Medlen’s Braves-record streak on line vs. Padres
SAN DIEGO – After being shut out Monday night by a Padres 22-year-old, Casey Kelly, making his major league debut, tonight the braves will face another pitcher they’ve never seen, Andrew Werner, who is making his second major league start. And this rookie is left-handed. Uh-oh.
The Braves have won 16 consecutive games started by Kris Medlen, who toes the slab tonight against the streaking Padres.
Ah, but the Braves will counter with their no-longer-secret weapon, Kris Medlen, who brings with him a rather remarkable team-record streak of 16 consecutive wins for the Braves in games he’s started going back to 2010.
Medlen and his streak are up against the Padres and their eight-game winning streak. Something’s gotta give, folks. It should be interesting.
By the way, of course, the Braves are facing lefties tonight and in series finale (Eric Stults). It wouldn’t feel right if they didn’t face one or more lefties in a series, know what I mean? Faced two in San Francisco, now two in San Diego. Four lefties in seven days on the left coast.
Not at all unusual for the Braves, who’ve faced more lefties than any other major league team this season, after facing more lefties than any other National League team in 2011.
Here’s a rather stunning stat: The only four NL players with as many as 175 at-bats against lefties this season are all Braves – Michael Bourn (197), Jason Heyward (187), Freddie Freeman (182) and Martin Prado (181).
That’s because no division has as many lefty starters than the East, and the other teams in the division have had more lefties start games this season than the Braves, who had only one lefty starter (Mike Minor) until the July 30 trade for Paul Maholm. In other words, the other teams in the division, the ones with multiple lefty starters during the season, haven’t had to face as many lefties when facing the Braves.
But you got that without me explaining it, so why did I waste the keystrokes?
Anyway, the Braves have 1,638 at-bats against lefties this season, while the Mets (1,506) are only other major league team with as many as 1,500. Last year the Braves led the NL with 1,637 at-bats vs. lefties.
This was particularly troublesome last season, because while the Braves had the most at-bats in the league against lefties, they ranked dead last in the league in average (.228) and OPS (.642) against lefties. You can see where this would be a problem.
This season they’ve already passed that ABs vs. LHPs total, but at least the Braves are up to eighth in league with a .249 average vs. lefties and ninth with a .705 OPS vs. lefties.
Prado and Chipper are two of the only Braves who've not struggled vs. lefties.
Much of that has to do with Prado, back in top form after his health-affected 2011 season. Against lefties, Prado leads Braves regulars by a wide margin with a .331 average (60-for-181) and 24 extra-base hits, a .503 slugging percentage and .891 OPS.
Next on the team is Reed Johnson, hitting .321 in 109 at-bats against lefties, including 8-for-25 with the Braves since being traded from the Cubs. Then it’s Chipper Jones at .310 (40-for-129) with a .392 OBP and .873 OPS.
But after that, Bourn (.284) is the only other active Brave hitting above .241 against lefties (Andrelton Simmons hit .295 with an .833 OPS in 44 at-bats vs. lefties before he got hurt).
Think about that. It’s not many Braves hitters doing well against lefties. Not at all. Uggla was supposed to be their right-handed power, but he’s hit .205 with five homers and 48 strikeouts in 142 at-bats vs. lefties.
• But about Medlen: How did we get so far off the Medlen path? That was what I began the blog with, talking about him bringing his streak into tonight’s game against the streaking Friars. And remember, Medlen is also a Southern California native, so he’ll have some friends and family here tonight from up the road in suburban L.A.
Since Medlen moved from the bullpen to the rotation nearly a month ago, he’s gone 4-0 with a microscopic 0.83 ERA and a .222 opponents’ average, with 29 strikeout and five walks in 32-2/3 innings.
He’s allowed no homers in 27-2/3 innings in four August starts, and in his past three starts he’s 3-0 with a 0.40 ERA, and 20 strikeouts against only two walks in 22-1/3 innings. He enters tonight’s game with a scoreless streak of 20-1/3 innings.
On the road this season, Medlen is 3-0 with a 1.60 ERA in 23 games (two starts).
In night games – home and road – he’s 5-0 with a 1.47 ERA in 29 games (four starts).
He’s been even better against lefties than against righties, holding lefties to a .217 average (34-for-157) with no homers, a .259 OPB and .280 slugging. Righties have a .241/.281/.316 slash line with two homers in 158 at-bats.
And finally, Medlen has a 10-2 record and 3.47 ERA in 23 career starts, including those as a rookie in 2009 when he looked like a deer in headlights.
He’s come a long way rather quickly, especially considering he missed 13 months recovering from Tommy John surgery.
BRAVES LINEUP
- Bourn cf
- Prado ss
- Heyward rf
- Chipper 3b
- Freeman 1b
- Johnson lf
- McCann c
- Uggla 2b
- Medlen p
• One more thing on Reed J: He leads the majors with 16 pinch-hits, and Reed Johnson has gone 3-for-6 as a pinch-hitter since coming to the Braves. That’s only four fewer hits than the Braves’ pinch-hits leader, and it’s taken Eric Hinske 46 at-bats to get his seven pinch hits.
Yikes.
The Braves were a poor pinch-hitting team before adding Reed Johnson, who leads the majors with 16 pinch hits.
Yes, the Braves were a bad pinch-hitting team before Johnson arrived. Very bad. They still rank next-to-last in the league with a .182 average (30-for-165) by pinch-hitters, but with Johnson on board they’ve got the best pinch-hitter in the majors. He’s got 16 pinch-hits and Eric Young (13) is the only other big-leaguer with more than 11 this season.
Johnson has a whopping .457 average (16-for-35) as a pinch-hitter, with a double, a homer, two walks and a 1.057 OPS. Not bad, huh?
I’d expect him to be in the lineup somewhere tonight against the lefty.
• RF production soars: In the mountain of stats I subjected you to in yesterday’s blog about Jason Heyward, there was still one really good set of numbers that I forgot to include. The Braves’ complete reversal in production from the right field position since last season. It’s drastic.
Braves right fielders – Heyward has started 117 of 129 games at the position — are ranked first in the NL in average (.286), second in OBP (.356), tied for second in slugging (.508), fourth in homers (24), and tied for first in stolen bases (19).
This after ranking last in the league in 2012 with a .238 average, .313 OBP and .378 slugging; 15th in RBIs; tied for 10th in homers; and sixth in steals. They already have 72 RBIs after finishing with 61 in 2011.
Heyward has all of the right fielders’ homers and stolen bases this season, and 67 of 72 RBIs from the position.
• Etc.
The Braves have hit just .212 with 31 runs during their 3-7 streak, and 14 of the runs came in two games Saturday and Sunday at San Francisco. They’ve scored two runs or fewer five times in 10 games….
Don’t look now, but those pesky Cardinals are 16-9 with a .282 average and 3.35 ERA in August, and 6-1 with a .357 average and 46 runs in their past seven games. Granted, that includes a sweep of Houston, but they also have a series win at Cincinnati in that stretch
Speaking of the Reds, they’ve finally cooled a bit, going 6-5 with a 4.80 ERA in their past 11….
McCann has hit .190 (12-for-63) with no extra-base hits and two RBIs in 19 August games….
Uggla talked a bit about coming within a couple of feet of hitting one out in straightaway center last night. He’s 3-for-31 (.097) with one double, no RBIs and one run in his past 10 games.
• Since we’re hoping that Peter Moylan will be among the September callups – having Moylan in the clubhouse is a good thing for all concerned – we’ll close this with a great tune by another Aussie, the legendary Nick Cave, here with his Bad Seeds. You can hear it by clicking here. By the way, if you haven’t heard, our man Jason Isbell has been busy recording a live album. And next week, the great Bob Mould’s got a rocking new CD coming out that Warren at Decatur CD played for me last week. It sounded terrific.
“DO YOU LOVE ME?” by Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds
I found her on a night of fire and noise
Wild bells rang in a wild sky
I knew from that moment on
I’d love her till the day that I died
And I kissed away a thousand tears
My lady of the Various Sorrows
Some begged, some borrowed, some stolen
Some kept safe for tomorrow
On an endless night, silver stars spangled
The bells from the chapel went jingle-jangle
Do you love me?
Do you love me?
Do you love me?
Do you love me?
Do you love me?
Do you love me?
Do you love me
Like I love you?
She was given to me to put things right
And I stacked all my accomplishments beside her
Yet, I seemed so obsolete and small
I found God and all His devils inside her
In my bed she cast the blizzard out
A mock sun blazed upon her head
So completely filled with light she was
Her shadow fanged and hairy and mad
Our love-lines grew hopelessly tangled
And the bells from the chapel went jingle-jangle
Do you love me?
Do you love me?
Do you love me?
Do you love me?
Do you love me?
Do you love me?
Do you love me
Like I love you?
She had a heartful of love and devotion
She had a mindful of tyranny and terror
Well, I try, I do, I really try
But I just err, baby, I do, I error
So come find me, my darling one
I’m down to the grounds, the very dregs
Ah, here she comes, blocking the sun
Blood running down the inside of her legs
The moon in the sky is battered and mangled
And the bells from the chapel go jingle-jangle
Do you love me?
Do you love me?
Do you love me?
Do you love me?
Do you love me?
Do you love me?
Do you love me
Like I love you?
All things move toward their end
I knew before I met her that I would lose her
I swear I made every effort to be good to her
I made every effort not to abuse her
Crazy bracelets on her wrists and her ankles
And the bells from the chapel go jingle-jangle
Do you love me?
Do you love me?
Do you love me?
Do you love me?
Do you love me?
Do you love me?
Do you love me
Like I love you?
– David O’Brien, Braves/MIB blog
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faninva
August 28th, 2012
5:31 pm
…on the lead lap…
faninva
August 28th, 2012
5:32 pm
winner!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
5:35 pm
Thanks DOB. Let’s go Braves. Keep Meds streak alive
nolie
August 28th, 2012
5:37 pm
Top SS runs saved
Top 30 SS per runs saved this year. 15-20 is always very good.
Ryan, Brendan 20
Escobar, Yunel 16
Hardy, J.J. 16
Simmons, Andrelton 14
Aviles, Mike 13
Barmes, Clint 12
Cozart, Zack 9
Ramirez, Alexei 9
Crawford, Brandon 8
Janish, Paul 8
Castro, Starlin 6
Andrus, Elvis 4
Espinosa, Danny 4
Parrino, Andy 3
Pennington, Cliff 3
Brignac, Reid 2
Ciriaco, Pedro 2
Florimon, Pedro 2
Galvis, Freddy 2
Greene, Tyler 2
McDonald, John 2
Peralta, Jhonny 2
Punto, Nick 2
Vizquel, Omar 2
nolie
August 28th, 2012
5:38 pm
Top Right Fielders runs saved
Heyward, Jason 16
Reddick, Josh 14
Suzuki, Ichiro 13
Stanton, Giancarlo 11
Hunter, Torii 10
Zobrist, Ben 9
Revere, Ben 8
Ethier, Andre 7
Rios, Alex 7
Cowgill, Collin 6
Denorfia, Chris 5
Parra, Gerardo 5
Beltran, Carlos 4
Blanco, Gregor 4
Bogusevic, Brian 4
Mastroianni, Darin 4
Mayberry, John 4
Sweeney, Ryan 4
Upton, Justin 4
Bixler, Brian 3
Aoki, Norichika 2
Bautista, Jose 2
Christian, Justin 2
Fuld, Sam 2
Amber Girl
August 28th, 2012
5:38 pm
Has Chipper gone surfing?
Heisenberg
August 28th, 2012
5:39 pm
Padres relief pitcher last night looks like the love child of Goose Gossage and Al Hrabosky.
nolie
August 28th, 2012
5:39 pm
Top CFers runs saved
Bourn, Michael 20
Trout, Mike 20
Span, Denard 16
Gentry, Craig 12
Harper, Bryce 12
Bourjos, Peter 8
Colvin, Tyler 7
Maxwell, Justin 7
Jay, Jon 6
Maybin, Cameron 6
Morgan, Nyjer 6
Young, Eric 6
Cain, Lorenzo 5
Crisp, Coco 4
Rasmus, Colby 4
Ruggiano, Justin 4
Barnes, Brandon 3
Gose, Anthony 3
Parra, Gerardo 3
Young, Chris 3
VaBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
5:42 pm
Lock Heyward up this offseason!
6 year deal 64 million
2013 4 million
2014 7 million
2015 11 million
2016 13 million
2017 14 million
2018 15 million
2019 Mutual Option 18 million
brian
August 28th, 2012
5:42 pm
I love watching Medlen pitch
Weaseal
August 28th, 2012
5:42 pm
No one cares who posted what we care about a- New Braves Win Streak Starts Tonight
Heisenberg
August 28th, 2012
5:42 pm
Uggla was supposed to be their right-handed power, but he’s hit .205…..
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At least his RH/LH splits are consistent.
brian
August 28th, 2012
5:43 pm
I have no problem with the Padres giving Chipper a surfboard. It more like a plaque honoring Chipper but San Diego style. For his trophy room.
Heisenberg
August 28th, 2012
5:45 pm
What else would have been an appropriate gift for CJ? A brick from the building in LF?
nolie
August 28th, 2012
5:49 pm
It more like a plaque honoring Chipper but San Diego style. For his trophy room….brian
yes, and humorous too IMO. very much a SoCal thing
nolie
August 28th, 2012
5:51 pm
22 runs saved between out two SS in just part of a season is almost amazing
Chris from the Rock
August 28th, 2012
5:53 pm
How about a day off for Freddie and Prado at 1st?
VaBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
5:54 pm
nolie
How many runs did Pastornicky cost us when he was starting?
Hugo Z Hackenbush
August 28th, 2012
5:56 pm
Hey, wait a minute…Castro is only 11th on your ss list? That’s got to be a misprint!
Venice Jim
August 28th, 2012
5:56 pm
Thanks, DOB! (approaching San Juan Capistrano)
Fredo
August 28th, 2012
5:56 pm
“Something’s gotta give, folks. It should be interesting.”
the “signs of collapse” side of me says that will be Medlen since he’s overdue, “remarkable team-record streak of 16 consecutive wins”, for a loss
Don
August 28th, 2012
5:57 pm
You know a slump is REALLY bad when a really big deal is made about a fly out to center field. I realize Uggla is great guy and all, but he I had to laugh when both the manager and beat writer find it necessary to celebrate an out.
nolie
August 28th, 2012
5:58 pm
why would Castro be a misprint? he was worse last season
Chop Chop
August 28th, 2012
5:58 pm
Medlen probably won’t lose tonight. He’s a Cali guy and wants to show out for the home folks. However, he is due to get plastered by someone. Let’s hope it’s an important game that costs us the season.
MFin04
August 28th, 2012
5:58 pm
Surely we aren’t just “accidentally” facing a lot of lefties? I think not. We struggle to win against lefties, therefore we face more than most. Not too hard to figure that one out.
Brava
August 28th, 2012
5:59 pm
Thank you, DOB.
Sounds like Reed Johnson should be playing more and Dan Uggla playing less.
I’ve been saying that for a couple of weeks now, but who am I to question Fredi Jesus?
Braveone
August 28th, 2012
5:59 pm
From the previous blog which had 1,344 comments, TheOnlyBravesFan led the way with 105 posts. There were 165 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:
Rank Poster Frequency
1 TheOnlyBravesFan 105
2 nolie 102
3 Efrim 41
4 Mark 39
5 Jeff R 38
6 phil 34
7 The A Bomb 31
8 Venice Jim 29
9 ACE 28
10 David O’Brien 28
11 Shaun 27
12 RC 26
13 Bat Masterson 25
14 MIBravesFan 25
15 richbrave 25
16 Brian from SC 24
17 Capt.Mudd 24
18 George 23
19 cricket 23
20 Citifield Jones 22
21 Animus 21
22 Brava 20
23 Trader Jack 20
24 IlliniBrave 18
25 Arkansas Transplant 17
nolie
August 28th, 2012
6:00 pm
Tyler = -16
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
6:00 pm
You mean a line drive to center that got caught with a great catch… a ball that got drilled 398 feet… that one.
nimwit
Brava
August 28th, 2012
6:00 pm
nolie, where does Martin rank among LF (if you have that information available)?
VaBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
6:02 pm
2. Braves
Actual record: 73-56
WAR record: 71-58
Determination: Lots of good defense.
I was a columnist in Augusta when the Atlanta Braves went from worst to first in 1991 and went on one of the most extraordinary 15-year runs in baseball history. Everyone knows that the run was fueled by amazing starting pitching led by three men, Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine and John Smoltz, who will all end up in the Baseball Hall of Fame. Obviously there were some terrific hitters over that stretch — Chipper Jones, Andruw Jones, Gary Sheffield for a couple of years, J.D. Drew in 2004, David Justice, Ron Gant and so on — but that pitching was such an overwhelming part of the story that it’s hard not to think of the Braves as pitching first.
They are not. Brandon Beachy was unhittable for a while there, and Tim Hudson is still offering professional craftsmanship, but the guys who were supposed to lead one of the best staffs in baseball — Jair Jurrjens and Tommy Hanson in particular — have not.
The Braves’ WAR suggests they are winning games with not only their hitting (second in the league in runs scored) but with some great defense — they are more than 7 ½ wins above replacement, which is a pretty astonishing number. WAR’s defensive numbers are contentious, but as Tom Tango points out: They are consistent. The standings say the Braves are 2 ½ games up on the Dodgers in the wild card race. WAR says the Braves — with great defensive play from Michael Bourn, rookie shortstop Andrelton Simmons (before he got hurt) and outfielder Jason Heyward among others — are six games better defensively. You don’t have to buy it, but it’s interesting.
Brava
August 28th, 2012
6:03 pm
nolie, that’s very impressive for Simmons, considering he hasn’t played the entire season. I imagine he’ll top the list next season.
J-MAN
August 28th, 2012
6:03 pm
I believe everything should be up to debate. I believe Fredi is a below average manager at best, I believe Uggla should be benched or sent to AAA, I believe McCann is hurt and shouldve been placed on the DL two weeks ago. I believe Hanson shouldnt be a starter anymore, Degado deserves another shot and has better stuff. I believe we need to get back to stealing more bases and working the count instead of swinging for the fences everytime. We need Fredi to show some fire and argue some bad calls. Also remember last season we had a better record and a much bigger WC lead so there is good reason to have doubts. Now thats how I feel if you want to debate me good because I love hearing the other side of the coin. But if your gonna drop insults and lame name calling then that cool too because you just lack the intelligence to properly debate me.
nolie
August 28th, 2012
6:05 pm
Top LFers
Gordon, Alex 14
Prado, Martin 10
Braun, Ryan 9
Jennings, Desmond 8
Animus
August 28th, 2012
6:06 pm
Janish with a day off and not Uggla against a LH pitcher? Hope it works out.
VaBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
6:07 pm
Our next 14 games are against teams under 500. and then we have a 3 game series vs the Nats. If there is any shot at catching the Nationals this is the time to do it!
Were only 5 games behind and the Nationals and they are on a 4 game losing streak.
Animus
August 28th, 2012
6:07 pm
Hey nolie – thanks for the info on the fielders. So the Braves have the #1 RF/CF and #2 LF in runs saved. Sounds like the pitching staff should be buying all the drinks for them!
Mikey
August 28th, 2012
6:08 pm
I think “hang ten” which is s surfing term for you land locked ATL’s & Chippers number 10 had something to do with the board. Either that or he uses it for target practice.
VaBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
6:09 pm
Safe to say that if we just rolled with Simmons from the get go we’d probably have a couple more wins.
CB
August 28th, 2012
6:09 pm
Uggla batting 8th. How the mighty have fallen.
Animus
August 28th, 2012
6:11 pm
Hmmm – looking at the starting lineup again – a Left and Right all the way down. A consequence is Uggla bats 8th!!! I just hope that’s a wakeup call for him.
VaBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
6:11 pm
I know some don’t like Denard Span as a possible trade target to replace Bourn cause of his home/road batting splits, but he’s a damn good fielder and fits the budget. Maintaining this great defense will be key. Tho I think our chances of keeping Bourn are under 10%
nolie
August 28th, 2012
6:11 pm
NL Team Runs Saved
Atlanta Braves………………56
St Louis Cardinals…………23
Arizona Diamondbacks…..22
Cincinnati Reds……………13
Los Angeles Dodgers…….10
Chicago Cubs……………….4
Pittsburgh Pirates………….3
Philadelphia Phillies………-4
Milwaukee Brewers……….-5
Washington Nationals….-13
San Francisco Giants….-18
San Diego Padres……….-20
New York Mets…………..-32
Miami Marlins…………….-39
Houston Astros…………..-52
Colorado Rockies………..-67
Hugo Z Hackenbush
August 28th, 2012
6:13 pm
Sorry, have to disagree. Our chances of keeping Bourn are 12.7%…
nolie
August 28th, 2012
6:14 pm
yeah Span is a good fielder, but his splits raise questions and if I have to look at another LHed hitter added to the team I am gonna hurl
Hugo Z Hackenbush
August 28th, 2012
6:16 pm
However, I think there’s a 100% chance that someone here will insult Dan Uggla before midnight…
VaBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
6:17 pm
nolie
True, but he’d be taking Bourn’s spot. We really do need a RH hitter besides Uggla who can bat 5th to break up JHey,FF,Mac. Cause at this point I don’t think we can depend on Uggla in the middle of the lineup. Thinking ahead Uggla would be batting 7th to start out 2013 with Simmons 8th.
VaBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
6:20 pm
Hopefully Uggla can just get back to mashing the ball with 3 years left on his deal that’s all we can do… Just play 150 games be able to hit around 250. with 30 dingers and i’ll be happy.
Peter R.
August 28th, 2012
6:20 pm
I guess there’s always next year. McCann back to normal with the surgery and Uggla not being as bad? Plus payroll being cleared. I’m banking on what next season will bring. I thought this year was going to be a complete wash for the team. Kind of surprised to this day as to what they’ve accomplished. Blame the players this time and not the general management. I’m kind of indifferent on whether we should spend the big bucks to keep Bourn. The first two of months of the year he was incredible and now he has just gone back to being the player he was with the Stros with less steals.
nolie
August 28th, 2012
6:20 pm
yes we do because Uggla hits like a damn lefty too. he is much better against righties and not so good against lefties no matter that he hits right. I want another RHed hitter. I am tired of leading the league in IP against lefties
J-MAN
August 28th, 2012
6:24 pm
Uggla hasnt hit anyone since June 10. Thats when his “Slump” began
nolie
August 28th, 2012
6:24 pm
I don’t hate Span, but if that is the best we can do I will be disappointed unless they pick up a great hitting LF/3B and I don’t see both happening
anti-negative guy
August 28th, 2012
6:25 pm
peter R blame the players for what?
VaBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
6:25 pm
With Uggla I don’t care about AVG and OBP.. We just need him to SLG. 30+ homers with a 460+ SLG and watch the RBI totals rack up. That’s what we paid him to do. He’s never been a good hitter, he’s your classic slugger.
eddie57
August 28th, 2012
6:28 pm
When Simmons comes back he should hit ahead of Ugglier not behind him. It’s pretty pathetic when the most positive thing Ugglier has done lately is fly out to deep centerfield.
Here Comes Honey Boo Boo
August 28th, 2012
6:29 pm
David O’Brien@ajcbraves
#Braves lineup: Bourn cf, Prado ss, Heyward rf, Jones 3b, Freeman 1b, Johnson lf, McCann c, Uggla 2b, Medlen p
J-MAN
August 28th, 2012
6:30 pm
@ VaBravesFan thats true to an extent but we expected at least .260 from Uggla and also Uggla hasnt hit the HRs like he usually does only 4 since June 10. In fact if you take Uggla 34 game hitting streak away Uggla is batting under .200 as a Brave. So the question for debate is has Uggla just lost it and is it really a slump or is this gonna be his normal play from here on.
VaBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
6:33 pm
nolie
Span only makes 4.75 million next season. We could trade for him and still have plenty of payroll flexibility to add a quality bat for LF/3B
nolie
August 28th, 2012
6:36 pm
With Uggla I don’t care about AVG and OBP.. We just need him to SLG. 30+ homers with a 460+ SLG and watch the RBI totals rack up
I certainly care about him not making outs, but he slugs less too against lefties,
and RBI are much dependent on where he bats not just how many homers he hits, or homers would have a higher correlation with runs scored than they do
eddie57
August 28th, 2012
6:37 pm
Hugo, no sense waiting till game time to bash Ugglier.
VaBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
6:38 pm
Uggla owned a nice slash line of 263/349/488/837 before coming to Atlanta. (5 seasons in FLA)
222/324/416/740 as a Brave
Very Alarming. You’d think that the whole pressure of a big contract would be gone, so it could very well be Uggla falling off a cliff at 31 years old.
phoenix
August 28th, 2012
6:38 pm
Why, why, why? Why has the Braves defense been depleted tonight, just to keep Uggla’s horrible bat in the lineup? Prado at SS, Uggla with a bat. Advantage: Padres.
Sylvester Bill
August 28th, 2012
6:39 pm
J-MAN
Hard to argue with you on that 6:03 post. I just wish Fredi would go out there and show his butt once in a while. Was waiting for him to take up with Marteen in the first inning last night, but a no show as usual.
Bama Braves
August 28th, 2012
6:39 pm
Span Does not Wont To Leave The Twins.
nolie
August 28th, 2012
6:40 pm
Obviously Washington bribed Fredi, phoenix…..
JD
August 28th, 2012
6:40 pm
Terrible lineup. Fredo just has to let his boy play no matter how much it hurts the team. Prado should be at 2B and Janish at SS. McCann, Uggla and the pitcher is a huge black hole at the back of the lineup.
Here Comes Honey Boo Boo
August 28th, 2012
6:40 pm
prado isnt a ss ! dont fredi get it ?! yessh !
nolie
August 28th, 2012
6:41 pm
Uggla is certainly not the first player to come here and struggla
Bravofan
August 28th, 2012
6:41 pm
Prado playing short and Uggla in the 8 hole interesting
Brava
August 28th, 2012
6:42 pm
Thanks, nolie. I figured Martin had to be in the top ten. He’s just so good at everything.
nolie
August 28th, 2012
6:42 pm
he may not want to Bama, but AFAIK he has no ability to stop a trade
Here Comes Honey Boo Boo
August 28th, 2012
6:42 pm
uggla next to the pitcher.
phoenix
August 28th, 2012
6:42 pm
Fredi: “We just need to pick Uggla’s spots.” I agree. I’m thinking Japan.
ACE
August 28th, 2012
6:43 pm
DOB says leave the tough questions to the columist. He should leave trade rumors like the Griffey debacle to them also. If you don’t believe me ask Hudson.
nolie
August 28th, 2012
6:43 pm
yeah Brava, but I gotta admit that I was a bit surprised by his being second
DiamondbackMac
August 28th, 2012
6:43 pm
Animus & Nolie
So the Braves have the #1 RF/CF and #2 LF in runs saved.
If you combine Simmons and Janish (22) we have the #1 SS in runs saved.
Lew
August 28th, 2012
6:44 pm
Why? Maybe it has something to do with Janish getting a day off rayher than keeping “Uggla’s horrible bat in the lineup”. You’d rather Pastornicky with little experience and a terrible fielder and weak hitter himself at second just because you hate Uggla?
Dude’s definitely been disappointing this year, but we’ve seen him break loose before and if he does now, we could well overtake the Nats. Since no one else we have guarantees us any offense, it would be beneficial to have him in the lineup in case he does break loose = not as if he’s holding someone better back from receiving playing time..
nolie
August 28th, 2012
6:44 pm
what exactly is it that you get out of attacking DOB, ACE?
Here Comes Honey Boo Boo
August 28th, 2012
6:44 pm
yeah, gary sheffield came here and only hit 38 hr in each year here…
Animus
August 28th, 2012
6:44 pm
Fredi doesn’t seem to have the desire to argue about calls he know won’t get changed. The play at first last night with Prado being a perfect example. BUT…the only one arguing was Prado, I didn’t see TP say anything either – he’s a coach, great position to see/hear the play…maybe Fredi was taking a cue from him?
That being said, there’s nothing wrong with a manager showing the umpires he’s not afraid to step onto the field and question a call – don’t have to go out and get tossed, just let them know you WILL show your players and the fans that you’re not afraid to show an ump he blew a call.
nolie
August 28th, 2012
6:45 pm
If you combine Simmons and Janish (22) we have the #1 SS in runs saved. Mac
true, but then you gotta include Tyler
Here Comes Honey Boo Boo
August 28th, 2012
6:46 pm
marquis grissom had at least 100 hits and 200 hits in his final year here…
VaBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
6:47 pm
nolie
I agree with that, but I’d take a 2011 Uggla from here on out with the current lineup around him. I just don’t see Uggla coming back to his Florida form. So if I had to pick something that he could maintain it would be slugging. Give us around 60 XBH
nolie
August 28th, 2012
6:47 pm
gary sheffield came here and only hit 38 hr in each year here
so what, I never said that none have succeeded, but we have seen a number that haven’t too, which is what I said BooBoo
Animus
August 28th, 2012
6:47 pm
Hey DiamondbackMac – getting wet? Raining hard here, lot’s of wind – looks like you’re still under tornado warning? Be safe man.
DiamondbackMac
August 28th, 2012
6:50 pm
nolie
true, but then you gotta include Tyler
Ouch!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
6:54 pm
Blue Jays first round draft choice Marcus Stroman has been suspended for 50 games for violating the minor league drug prevention and treatment program, the team announced. Stroman…maintains that he “unknowingly ingested a banned stimulant that was in an over-the-counter supplement.”
He wasn’t the only former first rounder suspended today. Josh Sale, who was selected 17th overall by the Rays in 2010, also obtained a 50-game suspension, according to Roger Mooney of the Tampa Tribune (on Twitter).
Sigh…. these people keep killing their bodies… and baseball doesn’t do enough to discourage it. Look at Melky, A-Roid, and Balco Bonds…. need stronger punishments.
Max Sizemore
August 28th, 2012
7:01 pm
Hey, nolie, great stuff. Keep it coming.
DiamondbackMac
August 28th, 2012
7:02 pm
Animus
Nothing here yet.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 28th, 2012
7:03 pm
Dang! BMac got bumped back down to #7 again? And why no Janish? Boo…
Ken Stallings
August 28th, 2012
7:17 pm
Well, truly it is another need to win situation for the Braves. They need to win this series versus the Padres and thereby salvage a .500 road trip. Kris Medlen needs to step up again and delivery a gem and hope the offense can solve the riddle and score some runs.
mpimentel
August 28th, 2012
7:19 pm
Uggla will rebound for sure…and it will be in sept when it counts…btw we wont gioing to find a CF like bourn, but we could find someone a defensive, healthier one (pierre?)…the biggest hole to fill in will be a LF, if prado came back to 3d… And assuming that prado will be at 3d the infield will lokk great ( prado, fransisco,pastor,simmons,janish,uggla,freeman)…well I think that pastor could be tradeed on winter!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
7:22 pm
Dan Uggla, hitting instructor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqiUQHnO3z4&feature=related
mpimentel
August 28th, 2012
7:23 pm
What in span’s off line this season…maybe we can make a deal for him (on winter)…geez I will love to have bourn back.
brian
August 28th, 2012
7:23 pm
Hopefully the braves can take this one tonight. Take 2 out of 3 in SD and have a .500 road trip
Arthur Redding, Jr.
August 28th, 2012
7:23 pm
Is this the Best Braves Line-up Right Now?
Bourn CF
Prado 2B
Heyward RF
Jones 3B
Freeman 1B
Johnson LF
Ross C
Janish SS
Hudson P
brian
August 28th, 2012
7:26 pm
McCann hitting 7th and Uggla hitting 8th works for me. Fredi went with a stronger hitting lineup with Prado at SS
brian
August 28th, 2012
7:27 pm
yes it is arthur
MFin04
August 28th, 2012
7:32 pm
Uggla hitting 8th. Gotta be the best 8th hitter in all of baseball, right? At least the most powerful.
This lineup is great. Defense probably isn’t as good, but defense can’t win games when we score 0 runs.
bravesgrl4life
August 28th, 2012
7:34 pm
Go Braves!!!
Trader Jack
August 28th, 2012
7:34 pm
Marlins 2 Nats 0
Jerry
August 28th, 2012
7:35 pm
Uggla talked about that ball he almost hit out. That in a nutshell is his problem. I’d like to hear him talk more about that liner up the middle, or that hit through the right side. Somehow he has forgotten that the homers will come if he would just try to make good contact and stop trying to kill the damn thing. What a lost cause he is.
Animus
August 28th, 2012
7:37 pm
Jerry I think he only talked about it because that’s the one he was asked about. He may have mentioned his other AB’s, but those comments didn’t make the cut. Unless there exists film I haven’t seen?
Mark Duncan
August 28th, 2012
7:38 pm
Have to feel good with Medlen going. While the offense of course is streaky it inspires much more confidence than the last two years. The defense, rotation, and bullpen all appear playoff caliber. Fredi as manager? Questionable at best. Go Braves!
Animus
August 28th, 2012
7:38 pm
Film of him talking to reporters I mean.
Ralph
August 28th, 2012
7:41 pm
DOB
Since we’re hoping that Peter Moylan will be among the September callups
Don’t count ME when you sat WE, He can’t even get AAA hitters out so why on earth would we want Moylan over Gearrin?
MFin04
August 28th, 2012
7:41 pm
Beltran can throw runners out too.
DAM
August 28th, 2012
7:43 pm
At this point a stronger offensive lineup would include Rev over Uggla. My goodness it is painful to watch Uggla swing the bat.
MFin04
August 28th, 2012
7:44 pm
I’m betting Yadier Molina just got a concussion.
Ralph
August 28th, 2012
7:46 pm
Like I said yesterday, this is a Pennant race we’re in, not a personality contest. I know Moylan is probably a good guy in the clubhouse but we’re talking about a valuable roster spot and until he shows he can still pitch lets just keep him in the clubhouse and off the field.
Casey
August 28th, 2012
7:47 pm
@David O’Brien “It’s not many Braves hitters doing well against lefties.”
Seriously, man? Did you proof this at all?
Arthur Redding, Jr.
August 28th, 2012
7:47 pm
For the months of June, July, and August, Uggla is hitting .159.
For the month of August, McCann is hitting .190 with ZERO extra base hits and 2 RBIs.
The Braves are in a tight race to make the play-offs. Can they afford to let these guys (as much as I like them) continue to be their everyday players down the stretch?
George
August 28th, 2012
7:49 pm
Don
August 28th, 2012
5:57 pm
Don
You do know FREDI and DOB are friends so they will say the same things.
jeffrey d
August 28th, 2012
7:49 pm
Oh George found a buddy
David O'Brien
August 28th, 2012
7:51 pm
Braves lineup: Bourn cf, Prado ss, Heyward rf, Jones 3b, Freeman 1b, Johnson lf, McCann c, Uggla 2b, Medlen p
First time Uggla’s ever hit 8th.
Fredi Gonzalez wanted Johnson in lineup and will again tomorrow vs. LHP. He’s not sure who’ll be out tomorrow, could be Chipper, with Prado playing third. If Chipper feels like he could use a day off.
Ralph
August 28th, 2012
7:52 pm
Medlen’s streak will cone to an end tonight with Uggla and McCann in the line-up. Ross should be in against the lefty.
MFin04
August 28th, 2012
7:53 pm
I’m betting Uggla gets a few walks batting 8th, a la Nate McLouth.
George
August 28th, 2012
7:53 pm
Hope the BRAVES do well for VJ and cab.
brian
August 28th, 2012
7:53 pm
johnson needs to be in the lineup versus the lefties. I am glad that Fredi is playing him. Uggla should get the seat tomorrow if CHipper is playing
David O'Brien
August 28th, 2012
7:53 pm
DOB can take most of it AMBER hes had worse days than this. Ive gave him far worse.
He will make it just give him some BBQ and hell forget all about everybody heckling him. — J-MAN
Amusing. Delusional, but amusing. Like a couple of other folks on here.
Here Comes Honey Boo Boo
August 28th, 2012
7:57 pm
alvarez –
Bravefaninok(Amusing. Delusional, but amusing. Like a couple of other folks on here".)
August 28th, 2012
7:57 pm
I think I will keep that as my new moniker
David O'Brien
August 28th, 2012
7:58 pm
DOB says leave the tough questions to the columist. He should leave trade rumors like the Griffey debacle to them also. If you don’t believe me ask Hudson. — ACE
You mean the story we had about Griffey telling his good friend (and former Braves bat boy) that he was coming to the Braves? Actually, that was a columnist that got that. Our former columnist, Terry Moore, who knew the guy well. I wrote the story, though. And we stood by the information and do to this day. I did NOT write that he was going to play for the Braves. I wrote that he told his friend he was going to. Which he did.
He then changed his mind.
Problem was, the headline stated that he was going to play for the Braves. I had no say in the headline, didn’t see it till it was in the paper. But since my name was on the story, I took all the heat.
But I’m a big boy, and I took it then and can still take it today from the obsessed few who still bring it up. So go ahead. Mention it every hour on the hour, if that’s what does it for you. By addressing this now, I know I’m giving you the attention you crave and only encouraging you to keep bringing it up. But that’s because I don’t care.
So please, feel free.
Ralph
August 28th, 2012
7:58 pm
I would assume that anyone who disagrees with DOB on his blog is Delusional!
mjn99
August 28th, 2012
8:02 pm
Mrlins 5 Wash 0
"Chef" Tim Dix
August 28th, 2012
8:03 pm
Chipper don’t surf.
raleighbravefan
August 28th, 2012
8:04 pm
ACE – Should be spelled ASS.
mjn99
August 28th, 2012
8:04 pm
Strasburg looks awful
"Chef" Tim Dix
August 28th, 2012
8:05 pm
Much like Bisher on Thanksgiving, I miss T. Moore’s annual plea to get Junior.
"Chef" Tim Dix
August 28th, 2012
8:06 pm
And don’t call him Terry.
raleighbravefan
August 28th, 2012
8:09 pm
Strasburg getting knocked around so far tonight. 5 runs in 3 innings.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
August 28th, 2012
8:09 pm
VaBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
6:02 pm
Ditto that my friend. Pitching….defense, it’s as old as the game and time tested as the winning formula.
njbraves
August 28th, 2012
8:10 pm
ACE…your nonsense is so transparent. You enjoy having DOB reply to you, must make you feel special, so you post nothing but crap that you know will get the guys attention. Just shut up already.
raleighbravefan
August 28th, 2012
8:12 pm
Nolasko no hit through 4. Go Marlins.
Ralph
August 28th, 2012
8:13 pm
Arthur Redding, Jr.
August 28th, 2012
7:23 pm
Is this the Best Braves Line-up Right Now?
Bourn CF
Prado 2B
Heyward RF
Jones 3B
Freeman 1B
Johnson LF
Ross C
Janish SS
Hudson P
No doubt about it and should be used everyday!
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
August 28th, 2012
8:13 pm
Anybody ever ate at Dickey’s BBQ? We just got one up here and it sucks. I’m so disappointed. However, Fargo has a Famous Daves BBQ restaurant and it is awesome.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
8:17 pm
If Molina is indeed concussed, that’s a huge blow to the Cards playoff chances…
Mark
August 28th, 2012
8:18 pm
Like the lineup tonight better. As good as Yawnish has been, he isn’t going to run into many and help us score. Uggla 8th is better than him hitting 5,6,or 7.
Maybe we can get it going tonight!
Bravefaninok
August 28th, 2012
8:18 pm
mjn99
August 28th, 2012
8:04 pm
Strasburg looks awful
Now when they shut him down they will say he looks tired/ineffective and nobody can argue.
mjn99
August 28th, 2012
8:18 pm
6-0 Mia
SMOLTZ 29
August 28th, 2012
8:20 pm
Uggla should be hitting 9th tonite. If LaRussa was managing this team, it would happen on a daily basis! MERCY
mjn99
August 28th, 2012
8:20 pm
IF mia holds on tonight and the braves win, that stupid loss yesterday could of meant 3 out instead of 4. Hate giving away games like last night.
the truth...
August 28th, 2012
8:22 pm
I just read the lineup above and my reaction was feeling two emotions when I saw Uggla’s name in there again……………
Sick to my stomach…………..
Anger at Fredi for either being stupid or blind………….or……
The fact of the matter is simple……….this is not the best lineup he could “run out there”………….
Prado at 2nd, Janish at SS……………
And Uggla on his but on the bench where he belongs…………………
phil
August 28th, 2012
8:23 pm
I see ACE is in his pesky mosquito mode tonight….
bustersonly
August 28th, 2012
8:23 pm
Why is McCann in tonight’s line up against a lefty, Ross batting about 40 points better and better on defense?????????
Trey
August 28th, 2012
8:24 pm
Happy birthday, Tommy Hanson.
southgabrave
August 28th, 2012
8:25 pm
@ Ralph
I agree and the only change should be when Simmons comes back. We should ride that horse until it faulters. An occassional start for B Mac to rest Ross and maybe a start every so often(seldom) for Uggla.
We still need bench help. I hope someone steps up from the call-ups coming in Sept.
phil
August 28th, 2012
8:26 pm
Hanson will celebrate with a during the game six pack, i hear….
Ralph
August 28th, 2012
8:26 pm
I feel sorry for Medlen tonight, he will need to keep the streak going for 9 innings or more.
phil
August 28th, 2012
8:27 pm
Why is anyone in tonight’s lineup? It’s a lefty, it’s his second ever start, we’re doomed…..
But maybe not.
raleighbravefan
August 28th, 2012
8:27 pm
phil – Will there be chicken with that?
Brava
August 28th, 2012
8:28 pm
Go Fish!
Trey
August 28th, 2012
8:28 pm
phil, with a big ol’ birthday cake and a keg stand. Hopefully Hanson doesn’t spew in the dugout, phil.
Rico
August 28th, 2012
8:29 pm
Why weakeen the defense by putting Prado at SS. Uggla should be on the bench. This is about trying to win the division not keeping Uggla happy.
Ralph
August 28th, 2012
8:30 pm
southgabrave – true and DOB wants to bring up Moylan
Efrim
August 28th, 2012
8:30 pm
Not sure if this was mentioned, but Mac Thomason, author of Braves Journal blog is nearing the end of his battle with cancer: http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/mac-thomason-of-braves-journal-nears-the-end-of-his-battle-with-cancer/
Jerry
August 28th, 2012
8:30 pm
Looks like we are the only team that can’t beat the Nats right now.
Jerry
August 28th, 2012
8:32 pm
You are wrong Rico. This IS all about keeping Uggla happy. Otherwise he would not be playing.
Brava
August 28th, 2012
8:32 pm
I hate the lineup, but Fredi has never been famous for putting the best team possible on the field at any given time. I just wonder, if any other player on the team had been performing as poorly as Uggla, would he get to play so much? Somehow, I doubt it. I remember Jason being benched quite a bit last season, when he was struggling.
raleighbravefan
August 28th, 2012
8:33 pm
Ralph – DOB loves Moylan in the clubhouse. He’s a good influence…keeps the guys loose, even if he can’t pitch….and is great for a quote or two.
Jerry
August 28th, 2012
8:34 pm
With the Nats losing big tonight, that guarantees that the Braves will lose. I just hope they do it in a way as not to make Medlen the loser.
phil
August 28th, 2012
8:34 pm
Nah…uggla hitting 8th actually makes sense.
raleighbravefan
August 28th, 2012
8:35 pm
Brava – Heyward was hurt quite a bit last year.
Ralph
August 28th, 2012
8:35 pm
ATTENTION FREDI GONZALEZ
We have a chance to pick up a game on the Nats tonight, Are you sure you don’t want to change that stupid line-up?
David O'Brien
August 28th, 2012
8:36 pm
It’s 7-0 Marlins in bottom of the 5th against Strasburg.
raleighbravefan
August 28th, 2012
8:36 pm
Some here hate Fredi, some hate Uggla, some hate both. One plays on the other.
Brava
August 28th, 2012
8:36 pm
True, raleigh, but not always when he was benched.
Jerry
August 28th, 2012
8:37 pm
Brava,
What irks me the most, and I don’t get on Fredi a whole lot, is the multitude of lineup changes he makes. I swear I have never seen a manager refuse to put the same team on the field for more than a few games at a time like Fredi does. I don’t even care if Uggla is in the lineup, just put 8 guys out there and let them play for a few games.
raleighbravefan
August 28th, 2012
8:38 pm
Just saw Jason Werth’s picture. I think he is in the witness protection program. What a beard.
Brava
August 28th, 2012
8:38 pm
I’d love to see the Fish sweep the Marlins. That should destroy any confidence they have left after being swept by the Phils. And I know, before everyone tells me so, the Phils are playing very well lately.
Ralph
August 28th, 2012
8:38 pm
raleighbravefan _ I agree but bring him in as a spectator.!
raleighbravefan
August 28th, 2012
8:40 pm
Jerry – He has had to deal with a lot of injuries both years…and he was criticized for wearing guys out last year…a major factor in the infamous September swoon. He is almost paranoid about resting guys now.
Brava
August 28th, 2012
8:41 pm
Yep, Jerry. He did the same thing last season. He seems to manage in constant chaos. That the Braves have such a good record is a testament to the talent of the players, because Fredi sure isn’t giving them much help.
Jerry
August 28th, 2012
8:41 pm
As for whether or not the Nationals decide to shut Strasburg down or not, I’d almost be willing to bet that if he continues to pitch throughout, he will look like he looks tonight. A power pitcher with his hook that has never pitched that late into a season before tells me that he’ll wear down, if he isn’t already.
Kat
August 28th, 2012
8:43 pm
A foul ball hit a kid and Chipper came over to make sure he was okay and gave the kid his batting gloves.
Hmmmm
August 28th, 2012
8:43 pm
“I remember Jason being benched quite a bit last season, when he was struggling”
if you look up some quotes by Fredi when he sat Heyward he says, “he’s going with the hot hand” (Constanza over Heyward). In this case if you replaced him with the “hotter hand” Prado, you’d be playing Prado in a position he’s not really use to. So currently they don’t really have a hotter hand who plays 2nd but if they did maybe we might see Uggla sitting a bit more often.
Brava
August 28th, 2012
8:44 pm
Okay, I know it’s bad, but I found this funny.
Drew @emrysx
Just sitting in line at McDonalds, staring at a stream of dumpster juice flowing down the lot. Thinkin’ of Dan.
Jerry
August 28th, 2012
8:44 pm
raleighbravefan,
He was criticized about his overuse of the bullpen. Not once did I hear complaints that they players were tired.
raleighbravefan
August 28th, 2012
8:44 pm
This is why I have continued to predict a Nats drop-off. Young guys, especially some pitchers, who have never played this much before. They may start to look like we did end of last year.
raleighbravefan
August 28th, 2012
8:45 pm
Jerry – Fair enough. I’m too old to remember.
DiamondbackMac
August 28th, 2012
8:45 pm
Lew
Gotta love this quote from Mac Thomason.
“Philadelphia, known as “The City of Brotherly Love” ever since Benjamin Franklin invented sarcasm in 1767, is the largest city in Pennsylvania and a suburb of New York.”
Brava
August 28th, 2012
8:46 pm
Really, Hmmmm? Are you trying to tell me Prado is a more natural shortstop, which he’s playing tonight, than a second baseman, a position at which he was selected to the All-Star game? Um, okay.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 28th, 2012
8:46 pm
Just read about Molina…yikes. Don’t think I wanna watch that video…
raleighbravefan
August 28th, 2012
8:46 pm
Gotta go. Let’s win tonight!
Arthur Redding, Jr.
August 28th, 2012
8:47 pm
Hard to believe Reed Johnson has only 1 RBI since joining the Braves.
Anyone old enough to remember Ken Oberkfell, Braves’ full-time 3B in the mid-80’s? He’d hit around .275 and get around 35-40 RBI’s over the course of a season. Not really comparing him to Johnson, just remembering a guy who was all BA and no production.
Sopheee
August 28th, 2012
8:47 pm
In this case if you replaced him with the “hotter hand” Prado, you’d be playing Prado in a position he’s not really use to. So currently they don’t really have a hotter hand who plays 2nd but if they did maybe we might see Uggla sitting a bit more often.
Wait, what? Are you saying Marteen isn’t used to 2B?
iowabrave
August 28th, 2012
8:48 pm
Martin Prado = Jose Oquendo with a bat. Whitey woulda called Prado his “Secret Atomic Weapon”
Ralph
August 28th, 2012
8:50 pm
Clone Prado, make 9 copies!
Jerry
August 28th, 2012
8:50 pm
raleighbravefan
August 28th, 2012
8:45 pm
Jerry – Fair enough. I’m too old to remember.
Lol. I’ll buy that. Personally, I’m just to old to really give a crap.
Trey
August 28th, 2012
8:50 pm
Eh, the lineup is still better than what we had in 2009.
Brava
August 28th, 2012
8:51 pm
There you go, Ralph. We’d have one heck of a team.
Mark
August 28th, 2012
8:52 pm
Before the Mahomie/Johnson trade I wanted Diaz/Constanza platooning in left and Prado at 2B. Now, I’d rather have Johnson play left and Prado at 2B. I think we would have been better before the trade and would have more wins under our belt with Constanza/Diaz and now we are better with Johnson playing regularly. Uggla reached the point of no return a while back in my opinion. Not because of what he was hitting 215 but because of how. He lets FBs down the middle go, then will wave at offspeed pitches off the plate.
I was Ugglas biggest critic on here and caught some grief because many thought inevitable “hot streak” would lead us to the promised land in August but I was convinced then, and I still am now, that it isn’t going to happen consistently again.
I gave my word that I would stop bashing Uggs and I did and this post isn’t meant to be a bashing. Its more of, I wish FG would sit Uggla now because he is a train wreck. He tries hard, he is obviously pressing badly, and the failures he is going through is destroying his ability to ever play well again. Sure he makes a lot of money and thats pointed out often on here but that isn’t his fault. I feel badly for the guy. Not like he has a crappy attitude or loafs and he feels worse about his performance right now than anyone on this blog.
Brava
August 28th, 2012
8:52 pm
That’s very nice of Chipper, Kat, and I’ll bet it made that kid’s day.
MFin04
August 28th, 2012
8:52 pm
Looks like it is time to shut Strasburg down.
Animus
August 28th, 2012
8:54 pm
MFin04
August 28th, 2012
8:52 pm
Looks like it is time to shut Strasburg down.
Nope, if he keeps pitching like he has tonight – Keep running him out there
Jerry
August 28th, 2012
8:55 pm
In this case if you replaced him with the “hotter hand” Prado, you’d be playing Prado in a position he’s not really use to. So currently they don’t really have a hotter hand who plays 2nd but if they did maybe we might see Uggla sitting a bit more often.
Dude, that was an amazing statement to make. You should have used another alias so it won’t be stuck to you for an extended period.
George
August 28th, 2012
8:55 pm
phil
August 28th, 2012
8:26 pm
Hanson will celebrate with a during the game six pack, i hear….
*******************************************************
And KFC?
Kat
August 28th, 2012
8:56 pm
And I believe the kid is a Braves fan. Which is a great plus to the kid.
Brava
August 28th, 2012
8:56 pm
Marlins – 9
Nats – 0
Bottom of the 6th. Wow!
Animus
August 28th, 2012
8:57 pm
9-0 Marlins, bottom 6. Braves have a real shot at making up a game tonight…albeit with an inferior lineup. Someone has to step up tonight and hit.
Brava
August 28th, 2012
8:58 pm
Yes, that makes it even better, Kat.
Don
August 28th, 2012
8:59 pm
@TheOnlyBravesFan Oh I am sorry – I did not realize they were counting runs on almost’s these days let me check the score. …. Well you now what you are the nimwit as the score did not change and I see nothing in the box score. Almosts only count in horse shoes and not baseball.
George
August 28th, 2012
9:00 pm
Brava
August 28th, 2012
8:38 pm
The FISH are the MARLINS, are am I wrong?
mark
August 28th, 2012
9:00 pm
how is uggla batting ahead of medlen
Mark
August 28th, 2012
9:01 pm
Don
Hand grenades too!
Felix
August 28th, 2012
9:01 pm
Uggla should be on the bench. But since the Braves management insist on putting him in the line up, he should be batting 9th because Medlen is a better hitter.
Mark
August 28th, 2012
9:02 pm
So swith hitting Medlin can drive him in!
George
August 28th, 2012
9:02 pm
I was near bottom of page, but I will not repost.
George
August 28th, 2012
9:06 pm
Mark
August 28th, 2012
9:02 pm
So swith hitting Medlin can drive him in!
***********************************
Yup, and he can play SS also. BELIEVE IN THE MEDS.
Capt.Mudd
August 28th, 2012
9:06 pm
First!!!!
phil
August 28th, 2012
9:09 pm
Brava
August 28th, 2012
8:44 pm
Okay, I know it’s bad, but I found this funny.
Drew @emrysx
Just sitting in line at McDonalds, staring at a stream of dumpster juice flowing down the lot. Thinkin’ of Dan.
************
lol…he’s earned the distinction.
George
August 28th, 2012
9:09 pm
Capt.Mudd
August 28th, 2012
9:06 pm
First!!!!
*********
At what?
Hmmmm
August 28th, 2012
9:10 pm
how that “topic” moved to Prado I’ll never know but either way I’m done with it; Uggla is playing 2nd and that’s all there is to it
Here Comes Honey Boo Boo
August 28th, 2012
9:11 pm
the braves had a 6 game winning streak last week, we would have been 1 game back.
Arthur Redding, Jr.
August 28th, 2012
9:12 pm
Could it be, headed for their 5th straight loss, that the National are faltering and coming down to earth? Wish the Braves could take advantage.
phil
August 28th, 2012
9:12 pm
Cantore goin nuts in new orleans….
phil
August 28th, 2012
9:14 pm
It’s a definite wanna win tonight….
We could maybe have a shot at 4 back obviously…
Here Comes Honey Boo Boo
August 28th, 2012
9:15 pm
if the braves had a 6 game winning streak, we would have been 1 game back tonight. dont think the nats are going to get on another losing streak. didnt take advantage of it.
phil
August 28th, 2012
9:16 pm
Sidel on the beach getting pummeled by sand is at least as stupid as FG’s usual in game decisions….sigh.
Ralph
August 28th, 2012
9:19 pm
phil- Fruti’s in game decisions are not as bad as his before game decisions.
Mark
August 28th, 2012
9:19 pm
phil
Weather guys pray for storms like funeral homes pray for…well you know.
Gotta make a living I guess, huh?
phil
August 28th, 2012
9:20 pm
His name IS Crisco!!
Can he pinch hit?
Ed
August 28th, 2012
9:20 pm
At this moment St. Louis is behind 9-0 and Washington is behind 9-0. We have our best pitcher going tonight. What an opportunity !!!!!
I hope the Braves are not allowed to know this or we will lose 15-0 tonight.
BravesfaninAugusta
August 28th, 2012
9:22 pm
Would’ve liked to have seen Ross in there
phil
August 28th, 2012
9:22 pm
Yeah, they do….no need to inhale sand, though!
Bravefaninok
August 28th, 2012
9:22 pm
Cards losing to pirates 9-0
Gnats losing to miami 9-0
Dodgers losing to Col 4-0
Gotta win tonight Braves!!!!!!!!!
Felix
August 28th, 2012
9:23 pm
The Fish are giving the Nats a real butt kicking.
Brava
August 28th, 2012
9:24 pm
Yes, George. The Fish are the Marlins. Top ‘o the 9th and still 9-0.
Mark
August 28th, 2012
9:24 pm
Dodgers haven’t won again since the latest trade have they?
Brava
August 28th, 2012
9:24 pm
He certainly has, phil.
phil
August 28th, 2012
9:25 pm
It’s just not very bright to build a city 12 feet below sea level….
Does that even need to be said? I guess it does since they built it
brian
August 28th, 2012
9:26 pm
I am still trying to figure out why people feel the need to come on here and cut on the man that provides this for us.
phil
August 28th, 2012
9:28 pm
outfor, Ralph?
Tisk, tisk…..
Brava
August 28th, 2012
9:28 pm
Yeah, I don’t get the DOB bashing, brian. If you don’t like what he writes, why even come on here?
Ralph
August 28th, 2012
9:28 pm
typo police
Voice of Harold
August 28th, 2012
9:29 pm
brian,
It’s got everything to do with their own sad existence…
phil
August 28th, 2012
9:30 pm
Agreed, brian…
It would be one thing if they were kidding around, but some of it is just brutal and senseless.
Ralph
August 28th, 2012
9:31 pm
Why are yoy watching the RNC?
ChattTownBrian
August 28th, 2012
9:31 pm
That’s crazy that Uggla, who was brought here to be the cleanup RH power guy, is hitting 8th now.
It's over now
August 28th, 2012
9:31 pm
We all have to face it – no matter how far his batting average falls, no matter how many errors he makes (even though scorekeepers are really not allowed to give him errors), Dan Uggla will be the day to day 2B. There can be far better options, Dan is their man, unless he is in jail. I don’t know what allure or leverage Dan holds but it is working to the extent of keeping him in the lineup.
The only time Dan sits is when Dan wants to or when the announcers will tell the truth (like Sunday Night ESPN).
I hate it because I want to see the best lineup to see the Braves win and Freddi just does not agree with me – I hate it!!!
Brava
August 28th, 2012
9:33 pm
Okay, all, politics is off-limits on this blog. Could we please change the subject?
JHarber
August 28th, 2012
9:35 pm
So, who we blame for all these losses in past week? FREDDI
Mark
August 28th, 2012
9:35 pm
Regarding New Orleans – Agree with phil
The bigger problem is that our govt. will spend huge bucks they don’t have rebuilding yet again and again it’ll be below sea level and the clock will already be ticking on the next flood.
Same thing with folks that buy that cheap land on the Mississippi flood plain.
If someone buys land real cheap right behind a dam even though they are told not too because it isn’t smart or safe, and they do it anyway, why should the govt bail them out when the dam breaks?
Harsh but …
Ralph
August 28th, 2012
9:35 pm
Brava
Thank You
Brava
August 28th, 2012
9:36 pm
It’s not over yet, It’s over now.
I agree with you. Dan is Fredi’s boy and he’s gonna play, no matter what.
George Washington
August 28th, 2012
9:36 pm
With uggla, jones, and mccann in the lineup tonite, there’s a 90% chance the Braves lose. He just won’t or can’t understand the issue. I’m afraid he is a dumb SOB.
RBI
August 28th, 2012
9:36 pm
Looks like Strasburg shut himself down tonight! Go Braves!
And, I have never been impressed by Moylan. I think he is toast.
Bravefaninok
August 28th, 2012
9:36 pm
About Atlanta Braves
We talk baseball, other sports, music, movies, BBQ and whatever (except politics or religion)
Just a reminder….
Brava
August 28th, 2012
9:37 pm
You’re welcome, Ralph, but I’m not sure anyone is listening.
Sopheee
August 28th, 2012
9:37 pm
Some things never change.
Couch Tater
August 28th, 2012
9:40 pm
Jim Cantore is like Dan Uggla. One big moment in 6 months. heh heh
phil
August 28th, 2012
9:40 pm
But those delegates ARE fat!
Lol….
JHarber
August 28th, 2012
9:41 pm
Could someone check on Wren and Freddi’s contract for me please.
bostonbravo
August 28th, 2012
9:42 pm
I’m calling on Bud Selig to check into this Fredi G – Uggla “relationship”…there’s just something wrong here.
George Washington
August 28th, 2012
9:44 pm
Hey Brava, some folks like attention whether it’s good or bad. Get my point?
It's over now
August 28th, 2012
9:44 pm
Brava – Thanks!!
Mark
August 28th, 2012
9:45 pm
Bravefaniock
We’ve gone from no religion or politics to both within the same blogs.
I threw one in earlier to though!!
phil
August 28th, 2012
9:45 pm
At the beach, when building a sand Uggla, what happens if one digs down essentially below sea level? Yep…..water intrudes and down she goes.
What part of this escapes the good folks of N. Orleans?
Animus
August 28th, 2012
9:45 pm
So a couple of jerks want to start talking politics instead of baseball because they’re bored? C’mon – pay attention:
About Atlanta Braves
We talk baseball, other sports, music, movies, BBQ and whatever (except politics or religion)
Spare us the politics please.
Brave New World
August 28th, 2012
9:46 pm
bostonbravo August 28th, 2012 9:42 pm I’m calling on Bud Selig to check into this Fredi G – Uggla “relationship”…there’s just something wrong here.
While you’re at it, you might want to send that picture of Chipper and Prado as well.
Sopheee
August 28th, 2012
9:47 pm
Good grief, PL, drop it already.
bostonbravo
August 28th, 2012
9:47 pm
good idea…make Uggla CEO of “Godfather’s Pizza”!!
phil
August 28th, 2012
9:48 pm
Long time – probably best to zip it before you send someone over the edge…
bostonbravo
August 28th, 2012
9:48 pm
well…the Marteen…Chip thing was well known around the “Blue Clam”…
Brava
August 28th, 2012
9:49 pm
A sand Uggla, phil? Can it hit? LOL!
TBbravesfan
August 28th, 2012
9:50 pm
is this the nats longest losing streak?
Mark
August 28th, 2012
9:51 pm
Long time braves fan
I’m not rich but do meet the other two criteria you mentioned.
BYW, I have a pickup truck, live in the south, hunt and fish, am proud of the southern tradition, like the conferate flag, enjoy hearing Dixie being played but I dispise oppression of any kind against anyone.
Careful with stereotyping!
bostonbravo
August 28th, 2012
9:51 pm
Long Time: shut up, get out a hole “q odf thr”
Brava
August 28th, 2012
9:52 pm
PL, please stop it. It’s almost game time.
Here Comes Honey Boo Boo
August 28th, 2012
9:52 pm
ah, dave obrien ban people talking politics on his bog. just a warning.
Bravefaninok
August 28th, 2012
9:52 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EF91gJ6D0E&feature=plcp
Newest Rickymast video This ones about Medlen…..
phil
August 28th, 2012
9:53 pm
I can’t answer, Long Time….
I will say i detest politics and side with neither side…
But i find humor in fat folks….obviously!
Bravefaninok
August 28th, 2012
9:54 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ttZNc0Nfxg&feature=context-cha
The original….Chipper goes yicketty
ChattTownBrian
August 28th, 2012
9:57 pm
Medlen and this Padres pitcher tonight both look like high schoolers.
P.E.T.A.
August 28th, 2012
9:57 pm
Mark – we’ll be in touch….
ACE
August 28th, 2012
9:57 pm
For all the DOBBER Ditto heads who want to come on here and say thank you DOB for doing your job and we agree with everything you say there are other points of view. It doesn’t make them wrond.
DOB says he is a big boy and can take the heat yet he can’t ask certain questions in the clubhouse because it could offend someone. Which one is it.
ACE
August 28th, 2012
9:59 pm
If anyoe disagrees they are an uncle Tom? you keep on thinking that brother.
ChattTownBrian
August 28th, 2012
10:00 pm
There’s a reason they don’t allow political talk on the blog.
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:00 pm
ACE is as relentless as a pit bull with a piece of raw meat….sigh.
JHarber
August 28th, 2012
10:01 pm
ACE You do not understand politics at all. DOB asks the tough questions and in couple of days he is barred
Bat Masterson
August 28th, 2012
10:01 pm
Well I’ll be damned. I knew Paul would not stay on the reservation long.
Sopheee
August 28th, 2012
10:02 pm
Hi Bat, like old times huh?
Mark
August 28th, 2012
10:02 pm
Long time
I never mentioned suppressed. Never mentioned that I was. Never mentioned I was having a problem. Never mentioned President Obama. Not sure why you want me to answer those questions but choose not to.
BTW, I’d rather watch a turtle breath for hours on end rather than waste a second of my life listening to Bill Mayer ramble on
Time to watch Medlin deal and the Braves bash the ball!
Bat Masterson
August 28th, 2012
10:03 pm
DOB – can you ban the political instigator? _ brian
Paul has been banned more times than anyone can remember
JHarber
August 28th, 2012
10:03 pm
Ace this uncle tom lives in Lewisburg, Tenn. You are looking at my real name on the blog. Anyone here can tell you where I live
Bat Masterson
August 28th, 2012
10:04 pm
Hi, Soph.
Yes it is, always just a matter of time with him.
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:06 pm
Pads pitcher not exactly thin…..
Kat
August 28th, 2012
10:07 pm
Not too bad of seats http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3516/imag1673.jpg
Brava
August 28th, 2012
10:07 pm
Go Braves!!!
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:07 pm
We’re done….
TBbravesfan
August 28th, 2012
10:08 pm
got to swing the bat.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 28th, 2012
10:08 pm
Gonna be a long night. Bourn does what he usually does against lefties: strike out. Another soft-tossing lefty on the hill will spell trouble.
Sopheee
August 28th, 2012
10:08 pm
Sweet seats, Kat!
Brava
August 28th, 2012
10:08 pm
Marteeen!
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:08 pm
We’re not done!
brian
August 28th, 2012
10:08 pm
welcome back Sopheee.
Mark
August 28th, 2012
10:08 pm
TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN Again!
David O'Brien
August 28th, 2012
10:09 pm
Uggla dropped to 8th, but Fredi praises him at same time
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/08/28/uggla-dropped-to-8th-in-batting-order-for-first-time/
Sopheee
August 28th, 2012
10:10 pm
Hi brian, thanks!
Kat
August 28th, 2012
10:10 pm
Right next to the ball girl.
brian
August 28th, 2012
10:10 pm
would love to see the Braves take this one tonight and then take the series tomorrow. Finishing this road trip at .500 would be huge playing at Nats, at Giants, and at red hot Padres
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:10 pm
Run, jason, you doof!
Animus
August 28th, 2012
10:10 pm
NEVER stop running
Can’t blame him much for that one though.
Venice Jim
August 28th, 2012
10:10 pm
Marteeennn! (we have met DS1)
Sopheee
August 28th, 2012
10:10 pm
Hey’s gonna kick himself for not running it out.
T-Dawg
August 28th, 2012
10:11 pm
No excuse.
Mark
August 28th, 2012
10:11 pm
Cmon Jhey
Been playing well man. Bust it like you been doing
ncbravesfan90
August 28th, 2012
10:11 pm
If that was Uggla that stopped running, this blog would be going crazy….
Brava
August 28th, 2012
10:12 pm
Chipper!!!!
Animus
August 28th, 2012
10:12 pm
Braves LEAD
Nice shot by Chipper – thought it was gone for a second there.
Mark
August 28th, 2012
10:12 pm
Chipper comes thru again
T-Dawg
August 28th, 2012
10:13 pm
Atta boy Hoss! Ouch…that had to hurt.
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:13 pm
Chipper mashed that sucker!!
Sopheee
August 28th, 2012
10:13 pm
That looked painful. Sorry for laughing, Mr. Padres OF guy.
TBbravesfan
August 28th, 2012
10:13 pm
wish jhey would have ran it out
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:14 pm
Heyward should be benched immediately!!
Mark
August 28th, 2012
10:14 pm
Might just be glad he put one in play!!
Kat
August 28th, 2012
10:14 pm
Actual view from seat .. not too bad. http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/6145/imag1674m.jpg
Rick C
August 28th, 2012
10:15 pm
If you haven’t seen it, check out Matt Kemp running into the wall at Coors earlier tonight
http://www.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=24284143&partnerId=aw-8538373115088260339-996
Around The Horn
August 28th, 2012
10:15 pm
JASON
There can be no excuses for not running hard.
That reflects on Fredi’s managing as well.
SOS Braves
August 28th, 2012
10:15 pm
Freeman does his usual strikeout
bravofan
August 28th, 2012
10:15 pm
what does everyone think of the new ajc.com website?
Kat
August 28th, 2012
10:15 pm
VJ what row are you?
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:17 pm
Ball one….
Get durbin warm.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
10:17 pm
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 28th, 2012
8:46 pm
Just read about Molina…yikes. Don’t think I wanna watch that video…
It’s not that bad…. I mean, I made it through without screaming…
brian
August 28th, 2012
10:17 pm
Larry came to play tonight!!
Bat Masterson
August 28th, 2012
10:18 pm
Kat_
Yeah not too shabby.
Ralph
August 28th, 2012
10:19 pm
I think J Hey thought that ball had been caught, a rare mistake for him.
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:19 pm
Everything reflects on Fredi’s managing….
Including the cereal I just ate.
Sopheee
August 28th, 2012
10:19 pm
Kat, tell Durbin lowercase phil says hello.
Mark
August 28th, 2012
10:21 pm
No hitter is gone but another good inning Meds
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:22 pm
Uggly hitting .207….
That IS 20.7 percent hits…..1 for 5.
I can see why Fredi praised him….
MikeInFl
August 28th, 2012
10:22 pm
No hitter is gone
That’s good. He can concentrate on the complete game shutout. Already has his run to play with.
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:23 pm
I like ole Durbin….for now, anyway!
smallmouth6
August 28th, 2012
10:24 pm
No, Jason shouldn’t be benched. No, it doesn’t have anything to do with the coaching. Anybody with half a brain knows that Jason hustles all the time. Watch the game.
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:24 pm
Mac already wildly blinking….
Mark
August 28th, 2012
10:24 pm
I hear you Mike.
cabravesfan
August 28th, 2012
10:25 pm
Kat-
Section 115 row 5 (which is the 2nd row behind railing) #1 & 2
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
10:25 pm
Kat, tell Durbin lowercase phil says hello.
And that TOBF supported him all year. Glad to see him be successful.
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:25 pm
And anyone with a smallmouth should be able to understand a bit of sarcasm where jason is concerned……
SOS Braves
August 28th, 2012
10:25 pm
McCann continues to stink it up
Ralph
August 28th, 2012
10:26 pm
Don’t pick the option on Blind/Mac
Animus
August 28th, 2012
10:26 pm
McCann didn’t show much in that AB, but neither has any LH batter yet. It’s early yet.
bp
August 28th, 2012
10:27 pm
Bmac is getting hard to watch
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:27 pm
Mac’s k avoids the dp….sigh.
T-Dawg
August 28th, 2012
10:28 pm
Wow….just giving away outs. We’ve all seen this before.
SOS Braves
August 28th, 2012
10:28 pm
God. Are we all idiots. Of course uggla does the usual
njbraves
August 28th, 2012
10:28 pm
Uggla should never play for this team again. The guy is a list cause… It’s not going to get better.
Mark
August 28th, 2012
10:29 pm
Why do that Reed?
Ralph
August 28th, 2012
10:29 pm
Blind Mac and Uggly are a jinx on this team!
uga-brave
August 28th, 2012
10:30 pm
large chunk of next year’s payroll hitting 7th and 8th.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 28th, 2012
10:30 pm
Stupid mistake by Johnson and another strike out by Uggla leaves the pitcher to lead off the third inning. Bad baseball.
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:30 pm
Then again, Reed makes up for it with some fine baserunning, just ahead of the latest Uggly strikeout…..
SOS Braves
August 28th, 2012
10:30 pm
McCann uggla = outs wherever u put them in the lineup
Animus
August 28th, 2012
10:30 pm
Looking on the bright side after that debacle of an inning, Medlen bats lead-off next inning
uga-brave
August 28th, 2012
10:31 pm
they are our version of the “bash brothers.”
richbrave
August 28th, 2012
10:31 pm
MLBN tonight? TBS? ESPN? FOX?
Bronke
August 28th, 2012
10:31 pm
McCann and Uggla the dynamic duo of the Atlanta Braves : (
SOS Braves
August 28th, 2012
10:31 pm
Thank god we have medlen pitching.
Jerry
August 28th, 2012
10:32 pm
It’s entirely possible that by this time next week, uggla will be hitting under .200. $13mil a year to the man with the worst batting average in baseball. Don’t get no better than that. Great job signing him up Wren.
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
10:33 pm
Uggly with another strike out… what a surprise
SOS Braves
August 28th, 2012
10:33 pm
Unglazed and McCann will swing and miss on pick off attempts
Jerry
August 28th, 2012
10:33 pm
McCann and Uggla by day, and Fatman and Bobbin by night.
CaptainMudd
August 28th, 2012
10:33 pm
Hello everyone!!! Not to say too much about last frame; except that it looked beneath MLB ability level–and, most certainly fan expectation(s).
SOS Braves
August 28th, 2012
10:34 pm
Rather uggla
Animus
August 28th, 2012
10:34 pm
Medlen working in his 21st consecutive scoreless inning – correct??
sid
August 28th, 2012
10:34 pm
really hope when the Braves play at home this weekend the fans at Turner really get on Uggla…..he deserves it.
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:34 pm
Wren couldn’t have foreseen this uggly train wreck….
the truth...
August 28th, 2012
10:35 pm
So Reed Johnson singles and Uggla strikes out……………
Who’re you gonna play Loss Busters…..?
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
10:35 pm
God I wish I could see the game in HD
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:36 pm
Jerry, i just chuckled….bobbin
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
10:36 pm
Medlen has it working tonight.
richbrave
August 28th, 2012
10:37 pm
Guess I don’t understand the match-ups. To me they throw lefties, we box righties. C ROSS, LF JOHNSON, SS JANISH, 2B PRADO, 3B JONES.
Dang, cut McCANN some slack and get him out of there to rest that shoulder a bit. They do it for CHIPPER.
Then mix in HEYWARD, FREEMAN, and BOURN.
Brava
August 28th, 2012
10:38 pm
Yay, Bourney!
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
10:38 pm
can o’ corn
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:38 pm
Sid – how does your geton uggla plan help anything?
Animus
August 28th, 2012
10:38 pm
Speed never slumps – nice run down catch by Bourn!!!!
Mark
August 28th, 2012
10:38 pm
Prado to second and Johnson to left every day!
Cmon Freddi, make it happen
Of course if Reed doesn’t get picked our requests hold more merit. But, at least he was on base to et picked
ChattTownBrian
August 28th, 2012
10:38 pm
That ball would still be bouncing around out there if McLouth was still our CF.
Brava
August 28th, 2012
10:39 pm
Meds is dealing!
Animus
August 28th, 2012
10:39 pm
Chip just told me – it’s 22.1 consecutive scoreless innings for Medlen. Impressive.
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:39 pm
I wish i could just see the game but mom is calling so off to bed soon….
bp
August 28th, 2012
10:40 pm
I dont know what to do. We have a catcher who is having vision problems again and a 2B who tries to hit the left foul pole every at bat.
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
10:40 pm
If “IF” were a fifth we would all be drunk… ChattTownBrian
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:40 pm
That’s a big ole fat Hanson fan!
Lol
ChattTownBrian
August 28th, 2012
10:41 pm
Uggla just flies his hips open so much. How can he be any good doing that? He still walks a lot which shows he’s seeing the ball. Just weird.
David O'Brien
August 28th, 2012
10:41 pm
Medlen’s scoreless innings streak now at 22, was already longest by a Braves pitcher this season before tonight’s game
richbrave
August 28th, 2012
10:41 pm
Great, let’s make it a minimum of 50 O.K. No jinx.
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
10:41 pm
Medlen did the tomahawk chop at that one didnt he?
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:42 pm
Medlen better shut em out…we’re done scoring it appears.
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
10:43 pm
Animus – I think Medlen is trying to make it 29 scoreless innings after tonight!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
10:43 pm
Medlen “only” has the longest scoreless innings streak by a Braves pitcher this year….. yeah, he’s a #3-4…. the comparisons to Maddux are bogus.
No, Bourn!!!!
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:43 pm
Good nite all…..pull us through!
Animus
August 28th, 2012
10:44 pm
CHOP – hope so, got his first CG shutout last time he pitched against the Pads.
Head shot to Bourny – now steal 2 bases – pay the pitcher back
phil
August 28th, 2012
10:44 pm
Ouch…..
Nite.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
10:44 pm
Medlen is a good #2 for us this year, possibly for years to come. He might even become a #1…
Brava
August 28th, 2012
10:44 pm
Glad Mikey didn’t get hurt. Scary.
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
10:44 pm
Juuuuuuuuuuuuuussssssttttttttt a bit inside… (for all you chip fans out there)
Brava
August 28th, 2012
10:45 pm
Nite, phil.
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
10:46 pm
Pitcher is getting a little loose isnt he…?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
10:46 pm
We’s got ourselves a break there. E3 though…
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
10:46 pm
I LIKE IT I LIKE IT I LIKE IT!!!!!!!
count_schemula
August 28th, 2012
10:46 pm
It’s time to return ideals and values to 2b. Trade Dan Uggla for Rick Santorum.
Test of the new registration system. Testing. 1, 2, 3.
Animus
August 28th, 2012
10:47 pm
WHAT???? Pretty sure FF makes that play, I’ll take it, now SCORE SOME DAMN RUNS!!!!
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
10:47 pm
Just dont roll it here JHEY!!!
Brava
August 28th, 2012
10:47 pm
Trey, I knew who he was. We’ve met before.
Trey
August 28th, 2012
10:47 pm
Looks like he caught a case of Bill Buckner.
TBbravesfan
August 28th, 2012
10:47 pm
come on jhey
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
10:48 pm
Whats this pant legs up business JHEY has going on tonight?
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
10:48 pm
Its the pants JHEY!!
Mark
August 28th, 2012
10:48 pm
Jhey outta bats soon
Rick C
August 28th, 2012
10:49 pm
CHOP SHOP, I think he’s been wearing them like that for a couple weeks now at least.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
10:49 pm
Jason with another K…. sigh
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
10:50 pm
Rick – I rarely get to see a game with I live now so its new to me.. but thanks for the info.
Mark
August 28th, 2012
10:50 pm
Once more Cipper!!!
T-Dawg
August 28th, 2012
10:50 pm
We just get too antsy when ducks ore on the pond.
Animus
August 28th, 2012
10:50 pm
JHey had long pants Sat or Sun – remember him fixing them after sliding back into 1st base. I like the look better anyway.
ncbravesfan90
August 28th, 2012
10:50 pm
I think everybody knew a slider was coming there, anytime there’s an 0-2 count on Heyward against a lefty, a slider is coming off the plate.
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
10:50 pm
Cmon!!!!
Animus
August 28th, 2012
10:51 pm
Chipper w/the stare down before he got into the box – and a weak grounder for out #3.
Not a great finish to what could have been a good inning.
CaptainMudd
August 28th, 2012
10:51 pm
Martin’s face says it all
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
10:51 pm
Heyward shoulda bunted, ya know, I squeeze
(sarcasm)
T-Dawg
August 28th, 2012
10:52 pm
Is it too much to ask for 7 walks in a row?
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
10:52 pm
Animus – You must be an old guy! The pants up remind you of big league ball from your childhood?
Tomahawk Mafia
August 28th, 2012
10:52 pm
The key play in the inning was Heyward’s inability to bring that runner home from third base with less than two outs. The Braves have done a rotten job in those situations lately. That needs to change.
Mark
August 28th, 2012
10:55 pm
Tomahawk
Correct. We strikeout waaaaaaaaay too much anyway but less than 2 out and a man on 3rd. Hit it somewhere!
Animus
August 28th, 2012
10:55 pm
Yeah CHOP SLOP I got kids older than you
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
10:55 pm
MEDS!!! How bout those quick feet.
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
10:55 pm
GOT HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEM!!!!
Animus
August 28th, 2012
10:55 pm
Got Heeeeeeeeeeeem!!!!!!!!!!
M.V.P.Heyward
August 28th, 2012
10:56 pm
Well, Kris is the man!
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
10:57 pm
Animus – Touche’ sir. back to the game. Hell of a pick move.
Animus
August 28th, 2012
10:57 pm
Chop Shop – you watch Intentional Talk? Figured you’d still be in 6th period when it comes on
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
10:57 pm
Medlen is on fire! Keep it going kid. Ace!
Brava
August 28th, 2012
10:57 pm
Kris rocks!
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
10:57 pm
Ah 1. Ah 2. Ah 3. Nice inning Meds!!
Mark
August 28th, 2012
10:58 pm
Meds old coach knows some ball!
Pretty good job on the interview too
Animus
August 28th, 2012
10:58 pm
I’d rather hear that guy talking/calling the game than Chip & Joe – definitely be more entertaining.
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
10:58 pm
Animus – Nope its on right when I get home! Bout the time Im eating my snack!
bravofan
August 28th, 2012
10:59 pm
LIKE this Thanks Chipper page
http://www.facebook.com/ThanksChipper
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
11:01 pm
And another Freeman K…
ncbravesfan90
August 28th, 2012
11:01 pm
Each lefty in the lineup has at least one strike out tonight, Freeman has 2
Fredo
August 28th, 2012
11:02 pm
this guy’s going to think he’s the strikeout king
tmc
August 28th, 2012
11:02 pm
if there are two players i will ALWAYS root for and be proud to be on the Braves team… It’s Chris Medlen and Martin Prado.
I’ll take substance over style any day of the week.
and take my chances with their talent and determination any day.
(i pray Wren or whoever is in his position in the future recognize that too)
Go Med’s and Teen!
Mark
August 28th, 2012
11:02 pm
Too many guys killing the grass walking back and forth to the box with all the dadgum Ks
Ralph
August 28th, 2012
11:03 pm
Ross and Janish could have been two more right hand bats in the lineup!
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
11:03 pm
WOW. Great inning..
Animus
August 28th, 2012
11:04 pm
Ralph – only one, Janish would be at SS, Prado at 2nd. But I think your idea is a good one. They don’t have a clue against this guy right now.
JC Brave
August 28th, 2012
11:04 pm
God, lefties are like kryptonite for these guys…
CaptainMudd
August 28th, 2012
11:04 pm
Good Little piece on Chipper in the “UT,” Union Tribune covering SD
Bronke
August 28th, 2012
11:04 pm
Going to be a long night for the Braves. This team looks awful against lefties. Couldn’t Ross have started tonight?
Brava
August 28th, 2012
11:06 pm
Indeed, Ralph.
Tina
August 28th, 2012
11:06 pm
Braves offense BORING and another lefty tomorrow.Hell he should be tough on LH at the pitches we swing at.
Ralph
August 28th, 2012
11:07 pm
Animus, your right, can’t count Uggla as a RHB though, he is a no handed bat.
Animus
August 28th, 2012
11:07 pm
Ralph, I’ll give you that one
CaptainMudd
August 28th, 2012
11:07 pm
Carlos ‘San’ Quentin
T-Dawg
August 28th, 2012
11:08 pm
Lefties, rookies, can throw an off-speed pitch, have a heartbeat….I’m not sure it matters.
kelevra
August 28th, 2012
11:09 pm
uggla pitcher lefty coming up….
Animus
August 28th, 2012
11:10 pm
Medlens’ only thrown 43 pitches through 4 – looking good for a nice deep game for him. But if he has to pitch a CG shutout to win, he should get a bonus collected from the Braves “Hitters” tonight. Uggly offense so far.
Mark
August 28th, 2012
11:11 pm
2 hits the first 4 ABs and one hit since.
Cmon guys
tiger297
August 28th, 2012
11:12 pm
wow nice shot
M.V.P.Heyward
August 28th, 2012
11:12 pm
That ball was crushed!
Brava
August 28th, 2012
11:12 pm
Wow! A miracle! Uggs!!!!!!!!
Animus
August 28th, 2012
11:12 pm
Let the love begin
Ok, that’s one hit/HR, not gonna jump on his bandwagon until he has 4 or 5 more.
Trey
August 28th, 2012
11:12 pm
Dan Uggla!
Venice Jim
August 28th, 2012
11:12 pm
Must be awful to be you poor miserable people watching this game…glad to be in San Diego and not stuck on the blog…UGGS!!!
ChattTownBrian
August 28th, 2012
11:12 pm
Way to go Dan! That makes me smile and I have reason.
T-Dawg
August 28th, 2012
11:12 pm
Dang it Uggla. You always strike out. Wait, what just happened?
Bravefaninok
August 28th, 2012
11:13 pm
He got all of that one…most powerfull 8th hitter in MLB!
David O'Brien
August 28th, 2012
11:13 pm
Pretty good power for a No. 8 hitter. Braves up 2-0
Ralph
August 28th, 2012
11:13 pm
Even a blind squirrl finds a nut every once in a while.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
11:13 pm
UGGLA!!!!! What a way to get hit #1000. Way to go my man! He’s back….
CaptainMudd
August 28th, 2012
11:13 pm
People quipping….”use Ross, etc.” Well in Fredi’s World he runs Hinske up there to PH (late) instead of Rossy cause….Hiney needs some work or to ’shake rust off,’……..wait, maybe not necessary—Uggs just bombed and got canned.
Mark
August 28th, 2012
11:14 pm
Good for Uggs. Almost feel better for him than for the team!
ChattTownBrian
August 28th, 2012
11:14 pm
I just had a feeling before he hit that homerun. Very weird.
Brava
August 28th, 2012
11:15 pm
I’m not poor or miserable, VJ. Glad you’re enjoying the game.
CaptainMudd
August 28th, 2012
11:16 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
11:16 pm
I just had a feeling before he hit that homerun.
Can you do have that feeling every time Uggla comes up to bat?
Jerry
August 28th, 2012
11:16 pm
Uggla still sucks beyond measure.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
11:16 pm
He only needs 14 more HR to get to 30…. it’s doable.
ChattTownBrian
August 28th, 2012
11:17 pm
Uggla is a good guy. It could be he cares so much for the team and maybe even what fans think that it gets him overwhelmed which could cause the inconsistancy.I mean IDK, but maybe.
Mark
August 28th, 2012
11:17 pm
Yall pull them through
Work awaits in the morning
Say those prayers all
Jerry
August 28th, 2012
11:17 pm
ChattTownBrian
August 28th, 2012
11:14 pm
I just had a feeling before he hit that homerun. Very weird.
Probably crabs
Animus
August 28th, 2012
11:17 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
11:16 pm
He only needs 14 more HR to get to 30…. it’s doable.
I hope so, if he does, the Braves are gonna win a BUNCH of games – prolly catch the gNats too
nolie
August 28th, 2012
11:17 pm
Even a blind squirrl finds a nut every once in a while
certainly easy to find one on here
Brava
August 28th, 2012
11:18 pm
Nite, Mark.
JC Brave
August 28th, 2012
11:18 pm
I’m still trying to process all the information of what just happened this inning during Uggla’s at bat…
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
11:19 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
11:13 pm
UGGLA!!!!! What a way to get hit #1000. Way to go my man! He’s back…
Cmon now…. One hit in how many at bats… Dont get ahead of yourself… One homeruns is not worth 13 mil…
CaptainMudd
August 28th, 2012
11:20 pm
Molina took a good one
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
11:21 pm
When Uggla can go a complete game with out striking out… I will give him some credit…
ChattTownBrian
August 28th, 2012
11:21 pm
Yeah I names that pesky crab Jerry. He likes the inside of my butt, too.
kelevra
August 28th, 2012
11:21 pm
astros blow the save and the game…giants win
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
11:22 pm
Should have been a big K ump…
nolie
August 28th, 2012
11:23 pm
who the hell cares if he strikes out
Venice Jim
August 28th, 2012
11:23 pm
Brava – just saw a couple of posts – not you – just was funny since it’s a great game from our vantage point…
Animus
August 28th, 2012
11:24 pm
Medlen has started 6 games this season.
He’s given up 3ER!
So…if he gets 2 runs, he wins right?
David O'Brien
August 28th, 2012
11:24 pm
Families of Durbin, Sheets are braced for storm in Louisiana
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/08/28/durbins-family-in-baton-rouge-braced-for-hurricane/
Fredo
August 28th, 2012
11:25 pm
“When Uggla can go a complete game with out striking out”
happened yesterday (single, popout, flyout)
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
11:26 pm
I left out “and produce” – Fredo
Brava
August 28th, 2012
11:26 pm
It’s a great game from here, too,VJ.
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
11:26 pm
Cmon blue that was a ball last inning!!!
ChattTownBrian
August 28th, 2012
11:26 pm
Chipper starts the game with a dip, then some seeds and the on to gum. Watch.
Columbus
August 28th, 2012
11:27 pm
I told you guys, Uggla is looking like he is slowly pulling out his slump the last few games…..LOOKOUT IF HE DOES! That would be a huge shot in the arm and rear end!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
11:27 pm
A single isn’t producing? He was on base waiting to be driven in….
Animus
August 28th, 2012
11:28 pm
And…Uggla has a two game hitting streak going – longest such streak since a 3 game streak 2 weeks ago.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
11:29 pm
3K’s for Freeman… that’s worse than anything Uggs does!
ncbravesfan90
August 28th, 2012
11:29 pm
Hat trick for Freddie……..
Brava
August 28th, 2012
11:29 pm
This pitcher’s got Freddie’s number.
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
11:29 pm
Fredo – For a guy like Uggla who is getting paid 13 mil to bring runs in, play this “great defense” everyone says he has, and most of all for a guy of his size and with his power… no a single is not producing…
MikeInFl
August 28th, 2012
11:29 pm
who the hell cares if he strikes out
… and who cares if Chop Shop “gives him credit?”
Tomahawk Mafia
August 28th, 2012
11:30 pm
Werner is carving this lineup to pieces, yet Medlen has the lead.
CaptainMudd
August 28th, 2012
11:30 pm
I sense a lull here….things need to ge going a bit…..hey VJ and Cab; how about making that place ‘rock!’
ACE
August 28th, 2012
11:31 pm
Medlen has all the support he needs and most likely all he will get.
Columbus
August 28th, 2012
11:32 pm
You guys kick and hate on Uggla while he is down all you want.. I will pull for him because WE NEED HIM and send the team some POSITIVE vibes instead of the negativity and hatin’.
Come on Uggla, work through this slump thing and come through it just as hot as you did last year! You can do it Dano!
Uggla, Uggla!
tiger297
August 28th, 2012
11:32 pm
did not realize durbin went to woodlawn…crazy how close that was to me…
ChattTownBrian
August 28th, 2012
11:32 pm
BALLGAME!
Sopheee
August 28th, 2012
11:32 pm
Disregard if this has already been posted.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/ranking-chipper-jones-retirement-gifts-far-172941742–mlb.html
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
11:32 pm
AGAIN! Meds!!!!
Brava
August 28th, 2012
11:32 pm
Got heeeeem.
Animus
August 28th, 2012
11:32 pm
WOW
WOW
Amazing Kris Medlen
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
11:33 pm
And another!
CaptainMudd
August 28th, 2012
11:33 pm
Professonal….top notch move…just great.
Fredo
August 28th, 2012
11:33 pm
needs to teach hanson that move
Bronke
August 28th, 2012
11:33 pm
Medlen is awesome!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
11:34 pm
Medlen has all the support he needs and most likely all he will get.
Indeed…. and the Braves need to only score 1 more run, because I (selfishly) want Kimmeh to get a save. Meds going the distance wouldn’t be bad either, would be good for my fantasy leagues!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
11:35 pm
If Meds is ever traded/not in our rotation next year, someone needs to be fired!
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
Medlen now leads the team w/ three pickoffs. Maholm and Hanson have 2 and per @fauxfrankwren Uggla has at least one
nolie
August 28th, 2012
11:35 pm
fence post
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
11:36 pm
So close prado!!! wouldve been a top ten! which would have forced ESPN to show DA Braves on tv! haha
CaptainMudd
August 28th, 2012
11:36 pm
Professional duh? Anybody else having trouble with words/letters not showing up on comments when–in fact–originally typed correctly????
Animus
August 28th, 2012
11:36 pm
So that’s why Prado only plays SS occasionally?
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
11:37 pm
Simmons def would have made the play but he wouldnt have had to dive haha
nolie
August 28th, 2012
11:38 pm
that’s why…
Brava
August 28th, 2012
11:39 pm
Medlen is very good, y’all. Exceptional.
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
11:39 pm
Medlen is just NASTY…
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
11:40 pm
This Medlen kid is a star…
David O'Brien
August 28th, 2012
11:40 pm
Medlen runs his scoreless innings streak to 26, has a 2-0 lead through six.
CaptainMudd
August 28th, 2012
11:40 pm
For my money; he’s our ‘Ace.’
Animus
August 28th, 2012
11:40 pm
Yeah, this Medlen guy is doing pretty good for a #4 or #5 starter
ChattTownBrian
August 28th, 2012
11:40 pm
Medlen might be our ace heading into the next year.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
11:41 pm
Can’t Medlen pitch every day? Or at least cloned? I’d love having 5 Meds in the rotation, and a bullpen of 6 Medlens (2 LH, of course) and Kimbrel…. that’d be friggin awesome.
nolie
August 28th, 2012
11:41 pm
Hope Meds isn’t gonna be like the wonderful one hoss shay, when he finally gives up a run he will just disintegrate into ashes
CaptainMudd
August 28th, 2012
11:42 pm
Andrew..’Not this Time,’ Werner
ChattTownBrian
August 28th, 2012
11:42 pm
No way I thought Medlen would be this good. He’s just figured it out I guess. Good because I know they need him bad.
Heisenberg
August 28th, 2012
11:42 pm
Holy dominance Batman! Can Medlen get some CY votes? Could be a stretch to ask for winning CY but somebody please put in a vote or 2 for this guy.
Ralph
August 28th, 2012
11:42 pm
ChattTownBrian
August 28th, 2012
11:40 pm
Medlen might be our ace heading into the next year
Not if Fruti can find an excuse to put him backi in the pen!
N8
August 28th, 2012
11:42 pm
For anybody that cares, and who has the mlb package or mlb.tv….. Dick Enberg can’t rave enough about Medlen. I’ve always liked listenting to what other announcers think of the Braves (call it the anti-homerism fascination).
But is there ANY doubt that Medlen belongs in this rotation for good moving forward?
Dude is frickin mini-Maddux out there.
Ken Stallings
August 28th, 2012
11:42 pm
A question to ponder:
Would Kris Medlen have won the Cy Young Award had he been in the starting rotation from the start of the season? Or, did the Braves do a very smart thing by putting him the bullpen initially and lower his total innings pitched to give time for his surgically repaired shoulder the extra time to recover to make him this effective?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
11:43 pm
LOL Animus…. he’s so overrated, the comparisons to Glavine are bogus
kelevra
August 28th, 2012
11:43 pm
ross will play tomorrow so this mccann’s last chance for a hit in the series
Heisenberg
August 28th, 2012
11:43 pm
Braves lefty hitters rejoice. They put in a RHP.
Sopheee
August 28th, 2012
11:43 pm
You guys are putting the ultimate jinx on him. Shhh.
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
11:43 pm
I wouldnt say ace, ChattTown but he def wont be #4 or 5 thats for sure
Venice Jim
August 28th, 2012
11:44 pm
Great meeting Kat and Wayne – just need to stay ahead (just occasionally glancing at the blog)…
CaptainMudd
August 28th, 2012
11:44 pm
Not so fast….well, at the leat Meds can be Co-Aced into pitching more!
Animus
August 28th, 2012
11:44 pm
Ken – actually it was TJ surgery, and I think the Braves wanted to limit his innings. And they had a lot of promise coming out of ST, felt the pen was the place for him. Remember, he only started once some of the more promising pitchers faltered.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
11:45 pm
Hope Meds isn’t gonna be like the wonderful one hoss shay, when he finally gives up a run he will just disintegrate into ashes
Negative nolie…. Meds ain’t giving up any runs anytime soon!
Can Medlen get some CY votes?
Agree, he deserves to get some… he’s been great, and will continue to do so.
CaptainMudd
August 28th, 2012
11:45 pm
Uggla has bigger muscles now…..Tiger Milk Dan?
Heisenberg
August 28th, 2012
11:45 pm
Ken, IMHO Braves did a smart thing. But he should garner a few votes. Strong finishes impress voters.
N8
August 28th, 2012
11:45 pm
“Braves lefty hitters rejoice. They put in a RHP.”
…. and yet McCann still looks like an over-matched boy among men. Sigh….
Ken Stallings
August 28th, 2012
11:45 pm
I have DirecTV and the MLB Extra Innings package and many times I have watched the Padres late at night here in New Mexico just because I so much like Dick Enberg as a baseball announcer. He has more fame from football play-by-play, but I think he’s best as a baseball play-by-play man.
He is very honest and gives credit where due. No one can look at Medlen’s performances and draw much of any negative. The man has just flat out done the job! If he had ten more starts in 2012 and kept this up, he’d win the Cy Young going away.
I still think despite the limited innings and starts, he will still get some significant votes.
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
11:45 pm
I think uggle has already started back to the dugout
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
11:46 pm
yup… good job uggla
JC Brave
August 28th, 2012
11:46 pm
There’s the real Uggla!
T-Dawg
August 28th, 2012
11:46 pm
That home run just bought Uggla 10 more games.
Ken Stallings
August 28th, 2012
11:47 pm
Thanks for the correction! I could not remember if it was Tommy John or a shoulder and obviously guessed wrong!
CaptainMudd
August 28th, 2012
11:47 pm
Also like the way Meds won’t just give up his at-bat
N8
August 28th, 2012
11:48 pm
Agreed Ken. He’s good as a baseball announcer. Now if we could just get Dan Dierdorf in the booth with him. Kidding. He’s horrible.
kelevra
August 28th, 2012
11:49 pm
medlen is so good he’s making everyone forget how terrible our offense is right now
CaptainMudd
August 28th, 2012
11:49 pm
The earlier Homer by Dan is equivalent to 8 walks…..I know he cares!
Heisenberg
August 28th, 2012
11:49 pm
Would trade the bad ABs for a dinger twice a week from Uggla. I know it is setting the bar low but would at least be an upgrade.
Animus
August 28th, 2012
11:49 pm
Comparisons to Glavine & Maddux are premature. The guy has only started 24 games in his career, if he continues to pitch well for the next ….. 15 years, then the comparisons can begin. Seriously, he’s doing well, enjoy it and hope it continues for a long time in Atlanta.
Bronke
August 28th, 2012
11:50 pm
As soon as you get some giddy up back in your step, here comes the strikeouts again. I really think McCann needs to sit. Sorry McFann. He was awesome at one time but has become a shell of his former self. Hope he snaps out but I don’t see it happening this year.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 28th, 2012
11:51 pm
The line up better get its act together. They have a lead but this is troubling to only have two runs after being shut out last night and shut down for much of the past two weeks.
Jay Dubu
August 28th, 2012
11:51 pm
26 2/3 cosecutive scoreless innings pitched by Medlen.
Heisenberg
August 28th, 2012
11:51 pm
I could see more of the Prado starting at SS then moving to LF for defense late. At least until Simmons gets back.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
11:52 pm
I woulda preferred Pastornicky at SS to finish the game, but Janish is okay…
Take a look at this play: It’s amazing…. 2 players touch the ball, and still record the out.
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
11:52 pm
Animus – None of the braves current pitchers can be compared to Maddox or Glavine
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
11:53 pm
BMac….
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
11:54 pm
Great, McCann dinged up again…
Sopheee
August 28th, 2012
11:54 pm
Eek.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
11:54 pm
That’s why I don’t catch…. those kinda hits hurt.
nolie
August 28th, 2012
11:54 pm
that hurt
JC Brave
August 28th, 2012
11:54 pm
Careful Medlen, you are beyond 75 pitches and “your effectiveness may start slipping”…
Here Comes Honey Boo Boo
August 28th, 2012
11:54 pm
no more babies….
Animus
August 28th, 2012
11:54 pm
Good thing Mac already has a kid – may not be able to have any more after that hit! OUCH
keyLargo
August 28th, 2012
11:54 pm
N8 – I’ve been listening to Chip tonight but I did listen to Dick Enberg the last series against the Padres. I prefer Enberg over Vince Scully of the Dodgers too, although both are HOF announcers. I think Scully only does home games now.
Bravefaninok
August 28th, 2012
11:55 pm
Ouchhhhhhhhhh that was in a bad spot.
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
11:55 pm
Medlen is making everyone hurt themselves! haha
tiger297
August 28th, 2012
11:56 pm
wonder if cab is close enough to hear mac swearing
Heisenberg
August 28th, 2012
11:56 pm
In Little League a cup is mandatory. Surprising how many MLB players do not wear one.
Animus
August 28th, 2012
11:56 pm
Tiger – she’ll have to listen for a very high pitched F-Bomb
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
11:57 pm
He (BMac) was awesome at one time but has become a shell of his former self. Hope he snaps out but I don’t see it happening this year.
BMac is .276/.344./.276/.620 over his last 8… and .246/.329/.463/.792. He’s done better in 2nd half than in his 1st half…. he’s coming around, I hope.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
11:57 pm
27.1 IP scoreless for Meds #LikeABoss
CHOP SHOP
August 28th, 2012
11:57 pm
Heisenberg – I think most baseball players quit wearing cups at high school.
Animus
August 28th, 2012
11:58 pm
Only 86 pitches, looks like he’s strong. Could be another CG for him. Wouldn’t mind seeing Kimbrel come in though.
nolie
August 28th, 2012
11:59 pm
not much fun to wear a cup as a catcher
Heisenberg
August 28th, 2012
11:59 pm
Hate to post-n-run but I am not on SD time. Good night. Catching the rest of this from a horizontal position.
uga-brave
August 28th, 2012
11:59 pm
braves lead the national league in walks by a wide margin (454) next closest the mets with 423.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 28th, 2012
11:59 pm
Chop Shop: You are correct… though some coaches make sure that catchers wear them, esp. with the hard-throwing pitchers. Most guys I know (myself included) rarely, if ever, wear them. But I’m an OF/2B, so it’s not needed often.
Animus
August 29th, 2012
12:00 am
Cups are uncomfortable, but…the one time you don’t wear one…you get hit, crawl away thinking you’re going to die…and throw up in front of everyone. (I think that’s the order it happened, I’ve tried to block the memory out)
tiger297
August 29th, 2012
12:00 am
the wife was behind home pl8 when he got racked last year…she texted me and said “he is saying some dirty words-little tiger couldnt sit down here”
Sopheee
August 29th, 2012
12:01 am
Haaaa, Meds cracks me up.
Ken Stallings
August 29th, 2012
12:01 am
Cups are highly effective now. They just reduce it to serious pain now.
Soon as I saw it I knew exactly where it hit! Chip Caray said, “Not sure exactly where it got McCann,” and before they could show the replay I voiced, “Oh yeah, I know exactly where it got him!”
True story time! I became a catcher when they moved me from third base because the guy they originally selected as the catcher on the team proved to be bat blind. He kept blinking his eyes everytime the batter swung and he couldn’t catch the ball. They put me behind the plate and I did not flinch.
So, I became a catcher!
I just lauched my arse off! Just saw the TV replay of the scene in the dugout showing Medlen walking up to McCann just as he sat on the bench and gave him a hug with a joking spirit that was priceless!
tiger297
August 29th, 2012
12:01 am
he wont get much sympathy from eddie perez
nolie
August 29th, 2012
12:02 am
locker room humor is mean stuff
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
12:02 am
Great hustle!
CHOP SHOP
August 29th, 2012
12:02 am
I know I never wore a cup.. I would always do the fake cup check with the umps in little league would check.. haha but then again I aways played ss/3b so it didnt really matter
Animus
August 29th, 2012
12:03 am
nolie
August 29th, 2012
12:02 am
locker room humor is mean stuff
But don’t you wish there was a mic there when Chipper was talking to Mac? Had to be good if it made Mac laugh.
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
12:04 am
Oh great, a lefty to face Heyward…
nolie
August 29th, 2012
12:04 am
yeah I do Animus.
CHOP SHOP
August 29th, 2012
12:06 am
JC BRAVE – JHEY is DO for a big hit.
Animus
August 29th, 2012
12:06 am
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
Tonight marks Martin Prado’s 48th multi-hit game of the season, which ties him with Matt Holliday for 2nd in the NL (Melky 52)
Really needs to get 5 more – don’t want the MilkDud getting ANYTHING this year.
tiger297
August 29th, 2012
12:06 am
and if you havent been in an office it can be just as mean when the right group gets together
keyLargo
August 29th, 2012
12:06 am
Heisenberg – I assure you McCann is wearing a cup but they just don’t do much on a direct hit. Might keep you from dying from pain or having to have surgery, but they just don’t stop the pain of getting hit.
After about 2 minutes when you start to realize you might have died without a cup, you’ll be very happy you did wear one.
Ken Stallings
August 29th, 2012
12:07 am
Chpper probably said something along the lines of, “You want me to answer that door bell?”
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
12:07 am
The Braves Specialist is doing work again tonight for the Padres.
CHOP SHOP
August 29th, 2012
12:08 am
Just not this at bat :/
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
12:08 am
And there goes Heyward. Works like kryptonite.
tiger297
August 29th, 2012
12:08 am
ken – either that or I’m not rubbing it for you
Ralph
August 29th, 2012
12:08 am
Ken Stallings
August 28th, 2012
11:42 pm
Or, did the Braves do a very smart thing by putting him the bullpen initially and lower his total innings pitched to give time for his surgically repaired shoulder the extra time to recover to make him this effective?
If they did that i’m sure it was purely accidental, Braves management isn’t that smart.
Animus
August 29th, 2012
12:08 am
Chipper “I’m amazed that ball hit a target so small” – usually the kind of thing I’d hear.
CHOP SHOP
August 29th, 2012
12:08 am
Where are these strike the umpire is calling?!
nolie
August 29th, 2012
12:09 am
Layne for CYA
Here Comes Honey Boo Boo
August 29th, 2012
12:10 am
bet you that mom is going crazy again…..
kelevra
August 29th, 2012
12:10 am
cant have this many left handed every day players…..put yourself at an automatic disadvantage….i say get the switch hitting salty back next year(red sox seems to be in sell mode) with ross backing up and bj upton in center….righties hit righties better than lefties hit lefties….. no need to put yourself at that kind of disadvantage
nolie
August 29th, 2012
12:10 am
been there too, but I think locker rooms are meaner. much of mine is from that venue and a lot of folks resent it
Bronke
August 29th, 2012
12:11 am
11 strikeouts and counting! Either the Braves hitters are lost or the Padres pitchers are awesome!
CHOP SHOP
August 29th, 2012
12:13 am
sittin em down!!!
CHOP SHOP
August 29th, 2012
12:17 am
got heeeeeeeeeeeeem
Brava
August 29th, 2012
12:17 am
Dang! Medlen is the Man!
nolie
August 29th, 2012
12:17 am
looked inside but we’ll take it
CHOP SHOP
August 29th, 2012
12:17 am
meds lookin like a CG SO
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
12:18 am
Wow, 71 strikes vs 29 balls…
T-Dawg
August 29th, 2012
12:18 am
Great job by Meds.
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
12:18 am
Medlen’s scoreless streak is at 28-1/3 innings. He’s thrown 100 pitches, Braves are up 2-0 after eight, and Kimbrel is warming up in ‘pen.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
12:18 am
got heeeeeeeeeeeeem
damn I hate that ad….
Animus
August 29th, 2012
12:19 am
100 pitches – should need about 12 to get his CG. High for the year is 104, his last (only) CG. Think he’s good for it
CHOP SHOP
August 29th, 2012
12:20 am
nolie – As do I… but its just so catchy, is it not?
Animus
August 29th, 2012
12:21 am
Well, he avoided “The Golden Sombrero”
N Nine
August 29th, 2012
12:21 am
Omfg MEDS!!!!!!
CHOP SHOP
August 29th, 2012
12:21 am
WHAT?!?!?!?!?!
T-Dawg
August 29th, 2012
12:23 am
Wow….no hustle. There needs to be a speech in the locker room about this kind of thing.
Brava
August 29th, 2012
12:23 am
What happened there?
Animus
August 29th, 2012
12:23 am
????
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
12:24 am
Mac continues his hot streak!
Let’s go Uggs, but don’t hit a HR please…. just drive in 1 run, give us a 3-run cushion
Phil
August 29th, 2012
12:24 am
I think the home plate ump called him out on the attempted catch
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
12:25 am
What is happening??
Animus
August 29th, 2012
12:25 am
Should get an explanation from DOB after the game – sure it’ll be in the quotes.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
12:26 am
dammit…
Animus
August 29th, 2012
12:26 am
Too bad, Meds is done.
Thanks Tom Hart for the explanation. Guess it was too obvious a drop?
Bravefaninok
August 29th, 2012
12:27 am
rule 605l
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
12:27 am
3-pitch K coming up for Juan here…. not that I’d mind, I wanna see Kimbrel pitch.
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
12:27 am
Nobody say anything about Uggla striking out…..didn’t hear anything with Freddie did for the 3rd time either.
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
12:27 am
Man, Dan Uggla is just downright awful. He may get lucky once in a while, but he is awful…
Bronke
August 29th, 2012
12:27 am
There goes strikeout 12 from you know who : )
CHOP SHOP
August 29th, 2012
12:27 am
BOOOOOOOOO… shoulda let Medlen close it out
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
12:28 am
I’ll take that… let’s go Kimmeh, first save chance since Aug. 3rd…. hope he remembers what to do!
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
12:28 am
Boy, Dan Uggla swings and misses a ton. All any pitcher has to do to record an out against him is throw breaking balls. He will never make contact with them.
Animus
August 29th, 2012
12:28 am
Time to calibrate the gun at PETCO – Kimbrel is rested, I’m greedy – wanna see 100!
nolie
August 29th, 2012
12:28 am
nope. I don’t think its catchy, just obnoxious as hell
T-Dawg
August 29th, 2012
12:29 am
Going to need at least 4 runs tomorrow.
Maybe we’re just conserving the energy.
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
12:29 am
Kimbrel on to pitch the ninth in his first save opp since Aug. 3
Brava
August 29th, 2012
12:29 am
Kimmeh Time!
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
12:30 am
All any pitcher has to do to record an out against him is throw breaking balls. He will never make contact with them.
You can say that again.
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
12:31 am
“All any pitcher has to do to record an out against him is throw breaking balls.”
The homerun he hit was on a changeup…..
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
12:31 am
Andrelton Simmons @Andrelton
Wow. I dare someone to question how good @KrisMedlen54 is. #WOW
Animus
August 29th, 2012
12:32 am
Medlens ERA as a starter: 0.76! Overall it’s a whopping 1.71.
Guess he’s been ok all year.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
12:33 am
ncbravesfan90
Yeah, the homer Uggla hit was on a changeup.
Mldtown
August 29th, 2012
12:33 am
Shutout yesterday, and two runs today. Had Werner not hung a curve to Uggla, it would have been a mere run for two games.
Good thing Medlen is pitching like a champion … otherwise it would have been one root-canal of a night.
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
12:34 am
“Yeah, the homer Uggla hit was on a changeup.”
Contact was made then
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
12:34 am
No need to start with the weak hits leading to a rally, especially after jumping ahead of Cabrera 0-2.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
12:35 am
Nice try Uggs…..
Kimmeh’s struggling early, can’t locate the slider.
Shutout yesterday, and two runs today. Had Werner not hung a curve to Uggla, it would have been a mere run for two games.
Why not congratulate Uggla for hitting a mistake pitch? That’s what you’re supposed to do…
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
12:35 am
Beautiful.
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
12:36 am
Jinx graphics now handled.
Uggla can’t go up the middle if his life depended on it.
Medlen might be the story of the year.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
12:36 am
I consider breaking balls and changeups to be different types of pitches.
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
12:37 am
The homerun he hit was on a changeup…..
One that didn’t break and was left up, letter high..
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
12:37 am
“I consider breaking balls and changeups to be different types of pitches.”
Ok, my bad then.
Brava
August 29th, 2012
12:37 am
Sounds like there are quite a few Braves fans there.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
12:37 am
Well I don’t Tomahawk, don’t think most people do…
ncbravesfan90
August 29th, 2012
12:37 am
“One that didn’t break and was left up, letter high..”
That’s good, considering a lot of times this offense is not able to hit mistakes like that…
Animus
August 29th, 2012
12:38 am
When I lived in SD, there were lots of Braves fans for every game when they came to town. (Navy mostly). And they were NL West, so I got to see them a lot.
Fredo
August 29th, 2012
12:38 am
don’t like when teams let a player take 2nd uncontested; it prolongs the game, might set up a big inning. If he steal it, he steals, but don’t give it to him for free
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
12:38 am
ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
Strasburg allowed career-high 7 runs. His fastball got crushed by the Marlins. How bad? Click to find out out.http://t.co/kyeDxAZa
He went just 5 innings.
Phil
August 29th, 2012
12:38 am
All Medlen’s family
tiger297
August 29th, 2012
12:39 am
finish him here…
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
12:39 am
Braves win
MikeInFl
August 29th, 2012
12:39 am
Of course they are.
uga-brave
August 29th, 2012
12:39 am
nice play macc.
Animus
August 29th, 2012
12:39 am
Good win, get the series tomorrow.
Brava
August 29th, 2012
12:39 am
Braves Win!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
12:40 am
Now we’re 4 back of the Nats…. need a good start out of Tommy tomorrow…. it’s a statement start
Got school in the morn, good night folks. Go Braves. Peace.
Tomahawk Mafia
August 29th, 2012
12:41 am
Nice to be back on the winning side of things! Tough match up tomorrow though with Hanson vs. Stults.
JC Brave
August 29th, 2012
12:41 am
That’s good, considering a lot of times this offense is not able to hit mistakes like that…
Yeah, especially for him. He needed that.
And great win for the Bravos and Medlen!!
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
12:41 am
Braves win, Medlen pushes scoreless innings streak to 28-1/3
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/08/29/braves-win-as-medlen-pushes-scoreless-innings-streak-at-28-13/
GTI in Brooklyn
August 29th, 2012
12:43 am
That Kid’s just a winner, am I right? I never want to see him not in the rotation. MEDs is a ROCK.
tiger297
August 29th, 2012
12:43 am
when its sleepy time down south…
N Nine
August 29th, 2012
12:44 am
Lol dob had story written before kimmie got.up. wow meds 2013 cry winner.book it
Brava
August 29th, 2012
12:44 am
Nite all.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
12:49 am
ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
Braves won last 17 games started by Kris Medlen, longest streak by team in pitcher’s starts since 2005 Cardinals (Chris Carpenter, 17)
Good night now!
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
12:50 am
Medlen – typical SoCal talent which the Braves don’t draft enough of.
Two pitches for a strike — effective.
Three pitchers for a strike — elite.
Typical Gonzalez — not recognizing this guy’s talent right away. Guy has Maddux movement and that’s not jumping the gun. Plays the game the right way.
Mldtown
August 29th, 2012
12:58 am
Well, I am happy for Uggla. I’m simply noting how anemic the offense has been in this series. Saved by a pitcher who was just about perfect today, but they’d better hit tomorrow, I think.
King of Carrot Flowers
August 29th, 2012
12:58 am
Medlen has the best stuff of any Braves starter. He has the best command. He’s the best at holding runners. This is no fluke.
ACE
August 29th, 2012
1:11 am
Frank and Fredi were saving Medlen. Yeah right.
ACE
August 29th, 2012
1:12 am
I am sure Fredi will say that HR tonight is the reason he keeps running Uggla out there.
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
1:14 am
As long as you’re looking to lock up guys — lock up this guy solely on his attitude. What a gamer. If we had 5 of him in the rotation we’d win the World Series.
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
1:14 am
Unfortunately back to reality tomorrow with the Red Robot.
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
1:18 am
Fredi G on Medlen: “He’s terrific. He does everything you want a starting pitcher to do. Hopefully there’s young players out there watching him pitch. He gets the ball back and fires. He hold runners. He fields his position. He can bunt, hit-and-run. He does a lot of stuff.”
Jay Dubu
August 29th, 2012
1:21 am
Each start that Medlen performs like this, adds to the case that he should have been in the starting rotation from opening day.
Medlen has pitched superb!
Minor has pitched very well over the last 2 months. His era is 2.50 over 57 2/3 innings.
Have to get Hanson rolling, and keep Huddy and Maholm on point, and starting pitching will be good.
Hitting has to crank it up a little. If Uggs and Mac can get rolling, and Simmons is able to pick up where he left off, Braves stand a great chance in the playoffs.
King of Carrot Flowers
August 29th, 2012
1:22 am
ACE, I agree. I think there’s some revisionist history going on there. All the talk early in the year was the ridiculous idea that Medlen was “more valuable” as a middle reliever. Never heard any mention of an innings limit. And if that was the issue, why was he stretched out mid-season only to return to the bullpen? Doesn’t make sense.
In light of the Strasburg situation, I think Fredi and Wren saw a way to spin their Medlen decision in a way that turned it into an accidental positive, instead of a huge mistake. Just a little self congratulating going on, that’s all. Management wants to be seen as the Braintrust, not the Braindead.
Jay Dubu
August 29th, 2012
1:23 am
@The A Bomb,
That’s just palin funny, @ 1:14 am.
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2012
1:24 am
Very enjoyable game – not surprising to see people complaining anyway…
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2012
1:26 am
Not revisionist history – anyone who paid attention in the preseason would have been aware that it was mentioned that one reason Medlen was sent to the bullpen at the beginning of the year was related to the surgery – I apologize for paying attention…
Ward
August 29th, 2012
1:32 am
Hello everyone! DOB Thanks for the new web site, and like the improvements……I think we can call Medlen an Ace now. Great win, but the hitting is pathetic, and something needs to be done about it, and fast…….
Dirty Harry
August 29th, 2012
1:33 am
I see VJ is up to his usual teachers way of trying to correct everyone. Do you have any evidence from EARLY in the season that Medlen was in the pen because of surgery?
Ward
August 29th, 2012
1:34 am
The hitting needs to wake the blankety blank up! Glad the Braves won…..
Dirty Harry
August 29th, 2012
1:35 am
I didn’t know you were a teacher but I made the remakr that you must have been a teacher in a former life and Brava said that you were indeed a teacher.
Animus
August 29th, 2012
1:35 am
August for Medlen:
0.50 ERA
2 ER
4 BB
37 K’s
27 H
0.87 WHIP
He should be mentioned for pitcher of the month at the very least. 5 starts and 4 wins, I think any team in baseball would take that.
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
1:36 am
Medlen on starting rather than relieving: “I keep saying the same things, but I love the game, I love trying to out-think guys and out-pitch hitters, and catch them trying to look for something and you throw something else…. That’s what I live for. That’s what I’ve done my entire life. I’ve learned so much from so many different people, and I’m just trying to put it all together and figure it out.”
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2012
1:37 am
Dirty Harry – it was discussed before the season if one paid attention – sorry if I do not have the reference here. Nice to have someone I never heard of come on and praise me for the intellectual insight I am able to bring to the blog, however. Thanks so much for supporting my efforts to stamp out ignorance. You are an important personage in helping stamp out rampant hatred of the Braves which others bring. Bless you for your efforts…
ACE
August 29th, 2012
1:37 am
Medlen starting sooner could possibly meant more wins.
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
1:39 am
Medlen on being in bullpen first half of season, do you look at it as, what might I have done starting? Or say, maybe I’m fresher now?
“Yeah, I look at it that way. But also, I could have been in Strasburg’s situation where I could have gotten shut down. I’m lucky to be in this situation. When I was in the bullpen I did my best, and now that I’m starting I’m going to try to do my best. So far it’s working. There’s still a month and however many days left. We’ve got a long eway to go, and hopefully we just continue to keep playing well.”
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2012
1:40 am
And, since I realize that you are actually being snarky, perhaps I misunderstood that we should read the blog and never comment if we disagree. I marvel at people who seem to think I am the only one who ever disagrees with people who espouse a view that counters the truth, but I appreciate the fact that you recognize my efforts to weed out incivility and licentiousness…
Dirty Harry
August 29th, 2012
1:40 am
VJ if you are going to state something as fact you should have the proof to back it up.
Ward
August 29th, 2012
1:40 am
I’m glad Medlen is pitching great, and he’s proven he’s an (Ace ) to me.
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2012
1:41 am
Ace – so what – he didn’t – and, as a result, he is strong – and golly, he agrees with me…
Ward
August 29th, 2012
1:41 am
Dirty Harry – Lay Off VJ, and chill man. Like chill……….
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2012
1:42 am
Dirty Harrty – it was discussed – sorry you missed it – I keep a long list of stupid things people post just to have fun with their miserableness late on – no reason to keep track of every little thing – perhaps you need to do so if you are unable to remember why happened …sorry…
Dirty Harry
August 29th, 2012
1:42 am
VJ if you are such a baseball fountain of info why don’t you tell us your back ground. Did you ever play? Did you ever coach?
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2012
1:43 am
Ward – see that the Blue Jays’ guy suspended went to Duke? At least he was not a basketball player…
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2012
1:44 am
Time to get some sleep before a fun day here in San Diego tomorrow – sleep well, everyone!!!
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2012
1:45 am
And, should DS1 pop in later, it was fun!!!
ACE
August 29th, 2012
1:45 am
I am all for him being stronger now just saying that if he had been in the rotation longer he could have been good for four or five more wins and the team would be tied or either in first place.
Ward
August 29th, 2012
1:47 am
VJ – True on that, and I’m getting ready for some Football. College Football this Saturday, and ready for some Fighting Irish.
Dirty Harry
August 29th, 2012
1:48 am
I see that VJ didn’t have anything to back up his argument. I should stoop to his level and correct him but I won’t. Have good night everyone.
ACE
August 29th, 2012
1:51 am
Glad you guys got to see a win and I hope another tomorrow. Like I have said before we can all disagree but in the end we want to see another parade down peachtree.
Ward
August 29th, 2012
1:52 am
Dirty Harry – Relax man……..Forgiveness…….
Kat
August 29th, 2012
1:55 am
Very nice to meet cab, VJ and Wayne today at the ballpark. And we all left with a win!
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
1:59 am
Uggla on whether team feeds off Medlen’s energy:
“Yeah, he’s an outgoing, funny guy as everybody knows. He stays loose out there. That keeps us loose. He works fast and just dominates.”
ACE
August 29th, 2012
2:03 am
will chipper play tomorrow?
Ward
August 29th, 2012
2:06 am
Glad Uggla got going, and I think it would be foolish to let Uggla go next year, or trade him. I remember some of the off years Dale Murphy would have, and then he would have a good year, so it happens to all hitters. Uggla will be fine, and I will continue to back him.
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
2:08 am
Chipper’s postgame Tweet: Medlen is Maddux-esque rite now, only Med has a better pick-off move! DU went #mammo off the paint can! Bmac is now singing soprano,Lol!!
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
2:11 am
Bravos postgame quotage and assorted utterances
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/08/29/braves-quotes-after-tuesdays-win-against-padres/
Ward
August 29th, 2012
2:13 am
I agree, and Medlen has pitched like an (Ace), and I never thought him to be like that, and pitch, so well, and I’m convinced……
King of Carrot Flowers
August 29th, 2012
2:14 am
VJ, do you deny Braves said Medlen was “more valuable” in the pen than starting early in the season? I was paying attention too, smart guy. Why was Medlen stretched out mid-season only to go back to the pen for 6 weeks (or however long it was)? I assume that indecisiveness was about saving innings, also? Man, you sound a little gullible. Here’s a tip: if somebody tries to sell you beachfront property in Nebraska, say no thanks.
Astral
August 29th, 2012
2:20 am
there was talk over the winter and through the spring about how many innings Meds might throw.
There are people here who are only inyerested in ripping the Braves and everything they do.
They pretend to be Braves fans, but they have their own agendas and appear under numerous names saying the same thinks.
Who knows how many different aliases Carrothead has used?
Ward
August 29th, 2012
2:21 am
Medlen, was put in the bullpen to work on innings, and get stronger. He did, so well that the Braves didn’t wan’t to move him. They sent him to the Minors to work on exta innings, so he could become a starter. He struggled down there, and the Braves bullpen was never the same, so they called Medlen back up to work, and strengthen his arm, and he made vast improvements. Braves waited as, long, as they could, and move him into the struggling rotation. Medlen, had done far more than all of us expected, and Braves……. The End……
Ward
August 29th, 2012
2:22 am
Glad it all worked out for the Braves, and Medlen , and all of us fans…..
Astral
August 29th, 2012
2:23 am
yes Ward, so I am I.
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
2:29 am
Braves updated game story — Medlen in rare air with these winning and scoreless-innings streaks
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/08/29/braves-win-as-medlen-pushes-scoreless-innings-streak-at-28-13/
Ward
August 29th, 2012
2:31 am
Well, I think instead of Greinke next year…..Wren should get us a high priced LF with power, and can hit. I would like Hamilton, but would settle for some one who could hit.
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
2:32 am
It wasn’t the preseason.
It was after they sent him to Gwinnett to stretch out, then brought him back and stuffed him back into the pen. That was absurd.
Ward
August 29th, 2012
2:37 am
It’s all been fun. All, I’ll talk tomorrow, and Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
Animus
August 29th, 2012
2:40 am
All told, Medlen has only pitched 100 innings so far this year (Braves/Gwinnett). So, if they are keeping track of his innings, he probably has 8-10 starts left. That should get the Braves to the World Series
Astral
August 29th, 2012
2:44 am
it was talked about on here during the preseason
Astral
August 29th, 2012
2:47 am
some of you act like you know what is going on in the background with the team, and that is pure unadulterated 100% bull crap.
Animus
August 29th, 2012
2:56 am
Astral – you are 100% correct. A lot of what the Braves Management decides or thinks is never reported. They are one of the best organizations at keeping secrets in professional sports.
For a great example, look at some of the trades Wren pulls off – catches quite a few people by surprise every time!!! So, if people who interact with the team daily (reporters, etc) don’t know, how can some bloggers???
richbrave
August 29th, 2012
5:53 am
Divining AStral-ANimus, divining.
richbrave
August 29th, 2012
6:17 am
DOWN ON THE FARM
D-Rooks lose a 24 hit slug-fest 8-7 to the CARDINALS. Rookie reliefer BRANDON ROHDE is savaged. Back to the drawing board young man.
RHSP FRANK LaFRENIERE [4.02 ERA] 5.1 IP, 4 H, 4 R/ER, 0 BB, 7 SO.
Good start by 2011’s 47th rounder.
RHRP ED CASTILLO [BS 1, 6.86 ERA] 1.2 IP, 2 H, 1 R/ER, 1 BB, 0 SO.
RHRP BRANDON ROHDE [BS 1, L 0-1, 13.50 ERA] 1.0 IP, 2 H, 1 HR, 3 R/ER, 1 BB, 1 SO.
Hard to believe that 12 hits including five doubles would not be enough to win.
C TY TEWELL [.286 BA] 2-3, 1 2B [3], 3 RBI [3].
C TONY SNITKER [.274 BA] 1-2, 1 R, 1 2B [7].
CF LOGAN ROBBINS 1-3, 1 R, 1 2B [3], 1 BB, 1 SO.
1B ARIS ALCANTARA [.276 BA] 2-4, 1 R, 2 2B [14], 1 RBI [41], 1 BB, 2 SO.
ED SANCHEZ [.256 BA] 2-6, 3 RBI [23], 1 SO.
RON LUNA [.292 BA], JOSE PERAZA [.281 BA], LEVI HYAMS [.254 BA], FELIX MARTE [.262 BA] had a single each. PERAZA scored a run, and HYAMS had two.
richbrave
August 29th, 2012
6:36 am
DOWN ON THE FARM
GWINNETT
Rainout
MISSISSIPPI
Rainout
LYNCHBURG
AARON NORTHCRAFT allows a dinger then shuts the DASH down thru six as the HILLCATS win a squeaker 2-1.
RHSP AARON NORTHCRAFT [W 9-11, 3.95 ERA] 6.0 IP, 5 H, 1 HR, 1 R/ER, 1 BB, 5 SO.
LHRP MATT CHAFFEE [SV 6, 3.81 ERA] 0.2 IP, no-hits, 1 SO.
Game called early – rain.
RF ADAM MILLIGAN [.255 BA] 1-3, 1 2B [20], 1 RBI [45], 1 SO.
2B TOMMY LaSTELLA [.285 BA] 2-3, 1 R, 1 BB.
1B CHRIS GARCIA [.295 BA] 0–2, 1 RBI [59], 2 BB, 1 SO.
DH MIKE SPINA [.248 BA] 1-3
SS NICK AHMED [.261 BA] 1-4, 1 R, 2 SO.
CF MYC JONES [.251 BA] 1-3
richbrave
August 29th, 2012
6:49 am
DOWN ON THE FARM
ROME
GREEN-JACKETS swarm and scatter the LEGION 10-2. 10 hits by individual Legionaires with one triple, but they are scattered
3B KYLE KUBITZA [.231 BA] 2-3, 1 3B [9], 1 RBI [59], 1 BB.
1B BRANDON DRURY [.230 BA] 1-4, 1 RBI [50]. 1 SO.
Rookie RF CHASE ANSELMENT [.213 BA] 2-4, 1 SO.
Rookie 2B ROSS HEFFLEY [.290 BA] 1-3
FABIEN and three reliefers allow t11 H, 10 earned on 11 BB with only 5 SO.
Jeff R
August 29th, 2012
6:56 am
The Braves gain a game on the Nats, who’ve lost five-in-a-row. Are the Nats finally coming back to earth?
The Bravos need to take the rubber match in SD and even out their road trip.
phil
August 29th, 2012
7:04 am
Nice to wake up to a win! 4 back.
Medlen to the pen!
abeeeewright
August 29th, 2012
7:22 am
Went to sleep with the Braves up 1-0. Woke up to a 2-0 victory.
Meldeeeen keeps getting ‘r done.
Get a win tonight and Braves have a 5-5 road trip.
Five back in the loss column.
Is Strasburg starting to show the effects of the long season? Gave up seven runs last night.
How long before Zimmerman and Detwiler show the same synptoms?
Meanwhile, Cincy pulls into #1 seed in the NL.
Jimmy
August 29th, 2012
7:27 am
6:30 Eastern game today.
Good to see that VJ, Cab, DS1 and Kat met up at the game. And glad you guys got to see a Braves win.
Only 4 out now. We need this rubber game today.
Oh, fire FG, send Uggla to AAA and sign Zack.
There, that should cover it.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:28 am
Kat: You going to today’s games as well?
The Nats are falling! The Nats are falling! The Braves are coming! The Braves are coming!
The Nats collapse has started. Me like it very much.
Jimmy
August 29th, 2012
7:30 am
And in other news, Baltimore is only 3 1/2 back behind the Yanks. That’s got to be the baseball story of the year. That, and maybe throw the Pirates in there too.
It’s that throw-back Orioles logo they’ve brought back.
Jeff R
August 29th, 2012
7:33 am
And in other news, Baltimore is only 3 1/2 back behind the Yanks. That’s got to be the baseball story of the year. That, and maybe throw the Pirates in there too.
Maybe the Yanks’ oldsters are running out of gas. And the O’s are playing well. Surprised that the Rays have cooled.
Pirates slammed the Cards last night. Maybe they’re pulling out of their hitting slump.
Jimmy
August 29th, 2012
7:33 am
TOBF- They’ve got the Cardinals starting Thursday too.
jeffrey d
August 29th, 2012
7:33 am
I don’t know about Pittsburgh. They’re fading and they did this last year too. Of course, I think they lasted longer this time.
jeffrey d
August 29th, 2012
7:42 am
Oh hey, the new format of the AJC makes you register before you comment. Very nice
Jimmy
August 29th, 2012
7:46 am
jeffery d – I didn’t have to register to post a comment. ?
And the reason I mentioned the Pirates is, I think it has ben something like 20 years with a losing record. I don’t think they make the WC, but big improvement and something for their fans to cheer about.
jeffrey d
August 29th, 2012
7:47 am
I think that’s because this blog was made before the change.
Trader Jack
August 29th, 2012
7:48 am
Great win last night. Need to take the series finale
Jeff R
August 29th, 2012
7:48 am
Pirates may be fading, but I think I’d rather the Braves face the Pirates than the Cards if the Braves cannot secure the division.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:48 am
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
Today, my own unofficial NL Cy ballot would be: 1. Cueto. 2. Craig Kimbrel. 3. Aroldis Chapman.
Kimmeh needs more opportunities to pitch! Relievers so need their own Cy Young type of award…
jeffrey d
August 29th, 2012
7:50 am
It’s called the Rolaids Relief Award
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:50 am
TOBF- They’ve (Nats) got the Cardinals starting Thursday too.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
7:56 am
Medlen lights out again, the Braves gain a game on the Nats and Uggla hits one out. Love it.
Jeff R
August 29th, 2012
7:56 am
From this morning’s Washington Post’s Nats’ story blog:
Not only is the team losing, they are losing UGLY. Listless and gutless is an apt description to the play that the Nats have exhibited for the last week. The pitching has been less than stellar. The bullpen even worse. They look tired. I hope they’re not done, but the vital signs are fading.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
7:57 am
Hmmm, I’d never heard of that …. I’m a bad baseball fan
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
7:59 am
Kris Medlen, what a stud.
Medlen pitched a great game, but if I had to pick an MVP of the game last night, it would be Everth Cabrera, who somehow managed to reach base on Craig Kimbrel. Incredible.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
8:00 am
McCann singin’ soprano…bless his heart. LOL
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:02 am
They look tired. I hope they’re not done, but the vital signs are fading.
Sound like the Braves from last year…. surely their illustrious manager, Davey Johnson, isn’t being dumb like Fredi…. I mean, a smart manager like him should fire up his team and get them winning again.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:11 am
The Nats have 5 relievers with at least 49.1 IP ( one guy has an many as 74.1 IP). Braves have just 3 relievers with at least 49.1 IP (4 if Medlen is included). CMart has the most IP of any Braves reliever, with 64.1
Jeff R
August 29th, 2012
8:12 am
From former Brave Adam LaRoche in a Washington Post article this morning:
“Anytime you start something like this, it’s easy for people outside our clubhouse to think, ‘Oh, here we go. Here’s a big skid,’” Adam LaRoche said. “Hopefully guys don’t start buying into it and we’re able to shake it off and come back out. I think it’s also because we haven’t had many of them. Most teams go through this quite a few times in a year, and we haven’t had those.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
8:13 am
I don’t know if their vital signs are fading, but I did watch the Nats/Marlins’ game last night and the Nats had their behinds kicked.
tiger297
August 29th, 2012
8:15 am
regardless of how the nats are playing now over the rest of the season they have 2 off days – 35 games in 37 days (including yesterday) plus they play 13 games against playoff contenders
the braves have 4 off days – play 32 games over the next 36 days and only 6 games against playoff contenders
granted phillies/marlins have been playing much better recently I’m actually more comfortable we have a shot at the division now than I was a month ago
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
8:19 am
The Nats will do whatever they do…if the Braves play like they should over this relatively easy last month of the season, they’ll be fine. If they do so and don’t win the division, it will be because Washington wins on the order of 96-97 games. No shame in falling short of that.
If Washington plays .500 ball the rest of the year, they will get 94 wins. If three of those losses are against Atlanta, 94 may not be enough for them.
Still a long ways to go. I like seeing Washington lose, of course, but I’m still a couple of weeks away from obsessing over that gap in the standings.
tiger297
August 29th, 2012
8:19 am
lew – just for the record I wasn’t posting as a rebutal or smart ass comment to yours 8:13 although the timing kinda makes it look that way
I think everyone here knows i couldnt type that much that fast
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:20 am
Amazing as it is, both the Braves and Nats have used 12 guys in relief this year.
The Nats have used their BP for 399.2 Innings. 21-12, with 43 SV and 80 Holds. Their top 3 innings leaders out of the ‘pen have pitched for 74.1, 61, and 58.1 Innings.
The Braves have used their BP for 390.1 Innings. 19-11 with 36 SV and 59 Holds. Our top 3 innings leaders out of the ‘pen have pitched for 64.1, 54.1, 51.2 Innings.
tiger297
August 29th, 2012
8:20 am
how has nobody pickued up this freeman quote
“We know he’s going to go out there and throw strikes. He’s got a Bugs Bunny change-up…”
that is awesome
phoenix
August 29th, 2012
8:21 am
The only bad thing about a Medlen start, is that it’s followed by a Hanson start. That’s like Elvis opening for the Partridge Family. All those first-pitch strikes, great pickoff moves and smart pitch selections? You won’t see them tonight.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:22 am
Most teams go through this quite a few times in a year, and we haven’t had those.
It’s time now…. what a great time for them to do so.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
8:22 am
Hanson just need to throw strikes and let the ballpark swallow up the fly balls. This is a good place for him to have a confidence-building start.
toast
August 29th, 2012
8:23 am
still not sure what jim riggleman was thinking we he jumped ship on the nationals last year.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
8:26 am
Since June 3rd, the Braves are 11-2 in games started by Tommy Hanson.
BravesFanInMaine
August 29th, 2012
8:27 am
The braves are playing good but we need more hitting…. today/tonight is a crucial game the braves have to win and go on a role…. the nats are playing the cardinals so you have to think if the braves keep winning that they might be able to pull ahead by next week…. GO BRAVES!!!
Jeff R
August 29th, 2012
8:27 am
The only bad thing about a Medlen start, is that it’s followed by a Hanson start. That’s like Elvis opening for the Partridge Family.
Laurie was way cuter then Elvis.
Brave New World
August 29th, 2012
8:28 am
Medlen. ‘Nuff said.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
8:28 am
A win tonight salvages a 5-5 road trip and gives the Braves momentum heading home to play two teams they have dominated this year.
And best of all, I can actually watch some of it!
Jeff R
August 29th, 2012
8:29 am
The braves are playing good but we need more hitting
That’s a good point. Braves’ bats are still mostly quiet.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:29 am
Padres have 12 players who have faced Tommy before…. including 2 pitchers. Their line against him is .283/.403/.550/.953.
Couch Tater
August 29th, 2012
8:31 am
not sure what jim riggleman was thinking we he jumped ship
Better than facing the sword at the other end of the plank.
Halbert
August 29th, 2012
8:32 am
Hearing Uggla talk after the game was not exactly comforting. He hit a long home run so now he says, “I’m going to try to be that player for the last 30 games.” *sigh* So that means more swinging for the fences every at bat, no matter the count. More strikeouts, popups…etc. Ok. Doesn’t he realize “trying to be that player” is a big part of his problem? Great start by Meds though. Man, we sure could have used him last year in september.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
8:33 am
I would be lying if I said I enjoy west coast games…. so glad that we’re done with that stuff after tonight.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
8:33 am
That’s a good point. Braves’ bats are still mostly quiet.
Currently in a stretch against some of the best pitching in the league (LA, Washington, SF). The Padres have an ERA around 3.15 at PetCo.
Don’t worry…the Rockies, Mets, and Marlins are coming. Bats tend to heat up against those teams.
Lemke's Knuckler
August 29th, 2012
8:35 am
Since the Greg Maddux comparisons are already rolling in, I thought I’d take a look at pitch count and strike percentage.
Kris Medlen since becoming a starter – 13.1 pitches per inning, 70% strikes
Greg Maddux 1993 Cy Young Season – 12.7 pitches per inning, 65% strikes
I think DOB should put an asterisks by the names of all the people that were Kris Medlen doubters…just so we know that person has a limited baseball IQ
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
8:35 am
Yes, what Uggla should have said was “I want to apologize for hitting that home run. I know I should be trying to choke up and slap the ball around like I’m Juan Pierre. That’s what the Braves pay me to do, after all.”
CrαZy
August 29th, 2012
8:36 am
F whoever registered in the new format as CraZy… I hope you get hit by a bus!!
Lew
August 29th, 2012
8:37 am
tiger – No problem – I dfidn’t take it as anything other than an informative post.
tiger297
August 29th, 2012
8:38 am
brian – he could have at least apologized for not hitting it another few feet into the paint can…he hates charities (except his/hudsons/etc)
BravesFanInMaine
August 29th, 2012
8:38 am
I know alot of people on here including my self have beat up on uggla and saying hes horrible in all but you know what he shows up everyday and plays the game…. when you are going through a slump and not hitting at all that can have an affect on other aspects of your game but for uggla it hasnt, sure he has made errors but atleast everyday you know that he has a chance of turning it around….. I think he will get it going soon!
Jeff R
August 29th, 2012
8:39 am
Currently in a stretch against some of the best pitching in the league (LA, Washington, SF). The Padres have an ERA around 3.15 at PetCo.
Don’t worry…the Rockies, Mets, and Marlins are coming. Bats tend to heat up against those teams.
Good news.
tiger297
August 29th, 2012
8:41 am
nats have 4 with the cardinals this weekend so the good news is as long as we keep winning we will either pull away from them or close on the nats
Have I mentioned how much I love this time of year – september baseball is the best (IMAO)
Lew
August 29th, 2012
8:42 am
Why shouldn’t he “be that player”? That’s exactly what he is when he’s going good. Power hitter strike out a lot. Power hitters also drive in runs – which is pretty much what we need right now – we have plenty of high OBP Dudes, we need someone to drive them in instead of leaig them on the basepaths.
Uggla could go 1-4 with a HR every night the rest of the season and I woud imagine that if he did, the Braves would be scoring a lot of runs and winning a lot of games.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
8:44 am
The last time a Braves pitcher gave up no runs, allowed no walks and 5 or less hits, with 9 or more strikeouts, was…
Tim Hudson, May 2nd 2008 against Cincinnati
You have to go 10 years before that to find the next one…John Smoltz, Sept. 23rd 1998 against the Marlins (he only went five innings).
Lemke's Knuckler
August 29th, 2012
8:44 am
Halbert…”Hearing Uggla talk after the game was not exactly comforting. He hit a long home run so now he says, “I’m going to try to be that player for the last 30 games.” *sigh* So that means more swinging for the fences every at bat, no matter the count. More strikeouts, popups…etc. Ok. Doesn’t he realize “trying to be that player” is a big part of his problem?”
What he’s talking about is his hips and hands staying back on the ball. The reason he’s been scuffling is because his hips are flying open and he’s basically just dragging the bat through to just make contact. Last night and the night before, you saw his hips open up at the right time, which allows him to generate the bat speed he needs to hit the ball hard. That’s what he’s talking about being for the last 30 games.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
8:46 am
The only other pitcher for the Braves this year to strike out 9 and allow no walks in a game is Mike Minor, who’s actually done it twice.
Last time before that was Derek Lowe in 2010.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
8:50 am
Wonder why that last comment is awaiting moderation?
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
8:50 am
Medlen only faced 27 batters in 8 innings.
Only other Braves pitchers to pitch at least 8 and face 27 or less were Mike Minor vs. Philly in July, and Randall Delgado against Baltimore in June.
Before that, you go back to Tim Hudson doing it three times in 2010.
CB
August 29th, 2012
8:53 am
Enter your comments here
CB
August 29th, 2012
8:54 am
Ok, I have not had to register. What gives?
Jeff R
August 29th, 2012
8:55 am
Wonder why that last comment is awaiting moderation?
They want you to be more moderate, Lew.
Jeff R
August 29th, 2012
8:56 am
Neither did I. Not have to register, that is. Must be all my frequent blog miles have finally paid off.
CB
August 29th, 2012
8:58 am
Jeff R, we know you are VIP but why me?
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
8:59 am
Almost lost in last night’s performance…I LOVE the 2 pick-offs. Medlen may have the best move to first of any pitcher in the game. He needs to work some more with Hanson.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
9:00 am
Since his debut in 2009, Kris Medlen has picked off 1.8% of the baserunners he has allowed (6 pickoffs on 330 baserunners).
That’s the highest percentage for any right-handed pitcher with over 200 innings pitched in that span.
In fact, in the live ball era, only nine right-handed pitchers with over 200 career IP have a higher pickoff rate than Medlen.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
9:00 am
Jeff R – Maybe so – after all I am so radical – in my failure to be terminally negative.
I didn’t have to register, either.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
9:02 am
Maybe it awaits moderation because I referred to Medlen without mentioning Maddux.
CB
August 29th, 2012
9:04 am
Lew, new blog rule. He is now Maddox Medlen. Keep up with the program.
ncscoots
August 29th, 2012
9:04 am
I think DOB should put an asterisks by the names of all the people that were Kris Medlen doubters…just so we know that person has a limited baseball IQ
ncscoots*
Though I never doubted his ability to pitch. Just his ability to do it over 30+ starts in a season, and 200+ IP. And despite his totally unconscious performance for the past month, I think I’ll hold on to a tiny bit of skepticism yet
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
9:05 am
Medlen can’t really be this good…he’s way too short, and doesn’t throw 95mph. Everyone knows that you must be a big power pitcher to succeed…or even be respected…or even be noticed.
CB
August 29th, 2012
9:05 am
Dang, Maddux.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
9:07 am
Since June 15th, in 6 starts and 17 relief appearances, Kris Medlen has a 0.95 ERA in 66.2 IP.
CB
August 29th, 2012
9:09 am
I love it, scoots doing the back slide on Medlen.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
9:11 am
Uggla does have a .796 OPS over his last 20 games. .796 is higher than the total 2012 OPS of both Prado and Bourn.
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
9:11 am
I know I’m supposed to distrust everything this shorty does…. And that, when he does succeed we all must join together and qualify the opponent as Major League in name only… And that, he shouldn’t ever really be given an opportunity because there’s always a taller person available who’s chance should never be stolen by the devil. But, I gotta say, Medlen is doing very well. And, I knew he would.
Awesome game last night.
ncscoots
August 29th, 2012
9:14 am
I love it, scoots doing the back slide on Medlen
I know people will think that; doesn’t bother me. My position on the guy is the same as it ever was, though.
The nuance might not be apparent some, I expect, LOL.
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
9:15 am
.796 is higher than the total 2012 OPS of both Prado and Bourn
That’s really not fair to treat Prado that way. Bourn never has high OPS’s. He’s a career 91 OPS+… and that includes this, his single best season… prior to this year he was a career 88 OPS+ player…. so hand that man 20% of the payroll.
CrαZy
August 29th, 2012
9:17 am
Since this blog was written pre-format change I don’t think you have to register for it… you will in new blogs. Go to the AJC home page and on the top right you’ll see sign in register. Hope all of your names aren’t taken like mine was… My new name is (aka_CraZy)
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
9:18 am
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
#SFGiants lost cheating melky, #dodgers traded for the world. ye, SF leads by 3 1/2 games now. bochy doing nice job.
Medlen is outperforming what I thought he would do… he might regress to the mean, but that might not happen until next year… the kid is unstoppable right now.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
9:19 am
The Braves have a very easy remaining schedule, but it’s been true all along that, while not quite as weak, Washington plays a lot of losing teams down the stretch, too. It’s huge that they have lost four in a row against the teams with losing records. So at the same time as their win-loss record is decreasing, their remaining strength of schedule is increasing. 7 against STL, 3 against ATL, and 3 against LAD still to come.
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
9:24 am
Over his last 20 starts, Medlen has gone 10-0 with a 2.82 ERA, averaged 6.1 innings per start, surrendered a .254/.290/.387 oppo-line and the team is 19-1.
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
9:26 am
he might regress to the mean
What’s Medlen’s mean he is supposed to regress to? I don’t think he’ll keep pitching shutouts, but really, the guy hasn’t been around that long, so how does one know what his mean is other than projection and “potential upside;” two viewpoints that are nice guidelines, but by no means laws of the sport.
tiger297
August 29th, 2012
9:26 am
10paul – u have the stats in his loss? how many runs did we score for him?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
9:26 am
Joe Mauer is on waivers….. should get him to replace BMac
Lew
August 29th, 2012
9:28 am
Crazy – Apparently we’re already registered.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
9:29 am
They told me that not only is Lew taken, but my email address is taken, too
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
9:30 am
You can’t just assume games will be easy, no matter the record. SD had an 8 game win streak prior to last night. Phillies have beaten Nats 5 of last 6. Many other examples.
Bottom feeders have positives going for them, unless they are a totally beaten down team that has given up. The have professional pride (hopefully), at least some major league talent, Young enthusiastic guys who have been given a chance to show what they can do, NO PRESSURE to win, although Shaun will tell you that pressure doesn’t affect big leaguers.
Contending teams have great pressure to perform.
And then there is just the nature of baseball. Bad teams can and do beat good teams on any given night. Any pitcher (even JJ, Lowe, etc.) can have a night where he is unhittable.
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
9:32 am
Of course, I’d rather have an “easy” schedule, than a “tough”one. I don’t want another Dodgers, Nats, Giants 10 game challenge again.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
9:32 am
So, Lew, does that mean that I can use my current details to log into any blog on AJC? Gotta try that…
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
9:34 am
Seems a few folks here are bending themselves into pretzels trying to explain how they were wrong — but not really wrong, just sorta wrong, OK entirely wrong — about Medlen, and how the Nationals have lost five in a row (and, by the way, apparently have considerable disagreement among key management officials, which inadvertently went public….)
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
9:34 am
Ah crap, don’t have a password….. very very interesting
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
9:34 am
AJC must be wrong. There’s only 1 Lew.
tiger297
August 29th, 2012
9:38 am
DOB – you have a link to the managment disagreement story? I havent seen that yet
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
9:41 am
I don’t understand about “signing in”. I’m having no trouble postin, just using my regular name and e-mail address.
tiger297
August 29th, 2012
9:41 am
lew – it may have you already registered…try to login
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
9:43 am
Keeping Mwdlen in BP early was brilliant…intentional or not. We don’t have to worry about exceeding innings pitched, a la Strasburg.
DiamondbackMac
August 29th, 2012
9:45 am
Lew
Good morning.
I saw this quote from Mac Thomason yesterday and thought you might enjoy it.
“Philadelphia, known as “The City of Brotherly Love” ever since Benjamin Franklin invented sarcasm in 1767, is the largest city in Pennsylvania and a suburb of New York.”
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
9:46 am
I was able to make one… not that I need it for this blog.
I wonder how many online users AJC has, someone on another blog might’ve taken someone’s name on this one…
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
9:48 am
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
the underpublicized kris medlen has 2 amazing streaks going. 28 1/3 scoreless innings. 17 #braves wins in his last 17 starts.
He sure is underpublicized…
Murph
August 29th, 2012
9:51 am
What’s all this about registration?
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
9:52 am
undersized = underpublicized = underappreciated. This is changing, at least for Medlen.
CB
August 29th, 2012
9:53 am
scoots, I was just pulling your leg on Medlen.
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
9:55 am
Murph – That was my question, but then, I’m frequently clueless, especially about technology.
Murph
August 29th, 2012
9:55 am
So…. sometime in mid-September Fredi is going to have to start looking at the rotation and getting guys in the right order for playoff time.
Who gets the Wild Card game?
If it were me, I’d get everything set so that Medlen would be starting that game, with Maholm and Hudson pitching the last 2 games of the season (those might be must-have wins to even reach the playoffs).
Keep Hanson and Sheets far, far, far away from the mound during that last 3 or 4 days if at all possible.
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
9:56 am
Murph – That’s what I thought, but then, I am often clueless, especially about technology.
Trader Jack
August 29th, 2012
9:57 am
There continues to be a growing disdain between Davey Johnson and Mike Rizzo. Centers around Johnson’s laid back managerial style, and the perception that the team lacks fire and a sense of urgency. This could get to be very interesting.
Personally I love it
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
9:58 am
Sorry about the “double post”. AI had trouble the first time, and thought it didn’t go through. I said I was clueless.
Random
August 29th, 2012
9:59 am
Jeff R (August 29th, 2012 6:56 am): “The Bravos need to take the rubber match in SD and even out their road trip.”
Oh?
How come?
Lew
August 29th, 2012
10:04 am
DBaqck – Ain’t that the truth.
Only Braves – I have no idea – I went to log in and it wouldn’t take my password, but sad my name and email were taken and that I looked familiar. Guess I did register – or have been usingm the same name and email for so long (8 seasons) that they just conceded that I knew who I was.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
10:07 am
Hmm, very interesting…. it let me create a log-in, same name and email I’ve been using already. They just haven’t sent me an email to verify it.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
10:09 am
Nice game from Medlen lastnight. We sure did need it.
monty
August 29th, 2012
10:09 am
monty
August 28th, 2012
10:07 am
Hot team vs. hot pitcher…somethings got to give.
DOB- “somethings gotta give..”
Glad I could be of assistance.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
10:10 am
The Braves gained three games in the division standings in the last week. If it continues at that pace, the Braves will win the division by 11 games!
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
10:15 am
Tommy Hanson has a 1.42 ERA in three career starts at PetCo, and won all three.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
10:15 am
I did not think Meds had enough pitches to go through lineups like this and if he attacked the zone as hard as he has been I thought he would get hit harder. But, conversely, even people who wanted to see Meds in the rotation could not have predicted this level of success. I’m sure Yogi Berra has some kind of quote about hindsight and predicting the future and whatever that quote is, I agree with it. Regardless, it’s a big shot in the arm to have Hudson pitching tough, Meds pitching lights out and Minor seeming to have turned some mental corner.
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
10:15 am
Seems a few folks here are bending themselves into pretzels trying to explain how they were wrong — but not really wrong, just sorta wrong, OK entirely wrong — about Medlen, and how the Nationals have lost five in a row (and, by the way, apparently have considerable disagreement among key management officials, which inadvertently went public….)
DOB, I respect your opinion greatly and don’t take this the wrong way – I’m sorry, but I have to say this – you said the exact same thing about Mike Minor after his Zona start in April. Nearly the exact same statement. I’m not saying Kris Medlen isn’t legit or isn’t going to be a solid member of this rotation for years to come. He’s shown more than Minor has, for sure…
But I will say that it’s baseball, and things can turn on a dime, just like they did for Mike Minor for near every start after that Arizona performance. But you and some others here nailed folks who criticized Minor’s ceiling and the Braves for picking him 7th overall in 2009
Medlen is very good, but let’s wait for a little larger sample where the kid has to pitch190-210 innings through one full season, which he hasn’t done yet, before saying everyone was wrong. Just sayin….
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
10:17 am
Overall, Tommy Hanson has never lost to the Padres…4-0 with a 2.01 ERA.
George Stein
August 29th, 2012
10:18 am
I was really wrong about Medlen. His command has been excellent and that change up is just unfair right now. I’m happy to see him succeed after the surgery, though.
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
10:18 am
When was the last time Heyward didn’t reach base during a game?
monty
August 29th, 2012
10:19 am
Medlen is everything I thought he would be, with sugar on top. If there’s a way to go back to blogs 3 years ago I could show what I thought about him, I thought he had more upside than Tommy Hanson. I’m sure I was one of the few(if any) who thought that at the time. Not that I was demeaning TH just that I really liked the competitive spirit Meds had and his ability to throw stikes and command the plate. And I did say at that time he reminded me of Maddux, with the changeup and running that 2 seamer back across the inside corner against LHB.
Jeff R
August 29th, 2012
10:20 am
Jeff R, we know you are VIP but why me?
Don’t underestimate yourself, CB.
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
10:20 am
When was the last time Heyward didn’t reach base during a game?
Last night.
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
10:21 am
Medlen has been great. I don;t think I’ve ever seen this sort of thing happen where he was in the pen for almost the entire season, moved into the rotation and went on this sort of streak. It’s awesome to see and I hope he can keep anything near this level of performance going through the end of the season.
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
10:22 am
Last night.
When was the last time Freeman didn’t reach base? Little League? I know you know it…
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
10:22 am
When was the last time Heyward didn’t reach base during a game?
Before last night, the last time he started and didn’t reach base was Aug. 7th at Philly. He had a couple of 0-1’s coming off the bench in that span.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 29th, 2012
10:24 am
Good game last night! That Medlen…boy oh boy. I know cabravesfan was very pleased…
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
10:25 am
u have the stats in his loss? how many runs did we score for him?
There was only one loss, and he left down by 1 in a 2-1 game against he Pirates. The Braves scored in the eighth to tie it, but then Saito blew it in the 10th..
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
10:26 am
When was the last time Freeman didn’t reach base?
August 18th.
DiamondbackMac
August 29th, 2012
10:29 am
Lew
Ain’t that the truth.
It certainly seems to be one of the least friendly cities I’ve seen during the few times I’ve visited.
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
10:30 am
Heyward was on a 17 start on-base streak which ended last night. If you include the pinch-hit games, then it isn’t so long (4 games). But I don’t include those.
Freeman is currently on a 10 game streak.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
10:32 am
DBack – Sometime I’ll share a few Philly horror stories with you that I don’t want to go into on the blog.
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
10:34 am
So I just want to stay focused and take it a start at a time, and whatever other cliché I can say
You know, if he were taller, he’d have the ability to remember more clichés
Murph
August 29th, 2012
10:35 am
Do people’s internet score go up if they were early Medlen supporters or something? Do they get some kind of award, maybe their names on a plaque at the end of the season?
There has to be something, some kind of recognition, with the way everyone on here is reminding everyone else about how they “may have been the only one” who thought Medlen would be great.
The rest of us bloggers aren’t on the “Medlen Supporters” voting committee. You can stop trying to earn interweb points or push your way towards a higher spot on the blog Wall of Fame. We all believe you.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
10:35 am
testing
Lew
August 29th, 2012
10:36 am
Thought they had all of the cliches posted on the clubhouse wall along with the MLB rules against gambling.
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
10:36 am
As a starter in his career, Kris Medlen: 24 starts, 143 IP, 134 hits, 52 ER, 15 HR allowed, 32 BB’s, 119 K’s, 7.5 K/9, 3.27 ERA.
jeffrey d
August 29th, 2012
10:36 am
Did you pass?
tiger297
August 29th, 2012
10:37 am
I’ve got some folks that sit with me in the outfield (older calm fans)that will tell you awful stories from games & road trips in philly as well
literally my wife does not like to attend phillies games in atlanta b/c of their fans
Murph
August 29th, 2012
10:38 am
PS – I didn’t think Medlen would do as well as he has based on some less-than-stellar bullpen appearances this season.
So… I guess my name will go on the “Medlen Detractors” plaque that hangs in the ladies locker room. Which is fine by me. Better scenery in there anyways.
jeffrey d
August 29th, 2012
10:38 am
literally my wife does not like to attend phillies games in atlanta b/c of their fans
Literally, eh?
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
10:38 am
Medlen’s past 4 starts: 4-0, 0.30 ERA, 22 hits, 2 walks, 29 strikeouts in 30-1/3 innings.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
10:39 am
Here is a 2009 scouting report on Hanson:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/192990-tommy-hanson-the-scouting-report
It’s a little over the top, but for Monty to say Medlen had more upside and he knew it is… ha.
Hanson’s problem was and is this hitch in is delivery. It robbed him of his mid 90s fastball, hurt his shoulder and has him dart tossing instead of pitching now. This season was about adjusting to life after a mid-90s fastball. The first half of the season, Hanson was pretty gritty. Not efficient and not going deep into game, but he was pitching ok and winning.
Will we see the pre-injury Hanson again? Maybe. Probably not. That’s a shame really. Should the Braves have altered his delivery before bringing him up? He is 6′ 6″ and 220 pounds. Should not be an arm pitcher, which he was and which junked the shoulder.
You can pretty much see where the shoulder injury occurred:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hansoto01.shtml
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
10:39 am
I’m still skeptical on a lot of pitchers/hitters. Still excited on the potential of the player, but one full season of 200 innings and a sub-3.50 ERA will make me feel a lot better about Kris. Hopefully 2013 will be that year. He better get that chance….
tiger297
August 29th, 2012
10:39 am
I’ll bet he did…
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
10:42 am
Freeman right at .276/.345/.455, 116 OPS+ for his age 21 and 22 year old seasons. Exciting to see what he becomes along side of Heyward hitting 3/4 in the lineup. If they both improve their hitting LHP, we’ve seriously got something….
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
10:46 am
Mets and Braves have just owned the Phillies this year. 4-9 vs. the Mets. 3-9 vs. the Braves.
7-18 vs. the Mets and Braves, 54-50 vs. the rest of the MLB.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
10:46 am
Good numbers for Meds, Efrim… just needs 8 more starts for a full season. Might get those 8 if we can get to the NLCS… then we’ll see how good 1 yr of Medlen is.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
10:46 am
Murph – Not to mention that at AAA, Medlen gave up 7 ER in 13 IP.
Meds is at 108 IP for the year (ATL. and Gwinnett combined). He has never pitched more than 120 innings professionally – not minors or majors. It should be interesting to see if he can continue the dominanace now that he’s approaching the most innings he’s ever pitched.
We’d like to see this trend continue – both the rest of this year and through 2-13 and beyond. However, far cry [itching 120 innings or less and going over 200 as someone that good would be expected to.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
10:47 am
2013 – not 2-13
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
10:47 am
I think those Phillies are going to be a lot more dangerous next year. But there is just no way around the age on that team. And Dom Brown isn’t the answer as an injection of youth as an everyday player.
Enquiring Minds Want To Know
August 29th, 2012
10:48 am
Kris Meddux is en fuego!
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
10:49 am
We’d like to see this trend continue – both the rest of this year and through 2-13 and beyond. However, far cry [itching 120 innings or less and going over 200 as someone that good would be expected to.
Pretty much all I’d point out as well. Heck, Brandon Beachy hasn’t thrown more than 150+ in his short career and he’ll be on a 160-180 count in 2014 if they do the same thing for him as they are doing for Medlen.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
10:50 am
Hanson’s problem was and is this hitch in is delivery. It robbed him of his mid 90s fastball, hurt his shoulder and has him dart tossing instead of pitching now…..Should not be an arm pitcher, which he was and which junked the shoulder.
Which is why Medlen is the better pitcher…. smoother mechanics, and he does use his legs/hips. Those issues right there is why I can’t see many teams trading for Hanson…. that also means that FW is not likely to trade him because there won’t be many fair offers or Hanson will be non-tendered due to lack of roster space.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
10:50 am
However. Meds is over the magic 25 years old that proponents of the Vwerducci Effect site as being when increases to IP should be kept at a minimum, so maybe Meds could be throwing 200IP as early as next year. Doubt he would get there this year even pitching throughout a WS run.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
10:51 am
They aren’t going to non tender Hanson.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
10:54 am
They aren’t going to non tender Hanson.
Not this off-season anyway.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
10:54 am
Anyone have Insider? Interested in the story about catchers…
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
What is nuts about MLB waiting to change rules on blocking home is that inevitably, it will happen. Logic will dictate. http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog/_/name/olney_buster/id/8313130/yadier-molina-latest-catcher-shaken-unnecessary-collision-mlb
CB
August 29th, 2012
10:54 am
I don’t who Kris Medlen is, is he an unpredicted ace type of pitcher or a fluke or somewhere in between? All I really know is he is fun to watch so far. Let’s enjoy the ride!
Murph
August 29th, 2012
10:55 am
Has Teheran started since he had that great game last week? Anyone know of a place to view MiLB highlights?
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
10:55 am
TOBF, they are not non-tendering Tommy Hanson. Good lord, man. Even at 88-90mph, he’s still at least a solid #3/#4 starter for most all teams. Look at some of the starting pitchers in some of the rotations around the league. You don’t think they could use Hanson as a member of their rotation? Please.
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
10:55 am
TOBF, they are not non-tendering Tommy Hanson. Good lord, man. Even at 88-90mph, he’s still at least a solid #3/#4 starter for most all teams. Look at some of the starting pitchers in some of the rotations around the league. You don’t think they could use Hanson as a member of their rotation? Please.
brian
August 29th, 2012
10:56 am
DOB at 10:38 – those look like Ace material stats don’t they!!
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 29th, 2012
10:57 am
Reading about Molina’s collision…
Cardinals pitcher Jake Westbrook hit [Josh] Harrison with a pitch later in the game.
Haha! Good for him…
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
10:57 am
32 games left. Amazing how fast the season goes.
brian
August 29th, 2012
10:57 am
agree Efrim – whether they trade Hanson or not, I do not know but no way will they non-tender Hanson.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
10:57 am
They aren’t going to non tender Hanson.
Even if there’s no space for him and no good trades exist? I can’t see the Braves bumping Meds out of the rotation for him….
Only way he stays is if Minor/Maholm get traded (not happening), Teheran/Delgado can’t get a rotation spot (again) or we don’t sign/trade for a pitcher this offseason (I think we do). There would be no room for him, imo.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 29th, 2012
10:58 am
TOBF—
That would be an int’resting read…
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
10:58 am
Only way he stays in the rotation, I mean…. I guess he could go into long relief, but 2.5-3 mil is a lot to pay for that… esp. since he’s never done that before
Jeff R
August 29th, 2012
10:58 am
Hanson’s a Brave in ‘13 or he’s traded. No non-tender. Wouldn’t make sense.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
10:59 am
I still think it’s hindsight to say to this (Hanson > Meds) was predictable in 2009. If you have a pitcher on paper, who is 6′ 6″ and 220+ with a mid 90s fastball and some nice off speed stuff… that’s the total package. It had Adam Wainwright in CY contention for a couple of years. But sometimes it’s hard to take a Kerry Wood or Mark Prior and say, you’re doing it wrong! But look what happens when you don’t.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
10:59 am
I think the Braves, if they had to, would be able to find a trade partner for Hanson. Don’t see him as a non-tender candidate yet.
Train Wreck Bystander
August 29th, 2012
10:59 am
New Braves page at AJC looks nice.
Slept through last night’s game; looking forward to today’s more fan friendly start time.
GO BRAVES
Jeff R
August 29th, 2012
11:00 am
I think Wren would be able to trade Hanson. What his return would be is another question.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
11:00 am
Could dig around this sight some for MiLB:
http://www.milb.com/index.jsp
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
11:00 am
Could dig around this site some for MiLB:
http://www.milb.com/index.jsp
CrαZy
August 29th, 2012
11:01 am
I’ve been telling people since 2009, that Medlen was going to be Maddux like….
Did I do it right?
nolie
August 29th, 2012
11:02 am
Is there any real reason for us to assume that Hey and/or Freddie will get all that much better against lefties. lots of players never do……
jeffrey d
August 29th, 2012
11:03 am
If we’re meshing names, I think it should be Kreg Meddux.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
11:03 am
BMac doesn’t need to be blocking the plate like Molina did any time soon, don’t want to see him get hit like that…
Efrim and others…. Why would any team trade for Hanson? Good Lord, he’s been bad… worse than a #5. Not quite JJ-like but getting there. The man’s damaged goods. He’s been pretty horrible since June. I can’t see any team trading for him and giving up a decent prospect/MLB player…. and esp. not in a deal that FW would like.
MFin04
August 29th, 2012
11:04 am
Kris Medlen, 6 years, $100 million. Get it done. Don’t care if he is a #4, I bet he is slowly climbing on those charts, isn’t he?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
11:05 am
Yeah, we can trade Hanson for some A+ prospect who’s 25 and likely to never get to the Bigs… sure. Don’t think (and nor should he) that Frank Wren would accept that trade.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 29th, 2012
11:05 am
Holy crud, that was a nasty play! Almost looked like Erstad-Estrada only not as dirty…
Hope Molina doesn’t end up like Estrada…
nolie
August 29th, 2012
11:05 am
Hanson non-tendered? Highly doubtful.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
11:05 am
Don’t think (and nor should he) that Frank Wren would accept that trade.
Better than non-tendering, right?
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
11:05 am
Philly fans do seam to have quite an attitude (I mean, who else would boo Santa?)…you know, the one we Southerners particularly hate? (I won’t use the “Y” word). Seems worse than NY and others.
Many of us Hurrucane fans have quit going to Buffaloe Sabers games. I can’t sell my tickets, or even give them away, their fans are so bad. They get drunk, pick fights, even vandalize cars ing the parking lot. Hurricanes hire extra security, and hand out instructions on crowd conduct just in those games. Philly, Pittsburg, and Boston fans are bad, but NOTHING compared to Sabers.
CrαZy
August 29th, 2012
11:06 am
McFann… I liked Harrison’s reaction to getting hit, knew it was coming and took it like a man and afterwards admitted that he didn’t have a problem with it because he took out one of their best players. Not sure why the Pirates bench acted like a bunch of school girls after he got hit. I didn’t think anything was wrong with what went down. It’s not like the Cards threw at his head!
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 29th, 2012
11:06 am
TOBF don’t want to see him get hit like that…
Heck no! He already sorta was back in ‘08 when The Reaper Victorino knocked him cold and gave him the concussion…
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
11:06 am
Last time I went to a Sabers game, their fans were yelling “Let’s Go Buffaloe” during the National Anthem.
MFin04
August 29th, 2012
11:07 am
“Reading about Molina’s collision…
Cardinals pitcher Jake Westbrook hit [Josh] Harrison with a pitch later in the game.
Haha! Good for him…”
Yeh, I watched that whole thing develop yesterday. The Cardinals’ announcers wouldn’t stop whining about their pitcher hitting Harrison. Then once the game got to 5-0, he nailed the guy.
I’m ok with pitchers hitting guys, but the play at the plate wasn’t malicious at all. If you block the plate, you will get run over. Not sure a guy should get hit for playing baseball.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
11:07 am
If they don’t trade Hanson he will be in the rotation next year.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
11:08 am
Philly has been historically a tough town since the vaudeville circuit.not gonna chance.
I liked the quote about Ben Franklin inventing sarcasm with the Brotherly Love sobriquet
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
11:08 am
If they don’t trade Hanson he will be in the rotation next year.
I agree with this, but I might be more inclined to say it like this: “If there is no place in the rotation for Hanson next year, he will be traded.”
CrαZy
August 29th, 2012
11:09 am
McFann have you ever seen the hit Molina took early in his career? I think it was his rookie year…
nolie
August 29th, 2012
11:10 am
we should know by now that a team can never have too many decent starters
Murph
August 29th, 2012
11:11 am
Hanson won’t be non-tendered. The rest of you, though… well, you might not want to get too comfortable. Guys like Ward and Veer are just getting to expensive to keep.
Who’s next? Could be you… could be me.
jeffrey d
August 29th, 2012
11:11 am
Why does it seem like fans are unhappy that Medlen is pitching well or that Uggla hit a homerun? It’s almost as if they’d rather say “I told you he so!” than see the Braves do well.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
11:12 am
Brian – The way it stands now, the rotation will be Hudson, Hanson, Mahom, Medlen and Minor. If not traded, I just don’;t see Hanson supplanted in the rotation by either Teheran or Delgado – I’d be more willing to believe that JT or RD are traded if Hanson is not or that one of them will be and the other enters Atlanta’s bul to start 2013.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
11:12 am
lets let it be Carrot Flower
Lew
August 29th, 2012
11:13 am
enters Atlanta’s bullpen.
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
11:13 am
Is there any real reason for us to assume that Hey and/or Freddie will get all that much better against lefties. lots of players never do……
I think both of them hit em in the minors. Possible that they don’t, but at 23, I’m hoping they’ll get better at facing them. They don’t have to kill em – just not make it so bad that they are like Howard or Ethier.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
11:15 am
I don’t really see anybody unhappy about Meds, but I see some who seem more happy about ripping folks who thought he was more valuable in the pen, than the fact that it helps the Braves so much
MFin04
August 29th, 2012
11:15 am
“Why does it seem like fans are unhappy that Medlen is pitching well or that Uggla hit a homerun?”
It goes against their beliefs. Some believe Uggla sucks and should be traded. While others believe that Medlen is a #4 and since he is a number 4, he can never pitch like a #1 or #2.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
11:15 am
I think any one of Hanson, Teheran, Delgado, and Minor could be trade candidates. Some more likely than others. The most likely rotation members are Hudson, Maholm, and Medlen, I think. Lot of stuff to shake out, and too much can happen. I have a hard enough time thinking about the rest of this season…too early for 2013.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
11:17 am
Greinke,Shields,Medlen, Hudson,Maholm ?
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 29th, 2012
11:18 am
Crazy—
That’s cool. And I liked how he was clapping when Molina got up. I really shouldn’t have commenting on their hitting Harrison before I watched the play—because now after watching it, I see it wasn’t a horribly dirty play like Erstad (but that’s not to say I wouldn’t want our guys to hit a guy if he took BMac out like that…wanted the Reaper plunked for quite a while…)
No, haven’t seen the one from earlier in his career, but the article said it was eight years ago to the day, and also at PNC. That’s freaky…
OK, gotta go for a bit—see y’all, later!…
MFin04
August 29th, 2012
11:21 am
“I think both of them hit em in the minors. Possible that they don’t, but at 23, I’m hoping they’ll get better at facing them.”
Hope so. Not everyone can be Chipper and have the exact same splits vs lefties and righties for a career. Those are crazy numbers, especially hitting from opposite sides of the plate with two different swings.
But wow, those splits for Heyward and Freeman L vs R are pretty drastic. Two completely different players depending on who is pitching.
CB
August 29th, 2012
11:22 am
Catchers standing in the middle of baseline leave themselves open for what happened to Molina. The only other alternative is a rule that doesn’t allow a catcher to do that. Really not sure MLB would ever go that direction.
MFin04
August 29th, 2012
11:23 am
“too early for 2013…”
Except for signing Michael Bourn.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
11:23 am
Hanson is gonna be 1 expensive bullpen long-relief guy….
Greinke,Shields,Medlen, Hudson,Maholm ?
I love that! Unlikely to happen though…
If they don’t trade Hanson he will be in the rotation next year.
Oh Lord…. that’s gonna be tough to watch… he’s gotten worse every year in the bigs, that would just be awful.
Better than non-tendering, right?
True…. but it’s not a salary dump, so I don’t think Wren would accept. We’ll see, I guess. Hopefully we can get him traded.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
11:23 am
No one would expect Heyward and Freeman to hit lefties equally as well as righties. But floating a .750-.780 OPS against lefties would make them truly elite hitters.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
11:24 am
The only other alternative is a rule that doesn’t allow a catcher to do that. Really not sure MLB would ever go that direction.
Don’t the rules already state that a defensive player can’t be in the path of the runner without the baseball, or it’s interference? Home plate is the only place where this is allowed.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
11:25 am
I don’t see Minor being trade bait. Not after how he’s pitched the past couple of months. Kind of stupid to refuse to trade him last year and ditch him now that he’s starting to pitch like they thought he would.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
11:26 am
we should know by now that a team can never have too many decent starters
Key word being decent…. Hanson hasn’t been close to that for a while now…
MFin04
August 29th, 2012
11:26 am
“Home plate is the only place where this is allowed.”
I’ve always wondered why guys don’t just run over the SS covering 2nd. Just run straight through the guy to knock the ball out of his glove. Would be great viewing.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
11:26 am
Medlen’s past 4 starts: 4-0, 0.30 ERA, 22 hits, 2 walks, 29 strikeouts in 30-1/3 innings.
Just goes to show, when your not giving free passes to first.. good things happen.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
11:28 am
I don’t see Minor being trade bait. Not after how he’s pitched the past couple of months. Kind of stupid to refuse to trade him last year and ditch him now that he’s starting to pitch like they thought he would.
What if he was used in a package to acquire a 40-HR hitting left-fielder? I don’t have anything in particular in mind, I’m just saying…almost nobody can be ruled out as trade bait.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
11:30 am
What if he was used in a package to acquire a 40-HR hitting left-fielder?
I’m not so sure that there’s one of these in the majors.
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
11:31 am
TOBF – I’m with you more often than not, but your Hansonlogic eludes me.
He currently has value as at least a #3 or #4, to us, or someone else. If we don’t need him, he has some trade value, probably a lot more more than you think. Even if you are right, how is non-tendering him better for the Braves than trading him for WHATEVER we can get for him?
He may improve, with work and coaching. Hard to see him having no value, unless a major, MAJOR new injury.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
11:32 am
I don’t think that there ARE any 40 HR hitting oufielders up for trade.
Hillbilly
August 29th, 2012
11:32 am
They discussed it on MLB Tonight last night. Harrison recalled a play last season against the Astros when he tried to slide around the catcher at home and ended up getting a shoulder to the face. He was bloodied and hurt because of it. He said he remembered that play as he was rounding 3rd so going in hard was his best bet.
Cardinal fans are whiners. It was a clean play. No malicios intent whatsoever.
MFin04
August 29th, 2012
11:33 am
“What if he was used in a package to acquire a 40-HR hitting left-fielder?”
Umm does he do steroids and/or know someone who makes late deliveries at FedEx?
abeeeewright
August 29th, 2012
11:33 am
Not that anyone cares, but just to show which side of the Meldeeeen fence I stand on …
I share scoots’s concern regarding Medlen’s durability and up-side. Many other pitchers have had a good run, even for as much as a year, before falling back to earth.
When Medlen’s done it, you can say, “he’s done it.” (Pitch 200 innings, maintained a 2.00 ERA)
HOWEVER, Medlen’s done enough to deserve a chance to show whether he can do it for a full season or not. I was definitely upset when Jurrjens got his final shot before Medlen got his.
I understand the innings pitched limit thing. However, it seemed the Braves were going to pass Kris over this year and that was pretty unfair.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
11:34 am
Right, guys…it was a hypothetical. My very next sentence said “I don’t have have anyone in particular in mind…”
The point was…the Braves would absolutely trade Minor if, and only if, it made the team better.
tiger297
August 29th, 2012
11:34 am
big difference in leading with your head and your shoulder…harrison play was clean peckertino not so much
Jeff R
August 29th, 2012
11:36 am
I think any one of Hanson, Teheran, Delgado, and Minor could be trade candidates.
I think management is pretty heavily committed to Minor. Not saying he’s untouchable, but I think he’s a keeper.
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
11:38 am
Still excited on the potential of the player, but one full season of 200 innings and a sub-3.50 ERA will make me feel a lot better about Kris. Hopefully 2013 will be that year. He better get that chance….
You must put Meds potential way up there. I love Medlen. I think he’ll be a fine addition to this team. I just don’t expect him to pitch below 3.50. My expectations for him, over a full season, are 6+ innings a start, and around a league average ERA… Personal bias hopes for better than league average ERA, but I’d be very pleased with just a 100 ERA+ and an 6+ IP per start out of him. That’s be huge for this rotation. The Braves have been teetering on the wrong side of 6IP per start for a while and spending way to much on the “proven innings eater” in Free Agency.
CB
August 29th, 2012
11:38 am
You could probably get a pretty good haul for Medlen right now if you traded him.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
11:38 am
Brian – There are really only three outfielders in all of MLB with a chance of hitting 40 HR’s this year.
Josh Hamilton is a Free Agent so you wouldn’t need to trade Minor for him. Curtis Granderson is not going to BE traded by the Yankees. Ryan Braun is going to be traded by the Brewers. Giancoarlo Santon is not going to be traded by the Marlins (for anything short of a King’s, Queen’s, Prince’s and Princesses’s ransom (which we don’t really have and Miami is a division riva).
That’s it.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
11:38 am
Not saying he’s untouchable, but I think he’s a keeper.
I agree…and that was my only point. He’s not untouchable. I think there’s a 98% probability he’ll be in the rotation next year.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
11:39 am
Even if you are right, how is non-tendering him better for the Braves than trading him for WHATEVER we can get for him?
True, anything is better than nothing. If it comes down to that, maybe FW will make that trade. I just can’t see him taking a prospect that’s not very good (like “Salary Relief”) for Hanson… no matter if we need the rotation spot. He’ll find a spot on this team for him.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
11:39 am
DOB Blog math – 4 players if Stanton can hitt eleven from here to the end of the season.
cabravesfan
August 29th, 2012
11:41 am
McFann-
You’ve got mail!!
Kat
August 29th, 2012
11:41 am
TheOnlyBravesFan – nope traveling back to NY today.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
11:41 am
OK, I’m sorry for saying 40-HR outfielder, even though that was the least important words in my post. Pretend I said “very good outfielder” instead.
MFin04
August 29th, 2012
11:42 am
“The Braves have been teetering on the wrong side of 6IP per start for a while and spending way to much on the “proven innings eater” in Free Agency.”
Yep. And the funny thing is, was Medlen was limited to like a 80 pitch limit in some of his starts and still was going 6 innings. The guy has been phenomenal.
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
11:42 am
A few people are untradable. (Hudson for example…sorry AT) Other than that, every player has a value, both to the Braves, and to the team wishing to acquire him. This includes not only his ability and potential, cost, years under control, and even popularity with the fans and value in the clubhouse, as well as marketing and team image, etc.
A GM must determine that value, and compare it to the total value of potential trade target to the team. Generally, you should make a trade if, and only if it improves the team overall. You could say, however, that everyone has a price, and could be traded. For some, that would take one hell of a deal.
Hillbilly
August 29th, 2012
11:42 am
Not sure why the Pirates bench acted like a bunch of school girls after he got hit. I didn’t think anything was wrong with what went down. It’s not like the Cards threw at his head!
Crazy, Best I could tell, the Pirates were upset about receiving a warning over it. Can’t say that I blame them. Both teams were handling it well. There never seemed to be a threat of a brawl or anything. Let them police it themselves if they aren’t acting like idiots about it.
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2012
11:44 am
Just registered – might lose the space between my names – I’ll be like one of those people who adds eee’s and ends up with multiple listings on the cumulative blog totals…
Lew
August 29th, 2012
11:45 am
Brian – They’re not going to trade Minor even for a “very good outfielder”.
They have money this year and they have minor league pitching depth that will be used for trades if any come about. They aren’t going to dump [pitching – especially MLB ready pitching that’s been pitching well.
And they aren’t going to revamp the rotation like so many here seem to believe. Wren has other needs to fill this winter and he needs to negotiate some longer term dels for several players. He hjas more than enough to do than to mess around with a srength – and our pitching IS a strength.
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2012
11:45 am
Foggy start to the morning in San Diego outside the hotel window…
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
11:45 am
Hanson has pitched much better away from the Ted this year…
At Home: Oppo. .295/.369/.467/.836 with a 4.81 ERA
Away: Oppo. .249/.329/.431/.760 with a 4.01 ERA
Been very bad in the 2nd half…
1st half: Oppo. .254/.322/.421/.744 with a 3.71 ERA
2nd half: Oppo. .323/.425/.532/.957 with a 6.82 ERA
When I get back, I’ll post recent stats for him, like since June…. He’s been bad, and I don’t know why anyone would trade for him.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
11:45 am
I notice that no one seems to believe that they’ll offer Sheets a deal for 2013.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
11:46 am
I think there’s a 98% probability he’ll be in the rotation next year.
I’d be willing to say more like 99.9% chance.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
11:46 am
Sheets getting an offer would probably be contingent on the going rate.
JoeFan
August 29th, 2012
11:47 am
The only question mark in the Braves rotation in 2013 is whether Hanson will be part of it. Hudson, Minor, Medlen and Maholm are almost a certainty. Don’t believe the Braves will throw huges bucks at Greinke. Hanson is a big question mark especially if Beachy is recovered by July-August. The Braves have stocked piled pitchers who if packaged correctly can bring a LF, CF, 3B or 2B depending on which way they opt to move. But the starting rotatin 1-4 should be set barring injury.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
11:49 am
I’d be willing to bet that Maholm would be traded before Minor.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
11:51 am
The Braves really only have like 2 spots in the lineup that they really need to fill this offseason. That’s really it and that number possibly may be 1 depending on the Bourn outcome.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
11:51 am
I don’t think they’ll offer Sheets a contract for next year.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
11:54 am
They won’t trade Maholm, either – not with him only making $6.5 mil next year – they likely can’t replace his production for that much. Hives up a couple of HR’s, but he’s still pitched pretty well since coming to the Braves – just not getting the run support. He’s a keeper – at least for 2013.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
11:54 am
they have minor league pitching depth….He hjas more than enough to do than to mess around with a srength – and our pitching IS a strength.
And that’s exactly why I think if there’s an opportunity to make it that much more stronger, you’ve got to make the move.. of course that’s within reason.
Jeff R
August 29th, 2012
11:54 am
By the way, did anyone see the video of the homer that Pedro Alvarez hit last night at PNC Park? Launched the thing over the right field wall nearly to the river.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
11:55 am
Tommy Hanson
August: 2 starts, .304/.373/.500/.873 with a 5.73 ERA (11 IP)
Since July 1: 8 starts, .301/.385/.489/.874 with a 6.09 ERA (44.1 IP)
Since June 1: 13 starts, .273/.348/.491/.839 with a 4.86 ERA (76 IP)
Since May 1: 19 starts, .278/.355/.477/.833 with a 5.79 ERA (107 IP)
Random
August 29th, 2012
11:56 am
MFin04 (August 29th, 2012 11:26 am): ” ‘Home plate is the only place where this is allowed.’
“I’ve always wondered why guys don’t just run over the SS covering 2nd. Just run straight through the guy to knock the ball out of his glove. Would be great viewing.”
Maybe so.
But unlike home plate, if you overrun second base you’re gonna be tagged out. The shortstop or second baseman wouldn’t even try to block the base (they actually rarely do now) — they’d just holler “Ole” and slap you on the ass as you passed.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
11:56 am
I’m just not has high on Maholm, I think if you can get a decent return you’ve got to make the move. He’s a FA after next season and your not going to sign him long term so it makes much more sense to move him even over Hanson.
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
11:57 am
DOB, I respect your opinion greatly and don’t take this the wrong way – I’m sorry, but I have to say this – you said the exact same thing about Mike Minor after his Zona start in April. Nearly the exact same statement. I’m not saying Kris Medlen isn’t legit or isn’t going to be a solid member of this rotation for years to come. He’s shown more than Minor has, for sure… — Efrim
I didn’t take it the wrong way. Because I honestly don’t even know what your point is.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
11:57 am
So please, do pardon me if I don’t think he belongs in our rotation, or has much trading value…. I can’t see what there is to like about it. Why would someone trade for that?!
BTW, Mike Minor was putting up ERA’s similar to that earlier this year, but with better OBA/OBP lines, and was “needed” to be removed from this team’s rotation…. possibly with a trade. Why is it different with Hanson?
Jeff R
August 29th, 2012
11:58 am
They won’t trade Maholm, either – not with him only making $6.5 mil next year – they likely can’t replace his production for that much.
What’s the chances that the Braves practically stand pat on starting pitching until Beachy returns? Or moves Hanson out (via trade) and Delgado in? Then Wren figures things out based on Beachy’s timetable?
Means more dough to dump into the outfield if a pricier starting pitcher isn’t sought, I would think.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
11:58 am
Well, I suppose to some that it makes perfect sense that if you have to fill a couple of outfield positions and negotiate some longer term deals that you’d think about getting pitching instead. Not sure why though.
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
11:58 am
Some won’t consider any of them an “ace”, but I’m pretty OK with Minor, Medlen, Hudson (post bone spur surgery), Maholm, and other in-house options. I think we should also consider another year of Sheets, if he can show that the recent drop-off is fatigue from 2 years of inactivity, and that he can still pitch at a high level (especially with power).
If we could pick up a true #1 by trade, at low cost and a couple of years control, I would be OK with that as well. However, I we have needs at CF, LF and 3rd, with only 1 of those being filled by Prado. I prefer to use our resouces there. I definitely say NO to a major investment in Greinke.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
11:59 am
and our pitching IS a strength.
Potentially… 24th in Quality starts this year. Hopefully we’re better next year.
I notice that no one seems to believe that they’ll offer Sheets a deal for 2013.
I never thought he would be back… he seems to have been signed only because our young guys sukked earlier this year. Next year, they should all be better and/or we’ll have a top of the rotation pitcher as well.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
12:00 pm
The Family Circus Method of Offseason acquisition – instead of moving in a straight line, you go all over the neighborhood instead. But I suppose some just like going around their ass to get to their elbow.
brian
August 29th, 2012
12:01 pm
agree Lew – Minor is not going anywhere
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
12:02 pm
I definitely say YESto a reasonable (as it’s likely to be) investment in Greinke.
Fixed it!
Lew
August 29th, 2012
12:02 pm
Quality starts? YOu mean the stat that many seem to feel is idiotic to begin with?
Not necessary to have quality starts when you have the back end of a bullpen like the Braves do – even without many quality starts, the numbers are pretty definitive – if the Braves hold the lead after six innings, they WILL win.
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
12:04 pm
I’m just not has high on Maholm, I think if you can get a decent return you’ve got to make the move. He’s a FA after next season and your not going to sign him long term so it makes much more sense to move him even over Hanson. — Arkansas Transplant
Why would you think they’d trade the proven veteran who’s having his best season and has an extremely affordable $6.5 million option in 2013? That was one of the main points cited when Braves officials got him, the fact that they didn’t have to give up prospects to get a rental player — they got a guy under contractual control for another season, and a very reasonable contract at that.
Would make no sense to trade Maholm and replace him with an unproven and/or erratic younger pitcher. Maholm and Minor will give the Braves two solid lefties in next year’s rotation.
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
12:04 pm
Then Wren figures things out based on Beachy’s timetable?
Wren should not be planning the rotation for next year based on Beachy. He should spend the winter building a rotation as if Beachy isn’t going to be available at all and plan on Beachy being a part of it in 2014.
Pitchers can come back from the surgery fast these days, but they are limited in their work and typically their results take a while to catch up. So build as if he isn’t there. By the time he is back, the team might need him to fill in for some other pitcher. Or the team might not need him at all, which will allow him to come back and get in the groove without negatively impacting the team.
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
12:05 pm
Why would you think they’d trade the proven veteran…
DOB, AT is always looking for an angle to trade a player.
Gone Viral
August 29th, 2012
12:06 pm
Dear Kris Medlen: I love you. I’m in love with you.
King of Carrot Flowers
August 29th, 2012
12:07 pm
Here’s a question for the blog about pitching limits, which I’ve never heard addressed…
When trying to protect a pitcher’s arm over the course of one game, pitch count is king. Innings don’t matter. If a pitcher is allowed 100 pitches, he can do it in 5 innings or 9 innings.
Yet when trying to protect a pitcher’s arm over the course of an entire season, it’s all about innings.
What’s the logic there? One pitcher could throw 200 innings with the same number of total pitches that it takes another pitcher to throw 140 innings. Why have a one-size-fits-all innings limit?
DiamondbackMac
August 29th, 2012
12:08 pm
Lew
The Family Circus Method of Offseason acquisition
Thanks for that. It brought a smile on a gloomy day.
DS1
August 29th, 2012
12:09 pm
Great game last night. Very good to put a face with the names for Venice Jim, cab and Kat.
All great folks!
And now I am 2-1 on the season. It’s all on VJ and cab to keep the Braves going today!
Spending the day w/ extended family, but my smart phone keeps me updated w/ the score.
Bo Graves!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
12:10 pm
YOu mean the stat that many seem to feel is idiotic to begin with?
Yeah, that one…. it’s still important to get those… it means that your pitchers are going about 6 innings, and allowing 3 or fewer runs.
Doing so usually puts your team in a great spot to win the game. Can’t go 5 innings and allow 5 runs and expect to win often, no matter how good your back of the ‘pen is…. ask the Padres. They’re 21st in quality starts (not good, but better than us) and have a great back end of the bullpen.
Brava
August 29th, 2012
12:12 pm
I don’t have a warm and fuzzy about today’s game. Eric Stults LHP, Hanson, day game (balls likely to go out). Sure hope the Braves can pull it out, but the odds aren’t in their favor.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
12:12 pm
DOB, I’d still move Maholm before I would Hanson. Hanson presently is a backend rotation starter but he’s shown in the past he could very easily be a number 2 or 3 guy. Maholm has never shown that ability, he’s only thrown more than 200 innings once over his 7 year career, has a career WHIP of 1.395. Hanson on the other hand has also thrown over 200 innings once in his 4 year career while posting a career WHIP of 1.242. I was simply saying, if there’s going to be someone moved over the offseason I’d be more inclined to move the guy that’s not going to be here past next season anyway and since we’ve already got a number 4 or 5 guy in Hanson for way less the price and he’s here past next season.
cricket
August 29th, 2012
12:13 pm
so we DFA’d Hanson, traded Minor for mythical 40-hr LF guy, traded Maholm so far here today? man, i thought i was busy at work..
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
12:14 pm
TOBF – I think you value Hanson too loe…12-6 (I know, dependant on run support) ERA 4.40, 2.08 SO/BB ratio…Not currently #1 anymore, but not chopped liver. Good value, if not to us, to someone else.
I think you undervalue our staff. You quote things like quality starts, but how do we stand in all stats since, oh let’s say, the all star break. JJ is no longer pitching, nor Delgado, Minor has figured it out, Maholm has been solid, Huddy great when not hurting, Sheets has already given much more than expected, and now there’s the Medlen factor.
Finally, I think you overvalue Greinke. Ironically, I think a lot do, and I think his price would be way too high, as a result.
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
12:17 pm
TNPaul – I don’t think Wren is counting on Beach for 2013, at all.
DiamondbackMac
August 29th, 2012
12:17 pm
Lew
I think Friediech Nietzsche may have spoken for many Braves bloggers long before blogging was born.
“It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!”/
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2012
12:17 pm
We’re going for a perfect season (3-0) today, and I am sure Tommy won’t want to let down one of his fellow Southern Californians (cab, not me)…
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2012
12:19 pm
Not even sure how I would characterize myself regionally – too many choices…
cricket
August 29th, 2012
12:19 pm
Not necessary to have quality starts when you have the back end of a bullpen like the Braves do
yes, a mid-payroll team like braves can’t have all-stars all over the place. they have to build and play to their strengths. with super strong bullpen, they can win with bunch of no. 2.5 / 3s in rotation.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
12:20 pm
but how do we stand in all stats since, oh let’s say, the all star break
But most of that is on the backs of our top starters (Hudson, Minor, Sheets until he got hurt)… Medlen and Maholm continue to add to that. Hanson is a weak link…. a very weak link. It’s one thing to be a #4-5 pitcher, and it’s another to be that while being hit as hard as he has.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
12:20 pm
TP, I’m not always angling to trade players just looking at what would make more sense in my opinion. Given the circumstances of our current starters, Maholm would be odd man out in my opinion if we decided to move someone to make room for someone like Teheran/Delgado/someone from within. The differences between Hanson and Maholm aren’t enough for me to justify moving someone you have undercontrol past next season at a much lower cost than someone that costs more and in results is going to give you about the same level of return.
Lew
August 29th, 2012
12:20 pm
Ten Paul – Absolutley right there – anything Beachy gives us next year is icing on the cake.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
12:21 pm
Maholm at best is a 4th or 5th starter in the majors.
cricket
August 29th, 2012
12:21 pm
(balls likely to go out)
in petco?
Brava
August 29th, 2012
12:22 pm
Well, more so than at night, cricket.
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
12:23 pm
AT – I like Maholm more than Hanson right now. Hanson will likely get every chance, at least through ST next year, to prove that he can still do the job. Right now, I just hope we can get a “quality start” out of him, and that he gives up less than 5 stolen bases per game, (facetious exaggeration, BTW, before someone overreacts).
cricket
August 29th, 2012
12:23 pm
Maholm is not going anywhere
DiamondbackMac
August 29th, 2012
12:25 pm
Lew
I think Friedrich Nietzche may have been speaking for Braves bloggers long before blogging was invented.
“It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!”
Lew
August 29th, 2012
12:25 pm
DBack – Well, likely Neitzsche actually had a reason for his opinions.
Juan
August 29th, 2012
12:25 pm
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/mlb-rumors/19966586/report-cole-hamels-scratched-from-wednesdays-start
I think the Phillis skip Hamel so he can pitch again the Braves on Sunday.
They going to with they best three….Halladay,Lee,Hamel
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
12:26 pm
Dang, that was going to be Vance Worley on Sunday!
DiamondbackMac
August 29th, 2012
12:27 pm
Sorry about the double post, there seems to have been a malfunction.
BF54
August 29th, 2012
12:27 pm
Win one for So-Cal’s sakes Tommy
here is a turtles song for Mcfann now that B is feeling better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=MFlNxDGPlvA
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
12:28 pm
I like Maholm more than Hanson right now.
As do I, he’s currently giving more value to the team.. but like you said right now. I wouldn’t give up on Tommy just yet, he’s only 25 and he’s proven in the past he can be very affective. I’m just not going to fall in love with Maholm over just 5 games and declare him untouchable.
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2012
12:31 pm
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
#dodgers person didnt seem that enthused about oswalt. appears they liked him more before he started pitching (5.94 era)
Shaun
August 29th, 2012
12:33 pm
I’m just not has high on Maholm, I think if you can get a decent return you’ve got to make the move. He’s a FA after next season and your not going to sign him long term so it makes much more sense to move him even over Hanson. — Arkansas Transplant
Why would you think they’d trade the proven veteran who’s having his best season and has an extremely affordable $6.5 million option in 2013? That was one of the main points cited when Braves officials got him, the fact that they didn’t have to give up prospects to get a rental player — they got a guy under contractual control for another season, and a very reasonable contract at that.–DOB
Arkansas Transplant, I think Maholm is a number 4, which is fine. What team is going to give the Braves equal value for a number 4 whose contract is up after next season? I’m guessing Maholm might bring back a prospect or two that have a decent shot at becoming useful major leaguers but are well outside most teams’ top 10. How is that sort of package worth more than what Maholm is likely to provide next season, even if he is around a #4?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
12:33 pm
I’m just not going to fall in love with Maholm over just 5 games and declare him untouchable.
I think he is untouchable (unless of course some deal like Trout for Maholm comes up). We traded Viz for him, and that wouldn’t have happened for 2 rentals (Reed/Maholm)
Jeff R
August 29th, 2012
12:34 pm
I like Maholm. Has no fastball to speak of and has to rely on his smarts to get batters out. He’s a pitcher, not a thrower.
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
12:42 pm
Medlen majors-best 0.50 ERA in August (min. 22 IP). Next-best are 1.08 by Seattle’s Felix Hernandez, 1.42 by St. Louis’ Kyle Lohse, 1.47 by St. Louis’ Adam Wainwright.
I think Medlen (4-0, 0.50 ERA in 5 starts, 35 K w/ 4 BB in 35-2/3 IP) has slight edge for NL pitcher of the month over Wainwright (5-0, 1.47 ERA in 5 starts, 33 K and 5 BB in 36-2/3 IP).
Shaun
August 29th, 2012
12:43 pm
Arkansas Transplant, If the Braves traded Hanson, they’d be selling low, but you never know. Perhaps some team will give up something significant, thinking that Hanson can be a legit #2 or #3. If so, the Braves probably would move him.
The reason they would probably move Hanson over Maholm is because Hanson clearly has more potential (better stuff, younger, has had some solid seasons in the majors), a more team-favorable contract status and therefore would bring back more value in a trade.
Teams trade contracts, not just players. You can’t just evaluate the likelihood of a trade purely based on the players and their talent, potential, etc.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
12:43 pm
How is that sort of package worth more than what Maholm is likely to provide next season, even if he is around a #4?
It’s not really about that, it’s about thinking past next season. Doesn’t Maholm have value to us past next season? Cause if we don’t sign him to an extension he won’t but the 1 or 2 prospects you mentioned would, right? I’m simply stating that if you compare his value against the value of our other options, he simply the odd man out. Am I saying they move him this winter? No. Could they move him? Yes. Could it be more beneficial long term to move him over moving someone else? Most likely.
Currently we’ll have these options… these are in house options I’m talking about…
Hudson, Hanson, Beachy, Medlen, Delgado, Minor, Teheran, Maholm and Possibly Gilmartin and Sheets depending on price and developments for both. Now look at those options, thinking past just next year, who has the higher ceillings and offers the best value… remember think long term… who’s odd man out?
TOBF, I’m not so sure that the Braves really saw Viz as a very viable option as a starter, more of a reliever. But I could be wrong.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
12:45 pm
. Perhaps some team will give up something significant, thinking that Hanson can be a legit #2 or #3
Not happening….
NO MORE FREDI
August 29th, 2012
12:45 pm
If I were Frank Wren…..
Trade Hanson now for a bat to play LF and put Prado at 2B. Have Uggla off the bench. Make it happen and go for it this year before another season of we should’ve and could’ve.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
12:47 pm
Why is there always so much more talk on the blog about the off-season than the current season? This seems to be a constant, whether the Braves win or lose.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
12:48 pm
Trade Hanson now for a bat to play LF and put Prado at 2B. Have Uggla off the bench. Make it happen and go for it this year before another season of we should’ve and could’ve.
You know July 31st has already past, right? You think the team that would claim Hanson on waivers would just so happen to have a major-league outfielder they want to trade, who would also clear waivers?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
12:48 pm
Trade Hanson now for a bat to play LF
Trading him for a bat? Yeah, I can see that…. I’ll take 10 ash bats for McCann. No way is Hanson getting us any decent LF…. not even Gregor Blanco.
Shaun
August 29th, 2012
12:48 pm
I’m just not going to fall in love with Maholm over just 5 games and declare him untouchable.
No one should be untouchable. Heyward, Freeman, Simmons, Medlen, whomever shouldn’t be untouchable. But the problem is how are you going to get equal or better value for those types of cheap, young and productive players? The Braves simply aren’t likely to get back what Maholm is likely to be worth next season.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
12:49 pm
Teams trade contracts, not just players. You can’t just evaluate the likelihood of a trade purely based on the players and their talent, potential, etc.
I’m well aware of that. If he has so much value and potential at a lower cost.. then why would a team with a limited budget and really no need to trade him just decide to trade him? Maybe if you gave examples of who they may try to acquire and so forth it would give more wieght behind where the value truely lies.
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
12:49 pm
I didn’t take it the wrong way. Because I honestly don’t even know what your point is.
Sample size. One start, or six starts doesn’t make Medlen an elite pitcher. Would love to see the kid toss 200 innings before we start saying folks were wrong and such.
Mountain Braves Fan
August 29th, 2012
12:51 pm
LEW-Wren has other needs to fill this winter and he needs to negotiate some longer term deals for several players. He has more than enough to do than to mess around with a strength – and our pitching IS a strength.
Totally agree. The departure of Bourn and the retirement of Chipper will leave two gaping holes in the lineup, and the solution to one of those holes, Prado, is only under team control through 2013. The Braves biggest weakness this season, and likely going forward, is their vulnerability to left handed pitching. Seems to me that is the problem Wren needs to address.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 29th, 2012
12:54 pm
I’m heading home guys, got errands to run…. y’all take care, talk later. Peace.
BF54
August 29th, 2012
12:54 pm
It comes with loving the Braves ‘ “we’ll get em’next year” used to be our lot in life
this year we have a strong team and epic stories
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
12:56 pm
Why is there always so much more talk on the blog about the off-season than the current season? This seems to be a constant, whether the Braves win or lose.
That’s a lot of blogs. Not just this one. Always looking to the future, man.
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
12:59 pm
I’d say Hudson, Maholm, Medlen and Minor were near locks for next years rotation. With the uncertainty of Hanson, Beachy’s injury and growing pains of Teheran and Delgado – just makes sense to keep those four locked in.
brian
August 29th, 2012
12:59 pm
what happened with Carroll’s Duke pitcher Stroman???? Just drafted now already suspended 50 games??
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
1:02 pm
Seems like Delgado is the only pitcher we have for fair value, and he’s not bringing a top tier OF.
The key to next season feels like can we put Juan at 3b for 100 games in a platoon with Prado? Prado starts in LF when Juan is at 3rd and a Reed Johnson or other professional player splits LF with Prado. Assuming we lose Bourn, maybe Heyward ends up in CF? Or leave Heyward in RF and see if Pagan is reasonable.
If we can’t get ~100 games out of Juan at 3b then Prado plays 3b and we need 2 OFs. There are not 2 OFs out there.
Shaun
August 29th, 2012
1:04 pm
Arkansas Transplant, that’s the problem. The Braves still have to play next season and they are likely going to contend next season. So why give up Maholm, a player who is likely to help next season, for an okay prospect or two who might help them down the road?
As far as Maholm being the odd man out, sure, if Teheran and/or Delgado show that they are clearly ready to come to the majors and be something like #3 starters between now and Opening Day of next season, maybe you force the issue and trade Maholm. What are the chances of that? And even if they do show that kind of potential between now and Opening Day, we all know the risks with pitchers? So why give up a pitcher for less-than-ideal value unless it’s obvious that he’s not making your rotation?
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
1:07 pm
Shaun, so your saying Maholm is a #3 starter? I’d argue he’s at best a #4.
brian
August 29th, 2012
1:14 pm
Maholm is not going anywhere.
The A Bomb
August 29th, 2012
1:16 pm
Arguing about who’s #3 and #4 is irrelevant. Minor and Maholm would have to be split in any rotation so it’s useless to argue semantics.
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
1:16 pm
AT – I can’t quite figure you out…always proposing trades, any trades…many of which don’t seem to make much sense. Are you trying to keep things stirred up…you know…like a gambler, you enjoy the action?
Perhaps you should consider persuing a career as a stock or commodities trader. Of course, then you would have to learn to evaluate the true value of an asset.
No offese or malice intended, my friend. Just saying…
Kat
August 29th, 2012
1:19 pm
Breakfast this morning at Mission in SD was great! Highly recommend it of anyone is ever in town.
Kat
August 29th, 2012
1:19 pm
Breakfast this morning at The Mission in SD was great! Highly recommend it of anyone is ever in town.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
1:19 pm
Maholm is not going anywhere.
The funny thing about that statement.. is.. I don’t know that anyone said that he was.
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
1:19 pm
A Bomb – I actually agree with you. Nit picking over whether a guy is a #3 or a #4 is a rediculous argument. Even if not, can a guy move up or down? Is that a #whatever in general, or a #whatever to us, and our existing rotation? Give me a break.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
1:24 pm
raleighbravefan, honestly.. I never proposed a trade of either Maholm, Minor or Hanson. I was simply stating, in my opinion, out of all of the options we currently have available and the talent level of each, along with projections of next season and past, that Maholm would be of less value to me. Otherwise, the first to be moved.. if anyone was to be moved.
Side note… If there was an option or opportunity to acquire someone like a Myers in a trade that involved Hanson.. then by all means.. do the trade.
Shaun
August 29th, 2012
1:24 pm
I’m well aware of that. If he has so much value and potential at a lower cost.. then why would a team with a limited budget and really no need to trade him just decide to trade him? Maybe if you gave examples of who they may try to acquire and so forth it would give more wieght behind where the value truely lies.
Arkansas Transplant, I’m assuming you are referring to Hanson here. I think the Braves may explore a Hanson trade because there is at least some chance that they can fill a need by trading him. They put Hanson in the right package and perhaps he brings back a starting centerfielder or leftfielder. It’s not a sure think but such a scenario is more likely to happen with Hanson and is less likely to happen with Maholm, given Maholm’s contract situation, age and talent.
count_schemula, seems like Heyward could handle centerfield adequately but he wouldn’t add as much defensive value there. He’s elite in right, so I don’t think they want to lose that kind of defensive value.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
1:30 pm
Does Maholm provide 6 million dollars more a value over, Degado? Minor? Gilmartin? Teheran? How about 3 or 4 more million over Hanson?
brian
August 29th, 2012
1:32 pm
Maholm is a very solid #4-#5. If he has truly figured something out he could be a 3.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
1:32 pm
Shaun, sometimes it’s not about WAR. We may not have a CF next year. At all. I love Prado, but, even he’s not going to be able to pull off CF. Say we do something terrible, like sign Nick Swisher…
MikeInFl
August 29th, 2012
1:40 pm
Maholm is a 3.7834, maybe a 3.7825. If he continues to work hard, he could become a 3.174.
BF54
August 29th, 2012
1:41 pm
I concur M I FLA
Kat
August 29th, 2012
1:41 pm
Sorry for the double post – browser was crashing on my phone.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
1:41 pm
“The Yankees got power-hitting 1B and outfielder Nick Swisher from the Chicago White Sox for utility infielder Wilson Betemit.” Did not know this. That was a good trade by the Yankees.
The Braves traded Betemit for… Danys Baez and infielder Willy Aybar.
BF54
August 29th, 2012
1:43 pm
Nice cool day in New England
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
1:44 pm
Shaun, explain this to me. How is one year of Maholm at 6.5 mil more valuable to the club than..
Hanson with 4 more years of control, very manage salary, higher ceiling
Delgado with 6 more years of control, very manage salary, higher ceiling
Medlen with 4 more years of control at very manage salary, higher ceiling
Teheran with 6 more years of control at very manage salary, higher ceiling
Beachy with 5 more years of control at very manage salary, higher ceiling
And all of these will either give you very similiar results to Maholm and possibly even better results.
BF54
August 29th, 2012
1:44 pm
prayers to my friends on the gulf coast
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
1:50 pm
I think we can agree that Hudson, Minor and Medlen are probably locks for next season. That leaves just 2 spots to fill, one of which Beachy will feel once he returns. So, basically you’ve got to make a decision between Delgado, Maholm, Hanson and Teheran over filling those last 2 spots.
Kat
August 29th, 2012
1:54 pm
At yesterday’s game I sat next to a guy who played against Chipper in the minors and did a stint at Seattle in the majors for a bit. At first he only said that he was friends with ‘the 3rd basemen’ while Chase was on the field so it sounded like he meant him but didn’t give a name to which 3rd baseman. However his Bow Hunting hat kinda gave it away that it was Chipper. So I asked if it was Chip and he said yes. Didn’t catch the guy’s name, but Chippers agent got them the tickets. Interesting to know that even they have to use Stub Hub. I only know this because the tickets we bought were a set of 2 or 4, we bought 2 and his agent must have bought the other two. The guys were very nice and chatted a lot. He mentioned how Chipper talked to him about the surf board yesterday and what do do with it and how he’s headed down to Atlanta to see his last games there.
Now off to the airport… only the Sept 9th (last Mets game) and Oct 3rd (last reg season game) left for me this season. Unless we go into the post season and I decide to take a trip…
BFChris27
August 29th, 2012
1:58 pm
Just got some winds and rain from Isaac here. Glad it wasn’t as bad is it might have been. I send my prayers to those directly affected by it.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
1:59 pm
We could quite possibly enter the off season thinking that we don’t have any everyday spots to fill. I could end up extending Bourn and they may feel that Juan could take 3rd. We’ve also got the option of Janish at 3rd, not saying it will happen but not saying it won’t either. So it’s quite possible we won’t be trading out of necessity.
ACE
August 29th, 2012
2:02 pm
Meds to the rescue
ACE
August 29th, 2012
2:02 pm
Meds to the rescue
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
2:04 pm
Janish at 3rd is not an option. He’s not even Plácido Polanco levels with the stick. I think we do have to lean on Juan some, at least against RH. With Prado in LF for the most part part, we’d just need a RH platoon mate for him and a CF. Heyward in RF is preferable, but in “Lou” of that, a RF with Hayward in CF. Even leaning on Juan we are going to need 1 1/2 outfielders.
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
2:04 pm
How is one year of Maholm at 6.5 mil more valuable to the club than..
Hanson with 4 more years of control, very manage salary, higher ceiling
This year: Maholm averages 6.1 IP/GS. Hanson averages 5.2 IP/GS.
With what I’m seeing out of Hanson this year and the last half of last year, I think Maholm has better value to the team on the team next year than Hanson does. Actually, Hanson hasn’t averaged 6 or more IP/GS since his rookie season. It just keeps going down for him. Over the last three years Maholm has averaged 6 IP/GS and he keep improving. And he too is pretty cheap. No reason to trade this guy.
tony austin
August 29th, 2012
2:04 pm
So, basically you’ve got to make a decision between Delgado, Maholm, Hanson and Teheran – Arkansas Transplant
Of those four I’ll take Maholm any day of the week.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
2:05 pm
We’ve also got the option of Janish at 3rd,
LOL…now I think you’re just messin’ with us.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
2:05 pm
We have a RH platoon mate.. we could extend Reed Johnson. He can play any outfield position.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
2:08 pm
* RH platoon mate for Prado because he would presumably be at 3b against LH pitching.
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
2:11 pm
That leaves just 2 spots to fill, one of which Beachy will feel once he returns. So, basically you’ve got to make a decision between Delgado, Maholm, Hanson and Teheran over filling those last 2 spots
If Wren is smart, this phrase “one of which Beachy will feel,” makes no sense and even if implemented with popper grammar is a terrible way to plan for the GM. It is such a terrible, terrible idea of a plan, that well, it could only be matched in incompetence by trading a 30HR hitting right handed hitter and a $6.5M left handed starter who averages 6+IP a start and 3.50 ERA.
DAP
August 29th, 2012
2:11 pm
count schemula “The Yankees got power-hitting 1B and outfielder Nick Swisher from the Chicago White Sox for utility infielder Wilson Betemit.” Did not know this. That was a good trade by the Yankees.
same offseason the braves got javier vazquez. i was so ticked we didnt snag swisher as well, especially when i saw the yanks got him for. we would have made the playoffs in ‘09 with swish in RF, or playing 1st.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
2:12 pm
I agree on Reed Johnson. He’s professional enough to make us forget all about Diaz and Hinske. So, now we just need a Pagan or some RF. Assuming BJ Upton is verboten.
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
2:12 pm
…and also playing Janish at 3B every day.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
2:19 pm
trading a 30HR hitting right handed hitter
Do we have one of these to trade?
It is such a terrible, terrible idea of a plan
Yeah, how dare they decide that Delgado, Teheran and Hanson offer more upside, not just next season but going forward than Maholm. I guess there’s absolutely no way those 3 could provide equal to greater value. Really? Mahlom is a true ace no doubt.. untouchable.
Bat Masterson
August 29th, 2012
2:20 pm
Hello
Hmmmm
August 29th, 2012
2:22 pm
AJC tech guys need to fix the Twitter feed! How am I suppose to get my daily dose of AJC Sports tweets in one convenient place if I can’t even see it???
I like the old lay better ……..
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
2:22 pm
Janish does not play 3b every day. Not a chance. Juan is far from perfect, and it’s inexcusable for him to have loafed off half the season with a starting 3b job up for grabs, but, he has what, 9HR in 167ABs? And he’s a terrible pinch hitter. Give Juan 400ABs as a starter and Uggla will be batting 8th for a long time.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
2:24 pm
just follow Twitter directly in your twitter client, or http://twitter.com/ajcbraves
Jimmy
August 29th, 2012
2:26 pm
Just registered. When the new blog appears, I’m Jimmy63.
Hey Bat. Thunderstorms again?
6:30 game so should be a freash blog soon.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
2:29 pm
So you think it’s far fetched and wouldn’t ever happen that Janish could spell Juan at 3rd?
Shaun
August 29th, 2012
2:29 pm
Shaun, sometimes it’s not about WAR. We may not have a CF next year. At all. I love Prado, but, even he’s not going to be able to pull off CF. Say we do something terrible, like sign Nick Swisher…
count_schemula, who said anything about WAR?
Let’s try this again, and try to focus instead of finding a hidden WAR reference that isn’t there. Heyward likely wouldn’t add as much value, because of defense, in center. He adds a ton of value in right, defensively.
The Braves won’t go in to next season without a true centerfielder. I will just about guarantee it.
Shaun, explain this to me. How is one year of Maholm at 6.5 mil more valuable to the club than..
Arkansas Transplant, who said one year of Maholm at $6.5M is more valuable to the Braves than those things you listed?
The argument is that one year of Maholm at $6.5M is more valuable than anything the Braves could get for Maholm in a trade, so he seems less likely to be traded that some other players or pitchers.
Bat Masterson
August 29th, 2012
2:29 pm
Hey, Jimmy
We had some heavy rain last night. It was over my this morning.
I was catching up on the blog and saw what CraZy said about registering.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
2:30 pm
So you think it’s far fetched and wouldn’t ever happen that Janish could spell Juan at 3rd?
Like once per month? Janish becoming a regular or semi-regular at 3B is less likely than Phil Niekro coming out of retirement to lead the Braves to the postseason.
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
2:31 pm
Do we have one of these to trade?
According to your assessment and definition of project, yes. You stated as much.
Yeah, how dare they decide that Delgado, Teheran and Hanson offer more upside, not just next season but going forward than Maholm.
The terrible, terrible, idea of a plan, is banking on Beachy next year. That’s a horrid plan and I’ll greatly disappointed in Wren if that is his plan.
And, like I said, if that is his plan, it could only be matched in incompetence by trading your a fore mentioned 30HR hitting player, or planning for Janish to be the starting 3B, or trading Paul Maholm.
Shaun
August 29th, 2012
2:33 pm
We have a RH platoon mate.. we could extend Reed Johnson. He can play any outfield position.
I wouldn’t mind Reed Johnson in a leftfield platoon and as a back-up at other positions. He should not be an everyday centerfielder.
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
2:33 pm
**definition of projections
Sopheee
August 29th, 2012
2:33 pm
Guess the eee’s will be around all year now since Soph is apparently taken.
CrαZy
August 29th, 2012
2:34 pm
http://www.ajc.com/gallery/sports/football/falcons-keys-2012-season/g3jQ/#2467637
Here’s a falcons blog with the new format…. ??
Animus
August 29th, 2012
2:36 pm
Looks like FF gets the day off today – Prado at 1st.
Jimmy
August 29th, 2012
2:36 pm
Bat – We’ve got Tstorms rolling in from the gulf this afternoon. Very muggy.
I saw what CraZy said too. That’s why I went ahead and did it. I guess the next blog posted will require it. I don’t know for sure.
It asked you for your birthday and only goes back to 1902. So nolie and Lew are SOL.
Animus
August 29th, 2012
2:37 pm
So, six RH batters today – let’s see if it helps against the LH pitcher, (Ross is catching)
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
2:38 pm
Well-deserved day off for Freeman.
Shaun
August 29th, 2012
2:39 pm
So, basically you’ve got to make a decision between Delgado, Maholm, Hanson and Teheran – Arkansas Transplant
The decision could be to let Delgado and Teheran pitch in the minors until or unless they need them. Why force a trade if you don’t have to and you aren’t going to get good value for your team?
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
2:40 pm
Last game Freeman didn’t start was June 18th!
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
2:41 pm
“as far as moving Uggla … Some teams would like to have a 30 homer type player in their lineup and would welcome the fact that he’s locked in over the next 3 years. ”
–Arkansas Transplant
[To peg potential] I think it would be fair to look at career numbers.
–Arkansas Transplant
Jimmy
August 29th, 2012
2:43 pm
CraZy – it has an edit function too. Others I’ve been on allow you to edit your post for 5 minutes, then it’s locked.
I don’t know, we’ll see.
Less than 4 hours until game time.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
2:43 pm
In the last week, Martin Prado has been in the lineup every day, and started at four different positions.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
2:44 pm
So your projections are that Maholm has more value than say Delgado, Teheran, and Hanson? And you base this on? Just because someone makes more money doesn’t necessarily mean they are better than any option making less.. ie.. Maholm, Uggla.
What is it about Maholm that you see gives him such great value that the Braves would be wise to hang onto him? Specially given the fact he’s been nothing more than a 5th starter for most of his career. Just wondering why you see him so untouchable.
Bat Masterson
August 29th, 2012
2:44 pm
It asked you for your birthday and only goes back to 1902. So nolie and Lew are SOL. Jimmy
Jimmy_
Me, too, but I lied. It’s muggy here and clouding up again.
CrαZy
August 29th, 2012
2:46 pm
If anyone posts in the new format as Crazy it’s not me. I tried to register as CrαZy but it wouldn’t allow the α so it went through as CrZy. I tried to change it to CraZy, but it said that name was already taken. So for now I’m (akaCraZy)
nolie
August 29th, 2012
2:47 pm
02? yeah I am screwed, CB too.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 29th, 2012
2:47 pm
Ross playing (again) the day before a day-off…boo!…
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
2:49 pm
“Here’s a falcons blog with the new format…. ??”
The report abuse feature looks like it got hit with the Six Sigma stick. In a good way.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 29th, 2012
2:49 pm
What the crud happened to the AJC website??…
Shaun
August 29th, 2012
2:49 pm
Yeah, how dare they decide that Delgado, Teheran and Hanson offer more upside, not just next season but going forward than Maholm. I guess there’s absolutely no way those 3 could provide equal to greater value.
What does this have to do with whether they should trade Maholm, whether they’re likely to get good value for Maholm in a trade?
It seems your argument presupposes that Delgado and Teheran have to pitch in the majors, in the rotation, next season.
It also ignores the possibility that the value Hanson offers could be in the form of a trade for a need and could be favorable to the Braves, although I would say that’s far from a sure thing, given the way Hanson has pitched this year and the injury concerns. But it’s a possibility nonetheless.
It’s not as simple as trading the guy that offers the least future value and potential. For one, the don’t have to trade any of these guys. Second, it’s a mistake to trade a guy just to get rid of him when you don’t need to.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
2:49 pm
trading a 30HR hitting right handed hitter and a $6.5M left handed starter who averages 6+IP a start and 3.50 ERA.
Oh, I didn’t see where you were talking projections in the statement. Sounded more like your talking absolutes here, since Maholm is more like a 4.25 ERA, 6+IP.
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
2:51 pm
Phillies shut down Vance Worley for the season. Most likely means we’ll face Halladay, Lee and Hamels this weekend now. That stinks.
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
2:52 pm
Atlanta Braves @Braves
Today’s lineup at SD (6:35, SPSO/680AM/BRN): Bourn 8 Johnson 7 Heyward 9 Jones 5 Prado 3 Ross 2 Uggla 4 Janish 6 Hanson 1
nolie
August 29th, 2012
2:52 pm
since Maholm is more like a 4.25 ERA, 6+IP…AT
not any more….
BF54
August 29th, 2012
2:53 pm
that deserves to be booed
DAM
August 29th, 2012
2:53 pm
AT, I don’t understand your argument. We have the following SPs under team control for multiple years: Minor, Medlen, Delgado, Teheran, Beachy, Hanson. Ignoring the fact that we have Hudson and Maholm almost certainly returning next season, someone in that group of 6 would have to be the odd man out eventually, anyway. I don’t think it really matters whether Hanson has more long-term value in our rotation than Maholm (which I think Maholm will be more valuable, for the record). Eventually, one of those 6 will be left out. I’d probably prefer to trade Hanson and hang onto the rest. So, if a team would potentially give up more for multiple years of Hanson, why not do it?
brian
August 29th, 2012
2:54 pm
nobody said that Maholm is an ace and there are probably only a few Braves that are truly untouchable. Maholm is a 4/5 starter, possibly a 3, and a lefty who is under a very reasonable contract for next year. We should have learned this year that you can never have too much pitching depth
nolie
August 29th, 2012
2:54 pm
Big Red running tonight huh? Too bad ours is not Man O’ War or Secretariat
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
2:54 pm
Shaun, how about you show me where I stated specifically that they should trade Maholm.. ready, if your going to accuse me of it, then show me the specific statement I said. I said and have continued to say…..IF they were to move a starter, he would make more sense.
So get off your self rightousness with statements like this…
It’s not as simple as trading the guy that offers the least future value and potential. For one, the don’t have to trade any of these guys. Second, it’s a mistake to trade a guy just to get rid of him when you don’t need to.
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
2:54 pm
Braves lineup: Bourn CF, Johnson LF, Heyward, Chipper 3B, Prado 1B, Ross C, Uggla 2B, Janish SS, Hanson P
5th different position that Prado has started at on this trip.
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
2:55 pm
Last 9 Starts of the Starting 9
_________AVG__OBP__SLG___OPS_wOBA_L9S9+
Bourn__ .176 .317 .235 0.552 .273 ___68
Reed___ .265 .324 .353 0.677 .306 __102
Heyward .333 .366 .718 1.084 .447 __212
Chipper .278 .350 .583 0.933 .398 __171
Prado__ .263 .317 .342 0.659 .342 ___96
Ross___ .235 .308 .382 0.690 .326 __104
Uggla__ .138 .306 .276 0.581 .279 ___75
Janish_ .121 .171 .212 0.384 .173 ___13
Hanson_ .000 .063 .000 0.063 .036 __-79
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
2:55 pm
I hate LH soft tossers, but I would be very surprised if Maholm was traded and not on this roster in 2013.
Shaun
August 29th, 2012
2:56 pm
So your projections are that Maholm has more value than say Delgado, Teheran, and Hanson? And you base this on?
Did anyone say that Maholm has more value than say Delgado, Teheran and Hanson?
Actually I would say Maholm clearly has less trade value, which is one of the reasons you wouldn’t want to trade him.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
2:56 pm
5th different position that Prado has started at on this trip.
Yes! Don’t know why I said four positions in my earlier post. 5 positions started in the last 7 days.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
2:56 pm
176,235,138,121 how ya gonna win wid numbers like dat?
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
2:57 pm
not any more….
He’s sort of a different pitcher now, right? Lots of cutters, as oppose to fastball/changeup. At least that’s the big difference I’ve seen.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
2:57 pm
I swear…the Braves could be in the middle of a wild card play-in game, and everyone would still want to talk about who’s being traded and who’s in the lineup in 2013. I don’t get it. Plenty of time for that after the last pitch is thrown.
brian
August 29th, 2012
2:57 pm
didn’t see that lineup coming. Sure though Uggla may sit for Reed Johnson with Prado at 2B. I guess Freddie could use the rest
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
2:57 pm
Maholm is a 4/5 starter
Yes, and we don’t have plenty of these already?
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
2:58 pm
So your projections are that Maholm has more value than say Delgado, Teheran, and Hanson?
Actually, AT, I think you are the only one suggesting that the scenario demands moving Maholm or moving one or all of the other pitchers.
I’d let Hanson, Teheran and Delgado compete for the final spot in a rotation of Hudson, Medlen, Maholm, Minor. Or let Medlen, Teheran and Delgado compete for a final spot in a rotation of Hudson, Hanson, Minor and Maholm. The non-winners of the competition can be placed in the minors or the bullpen. As I fully believe that no matter who is in the rotation, pitching depth will be needed next year.
brian
August 29th, 2012
2:59 pm
SHaun – I agree that Teheran and Delgado have much more trade value than Maholm, especially in the offseason. If the Braves were to trade Maholm (which I don’t think they have any inclination to do so), they would get max value at the trade deadline when clubs need an experienced starter
Sopheee
August 29th, 2012
2:59 pm
That’s our Pardo.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
2:59 pm
no way is Maholm a #5 starter
DAM
August 29th, 2012
3:01 pm
Is the blog moving to a format where you are required to register to post? Did I miss this somewhere along the line? Sorry if this has come up before. I’ve spent the last week working for my company issuing forecasts on Isaac.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
3:01 pm
97 career ERA + is just under average which pretty much makes him a #3 over career and at least a high 3 over the last 3 seasons
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
3:02 pm
Rizzo and Davey are fighting. Looks like they really will shut down Stras. Good chance they still win the East.
LA and SF is a battle. If LA can find any pitching (Billingsley probably out, Beckett is… Beckett. I see Bedard in their future.) It looks like we are really fighting LA, SF, StL and or a fading Pittsburgh for the WC.
Oh that’s just boring. I say we trade Maholm for Granderson. And trade Hanson for Mauer, stick Mauer in LF, move Kimbrel to the 3b and make Prado the new closer.
Hillbilly
August 29th, 2012
3:02 pm
I swear…the Braves could be in the middle of a wild card play-in game, and everyone would still want to talk about who’s being traded and who’s in the lineup in 2013. I don’t get it.
The grass is always greener elsewhere to some here. It’s pretty astounding to me too, Brian.
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
3:02 pm
IF they were to move a starter, he would make more sense.
If the reason for moving a starter is making room in a rotation. But I don’t see them trading starters just to make room. IF they were to move a starter it would be to acquire a player who can help the team at another position, say CF or LF or 3B… and getting a guy to fill one of those spots by way of trade is going to take more than Paul Maholm, but not much more than one of Hanson, Delgado or Teheran.
brian
August 29th, 2012
3:02 pm
Maholm has been a 4/5 starter who is working his way to a 3
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
3:02 pm
Braves did 2.37 million last year in attendance through 79 home games and an average of 30,037. Good for 15th among all MLB teams.
This year, we’re at 1,893,433 through 65 home games, an average of 29,129 – good for 16th in the majors.
I’d expect us to increase those averages as we get closer to Chipper’s last home games. 9 of the 17 home games left are on the weekend. We’ll need to average 29,630 to reach 2.4 million in attendance.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
3:03 pm
scenario demands moving Maholm
I’d like to see that post of mine.. demands? I think this could be a spin.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
3:03 pm
I have not seen anything that says so DAM, folks are speculating about the sign in box on the home page I guess.
Did I miss something specific guys?
BF54
August 29th, 2012
3:03 pm
Looking forward to watching the Maholum era unfold
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
3:03 pm
Is the blog moving to a format where you are required to register to post? Did I miss this somewhere along the line?
I have seen people allude to this all day, but I have found no where yet which states as much on this site, or which requires me to log in… At any rate, I secured my name in the registry just in case.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
3:04 pm
Maholm has been a 4/5 starter who is working his way to a 3..brian
NWIH
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
3:04 pm
I swear…the Braves could be in the middle of a wild card play-in game, and everyone would still want to talk about who’s being traded and who’s in the lineup in 2013. I don’t get it. Plenty of time for that after the last pitch is thrown.
Are you really surprised by this? It’s really not uncommon in sports. Fans are always looking into the future, especially in Baseball.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
3:04 pm
New blogs will likely require registering. This one is left over from yesterday. Decent chance DOBs next blog requires registration.
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
3:05 pm
I don’t even know where people are talking about “registering”. The front Braves page looks a little different, but I haven’t had to do anything different today to post or read the blog.
Shaun
August 29th, 2012
3:05 pm
IF they were to move a starter, [Maholm] would make more sense.
AT, I understand your argument. I just disagree that it is likely true. If they trade Maholm in this coming offseason, I don’t think they are likely to get much because he’s merely solid, he isn’t that young and he only has one year left on his contract. If they trade someone else, they are likely to get something more useful in return because most of their other pitchers are fairly young and their contracts are more team-favorable. Unless they really don’t think they can win next year, they probably shouldn’t trade Maholm because he’s going to help them next year and what they get for him probably wouldn’t help them any more than Maholm himself.
CB
August 29th, 2012
3:05 pm
It wouldn’t let me use just CB. I am now CB- Blind Squirrel.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
3:05 pm
why is everybody assuming that count?
brian
August 29th, 2012
3:05 pm
any word on whether the Braves have offered or are considering offering Reed Johnson a contract for the next 1-2 years?
Brian from SC
August 29th, 2012
3:07 pm
Are you really surprised by this? It’s really not uncommon in sports. Fans are always looking into the future, especially in Baseball.
If you say so…I don’t really follow any other sports/team blogs like this.
I just wish there was more discussion about last night’s game, and today’s game, and how players are performing right now, etc. Much more relevant to me.
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
3:07 pm
Maholm has been a 4/5 starter who is working his way to a 3..
What’s the league average ERA? And, if you have a league average ERA for your career, does that mean you’re a #3 starter? I hope not, to be honest. I know….#3 = middle = average, but for some friggin reason I just don’t look at it that way.
DAM
August 29th, 2012
3:07 pm
Well, I prefer not to register just because … so if they switch to the new format, there’s a good chance I’ll be gone. If so, it’s been good chatting with all of you off and on for the last few years.
TennesseePaul
August 29th, 2012
3:07 pm
demands? I think this could be a spin.
Demands, framing in an emphatic way through persistent posts suggesting it is an either or case…
The more recent post framing your opinion as a hypothetical based on some need to trade a pitcher … I’d still disagree that moving Maholm is going to happen, or is a good idea. I don’t see any reason to trade him. He will not return enough in a trade to make it worth while.
count_schemula
August 29th, 2012
3:08 pm
To register, go to the home page, look at the upper right. blogs.ajc.com is either an old server or will be moved to the new format. We already see lot’s of stalls and time outs today and a new Falcons blog showed up with the new format in place, though it was not on a blogs subdomain.
It’s coming, might as well get your name now and be ready. My money is that the next “focal” blog will require the login.
Shaun
August 29th, 2012
3:09 pm
nolie, I’d say Maholm is a #4. But I could understand someone viewing him as a #3.
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
3:10 pm
I just wish there was more discussion about last night’s game, and today’s game, and how players are performing right now, etc. Much more relevant to me.
You can only analyze that stuff so much. Winter is the best time on this blog, imo. Really good conversation and I think most of the regulars would agree with that.
BF54
August 29th, 2012
3:10 pm
I was prodded to register,but somehow as of yet, have circumvented: said action
CB
August 29th, 2012
3:11 pm
Efrim, I agree winter blogs are better. Less craziness.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
3:12 pm
I secured my name in the registry just in case.
what registry are you talking about.. haven’t seen as much.
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
3:14 pm
November and December, CB. Great stuff from everyone involved. Maybe I just like the Winter Meetings and the offseason overall, but that’s my favorite time of year on here. I think the MLB offseason is the best among all sports – fans of baseball like talking about the future more than any other sport, even football, in my opinion.
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
3:16 pm
It’s hard for me to call a guy with a career 4.25 ERA, 5.65 K/9 and an average fastball velo of 87-88mph a career #3 starter…..
………but, he certainly looks like that is what he is at this moment.
nolie
August 29th, 2012
3:17 pm
that place is really pyssing me off. There is always one word that I can not decipher.
brian
August 29th, 2012
3:17 pm
agree Shaun- I view him as a 4.
Next year, unless we trade for or sign a #1 starter we will have Medlen, Hudson, Minor, Hanson/Teheran/Delgado, and Maholm.
Good balance. I would like Teheran or Delgado to step up in preseason and take that spot. It would be nice to have a hard thrower between Minor and Maholm
nolie
August 29th, 2012
3:17 pm
97 ERA+ = #3
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2012
3:17 pm
NEW BLOGGAGE
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/08/29/suffice-to-say-medlen-has-secured-his-spot-in-braves-rotation/
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
3:19 pm
Efrim, what surprises me most about his starters? How good the defense plays. He’s such a slow worker, which usually isn’t very defense friendly.
CB
August 29th, 2012
3:19 pm
nolie, get some new glasses. No, it took me 3-4 times before I could read it. Old eyes, I guess.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
3:19 pm
starters = starts
Efrim
August 29th, 2012
3:20 pm
Arizona Fall League rosters have been announced and the Braves will be playing for the Phoenix Desert Dogs this year. Here are the prospects we’re sending:
RHP Cory Rasmus
RHP Gus Schlosser
RHP Zeke Spruill
C Mathew Kennelly
SS Nick Ahmed
3B Edward Salcedo
keyLargo
August 29th, 2012
3:22 pm
Bat – Hope you’re just getting some rain up there. I can’t judge what you’re getting but as far as the FL Keys go, this is right up there with the most over hyped hurricane ever.
I haven’t seen Murph today but I bet he took the day off from work just in case he got drop or two from an outer, extra outer band over in TX.
raleighbravefan
August 29th, 2012
3:28 pm
Efrim – It’s well known that you hate soft tossers, especially, so it seems, if they are LH.
I hate pitchers who don’t do their jobs. I like pitchers who do their jobs. Maholm is currently doning his job for us. Is he a #4…#5…? Could he be #3? What’s his “ceiling”? I don’t care. I do care that he is currently doing the job for the Atlanta Braves. And I don’t believ you have to throw 95mph top do so.
Arkansas Transplant
August 29th, 2012
3:57 pm
hate soft tossers
It’s likely to get worse given his fastball has been on the decline the past few years.
ACE
August 29th, 2012
4:51 pm
Prado may pitch today too.