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cabravesfan
August 24th, 2012
1:08 pm
Lowe wasn’t stealing $15 million from anyone, let alone the fans
jeffrey d
August 24th, 2012
1:09 pm
Are we gonna see a repost?
Lew
August 24th, 2012
1:09 pm
Tommy Hanson is no good – the Braves are only 17-7 in his starts this year.
George
August 24th, 2012
1:10 pm
brian
August 24th, 2012
1:02 pm
Jason needs to rest every now and then. No problems with that.
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He needs rest at age 23? Really?
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 24th, 2012
1:10 pm
Jacoby Ellisbury is on Waivers…I want him in our OF for next year
Hell No to Bourn and his inflated contract
jeffrey d
August 24th, 2012
1:11 pm
All optimism aside, you can’t say that Tommy Hanson has not been good.
jeffrey d
August 24th, 2012
1:11 pm
All optimism aside, you can’t say that Tommy Hanson has
notbeen good.there we go….
cabravesfan
August 24th, 2012
1:11 pm
Yes, George, he needs rest even at 23. Everyone needs a day off once in a while
Arkansas Transplant
August 24th, 2012
1:12 pm
Medlen is your best starter right now.
It was just a week ago that everyone was saying Maholm was our best starter.. oh how quickly things change.
Trey
August 24th, 2012
1:13 pm
Hell, Kawakami had a $23 million contract for the Braves. Talk about a waste of money and space
Jeff R
August 24th, 2012
1:13 pm
How did Lowe “steal from the fans”?
You’re right, Jeffrey d, Lowe didn’t steal from anyone. He and the Braves entered into a voluntary agreement called a “Contract for Services.”
Some on this blog just envy the dickens out of pro players who are making oodles of bucks. They believe it’s “unfair.”
And then when a player fails to perform to expectations for the big money he receives, the vitriol really flies.
Lew
August 24th, 2012
1:15 pm
Oh yeah – let’s grab Ellsbury any way we can. But first, let’s totally ignore the .257, .305 , .355 season he’s put up this year and totally ignore the fact that he missed 144 games in 2010 and 85 more this year.
Arkansas Transplant
August 24th, 2012
1:15 pm
“I’m gonna suck it up tonight just to give it to the fans!!”
I could have sworn he was quoted as such.
tiger297
August 24th, 2012
1:15 pm
lowe stole from the fans? how many innings per year didhe give us for his money?
h8 to see what they say about hampton
George
August 24th, 2012
1:17 pm
repost I got stuck on bottom of page yet again.
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George
August 24th, 2012
1:06 pm
The way the BRAVES play on the left coast I refuse to watch late night games out there. I watched the LITTLE LEAGUE GAME and part of REDS game, then went to bed. It was a smart move the way the BRAVES played.
Efrim
August 24th, 2012
1:17 pm
Ellsbury is okay. But you’d have the same problem with him the following year. He’s a free agent after 2013 and will probably want something close to what Bourn gets.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 24th, 2012
1:17 pm
Tommy Hanson is no good – the Braves are only 17-7 in his starts this year.
The team’s been winning, but his pitching isn’t much fun to watch….. you need a Nexium when he pitches
especially lately, he’s been hit at a .323 clip
jeffrey d
August 24th, 2012
1:18 pm
Ellsburry missed those games after collisions that broke bones. It’s not like he’s tweaking things on swings.
And he’s got a 500 game AVG that’s above .300 and OPS that’s above .800. I’d take him.
Arkansas Transplant
August 24th, 2012
1:19 pm
Ellsburry…. Boras…… Enough said!!!
Lew
August 24th, 2012
1:19 pm
And we can also forget that Ellsbury makes more than $8 mil this year and still has a year of arbitration eligibility left this winter.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 24th, 2012
1:19 pm
As of right now Hanson has pitched in 24 games… he pitched in 22 last year. Yet he has “only” thrown 7 more innings than than last year…. he’s pitching shorter and shorter outings…
NO MORE FREDI
August 24th, 2012
1:19 pm
Please God don’t let this team make the playoffs!!!
2013:
Let Mac walk away.
Trade Hanson and Uggla.
Get a bat to play LF.
FIRE FAT FREDI!!!
Arkansas Transplant
August 24th, 2012
1:20 pm
He’d be a quick fix.. not a permanent one. We’d have him for a year and he’d possibly be hurt for most of that year.
King of Carrot Flowers
August 24th, 2012
1:21 pm
Would’ve hated to miss out on a post about George’s TV viewing habits. Riveting stuff.
Lew
August 24th, 2012
1:21 pm
jeffrey d – He broke ribs in two different places in 2010 (front and back) and broke bones again this year. That doesn’t make you wonder if he’s osteoperotic or if something else is going on?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 24th, 2012
1:21 pm
And we can also forget that Ellsbury makes more than $8 mil this year and still has a year of arbitration eligibility left this winter.
He’d still make less than Bourn…. though the fact that he’s a Boras client isn’t encouraging.
CB
August 24th, 2012
1:21 pm
George reposts one more time and I am going to…(fill in the blank)
Shaun
August 24th, 2012
1:23 pm
what is the logical thinking behind sitting heyward, playing bourn, uggla, and mccann during our worst offensive slump of the season against a guy we dont hit anyways. It absolutely needs to be asked — kelevra
I’m not sure anyone needs to ask Fredi about any of this, as the logic of it all is pretty implicit.
Against a left-hander, after a cross-country flight is as good a time as any to give Heyward a break.
You play Bourn because he’s been one of your best players this season. He and Heyward have been the best all-around players on the team, as far as contributions in all aspects (hitting, fielding and baserunning).
You play Uggla because there aren’t better options. Anyone who thinks there are seem to be overrating Reed Johnson or Tyler Pastornicky.
Ross has started quite a bit recently, again, the whole cross-country flight factor, and McCann is a vastly better baseball player. And even if McCann is so hurt that Ross should get a bulk of the playing time from here on out, Ross can’t catch every day.
Really? With all due respect, you are a big enough baseball fan to hang out and post comments on a baseball blog but you need a writer to get this kind of information for you?
Arkansas Transplant
August 24th, 2012
1:25 pm
You play Uggla because there aren’t better options
Actually, that’s untrue. You could play Prado there and Johnson in LF.
Slump?? No, Unless You Consider Enron As Slumping
August 24th, 2012
1:26 pm
Dave-You mentioned Gonzalez running Uggla out there until he breaks his slump. Do slumps usually last 287 games? I’m just asking. In your estimation when is it no longer a slump? 486 games? 648 games? 810 games? Look at what happened to certain guys coming out of the last decade? Did you see some strange instances of guys never being the same and especially when you factor in the age?
cricket
August 24th, 2012
1:26 pm
Tommy Hanson is no good – the Braves are only 17-7 in his starts this year.
wasn’t he getting very good run support?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 24th, 2012
1:26 pm
Hanson does have a career ERA of 2.04 in Sept/Oct….. when healthy. Hopefully he can repeat that this year, if he does stay in the rotation (which seems unlikely) http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=hansoto01&year=Career&t=p#month_extra::none
Hanson is decent in the 2nd half, worse than in the 1st half of the season. And despite coming into the league just as the 2nd half of the season was approaching, he still has more 1st half starts than 2nd half starts….. not good at all.
George
August 24th, 2012
1:27 pm
jeffrey d
August 24th, 2012
1:18 pm
Ellsburry missed those games after collisions that broke bones. It’s not like he’s tweaking things on swings.
And he’s got a 500 game AVG that’s above .300 and OPS that’s above .800. I’d take him.
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AGREED I have said several times he would be a good fit here and we could have get him cheap cause he seemed injury prone.
cricket
August 24th, 2012
1:28 pm
Has the September collapse started?
still August on east coast
Shaun
August 24th, 2012
1:28 pm
Actually, that’s untrue. You could play Prado there and Johnson in LF.
It’s absolutely true. That’s not any better an option than Prado in left and Uggla at second.
cabravesfan
August 24th, 2012
1:28 pm
AGREED I have said several times he would be a good fit here and we could have get him cheap cause he seemed injury prone.
So you are willing to trade for a guy who “seems injury prone” because we can get him cheap? How about spending a little more and getting a guy who doesn’t seem injury prone?
tiger297
August 24th, 2012
1:28 pm
You play Uggla because there aren’t better options
Actually, that’s untrue. You could play Prado there and Johnson in LF.
damn reed is good…he is going to play RF & LF in the same game
Arkansas Transplant
August 24th, 2012
1:29 pm
If you were going to claim a Red Sox player, I’d claim Beckett before Ellsbury.
Brava
August 24th, 2012
1:30 pm
Some on this blog just envy the dickens out of pro players who are making oodles of bucks. They believe it’s “unfair.”
I think most reasonable people don’t envy the players for the money they make, they just get frustrated that they’re getting paid huge bucks whether they are incompetent or not. The average person gets fired when they don’t do their jobs properly, not rewarded.
Aside from their personal pride and competitiveness, there’s no incentive for baseball players to excel once they’ve signed a huge long-term contract. Some of them don’t have those traits, as is evidenced by those who are substandard or mediocre year after year, then suddenly have a career season in their contract year. And they get paid, yet again, because baseball is a “what have you done for me lately” sport. But, you can’t fault the individuals, it’s the system which allows this to happen. The sport would be a lot more fun to watch if the compensation was based on performance like most jobs.
cricket
August 24th, 2012
1:30 pm
we could have get him cheap cause he seemed injury prone.
oxymoron?
George
August 24th, 2012
1:30 pm
CB
August 24th, 2012
1:21 pm
George reposts one more time and I am going to…(fill in the blank)
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Sorry CB , but no one reads bottom of page and I don’t want y’all to miss anything.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 24th, 2012
1:31 pm
Arkansas Transplant
Ellsburry…. Boras…… Enough said!!!
Nevermind, I didn’t know his agent was Bora sshole…
MVPrado14
August 24th, 2012
1:31 pm
“By the way, what kind of winning percentage against “good” teams would be satisfactory? .510? .520? Better?”
It’s not about that. It’s about having confidence when you take the field. Right now, against good teams, the Braves look and play tenatively, and it’s reflected in their win-loss record. If they want to seriously have a shot in October, they need to find some swagger. Otherwise, the results WILL be the same.
cricket
August 24th, 2012
1:32 pm
damn reed is good…he is going to play RF & LF in the same game
start him in CF also, closer to both RF and LF
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 24th, 2012
1:32 pm
.270/.347/.448/.795
That’s the opponent’s stat line against Tommy this year….. it’s amazing that we are 17-7 in games he has started…. the team has usually brought the run support for him. However, I don’t want a pitcher with those stats starting a 1 game playoff for me…. if I can avoid starting him in a series, that’d be great.
He also has his best ERA/record in his career when 3-5 runs are scored for him… 2-22 when it’s 0-2 runs. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=hansoto01&year=Career&t=p#rs_extra::none
Arkansas Transplant
August 24th, 2012
1:32 pm
damn reed is good…he is going to play RF & LF in the same game
What are you talking about? I wasn’t pointing to a specific game.. and why wouldn’t Heyward be in RF?
N8
August 24th, 2012
1:33 pm
“In graphic of Lance Armstrong’s accomplishments, right below 7 straight Tour de France titles, ESPN listed ESPY for Best Male Athlete.” DOB via tweet
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one that found the humor (silliness) in that.
I’m not down-playing the “importance” or reach of ESPN. Clearly a lot of people watch it and they certainly have their influence. But they also like to toot their own horn whenever they can.
Too funny.
CB
August 24th, 2012
1:33 pm
Thanks,George. It definitely makes my day to read your stuff twice.
N8
August 24th, 2012
1:34 pm
I would actually be more impressed with the “accomplishment” of nabbing Sheryl Crow than winning an ESPY. They should have mentioned that.
Shaun
August 24th, 2012
1:34 pm
Reed Johnson has a 113 OPS+ this season and a 92 OPS+ for his career. He’s a leftfielder.
Uggla has a 93 OPS+ this season and a 113 OPS+ for his career. He’s a secondbaseman.
Johnson no doubt provides more defensive value but probably not enough to make up for the fact that he’s more or less a league-average offensive leftfielder while Uggla, at worst, is a little worse than a league-average offensive secondbaseman.
I’m just not seeing that playing Johnson is a vastly better option than playing Uggla.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 24th, 2012
1:35 pm
Brava
“Some on this blog just envy the dickens out of pro players who are making oodles of bucks. They believe it’s “unfair.”
I think most reasonable people don’t envy the players for the money they make, they just get frustrated that they’re getting paid huge bucks whether they are incompetent or not. The average person gets fired when they don’t do their jobs properly, not rewarded.
Aside from their personal pride and competitiveness, there’s no incentive for baseball players to excel once they’ve signed a huge long-term contract. Some of them don’t have those traits, as is evidenced by those who are substandard or mediocre year after year, then suddenly have a career season in their contract year. And they get paid, yet again, because baseball is a “what have you done for me lately” sport. But, you can’t fault the individuals, it’s the system which allows this to happen. The sport would be a lot more fun to watch if the compensation was based on performance like most jobs.”
You are talking to someone who hates the Fact that Overpaid Athletes make tons more than Teachers, Military personnel, Cops and firefighers
Lowe Stole 15 million from the Fans in 2011 no making exuses for that…And I can’t believe that people are making excuses for him, Ditto for Alex Gonzalez 2.0 (Struggla)
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 24th, 2012
1:35 pm
wasn’t he getting very good run support?
Yes, if I remember right, he had the most run support of anyone of the team.
How about spending a little more and getting a guy who doesn’t seem injury prone?
Cheap is the Braves way!
The only guy in the FA market who seems good to get is Bourn, and to get him would be spending a LOT more… I’m all for trading for a CF, like Jon Jay though. Don’t want Ellsbury.
Hanson has been worth -0.2 WAR this year. Negative 1/5th…. Not good in the least.
George
August 24th, 2012
1:35 pm
Aside from their personal pride and competitiveness, there’s no incentive for baseball players to excel once they’ve signed a huge long-term contract. Some of them don’t have those traits, as is evidenced by those who are substandard or mediocre year after year, then suddenly have a career season in their contract year.
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Brava
I have noticed the above happens to often to be coincidence.
VaBravesFan
August 24th, 2012
1:36 pm
Regardless of the Lefty-Lefty matchup you don’t bench your #3 batter who has been doing great.
ncscoots
August 24th, 2012
1:36 pm
wasn’t [Hanson] getting very good run support?
Braves have scored 4 or more runs in 16 of Medlen’s 19 starts; 5 or more in 13 of his starts. But I seldom hear discussions about his “run support”.
Arkansas Transplant
August 24th, 2012
1:36 pm
It’s absolutely true. That’s not any better an option than Prado in left and Uggla at second.
That, I’ll disagree with.
tiger297
August 24th, 2012
1:37 pm
AT – you pulled a quote from something that specifically quoted last nights lineup – thats what i was referencing
cabravesfan
August 24th, 2012
1:38 pm
Lowe did not steal anything from the fans
Venice Jim
August 24th, 2012
1:38 pm
Reposted from last night, in case you went to bed early:
Venice Jim
August 24th, 2012
12:55 am
Nice shot, FF!
Arkansas Transplant
August 24th, 2012
1:39 pm
I’m just not seeing that playing Johnson is a vastly better option than playing Uggla.
Have you even watched Uggla play over the last 2 in a half months?
Brava
August 24th, 2012
1:40 pm
I can’t agree that they “stole” the money, T. The system allowed them to get paid, although their performance was substandard. Sad to say, but that happens in most organizations that have unions. I saw the same thing with Federal Government employees that I served around when I was in the military.
tiger297
August 24th, 2012
1:40 pm
scoots – whats his ERA in those 19 starts?
Brava
August 24th, 2012
1:41 pm
George, yes, it’s quite prevalent in the sport.
mike
August 24th, 2012
1:41 pm
I’d love to see the Braves make it into the playoffs, but in the long run it will hurt the team. The division is lost so they have to play that stupid one game wildcard game. How many of you really believe they can win a winner take all game? Not me based upon how they seem to not show up for big games. Once they lose, nothing will be done to better this team since it will be said they improved from last year and everyone will be brought back to try it again. On the other hand if they fold agian like last year, drastic changes will have to be made.
Trey
August 24th, 2012
1:41 pm
Tomahawkin, in the Military, while the pay may not be the best, there are many great benefits in the Military, that the civilian job market can’t match.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 24th, 2012
1:42 pm
But I seldom hear discussions about his “run support”.
He’s pitching well enough that it’s not an issue!
Lowe did not steal anything from the fans
He stole my heart and hope that we could win the WC in game 161 last year…. it hurt to be in the stadium that day.
Efrim
August 24th, 2012
1:43 pm
I get the sense that this winter will be filled with Hanson to the [insert team that needs starting pitching] rumors.
And I can’t wait to post them here.
VaBravesFan
August 24th, 2012
1:43 pm
Mike Minor isn’t supported by the team at all. Doesn’t matter how well he pitches were gonna lose more than half of em.
Minor’s last 8 starts. 51 innings 2.29 ERA 2 Wins 4 Losses 2 No Decisions.
Team only won 3 of those starts… He only allowed a total of 13 ER in that stretch. Braves only scored 21 runs for him over that stretch.
7 quality starts, 1 early exit cause of rain.
brian
August 24th, 2012
1:45 pm
for all the naysayers:
Brian (Greensboro, NC)
Do you see the Braves making the playoffs or is another collapse headed their way?
Jayson Stark (1:29 PM)
Absolutely. They’re not going to catch the Nationals now. But do you see two teams in the wild-card field that are better, or more balanced, thanthe Braves are? I don’t.
tiger297
August 24th, 2012
1:45 pm
ohhhh brava said the U word….hope we can stay away from politics
Brava
August 24th, 2012
1:46 pm
Lowe did not steal anything from the fans
He stole my optimism.
George
August 24th, 2012
1:46 pm
mike
August 24th, 2012
1:41 pm
I’d love to see the Braves make it into the playoffs, but in the long run it will hurt the team. The division is lost so they have to play that stupid one game wildcard game. How many of you really believe they can win a winner take all game? Not me based upon how they seem to not show up for big games. Once they lose, nothing will be done to better this team since it will be said they improved from last year and everyone will be brought back to try it again. On the other hand if they fold agian like last year, drastic changes will have to be made.
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I refuse to call that silly game a WC game. I call it a play-in game to become the WC team.
DAP
August 24th, 2012
1:46 pm
scoots Braves have scored 4 or more runs in 16 of Medlen’s 19 starts; 5 or more in 13 of his starts. But I seldom hear discussions about his “run support”
probably because his ERA is around 2.00
VaBravesFan
August 24th, 2012
1:46 pm
Trading Hanson will be like trying to trade Jurrjens this past offseason. Will Wren have a high price tag and not get a deal done and possibly watch Hanson fall apart like Jurrjens did.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 24th, 2012
1:47 pm
my last statement was dripping with sarcasm, btw…. No one stole any money, unless of course they used ‘roids to get that big payday.
Brava
August 24th, 2012
1:47 pm
I wasn’t trying to get political, tiger, just pointing to the root of the problem. I happen to think unions do serve some worthwhile functions. Protecting those who are incompetent isn’t one of them.
ncscoots
August 24th, 2012
1:48 pm
whats his ERA in those 19 starts?
I must have miscounted something, somewhere, LOL. B-R shows him with 23 starts, and an ERA of 3.47 as a starter. 13 starts with 6 or more runs, 7 more with 3-5 runs. I was looking at game logs earlier, and obviously missed some.
cabravesfan
August 24th, 2012
1:48 pm
VaBravesFan-
I doubt there were a lot of takers for JJ this past off season.
phil (the we're doomed now fan)
August 24th, 2012
1:49 pm
MVPrado14
August 24th, 2012
10:56 am
DAP – they’ve built most of those 71 wins against the 2nd tier teams.
My point is, we are all pining for the Braves to make the postseason, but they will not be facing the Marlins, Padres, or Astros once there. They will be facing teams that have kicked them around the field in 2012. Take it for what it’s worth, but to me, that doesn’t bode well for a deep run in the 2012 postseason (IF they even get there).
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I’m afraid you’re right….even if we somehow qualify, how can we really expect to do much? We look like deer in the headlights most games against these better teams.
Brian from SC
August 24th, 2012
1:49 pm
Bill Shaikin @BillShaikin 39s
Source: #Dodgers awarded waiver claim on Adrian Gonzalez. #redsox
Funny how stuff like this is reported in this day and time. In the very recent past, the whole waiver process wasn’t public at all. Gonzalez ain’t going anywhere.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 24th, 2012
1:50 pm
I get the sense that this winter will be filled with Hanson to the [insert team that needs starting pitching] rumors.
And I can’t wait to post them here.
Gee, I hope you’re right…. I just don’t see why a team would trade for a guy who has been injury prone and posted that opponent stat line that I showed above. .270/.347/.448/.795
Absolutely. They’re not going to catch the Nationals now. But do you see two teams in the wild-card field that are better, or more balanced, thanthe Braves are? I don’t.
Put The Ball In The Back Of The Net, Ya Bum
August 24th, 2012
1:50 pm
I have never said any pro athlete “steals”,however, since some are among the highest paid people in the World, is it Okay to be really critical of pitiful performances as long as we leave out the “steal” word? CFO’s, CEO’s, partners in law and acounting firms get bashed. Now I understand the idea that criticism of pro athletes contain more vitriol but that is all because of the vicarious nature of the fan association. And some may be jealous but I believe most just believe in the OLD American adage of an honest pay for an honest day’s work and many of these numbers don’t translate into another adage of being awarded for performance. So you have about 750 people in America who have put themselves into a very good position because of skill level, but let us not think that a soccer player signed by Manchester United, Real Madrid or ACRoma would not have the crap booed out of them if they had performed like some Major League baseball players. Strangely we associate milliuons of dollars with performance because that has always been the American Way. Instead of stealing, I would equate the arbitration process and other practices more with Socialism, and I know how that is loved in the South.
John
August 24th, 2012
1:50 pm
Heyward had a break a week or so ago. There is no reason to give him one last night. He is 23 and our hottest, most dangerous hitter. If Fredi wants to get Johnson in against a lefty, put Prado at second and Johnson in left. We are in a desperate battle for a playoff spot. Don’t rest your best player when odds are, he does not need it.
Trey
August 24th, 2012
1:51 pm
How much longer are we stuck with Jurrjens, if we can’t get any takers for him, which we probably want?
Brian from SC
August 24th, 2012
1:52 pm
How much longer are we stuck with Jurrjens, if we can’t get any takers for him, which we probably want?
A little over a month. Really, I don’t see him coming off the DL this season.
Trey
August 24th, 2012
1:52 pm
won’t*
VaBravesFan
August 24th, 2012
1:53 pm
cab
I remember reading about alot of interest in Jurrjens, the problem was that Wren viewed him as a Ace type pitcher and wanted a huge return. A deal was never made and 5.5 million went down the drain. Just goes to show it doesn’t matter how good a player is they can fall off a cliff at anytime. (Dan Uggla, Chone Figgins, Jason Werth, Vernon Wells and many others) Could Hanson be going down the same path?
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 24th, 2012
1:53 pm
Trey
“Tomahawkin, in the Military, while the pay may not be the best, there are many great benefits in the Military, that the civilian job market can’t match.”
True but I know several cats who have a hard time finding jobs once they get out…Which is BS and to hear Athletes wearing 20K watches and spending every night in Buckhead is just rubbing it in for the ones who struggle to find jobs
But its moot, no use crying over spilt milk
phil (the we're doomed now fan)
August 24th, 2012
1:53 pm
Bat Masterson
August 24th, 2012
11:22 am
Weather Underground has that little hurricane symbol sitting right on top of my house late Tuesday night.
I may have to head up north. Maybe pay a visit to Tomahawkin & jeffrey d. Smoke some hookah, listen to some ol’ Janet.
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I’m of course no weather guy but do pay attention…guessing if it comes to you, it’ll be a three at least when it gets there. But the odds are quite strong that it will now go a hundred or more miles east or west of you, given how often these forecasts change all the time. Perhaps the current projection will be your saving grace, if the weather forecasting past is any predictor.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 24th, 2012
1:53 pm
I doubt there were a lot of takers for JJ this past off season.
As it should’ve been…. think it should be the same with Hanson this offseason…. both guys had injury risks, and pitched pretty poorly down the stretch (In JJ’s case) and for the last 1.5 years. (Hanson’s case)
B-R shows him with 23 starts, and an ERA of 3.47 as a starter.
Take out his first 4 starts (where he had a good oppo. stat line but poor ERA) and I bet he looks even better.
Trey
August 24th, 2012
1:53 pm
Oh okay, I’d just let him go into free agency and deal with it himself.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 24th, 2012
1:54 pm
Trey
“How much longer are we stuck with Jurrjens, if we can’t get any takers for him, which we probably want?”
He will be Non-tendered a Contract in the offseason, Bank on It…
And watch he catch on with a team like the Yankees or Phillies and regain 2009 form
ncscoots
August 24th, 2012
1:55 pm
Instead of stealing, I would equate the arbitration process and other practices more with Socialism
Bubba, don’t give up your day job. I don’t think there’s much future for you in economics or market dynamics.
tiger297
August 24th, 2012
1:55 pm
brava – I know you didn’t mean it politically…doesn’t mean someone wont turn it into that though…
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 24th, 2012
1:55 pm
A little over a month. Really, I don’t see him coming off the DL this season.
Not even for Sept. callups? I mean he’s still on the roster… It might be useless to do so but I’m sure the Braves will do the “classy” thing and bring him back 1 last time.
Trey
August 24th, 2012
1:56 pm
Tomahawkin, they should have stayed in.
George
August 24th, 2012
1:56 pm
John
August 24th, 2012
1:50 pm
Heyward had a break a week or so ago. There is no reason to give him one last night. He is 23 and our hottest, most dangerous hitter. If Fredi wants to get Johnson in against a lefty, put Prado at second and Johnson in left. We are in a desperate battle for a playoff spot. Don’t rest your best player when odds are, he does not need it.
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The way JASON is playing right now ,I AGREE with the above.
VaBravesFan
August 24th, 2012
1:56 pm
Non-tendering Jurrjens gives the Braves another 5.5 million off the books. Which will likely be the money to keep Maholm on his 6.5 million option.
Trey
August 24th, 2012
1:57 pm
Tomahawkin, I hope he doesn’t sign with the Phillies and regain his 2009 form.
VaBravesFan
August 24th, 2012
1:58 pm
Braves being classy and letting Jurrjens pitch again would be some funny stuff. Fredi says “Hey Jair, get in there and lose this game for us one last time”