2:01 pm August 24, 2012, by David O'Brien
Brian from SC
August 24th, 20125:05 pm
The Red Sox will drop Beckett on the Dodgers, right? Why wouldn’t they?
Quiick poll from now till the end of the season who would you rather have Frency or Uggla. Frency in Left and Prado at second.
Kinda fun watching the Braves these days. Also very frustrating. If I had to guess I think the Braves will get the #2 wild card spot beating out Pittsburgh and will face the Dodgers in a win or go home game. The Nats will cruise to the title and save Strasburg during Sept so he is ready to go in October.
Also I think that if the Braves do miss out that Fredi will be fired. Really no excuses with the team we have to miss out on a double wild card chance. Couple that with blowing the 2011 season and I see no chance Fredi survives. Also keep in mind that the Braves have the easiest finishing schedule in the NL. If Frank Wren survives that would also be a head scratcher, since the GM that’s always building for the future will be 1 for 7 in putting a playoff team on the field. Not so sure building for the future insures success. Again, I see the Braves squeaking in and then giving the ball to Hudson to beat LA in Atlanta.
If Hanson was mad about having to do a rehab assignment, I wonder how mad he will be when he is left off the post season roster? That’s a given in my book. Also a given that Medlen has now solidified the #2 role behind Hudson. Congrats to the man.
Rock on…..WAR – what is it good for….absolutely nothing.
August 24th, 20125:06 pm
PDOG…Uggla is so far and away a better player than Francoeur…your question is ludicrous.
No he doesn’t. His little fairy tale book looks like it’s shutting. I like him, but I had a feeling he’d wear down.
Especially considering that he hadn’t pitched in the bigs in almost 2 years… there would be a question of how much he had in the tank.
seems like doomsday here. THe Braves need a win but there is no collapse yet. This is a hard stretch. For what it is worth Jayson Stark does not forsee a collapse and thinks the Braves are wildcard bound
August 24th, 20125:07 pm
Claiming someone off waivers does not mean that team will get them. Especially with Beckett, who is a 10-5 guy (if the Red Sox don’t just let him go, which I would do if I were them)
August 24th, 20125:08 pm
Frankly, I don’t want Francouer or Uggla.
Beckett, as a 10-5 would even have to approve a waiver transfer. I would think he would, to get out of a place he doesn’t seem to like much, and pitch for a contender. If Beckett is not a Dodgers as a result of this, I would be flabbergasted.
August 24th, 20125:09 pm
so the Red Sox are placing players on waivers to gauge interest…..wonder if they put Lester on waivers???
Just to confirm, now that the Dodgers have claimed him, they can’t unclaim him, right? Boston can just let him go and the Dodgers would be stuck with him, correct?
I see no reason why Boston wouldn’t just let him go.
August 24th, 20125:10 pm
brian, teams put just about all of their players on waivers this time of year. There’s no reason not to. 99.8% of the time, nothing happens. The Braves may have placed all of their players on waivers. In the Braves’ case, t’s not important enough for anyone to care enough to report about it.
August 24th, 20125:11 pm
the Dodgers can have Beckett. If they get AGON as well they will have one of the most potent lineups in the league – Kemp, AGon, Hanley, Ethier
As far as I know, Efrim. This is a golden opportunity for the Red Sox.
It’s good to have the Dodgers’ money. They can afford to go willy nilly on the waiver wire.
The Dodgers have some series cash flow. No telling what they will do this winter. Holes at 1B and LF, and Yasel Puig won’t be ready for 2013, I’d think.
There’s a tendency for Braves’ fans to see Hanson in the light of what he hasn’t become, rather than what he is….scoots
August 24th, 20125:12 pm
Earlier today I said no way Gonzalez goes anywhere. But the Dodgers seem to be just aggressive enough to pay his whole salary and give the Red Sox the players they want. Stay tuned.
Man, remember Toronto just letting the White Sox take on Alex Rios’ contract? They gave his money to Bautista, practically.
August 24th, 20125:13 pm
Gotta win tonight because the next two are on BIG BAD SCARY NATIONAL TELEVISION!
I know it’s early, but: how many days to spring training???? juuuuuuuuuuust kidding… well, not really…
Someone please buy the Braves!!! It must be nice to put out waiver claims like the Dodgers have.
August 24th, 20125:14 pm
Honestly, I like Zach Lee and Allen Webster, but I don’t think I’d trade Adrian for them. The free agent market isn’t strong and they would lose a big time power hitter, despite him not having a great 1st half, he’s still a really, really good player. The goal still has to be to win there.
August 24th, 20125:15 pm
Hanson probably should go ahead and get shoulder surgery done before it is too late. He has lost almost 10 MPH on his fastball in last 3 yrs.
at 87-88 MPH heater you won’t be too succesful.
Today is a do or die starts for Sheets. After this start we will know if he is capable of being the number 5 man.
Otherwise come September Braves are better of using a 4 men rotation and maybe giving Delgado a spot start here an there
I still think Dayton Moore and the Royals make a ton of sense this offseason. We’ll see…..
August 24th, 20125:16 pm
I know SC – I remember when the big stink came out the first year Andruw was put on waivers. I would like to see the Braves put a claim in on Lester and see what happens
ANYONE AND I MEAN ANYONE, who thinks that right now, as we currently stand, leaving Uggla in over moving Prado to 2B and platooning whomever the care to platoon in LF is an idiot! cough cough, Shaun, cough cough, ncscoots, cough cough. But I forget, you guys are the “smart ones”, but Shaun don’t let the fact that I played college baseball for pretty good program, or the fact that the OVERWHELMING majority of Braves fans at this point agree with me bother you in the slightest, you just continue on pouring over your precious little numbers in some dark basement somewhere while the rest of us sit out in the good ol’ sunshine and actually watch and ENJOY the game instead of breaking it down into some anal-retentive nightmare of numbers!
I still think Dayton Moore and the Royals make a ton of sense this offseason. We’ll see….
Maybe…. trade one injured player for another. Hanson for Cain.
agree Efrim – he would be a solid addition to their staff. Be nice to get Cain for Hanson
August 24th, 20125:17 pm
brian, a lot of other teams besides the Braves would put a claim on waivers. Since the claim is awarded to the team with the worst record that puts the claim in, the Braves wouldn’t stand a chance.
Can the entire Braves organization be put on waivers? Perhaps someone with enough money will pick them up ….
That last post should say a lot of other teams would put a claim on Lester.
There is no worse thing for a pitcher to have done then to have shoulder surgery. That is basically a career ender and very few have come back to full strength. Most all are never the same pitchers. That “wear and tear” Hanson has just needs to be worked through and another full offseason of shoulder exercises could help.
Long time Braves fan in San Francsico
August 24th, 20125:18 pm
If we dont put for a better effort the next two days…I’m not going to Sunday night’s ESPN game. I have a good deal on seats right behind home plate…..however, the way we’re swinging the bats, running the bases and playing defense….I’d rather stay home and watch it for free.
This has nothing to do with being cheap or disloyal. I feel that a team has to show that they deserve financial support (yes, the Braves do get a % of the visiting gate when they play in San Francisco)….which we havent, given our pathetic effort the past 6 games.
I have a bad feeling that Sheets is going to get rocked tonight.
August 24th, 20125:20 pm
If you’re going to watch the Braves to reward them for good play, or not going to punish them for bad play, then you’re not going for the right reason.
Go to the game…it’s baseball. Have fun.
August 24th, 20125:21 pm
Also seems to be a reasonable possibility that Adrian Gonzalez will be traded to Dodgers after they claimed him.
August 24th, 20125:26 pm
agree namesake from SC – it would not surprise me if they did put Lester on waivers, see what they could get, and trade him in the offseason. Looks like Boston is going into rebuilding mode
August 24th, 20125:28 pm
Need to shake up the lineup card today to get something going
August 24th, 20125:29 pm
Wonder if JJ Uggla, and Hanson have been through waivers yet?
August 24th, 20125:30 pm
I never thought of Frank Wren as a patient GM. If the Braves go a couple weeks with uninspired play and poor results I just wonder when Wren would make a move in the managerial seat. Wren’s backside is on the hook too with this season. He could easily make Terry Pendleton the interim manager, keep our hitting coaches, and sort out the rest of the bench. The players might respond to the firing and it would be interesting to see TP in charge. I have no doubt he could fill out a better lineup card.
Sometimes the Braves just look like they need a fire lit under their backsides
August 24th, 20125:32 pm
I also have that same feeling that Sheets will get rocked tonight. Unless our offense puts up like 6-7 runs today it will be a long night for us. Although Giants dont really have much of a threat other than Pence Sandavol, and Posey who might not even play. So the lineup isn’t that strong
Fredi will not be fired during the season. He will be on the hot seat big-time if the Braves don’t make the playoffs. But it won’t happen during the season.
August 24th, 20125:34 pm
Gordon Edes @GordonEdes 10m
Blockbuster: red Sox, Dodgers working on deal that would send AGon, Crawford, Beckett and Punto to LA. Hurdles remain, but closing in
Ladies and gentlemen, the Los Angeles Red Sox!
“Hanson has just needs to be worked through and another full offseason of shoulder exercises could help.”
Sounds like another great reality show. Hanson, McCann, and Uggla all rehabing together. Hanson and McCann do shoulder exercises and muscles aka Uggla gives them massages to relieve the tension in their shoulders. Then they all come back like new in 2013.
August 24th, 20125:57 pm
Wow on that trade possibility,Crawford included!
August 24th, 20126:00 pm
First time this year after being a regular last couple of years. I pay attention to certain aspects of the Phil’s like the Big 3 and Dominic Brown, Utley, and Howard unfortunately for ‘13. Transplanted in Nashville I get the Braves every night and relish the fact that they’ll blow it again just like last year and 13 of their 14 Nl East champs. Face facts it’s an inherent trait they’ll never shake. What’s really humorous is I saw the other night they’re offering playoff tic. Haven these meatballs in the front office learned their lesson? I don’t know do you like trading your money back and forth every year. How can they even play Uggla. Batting what .117 over an unknown period. Phil’s will be back next year in spades. I actually think they gave up too early after they saw what happened last year with them playing poorly games down the stretch losing 5 of 10 then senile Manuel wanting to get some momentum and instead of letting the chokers in by sweeping them at will gave the hottest team in b-ball a ticket in. we all know the best team rarely wins or the Phil’s would have swept through the playoffs. do you think the Cards were the best team in baseball, the Giants in football? I feel sorry for you fools who follow this historically choking batch of losers. wish I could bet any of you the Braves don’t make playoffs. just bet 1000 to win 2000 they don’t make playoffs. stay up tonight and view the utter biggest choke team in history start to really slide toward the bottom of the wild card race
August 24th, 20126:01 pm
My line for the next several games. Put the best players available on the field and give them the best chance to win now. McCann is hurting and slumping and Uggla well……………
August 24th, 20126:03 pm
I am amazed at the Dodger Red Sox proposed trade.
Wonder who is going back to Boston? And they have already cleared waivers or are ML players?
Someone has put a claim in on Justin Upton. The D’backs say they will not trade him now.
August 24th, 20126:09 pm
All this people saying that every player needs an off day, someone forgot to tell Cal Ripken.
August 24th, 20126:10 pm
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August 24th, 20126:12 pm
Dodgers making the playoff push
August 24th, 20126:14 pm
flange, Morosi is saying prospects. Unreal
August 24th, 20126:15 pm
I wonder if the Braves pull something out the hat before Sept 1, if anything probably a bench bat. Its getting toward crunch time people, I’m tired of seeing the Braves collapse at the beginning of MLB 12 the show lol. Time to separate the contenders from the pretenders.
August 24th, 20126:17 pm
The Dodgers are not fooling around apparently. Must be nice to owners who actually want to win and are willing to spend money to do so.
August 24th, 20126:20 pm
what a concept, the dodgers want to win now.
August 24th, 20126:22 pm
Jeff Passan @JeffPassan
If this Red Sox-Dodgers deal with Gonzalez, Crawford, Beckett and Punto does happen, the Red Sox will clear $262.5 million in salaries.
Or about 3 times the Braves annual salary – just unreal!
Dodgers have people who are owners, not a darn corporation.
August 24th, 20126:24 pm
Let’s hope Sheets pulls through tonight and that we can finally put a sustained offense together. Uggla is getting to a point where it’s time to place him on waivers to gauge interest. He hustles, he plays hard and tries, but he’s just atrocious at the plate, and his base running errors last night were huge.
Let’s get some timely hits and slow it down a bit. Time for the Braves to buckle down and put together some offense. The pitching has been good (minus Hanson last night who was ok, but inconsistent), we just gotta get the offense going again. We get them playing to their potential and this team can be scary.
August 24th, 20126:27 pm
$$$, James Loney and a couple prospect for Crawford, A-Gon, Punto and Carl Crawford. All you have to do is pay them!
August 24th, 20126:29 pm
We were at the game last nite and were pretty fired up about the fact that the giants were going to do their Chipper tribute when we were there. That was about as mini a tribute as they could come up with. No presentation, no introduction to the crowd, quite a joke I thought. What are your thoughts on that “tribute”? It sure was painful to be a Brave fan in Brave gear at ATT Park the way that they played last nite.
August 24th, 20126:32 pm
Lil' Barry Bailout
August 24th, 20126:33 pm
Yeah, the Braves have more arms than they know what to do with in the starting rotation.
Unfortunately they’re all attached to #3 starters.
Any way Braves claim Ellsbury off waivers? What could Boston want for him? Hanson and prospects? Oh well! It was a nice thought.
August 24th, 20126:35 pm
I am sure the San Fran tribute to Chipper was better than the Marlins to Bobby.
August 24th, 20126:38 pm
That 40-game stretch of strong offense was the anomaly. Suckiness is to be expected from an offense that stunk last year too.
George, DOB is working tonight.
August 24th, 20126:40 pm
August 24th, 2012
Money talks and BS walks
August 24th, 20126:41 pm
Braves lineup: Bourn cf, Prado ss, Heyward rf, Chipper 3b, Freeman 1b, McCann c, Uggla 2b, Hinske lf, Sheets p
Could we package Fredi and Uggla in a deal to the Marlins?
August 24th, 20126:43 pm
Hinske starting in LF? With his speed, Bourn better really stretch before the game.
August 24th, 20126:44 pm
I hope Sheets has his strikeout game on, because that’s an…interesting defensive lineup.
64 year Braves fan
August 24th, 20126:46 pm
Trade Mccann & Hanson for James Shields.
I understand trying to rest Janish – not sure if Prado to SS is a plus over Pastornicky ,except it allows an extra LH bat (Hinske) start.
As bad as Hinske has been batting lately, I just don’ think this line-up will strike much fear in SF’s team.
August 24th, 20126:47 pm
right on cue
August 24th, 20126:49 pm
“Bobby V on waiver claims: “It’s all kind of BS”
That might work with some people Bobby V but Dempster has already used that same sort of “BS” fakeout you’re attempting, earlier this year. He was lying and you probably are too
where is that BOZO that said Prado would not play ss again this season?
August 24th, 20126:50 pm
Why is there no link to this current blog on the AJC Sports/Braves page??
“Hinske starting in LF?”
maybe management wants to give him a few more shots at trying to get back on track before they drop him
August 24th, 20126:51 pm
Thanks for the new blog, DOB. Just FYI, not sure if someone has already mentioned it – the old one is still linked on the main AJC Braves page.
We were at the game last nite and were pretty fired up about the fact that the giants were going to do their Chipper tribute when we were there. That was about as mini a tribute as they could come up with. No presentation, no introduction to the crowd, quite a joke I thought. What are your thoughts on that “tribute”? — Since57
It was better than Dodgers tribute, and as good as Arizona’s. Only West Division team that gave him a gift and had an actual presentation (other than a video) was Colorado, and Helton is a friend. He gave Chipper a small video camera he can use on his bow to film, for that show that Chipper has about hunting.
August 24th, 20126:52 pm
There should be a WAR for managers.
August 24th, 20126:53 pm
Scary lineup and not in a good way. Eek.
August 24th, 20126:55 pm
Uggla’s in the lineup! What a game-changing move by Fredi! Lol
If we get a lead, as early as the 5th inning, send Prado back to left and bring in Janish
August 24th, 20126:56 pm
Great article DOB,you didn’t sugarcoat it and covered all the bases.Only thing missing was mentioning how this team is scared and heartless.No real leaders Chipper included,no clutch players Chipper included.
August 24th, 20126:57 pm
If Adrain Gonzales, Carl Crawford, Josh Beckett and Punto all go to the Dodgers just for a few prospects, Bud Selig should nullify that trade.
August 24th, 20126:58 pm
WHOA! That lineup is just …. SMH
Hinske? Really? Prado at SS? I know REV is bad in the field, but I’d rather have Prado out in LF and REV at SS….. this isn’t what I meant for Fredi to do when I said give Janish an off day…
August 24th, 20126:59 pm
Well, with this lineup, we are worse defensively, and basically replaced Janish with Hinske. Is that much of an offensive improvment?
August 24th, 20127:00 pm
Uggla, Mac, Heavy….
Dear lord in heaven….then Sheets?
Hinske starting in LF? With his speed, Bourn better really stretch before the game.
Agreed…. cuz Heavy ‘Ske ain’t getting to much out there. I guess that Fredi has no trust in Tyler to start a game at SS?
August 24th, 20127:01 pm
Let the Dodgers do their blockbuster deal. We’ve seen how those have worked out for the Fish and Angels. Besides, putting a bunch of prima donnas together at this time of the season could be a recipe for disaster. They were already a good team and may be screwing it up by doing this. We’ll see.
August 24th, 20127:02 pm
I would rather have Livan Hernandez…Uggla in Japan & just play with 8 guys.
Fredi may like that now he’s adding Hinske to the lineup to make his bunkmate Uggla look better. I’m slowly stepping of the gravy train…and admit after 55+years active baseball fan…last 2 with Fredi have been most aggravating. (AND I was a first yr. Mets maniac…at least they were supposed to lose!)
August 24th, 20127:03 pm
Sheets is a flyball pitcher too…. He’d better have that K working tonight.
Let’s tip our cap to Fredi for at least trying to shake things up.
I get that Hinske is a LH bat, but he isn’t hitting a lick right now. Rev is a RH bat, and Fredi’s trying to load up against a RH starter – but….defensively, if I were Sheets, I’d be just a little upset.
Hope Sheets can get through the first inning or two scoreless, otherwise, it’s gonna be another long night.
August 24th, 20127:04 pm
Why not put Johnson in left instead of Hinske.
FG insists on playing Uggly, no matter what…
Captain Smith insisted on running the Titanic wide open with icebergs around….
Need I say more?
August 24th, 20127:05 pm
Another confidence inspiring lineup, I see. Fredi needs to be investigated by the Feds to see if he’s betting against the team… or tested for mind-altering drug use. Good grief.
August 24th, 20127:07 pm
I wonder what goes through Frank Wren’s mind when he sees a lineup like this.
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