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Gary O
August 22nd, 2012
3:52 pm
Wow. Talk about trying to shake things up. All I was looking for tonight was to give Uggla and BMac the night off.
But FGon is going all in with the lineup change tonight. Hopefully Braves can get a win.
toast
August 22nd, 2012
3:52 pm
How is playing Ross and Pastor worse than playing McCann and Uggla?
ummm, it’s not. pencil them in
Ralph
August 22nd, 2012
3:52 pm
Carroll, in case you haven’t noticed they have been scuffling the whole season and most of last year too.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 22nd, 2012
3:53 pm
That is some of the more head scratching logic I’ve ever seen. Well done.
DS1But congrats anyway!
Thank you! Gotta admit, I feel all giddy like McFann does when her mann does something great.
And the game hasn’t even started yet!
cricket
August 22nd, 2012
3:53 pm
But a much better change would have been to put Prado at 2B and Johnson in LF.
Typical Fredi logic!
i thought that’s what Fredi did, didn’t he? off course, that won’t change the fact that Fredi is still solely responsible for starting world war one.
MiaBchBravesFan
August 22nd, 2012
3:53 pm
Uggla is not scuffling. Uggla is a bust.
McCann is not scuffling. He is legitimately injured, and thus rendered ineffective for the rest of the season.
The rest of the hitters, save for Heyward as of late? Ineffectual.
For four seasons, this is the type of lineup Frank Wren cobbles together and calls playoff-capable.
Not!
We are there now. Same as it ever was. That train is not gonna be late this year either.
Enough said. Have a lovely day, all.
Steve
August 22nd, 2012
3:54 pm
No Bourn tonight. That sucks.
Heisenberg
August 22nd, 2012
3:54 pm
Janish will get his day(s) off when Simmons comes back. He is not the problem.
Dan Uggla's Swing
August 22nd, 2012
3:54 pm
Been sailing around the Caribbean, absolutely beautiful. Might show up for a game or two, but partial retirement has been more fun!
DAP
August 22nd, 2012
3:55 pm
dan uggla was hitting .256/.387/.463 on june 16th.
ncbravesfan90
August 22nd, 2012
3:55 pm
“The entire team is to blame for offensive struggles. It’s hilarious for some to point at one single player.”
This.
nolie
August 22nd, 2012
3:56 pm
I’m relatively sure that Brava is not totally evil…….
Charles
August 22nd, 2012
3:56 pm
Bench Uggla — he just hasn’t produced and we got the new guy in the trade who’s hitting around .300. If McCann is hurt, he needs to get well. Ross is healthy, hitting just under .260 and is better defensively than the ailing McCann. Seems like a no brainer with the Bravos on the ropes, but Fredi F—Up will send these losers out again. Hard to beat a team with the Nationals staff when 3 of your hitting starters — Uggla, McCann and Janish — can’t hit at all, with questionable performances from many of the others. Bourn, our “franchise” leadoff man, has over 120 strikeouts in about 450 at bats. Doesn’t help jump start the offense at if your fastest player doesn’t put the ball in play over 25% of the time. It doesn’t really matter how well our starters or bullpen perform. The Nats have enough horses in their lineup to produce 2-3 runs, which is more than adequate to dispatch the Braves on most nights with their superior staff.
Braves Fan In Mex
August 22nd, 2012
3:56 pm
I love tonight’s lineup! Looks great!
I agree with all. On one side I think BMac and Uggla will get out of it. But I also think that ABs should be split, kind of a platoon (I know Pastor and Uggla are both RH) see if we can get more production. I think Fredi has to think outside the box and tonight’s lineup is a good start.
BTW I always read your comments, I never comment, but really enjoy everything posted here, even the hate.
njbraves
August 22nd, 2012
3:57 pm
Some of you guys need to relax. The blog has lost its mind in the last few days.
Murph
August 22nd, 2012
3:57 pm
i don’t like “This!”. for some reason, it feels to me teenageish..
Acquiesce!
Sopheee
August 22nd, 2012
3:57 pm
Saw this on the side under latest tweets -
•Jaw-dropping, aren’t they? RT @AshVille34: @ajcbraves’ blog comments have had me in literal tears all day. Oh. My. Goodness. 3 mins ago
Well done, everyone.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 22nd, 2012
3:57 pm
darn it, got a bad feeling that Rev is going to butcher couple of plays and K with bases loaded today
That’s not positive! Rev’s gonna go 3-4 with a 2run shot and a triple. 3 RBIs for the kid. He’s also gonna make some great stops at 2B.
Is that posted lineup legit?
Not complaining if it is.
It is legitimate, sir.
nolie
August 22nd, 2012
3:58 pm
better get out of the Caribbean DUS, hurricane might be coming
Heisenberg
August 22nd, 2012
3:58 pm
What does that mean when someone just type “This” at end of a post? I must not be as hip and cool as I once was.
Arkansas Transplant
August 22nd, 2012
3:58 pm
Uggla’s June numbers:
24 games, 3 hr, 17 bb, 33 so, .160avg, .327obp, .321slg and .648ops
Not pretty.
toast
August 22nd, 2012
3:58 pm
wow, tell me Uggla didn’t hit .115 in July????????????
r u kidding me. how is that even possible
Arkansas Transplant
August 22nd, 2012
4:00 pm
Braves Uggla is 31-for-215 (.144) with 5 homers, 40 walks and 79 strikeouts in in his past 64 games, inc. 2-for-23 in past six
TomTomClub
August 22nd, 2012
4:00 pm
No Uggla or McCann! Way to go Fredi!!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 22nd, 2012
4:01 pm
The rest of the hitters, save for Heyward as of late? Ineffectual.
Bourn… sukks…. Prado, he sukks too… Chipper, oh yeah, he sure sukks.
etc. etc.
I’m relatively sure that Brava is not totally evil…….
Sure hope so!
Some of you guys need to relax. The blog has lost its mind in the last few days.
*cough cough* name here *cough cough(
Arkansas Transplant
August 22nd, 2012
4:01 pm
Uggla’s July:
24 games, 14 walks, 28 strike outs, .115 average, .281 OBP, .179 SLG and .461 OPS
unbelievable
August 22nd, 2012
4:01 pm
Today’s lineup looks good.
Do what?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 22nd, 2012
4:01 pm
So Rev gets to play for Uggla today…. hope he gives Janish a rest tomorrow
King of Carrot Flowers
August 22nd, 2012
4:02 pm
The back of Uggla’s baseball card will soon be an indictment, not a cause for optimism.
Brava
August 22nd, 2012
4:02 pm
I’d still love an answer as to why she miraculously showed up this morning on the blog when she hasn’t appearred on the blog in the AM or during the day, like, ever.
I’ll answer your question because you are obsessing over it like you do Jason Heyward. I came here this morning to read the overnight because I’d been involved in some back and forth last night. It was just simple human curiosity. Now, when I got here, I saw that I was the topic of some not so kind comments by several here and that you were lying about what had transpired and saying I started it, I decided to defend myself. If it irritates you that much for me to be here, I’ll be sure to come around more often. Now, please leave me alone. You’re coming off like some sick stalker, like you do with Heyward. It’s creepy.
nolie
August 22nd, 2012
4:02 pm
well I happen to be between where it is and where he has it aimed, so I am not a happy camper
toast
August 22nd, 2012
4:03 pm
Uggla’s July:
24 games, 14 walks, 28 strike outs, .115 average, .281 OBP, .179 SLG and .461 OPS
what happened to this guy?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
if he was a Oriole would be batting cleanup and winning ballgames
tony austin
August 22nd, 2012
4:03 pm
Not the kind of lineup that strikes fear in the opposing pitchers, but a much needed lineup tonight. I think the boppers need more than this one day of “rest”, but I’m glad to see Fredi going this way this evening.
Tootsi
August 22nd, 2012
4:04 pm
“Scuffling a little bit” has to be the understatement of the year. Uggla is no longer scuffling, he just plain sucks. At least McCann has an excuse for his ineptitude of late.
Also, why are you guys consistently quoting Chipper after games in which he does not even play. He is not the manager. I’d much rather hear from McCann and Uggla as to why their approach in the 9th last night was so poor.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 22nd, 2012
4:05 pm
BTW I always read your comments, I never comment, but really enjoy everything posted here, even the hate.
You enjoy the hate? Dang….
What does that mean when someone just type “This” at end of a post? I must not be as hip and cool as I once was.
My way of agreeing with a previous post without saying agree or using T’Hawks “Co-Sign”
nolie
August 22nd, 2012
4:06 pm
hard to know what happened to Uggs, his last season in Miami was actually pretty damn good.
It must be sumthang in the Atlanta water since he is just another in a long line of promising pick ups who tanked
Arkansas Transplant
August 22nd, 2012
4:06 pm
Uggla has hit .000/000/000 since August 20th
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 22nd, 2012
4:06 pm
If it irritates you that much for me to be here, I’ll be sure to come around more often
That sure shows a big heart…..
Arkansas Transplant
August 22nd, 2012
4:07 pm
Uggla needs to get back on the juice… all he’s got now is warning track power and some bum eyes.
DS1
August 22nd, 2012
4:07 pm
nolie
Then you need to donate to the campaign to get that danged thing rerouted. Take care there buddy.
toast
August 22nd, 2012
4:07 pm
I’m relatively sure that Brava is not totally evil…….
maybe not but somebody pour and shake a cosmopolitan(or 6) for her
Hillbilly
August 22nd, 2012
4:08 pm
“The entire team is to blame for offensive struggles. It’s hilarious for some to point at one single player.”
Nevermind the fact that Bourn, Freeman, and McCann have gone a collective 7 for 40 (.175) in the 4 game losing streak. It’s an obsession over Uggla that matters most.
BRAVESFAN
August 22nd, 2012
4:08 pm
Praise the lord the two got the night off. I don’t think a fan cares who produces but that someone does. The Braves simply can’t wait any longer on these two. Let them work on their stuff somewhere else and see you come spring.
Murph
August 22nd, 2012
4:08 pm
1. Prado
2. Simmons
3. Heyward
4. Francisco
5. Freeman
6. Ross
7. Johnson
8. Janish
Your 2013 opening day lineup
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 22nd, 2012
4:09 pm
It must be sumthang in the Atlanta water since he is just another in a long line of promising pick ups who tanked
And not just in baseball…. seems like a lot of Free Agents who come to Atlanta, no matter the sport tank in Atlanta.
AT: Uggla wasn’t on the juice!
DS1
August 22nd, 2012
4:09 pm
nolie
The Uggla dilemma and the hurricane are all Bobby’s fault!
You folks have gotten me so hooked into the blog, that my stomach thinks somebody done gone and slit my throat!
Braves Fan In Mex
August 22nd, 2012
4:10 pm
Unbelievable:
Bourn is not hitting that bad against lefties, but Reed Johnson is doing better, BMac is hurt and Uggla plain ineffective, a leftie on the mound, we always complain that Braves can’t hit lefties, why not try a more right handed lineup? I think it’s good to do this, keeps Heyward and Freeman in there to sort of balance it out and does something different.
MVPrado14
August 22nd, 2012
4:10 pm
Seems like as Bourn goes, so go the Braves
last 4 games (all losses), he was 2 for 15; previous 4 (all wins) he was 6 for 17
He needs to get hot and stay hot right on through to the postseason for this offense to click
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 22nd, 2012
4:11 pm
Your 2013 opening day lineup
Tyler instead of Janish at 2B…. we need the offense!
Arkansas Transplant
August 22nd, 2012
4:11 pm
That’s just cause Uggla has sucked for so long, signed for another 3 years and at 13 million a year. He’s hurting the team in more ways than one.
Efrim
August 22nd, 2012
4:11 pm
If it irritates you that much for me to be here, I’ll be sure to come around more often. Now, please leave me alone.
You’re the acting like a five year old talking to yourself trying to ignore the comments of the people “attacking” you. Clearly, it’s bothering you a lot more than you are leading people to believe.
I’ll answer your question because you are obsessing over it like you do Jason Heyward.
Honestly, maybe you need to start “obsessing” over some players too. Preferrably ones that are on the major league roster and not at Gwinnett. Ones that actually factor into the teams plans going forward. You’re about as negative as anyone on here, and you do it making ugly comments. I mean, you think it’s an obsession that I enjoy to root for a Braves player and don’t tell players who do poorly to “go to hell” like you have done. It’d be fine if this was a one off from you. Really, it would. But it isn’t. This is the type of fan you are and it’s the type of fan that I’m going to “attack” whenever I want to.
Arkansas Transplant
August 22nd, 2012
4:12 pm
AT: Uggla wasn’t on the juice!
Then maybe he should start.
DAP
August 22nd, 2012
4:12 pm
murph Your 2013 opening day lineup
better not be.
nolie
August 22nd, 2012
4:13 pm
I am ok with the line up. one never knows what will happen until it has happened. Guys can likely use a day off
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
August 22nd, 2012
4:13 pm
King of Carrot Flowers
“The back of Uggla’s baseball card will soon be an indictment, not a cause for optimism.”
LOL
Efrim
August 22nd, 2012
4:14 pm
He’s hurting the team in more ways than one.
Actually, AT, it really seems like he is hurting the team in one way, unless there is something else going on that we don’t know about.
nolie
August 22nd, 2012
4:15 pm
maybe he should AT. plenty of others seem to still be on it
unbelievable
August 22nd, 2012
4:16 pm
does something different. – braves fan in mex
Different, yes, but certainly no where close to being good. Any lineup that has Pastor, Janish, pitcher at the bottom can never be viewed as good.
Woody Woodward
August 22nd, 2012
4:18 pm
Players “struggle” at the plate. They “scuffle” with each other.
scuf·fle vi \ˈskə-fəl\
scuf·fledscuf·fling
Definition of SCUFFLE
1
a : to struggle at close quarters with disorder and confusion
b : to struggle (as by working odd jobs) to get by
2
a : to move with a quick shuffling gait : scurry
b : shuffle
— scuffle noun
Examples of SCUFFLE
Children scuffled on the playground.
Small creatures scuffled in the underbrush.
nolie
August 22nd, 2012
4:18 pm
What’s the worst than can happen? WE get swept and lose another game. Life will still go on
Hmmmm
August 22nd, 2012
4:19 pm
“Janish will get his day(s) off when Simmons comes back”
Janish will be getting a bunch of days off once Simmons is back.
Murph
August 22nd, 2012
4:19 pm
Can we just drop the whole “go to hell” thing? It’s like listening to the 4 year old and the 6 year old argue over who forgot to let the dog out… in the end it doesn’t matter, it’s just another stinky pile of crap to avoid until Mrs Murph gets home and picks it up.
nolie
August 22nd, 2012
4:20 pm
scuffle has been around baseball a long time, like ‘getting off the schneid’
toast
August 22nd, 2012
4:20 pm
1. Prado
2. Simmons
3. Heyward
4. Francisco
5. Freeman
6. Ross
7. Johnson
8. Janish
comedy hour at 4pm. and for everybody’s theme song coming to the plate GNR playing “Welcome to the Cellar”
Brian from SC
August 22nd, 2012
4:21 pm
To answer the question you asked, perhaps of me, several times, AT…
Playing Ross and Johnson is not necessarily worse on any given day. But over a course of more than a game here and there, Ross and Johnson at their best are not nearly as good as McCann and Uggla at their best. We need McCann and Uggla at their best.
Brava
August 22nd, 2012
4:21 pm
Not thrilled with Rev starting, but I know Janish needs a day off sometimes.
Except that it’s Uggla who has the day off…. you know, the guy who needs to go to hell…. you must be happy to see him out the lineup.
My mistake, I glanced at the lineup and assumed Pastornicky was spelling Janish. As for the rest, I’ll, again, chalk that up to your youth and forgive your constant rudeness.
TennesseePaul
August 22nd, 2012
4:22 pm
Last 9 Starts of the Starting 9
_________AVG__OBP__SLG___OPS_wOBA_L9S9+
Prado__ .310 .326 .595 0.921 .385 __157
Reed___ .281 .343 .375 0.718 .350 __107
Heyward .361 .452 .667 1.119 .493 __217
Chipper .250 .357 .556 0.913 .335 __157
Freeman .125 .256 .156 0.413 .235 ___24
Ross___ .212 .316 .333 0.649 .321 ___88
Pastorn .148 .179 .185 0.364 .155 ____5
Janish_ .281 .343 .313 0.655 .304 ___91
Medlen_ .111 .200 .111 0.311 .147 ___-6
P Rose
August 22nd, 2012
4:22 pm
2011 — Derek Lowe — You’ve got to keep running him out there.
2012 — Dan Uggla — You’ve got to keep running him out there.
After all, Frank Wren paid a boatload of money for these guys, so he’s gotta try to save face.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 22nd, 2012
4:24 pm
So sorry, Brava. I’ll try my best to do better….
DAP
August 22nd, 2012
4:25 pm
nolie What’s the worst than can happen? WE get swept and lose another game. Life will still go on
we’ll see about that…
Arkansas Transplant
August 22nd, 2012
4:25 pm
Brian from SC, I wasn’t suggesting to bench them indefinitely but I think about a week off could do them both some good. Like you said, we’re going to need them. Let’s get them healthy or at least healthier.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 22nd, 2012
4:25 pm
https://twitter.com/Bravesmeme/status/238367173750423553/photo/1/large
Brian from SC
August 22nd, 2012
4:27 pm
I think a week is too long, AT. A day is good…two maybe. But sitting a healthy major leaguer with a track record of success for a week is making quite a bold statement about that player. I don’t think the Braves are there yet with these guys.
Brava
August 22nd, 2012
4:28 pm
Can we just drop the whole “go to hell” thing? It’s like listening to the 4 year old and the 6 year old argue over who forgot to let the dog out… in the end it doesn’t matter, it’s just another stinky pile of crap to avoid until Mrs Murph gets home and picks it up.
Once this crowd fixates on something, they can’t seem to let it go until the next unwitting person says something they can latch on to so they can affirm their holier-than-thou self-images. A good shrink could do wonders around here.
Woody Woodward
August 22nd, 2012
4:29 pm
Well, nolie, you might be right, but its only been in the last few years that I’ve heard it used regularly to describe a struggling player. Schneid, on the other hand, I’ve always heard. Schneid, by the way, appears in the wikipedia baseball glossary, but scuffle does not. (scuffle, should be listed right after “screwball.”)
Maybe I’ve averse to scuffle because it’s one of Joe Simpson’s favorite descriptions. That should be reason enough to object to its use.
Brian from SC
August 22nd, 2012
4:29 pm
It would be different if, for example, the Braves had acquired Josh Willingham at the deadline. To sit Uggla in favor of him is one thing. But to sit him for a week in favor of Reed Johnson or Tyler Pastornicky? You have to hope Uggla gives you a better chance than those guys.
Woody Woodward
August 22nd, 2012
4:31 pm
Sorry, “I’m” averse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_baseball#S
HO TO GELL
August 22nd, 2012
4:32 pm
HO TO GELL, UGGLA!!
MikeInFl
August 22nd, 2012
4:32 pm
A good shrink could do wonders around here.
You’re one to talk. You’ve spent the better part of an entire day “defending your honor” to a bunch of faceless usernames on a web site. I’m not saying you’re right or wrong, but I sure do wish you’d stop responding to every perceived insult and just let it go.
cricket
August 22nd, 2012
4:32 pm
Your 2013 opening day lineup
Tyler instead of Janish at 2B…. we need the offense!
with either of those lineups, i’ll not renew my MLB EI subscription and may finally start going to gym
Brian from SC
August 22nd, 2012
4:34 pm
The Mets placed Johan Santana on the DL…he’s done for the year.
DAN UGGLA CAN
August 22nd, 2012
4:34 pm
HO TO GELL. AND TAKE MCCANN WITH HIM
cricket
August 22nd, 2012
4:36 pm
wow
http://todayentertainment.today.com/_news/2012/08/22/13417610-i-can-paint-that-wait-no-i-cant-amateur-artist-messes-up-century-old-artwork?lite
Brava
August 22nd, 2012
4:38 pm
I’m not saying you’re right or wrong, but I sure do wish you’d stop responding to every perceived insult and just let it go.
Gee, Mike, I’ve been trying. Please try and keep up.
Further On Down the Road
August 22nd, 2012
4:39 pm
Brava loves to accuse others of doing exactly what she herself does, doesn’t she? Funny as hell.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 22nd, 2012
4:39 pm
The Mets placed Johan Santana on the DL…he’s done for the year.
Dang…. he’s been horrible after pitching that no-hitter…. hope he gets better for next year.
Murph
August 22nd, 2012
4:39 pm
with either of those lineups, i’ll not renew my MLB EI subscription and may finally start going to gym
I will not be renewing my MLB.TV subscription for next season… unless the Braves land some really exciting players, at least.
It’s not a form of protest… just getting harder to justify 3 hours a night to watch this team play baseball. Priorities.
Father A. Long
August 22nd, 2012
4:41 pm
Bring Glnn Hubbard back as our 2nd bagger!
Efrim
August 22nd, 2012
4:41 pm
Once this crowd fixates on something, they can’t seem to let it go until the next unwitting person says something they can latch on to so they can affirm their holier-than-thou self-images. A good shrink could do wonders around here.
If you don’t like the way it is around here, then please leave. No one will miss you and your negativity. I mean, this blog has less of good regular posters because of the people like you, Brava. Not me. You. This is pretty easy to see. As easy as it was to see that Jose Constanza is a 5th outfielder.
Hah! I’m sorry, I had to get that in.
Brava
August 22nd, 2012
4:41 pm
At least I have the courage to use the same moniker all the time unlike many of the cowards here. And, no, I’m not accusing anyone of doing what I do myself. Again, comb these blogs, I’ve been here for over three years. Find me ONE instance where I attacked anyone unprovoked. I’ll be here waiting.
Further On Down the Road
August 22nd, 2012
4:43 pm
you attack somebody unprovoked evey day you come, and you do it over and over and over. The difference whether a player or a poster, you’re just a hypocrite
Wow...
August 22nd, 2012
4:45 pm
And the chick fight continues….
nolie
August 22nd, 2012
4:45 pm
Meds needs to pitch a gem tonight…and pray
Long time fan
August 22nd, 2012
4:46 pm
Interesting lineup. Need to get Bourn out for a game. Uggla and McCann need to sit for a couple of days (This is no-duh but I wanted to add something). Now we just wait and see.
Efrim
August 22nd, 2012
4:47 pm
Meds needs to pitch a gem tonight…and pray
I’m sort of thinking the same thing. His last four starts were against mediocre offensive teams. Hoping he can put together another strong effort. We’ll need it, I’d bet.
flange1
August 22nd, 2012
4:49 pm
Kick some rear Meds!
Brava
August 22nd, 2012
4:49 pm
You are full of crap, Further (another coward). I don’t attack players every time I come here, in fact, I very seldom do. I’m usually pretty positive and I seldom get to the point where Uggla had me night before last. I certainly don’t make personal or character attacks against them. But please, feel free to post examples of where I’m attacking players like your ilk attacks other posters.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 22nd, 2012
4:49 pm
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
Michael Bourn is a little sore today but Fredi said he should be availble to pinch hit and could be used for defense. Should return tomorrow
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 22nd, 2012
4:51 pm
I’ll be around later folks…. stop fighting.
Take care, Go Braves, and, PEACE!!!
cricket
August 22nd, 2012
4:52 pm
Brandon McCarthy‘s rotation-mate Bartolo Colon was just suspended 50 games for testosterone, so McCarthy’s wife is smartly doing her due diligence on Twitter regarding the usage of other substances:
Hey @mlb, extenze is offering a two week free trial that I want to get @bmccarthy32… That’s cool with the PED rules, right?
— Amanda McCarthy (@Mrs_McCarthy32) August 22, 2012