Advancing Padres series, Braves schedule rest of the way
(Carroll Rogers is filling in for David O’Brien today.)
It’s that time again – high socks Monday – which has worked for the past two Mondays, when the Braves
Braves in their high socks last Monday in Philly. Photo courtesy of @KevinMcAlpin from 680
went 2-0 with wins over the Marlins and the Phillies after an 0-12 start on that day of the month.
The Braves open a four-game series against the Padres, a team they haven’t faced all season. Weird, isn’t it? But they’ll play seven games against the Padres in the next 17 days, including three at Petco Park on Aug. 27-29. (For complete pitching match-ups and more stats, click here.)
The Padres actually come to town hot. They’d won six in a row until the Pirates snapped it on Sunday with a Clint Barmes grand slam and a 11-5 win. Before that they’d won two of three from the Pirates, swept the Cubs and taken two of three from the Mets.
The Padres are without their closer Huston Street, who was just placed on the DL Saturday with a strained quadriceps. He was 21-for-21 in save opportunities this season and had a 21 1/3 inning scoreless streak when he strained his quad covering first base Friday night on the game’s final out. He is 2-1 with an 0.75 ERA in 36 games overall. They’ll likely use set-up men Dale Thayer and Luke Gregerson to hold down the fort while Street is out.
Tonight Mike Minor will be facing left-hander Eric Stultz, who was just moved back into the rotation when the Padres designated Kip Wells for assignment. He pitched 5 1/3 shutout innings in his first start back in the rotation in a 2-0 win over the Cubs. As a starter he is 2-2 with a 2.78 ERA in six starts this season. This is his first start against the Braves, since Aug. 9, 2009 when as a Dodger, he gave up three earned runs in five innings of a loss.
(Chipper Jones decided to play Monday’s game despite the late-night return from New York. He’ll likely get a rest day later in the series.)
Minor hasn’t felt great in his past two starts but – a rain-shortened outing against the Marlins and a 3-0 loss to the Phillies – but he showed he could persevere even still. He rebounded after a rough first inning in Philadelphia to pitch six shutout innings.
And this little tidbit: former Brave Jason Marquis, whom the Braves will face on Thursday, took a no-hit bit into the seventh inning on Saturday against the Pirates and A.J. Burnett, and wound up with a two-hit shutout. This is the same Marquis was released by the Twins earlier this year.
Failure to gain ground
The Braves are coming off a 4-2 road trip with series victories against the Phillies and Mets but really last night’s loss cost them a rare opportunity to gain ground on the Nationals, who had lost earlier in the day to Arizona to snap an eight-game winning streak.
It seemed like the Braves had failed to take advantage of those here recently, so I checked back to verify and it’s really not been that bad. Since the Braves and Nats split their head-to-head series July 20-22, the Nationals have lost five games. The Braves have lost two of those, but won three.
Nats losses Braves results
Aug. 12 Loss to Arizona 7-4 Braves lost to Mets 6-5
Aug. 3 Lost to Miami 5-2 in DH Game 2 Braves beat Astros 4-1
Aug. 1 lost to Philadelphia 3-2 Braves lost to Miami, 4-2
July 31 lost to Philadelphia 8-0 Braves beat Miami 7-1
July 27 lost to Milwaukee 6-0 Braves beat Phillies 6-1
Upcoming schedule
Braves could use more productive this from Freeman, Heyward on into September
Overall, the schedule from here on out is pretty favorable for the Braves. As the standings dictate today, the Braves play teams with sub. 500 records in two out of every three games the rest of the way.
Of the 48 remaining, 32 games are against sub. 500 teams (seven against the Padres, six against the Phillies, six against the Mets, six against the Marlins, four against the Rockies and three against the Brewers.)
Of their final 48 games, 16 are against teams with winning records (three against the Dodgers, six against the Nationals, four against the Giants and three against the Pirates.)
So what about the Nationals, you ask? Well, let me tell ya. The Nationals, who haven’t played the Cardinals yet this year, have it a little tougher. They play 19 of their remaining 47 games against winning teams (three against the Giants, six against the Braves, seven against the Cardinals and three against the Dodgers).
They have 28 games against sub .500 team (six against the Mets, nine against the Phillies, five against the Marlins, four against the Cubs and four against the Brewers.)
That schedule discrepancy accounts for a swing of about 3 ½ games. The Braves enter tonight’s game trailing the Nats in the standings by 4 ½ games.
Of course a lot can happen – and a lot will. It’s going to be an interesting finish, and I personally think it’s not a bad thing that the Braves will spend this September chasing, and not holding furiously to a wild-card lead. And yes, they want the division now more than ever, rather than a one-game playoff as one of the two wild-card teams.
Hanson update
Just wanted to include what Tommy Hanson said last night in Gwinnett after his five shutout innings in a rehab game. He’s wouldn’t be available to start until Friday at the earliest, so the Braves will probably take a few days before announcing their pitching plans and whether they’ll go to a six-man rotation for a while after Hanson returns from the DL.
But here’s what Hanson said after his start last night: “My back felt better, that was the main thing. I didn’t have much time to prepare for this start, but I still went out and made pitches. My off-speed stuff was really good. I felt really good with my curveball and slider. I feel good about the way I threw today. I’m looking forward to my next start.”
He threw 48 of his 78 pitches for strikes, gave up three hits, two walks and struck out five.
Braves lineup:
1. Michael Bourn CF
2. Martin Prado LF
3. Jason Heyward RF
4. Chipper Jones 3B
5. Freddie Freeman 1B
6. Dan Uggla 2B
7. Brian McCann C
8. Paul Janish SS
9. Mike Minor P
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nolie
August 13th, 2012
1:56 pm
sure cause we have never beaten any of those guys, or any other top-line pitchers either
JoshTown
August 13th, 2012
1:56 pm
Thanks Carroll! Looks to be a good ending to the season. If we just keep playing the way we have, we’ll be in great shape. Losing last night sucks, but hopefully gives the guys some confidence going into today after a great comeback. Go Braves!
Joe
August 13th, 2012
1:56 pm
first
Pace
August 13th, 2012
1:57 pm
Still think the six against the gNats are going to be the games that make or break the race for the Division.
nolie
August 13th, 2012
1:59 pm
well we should hope they are anyway Pace
Clayton
August 13th, 2012
2:00 pm
Looking forward to spending my 21st birthday watching the Bravos win with the high socks
nolie
August 13th, 2012
2:02 pm
Happy Birthday, but now you gone and put xtra pressure on them…..
Thaddeus
August 13th, 2012
2:05 pm
Sure, the Braves can win against a top line guy, but I’d hate to see a one game playoff against one of the 3 earlier mentioned. Especially Kershaw. I don’t know the stats, but from memory it seems like he’s really had the Braves’ number the past several times we’ve seen him.
ncscoots
August 13th, 2012
2:06 pm
Looking forward to seeing some mammo yickety from the middle of the order on this homestand.
Thaddeus
August 13th, 2012
2:07 pm
Of course, I mean that I’d hate to see the one game playoff as opposed to winning the division.
I’d love to see the one game playoff as opposed to missing the postseason completely…
Heisenberg
August 13th, 2012
2:09 pm
With the way Medlen has looked it could be that Minor is auditioning for his spot in the rotation (again) if Braves stick to 5 instead of going to 6. But he has shown a knack for bearing down when there is a gun pressed to his temple.
ncscoots
August 13th, 2012
2:09 pm
but I’d hate to see a one game playoff against one of the 3 earlier mentioned. Especially Kershaw.
You think any of those pitchers would look at this lineup and think “easy money”?
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
2:11 pm
(Chipper Jones is expected to get a rest day after last night’s late travel back from New York. Reed Johnson will likely be the in the lineup in left field and Martin Prado at third base.)
Would give Heyward tomorrow off…..
Just sayin.
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
2:12 pm
You think any of those pitchers would look at this lineup and think “easy money”?
Cough…..you could make a case for a LHP like Kershaw saying that……cough…
TennesseePaul
August 13th, 2012
2:13 pm
Thanks for the work CR.
GO BRAVES!!
Byron
August 13th, 2012
2:13 pm
“But they’ll play seven games against the Padres in the next 17 days, including three at Petco Park on July 27-29″
Maybe there is a time machine allowing the Braves to go back to playing more games in July. Probably should read August 27-29 and not July.
ncscoots
August 13th, 2012
2:14 pm
you could make a case for a LHP like Kershaw saying that
Not if Uggla is squared away. That changes the equation.
Heisenberg
August 13th, 2012
2:15 pm
You think any of those pitchers would look at this lineup and think “easy money”?
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Agreed ncscoots. But now I have an old REO speeedwagon song stuck in my head.
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
2:15 pm
Not if Uggla is squared away. That changes the equation.
Isn’t he worse vs. LHP over the course of his entire career? I could be wrong there, though.
veer
August 13th, 2012
2:16 pm
we have to win the division. we cant match the cardinals offense or kershaw or cain
ncscoots
August 13th, 2012
2:16 pm
Heisenberg, sorry for the ear-worm, man.
BF54
August 13th, 2012
2:17 pm
No time warps Byron this is a new year,although it would give me a extra birthday but i’m not readdy to be 55 yet,maybe next year
ncscoots
August 13th, 2012
2:18 pm
Isn’t he worse vs. LHP over the course of his entire career? I could be wrong there, though.
I doubt such stats calm a LHP facing him, if he’s swinging the bat well. Somebody can pull out a tape measure and show you the ledge is 15 inches wide, but that doesn’t make you confident enough to take a step forward.
JT Grace
August 13th, 2012
2:19 pm
Anyone else think these Romney ads are extremely irritating? It’s hard to even navigate on the page without that stupid thing popping up.
veer
August 13th, 2012
2:19 pm
Richards for Padres on Wed will be hard to beat. Next yr he will probably be one of the 10 best pitchers in the NL. Hudson needs to be on his game. No excuse to not win 3 out of 4 this series. If Giants can do their part then we will probably be within 2.5 games by Thursday
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
2:21 pm
Uggla vs. LHP for his career: .240/.344/.428
vs. LHP in 2011: .201/.288/.360
vs. LHP in 2012: .218/.378/.371
Capt.Mudd
August 13th, 2012
2:22 pm
“Pre-complaining,” and “Pre-blame,” May these interesting thoughts be applied to possible precomunications of pre-brain surgery?
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
2:22 pm
I doubt such stats calm a LHP facing him, if he’s swinging the bat well.
His presence does help, but I still really hope we face RHP in that one gamer – or every game from here on out for that matter…
Gustopher
August 13th, 2012
2:22 pm
Great blog Carroll.
Heisenberg
August 13th, 2012
2:23 pm
Reo Speedwagon
Easy Money lyrics
South of the border and busted,
Caught by a woman I trusted,
Now don’t you call me a fool,
It could have happened to you,
It’s just my luck,
It had to happen to me.
Sweet carmelita betrayed me
She said, “take me home, serenade me.”
I figured a song could do me no wrong.
I didn’t know how wrong I could be.
Easy money for just one run to peru.
It’ll be so easy. we’ll have no trouble gettin’ through.
Well I almost made it, except for that one border guard.
He opened up my guitar. hello prison yard.
Goodbye easy money. easy money.
The chiquita must have told ‘em my story
’cause when my eyes finally focused next morning
Carmelita had spoken ’bout guitars and some coke
And she laughed as they slapped me in chains.
I was thrown in cell with a killer.
A convict who coughed through the night.
While I laid awake with the chills and shakes,
Hoping for a file in a cake.
Easy money for just one run to peru.
It’ll be so easy. we’ll have no trouble gettin’ through.
Well I almost made it, except for that one border guard.
He opened up my guitar. hello prison yard.
Just to make me mad he smashed my guitar.
Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye,
Easy money
ncscoots
August 13th, 2012
2:25 pm
May these interesting thoughts be applied to possible precomunications of pre-brain surgery?
BF54
August 13th, 2012
2:28 pm
Obama to nasa workers ‘if in fact you do make contact with martians” …”please let me know”
good sense of humor
ncscoots
August 13th, 2012
2:28 pm
but I still really hope we face RHP in that one gamer – or every game from here on out for that matter
Well, they hospitalize RHP, that’s a fact. I’m all for your plan.
phil
August 13th, 2012
2:30 pm
34th or so!!
Another day off for Chipper? Seriously? Oh well…
Thaddeus
August 13th, 2012
2:30 pm
scoots
I don’t think anybody looks at the Braves lineup and thinks “easy money” by any means. I’m also not one of these pessimists that says we can’t win that game in that given situation. But when Kershaw is on, he’s gonna be tough for any lineup to score runs against. Nobody’s lights out every time they step out there, but that looming possibility would make me nervous about the game. I don’t think the Braves necessarily have a guy that imposing in the rotation.
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
2:34 pm
The Braves are 7th in team OPS, but are 2nd in runs scored in the National League.
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
2:34 pm
The Nationals actually have a better team OPS than we do – they rank 6th.
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
2:35 pm
Is it a stretch to say the Braves are the best baserunning team in the National League?
Heisenberg
August 13th, 2012
2:37 pm
” I don’t think the Braves necessarily have a guy that imposing in the rotation.”
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Maybe not in the rotation, but they do at the back end of the bullpen. Nobody wants to go into the 8th against Braves down a run or 2.
Capt.Mudd
August 13th, 2012
2:38 pm
Oye Como Va (State opens vs. Tech)
urban redneck
August 13th, 2012
2:39 pm
joe, you are a loser. only thing stupider than saying first is saying it and failing. that is just embarassing for you.
what’s going on in the FF/Jhey picture above?
Brian from SC
August 13th, 2012
2:39 pm
Efrim, it’s hard to really measure, but in the ways you can measure it, the Braves are stellar. I don’t think it’s a stretch to call them the best baserunning team in the league.
veer
August 13th, 2012
2:41 pm
Our best bet to winning the 1 game wildcard playoff is to hope that either the Pirates or the DBacks take the 2nd spot as we match much better aganist them.
You look at the Dodgers and Kershaw that guy will have the adredlin going and be hard to beat. The Giants are loaded with good pitchers and have Cain and then you have the Cardinals who have the best offense in the MLB and Wainwright is capable of shutting people down.
We might get lucky if Wainwright and Kershaw are pitching last game of the season and we end up missing them but again wildcard is not where i want to be bascially if we dont win the east then our season is over.
Capt.Mudd
August 13th, 2012
2:42 pm
Oh boy another ’shooting,’ Texas A&M
Thaddeus
August 13th, 2012
2:43 pm
“Maybe not in the rotation, but they do at the back end of the bullpen. Nobody wants to go into the 8th against Braves down a run or 2.”
Word.
nolie
August 13th, 2012
2:44 pm
Not if Uggla is squared away. That changes the equation….Scoots
now you know better than that, Uggla hits righties much better than lefties, almost like having another damn LHed hitter in the lineup
cricket
August 13th, 2012
2:47 pm
The Nationals are expected to have right-hander Stephen Strasburg miss two or three regular-season starts, according to a baseball source.
Strasburg, who is on an innings limit after having Tommy John surgery in late 2010, more than likely will pitch no more than 180 innings this season. There was talk of Strasburg pitching 160 innings this year, but the source said those amount of innings are not set in stone.
The same source went so far as to say Strasburg will not pitch in the postseason once he is shut down.
http://therocket.mlblogs.com/2012/08/12/plans-for-strasburg-garcia-to-be-called-up-by-nats-bourn-mum-on-free-agency/
nolie
August 13th, 2012
2:48 pm
according to ESPN Braves are tied for third in OBP in NL and are second in runs scored
Heisenberg
August 13th, 2012
2:49 pm
Can we all just agree that the WC crapshoot is less than desirable compared to being a division winner but better than being 3rd or lower in the WC standings?
Brian from SC
August 13th, 2012
2:50 pm
If the Nationals finish with something like 97 wins, which it looks like may come to pass, then a wild card is nothing to be ashamed of.
There’s still a lot of baseball to be played. 30% of the season left.
nolie
August 13th, 2012
2:50 pm
damn copycats sukk. should be shot….
Thaddeus
August 13th, 2012
2:50 pm
I can go with that Heisenberg.
Sundrop Kid
August 13th, 2012
2:52 pm
The period 17-26 Aug will either make or break the Braves season. Mark it down now. Also Braves need to hope for a Nats losing streak, otherwise it’s nothing but the wildcard. A one game wildcard and the Braves are out until next year.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
2:52 pm
Expecting an avg. of 2 yicketties and 1 mammo every day from this lineup… turn Petco into a hitter’s park
nolie
August 13th, 2012
2:52 pm
OBP has the highest correlation usually
veer
August 13th, 2012
2:53 pm
I think we have a team that is capable of winning the NLDS NLCS and WS bcause of our solid offense bullpen and starting pitching. Our biggest obsticle might just be winning that 1 game in the wildcard series. In a 7 game series we match up aganist any team but in a game series we don’t match so well with opposing aces
Thaddeus
August 13th, 2012
2:55 pm
agreed
nc fan
August 13th, 2012
2:58 pm
any time in the playoffs can win the world series,throw all the stats,out the book,ask the cardinals
Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol Fandango)
August 13th, 2012
2:58 pm
Lets see, late night last inning gasp before losing on national television, followed by cross country red eye flight. Then arriving in San Diego jet lagged in the wee hours of the morning, screwing up the entire teams sleep and arriving the the ball park feeling like road kill.
Then we get the joy of seeing another lefty on the mound. Joy, joy , joy and the inevitable loss that is about to happen tonight.
Hey, don’t say I didn’t try to warn everybody……..
Pace
August 13th, 2012
3:01 pm
Two posts about the Braves playing/flying to SD? Did the schedule change, I thought these 4 games were being played in Atlanta?
nc fan
August 13th, 2012
3:01 pm
lets see how this team reacts to playing the dodgers and giants
the braves should take 3/4 from the padres……but then again…
thanks jhey for the strikeout once again
chipper thanks you also
nc fan
August 13th, 2012
3:03 pm
the braves are at home
quit listening to the sheep and kool aid people
they still looking for that hope and change
Thaddeus
August 13th, 2012
3:03 pm
My MLB AT Bat app says the games are in ATL.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
3:03 pm
The same source went so far as to say Strasburg will not pitch in the postseason once he is shut down.
Bullcrap…. not that I wouldn’t mind it.
DAP
August 13th, 2012
3:03 pm
coach, except the braves are at home.
nc fan
August 13th, 2012
3:03 pm
jhey is trying to catch uggla on the strikeouts
nolie
August 13th, 2012
3:04 pm
it was coach Pace…ya gotta make exceptions….
phil
August 13th, 2012
3:04 pm
Hope doesn’t win championships…
Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol Fandango)
August 13th, 2012
3:04 pm
LOL, just messing with the locals. I know we are at home tonight, but it’s still fun to screw with people
nc fan
August 13th, 2012
3:04 pm
amazing how fredi can see the velocity of the ball from the dugout,and jhey thinks he is playing golf again
swung at balls all night
nolie
August 13th, 2012
3:05 pm
njbraves
August 13th, 2012
3:05 pm
I think the toughness of the schedule is a little misleading because of the Phillies. They’re having a bad season, but they still have those three great pitchers you have to deal with. Those six Phillie games won’t be easy.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
3:05 pm
My MLB AT Bat app says the games are in ATL.
Correct… I was looking at someone’s twitter feed, showing a picture of Petco… I apologize for my error.
nc fan
August 13th, 2012
3:05 pm
put prado in at ss
Kirk
August 13th, 2012
3:07 pm
@Jt Grace
Get yourself a pop up blocker. Ghostery does pop ups and trackers.
cricket
August 13th, 2012
3:07 pm
since when is NY to ATL flight considered cross country? thought they were playing at home
nc fan
August 13th, 2012
3:08 pm
just once i like to read chipper comments on how he screwed up in the 1st inning hitting into dp on 1st pitch never the less
of course no ajc writer will ask this since he is a god in atlanta
cricket
August 13th, 2012
3:09 pm
yep, phillies games are not a gimme due to their pitchers. same reason i was ok to see braves win series against them, tho sweep would’ve been great.
Brian from SC
August 13th, 2012
3:10 pm
nc fan, Chipper hit into a double play on the fourth pitch of the at-bat on a 1-2 count. Hit it hard too.
You might want to get your facts straight before spouting off about AJC writers.
nc fan
August 13th, 2012
3:10 pm
chipper mentioned on espn that he wants to spend a lot more time with his 4 bos which is a good thing…….didnt mention that a lot more times at hooters also.
chipper a piece of advice……you mite get the ajc writrs to to listen to what you say but no woman is going to put up with your bs
phil
August 13th, 2012
3:10 pm
The Cardinals got the hits, scored the runs, made the pitches and recorded the outs when they mattered.
That’s not luck, hope, chance, etc. That’s an excellent ballclub. Period.
cricket
August 13th, 2012
3:11 pm
chipper is on twitter now. why not ask him tough questions on twitter yourself?
phil
August 13th, 2012
3:12 pm
nc fan = doofus
nc fan
August 13th, 2012
3:12 pm
k brian still never hear him say i blew it now do you?
THOUGHT SO
Brave New World
August 13th, 2012
3:12 pm
It’s going to take about 95 wins to win The NL East. It’s going to take about 90 wins to be a Wild Card team. Braves are capable of either. So are Nats. I’m happy for Nats to be having a break out year. I’m even happier to see the collapse of the aging Phils. But what would make me happiest of all, would be The Braves winning a World Championship in 2012. GO BRAVES!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
3:12 pm
cricket
Heisenberg
August 13th, 2012
3:13 pm
“since when is NY to ATL flight considered cross country?”
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When you fly TWA and every flight had a layover in St. Louis. Wanna fly Atlanta to Charlotte? Sure but you had to go through St. Louis first. Wonder why TWA no longer exists?
nc fan
August 13th, 2012
3:13 pm
PHIL
TAKES ONE TO KNOW ONE
IDIOT
cricket
August 13th, 2012
3:14 pm
i’m willing to bet any amount that many more women will be willing to put up with chipper than with anyone else on this blog
SNEAKY PETE
August 13th, 2012
3:14 pm
nc fan = doofus @phil
now you are just being nice, doofus barely even starts to cover it
Brian from SC
August 13th, 2012
3:14 pm
k brian still never hear him say i blew it now do you?
Chipper’s built up enough collateral over his HOF career, and this season, to not have be accused of “blowing it” when he hits into a double play. Maybe you should call the AJC, get yourself a job as a sports writer since you know how to do it so well, and then you can ask him that to his face. And, please, please get it on camera. I’d pay to see it.
itsi
August 13th, 2012
3:15 pm
it is what it is
cant wait to see the game in san diego tonight
Pace
August 13th, 2012
3:15 pm
Kinda hate to post good news and break up this little tiff going on, but saw this and thought it was great news for the Braves going forward:
Andrelton Simmons @Andrelton
Man, I love Atlanta I hope I get to stay here for a while. It just feels like #thinkingoutloud
ncfan
August 13th, 2012
3:17 pm
as a fan i can say anything
just so you know last homestand i asked chipper when is he going to hooters again
itsi
August 13th, 2012
3:19 pm
petco park is nice cant wait
Heisenberg
August 13th, 2012
3:19 pm
I usually try not to make comments here about players personal lives but I got a laugh about Chipper saying he has not done well being married except for his marriage with Braves on a TV commercial that ran during recent games.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
3:20 pm
People seem to enjoy biting the dust around here…
itsi
August 13th, 2012
3:21 pm
since the game is at 710pm eastern,its 410pm in san diego,good thing chipper is not playing,that sun is tough at this time of day,dont want him to lose the ball in the sun
UKUGA
August 13th, 2012
3:22 pm
First
to mention the Lakers acquisition of Dwight Howard on today’s blog.
Go Lakers!
Go Braves!
veer
August 13th, 2012
3:22 pm
Why is Chipper’s wife leaving him? is this the same Hooters wife? I mean she isnt very decent girl as she was a hooter before. Anyon have any scoop on reason why she is leaving Jones?
JNick
August 13th, 2012
3:22 pm
nc fan, why are you trolling?
Kershaw is 0-0 w/ a 2.45 ERA since 2009 against the Braves (4 starts, 29 innings)
itsi
August 13th, 2012
3:23 pm
if people dont want there personal lives involved especially atheletes in the public everyday,then do the right thing and you have nothing to worry about huh chipper,chad johnson,etc.????
Tomahawkin
August 13th, 2012
3:23 pm
Trap Series against the Friars…Best Split this series, I’d like to take 3 but I will settle for a Split
Capt.Mudd
August 13th, 2012
3:25 pm
I need to edible an earlier post……see correction as follows, ……{}}[}4NUK8{}{{} __=___=___+____________LUV
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A
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H Mixed up fans…..even Mixxo’s/be friends
There’s too many lonely people in this world:……………………………………………………………………..just
luv ‘em best u can,,,,,,,,,A (V) for Very and (J) for Justified ……forgive and move on up.
itsi
August 13th, 2012
3:25 pm
this is not the same one,this is a different wife
never at home,if its not baseball,its deer hunting,needs to remarry the hooters girl now that he will have plenty of time after the season
UKUGA
August 13th, 2012
3:25 pm
Even if we beat the Pirates/D’backs, I don’t like playing Cincy in the first round. We don’t play well in that park.
IIRC, we would actually open up the series at home, then play games 3 through 5 in Cincy, due to the need to compress the travel schedule this year (and this year only).
I could really see a nightmarish final 3 games of that series, akin to what we experienced during our 4 game set in Cincy back in the spring.
Let’s win the division.
Go Braves!
njbraves
August 13th, 2012
3:25 pm
Nothing like talking about a mans wife…classy.
JNick
August 13th, 2012
3:25 pm
veer, Sharon Logonov wasn’t the Hooters girl that Chipper was having an affair with….he met her 4 months after his 1st divorce.
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
3:26 pm
3rd in OBP and a great baserunning team – that certainly helps.
now you know better than that, Uggla hits righties much better than lefties, almost like having another damn LHed hitter in the lineup
Yeah, 8th in OPS vs. LHP and I thought it’d be worse. .251/.324/.393.
Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol Fandango)
August 13th, 2012
3:27 pm
FYI…….trading Hanson has to be one of the options on the burner after the 2012 season ends, and I don’t say this lightly because most everybody knows I hate trading pitching. Especially starting pitching.
But the kid’s revamped mechanics have not improved his pitching, at all. If anything Tommy has regressed. His velocity is down (which shouldn’t be the main concern) but what bothers me is Hanson’s inability to locate his fastball consistently. Tomm’y walks are up, strike outs are down, he has just nine quality starts in twenty-two trips to the bump, and can’t get to or past the sixth inning nearly enough.
So I’m thinking this kid who is in his fourth full season as a starter is starting to fade already at the age of twenty-five. Something is amiss, to say the least.
Tomahawkin
August 13th, 2012
3:27 pm
UKUGA
“Even if we beat the Pirates/D’backs, I don’t like playing Cincy in the first round. We don’t play well in that park.”
Co-Sign
I’m calling it…We will lose that stupid 1 game wildcard elimination either via Bad Umpiring or Bad Luck (Errors, etc)
That WC playoff should be a best of 3
itsi
August 13th, 2012
3:27 pm
time for lunch
UKUGA
August 13th, 2012
3:28 pm
I don’t think Chipper every married the Hooter.
He did, of course, have a child with her, and he filed for divorce from his first wife, as I recall, because his wife did not want him to have a relationship with the child.
Again, I don’t think he married the waitress.
itsi
August 13th, 2012
3:29 pm
why r the braves playing a game at 410pm here?
nats are at 710pm
itsi
August 13th, 2012
3:29 pm
why r the braves playing a game at 410pm here?
nats are at 710pm
JNick
August 13th, 2012
3:29 pm
And way to stereotype and say that just b/c someone worked at Hooters means that they’re not decent.
Tomahawkin
August 13th, 2012
3:29 pm
@Coach
Good Point abt Big Red…He has regressed this year but can still win 15 games…That say a lot abt him getting decent run support this season…In Past years he pitched better but got crap run support….
JNick
August 13th, 2012
3:30 pm
itsi, the game is in Atlanta…
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
3:30 pm
Atlanta Braves @Braves
Tonight’s lineup vs. SD (7:10, SPSO/680AM/BRN): Bourn 8 Prado 7 Heyward 9 Jones 5 Freeman 3 Uggla 4 McCann 2 Janish 6 Minor 1
Looks like Chipper is playing…
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
3:30 pm
Atlanta Braves @Braves
Tonight’s lineup vs. SD (7:10, SPSO/680AM/BRN): Bourn 8 Prado 7 Heyward 9 Jones 5 Freeman 3 Uggla 4 McCann 2 Janish 6 Minor 1
Looks like Chipper is playing…
Pace
August 13th, 2012
3:31 pm
Chipper is in the lineup – so, no day off after that long (cross country
) flight.
cricket
August 13th, 2012
3:31 pm
pl. change the subject. let me try – individual RBIs are great way to measure a hitter’s worth.
that should do it.
itsi
August 13th, 2012
3:32 pm
njbraves
August 13th, 2012
3:25 pm
Nothing like talking about a mans wife…classy
read the 1st ammendment
ever heard about freedom of speech?
do the right thing otherwise see you at hooters chipper!!!!
Pace
August 13th, 2012
3:32 pm
Minor has a 1.99 ERA in the second half of the season? Knew he had stepped up his game, but that’s just crazy. Perfect time for it.
I like the Braves’ chances tonite.
cricket
August 13th, 2012
3:33 pm
JNick itsi, the game is in Atlanta…
come on man, we were supposed to keep it a secret from him..
itsi
August 13th, 2012
3:33 pm
chipper should be playing……..
not like he has a wife to come home to……..
hooters was closed when they got home
MFin04
August 13th, 2012
3:34 pm
“The same source went so far as to say Strasburg will not pitch in the postseason once he is shut down. ”
Does anyone actually believe that? NO WAY that happens. About as likely as Harper being sent down or not winning ROY.
JNick
August 13th, 2012
3:34 pm
…learn to spell “amendment”
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
3:34 pm
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
#Braves lineup (vs SD/Stults): Bourn 8, Prado 7, Heyward 9, Jones 5, Freeman 3, Uggla 4, McCann 2, Janish 6, Minor 1
itsi
August 13th, 2012
3:35 pm
i know where the game is played….
put prado in at ss
phil
August 13th, 2012
3:35 pm
That’s better. Chipper needs to be in there.
As for you, nc fan, which is it? nc fan or ncfan?
And aside from that, you offer not one redeeming thing to this forum other than lame Hooters references. I may not offer very much myself, but you appear to be in the running for imbecile of the day now that Mixxo has been canned.
fair game
August 13th, 2012
3:36 pm
itsi
still lmao on last comment
MFin04
August 13th, 2012
3:36 pm
“Looks like Chipper is playing…”
That’s good, but it seems silly not to have Reed Johnson hitting against lefties somewhere in the lineup. Can he play SS?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
3:36 pm
itsi is another example of the product of our public schools. What a shame…
veer
August 13th, 2012
3:37 pm
JNick ofcourse Hooters girl arent decent. Are strippers decent? Not someone whom you would want to bring home and introduce to your family and parents. All this happend to Chipper at the wrong time
He will no longer have a wife or a baseball career. Half of his earnings probably gone through divorce. He is older now where by he wont be able to get a 22 26 yr old woman. At best he will be stuck with another middle age divocee. Sad turn of events for Chipper
phil
August 13th, 2012
3:37 pm
itsi – looks like you’re trying to give ncfan a run for his money in the thick head department….sigh
JNick
August 13th, 2012
3:38 pm
I’d put Wade Miley at the top of the NL ROY vote right now…look at Harper’s stats, he’s tanked it since the ASB…
itsi
August 13th, 2012
3:38 pm
saw on mlbtraderumors.com that atl.should offer extension on prado
i think if they bought a house for his mother,prado did say he missed her last year with visa problems,that would seal the deal
ChipperisGod
August 13th, 2012
3:39 pm
Just gotta keep taking care of business. Won both those series on the road which is huge (wish we could have swept last night, so close!), so just take three of four here, hope the Giants help out against Nats (which they definitely can), and then really bare down against the Dodgers, Nats, and Giants. I think we can take a series from the Dodgers, Nats will be super close (but I think they ultimately take us in this one, but we beat em at home), and I think we split against the Giants in a four game set.
If that’s the case, then if everything works out how I think it will, We’ll be 74-54 before we take on the Padres, Phils and Rockies going into September. As long as the Braves take care of business as they’ve been doing this entire second half, we should get the wild card, and we still have a shot at the division as well.
Go Braves!
JNick
August 13th, 2012
3:40 pm
veer – wow…you just likened a Hooters girl to a stripper? Sad…
Heisenberg
August 13th, 2012
3:40 pm
Poor misunderstood Chad Johnson. That box of condoms was not for him. He was gonna send it to London for the party in the Olympic village as his way of supporting our athletes.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
3:40 pm
If it were me, I’d have given Heyward the day off and let Reed play… A .353/.421/.412/.833 line in 17 ABs since coming to the Braves. And a 127 OPS+!!!
I would love to see Reed get some more ABs, but the lineup is fine… need to get all our regulars hitting.
raleighbravefan
August 13th, 2012
3:40 pm
nc fan (or ncfan…one is probably fake) is obviously trolling for a reaction…and got some. No one could actually be that big a moron.
itsi
August 13th, 2012
3:41 pm
chipper has a ranch in texas
everything is big in texas,including the women he will be fine there
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
3:41 pm
Veer has issues…
itsi
August 13th, 2012
3:42 pm
raleigh brave fan
im sorry for your loss living in such a slowwwwwwwwwwww city where iq is 20
phil
August 13th, 2012
3:42 pm
I just wish posters here would learn how to spell judgment….
most stick an e in after the g…..
itsi
August 13th, 2012
3:42 pm
u must live near crabtreevalley
Juan
August 13th, 2012
3:43 pm
itsi….I think chipper live in Fla in the off season. The ranch in TX is an investment that his Father run.
phil
August 13th, 2012
3:43 pm
Heisenberg
August 13th, 2012
3:40 pm
Poor misunderstood Chad Johnson. That box of condoms was not for him. He was gonna send it to London for the party in the Olympic village as his way of supporting our athletes.
*************
LOL….of course!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
3:44 pm
itsi: I think you’re the one with an IQ of 20…. that is, if you are even smart enough to have an IQ. You would get a 0 on your Wunderlic.
raleighbravefan
August 13th, 2012
3:44 pm
veer trolling also…or else he should consider the (lack of ) wisdom of throwing the first stone…not to mention slander and character assasination.
itsi
August 13th, 2012
3:44 pm
let me guess you actually moved from up north to raleigh
enjoy your hockey
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
3:44 pm
If it were me, I’d have given Heyward the day off and let Reed play…
I’m sort of hoping that comes tomorrow vs. Clayton Richard. Just hope Fredi has the sense to rest him vs. a LHP and he’s struggled in his last 9 games – most of August.
Brand-New
August 13th, 2012
3:45 pm
I agree with itsi, locking up Prado should be a top priority, he’s done everything you could ask a player to do for this team.
phil
August 13th, 2012
3:45 pm
Veer is doing great compared to ncfan and itsi….
JNick
August 13th, 2012
3:45 pm
@phil, judgement is still correct, for those who spell “color” as “colour”
Thank Webster’s Dictionary for dropping the “e”
TennesseePaul
August 13th, 2012
3:45 pm
Last 9 Starts of the Starting 9
_________AVG__OBP__SLG___OPS_wOBA_L9S9+
Bourn__ .278 .409 .417 0.826 .375 __132
Prado__ .222 .333 .333 0.667 .307 ___87
Heyward .194 .256 .417 0.673 .288 ___87
Chipper .267 .405 .367 0.772 .319 __117
Freeman .258 .395 .516 0.911 .396 __154
Uggla__ .313 .405 .500 0.905 .397 __153
McCann_ .219 .359 .344 0.703 .308 ___98
Janish_ .182 .229 .212 0.441 .205 ___24
Minor__ .000 .056 .000 0.056 .036 __-84
athens drive fan
August 13th, 2012
3:46 pm
sign josh hamilton……my hero
Capt.Mudd
August 13th, 2012
3:47 pm
@Veer……..Yes, it is sad…..we all make mistakes…..we fall, get up…etc. Best to let Chipper get up and move on accordingly—and, of course you are aware…there are some super foxy 34 ish women out there–and, yes, most have has a go at marriage and it failed….but they are a lot of great ones who would make lovely, faithful wifes.
amazed
August 13th, 2012
3:48 pm
nly blog where no age limit is required
amazed
August 13th, 2012
3:48 pm
Enter your comments here
raleighbravefan
August 13th, 2012
3:48 pm
itsi – Who rattled your cage? I don’t recall addressing you. Plus, you know nothing about me. I don’t live near Crabtree Valley, (none of your business, btw) but I don’t understand how that is relevent to anything.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
3:49 pm
Josh Hamilton…. Who is athens drive fan anyway? itsi again?
Capt.Mudd
August 13th, 2012
3:49 pm
Sorry for the typos…my keys are sticking due to spillage earlier
DAP
August 13th, 2012
3:50 pm
im glad chipper is in there tonight. he has a career .324/.385/.583 line at petco. git ‘em hoss!
Murph
August 13th, 2012
3:51 pm
Braves record at the conclusion of games on August 12, 2011: 70 – 49
Braves record at the conclusion of games on August 12, 2012: 66 – 48
What does this tell us? Absolutely nothing. A lot can happen in the last 6 weeks of the season. A lot of guys on here are going to worry themselves right into a stroke if they keep going the way they are.
Capt.Mudd
August 13th, 2012
3:51 pm
Athens Drive….isn’t that a high school in NC….Triangle area??? Raleigh or Cary???
raleighbravefan
August 13th, 2012
3:51 pm
itsi – Again, what is your problem? I haven’t even spoken to you.
You guessed wrong, by the way.
JNick
August 13th, 2012
3:52 pm
For the last time, they’re not playing at Petco tonight…the game is in Atlanta….r-ts
Murph
August 13th, 2012
3:52 pm
everything is big in texas,including the women he will be fine there
You obviously have never been to Texas.
raleighbravefan
August 13th, 2012
3:53 pm
DAP – They aren’t at Petco tonight.
Jeff R
August 13th, 2012
3:54 pm
Itsi = Itsy-bitsy twit.
Who cares about Chipper’s personal life, pea-brain.
Capt.Mudd
August 13th, 2012
3:55 pm
And…”wife’s” oh my….wives….this cough med is making me outlandishly coo, coo this evening.
amazed
August 13th, 2012
3:55 pm
posters here are amazing,some as young as 13 see amber
raleighbravefan
August 13th, 2012
3:56 pm
Capt.Mudd – Athens Drive, where Josh was an obvious HS star, is in Raleigh…Not far from the PNC Arena (Formerly RBC Center)…home of the WolfPack and Hurricanes.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
3:56 pm
posters here are amazing,some as young as 13 see amber
How about ” posters here are amazing, some with IQs as low as 13. See itsi”
unbelievable
August 13th, 2012
3:56 pm
The team that signs Josh Hamilton this offseason is going to hate the final years of that contract. BTW, he’s sporting a .289OBP since the AllStar break
SNEAKY PETE
August 13th, 2012
3:57 pm
won’t be the Braves, that’s for sure
phil
August 13th, 2012
3:58 pm
itsi bitsy johnson…..
that’s better.
DAP
August 13th, 2012
3:58 pm
mccann also lights it up at petco. .358/.463/.627 with 21 RBI in 20 games! wow! and they say its a pitcher park. dont tell mccann or chipper, especially not tonight.
JNick
August 13th, 2012
3:59 pm
Hamilton broke out of his slump – his OPS for August is .969
SNEAKY PETE
August 13th, 2012
4:00 pm
we won’t tell them tonight since they are in Atlanta, but maybe next series it will leak out
SNEAKY PETE
August 13th, 2012
4:01 pm
who cares about Hamilton, he’ll never be a Brave
CrαZy
August 13th, 2012
4:02 pm
funny how itsi and ncfan always troll in lower case…
Just a coincidence I’m sure?
JNick
August 13th, 2012
4:02 pm
Trade McCann straight up for Headley…
Juan
August 13th, 2012
4:02 pm
Wow i didn’t know that Neil Walker of the Pirates was the son of Tom Wlaker..i just lean that in today MLB Networt “The Rundown” interview of Neal
Here’s the story:
In 1972, while playing winter ball in Puerto Rico, Tom helped Roberto Clemente load a plane carrying relief supplies to survivors of a massive earthquake in Nicaragua after Christmas. He offered to accompany Clemente on the trip to island nation, but the plane was full and Clemente told him to stay behind and enjoy his New Year’s Eve. A few hours later, Tom returned to his condo and saw the news reports that Clemente’s plane had crashed off the coast of Isla Verde, Puerto Rico and he would have died in crash if it wasn’t for Clemente’s decision.Enter your comments here
Ward
August 13th, 2012
4:04 pm
Hello everyone! I think Braves should trade Hanson, and Huddy in order to sign Bourn. How’s it all going?
CrαZy
August 13th, 2012
4:04 pm
itsi – looks like you’re trying to give ncfan a run for his money in the thick head department….sigh
And that’s a hard thing to do when you’re 1 person with 2 monikers.
DAM
August 13th, 2012
4:04 pm
How can so many people not realize that the series is in Atlanta? This is really strange.
amazed
August 13th, 2012
4:04 pm
this team is all about drunks,see lowe,hansen,mommy issues,see prado,marital issues see chipper
too much drama to overcome bring on the excuses
schilling was right on espn last night……..
BRAVES WILL NOT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS
Ward
August 13th, 2012
4:05 pm
Hamilton is higher priced than Bourn, and think he will stay a Ranger.
JNick
August 13th, 2012
4:05 pm
Hudson is a 10/5 player now, he’d veto any trade. Besides, he has one year left, and isn’t something that’d keep us from signing Bourn long term.
Hanson, I’m all for trading…
amazed
August 13th, 2012
4:05 pm
NATS SWEPT THE ASTROS…..SOMETHING BRAVES CANT DO
GO 2-2 AGAINST SAN DIEGO
WATCH
CrαZy
August 13th, 2012
4:06 pm
Ward…. set these fools straight!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
4:06 pm
Ward: For like the 1 millionth time, Huddy is not getting traded. You can decide to not pick up his option (which I don’t think will happen), but you can not trade Hudson. You can not trade Hudson.
Do you understand that now?
unbelievable
August 13th, 2012
4:06 pm
Hudson has 10-5 rights and would have to accept any trade. Im up to the idea of moving Hanson, but I hate selling low.
amazed
August 13th, 2012
4:07 pm
STILL DONT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY R PLAYING A GAME AT 410PM
THOUGHT WEST COAST GAMES STARTED AT NIGHT EXCEPT THE LAST ONE?
OH WELL ANOTHER LOSS
Ward
August 13th, 2012
4:07 pm
I heard a strange rumor that Johnny Damon might be a good fit to help the Braves down the stretch, but looked at other Braves Team Reports, and found nothing. Think ESPN is just creating things again. Wouldn’t mind Damon down the stretch thoough.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 13th, 2012
4:07 pm
DAP—
They’re playing here at home…:)
But maybe we should still tell them they’re at Petco—might bring BMac back again!…
CrαZy
August 13th, 2012
4:07 pm
When are you going to understand that we aren’t going to trade Hudson? He’s a 10/5 player who is relativ…….. screw it whatever you say!!
DAP
August 13th, 2012
4:08 pm
i feel a little guilty…like what im doing constitutes trolling…
i repent!
unbelievable
August 13th, 2012
4:08 pm
Ward, I dont see Damon being a good fit. He’s done.
Ward
August 13th, 2012
4:08 pm
CraZy – They might set me straight out of here in a few minutes. No one seems to like my ideas …….
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 13th, 2012
4:08 pm
Who’s playing @ 4:10? What the crud is going on around here??…
Chipper Jones
August 13th, 2012
4:09 pm
yes guys im playing tonite
i dont have a woman,and hooters was closed
CrαZy
August 13th, 2012
4:09 pm
amazed….
The Caps Lock button is located beside the a button on your keyboard… I think you might’ve accidentally hit it or something?
Ward
August 13th, 2012
4:09 pm
Damon was with the Indians……Hello! Who would play well for them right now?
lillypad
August 13th, 2012
4:10 pm
nothing but rainbows here
CrαZy
August 13th, 2012
4:10 pm
No one seems to like my ideas …….
Geez…. I wonder why?
lillypad
August 13th, 2012
4:11 pm
mcfann
why doyou have such a love fetish with mcann?
you must be a teenager here
JNick
August 13th, 2012
4:11 pm
McFann, just the typical 12 year old trolls…
DAM
August 13th, 2012
4:12 pm
McFann — apparently some on here got confused about the location for this series and thought it was in San Diego and then interpreted the 7:10 EDT start as 4:10 PDT …
lillypad
August 13th, 2012
4:13 pm
jnick
it is what it is
DAP
August 13th, 2012
4:13 pm
the game has started and im stuck at work. anyone with the play by play?
Ward
August 13th, 2012
4:14 pm
I wont be upset “if” Braves lose Bourn, as long as a good replacement is in Centerfield.
weeeeeeeeee
August 13th, 2012
4:14 pm
petco is nice hope they win
Murph
August 13th, 2012
4:14 pm
I think Braves should trade Hanson, and Huddy in order to sign Bourn.
1. Hudson has an option for next year… if the Braves didn’t want to spend money on him (or spend his money elsewhere), they simply just don’t pick up his option. He would no longer be a Brave in that case.
2. Hudson also has 10-5 rights (in the league for 10 years, with the same team for 5 years)… having 10-5 rights means he can reject any trade the Braves make that involves him. So, picking up his option with the intention of then trading him isn’t likely going to work.
3. Hudson also qualifies for the little known “H-Clause” of the most recent CBA (Correlated Bartering Agreement). Being that next year is an odd year (1, 3, 5, 7, etc) and his last name falls under the H-Q alphabetical range, he can invoke the “H-Clause” and automatically extend his contract until the next odd year. So, if Hudson were to choose this, his contract would be automatically renew for 2013, 2014, and 2015.
Hope this helps you Ward.
phil
August 13th, 2012
4:15 pm
Damon?
Ward, the guy was done last year, if not the year before.
CrαZy
August 13th, 2012
4:15 pm
JNick it’s just 1 troll! Next time he gets off the school Bus his driver should run him over!!
Heisenberg
August 13th, 2012
4:15 pm
You may be stuck at work a bit longer but the game has not started!
weeeeeeeeee
August 13th, 2012
4:16 pm
bourn grounded out
prado single
heyward single
CHIPPER ANOTHER DPLAY
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
4:16 pm
Damon!?! Wow, Ward you just lost all your credibility… Wait, you had some? Can’t lose what you don’t have…
Ward
August 13th, 2012
4:17 pm
Murph – Already knew, but yopun never know? Some one will have to go in order to get Bourn?
Ward
August 13th, 2012
4:17 pm
Meant to say never know…….
BRAVES FAN
August 13th, 2012
4:17 pm
THANKS FOR THE PLAY BY PLAY IM AT WORK HOPE THEY WIN
CrαZy
August 13th, 2012
4:17 pm
Ward….
Read Murph’s post @ 4:14 it is 100% correct most people don’t know about the “H-Clause” , but it is in fact real and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Huddy use it!!
Ward
August 13th, 2012
4:18 pm
I really believe some one will go, and we wont like who, but that’s the way it goes….
Ward
August 13th, 2012
4:19 pm
CraZy – We saw Dempster use it well….
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
4:19 pm
Crazy: I’m convinced that these trolls aren’t little kids who go to school. No school-age child can be that dumb… even the public schooled ones. These people have to be in jail or an asylum.
CrαZy
August 13th, 2012
4:20 pm
Ward the “H Clause” means he can’t be traded he’s a locked player not allowed to be traded PERIOD… It’s a Federal law that MLB players union had the congress pass last year!
Heisenberg
August 13th, 2012
4:20 pm
the little known “H-Clause”????????????????
Chipper falls into that group also.
phil
August 13th, 2012
4:20 pm
The moron level this afternoon is at an alltime high in my 18 months here….
What the heck?
Ward
August 13th, 2012
4:22 pm
phil – Masybe your the moron? You seem to be critic of everyone esle today…..
phil
August 13th, 2012
4:22 pm
That damn Chipper….
CrαZy
August 13th, 2012
4:22 pm
CraZy – We saw Dempster use it well….
See that’s where you’re confused Dempster wasn’t eligible yet…
Ward
August 13th, 2012
4:23 pm
Maybe being a moron fits yoy well today phil?
phil
August 13th, 2012
4:23 pm
Ward – Why go there? I wasn’t referring to you and never do. You seem to like to pick me out for some kind of crap every few weeks.
What the hell is your problem?
Pace
August 13th, 2012
4:24 pm
MLB: the Braves are going to a 6 man rotation until the next off day.
After the off day (31 Aug) – going to a 5 man rotation
Ward
August 13th, 2012
4:24 pm
CaZy – I can be confused some times anyways……Litltle humor.
fleming
August 13th, 2012
4:24 pm
Ward -
The A-I clause was last year. Dempster missed it.
Heisenberg
August 13th, 2012
4:25 pm
Skul strated twoday all the smert peepul whent too klass
Ward
August 13th, 2012
4:25 pm
O.K. phil, I’ll ease up on you……
Pace
August 13th, 2012
4:25 pm
So – which pitcher will be the odd man out? And is the Pen short or the bench the next 20 games?
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 13th, 2012
4:25 pm
JNick, DAM—
Ah! Gotcha…
lillypad you must be a teenager here
Only here, though? I guess that works…You cann run with that if you wannoo…
CrαZy
August 13th, 2012
4:28 pm
TOBF
the Trolls or troll all type the same and misspell the same words… Doubt it’s more than 1 person!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
4:28 pm
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
Fredi said braves will go to 6-man rotation through Aug. 29
Pace: I’d guess/hope that Avilan goes down… with Venters appearing to have figured it out, don’t need 3 lefties… and Avilan was brought up when Venters went down.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
4:29 pm
MLB @MLB
We mourn the passing of @RedSox icon Johnny Pesky, who died today at the age of 92.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
4:29 pm
DLowe signed to a MAJOR LEAGUE contract by the NY Yankees – unbelievable, as poor as he’s pitched since May.
Glad Wren just chuckled when his agent contacted the Braves.
Ward
August 13th, 2012
4:30 pm
Like it or not some one will have to go in order to keep Bourn. If no one goes? We will lose Bourn……All have a good one, and talk later…… Keep me intact down the stretch, so I don’t became insane……These last games will still be tough, so all please keep me calm, as I’m working on it. Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
Pace
August 13th, 2012
4:31 pm
TOBF – I figured he’d go down, but that does leave a short pen, but…with Gwinnett so close, guess you could move relievers back and forth if someone gets used too much (Gearin)
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
4:31 pm
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
The #Braves six man rotation will go through Aug 29th. After that, they’ll go with the five starters who are pitching the best
Just delaying “the decision”
Pace
August 13th, 2012
4:33 pm
And, with a six man rotation and a ‘competition’ to determine who are the five starters going into September – I would imagine we’ll see the starters excelling. Might be a great run till the end of August.
Heisenberg
August 13th, 2012
4:33 pm
I would think if 6-man rotation, then go 1 less in pen. If you believe you have 6 guys good enough to start then they are expected to go 6 or more innings every time out to ease bullpen load. The worse case scenario is an extra inning game but there you can use next day starter for multiple innings or another starter for 1-2 innings who would be throwing between starts.
kenhotlanta
August 13th, 2012
4:33 pm
Josh Carey is a reporter on 106.7FM, the new 24 hour all news station in the ATL. He sounds better that he did calling games, so I guess Chip is the last of the Careys to broadcast games.
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
4:34 pm
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
Fredi said braves will go to 6-man rotation through Aug. 29
Sigh….not optimal, imo.
CrαZy
August 13th, 2012
4:34 pm
Like it or not some one will have to go in order to keep Bourn. If no one goes? We will lose Bourn
Have you crunched the numbers?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
4:35 pm
Just stick Hanson in the ‘pen, tell him not to curse at Fredi
in my opinion. He’s been the “worst” of the 5 lately… and he hasn’t even stunk up the joint!
raleighbravefan
August 13th, 2012
4:35 pm
ncfan/itsi must have left…and good riddance. Obviously sam numbnutz….I said something to ncfan, and itsi got insulted.
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
4:36 pm
17 games in 17 days – so I’m guessing Hanson will get 3 starts in that stretch. It’s really between him and Medlen, right?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
4:36 pm
Jayson Stark @jaysonst
He’d be my runner-up. But I don’t agree with the folks who say he’s been better than Chapman. RT @Llcooldaf1 How about Kimbrel for Cy Young?
Jayson is wrong… he’s better than Chapman. No, I’m not a homer
Heisenberg
August 13th, 2012
4:36 pm
Just delaying “the decision”
*******************
So ESPN will have a 1 hour special when Fredi announces his rotation for September?
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
4:37 pm
Just stick Hanson in the ‘pen
I’m rooting for Hanson and I hope he pitches well. Medlen makes more sense in the pen for right now, but whatever.
CrαZy
August 13th, 2012
4:38 pm
6 man rotation means 1 less in the pen. Hope we get a consistent 6+ every night from the starting 6.
Jay Dubu
August 13th, 2012
4:38 pm
“i’m willing to bet any amount that many more women will be willing to put up with chipper than with anyone else on this blog”
Can you pay up if you lose?
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
4:39 pm
So, Hanson goes Friday vs. the Dodgers?
DAP
August 13th, 2012
4:40 pm
efrim David O’Brien @ajcbraves
Fredi said braves will go to 6-man rotation through Aug. 29
Sigh….not optimal, imo.
could it be something we dont know? like someone is feeling worn down or something?
Pace
August 13th, 2012
4:40 pm
I think Medlen is the first name that comes to mind when deciding who goes to the pen in Sept., but every time he starts, it’s a quality start and the Braves WIN.
I think one of the other five is more likely than Medlen to go to the pen. Fredi included “healthiest five” in his statment.
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
4:40 pm
Kimbrel, EOF, Venters, Durbin, Martinez and either Gearrin or Avilan.
I’d send Gearrin down.
CrαZy
August 13th, 2012
4:40 pm
I’d go with a 6 man also if I was the Braves… If Hanson comes back and is strong I’d move Med’s to the pen if Hanson comes back and it’s more of the same… I’d move him to the pen or call up someone else for the pen. I think it’s a good short term move just to give everyone an extra day and to see what Tommy can do over 2 or 3 starts.
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
4:41 pm
I don’t know, DAP – I just hate the idea of a six-man rotation.
raleighbravefan
August 13th, 2012
4:42 pm
Efrim – Which 5 would you go with? (serious question)
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
4:42 pm
I’m rooting for Hanson to shine again. Or at the very least, out together a sub-4 ERA.
Long time fan
August 13th, 2012
4:42 pm
Might be a good idea to give JHey a day off along the way. Not much you can say about the loss on Sunday. IT happens. Hopefully we get the Dads tonight but you never know.
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
4:43 pm
Medlen in the pen, raleigh. He has experience in the swing role. Keep him there for now and talk about a move permanantly to the rotation in 2013.
CrαZy
August 13th, 2012
4:43 pm
Efrim…I just hate the idea of a six-man rotation.
I do to, but in this situation for a few weeks I can understand… I’d hate to move Meds down to the pen just to have to move him back if Hanson doesn’t pitch well.
Heisenberg
August 13th, 2012
4:43 pm
Also rosters expand Sept 1st so they just gotta get through this stretch of games with a short bullpen.
Sowega Fanatic
August 13th, 2012
4:44 pm
Wow, the blog has REALLY gone off the deep end today. Idiots abound.
cricket
August 13th, 2012
4:44 pm
stop whatever you are doing folks
Yes time travel is possible. Will explain later.
— Jose Canseco (@JoseCanseco) August 13, 2012
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
4:45 pm
FYI – Medlen’s 3 starts have come against the Marlins(no Stanton), Astros and Mets.
phil
August 13th, 2012
4:45 pm
Ward…You’re dead to me now, not that it matters.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
4:45 pm
Efrim: I’m all for Tommy getting it together, and I prefer Meds in the ‘pen, but the truth is, Medlen is one of our top 2/3 starters right now…. he’s outperforming Tommy. We just might have to suck it up and go with him down the stretch.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
4:45 pm
six man rotation changes the pitchers routine, but it does allow an extra day of rest for each of them for the next 26 days or so.
Long season, pitching in the heat, hopefully the extra two/three days rest the starters get will help in Sept.
And I do like the idea of a competition – as long as none are guaranteed a slot – will make for some interesting pitching the rest of the month.
phil
August 13th, 2012
4:46 pm
Jose Canseco….lord, deliver us from this lunacy.
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
4:46 pm
Also rosters expand Sept 1st so they just gotta get through this stretch of games with a short bullpen.
So they are going to a short bullpen in a stretch where they have no days off? I hope the offense is ready to crush the baseball. Of course, the Nats, Giants and Dodgers actually have good pitching – so that’ll be kinda tough.
cricket
August 13th, 2012
4:46 pm
Idiots abound.
don’t worry. it’s mainly one guy trolling using his multiple avatars simultaneously.
Murph
August 13th, 2012
4:47 pm
They could go with a 7-man rotation and bring back JJ as well.
Wouldn’t that be a hoot? So long as JJ and Hanson aren’t going back to back the team might still be able to win whatever series they appear in.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
4:48 pm
FYI – Medlen’s 3 starts have come against the Marlins(no Stanton), Astros and Mets.
True, but Meds start against the Marlins looked better than Hanson’s start against the Marlins… Hanson has struggled quite a bit lately.
phil
August 13th, 2012
4:48 pm
Hudson is headed for the DL later this week if he stumbles again. The ankle will be blamed, and probably rightly so.
After his stint, then the decision gets made, and maybe by then, a choice is obvious.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
4:49 pm
They could go with a 7-man rotation and bring back JJ as well.
Oh gawd, no… Just keep him away. Let him stay on the DL til season’s end…
cricket
August 13th, 2012
4:49 pm
no worries about short bullpen – move last reliever to LF and pitch Prado
Pace
August 13th, 2012
4:51 pm
cricket – Chipper has said the one thing he wants to do before the season is over is pitch an inning – so…move Prado to 3rd, reliever to LF and let the old man throw one.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
4:51 pm
Heading home now, be back later.
CrαZy
August 13th, 2012
4:52 pm
7 man rotations
That’s something we won’t have to deal with for at least another 20 years…
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
4:52 pm
don’t worry. it’s mainly one guy trolling using his multiple avatars simultaneously.
Very true. Multiple names here is pretty common, I think. You can just tell as some of them don’t even bother to change their writing style or use of caps, etc.
MikeInFl
August 13th, 2012
4:53 pm
They could go with a 7-man rotation and bring back JJ as well.
What about Delgado? 8-man rotation!!!
Jimmy
August 13th, 2012
4:53 pm
So we’ve got a 10:35 start. I hate those West Coast games.
cricket
August 13th, 2012
4:54 pm
Pace – i remember he also wanted to man CF once. i nominate WC playoff game for chipper in CF for 1 inning and prado pitching during the same inning. braves may lose but no one will remember who won the damn game
phil
August 13th, 2012
4:55 pm
Maybe most of you are just kidding but….
The game is in Atlanta. Start time is 7ish.
Sigh.
Murph
August 13th, 2012
4:55 pm
What about Delgado? 8-man rotation!!!
Now we’re talking… put Teheran in the bullpen to pitch long relief on the nights when JJ/Hanson/Delgado can’t get out of the 3rd and we’re in business!
MikeInFl
August 13th, 2012
4:56 pm
Appears to me the Braves could afford Boun at 12-13 mil, Headley at 6 mil, and Sheets at 5 mil, and keep the rest of the team pretty much intact. Doubt much of that will happen, but I think the money is there to do it.
CrαZy
August 13th, 2012
4:56 pm
eeeeffffiiit…. Let’s just use Johnny Whole-Staff every night…
Jimmy
August 13th, 2012
4:58 pm
Send Chad Durbin down, let him stretch out his arm, insert into rotation. I’m up to a nine man rotation now.
Or just call up Evan Gattis.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
4:58 pm
How do you think JJ is feeling right about now? Relegated to the DL, not even mentioned in the mix right now.
Not sure I’d want to be his agent if he was my only client
(Scott Boras guy I know)
MikeInFl
August 13th, 2012
4:59 pm
How do you think JJ is feeling right about now?
We don’t care how he feels. He pitched poorly. He is dead to us now.
cricket
August 13th, 2012
4:59 pm
What about Delgado? 8-man rotation!!!
hey hey, i proposed that idea sometime back
1st 4 guys start games as usual. no. 5 starts 5th game and no. 6 finishes it. no. 7 and 8 share 6th game in similar fashion. 4 relievers will be enough with this revolutionary arrangement
Speedy Gone zalez
August 13th, 2012
5:00 pm
Dave, any chance the Bravos go after Youkilis @ 3rd?
Pace
August 13th, 2012
5:00 pm
MikeinFL – Bourn at 12-13M? He’s going to go for so much more than that unfortunately. I’d love to see the team keep him, but he’s going to cost more than that (Boras client)
Jimmy
August 13th, 2012
5:01 pm
phil – Yeah, just messing around. Seems to me that serious fans know the schedule, or can look at it if not sure.
Maybe asking too much.
But I am serious about Gattis!
Murph – New truck yet? And don’t punch me in the face for asking.
ChattTownBrian
August 13th, 2012
5:03 pm
I like the 6 man rotation for us. Huddy’s ankle and also Sheets could probably use that extra day since he’s still sort of getting back in the groove of things after a long layoff.
cricket
August 13th, 2012
5:03 pm
Youkilis has a team option at 13M next year. possible target but should be at bottom of the list.
MikeInFl
August 13th, 2012
5:04 pm
So they say, Pace. We’ll see.
Mixxo
August 13th, 2012
5:06 pm
oh
cricket
August 13th, 2012
5:07 pm
Boras is going to play nats against phils and get a monster deal for Bourn. he’s a gonner imo.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
5:09 pm
MikeinFL – well, if it’s strictly $, I’m afraid Bourn is gone, and probably either to the gNats or Phillies. If he’s willing to take a bit less and stay with the Braves (and Uggla said they had a plan) – I’d be pleasantly surprised.
Murph
August 13th, 2012
5:10 pm
Murph – New truck yet? And don’t punch me in the face for asking.
Yeah, picked it up last week. Was worth the wait.
There’s something very satisfying about picking up your truck from the dealership across town, getting a deal that is shockingly better than the one offered by the closer/dishonest dealership, then passing the dishonest dealership everyday on your way home while honking and giving them the bird.
And by now you all know how mature I am… and that, yes, I actually do drive by every day, twice a day, honking and flipping off the salesmen standing around outside.
cricket
August 13th, 2012
5:12 pm
even a bit less for Bourn will be too much for braves. imo nats end up the team overpaying for his services, tho they will also have to decline Laroche’s option to do it. Rizzo pretty much has special relationship with Boras – in that Boras can get whatever he wants from him.
anyway, we’ll see.
raleighbravefan
August 13th, 2012
5:13 pm
Boras is probably telling Bourn, “Hey, man. Look what the Braves did with JJ”
Jimmy
August 13th, 2012
5:14 pm
Murph is a regular “Father Knows Best”!
Glad to hear it worked out for ya.
See you go folks later.
GO BARVES!!
phil
August 13th, 2012
5:17 pm
Boras does nothing more than obtain what the market will pay….
It’s his job and he does it well.
Tell Bourn goodbye. He leaves when Chipper leaves.
phil
August 13th, 2012
5:18 pm
God knows what the 4 year old gestures at the Ford boys….lol!!
Heisenberg
August 13th, 2012
5:18 pm
I was not aware Bourn had the devil as his agent. If so Buh-Bye!
raleighbravefan
August 13th, 2012
5:19 pm
phil – I have always said that Boras is just doing his job…better than anyone. If you were a player, and wanted the best situation/money who would you hire?
phil
August 13th, 2012
5:20 pm
Feeling blah….
My impending trip to Kroger is sure to help that!
phil
August 13th, 2012
5:21 pm
Boras.
I know you’ve always said that. I tend to pay attention to what you say.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
5:21 pm
Yeah – current Braves who are Boras clients: Hanson, JJ and Bourn. And, 2 of those 3 are p*ssed at Braves management right now.
cricket
August 13th, 2012
5:22 pm
Boras does nothing more than obtain what the market will pay….
personally, i give him a bit more credit. i think he pretty much sets the market for his big FAs.
JNick
August 13th, 2012
5:23 pm
Braves could afford Bourn no problem if they front load the contract. 2013 and 2014 aren’t a problem – it’s going to be in 2015 when the young guys start getting big arb raises. Remember that McCann and his $13mil aren’t a given past next year (most likely he’s gone, since Bethancourt will be ready by 2014). Uggla’s contract will be gone after 2015, so really, signing Bourn for 5 years @$15 mil per year isn’t a reach.
phil
August 13th, 2012
5:24 pm
And 2 of those 3 aren’t doing a whole lot right now either…..
Heisenberg
August 13th, 2012
5:25 pm
Braves mgmnt is not entirely happy with 2 of those 3 either. After next offseason, there will be zero clients of the devil on Braves roster.
MFin04
August 13th, 2012
5:29 pm
With Heyward struggling would love to see Reed Johnson in there, but it is hard to sit Prado, Bourn or Heyward this year because they have all shown flashes of brilliance. Now if we had the guts to bench Uggla…Prado to 2nd and Johnson to LF.
phil
August 13th, 2012
5:29 pm
My top ten favorite bloggers after 18 months….
1. nolie
2. bat masterson
3. mcfann
4. raleighbravesfan
5. lew
6. TOH (though departed)
7. scoots
8. murph
9. cab
10. tie between another 4 or 5 or maybe more. Brian, mark, etc.
You guys help a lot of days more than you’ll ever know….
later.
phil
August 13th, 2012
5:31 pm
DS1 belongs on there too…
Kroger time….sigh
Juan
August 13th, 2012
5:32 pm
I’m confuse here…Scott Boras work for The Player or the Player work for Boras…..
How about Bourn say….Hey Scott give me the Best contract you can with the Braves,,i want to stay here close to Houston….not at Washington or Phillis.
PDOG
August 13th, 2012
5:36 pm
Everyone should hope Hanson pitches well for the rest of the year to get his trade value up. Braves have excess of pitching and by Trading Hanson and not tendering JJ Braves can save 10 million in 2013.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
5:37 pm
Juan, yes he works for his clients, but…he leads the world in getting his clients outrageous contracts. He’s very good at his job and, if I had the talent and a short time to earn a living at something I loved, I’d probably have to follow the $ too.
If Bourn wants to stay in ATL, he can tell Boras that, Boras would never let the Braves know that however.
Juan
August 13th, 2012
5:40 pm
Not everything is Money….Clif Lee let a Ton of money in the Table because he want to be in Phillis, because Philadelphi has one of the Best Children Medical Hosp.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
5:45 pm
Juan, I’m sorry but Cliff Lee didn’t leave any money on the table. Yes he wanted to play for Philly, but he’s getting top dollar:
2012 – 21.5M
2013 – 2015 25M/yr
2016 – 27.5M
Please explain how a contract like that is “leaving money on the table”.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
5:47 pm
Hope the game was in SD tonight… there’s rain near me in NW Cobb Co…. tried to go run and got soaked in 10 mins…
MFin04
August 13th, 2012
5:48 pm
“tried to go run and got soaked in 10 mins…”
No running in the rain!?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
5:51 pm
No, I had my phone and money on me… otherwise I would have.
Juan
August 13th, 2012
5:52 pm
Pace when i say let money in the table was the contract that the Yankee offer was better than the Phillis
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
5:52 pm
Also, don’t know if my coach would’a liked me to do that… was pretty slick out there. Baseball practices just started…
Braveone
August 13th, 2012
5:52 pm
From the previous blog which had 883 comments, Venice Jim led the way with 53 posts. There were 117 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:
Rank Poster Frequency
1 Venice Jim 53
2 Mark 48
3 phil 48
4 MFin04 45
5 Pace 42
6 TheOnlyBravesFan 42
7 Mixxo 27
8 ncscoots 27
9 Efrim 22
10 DS1 21
11 tiger297 20
12 Brian from SC 19
13 Tomahawkin 17
14 ncbravesfan90 17
15 raleighbravefan 17
16 john doe 16
17 ChattTownBrian 15
18 Mitchell 15
19 David O’Brien 14
20 BF54 13
21 George 13
22 TuffShhhtuff 13
23 tony austin 12
24 TennesseePaul 11
25 Bravesfaninnc 10
Kat
August 13th, 2012
5:58 pm
Thanks for the new blog Carroll.
Heisenberg
August 13th, 2012
6:01 pm
time to go
ACE
August 13th, 2012
6:01 pm
Ken, nice post @430
DiamondbackMac
August 13th, 2012
6:02 pm
Braveone
There were 117 different poster names.
But, only 15-20 real people posting I bet.
ACE
August 13th, 2012
6:03 pm
DOB taking a day off so he will be fresh down the stretch.
Murph
August 13th, 2012
6:05 pm
I haven’t been in the top 25 in over a month. Need to pick up my game.
Juan
August 13th, 2012
6:06 pm
Radar indicate a Big Storm near Downtown….Rain delay?
ACE
August 13th, 2012
6:11 pm
Been raining here in north georgia for a couple of hours.
ACE
August 13th, 2012
6:12 pm
what’s up with all the talk about Chipper’s marriage problems.
nolie
August 13th, 2012
6:16 pm
caint believe I posted less than 10 times on any blog
Trader Jack
August 13th, 2012
6:18 pm
Hope Chipper was smart enough to have a pre nup agreement this time around, or he’ll get his clock cleaned yet again
ACE
August 13th, 2012
6:18 pm
Anyone seen Jerry lately?
ACE
August 13th, 2012
6:24 pm
what’s the latest on the weather around the Ted.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
6:24 pm
Must be raining pretty good at Turner Field? Radar doesn’t look promising.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
August 13th, 2012
6:24 pm
Jerry’s working on the stage version of “The Nutty Professor,” last I heard.
DS1
August 13th, 2012
6:25 pm
phil
I am honored……… I think.
Trader Jack
August 13th, 2012
6:25 pm
From the WTF file:
Jose Canseco filed a Chapter 7 bankruptcy in Vegas, listing asstes of $21K. He made over $45 mil playing ball.
I wonder if Lenny Dykstra was his financial advisor – LOL
TuffShhhtuff
August 13th, 2012
6:29 pm
Looks like about an 8PM start tonight(5PM for those going out to Petco, yuk yuk!) since the rain is upon downtown.
“Into each life some rain must fall, but why does mine always seem to be hail?”
DS1
August 13th, 2012
6:32 pm
cricket
Youk’s option will be declined, and he will be paid whatever amount was agreed upon for not taking the option.
Then he will be available as a brand new free agent. He might be a fit for the Braves. We’ll see.
D fromChucktown,SC
August 13th, 2012
6:37 pm
BravesBanter.com for all Braves News and Commentary. New article posted on how 6 man rotation effects Braves playoff chances.. BravesBanter.com
Pace
August 13th, 2012
6:46 pm
Rain is about done it looks like, let’s get this game started!!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
6:46 pm
keithlaw @keithlaw
Yes. RT @VeryVern: @keithlaw Do you see anything in J.R. Graham?
DS1
August 13th, 2012
6:47 pm
The 6 man rotation could blow up in Fredi’s face if 2 guys in a row can’t get to the 5th inning. Just sayin………
DS1
August 13th, 2012
6:48 pm
DOB or CR
Any legs to this Johnny Damon talk? I’m guessing he might be spent, but what do I know…….
ACE
August 13th, 2012
6:54 pm
Don Sutton compared Medlen to Infante and said he should be the one to go to the bullpen.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
6:59 pm
ACE – usually I enjoy hearing what Sutton says – very knowledgeable, but…that decision doesn’t need to be made for 2 1/2 weeks.
There are six viable options right now, pitchers get an extra day off – rest can’t hurt at all, and the competition should provide entertaining pitching.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
6:59 pm
hmmm
VaBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
7:03 pm
I’m not a fan of the 6 man rotation, I say you gotta plug Hanson back in there and move Medlen back to the pen.
ACE
August 13th, 2012
7:06 pm
Leo said that the 6 man rotation would get the pitcher out of his normal routine etc.
BFChris27
August 13th, 2012
7:08 pm
So what’s the delay report?
Pace
August 13th, 2012
7:09 pm
Yes the change to a six man rotation will vary their normal routine, but it’s two starts for each of them – a good pitching coach/pitcher can make that adjustment.
Plus, it happens during the season occasionally for pitchers now – (extra day rest). They cope with it just fine.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
7:10 pm
On a different note – just saw on SportSouth a shot of McCann hitting a homer in 2005 – he was HALF the size he is now
phil
August 13th, 2012
7:10 pm
Damon looks spent….
ACE
August 13th, 2012
7:11 pm
DOB must have seen the forecast and didn’t want two late nights in a row.
abeeewright
August 13th, 2012
7:11 pm
Six man rotation can work, but only if the starter goes deeper in the game and throws more pitches on six days rest than they would on five days rest.
If starters go five innings every six day, you’ve got a messed up bullpen by the time the plug gets pulled.
ACE
August 13th, 2012
7:12 pm
looks like play around 735
Carroll Rogers
August 13th, 2012
7:12 pm
7:35 p.m. start time
Oh’man it wasn’t an overnight drop in velocity for Hanson. it’s progressively fallen over time, taking a big dip last season especially when he had shoulder problems …so it’s not something that happened in a matter of starts that would make you think its’ Tommy John.
phil
August 13th, 2012
7:16 pm
Mac does love his empty calories!!
And hudson will soon be DL’d, thus ending the silly 6 man rotation thing.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
7:17 pm
7:35… just like a Friday night game… we need some fireworks tonight
Pace:
DAM
August 13th, 2012
7:17 pm
VaBravesFan –
Also not a fan of the 6-man rotation, but disagree on moving Medlen back to the ‘pen. There’s something to be said for having 5 starters who give you a chance to win almost every time out. Unless Hanson comes back and shows that he’s healthy and capable of giving us that chance to win, I don’t see how they can pull Meds out.
phil
August 13th, 2012
7:18 pm
Could ACE actually be DOB?
Lol
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
7:19 pm
phil: I wouldn’t mind a DL of Huddy right now… I’m sure he could use the rest.
VaBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
7:20 pm
Were gonna go with a 6 man rotation just to keep Medlen a starter… So lets change everyone else’s routine even tho Medlen could still be a valuable piece in the bullpen.
This is making things pretty interesting for the long term view as well in my opinion. Out of all our starters the only 2 that don’t figure to be here in 2013 are Sheets and Jurrjens. So now were still left with Hudson, Hanson, Minor, Maholm, Delgado, Medlen, Teheran that all figure to be part of the picture sometime in 2013 and still having Beachy coming back at some point in 2013 as well.
richbrave
August 13th, 2012
7:20 pm
DOWN ON THE FARM
GCL – ORLANDO
Tigers win 4-2
Lead-off CF CONNER LIEN [.237 BA] 1-3, 1 BB, 2 SO, 1 SAC.
LF JOEY MENSES [.301 BA] 2-5, 1 R, 1 SB [2].
RF HECTOR GARCIA [.292 BA] 1-3, 1 BB, 1 CS [1].
DH JUSTIN BLACK [.191 BA] 2-4, 1 RBI [7], 2 SO, 1 SB [2].
2B LUIS MADRID [.234 BA] 1-4, 1 2B [4].
RHSP JADON DILLON [4.02 ERA] 5.0 IP, 2 H, zeros, 1 BB, 4 SO.
RHRP MATT KIMBREL [BS 1, 5.59 ERA] 2.0 IP, 3 H, 2 R/ER, 0 BB, 1 SO.
RHRP DON DRAKE [L 1-3, 1.71 ERA] 4.0 IP, 6 H, 1 HR, 2 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 4 SO.
phil
August 13th, 2012
7:20 pm
Bring back Willie Harris!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
7:21 pm
Meds can pitch out of the ‘pen, Hanson we don’t know… he’s never done it. While Medlen is impressing right now, if they feel he’s needed more in the ‘pen, he’ll go there. With Durbin being solid however, we might not need Meds back there and can afford to let Tommy find his way in there.
Tommy does need to start down the stretch if we will trade him for anything of value this offseason…
George
August 13th, 2012
7:22 pm
GOOG GRIEF it is good will have Carroll BROTHER DAVE has yet another vacation. When does the man work? Thanks for blog Carroll.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
7:22 pm
Matt Kimbrel isn’t as dominant as his brother…
richbrave
August 13th, 2012
7:22 pm
Isn’t it true that shoulder problems have been anticipated since HANSON’s career began because of his arm angle.
phil
August 13th, 2012
7:23 pm
Tonight, Chipper will hit for the cycle…
richbrave
August 13th, 2012
7:23 pm
phil:
Thanx for including me on your short list buddy! I’m overjoyed.
phil
August 13th, 2012
7:24 pm
George, you and ACE are killing David…..
Ease up.
nolie
August 13th, 2012
7:25 pm
yup, a couple real bad starts in a row will tax the pen. and don has it right, Meds is more valuable in the pen IF the other guys are pitching well. if not he is available to step in
VaBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
7:25 pm
Yes alot of people were saying they didn’t like Hanson’s arm angle and that it could be problematic in the future a few years back.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
7:25 pm
Isn’t it true that shoulder problems have been anticipated since HANSON’s career began because of his arm angle.
I believe I heard that too…. unfortunately, it’s come too early.
George
August 13th, 2012
7:26 pm
ACE
August 13th, 2012
7:06 pm
Leo said that the 6 man rotation would get the pitcher out of his normal
********
He most likely is right.
phil
August 13th, 2012
7:26 pm
Oh, you’re there, Rich…no particular order and in the tie bunch. It is an honor, ya know. Lol
nolie
August 13th, 2012
7:27 pm
some sort of arm problem, not necessarily shoulder though
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
7:27 pm
Yes alot of people were saying they didn’t like Hanson’s arm angle and that it could be problematic in the future a few years back.
Was nolie in that group? Seeing how he jinxed Beachy and all…
keylargo
August 13th, 2012
7:28 pm
For those of you born in the 80’s who missed a movie named “Crocodile Dundee”, do yourself a favor and find time to watch it. It’s on AMC the next three nights. You won’t be any smarter but it is one of the funniest movies you’ll ever see.
richbrave
August 13th, 2012
7:29 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
7:22 pm
“……Matt Kimbrel isn’t as dominant as his brother……”
True, too true.
nolie
August 13th, 2012
7:30 pm
yes, in that group since the day they signed him. all my fault
phil
August 13th, 2012
7:30 pm
Forgot that Skip called the Chipper 400th dinger….i sure do miss that man.
richbrave
August 13th, 2012
7:31 pm
keylargo
August 13th, 2012
7:28 pm
“……..For those of you born in the 80’s who missed a movie named “Crocodile Dundee”, do yourself a favor and find time to watch it. It’s on AMC the next three nights. You won’t be any smarter but it is one of the funniest movies you’ll ever see……..”
Grin….that’s not a knife……this is a knife……
George
August 13th, 2012
7:31 pm
phil
August 13th, 2012
5:29 pm
My top ten favorite bloggers after 18 months….
1. nolie
2. bat masterson
3. mcfann
4. raleighbravesfan
5. lew
6. TOH (though departed)
7. scoots
8. murph
9. cab
10. tie between another 4 or 5 or maybe more. Brian, mark, etc.
You guys help a lot of days more than you’ll ever know….
later.
********
I have a list of top bloggers a lot of mine are the same, your other picks are good also.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
7:31 pm
Yeah – SS could’ve shown the rest of that show – didn’t need to hear the three talking heads blather for 2 minutes and then 4 minutes of commercials.
phil
August 13th, 2012
7:32 pm
Nolie, who’s on the doomed elbow list on the staff at present? Just wanna be ready.
richbrave
August 13th, 2012
7:32 pm
LINDA What’s her face…..nice! She married ol’ Mick for real didn’t she? Then found out he was for real and dumped him……
VaBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
7:32 pm
I still see Medlen being lower on the totem pole going forward. We all know he will be back in the bullpen next season unless he completely surprises the hell out of everyone with masterful pitching.
The way I see it is we’ll have Hudson, Hanson, Maholm, Minor, Delgado, Medlen, Teheran all planning on being in the rotation at some point in 2013. Also Beachy will be back at some point as well. So were gonna have 7 guys to begin with with an 8th coming back later for 5 spots.
George
August 13th, 2012
7:34 pm
phil
August 13th, 2012
5:29 pm
My top ten favorite bloggers after 18 months….
********************************************
As a matter of fact number 6 is the only different one.
richbrave
August 13th, 2012
7:35 pm
GAME FACE…GAME ON…let’s kick azz.
phil
August 13th, 2012
7:35 pm
Sons of umpires past….sigh.
phil
August 13th, 2012
7:38 pm
Infield hit….
We’re doomed.
JC Brave
August 13th, 2012
7:39 pm
Play ball!!
Let’s go Braves!
Keep it cool Minor!
keylargo
August 13th, 2012
7:39 pm
richbrave – Linda Kozlowski did marry Paul Hogan. Don’t know about a divorce. My favorite scene was when he met the transvestite in the NYC bar.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
7:42 pm
Minor pitching inside to RHers – gotta establish that – nice inning, great catch for Prado, that infield hit was just that, only an infield hit.
Lance
August 13th, 2012
7:42 pm
There’s a play for the highlights
MIBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
7:42 pm
Great catch, Marteeen!!
cabravesfan
August 13th, 2012
7:42 pm
Marteen…graceful as always
nolie
August 13th, 2012
7:42 pm
Marteeen!!!
Bama Brave
August 13th, 2012
7:42 pm
MARTEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im Back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TNScott
August 13th, 2012
7:43 pm
Team Teen!!!!!
phil
August 13th, 2012
7:44 pm
Good half inning…
kelevra
August 13th, 2012
7:44 pm
lets just put a 5 spot up and ease through this game
George
August 13th, 2012
7:44 pm
Outta here for game. We need a win tonight. BRAVES GO FOR IT.
phil
August 13th, 2012
7:45 pm
No hitter thru one batter….
kelevra
August 13th, 2012
7:46 pm
marteen has to learn to lay off the eye high pitch
phil
August 13th, 2012
7:46 pm
Crap. Another sore-armed, waiver wire lefty…They wear us out.
phil
August 13th, 2012
7:47 pm
Prado is 28 and done learnin…
ChattTownBrian
August 13th, 2012
7:47 pm
Come on JHey
phil
August 13th, 2012
7:48 pm
Good grief….
abeeewright
August 13th, 2012
7:49 pm
That was a Stultifying half inning.
njbraves
August 13th, 2012
7:49 pm
This guy looks like the kind of pitcher who kills the Braves.
ChattTownBrian
August 13th, 2012
7:49 pm
We strikeout a LOT!
Pace
August 13th, 2012
7:49 pm
Not a great start – looks like Minor has to pitch great tonite.
kelevra
August 13th, 2012
7:49 pm
phil
you think 28 year old players stop making adjustments…i think jose bautista might disagree
ncbravesfan90
August 13th, 2012
7:50 pm
Stults has had his way with lefthanded hitters all year long, yet we run 2 out of our first 3 hitters out there that are lefthanded.
ChattTownBrian
August 13th, 2012
7:51 pm
Time to send Jason to AAA. He needs it!
Pace
August 13th, 2012
7:51 pm
Well Chipper, that’s not gonna help Minor!!!
ChattTownBrian
August 13th, 2012
7:52 pm
Nice play Chipper
Hmmmm
August 13th, 2012
7:55 pm
dang, second game in a row the opposing team has scored first
ChattTownBrian
August 13th, 2012
7:55 pm
SERIES! For sure
ACE
August 13th, 2012
7:55 pm
early lead for the pads
DAM
August 13th, 2012
7:55 pm
Should have been an error on Chipper on that grounder rather than a hit.
Capt.Mudd
August 13th, 2012
7:56 pm
……captious activity in the first….with some carry over I see…..Padres ge 1
kelevra
August 13th, 2012
7:56 pm
that run is on chipper
nolie
August 13th, 2012
7:56 pm
BALLGAME!!! Minor sukks
Hmmmm
August 13th, 2012
8:00 pm
nice catch
SNEAKY PETE
August 13th, 2012
8:00 pm
yeah right, all the Chipper haters jump on
Pace
August 13th, 2012
8:00 pm
Wow – nice catch to rob FF – so far not good.
Early yet.
cabravesfan
August 13th, 2012
8:01 pm
Before anyone asks, Maybin is signed through 2016 with an Option year after that
Capt.Mudd
August 13th, 2012
8:01 pm
preeminent belly boarder…..Mr. Maybin
Pace
August 13th, 2012
8:01 pm
Uggla – new bat, same result. It’s getting hard to stay positive.
TNScott
August 13th, 2012
8:01 pm
Well, that was as easy as 1-2-3.
JC Brave
August 13th, 2012
8:01 pm
The offense is on fire so far tonight.
Killing this lefty!
Keep it coming!!!!!
abeeewright
August 13th, 2012
8:02 pm
Braves got some good hacks on Stults that inning. Nothing to show for it though. The Black Hole is up in the next inning.
(I meant the bottom of the order, not just McCann. That was not a “how fat is Brian” joke.)
Jerry
August 13th, 2012
8:04 pm
Well, for all the hoopla about Uggla supposedly turning it around, he still is popping it up and striking it out. He really is a waste of a spot on the 25-man roster.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
8:04 pm
CAB w/the pre-emptive research
Capt.Mudd
August 13th, 2012
8:04 pm
He didn’t make a Stultment there
MIBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
8:06 pm
Good catch, Michael!
Ryan Dempster Sux
August 13th, 2012
8:06 pm
Swisher goes Granny off of Dempster – Yanks 4 -2 over Rangers
SNEAKY PETE
August 13th, 2012
8:06 pm
yeah sure Jerry, he is gonna get a hit every time. nobody really missed all your Uggla rips
Pace
August 13th, 2012
8:07 pm
Good inning Minor – he’s pitching well, only one error (hit) that cost him a run.
abeeewright
August 13th, 2012
8:07 pm
We’re zipping along here.
Might get this game in in less than two hours even with the rain delay.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
8:10 pm
Just can’t catch a break early in this game – soooooooo close for Mac there.
ChattTownBrian
August 13th, 2012
8:12 pm
Only pitcher to win 100 games or more by a Padres pitcher was Eric Show. Just a guess, but a good one I think.
SNEAKY PETE
August 13th, 2012
8:12 pm
should have saved those 4 runs in the ninth for tonight
kelevra
August 13th, 2012
8:13 pm
2012 braves
vs rh starters: .261/.336/.420 79 HR
vs lh starters: .246/.314/.376 32 HR
no opinions, just the numbers for what they’re worth
Hmmmm
August 13th, 2012
8:13 pm
somebody doesn’t have their socks pulled up …..
DAM
August 13th, 2012
8:14 pm
I miss the days when it seemed like our entire pitching staff could actually handle the bat.
T-Dawg
August 13th, 2012
8:14 pm
No Hitter!
Capt.Mudd
August 13th, 2012
8:14 pm
timorous at bat for minorous folk
ChattTownBrian
August 13th, 2012
8:14 pm
“Minor sukks”
I agree, nolie. He also looks like a dork in the high socks look. Dork! Sucky dork too.
kelevra
August 13th, 2012
8:16 pm
jake peavy for the trivia?
Mark
August 13th, 2012
8:17 pm
Working too long and getting to the games too late!!
Just in time to see Minors BA – .028 – Man he’s rippin it!
Must still be in a little offensive funk?
Enee, Meenee, Minee, Jim
August 13th, 2012
8:17 pm
Minor has NO success with the bat, but he looks like a hitter. Go figure!
Jerry
August 13th, 2012
8:17 pm
yeah sure Jerry, he is gonna get a hit every time. nobody really missed all your Uggla rips
Bet my rips of Uggla are better than the rips of Uggla himself. He’s lost.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
8:17 pm
Eric Show – pitched for them in the 80’s – saw him several times when the Braves came to town at ‘The Murph’ – great memories.
Jerry
August 13th, 2012
8:19 pm
Denorfia is as ugly as Uggla. Earlier when he was shown at second with Uggla, that was a hard thing to look at.
TNScott
August 13th, 2012
8:20 pm
With all of these left-handers we are facing, I FEEL THE NEED FOR REED!!!
Mark
August 13th, 2012
8:21 pm
Mac was throwing to 2nd
TNScott
August 13th, 2012
8:22 pm
Chicken crap hit again.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
8:22 pm
Just can’t catch a break – had to try for the ball, but dam – little bleeders – gotta get them out here!!
Bye Bye
August 13th, 2012
8:22 pm
This game is over
kelevra
August 13th, 2012
8:22 pm
another infield hit….wow we are in some tough luck right now
JC Brave
August 13th, 2012
8:22 pm
Minor is on fire!
No better combination than having both Minor and the Offense on fire!!!!!
MIBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
8:25 pm
Nice job getting out of that mess by Mike
SNEAKY PETE
August 13th, 2012
8:25 pm
whew
Pace
August 13th, 2012
8:25 pm
Minor at 92 for the K! He looks angry – at least it’s still 1-0, top of the order coming up, Bourn needs to break up this perfecto.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
8:26 pm
Minor is working out of these jams #likeaboss
Capt.Mudd
August 13th, 2012
8:26 pm
The tranquillity he exhibited during that trying situation should make his former counselor at Vandy beam with approval
kelevra
August 13th, 2012
8:27 pm
minor hasn’t gotten any luck or offense the past few starts and hasn’t buckled yet. kid is really starting to impress me
ChattTownBrian
August 13th, 2012
8:27 pm
Pace, yeah I already said Eric Show. He was my guess first.
abeeewright
August 13th, 2012
8:27 pm
Freeman, McCann, Chipper, and Minor have had some well struck balls off Stults.
Balls are going to find some grass before much longer.
TNScott
August 13th, 2012
8:27 pm
Nice K. Now the question of the night: Is the offense going to wait until the ninth to score?
1957 Braves Fan
August 13th, 2012
8:28 pm
Good damage control. Let’s score before it’s too late.
Jerry
August 13th, 2012
8:29 pm
Sounds like that loud ass fat usher is on the job again tonight.
kelevra
August 13th, 2012
8:29 pm
bragging rights?? what the he** is joe talking about…who is going to brag about winning a game in august
Mister Frisky
August 13th, 2012
8:30 pm
Looks like the 2011 offense is creeping back in.McCann,Uggla,Janish,and the pitcher.Back to a 5 man batting order.
phil
August 13th, 2012
8:30 pm
Another example tonight of why i think we lose a one game wildcard matchup….
Bravofan
August 13th, 2012
8:31 pm
Nice job by J-Hey running it out
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
8:31 pm
Sigh…
Bravofan
August 13th, 2012
8:32 pm
Jerry: seriously?
abeeewright
August 13th, 2012
8:32 pm
That was a lot closer at first than I thought possible when the ball popped away.
Sounds like the Perfect Game and No-Hitter bit the dust on that miscue.
DS1
August 13th, 2012
8:32 pm
Heyward in scoring position…………
phil
August 13th, 2012
8:32 pm
To be more clear, why a one game deal scares me.
Mark
August 13th, 2012
8:32 pm
Generous hit for Jhey there.
Send Jhey here 0-2
JC Brave
August 13th, 2012
8:33 pm
Wow!
They got a hit!
A miracle!
DS1
August 13th, 2012
8:33 pm
Shoulda scored…………
MIBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
8:33 pm
Great hustle as always by JHey, and nice hit, Chipper!
Pace
August 13th, 2012
8:33 pm
DS1 – funny – true, but funny.
phil
August 13th, 2012
8:33 pm
THAT was a hit, not Heyward’s bouncer!
Mark
August 13th, 2012
8:33 pm
Don’t send Chipper here!!!
MIBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
8:34 pm
Dang it!
Hmmmm
August 13th, 2012
8:34 pm
almost broke through that inning
Jerry
August 13th, 2012
8:34 pm
Freeman just can’t lay off that first pitch.
JC Brave
August 13th, 2012
8:34 pm
Good job Freeman!
Keet it coming!
phil
August 13th, 2012
8:35 pm
Bench Fat Freddie…
ncbravesfan90
August 13th, 2012
8:35 pm
“Another example tonight of why i think we lose a one game wildcard matchup….”
Offense is too dang streaky for anyone to feel good about a one game wildcard game. We could hit a Verlander, Strasburg, Kershaw or a top pitcher like that one night then get shutout by a pitcher with a 5+ ERA.
abeeewright
August 13th, 2012
8:35 pm
According to the broadcast, Stults is great the first time through the order (.076 BA against) but stinks it up the second time. I wouldn’t call “BALLGAME” just yet.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
8:36 pm
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
it’s brutal RT @MitchGibbs11: @ajcbraves Its an usher?! Somebody get her supervisor in here!
Agree… it’s real bad. BAD.
Jerry
August 13th, 2012
8:36 pm
Yep, seriously. Serious about what, I don’t know. But I must be, at any rate.
kelevra
August 13th, 2012
8:36 pm
another bleeder….
phil
August 13th, 2012
8:36 pm
Minor…sigh
Capt.Mudd
August 13th, 2012
8:36 pm
Wholesome result for Chipper and an impatient follow-up…….woeful
ncbravesfan90
August 13th, 2012
8:37 pm
I’d expect Minor to be the one going to the bullpen at month’s end. Hanson is not going to the bullpen, just forget that option. So it’ll be either Medlen or Minor to the pen.
Hmmmm
August 13th, 2012
8:37 pm
Minor not very sharp but he’s managing to get out of trouble without them adding on, hope he can at least keep them from adding on
ChattTownBrian
August 13th, 2012
8:38 pm
This isn’t good
Pace
August 13th, 2012
8:38 pm
Keep pitching inside Minor – don’t mind the occasional hit batsman, but…2 on noone out, not a good start.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
8:38 pm
yeah – bunt a couple of more times, let the pitcher run.
Mark
August 13th, 2012
8:38 pm
Cut the pitcher down at 3rd on the bunt
phil
August 13th, 2012
8:38 pm
Streaky gets us in multiple series as it is.
RIP Pesky.
DS1
August 13th, 2012
8:38 pm
I don’t like the 1 game playoff for the Wild Card any more than anybody else, but why the doubt that we could win it? We have a pretty good record.
But heck, that’d force some of you folks to actually be a glass half full person I guess.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
8:40 pm
I know that the usher isn’t part of the U.S. Justice system, but this is cruel and unusual punishment… it’s against the law!
JC Brave
August 13th, 2012
8:40 pm
“You just got to tip your cap to those guys over there.”
DS1
August 13th, 2012
8:40 pm
Freeman swings at the first pitch almost 50% of the time. Now, who’s the idiot?
kelevra
August 13th, 2012
8:41 pm
another broken bat hit
TBbravesfan
August 13th, 2012
8:41 pm
well i guess it’s time to backslide again
JC Brave
August 13th, 2012
8:41 pm
BOOM!
Go Braves!
phil
August 13th, 2012
8:41 pm
Buffet Brian with a nice pounce….
Mostly for naught…sigh.
BALLGAME!
Jerry
August 13th, 2012
8:41 pm
Prado didn’t exactly try hard to catch that ball.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
8:41 pm
Good pitch – in on the hands, poor result. Good play to get the runner at 2nd.
T-Dawg
August 13th, 2012
8:41 pm
wow…just wow.
Capt.Mudd
August 13th, 2012
8:42 pm
Stop picking on the seniorplayer Pods
phil
August 13th, 2012
8:42 pm
No he didnt…
Mark
August 13th, 2012
8:42 pm
2 days in a row we are getting killed by dinky little flares for hits!
JC Brave
August 13th, 2012
8:43 pm
Now let’s roll over and die so the Padres can win so this loss can work as motivation for the Nationals to win tonight too!!!
Braves baseball!!!
phil
August 13th, 2012
8:44 pm
Just our history in deciding games. Horrible in last 10 yrs.
Mixxo
August 13th, 2012
8:44 pm
OK….the high socks aren’t working…..try something else.
Jerry
August 13th, 2012
8:45 pm
Uggla leading off. What are the odds that it’s an automatic first out?
phil
August 13th, 2012
8:45 pm
Dinky, crushed, matters not.
Posted Earlier
August 13th, 2012
8:46 pm
Lack of bats can kill your pitching. Wake up you slackers!
ncbravesfan90
August 13th, 2012
8:47 pm
Alot of warning track power tonight…
Hmmmm
August 13th, 2012
8:48 pm
go Giants
ncbravesfan90
August 13th, 2012
8:49 pm
I think these teams switched uniforms before the game started…
phil
August 13th, 2012
8:49 pm
We can look so listless at times….
I blame Hinske.
TBbravesfan
August 13th, 2012
8:50 pm
welcome back beaves
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
8:50 pm
David Carroll @DAVIDCARROLL3
Just turned on #Braves. Should’ve kept up with Padres this year. To me, their lineup looks like Chase Headley and 8 lucky fans.
bp
August 13th, 2012
8:50 pm
We need some dinky flares.
Bronke
August 13th, 2012
8:52 pm
Does anyone know if something is wrong with McCann? He seems to be back in a funk again so soon after getting better. Hope the Braves don’t bypass the Padres. Every game counts and they need to stay focused and win theses type of games! go Braves!
abeeewright
August 13th, 2012
8:52 pm
warning track power = big park + wind blowing in
ncbravesfan90
August 13th, 2012
8:52 pm
This is unbelievable
sid
August 13th, 2012
8:53 pm
difficult to take this team seriously…that might explain a 3/4 empty stadium.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
8:53 pm
Well, that wasn’t a bleeder – good baserunning too – this could get rough.
Mark
August 13th, 2012
8:53 pm
Alright, I’ll say it. Bourn dogged it after that ball.
Jerry
August 13th, 2012
8:53 pm
This game is quickly getting out of hand.
abeeewright
August 13th, 2012
8:53 pm
Freeman’s average on first pitch balls in play is something like .540. Swing away big man.
ncbravesfan90
August 13th, 2012
8:53 pm
“warning track power = big park + wind blowing in”
+ a streak offense= bad recipe for a win
njbraves
August 13th, 2012
8:54 pm
Padres doing everything right….Braves look lifeless
ncbravesfan90
August 13th, 2012
8:54 pm
*streaky
ncbravesfan90
August 13th, 2012
8:54 pm
The Mike Minor we know is back tonight.
Hmmmm
August 13th, 2012
8:56 pm
unfortunately for the Braves, the Padre pen is nearly as bad as the Mets (5th best out of 16) so getting to their pen might not change much
njbraves
August 13th, 2012
8:56 pm
Minor hasn’t been great, but you can’t win with no runs. Streaky offense at it again.
Hmmmm
August 13th, 2012
8:58 pm
*isn’t nearly as bad.
they got behind early in Minor’s last start vs Hamels, and got shut them down. Got behind early last night, got shut down. Got behind early tonight … same thing
Mark
August 13th, 2012
9:01 pm
Chipper needs to lose those red shoes.
Capt.Mudd
August 13th, 2012
9:01 pm
Shut out at home? Ok…let’s roll now guys
Pace
August 13th, 2012
9:01 pm
Through 5 innings the offense has ONE HIT – Minor wasn’t perfect, but he was pretty good, deserves better than he’s gotten his past 3 starts.
Braves O hasn’t scored when he’s pitched in about 21 innings??? (Consecutive) – Can that be right?
phil
August 13th, 2012
9:02 pm
1 hit….
Wildcard team indeed.
abeeewright
August 13th, 2012
9:02 pm
It’s Monday. Braves have short pants instead of the curse-busting rolled up pants.
Tina
August 13th, 2012
9:03 pm
Glad I dont go to the park anymore. I said two months ago if we could switch managers I would want Black. Freddi moved Uggla up in the order because he hit in a few games. To me there both losers. Het Richards tomorrow another lost to a LH pitcher. 6 man rotation hell take Minor out they dont score any runs for him.
Mark
August 13th, 2012
9:04 pm
Not a single run the last 20 innings Minor has pitched. Did I hear that right?
Jerry
August 13th, 2012
9:04 pm
High socks ain’t gonna help in this game. These guys are really flat tonight. Gonna find something else to do.
ncbravesfan90
August 13th, 2012
9:04 pm
No need to worry about the Padres bullpen, this will be a complete game shutout by Stults, only at 68 pitches.
DAM
August 13th, 2012
9:05 pm
Seriously, it feels like we give up entirely too many hits to opposing pitchers while our pitchers get next to none. I’d like to see a stat on that — how many hits we’ve given up to opposing pitchers.
tony austin
August 13th, 2012
9:05 pm
I really starting to think that the Braves play to the level of their competition.
kelevra
August 13th, 2012
9:06 pm
come on chipper!!!
DAM
August 13th, 2012
9:06 pm
And if Heyward’s bouncer off Alonso’s glove was an error, then it should have been ruled an error on Chipper, too. Chipper didn’t even have to move to field the one hit to him.
Trey
August 13th, 2012
9:06 pm
Tina, so you think they would have scored if another pitcher was on the mound? They’ll score or won’t score regardless of who is on.
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
9:07 pm
Come on, Chipper….
abeeewright
August 13th, 2012
9:07 pm
Braves pitchers, including Huddy, have been dreadful at the plate this year.
TuffShhhtuff
August 13th, 2012
9:07 pm
I was looking for a logical explanation for what is happening tonight, and I think I found it. The Padres have a 24-35 road record. That explains it right there.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
9:08 pm
Finally some stressful pitches for this guy.
abeeewright
August 13th, 2012
9:08 pm
So close. Thought Chipper was going to get ahold of one.
ncbravesfan90
August 13th, 2012
9:09 pm
To the warning track once more…better start finding some holes with groundballs.
Hmmmm
August 13th, 2012
9:09 pm
9 more outs to get 3 runs
tony austin
August 13th, 2012
9:10 pm
Well so much for the second time through the lineup theory.
JC Brave
August 13th, 2012
9:11 pm
Offense at its best.
Choking.
It feels like a playoff atmosphere tonight.
This is how I picture a one-game playoff would end.
TBbravesfan
August 13th, 2012
9:12 pm
you think the braves would still try to hit homeruns if the wind was blowing in 90 miles an hour?
TuffShhhtuff
August 13th, 2012
9:12 pm
Maybe if we switched managers for the last 3 innings the Braves would score some runs. Mr. Black is taking Mr. Gonzalez to school tonight on how to score a run here and there, and the use of that outdated tool, THE BUNT!
kelevra
August 13th, 2012
9:12 pm
if we lose tonight im sure chipper will blame minor for not keeping the other team shut out for 7 or 8 innings
VaBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
9:15 pm
Gotta love our offensive output tonight. Great stuff.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
9:16 pm
Oh, so it IS possible to drive a ball out tonite???
ncbravesfan90
August 13th, 2012
9:16 pm
Nah we couldn’t use Headley, according to some on here he’s just an average player….
njbraves
August 13th, 2012
9:17 pm
Nothing like getting embarrassed by a bad team.
phil
August 13th, 2012
9:17 pm
Chip Carey never gets bothered by anything….just as happy as a lark at all times. Irritating. See? As Headley homers as if on cue.
old man
August 13th, 2012
9:17 pm
Just tuned in. Three hits? Good God! Three hits? If we had attempted nothing but bunts the entire game, wouldn’t we have three hits by now?
Hmmmm
August 13th, 2012
9:17 pm
there’s an insurance run i’m not really sure they need
abeeewright
August 13th, 2012
9:17 pm
Durbin grabbed his Gas Can and came into pitch it onto the fire.
Mark
August 13th, 2012
9:17 pm
This is going to seem like a duh comment but we have too many guys having crappy ABs even when we win. Nonproductive even when we do have runners on. Not even hitting a hard foul ball or fouling one straight back and on it. Just dinky little ground balls or pop ups against this guy throwing 67 mph curves and high 80 changes.
Hey, heres a thought. Why doesn’t somebody go up there and think “let the ball travel and get deep, and go the other way with it”
TuffShhhtuff
August 13th, 2012
9:17 pm
“abeeeewright” post at 8:35PM be abeeeeeeeeewrong! Maybe that’s against anybody but the Braves.
phil
August 13th, 2012
9:18 pm
Good nite all. Enough for one night….
Ebenezer Snerdberg
August 13th, 2012
9:21 pm
THE DINGER FLINGER STRIKES AGAIN! AND HAVANA FATS SHOWS GOING TO A SIX MAN ROTATION HE CANNOT MAKE A HARD DECISION. WHAT A PANT LOAD!
old man
August 13th, 2012
9:21 pm
I’ve got no TV tonight. What is this guy tossing that we have three hits? Heater at 93? What is he tossing? I’m sort of pissed that we have three hits against a crappy team.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
August 13th, 2012
9:21 pm
Yes, whiny bitches, go to bed and sleep the sleep of the innocent. After all, the Braves never come back in games, so please get your beauty sleep and spare us your dull-witted observations…
Jay Dubu
August 13th, 2012
9:23 pm
It’s already a given…if the Braves go into the playoffs as a wildcard team, they will face a lefty in the one game playoff.
Mitchell
August 13th, 2012
9:23 pm
Clearly the Braves epic “comeback” has carried over to another Monday night letdown.
Last time I checked by the way, a comeback is when you win.
Capt.Mudd
August 13th, 2012
9:23 pm
Looks like soreness in Mac’s left knee
JC Brave
August 13th, 2012
9:24 pm
Wow, this team sure knows how to look like a bunch of losers.
Mark
August 13th, 2012
9:24 pm
old man
67 to 75 mph curves, 78 mph chane ups and we are hitting everything with our back foot in the air.
TuffShhhtuff
August 13th, 2012
9:25 pm
Anybody like to know how much Uggla gets paid per at bat? Well, I will tell you anyway. Based on $13M, it’s $20,000 per plate appearance, using an estimated 650 PA’s. Just to keep it simple. Must be nice!
Bronke
August 13th, 2012
9:25 pm
What a stinker again. Did the Braves go out drinking in New York or what? McCann and the team are playing down right awful.
ncbravesfan90
August 13th, 2012
9:25 pm
“It’s already a given…if the Braves go into the playoffs as a wildcard team, they will face a lefty in the one game playoff.”
Haha yeah i was thinking the same thing. If the team the Braves face don’t have a left hander in the rotation then they will call one up to put on the playoff roster to face them.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 13th, 2012
9:25 pm
Capt.Mudd Looks like soreness in Mac’s left knee
What?? Why???
old man
August 13th, 2012
9:26 pm
So his fastball is 88, plus or minus? Is he even tossing a fastball? Or his he throwing EVERYTHING slower than BP? Dang, you would think we would make that adjustment the 2nd and 3rd time around.
T-Dawg
August 13th, 2012
9:27 pm
No excuses….but there will be.
Mark
August 13th, 2012
9:28 pm
Looks like we are very determined to continue going up there and pull every ball so in case he does throw that fastball on the inner half we’ll be ready for it.
old man
August 13th, 2012
9:29 pm
Looks like the Nats will be playing free and easy tonight in SF.
Mister Frisky
August 13th, 2012
9:29 pm
September coming 3 weeks early this year.
Mark
August 13th, 2012
9:30 pm
BMac has enough padding on his hind end that didn’t hurt!
Jaded
August 13th, 2012
9:31 pm
Lefties not named Johan Santana continue to be the Braves’ kryptonite. Niese and Stults have beaten us handily the last two nights.
Mister Frisky
August 13th, 2012
9:32 pm
Maybe is was a little premature in naming Fredo manager of the year.
TNScott
August 13th, 2012
9:33 pm
Nice inning, Cory.
old man
August 13th, 2012
9:33 pm
Dang, you’re a bunch of big leaguers. Make an adjustment, OK? Against a knuckle baller I could see it. But some guy throwing curves and changes, topping out at 78?
So he just out smarted us, that’s the bottom line?
Mark
August 13th, 2012
9:34 pm
Cory is doing well
old man
August 13th, 2012
9:35 pm
Stepping back, looking at the big picture, we thought we got the big right handed bat with Uggla.
We didn’t.
kelevra
August 13th, 2012
9:35 pm
my hope is that simmons coming back and maybe seeing ross face lefties will help but im really not sure what can be done about these games against lefties
Capt.Mudd
August 13th, 2012
9:35 pm
@McFann…..When he came out of the batters box last up he grabbed his left knee cap while heading up the line rather slowly—perhaps nothing of significance
Mister Frisky
August 13th, 2012
9:38 pm
This team has over achieved so far.I have little faith they could win a one game playoff on the road or at home.Bourn and Chipper gone.Gotta cut bait with JJ,Hanson.If they could move Caveman,Fatman, and Hudson they could really build something solid.Heyward much improved but not the type of 3 hole hitter for a real contender.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 13th, 2012
9:38 pm
Capt.Mudd—
Curses. I did see him kinda bend down, but then the camera cut to a different angle (and the channel got changed briefly between innings, so I can’t rewind it)…He came back out to catch though, so…maybe he just turned it funny and it hurt for just a few seconds…That’s all he’d need, for crying out loud!…
JC Brave
August 13th, 2012
9:39 pm
Beyond pathetic at this point.
Oh well, whatever… screw these losers.
old man
August 13th, 2012
9:39 pm
McCann was hot for two weeks this season. 235 does not cut it. 214, Uggla, does not cut it.
Severe doubts about extending McCann.
Capt.Mudd
August 13th, 2012
9:40 pm
The real pro Prado
Pace
August 13th, 2012
9:40 pm
Shutout over – Bourn scores from 1st!!!
Prado w/a nice little triple – Chipper needs to keep this ‘rally’ going
Bronke
August 13th, 2012
9:40 pm
The Braves better hope that no team gets hot and makes a run at the wilcard. They wat they go about rebounding after a bad loss and their inability to do well against lefties is foretelling. Times like this the team needs a leader to rise up and pull everybody together. Who will it be?
ChattTownBrian
August 13th, 2012
9:41 pm
It looks clear to me the Braves didn’t prepare for this game and this pitcher. They’re obviously tired fro the travel and getting in late. But also my opinion is they didn’t either have the energy or desire to prepare for this unknown Padres pitcher.
At least they’re showing a bit of a pulse now. Might be too late now though.
DC NAT
August 13th, 2012
9:41 pm
LOOKIN GOOD BRAVES!!! LOL
Bravefaninok
August 13th, 2012
9:41 pm
Marteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen!!!!!!!!
phil
August 13th, 2012
9:41 pm
Hugo – you know where you can stick it, you pathetic jerk…
Nite again. It’s called being tired and having a job. Try it, Hugo.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
9:42 pm
CTB – earlier one of the broadcast team said this was the Braves 4th time against this guy – should know a bit about him by now.
The late night, rain delay, whatever the cause, the Braves haven’t (so far) seemed to care much about this game.
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
9:42 pm
Prado is heating up. Good to see.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
August 13th, 2012
9:42 pm
I do Phillip. Every day. No sympathy for you.
Mark
August 13th, 2012
9:42 pm
Old man – Heres pitch sequences
Yawnish 84 change, 68 curve, 88 mph FB = F-9
Reed missed the first pitch, 76 Change, 88 Fb, 87 FB down the middle, 79 change = 5-3
Bourn 77 curve called strike, 72 curve swing and miss, 81 curve low and away, 87 FB infield hit toward SS.
Prado 77 change away, 78 change inside, 85 mph fb triple to left. Should mention that the last decent hit was prado. Had a line drive up the middle last AB.
Pitching change – You get the idea. Been this way the whole boring night. Prado the only one with a plan. Not talking about results but he obviously has a plan. Everyone else popping up or rolling over the top hitting slow rollers.
cabravesfan
August 13th, 2012
9:44 pm
I can’t wait to read some of the comments about “late night” games when the team is on the west coast soon…
TuffShhhtuff
August 13th, 2012
9:45 pm
Well you can forget about the manager doing it, that’s for sure!
Capt.Mudd
August 13th, 2012
9:45 pm
@McFann….Rest assured it is not serious or thr trainers and Fredi would sit him; he just kinda skipped/limped for the first step or two and I was trying to fing out something myself–by mentioning it, I trust you will be at least comforted by his continuation in this game.
abeeewright
August 13th, 2012
9:45 pm
Braves are 19-24 against lefties. Could be 19-25 in four more outs without a rally.
For comparison, San Francisco is 24-11.
Braves are the only team in the NL in playoff contention with a losing record against lefties.
Efrim
August 13th, 2012
9:46 pm
Come on, Jason…
old man
August 13th, 2012
9:46 pm
@ChattTownBrian
Amen to what you said. At this rate of pay, you should be expected to do the drill down EVERY game, all 162. They did not do the drill down on this game. If you know you have jet lag, if you know he is a junk ball pitcher, make the dang adjustments. Bunt, go opposite way, take pitches for walks, extend the count, get his pitch count up, get into their pen, etc. HE SHOULD NOT BE AN UNKNOWN PITCHER IF YOU ARE DOING YOUR JOB.
TBbravesfan
August 13th, 2012
9:46 pm
swing at one in the dirt
Pace
August 13th, 2012
9:46 pm
Very bad at bat by Heyward – Guess he didn’t see the spin on those sliders
ChattTownBrian
August 13th, 2012
9:47 pm
Ho Hum
ncbravesfan90
August 13th, 2012
9:47 pm
Dang Heyward has the strikeout swing working of late. That at bat right there and the last one last night looked awful.
JC Brave
August 13th, 2012
9:47 pm
MVP Heyward.
Harpie
August 13th, 2012
9:47 pm
It’s just not fun rooting for this team…
njbraves
August 13th, 2012
9:47 pm
Another fantastic at bat from Heyward.
tommykk
August 13th, 2012
9:47 pm
Heyward can looked completely overmatched a times
Hugo Z Hackenbush
August 13th, 2012
9:47 pm
If you had any sense of decency cab, you’d do something about that darn pacific time zone…
Mark
August 13th, 2012
9:47 pm
JHey got to calm down. No need to throw him a strike right now b/c he’s swinging at everything.
DC NAT
August 13th, 2012
9:47 pm
TAKE A SEAT HEYWARD!!! NICE. REAL NICE!!!! LOL
ncbravesfan90
August 13th, 2012
9:48 pm
Derek Lowe with 4 shutout innings to get the save for the Yankees against the high powered Texas offense.
cabravesfan
August 13th, 2012
9:48 pm
Hugo-
It worked just fine when the Braves were in the NL West
Stupid realignment…
tony austin
August 13th, 2012
9:49 pm
Time to move Heyward back down in he lineup until he can start recognizing pitches again.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 13th, 2012
9:49 pm
Capt.Mudd I trust you will be at least comforted by his continuation in this game.
You’d think so, wouldn’t ya?…
He prolly won’t play tomorrow, anyway—Timmy starting and another friggin’ lefty going for the Padres…
Enee, Meenee, Minee, Jim
August 13th, 2012
9:49 pm
Was Jason the only person in the whole southeast that didn’t know that 3-2 slider at his shoe tops was coming? Jason is looking like Jason circa 2011
Mitchell
August 13th, 2012
9:49 pm
Jason Heyward, struck out swinging.
Gosh, he’s almost never done that before.
SNEAKY PETE
August 13th, 2012
9:50 pm
Bah Humbug on this game too
njbraves
August 13th, 2012
9:50 pm
“Braves didn’t have the energy or desire to prepare for this pitcher”??? Ok, sure…that must be it.
ncbravesfan90
August 13th, 2012
9:51 pm
For future reference….against a starting left handed pitcher there should not be 2 left handed batters out of the first 3 hitters.
ChattTownBrian
August 13th, 2012
9:51 pm
Now I don’t watch much of any other MLB teams except the Braves, so I don’t know if any other teams look as obviously lethargic as ATL does at times, but I’m sure they do. Jet lag, etc. When the camera zoomed in on the players before 1st pitch, they looked like zombies. I thought Freeman was going to fall over and take a nap and use 1st base as a pillow.
These aren’t “little” mid May games any more.
Ryan Dempster Sux
August 13th, 2012
9:51 pm
D-Lowe with a 4-inning save in his debut with the Yanks … and Ryan Dempster still sux
abeeewright
August 13th, 2012
9:51 pm
Keep it to a save situation here.
Braves have the “big guns” coming up in the bottom of the ninth.
Mitchell
August 13th, 2012
9:52 pm
Why is my comment awaiting moderation?
What did I say that was offensive?
abeeewright
August 13th, 2012
9:53 pm
Chipper, Freeman, Uggla get on base.
McCann ends it with a granny.
TBbravesfan
August 13th, 2012
9:53 pm
those 5 useless runs we got lastnight would look good tonight
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 13th, 2012
9:54 pm
abwright—
Sounds good to me!…
Enee, Meenee, Minee, Jim
August 13th, 2012
9:54 pm
Big buns been shooting blanks
Mark
August 13th, 2012
9:54 pm
Tony
Ordinarily I might agree with you and even now don;t disagree but who would you move up??
ChattTownBrian
August 13th, 2012
9:55 pm
njbraves, Minor has been on a decent roll against the Padres lineup which is pretty terrible, and you have Chipper and Freeman in the middle of your lineup. They very easily could’ve brushed off doing much of any homework on the SD pitcher tonight to get a few hours of sleep and movie time in.
Maybe not, just a thought.
Enee, Meenee, Minee, Jim
August 13th, 2012
9:55 pm
Big guns, not big buns
Capt.Mudd
August 13th, 2012
9:55 pm
Hi cabravesfan, how are u tonite…..ralley cap on
abeeewright
August 13th, 2012
9:55 pm
McFann … that prediction was for you.
old man
August 13th, 2012
9:55 pm
@njbraves
I would love to hear about the meeting that the non-pitchers had to discuss Stults before the game. But I can’t, because it didn’t happen. In the real world, if you say you can’t make the sales staff meeting because you go in late last night from a trip, well, you are no longer on the sales staff. Honestly, I would like to know what kind of prep the hitters got on this guy they have never faced.
cabravesfan
August 13th, 2012
9:56 pm
Capt’n-
aside from feeling a little stabby, I’m ok. You?
Counting down the days until the boys are here so I can go see them again
cabravesfan
August 13th, 2012
9:56 pm
Also looking forward to a little mini-vacation
abeeewright
August 13th, 2012
9:57 pm
After enee’s “big buns” mistake, I was tempted to post the lyrics to Spinal Tap’s “Big Bottom.”
Hugo Z Hackenbush
August 13th, 2012
9:57 pm
Should be noted that Gearrin has an ERA of 0.87.
abeeewright
August 13th, 2012
9:57 pm
Freeman’s BA on the first pitch took a big hit tonight. 0-4.
JC Brave
August 13th, 2012
9:58 pm
That’s the way to start a ninth inning rally!!!
Go Braves!!!
Losing to the Padres!!
Keep it going!!
Losers!
ChattTownBrian
August 13th, 2012
9:58 pm
That pitcher thinks it’s “Civil War” night at the park with that facial stuff.
TNScott
August 13th, 2012
9:58 pm
Back to our Old Monday Ways.
abeeewright
August 13th, 2012
9:58 pm
My prediction was dismally wrong.
Pace
August 13th, 2012
9:59 pm
Sorry performance tonite
Hate to see it for Minor (pitched ok)
I am trying to stay positive
Talk to everyone later
Mark
August 13th, 2012
9:59 pm
Very unispiring game. Crappy, stinky, sucky……………….pitiful
Capt.Mudd
August 13th, 2012
9:59 pm
Sounds good and you deserve it all. @cabravesfan
old man
August 13th, 2012
9:59 pm
We are in a pennant race, and we get one run against some piece of crap pitcher? Ugh.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
August 13th, 2012
9:59 pm
The weight-obsessed people here probably thought that “buns” was not a typo…
abeeewright
August 13th, 2012
10:00 pm
At least the one game play-in won’t be on a Monday.
T-Dawg
August 13th, 2012
10:00 pm
So many automatic outs.
tony austin
August 13th, 2012
10:00 pm
Well that didn’t take long. Oh well, can’t do anything about it tonight, go get ‘em tomorrow boys!
JC Brave
August 13th, 2012
10:00 pm
Mike Minor loses another start courtesy of the mighty Offense’s huge run support!
Great job!
This is the best offense AND team in the whole world!
Mark
August 13th, 2012
10:01 pm
Chatt
I almost posted that last guy looked like Chamberlin in Gettysberg but I was too disgusted
cabravesfan
August 13th, 2012
10:02 pm
Capt’n-
really looking forward to it, even if it’s only 1 night
cabravesfan
August 13th, 2012
10:02 pm
Now it’s dinner time…
DC NAT
August 13th, 2012
10:03 pm
CONGRATULATIONS PADRES ON AN EASY WIN AT TURNER FIELD!
Hugo Z Hackenbush
August 13th, 2012
10:03 pm
Yeah, too bad we don’t have a high-powered offense like that Texas team…you know, the one that scored two runs tonight against…someone named Phelps? And zero runs against that genius Derek Lowe?
Hmmmm
August 13th, 2012
10:04 pm
another lefty faces erratic Huddy tomorrow. Maybe the bats can find one or two runs and Huddy can pitch a great rebound game
Mark
August 13th, 2012
10:04 pm
Time to re-evaluate…
Braves need to think about what they are out there for…
I need to think about why I’m wasting time watching and blogging such sorriness…
ROB
August 13th, 2012
10:05 pm
braves looked like dogs tonight. i dont get why we got Reed Johnson to face lefties yet we didnt start him last two nights and did nothing vs lefties. oh by the way when he started saturday vs santana, a LEFTY we won
Hugo Z Hackenbush
August 13th, 2012
10:05 pm
The door swings both ways Marko…
Mark
August 13th, 2012
10:05 pm
Jordon with a tip your cap.
Venice Jim
August 13th, 2012
10:06 pm
Losing 2 games in a row is completely unacceptable. The Nats have not lost 2 in a row since May, 2008…
Hugo Z Hackenbush
August 13th, 2012
10:08 pm
Damn it all, we missed out on Dempster and his 8.31 ERA…
George
August 13th, 2012
10:08 pm
What a team.
Padres Won 52— Lost 65
Our GREAT TEAM — Won 66— Lost 49
HAVE NO DRIVE
The A Bomb
August 13th, 2012
10:09 pm
Padres are 32-24 since June 12.
TuffShhhtuff
August 13th, 2012
10:11 pm
Someone’s looking forward to Hudson tomorrow night. Lest I remind you, he had a 6 run lead last time out, and blew it. Some people have a short memory. One thing about it. The Padres should be able to work on their dismal road record while facing the Braves. If not for the Cubs they would have the worst.
Nerdville
August 13th, 2012
10:12 pm
Braves Offense = choke, choke, gag, gag, whiff, whiff, pop up, dribble, dribble, go sit down.
Pathetic.
TuffShhhtuff
August 13th, 2012
10:14 pm
The worst thing about losing 2 games in a row is the fact it was against the Mets and the Padres!
Venice Jim
August 13th, 2012
10:15 pm
Braves Offense = choke, choke, gag, gag, whiff, whiff, pop up, dribble, dribble, go sit down.
Pathetic.
Just imagine how it would be to root for one of the 14 NL teams which has scored less runs than the Braves…
monty
August 13th, 2012
10:17 pm
Feast or famine. Hekyl and Jekyl.
Hmmmm
August 13th, 2012
10:19 pm
with a poor showing against the dodgers the pirates are in danger of falling out of the playoff race completely (and losing game 1 puts LA 1.5 games back of them)
Hugo Z Hackenbush
August 13th, 2012
10:20 pm
No, the worst thing about two losses in a row is having to read the brain-dead blatherings of the fair-weather fans here…
Charles
August 13th, 2012
10:21 pm
The Braves can’t lose two in a row against teams like the Mets and Padres and expect to gain against the Nats. Their staff is too strong and they have a solid lineup top to bottom. The best prospect in baseball, Bryce Harper, is on the bench because he’s hitting .250 since the break. I agree with the comments that a 1 game wild card game doesn’t favor the Braves because they don’t have a shutdown guy like Kershaw. So I guess we’ll watch the Braves choke in another playoff game this year. At least it will only be one night. And Dave, while the schedule may favor the Braves, they have only 1 day off for the next month which doesn’t help Chipper, Hudson, McCann who have had injury issues this year. Another missed opportunity the last two nights. Can’t afford many of those if you want to play more than 1 playoff game.
VaBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
10:22 pm
We don’t play well enough at home, not really an advantage for us.
Mister Frisky
August 13th, 2012
10:22 pm
Hugo Z Whackenoff must be Lobosolo in disguise.
Venice Jim
August 13th, 2012
10:24 pm
Ummm…Bryce Harper sat out only 1 game several days ago – he’s already struck out tonight…
Mark
August 13th, 2012
10:25 pm
Freddi says hes going to 6 man rotation the rest of the month to see who does the best and then see who gets the 5 spots.
Funny that the pitchers have to perform and earn their spots but some of the position players can suck for days and months on end yet their names just keep getting penciled in every day.
VaBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
10:25 pm
Nats already have an early lead against the Giants
VaBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
10:26 pm
We had a great shot at breaking the brooms out against the AAA Astro’s and Struggling Mets but didn’t get it done.
ROB
August 13th, 2012
10:27 pm
After last seasons collapse we probably should root for the Nats against the likes of Pitt SF LA just to help us get to a wild card game which we all know we will lose anyway
VaBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
10:30 pm
Jason Heyward has struck out 3 times in a game 9 times this season and has 116 Ks on the season. He’s K’d in 28% of his ABs…..
ROB
August 13th, 2012
10:31 pm
another lefty tomorrow – i bet Reed stays put on bench – btw last 2 starts for tomorrows starter Clayton Richard – 2-0 16IP 1 Run
Venice Jim
August 13th, 2012
10:38 pm
Matthew Diaz @diazfoundation
Thanks for asking bout my thumb have surgery wed am. Ill miss bein part of this playoff run, but now I’m the biggest braves fan w y’all
TuffShhhtuff
August 13th, 2012
10:43 pm
“VBF” JHey pales in comparison to Uggla and his SO’s vs salary. Heyward is making $565K this year and Mr. Uggs is at $13M. Uggs also has lots more experience. JHey may have K’d 28% of the time but before tonight’s game Uggs had a 34% rating for strikeouts. When you compare the two, it’s actually hard to comprehend.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
10:44 pm
Matthew Diaz @diazfoundation
Thanks for asking bout my thumb have surgery wed am. Ill miss bein part of this playoff run, but now I’m the biggest braves fan w y’all
No biggie… we got ourselves a better lefty killer… and he can hit righties too!
Looked totally different at the plate tonight than last night… inconsistent. Still in a good position for the playoffs.
Mark
August 13th, 2012
10:45 pm
Va
Hadn’t checked the stats but he isn’t leading the team in K’s is he?
He’s probably 3rd!
VaBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
10:46 pm
Since the Giants beat us 2 outta 3 and the Nationals embarrassing us we’ve won 6 consecutive series with only sweeping once outta the 6. So were on a awesome stretch but still find ourselves 5 games back lol…
VaBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
10:51 pm
Dan Uggla is 5th in MLB in strikeouts and Heyward is 11th and Bourn 14th. No other Brave until 72nd Freeman
Looks Like Popeye and Rakes Like Olive Oyl
August 13th, 2012
10:51 pm
For people not that worried about the Nats and who think they are STILL a fluke, a large number of you seem fixated with them.
By the way, I guess the near orgasmic reaction to “Popeye” having a couple of good games, may have been a tad premature. What year are the die hards willing to wait for until they concede that Popeye just may have lost SOMETHING around 2010?
JC Brave
August 13th, 2012
10:54 pm
And the Nationals don’t even waste time scoring a run.
Venice Jim
August 13th, 2012
11:01 pm
And they have now loaded the bases …
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
11:03 pm
We should all either become Nats fans or just go ahead and hand them the WS rings… they’re invincible.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
11:04 pm
Chipper Jones @RealCJ10
Pops always said if u dont have anything good to say, keep ur mouth shut! Nothin good happened tonite. Gotta turn it around tmrw w/ Huddy!
DS1
August 13th, 2012
11:04 pm
Sounds like a definite sub 500 team we’re talking about tonight, huh. Before Sunday, what was our run differential in the past 2-3 weeks?
But heck no, you’re not allowed to have a couple of games where you don’t kill the competition.
Some of you folks are re dick u lus.
and yes, the Nats are a better team than the Braves.
DS1
August 13th, 2012
11:06 pm
Damned Freddie Freeman. Don’t he know we need him to hit a dinger EVERY night?
Carroll Rogers
August 13th, 2012
11:06 pm
postgame quotes are up!
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/08/13/braves-postgame-quotes-following-mondays-loss/
Hmmmm
August 13th, 2012
11:07 pm
Chipper’s hating on the team …….
Venice Jim
August 13th, 2012
11:07 pm
LaRoche walked to bring a run home, and Morse singles in another…
Venice Jim
August 13th, 2012
11:08 pm
Nats playing station-to-station – Espinosa single…
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
11:08 pm
Thanks CR!
DS1: It’s blasphemy to say the Nats are better… according to scoots and others (myself included) the Nats are going to fall back to earth… They’ve been going at this (out-of-the-world) pace for 4 months now…
Venice Jim
August 13th, 2012
11:09 pm
Vogelsong’s ERA creeping upward…
DS1
August 13th, 2012
11:09 pm
Post game quotes? Just a buncha cap tippin……..
Hmmmm
August 13th, 2012
11:10 pm
Giants + big hole + playing at home = loss in the making
Venice Jim
August 13th, 2012
11:10 pm
And Bernadina with an infield hit…
ACE
August 13th, 2012
11:10 pm
Another great job by Fredi motivating these players.
DS1
August 13th, 2012
11:11 pm
TOBF
Personally, I think we might have a better team. But maybe not. But then again, I am the optimist. But even I can be happy with the record we have tonight. It’s a long season, and a lot can happen between now and October.
I’ll keep the faith.
Venice Jim
August 13th, 2012
11:11 pm
Yes, because the players are to stupid to know that they are supposed to want to win – excellent point!
DS1
August 13th, 2012
11:11 pm
VJ
Got the email… thanks.
Venice Jim
August 13th, 2012
11:12 pm
8-0…
Trader Jack
August 13th, 2012
11:12 pm
Nats are rolling the Giants
Venice Jim
August 13th, 2012
11:12 pm
Vogelsong ERA from 2.27 to 2.72…
Looks Like Popeye and Rakes Like Olive Oyl
August 13th, 2012
11:12 pm
OCD?????????????
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
11:13 pm
Astros really sukk… this is from when they played the Nats…
http://youtu.be/7PXj8m4yZyo
Venice Jim
August 13th, 2012
11:13 pm
Bochy got kicked out, and 3 more runs scored – I thought fighting was supposed to fire up the troops…
Venice Jim
August 13th, 2012
11:16 pm
That’s about 4 singles now where the Nats’ runner on 2nd stopped at 3rd…(okay, so I’m grasping for something to knock them with)…
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
11:16 pm
Agree with ya DS1… I’m an optimist too. I think that when we’re on, we’re better than the Nats, but unfortunately, they’ve had their way with us this year, and they haven’t slumped too much against other teams… Can only hope that they’re like the Braves of 2010 and that they fall out of first place at the end.
Take out the Nats, and I think we have an “easy” road to the World Series.
DS1
August 13th, 2012
11:16 pm
Cap tippin time in the city by the bay!
Reality Check
August 13th, 2012
11:17 pm
Get some sleep you guys. This team has had its once a decade type collapse. Well, the “old” Nats could never have been referred to as having a “once a decade collapse”, but this is not that old team. I Know!! I Know!!! They will NEVER keep up this pace.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
11:17 pm
Ryan Dempster with another bad start…. good for him.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
11:18 pm
Amanda Comak @acomak
In 21 previous starts this season, Ryan Vogelson hadn’t allowed more than 4 ER in any outing. It’s 8-0 #Nats in the third right now.
Those Nats just hit.
ACE
August 13th, 2012
11:18 pm
A grea quote by Fredi. Not to point anyone out but FREEMAN only saw four pitches the rest of the night after his first at bat.
DS1
August 13th, 2012
11:18 pm
TOBF
It’s all about getting hot at the right time of year. It could happen, and it could just as easily not happen too.
But we’ll hope for the best.
If we play like we have so far in August, we’ll get to the WS and lose when we go cold the last 2 games. Shyt happens.
DS1
August 13th, 2012
11:20 pm
TOBF
Concerning Dempster, couldn’t happen to a nicer guy! And that comes from the heart.
Hmmmm
August 13th, 2012
11:20 pm
2 and 2/3 and Vogelsong hits the showers, he looked very Santana-ish tonight
DS1
August 13th, 2012
11:21 pm
I’m outta here. Gonna go see whats on the Food Network. Later fans.
Bo Graves!
Venice Jim
August 13th, 2012
11:21 pm
Prior to tonight
Braves: .255/.326/.402
Nats .256/.319/.414
ACE
August 13th, 2012
11:21 pm
VJ, I am sure you have had some students you had to motivate. While a professional ball player should be ready to play, it is still part of the managers job to have them ready.
Venice Jim
August 13th, 2012
11:24 pm
And because they did not hit well tonight automatically means the manager did not have them ready? Do you think Bruce Bochy failed to properly motivate Vogelsong tonight?
VaBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
11:24 pm
Nationals are on the Road vs a contending team and have a 8 run lead and likely to gain another game on us as we only scored 1 run at home vs a bottom of the barrel team. While we will most likely come back and win this series were not gaining any ground.
Ryan Dempster feels like a complete idiot about now. So glad the trade didn’t go threw…. Trading 5 years of Delgado for 2 months of Dempster.. Would have been a loss in my book with anything less than a NLCS appearance.
tony austin
August 13th, 2012
11:28 pm
Sorry folks but the Braves ain’t catching the Nats unless the Nats completely fall apart. It could happen but not likely they way they’ve been playing.
The Braves could easily win a one game playoff. Unless the opposition throws a soft tossing 5W 14L lefty with a 4.55 ERA.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
11:29 pm
To see how he has just blown up in his 2 starts…. granted it’s the AL, but still… brings me some satisfaction.
Just makes me wonder how some thought that the trade was okay… The guy was gonna fall off, and to give up Delgado for that was just awful.
Carroll Rogers
August 13th, 2012
11:30 pm
final gamer is up
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/08/13/braves-drop-series-opener-to-padres/
VaBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
11:31 pm
Hopefully the Nationals go threw a rough stretch soon so we can catch em. I believe the team we have now will be better than the team we field next season. Just no way we’ll be able to replace Chipper and Bourn with better or equal talent. It will mainly be up to Heyward and Freeman to take the next step as producers.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
11:31 pm
Thank you so much Carroll. I guess it’s back to DOB tomorrow?
tony austin
August 13th, 2012
11:32 pm
Thanks for your hard work Carroll. It could not have been easy to sit through this game
I do appreciate all the endless work you and DOB do to cover this team.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
11:33 pm
ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
Ryan Dempster allowed his grand slam on a slider. He’s allowed 4 HR on his slider with Rangers, had only allowed 3 w/slider with Cubs in2012
monty
August 13th, 2012
11:34 pm
Tony Austin
“Sorry folks but the Braves ain’t catching the Nats unless the Nats completely fall apart. It could happen but not likely they way they’ve been playing.”
Thanks for the heads up Tony.
tony austin
August 13th, 2012
11:35 pm
The Atlanta Braves and all their fans really do owe Dempster a steak dinner! This is possibly one the best trades that was never made.
Kelevra
August 13th, 2012
11:37 pm
Losing games is just a part of baseball and I get that. It’s the way we lose these games that is frustrating. No life, terrible at bats, just giving the game away. If they had battled all night and it just wasn’t there night then I could accept but the poor effort, to me, is the most telling part.
Hmmmm
August 13th, 2012
11:37 pm
Nats probably hoping they repeat this performance on Wednesday so Strasburg can be pulled early and extended his season
Venice Jim
August 13th, 2012
11:38 pm
I should just close out the GameDay tab – every time I look it gets worse – I was hoping that would be a bit more entertaining with 2 more working hours remaining…
tony austin
August 13th, 2012
11:38 pm
Sorry monty, having a bad night. Let me rephrase: Buckle up folks, for starting tomorrow the train to the NL East title is leaving the station heading towards Washington. The Nats will never know what hit them as the Braves come speeding by! The Atlanta Braves, your 2012 NL East Champions!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
11:40 pm
I’ll use my rights to decide whether or not I’ll pay for a steak dinner for Dempster… I’ll wait until the last possible minute to decide. I really want to give the dinner to Kate Upton, but if if I can’t, then I guess I’ll give it Dempster.
Oh crap, now I can’t go with either of them. I’ll bring Nate McLouth.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
11:43 pm
Matthew Diaz @diazfoundation
Thanks for thots, pls know 2 things, I’m at peace, & kinda relieved to have a gm pln. 2 braves r great and r j is a better version of me!!
Wow, he admits Reed Johnson is better! More respect for Matty D
Venice Jim
August 13th, 2012
11:45 pm
I was about to come back and comment that he had agreed with you…
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 13th, 2012
11:54 pm
I’m off to bed… Good night all!
Peace.
Venice Jim
August 14th, 2012
12:13 am
Let’s hope that tomorrow night it will be the Nats’ fans turn to to wish they had saved some runs…
Venice Jim
August 14th, 2012
12:14 am
Checking up on the stats – Gio Gonzalez has never lost a game when staked to a 14 run lead…
Carroll Rogers
August 14th, 2012
12:21 am
Diaz headed for surgery, likely out for the season….
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/08/13/diaz-headed-for-surgery-likely-out-for-season/
ACE
August 14th, 2012
12:28 am
VJ, I don’t know if you have ever coached at any level but I have and a lot of times you have to get your team motivated to play. Should Fredi have to do this with professionals? Of course not but it is a sad reality that making millions is sometimes not enought. How many players have you heard through the years that said they loved the fact that Bobby cheered them on while they were batting. Is that every coaches style? No, but when you team seems to almost always come out flat on Monday something is going on. I am sure you remember many years ago when Andruw jogged after a ball and Bobby pulled him out of the game then. I am sure that motivated Andruw not to let that happen again.
ACE
August 14th, 2012
12:30 am
Fredi doesn’t seem to have much fire or spark about him. The team is a reflection of that.
Venice Jim
August 14th, 2012
12:36 am
Only coached a couple of teams to state championship games…
People here have complained about the Braves having no spark for as long as I’ve been here – I just figure we have no idea about any of it except speculation…
ACE
August 14th, 2012
12:40 am
The braves have often been said to have a business like approach and no fire. I hope they can put together a good run and catch the Nats. Though with the way the Nats are playing it will take them having a losing streak.
Venice Jim
August 14th, 2012
12:43 am
It has not been a good couple of weeks to be checking up on the Nats, that for sure…
ACE
August 14th, 2012
12:43 am
Making it to the state championship is a great thing and sometimes a once in a lifetime thing. My HS football team won the state championship but has since had only 3 winning seasons. We still hold out hope for better days.
ACE
August 14th, 2012
12:44 am
You are right, not fun scoreboard watching.
Venice Jim
August 14th, 2012
12:45 am
At least the Giants managed to score against Gio, and knock him out of the game…
Venice Jim
August 14th, 2012
12:45 am
But Gregor Blanco, sadly, does not make up for the 12 run deficit…
ACE
August 14th, 2012
12:51 am
The Pirate, Dodgers and Cards not far behind in the WC race. Here’s hoping that the Braves can take care of business and not need help from anyone down the stretch to win one of the wild cards.
JC Brave
August 14th, 2012
12:52 am
LOL!
Look at the Nationals feasting on the Giants, 14-2.
5 games back after tonight.
Keep the losses coming, Braves!
JC Brave
August 14th, 2012
12:54 am
Scratch that, 5.5 games back now.
Venice Jim
August 14th, 2012
12:59 am
Keep the losses coming, Braves!
Thanks for your support…glad they made someone happy tonight….
ACE
August 14th, 2012
1:01 am
Schultz says yes to six man rotation, Bradley says no.
JC Brave
August 14th, 2012
1:13 am
For someone who uses dry sarcasm every day of the week, you sure have a lot of trouble understanding it when others use it…
Venice Jim
August 14th, 2012
1:18 am
No – I understand what you are doing – but when every post you makes seems to revel in the Braves’ misfortune, I fear that you have lost sight of the difference…because you really do seem to be happier when the Braves are losing – and, let’s face it, you post less frequently when they win…
Ryan
August 14th, 2012
1:20 am
Cubs beat Astros in rain 31,000 fans Braves get beat by Padres in front of 18,000. Are you ready for some football.When you have a manager like Freddi and a player like Uggla . No Bourn is not worth 10 mil look at McCann and Uggla and you see why not. 6 man rotation how about more offence .
Venice Jim
August 14th, 2012
1:23 am
On that note, I must shut down the computer and prepare to head home – have a good night!
Ward
August 14th, 2012
1:26 am
Hello everyone! We play for the Wild Card, and take the Nats in the Postseason. Braves need to hold off the Dodgers, but even the Wild Card is not looking good right now. I’m preparing for a long fight until the end……
ACE
August 14th, 2012
1:28 am
Have a good night VJ. Look for a win from Hudson.
JC Brave
August 14th, 2012
1:29 am
I enjoy the wins, nothing to criticize about them for me to even comment anything most of the time.
Now, whenever they lose – not that they shouldn’t – I use this form of sarcasm and all of my laugher to block all the damn anger that fills me.
You can’t win them all and no loss is supposed to be “pretty”; but you have to admit that when they lose, they do it in such a disheartening fashion and against such “bad and beatable” teams, it makes it harder to swallow the loss.
Ward
August 14th, 2012
1:29 am
Diaz, Wont miss your bat……Happy surgery. Braves need a big bat. At least a call up for some one?
ACE
August 14th, 2012
1:29 am
It could come down to the final series of the season.
Ward
August 14th, 2012
1:33 am
Ace – I’m afraid I’ll have to agree with you. It’s not looking too good, but I’m cool…..
Ward
August 14th, 2012
1:43 am
New name for Turner Field. Death……….Where the bats seem to die…..little humor.
Ward
August 14th, 2012
1:51 am
We will have to shake it off, and get them tomorrow. Tomorrow will be a better day!
Ward
August 14th, 2012
1:52 am
Moving the fences in could help the Bats? Just an idea…….
Ward
August 14th, 2012
2:01 am
Anyways, there will be another day, so let’s go get them…….Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!” Talk tomorrow……
Veer
August 14th, 2012
3:37 am
Division is out of hand for us now. Nationals beat a contending Giants team while we get dominated by the lowely Padres. Nationals swept the Astros while we lost a game to Astros. Bottom line is Division is out of reach. We just have to hang on to the wildcard.
Mike Minor is a disgrace. He gave up so many hits to the weak Padre team. We should just go with a 5 man rotation. Mike Minor doesnt deserve to start this season. This is 2 straight starts that he has lost.
WE CANT BEAT THE PADRES
OUR DIVISION HOPES END WITH TODAYS LOSS
Couch Tater
August 14th, 2012
4:29 am
“I’ll take a day when we get a righty here and there so I don’t hang Francisco out to dry.”
I thought Chipper’s comment was revealing.
Francisco career: 276 PA’s against RH, 64 against LH. SLG%: 514 vs.230.
Couch Tater
August 14th, 2012
5:14 am
Another leftie tonight for the Padres. The Francisco order will be nun.
richbrave
August 14th, 2012
6:43 am
If teams were going to constantly throw LH pitchers at me, then I would counter with this line-up
BOURN
PRADO
JONES
FREEMAN
JOHNSON
HEYWARD
ROSS
JANISH
BRAVES FAN
August 14th, 2012
6:43 am
another loss woopeee
i said earlier braves go 2-2 against san diego
believe me now?
already 0-1
BRAVES FAN
August 14th, 2012
6:45 am
rihbrave
thats why u not the manager
heyward is not coming out the 3 hole
BRAVES FAN
August 14th, 2012
6:46 am
only the braves have probs with lh pitching
good teams like the cardinals,nats dont
Tomahawkin
August 14th, 2012
7:34 am
Its a Trap Series, of Course they are going to go 2-2…
We are not gonna Catch The Curley W’s
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
8:12 am
richbrave: There’s no McCann in that lineup…. hurry and change it before McFann sees!
Playoffs!!!
August 14th, 2012
8:21 am
Need to get Reed Johnson in there tonight. Give Heyward a night off.
AND it might be time to go with a McCann/Ross platoon.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
8:25 am
Yeah, not a great performance vs. Stults. They aren’t great vs. LHP, or at least haven’t been this year.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
8:26 am
We’ll catch them T’Hawkin. We’ll catch up later this month, early September. Bank on it!
keylargo
August 14th, 2012
8:27 am
Great Britain was embarrassed with their medal count in the USA Olympics in 1996. They have since rededicated fitness into the lives of their citizens that really showed in the medal counts this year.
1996 36th place Great Britain 1(G) 8(S) 6(B) 15(Overall)
2012 4th place Great Britain 29(G) 17(S) 19(B) 65(Overall)
The USA certainly could do better at teaching young kids, which is where you learn you life habits, how to be more fit and show some pride in their physical fitness.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
8:29 am
I think you have to give Jason a night off tonight. Fredi brought this up when they acquired Reed Johnson. He’s clearly not going through a great stretch right now with a sub-.700 OPS in August as we are halfway through the month. LHP on the mound tonight in Richard, makes a lot of sense to sit Jason and give him a breather.
In his last 34 games since July 5th, Jason Heyward has struck out 48 times in 133 at bats, 151 PA’s. .263/.344/.429 in that stretch with a .363 BAbip.
That’s a 162 game pace of 229 K’s.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
8:34 am
Uggla in August: .256/.356/.410/.766 with a .346 BABIP. 12 K vs. 5 BB
Jimmy
August 14th, 2012
8:34 am
If the Giants would have won last night, they’d be 1/2 game behind us in the WC standing.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
8:35 am
Heyward is hitting .200/.256/.400 in his last 10 games, 43 plate appearances.
Since being moved up in the order on June 26th vs. Arizona, he has hit .253/.328/.424 in 192 plate appearances.
Of course, he had just finished a stretch of .391/.417/.754 over 72 plate appearances and 19 games so he was due to tail off.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
8:38 am
Since the ASB, BMac has hit .224/.330/.447/.777with a .207 BABIP and has grounded into 4 DP. Ugly… wonder if the break hurt him more than it helped… he was getting out of his slump around the time of the ASB.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
8:39 am
If the Giants would have won last night, they’d be 1/2 game behind us in the WC standing.
How? They are 4 back in the loss column after losing, 3.5 games overall. I think you’re reading the WC standings wrong. It’s just based off the last spot and the teams behind Pitt.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
8:42 am
Heyward is hitting .252/.323/.408 at home. On the road, much different story – .283/.359/.541
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
8:46 am
LHP Clayton Richard has held LH hitters to a .196/.242/.245 slash line this year.
RH batters have hit .273/.313/.465 vs. him this year.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
8:47 am
BMac’s last 10 games: .188/.316/.313/.628 with a .192 BABIP. .190/.292/.190/.482 over his last 6.
D. Ross last 10 games: .214/.313/.357.670 with a .278 BABIP. .273/.360/.455/.815 over his last 6.
Arkansas Transplant
August 14th, 2012
8:47 am
This team has some serious deficiencies when facing LHP.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
8:47 am
Freddie Freeman saw 4 pitches last night.
brian
August 14th, 2012
8:48 am
no Uggla richbrave?
Arkansas Transplant
August 14th, 2012
8:48 am
I really hope the FO looks at moving Uggla during the offseason.
brian
August 14th, 2012
8:48 am
it’s Tuesday today- with Monday in the rearview mirror I expect a win tonight
Lew
August 14th, 2012
8:51 am
“Time to re-evaluate. Braves need to think about what they’re doing out there….I need to think about why I’m wasting time watching and blogging about such sorriness.”
Yes, many of us wonder the same thing about you and some others here. Why do you bother? Do the rest of us a favor and find a new pastime. This one obviously brings you no gratification and your reaction brings us none. Don’t let the door hit you in the behind on your way out. Take many of your friends with you.
TennesseePaul
August 14th, 2012
8:52 am
So, has MFin jumped?
TennesseePaul
August 14th, 2012
8:53 am
Freddie Freeman saw 4 pitches last night.
And he liked all 4 of them… ( :
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
8:54 am
Against tonight’s SP, Clayton Richard, BMac is 5-7, with 3 doubles, 4 RBI, 1 BB, and no Ks. Maybe let him start tonight? (even though it is a small sample size)
TennesseePaul
August 14th, 2012
8:54 am
Heyward is hitting .252/.323/.408 at home. On the road, much different story – .283/.359/.541
It’s all about the offense isn’t it? Just posting slash lines … ( :
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
8:56 am
Meanwhile, David Ross is 0-3 against Richard, with 2 Ks.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
8:57 am
Teams lose games sometimes. And once and a while, it happens in consecutive fashion. People need to get over it.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
8:58 am
no Uggla richbrave?
Uggla isn’t great against lefties…
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
8:58 am
It’s all about the offense isn’t it? Just posting slash lines
Totally fun to post slash lines, but when we are talking value – it ain’t close.
TennesseePaul
August 14th, 2012
9:00 am
I really hope the FO looks at moving Uggla during the offseason.
It would be a brilliant move! There is still $26M left to pay him for 2 years. The FO would be “selling low” coming off his least HR season of his career, so the return would be minimal… and then they’d need to fill yet another position on the roster… so either spend more of that finite amount of cash they have, meaning they can’t acquire an impact player anywhere, or trade more of those young pitchers they have, aka “mortgage the future”… just to avoid 2 years of a player who is producing above average offense for 2B coupled with adequate defense. Trade him Wren!
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
9:01 am
Only 3 and a half more weeks in the minor league baseball season – sad.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
9:02 am
There is still $26M left to pay him for 2 years.
I think he’s owed 39.6 million through 2015…..
TennesseePaul
August 14th, 2012
9:02 am
I take that back, $39M for 3 years. Even better! That should really help in trading him! Do it Wren. It’s genius!
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
9:04 am
But I agree with you, the contract was signed 18 months ago – what’s really changed? Still need that RH presence in the lineup and you’d be selling low AND most likely having to eat some cash or just getting nothing back. Not a good move, imo. Uggla will get hot again.
TennesseePaul
August 14th, 2012
9:07 am
Last night ended an 18 game on-base streak for Freeman. Over that period he hit .317/.461/.500/.961 with 15 walks and 7 strike outs.
TennesseePaul
August 14th, 2012
9:08 am
Not a good move, imo.
It’s one of the dumbest moves that is constantly suggested here. It’s just a ridiculously, irresponsibly, bad move.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
9:09 am
Mike Minor’s last 12 appearances – 71.2 IP, 58 hits, 26 ER, 10 HR allowed, 26 BB’s, 56 K’s, .225/.294/.403 oppo slash line, 3.27 ERA.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
9:10 am
And on Schultz blog the other day, people were saying to cut out Minor.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
9:10 am
Last night ended an 18 game on-base streak for Freeman. Over that period he hit .317/.461/.500/.961 with 15 walks and 7 strike outs.
Impressive. The plate appearances the last six weeks have been the best on the team. Him and Chipper, I think.
TennesseePaul
August 14th, 2012
9:12 am
Mike Minor’s last 12 appearances
25 XBH in that time out of 58 total hits allowed. When the opposition sees him, they crush the ball.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
9:13 am
Mike Minor’s last 7 appearances since July 1st – 44 IP, 34 hits, 12 ER, 5 HR allowed, 8 BB’s, 35 K’s, .219/.261/.374 oppo slash line, 2.45 ERA.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
9:14 am
Tommy Hanson’s last 12 appearances– 68.1 IP, 74 Hits, 40 ER, 14 HR, 31 BB, 63 K, .280/.359/.519/.878 opp. slash line, with a 5.27 ERA. A .319 BABIP against him.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
9:15 am
25 XBH in that time out of 58 total hits allowed. When the opposition sees him, they crush the ball.
A trend that has been with him his entire major league career, thus #3 starter ceiling for Polished. When he was going good 2nd half of 2011 – I think he surrendered a SLG of over .470. Minor gives up lots of XBH.
TennesseePaul
August 14th, 2012
9:17 am
Tommy Hanson’s last
The guy has been bad for over a year now.
TennesseePaul
August 14th, 2012
9:17 am
Minor gives up lots of XBH.
But he maintains his poise as the opposition circles the bags, thus he is Polished.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
9:19 am
The guy has been bad for over a year now.
Which might make it hard to trade him for anything of value… he’s not that young or cheap anymore… Damn the shoulder injury.
TennesseePaul
August 14th, 2012
9:20 am
152.2 IP, oppoLine: .276/.350/.478/.828, 5.2 IP per start. 4.95 ERA. since July 16th, 2011 for Tommy Hanson.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
9:20 am
The guy has been bad for over a year now.
Shoulder. Loss of velocity and command. I still think he has solid trade value if he comes back and looks decent.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 14th, 2012
9:24 am
TOBF Against tonight’s SP, Clayton Richard, BMac is 5-7, with 3 doubles, 4 RBI, 1 BB, and no Ks
Awesome sauce!! Yes—let BMac start tonight!! Ross cann go tomorrow—I’m not gonna see the game tomorrow, anyway…
But…Fredi been so enamored with the Timmy-Ross thing lately (even though Timmy’s numbers are better with BMac this year)…and it’s a lefty…and Chipper wants to wait and sit against a righty…so Ross prolly goes tonight…
DAP
August 14th, 2012
9:26 am
keylargo The USA certainly could do better at teaching young kids, which is where you learn you life habits, how to be more fit and show some pride in their physical fitness.
are you suggesting that the olympic medal count reflects the overall fitness of an entire country?
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
9:26 am
Hanson had a 8.10 ERA in 5 starts after coming back from the DL in 2011 – July 16th – August 6th.
4.29 ERA in 22 starts this year. I think he isn’t as bad as that year mark indicates.
richbrave
August 14th, 2012
9:26 am
It’s time to sit UGGLA and McCANN.
I can’y justify sitting HEYWARD or FREEMAN in favor of UGGLA. They’re both more productive than either UGGLA or McCANN right now.
PRADO back to 2B where he belongs. JONES at third, and REED JOHNSON in left.
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Juan
August 14th, 2012
9:27 am
Juan
August 13th, 2012
9:54 am
Don’t sleep on the Pads….this team is playing good lately.
Jeff R
August 13th, 2012
9:57 am
Don’t sleep on the Pads….this team is playing good lately.
Not that good. The Padres looked gawd-awful yesterday. There pitching is young and inexperienced.
ncscoots
August 13th, 2012
11:31 am
Padres have been winning some games of late….sigh.
Mostly against the Cubs and Mets. Not exactly a rousing recommendation.
raleighbravefan
August 14th, 2012
9:28 am
If not a “perfect storm”, last night, at least a recipe for a tough game to win :
- Monday
- 3AM arrival from NY
- Monday
- Lefty at the top of his game, throwing the kind of junk that always gives us trouble.
- Monday
- Hot opponent (32-24 since June 24, 7 of last 8, Headley player of the week last week).
- Monday
Can’t redo last night…move on, and go get them tonight!
Juan
August 14th, 2012
9:29 am
I think the Pads cut us Sleeeeping last night
richbrave
August 14th, 2012
9:30 am
So in the off-season BOURN and McCANN hit the FA market, HANSON is trade-bait, and we stash JURRJENS in AAA hoping he’ll come back after an off-season of rest on that knee?
DAP
August 14th, 2012
9:31 am
jimmy If the Giants would have won last night, they’d be 1/2 game behind us in the WC standing.
no they wouldnt have. they would have been 1/2 game behind pittsburg, who is 2 games behind us.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 14th, 2012
9:33 am
richbrave—
BMac won’t be a FA this off-season!! He still has an option for 2013!!…
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
9:36 am
Not so fast, richbrave!!! BMac still has an option for 2013… good deal if he produces, “bad” if he sukks again. No reason not to use it, unless he gets hurt.
Roger
August 14th, 2012
9:37 am
High socks, low socks, it’s the Nationals’ year I’m afraid. Even if we make it into the playoffs, we’ll not win the division.
Go Braves, though.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
9:38 am
And JJ needs to be non-tendered…. he’s not worth much to us anymore.
Lew
August 14th, 2012
9:42 am
As much as he groipes about fitness, one would think keylargo goes about 295 and is trying to motivate himself. Of course, his pride is shot because all people have no pride unless they have an acceptable body mass index..
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
9:42 am
Jurrjens will be non-tendered. Just no way Wren will take that risk when Jurrjens will make around 7 million next season.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
9:42 am
BMac won’t be a FA this off-season!! He still has an option for 2013!!…
I figured McFann would jump on that. 12 million for 2013 which will be picked up a few days after the WS ends, I’d bet.
Arkansas Transplant
August 14th, 2012
9:43 am
Yeah, we need to hang onto to Uggla.. that 39 million plus over the next 3 years is sure worth it. Got to love his Oh-fers night in and night out. Greatly needed from your supposely solid RH hitter against LHP. There’s no way we could replace that .213 with anyone for a lower rate while allowing us to spend elsewhere or extending those that actually produce. Keep him Wren, Keep him!!
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
9:44 am
It’s sort of a non-issue at this point, right? Jurrjens won’t be tendered his third year arb. contract and salary that comes with it. And I doubt he re-ups with us on a minor league deal. Just my opinion there.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 14th, 2012
9:46 am
Efrim 12 million for 2013 which will be picked up a few days after the WS ends, I’d bet.
It better be…And this season of his will NOT be repeated…
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
9:46 am
McCann will be a tricky situation. The poor season he is having totally put any kind of long term deal on the back burner. Braves will pick up his option and go from there. Hopefully he bounces back next season but I truly feel like unless he gives us a huge discount he will be playing elsewhere in 2014.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
9:47 am
AT, it isn’t happening. Dan Uggla will be a member of the 2013 Braves. You’re just going ot have to accept that man.
Lew
August 14th, 2012
9:48 am
Uggla’s not going to be traded for a number of reasons – which have been discussed almost as ad nauseum as the rants to dump him. Move on and go write your list to Santa and beat the seasonal rush.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
9:49 am
but I truly feel like unless he gives us a huge discount he will be playing elsewhere in 2014.
I believe Molina got five years, 75 million. Montero got five years, 70 million. Thinking Wren and co. will offer five years, 80 million max perhaps with a club option for 2019. But I can’t see them going higher than that for Mac’s age 30-34 year old seasons.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
9:49 am
We will have a worse team on paper next season, just no way we can replace Chipper or Bourn with better or equal value. It will all come down to Heyward and Freeman taking the next step as producers and Uggla and McCann rebounding.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
9:50 am
AT: Trading Uggs and covering at least 25-30 mil of what he’s owed and then trying to fill 2 of 2B/3B/LF (depending on where Prado goes) , CF, and a top SP isn’t happening…. Uggs is staying.
richbrave
August 14th, 2012
9:51 am
I thought that might stir the pot a bit.
But I still believe McCANN needs a series off. Catching is a grinding business.
You can’t use ROSS exclusively because his weaknesses are ultimately exposed, but in a three games series whenever a LH’er is on the mound, use him in a semi-platoon with B-MAC to give him some rest.
UGGLA appears to be the type of player that needs to be fed a diet of RH pitching to get him going. So I’d sit DAN until they put a RH’er on the mound. Keep doing that until he’s stroking it again, then keep him in, and ride the hot streak.
Stop the set line-up, and force the opposing manager to react to some adversity for a change by starting more RH’ers.
That is assuming JOHNSON and others can carry the load for a few games.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
9:51 am
If an AL team is going to offer him 18 million a year over six years guaranteed, then I’m not sure what Wren is going to do. Comes a point where contracts go beyond a level of sanity. Six years, 108 million is just way too much for Mac.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
9:52 am
We will have a worse team on paper next season, just no way we can replace Chipper or Bourn with better or equal value. It will all come down to Heyward and Freeman taking the next step as producers and Uggla and McCann rebounding.
I agree with this. Well said, Va.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
9:53 am
Efrim
That is the kind of contract I thought he’d get in April, but he’s having the worst season his career, he’d really have to bounce back big in 2013 for the Braves to offer that contract.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
9:54 am
But I can’t see them going higher than that for Mac’s age 30-34 year old seasons.
4 yr deal max, possibly with an option. No deal past age 34 season. Period.
monty
August 14th, 2012
9:54 am
Have to feel for BMAC he finally got to feeling “dangerous” then his shoulder flares up, or it’s like in golf when you figure something out and you have a good few rounds and then it’s gone and you have to figure something else out. I love Brian, but he sure looked…um…..big…. last night…or ..big-ger.
Murph
August 14th, 2012
9:54 am
I guess that’s the end of Matt Diaz in Atlanta. For as much crap as I gave him this spring, he did ok this year… I feel bad for him that his time with the Braves is ending in surgery.
Looks like the offense has gone dormant again. Hope they wake up before it’s too late. Better now than in the end of September I guess.
Saw DLowe picked up a 4-inning save last night. Tommy Hanson should be paying attention as that’s the role he’s going to assume once the Braves go back to a 5-man rotation….
phil
August 14th, 2012
9:55 am
Uggla does need to go bye bye. We can’t make it happen apparently, but he’s killing us most of the time.
McCann will clearly be here next year, but his best years appear to be behind him already, as much because he won’t take care of himself as any other reason that makes sense.
Bourn strikes out too much, but he keeps himself in shape and does a fine job overall. I would rather take a chance on him for another 4-5 years than spend the money on Mac, as much as I’ve always loved the guy.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
9:58 am
.222/.280/.333/.613 line for Diaz in 2011… well below his career norms. Not really OK…
As for BMac, imo the deal I’d offer him is 4 yrs 60 mil, with a 5th year option for 10 mil.
Tommy Hanson should be paying attention
Indeed. He’s currently our weakest starter.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
9:59 am
That is the kind of contract I thought he’d get in April, but he’s having the worst season his career, he’d really have to bounce back big in 2013 for the Braves to offer that contract.
If he posts his career averages next year, Braves will offer five years, 80 million. It’s in line with the other catcher deals and I have to imagine McCann wants to stay in Atlanta. I do not see them going beyond that though, however a lot could change in a year. Depends on how Freeman and Heyward progress and where we are as an organization. There will be other factors that go into the proposal for Brian. We’re talking more than a year and that’s a really long time in baseball terms.
Lew
August 14th, 2012
10:00 am
Yeah – we can let Mac walk because we have Betancourt, right? Of course he couldn’t hit before he broke his hand…….
DAP
August 14th, 2012
10:01 am
looking at the wildcard standing can be a little confusing. but as of this morning, we are 2 games up on the pirates, 3.5 up on the dodgers and giants, 4 games up on the cardinals, and 9.5 games up on the dbacks.
Arkansas Transplant
August 14th, 2012
10:01 am
TheOnlyBravesFan, I wouldn’t pay any of it nor would I expect too much back in return. Probably nothing more than a low level prospect. I’m not saying they will move him in the offseason, just saying they should. This team can’t afford to pay the amount of money they are paying him for one guy to do nothing more than he’s doing. That money would be better spent either split between 2 positions or on a top notch starter.
richbrave
August 14th, 2012
10:01 am
Spending big on a catcher at age 30 is problematic at best.MAC could go either way, but most are pretty worn out by then.
Gambling long-term on a BOURN at that age is a better proposition to my way of thinking.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 14th, 2012
10:05 am
monty Have to feel for BMAC he finally got to feeling “dangerous” then his shoulder flares up
True that…:(
I love Brian, but he sure looked…um…..big…. last night…or ..big-ger.
It was the high socks…
richbrave
August 14th, 2012
10:05 am
I think UGGLA should see majority, but not exclusive RH’d pitching early in the season, and see what that develops. Of course, dollars on the bench and pennies in the field will bring howls of derision from many sources, and heat from the front office.
Murph
August 14th, 2012
10:05 am
Yeah – we can let Mac walk because we have Betancourt, right? Of course he couldn’t hit before he broke his hand…….
Didn’t you see the movie Rookie of the Year? Guys always come back from injury with Herculean strength and abilities they never possessed before getting hurt.
BeFANNcourt will come back and be a monster both at and behind the dish.
Murph
August 14th, 2012
10:07 am
Salty will be a free agent after next season… and he’d probably cost the Braves half of what BMac will cost.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
10:07 am
Of course he couldn’t hit before he broke his hand…….
After breaking his hand, all the demons that kept him from hitting will be gone… he’ll be a .300 hitter from here on out!
Lew
August 14th, 2012
10:08 am
Yeah – And we should never eat BBQ again and all become vegans, eating macrobiotic diets and saving as much money as we can possibly do so we can retire at age 45 in a style we’re not accustomed to.
Bout as much chance of that happening as Uggla leaving this winter.
Lew
August 14th, 2012
10:09 am
OnlyBRaves – Yes and you shuld likely put a catcher’s mitt under your pillow so the cathing fairy grants all of your wishes.
Lew
August 14th, 2012
10:10 am
catching fairy – not so sure a cathing fairy would be beneficial in the least.
monty
August 14th, 2012
10:11 am
On paper, we looked solid in our SP in spring training. We know where that went. Next season we look even stronger in our SP than this year. Hudson, Sheets, Maholm, Minor. Medlen – Delgado, Teheran,waiting in the wings, Beachy back in mid-August. I believe Hanson gets moved this winter. Make a deal for Bernadina in CF (shouldn’t cost us too much) sign a LF with enough pop to offset Chipper’s production and we have Simmons for the whole year. Brian will certainly hit better and JHEY and FF will be another year older and wiser, climbing toward stardom, with Andrelton not far behind!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
10:12 am
If BMac gets a 5/6 year deal to catch in the NL…. well, all I can say is good luck.
richbrave
August 14th, 2012
10:14 am
1B ERNESTO MEJIA [.304 BA] 2-6 last night, 1 2B [31], 2 RBI [87], 2 SO.
The big guy continues on a trajectory to break 100 RBI’s and a .300 BA. The 40 doubles, 30 HR’s is more problematic. Still too many SO’s to be a serious ML player in my estimation, but he’s putting up some fantastic numbers in AAA. Same as AA last year.
monty
August 14th, 2012
10:15 am
McFAnn- “it was the high socks”
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
10:17 am
Having a 6 man rotation means we don’t need starting pitching help this offseason. Were willing to change everyone’s routine this late in the season to keep Medlen in there even tho he can still be huge in the pen for us.
I think it’s a joke kinda, What’s the chances Medlen is viewed as a starter in 2013? Were already gonna have Hudson, Hanson, Maholm, Minor, Delgado, Teheran all looking for rotation spots, then we have Beachy coming back at some point too.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
10:19 am
Still too many SO’s to be a serious ML player in my estimation,
Juan struck out more than this when he was in the Minors; hence he isn’t all that great… I agree that both of them aren’t going to be serious starters in the Majors.
Lew
August 14th, 2012
10:19 am
I really wouldn’t count on anything much from Beachy next year. Maybe he makes a couple of starts. Maybe not even that much.
Arkansas Transplant
August 14th, 2012
10:19 am
Next season we look even stronger in our SP than this year.
This statement isn’t entirely true. Hudson a year older, Beachy may not make it back til season’s last couple of months if at all, Sheets isn’t signed past this year, Minor might be better, Delgado still struggles and Teheran has regressed.
richbrave
August 14th, 2012
10:19 am
RHSP RANDALL DELGADO [W 3-2, 4.94 ERA] got the win last night but only because of the blistering barrage of hits the G-Men put on the BATS. RANDALL went 5.0 IP, 8 H, 3 R/ER, 3 BB, 3 SO.
RHRP ANTHONY VARVARO [SV 6, 2.62 ERA] got the final out, and a save in the process.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 14th, 2012
10:21 am
monty—
Well Mom said!……
Arkansas Transplant
August 14th, 2012
10:21 am
Will Mejia be a September call up? and what’s his ability in playing outfield?
phil
August 14th, 2012
10:21 am
Heads in the sand over McCann….sigh
monty
August 14th, 2012
10:23 am
I find it a little mind numbing that anyone would NOT consider Medlen for a SP role next season, considering his performance so far this year and in 2010 when given the chance, all the team does is win when he pitches, that’s undeniable, we can argue about the why’s but you can’t argue with the results. If he “looked” more like a big league pitcher stature wise instead of a highschool freshman we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. What does that tell ya?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
10:23 am
Medlen is good enough to start, but it’d be kinda sad if Delgado and Teheran can’t work their way into the rotation. After all the hype that’s surrounded them and being told that they’re untouchable in trades for 2/3 straight years.
If Medlen is still “better” than them that we take him from the ‘pen and put him in the rotation, Gilmartin makes the rotation before them, or us needing to get an ace (like Greinke) because our hyped prospects can’t pitch yet? That’ll sukk big time.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
10:24 am
Juan Francisco is a guy that if he played everyday he would easily strikeout over 200 times but has the ability to hit 25-30 homers as well.
Here’s what he’s done for us this season.
159 PAs 252/302/469 8 HR 27 RBI 48 K 10 BB
But were only paying him 480k and next season he’ll make like 500k. So I like the value for what he does provide and that’s slugging. He’s a helluva lot better than Eric Hinske who is making 1.5 million and has produced a 590 OPS this season…
Francisco will be on the team next season I believe.
phil
August 14th, 2012
10:25 am
As I was running this morning, I had this thought about our starting pitching….
Aside from Minor, who has been average overall, and the new guy Maholm, our starters are held together with fly paper and toothpicks….they just aren’t any better than average overall.
And beyond that, we don’t even know week to week who they actually are. It’s not a great recipe for success down the stretch.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 14th, 2012
10:25 am
Whose head’s in the sand?…
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
10:25 am
What’s the chances Medlen is viewed as a starter in 2013? Were already gonna have Hudson, Hanson, Maholm, Minor, Delgado, Teheran all looking for rotation spots, then we have Beachy coming back at some point too.
I wouldn’t be pleased with that rotation, Va. Looking for another arm at the front with Hudson. If we have to part with one of the younger arms to get that upgrade, I’m for it. As you said, it’s going to be difficult to replace Bourn and Chipper, but maybe the added value can be in a frontline starter such as James Shields or Dan Haren or whomever.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
10:26 am
Next season we look even stronger in our SP than this year.
Not really… a bunch of question marks, mainly because it’s young guys. The only guy who’s coming back that looks solid is Maholm. Huddy is a year older, Hanson is injured, Minor and Delgado are young, who knows what happens with Sheets. Not really inspiring the confidence. Not 1 ace in that group.
RANDALL went 5.0 IP, 8 H, 3 R/ER, 3 BB, 3 SO.
Wasn’t fooling anyone, 8 hits… only 5IP and 3 walks… Yikes.
richbrave
August 14th, 2012
10:26 am
AT:
We’ve got two openings on the forty-man. I’m thinking both MEJIA and CUNNINGHAM are added. I’m not sure what the rules relating to adjustments with the 40-man are however. As an example, is there a dead-line approaching relating to additions or subtractions from the forty-man?
TennesseePaul
August 14th, 2012
10:27 am
This team can’t afford to pay the amount of money they are paying him for one guy to do nothing more than he’s doing
His contract isn’t blocking anything on this team. Nothing. Not even going forward.
This off-season the team can choose to spend money on a “front line starter” with the money it already has, while keeping Dan Uggla. Or, this off-season the team can choose to spend money on two players at other positions and still retain Uggla.
Dan Uggla is the only guy under contract going forward. The only one. This team has the most financial flexibility of any team in the majors and the most it has had in decades. Only 1 guy is under contract for the next 3 years. 1 guy. The team with a $95M payroll has only $13M committed. That’s $82M to spend on anything they see fit. Add in the fact that their core guys are still per-arbitration and they are in an extremely good position.
It’d be more logical if you simply stated: “I hate Dan Uggla” and then moved on.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
10:28 am
Francisco will be on the team next season I believe.
I don’t mind that too much… just as long as it’s a backup role. He can take Hinske’s role as the (heavy lol) backup 1B. Or he can backup 3B and Mejia backups 1B. Either one works.
Looking for another arm at the front with Hudson.
Greinke.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
10:28 am
Efrim
I agree about that. It just drives me nuts when we have a pitcher like Delgado in the minors still with a 6 man rotation in the bigs.
phil
August 14th, 2012
10:29 am
McFann – Not yours. You seem to be right on board with his struggles.
Then again, I’m talking about his weight and what I perceive to be his conditioning issues. I catch grief all the time, but I want to see the man end up in the hall of fame, and being overweight is gonna doom him to mediocrity as he gets older. It’s already happening.
David O'Brien
August 14th, 2012
10:29 am
I really wouldn’t count on anything much from Beachy next year. Maybe he makes a couple of starts. Maybe not even that much.
Why would you expect Beachy to make only “a couple of starts” or fewer? Pitchers typically return to their roles in 12-13 months after TJ surgery, and he had his in mid-June. Not sure why you think he couldn’t reasonably be expected to be back in the rotation at midseason. Sure, some pitchers have setbacks and it takes them an extra month or two. But plenty are back in 12 months, particularly younger pitchers (as opposed to a Tim Hudson, who, by the way, was back making rehab starts 11 months after surgery and on schedule to return to big-league rotation in 12 months before had a mild setback).
It’s impossible to say if this guy will take 11-12 months or that guy will take 13, but Beachy is probably the most obsessed guy on the team in terms of workouts and staying in shape. So if any pitcher is going to make it back in 12 months or even slightly sooner, I’d say he’s a good candidate, at his age and given his workout regimen, etc. Even if it takes him 13 months to return, that’d be late July.
TennesseePaul
August 14th, 2012
10:30 am
Beachy may not make it back til season’s last couple of months if at all
I wouldn’t even include Beachy in the rotation. He might “get back” next year, but he won’t be a factor until 2014. I like the guy and it’s a bummer, but this team has to plan like he isn’t available until 2014. Load up 2013. Plan for Beachy in 2014. By the time he’s healthy next season, whoever this team pulled in will probably be injured anyway and he can fill in at that time.
Jeff R
August 14th, 2012
10:31 am
One game, Juan. Three more to go with the Padres. We’ll see if they’re really playing that well.
Jeff R
August 14th, 2012
10:33 am
It’s not that I don’t think Beachy will pitch by mid-season, 2013, it’s how effectively does he pitch after a long layoff. How long will it take him to get his effectiveness back?
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
10:34 am
The only guy who’s coming back that looks solid is Maholm. Huddy is a year older, Hanson is injured, Minor and Delgado are young, who knows what happens with Sheets.
That’s a little much. Hudson is still really good. A year older, yes, which is why I think it’s important to add another starter that can pitch in the top half of the rotation. It’s looking like Hudson, Maholm, Minor will be locks for next year with Hanson as another possibility if they can’t find another frontline guy. Medlen, Teheran, Delgado battling for that 5th spot if they are still on the roster and the need exists.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
10:35 am
Agree DOB… I think Beachy can be back just after the ASB next year in the big-leagues. He will get at least 12 starts.
Just wonder though, who would go down when Beachy comes back? I mean, that last spot will likely be held by one of our top prospects… Getting waaay ahead of myself, I know…
monty
August 14th, 2012
10:35 am
Maybe they will, but it’s hard to see the FO giving any one starting player(even a pitcher) a 18-20 mil a year contract. 2 guys with that big a contract(Bourn+pitcher) taking up 40% of the budget that ain’t going to happen. Pitchers get hurt the easiest and are therefore the biggest risk of all players. (See JJ,TH,BB,BS,KM.) Now if Liberty gives us a bump that’s great!
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 14th, 2012
10:37 am
phil You seem to be right on board with his struggles.
It’s hard to deny a .235 AVG/.308 OBP/.434 SLG. He’s gotten robbed plenty, sure, but you can’t blame everything on that…Just hasn’t been a good year for him, but I’ve really got no reason to think he can’t bounce back next year…
And I’ll tell you—you’re not as annoying as keylargo when it comes to the weight thing…
richbrave
August 14th, 2012
10:37 am
“……Francisco will be on the team next season I believe……” VaBraveFan
As do I VA. And ditto to HINSKI ….a fading memory along with MATTY D.
JUAN FRANCISCO back up 3B
ERNESTO MEJIA back up 1B
DAVID ROSS back up C
PAUL JANISH back up SS/2B
TYLER PASTORNICKY if five bench players
REED JOHNSON takes over in LF.
MARTIN PRADO to 3B.
AL SIMMONS returns to SS.
TODD CUNNINGHAM to CF.
At least those are possibilities at this point. Have to wait for ST is complete to find out, of course.
Arkansas Transplant
August 14th, 2012
10:38 am
is there a dead-line approaching relating to additions or subtractions from the forty-man?
Yeah, I don’t know what the guidlines are.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
10:39 am
but Beachy is probably the most obsessed guy on the team in terms of workouts and staying in shape.
Can Hanson room with him?
I like the guy and it’s a bummer, but this team has to plan like he isn’t available until 2014. Load up 2013. Plan for Beachy in 2014. By the time he’s healthy next season, whoever this team pulled in will probably be injured anyway and he can fill in at that time.
Completely agree and I’m sure that’s the way Wren will go about it. Beachy in the 2nd half of 2013 would be gravy.
Lew
August 14th, 2012
10:39 am
DOB – Maybe he does come back and make a significant contribution, but you certainly can’t pencil him in for a spot in the rotation like some here believe. Yes, pitchers do come back at a year from surgery, but they also have setbacks, too.
I kind of don’t see them making rotation decisions this winter based on Beachy returning.
Jeff R
August 14th, 2012
10:40 am
I think Reed Johnson is locked up for bench support. I still think Wren looks for a front line LF.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
10:42 am
After reading more on Cunningham I think he will struggle to even be a MLB bench player.
Arkansas Transplant
August 14th, 2012
10:42 am
I think a frontline starter is a must in the offseason. We need a true 1 or high number 2.
monty
August 14th, 2012
10:43 am
Liberty Media hasn’t allowed for cost of living raises.
phil
August 14th, 2012
10:43 am
I like to kid about Mac’s weight, obviously. I’ve always been that way where weight is concerned. I just find it humorous, with anyone.
But I swear on a stack of Bibles that I don’t gripe about it to be annoying. I firmly believe it cannot possibly help him, both as a player and for his lifespan on this planet, to let himself go like that. It just bugs the dickens out of me. Same with Juan and Hinske. Juan has tried to do something about it, but look at Eric. It’s beyond ridiculous with him now, and he’s been relegated mostly to the pine now.
DiamondbackMac
August 14th, 2012
10:43 am
Lew
not so sure a cathing fairy would be beneficial in the least.
Almost laughed myself right out of my chair. I had a vision of a little winged being flying around with a catheter.
richbrave
August 14th, 2012
10:43 am
Jeff R:
O.K. by me. I wonder if REED JOHNSON sees it that way. No telling what was discussed during and after the trade relating to his role next season.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
10:43 am
2 guys with that big a contract(Bourn+pitcher) taking up 40% of the budget that ain’t going to happen
Yeah it’s not happening. Cuz Bourn won’t be back. We can still get the pitcher.
richbrave
August 14th, 2012
10:44 am
RE: CUNNINGHAM. Another SCHAFER then?
phil
August 14th, 2012
10:45 am
I’m with Lew on Beachy. I don’t count on the guy next year, but if he’s ready to roll by July or so, then all the better. Nice problem to have.
monty
August 14th, 2012
10:46 am
So, from what I’m seeing we’re getting a frontline starter “and” a frontline LF? Let’s talk numbers.
Jeff R
August 14th, 2012
10:46 am
richbrave,
Good question. Johnson’s 35, I think. His value lies in coming off the bench. I know Wren was interested in acquiring him for a while. I’m not sure Johnson has the staying power to start a 150 games.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
10:46 am
I kind of don’t see them making rotation decisions this winter based on Beachy returning.
I agree. And Wren will say the same thing, I hope. Plus, staffs always have injury or poor performance so he’ll most likely slide in for a rotation member at the time.
richbrave
August 14th, 2012
10:47 am
“…….It’s beyond ridiculous with him [HINSKI] now, and he’s been relegated mostly to the pine now……” phil
Maybe HE doesn’t think he’ll be back either.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
10:47 am
I think a frontline starter is a must in the offseason. We need a true 1 or high number 2.
Indeed. We currently don’t have a #1, and only have a declining #2 (Hudson). Can’t go into next year with an aging #2 and a bunch of #3/4 pitchers.
I kind of don’t see them making rotation decisions this winter based on Beachy returning.
Even more reason we need Greinke or someone similiar. We need an ace. Beachy was ours until he got hurt.
Lew
August 14th, 2012
10:48 am
It ls like Reed Johnson is a Free Agent after this season. Be nice to see them lock him up for next year though – Ross, too.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
10:48 am
Adam Wainwright made a 12 or 13 month comeback, I believe. Without any setbacks, except for the fact that he wasn’t good early on.
Jeff R
August 14th, 2012
10:49 am
So, from what I’m seeing we’re getting a frontline starter “and” a frontline LF? Let’s talk numbers.
Good question. Depends on what “front line” is these days. Are we talking Josh Hamilton as the benchmark? If so, not so. Signing Greinke to a big deal and then adding pricey outfield help? Not likely.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
10:50 am
he’ll (Beachy) most likely slide in for a rotation member at the time.
Probably Teheran/Delgado…. that’ll hurt. Or we can go with a 6-man!
I’m wondering if Wren feels more willing to trade one of those 2… we already have a “surplus” of young, struggling pitching. And many more in AA and AAA. It wouldn’t be a complete loss to trade one of Teheran/Delgado.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
10:50 am
Indeed. We currently don’t have a #1, and only have a declining #2 (Hudson). Can’t go into next year with an aging #2 and a bunch of #3/4 pitchers.
Exactly. Just makes sense to focus on adding a frontline guy this winter. Just delaying the inevitable – team needs a frontline starter and with Maholm and Hudson on the last years of their contract in 2013 – it makes that much more sense to find a pitcher.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
10:50 am
I think there is a high chance that we could end up with a platoon somewhere. Atlanta value’s starting pitching more than anything and we could use a top of the rotation arm considering all of our current options are considered backend guys.
richbrave
August 14th, 2012
10:50 am
Jeff R:
That’s right. If I were in his shoes and 35, I’d be saying. “it’s now or never for me to be a regular.”
Lew
August 14th, 2012
10:51 am
Efrim – Yeah, I sincerely hope Beachy IS ready to go at mid season as he’d be a great boost to the rotation, but I’d plan as if he was going to be out all year and then anything he provides is just icing on the cake. You can always use good pitching – especially the second half of the season when pitchers are dinged and dented.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
10:51 am
I’m wondering if Wren feels more willing to trade one of those 2… we already have a “surplus” of young, struggling pitching.
If Dempster agrees to the deal, Delgado is already gone.
I think Wren will be forced to trade one of the two if he wants an impact player in one of the three positions of need(CF, LF, SP).
phil
August 14th, 2012
10:55 am
Hinske may be planning to hang em up, but he owed it to the team to keep his fat backside in shape so that he could contribute something other than outs this year. I love the guy, but his usefulness appears to be at an end unfortunately.
Jeff R
August 14th, 2012
10:56 am
richbrave,
Or Johnson wrangles a really nice 2-year deal coming off the bench? I’m not sure there’s a strong market for a 35 year-old bench guy wanting to transition to a starting role.
Lew
August 14th, 2012
10:57 am
VaBraves – I could see them getting a RH hitting Lfer and mving Prado back and forth between LF and 3B and platooning at third with Francisco and in LF with whoever they get..
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
10:58 am
Reed Johnson and David Ross need to be resigned.
Jeff R
August 14th, 2012
10:59 am
Speaking of Dempster, he was crushed again last night by the Yankees.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
10:59 am
Ross, Janish, Pastornicky, Francisco, Johnson would be a good bench for next season.
TennesseePaul
August 14th, 2012
11:00 am
except for the fact that he wasn’t good early on.
It’s the case with most pitchers, even when young. When they first come back, they aren’t as good as they were. Some regain all their mojo and carry on. But just because he’s healthy enough to pitch doesn’t mean he’s going to be dominate right away.
Some notable pitchers who came back fairly “early” and what they did in their first 10 starts (7 for Zimmerman, the season ended before he got 10 starts)
_________________age_W-L__ERA_IP/GS
AJ Burnett....... 27 1-5 4.53 005.2
Erik Bedard...... 25 1-2 4.60 004.2
Edinson Volquez.. 26 3-3 4.99 004.2
Jordan Zimmerman* 24 1-2 4.94 004.1
Adam Wainwright.. 30 4-5 4.45 005.2
Jeff R
August 14th, 2012
11:01 am
Lew, I’m sure Prado wants to stay put in one position or the other (preferably third). I think he’d like to re-establish himself in the infield, and I think that’s where he has greater value to the club. But Wren may have other thoughts, of course.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
11:02 am
Speaking of Dempster, he was crushed again last night by the Yankees.
And I’m loving every bit of it.
Ross, Janish, Pastornicky, Francisco, Johnson would be a good bench for next season.
It would be… however, some would say that another LH bat is needed, even though our lineup is predominantly LH.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
11:03 am
When they first come back, they aren’t as good as they were. Some regain all their mojo and carry on. But just because he’s healthy enough to pitch doesn’t mean he’s going to be dominate right away.
Exactly. Which, as we have all been saying, means Wren shouldn’t count on Beachy for 2013.
DS1
August 14th, 2012
11:09 am
Heyward, David Wright, FF, Uggla, Mac
A modern day murderers row!
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
11:10 am
Heyward, David Wright, FF, Uggla, Mac
Hah! I can’t imagine Sandy Alderson not re-signing Wright. He is the Mets right now. There is nothing else to get excited about position player wise. Wright, the starting rotation and a sprinkle of Ruben Tejada and Ike Davis.
raleighbravefan
August 14th, 2012
11:12 am
My (optimistic, as usual) opinion:
Hudson – Comes back strong after bone spur cleanout – pretty solid #1
Maholm – good #2
Hanson – Who knows?…good mid to lower rotation guy, OR continues to gain strength in shoulder and learn to adjust style, OR coould be traded or disabled.
Minor – Continues to learn and develope – solid #3
Delgado – Continues to develop – Good #4/5, maybe #3, OR traded
Teheran – Developes into #1 we hope…or doesn’t…or is traded.
Sheets – May fade, may or may not be re-signed for another year.
Medlen – Continues to be valuable as starter or in BP.
Beachy – Back around mid-year…effectiveness unknown.
I also believe Wren will make at least 1 significant acquisition, which could be an ace/#1 starter.
May be an outfielder (Bourn or otherwise) or possibly 3B.
jeffrey d
August 14th, 2012
11:13 am
Maholm – good #2
hee hee
raleighbravefan
August 14th, 2012
11:14 am
Dempster and Greinke have both been pretty ugly with new teams…just saying…
raleighbravefan
August 14th, 2012
11:16 am
jeffrey d – Maybe a bit optimistic on projection of Maholm by me…Hopefully we pick up a true ace/#1, making Maholm our #3 at best.
richbrave
August 14th, 2012
11:16 am
Jeff R;
REED would be better as MATTY D’s replacement. I just don’t know if he’ll go for it. He should be resigned though. We need him.
richbrave
August 14th, 2012
11:19 am
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
11:03 am
When they first come back, they aren’t as good as they were. Some regain all their mojo and carry on. But just because he’s healthy enough to pitch doesn’t mean he’s going to be dominate right away.
Exactly. Which, as we have all been saying, means Wren shouldn’t count on Beachy for 2013.
Like MEDLEN this season, I don’t think BEACHY is fully himself until the 2014 season. However, he can be effective in the second half of 2013.
Capt.Mudd
August 14th, 2012
11:19 am
Exactly richbrave we need good benchpeople
Jeff R
August 14th, 2012
11:19 am
richbrave,
I think Wren really wants to keep Johnson. I’m sure he’ll make a serious play to keep him.
DAP
August 14th, 2012
11:20 am
juan fransisco is trade bait.
Jeff R
August 14th, 2012
11:22 am
Dempster and Greinke have both been pretty ugly with new teams…just saying…
I’d rather not see either in a Braves’ uniform next season. Dempster, because he’s not as good as this season’s numbers (until recently). And Greinke because I still think that his price tag will be far over his value.
Capt.Mudd
August 14th, 2012
11:23 am
As per the list above……re: Raleighbrave…….could one infer you are suggesting Mr. Hanson could or should be dealt?
George
August 14th, 2012
11:24 am
Good morning all
SD is a no good team, the kind of team we need to beat, not need to beat must beat. MINOR has been so good lately, WHAT HAPPENED? FREDI just doesn’t get it, we are running out of games to catch the NATS. To bad you can’t fire a guy who is 66-49. FREDI will lose the play-in game. We need to win division.
Jeff R
August 14th, 2012
11:25 am
George, please. You’re giving me a headache.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
11:25 am
Hudson – Comes back strong after bone spur cleanout – pretty solid #1
Maholm – good #2
Hah! Huddy is a #2 right now… and aging. Maholm is pitching like a #2 right now, but I think he’s more of a #3/4.
Teheran – Developes into #1 we hope…or doesn’t…or is traded.
Don’t think he’s traded. To do so would be admitting that he was overhyped.
juan fransisco is trade bait.
Don’t think he’s that valuable… though I wouldn’t mind him being traded.
Capt.Mudd
August 14th, 2012
11:27 am
Dare I mention Derek Lowe’s relief work for NYY last night? Four scoreless and one year ago…..lol
Lew
August 14th, 2012
11:29 am
JeffR — You think Prado wants that based on what? Have you heard Martin say he wanted tyo only play infield (or third base)? Have you ever seen him refuse to move somewhere else when needed?
Nope, you see Martin doing everything he can to help the team and if that means learning a new position, he’s not only been willing, but puts in the time to become pretty damned good whereever he plays .
If they decide that’s the best move for him, what you’ll see is Marttin with two gloves in his locker and doing one hell of a good job at both positions.
Jeff R
August 14th, 2012
11:31 am
Lew,
It was reported a while ago that Prado said he wanted to return to the infield at some point. I think Prado is a gamer and will play wherever. But I think he wants to return to the infield, if possible.
Capt.Mudd
August 14th, 2012
11:32 am
As you have testified Lew…..Martin, by all accounts is the consumate pro.
Juan
August 14th, 2012
11:32 am
Jekyll and Hyde Offense is the problem for this team snce April…here the definition:
tale of a Baseball Players who takes a potion which turns him from a mild-mannered hitter to a Baseball Players into a homicidal maniac Hitter.
Lew
August 14th, 2012
11:33 am
JeffR – And platooning at third would put him in the infield – at least when LHP starts the game.
I think many here need to realize that Martin’s versatiltiy os an asset and an assett that the Braves will continue to exploit when they need to. Martin is never going to play one position and one position only. Bank on it.
Jeff R
August 14th, 2012
11:34 am
Lew, you may be right.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
11:36 am
What sucks about our lineup going forward is life without Chipper. Our best 3 hitters are all left handed. Uggla needs to earn his paycheck going forward and do what was expected. Next season it looks like we’ll have Heyward, Freeman, and McCann all bunched up. Unless we add another RH middle of the order bat who actually produces to break them up.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
11:42 am
It’s pretty sad that Uggla doesn’t even have a 400. SLG%
phil
August 14th, 2012
11:44 am
At the present rate, Francisco will be number three on that list of the three best left handed hitters….Mac can be 4th.
and this assumes they’re not facing a worn out, retread lefthander who will dominate us with ease most nights…..
MFin04
August 14th, 2012
11:45 am
Not looking good for Braves fans after last night, still struggling against lefties and on Mondays. It does make you wonder why in the world you would trade for Reed Johnson? I mean no point in getting a guy to hit lefties…if you don’t play him against lefties. Someone in the lineup has got to suck against lefties where you can plug RJ into the lineup, right?
Lew
August 14th, 2012
11:45 am
JeffR – What it does is to give Frank Wren options – always a good thing. Makes it possible for him to add any number of pieces depending on who is available in whatever deal he can best make.
DAP
August 14th, 2012
11:46 am
“jekyll and hyde offense” can describe every major league baseball team, except maybe the ones who always suck.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
11:46 am
Dan Uggla makes Alfonso Soriano look like a beast. ONly reason Soriano is considered horrible and so on is cause of his salary, but hey he’s 36 years making 18 million a year but atleast he’s slugging 490 and hitting over 260 with 20+ homers right now.
phil
August 14th, 2012
11:46 am
Uggla, much like a Francoueur, won’t make adjustments because of a pea-sized brain….
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
11:48 am
I defended Uggla for most of the season but gave up on that about a month ago. His solid OBP isn’t enough to try and defend him anymore.
MFin04
August 14th, 2012
11:48 am
Gotta win the next 3 to keep this thing close. And for the love play Reed Johnson. Heck play Matt Diaz too, can’t do any worse than last nights performance.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
11:50 am
Next season it looks like we’ll have Heyward, Freeman, and McCann all bunched up. Unless we add another RH middle of the order bat who actually produces to break them up.
I think the plan will be to add another RH hitter with power. We’ll see what happens.
It does make you wonder why in the world you would trade for Reed Johnson?
He should get a start tonight, and it should be for Heyward and not Chipper Jones. Chipper can rest tomorrow night vs. Volquez with Francisco playing 3rd base. We need Chipper in the lineup vs. LHP.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
11:53 am
Actually Soriano has more homers than any Brave right now, and only Freeman has more RBIs and Chipper has a higher Slugging. Pretty surprising that the Cubs still can’t trade this guy even when there willing to eat over 90% of the money.
It would be safe to say that the Braves would have a handful more wins if Prado was at 2nd base and Soriano was in LF. If you would have told me this beore the season I would have said your on drugs. It still sounds silly but the stats don’t lie.
Juan
August 14th, 2012
11:54 am
LeftyRighty offense is not the Problem….Look at that game saturday agains the Mets & Santana…in two inning we score 9 run and then Nada, zipp the next 7 inning agains Righty….wow
Capt.Mudd
August 14th, 2012
11:55 am
It’s OK George…..most of what you said above is just a common refrain and, even “tipping the hat,” in the opponents favor has lost much….if not all its lustre. It’s just about winning games now and I am sure this is what the Braves ‘Brain Trust’ endeavors along with all the other sane protocols necessary…..rock on George, just use earplugs on occasion.
Lew
August 14th, 2012
11:58 am
Soriano is also hitting in Wrigley Field with 36 games (about 20% of their games) against such stalwart as the Stros and the Brewers. And as to his “resurgent” season? Bout time. Only took him several years and tens of millions of lost dollars to get to that point.
raleighbravefan
August 14th, 2012
11:59 am
Capt.Mudd – Hanson COULD be traded, although I feel it is less than 50% chance this off season. Should he be? Not sure. Pretty good arguments both ways. I’ll be satisfied with whatever Wren decides, as he has much more real information than I do.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
12:00 pm
Lew
I know, I’m half kidding. I was just kinda amazed at the numbers Soriano has produced when I looked.
Lew
August 14th, 2012
12:02 pm
Actually, Soriano (aside from salary in Chicago) really hasn’t been all that bad offensively. Not nearly as many HR as prior to Wrigley, but he’s had fairly solid offensive numbers. He probably takes a lot of shots because fo the Cubs continued futility and his outrageous contract.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
12:05 pm
Does anyone feel like Hanson is following the path of Jurrjens? Cause it would seem like we might try and trade him this offseason. While the Braves probably view him as a top of rotation guy still and him being young our price will be high. We will say no to all offers and then watch Hanson get worse in 2013 leading to possibly becoming a non tender guy after the season.
Hanson is looking at a estimated salary around 3 million in 2013 and then another salary jump in 2014 with his track record from earlier year likely to be around 5-6 million.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
12:09 pm
Let Sheets walk, non-tender Jurrjens, and trade Hanson. Hanson at this point just seems like a ticking time bomb.
Then we have Hudson, Maholm, Minor, Delgado, Melden, Teheran. But we can go after a top of the rotation pitcher in the offseason which most consider a need. Hanson still could land us a decent package, 2-3 solid prospects to help trade for a #1/2 pitcher.
Capt.Mudd
August 14th, 2012
12:14 pm
Man….what a thought….If things work out ideally tomorrow’s Powerball drawing……that is, my ticket contains ‘em all…..yeah, “The Kahuna,” I shall purchase Sorianos’ complete set of home ‘hitting’ videos for Uggs. Later!
Veer
August 14th, 2012
12:15 pm
Today will be a key start of Hudson. It will give us an indication as to where he is. We will know today if the guy is really finished or not
Capt.Mudd
August 14th, 2012
12:17 pm
@raleighbravefan…..thanks for your reply….agree
Veer
August 14th, 2012
12:18 pm
Some her pointed out that Beachy is the hardest working out person in the ballclub well I have to disagree and say that Dan Uggla is the hardest working out guy we have on our club. Beachy’s thighs even can’t match Uggla’s Biceps thats how dedicated of a worker Uggla is.
Jimmy
August 14th, 2012
12:20 pm
Efrim – Yeah I was looking at the Wild Card standings wrong. You were right. Thanks for pointing that out.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
12:20 pm
I might have missed this earlier, but with DLowe being signed by the Yanks, are we still paying the pro-rated portion of his salary til years end? Or do we get to keep it?
2-3 solid prospects to help trade for a #1/2 pitcher.
Don’t need to trade for our #1/2… just sign him from FA. Zack Greinke.
DAM
August 14th, 2012
12:22 pm
If Sheets is healthy and pitching well, I’d sign him to an incentives-laden deal. He’s dominant when he’s healthy.
Lew
August 14th, 2012
12:22 pm
veer with yet more cutting edge observations.
keylargo
August 14th, 2012
12:28 pm
It’s hard to deny a .235 AVG/.308 OBP/.434 SLG. He’s gotten robbed plenty, sure, but you can’t blame everything on that…Just hasn’t been a good year for him, but I’ve really got no reason to think he can’t bounce back next year…
And I’ll tell you—you’re not as annoying as keylargo when it comes to the weight thing… McFann
Let’s see, I so tough on McCann because he has declined every year since 2008. If you really wanted to be tough on him you could say he had his best year in 2006 and everything since has been in declinel
And you agree he has been horrible this year and all he needs to do is to get his numbers back up to his career averages, which have declined every year since 2008.
So, as of today all big mac needs to do in the remaining 47 games is:
pick up 46 points on his Batting Average
pick up 45 points on his OBP
pick up 47 points on his sLG
Pick up 92 points on his OPS
And he’ll be back up to his career AVERAGE, not career highs.
And for the record I’ve never said he needs to lose weight. He needs to lose body fat. I could care less if he weighs 240 as long as it is not 25% fat.
Waffle House or Bust
August 14th, 2012
12:30 pm
This is why I don’t get too excited for the Braves. How do you lose to the Padres in August? Hope everyone is ready for another Atlanta Braves fall of failure.
Lew
August 14th, 2012
12:33 pm
keylargo – and I’m certain that neither Mac nor anyone else cares what you think of BMI. You’ve approached (and threaten to exceed) Robertian levels with your obsession on Mac’s conditioning.
I seriously dounbt that you could even vaguely cope with the rigors Mac deals with daily no matter what your BMI..
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 14th, 2012
12:37 pm
I could care less if he weighs 240 as long as it is not 25% fat.
Couldn’t care less…
raleighbravefan
August 14th, 2012
12:41 pm
Veer – (are you and lower case veer the same person. If so, are you schitzophrenic…or maybe bipolar? just wondering)….RE Huddy…Option #3…Maybe the bone spurs, which he will get corrected this winter, are bothering the dickens out of him…HUM
TennesseePaul
August 14th, 2012
12:41 pm
This is the kind of range Freeman needs…
“[Former Cincinnati scout Tyler] Jennings’ most enduring memory came during a state playoff game, when [Billy] Hamilton raced across the diamond from his shortstop position and made a diving catch on the foul side of the right-field line. The ball was located about midway between the first-base bag and the foul pole.”
–Jerry Crasnick
Arkansas Transplant
August 14th, 2012
12:42 pm
This off season moves…
Let JJ walk
Sign Greinke
Trade Hanson, Gilmartin and Salcedo for Justin Upton.
Move Prado to 3rd
Rotation before Beachy return would be;
Greinke, Hudson, Malhom, Minor and Delgado/Medlen/Teheran
And after return;
Greinke, Beachy, Hudson, Malhom and Minor/Medlen/Delgado/Teheran
Sign or trade for a CF.
Lew
August 14th, 2012
12:42 pm
This obsession with weight in this society is starting to get out of hand. Pretty soon, if it continues in this direction, they will use BMI and weight to decide if you should live, die or get medical help. Just like the lines in a Coheed and Cambria song – “Line em up against the wall – they are of no use to you and it’s time for the curing”.
Brave New World my fat ass. It’s getting scary out there.
UKUGA
August 14th, 2012
12:43 pm
So, who are we mad at today?
Arkansas Transplant
August 14th, 2012
12:43 pm
Maybe replace Myers’ name in place of Upton..
brian
August 14th, 2012
12:47 pm
I still do not think you can call Teheran overhyped at this point. Has he had a big setback this year and a disappointing season? YES. The hype though comes from his ceiling and what he did at AAA last year at such a young age. He is in a funk and will greet the offseason with relief. Some time o clear his head and then he needs to work with a Braves pitching instructor to nail down his mechanics making the subtle adjustments to hide the ball better, get better movement and control of his fastball, etc. Next year will be a huge year one way or the other for Teheran.
Murph
August 14th, 2012
12:48 pm
So, who are we mad at today?
Seems to be mainly an anti-Uggla kind of Tuesday thus far, with a sprinkling of BMac-hatred mixed in.
Lew
August 14th, 2012
12:49 pm
Yes, replace Upton with Myers – Santa doesn’t mind you changing your wish list – especially this early in the season.
brian
August 14th, 2012
12:51 pm
Cunningham will not be the BRaves starting CF next spring unless everything else falls through
Juan
August 14th, 2012
12:51 pm
LOL… Lew….good one
brian
August 14th, 2012
12:53 pm
Braves will acquire an ace or a #1 pitcher at the least in the offseason
Arkansas Transplant
August 14th, 2012
12:55 pm
preferably through FA.
George
August 14th, 2012
12:56 pm
Should we start a pool as to when DOB will work again?
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
12:56 pm
I like our chances at adding a top pitcher threw trade, signing Zack Grienke would be like signing Michael Bourn, very unlikely.
Doesn’t matter how much Zack likes Atlanta, money talks. I’m willing to bet our top offer will easily be outbid by a team with deeper pockets. If the Brewers have already offered a contract over 100 million with a 20+ mil yearly salary imagine what the richer teams might offer. Were a dark horse at best in this situation.
raleighbravefan
August 14th, 2012
12:56 pm
Waffle – You may or may not know a lot about football…Baseball, not so much.
Arkansas Transplant
August 14th, 2012
1:00 pm
Were a dark horse at best in this situation.
I’ll take that over no involvement what so ever.. which has been the case way too often the last few years.
raleighbravefan
August 14th, 2012
1:02 pm
I’m not in love with Greinke…I’m just not. Minority opinion, I’m sure.
Venice Jim
August 14th, 2012
1:03 pm
Ooh, ooh…
Breaking News @BreakingNews
Ron Palillo, who played Horshack on ‘Welcome Back, Kotter,’ dies at 63, friends say
Tomahawkin
August 14th, 2012
1:03 pm
VaBravesFan
“We will have a worse team on paper next season”
You can’t make that statement with 8 months left til Next April…No telling what will happen in the offseason….
George
August 14th, 2012
1:04 pm
Waffle House or Bust
August 14th, 2012
12:30 pm
This is why I don’t get too excited for the Braves. How do you lose to the Padres in August?
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This a good question. We should have beaten this team easely it should have been a sweep. You gotta beat the bad teams.
George
August 14th, 2012
1:04 pm
Waffle House or Bust
August 14th, 2012
12:30 pm
This is why I don’t get too excited for the Braves. How do you lose to the Padres in August?
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This a good question. We should have beaten this team easely it should have been a sweep. You gotta beat the bad teams.
DAM
August 14th, 2012
1:04 pm
raleigh — I would also prefer not to spend a ton of money on Greinke.
brian
August 14th, 2012
1:04 pm
I agree with the thinking that the pitcher will be acquired through a trade. LF will likely be a platoon of Reed Johnson and Francisco. CF will be more difficult to address – either through a trade such as Bourjos or Span, etc. or a free agent such as Victorino. I do not see the Braves going for the often injury Ellsbury for 1 year then watching him walk in free agency.
I still would love to see the Braves acquire Jon Lester to head up our rotation – a 1/2 of Lester and a healthy Beachy would be incredible next September. Minor and Maholm 3/5 or 5/3 then we have Hudson, Hanson, Teheran, Delgado, and Medlin to fill the 4th spot – whoever is not traded
George
August 14th, 2012
1:04 pm
sorry double post
Veer
August 14th, 2012
1:04 pm
Can’t belive we lost to the lowely Padres. The 7 game set over the 2 week period i thought was like gold mine where we would go 6-1. Division is probably out of the question now. If we can’t take care of San Diego then the Dodgers/Giants/Nationals stretch might kill us
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
1:08 pm
Regardless of how well Sheets I wouldn’t be a fan of resigning him. Of course I wouldn’t mind if it was a incentive based contract with very little gaurenteed, so I’m sure another team will risk more. Also don;t we have enough starters?
We are pretty dead set on adding a top of the rotation pitcher still, and Hanson looks to be trade bait. If we were to keep Sheets we’d have these options still.
Hudson, Maholm, Sheets, Hanson, Minor, Delgado, Medlen, Teheran
We’ll try and trade Hanson for prospects and then maybe flip those prospects plus Delgado for someone like James Shields. That’s just an example, but something like that could happen. I think Maholm’s option is a no-brainer at 6.5 million unless they need that money for a different move. Regardless we still have alot of depth going forward even if most of our options are young and considered backend rotation guys.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 14th, 2012
1:09 pm
Lew Pretty soon, if it continues in this direction, they will use BMI and weight to decide if you should live, die or get medical help.
Ain’t that the truth…
Murph Seems to be mainly an anti-Uggla kind of Tuesday thus far, with a sprinkling of BMac-hatred mixed in.
So, basically just a typical day…
DAP
August 14th, 2012
1:10 pm
ralieghbravefan I’m not in love with Greinke…I’m just not. Minority opinion, I’m sure
maybe, maybe not. im with you. actually, im not interested in trying to sign any ace pitcher, period. its fine to try and trade for a top of the rotation arm, but dont waste free agent money on an ace. teams like the braves dont sign aces, they make them. we need to focus on making an ace, making star position players, and use free agency to compliment.
Tomahawkin
August 14th, 2012
1:11 pm
Veer
“Can’t belive we lost to the lowely Padres. The 7 game set over the 2 week period i thought was like gold mine where we would go 6-1. Division is probably out of the question now. If we can’t take care of San Diego then the Dodgers/Giants/Nationals stretch might kill us”
We Are Not Catching The Curley W’s…Only way that happens is if we lose 1 game to them in our head to head matchups the rest of the way, and we all know that since 2009, The Nats have owned us in August and September games…
Get ready for that loss in that stupid 1 game WC elimination
And The Padres almost took the Pirates to the Woodshed, they are not as bad as they look and cant be overlooked
Tomahawkin
August 14th, 2012
1:13 pm
Something needs to be Sacrificed to get Struggla going again! For real this time…Maybe a whole chicken bucket from KFC?
Where are all the People at who were Ooohhhhing and Awwwwing over Struggla’s Monster S. Training hitting Homers against AA pitchers, thinking it would last the whole season???
kenhotlanta
August 14th, 2012
1:14 pm
Speaking of Horshack, whatever happened to Gabe Kaplan? He kinda disappeared after Kotter ended.
Arkansas Transplant
August 14th, 2012
1:14 pm
but dont waste free agent money on an ace.
That money will be spent and I hardly see it being a waste if you sign an ace and still are able to hang onto your top prospects. I mean, if you sign an ace, odds are, he’ll retain his worth for the entire length of his contract. As far as making an ace, I doubt we’ll be able to accomplish that by next season, and as far as trading for one.. well then making one is even going to be harder given the fact you just traded a future one to acquire a present one.
Tomahawkin
August 14th, 2012
1:17 pm
@Veer
This Series against the Friars is a Trap series, hopefully we do no worse than a split or all hell is gonna break loose, and Expect The Curley W’s To Beat the Crap out of the Giants…They won’t stop! I don’t know why people are still thinking that they are gonna sputter
Their offense can be Nasty and They have a 1st time “Natitude!” in other words we are trying to catch a team that is like the 1994 Expos, R.I.P. to that team due to the strike
jeffrey d
August 14th, 2012
1:18 pm
I thought this was a statement series
Arkansas Transplant
August 14th, 2012
1:18 pm
And what happens when you trade for this ace and he goes all “Uggla” on you and now your left with limited resources to improve? or for that matter, limited depth?
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
1:18 pm
Tomahawkin
Come on man, Do you really think we’ll be able to replace Chipper and Bourn will equal or better value? Now I said “on paper”. We could be a better team next season. Who know’s? Heyward and Freeman could take the next big step and McCann and Uggla could rebound to what’s expected.
Chipper’s impact alone will be a huge change for this whole organization. This offseason will be huge for Wren and the Braves. Alot of the decisions he makes this offseason will impact the team for years to come.
The only guy with a real contract is Dan Uggla, everyone else is in the ARB stages or has options. We have roughly 45 million coming off the books before ARB raises. We’ll have enough money to sign any free agent out there, but it’s up to Wren to decide on how to use it and where to improve the club. Should we spend big on 1 player and go cheap everywhere else? Should we use the money to lock up current guys and trade prospects to fill holes? Should we go after a few middle tier free agents to fill holes? This offseason will be huge.
Arkansas Transplant
August 14th, 2012
1:19 pm
Cause fact is.. your not going to trade one for one.. your going to have to give up a package for one.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
1:21 pm
Cause fact is.. your not going to trade one for one.. your going to have to give up a package for one.
This… I’d rather go out and get Greinke and keep my Teheran, Delgado, Minor, Gilmartin, Graham, etc… than go trade at least 2 of those, maybe even 3 and get an ace for 2/3 years.
At least in the former, I’m spending money that I have available, and I still my top prospects who could turn into an ace.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
1:23 pm
Should we start a pool as to when DOB will work again?
No… I think we should start a pool as to when you’ll post something logical.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
1:24 pm
Braves will acquire an ace or a #1 pitcher at the least in the offseason
Dear Santa and Lord, please let it be Greinke. That’ll be blessing and present enough for me.
Arkansas Transplant
August 14th, 2012
1:24 pm
Bingo!!
DAP
August 14th, 2012
1:27 pm
arkansas transplant That money will be spent and I hardly see it being a waste if you sign an ace and still are able to hang onto your top prospects.
free agency = overpay. this is especially true when its the top tier free agents, who are usually already on the down slope of their careers. you pay them for what they did, not what theyll do.
Shaun
August 14th, 2012
1:27 pm
Actually Soriano has more homers than any Brave right now, and only Freeman has more RBIs and Chipper has a higher Slugging. Pretty surprising that the Cubs still can’t trade this guy even when there willing to eat over 90% of the money.
Soriano leads the Cubs in plate appearances by a pretty wide margin and is about the only middle-of-the-order option for them that plays pretty much everyday. Those are the major reasons why he has as many RBI’s as he has. It is true his slugging is solid but that’s about the only thing he does well, either offensively or defensively.
It would be safe to say that the Braves would have a handful more wins if Prado was at 2nd base and Soriano was in LF. If you would have told me this beore the season I would have said your on drugs. It still sounds silly but the stats don’t lie.
I don’t know that it’s safe to say that. According to Baseball Reference, Uggla is a 1.9 WAR player while Soriano is a 1.4 WAR player. Fangraphs is more favorable to Soriano but it’s not by all that much. They have Soriano at 3.1 WAR and Uggla at 2.3, not even a full win separates them.
Uggla, for all his struggles, has hit .213/.345/.366 on the season. Soriano has hit .263/.318/.490.
There is no indication the Braves would have a handful more wins with Soriano instead of Uggla. At best it would be less than a win but there’s some indication there would be no difference and, in fact, having Uggla is more favorable to the Braves.
Prado has been a 3.5 WAR player, per Baseball Reference, and I don’t think he would have gained any defensive value had he played secondbase all season. He’s had a good defensive season in left, according to all the information we have about his defense, and secondbase is not a super strong defensive position for him. So I don’t think Prado’s value changes all that much by moving to second. It comes down to Uggla versus Soriano and I just don’t see any indication that Soriano’s been a handful of wins better.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
1:28 pm
Let me put it this way, If the Braves sign Zack Grienke we won’t have any money left for anything else. We couldn’t even trade prospects for help either. Its about payroll. Signing Grienke would likely mean the Braves not picking up Hudson’s option if they still plan on adding position player help.
Signing Grienke would mean filling LF/CF with in house options or very cheap free agents.
BF54
August 14th, 2012
1:31 pm
Gabe Kaplan plays alot of poker KHL
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
1:32 pm
VaBravesFan: Contradicting yourself???
at 1:18 The only guy with a real contract is Dan Uggla, everyone else is in the ARB stages or has options. We have roughly 45 million coming off the books before ARB raises. We’ll have enough money to sign any free agent out there
at 1:28 Let me put it this way, If the Braves sign Zack Grienke we won’t have any money left for anything else.
I’m confused. From what I’ve read, if we bring back the majority of our players (the good ones) after ARB raises and such, we should have about 25-35 mil to spend. We need to fill SP, 3B or LF, and CF. The bench will also need some improving. If we give Greinke 18-20 mil, use Francisco as some here want to, we only need to fill CF. 5-15 mil should cover that.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
1:33 pm
Shaun
I was half kidding man. Im not gonna get into a crazy debate involving all the WAR stats and so on. Just frustrated with Uggla after defending the guy most of the season. When we signed him I figured we were getting a RH bat that would play 155+ games and smack 30+ homers. Now he’s playing just as much but isn’t even slugging 400…
Arkansas Transplant
August 14th, 2012
1:33 pm
LF/CF with in house options or very cheap free agents.
This will probably happen anyways
If the Braves sign Zack Grienke we won’t have any money left for anything else.
Don’t exactly know why this would be true.
Fols
August 14th, 2012
1:35 pm
Baseball is so ballsy adding a one game expansion to the playoffs…..jesus that is going to be one big over-hyped game that will only prove one thing. It delays the real playoffs from starting and doesn’t in fact add anymore teams than previous years.
Worst decision ever.
The answer was so easy. Baseball is built around the 3 game series. They need to suck it up, add more teams and have a big old best of 3 series playoff format. A lot of teams are built for that, it would create excitement, it would add a ton of elimination games which is what people really get worked up for. More teams, more rounds, more chances, kinda like every other sport.
Baseball’s ‘different’ approach by having this many regular season games and that few playoff teams was unique, now it’s just old school. For most of these teams, half the season is meaningless.
Nothing will be lamer than the feeling of making the playoffs for one game. That loser is almost a bigger loser than the Astros are cause they had hope for nothing! lol
kenhotlanta
August 14th, 2012
1:38 pm
Wasn’t Dentz supposedly a poker player? Facebook has a game now where you can bet real money…scary. Georgia just recently started selling lottery tickets online, but I don’t see anything wrong with that.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
1:38 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
I mean we have enough money to sign any (1) free agent out there. Grienke is gonna cost 20 or more million a season. He already rejected a Brewer offer of 5 years 100+ million.
I think roughly we’ll have around 30 million to spend.
Main Needs Top Starter/Left Fielder or 3rd baseman/Centerfielder
I expect the Braves to try and resign David Ross and Reed Johnson for the bench to go along with Pastornicky, Janish, and Francisco.
DAP
August 14th, 2012
1:39 pm
AT And what happens when you trade for this ace and he goes all “Uggla” on you
i didnt say trade for an ace, i said trade for a top of the rotation starter. and what you do if he “goes uggla” on you, is you dont resign him when he becomes a free agent, because you probably traded for a guy thats only under contract for a year or two.
space monkey
August 14th, 2012
1:42 pm
You people are kidding yourself if you think Gilmartin is an ace. 5th starter at best.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
1:44 pm
Trade for someone like James Shields. He’s fits our payroll and is controllable for 2 more seasons. Both years are options so it’s not a financial risk if he were suffer a huge injury or go in deep decline.
A move like that would leave us with plenty of money to fill our remaining holes.
kenhotlanta
August 14th, 2012
1:47 pm
I love Google, but I think they are Big Brother. It’s scary how many times I have done a Google search for a person (that I do not know) and that person, out of over 300 million US residents, comes up at the very top of my search.
DAP
August 14th, 2012
1:49 pm
VaBravesFan Trade for someone like James Shields. He’s fits our payroll and is controllable for 2 more seasons. Both years are options so it’s not a financial risk if he were suffer a huge injury or go in deep decline.
see AT? like this. top of the rotation, not an ace.
i know its not easy to “make” our own ace, but i think doing things like that, as well as locking up young talent like heyward and freeman is the best – maybe the only – chance the braves have, moving forward. signing a 30 year old to a $20+ mil per year contract does not give us the best chance, in my opinion.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
1:51 pm
Say were able to land Grienke for 5 years 110 million (which would be bonkers in my opinion) We would have roughly 8 to 12 million left to figure out how we wanna handle CF and LF/3B and the bench.
Say they want to retain Reed Johnson and David Ross, they will easily combine for around 3 million total so now were down to roughly 5 to 9 mil left to fill 2 starting spots.
The remaining money wouldn’t even be enough to sign Victorino who is maybe the 4th best CF on the market. Thats why trading for our top pitcher (Like James Shields) makes more sense if we wanna improve the club in multiple spots.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
1:52 pm
You people are kidding yourself if you think Gilmartin is an ace.
I’m sorry, I’ve been away for a little – who in the world thinks Sean Gilmartin has “ace” upside?
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
1:53 pm
Trade for someone like James Shields.
All for it. But one of the prospects they’d want has a broken hand so I’m not sure how that’ll effect trade talks. I’m sure not that much, but just pointing it out.
Veer
August 14th, 2012
1:53 pm
We dont need to replace Jones’ and Bourn’s proudction in those spots. Simply by getting an Ace in the offseason does the trick and ofcourse a Mac and Uggla (Marlins} production should ease the burden.
Middle of the order of Heyward Freeman Mac and Uggla still looks solid.
Aramis Rameriez is a guy no body talks abou but he would be a good fit at 3B.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
1:53 pm
Wren still has the option to reject Hudson option and save another 8 million, or/also could trade Hanson and add prospects and save around 3 million to help add a significant starter like Grienke. But I like the trading options better.
MFin04
August 14th, 2012
1:54 pm
“I couldn’t care less vs I could care less”
I prefer I could care less. Depends on how sarcastic of a person you are I guess.
I could care less means what it says it means, you could care less, but you really don’t want to try to care less. It is a little more witty I think. They both basically mean the same thing, you don’t give a flying crap about said topic.
DAP
August 14th, 2012
2:00 pm
veer Aramis Rameriez is a guy no body talks abou but he would be a good fit at 3B.
i thought of that, but i think the cost is prohibitive. he is due $30 mil over the next 2 years.
MFin04
August 14th, 2012
2:02 pm
Why would you want to drop Hudson at around $10 million for Greinke around $24 million, when Hudson is probably the better pitcher to being with? Makes no sense.
David O'Brien
August 14th, 2012
2:04 pm
DOB – Maybe he does come back and make a significant contribution, but you certainly can’t pencil him in for a spot in the rotation like some here believe. Yes, pitchers do come back at a year from surgery, but they also have setbacks, too.
I kind of don’t see them making rotation decisions this winter based on Beachy returning. – Lew
I agree with the part about them not making decisions this winter with him in mind. For the simple reason that, even in a best case scenario, he’s going to miss the first 2-2-1/2 months of the season. And more likely, he’ll miss the first 3-4 months. All I was pointing out was, if he’s back in the typical 12 months, he should be able to pitch for about half the season, not for a couple of starts.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
2:05 pm
MFin04
I’m not for that, but some are in love with Grienke. I’m just breaking down the scenarios for signing him.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
2:08 pm
Wren still has the option to reject Hudson option and save another 8 million
That’s a scenario that has about .00000000001% chance of happening.
phil
August 14th, 2012
2:08 pm
raleighbravefan
August 14th, 2012
1:02 pm
I’m not in love with Greinke…I’m just not. Minority opinion, I’m sure.
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Not at all.
MFin04
August 14th, 2012
2:08 pm
Ok, I was going to get really worried if some where in favor of Greinke over Hudson.
Even if I could do a one year $24 million contract for one of them I’d still rather have Hudson. So the contract disparity really makes it a no brainer.
Murph
August 14th, 2012
2:09 pm
Trade for someone like James Shields……. A move like that would leave us with plenty of money to fill our remaining holes.
The trade for Shields would likely cost the Braves most of their valuable trade chips.
So, now you’re traded all of them away and you’ve got your pseudo-ace… then what? A bag full of cash and no free agents worth spending it all on.
Youk? No thanks. Upton? Nuh uh. Of the available free agents, is there a single one worth what they are likely to get? Even Bourn’s price is going to make him a bad deal.
Shaun
August 14th, 2012
2:10 pm
I was half kidding man. Im not gonna get into a crazy debate involving all the WAR stats and so on. Just frustrated with Uggla after defending the guy most of the season. When we signed him I figured we were getting a RH bat that would play 155+ games and smack 30+ homers. Now he’s playing just as much but isn’t even slugging 400…
Well, I won’t say the Braves should have expected this but I think they should have thought it possible that Uggla would have some seasons like this over the length of his tenure in Atlanta.
That said, his season hasn’t been awful, thanks mostly to a pretty good OBP. That aspect of his offense has salvaged his season.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
2:13 pm
No one likes Greinke. In fact, I’ve never seen a pitcher who is pretty damn good get so much heat. It’s probably the potential price tag, which will likely be in the 20 million a year range, and I’m just not sure why Braves fans are even worrying about it. We aren’t going to invest more than 20% of our payroll in one starting pitcher. Just not going to happen.
Just like we aren’t going to pay a speedster like Bourn who turns 30 later this year, 16-22 million a year.
If you’re a mid-market payroll like Atlanta, you CAN spend 18-20 million a year on a player – but that player needs to be the total package and likely a position player, imo.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
2:13 pm
Efrim
Well of course, I’m just pointing it out. It would become a possible option if say the Braves did sign Grienke for 20+ million a season. We’d still have needs at LF or 3B and CF and the bench. We’d have roughly 10 million left to figure all that out.
If they felt Grienke was a massive addition to the rotation (Which they should if they give him the bank) we could afford to let Hudson go to save money to fill holes. After all we have alot of starting pitching options.
Veer
August 14th, 2012
2:13 pm
Hudson is a warrior and his 9 million option is like signing Ben Sheets for free. You see Hudson is one of the premier pitchers out there and to get him for 9 million is a hug bargin. His real price should be over17 million. He is having a better year thn Cliff Lee and Lee is making like 25 million. You cant even find a better deal in dollar sotre than u wud in exercising Hudsons option
phil
August 14th, 2012
2:14 pm
I don’t think letting Hudson go is a huge stretch….
Injuries have cropped up with him a lot here in the last 3-4 years. Elbow, low back, ankle….
He’s not likely to become healthier with age, 8 million is significant money and we supposedly have this wealth of pitching that has to be inserted somewhere at some point or be traded.
I could see Tim getting the fond farewell, not that I favor it.
MFin04
August 14th, 2012
2:14 pm
“Even Bourn’s price is going to make him a bad deal.”
But is the goal to win games or avoid bad deals? I mean a team can have one or two bad deals and still win a lot of games and have a great roster. At some point you have to pick and choose your bad deals. Chipper has been a bad deal for years now.
Bourn will be overpaid, but his skill set is one of the things that has made this Braves team better than the teams in the past few years.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
2:14 pm
Trade for someone like James Shields.
All for it. But one of the prospects they’d want has a broken hand so I’m not sure how that’ll effect trade talks. I’m sure not that much, but just pointing it out.
Not to mention that they’d likely want 1 of Teheran/Delgado + Bethancourt, and 1 of Spruill/Graham/Gilmartin… Heck, they might even want more than that!
I’d rather pay 15-20 for a pitcher and keep my prospects than trade 3-4 of them for a pitcher who has struggled in 3 of his last 4 years.
Arkansas Transplant
August 14th, 2012
2:14 pm
free agency = overpay
That’s a stigma, not a rule.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
2:16 pm
Well the Braves did pay 15 million a season to a 36 year old Derek Lowe, which makes me believe they would possibly pay 20 million to a 28 year old
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
2:18 pm
28 year old Zack Grienke that is.
MFin04
August 14th, 2012
2:19 pm
“Well the Braves did pay 15 million a season to a 36 year old Derek Lowe, which makes me believe they would possibly pay 20 million to a 28 year old”
15 to 20 is a HUGE jump, not to mention the Braves were desperate then and aren’t desperate now. Also, I doubt he is going to only get 20.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
2:20 pm
Well the Braves did pay 15 million a season to a 36 year old Derek Lowe, which makes me believe they would possibly pay 20 million to a 28 year old
Different situation. Think back to 2009 – all of the big time prospects were still prospects and making no money. That isn’t the case moving forward with lots of arb. eligibles coming up , and while the pitching is not great for 2013, it’s not nearly in the state it was in pre-2009.
Arkansas Transplant
August 14th, 2012
2:21 pm
if say the Braves did sign Grienke for 20+ million a season. We’d still have needs at LF or 3B and CF and the bench. We’d have roughly 10 million left to figure all that out.
Then you move EOF or Venters in clearing approxiately 2 million more and picking up someone that can contribute either on the bench or LF/CF, plus a prospect or 2. There’s no a limitation on what we could do, just have to be creative. But I’d rather have a top 5 rotation, then an average offense and average rotation. Our offense without resigning Bourn and with Chipper retiring is still a very formible one with the likes of Prado, Heyward, McCann, Freeman, Simmons and Uggla.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
2:21 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
I really think were gonna have to trade some prospects man. Look at all of our starting options.
Hudson (Option)
Hanson
Minor
Maholm (Option)
Delgado
Medlen
Teheran
Beachy at some point as well….
Still some want to see Ben Sheets resigned and most want a top or the rotation type added. Your really have to think that Delgado/Teheran or even Hanson could be traded.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
2:21 pm
The trade for Shields would likely cost the Braves most of their valuable trade chips.
This.
I don’t think letting Hudson go is a huge stretch….
I think it only happens if he gets hurt… He’s sticking around. I would like to renegotiate his deal though, turn it into 2 years at 5-6 mil each, but I don’t know if he’d do that.
Veer
August 14th, 2012
2:22 pm
I would extend Hudson and offer him few million dollars more out of guilt for ripping the guy off. I mean the guy is worth more than 8 million a year. Look at his peers. 500 pitchers with era over 4 go for 10 million at market price. Some of you are short changing Huddy. Tonight Hudson will show many of you that YOU GUYS ARE WRONG.
Hudson is a true brave. After Smoltz and Cox Huddy is the real Brave left
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
2:22 pm
Also, I doubt he is going to only get 20.
He’s much better than anyone else on the market this winter with starter needs from both LA teams and tons of cash to play with if you’re the Dodgers. Plus, Hamilton leaving Texas could open them up as a player too. Also would not count out the White Sox on Greinke. I think his price will likely be 20-21 million a year.
DAP
August 14th, 2012
2:24 pm
MFin04 Chipper has been a bad deal for years now.
now thats funny.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
2:24 pm
Hudson isn’t going anywhere unless he hurts his arm again. It’s friggin bone spurs in his ankle, not the black plague.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
2:24 pm
now thats funny.
MFin provides a lot of humor around here.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
2:24 pm
I really think were gonna have to trade some prospects man. Look at all of our starting options.
Sure we are…. I’m not a huge prospect hugger like Efrim and scoots
I think that we can sign Greinke and then trade for LF or CF with our prospects…. depending on who we get and their cost determines if we go FA for the other position or in-house. (I am assuming Prado plays 3rd)
MFin04
August 14th, 2012
2:25 pm
Efrim – Might want to reread my quote you quoted…
Veer
August 14th, 2012
2:25 pm
Hudson at 2 yrs 5 million each meaning if he makes 8 mil next season he would make 2 million the following season?? for a pitcher of his caliber? You guys obviously dont respect Hudson enough. 2 million a season in 2014 for Hudson? The guy gave us huge disount in first place to stay with us.
Arkansas Transplant
August 14th, 2012
2:25 pm
Look at all of our starting options.
Quantity does not equal quality.
Waffle House or Bust
August 14th, 2012
2:26 pm
Last time I checked, it’s not cool to chant “We’re number 2!! We’re number 2!!” but I think some of you hillbillies don’t mind it. Just as long as Chipper hits and I see dem black players run fast (in your redneck accent). Pssshhhhh!
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
2:27 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
Still by doing that our options would be limited. The player we would receive has to fit our budget, and since the player we’d be looking to add isn’t high paid it makes it even harder to get the other team to move such a player. Were talking about around 10 million total to figure out LF/CF and the bench.
MFin04
August 14th, 2012
2:29 pm
Hudson for $8 million vs AT LEAST $21 million for Greinke. Wow. Not even a question. Sign Bourn, pray for McCann and Uggla, and keep this same rotation along with Teheran, Delgado, Beachy as options next year.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
2:30 pm
Julio Teheran goes tonight for Gwinnett.
By the way, for those that follow Shelby Miller as a comp to Teheran as a premier pitching prospect gone bad – his fastball velocity is back up to 94-97mph and over his last five starts, he has a 0/31 BB/K ratio through 29.2 IP. 3.54 ERA in that span.
phil
August 14th, 2012
2:31 pm
Chipper was a bad deal….
Huh? I can only shake my head.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
2:31 pm
Hudson at 2 yrs 5 million each meaning if he makes 8 mil next season he would make 2 million the following season??
What??? 2 yrs at 5 million each means that he makes 5 million in 2013 and 5 million in 2014… don’t know what you’re talking about.
WHOB with more “wisdom”
phil
August 14th, 2012
2:32 pm
Arkansas Transplant
August 14th, 2012
2:25 pm
Look at all of our starting options.
Quantity does not equal quality.
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Agree completely, but if Teheran is indeed showing signs of improvement, then it’s a check in the quality column.
ChattTownBrian
August 14th, 2012
2:33 pm
Just because money will be coming off the books doesn’t mean they’re going to make big splash signings or trades. Wren likes to keep a good stash away for a rainy day, and that stash includes his precious prospects. Could be a piece here, a piece there and maybe not even a real big piece. Unless you consider signing Sheets a “big” piece. Maybe he is.
Oh and Bourn I bet will be their main target, but will lose out to the Nats or a real high dollar org.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
2:35 pm
MFin- Keep the same rotation??? Huddy is an aging #2, and all the other pitchers are #3/4… gotta hope that Minor keeps this up, Delgado and Maholm pitch well, and that Teheran can pitch well… I’m not convinced that they all pitch their best.
Julio Teheran goes tonight for Gwinnett.
Gonna be checking his stats… he needs a good outing.
ChattTownBrian
August 14th, 2012
2:36 pm
Yeah, Hudson is a huge bargain. Not said nearly enough here or during Braves games, but he is. If he didn’t have the ankle problem, he would be the same ol Hudson from last year.
Pace
August 14th, 2012
2:36 pm
I thought Hudson’s salary was 9M next year w/a 1M buyout option. WHY, WHY would he agree to sign a two year deal for only 1M more for the second year???
The Braves are NOT going to buy out the year for a million when for 9M they have a solid starter.
Efrim
August 14th, 2012
2:36 pm
With no CF in the system, I’d expect the Braves to say they are in it for Bourn until the end – but end up losing out to the Giants, Nats, Phillies or whoever.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
2:37 pm
pitch at their best…. these guys are young, there will be many struggles.
VaBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
2:38 pm
Im being sarcastic here but from the way it looks we have stellar pitching. We have so many good pitchers that we have to do a 6 man rotation. Oh yeah Delgado and Teheran isn’t even included and Beachy is on the disabled list. But yeah we need a top pitcher add for next season. LOL
Pace
August 14th, 2012
2:38 pm
Braves Payroll Commitments 2013:
Uggla 13.2M
Maholm 6.5M/.5Mbuyout
Hanson 9M/1Mbuyout
McCann 12M/.5Mbuyout
So, 40.7M committed if they pick up the options, 15.2M if they only retain Uggla and buyout the other three.
Out of a payroll of 94M (this years stated amount), the Braves will have 53M to sign 21 other players to fill out the Major League roster.
MFin04
August 14th, 2012
2:41 pm
“I’d expect the Braves to say they are in it for Bourn until the end”
I’d just wish that starting as early as September they’d tell us they are out of the running for Bourn and that we need to emotionally move on to someone like Reed Johnson, Jose Constanza, Luis Durango, etc.
The Braves will not be the highest bidder. Not going to happen. If Bourn is wanting to go to the highest bidder, than we mine as well just let him go now. If he wants to stay here, then give him a little bit more than fair offer. I don’t see the Braves doing it though.
Of course maybe if we beat the lowly Padres, win the division, and get deep in the playoffs, he might want to stay with a winner.
Carroll Rogers
August 14th, 2012
2:41 pm
new blog is up!
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/08/14/braves-look-to-hudson-for-another-w-after-an-l/
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 14th, 2012
2:41 pm
WHY, WHY would he agree to sign a two year deal for only 1M more for the second year???
That’s what I said… he wouldn’t agree to it… likely means that he will be our ace/top pitcher. Not much money for another top SP unless they go cheap in CF/LF (or Juan gets to start at 3B)
ChattTownBrian
August 14th, 2012
2:42 pm
Efrim, oh of course. See we know the game. Talking about Bourn. He ain’t coming back here. It won’t be a good day when he signs with another team for me. He brings a ton to a team, but the days of signing these types whenever they want are over. Most of us have realized this by now. The others will soon enough.
Veer
August 14th, 2012
2:44 pm
Hudson is not a number 2. HE IS STILL A NUMBER 1. Yes he might not be an ace like Kershaw but he is still a number 1. Any other pitcher with ankle issues would probably be on 100 day DL but not Hudson. He is a warrior. His performance has taken a hit due to injury.
SNEAKY PETE
August 14th, 2012
2:45 pm
Tommy Hanson should be paying attention as that’s the role he’s going to assume once the Braves go back to a 5-man rotation….,,,murph
nah, ain’t likely to happen that way
DAP
August 14th, 2012
2:53 pm
the thought that chipper hasnt been worth his contact got me thinking…i check his baseball reference page, and it says he has made $155mil playing baseball for 19 seasons. his season salary topped out at $16mil, in 2005.
by comparison, albert pujols just signed a $240mil deal for ten years. alex rodreguez signed a $275mil contract for ten years. even todd helton’s long term deal paid him $141.5mil. alfonso sorianos deal was worth $136mil.
then there is chipper, who has made $155mil his entire career.
in my opinion, is actually shocking how down right cheap chipper has been to employ as an atlanta brave.