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BravesFanSince80s
August 22nd, 2012
9:57 am
It’s amazing to me how quickly and how much people’s perception of something can change. Ugly Dan was defended tooth and nail all the way up until the last couple weeks as some kind of baseball “get out of jail free card”. Shaun and his ridiculous “small sample size” BS, Nolie and all his defense OBP tripe, etc. etc. etc. Now almost every post includes some rant about getting rid of Uggla. I complained of McCann’s defense 2 yrs ago and people ridiculed me, now he’s one of the worst in the league, and not hitting to cover it up. Uggla is exactly what I told all of you he was a .215 hitter in a high pressure environment. The only thing he did that surprised me last year was managing to hit 36 homers. I forgot to take into account the shorter fences at the Ted, in comparison to that football stadium he had been hitting in. Other than that, Ugly Dan has been exactly as I thought he would, a phony, a never-was, and I agree with a commenter last night that there is a good possibility that he was juicing in FLA before the testing got a lot tougher. I think that the
Bro
August 22nd, 2012
10:00 am
IT IS JUST AMAZING HOW CHIPPER, THE MAGNIFICENT ONE, SITS AGAINST THE OTHER TEAMS BEST PITCHER. GUESS HE DOESN’T WANT TO LOOK BAD. WHY DO YOU SIT WHEN FACING THE TEAM YOU MUST BEAT. HAS HE ALREADY RETIRED? GUESS HE HAS.
THANKS FOR THE HELP TEAM MATE.
BravesFanSince80s
August 22nd, 2012
10:03 am
-biggest reason the Braves have the record they do to this point is because so many teams SUCK this year in the NL, they’ve beat up losers all year long and lets call a spade a spade, this team would not have the record they do if the division had not tanked like it has. The Nats have played beyond potential, but other than that the rest of our competition has all but mailed it in…
BravesFanSince80s
August 22nd, 2012
10:06 am
and to an earlier commenter who tried to say we’re in one of the 2 toughest divisions in baseball: how? we have one pretty good team, one mediocre team, and three TERRIBLE teams, how is that one of the 2 toughest divisions in all of baseball?
NO O
August 22nd, 2012
10:09 am
Old saying of Good Pitching Beats Good Hitting but as the Braves proved against LA and now the Nats we change it from that to Good Pitching Completely shuts down BAD HITTING.
bobby
August 22nd, 2012
10:11 am
About the only difference between the Braves and the Cubs is that the Cubs lose all year, not just at clutch time.
GaryinBham
August 22nd, 2012
10:13 am
Disappointing losses. Both games winnable but in truth, Nats starters are really good. They are as advertised, they have a very good team, and bats are cold. If Meds can win this one, we only lost a game in the series. If we lose today, it’s eight out and a long way uphill.
At this point, you keep riding to the end. I think the new format for the Wild Card makes it harder to do what St. Louis did last year, but it’s probably our only shot at this point. I don’t see us catching these guys barring their collapse or injuries.
On another note, interesting article on the worst long-term contracts ever on CNNSI today. Neagle, Ortiz and Hampton made three of the top ten.
Backdoor Slider
August 22nd, 2012
10:21 am
FREDI’S NOT EARNING HIS PAY
When asked if he considered walking Flores, Fredi responded:
“Of course, that’s what we get paid for.”
Then how well did pitching to Flores, who had been consistently hot against the Braves, work out for you Fredi — and toward the team actually winning an important game?
Well Fredi, just to clue you in, you’re not doing a very good job earning your pay.
It’s pink slip time.
DawgNole
August 22nd, 2012
10:27 am
Won’tNeverQuitChopping10
August 21st, 2012
11:38 pm
Just wondering if im the only braves fan that will not concede the division to the gnats?
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Probably not. But you should be.
Quicherbichin
August 22nd, 2012
10:33 am
Please, Braves.. go on a winning streak so negative posters will stay off here for awhile!!!
cutty
August 22nd, 2012
10:33 am
We live on the NC-Va line so we had to watch the Wash. feed of the games. Ray Knight (the ex Met from Albany, Ga) is one of their announcers and had an interesting comment last night- in comparing the two teams infields he remarked that Chipper usually catches what he gets to but his range is limited and that Uggla is error prone with the worst range of any second baseman in baseball.
DawgNole
August 22nd, 2012
10:40 am
RichNat
August 21st, 2012
11:58 pm
“Who would have ever thought seeing the term “big boys” in a sentence about the Braves playing the Washington Nationals would even be possible.”
Certainly not us Nationals fans.
Nobody won anything in August. We’re up a little. We feel we need all the help we can get.
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Rest assured that the Braves likely will give you all the help you need.
JMac
August 22nd, 2012
10:41 am
As I said yesterday, the great slide of 2011 continues into 2012. The Braves will not make the playoffs, as the Pirates, Cardinals, Dodgers and Giants are all nipping at their heels, and the Braves will fold again, just like last year.
Where was the supposed leader of the Braves, the mighty Chipper Jones. He was taking a day off during the most important series of the season thus far. Great show of leadership!! The farewell tour will be ending after game #162. When you have a lineup that features Uggla, McCann, and Francisco back to back to back, you are not playoff worthy. No leadership on or off the field.
NO O
August 22nd, 2012
10:41 am
Almost time for the September Crash
Largesse Outweighs Urbanity
August 22nd, 2012
10:41 am
I’ve met Lou and know him quite well and he is shocked by the discussion of Uggla’s personal life off the field. He was always adamant that to him it only concerned his inability to perform as a Major League baseball player. Numerous times he agreed with bloggers that Uggla IS a very nice guy,hustles, and he really has no info about his personal life, nor would he discuss it anyway. It always was and always will be about frank Wren bidding against himself to acquire a 2B who seemed to have the same characteristics as other players who would quickly lose it and he did. i bet Lou wishes he had never posted under names but some people just react in different ways after being ridiculed,insulted and called names when he first said Uggla would be a flop. It’s a baseball blog and he gave an opinion and he was hit for it. Others could keep saying “It’s okay, Uggla will hit come June(July, August September) and that was okay. It was just not okay to say Uggla would never hit.
DawgNole
August 22nd, 2012
10:47 am
Quicherbichin
August 22nd, 2012
10:33 am
Please, Braves.. go on a winning streak so negative posters will stay off here for awhile!!!
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How bout they go on a winning streak so we can ALL be happy with their success? And so the delusional excuse-makers like you will quit whining about the realists on here for awhile!!!
Quicherbichin
August 22nd, 2012
10:50 am
New to the ajc blogs… The ” Now Trending on AJC Blogs Box” should have 1) Whining 2) More whining and 3) Excessive whining all by so called Atlanta Braves fans.. if you’re a fan, support your team… if you’re a whiner… go on blogs and whine the day away!
Jeff
August 22nd, 2012
10:51 am
If uggla performs to a quarter of the value of his deal, no one would give a damn about Lou and there would be no negativity on this blog because a 1/4 Dan Uggla pre us getting him and we are probably in 1st.
JNick
August 22nd, 2012
10:53 am
Oh the comments…lol
clt brave
August 22nd, 2012
10:54 am
Another tough loss in a “must win” situation. I was really surprised to hear that Chipper wasnt starting; holding my breath that he had injured something–then head Pom Pom Simpson says that “Chipper has the night off” and Im stunned; biggest series of the year and he’s taking a day off?? I can only hope his absence was for a legitimate reason. (his replacement, mr francisco, went 0 for 4 with 2 strikeouts; not saying Chipper would have done any better, but…..) I almost didnt watch any of the game after reading the lineup and saw that Dan was starting at 2b…..for those of you that care, STAT UPDATE for our ALL STAR second baseman: last night, 0 for 4; sinc e the ALL STAR break, he is 21 for 115 ( .182) and for the season he is now batting .208 HE HAS HAD ONE HIT IN THE LAST FIVE GAMES…… Fredi, i think you should move him to clean up……
Let's Go Tigers
August 22nd, 2012
10:55 am
Imagine if someone would have told you in March 2011 that the Braves would not be able to trade Dan Uggla to the Detroit Tigers for Omar Infante in August 2012 even if they paid half of his deal. You would have been incarcerated.
Quicherbichin
August 22nd, 2012
11:01 am
DawgNole, i print your comments out on toilet paper so they can go where they truly belong.. the sewer.. it is possible to be a fan and not constantly complain.. most of the whiners here are wannabe Yankee and Red Sox fans.. personally, I say trade DawgNole to the Astros blog for a fan to be named later.
DawgNole
August 22nd, 2012
11:02 am
Quicherbichin
August 22nd, 2012
10:50 am
New to the ajc blogs… The ” Now Trending on AJC Blogs Box” should have 1) Whining 2) More whining and 3) Excessive whining all by so called Atlanta Braves fans.. if you’re a fan, support your team… if you’re a whiner… go on blogs and whine the day away!
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Quicherwhinin!
DawgNole
August 22nd, 2012
11:08 am
Quicherbichin
August 22nd, 2012
11:01 am
DawgNole, i print your comments out on toilet paper so they can go where they truly belong.. the sewer.. it is possible to be a fan and not constantly complain.. most of the whiners here are wannabe Yankee and Red Sox fans.. personally, I say trade DawgNole to the Astros blog for a fan to be named later.
__________________
Do you care about ATL teams at all?
Or are you on here simply to whine about those you perceive as whiners?
You’d do well to follow the advice you offer in your blog handle. Hypocrite.
Good News and Bad Uggla(News)
August 22nd, 2012
11:14 am
Dan has 86 hits in 416 AB’s, therefore he needs to go 0 for 14 to get to Mendoza. When you are this bad it takes supreme efforts to continue decline. The bad news for dan is IF he gets to bat 134 more times in last 39 games to finish with 550 AB’s for the year, he will need to go 46 for 134(.343!!!) to finish at .240. Anyone see a .343 coming up?
Arizona Brave
August 22nd, 2012
11:16 am
I can’t believe FG sent out the same line up,he has to sit Uggla and McCann to even give Meds a chance to win tonight.Play Prado at second and play Johnson in left. Maybe Chipper can get off his a** and grace us with his presence on the field.If he can’t play in one of the most important series of the year he should just retire and let the team get someone who can play full time.
Jimmy
August 22nd, 2012
11:16 am
DawgNole, Don’t sweat this guy. He said he writes your comments on toilet paper. Do you really believe he buys toilet paper??
It Can Be Arranged
August 22nd, 2012
11:21 am
Is it too late for Dan to join Chipper on a farewell tour?
Quicherbichin
August 22nd, 2012
11:22 am
DawgNole- I care about the Atlanta teams a lot.. and I support them.. all of those that come here and complain can’t really say they support the team… they cheer when they win and whine when they lose.. and that is all they do.. as far as Jimmy goes.. your opinion will be worth something if and when you say something worthwhile as opposed to making rude comments that have no bearing whatsoever on the truth of the situation.
Jimmy
August 22nd, 2012
11:25 am
I’m being truthful. I really don’t believe you avail yourself of such creature comforts. You are too busy monitoring this blog to venture to the store. You probably have pizza delivered and go from there. The pizza guy better have a Braves shirt.
Quicherbichin
August 22nd, 2012
11:27 am
Jimmy- YOU are the reason that SportsTalk Radio refers to some bloggers as ” the lunatic fringe”. Feel free to look up lunatic in your dictionary if you can find it.. oh wait.. I forgot.. it’s against your religion to own books.
Quit Your Complaining About The Truth
August 22nd, 2012
11:30 am
Quiche is the type of guy who if his CPA messed up his tax returns for 7 years and he was going to jail would say at his sentencing “Hey, I’m still big fans of Teddy’s Tax Preparers and they will do my returns when I get out”.
Mo
August 22nd, 2012
11:33 am
Ol Braves @ it again
Jo
August 22nd, 2012
11:34 am
Another year, another collapse……I have no idea why this is so. We should have overall as good or better pitching than anyone else and our hitting should be at least adequate. When the Braves play good teams though, pitching is mediocre and the hitting turns cold…..
Looks like Fall of freefalling Braves part II, Falcons meeting a mediocre year, and the Hawks being like a box of chocolate, being real bad, mediocre, or teasing us before swooning late.
Jimmy
August 22nd, 2012
11:34 am
Jimmy, Your religion obviously relates to the eternal worship of your idols. It just so happens that instead of a Sun God, your deity is a baseball team. You know what we call people who blindly follow an entity or person with no concern for how that person or entity behaves(performs), of course the answer is a FANatic. You are a Braves FANatic.
BravesFanSince80s
August 22nd, 2012
11:34 am
@QuicherBS’n: I read these blogs more than I comment on them and I can’t remember the last positive and constructive contribution YOU made to the blog either. IF you say you are as you claim to be, what pray tell is your opinion of the club as it stands at the moment? Hmmmm?
therut
August 22nd, 2012
11:36 am
I just wish I could understand why FG continues to send Bmac & Uggla out there everynight. It just makes no sense.
Long time fan
August 22nd, 2012
11:36 am
Uggla and McCann both need to sit. McCann is hurt and Uggla is hurting the team. Maybe put Prado at 2nd and Johnson in LF or have Pastornicky play second. Also, somebody tell Bourn to quit striking out. Last night you had hope with the first four then you got to Uggly, Francisco and McCann. Doesnt work regardless who is managing.
Fats OKelly
August 22nd, 2012
11:37 am
We are still 1 7 GAMES OVER .500 without Uggla or McCann contributing. When they remeber how to hit like Big League hitters, we will strom into the playoffs. FG might want to sit them both down to get their attention and get them mentally and physically well. 10 games on the bench might do it. Nobody is too good to ride the bench
Jimmy
August 22nd, 2012
11:43 am
I believe the Braves CAN be one of the most dangerous teams in baseball when all parts are clicking. A very good lineup, like their starting pitching and versatility of bench and bullpen and a great minor league system, HOWEVER, if they continue to allow a 2B who has lost his skills to bat in the middle of their order they will never be what they can be. Am i allowed to praise the present aspects of the team and future potential while stating they must remove the weak link? Isn’t enough enough?? See, Fats is another nice guy who believes that Uggla is in a slump. “Slumps” don’t last 284 games.
Chris Snow
August 22nd, 2012
11:46 am
Can’t blame it on the hurricane this time.
Charles
August 22nd, 2012
11:46 am
I agree Uggla needs to be benched. Ross is hitting .260 to McCann’s .220 something. Time to send a message that bad performance will not be rewarded.
Uggly As Sin
August 22nd, 2012
11:52 am
Charles-He needs to be GONE!! Benched this year and GONE next year. I just don’t know who takes him and that is with Fearless Frank having to chip in about 7,000,000 of Liberty’s money.Go through all the teams in baseball and look at their second basemen and find the candidates to want dan Uggla?
BravesFanSince80s
August 22nd, 2012
11:53 am
Uggla is hitting over .500 when the pitcher soft tosses him a gopher ball…
Jim Mora SR
August 22nd, 2012
11:58 am
Even if by some miracle, we make the playoffs (see Jim Mora Sr), does anyone really believe the Braves could win under the pressure of a 1 game eliniation? Playoffs?!!
daSarge
August 22nd, 2012
11:59 am
You can’t spell Braves without BS.
drew
August 22nd, 2012
12:00 pm
Does anyone know what day the Dan Uggla BOBBLE HANDS give-away is???
Uggly As Sin
August 22nd, 2012
12:02 pm
Braves Fan Since 80″s–Your comment at top of this page said that fan’s perceptions changed quickly. I believe they changed slowly due to the Pollyanish comments of many in the media. Uggla has been with this team for over 200 games. What baseball person would believe that this is a SLUMP? 1 3/4 seasons are 1/4 of a career for most guys and very few of them could have survived what Uggla is doing. I understand the obscene contract contributing to reluctance to get rid of him but if you had what you considered to be a hot wife and she suddenly gained 60 pounds and developed Acne Vulgarish and then started flirting with the pool boy would you keep her around because she had a pre-nuptial that said you must pay her some insignificant amount of your millions if you divorced her. Analogy might not be that great but I’m trying to say at some point you must see the money as a sunk cost and move on. there is a theory in economics that states we tend to hold onto bad stocks because we don’t want to admit mistakes. Dan is Enron and Lehman Brothers rolled into one.
dan
August 22nd, 2012
12:03 pm
Hire Davey Johnson!
ChokeAgain
August 22nd, 2012
12:09 pm
This team can’t beat any good teams, thus, they don’t deserve to be in the playoffs, and I hope they don’t make it. Despite their record (against bad teams that is) this team fails at everything. Good teams excel when their backs are against the wall, this team rolls over and plays dead. Heads better roll this off season.
BravesFanSince80s
August 22nd, 2012
12:14 pm
I disagree about the slowly part, at least fromt he blog regulars, tons of those guys have defended him when all logic failed. I even had one of them trying to tell me he was a better glove at 2B than Prado, and that hasn’t been that long ago! I agree, it was a TERRIBLE deal that never should have happened. Some argue that, at the time, we needed RH power and he was all that wa available. How does that justify the move? On paper, it STILL looked like a bad move for the money involved, plus I don’t buy Wren’s evaluation of the percieved need for power when our most electric team to date (’91) had little of that. The 3 run homer strategy from Wren and Gonzalez is REALLY starting to wear thin. I’m also sick of all the talk of moving Prado from the 2 hole like all the double plays he hits into are automatically his fault when it’s the 2 hole guy’s job to MOVE THE RUNNER! IF sorry ass FG would call for a hit-and-run once in a blue moon, MAYBE Prado wouldn’t hit into so many of them! God I hate watching this team so mismanaged!
DawgNole
August 22nd, 2012
12:20 pm
You appear to be heavily outnumbered on here, Quicherbichin. This is my first encounter with your pitiful, hypocritical azz, so I’m just a rookie. Seems pretty obvious that you’ve rubbed quite a few others the wrong way. It’s past time for you to move on–and quit YOUR “bichin” and whining.
jo killa
August 22nd, 2012
12:22 pm
shutup nat fans go on your own blog the braves are just going through a funk now we will pick it up and make it to the wildcard we will be fine this team is alot better than last years the offense will click soon and the pitching staff has been solid gotta have some faith people dont quit on these guys GO BRAVES!
Sickened
August 22nd, 2012
12:22 pm
I’ll believe Uggla is committed to improving his game when he gets out of the bars at 3 in the morning and stops cavorting with women of ill repute. Until that happens, I want to see him elsewhere.
DawgNole
August 22nd, 2012
12:24 pm
BravesFanSince80s
August 22nd, 2012
12:14 pm
I disagree about the slowly part, at least fromt he blog regulars, tons of those guys have defended him when all logic failed. I even had one of them trying to tell me he was a better glove at 2B than Prado, and that hasn’t been that long ago! I agree, it was a TERRIBLE deal that never should have happened.
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I have to admit that I’ve defended him because he seems to hustle in the field and be a team player in the dugout–and he can carry a team when he gets hot at the plate.
I also must admit that it’s getting increasingly difficult to justify keeping him in the lineup.
BravesFanSince80s
August 22nd, 2012
12:27 pm
@sickened: at this point, who cares if he claims to be committed to improving? It ain’t happenening! To finish my thoughts on Bourn and Prado, if Bourn is on 1st and Prado is up against a RH, it should be a MANDATORY hit-and-run!
pat
August 22nd, 2012
12:27 pm
My worries are that we cannot beat teams when we need to. If you ain’t got mojo you have to grind, I am seeing the same listlessness of last year… Pressing at the plate, everybody swining for the fences…I am not going to lie, I am scared of a repeat of last year. If that happens I will demand a total rebuild from top to bottom and from bottom to top. Slumping now is NOT an option.
Too Big To Flop
August 22nd, 2012
12:34 pm
I disagree about Uggla being like Enron and Lehman Brothers. Those two entities went away!!! Dan is more like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in that he will be sustained and kept around because he is deemed too expensive to fail.At this point Wren does not care if he hits 125 and costs us the playoffs–can still happen—because this is his baby and “Darn it!! Dan is gonna hit.”
Fats OKelly
August 22nd, 2012
12:40 pm
Jimmy makes a good point on Uggla being in a year long slump. I have wondered over and over why FG did not bench Uggla long long ago. FG keeps sending him out there and keeps getting the same inept results. Makes me wonder if the Braves owners demand FG play that loser because they have to get their money’s worth out of him. Braves are paying
:)
Babe Ruth like money to Uggla and getting Babe Ruth’s wife stats out of him. Sit him down. Send him a message. I am being a little rough on the ole boy,but I know he hustles but he just aint getting R Done !
Quicherbichin
August 22nd, 2012
12:44 pm
BravesFanSince’80- The team as presently constructed has the ability to win more games than they lose even with Uggla hitting at the Mendoza Line. That much has been proven. Can we catch the Nats? Not unless they hit a cold streak like they haven’t seen all season. Will they? I doubt it. That being said, I don’t have to come on here and complain because someone made an error or so and so threw a gopher ball to some hitter hitting .170 with 3 HR for their entire 8 year career… I support the team, win or lose. Would I prefer that they win? Of course. But if they lose, life goes on. I don’t have the need to come on here and whine about who kicked the ball or who can’t hit or whatever. That doesn’t make me less of a fan than someone that feels the need to do that. I merely come on and call on the ones screaming the loudest to cease whining and believe in their team, win or lose. It seems that those on here whining the most were probably not here to endure the losing of the 70s or most of the 80s even. Winning brings bandwagon fans who will jump off the bandwagon at the first sign of disaster. Most of you people make John Kincade on 680 seem like Norman Vincent Peale.
JMac
August 22nd, 2012
12:44 pm
@pat… might as well not be scared and face the truth of the matter, and that is that not only is it going to happen, it has already started, and everyone’s hero, Chipper Jones, sits one out during the most important series of the season. No leadership on or off the field.
Quicherbichin
August 22nd, 2012
12:49 pm
DawgNole- I refuse to leave and especially to be dismissed from someone such as yourself, You may be used to others running from your rhetoric ( look it up) . Your posts make me look forward to Larry’s negativity.
BravesFanSince80s
August 22nd, 2012
12:52 pm
enlighten me on how it’s “WHINING” to ask why your team is still playing a 2B who makes more than any other in the NL and is hitting .208? It’s not like anyone is splitting hairs here sir. The guy has been a terrible signing and yes, we’re having a decent year, but I already pointed out that I’m pretty firmly convinced we wouldn’t be if so many teams in the NL weren’t already starting their off season lifestyles. Check our or record against winning clubs vs losing clubs, paints a grim playoff picture. Plus, how is it whining to point out that not playing a guy who is almost an automatic out MIGHT help the team catch the division leader who I’m also pretty convinced is playing beyond their true capabilities and might well fade a little down the stretch? It’s your attitude as much as anything that inflames everyone sir. You make out as though a “true fan” whatever the hell that is, can ONLY say positive things about the club for which they pull, which pretty much everybody else knows is total horse S H I T….
Quicherbichin
August 22nd, 2012
12:58 pm
Fans support the team, win or lose. Whiners complain about things out of their control. Do I like the fact that Dan Uggla is hitting .208? No. Can my expressing the opinion that he should be benched have any effect at all on the moves of Fredi and Frank? No. Do I get tired of seeing negative people complaining about all of the above? Yes! We are not New York. We are not Boston. Support your team, win or lose, and keep your complaints to yourselves!
PA Brave
August 22nd, 2012
1:00 pm
Will the Braves FIRE FFG after another late-season debacle? I doubt it.
BravesFanSince80s
August 22nd, 2012
1:01 pm
Fans support the team and are will within their rights to say if the team does something stupid like playing Dan Uggla night after night douche bag, take a hike!
Quicherbichin
August 22nd, 2012
1:05 pm
I see your point as well as that of DawgNole. It would be like the AJC paying each of you to voice your opinions here. And just as viable. Thank Goodness for DOB and Carroll Rogers!
DHD
August 22nd, 2012
1:07 pm
It’s official. Washington is the best team. We can hope to get into the playoffs where the best team doesn’t always win. History supports that.
Quicherbichin
August 22nd, 2012
1:11 pm
and now, the roster of the AJC Braves blog, with comparison to comparable Braves..
BravesFanSince80s- Darrell Chaney
DawgNole- Pat Rockett
Jimmy – Frank Tepedino
Larry- Glenn Hubbard
More later-
steve
August 22nd, 2012
1:12 pm
I hate to say I told you so but F.G. once again makes a bad managerial decision by pitching to Flores who for whatever reason we cannot get out, blows up once again with a 3 run homer, just another ad decision which costs us the game, then he sits on his as- in the dugout hoping for a 3 run homer when our offense is struggling instead of utilizing Prado in the 2nd hole by hitting and running when Bourne is on base in front of Prado which is why we hit into too many double plays,, cannot win with F.G. because he really doesn”t manage this team, he only makes out the lineup and hopes it works out, does not make the tough decisions by benching players that are in slumps , Reed Johnson should be playing more as his numbers are good bth R.H and L.H.
Ken Stallings
August 22nd, 2012
1:14 pm
There seems to be a reluctance on the part of many commentators in this blog to give the Washington Nationals their earned level of respect. One blogger said the pitching staff of the Giants is better. Not even in your dreams!
The Washington Nationals rank number one in all of baseball in ERA, quality starts, batting average against, and number two in walks and hit per innings pitched! No one in baseball is better in pitching!
Since the Nats added Bryce Harper to their lineup, they have a better group of regulars than most team, and likely the Braves.
The Nats have a bullpen almost as good as the Braves, which is widely viewed as the best bullpen in baseball. But, if your hitters can’t dent the plate what good is the bullpen going to do for you?
Accept facts people: The Nats are a better team than the Braves. The Nats may well be the best team in baseball, better than the Yankees even because they have a better pitching staff by a wide margin than do the Yankees.
The only way the Nationals can mess up a shot at winning the 2012 World Series is sitting down Strasburg, which their GM insists he’s going to do! That’s a self-inflicted wound of epic preportions. Even without Stasburg (who may well be their second best pitcher this season) the Nats still have a superior group of starting pitchers, and a very good bullpen. They can still go deep in the playoffs without Strasburg in their rotation.
The Braves are playing for the Wild Card in 2012. Like I wrote yesterday, with the Nats in the same division, playing for the Wild Card is nothing to be ashamed about!
harry taylor
August 22nd, 2012
1:15 pm
Quicker: Support your team, win or lose, and keep your complaints to yourselves!
My oh my, now our freedom of speech is gone.
BravesFanSince80s
August 22nd, 2012
1:16 pm
Steve, the scouting report on Johnson is that he CAN’T play every day anymore with his back issues. Calling Constanza back up would make more sense and just work Johnson in as much as he can stand it…
DHD
August 22nd, 2012
1:17 pm
Why do people STILL spell it “BOURNE?”
DawgNole
August 22nd, 2012
1:32 pm
Quicherbichin
August 22nd, 2012
12:49 pm
DawgNole- I refuse to leave and especially to be dismissed from someone such as yourself, You may be used to others running from your rhetoric ( look it up) . Your posts make me look forward to Larry’s negativity.
Quicherbichin
August 22nd, 2012
12:58 pm
Support your team, win or lose, and keep your complaints to yourselves!
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You can “refuse to leave” all you want, but it’s too late; you’ve ALREADY been dismissed by many on here–and for good reason.
And as I pointed out earlier, you represent the ultimate in hypocrisy: It’s fine for you to whine, but the rest of us must “keep your complaints to yourselves!” Yeah, right.
You are the purest definition of a loser, and like all losers, you don’t see it–despite it being pointed out to you repeatedly by others on the blog.
You’re dismissed again.
Carl Farvman
August 22nd, 2012
1:36 pm
“From what the guys on the Braves beat for local radio have to say, I have figured out that the problem is the Braves have too many fantastic players and too much superb managing and coaching. I have to admit that my untrained eye had not picked up on that until now.”
The reason for this is that they want to hang with these guys, along with keeping their places in the free buffet line.This is the way it works here. In case you hadn’t noticed this isn’t a hard-hitting sports media market. These guys are just hanging out with sports celebrities and T&Eing drinks and food….if it’s not already free. Fun stuff.
Carl Farvman
August 22nd, 2012
1:38 pm
Calling Constanza back up would make more sense and just work Johnson in as much as he can stand it…
And it would remind me of Seinfeld…..
BravesFanSince80s
August 22nd, 2012
1:40 pm
DawgNole, he he he
Carl Farvman
August 22nd, 2012
1:42 pm
“Fans support the team, win or lose. Whiners complain about things out of their control. Do I like the fact that Dan Uggla is hitting .208? No. Can my expressing the opinion that he should be benched have any effect at all on the moves of Fredi and Frank? No. Do I get tired of seeing negative people complaining about all of the above? Yes! We are not New York. We are not Boston. Support your team, win or lose, and keep your complaints to yourselves!”
How boring would this thread be if we all just sounded like the radio/TV nitwits?
BravesFanSince80s
August 22nd, 2012
1:43 pm
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BravesFanSince80s
August 22nd, 2012
1:45 pm
Priceless Carl, and nice on the Seinfeld quip by the way:)
Quicherbichin
August 22nd, 2012
1:50 pm
Harry Taylor.. you’ve been added to the roster.. but I had to go to the Cardinals for a player to fit your stature in the blogosphere… Eddie Gaedel,
Quicherbichin
August 22nd, 2012
1:53 pm
DawgNole- You find yourself to be the height of wit.. Personally, for you, I add the capital T in front, revealing your true self.. the height of Twit,
BravesFanSince80s
August 22nd, 2012
2:08 pm
anybody seen a lineup posted yet?
JMac
August 22nd, 2012
2:13 pm
@carl… radio nitwits – that is exactly what you sound like. Just what are “fans” supposed to sound like? Oh, we love that Uggla is not even hitting his weight, and that Ole Chip took a day off in an important series, or how much we love the way BMac allows stolen bases. Riiiiiight. Give me a break. Fans have the right to and should vent their frustrations just as much as they do their happiness when things are going great. Forget the playoffs however, because they will not make it; the great slide continues.
S.F. girl
August 22nd, 2012
2:24 pm
To Ken Stallings:yes, the Nationals have turned their club into one of the best this season. But, despite losing Brian Wilson, our closer for this entire season, & Lincecum having a terrible 1st half, I Wouldn’t trade Any of our pitchers For Yours. Giant’s have excellent pitching,& excellent hitters. We beat LA & R going 4 a Sweep today. Matt Cain had a Perfect Game. None of your pitchers had that. Barry Zito has had an awesome season, as has Bumgarner,Vogelsong, & Lincecum was Awesome Beating LA last night. Buster Posey should get Player of the Year. Oh, & we have Pence! Pablo Sandavol,Angel Pagan, Blanco, Theriot, & others,with a great Bullpen. The Giants R Hot right now,& we beat the Braves 2 out of 3 games in Atlanta last time we played. We WON the World Series in 2010, when a lot of people said we couldn’t. So, Underestimate us, we love it as we keep on winning! Oh, and FANS? We are the Best Fans in Baseball as we sell out our stadium win or lose every year! And over 100 SF fans Travel to all of their games! And 1 more Fact For You the Giants have more players in the Hall of Fame Then Any Other Team in Baseball! As for the Braves,they do need a new coach, & new, younger, players. Freddie is a horrible manager. But, we always loved our Giants no matter what and after al these years we are getting rewarded. See you Braves in San Fran! & enjoy our city, it is really a beautiful place.
Brooks Conrad
August 22nd, 2012
2:45 pm
Thank you Mr. Uggla for making the fans forget about me and my blunders……….at least I didn’t bankrupt the team with a rediculous contract……………..
….and then cost us the season two years running….
Brooks Conrad
August 22nd, 2012
2:47 pm
Wonder why I call him “Mr.” Ugga and not Danny like Fredi does?
Well if you haven’t noticed take a look at his arms and chest ……………no way is that dude going to run old Brooksy down….
Bob Horner
August 22nd, 2012
2:50 pm
Quitcherbitchin – What’s with all of the blue sky. Please recognize that this is the biggest series of the season so far, and the Braves looked stupid – again. Does this not wearrant some venting from the fan base? Being a real fan means that you have such an investment in watching your team night after night, that poor performances shake you on an emotional level. It ain’t all hummingbirds and butterflies fluttering out of our butts, Mister Blue Sky. If you don’t recognize how big a series – and how monumentally awful we look – then that’s your business. But don’t be ripping guys for stating the obvious – which is how overmatched and sorry the Braves look right now.
Go watch some golf and whistle zippetydoodah, you goober.
Scoots
August 22nd, 2012
2:57 pm
I’ve been trying to be patient with Uggla, but the last 2 games have done me in. Let’s not even talk about the defensive choke on Monday night, but last night’s back to back pop-outs by Uggla then McCann in the 9th inning when we had a man on 1st and 3rd with none out – god what a rally killer. Really getting tired of Uggla and his momentum killing ways. Please Fredi, at least give him a few days on the bench to think it over, play Prado at 2nd and Reed in Left – this is getting ridiculous
BravesFanSince80s
August 22nd, 2012
3:01 pm
Bob I actually busted out laughing! Too funny!
BravesFanSince80s
August 22nd, 2012
3:04 pm
sending him to AAA for a couple weeks and bringing up Costanza woulod send a better message
BravesFanSince80s
August 22nd, 2012
3:04 pm
would*
Brooks Conrad
August 22nd, 2012
3:12 pm
Don’t think you can send Uggla down….out of options you know…
Plus you know the brain trust is going to play Fredi’s boy every night since they’re paying him $13 mil…..
…………even if he takes the team down with him…..
DawgNole
August 22nd, 2012
3:12 pm
Bob Horner
August 22nd, 2012
2:50 pm
Quitcherbitchin – What’s with all of the blue sky. Please recognize that this is the biggest series of the season so far, and the Braves looked stupid – again. Does this not wearrant some venting from the fan base? Being a real fan means that you have such an investment in watching your team night after night, that poor performances shake you on an emotional level. It ain’t all hummingbirds and butterflies fluttering out of our butts, Mister Blue Sky. If you don’t recognize how big a series – and how monumentally awful we look – then that’s your business. But don’t be ripping guys for stating the obvious – which is how overmatched and sorry the Braves look right now.
Go watch some golf and whistle zippetydoodah, you goober.
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Now that post’s right up there with your namesake’s four-homer game back in the day. Nice work. You even spelled Quitcherbitchin’s handle properly, which is refreshing since he obviously doesn’t know how to spell it.
BravesFanSince80s
August 22nd, 2012
3:21 pm
why would Uggla be out of options? he hasn’t been sent to the minors a single time by the Braves…
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
August 22nd, 2012
3:38 pm
I think he was a rule 5 initally (not w/ Bravos) and must stay up or get released
DCHomerInATL
August 22nd, 2012
3:42 pm
Don’t you Braves’ fans work during the day? Seriously. Anyhoo, join me and be sure to watch tonight’s broom game (oops, I meant rubber match). It should be serious fun. Besides, don’t pick on Chipper – even Nats’ fans love that guy.
Scoots
August 22nd, 2012
4:05 pm
Funny – I’m an ATL Homer in DC. And I can multitask. Made it to the game last night – hard to watch, but Strasburg was impressive. Medlen’s going to put us on his back tonight though.
Moylan
August 22nd, 2012
4:07 pm
Another no show. The number of men left on base is absurd. They cannot manufacture runs and that is all the manager. Good news. Real football games start with college next weekend and we can move off baseball season.