2:53 pm August 16, 2012, by David O'Brien
August 16th, 201211:27 pm
yeah void the contract is huge and great idea
DOWN ON THE FARM
HILLCATS lose 1-2 as BLUE ROCKS prevail.
ED SALCEDO [.253 BA] rebounds with a 2-3, 1 SO game with no errors at the hot corner.
TOMMY LaSTELLA hasn’t appeared in a game since July 11th. Injury??
Right now is just a joke though much better than before when it was nothing
August 16th, 201211:29 pm
I like the contract nullification. A team should not be forced to take a cheater with a years layoff back unless he does well enough to deserve it
August 16th, 201211:32 pm
“It started with Medlen. Complete-game shutout. I think he’s more than stated his case to be in the rotation from here on out. Guy just wins ballgames. We know he’s going to keep us in the ballgame
“First complete game and he makes it a shutout, which is outstanding.”
Medlen does not need to go to the ‘pen in favor of Tommy Hanson.
August 16th, 201211:33 pm
how about contract nullification and for 6 months 8 hours a day they have to listen to roseann sing the national anthem
August 16th, 201211:34 pm
“when its sleepy time down South…”
notice the quote marks El Tigre, for both you and hag, who BTW showed up last night for a post.
it would be nice to see a BAS byline once again too
August 16th, 201211:35 pm
I’m a little harder because I hate the cheating for all those guys that didn’t and don’t.
Hate the panzy waste punishments worse. Just our society now unfortunately. Look at college coaches – the Kentucky basketball coach for example – cheat at every school you coach at and then leave for bigger schools and more money before they get caught and leave the schools they cheated for on their own.
Deal with it hard and stop it.
Bandits out GENERAL[ed] by the JACKSON club 5-2.
LF EVAN GATTIS [.250 BA] 1-4, 2 SO.
1B JOE TERDO [.313 BA] 2-4, 1 2B , 1 RBI .
C MATT KENNELLY [.250 BA] 1-3, 1 R, 1 BB.
RHSP JR GRAHAM [L 1-1, 4.13 ERA] 4.1 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 6 SO.
JR takes it on the chin as the offense find the goat’s-horns too heavy to remove from his shoulders.
no matter the crime, that might be construed as ‘cruel and unusual’ punishment under international laws tiger
August 16th, 201211:38 pm
Mixxo has been absent since his anti-social behavior last week…
Cheater punishment should be a year for the first offense and life-time second time. Dang this three strikes BS.
A year suspension for the first one and 2nd one you done would be good
Indeed. It would be excellent!
August 16th, 201211:40 pm
Final updated game story with MORE QUOTES
August 16th, 201211:42 pm
MEDS!! CHIPPER!!! HEYWARD!!!!
Oh really VJ? I wonder what he did wrong
August 16th, 201211:43 pm
well i got my bobblehead version of hoss with the goatee.
saw him go ycketty twice.
saw meds dominate another team.
good luck hanson. because this rotation is jamming.
good luck hanson, you cursed out fredo and roger. good luck.
August 16th, 201211:45 pm
Yesterday the D-BRAVES took the measure of the MARINERS behind the starting pitching of rook LUCAS SIMS and ‘Wild-Thang’ PEREZ.
RHSP LUCAS SIMS [W 2-3, 2.95 ERA] 5.0 IP, 4 H, zeros, 1 BB, 6 SO.
‘LOS PEREZ [H 4,1.75 ERA] 2.0 IP, 1 H, zeros, 2 BB, 4 SO.
2B RON LUNA [.317 BA] 1-4, 1 R, 1 2B , 2 RBI .
Say your prayers
August 16th, 201211:46 pm
yeah I saw haggards post about haggard…hmmm
What’s this about cursing out FG and ROGER?
August 16th, 201211:47 pm
you think macc catches heck around here. if big red goes less then six fear for his life.
Off to bed (hopefully)
August 16th, 201211:48 pm
and I saw the quotes didn’t think about it that way
regarding cruel and unusual – making kids dream about being like a player and watching him fall like that could turn them off from the game…I can’t imagine anything too cruel to do to someone who would risk that
August 16th, 201211:49 pm
bull pen is good and rested…EOF tossed the ball about 10 times tonight other than that and the 6th inning stretching nobody did a whole lot but cheer
August 16th, 201211:50 pm
What’s up with HANSON and cursing out the coaches? First I’ve heard of it.
August 16th, 201211:51 pm
August 16th, 2012
Mixxo has been absent since his anti-social behavior last week…
because i’m a a-hole !!!!
August 16th, 201211:54 pm
If Hanson throws fastballs at 88 to 89 Martinez better start stretching early
August 16th, 201211:56 pm
I was so mad-I was ready to leave the house at 4:30 to make sure we got the bobbleheads – 5:50 the wife finally finished getting ready.
got lucky and got a couple of them so can’t complain too much
August 16th, 201211:57 pm
my guess is Avilan goes in first…neither of them would go more than 3 and we will save cristhian for the l8r innings
August 16th, 201211:58 pm
richbrave – when they told Hanson he was going down he responded with a bad word – he later said it was for the best that he pitched that game…
Braves are 69-49, one game behind Yankees for 3rd-best record in majors. Gained a half-game on idle Nats, still 4 games back.
August 16th, 201211:59 pm
DOB — gut feeling, do you see any chance that Medlen gets sent back to the bullpen? — DAM
After tonight, I’m feeling pretty confident (for first time) that he stays in rotation rest of season and playoffs. Too good and steady in the role.
August 17th, 201212:00 am
“After tonight, I’m feeling pretty confident (for first time) that he stays in rotation rest of season and playoffs. Too good and steady in the role.”
Glad to hear, DOB. Medlen has definitely proved to be a reliable starter.
August 17th, 201212:01 am
Braves are 27-10 since July 5 and a season-high 20 games over .500 at 69-49
August 17th, 201212:06 am
so do we want the pirates/cardinals to stay in a race all year or do we just want the cardinals blown the hell out of the water?
I pick #2
August 17th, 201212:09 am
if hanson is the one who doesnt make the rotation how about the irony – hanson doesn’t get called up in 2009 in favor of medlen then he gets sent to pen (or down) for medlen
August 17th, 201212:10 am
tiger, i am happy for little tiger. his favorite brave.
August 17th, 201212:14 am
uga – yeah good times tonight for sure-plus with him dealing and up by 6 bullpen was very lose (they enjoyed the cookies he brought them)
did you hear about last night?
Tom Boswell’s newest column includes this paragraph:
At the trade deadline, the Phillies and Marlins quit on 2012, dealt away stars for prospects and, in doing so, made themselves less appealing destinations for future free agents. They acted like teams that, in their closed-door heart of hearts, know the next couple of years in the NL East belong to the Nats and Braves. The Madoff-ed Mets, buried under bad contracts, are worse off.
pretty special night at the ted for those that do not get the the chance to see it live.
medlen was outstanding.
barely in trouble all night.
chipper got his due twice.
August 17th, 201212:16 am
uga – HR’s hit all around us but nothing to us- them high $ seats you seat in don’t get that action
August 17th, 201212:17 am
on a side note craig sager was sitting in center field with his family
August 17th, 201212:20 am
tiger, heard he got to stand on first base.
saw he was welcomed by the dugout.
saw the bullpen gave him a huge salute.
had to be a special night for you.
i have pictures of me on ralph garr’s knee. and another picture of me and my father with dusty baker.
August 17th, 201212:23 am
Here’s a pretty good article from the San Diego newspaper. Lots of praise for Chipper.
yeah man it was an incredible night…followed up by tonight which was also awesome
weeks like this remind me why I spend the time/money to do this
tiger, if a memory is worth anything i still remember it. pretty sure little tiger will too.
those are the best memories you can give your child.
August 17th, 201212:24 am
I take lots of photos cause he won’t likely remember much of this (at 4)
August 17th, 201212:28 am
pretty cool they they love little tiger out there in the pen. pretty even cooler little tiger loves baseball.
August 17th, 201212:31 am
I hope so – but if not it gives me lots of stories to tell which aint bad either
August 17th, 201212:33 am
Whe asked if he likes starting or relieving, Medlen said:
“It’s been asked my entire career. I love baseball, I love the game, love everything about it. So I love being able to do all of it at a decent level that we’re at, and I’m just excited for the opportunity.”
Folks, that’s why this guy is slowly becoming my favorite player on this Braves team. Dude just does what he’s asked AND says all the right things. And I believe him when he says it.
Oh….. and he’s kinda good too.
I’m feeling the same way, DOB. He’d definitely be one of my top 3 starters going in a playoff series as of right now, that’s for sure. I’ve been wanting him to start since Spring Training. The guy just throws strikes, knows how to get outs, and gives us a chance to win almost every outing.
And as always, thanks for all the great work covering our Braves!
the fact he is pretty much the bullpen mascot says enough. well done.
Waffle House or Bust
Nice to see the Braves take care of a team they should beat. I talk about how soft Chipper is (and he is) but dude still knows how to swing the bat. Gotta give him credit.
I’m sure Ebay will be flooded with Chipper bobbleheads tomorrow.
August 17th, 201212:34 am
the interaction is funny-they will walk up call him over and talk to him…im not even part of the equation most of the time (except I gotta get out of his way for him to get to the wall)
gotta go register him for fall ball on saturday…and that is really fun
August 17th, 201212:36 am
N8 – welcome to the club man…its so much fun to watch this kid work-watch his face its been a long time since I’ve seen someone love the game this much while playing at this level
August 17th, 201212:37 am
1. Trade Hanson for a big bat to play LF or 3B.
2. Resign Bourn and let Mac walk. He is on the other end of a good career but without offense he is just a fat catcher with no defense.
3. Get something for JJ. We had the chance last season but Wren passed on offers.
August 17th, 201212:39 am
Braves have a +70 run differential in their last 22 games. Arbitrary endpoint, I know, but only 6 teams in MLB have a greater run differential for the entire season, and three of those are +74, +75, and +76.
In those 22 games, they’ve gone 17-5 and outscored opponents 115-45.
August 17th, 201212:40 am
At the same time I don’t want to get lumped into the Tommy Hanson hater club. I actually really like Hanson.
But the Braves have 3 positions to fill going into next year and Prado can only fill one of them. So trading a guy like Hanson might help fill the void in one of them.
The other option would be to just not pick up the option on Hudson. But I seriously doubt that is the path the Braves wll take. Freeing up that cash would allow more money to be available to sign Bourn.
If I had to guess, I believe one of Minor or Hanson will be traded to fill one of those positions. Hanson makes the most sense. Arbitration eligible and the tiny rift over going on a rehab start probably didn’t win him any brownie points.
I suppose they could look to trade Maholm too. But that just doesn’t seem to make any sense to me.
My rotation on opening day next year?
Hudson, Maholm, Medlen, Minor, Delgado. With Teheran and Gilmartin providing some depth if needed until Beachy returns.
I’d trade Hanson. Worst case scenario, the money he’d make in arbitration would be “replaced” with Delgado’s league minimum salary, which also leaves more for Bourn (or another free agent everyday player).
Obviously, this has been a highly enjoyable 3+ weeks.
August 17th, 201212:41 am
I leave you on the 35th anniversary of Elvis Presley’s death with this.
August 17th, 201212:44 am
Have to say that the season he missed, along with the stints of ‘2-3 weeks’ with other knee problems and the months missed during the ‘10 campaign, no way Chip would not be over 3000.
Also have to wonder, if Murph had played on the Braves teams of the 90’s, and teams couldn’t pitch around him the way they did for most of his career, how might his numbers look? Same could be said for Niekro. Dude won 300+ games playing most of his career on absolutely putrid, horrible Braves teams.
August 17th, 201212:46 am
not sure what I would do but I don’t like trading pitching until I can see what it brings me…going to be an interesting hot stove league this year
August 17th, 201212:48 am
next 10 games are going to be really interesting – not likely that important for our playoff drive but just to see how we perform against the potential playoff opponents
August 17th, 201212:52 am
when its sleepy time down south…
August 17th, 201212:53 am
i am going to miss that chipper hop left handed.
August 17th, 201212:54 am
getting old blows.
August 17th, 201212:55 am
Waffle House or Bust
August 17th, 2012
I leave you on the 35th anniversary of Elvis Presley’s death with this.
watching Viva Las Vegas. That Ann-Margret is one little hott 22 year old !
August 17th, 20121:12 am
well we had 23 straight with teams under .500.
we went 17-6.
August 17th, 20121:14 am
got five guys rotating with all good starts and we are bringing in a variable. good luck.
August 17th, 20121:26 am
And another working day has ended – get off early tomorrow (just have to work 10 1/2 straight hours)…
August 17th, 20121:56 am
You’re going to have to turn off the lights in this place tonight. Been traveling and my battery is about gone.
Great win by the Braves tonight.
tiger, lots of great story’s for the little one.
August 17th, 20122:01 am
Hello everyone! Been busy lately, and taking some time outs from the blog. Glad the Braves won tonight. Really like Medlen, and Maholm in the rotation, and think they should not go any where.
August 17th, 20122:06 am
Where do you rank Beachy in rotation, and some one will have to go when Beachy comes back? I say Hanson will be the one going, because I’m a believer in Huddy now. I see Sheets still in the rotation next year. Also think Minor will have a huge year next season.
Janish had the Number 1 Web Gem on ESPN just awhile ago. That surprised me. I didn’t figure they were paying attention to him. Chipper and Meds got love, too.
August 17th, 20122:07 am
Rotation next Year when Beachy comes back
5. Minor. Thats my rotation when Beachy comes back.
August 17th, 20122:08 am
I would keep Janish behind Simmons, when Simmons comes back.
August 17th, 20122:15 am
Also, “If” Francisco keeps making improvements we might not need a 3rd baseman.?
August 17th, 20122:17 am
I’m still thinking he needs to play a full season at 3rd before we make any judgements on him, and he might turn into the power hitter the Braves need?
August 17th, 20122:34 am
Maybe all Wren needs next year is to tweak the bullpen, and bench, but who knows. I would let Francsico be the 3rd baseman next year.
Francisco is showing he can hit now.
August 17th, 20122:41 am
All, have a good one! Good talking, and talk tomorrow after game. Good to see the Braves winning, and the pitching doing much, much, better. Offense don’t know yet? I’am glad to see the offense doing better though……. Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
August 17th, 20123:18 am
Here to correct some thing. Hope the Braves sign Sheets, where would you fit Medlen, because I like the way he pitches to? We all know Beachy will be back in rotation, and most likely Braves will keep Minor in rotation for next year. Interesting all this. If you put Medlen in rotation, Huddy, or Sheets would have to go? Tough call on that one. 1. Huddy, Beachy, Maholm, Sheets, Medlen would be the rotation for me next year, but I like Minor too Tough call……All have a good one! will be a good rotation no matter what. I do think Medlen should stay in rotation. Peace Out.
August 17th, 20125:57 am
those are the best memories you can give your child
Maybe. I talked my Mom into buying me a Goldfish on the way to Fulton County Stadium.
The Pirates. Never forget.
Goldfish was doing the backstroke after the game. My life changed. Do you realize how traumatic it is to have to flush a little goldfish in a downtown Shell Station? I can’t look at a Goldfish bowl without thinking of the damn Pirates! And, Koi Ponds just give me heebee jeebees.
August 17th, 20126:10 am
August 16th, 2012
looks more like he could lose 20 at least….right phil?
Meds keeps me off meds
August 17th, 20126:14 am
16K to see games the previous nights but over 32K to get a bobblehead of a legend that played this week as well. Top it off, deal with Falcon traffic the same night?
Yes Braves fans are a bit quirky when it comes to seeing their guys play.
August 17th, 20126:38 am
We don’t need to trade for an “ace” pitcher. we already have one. Pitching lately has been super,offense looks great. Heyward finally looking like the player we were hoping for and what can we say about Chipper? Gonna really miss that old goat.
August 17th, 20127:10 am
Why aren’t we 40 pver?
August 17th, 20128:03 am
Brian from SC
August 17th, 20128:15 am
I just renewed my baseball-reference Play Index subscription…more good stats comin’ for the next year.
August 17th, 20128:32 am
Would love to see what scoots, nolie have to say about the below. I’d love to see Teheran develop a cutter….
Second Look: Teheran, Lee
By Kiley McDaniel ESPN Insider
Teheran has been a notable prospect since July 2, 2007, when he signed for $850,000 as a 16-year-old from Colombia, earning one of the biggest bonuses in his class. He shot through the minors, was considered one of the top prospects in the game and was knocking on the door of the big leagues with frontline starter upside. Teheran was forced to Triple-A due to the Braves’ early season pitching depth and has struggled enough there (5.05 ERA) that when there was a rash of pitching injuries, Atlanta was forced to trade for Paul Maholm at the deadline.
Teheran got to Triple-A so quickly that he’s repeating the level at 21, an age when many top pitching prospects are still in A-ball or college, so you can forgive his subpar stats in Triple-A this season, given that context. He also checks all the boxes with a long 6-foot-2, 180-pound frame, clean arm action, efficient delivery and excellent deception, and he flashes three above-average pitches with good command. When I saw Teheran recently, he worked 91-94 mph — touching 95 — with a fastball that showed occasional life, and he displayed solid-average command but would lose feel for it at times, usually up in the zone. He backed it up with a 79-82 mph changeup that flashed plus with late tumble, but he also left it up in the zone early, although he spotted it better later in his outing.
The question mark with Teheran is the breaking ball, and the only one he threw for me was a 72-75 mph curveball with 11-to-5 tilt, late bite and depth, but it was often below-average and hung in the zone. He had trouble staying on top of the pitch — it looked a little awkward coming out of his hand, and his arm slot was slightly lower. Norfolk hitters hit Teheran around (4 innings, 8 hits, 6 runs) as his command issues snowballed, and he had trouble getting over his front leg to keep his pitches down.
I saw some similarities with Teheran and Orioles 2012 first-rounder Kevin Gausman, whom I scouted before the draft when he was at LSU. While Gausman has a knockout fastball-changeup combination superior to Teheran’s, he struggled with a curveball that showed promise at times, ultimately opting for a slider that was getting rave reviews pre-draft. From my look, I thought Teheran should use the curve just a handful of times per game to change hitters’ eye levels and try a slider that he may have better feel for.
Teheran faced the same Norfolk lineup again Aug. 14 and shut it down (8 innings, 9 K’s, 1 run), with word from a scout that Teheran started using a slider in that start. I saw one of Teheran’s worst outings, but he still showed No. 2 or No. 3 starter upside, with a chance to be a rotation option next season with continued progress.
Another day, another shutout. The Braves now have a 1.90 ERA over their last 23 games. Almost unfathomable.
August 17th, 20128:34 am
GCL – ORLANDO
Mousekateers take the measure of YANKEES rookies and farm-hands but not with their bats. Only four are earned as the STANKEES lived up to their nickname yesterday by commiting seven……yes, seven errors allowing five unearned runs to defeat them 9-4.
1B ANTHONY NUNEZ [.263 BA] 2-4, 2 R, 2 RBI , 1 SO.
A fifth year pro, it’s pretty much now or never for NUNEZ.
Rookie DH TY TEWELL [.306 BA] 0-2, 2 RBI , 2 SF.
Rookie SS ERIC GARCIA [.237 BA] 2-4.
RHRP ROBERTO ESTRELLA [W 2-4, 6.75 ERA] 5.0 IP, 5 H, 2 R/ER, 0 BB, 9 SO.
Bobby Star has an excellent start with nine SO’s.
LHRP ELVIN GARCIA [SV 1, 4.74 ERA] 4.0 IP, 4 H, 1 HR, 2 R/ER, 0 BB, 4 SO.
August 17th, 20128:35 am
Last night was the third complete game shutout by a Braves pitcher this year, with zero walks allowed. The Braves had only had one such game in the previous ten years.
August 17th, 20128:38 am
I meant to say slider….
August 17th, 20128:40 am
Jason Heyward is hitting .308/.390/.583 in 283 PA’s vs. RHP.
Really hope Wren can get him to ink an extension this winter. Get him and Prado locked up.
My thoughts though you didn’t desire it, TEHERAN continues being a work in progress. His curve hasn’t changed or improved with work, and another option for a breaking ball is in order.
August 17th, 20128:43 am
ChipperisGod (August 15th, 2012 11:45 pm): “Fredi should be worrying about individual statistics of individual players versus individual pitchers, not lefty righty match ups. That should not dictate everything. Some righties hit well off other righties for example. Sure the lefty righty thing is right sometimes, but not always.
“Individual statistics matter a hell of a lot more than just saying who is lefty and who is righty.”
Maybe so, but you rarely have a large enough sample size of individual match-ups to allow you to draw any valid conclusions.
August 17th, 20128:48 am
NATS have a four-game cushion in the loss column due to direct head-to-head play against the BRAVES.
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