2:50 pm August 15, 2012, by David O'Brien
August 15th, 20126:12 pm
King Felix is awesome. Mariners won’t be competitive for years – they need to just ask another team for their 5 top prospects in the offseason & trade him to a contender. He & Verlander are 1a & 1b as far as best pitchers in baseball go in my opinion.
Why would Bourn elect to take less to stay in Atlanta when he finally reached free agency, its not like he has ties to the system
August 15th, 20126:13 pm
Jayson Stark @jaysonst
It sure is! RT @Evan_P_Grant I believe that’s four no-hitters against Tampa Bay since 2009 and, amazingly, 3 perfect games. Is that right?
Maybe this was covered, but Pace, for the last time, Lowe’s $10mil is being considered as part of the team payroll for THIS (2012) year – regardless of WHEN they actually paid it, it’s counted against this year. The money they’re talking about “saving” for this year is the $5mil that Cleveland paid…
ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
1st time in MLB history that there have been 2 perfect games in the same stadium in the same year (Humber, Hernandez)
Where in tarnation did that 6:11PM come from? We got a GA Tech grad on here now?
August 15th, 20126:14 pm
well aint that just perfect….
“Good for Felix Hernandez. He’s been so good for such a bad team, it is nice to see him get some love ”
Dude got love last season when he won the Cy Young award!
nolie: Even so, he had already failed his test. He used something. Admit it. Much like Bonds, he couldn’t keep off of the juice, and then originally didn’t admit it. At least he has admitted it (unlike Bonds), but he was caught, so he had to admit. Bonds didn’t.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
August 15th, 20126:15 pm
I only got to watch the last three outs but holy mother of God, was king Felix dealing……..ending the game with an emphatic called strike three looking on a wicked hook. Felix raised his hands in joy on the mound, and his teammates mobbed him. Pretty cool for the Mariners fans today.
I don’t know, Felix looked a bit chubby last time I saw him on TV. We prolly don’t want him
August 15th, 20126:16 pm
Pretty sure Verlander won the Cy Young in the AL last year, Jay Dubu…
August 15th, 20126:17 pm
nolie, remember, the camera adds 10 pounds…
August 15th, 20126:18 pm
admit what? I did not say that he did or did not use something. I said that he was being technically true when he denied weeks ago that he was gonna be suspended. Braun got out of it, he might have too. and anywat it was just a facetious comment since that was such a big topic
I’m confused. Everyone talked about Felix’ perfect game while it was in progress … and it didn’t affect what happened on the field?
August 15th, 20126:19 pm
Anybody miss me the two days I was gone? Go ahead and say it y’all. “Were you gone?” I noticed the Braves “eeked” out another win, while those “Nasty Gnats” lost. It will take about 10 more of those
were you gone? Gee I thought things were a bit better…..
August 15th, 20126:20 pm
Bourn, six to eight years, at least 150-160 million. No way can the Braves fit 20 plus million per season for one player into their 90 million dollar payroll.
August 15th, 20126:22 pm
JNick…that’s correct. 2010 that Felix won it. Years passing by quicker than I realized.
Paragraph 2: “with their middle-of-the-pack payroll”
Why does a top 6 or 7 TV market have a middle of the pack payroll?
answer that, and you might be finding the answer to Bourn or Prado or why our bench has been so poor over the last several years.
Small market teams with a higher payroll: (and it’s not close)
Milwaukee, Minnesota, St. Louis, Miami (pre-fire sale).
Dude (Felix) got love last season when he won the Cy Young award!
He actually won in 2010…. Verlander won it last year
nolie: You can look at it that way, but in my opinion, he used steroids and tested positive… he knew it was coming…. No reason to expect to get out of it.
August 15th, 20126:24 pm
Perfection can only be achieved by those striving to attain a 100% success rate, each and every day of their life. For 99.9% of the human race perfection is unattainable, and is decided more by luck than skill. As any baseball player will inform you, “I had rather be lucky than good.”
August 15th, 20126:25 pm
cabravesfan: Matthew Diaz @diazfoundation
Hey guys thanks for all your thoughts and prayers. The surgery went well and pictures are up to follow
That’s great about MelkDud. What goes around comes around. Life has a way of doing that and still some people don’t think it will.
August 15th, 20126:26 pm
Matthew Diaz @diazfoundation
To some of y’alls relief I don’t have the pictures yet
supposedly, the Braves have a very bad TV contract for the next 20+ years. (of course, that’s when you compare it to the ones recently signed by the Rangers, Angels, etc.)
August 15th, 20126:30 pm
Believe the TV contract is with “Peachtree TV” or something like that – and as many places as I’ve lived, I’ve never had that channel as an option. Probably have to live within 10 miles of Atlanta to get it…lol
Bourn will go, but that doesn’t mean I’ll forget about him. Chipper is right that #1 priority should be signing this guy in the offseason, but it isn’t HIS money. He is right though. Very valuable player.
August 15th, 20126:32 pm
Jay Dubu- i understand that to be true, unfortunately.
Instead of treating it like an anchor and have it directly affect the product on the field… why not treat it like a player and negotiate a buyout. Resign a new TV deal for proper big money. And compete like a real top 10 team.
And wheres the story about the person who signed that horrible TV contract?
If it has affected the team as much as it has, why not call this person out?
I’d like to know who the moron is.
After the way Melkweed seemed to rub it in on the Braves standing and watching home runs and “hot dogging” in the outfield on certain plays when the Giants were in Atlanta, I can’t feel one ounce of sympathy for him.
Let us repeat: How did Melky Cabrera “revitalize” his career and raise his average by 100 points along with his power numbers since leaving the Braves? He juiced (also known as “cheated”). Meaning he was never the player that he wanted to depict by his strutting. 50 games should rightfully become retirement for him if the Giants and any other MLB teams have any brains about them when he becomes eligible to return; without his “edge” I suspect his numbers will return to those woeful levels that Braves fans were so joyous to see him leave town over.
August 15th, 20126:36 pm
We can resign Bourn easily; all Liberty Media has to do to make it happen is just cut $15 million or so off of CEO Malone’s annual $90-plus million salary.
And yes, that’s sarcasm, ’cause we all know that isn’t going to happen.
August 15th, 20126:37 pm
From the previous blog which had 1,122 comments, phil led the way with 70 posts. There were 113 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:
Rank Poster Frequency
1 phil 70
2 Venice Jim 63
3 Pace 56
4 Sundrop Kid 56
5 Efrim 48
6 Brian from SC 47
7 TheOnlyBravesFan 42
8 ACE 40
9 McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô: 40
10 nolie 36
11 kelevra 31
12 MFin04 29
13 raleighbravefan 29
14 Tomahawk Mafia 28
15 cricket 28
16 cabravesfan 25
17 SNEAKY PETE 24
18 TennesseePaul 21
19 Lew 20
20 Veer 17
21 Jimmy 16
22 Tomahawkin 16
23 richbrave 16
24 JC Brave 15
25 George 14
August 15th, 2012
There is no re-do on the TV deal. The deal was structured by Time Warner, who just happens to own Peachtree. The Braves are stuck with this deal for another 19 years
August 15th, 20126:39 pm
If they do resign Bourn, what do they do about McCann the next offseason? If McCann struggles do they let him walk after next year?
August 15th, 20126:41 pm
Hey Liberty Media: Give the Braves more money or sell them. The only reason you bought the team was for tax savings, and Braves fans have had to put up with a bargain basement approach ever since. Sports teams should be owned be people who love the sport and have pride in their product. Liberty Media does not love the Braves or baseball, and they could care less about the fans. I am not upset with the Braves, or team management. I am upset with Liberty Media, and all Braves Fans should be mad too.
Hey Melk Man....Got Karma
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA. Made my day when I saw that Melky was suspended for PEDs. Serves that SOB right for the crap that he pulled when SF came to town.
Oh, Melky the jerk. When the Giants came to Atlanta I told you Melky was doping. No way else one could explain such a huge turnaround. From a lazy, bumbler who struggled to hit into one of the premier hitters overnight??
Yeah, sure Melky. I wasn’t buying it.
August 15th, 20126:42 pm
I think that tax break they got for the Braves ends this year or maybe it already did
August 15th, 20126:43 pm
I think the Braves are hoping Bethancourt will be ready soon enough to help solve the McCann question. Hard to say though.
August 15th, 20126:44 pm
Just hoping the Giants don’t go after Bourn now that Melky’s gone.
What? What? Only #4? The ‘SUNDROP KID’ always matriculated to the front of the class previously. In Nashville I was never, ever lower than numero uno. ‘SK’ demands a recount immediately! This is an atrocity!
August 15th, 20126:45 pm
The Braves have been rebourn. They are the Bourn Again Braves.
We want Bourn! We want Bourn! If Liberty doesn’t fork up the cash, then we should call it the Bourn Conspiracy.
So as Braves fans we are just supposed to accept that we will spend money like a below average small market team because some executive singed a bad deal… for the next 19 years?
I don’t buy it.
That’s a helpless mentality like the Hawks before Danny Ferry.
We need someone like DF to come in a correct the problem hamstringing this team.
August 15th, 20126:46 pm
Hate those pop up political ads! Hate them!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tax break ended in 2011…
August 15th, 20126:48 pm
Chilidawg, was reading an article in the Macon Telegraph 2-3 days ago by Bill Shanks and he said the Chairman of the Board of Liberty Media, John Malone, had only been to one Braves’ game in 5 yrs., and that was in Colorado. Don’t know if that’s true or not, but sounds logical to me. That was one of the best articles I have read lowering the boom on Liberty. Wish everyone could have read it. For some reason or another it disappeared after one day. Think maybe he was forced to take it down.
There’s not a damn thing you can do about it.
August 15th, 20126:50 pm
Jason Heyward is being interviewed on the pre-game show. That usually means he is gonna have a crap game. Stay tuned.
If Melky gets another job in the MLB, I’ll be disappointed… that POC shouldn’t play in the MLB again.
Heck, I don’t even want him to get to play in Japan… go find a “real” job.
(in case you couldn’t tell, I have an intense dislike, okay hatred, for “juicers”)
Another perfect game. 3 this year. Unheard of.
with the absolute steal that they have, why would they agree to a buy out?
August 15th, 20126:51 pm
You sign a 29 year old to a 7 year contract and give it 3-4 years before everyone is crying about how much payroll he is taking up. If they sign him and the Braves don’t get a World Series in the next few years, 35 years old is going to start looking mighty daunting for Bourn. He is a prize now, but so were a lot of the Phillies big signings…
Don’t you love the way the Giants just stuck their heads in the sand when they had to know,or at least suspect, that Melky “the idiot” was full of human performance enhancers and brahma bull testosterone?
August 15th, 20126:53 pm
Pay him. Pay himmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. (In the voice of a mad German scientist.)
Thanks Brian Jordan for pronouncing “parents” as “purents”. You are this damn close to being Tyler Perry.
The ‘SUNDROP KID’ always matriculated to the front of the class previously….Sundrop
are we sure that the Sundrop Kid really knows what matriculated means any more than he did with fortnight???
August 15th, 20126:55 pm
None of them are worth the silly money they are being paid. Respect the honest players, not the cheaters. If Barry Bonds gets into the Hall of Fame, I’m going to spend even more days fishing. Baseball got out of hand under this current commissioner who LOVES LOVES money and represents it well.
August 15th, 20126:56 pm
lol @ Jerry…
August 15th, 20126:58 pm
You telling me that the CEO of Liberty Media earns more than the Braves’ 2012 payroll?
There is something wrong with that.
Way to go Jerome. You say that Maholm has been “lights out” for the Braves. Never mind the fact that he is 1-1 in his two games. Doesn’t scream lights out from here.
August 15th, 20126:59 pm
There are a lot of CEOs around the country who make more than he does
August 15th, 20127:00 pm
Pitchers don’t win and lose games on their own, Jerry. 3 ER in 16 innings is pretty darn good, if you ask me…
See Chipper, you were right. what goes around comes around. It wasn’t Melky being ugly in Atlanta, it was the DRUGS!! JUST SAY NO!!
August 15th, 20127:01 pm
not good enough for the Jerr-ster obviously
“Way to go Jerome. You say that Maholm has been “lights out” for the Braves. Never mind the fact that he is 1-1 in his two games. Doesn’t scream lights out from here.”
1.69 ERA sure does though….
Rochie drops an in-field pop-up.
Run scores, tying run to the plate with 2 out in the bottom of the ninth.
Let that be Washington’s Kelly Johnson moment.
August 15th, 20127:02 pm
Yep, according to an article posted (I’m not certain by which writer; it may have been DOB) awhile back, the entire Braves payroll is less than Liberty Media’s CEO makes in a given year.
Posey batting representing the tying run
August 15th, 20127:03 pm
Even more on Melky, he tainted the All Start game, an exhibition game that determines home field advantage during the World Series.
August 15th, 20127:04 pm
Jerry – Thanks Brian Jordan for pronouncing “parents” as “purents”. You are this damn close to being Tyler Perry.
That’s that Baltimore accent. I know it very well.
Posey strikes out to end the game.
Breaking News: Nationals win, again.
August 15th, 20127:05 pm
Nats pass their Giants test, after their series with the Mets they get a Braves test
yup, Bal-mer has iggles and zinks too
August 15th, 20127:06 pm
Sorry. Giving up 2 homers and 3 runs to a shytty Astros team is not “lights out”. Don’t get me wrong, I like Maholm. Just taking exception to Jerome’s description.
August 15th, 20127:07 pm
SK, ……Are you the same “Sundance Kid” that was posting last year on the Tennessean sports blogs a lot? You mentioned Nashville and your wording seems similar. Was that you, and are you still there?
so, lights out is like an ERA of 0.00?
Good day all
Good blog by DOB. Great that CHIPPER spoke out about keeping BOURN. CHIPPER is very imtelligent about baseball. It would be very good if next year he had some input as to howthe team is run.
August 15th, 20127:08 pm
“so, lights out is like an ERA of 0.00?”
Sadly, that’s what some on here think.
Sundrop is from a different place with each avatar he uses
August 15th, 20127:09 pm
I honestly don’t think the Braves’ front office is near a state of concern at this point in his career, knowing how smart front offices seem these days and how smart the Braves front office seems to be. I think they understand evaluation better than the fan base and have a better understanding that the fan base as to what batting average and RBI do and don’t tell us.
Shaun, I get it. And you don;t have to thump the BA and RBI sucks book with me. I’m on your side with statistical evidence and player evaluation, but I think you’re a bit off on expectations with Heyward – at least from what we read earlier this year.
That’s that Baltimore accent. I know it very well. LAG
Really? Didn’t know they had one of their own. It almost sounds worst than some of the bumpkins down here. And before anyone gives me grief about that, I was born and raised in Atlanta. Thank God I don’t sound entirely like it.
August 15th, 20127:10 pm
Liberty will low ball Bourn ,something like 4 years 44 million.
August 15th, 20127:12 pm
That would be “yours truly” kind sir, one and the same, but one small correction if I may. It’s “SUNDROP KID” not SUNDANCE. My self-esteem would suffer greatly if it were “SUNDANCE!”
I’d actually like Felix Hernandez to stay a Mariner. I’d like Verlander to stay a Tiger. I enjoy seeing prospects come up through the system and stay with their teams. Just my opinion.
No wonder why Melky got so much better after he left here.
Oh well. I sort of do not care one way or the other how he does.
Joe with a live microphone in the broadcasters booth: Dan Uggla is great! Dan is super! Man, is Uggs having a terrific year! Soon, any day now, some team is going to pay when he really breaks out and goes on a tear.
Off mike, to Chip: Hey, do you think those idiot fans are buying my spiel about Uggla?
Chip: Oh sure, you bet they are.
I love Dan.
Just turned on the broadcast and it was the Padres announcers that came up first. Well, I think I will watch the Padres tonight as Dick Enberg is the play by play guy.
Hope Lew had good news this afternoon.
August 15th, 20127:13 pm
so, lights out is like an ERA of 0.00? SP
Or 2-0 with a 1.69 ERA. Point is he won 1 and lost 1 against a team he should have owned. He gave up 2 homers and he almost never gives up homers. That, in and of itself, says he wasn’t lights out in that game.
August 15th, 20127:14 pm
No way you pay him 12 – 15 million a year! I like the guy and understand he is a key figure in the Braves offense but he isn’t worth that kind of money. The Braves will need a true Number 1 starter if they are to contend for a World Series. If you can sign a true number 1 starter and Bourne then I don’t care what you pay him but pitching is more important. Bourne has certainly been good but maybe too good for Atlanta to keep. If a guy can’t hit .300 with 30 home runs and 115 rbi or win 18 – 20 games per year then he isn’t worth 15 millon a year.
that is great top of the 1st!!
Six strikes in seven pitches for Maholm in 1st inning
The Rev Al
August 15th, 20127:15 pm
No way the braves sign Bourn. Buster Olney, ESPN sportswriter, wrote an article about this subject and said the two major suitors will be Washnington and the Phillies. He did not even reference the potential that the braves would perhaps sign him. This franchise opts for lower budget players. Count Bourn gone this fall.
August 15th, 20127:16 pm
Ditto Efrim on your 7:12 post.
I can see Verlander staying with Det as long as Illitch is around.
And the stuff about trading Felix for a package is a joke, you do not move out your impact players, you build around them.
Most of the time when the superstar is traded, other GM’s will lowball. That goes in all sports.
Like Dwight Howard to the Lakers for the bad of junk Orlado got. Or, how bout the bags of junk our onc beloved Thrashers got for Marian Hossa and Illya Kovanchuck.
Other GM’s lowball cause they know they do not have to pay fair value to the trading team trading out of despareation.
August 15th, 20127:18 pm
I think Bourn (Boras) starts paying attention at the 5 year $75M mark and tries to negotiate up to the 6 year $102M mark (6yr/$17M)
Jerry – Really? Didn’t know they had one of their own. It almost sounds worst than some of the bumpkins down here. And before anyone gives me grief about that, I was born and raised in Atlanta. Thank God I don’t sound entirely like it.
Yep, they do some weird things with vowels up that way. We lived there for four years, and the accent never ceased to amuse me and hurt my ears at the same time.
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