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HERE COMES THE JUDGE
August 21st, 2012
7:35 am
MANAGER, MANAGER, MANAGER. NUFF SAID!!!
In DC but luv the Bravos
August 21st, 2012
7:37 am
After reading these comments from Braves “fans” I’m amazed at how easily they forget this team’s stellar record of performance over the last 20 years. The Braves are still a class organization…wish I could say the same for Braves fans. The reality is that these two teams are very evenly matched, and small things can win or lose ball games. The Nats had many chances to put the Braves away tonight, and could very easily have lost this game. I give the Braves credit for playing excellent baseball since the allstar break, yet having little to show for it. Slamming Chipper after what he has meant to this team for so long is unforgivable. Just one man’s view, but give the guy credit — he’s a lock for the HOF.
yellowfever
August 21st, 2012
7:38 am
Fork um, their done.
BRAVELESS
August 21st, 2012
7:45 am
Uggla should have been benched several months ago and replaced by Prado. Yes, Chipper is having a good year at bat but he has no mobility to his right or left. With Chipper gone from the payroll next season and if they can unload Uggla then the Braves should be able to get some younger players who can contribute both offensively and defensively. Of course, with a new manager.
SESports
August 21st, 2012
7:46 am
We need a second baseman that can field and hit for average too.
Atlanta is a good Team
August 21st, 2012
7:47 am
I’m a Nats fan and I gotta tell you that I think some of the Atlanta fans are being WAY TOO HARD on the Braves. Oh my!! You have one of the best 5 clubs in MLB. Nats had 100 games lost 2 of the last 3 years.
Enjoy your Team. And to pound on Chipper for the 13th yesterday is truely “nuts” by some of you. Your disrespect to your Team is shameful. I know must Braves fans wish they won, but really, most of these comments are sad.
To any Nats fans here to gloat, stick it in your ear.
reebok
August 21st, 2012
7:47 am
The Braves may back into the playoffs, but they are certainly not going to survive a series, or likely even win a game. The Braves can’t contend with the good teams.
Carl Farvman
August 21st, 2012
7:51 am
“Is this loss really a “stunner” when they knew it was coming?”
Yeah, I agree. I read this and thought how can losing a game in extra innings that had it tied up for many innings prior be a stunner. ‘Stunner’ suggests that somehow the Braves had a God-given right to win the game and it got away from them. Nit picking, I suppose, but it caught my attention because it wasn’t accurate. Should have been: Braves lose a heartbreaker in extra innings……
Newnandawg
August 21st, 2012
7:54 am
Sit Uggla, then trade him for a bag of balls. He’s a defensive liability AND a strikeout wizard.
Put Pastornicky at 2B and at least the defense will improve.
THERE GOES THE JUDGE
August 21st, 2012
7:55 am
Take away the manager’s sunflower seeds…that seems to be the only thing he’s doing in the dugout!!! The hitting coach…lost in space – the pitching coach…no clue – the bullpen coach…maybe just a little whoo rah. Its obvious that the Braves cannot hang with the top teams; went to the Dodgers game (only team that played) on Saturday…back to back to back HRs…wasted my time.
Carl Farvman
August 21st, 2012
7:57 am
“The Braves may back into the playoffs, but they are certainly not going to survive a series, or likely even win a game. The Braves can’t contend with the good teams.”
This is obvious and, yet, it applies to several playoff bound teams every season. So I guess you just enjoy it and ride it out. Many teams will be sitting at home watching on TV. You could make an argument that, perhaps, they’ll pull off what the Cards did last year, but the character and chemistry is not there for the Braves. Stupid tweets,starting pitchers calling out players, and on and on and on. Aint gonna happen with this bunch.
Charlie
August 21st, 2012
7:58 am
Same old CHOKE JOB BRAVES, as last September. Hudson talked about how great the pitching was. That’s true IF YOU EXCLUDE TIM HUDSON, who spit out 4 runs in the first inning. That’s Hudson, proving, as is often the case, that he chokes early, when the game is particularly big. Tim Hudson is not an ace. He’s a #4 starter at best, especially on the big game stage.
Chipper played, not HOF, but as a 40 year old. He looked every bit a choke artist as well…lousy ab’s, with runners on base, lousy decisions in the field.
Uggla is the ultimate CHOKE JOB. This is his second year wearing that crown. Can’t hit. Choke job. Can’t make the big plays in the field. Watching WORTHLESS DAN juggle and choke the baseball and the game was classic WORTHLESS DAN UGGLA.
The braves had so many chances to take a lead late, BUT COULD NOT. Not a clutch hitter on this team. NOT A SINGLE ONE. ZERO.
But then, many of these guys were part of the September, 2011 team…the biggesty CHOKE JOB TEAM in Braves / baseball history.
BUT, Fredi is proud of them…and why not? He has proved to be the stupidest manager in MLB. He proved it last year, and continues to hand out more of the same. He is the perfect manager for this group. They deserve each other. LOSERS LOSERS LOSERS….
reality
August 21st, 2012
7:59 am
Everybody is so mean and nasty over a baseball game… one you didn’t even pay to see! Were you not entertained? That was a good meaningful game. With our budget the Braves could easily be the Astros… count your blessings that these games actually matter.
tennisbrave
August 21st, 2012
8:01 am
Same ole Braves – they’re just choking a little early this year rather than wait till September.
Double Zero Eight
August 21st, 2012
8:06 am
Apparently no one can make Uggla cut down
on his swing with two strikes. Fredi should
make him bunt in that situation.
Even a little league player would have known to
throw to home plate in that 13th inning debacle.
I hate to admit it but the Nationals “own” the Braves.
We should put our sights on winning the wild card
spot..
Gym Nash
August 21st, 2012
8:07 am
Braves fans, welcome back to the 1970s. Yikes, this team is bad.
Kent716
August 21st, 2012
8:07 am
Putting aside the fielding lapse, it was painful to watch Uggla, with a man in scoring position, take a strike right down the middle, swing at a pitch in the dirt, and then take strike three at the knees. He watched two strikes in that at bat and swung at the only ball. Time for film study.
George
August 21st, 2012
8:09 am
Do not know how to WIN.
Big Al
August 21st, 2012
8:09 am
Why is everybody so upset? Dis be dah Braves in their annual skid. Nothing new, just same song, another verse.
clt brave
August 21st, 2012
8:20 am
was a great game–really really sorry the Braves lost it. We left way too many men on base. Not to “pile on” BUT, IF FG had made the decision to send his All Star second baseman to Gwinnett for a few weeks of rehab then Dan wouldn”t have been in the position last night of: A) LOOKING at strike three in the ninth with two men on in a TIE GAME B) making an error that cost us the game in the 13th. This is why i have not been back to Turner Field in 2012 and have no plans to do so. Hey, DOB, WHEN is someone gonna talk to FG ON CAMERA about the Uggla situation? STAT UPDATE: Dan is O N E for F I F T E E N in last 4 games!!! Batting .192 since the All Star break. For the season, .210 MAYBE when he slips below the Mendosa line FG will sit him for a day or two….
drew
August 21st, 2012
8:22 am
Uggla couldn’t field the ball and the ball can’t find his bat. Oh yeah..someone please pay me $12 million a year to act like a little league player – PLEASE !
Nurse Ratched [aka Randal Patrick McMurphy]
August 21st, 2012
8:22 am
Collapse of the Bumbling Braves – Redux 2012… started right about this time for last seasons debacle…
I can see ol’ Havana Fats now… nervous, sweaty & agitated. Can’t figure out what to do next. He’ll fly in ever tightening concentric circles until he flies right up his own Keister. And when it’s all said and done, the apologists within the brain trust of Braves organization will be in full Damage Recovery mode… and somehow, that Idiot will be occupying the managers office next season. It’s just ALL too predictable…
jerry
August 21st, 2012
8:28 am
I never see anything from management as to what they think Uggla’s problem is. Apparently they don’t have any more of a clue than he does and they are comfortable with him going 11 for 150 and striking out 160 times if he can just hit 30 home runs.
Vesaversa
August 21st, 2012
8:31 am
Uggla have been a huge disappointment for the Braves every since they inquired him from the Marlins . Here we go again Chokeaphobia
GaryinBham
August 21st, 2012
8:35 am
1. Dawg Dad has it right. This is a very good team, but not yet a great one. We are probably right where our experience level of young guys and the ability and remaining skills of our vets are
2. We might make the playoffs, not likely to advance far, but who knows? If we bounce out of the one-game deal, I won’t be shocked. We are not yet a top 5 team, but the talent ahead is impressive. Can’t wait to get Simmons and Beachy back and Teheran up.
4. Hate how we are falling short right now, but am REALLY enjoying watching Jason Heyward man up in front of our eyes. He is, as predicted, something special. He’s putting it all together.
5. From an objective viewpoint, I am glad for the Washington fans to have so much to cheer about. I want to shut their team out the next two games, but they have suffered with this team a long time, and it has all come together for them this year. Good for them. Let’s beat them today. Go Braves!
Remembering 1991
August 21st, 2012
8:36 am
Tim and others, I DO stand behind the Braves, as I’m sure most people on this thread that are taking the time to watch the game and then comment. However, that doesn’t mean we don’t have the right to criticize poor or sloppy performance.
I can’t believe that Tim Hudson actually said “the pitching did its job.” WHAT??? Is he really suggesting that he had a successful day on the mound after giving up 4 runs before the 6th batter came to the plate???? Nowadays these guys and their manager seem to call it a succss when a pitcher consistently (3 out of 3 times against Nats) gives up first inning runs. Add to that, sporatic hitting with RISP and you have streaky baseball.
We love and support our team, but they make a helluva lot of money to perform…and they should start doing it, or they will find themselves losing the wild card to either LA or SF and St. Louis
Roger
August 21st, 2012
8:46 am
Our play is not Little League caliber. It you’ve been watching the Little League World Series, you know that they’ve actually been playing better than the Braves.
B. A. Miller
August 21st, 2012
8:50 am
saw the play the teams problem is an old man who can’t run but can hit and occasionally makes a play at 3rd this team needs to bring some kids up and take their lumps and start over
alex
August 21st, 2012
8:56 am
@garyinbahm, agree with #4 and 5, JH has been fun to watch
As for anyone critical of the complainers;WHY accept mediocrity from a player or a manager;accept it in yourselves, but in MY office you are FIRED!
Candide
August 21st, 2012
8:56 am
DC-area Nats fan here. Don’t understand some of the hating going on here. Let me tell you, here in Our Nation’s Capital, NO ONE thinks the Braves are a bad team and NO ONE thinks we have it all locked up. Our Nats have won something like 20 out of their last 26 games and the only team in the NL East that hasn’t hoisted the white flag is the Braves.
For anyone who thinks it’s all over, I have only two words: 1964 Phillies.
weiserthanu
August 21st, 2012
9:03 am
I wish you had to pass a Baseball IQ test to p[ost on this blog. This game was not lost in the 13th inning. It was lost in the 8th, 9th and 10th and 11th innings when the Braves got 6 walks and scored NON of them. The clutch hitting, or lack thereof, was the reason for this loss. There should not have even been a 10th-13th inning.
JohnS
August 21st, 2012
9:03 am
In a game you have to win, your best reliever does not make it into the game. That is the most ridiculous thing about last night’s game. The concept of saving your closer for a save situation here is criminal misuse of resources. Still we are talking about Fredi here.
phil
August 21st, 2012
9:05 am
Excuses, excuses….
Time’s running out.
TN Jeff
August 21st, 2012
9:06 am
Wondering if the Braves are gonna go ahead and implement the Epic Collapse Part 2 now rather than waiting til the end of the season when it is more glaring?
phil
August 21st, 2012
9:07 am
B. A. Miller
August 21st, 2012
8:50 am
saw the play the teams problem is an old man who can’t run but can hit and occasionally makes a play at 3rd this team needs to bring some kids up and take their lumps and start over
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Another blogger with manure for his brains…..bring up some kids? Watch a few more games than just this one.
Train Wreck Bystander
August 21st, 2012
9:07 am
Look at it this way:
The Braves went toe to toe for 12 innings with the best team in baseball last night.
Would I have liked to seen a Braves victory? Sure!
Did I hate to see the game come down to a 13th inning brain fart? Yep. But we all have them from time to time.
It’s not all doom and gloom. This morning, the Braves have the 5th best record in both leagues of baseball.
You people really amaze me sometimes.
DCNative55
August 21st, 2012
9:07 am
Agree with the other Nats fans who have posted (except for the obnoxious trolls) – no one in DC is counting out the Braves. These are two evenly matched teams, and the next two nights should provide some of the best baseball of the season. I think the division race is going to be a white-knuckler for both of us the rest of the way. Even ESPN is having to pull themselves away from their Yankees-Red Sox fetish and pay attention to our division race!
harry taylor
August 21st, 2012
9:10 am
Such a screwed up team and DOB making excuses for Chipper and the team(DOB has to keep his job, can’t tell the real truth). Chipper is like a lumbering 18 wheeler. Never been known for defense. Uggla worked his charm and got the error changed. What a team. Uggla bats .213 and strikes out 143 times or so this year. And then he can’t field a ball. What the h ell do they need Uggla. A MASCOT. I suggest a GOAT. But I don’t know of any goats making that kind of money. SHEEESSSH!!!!
Natstoyou
August 21st, 2012
9:10 am
Wow, you Braves fans need to calm down. 6 games out with over 40 to play. Last year means nothing. I love the Nats, but they are untested and swimming in uncharted water (for them). Strasburg will be shut down soon and the Braves have 5 more games against us. It’s still anyone’s division. Enjoy the fact you have a contender. Hasn’t been one in Washington since 1933!
Gene in Columbia
August 21st, 2012
9:14 am
Gonzalez is afraid to make any changes. C. Jones knows he will receive nothing but adulation no matter what mistakes he makes. Uggla needs a vacation. McCann at least is trying. Seems like his vision is still a problem. Bottom line – lost a game should have won.
Prediction – Braves won’t catch anybody. Watch out for St. Louis.
Gene in Columbia
August 21st, 2012
9:15 am
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Lobosolo
August 21st, 2012
9:18 am
alexis, you, like the rest of these fans, are just too plain pussified to watch baseball… Puss-sters, “your” team is playing lights out baseball since the break and are perched in the top five of all baseball… If you pricksters could watch a little more ball, different teams, read a book on the game, or ANYTHING to become more aware, by all means DO IT… The Braves are at or near the top in fielding in the whole league… THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN, EVEN TO THE BEST OF TEAMS, EVERY YEAR, EVERY SEASON… The stretch run is not for crybabies… The Braves are among the best, “your” team… Y’all can’t handle it… take up knitting, or something close… this game is not for you girly whimps… alexis, you have got to be the biggest smartass blubberer around, with absolutely zero bonifides to back it up… one thing for sure, there is no mediocrity in you when it comes to being a total asswipe…
Chief pitchanono
August 21st, 2012
9:22 am
Gotta forget it and go get em tonight. The nl east is on the line the next two nites. They got us in round one but were not ko’d just yet. That was a great game but tough loss. Dont hang your heads boys gotta keep on fightn. If we can leave washington 4 games back i like our chances. We got three more with these guys at our place and these guys have some tough series left with the phills and cards. These guys are gonna hit a little bump in the road before its over but have to be close enough to take advantage. Go Braves!!!!
Flo-Rio-Duh
August 21st, 2012
9:23 am
Nationals are in a different class. Braves can only beat the bottom feeders. Wild card for the Braves – maybe. One and done.
Jo
August 21st, 2012
9:24 am
Guys, what is all the stress for? Has anyone not noticed that it is late August and time for the Braves to do a great swoon again? The Braves will finish with about 88 wins and 4 games off the mark of the wildcard and really it doesnt matter anyway. As a Braves fan I am big enough to say this team is not going to beat a good team in the playoffs. Pitching is losing steam a bit and the hitting will fall back off to mediocre. NO stress….just mediocre.
anti-negative guy
August 21st, 2012
9:27 am
Never seen so many ignorant bastards on a blog before. Biggest bunch of A-holes I’ve ever seen!!!!! Very few Braves fans here!!!!!!!!
areyoukiddingme
August 21st, 2012
9:28 am
Dan Uggla please do braves team and their fan a favor, injure yourself that way fredi gonzoles (who secrelty has man crush on you and thts the reason you are still playing) can replace you with minor league 2nd base kid and i garuntee that kid will have better offense and defense than you
bananajacket
August 21st, 2012
9:30 am
Amazing blogs! Wren can’t evaluate talent. Players are lazy, can’t field or hit and don’t care. We are a terrible team. It is obvious that most bloggers on here have never been on a team or in a locker room (at least not for any amount of time). Wonder what the Nats fans were saying when they failed to score time after time (even with bases loaded) against this awful team)? Please take a breather and appreciate what you have—-an above average team that is not quite championship quality. The best team does not always win anyway—-look at St. Louis last year.
harry taylor
August 21st, 2012
9:30 am
Just the truth, man. Tell it like you see it. Time to choke again.
JNick
August 21st, 2012
9:32 am
Love seeing all the haters on here after a Braves loss (sarcasm)
I was at this game, sitting about 10 rows back from the Braves dugout, if anyone has any questions. As for the Werth double in the first, Chipper was playing off the line and it ticked off the end of his glove as he went for it.
The whole night was weird. Game started an hour late (for no reason…it barely rained, even though there were dark clouds all around the stadium). Just a weird vibe in the air. First inning, the only hard-hit ball was the HR. Heywards HR was a laser – one of the hardest hit balls I’ve ever seen. The sound of the ball coming off his bat when he squares up on one is just electric. You can almost smell it.
Nats had a bunch of cheap hits and the umpiring crew was pretty awful (many bad calls against the Braves, mostly on check swings – on that note, Freeman has me a little worried, he was check-swinging all night). Bourn looked awful at the plate for the most part – he sure does strike out a lot.
Nats stadium overall is decent, fans are annoying, and the food isn’t impressive (while being seriously overpriced). Nice to see Chipper one last time before he goes off into the sunset.
GRAPHITE
August 21st, 2012
9:35 am
When are all of you good folks going to learn that the annual nose dive is in the DNA of Atlanta. It’s time for football now,and the Falcons will dissapoint us as usual,not to mention the birds,I mean Hawks.Save your money,go fishing.
JNick
August 21st, 2012
9:35 am
….and I’m pretty sure the Braves still have the 4th best record in all of baseball…
hunter55
August 21st, 2012
9:36 am
The reason players like playing in Atlanta, soft manager that will not hold players accountable and a media that is flat out lap dogs. In the northeast Uggla would be crucified for his play this year.
Ken Stallings
August 21st, 2012
9:36 am
Looks like the resident basement dweller posted under seven different forum ID’s last night! I wish Gonzalez would stop criticizing his players so much in the media. Bobby Cox would not do that. In truth, Uggla had no play — at least not a play that would have prevented the loss. His only true play was throwing to first, because with one out and the runner breaking for the plate from third, there was zero chance to throw to home and record the tag out. No chance at all. If you look at the replays, by the time Uggla started to transfer the ball to his throwing hand, the runner was about to start his slide.
What Uggla then tried to do was run to tag the runner standing two feet off first base and then flip to Freeman at first. However, the ball then ran up his arm as his eyes and mind processed the loss of the play at home. In truth, Uggla had no chance to make the double play either. This is because the runner at first was no moron! He was smart enough to handle his part of the play correctly. Had he taken another few steps to second, Uggla could have made a quick tag (vice run him down) and then had the time to flip to first to record the force out.
What I criticize Gonzalez for is that this double play was the most likely option for Uggla, but it was taken away by smart base running by the Nationals. A quick throw to home would have “looked good,” but would have been late. I suppose none of the basement trolls would have anything negative to say about Uggla, but the game would have gone down just the same way.
As I posted in the other thread, this is baseball people! If you truly cannot understand the nuances of the game, then stop calling yourself a fan of the game! Uggla did not “lose” that game on that final play. He contributed to the loss by unproductive plate appearances with runners in scoring position, but was hardly alone in that regard! Uggla did at least record a double.
The Nationals also squandered many opportunities to win the game. I guess that has something to do with good defense and good relief pitching, but also something to do with the random nature of the sport of baseball. The hardest hits balls were outs and it took two weak grounders with eyes to set up the Nationals win. Again, that’s baseball. Sitting around like a chump and posting stupid commentary under an alias does nothing but reveal stupidity.
I wish the AJC would do some IP address searches and get rid of these morons who troll here!
Chief pitchanono
August 21st, 2012
9:38 am
And i hate to say it but some of these nats fans are rite. We gotta appreciate the fact that we have a good team and were able sit here on this site every year haveing the same conversation about games that actually mean something in late august and september. The only thing that changes is the team were trying to chase down. The last few years its been the phills and now its the nats but the one constant is allways the braves. Were fighting for first place every year and theres allot to be said for that.
Hock a Homa
August 21st, 2012
9:39 am
Should of went for the double play Fredi . in the 13th. Any other coach would have back up the infield and turned.
two I don’t understand your thinking. you were out coached again.
Davey Sprocket
August 21st, 2012
9:40 am
@Big Ron 6:55am – Except you are totally incorrect that the Nats spend big bucks, while the Braves don’t. The Braves payroll is at LEAST $10M MORE thant the Nats right now. (It may be $20M, actually, I looked it up a couple of months ago, and was startled). Even with Jayson Werth and the new deals for Gonzalez and Zimmerman, they have one of the bottom-third payrolls. Sure, it wil go up as teh youngsters need to get paid, but they are under team controls for quite a while, including all the pitching but Edwin Jackson.
Candide
August 21st, 2012
9:41 am
JNick, I agree that Nats Park overall is decent, the food isn’t impressive, and it’s overpriced. But what is it about Nats fans that you find annoying? At least we don’t sing “Sweet Caroline,” chant “DE-rick JEEE-ter” the way Yankees fans do (though “EEEE-yan DES-mond” probably isn’t far off), and we don’t do anything resembling your REALLY annoying tomahawk chop. Most annoying thing our fans do that I’ve seen is The Wave, and a lot of the pre-bandwagon Nats fans hatehatehate seeing it.
And just before the top of the fourth inning, we always stand and salute the several dozen Wounded Warriors sitting in the seats I only wish I could afford, seats I have to assume the Nats provide gratis.
Frank Wren - GM Extrodinaire
August 21st, 2012
9:46 am
Hi Everyone –
We have the the highest paid errrrrrrrr the best second baseman in the game. We know Uggla’s average was never going to be really high, we got him for his pop. Look at those awesome power numbers! And his fielding never ever costs us games. Man I am a good GM!
Go Braves!
Jay
August 21st, 2012
9:47 am
Ugly SUCKS! He is black hole at the plate and on the field. How many more years of him do we have left?!?!?? Thanks Wren!
mike
August 21st, 2012
10:06 am
The Braves will lose because they are unable to play smal ball. Leaving Prado on second after leadoff double was classic case of this. Not being able to move runners along has been an annual problem for them. Unfortunately uggla and mccann are now pulling them down even more. Do not understand why Prado does not go to second and Johnson to left field. At least give it a shot. Can’t be any worse than it currently is. FG is demonstrating a lack of good management skills. Stubborness will only get the Braves out of the playoffs.
mike
August 21st, 2012
10:06 am
The Braves will lose because they are unable to play smal ball. Leaving Prado on second after leadoff double was classic case of this. Not being able to move runners along has been an annual problem for them. Unfortunately uggla and mccann are now pulling them down even more. Do not understand why Prado does not go to second and Johnson to left field. At least give it a shot. Can’t be any worse than it currently is. FG is demonstrating a lack of good management skills. Stubborness will only get the Braves out of the playoffs.
mike
August 21st, 2012
10:06 am
The Braves will lose because they are unable to play smal ball. Leving Prado on second after leadoff double was classic case of this. Not being able to move runners along has been an annual problem for them. Unfortunately uggla and mccann are now pulling them down even more. Do not understand why Prado does not go to second and Johnson to left field. At least give it a shot. Can’t be any worse than it currently is. FG is demonstrating a lack of good management skills. Stubborness will only get the Braves out of the playoffs.
mike
August 21st, 2012
10:06 am
The Braves will lose because they are unable to play smal ball. Leving Prado on second after leadoff double was classic case of this. Not being able to move runners along has been an annual problem for them. Unfortunately uggla and mccann are now pulling them down even more. Do not understand why Prado does not go to second and Johnson to left field. At least give it a shot. Can’t be any worse than it currently is. FG is demonstrating a lack of good management skills. Stubborness will only get the Braves out of the playoffs.
alanfalcon
August 21st, 2012
10:07 am
Happy to see the Braves fight like they did however one more loss to the Nats and the NL East title is loss, the only thing that matters here is the next two game’s and we need to win both.
Taylor Wooten
August 21st, 2012
10:08 am
I especially liked Chipper’s lame attempt at a ball down the 3rd base line early in the game…a good 3rd baseman would have knocked the ball down and probably made a play. He is a liability in the field at this old age.
Phil F
August 21st, 2012
10:13 am
It’s way past the time to address the Uggla situation. He obviously needs a break. Prado to 2nd, Reed Johnson to left eliminates the Uggla automatic popup / strikeout.
JNick
August 21st, 2012
10:14 am
@Taylor, it wasn’t a lame attempt, he was playing off the line, it was a weird hit ball that hit off the end of his glove. No 3B playing in that position would have made the play. He’s made plenty of incredible plays there this year. The ball was down the line, questionable fair, and had some weird spin on it. Trust me…the play unfolded right before my eyes (literally).
@Candide – appreciated the salute in the 4th…I think it’s many things that make the Nats annoying – but hey, I’m sure every visiting fan feels that way at an away game
I will say it’s much better than being in Philly – but personally, I like going to Baltimore games better. Camden Yards is probably the most underrated stadium in all of baseball.
Larry30
August 21st, 2012
10:22 am
Typical of a braves infield. Mental breakdowns all around. Seems like uggla thought of every scenario except one……throw the lead runner out at home. I remember two years ago in new York when McCann followed a runner to first on an infield fly rule play. Chipper dropped the infield fly and the runner on 3rd realized no one was covering home and scored without a play. Hudson said it right but I don’t think he means it like I do, but little league-esque is absolutely right. Mentally, chipper, uggla, and McCann are about as sharp as a pound of wet leather.
Too Tough
August 21st, 2012
10:23 am
Uggla..didnt loose the game in the 13th…he lost at every other bat he had after the first inning…Also, what idiot cant see McCann needs REST! Use Ross, DU needs REST he is killing our hopes with his swinging for the fences every @ bat…Been a Braves fan since the 60’s folks, Im afraid we are done. Uggla is killing us at the plate. Time to give him some off time..Prado at 2nd, Reed LF, and EVERY Player needs Bunt practice!
Davey Sprocket
August 21st, 2012
10:24 am
As a Nats fan, I was completely nervous basically the whole game from the 6th inning on. If you’d like to lament the Braves’ failures to move runners along, or to take advantage of opportunities, you need to see how horrible teh Nats were at those same things. Bases loaded with one out, and swinging at balls in teh dirt?! Popping up with one out and runner on third? Check. Hitting THREE balls that are caught at the wall, when any of them would have ended the evening. Nah, both teams squandered plenty of chances. It was not the umpires and their bad calls (as someone said earlier). Chipper’s defense definitely cost a run or two – he has the range of a typical 40-year old with a bad knee. The double in the first got a LOT of leather, not just “ticked of the end of the glove”. Give credit to the relief pitching on both sides, throw in a handful of overanxious hacking and bad situational hitting, on both sides. Just glad to see the short bullpen of the Braves get all that additional work – perhaps it will show up in teh next two games. Go Nats!
TheAT
August 21st, 2012
10:25 am
another choke for the braves in a big game. It never ends.
JNick
August 21st, 2012
10:28 am
Braves are 4th overall in all of MLB in defense. I hardly think this is “typical Braves infield”. ESPN power rankings list the Braves as #3 behind only the Nats and Reds.
Bunch of crybaby fair-weather haters on here today….
brad james
August 21st, 2012
10:29 am
Prado to 2nd. R. Johnson to left, McCann sits… Ross primary catcher.
JNick
August 21st, 2012
10:29 am
Davey Sprocket, I was 60 feet away from Chipper, it didn’t get a lot of leather. Go find a replay and watch it.
Grandpa gave away his Season Tickets
August 21st, 2012
10:31 am
Hudson keeps burying our butt in the 1st, Uggla is the reason we lose another one. Can’t hit, can’t catch
pdt
August 21st, 2012
10:32 am
We supposedly got Uggla for his great offense, of which we’ve seen zilch. Fredi and the announcers/cheerleaders then spent a lot of time praising his great defense. That would be the defense that lost the crucial game last night. How can it be any clearer — bench him now. Trade him and take the financial loss this winter. Just don’t put him in any game of importance (which is all of them now) ever again.
harry taylor
August 21st, 2012
10:33 am
Ken Stallings:
Just because someone disagrees with you there is no need for a IP search. I am glad we have the perfect analyst for our braves games.
JNick
August 21st, 2012
10:36 am
If it “got a lot of leather” – why wasn’t it ruled an error? And don’t give me a “it was a Nationals scorekeeper” answer.
pdt
August 21st, 2012
10:36 am
Love Hudson’s comment that the pitchers did their job. Well, the one pitching in the first inning didn’t. How many times has Hudson given up multiple runs in the first inning this year? Too many. An ace is supposed to be someone who is reliable. Hudson has moments of brilliance, but you never know when he’s going to blow up. Hardly an ace.
JNick
August 21st, 2012
10:38 am
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=23151653&c_id=mlb
Yeah, terrible defense at third (sarcasm). Again, #4 defense in baseball….get over yourselves, haters. Go cry to your mommas.
Section242
August 21st, 2012
10:38 am
When Simmons returns move Janish to second and cut Uggla. Better defense and a better batting average.
Uggla has been a decent player fro 3 or 4 weeks since we got his the rest of the time has he has been on the Mendosa line.
JNick
August 21st, 2012
10:40 am
@pdt, Hudson made one bad pitch (HR on a hung slider) – the rest of the inning were slap shots (especially Harper’s – what a dribbler) that were just hit in the right place.
Claudell Washington's ghost (and he's not even dead)
August 21st, 2012
10:43 am
forget player’s salaries because even rookies are over paid at 450K plus. That’s just the market for their profession so get over it. if you think it’s unfair you should have practiced more as a kid so you could get better at baseball. go cry somewhere else.
baseball players make errors. fact of life. get over that too. too many of you are fairweather fans. I’ve followed the Braves since Dusty Baker played in the OF. I logged the hours pulling for duds in the 70’s and 80’s, enjoyed the 90’s as much as most of you, and still pull for them today as much as I did then. The Braves are my team, win or lose. Still in the playoff hunt and still one of the best teams in the game. not THE best, one of the best. all it takes is to get hot at the right time. Ask Tony LaRussa and his Cardinals. People talk about how they hate Yankees and Phillies fans. You know what? I absolutely love them (Red Sox too). you know why? because win or lose they cheer their team on as if they were undefeated and the WS trophy was on it’s way to their stadium. Fanatic fans. plain and simple. I respect that. I respect their passion for their team. I have the same for mine.
So, to all you nay sayers out there go pull for someone else. The Braves and true Braves fans don’t need you or that whine you bring.
Jason Bourne
August 21st, 2012
10:43 am
Glad to see someone thinks 1 guy posted under all those names blasting Uggla. If he or she is that good shouldn’t he be employed by the CIA? No, in reality many hundreds of people are sick of Uggla and the deal he signed. The deal may be worse than Uggla’s play. It has become fashionable to say people who despise Uggla’s play HATE him as a person. They are called “haters”, i don’t believe any reasonable person HATES Dan Uggla but are they allowed to express displeasure over his play? I guess not. Because then they are the dreaded “haters” One thing that remains amazing is the perception that Freddi Gonzalez has total control over this lineup card. i don’t believe that for a second. The inimitable Frank Wren made a horrific deal a couple of years ago for a second baseman and this guy at 13,000,000(80,000/game) is not going to sit on the bench this year. maybe next year but not this year. Wren is not going to be stigmatized by having an 80,000 a game bench guy. Freddi WILL play this guy the rest of the year. Does not matter if he hits .167 and costs the Braves a playoff spot, dan Uggla will play. i still believe the Braves are just too good to miss the playoffs ,however, when i hear this talk about “luck” after Washington hits 4 balls to the base of the wall,just in extra innings,it is pretty silly.
The Atom Bomb
August 21st, 2012
10:44 am
Most of those players in Atlanta act like a bunch of amatures. Surely the hitters are near record setting with strikeouts. Can you tell me how that manager call always say that he is proud of the team with they strike out 10 times a game and lose? Oh well, it’s about time they went into their season ending record and disgusting losing streak, isn’t it????
Arizona Brave
August 21st, 2012
10:48 am
The Braves won’t be able to beat the Nats if they continue to play Uggla and McCann.Prado should play second and Johnson in left. Ross should be the regular catcher till McCann gets his eyes and his shoulder fixed.
meg
August 21st, 2012
10:52 am
UGGLA can’t hit, UGGLA can’t throw the ball to Freeman without him having to pull a muscle to reach to catch it, UGGLA can’t make a decision to throw the ball in a game like this, UGGLA can’t catch the ball when it comes to him….is there ANYthing UGGLA can do, other than chase the fans away in droves??? Look at the empty seats at Turner field every night. How long do we have to endure a player that doesn’t show up to play every night?
Deanna
August 21st, 2012
10:53 am
The third baseman always has dibs over the shortstop on any ball he thinks he can get to. Come on hater guys. Didn’t you ever play any ball and learn how this stuff works? I guess not.
UGAly
August 21st, 2012
10:54 am
Ugla has been a mistake. Time to cut the losses and trade him.
ejh
August 21st, 2012
10:54 am
Fredi Gonzalez lost this game for the braves. When Prado led off the 11th with a double and none out, heyward should have bunted him to third. With only one out you have many ways that run from third can score. The pressure is then on the pitcher to make good pitches, because a wild pitch or pass ball means a run. A SacFly could score a run a ball hit through the drawn in infield, a squeeze bunt. There were many ways the braves could have scored if Prado was at third w/less than two outs. Gonzalez managed the situation all wrong. He was trying to play for a big inning instead of try to score the one run for the lead and turn it over to Kimbrel.
Ken Shelton
August 21st, 2012
11:01 am
Appears all my fellow Braves fans who have hung onto great hopes (about like Uggla, held tight to the final ball hit his way, to serve up a loss lol), perhaps we are faced with non-better than hitting the diamond for one game into September, before sending Chipper hanging up his uniform for all eternity. As last night’s loss, found our Bravo’s falling too far back with the Nationals pitching to regain the first place hold, our team with the proud tomahawk chop resided as a permanent fixture in the 1990’s. Now devoted fans we are likely faced with the prospects of playing the new Wild Card format of one game and out, as unlike those fore-mentioned teams of the 90’s we have no Glavine, Maddox and Smoltz, and current starters are a crap shoot to say the least, when facing potential opponents like Clayton Kershaw, Matt Cain, etc. Most of all, to play so many exciting games during 2012 and with sending Chipper off in fashion, obviously this is next to the epic collapse of 2011 as far as total let-down to what could of become a championship caliber Braves team!
Kill the Messenger
August 21st, 2012
11:02 am
Jason–You must be new. Last year this Lou guy came on here early in the year and said Uggla would be a bust based on a whole bunch of reasons. can’t remember them all. he was insistent while majority reamed him out for his stupidity and lack of baseball knowledge. As month after month passed and people on this blog kept revising the month that Dan would finally hit, the level of disgust for Lou grew as he would periodically come on here to remind us that “Dan can’t Play”, it obviously grew into a Hate the Messenger type thing. Now that everybody, except for some fanatics on this blog and people in the Braves Front Office, realizes you couldn’t give Uggla away unless you paid 90% of his salary, it has become the mantra that anyone knocking Dan must be Lou. This in spite of the fact that he would need about 50 computers and assistants all working in harmony to produce all the Uggla vitriol. Just remember, whenever someone criticizes Dan, it must be Lou.
Disbott3000
August 21st, 2012
11:07 am
If they have a special night for Dan Uggla, they should give away Dan Uggla BobbleHAND toys.
joe
August 21st, 2012
11:07 am
Lots of angry Mets and Phillies fans posting their garbage here. Your teams are 19 back, go cry somewhere else.
Go Away Lou
August 21st, 2012
11:08 am
I see Lou is back.
Just a Little Down Year
August 21st, 2012
11:11 am
Hey, at least the Phillies have won more than 1 World Series in the last 50 years. I forgot. You guys hang banners for winning divisions. Our flags fly for winning it ALL. Bunch of choking playoff dogs!
BrandonLee49
August 21st, 2012
11:13 am
If it Weren’ for Jones Ineptness Brain Lapse Not Covering His Base… The Runner would’ve been on 2nd Base Not Third… Blame Uggla all you want… Jones Looked Totally INEPT on the Play Before the Nats Scored the Winning run…
P Rose
August 21st, 2012
11:13 am
If last night’s game was a must-win, then tonight’s is an absolute, do-or-die, GOT-TO-WIN. But after that demoralizing, 13-inning meltdown, Chipper will opt to sit this one out tonight.
P Rose
August 21st, 2012
11:16 am
Forget all the “bench Uggla” talk. Fredi will run Popup arms out there once again tonight, just as he ran Derek Lowe out there again and again down the stretch last season.