NOT HAVE STARTED TODAY IN A VERY IMPORTANT ROAD TRIP. THE TEAM SEEMS TO SENSE HIS INEPTNESS.
THE TEAM AT BAT,……THEY WERE AWFUL. CARDINALS WILL BE ON US AND GONE BY 9-7-12
IT’S FUNNY. WHEN GLAVINE LOST A GAME , HE KNEW EXACTLY THE PITCH AND THE SITUATION THAT DID HIM IN. HANSON AND HIS BUNCH LOOK AT THE WHOLE BODY OF WORK..THEY CAN’T RECOGNIZE HOW BAD THEY ARE FROM INNING TO INNING. AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.. IT’S ON FREDDY. HANSON SHOULD NOT BE PART OF THIS ROTATION. HOWEVER, THE GUYS HITTING………I’M SORRY SHOULD BE HITTING… CAN PICK UP THEIR PAYCHECKS AND TELL THEIR WIVES AND GIRLFRIENDS WHAT A FINE JOB THEY DID.

BravesWin

August 29th, 2012
10:58 pm

Well, as predicted, Hanson’s delivery and stubbornness about addressing that problem has come to the inevitable. Uggla is one stubborn character, too. Sheesh.

picturetaker12

August 29th, 2012
10:58 pm

JJ and Hanson used to be two of our best pitchers. Can’t somebody straighten them out before we give them away and watch them become 15 game winner for somebody else? Same thing with Uggula, why has he become such a sorry hitter unless he hits a homerun? BB, TIM, and Minor are our best pitchers and maybe Paul. Somebody do something!

Clydesdale

August 29th, 2012
10:59 pm

Why is Two Dogs yelling.

Braves Offense

August 29th, 2012
11:00 pm

Ok, we’re ready for tonight’s game- let’s get this bad boy start….

What? The game was this afternoon? How did that happen? I wish someone would have told us- we might have shown up! Did we win???

John Doe

August 29th, 2012
11:01 pm

Two Good Dogs,

Do you realize that the CAPS LOCK key can be turned off also?

older1

August 29th, 2012
11:16 pm

Please release me and let me learn to play again. Oh i’m sorry Ray Price didn’t sing it that way. Day off will be good for the team they really do look tired. Don’t give up guys never give up.

braveslover

August 29th, 2012
11:20 pm

This failure to win the big game or the big series is becoming redundant. Hanson is absysmal. We know the problems and have to assume that Wren and Shurholz see them also. Chipper needs to quit pouting and put into practice what he says he brings to the team everyday…a strong work ethic and leadership. The worst words he will say over and over after he retires are “I wish I had done more in August and September”. But you know all our boys are going to the bank happy.

DOB Has To Ask TOUGHER QUESTIONS!

August 29th, 2012
11:21 pm

Folks, you have to tip your cap to Red Boy Hanson. I was so sure he does well against Cali teams so he can take Good Ole Boy Boras and sign over on that side of town! And boy, was we wrong! Folks, Hanson wants to stay a Brave. You DO KNOW that tons of payroll comes off this year? Well, lets add another former flame thrower and over rated prospect and give him 4years/60 million! Or maybe something around the Burnett offer of 5/90?
Folks, I admire Hanson and his love for the Braves. So to THAT, we say ATTA BOY TOMMY!

Ken Stallings

August 29th, 2012
11:28 pm

The Braves can recover from this disappointing road trip. But, to do so, Hanson’s days in the pitching staff simply has to come to an end. I’ve already made my overall thoughts about Hanson known, so I won’t repeat it here.

It all starts with pitching, goes on to defense, and winds up with offense. For the defense and the offense to work, each must have confidence that the starting pitcher will maintain control of the game, and Hanson is no longer controlling the game, the opposition lineup is controlling him. What I see now is a total lack of confidence within the team with Hanson — again for the reasons already said.

The Braves are blessed to have two aces on their starting rotation — Hudson and Medlen. Mike Minor is emerging as a quality pitcher who has put together a solid streak of good performance. Ben Sheets has a tired shoulder and rest might do the trick with him. Paul Maholm is a good pitcher and he has lost a few because frankly he has gotten very little run support, but he has always pitched a lot of innings and kept his team in the game. Give Maholm a few runs and you believe you will win and won’t need more than two innings of relief with a bullpen well prepared for that kind of service.

What the Braves simply cannot do is put someone on the mound every five days who ruins whatever momentum was created and is pretty much guaranteed not to create any!

Rob

August 29th, 2012
11:40 pm

It has become quite apparent that we need to either go to a 4 man rotation and that means sending tommy Hansen down to Gwinnett , or bringing Delgado back until Ben sheets is ready to rejoin the rotation. We can I’ll afford to let Hansen ruin this season. We do have options. Hansen nor JJ are in the braves plans for 2013 so we need to cut our loses NOW. This is not personal, this is a business. This is not about hansen being a bad person. This is about his performance. He needs to go to Gwinnett to try and work things out. What he does not need to do is rain on this parade anymore. Either he gets it together or he needs to be gone. This is all about performance. Either he goes down, corrects his issues, or he needs to be released. Enuff is enuff. We have a pennant to win! If frank wren does not make the tough moves, then he needs to move on too! It’s time!

Justin

August 29th, 2012
11:47 pm

Who cares anymore its football season now

harry taylor

August 30th, 2012
12:21 am

Chippers has a error. I’m surprised.
To hear Fredi talk, a out her and there and we would have been alright. He doesn’t mention Padres outhit the Braves 13-7.
Nationals lost 5 straight and the Braves only picked up 1 game. They were given a chance but weren’t up to the task. Braves will be lucky to get a wild card slot. Or maybe like last year, they will blow it again. Don’t have any confidence in management or players. Just a lot of excuses. If I did that in my job, I would be looking for another job. Athletes are such a spoiled bunch, but the fans make it happen.

nelson

August 30th, 2012
12:23 am

this is a mediocre team, the eternal prospect Hanson, who every year is the same, nothing explosive offensive, do not look to clean this team will not win the division.

ab initio

August 30th, 2012
12:28 am

Well, Wren, what now?

And Uggla Strikes Out

August 30th, 2012
12:34 am

Please, NO MORE Hanson on the mound! Bring back Delgado, who at least gave us the possibility of a strong game. I believe that Delgado is actually a better bet than Ben Sheets to give us some quality games down the stretch. Medlen, Hanson, Minor, Maholm, and Delgado…..now!

JHarber

August 30th, 2012
12:34 am

Justin That sums up 2012 Braves Between Freddi and Wren and team attitude its over. Prado is the only player with any fire at all, Everyone else waits for someone else to do something. Freddi and Wren are not to answer to management problems. Without changes my 2000.00 dollars a year will stay in my pocket.

The Brave Californian

August 30th, 2012
12:37 am

Hanson is washed up. Is Freddi the only one who can’t see this????

BobbyDawg

August 30th, 2012
12:38 am

7 hits — 2 runs — NO GOOD !

And Uggla Strikes Out

August 30th, 2012
12:40 am

I meant Medlen, HUDSON, Minor, Maholm, and Delgado. Sheesh.

jase

August 30th, 2012
1:26 am

Fredi G… someone should send you to the DL for good if you EVER let Hanson start again.

IdahoBravesFan

August 30th, 2012
1:29 am

I remember watching Hanson for the first time and my first thought was it reminded me of the kids pitching in the Boise Hawks minor league games. Do any of you see any major league pitchers with the same arm only only delivery? That guy cannot last and now he can’t get through five innings.

John A.

August 30th, 2012
1:51 am

NorCalBrave….you can forget Simmons….he is history…he has been replaced by Janish and the Pastor. As for all that think Oswalt is the pitcher to pursue…please look at his stats. He gets rocked every time he takes the mound. Why do you think the Phillies let him go? Hell the Astros wouldn’t take him, and if it wasn’t for the fact that he is a pal of Nolan Ryan he wouldn’t be with the Rangers….he’s a loser…..damn I forgot…a perfect fit for the Braves.

nashvillewill

August 30th, 2012
2:13 am

Hanson’s delivery issues will always produce mediocre results. That is what you get from him. If Braves intend to contend for any post-season he must be removed from rotation. Delgado is better choice, imo. Ross is a better hitter and superior catcher to McCann this year. Make McCann the backup for the rest of the season, then decide what to do with him in offseason. Bench Uggla for the remainder of the season and bring up the Gwinnett 2B. Release Pastornicky and Hinkse. Try other Gwinnett guys, search the waiver wire, or trade for some bench help as these guys offer nothing. I am mixed about Francisco, though, in general, his attitude is bothersome. I say, now, as I said in April, this group is not a winning bunch. And I certainly think Bourn is not going to be resigned. So next year we look for a CF, a LF (return Prado to 2B where he belongs), a 3B, and a Catcher. Hopefully, Uggla, Hinske, Janish, Francisco, and McCann will be playing elsewhere if they play at all, since they lack ML skills in one or more areas. Braves will also need at least one starting pitcher to replace Hanson, and a middle relief guy to replace Medlen who stays in the rotation (he is the ace). Minor is ok and Maholm would be undefeated with some run support. I suspect Sheets will not be back. If Braves don’t play in postseason, as is most likely, is Fredi gone? I think he should be, simply for sticking with players who don’t produce and refusing to consider options. After 55 years as a Braves fan, I won’t give up, but I will look at reality.

SR

August 30th, 2012
2:15 am

Shocking, really shocking news, Hanson ineffective. Where are his apologists?

Meatloaf vs Porkchops

August 30th, 2012
2:22 am

Hey Frank wren Nice are you ready for some Football soon….U be soon watchin it maybe for good when fired..Oh wait the owners Liberty of Bad stuff will keep you and freddi so can play at Ted before EROS daily (empty room only seats) at home…..even if were some how tie Nats at end you would lose East cause of freddi G, Managein skills n uggla rusted gate and chipper pootin um poutin..he retire twice when car hits wrong way driver at staduim and again when St.Louis comes here for one game wildcard game playoff see who go’s play divison series…before crowd of empty seats And Wren and freddi will run away to dallas for chipper home to hide!

Norm

August 30th, 2012
4:37 am

It seems like the team expects a loss everytime Hanson takes the hill. The most frustrating thing about Hanson is his inability to hold runners at first. It seems like every hit or walk turns into a guy standing on second. Guys seem to be running at will against him and there is nothing McCann can do about it with the leads and jumps runners are getting. I just don’t understand how Hanson has not made any noticeable attempt to correct that problem –slide step, altering his routine, stepping off, holding the ball until time is called…please anything. Base runners look like they are stealing candy from a baby. And with Hanson’s knack for giving up the long ball…its just a bad situation to have him working it out every 5th day in the rotation during a pennant chase. Let’s hope that Freddy’s was on the up and up when he said the biggest thing he learned from last year was not to have so much patience. So far I’m not seeing that from Freddy.

Norm

August 30th, 2012
4:46 am

@nashvillewill – I could see Pastorniky at 2nd (if he truly has the bat everyone says he could have with regular time in the lineup). Why not keep Prado in the OF, and only need to fill CF after Bourn goes as a FA. Francisco could be a bargain at 3rd next year and put up some good offensive numbers with solid D. Wright is a FA…but is it worth the $$$ for a high profile 3B after freeing up Chipper’s salary?

Ernie Mackinnon

August 30th, 2012
5:26 am

I am really tired hearing Fredi Gonzales excusing needless mistakes. He better fill his big bag of excuses to use when the Bravos miss the playoffs.

LivinInAL

August 30th, 2012
6:46 am

Little life in the bats, lackluster pitching, mental mistakes…uh we are approaching September again….

Chas

August 30th, 2012
6:49 am

The headcase, spit-it-out 2012 Atlanta Braves are back in September of 2011 mode. This team of chokers is done. They play pathetic baseball. They have talent, but they lack any mental toughness. They will not be a playoff team. They are he same choke job group as last year. Fredi is as big an idiot as anyone who has ever laced up spikes. Hanson “only his 3rd start off the DL…” SERIOUSLY. SERIOUSLY That’s the explanation why this guy can’t pitch? He can’t pitch because he has batting practice stuff and speed, and he has no location. His mechanics are a joke. The Hanson hype ever did come true. The guy is totally toast. He’s JJ with red hair. He’s done. Fredi’s “6 man rotation” is down to 3.
No bats. What a joke. Janish, Heyward, Uggla, Jones, Bourn, Prado, Ross, what a LOSER lineup yesterday. Hit with runner on? Unheard of with this group. Situational hitting, none. CHOKE JOB 2011, re-visited. Can you catch a pop-up? These are major leaguers (supposedly).
If you thing this game was ugly, wait until the Phillies sweep the Braves at Turnewr field. Its right around the corner; then the 2012 collapse will be in full speed.
No playoffs for this group. Not with 6 wildcards. Then the braindead front office will have to fire Fredi (with an “i”). That’s the one silver lining to 2012.

longtimefan

August 30th, 2012
6:50 am

Funny. The Braves have a 4-6 road trip but remain 2 and1/2 up in the WC and they are declared done for the season.

GTMike14

August 30th, 2012
6:50 am

The Braves have 3 legitimate World Series type players, Jones, Bourn, and Freeman, who needs more seasoning. With the rest, as usual, they go nowhere. (Pitchers not counted here, by the way).

Jimmy Crack

August 30th, 2012
6:53 am

The Bravos better start learning how to hit left-handed pitching or it will be difficult hanging onto this slight lead. Also, Hansen needs to rest for a couple of weeks. His fastball hasn’t had the giddyup lately.

Jerry in Tennessee

August 30th, 2012
6:54 am

I have noticed a pattern with the Braves. If they hit a few at em balls hard early in the game, or hit into a rally killing double play early in the game, they quit. If they get behind in the first three innings they pack it in. The team has no fight. They hang their heads like Little Leaguers. This has to be a reflection of leadership. Everyone seems to want to tip their caps and move to tomorrow. They seem to believe losing is ok if they just make a few mistakes. Good managers find a way to win and that attitude rubs off on the players.

GTMike14

August 30th, 2012
6:58 am

By the way, Fredi has personally lost 3 games for the Braves from the dugout. Takes some doing. He should be gone after the season.

Big Green Tribe

August 30th, 2012
7:00 am

Hansen topped out at 89 on his “fast” Ball…his damaged arm can’t even hit 90 these days. And he’s a dumb pitcher, not the kind of gur who’d going to rely on wiles to beat opponents. He has a terribly slow windup (always has had and never bothered to correct it) and opposing players run at will against him.

He was awkwardly stiff on his mess with the bunt, still had a play at first when it dropped but just stood there and looked at it.

Send him back to minors to learn how to pitch with no fast ball.

Finished

August 30th, 2012
7:04 am

I’ve been a Braves fan ever since they moved to Atlanta . I watch every game if possible , but with the frustrating end to this year and the disasterous collapse of last year , I am through with this bunch of pretenders until drastic changes are made.
Thankfully football season begins tonight.
Go Cardinals and Dodgers ,

Fredi

August 30th, 2012
7:11 am

I have already decided on my starting pitcher for the one game playoff but I am keeping it under my hat, although I will give Braves fans a hint: “Big Red”

Davey Sprocket

August 30th, 2012
7:13 am

@Ken Stallings – you are deluded if you think the Braves have TWO aces. You guys cannot even figure out who you want to pitch the one-game playoff, for cryin’ out loud! The other folks saying things like “after the DL, Sheets should be back to form” or “IF Hanson goes to the pen, he can get his pop back” – etc., etc., (paraphrashing)… Sheesh. The guys you are whining about are basically doing what they have always done – Maholm is an innings eater, sure – on a team that was never going anywhere in Chi-town, and who was quite mediocre statistically. Why do you think he would, all of a sudden turn into a true stud?? Bourn is a career .279 hitter (in Pittsburgh), who exceeded that in Atlanta for 13 months. Like it or not, he is a huge part of the offense, and not an easy guy to replace. Perfect? Nope. But, better than anyone else. You rather have Prado hitting leadoff?
Uggla is doing what he has done since his arrival. Hit for a poor average. Last year he made up for 5 bad months with 6 good weeks – no such luck this time. A waste of time and money. Heyward is still a .230 hitter against lefties, and Freeman is similarly weaker in those instances. The team will look a LOT different next year, with at least 8 or 9 new guys. Cannot be sure it will be better, but it will be different.

BillyBob

August 30th, 2012
7:36 am

You cn’t continue to send th retardto the mound! Totally ineffective. Gives you zero chances to win!

Sports Fan of Everyting Georgia, except Teh

August 30th, 2012
7:37 am

Tommy Hanson is the Braves’ weakest link in terms of starting pitchers, for sure. He might not be a horrible player but I do think that he is a horrible fit for the Braves. When I saw him give him on that softly hit ground ball last night, I almost lost it. Who does that and your team is fighting for the Division crown?? If I were Fredi G me and Hanson would have had a long time, and if he’s injury he doesn’t need to be in there. How about we place him on the DL and bring Sheets back.

Sports Fan of Everyting Georgia, except Teh

August 30th, 2012
7:37 am

Tommy Hanson is the Braves’ weakest link in terms of starting pitchers, for sure. He might not be a horrible player but I do think that he is a horrible fit for the Braves. When I saw him give him on that softly hit ground ball last night, I almost lost it. Who does that and your team is fighting for the Division crown?? If I were Fredi G me and Hanson would have had a long time, and if he’s injury he doesn’t need to be in there. How about we place him on the DL and bring Sheets back.

Sports Fan of Everyting Georgia, except Teh

August 30th, 2012
7:37 am

Tommy Hanson is the Braves’ weakest link in terms of starting pitchers, for sure. He might not be a horrible player but I do think that he is a horrible fit for the Braves. When I saw him give him on that softly hit ground ball last night, I almost lost it. Who does that and your team is fighting for the Division crown?? If I were Fredi G me and Hanson would have had a long time, and if he’s injury he doesn’t need to be in there. How about we place him on the DL and bring Sheets back.

BillyBob

August 30th, 2012
7:38 am

Hanson reminds me of Len Barker! He sucked too!

George

August 30th, 2012
7:43 am

Just one thing to SAY BAD-BAD-BAD.

Sports Fan of Everyting Georgia, except Teh

August 30th, 2012
7:44 am

I’m sorry line six, first word…..TALK

DaltonBrave

August 30th, 2012
7:49 am

The Braves offense is just pitiful. Four runs in three games isn’t going to cut it. Those two runs scored last night didn’t come until the 9th inning. Hanson the human batting tee, go figure. A much needed day off for the Braves today and probably the fans as well.

Reality

August 30th, 2012
7:54 am

The sad reality is that Chipper is a big part of the problem. He was quoted as saying he feels that the Braves are playing pretty good baseball. Really? After this road trip? The team needs real leadership that won’t accept a 4 – 6 road trip as “pretty good baseball”. Until then, get ready for another collapse in September.

joe

August 30th, 2012
8:04 am

Hanson: 6′5″ a very unathletic 240 Lbs of softness. worst excuse for a hitter in the majors, throws 89mph without location and takes 100 pitches to get to the 5th inning. I see no redeeming qualities.
He sucks, period !

Nurse Ratched [aka Randal Patrick McMurphy]

August 30th, 2012
8:09 am

The pall hanging over this team is Epic – swords and everything. The Collapse Mentality is starting to show on the field, never mind in the dugout. The Braves ownership & management is a disease to which there is no cure short of a complete transfusion. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; get used to this, because what you see is what you get…

BRAVES SUCK

August 30th, 2012
8:17 am

TAKE HASON OUT OF STARTING ROTATION, AND UGGLA OUT OF THE LINE UP, FIRE FREDI G. ALL ARE DOWN FALLS, OF THE BRAVES. JUST SOOOOOOO BAAAAAAADDDD.

don

August 30th, 2012
8:17 am

If the Braves make the playoffs and face the Cardinals in a one game series, it will be a quick end to the season. Of course, they may fold as they did last year.

Hock A Homa

August 30th, 2012
8:18 am

Pick up David Wright nexxt year

don

August 30th, 2012
8:19 am

I said erlier that Chipper is headed for the .290s. He may well finish up in the .280s or lower- depending on how many days he rests.

The opposite

August 30th, 2012
8:33 am

Hmmm….Where are the Hanson lovers now? I guess they finally took down those posters off their bedroom walls.

daSarge

August 30th, 2012
8:36 am

You can’t spell BraveS without BS.

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