Can Braves afford to keep Bourn? Can they afford not to?

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anti-negative guy

August 15th, 2012
10:02 pm

TUFF…get out of the kitchen a-hole!!!!!!!

SNEAKY PETE

August 15th, 2012
10:04 pm

Francisco makes too many outs and hits poorly against lefties and does not play good D at all. If he starts regularly at third it will be a huge step back.
I think they are more likely to get a left fielder and go cheap on a good defensive center guy if (when) Bourn leaves

LAG

August 15th, 2012
10:04 pm

Before I leave:

Yep, Rickey’s speech definitely raised my eyebrows.
Was he juicing? Dunno. Since he was on the As with Canseco and McGwire, there’s always that possibility.
I’m not surprised at all that he would stop at 2nd in order to steal 3rd.

That’s it from me… gotta get ready for tomorrow.

Go Braves.

Mark

August 15th, 2012
10:04 pm

“Oh I get it, A Mamma joke”

What movie that quote come off of? Since we have mamma joke stuff going on here!

Bama Braves

August 15th, 2012
10:04 pm

I Will Let ya win this time Cab. lol

SNEAKY PETE

August 15th, 2012
10:05 pm

Tuff is just another attention seeking jerk, don’t waste your time . It is what he wants you to do

phil

August 15th, 2012
10:05 pm

anti-negative guy

August 15th, 2012
10:06 pm

Mark, REMEMBER THE TITANS

Jerry

August 15th, 2012
10:06 pm

Well, “lights out” Maholm wasn’t so “lights out” tonight, but he was good enough and that’s all that really matters.

brian

August 15th, 2012
10:06 pm

Jerry – Bonds was a likely Hall of Famer without PEDS. No HR records but still HOF caliber. McGuire would have been the classic power hitter with a .240-.250 average and 30-50 HRs per year. Sosa was the one that underperformed early in his career and then all of a sudden took off. Those guys still would have been all stars but Bonds was special. That is why his decision to take PEDs baffles me. Only explaination is huge ego that did not want others taking the limelight

anti-negative guy

August 15th, 2012
10:06 pm

Great movie, seen it about 10 times

Mark

August 15th, 2012
10:08 pm

Yeah it was a classic flick!

keylargo

August 15th, 2012
10:08 pm

I look at it like this – The Braves are not a great team. But neither is any other team in either league.

brian

August 15th, 2012
10:08 pm

Maholm was great tonight. 7IP 1ER and 7K. Pitched out of some jams. He will be a great 3-5 pitcher next year

Capt.Mudd

August 15th, 2012
10:09 pm

Jordan postgame views He continues to impress….on Uggs……Simpson, he’s getting on top of a lot of balls lately…..Dan said when you’re hot, it feels good.l

brian

August 15th, 2012
10:10 pm

Sneaky Pete – If Francisco gets regular playing time next year it will be in LF as a platoon with someone like Reed Johnson. Prado will take over at 3rd full time.

If we could somehow sign Bourn and/or a top pitcher then we will likely have that platoon in LF

anti-negative guy

August 15th, 2012
10:10 pm

Love these Braves!!!

SNEAKY PETE

August 15th, 2012
10:10 pm

Bonds is a narcissist like Sheff, deeply insecure, they have to be the center

anti-negative guy

August 15th, 2012
10:11 pm

What impresses me most is how young they are.

Jerry

August 15th, 2012
10:11 pm

brian,

I don’t know why Barry did it an he’s the one that’s has to live with it. If I had to guess, there would be two reasons. One, he was the son of Bobby Bonds and he pushed Barry to be Barry. Second, maybe he wanted to get to the world series really badly. He came up just short twice in 1991 and 1992 and maybe that was enough to try something that would make him just a little bit better. Don’t know how close I am to the truth, but you are right. He had the HOF locked up without the juice. It’s a shame that he may never get there now.

anti-negative guy

August 15th, 2012
10:12 pm

phil

August 15th, 2012
10:12 pm

Agree, PETE…

Jerry

August 15th, 2012
10:14 pm

Bonds is a narcissist like Sheff, deeply insecure, they have to be the center

Sorry Pete, I’m not buying that one. Barry was someone who brooded and wanted to be left alone. That doesn’t strike me as someone who wanted to be the center of attention.

Mark

August 15th, 2012
10:14 pm

When was it mentioned for Francisco to play LF?

Now that would be ugggggggggly!

As good as Chipper is at 3B , he wasn’t very good in left.

And to steal a quote. “Franciso, you’re no Chipper”

phil

August 15th, 2012
10:14 pm

No, it isn’t a shame.

Self-induced. A damn fool.

MikeInFl

August 15th, 2012
10:14 pm

Maholm was great tonight. 7IP 1ER and 7K. Pitched out of some jams. He will be a great 3-5 pitcher next year

In his last 10 games (9 starts) counting tonight: 68 IP, with a 1.19 ERA. Starting to become a pretty serious streak of excellence. Mostly against 2nd division teams, but includes great outings against AZ and Pit.

I don’t really expect him to be that good, but at some point you gotta acknowledge what he’s doing. Amazing.

Trey

August 15th, 2012
10:15 pm

phil, I’ll put money on it, that anti-negative guy is still a virgin.

phil

August 15th, 2012
10:16 pm

Maholm has great movement on his offspeed stuff….keep that up, tough guy to hit if he can spot the fball…

Venice Jim

August 15th, 2012
10:18 pm

“Obsession” is a 1983 song covered in 1984 by the synthpop/New Wave group Animotion. Contrary to popular belief, the song was never covered by The Human League and has often been falsely attributed to them.

Capt.Mudd

August 15th, 2012
10:18 pm

Anyone up for another sequel? JHey….got some coaching vis-a-vis Walker and it is paying dividends….and this is what a bunch of us have been waiting for…..great job Jason!

phil

August 15th, 2012
10:18 pm

Trey, he’s certainly not very bright…

Mark

August 15th, 2012
10:19 pm

Jerry

I really think Barry saw all the attention and fame the two Steroid Gurus were getting chasing Maris and he probably thought ” I’m a better hitter than those 2 will ever be and if they can hit 60 plus homers takng that stuff I’ll hit more than them”

And he would have been and turned out to be right. Sosa or McGwire couldn’t compare to Barry as a player or hitter.

Problem is though any way you cut it they all cheated and stole from others. Stole is a harsh but accurate word!

anti-negative guy

August 15th, 2012
10:20 pm

Maholm is going to five up some homers. You throw 87 and miss you’re going to. But he locates so well. Think this might be a great pickup for now and down the road.

phil

August 15th, 2012
10:20 pm

Good night all….

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

August 15th, 2012
10:20 pm

Trey

Glad you got some good rest…

At least, they put you to sleep for that

Yes. As I said, they would not have been able to get within 50 yards of my mouth, otherwise!… :) The way you had yours done…that sounds rough…

anti-negative guy

August 15th, 2012
10:21 pm

Trey that’s not what your girlfriend said.

anti-negative guy

August 15th, 2012
10:22 pm

Trey I’m a big Braves fan. Don’t mess with me

Keith

August 15th, 2012
10:22 pm

Wren has said they’re making preparation to sign him.

Whether they will or not, that is another issue. I hope so. He’s been as good or better than advertised. Amazing trade last year, Wren!

GO BRAVES :)

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

August 15th, 2012
10:23 pm

Well, last year on this date we came home and I logged on to find BMac had homered. Was thinking we’d be as lucky tonight, but I guess it’s good that I didn’t place any bets…

:cry: Poor BMac! What in heaven’s name has gone wrong???…:(

anti-negative guy

August 15th, 2012
10:24 pm

Trey UI really like reading your stuff, but Phils is a prick and I’m going to respond to him

Trey

August 15th, 2012
10:27 pm

McFann, yeah, I keep falling asleep, though, so definitely good rest. Post OP could have been much worse. My dad had surgery about four month back, when they had to go into his lung and cut out some junk building up, since he had pneumonia.

Back in boot, the worst part was just getting the Novacaine shot, it wasn’t too rough.

Trey

August 15th, 2012
10:29 pm

anti-negative guy, I am going to ignore the comment regarding the girlfriend, but we all can be pricks on here.

Jerry

August 15th, 2012
10:29 pm

Mark, you could be right. Who’s knows, it could be one of those multiple choice test questions where the answer is D: All of the Above. Still, I’m probably one of the few non-Giant fans that really liked him and enjoyed watching him light up the sky. When everyone was saying, “hey Griffey Jr is the best player in baseball”, I was saying, “Barry is coming up fast in the rear view mirror.”

With that being said, everyone have a great night. I’ve had a great day. I don’t have cancer and the Braves won. Can’t get much better than that. Nite all!

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

August 15th, 2012
10:29 pm

Trey

Yikes! Sorry to hear that about your Dad…

Back in boot, the worst part was just getting the Novacaine shot, it wasn’t too rough.

I just could NOT be awake with them cutting up my gums. No way…hard enough for me to sit still during a cleaning. And what I put my parents through when Dad tried to pull my loose baby teeth…not proud of it…:)

Capt.Mudd

August 15th, 2012
10:29 pm

@VJ….Calvin Klein was all over that title and put it in a bottle. ‘Every breath you take…and every move you make……Every bond you break/every step you take….I’ll be wathing you.” And if you got sticky fingers and stole some, Sting and The Police will be watching you.

Jerry

August 15th, 2012
10:31 pm

Oh, and everyone say a prayer for Lew’s son.

Capt.Mudd

August 15th, 2012
10:31 pm

Watching you….dang sticky keys…need a new lappy.

anti-negative guy

August 15th, 2012
10:32 pm

You right Trey but when you are you have to expect response

Mark

August 15th, 2012
10:36 pm

Jerry

I’m probably more anti-juice than most others because I grew up watching every Aaron AB I could watch or listening to Ernie and Milo giving play by play. Remeber the HR off Downing when he broke Ruths record and was jumping up and down as a kid so happy my hero at the time accomplished a great thing.

Then comes Barry and all the PED stuff. Just a bummer for me but it is what it is…

Take care

Trey

August 15th, 2012
10:39 pm

Jerry, I am glad you are well. :)

McFann, thanks, he is doing well, now. The sad thing is, he had pneumonia for a while, but did no realize it, until he went to the hospital, because he thought he was having a heart attack.

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

August 15th, 2012
10:42 pm

Trey

Goodness—that’s scary! Glad he’s doing well now…

Oh well, shut down time now—just wanted to check in. Glad the Braves won, but also pretty OK that I missed the game…Anyway, Night, all!…

DiamondbackMac

August 15th, 2012
10:45 pm

McFann

G’night and sweet dreams. :)

N8

August 15th, 2012
10:47 pm

“Attendance at Turner Field: 16,302. Two of three smallest #Braves home crowds this season have come in past 2 nights vs. Padres.”

Oh don’t worry about it. When school gets out and this team is in position to make a playoff run…. you’ll have to beat the fans away with a stick.

brian

August 15th, 2012
10:49 pm

it is the Padres and a school night

richbrave

August 15th, 2012
10:49 pm

DOWN ON THE FARM

GWINNETT

TIDES roll in, and wash over the G-Men 5-2.

1B ERNESTO MEJIA [.307 BA] 3-5, 1 R.

RF FELIX PIE [.292 BA] 2-4, 1 BB, 1 SO.

3B TERRY TIFFEE [.322 BA] 2-5, 1 RBI [15], 2 SO.

1B JOSH KROEGER [.261 BA] 1-5, 1 2B [21], 1 RBI [32], 1 E [2, throwing].

C JOSE YEPEZ [.259 BA] 1-2, 2 BB.

SS JOSH WILSON [.246 BA] 1-4, 1 SO.

RHSP JAIR JURRJENS [L 3-5, 5.10 ERA] 2.0 IP, 2 H, 3 R/ER, 1 BB, 2 SO.

RHRP BUDDY CARLYSLE [3.34 ERA] 3.0 IP, 5 H, 1 HR, 2 R/ER, 1 BB, 1 SO.

RHRP PETER MOYLAN had a three-hit, unscathed, one-strikeout inning of work.

LHRP RYAN BUCHTER [9.82 ERA] 2.0 IP, pristine, 1 SO.

Trey

August 15th, 2012
10:51 pm

Have a good night, McFann

N8

August 15th, 2012
10:52 pm

“Sorry Pete, I’m not buying that one. Barry was someone who brooded and wanted to be left alone. That doesn’t strike me as someone who wanted to be the center of attention.”

If I remember correctly there were stories about Bonds being upset that teammate Jeff Kent won the NL MVP in 2000.

Yup. Nothing like a guy that wants to keep to himself and root against a teammate doing well and coming out from his shadow.

N8

August 15th, 2012
10:53 pm

It was a joke Brian.

N8

August 15th, 2012
10:55 pm

I bet in 1991 there were packed houses at FCS on school nights.

Face it. The city of Atlanta isn’t going to care until the Braves win the first round of the playoffs and advance.

Thankfully for ticket sales, it’s Chipper’s last year. Otherwise my guess is that most of the August and September games would be half full.

Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)

August 15th, 2012
10:58 pm

Yep, Rickey’s speech definitely raised my eyebrows.
Was he juicing? Dunno. Since he was on the As with Canseco and McGwire, there’s always that possibility.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

If anybody thinks that Canseco and McGwire were the only two Oakland A’s who were juicing back in the day…….think again. Think Cooperstown, because it is more than likely baseball’s Hall of Fame is already juiced.

N8

August 15th, 2012
11:01 pm

Capt.Mudd, I had to look this up because I had remembered reading it a while back about Sting and “Every Breath You Take”. The following line was taken from Sting’s Wikipedia page…..

“And also as of 2003, Sting was still taking in an average of $2000 per day in royalties for the then 20-year-old song.”

Nothing like making 3/4 of a million dollars per year over 20 years from one song.

David O'Brien

August 15th, 2012
11:02 pm

N8

August 15th, 2012
11:03 pm

Actually, that wasn’t Sting’s Wiki page. It was the page specifically for the song. Yikes.

richbrave

August 15th, 2012
11:04 pm

DOWN ON THE FARM

MISSISSIPPI

Bandits win 2-1

Lead-off CF TODD CUNNINGHAM [.317 BA] 0-4, 1 SO.

CF KEENAN WILEY [.253 BA] 1-4, 1 SO.

1B JOEY T. [.309 BA] 1-4, 1 R.

LF EVAN GATTIS [.250 BA] 1-4, 1 R, 1 SO.

3B JOE LEONARD [.264 BA] 2-4, 1 RBI [62]

2B PHIL GOSSELIN [.248 BA] 2-4, 1 2B [22], 1 RBI [44], 1 SO.

C MATT KENNELLY [.279 BA] 1-4.

Great pitching tonight by the starter and middle relief. Eight innings of 5-hit shutout ball.

RHSP DAVID HALE [W 7-4, 4.08 ERA] 5.0 IP, 2 H, zeros, 4 SO.

LHRP CHRIS JONES [H 3, 3.74 ERA] 3.0 IP, 3 H, zeros, 4 SO.

RHRP CORY RASMUS [SV 3, 3.91 ERA] 1.0 IP, 1 H, 1 HR, 1 R/ER, 3 SO.

Strikes out the side while making one mistake pitch and loses the shut-out.

richbrave

August 15th, 2012
11:07 pm

Boy, if the MELK-DUD isn’t the poster child for the difference between juicing and not, I don’t know who is. What a difference an illegal substance makes.

Jerry

August 15th, 2012
11:07 pm

If I remember correctly there were stories about Bonds being upset that teammate Jeff Kent won the NL MVP in 2000. N8

I didn’t hear it quite like that N8, but the two of them certainly did not like each other one little iota. They were polar opposites.

richbrave

August 15th, 2012
11:13 pm

DOWN ON THE FARM

LYNCHBURG

ED SALCEDO had a lost night at the plate and in the field. In spite of his play however, the HILLCATS win 2-1.

ED SALCEDO [.250 BA] 0-4, HAT TRICK! 1 E [35. throwing].

WOW! What a game.

Capt.Mudd

August 15th, 2012
11:21 pm

@N8…..Interesting…..and Bill Gates is changing the octave on future toilets…..furthermore, in comparison—-Billy Ray Cyrus’ “Achy Breaky Heart,” makes Billy 49 cents per fisal hiccup.

Venice Jim

August 15th, 2012
11:26 pm

What insidious sort of person would even mention the ABH song, trying to force it into my unsuspecting skull?…

Venice Jim

August 15th, 2012
11:26 pm

Chipper Jones ‏@RealCJ10
Man I kno when to take a nite off. Roadrunner and Jhey w/ 2 dubs. DU crushed a 3run #yicketty and Ma-homie went 7 strong! Bobbleheads tmrw!!

Venice Jim

August 15th, 2012
11:27 pm

I hope Chipper doesn’t think MFin04 will forgive him for taking a night off and hurting the team…

David O'Brien

August 15th, 2012
11:31 pm

tiger297

August 15th, 2012
11:40 pm

wow – what an awesome time at the ballyard tonight

TheOnlyBravesFan

August 15th, 2012
11:44 pm

lol VJ

Uggla seems to have found it… only 15 more to go… it’ll help if he has a 2 or 3 HR game :) He’s heading in the right direction.

BMac, unfortunately is going the wrong way. Turn around BMAC!!!!

Venice Jim

August 15th, 2012
11:52 pm

MFIKY trying to close out the Rangers in a 1 run game…Ks Hamilton…

Venice Jim

August 15th, 2012
11:53 pm

And Beltre out quickly (no reason to care other than boredom)…

TheOnlyBravesFan

August 16th, 2012
12:04 am

Chipper F’n Jones ‏@FakeChipper
Melky gets suspended 50 games. King Felix throws a perfect game. Sportscenter’s lead story is Tebow on the punt team.
Retweeted by Luke Sims ⚾

LOL

Venice Jim

August 16th, 2012
12:06 am

Now the Braves officially have 4th best record after the Texas loss – at least for the time being…

TheOnlyBravesFan

August 16th, 2012
12:07 am

I’m off to bed. Night VJ!

nolie

August 16th, 2012
12:08 am

I can’t see them putting Francisco in the outfield next season.

Capt.Mudd

August 16th, 2012
12:09 am

Well, I did consider my actions immodest and querulous @VJ……..no biggie!

TheOnlyBravesFan

August 16th, 2012
12:10 am

1 last tweet! Love me some Matty D

Matthew Diaz ‏@diazfoundation
Now that braves win u can have the pics… Ps told u uggla was gonna hit 3 homers soon :)

Matthew Diaz ‏@diazfoundation
The masses of skin holding the foreign bodies, one of the foreign bodies “glistened” they r off 2 lab 4 testing #gross pic.twitter.com/1E9QCT3q

Venice Jim

August 16th, 2012
12:11 am

Shut had a word problem involving batting average which totally threw the Korean boy who knows nothing about baseball…

TheOnlyBravesFan

August 16th, 2012
12:12 am

SQUEAMISH ALERT!!! His finger is cut open

Matthew Diaz ‏@diazfoundation
Goin in to get the stuff out pic.twitter.com/LAV7HCRs

http://twitter.com/diazfoundation/status/235918791115165700/photo/1/large

Good night, now!

Venice Jim

August 16th, 2012
12:12 am

Good grief – not sure how “just” came out as “shut”…

tiger297

August 16th, 2012
12:13 am

nolie – wish you were on Facebook or twitter..some awesome photos of the little one on 1B – and then that bumb freeman came and took his place

TheOnlyBravesFan

August 16th, 2012
12:13 am

I can’t see them putting Francisco in the outfield next season.

Not that he could…

Venice Jim

August 16th, 2012
12:14 am

Capt – the sad thing is, I had totally forgotten what I had said to you, and, in going back to look, have reinserted the song into my cranium…

nolie

August 16th, 2012
12:20 am

I pretty much agree Pete. Both seem to be narcissists. Insecure and need to feel respected and thought of as the very best, and act out when that does not occur. Their behavior patterns certainly began in anger and insecurity anyway. Barry has as much as admitted that he started using because he wanted to be thoughof as the best and resented the attention Sosa and Mac were getting when he considered them lesser players.
Like they say in the psych circles, negative attention is better than no attention.Variations of which explains much of the blog comments all over the net too ;)

nolie

August 16th, 2012
12:25 am

You have my Email Tiger, send me a couple . I would love to see them :D

tiger297

August 16th, 2012
12:31 am

nolie

August 16th, 2012
12:39 am

That is so cool, especially the one with both of them. What a great photo for him to have as he grows up and appreciates it more. might wanna crop it a bit for him bottom and right, bring it up closer a bit but still keep the sense of size from the stands at left.

tiger297

August 16th, 2012
12:41 am

yeah can’t do too much with them just camera phone photos…the wife took a bunch of them as well-she does the editing stuff I just get her the hard copies

tiger297

August 16th, 2012
12:41 am

between venters/martinez/avilan standing and waiting for him to come in from RF so they could give him fist bumps
uggla patting his head as he ran out to 2B
freeman hanging out with him and signing the ball
ross/ski/someone else I couldnt tell gave him 5 as they ran past the dugout on the way out
medlen jumped out to give him 5 at the end of the dugout
then gearin gave him a fist bump when he headed out to the mound
cant forget the standard eddie perez/alan butts/other pitchers discussions throughout the game
and everybody left in the bullpen gave him fist bumps as they left

all in all not a bad day at the ball yard

oh yeah in between there was a baseball game and the braves won :)

Venice Jim

August 16th, 2012
12:50 am

tiger – that sounds great!

nolie

August 16th, 2012
12:52 am

“when its sleepy time down South…”

tiger297

August 16th, 2012
12:54 am

VJ – yeah it was pretty awesome…the 2nd 1/2 is a pretty standard night but the first part was unique (it is all very special)

tiger297

August 16th, 2012
12:55 am

guess I cant call nolie a copycat since it wasn’t mine to start with

tiger297

August 16th, 2012
12:56 am

but I only stole it when haggard was MIA

tiger297

August 16th, 2012
12:56 am

gotta get there early tomorrow its bobblehead night

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