Braves rock Santana, roll Mets 9-3

NEW YORK – The Braves used to win against Johan Santana because his teams provided awful run support when he faced Atlanta. But these days they just beat the once-great Mets left-hander. And beat him badly.

The Braves scored nine runs in the first two innings and cruised to a 9-3 rout against the New York Mets and Santana on Saturday night at Citi Field, their 14th win in 17 games and seventh in a row against the Mets.

Kris Medlen (3-1) had seven strikeouts in a season-high 6-1/3 solid innings in his third start since moving from the Braves bullpen, and Freddie Freeman drove in five runs in the first two innings including a mammoth three-run homer.

“I don’t even know if that’s ever happened before,” Medlen said of pitching with a 9-0 lead after the Braves’ second inning. “That’s one thing you need as a starter, some run support. I got that.”

Michael Bourn added three hits for the Braves, who clinched their sixth consecutive series win.

“We just got the ball rolling early and we kept it going,” Bourn said. “We had a lot of good at-bats against [Santana]…. It wasn’t like he was making a lot of bad pitches. But we were able to put the bat on the ball, and we kept going. We were able to get a real good lead, which is always good for your pitcher. And Medlen stayed strong. He was mixing them up good and pitching with aggression.”

After limiting the Mets to five hits, one run and one walk, Medlen is 2-0 with a 1.62 ERA in three starts this season, and 7-0 with a 3.68 ERA in 17 starts going back to his move to the rotation during the 2010 season. That stint in the rotation ended when he tore an elbow ligament and had surgery that sidelined him until the final week of the 2011 season.

The Braves are 16-1 in Medlen’s 17 starts this season and in 2010, including 14 consecutive wins.

“Medlen was great,” said manager Fredi Gonzalez, whose surging Braves stayed 4-1/2 games behind equally hot National League East leader Washington. “If everybody [in the starting rotation] is pitching the way we’re pitching, it’s going to be a tough decision whether we stay with five or go with six [when Tommy  Hanson comes off the disabled list]. Because all these guys are pitching. We’ve rattled off some pretty good starts looking back about three weeks now.”

Santana (6-8) was charged with eight runs and eight hits in 1-1/3 innings, equaling his April 17 start in Atlanta as the briefest of his career. After never lasting fewer than three innings in a start before this season, the former two-time American League Cy Young Award winner has been knocked out twice by the Braves before recording his fifth out.

“He had trouble with his change-up tonight early, and we got into some counts and got some pitches in the middle of the plate to hit,” Braves third baseman Chipper Jones said. “We bled a few in, but it was not typical Johan.”

Santana was 3-6 with a 2.14 ERA in his first 13 starts against the Braves, including five scoreless innings of two-hit ball this season on opening day. But in three starts against Atlanta since then, he’s 0-3 with a 21.13 ERA, with 18 earned runs and 20 hits allowed in 7-2/3 innings.

“It’s just one of those nights where I didn’t execute pitches the way they’re supposed to be executed,” said Santana, who returned from a DL stint for a sprained ankle. “But overall I felt fine. I didn’t feel anything in my ankle or my shoulder. I felt good. It’s just over three weeks not facing any hitters at this level and then trying to command all of your pitches, it wasn’t my best.”

The Braves started Saturday’s game with consecutive singles by Michael Bourn and Reed Johnson. Santana struck out Jason Heyward and Jones before Freeman hit a two-run double. Freeman leads the National League with 31 RBIs when batting with runners in scoring position and two outs, and his .403 average (21-for-52) in those situations is the league leader among hitters with at least 30 such at-bats.

“That’s my favorite,” Freeman said. “It really hurts the other team when you get a two-out ribbie. It’s something that I take a lot of pride in, and I’ve actually done a good job this year with that.”

Santana got out of the inning without further damage, but the Braves really went to work against him in the second inning. After a leadoff walk by Dan Uggla, the Braves got three consecutive singles from Paul Janish, Medlen and Bourn, the latter two driving in a run apiece for a 4-0 lead.

One out later, Heyward and Jones had RBI singles to chase Santana from the game.

“That’s probably the best fastball I’ve seen him have since early in the season,” Mets manager Terry Collins said. “Just balls in the middle of the plate. And, as I told him when I took him out: No disrespect to the Braves. They’ve got a very, very good club. But when they hit it, they hit it where nobody was standing. He didn’t have a ball hit at anybody.”

The first batter reliever Jeremy Hesler faced was Freeman, who launched a 3-1 fastball over the moon – or at least over the big apple beyond the center-field fence. The mammoth homer was estimated at 455 feet, just 10 feet shy of the Citi Field record set by Miami’s Giancarlo Stanton in 2011.

“I’m going to have to say, that’s as good as I can hit one there,” said Freeman, smiling. “I don’t know how far that went, but if you guys say like 400 I’m going to be upset.”

Ten of Freeman’s 14 home runs this season have come with runners on base, and he ranks among NL leaders with 74 RBIs.

“He’s taking the next step toward stardom,” Jones said. “I mean, he’s going to drive in 100 runs. That’s something that’s pretty big for guys in the middle of the lineup, especially young guys. Do it once and get some confidence, know that you can go out there and do it every year. Freddie’s a guy that, if he stays healthy, he can run off a few 100-RBI seasons in a row.”

Two of three runs runs from Freeman’s homer were added to Santana’s ledger, leaving him with one of the ugliest lines of his career: 1-1/3 innings, eight hits, eight runs, one walk, two strikeouts. He has not been the same dominant pitcher since shoulder surgery in September 2010, and the Mets may regret letting him push it in a couple of outings May 26 and June 1, the latter a no-hitter against St. Louis.

He pitched back-to-back shutouts in those games against San Diego and St. Louis, and totaled 134 pitches against the Cardinals. That’s 26 pitches more than he’s thrown in any other start this season, and 91 more than he lasted Friday in his first game back from a stint on the disabled list for a sprained ankle and shoulder fatigue.

Since his no-hitter Santana is 3-6 with a 7.98 ERA in nine starts, including 0-4 with a jaw-dropping 17.36 ERA in his past four, allowing 36 hits and 27 earned runs in 14 painful innings during those four games.

He went on the DL with an ankle injury that occurred when he was covering first base on a grounder by Johnson, then of the Cubs. Johnson stepped on Santana’s twisted ankle on the play, which came in the first of his three bad starts before he was DL’d.

62 comments Add your comment

Matt

August 11th, 2012
9:59 pm

Matthew 19:30

Brave New World

August 11th, 2012
10:04 pm

Some might argue that R.A. Dickey is the Mets ace.

DaveinNEPA

August 11th, 2012
10:18 pm

I don’t see how they could justify taking Medlen out of the rotation after the way he’s pitched in his starts.

Hanson is just going to have to suck it up and pitch out of the pen or stay on the DL. The other five starters are pitching too good to change anything.

I Just wish the Nats would lose a game once in a while.

Nerdville

August 11th, 2012
10:24 pm

Where would the Braves be in the standings if the nitwits who call the shots for the team had put Medlen in the rotation a long time ago?

Steve

August 11th, 2012
10:25 pm

If these idiots pull Medlen from the rotation then I will not turn on another game this month. I am so sick of hearing about all these other guys ‘potential’.

Hanson has the potential to be a #1 or #2. And? Has he pitched like it?
Minor has the potential to be a #2 or #3. And? Has he pitched liked it?
and on .. and on.

Point blank, the Braves best pitchers in ORDER right now are
Medlen
Sheets
Maholm
Hudson

The decision should be whether or not Hanson should be in the pen or not. If not, then Minor should go there as a lefty specialist. Stop screwing around with your BEST starter and give him the ball every fifth day.

Point blank .. would you rather have Medlen, Hanson, or Minor going out there for a 1 game start with everything on the line. Anyone not answering with Medlen has lost their minds.

eskippy

August 11th, 2012
10:34 pm

What games have you been watching when Minor pitches? Hanson in the pen makes about as much sense as a left handed catcher.

PaulG

August 11th, 2012
10:38 pm

At the end of the season freeman will have posted some fine numbers..a potential franchise player

Lobosolo

August 11th, 2012
10:52 pm

Point blank… Those “idiots” have built and guided the Bravos to the 3rd best record in baseball (so far)… Can’t you just revel in that? I don’t know what it will take for some of you…

VinceVanGo

August 11th, 2012
10:53 pm

There’s probably not a starting pitcher in the majors who has a better winning percentage then Medlen, 16-1 in games they started. It’s a no brainer and Frank knows it even if Fredi doesn’t. Make Hanson earn his job back. I’ve said it before, he’s the worst 12 game winner in baseball.

Jaded

August 11th, 2012
10:54 pm

There’s no easy decision for Fredi and Wren. Personally, I’d put Minor in the bullpen, but any move is going to be criticized by a segment of Braves fans. I just know you can’t pull Medlen. I don’t know if he’s our best starter, but there’s no one I feel more confident in.

Just Asking?

August 11th, 2012
10:57 pm

Could it be that Medlen is pitching so well because he has not pitched a lot of innings this year? Sure, he could have won some games for us but he might be more valuable to us in the post season just because he will have one of the freshest arms on the team as a starter. Last year we couldn’t get out of September, but this year we have six choices to pitch and perhaps some fresh arms to throw at the other teams we will face.
It is easy to say that Medlen should have started now (I’m still not convinced of that.), but let’s look on the bright side and say that we are glad to have such a strong arm to put out there in October. Santana is having the problems he has had because he was pushed to do too much too soon and too often. The Braves didn’t do that to Medlen. Perhaps it was by design or perhaps not, but in either case we have a good pitcher who is ready and able to pitch and win games for the team.
Also, his head is on straight and he is willing to pitch anywhere he’s needed. Other pitchers might not be able or willing to put their desires aside for the betterment of the team. We are blessed to have him and his attitude.
Thanks Kris!

Joseph

August 11th, 2012
10:58 pm

Vince, team record is now 17-4 when he starts. Minor in the pen? REALLY???? Last 6 starts (even with a rain shortened game included) 38IP, 9 ER, 2.13 ERA, 32 K, 8 BB. You people want him in the pen??? Are you kidding me?

bravo-n-knoxville

August 11th, 2012
10:59 pm

Easy fix on return of Tommy Hanson=6 man rotation since they are on a 20 gms. in 20 days stretch. It’s the dog days of summer in Hotlanta & you can be assured that Fred G. is going to protect all of his pitchers this time unlike 2011 in the collapse.

Joseph

August 11th, 2012
11:01 pm

I was hoping they would give Medlen a shot in ST to be a starter but facts are from Wren’s own mouth many many times, he has never pitched a full season at more than 130 or so innings. They wanted to limit his innings and make sure he is 100% after surgery 2 years ago. Obviously he has made the right decisions considering where this team is right now.

Jaded

August 11th, 2012
11:02 pm

Joseph, like I said – there’s no easy decision. Minor is pitching well, no doubt. So is everyone else. Unfortunately, one of them has to go. In my mind it comes down to Hanson and Minor for that last spot, and I’d take my chances with Hanson because his track record is better. But I can certainly see why you’d favor Minor.

Joseph

August 11th, 2012
11:06 pm

Like bravo mentioned Fredi has said more than once in the past 2 weeks that a 6 man rotation is on the table and is likely. Now if we are talking who gets bumped for postseason roster to the pen then yes there is a debate, but right now no debate. Hudson is battling ankle ailments, Hanson is hurt now (waiting to see how his rehab goes hopefully he can pitch next weekend in Atlanta), Sheets is lights out and should be comeback of year but has long injury history. So honestly how can we not go with 6 man rotation for a while and see what happens and try to let our starters get a little rest and recovery.

Hanson doesn't belong

August 11th, 2012
11:06 pm

Tommy is a good first half pitcher that struggles in the second half. His motion is not conducive to holding up over a big league season. Too much arm, not enough trunk. The arm won’t hold up
over 30 starts. Don’t get mad, all you Hanson lovers, its just a fact. Medlen is, and has been, a better
pitcher than Hanson.

Jaded

August 11th, 2012
11:07 pm

Just Asking? makes a good point as well. Medlen’s arm is going to fresh down the stretch, which is another reason why he should remain in the rotation.

mark

August 11th, 2012
11:07 pm

Hey Santanna who’s your daddy ?????? You could have several Daddies on the Braves team. Our time has finally come !!!! You gotta give our team some respect when they come to your ballpark. GO BRAVES !!!

Jaded

August 11th, 2012
11:12 pm

I just think going to a 6-man rotation is too risky in a pennant race. Starters are creatures of habit and settle into a rythym of going every five days. That extra rest seems like a good thing, but it often causes pitchers to lose a little bit of feel for their pitches.

Maybe it would work, but our rotation really has it rolling right now. No reason to mess with success, IMO.

Jaded

August 11th, 2012
11:14 pm

Rhythm*

I will learn to spell that word one day.

Kris

August 11th, 2012
11:16 pm

Braves playoff rotation should be: sheets, one game wild card playoff, then Hudson, Medlen, maholme, sheets again, with minor and Hanson in the pen.

jharber

August 11th, 2012
11:17 pm

Hanson has to go to the pen, in my opinion he is just to out of control with pitches and cannot hold runners.

eskippy

August 11th, 2012
11:22 pm

Hanson’s delivery is lost between last year’s and this “new” delivery. I don’t think he will find it this year and he has got to change again or they will steal him blind. He needs to start working on a much less dangerous delivery (injury and holding runners) for next year now. I don’t think he will be much help to the Braves the rest of this season.

John w

August 11th, 2012
11:27 pm

Screw Hanson!! He’s had 9 quality starts out of 23. This shouldn’t even be debated. Put him in the bullpen. If he performs well then give him a start or two down the stretch. Don’t mess with what we have going right now!!!

Tron5000

August 11th, 2012
11:33 pm

Hanson had a few bad starts after being great for the first half of the season. You don’t take him out of the rotation unless the wheels really fall off or he comes up lame with another injury. Medlen has had 3 good starts. Hooray. Hanson has at least 6 times that amount this year.

To the poster that said Hanson won’t hold up over 30 starts, how about that 3.33 ERA over 34 starts in 2010? Then a 3.60 ERA last year (22 starts). Dude was great until July 14 (3.71 ERA to that point). He got a little rest and will be fine down the stretch.

Brave New World

August 11th, 2012
11:47 pm

Hanson is 12-5. Surely there are better scapegoats for the geniuses on these blogs to pick on. Might I suggest Derek Lowe – he’s still on our payroll, and he truly stinks.

Tron5000

August 11th, 2012
11:49 pm

Tommy Hanson, 25 years old and owner of a career 44-27 record and 3.50 ERA…but get that bum out of town after 4 shaky starts! (None of which were losses.) Good grief.

Thomas

August 12th, 2012
12:08 am

Medlen deserves to stay in the rotation. With the five we’ve got now, Minor is the only one that worries me and he’s been great lately. Tommy Hanson is too game-to-game for me to trust him in every start. Just imagine if we had this five-man rotation plus Beachy. This might be what the Braves need to launch us into the post-season. #thisiswhywechop

Jay

August 12th, 2012
12:09 am

Trade Hanson. He’s a Tommy John surgery waiting to happen. Trade him now, don’t hold on to him too long like with Jurrjens.

say what?

August 12th, 2012
12:19 am

I love some of the great fans in here … team is being run by “idiots” and “nitwits”? one of the best teams in mlb … must just be getting lucky I guess.

Keith

August 12th, 2012
12:44 am

Leo Mazzone brought up a good point on 680 the Fan today.

What pitcher gives you more for the role he’s in?

I know it may sound crazy, but Medlen gives you more as a bridge to Kimbrel in the bullpen than does putting Hanson in the pen. I’m a HUGE FAN of Med, but Hanson (though he hasn’t been sharp in Aug/July) does have 12 wins, and I doubt he’d have a good fit in the pen….

So even though Medlen is pitching better than Tommy currently, I think he has a much better payoff since Hanson isn’t going anywhere…

Having that said, I’d love to keep them both somehow. lol

Keith

August 12th, 2012
12:46 am

Medlen – starter (great fit)
Hanson – bullpen (terrible fit – never relieved)

VS.

Hanson – starter (decent fit if you look at his history..hoping he’ll come around)
Medlen – great fit (bridge to 8th, 9th innings)

This is how I meant to articulate in my last post….

COOPER

August 12th, 2012
1:36 am

Medlen is another type Greg Maddox pitcher. He would be the # 1 or #2 starter for a lot of clubs because of his control. Because his surgery was only last year he will be effective only for a few months before he drops in speed but as long as he can throw at 91 to 93 MPH it would only hurt the Braves by not starting him every fourth or fifth day.
Same thing with Sheets , as long as he can throw strikes , get his signature curve or change up over for strikes and maintain speed around 91MPH then he should start.We need a left hand pitcher in the rotation and Maholm seems to be the ticket. Minor deserves to start as long as he can throw strikes. Lately he has been doing great. But the first sign that his control is a problem you have to pull him out of the rotation.
Hudson is getting tired , he has been the main stay ,# 1 pitcher all year and is starting to have control problems as is Hanson. If Hanson can’t get his great breaking ball over for a strike he gets killed. Just having a fast ball is not enough.
1-Hudson– 121 innings
2- Hanson–126 innings
3- Minor — 123 innings
4- Medlen– 71 innings
I don’t know how many innings Sheets and Maholm has this year before they came to the braves but they seem to be no where near their . had enough for one year ,yet.
Just because Medlen has control the Braves should not reward him by putting him back in the bull pen. And I meant that as sarcastic as I can make it.
We didn’t get in the playoff last year because our starter gave out by the end of September and Kimbrel had nothing left by October.
Keep the six man rotation but let Hudson and Hanson skip every over turn and if Minor starts having control issues again take him out of the rotation.

COOPER

August 12th, 2012
1:54 am

Control is everything is Pro ball. The first time any of our starters have control issues in back to back starts , they need to be pulled and that includes Hudson and Hanson.
Beachy will not be back until after the all star game next year but if he has the same control and hasn’t lost anything , he will be a #1 or # 2 starter as will Medlen. Hanson will be a #3 or 4 starter and we will have to wait to see about Hudson. When Hudson is bad he is real bad. Usually he only has one bad inning but that one inning is real bad. He may be perfect to go to the bullpen but probably will not accept the new roll , just like Smoltz couldn’t at first.
I would try to resign Sheets he is a great pitcher but even though Maholm is good the Braves have too many starter to keep him for next year . We will have to see how much the braves rely on him the rest of the year.
Then what to do with all that Minor league talent waiting to come up to the majors. If played right the Braves could be setting themselves up for another dynasty . Replace Chipper and Uggla with two consistent younger infielders. Simmons will be the Short Stop for a long time if he can hit 300 every year. He is already a Gold Glove as far as I am concerned. Pay whatever it takes to resign Bourne.

RunninWithTheDawgs

August 12th, 2012
4:27 am

I’m happy to see Reed Johnson contributing in the hit column. He’s batting.300 and plays the outfield well. Maybe we finally got what we were looking for in Nate McClouth.

RunninWithTheDawgs

August 12th, 2012
4:32 am

Uggla seems to be picking up in the hitting dept. Now if Simmons will come back healthy and McCann will pick up his avg. we just might have a chance at the Worls Series. GO BRAVES

JNick

August 12th, 2012
6:20 am

Hanson isn’t TJ surgery waiting to happen, he’s labrum/rotator cuff surgery waiting to happen. His delivery is actually very easy on his elbow with the way he “short-arms” it – he already has a small tear in his shoulder – I say in the next year/two he’ll be headed for the OR to tighten up that shoulder. His velocity is way down from what it used to be – he used to be up around 94, now he’s more like 88-89.

Theo '85

August 12th, 2012
6:51 am

Matt quoting Matthew is telling everyone: the Nationals, who have been last forever, will remain first. The Braves, who have been first forever, will be last, i.e., not overtake the Nats. He might also be saying that Judgment Day has arrived, or is truly imminent, which is a pre-requisite for the condition Jesus described. So, as a Nats fan who loves the Lord, I’m scoring it this way: (1) I’m happy the Nats, and not the Braves, are inheriting the earth; (2) I’m sad that the Nats won’t get a chance to defend whatever title they win; and (3) all you Braves fans might want to repent, and soon.

PaulG

August 12th, 2012
7:42 am

Nice to see some rational discussions on the board today…..and fairly polite so far….keep it up…..but I fear lurking in the forest are the Ferdifetishests who will argue that every defeat the braves had was his fault and all the victories only due to the players only

Ted

August 12th, 2012
7:53 am

Hanson will be back to his 105 pitches in 5 innings and needing 4 others to finish it out.

a fan

August 12th, 2012
8:14 am

Braves rock on!

I See Clearly Now

August 12th, 2012
8:44 am

How can Hanson be put in the bullpen? He enters in a 3-2 game and he walks his first batter, who then steals 2nd, steals 3rd, and then scores on a grounder or Sac Fly. Game tied that easy. No thanks! Get his delivery worked on down in AAA and bring him back for another shot in 2013.

Carl Farvman

August 12th, 2012
9:07 am

Hard to ascertain how good the Braves are with the NL having so many bad teams. Time will tell if most of the league is just a bunch of decent teams beating up on really bad teams and, thus, sporting above .500 records. Hold back on the WS talk; this could simply be an illusion.

Nite Owl

August 12th, 2012
9:27 am

I’m going to take the easy way out and say that we still have 49 games left to evaluate. The cream will rise to the top.

But I do share the concern that a 6-man rotation will get guys out of their rhythm. And we might have won more games with Medlin as a starter, but how many games has he held out of the bullpen that otherwise might have been lost?

And a tip of the cap to Frank Wren for picking up Maholm and Johnson. Wren gets all the blame for a bad move, no credit for the good ones.

David O'Brien

August 12th, 2012
11:02 am

How can Hanson be put in the bullpen? He enters in a 3-2 game and he walks his first batter, who then steals 2nd, steals 3rd, and then scores on a grounder or Sac Fly. Game tied that easy. No thanks! Get his delivery worked on down in AAA and bring him back for another shot in 2013 — I Can See Clearly Now

While I agree with you on the bad fit of Hanson in bullpen, t’s also not realistic to think Hanson could go down to Triple-A for the final month of the season and “get his delivery worked out” facing hitters in minor league games, after spending most of three months in January-March working on that delivery.

BrandonLee49

August 12th, 2012
11:13 am

Freeman Sparked the offense, Rattled Santana, and Kris Medlin did the Rest. Very Excellent all-aroud effort.

say what?

August 12th, 2012
11:33 am

the idea of hanson going to the pen is not realistic. He will be given a few more chances at it at least. look to JJ’s situation as a guide. They want these guys to get to where their supposed to be. There is time and they will wait it out. this isn’t fantasy baseball. Top line pitchers aren’t easy to come by and they cant be hasty in demotting top pitchers. If they followed the advise and oppinions of some of the posters suggest in here, no pitcher would want to come to the braves

Fastball

August 12th, 2012
11:35 am

Make Chipper the Manager. Trade Bourn now. McCann too.

The Brave Californian

August 12th, 2012
11:39 am

Hanson is a disaster waiting to happen.

Aubrey

August 12th, 2012
11:57 am

What was the tale of the tape on Freeman’s bomb?

Carl Farvman

August 12th, 2012
12:20 pm

“Make Chipper the Manager. Trade Bourn now. McCann too”

Yes, McCann is a huge risk–too unreliable–and it won’t get better with age. Let someone overpay for Bourne because that is exactly what will happen.

Let’s leave Chipper out of the Manager discussion. He’s too busy with his highly intellectual mind letting us all get an early peak at his cleverness/wit with his nonsensical tweets.

Aubrey

August 12th, 2012
12:47 pm

“I’m going to have to say that’s as good as I can hit one there,” Freeman said. “I don’t how far that one went. But if you guys say something like 400 [feet], I’m going to be upset.”

While the Mets did not announce a distance, Freeman’s titanic shot appeared to travel an estimated 450 feet

Amber Girl

August 12th, 2012
12:50 pm

Freddie went Mambo

Brave New World

August 12th, 2012
12:57 pm

Sorry Fastball, but Chipper is not a candidate for manager. Ever wonder why he has never been made captain? Chipper is a great player, a future Hall of Famer, and possibly a hitting coach, but he has never been much of a leader.

DawgNole

August 12th, 2012
1:29 pm

Lobosolo
August 11th, 2012
10:52 pm

Point blank… Those “idiots” have built and guided the Bravos to the 3rd best record in baseball (so far)… Can’t you just revel in that? I don’t know what it will take for some of you…
_________________

How about the second-best record? Or, better yet, the best record? Why settle for third? Does ending the year in third place win you a championship?

ChipperisGod

August 12th, 2012
2:04 pm

Post Season Rotation if we make it:

Save either Sheets, Malholm or Hudson as your wild card play in game, if we survive that:

Malholm
Sheets
Hudson
Minor
Medlen

Tommy has been inconsistent and is blasted by quality teams, and gets by on sub par teams like the Marlins and Mets. If he starts a postseason game the way he is pitching now, he’s going to be rocked. And I can’t believe he’s cursing Fredi and Rodger. He hasn’t pitched in a few weeks, and his stamina is down. This will only help him.

If Hanson can get his form back, I guess you can sub Hanson for Minor or Medlen, but Hudson, Sheets and Malholm are clearly the best three starters we have right now. And right now, I feel good about any our starters going out. Don’t get that feeling with Tommy. Medlen could be in that convo too, but he just needs to get a bit more stamina under him. He’s going deeper in games and pitching well. And he takes care of business unlike Tommy. He was starting to get hit harder in the fifth and sixth innings. Just needs to keep getting his stamina up and he’ll be fine. We win when he starts, too, another reason he should be in the rotation.

If Tommy can regain his form and take care of business against bad teams, and fight and bare down against quality teams, then sure he can have his spot back. But I can tell you one thing right now, I’d take any of our five starters over him at this moment. He just isn’t up to the task. He has sick stuff, but is far too inconsistent to be on this starting rotation.

Especially these last weeks in August. This is when we’ll find out what the Braves are made of. I think we have a very good team. We’re taking care of business against inferior opponents, our rotation is putting together quality starts, our bullpen has been unstoppable and our offense is very dangerous.

But with these series coming up against the Dodgers, Nats and Giants back to back to back, we must show that we can beat these teams, because if we make it to October, we’ll be facing at least one of them more than likely.

Fastball

August 12th, 2012
2:41 pm

Carl Farvman and BraveNew World…Thank you for the comments. Two out of three ain’t bad.

Larry

August 12th, 2012
3:00 pm

“No disrespect to the Braves. They’ve got a very, very good club. But when they hit it, they hit it where nobody was standing. He didn’t have a ball hit at anybody.”

Duh! Isn’t this how all hits occur…not hitting the ball at someone?

Collins is starting to sound like Gonzalez!

moman

August 12th, 2012
3:11 pm

Huddy is struggling physically witwith bone chips in ankle and sore shoulder. He just been toughing it out. Think when Hanson is ready to go they put Huddy on 15 day DL so he can be strong down the stretch.

Nite Owl

August 12th, 2012
4:46 pm

@DawgNole:

I know better now than to go toe-to-toe with you on your “championship or bust” philosophy, but you can’t just fire/dump everyone who doesn’t finish first every year.

Even in Glengarry Glen Ross second prize got you a set of steak knives. It was third place that got you fired.

DawgNole

August 12th, 2012
8:54 pm

Nite Owl
August 12th, 2012
4:46 pm

@DawgNole:

I know better now than to go toe-to-toe with you on your “championship or bust” philosophy, but you can’t just fire/dump everyone who doesn’t finish first every year.

Even in Glengarry Glen Ross second prize got you a set of steak knives. It was third place that got you fired.
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Well, if steak knives is all we want, maybe third places ain’t so bad.

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