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cabravesfan
August 23rd, 2012
6:00 pm
And if I got to keep Mac
Trey
August 23rd, 2012
6:01 pm
Oh you, VJ
Trey
August 23rd, 2012
6:07 pm
To all the good folks SE of Tampa, stay safe.
O.M.G.
August 23rd, 2012
6:07 pm
A-rod and Jeter for VJ, no not good enough.
cabravesfan
August 23rd, 2012
6:09 pm
I don’t want either A-Rod or Jeter. Ew
Brandon
August 23rd, 2012
6:10 pm
In the offseason, this is what i would do
- Jurrjens would be non-tendered( i think he will come back to form, but no room for him)
- I most likely would not re-sign Ben Sheets( budget reasons)
- Hudson and Maholm would be re-signed
- Trade Hanson for a power hitter( most likely an right handed outfielder). Move prado to 3rd
- Don’t re-sign Bourn.
- Accept the option on McCann if healthy ( i dont see many other choices)
- Package Francisco for right handed bat, or trade uggla and move francisco to 3rd, prado to 2nd, and sign outfielder(no left handers)
Rotation can be
Medlen
Hudson
Maholm
Minor
Delgado
Delgado was better than minor most of the season IMO, but minor was just on a roll whenever it was decision making time. I can’t see delgado staying in AAA much longer.
Long time Braves fan in San Francsico
August 23rd, 2012
6:10 pm
cabravesfan, McCann has been injury prone the past two seasons. Dude’s batting .229 in 2012.
In 2010, he batted .269 with 21 homes and 77 RBIs.
In 2011, he batted .270 with 24 homers and 71 RBIs.
In 2012, he’s batting .229 with 18 homers and 59 RBIs.
However the prior 4 years, he batted:
In 2006, he batted .333 with 24 homers and 93 RBIs.
In 2007, he batted .270 with 18 homers and 92 RBIs.
In 2008, he batted .301 with 23 homers and 87 RBIs.
In 2009, he batted .281 with 21 homers and 94 RBIs.
Four really good years…followed by 2 ok seasons (remember, he’s our clean-up hitter…meaning that less than 80 RBIs from the clean-up spot isnt very good)….and now a pretty mediocre (at best) 2012 season. McCann’s making $11.5 mil in 2012…followed by a team option of $12 million in 2013. Too much money to pay for an injury prone catcher who bats 4th/5th in our order.
O.M.G.
August 23rd, 2012
6:11 pm
Ew is right. LOL
chc4
August 23rd, 2012
6:12 pm
Hanson is the 6th man in this rotation.
Venice Jim
August 23rd, 2012
6:12 pm
Yeah, like quoting stats will affect her…
BravesFanInNashville
August 23rd, 2012
6:13 pm
It is much easier to find another Christian Martinez or Chad Durbin than it is to find a starter that pitches even close to Medlen’s results. It’s a body of work over a few seasons now. You can’t ignore he’s probably our best starter. He and Hudson are the two pitchers I’d want pitching a short series for sure.
cabravesfan
August 23rd, 2012
6:13 pm
Long time Braves fan in San Francsico-
That doesn’t answer the question I posed. Who catches for the Braves in 2013 if not Mac? (and he’s not our clean up hitter- he’s a No. 5 hitter) But this is kind of a pointless argument. They are unlikely to not pick up his option.
David O'Brien
August 23rd, 2012
6:17 pm
Picture-perfect day at AT&T Park, 60 degrees and sunny
http://yfrog.com/kj637oerj
Oh, and Posey’s out of lineup with that sore hammy again. So that’s another plus for the Bravos.
P Rose
August 23rd, 2012
6:17 pm
Medlen should start in the one-game wild card if the Braves are in it. He simply gives the Braves their best chance to win, and you’ve GOT to win that game.
I’m afraid Sheets may be out of gas already. He seemed to win his first few on sheer adrenaline, but the lack of strikeouts was alarming. Now the velocity is gone and his last couple of starts were not good. I hope I’m wrong, but he may be the odd man out.
Jay Dubu
August 23rd, 2012
6:25 pm
Don’t expect too much out of the Braves tonight. Flying cost to cost can be taxing, even on a luxurious charter.
After 3 rain delayed games in DC, and the late night flight, they’ll try just as hard as usual, but just don’t expect them to be Giant beaters tonight.
I hope that the Braves sent Hanson to San Fran long before the game even started last night.
richbrave
August 23rd, 2012
6:28 pm
TREY:
‘Zup man. How’s Carolina in the morning? Was down in CARY saturday for a BRAVES work-out day.
richbrave
August 23rd, 2012
6:29 pm
JAY D:
Coast to coast right?
P Rose
August 23rd, 2012
6:30 pm
Jay, no, I saw Tommy in the dugout last night.
richbrave
August 23rd, 2012
6:30 pm
Sending the starter to SAN FRAN three days early would help.
David O'Brien
August 23rd, 2012
6:32 pm
Giants lineup
1. Angel Pagan CF
2. Marco Scutaro 2B
3. Pablo Sandoval 3B
4. Hunter Pence RF
5. Brandon Belt 1B
6. Hector Sanchez C
7. Gregor Blanco LF
8. Brandon Crawford SS
9. Barry Zito P
Jay Dubu
August 23rd, 2012
6:33 pm
Long time Braves fan in San Francsico,
Braves have to show Mac some love in 2013, and reward him for what he’s given them for the last 7+ years. Hopefully, he’ll heal over the winter and be the Mac of old in 2013 so that he finishes his career with the Braves.ld Mac in 2013
Jay Dubu
August 23rd, 2012
6:34 pm
Gregor Blanco is better than the “real” Melky, so the Giants don’t really lose anything.
Jay Dubu
August 23rd, 2012
6:35 pm
coast to coast…It what i intended to type @6:25
Jay Dubu
August 23rd, 2012
6:36 pm
thanks richbrave…you hit the nail on the head.
Trey
August 23rd, 2012
6:37 pm
richbrave, it’s not too bad down here. How’d you like it?
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
August 23rd, 2012
6:40 pm
After reading O’Brien’s latest excellent comments concerning Kris Medlen………I gotta ask this question one more time, Why wasn’t Medlen in the rotation right from day one, and what does this say concerning the unprofessional (WRONG) judgement of Wren, Fredi G along with all the rest of the wienies running this organization???????
Long time fan
August 23rd, 2012
6:44 pm
DOB We need our lineup. Dont need SF that bad.
Venice Jim
August 23rd, 2012
6:44 pm
I gotta ask this question one more time, Why wasn’t Medlen in the rotation right from day one,</i.
Innings limit, like Strasburg…
cabravesfan
August 23rd, 2012
6:44 pm
how does an incorrect judgement (and in this case, it was not really incorrect- coming off Tommy John surgery, the team didn’t want to risk Meds throwing too many innings. See Strasburg, Steven) make one “unprofessional” ?
Venice Jim
August 23rd, 2012
6:44 pm
McFanned…
64 year Braves fan
August 23rd, 2012
6:46 pm
`To win you must play strong defense, especially up the middle. Ross, Simmons, Janish, & Bourne
give this to you. It should be the combination to use in September. Keep B. Mac & Uggla on the bench. Bring in a left handed hitter from the minors to use instead of Hinske in a pinch hitting role.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
August 23rd, 2012
6:47 pm
Does McFann get a royalty every time that happens? If so…
Long time fan
August 23rd, 2012
6:47 pm
Venice, you can go with the Strasburg theory on Meddog since he didn’t come back until late Sept from the operation. It worked out great for him to be in the pen so he could get innings and to help .
the team before getting to the threesome and we didnt know Durbin would pitch well this year.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
August 23rd, 2012
6:49 pm
When Coach says he’s going to ask a question “one more time,” do you get the feeling that it’ll be more than one?
cabravesfan
August 23rd, 2012
6:50 pm
Paul Janish has played a total of 12 games at 2nd base, and not played them very well
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/janispa01.shtml
(Just for comparison, especially this year, Uggla is a much better defensive 2nd baseman:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/u/ugglada01.shtml )
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
August 23rd, 2012
6:50 pm
Speaking of Strasburg………..
I just read Les Carpenter’s yahoo article concerning Chipper Jones comments on Strasburg not pitching in the post season.
Yes I agree with Chipper, It’s a mistake for the Nationals to hold him back for one simple reason……there is no Strasburg in the word team.
Venice Jim
August 23rd, 2012
6:50 pm
Atlanta Braves @Braves
Tonight’s lineup at SF (10:15, SPSO/680AM/BRN): Bourn 8 Johnson 9 Prado 7 Jones 5 Freeman 3 Uggla 4 McCann 2 Janish 6 Hanson 1
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
August 23rd, 2012
6:52 pm
Hugo Z Hackenbush
August 23rd, 2012
6:49 pm
When Coach says he’s going to ask a question “one more time,” do you get the feeling that it’ll be more than one?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I’ve been asking why Medlen wasn’t in the rotation since spring training, still haven’t got a decent answer.
SNEAKY PETE
August 23rd, 2012
6:53 pm
Nolier than thou @Carrot
why do you feel compelled to lie about this all the time> i read everything and nolie never said that he would not be a good starter, he said that he thought he was more valuable in the pen, as several other good posters.
It is also too early to know that he will continue in the same level, since his previous starts were not near as good as his relieving.
People like you make me laugh, You think because you come on here and make accusations against posters like nolie and scoots thar we are stupid enough to believe your lies when we have read all along.
I have no idea why you are so obsessed with those two that you come on here under different names and attack them without provocation, but you need to get a real life and get over the hate
richbrave
August 23rd, 2012
6:54 pm
Potential pitching staff in 2013
MEDLEN – R
HUDSON – R
MAHOLM – L
MINOR – L
DELGADO/BEACHY in June R
HANSON – R winter trade
SHEETS – R and JURRJENS – R out the door
GILMARTIN – L in AAA
GRAHAM – R in AA/AAA
100-mph fastballer only thing missing.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
August 23rd, 2012
6:54 pm
Comparing Janish to Uggla is akin to putting Ryan Sandburg and Mark Lemke in the same light. Enough said.
cabravesfan
August 23rd, 2012
6:55 pm
By “decent” do you mean “the one you want to hear” ? Because “he’s coming off Tommy John and we don’t want him throwing too many innings” seems like a decent answer to me
Hugo Z Hackenbush
August 23rd, 2012
6:55 pm
You got a double-barrelled answer at 6:44…
richbrave
August 23rd, 2012
6:56 pm
MEDS:
The BRAVES are limiting his innings coming off TJ
cabravesfan
August 23rd, 2012
6:56 pm
Comparing Janish to Uggla is akin to putting Ryan Sandburg and Mark Lemke in the same light. Enough said.
Except when you are saying you need the best defense up the middle and all the stats point to Uggla being a better defensive 2nd baseman than Janish, by a lot, actually. Then the comparison is perfectly reasonable.
richbrave
August 23rd, 2012
6:57 pm
Yeah, JANISH is hitting the ball on occasion at least
cabravesfan
August 23rd, 2012
6:58 pm
richbrave-
But that was not the comment. It was about defense.
Brava
August 23rd, 2012
6:58 pm
Yes, let’s take Heyward out of the lineup and put Uggla and McCann back in it back-to-back, as usual, so they can kill any rally that the Braves can try and muster. Makes perfect sense.
SNEAKY PETE
August 23rd, 2012
6:59 pm
Big series. Let’s go Braves!!
richbrave
August 23rd, 2012
7:00 pm
I want PRADO at second and REED JOHNSON in LF with a platoon of CHIPPER and JUAN at 3B. By platoon I mean when CHIPPER isn’t playing for the puddin’ heads.
AdirondackDave
August 23rd, 2012
7:00 pm
Richbrave — Didn’t I read somewhere that Graham hits 99 on the radar gun?
Brava
August 23rd, 2012
7:01 pm
Makes too much sense, rich.
richbrave
August 23rd, 2012
7:01 pm
defense ? There’s no need of comment. the sacks are covered.
ACE
August 23rd, 2012
7:02 pm
Medlen is in the rotation now and to stay.
richbrave
August 23rd, 2012
7:02 pm
Brava
August 23rd, 2012
6:58 pm
“….Yes, let’s take Heyward out of the lineup and put Uggla and McCann back in it back-to-back, as usual, so they can kill any rally that the Braves can try and muster. Makes perfect sense…..”
Yeah, you go lady
SNEAKY PETE
August 23rd, 2012
7:02 pm
By platoon I mean when CHIPPER isn’t playing for the puddin’ heads. @rich
but that is not really what platoon means, so I am glad you let this puddin’ head know what you meant
richbrave
August 23rd, 2012
7:03 pm
That comment was directed right at you, you sneaky devil…..
ACE
August 23rd, 2012
7:03 pm
so much for Jason hitting one in the Cove tonight unless it’s a PH.
SNEAKY PETE
August 23rd, 2012
7:04 pm
I figured and I qappreciate it
Veer
August 23rd, 2012
7:04 pm
WHAT THE HELL IS WITH HEYWARD DAYOFF. THIS OFFSETS POSEY INJURY. I MEAN COME ON WE ARE IN THE THICK OF A WILDCARD HUNT AND GONZALEZ IS RESTING OUR BEST PLAYER? WHAT THE HELL MAN? EVERYDAY SOMEONE IS BEING RESTED. MAC CANT CATCH MORE THAN 2 GAMES STRAIGHT. THIS IS JUST PURE BS!!!
richbrave
August 23rd, 2012
7:05 pm
AdirondackDave
August 23rd, 2012
7:00 pm
“…..Richbrave — Didn’t I read somewhere that Graham hits 99 on the radar gun?….”
100 on mine, but let’s not quibble about speed or playoons. BRAVA’s the only expert on platoon’s that’s here anyway.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
August 23rd, 2012
7:05 pm
cabravesfan
August 23rd, 2012
6:44 pm
how does an incorrect judgement (and in this case, it was not really incorrect- coming off Tommy John surgery, the team didn’t want to risk Meds throwing too many innings. See Strasburg, Steven) make one “unprofessional” ?
>>>>>>>>
Another ignorant bystander still doesn’t grasp the magnitude of the words WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP.
richbrave
August 23rd, 2012
7:08 pm
VEER:
You don’t like GONZALEZ’s executive decisions? Go tell it to BOBBY will ya’. He’s pulling the strings, FREDI just does the dancin’.
AdirondackDave
August 23rd, 2012
7:09 pm
Richbrave — Oh… I misread your post. I thought you were saying only thing missing is a 100 mph fastballer. Didn’t connect it to Graham. My bad.
richbrave
August 23rd, 2012
7:11 pm
“….Another ignorant bystander still doesn’t grasp the magnitude of the words WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP…..”
There is one? Been so long since I’ve looked at one, I’d forgotten.
cabravesfan
August 23rd, 2012
7:11 pm
Coach-
Before you go calling me unnecessary names, you failed to answer the question.
Bud
August 23rd, 2012
7:11 pm
I have always felft Medlen should be in the rotation. He hasn’t lost a start since 2010 (granted there is a lot of missed time in there). Medlen has not had a bad start, and as far as I’m concerned, he is THE ACE of the staff.
uga-brave
August 23rd, 2012
7:11 pm
that giant lineup does not exactly strike fear.
Jerry
August 23rd, 2012
7:12 pm
Enjoyed the article DOB. As for Uggla, so many people on here have said that you have to play him in order to for him to get into a groove. Well, he is in a groove and the wrong kind at that. It has gotten well past the point where he is gonna get anything good going during this season. He needs to be benched now for the rest of the year, so that he won’t continue to kill his team offensively. Others will say that we are in command of the wild card with him in the lineup and that is true, but that is because others have picked him up. When others slump, what we wind up with is a losing streak and the next one we might not recover from. Time to cut our losses this year and hope he can salvage his career next year.
Brava
August 23rd, 2012
7:12 pm
LOL! rich, you don’t think Bobby is making out the lineups, do you? That’s funny.
SNEAKY PETE
August 23rd, 2012
7:12 pm
that giant lineup does not exactly strike fear. @Uga
now we are jinxed
richbrave
August 23rd, 2012
7:13 pm
Thanks for catching my oblique soft-toss there AS. You da; man.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
August 23rd, 2012
7:13 pm
I had a dream in the summer of 1969, and a man on a flaming pie told me that Medlen needed to be in the rotation…
richbrave
August 23rd, 2012
7:14 pm
AD, AD dammit, not AS
SNEAKY PETE
August 23rd, 2012
7:14 pm
Enter your comments here
uga-brave
August 23rd, 2012
7:14 pm
then again if you would of told me our up the middle defense on august 22nd would of consisted of ross,
medlen, pastornicky, and reed johnson i would of thought we would of been 15 games out.
Bat Masterson
August 23rd, 2012
7:15 pm
BAS
Are you gonna be at the game?
SNEAKY PETE
August 23rd, 2012
7:16 pm
I wonder if Lentz will be at the game
jharber
August 23rd, 2012
7:16 pm
Uggla is back and no Heyward
Trey
August 23rd, 2012
7:17 pm
cab, when one resorts to insults on a question, it usually means they do not have an answer.
richbrave
August 23rd, 2012
7:17 pm
BRAVA:
Heh! We all know BC is alwats lurking behind the scenes calling all the shots.
And BTW, are yoiu not the resident expert on platoons not playoons? Gotta’ turn the danged lights on in here. it’s too dark ro see the keyboard.
richbrave
August 23rd, 2012
7:17 pm
Enter your comments here
ACE
August 23rd, 2012
7:18 pm
The braves should have put Medlen in the rotation after JJ left it.
richbrave
August 23rd, 2012
7:18 pm
I wonder if PL’s middle initial is ‘T’
cricket
August 23rd, 2012
7:20 pm
no posey, now just walk Crawford every time and this game is in pocket..
Brava
August 23rd, 2012
7:20 pm
I’m okay with Meds starting out in the BP this season, but as soon as signs of trouble with the rotation appeared, he should have been moved into it. I mean how long did the Braves suffer through horrible starts by Minor, Delgado and Jurrjens? Even barring that, he should definitely have moved into it when he came back from being stretched out.
I watched Fredi being interviewed last night and I could tell from his answers and body language that he was uncomfortable talking about how well Medlen pitched. They know they made a mistake, that’s why they came out with that cockamamie, bs story last week that they’d planned this all along.
I wonder how many more games we’d have in the win column if they’d acted sooner.
richbrave
August 23rd, 2012
7:21 pm
10:00 p.m. tonight? What channel’s it on? MLBN I hope.
SNEAKY PETE
August 23rd, 2012
7:22 pm
perhaps none
Brava
August 23rd, 2012
7:23 pm
I would give anything to be a fly on the armrest at the game with BAS and Lentz sitting next to each other. THAT would be awesome!
ACE
August 23rd, 2012
7:23 pm
Fredi never said anything about innings count for Medlen early in the season.
Bat Masterson
August 23rd, 2012
7:24 pm
I wonder if Lentz will be at the game
He’s probably there shouting “Hey, David O’Brainless”
ACE
August 23rd, 2012
7:24 pm
insults on this blog, NO WAY.
richbrave
August 23rd, 2012
7:25 pm
BRAVA:
Any old line in a storm. With two more MEDS starts against D. C. the lead could have been four instead. And the NATS are this year’s hurricane force.
VaBravesFan
August 23rd, 2012
7:26 pm
No Heyward… Gotta love Fredi.
Trey
August 23rd, 2012
7:26 pm
Hey,,,,,,,,,,,DIPPER JONES,,,,,,,,
Brava
August 23rd, 2012
7:26 pm
No, he didn’t, ACE. That’s a story they fabricated because they had so much egg on their faces, after Meds showed them how well he could pitch as a starter.
richbrave
August 23rd, 2012
7:27 pm
ACE
August 23rd, 2012
7:23 pm
“….Fredi never said anything about innings count for Medlen early in the season….”
BC whispered in his ear to not disclose the nefarious scheme.
Half Empty
August 23rd, 2012
7:27 pm
can you prove that brava
Bat Masterson
August 23rd, 2012
7:28 pm
Ha, The Dipper
Nice recall, Trey
VaBravesFan
August 23rd, 2012
7:28 pm
Medlen was coming back from major injury, they obviously didn’t want to Meds to pitch a ton of innings right off the bat. Work him in as the season goes. To be honest they probably never even planned on him being a starter, but injuries and struggles from others gave him that opportunity.